2020-10-18

Lex iniusta non est lex

And, since nulla poena sine lege, f*** them.

Does either maxim apply in Fascist Britain?

Primus inter pares

It pays to be an insomniac.

This is how I imagine Tiger Woods felt with 11 yrs between Majors. Exactly the same.

Alarming Video: A reader sent this video, which he obtained form a source in the Irish police. It purports to show a group of Romanian riot police dragging passengers not wearing masks from an underground train and brutally assaulting them on the platform. Frightening stuff.

I can confirm that it is indeed Romania, in Bucharest. I don’t know the date of the video, though.

‘Obtained from a source in the Irish police’ along with a note
“right lads this is the way that they want us to do it”.

Having visited Romania when it was still Communist I always like to talk to Romanians here. Several have confirmed that while nominally a democracy it remains essentially a police state run by gangster criminals instead of gangsters pretending to be Communists.

I asked one trainee Romanian Doctor why he was not training in Bucharest
“I don’t want to work in a place where patients expect me to need bribing just to give a correct diagnosis”.

Rumania had a brutal dictator called Ceausescu.
They shot him.

Eventually…after the USSR collapsed, which took decades and decades to happen.

No, it was nearly two years before the Soviet Union collapsed. Also, the Soviets and him were none to fond of each other. That’s why we buttered him up with the Queen giving him an honourary knighthood.

The same story repeats itself. You can see it with Brexit too. The dormant anger of the people is stoked up by some “well intentioned” individuals, selling them hope. And when the people rise, and make the change, it turns out that the change they made is not quite the change they were promised.
I was 1 year old when the Revolution happened, so i can’t claim i know anything about it as an eye witness. But i do know that the people were promised freedom, and they were cheated. Change did come, and it was for the better, i will not deny that. But we merely exchanged one yoke for another.
Well, at least it seems that way to me.

One of my Scottish cousins lives in Romania and is married to a Romanian woman.

While I have no reason to doubt that the story of people being brutalised by riot police is true, I have not heard anything else bad about the country.

I’m sure my cousin wouldn’t live there if it was a terrible place to live.

Living in a corrupt authoritarian state is not necessarily terrible unless you cross the authorities or some petty authority figure, or the economy collapses. Of course, some people find themselves in that position through no fault of their own, but most people can find ways to live fine, most of the time. Keep your head down, conform, and do what you need to, to get by. Not unlike mask wearers here.

Can confirm lived in China for 6 months without any bother whatsoever. Was well warned though not to discuss the regime in any environment.

If you have to watch your back every second and beware of miscontrued words, it’s not really any kind of world I want to live in.

So….. how do you explain why you live in a country that beats peaceful protestors with truncheons and punches peacfully protesting women in the stomach? I mean…. I’m sure YOU wouldn’t live in a terrible place like that??

Assuming you’re UK-based….. you do. This is happening in London.

One bad story does not tarnish an entire country, nor does the virtue of one inhabitant absolve a country, nor does the past inform the present situation.

Which is, incidentally, Global Tyranny, because we’re all going to be slaves in the Great Reset if the masses don’t pull their fingers out of their assholes and point them at these psychopathic cunts.

Happened in Germany at the 29th August demo as well.

Thanks TyLean, that about nails it.

Romania wasn’t that bad, at least from an authoritarian point of view. There was and still is a lot of corruption, that’s true. But if you were just an average Joe, going about your day, you won’t have any trouble. The police does commit abuses, but rarely violent ones. Mostly they’re looking for a little bribe here and there. It was the social life that has always been bad, with pickpockets and homeless people everywhere.
And i know a lot of you might gasp at me pointing a finger at homeless people, but you don’t know the homeless of Romania. Whilst there are indeed a lot of unfortunate people that found themselves on the street, there are those that make a career of it. People running begging gangs of children. Washing windshields at traffic stops. I have heard of numerous cases of children being taken from the street, after living in sewers, being brought into children’s homes, given a bed, clothes, food, but still chose to run away and live on the street.
But it’s been getting a lot better. 10 years ago it was almost impossible to get on public transport without seeing a fake blind or crippled person asking for money. Can’t even tell you how many times i’ve seen one of these people crawl through the 20 or so meters of a tram, only to get up on their feet at the end and alight. All the traffic lights in the city center had armies of windshield cleaners. Lately it’s been quieter. Maybe they found some other business.

Unfortunately, that is the case. Nothing gets done in Romania without bribes. And as with other parts of Europe (especially the European Union itself), whilst the political class pretended to have rebuked and destroyed communism, they still very much practice it to this day. Everyone in power has a long list of crimes behind them which is used as a leash to hold them in check. And when a new election comes along, the new party promises to bring the old party to justice for their crimes, but all they do is give them a slap on the writ and fall into the same practices. Until the next election comes along, and now they’re the ones being brought to justice. They’re all taking turns in sucking the country dry.

The bizarre thing is that the whole action is for “the benefit of their survival”. These maskless individuals obviously did not think it was such a terrible threat. This is in essence the absurdity of the whole situation. “The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.” —Albert Camus

Purports being the get out clause. May be going blind but at least two of those thrown to the ground seemed to be wearing masks. Surely LS can do better than this?

…. at least two of those thrown to the ground seemed to be wearing masks
Indeed, but so what ffs?

Erm.. perhaps the police were throwing people from the train for reasons other than their victims not wearing masks?

We know enough about over reaction by UK authorities to non compliant citizens without looking at dodgy footage from Romania….

I don’t know why those policemen were doing what they were doing. I only confirmed that it is Romania. It could be over masks, or maybe they were after something else. But if it was masks… let’s say you have your mask in your pocket, being defiant. And then you see police in riot gear storming the train. Will you not put it on and hope you weren’t seen? Not saying this is the case, but it is within the realm of possibility.

The video in Romania was not related to mask wearing. These were rival football supporters arrested following reports that they were carrying weapons.

As Ireland doesn’t have an underground, I’m not sure what the “Irish police” could learn from such a video. Having said that, having been through the sham police complaints process in Ireland, I’m not sure that the Irish police are capable of learning.

But Ireland does have a public transport network, does it not?

meanwhile why no coverage of the weekly demos against the lockdown?
https://www.ruptly.tv/en/videos/20201017-026-UK–Tensions-high-as-police-arrest-protester-at-coronavirus-skeptics-rally-in-London

Sunday Times headline 18th Oct.

“If it’s a tireless Wally you want, Matt Hancock is the man”.

I thought it was just us who like gratuitously insulting door matt (h/t The Guardian )

Gratuitously?

In the sense of “free of charge”, perhaps.

Re Toby’s piece on Karol Sikora warning the government about lack of cancer care as early as April.
Without knowing any numbers it occured to me at the end of March that this would be the case when I heard that they had closed our major Oncology unit despite neither its staff or wards being given over to ICU.
As to his advice that the government should use the private sector they did commandeer the local Nuffield but didn’t use it.
Towards the end of lockdown they said they would use the Nightingale to deal with the cancer diagnosis and treatment backlog but have only done so in tiny numbers.

Nightingales are for Covid -19 propaganda purposes only and cannot deal with cancer diagnosis and treatment. The suggestion that they could is simply more outlandish propaganda.

As far as I know, the NHS never managed to get the necessary staff to agree to man the Nightingales. I know the father of a nurse who was asked to work at the Nightingale in Harrogate at the height of the original lockdown. She would have been expected to live in an unserviced hotel room, away from her family, and the only financial compensation would have been her travel expenses (from Wakefield) and food from the hospital canteen. Not surprisingly, she didn’t find the offer attractive.

Blimey, I’m 4th! Morning everyone. Feeling kind of upbeat today despite earlier disagreeing (again!) with my neighbour who wants another total 6 week lockdown! Jeez, he wants me to agree with him and refuses to listen to any alternative opinion or research I’ve done. I didn’t even start the bloody argument! In fact I avoid talking about it with those who love lockdown – there’s no point, they know it all! However I did manage to get out some very choice facts backed with evidence that stalled them for a minute, and I felt I won a tiny part of the battle, not the whole battle, and certainly not the war but it’s a start. Have a good Sunday, everyone.

Good morning Helena,
try referring your neighbour to the Mail online comments, specifically ‘worst voted’ on Covid articles. They are laughable in their Lockdown mania but always hugely down voted.

Morning and well done!!! As they say “every little helps”

Anyone who supports anymore illegal lockdowns are utter morons

“When the official inquiry begins into the unending series of cock-ups by the Government and the Civil Service, this document will be a smoking gun”

While I love what Toby is doing with Lockdown Sceptics and have utmost respect for him, I don’t agree at all that this is just a series of “cock-ups”. The Government aren’t just a bunch of incompetents, they know exactly what they are doing. It’s not some sort of benign neglect but something much more sinister than that. There will be no official inquiry – that’s just fanciful wishful thinking. This is intentional repression of the population and there will be no accountability unless people wake up and start demanding it. The “incompetence” narrative really bothers me.

There will be some sort of enquiry but held by a tame judge following endless months bickering about terms of reference and taking about 15 years before giving outline conclusions.

The Covid might have been natural, accidental or deliberate but various interests have used it to further their agenda.
1. UK Nats. Deliberately adopting different lockdown measures just to be different.
2. The greens, delighted that the governments ludicrous quarantine measures for those returning from abroad means that most of us would not consider flying for the foreseeable future.
3. The New World Order crowd rebranding (h/t Basics) their facist fantasy as the Great Reset.
4. Big Business in all areas benefitting from the demise of their smaller rivals and challengers as a direct result of johnson’s diktats.
5. Lazy idle people who have found that working from home is just fine.

None of these groups want the Covid to end any time soon and neither do self important government advisers, medics or the press.

Feel free to add those I have forgotten.

6. The anti-Alcohol crowd determined to wreck the licenced trade using lockdown to do it.
They will be after the home drinkers next.

Interesting that when a Labour MP posted a photo of crowds waiting to get into Tesco for booze at 10pm, the replies all said Ban booze sales. One holier than though post suggested banning alcohol altogether. Prohibition here we come.

It’s already happened in South Africa and elsewhere.

6 = 1, as the Scottish response has reportedly been driven by ant-alcohol campaigners within the SNP, including an Indian lady who graces this very page quite a lot.

Pharmaceuticals with their shareholders in Sage, Government, Political parties. All invested in vaccines, face masks and other medical products.

The pharmaceutical industry is the perfect replacement for military-industrial complex. Force feeding vaccines and drugs is much cleaner than starting wars.

And vaccines will be much more deadly. This is the depopulationists big moment and they’ve been working towards it for the past 100 years. They are not going to let this hard-won opportunity pass them by.

Bill Gates, Rockerfella, Rothschild, &Co, plus all those with vested interests in forcing some unnecessary, probably dangerous vaccines on us all.

There are many others as well and we mustn’t leave out Boris Johnson.

I agree with everything you have said…. Johnson has walked into a trap he cannot get out of — The opposition must be laughing their heads off..
I will never again vote for the conservatives.. Johnson not up to the job of leading, The health secretary Matt Hancock is an embarrassment by any standards, anywhere…I might as well have a stick of Brighton Rock instead of my local MP —

Doesn’t it say something about the opposition who is playing politics and seeming to not help the country get out of this?

Starmer is simply part of the plot.

Don’t expect in guiding malignant plan with George Soros or Bill Gates attempting to take over the world. That is for those who really have lost touch with reality.

But it is not incompetence as such either. Rather, that there is a certain naivety that various groups and bodies should behave and think as we expect they should. Take teachers for example. If you were a teacher and the Government is paying you to sit at home doing nothing, why would you expose yourself to even the smallest risk by going back to work? Ditto the other 400,000 or so civil servants in this country. Why should they incur even the smallest risk when they are being paid to stay at home? It makes no sense for them to be anything other than an enthusiastic lockdowner.

Take the SAGE committee for example. They are people who make a hansom living sitting on important committees, and the most important thing for people like these is their reputation, not the work they do on any particular committee. Their reputation would be shattered beyond repair if they under-played the risk and it was perceived that people died because the measures they recommended were not strict enough. So, they over-play the risk and recommend the toughest restrictions they can without looking stupid, in the sure and certain knowledge that their reputation will survive if they turn out to be wrong. Look at Neil Ferguson, he is obviously a past master at this and still, there he is, advising the Government.

Rather, that there is a certain naivety that various groups and bodies should behave and think as we expect they should. Take teachers for example. If you were a teacher and the Government is paying you to sit at home doing nothing, why would you expose yourself to even the smallest risk by going back to work? Ditto the other 400,000 or so civil servants in this country. Why should they incur even the smallest risk when they are being paid to stay at home? It makes no sense for them to be anything other than an enthusiastic lockdowner.

Don’t forget as well that their pay won’t be frozen or cut unlike their hapless counterparts in the private sector. Not to mention that many of them will retire with good pension schemes. Given that they’ve been living the life of Riley especially during the last few months, why indeed would they be against lockdown?

If one was a teacher in a ‘bog-standard comprehensive’ it would not be the health risk that would make one an enthusiastic lockdowner; it would be sheer gratitude that one did not have to go in and attempt to teach the sort of pupils that make life hell!

In time they may see the glaring error of their ways, but probably much too late to do anything about it.

It’s not even up for debate that Bill Gates is heavily involved in all this.
5 minutes on the internet and you can establish a monetary connection with most of the main players involved in this.As for Soros a little more digging and you will find his name in a lot of the destabilising elements that have afflicted us in the last few years.
That being said I agree with your point on the teachers.Most are lazy and have loved the lockdown.I disagree on Sage.Before lockdown they were quite sensible and reasoned.Now they are the biggest lockdown fanatics.WHY?

You think the government needs his money?

Posted last night:

I am beginning to form the opinion that if and when this horror show is all over, the UK (state) security services’ (77th Brigade) greatest achievement will have been in convincing a large number of sceptics that the lockdowns were nothing to do with the British government.

That Boris Johnson was not the country’s main protagonist and architect of Britain’s catastrophic lockdowns, but instead that he was simply an innocent victim of unseen and unknown dark forces abroad. And Bill Gates.

They must be finding all of this very amusing.

You keep pushing this nonsense.I say it again for you.Johnson is guilty.Hancock is guilty.Cummins is guilty.I would like to see them all hung by the neck until dead.Is that clear enough for you.
Gates is involved in this in a big way.Ferguson,Fachi.Whitty WHO Gavvi are all connected to him.

It is you who are pushing the nonsense!

Gates is not the person making the decisions.

I do not like Gates.

But he does not run the world. Governments are in charge. Not him.

I’ve seen a photo about of Gates with Hancock. That doesn’t prove anything other than that they met.

If you have actual evidence , for example paperwork – minutes of meetings where Gates is seen to be giving orders and government ministers are seen to be taking them, then – and only then – will I consider believing this.

Bill Gates has “invested” in the media.

Including the vaccine loving BBC and Guardian.

Some of Mr Gates’ influence.

I never said Bill Gates runs the world but you have to agree that on the balance of probabilities he is involved and you have set an impossible bar of evidence.i wasn’t present at these meetings and I doubt there were any minutes.
Look at the evidence.He is connected to all the main players.He run event 201 a pandemic modelling exercise in Oct 2019.All the responses fits his favourite hobby horses vaccine and digital identity.He is also treated as a expert on many MSM shows despite having no medical training.
I doubt we will ever have proof but in a police enquiry he would be described as a person of interest.
And I say it again this in no way takes any blame away from Johnson and his junta.

You have been rather harshly marked down and likely by 77th brigade, which stalks these pages. The buck stops with Johnson though and this almighty mess is his and he should pay the highest price. Personally I have little doubt that Johnson is working to an external agenda, but that doesn’t really matter, as the UK buck stops with him and he must be brought to account for the massive and possibly irreversible damage he has needlessly inflicted upon this country. The punishments for Johnson and his cronies need to be be very severe, as this must never be allowed to happen again.

I believe I read on this site that 32 of 34 Sage members were in some way in debt to Gill Gates.

it’s a leap of faith to believe that one of the most ruthless business men in the world suddenly wants to use that wealth for the good of humanity.
This has never felt right from the start.

Well yes, but somehow the masses just can’t see it.

G’By their friends shall he know them’
Minister for Digital, Matt Hancock addresses the all Party Parliamentary Group on the 4th Industrial Revolution alongside Professor Klaus Schwarb of the World Economic Forum, upon whom he heaps fulsome praise. 16th October, 2017. A read of the speech can be found on the Government website. And is illuminating.

‘The Government aren’t just a bunch of incompetents, they know exactly what they are doing.’ I might take some persuading on that one. The frightening thing is that someone knows what they are doing but I am rather of the view that our Government itself does not have a clue. I am not sure it is one disturbing group, I have worries about China’s role in all this hoo-haa.

Chinas role in all this hoo-haa has been there for decades. Using their pliant population as lab rats for developing the Social Credit model which is now ready to be rolled out upon the West.

China is a player, but it is Bill Gates who heads up the globalist depopulation agenda. That’s a fact, whether or not you are persuaded of it.

Incompetence as such has never been an adequate explanation. I think the most parsimonious (least conspiracy theorist) view would be that the decision to lock down was ruthless tactical politics, with no credible regard for costs and benefits to the country. Thereafter this has been back-covering, not just for the Johnson regime but for much of the state as a whole, given the depth and breadth of complicity.

Incompetence won’t work as an explanation.

However, I think there is an argument to be made that the modern British state does have a serious structural problem, which has been revealed by Covid, and which the state as a whole does not want to address. The problem is that British institutions now work on a control and compliance model. Even where checks and balances formally exist, in practice they have been tamed. Actual decision making takes place among a tiny number of people, with opaque processes and no statement of criteria or priorities. In any but the most normal circumstances, decisions are going to be crap, and then complied with throughout the system.

UK Column decronstructs this forensically every week.

Common purpose

And very well at that.

“Governments do not govern,
but merely control the machinery of government,
being themselves controlled by the hidden hand.”

Benjamin Disraeli

The thing here is not whether independent autonomy actually exists – because despite the pathogen theory, terrain is the determiner of the organism and no cell is an island – but whether the hidden hand is that of masked malice set over deeper masking of self-lack set in shame, envy and drive to GET for such self, or whether a symbiotic alignment of self-interest serves both self and whole at the same time – or as synchronous.

The reaction to a malicious despot is likely to be made in its image – but masking in righteousness claimed from grievance. The abused, take on the modelling or demonstration of their abusers, not least under a blind emotion reaction to the opposite polarity, or to effect every kind of righteous or virtuous rule such that ‘it never happens again’ where the very structures carry blindly the psychic-emotional conflict they were supposed to eradicate.

Masking can be an armoured lid that sets a no-go area that is no less active for being hidden from a surface set in wish to escape the hate and hurt.

Can I humbly suggest that you post this again as a stand-alone comment as that would ensure a wider audience.

I agree with David – post this again as a stand-alone comment. It’s very thoughtful and interesting. It offers ways of beginning to think more effectively about why mask-wearers are so attached to their masks and so impervious both to reason and to manifestations of non-maskers’ horror and distress.

Those who believe there is malicious intent at play with all this crisis are overlooking an important point.

There are many, many people who think more government control is a good thing. Far from seeing it as a threat they view measures, track and trace, rules, surveillance as things that will keep them safe. They equate these things with a more civilised society because it requires individuals chipping in for the common good.

In short, people want to be “repressed” especially when they consider themselves to be under threat.

In my view governments are pretty much doing what the people want from them.

We think most people are like those of us on here and care profoundly about civil liberties and freedom of speech. They don’t. Most people care about being safe and comfortable way above anything else.

That’s why this madness will only end if there is a proper economic collapse and enough people’s safety and comfort is compromised.

I hate “safe”. Every time I hear that word I want to punch the person uttering that pathetic trope.

Yes but that would not be safe for them or for you.

The revulsion is to the lie.
There is something true in the movement to help, serve or protect life, and the deceit of pretending to a ‘paramount concern for safety’ is an outright lie.

However, those who hide behind it are hijacked by fear of threat or pain of loss to themselves and replicate the threat set in deceit as their personal safety, rather than not comply and be marked out and cancelled.

However, when PPP.gov.uk say they are going to make us safe, this has an element of truth revealed, for while we have consciousness and choice, we are risks of infection to the captive revenue stream of a branded and managed mindshare.

There are many, many people who think that what operates their mind is thinking…. Freedom from thinking is a masking persona or identity bubble.
So yes but the underlying pattern of this substitution for thinking is fear of exposure to self-lack and inadequacy – aligned with the masking narrative that seems to have more power to hide in.

underlying pattern of this substitution for thinking is fear of exposure to self-lack and inadequacy – aligned with the masking narrative that seems to have more power to hide in.
Thanks – very perceptive Binra

Well put. I had not considered that insight. Perhaps none of us truly wants freedom: we are like the long-term convict being released from prison who fears freedom because they”ll have to start to think for themselves.

Loving Big brother is a popular option at the moment

Lovely lucid thinking, Binra. Super helpful. Like a cool hand on a hot forehead.

You have to bear in mind that this broad support is largely driven by fear propaganda from the MSM. I have been much saddened to see how effective it has been on friends who previously seemed quite sensible and independent-minded.

And when people are afraid, they cannot think logically any more. They certainly cannot make a realistic assessment of risks.

But you are right about the economy. The “fourth industrial revolution” will bring about economic misery and it is most likely this that will collapse the incipient New Order as discontent mounts.

It is important to remember that economic problems, rather than lack of freedom, were what finally did for the old USSR.

And Matt Hancock is a great fan of the architect thereof.

They have a cunning plan!

There’ll be no inquiry. This has all been pre-planned and everything predicted.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/10/dangerous-elites-planning-the-great-reset/
Spectator Australia magazine: “Dangerous elites planning ‘the Great Reset’
Davos 2021 will launch its own Green New Deal. Be afraid.

A lasting side-effect of Covid-19 is the universal growth of state power. Despite global death rates peaking last April and immunity building even without a vaccine, authoritarian leaders are clinging to their recently acquired powers. No doubt they view individual freedom as an optional extra not an inalienable right and want their new powers to become a normal part of governing. The Victorian government is legislating to that effect.

The response to Covid follows closely the approach taken by global warming activists. But as Prince Charles puts it, ‘The threat of climate-change has been more gradual (than the pandemic) — but its devastating reality for many people and their livelihoods around the world, and its ever greater potential to disrupt, surpasses even that of Covid-19’. He argues we have ‘a golden opportunity to seize something good from the crisis’.

The World Economic Forum, a Geneva-based non-profit foundation whose ranks include Prince Charles and other climate change crusaders like Al Gore and Greta Thunberg, together with the secretary general of the United Nations, the president of the European Central Bank, the secretary-general of the OECD, the managing director of the IMF, George Soros, world trade union leaders, chief executives of Big Tech and representatives of NGOs like Greenpeace and WWF, believes climate action must be top of the global agenda as we emerge from Covid-19.

The Forum’s founder and executive chair, Klaus Schwab, also believes ‘The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world’. ‘All aspects of our societies and economies must be revamped, from education, to social contracts and working conditions.’ He labels this the ‘Great Reset’.

Much of the WEF’s agenda can be found in America’s radical Left’s Green New Deal, which addresses climate change and economic inequality. It embraces the spirit of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal and the social and economic reforms which he introduced to lift the US out of the Great Depression. However, unlike the New Deal, the Great Reset and the Green New Deal share a belief that the world is being governed by fundamentally wrong assumptions and that ‘dramatic transformation is possible with a change of mindset’.

Those who scoffed at claims that climate change was a stalking horse for a new world order, should think again. That reality is now in full view

Come January 2021, Professor Schwab’s Great Reset campaign will begin in earnest. Should his ideological opponent, US President Donald Trump, not be re-elected, a major obstacle to achieving his societal and economic revamp will be gone. Schwab is determined that a return to a post-Covid business-as-usual world ‘will not happen’.

Intense pressure will be applied to parliaments everywhere to pass enabling laws and to abdicate more responsibilities to unelected bureaucrats in global institutions. Crony capitalism is anathema to genuine market economies and, giving more leverage to those who encourage it is simply fascistic. No surprise that some of the organisations behind the ‘stakeholder capitalism’ push are accused of corruption, sexual harassment, cover ups and a general abuse of power. Still, the WEF’s oligarchy derives much of its extraordinary influence and wealth from these same institutions and no one should doubt their Big Brother intentions.

Stripped of the propaganda, the Great Reset is not new. It’s another fascist experiment being pushed by controlling elitists. Economic growth and social mobility must be subordinate to the collective. Connections will be institutionalised and privilege perpetuated. History demonstrates the children of the elites will receive preferential access to higher education and elite positions. ‘Inclusion’ and ‘fairness’? Forget it. Think inequality, serfdom and misery.”

I’ve removed a couple of paragraphs because it would be too long to post. Read the original article via the link.

MPs are like the proverbial turkeys who keep voting for an early Christmas.

Think of these “cock-ups” as a scatter of points on a graph.

On their own they might seem random and chaotic, but taken together they show a very distinct trend that points in one direction only.

And that direction is towards a sinister globalist New Order, with a shrunken “green” economy and medical martial law. Another commentator has called it “biofascism” and he is probably not far off the mark.

I’m afraid the idea that this will all be duly cleared up at a public inquiry, just like the end of a “Scooby doo” episode, is just wishful thinking. Unless people say no and mean it, this country is heading for a very dark place.

Think of these “cock-ups” as a scatter of points on a graph.
On their own they might seem random and chaotic, but taken together they show a very distinct trend that points in one direction only.
Thanks – well explained.

“ And that direction is towards a sinister globalist New Order, with a shrunken “green” economy and medical martial law. “

This looks like mostly fantasy, or at the least gross overstatement.

Clearly there is general elite support for green nonsense, which will necessarily shrink economies as it imposes extra costs, and for internationalism, which will continue the technology-driven trend towards global government. But this is not the kind of organised scheme your words imply.

Excellent summary, The cock up theory was dead by early April and it’s hard to believe that there are still those who cling to this nonsense.

“ The Government aren’t just a bunch of incompetents, they know exactly what they are doing .”

This seems to contradict everything we should have learned about big government over centuries – it is exactly that: incompetence.

It’s not that these are necessarily stupid people, as individuals or as narrowly political animals. They can be quite clever indvidually in many situations. But they are not necessarily sensible or strong, and they are functionally stupid when they get to the senior positions they are in, overwhelmed by the complexities involved, especially when their reason is overwhelmed by fear, either of the disease or of getting the blame for its consequences.

Human beings are not competent to run huge nations, and when they try to do so they become functionally incompetent. Success is generally a matter of relative success against other similar human organisations that are even worse run, throwing massive resources at problems to achieve results, with huge waste and collateral damage..

“ It’s not some sort of benign neglect but something much more sinister than that. There will be no official inquiry – that’s just fanciful wishful thinking .”

Of course there will be official enquiries, probably several. Just as with the Iraq War, these will be carefully set up to try to do the minimum of damage to the guilty parties (apart from any so damaged they are better used as scapegoats for the rest), with “convictions” for all kinds of lower level offences that allow the Guilty Men to evade the full responsibility for the overall catastrophe

This is not a matter of some kind of organised overarching conspiracy, though. It’s just the way people in power work to protect each other, when (as in this case) all sides of the establishment have been complicit.

Every time a Government minister appears on television I’m more convinced of their incompetence.

Incompetence is a cop out. And was it just coincidence that the incompetence was repeated across virtually the whole world in lockstep. Incompetence seems to be a lot more infectious than Covid-19.

That swings it for me.If it was just our government then I would agree.Government incompetence has a long history but nearly every western government using exactly the same policies to counter an almost unimportant threat and to continue in those policies when the threat has diminished.To ignore the massive economic damage while continuing to exaggerate the threat.
If they are incompetent why are they installing a police state on the back of this at a enormous cost.
Also the shadow powers are confident enough now to show us their hand,they are not hiding it anymore.

Yes, yessssss !! (Fast and enthusiastic clapping)

A common argument against a herd immunity approach is that it would lead to too many deaths. Such arguments are usually accompanied with rudimentary calculations based on a simple 60% of people infected multiplied by the IFR to give some large unacceptable number.

The counter argument to an immunity approach is to wait for a vaccine.

As luck would have it we have real world data from which we can see just what a vaccine strategy would look like and that is of course for the flu vaccine.

A cursory search suggests a flu vaccine has been around since at least the 1950s, it’s not important to be overly precise on the exact details here, and an estimated 500k deaths a year worldwide from flu (give or take).

So equally rudimentary calculations for 70 years of 500k deaths gives me 35M deaths since the advent of a flu vaccine. This is what a vaccine strategy looks like and there’s not even an attempt to eradicate the flu.

I forgot to mention that none of the calculations for herd immunity take into account any existing immunity that would build up anyway regardless of strategy.

Good points.

One of the things that really anooys me about the likes of Hancock and his ilk is that none of them want to admit/mention that the doctors have learned a lot about this virus and how to treat it (much fewer deaths now).

They also don’t want to admit that the public know what would be expected of them, and I think would respect distancing for the elderly and vulnerable for those who chose to “self shield™”

much fewer deaths now

Sadly not as big an effect as you might think. ICNARC have published data now showing that 28-day critical care hospital survival has improved from 61% to 73%, most likely due to the use of dexamethasone and less aggressive ventilation practices.

Incremental improvements over a long period would be the norm with treatments wouldn’t it? With perhaps some leaps forward from time to time. It would be lovely to cure all disease and abolish death, but it’s not realistic – time for the public mindset to get used to COVID being around and part of the mix.

That doesn’t seem like a bad improvement in such a short space of time.

20% for those who were critically ill already on admission.

Yes. Not flu death stats are also NOT autopsied/postmortem science but a very loose and subjective designation for end of life complications that are commonly associated with another infection – including respiratory disease. Stats are thus subject to being doctored or massaged so as to manage perceptions – and that is the phrase in all of this mind-control or ‘post truth’ politic set in the Big Lie.

Invested identity in trusted science, becomes a captured revenue stream or in covid’s terms, proxy community support for state terrorism.

The billions already spent on ‘vaccines’ are taxpayer debt to be leveraged on the living, but the billions being made in ‘market trading’ are not my sphere of knowledge excepting to know that the ability to run a scam on false premises that never were going to come to fruit is a known history within any ‘gold rush’ hysteria.

As for the Gated umbrella of R&D, we already have a political control operating in lockstep with a vast disparity of wealth and its leverage as indebted governments, corporations institutions and people.
Under rigged systemic controls of expansion and choking of funds, energy, regulatory protections or denials, the operation of individual self-interest can be ‘incentivised’ to operate ‘freedom’ as instructed, nudged or mandated.

The systemic and pervasive nature of the deceit is such that our first responsibility is to our own heart and mind in re-establishing a basis from which to communicate – rather than persist in the weaponisation of the form of communication, masking as virtue.

I think the virus has already “let rip”. Suppression measures only delay it. It will run its course whatever is done so why do they take our happiness and freedom for nothing?

Hey Toby,

Any chance you could persuade Carl Heneghan to look at London, like he did Manchester.

London’s figures are even lower than Manchester’s (7-day Deaths (by death date) average is only 4, in a population of 9.3 million), yet our glorious mayor is still murmuring about Tier 3 and circuit breakers.

Good idea. The funny thing about Khan is he agitates for more restrictions then later turns around and wails that they’re going to hurt hospitality. So he demands for more money.

He has been useless throughout and should resign.

Cancer tumours grow new blood supply networks to divert from those serving the body as a whole. ‘Useless’ is relative to whether you are invested in the tumour of conflict-driven control, or aligned in the whole as the good of all.

Burnham is playing the same role. ‘Strong cities’ or whatever fronting organisations are funded, recruited and set into operation as the result of the paranoia of predictive programming. Transfer of life support from the whole to the essential services, as if a fight-flight mentality is capable of wise or just governance, even through A.I algorithms of a realtime 5g track and trace everything surveillance and enforcement system.

Opinions as to what Khan or any other controlled asset should do are our own private entertainment or diversion. I am not defending the muppets!

I noticed on the Biased Broadcasting Corporation today that the deaths for yesterday stood at 150. I could not understand why there has been such an increase. Then I read further – that anyone who had tested positive for Covid 19 in the previous 28 days before death was included in the death toll.

I wonder what the true figure is? More manipulation of data by PHE and our useless government.

Judy, the offical ‘results’ page here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deaths has the description:

Number of deaths of people who had had a positive test result for COVID-19 and died within 28 days of the first positive test. Data from the four nations are not directly comparable as methodologies and
inclusion criteria vary.

It used to look like the image below.

Spot the difference?

They don’t want us to know how people actually died.

Yes, and at least 1 person who died was 99.
Check the official figures.

Judy, has it recently rebranded? I’ve known it as the British Brainwashing Corporation for many years now.

https://twitter.com/MichaelKitson/status/1317576650360578048?s=20

Poor man. I think sadly that he won’t be the last grieving father by the end of this.

Johnson, Hancock et al ; blood on their hands.

It will be required of them, to the last drop.
I suppose they don’t realise how the evidence -solid, detailed, irrefutable -piles up against them, day by day?
No wonder they don’t want this ever to end.
But it will. And we must make absolutely sure that evidence is not destroyed. As Nazi Germany collapsed, the murderers made frantic efforts to destroy the evidence, but there was too much of it. On paper.
I think we should start printing things out.

I have a large archive dating back to March. Not printed: PDF.

Good fir you, hang on to it.
Written evidence nailed even Goering in the end, and he was a slippery fat bastard …
Like … who else?

So have we. Printed. MW

Throughout lockdown Local Live (mirror group news) online have steadily dripped similar stories, sometimes two or three a day
“a man was pronounced dead at X, Police confirm that it is not regarded as suspicious”.
Never are the words Covid or suicide used ( so they won’t appear in Google searches for same) but are curiously often accompanied by ads for the Samaritans.

That’s horrific. The almost casual dismissal of his death with the claim “phew, wasn’t a COVID-19 death. Nothing to see here” is awful.

The tweet he refers to is removed. What was it saying?

Jeez, the virus can spread through eye contact. Let’s all blind ourselves. Oh, wait, most people already did…

LMAO!

Yes, have to stop that handshaking, too.

Here’s an idea…

Excellent. I think we should start a trend. Morituri te salutant.

Hell no, the zombies would take it seriously. Anyway, isn’t the Nazi salute more suitable?

The Nazis copied it from the Italian fascists who had copied it from Ancient Rome.

Incredible isn’t it, shaking hands is now a thing of the past. I was watching the dick head footballers yesterday, hugging and back slapping after sweating over each other and kicking each other up in the air for 90 minutes, forgetting themselves and remembering to do the disgusting fist bump. What utter bullshit.

I watched the rugby Heineken challenge cup final. I pissed myself when a player was subbed and when he returned to the stand he put a face nappy on!

Follow the science folks!

Utter dog dirt ain’t it. ITV racing was ramping up the brainwashing yesterday, the disgusting pundit Matt Chapman was wearing a disgusting union jack gimp mask to interview the winning jockies, amazing to watch as they take their mask down to race and as soon as the camera is on them they are abviously under instruction to pull it up, then spend more time fiddling with it then actually talking.

At one point Chapman was speaking to camera wearing it, I’ve never seen anything so ridiculous in my life.

Aw, come on, sure they’re codding you?

Couldn’t help commenting on the tik toc pic.As a student Nurse back in the 80s in a Hellish asylum I discovered a patient hanging in a toilet.After my shift I got my camcorder out and busted moves whilst clapping .What a Hero I was!
Piss boiling banality.For the record I’m still Nursing and having regular assaults on my oral and nasal cavities against my better judgement so I can provide for my family.

From DM comments on the disgusting GP Zoom story:

“Yep. I’ve known this . Also GPs asking unqualified staff to examine a patient to decide if they are end of life, via Zoom. The public would be shocked by what I have witnessed during Covid. It’s an absolute scandal.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8850733/Coronavirus-UK-Doctors-ask-grieving-families-confirm-relatives-deaths-ZOOM.html#comments

My italics.
Every time you think the coronagoons can sink no lower, they do.

This has been happening throughout. One GP told a community midwife about this, saying if the person with the deceased was able to check for pulse then they would use that to certify death.

Just keep it going until our face saving vaccine is rolled out. And what a bonus for the pharma industry. We now have the latest genetic vaccine biotech finally approved for human use.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/hope-for-covid-vaccine-at-new-year-25b52b86s

some quotes from this article:

The NHS is preparing to introduce a coronavirus vaccine soon after Christmas. Trials have shown it will cut infections and save lives, Jonathan Van-Tam, the deputy chief medical officer, has privately revealed.

The government changed the law this weekend to expand the number of health professionals able to inoculate the public. The regulations will enable pharmacists, dentists, midwives and paramedics to administer jabs.

An MP who attended another briefing with Van-Tam said he was “very bullish about the third stage AstraZeneca results, which he expects between the end of this month and the end of next”. The MP said: “Van-Tam expects it to protect the elderly and vulnerable. He gave us to understand that it stopped the virus ‘shedding’ in the young. He said he would expect vaccination to start in January.”
Boris Johnson warned last week that there might never be a vaccine, but insiders say he did so because the government does not want to “overpromise and underdeliver”.

University students will be herded into the infernal machine for sure.

Stops the virus shedding in the young.

WTF????????

Peter Hitchens wields his cudgel yet again, with an agonising story. One of so many, alas, alas.

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

Ladies and gentlemen, if you will, a slow handclap for the following:

• HMG – for the continued pyschological abuse;
• Essex County Council – “please, HMG, put us into Tier 2 so we can have loads more money to waste and ruin more small businesses”
• Saffron Walden Business ‘Improvement’ District who, in their unending quest for self-publicity, entered into a faustian pact with the media who (hey, who knew) twisted things and made SW out to be plague-central of Uttlesford District.

And, finally, a special mention to the sanctimonious woman who yesterday decided to launch an attack (both verbal and written) on our maskless state. But, what’s this, she decided to stay, eat her food, drink her drink, before she did this. So, exactly, how bloody bothered was she? Or was she, like so many others (and yes, I’m talking about you, the snitch who went to the council to dob us in for “spreading misinformation”) relishing every opportunity to display your revolting misanthropy.

Take a photo of the butch, and of all other snitch bitches. (I presume they take off their gob nappies to eat?) Record their nasty whining voices to ensure they can be recognised.
Keep the evidence until we reclaim our lives.
Then hand them over for head-shaving.

Keep it up, my heroine.You are an inspiration to us all.

And after the head shaving……….

Find out who they are and ban them. You have the right.

New Zealand has recorded their first case in 3 weeks, after their election.

Now they have to beat it for a THIRD time!

Nice of it to wait until after the election.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-new-community-case-ashley-bloomfield/SL54X7ZL4DW2SCU2VKZ7J2DR2I/

After St Jacinda’s astounding victory something to think about. A new community case in NZ.A man who went to work on a ship in a port. He used gloves and masks.NZ now say that he has been taken to isolation camp and the rigorous contact tracing is going ahead. The whole thing shows how effective the system is in NZ. What about stopping all ships entering NZ?

Burnham was of course a candidate for the Labour leadership but lost to Corbyn.

Starmer was side-kick, minion and sycophant to Corbyn for some years. This, together with his membership of the Trilateral Commission, makes him an eager advocate of the Great Reset and the destruction of the economy; and a natural ally of Boris Johnson.

Some gems from NHS ‘COMMUNICATING ABOUT RISKS TO PUBLIC HEALTH: Pointers to Good Practice’

‘……sometimes even the highest pedigree assumptions turn out to be mistaken, and there is often a need to look at non-orthodox views. The argument is not that all views should somehow be accorded equal weight. Despite the attractions of a romantic view of science, most dissident views remain just that. But that should not stop one asking what if the accepted view is mistaken.’

‘While not denying that there can be massive pressure for premature closure of debate, there is some evidence that the public is more tolerant of uncertainty honestly admitted than is often supposed. Indeed, a plethora of supposedly-certain statements may only fuel the cynical belief that anything can be “proven”. The risks of appearing closed-minded can also be great. On balance, acknowledging uncertainty often carries fewer dangers’

https://www.regulation.org.uk/library/dh_risk_comms_advice.pdf&nbsp ;

Also some posted yesterday, this time with link for those interested:

‘It remains unclear to us whether the Code of Practice for Scientific Advisory Committees applies to SAGE and we seek clarification on this issue.’

‘Dame Deirdre Hine noted in the independent review of the UK response to swine flu pandemic that she had:

‘….reflected at length on whether SAGE should contain a broader range of scientific disciplines to help it tackle a future pandemic outbreak. I have concluded that SAGE had a good range of expertise, although the emphasis on modelling […] reduced the opportunity for a full contribution by other disciplines.’

‘While we do not doubt Sir Gordon Duff’s independence from Government in his role as SAGE co-chair, it is still not clear to us how independence of the swine flu SAGE as a whole was maintained, particularly as it included Government officials. It is difficult to evaluate the independence of scientific advice when the operation of SAGE is confidential.’

‘It is important that the existence of SAGE and how it can be accessed is made known during an emergency so that those with alternative, credible scientific views can contribute. Such input would need to be screened and evaluated, but that would be part of SAGE’s challenge function.’

‘We recommend that the GCSA (Government Chief Scientific Adviser) either clarify what guidelines/codes of conduct apply to SAGE or, if no existing ones apply, produce guidelines governing how SAGEs should operate. The guidelines should address independence, transparency, confidentiality and the conduct of members, the Chair and the supporting secretariat. We recommend that the guidelines be published.’

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmselect/cmsctech/498/49809.htm

This ia a bit of a weird ‘News of the World’ type post but then it is Sunday morning; picked up a link on twitter linking Covid 19 and body building;
https://twitter.com/northerness/status/1317596292118437894
Not sure if there is anythjing in this or not, has anyone else heard anything about body builders being susceptible to covid 19?
A few links;

https://see.news/rambo-iraqi-coronavirus-bodybuilder-death-infections/

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/06/arizona-bodybuilder-35-covid-ventilator-weight-loss/5382711002/

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/beloved-chinese-bodybuilder-dies-coronavirus-21471597

Well it is interesting, and I will maintain that a lot of everything is to do with Vitamin D.

Arguably, it started in a lab with experiments being carried out on bats. Bats are pretty much devoid of Vitamin D. Let’s see who is most affected:

Care home residents – never go out, lack of vitamin D
Hospital workers – long hours indoors, lack of vitamin D
Chronically obese people – can’t get out, lack of vitamin D
Black people – scientifically low levels of vitamin D as more difficult to absorb.
Seriously ill people – cant get out, again, so lack of vitamin D.

Now getting on to your point of bodybuilders…..well funnily enough, I know taking steroids leads to a deficiency of Vitamin D.

Coincidence or not?!

Security guards were disproportionately affected by covids apparently, all that night working, or working in security rooms all day would mean very low Vitamin D levels too.

Night club Security were also identified early on, same reason?

They will be ok now because they are all unemployed

The stress of intensive exercise can increase the cortisol level which has been linked to higher risk of Covid.
But the mental stress the government is putting everyone under also does the same which will have a far worse effect.

Just a hunch but I’m thinking it must be the steroids?

Yer steroids. A guy I knew from primary school who was 3 years younger than me, the weediest lillte kid ever, turned into the beefiest 5 foot tall guy I have ever seen and ran a security company (mostly event security and door guarding).

He died about two years ago suddenly.

It was the steroids he used for most of his life that killed him in the end. Very sad. He was a really nice guy.

Hmm, just as Liverpool gym owners are starting to fight back.

Bollocks to keep us scared.

It’s all an illusion one big psy op after another

Good point!

Steroids?

Great update Toby and Sikora should keep hammering about the scandal of cancer patients being thrown under the bus. Every time I mention people with cancer missing treatments and screenings which can lead to complications and deaths, I’m always greeted with silence from lockdownistas or if they say anything, its always along the lines of its not safe with the virus and infections still around.

I can vouch for the increase in drug use especially among the young. Over the last few months, I have seen more drugs paraphernalia littering the alleyway many people use as a shortcut and our sorry excuse for a park. Not to mention teenagers hanging around after school and generally making a nuisance out of themselves. Its really sad to see this and especially as the area I live in isn’t very good and now I don’t see it really improving over the next few years.

So if anyone still says that this is about saving lives and calling for another lockdown, I will remind them that they have blood in their hands.

The collateral damage from this doesn’t appear to be impacting the lockdownistas. Whenever I engage in a discussion about this with someone who is clearly ‘in favour’ you can see them going “la la la la, not listening, not listening”. But one day, it will affect them. One day, they will need treatment for something and not get it; one day, someone they love will need treatment for something and not get it and then, maybe, they will start to listen.

I heard yesterday, from someone who works at Addenbrookes, that there are just seven ICU beds occupied right now (and she also hates the ‘clap for carers’ crap).

Exactly. The odd thing is I know someone who has a recurring heart problem, has been having trouble with getting appointments for check ups and consultations and yet is pro-lockdown, pro-mask and worships the Church of the NHS. Really baffling.

Me thinks that the one thing that will wake him up now is when Sunak announces a tax raid on pensions and savings. Not to mention them losing in value.

Sad though, that the only thing to wake up the slumbering masses is the financial hit that’s coming. Bizarre that they think nothing of their liberty or even their own health.

I was so bloody angry yesterday (the cumulative effects of the snark and people moaning about ridiculous things, while the country has gone to hell in a handcart – “My coffee is going cold while I wait for my sandwich”) that I wanted to storm out of my kitchen and yell “will you people just bloody wake up to what is being done to you and rise up against this …”

Exactly. There’s also the massive sense of entitlement and going “me, me, me!”

I know how you feel as I’ve come across behaviour like that to the point that I had to walk away from their whining because I know that I might do or say something that I will live to regret and be hauled off before HR.

Thursday’s Richie Allen show (available on u tube (for now)) had a lady guest who runs a cafe in Bournemouth, fantastic lady.

Like you has kept her business open with no covid bollocks.

Might be worth you contact her and forge some alliance and tips.

She was good until she started on about ‘satanists’ etc.

She was right though IMO – we are being groomed

Not sure about the satanic stuff although there is a lot of symbolism in the covid bollocks – wear a mask, sanitise, stand 6 foot away, groups of 6, roll your trouser leg up, funny handshakes……

If the image and form of life, is taken to mask in, make fantasy of and give priority and power to so as to impose upon the living – or sacrifice the living to private gratifications of a driven lust or compulsive addiction – what would you call it?

I admit the term ‘Satanic’ can mean all kinds of things to all kinds of people, but I gave a sketch of what I mean and I see it working the media in particular and the minds of people in general.
However my focus is in the spark of life and love that may be covered over and denied or mocked by fake parody of life, but remains who we truly are – even if insanity blocks the capacity to believe it.

Oh,khl, I once had a customer complain on a busy saturday that they had eaten their cake before the coffee arrived.
I just held back from replying: Well, it was YOUR decision to start eating and not wait!

I think you are right. It seems that the argument that health is being hugely damaged by restrictive measures just washes over those who want more even if they have health problems themselves. The brainwashing has been too deep and all sense have reality has been lost. So when it hurts the pocket more, will it change the mindset?

A lot of the lockdownistas I know are retired and sitting on top of huge savings and pensions or if young have parents who can bail them out.

I’ve long believed that they will change their tune once they’re hit in the pocket or if mum & dad can’t bail them out. I will laugh if they’ll claim that they were against lockdown from day 1 and scramble to delete their posts and masked selfies.

Do you think that will happen though (raid on pensions etc)? Or will the government just keep borrowing and adding to the great big credit card in the sky?

Sunak has never ruled them out and I remember him advocating the abolition of the triple lock, Theresa May was forced to back out of that but the days of the triple lock are numbered.

Sure, I can see that happening. I’m not so sure about tax increases, though. I definitely would like to see the lockdown zealots have reason to rue their stance, though.

There are other ways by which lockdownista will have reasons to rue their stance – their kids being unable to get jobs for a start.

There is no way the government can pay this back.In the short term they will just print more but long term I can only see the collapse of the £

Covid is the controlled demolition of the economy as was.
Insider knowledge to the fact is the ability to maximise redistribution of wealth (theft) and leverage via every and any shenanigan.

That’s the plan!

Does that mean seven Covvies?

BTW, from our family’s experiences of Addenbrookes, they could cut down their death and infection rate quite a bit by mopping the floors and cleaning the toilets.

Not sure, probably. But when you think of the area that Addenbrookes covers, that’s pretty miniscule.

Your experience sounds grim. Broomfields is the same – hideous place. I made the mistake of going in with a bunch of flowers for my mum. You’d think I’d gone in there with a flagon of Novichok the way I was virtually rugby-tackled by some mean-spirited functionary. Still, always better to be safe than sorry – don’t want killer bunches of sunflowers and sanths killing your patients do you. You don’t want something as filthy as a bunch of flowers making someone’s frightening/awful stay in a hospital a bit less horrible, oh no.

You can get your Novichok from Porton Down.

I bet the numbers of people who overdose on Opiates or even sythetic oapiates now has gone up a lot from previous years.
Also there is a big financial hit to people everywhere, even addicts. Fentanyl is much cheaper than heroine and very easy to overdose on.

Couple that with the enforced isolation people are experiencing, the almost total removal of drug, alcohol, addiction and mental health services. This is a witches brew for vastly increased death rates from overdoses.

Just heard of one, in last 15 minutes. A bloke – early 50s, who has worked sometimes for my partner, and they’ve known each other for decades. Medics went into the house and tried for an hour to revive him; helicopter hovering to take him to hospital if they succeeded. But no luck.
Also know of three local suicides in last few weeks

Agree. I come from a third world country and if poor people needed a drug fix, all they need to do is to buy a brand of super glue called “Rugby” and use it to sniff it. It’s reported to give one the same high as cannabis.

The rise in drug use in my area is worrying and yeah, its not helped by the withdrawal of services that’s needed to tackle this problem so I can see it getting worse.

Is it my imagination or are many of the mainstream media outlets (including the BBC) refusing to acknowledge the existence of yesterday’s anti-lockdown/mask protests in London?

Nope you’re not the only one who thinks that way.

Yeah, the coverage I saw live was courtesy of RT

The BBC have studiously avoided them, in general. They covered the big Berlin one a while back, and one of the more recent London ones, but the coverage was just a lot of smears and misrepresentation, referring to conspiracy theorists (without actually saying what those theories were) and QANON supporters. I wrote to Michael Wendling of the BBC Misinformation Unit to complain and he surprisingly responded – he told me that the views being propounded were erroneous and did not merit airing or debate. That tells you all you need to know about him and his unit, and possibly about the wider BBC – that he felt comfortable telling me that, in writing.

Do not forget the ‘free thinkers’ reported at the Berlin protest!

Watching the coverage via YT, there was no trouble, everyone was calm and the police behaved themselves. Not newsworthy then, despite thousands being there.

Here on the very edge of Central London there is proof that the Tier 2 lockdown is inflicting untold damage on the pub and restaurant businesses which Rishi was trying to save with his Eat Out to Help Out. Last night went to a local restaurant where we ate last Saturday. Then it was humming, last night very quiet. Staff saying they can’t keep up with ever changing rules and now can’t take coats to hang up. Walking back home past several other establishments and pubs noticed very few people, in some people clearly weren’t from same household but who cares. A Police van full of Police parked alongside what is usually a very busy pub but last night almost dead. Why aren’t the Police concentrating on the very real crime in our borough?

Our takings were markedly down yesterday (perhaps our out-of-towner customers were fearful of coming to plague-infested Essex!). I am hoping that our USP of being the only LS establishment in town will save us. I just wish all the bloody mask-zealots would go somewhere else, because their damned nastiness is really getting me down.

Don’t let it. Just take their money.

Agree – think I’d print out separate menus with a separate price list – to include a supplement for the extra stress and emotional damage caused

That doesn’t surprise me. Going out to eat has also become a joyless and dystopian experience. I get the feeling that it will also harm museums, art galleries and visitor attractions – when I went to London Zoo a few weeks’ ago, it was almost deserted.

Sorry, I mean a few days’ ago!

They are already harmed, masks, no tourists, people cancelling memberships. All establishments should stand together and and say no to Government if they are to have any hope of survival.

Big business and other affected organisations have been very slow to push back – it seems to consist mainly of grumbling and asking for money. More legal action needed, more pubic statements from CEOs, that clearly identify the narrative as the problem, not the virus. Sadly I expect they are either bought into it or too afraid to be seen as money-grabbing granny killers.

The Culture Fund is essentially a bribe IMO. I’ve been amazed that no-one in the performing arts for a start has decided to join forces with Van Morrison to get venues to open again as normal.

I agree. I despair that none of the museums and institutions have banded together to protest at these measures. They should have done it from the word go and refused to implement social distancing, masks and all the assorted insanity.

Its funny though that many museums jumped on the BLM bandwagon but have been silent on the assault on our civil liberties.

The pubs are in a impossible bind.
If they obey the law they will go bust.
I think the government have just created a whole new class of sceptic

The get out for Christmas.

Wasn’t Jesus born on Christmas? Funeral for the Turkey maybe or the sprouts.

“WHATEVER!!!!”

People should do what they want at Christmas and not even think of jokey ways around the rules. And our consciences are clear. We’re not the ones denying cancer patients urgent treatment or putting people on the dole.

Pic illustrates the ridiculousness of regulations. Everyone I know whether family or friends is going to ignore restrictions over Christmas period. Thereafter it will be impossible to enforce.

They don’t need to enforce it en masse. They just need to break our resistance to certain key principles.

They won’t go and lock everyone up while they’re eating their turkey or salmon or whatever. But if they want to detain a random person who they deem an agitator at some other point for some arbitrary reason, they can. They can claim they suspected them of having an infection.

Or they can respond like Dan Andrews after Victorian police ran over a mentally ill man and then kicked him in the head. His response was that “there’s an easy way to avoid this – don’t protest”.

I know, but some people I know are actually scared of breaking the rules even if they think they are daft, which as goes without saying they are.

Irish Times’ shameless propaganda: ‘Coronavirus: Eight further deaths and 1,276 new Covid-19 cases reported’ https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-eight-further-deaths-and-1-276-new-covid-19-cases-reported-1.4383975
Only if you actually click on and read the article, which most people don’t, do you see that ‘ One of the deaths occurred in June, two were in September and five in October. There have now been a total of 1,849 Covid-19 related deaths in Ireland’. Also, notice that the article says ‘related deaths’…

Relatively balanced (!) piece by the BBC (!) about the huge mess it all is. I think Triggle would be one of us, if he were allowed to be. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54546867

Indeed, he has put out a number of relatively balanced articles. As someone else pointed out, he seems to be on a career path to reading the late night shipping forecast.

I wrote to Deborah Cohen encouraging her to look into how “covid hospitalisation” and “covid death” statistics are deliberate misrepresentations. I don’t suppose she will, but it was worth a try. I don’t know how much leeway she has in deciding what to cover, at least for the BBC.

Or being the Jizz Mopper in the “This Morning” studios.

Ofcom should make the broadcast of this graph compulsory at the beginning of every news programme:

http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/dashboard/

Just a quick question, if I may: What does the NHS triage count reflect?

https://digital.nhs.uk/dashboards/nhs-pathways#what-this-data-shows

Thanks

I’m ashamed to admit after all these months that I ordered a snood yesterday. I still won’t be doing anything different, I don’t go to shops or to the pub now they’ve been included. I just need to be able to take my young kids places at a weekend without chance of a coming over belligerent and making a scene.

The snood seems the best idea at this stage, wearing a jacket now the weather has turned means I can just pull it up for a minute to buy some tickets at the arboretum or NT site like a Wild West stick-up then straight down after.

A scarf is a “normal” thing to wear at this time of the year.

I went to a garden center yesterday with a scarf very loosely wrapped around my face, the masked zombies never batted an eyelid.

I can’t remember exactly what the rules say at the moment (because I really dont care about them any more) but i think if you are caring for someone who is exempt, you are also exempt.

Not sure if “caring for a baby / child” fits into this category. If this is the case, I wouldn’t bother wearing any face covering whilst I’m with my daughter.

A scarf is a “normal” thing to wear at this time of the year.

That is a much better plan

No I don’t think it is. Please see my comment. MW

I went to a garden center yesterday with a scarf very loosely wrapped around my face, the masked zombies never batted an eyelid.

We have never worn masks, scarves or ‘snoods’ (what on earth is a snood anyway?) and nobody ever bats an eyelid.

If you cover your face you are complying. You really need to understand that. If you’re scared of what people might say, print out a badge or get a lanyard. It only says you are exempt, you do not need to pretend to have a disability or illness. Just do not comply with this tyranny and model your resistance to it to help others to understand. MW

I keep trying to explain to my friend that I get anxiety seeing faces covered up and therefor, no, I will not accompany you for a “relaxed” browse through the clothes shops.
She does not understand, and this is a woman who worked with people with learning disabilities all her life!

I understand you completely. Shopping is pretty much no go for me, apart from essentials. Not only is it seeing people with covered faces, but also constantly questioning the complete insanity of wearing one in the first place.

Sounds like a good call to me. I’m sure I would do the same if I had little ones.

I wear a bandana when I need to.

First of all,I recommend the Tom Woods video linked in the roundup. He’s very good.

BUT! Even though he doesn’t actually say anything new, he puts it all together in such a compelling way, that I’m now sitting here thinking “why are we even having this conversation?” There is no logical, scientific, philosophical or emotional argument for lockdown and the restrictions that actually takes even most of the reality into account.

You are living the experience of the revealing of mind control – which is not just about ‘them’ and so it is extremely dissonant to what you took or still take as your reality – while huge numbers of your fellow beings do not see it, support it or perceive it.

Good morning

Ruby wedding today

Will not be celebrating as we are bit to old for being beaten up by the police

We will save our mirth and merriment for the day we get to dance on his grave

Sincere felicitations to you and Mrs Cecil B.

Congratulations. Hope you can do something special together today.

Congratulations to you & the Mrs!

Have fun and yes we will get to dance on his grave!

Heartiest congratulations.
We will all dance together. Steer clear of me though, I have two left feet.

And you are still missing a ‘nie’ – that can’t be helping.

Yes, are you Ann or Annie? I’m never sure It probably doesn’t matter but it seems to because a lot of us feel like we know you and it’s disconcerting. Who knows how this would affect your dancing ability though…. MW

It disconcerts me as well. I just don’t know how to get my ie back!

(sounds like knee )

No, it just ruins my quickstep.

It will be our Golden wedding anniversary in June, 2022.
Do you think that it will be over by then?

Congratulations to you both.

Good Morning. Congratulations!
Shame that pig dictator is STILL in power today but I hope you two do something nice. I suggest a walk and a flask of tea or some BOOZE and a few slices of cake or some sarnies.

Many Congratulations to you and Mrs B!

Congratulations! I hope you’ve had a wonderful day nevertheless.

Tory grandees ask “what is the exit strategy”

Can these people get any thicker? There isn’t one and there was never meant to be one.

“Please don’t lynch me angry mob -look I asked about an exit strategy, I’m on your side”

A strategy is the means to achieve an objective. There was an objective in March: to save the NHS, since then zilch, or is it ‘zero covid’?

I think the objective is either to keep the theatre going until there is a vaccine, or to keep it going forever.

There is an objective – to make it look like they saved us all, so that they don’t get punished for the tens of thousands of deaths they have caused, and destruction of our culture and way of life. They are the highest order of criminals, but they got there through stupidity and greed.

The immediate goal is to put in some measures just at the point of a natural decrease, taking credit for it. But unfortunately this keeps getting scuppered by their parallel attempts to ramp up the fear with a dodgy test that can never show improvement.

The time for these ‘Tory grandees’ to piss or get off the pot came and went a long time ago. Their continued antics are just boring. (Regardless of their public position on Covid policy, almost all the politicos now are smirking like toddlers who’ve shat themselves and think mum hasn’t noticed).

Yet they seem to be our only realistic hope – a slim one.

Put not your faith in princes, nor in any child of man, in whom there is no salvation.

If there is any political solution, it must come from ourselves, and from forms of extra-parliamentary organisation. The existing ‘proper channels’ will achieve nothing, though it obviously important for us to be seen to be giving them a chance.

I’ve not much faith in them, just realistically think that the PM has to go for things to improve and they are the only ones who can push him. But they will need a push, from us. The route is to change public opinion to then increase pressure on politicians.

It seems like there is no exit strategy, though there may be a “crisis expansion” policy which would work as follows:

Declare a crisis (covid) and invent a solution (lockdown). Put in place enforcement (fines) to encourage compliance. You know that the solution will create deeper problems (e.g. mass economic hardship/state dependency) leading to a new and bigger crisis

This crisis, being larger, obviously will need a more radical solution, with a need for harsher enforcement for the increasing numbers who reject the solution

Repeat the above until you have absolute control over the population

It seems to me that we have have amassed sufficient intellectual ammunition to win the case in any open and fair forum. So surely it is time to take to the streets. As a small local group we are ready to make a start and are having leaflets printed for distribution, probably on local market days, which also provide opportunities for public speaking.

I stick with my stickers.

I am doing that too. Simple message, ‘There is no pandemic’ with locakdownsceptics.org link.

That might instantly make people think “denier”. Which is fine if that’s what you’re after, but if I were the reader, my interest would probably be piqued by something like “the pandemic is over”.

Ah but its going to come back as soon as we stop using the magic tiger horn.

But we have seen no tigers for years now?

See it works!

We did this in Eastbourne with KBF leaflets and home made placards. One of us used a mike! it was a great success – even people with masks pulled them down to talk – we chose a busy pedestrianised part of town. I do a car boot sale every Sunday in Brighton They’re still fairly NORMAL places where I can be outside and have banter and talk about Covid risk and spread the LS word in a chatty way.

Ha ha, loved that comedy bit.

Please find Norm MacDonald’s bit at the start of all this madness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piq4l5SV1y0

Kate Green (Shadow Education Secretary) on Sophie Ridge now failing to explain why another lockdown (aka circuit breaker) would be of any use. Gove now saying it isn’t going to happen -do we believe him?

Lockdown never ended. When will journalists start pointing this out?

Yes. If we allow people to think that this is not lockdown, they will start to think that this is normal and acceptable

Agree – I am still locked down, ie can’t or won’t do much of what I used to do.

Politically Johnson can’t take us into a “circuit breaker”/ lockdown because it will look like he is simply copying Starmer.

Hmm, hasn’t stopped Bozo over much else.

The only thing stoping Johnson over the circuit breaker lockdown,which has been planned for weeks,is if he feels there will be too much opposition.
Normal politics doesn’t exist anymore

Gove famously said a few months ago on Sunday morning TV (either Marr or Ridge) that masks would definitely NOT be mandatory in shops in England. A few days later……they became mandatory.

Oh dear! Gove said no masks and 2 days later……

Isn’t he the one that said masks wouldn’t be mandatory? Nuff said.

Gove also said no mandatory masks and what happened a few days later.

Scary question!

Certainly don’t believe Gove. He was the one that said we should chose whether to wear face masks and the next day, they announced mandatory face masks.

I went our small open-air market yesterday to get some fruit and veg. I said to the stallholder how nice to be outside and not expected to wear a mask as i just can’t and he said there were a lot of people like me. A lady standing nearby showed me her snood and said how wonderful it was and it didn’t let her glasses steam up. It was pretty but made of something like chiffon! I admired it but said great if it didn’t steam up her specs but that probably meant it wasn’t keeping much in the way of virus in or out either! She looked a bit taken aback. It’s all so ridiculous.

It’s hard to understand how people can seriously think that a snood or scarf or a bit of cloth is really protecting them from anything other than a chill from the wind. You only have to look at a virus particle size. I don’t like to be insulting but I have come to the conclusion that there are some not very bright people about and those that I thought were, I’ve changed my opinion.

On my travels to and from protests, when using public transport I wear a snood. I know this will be unpopular with a lot on here, but I’m travelling to a protest to protest there, not fight every battle going on a train or bus along the way. I’m travelling the way I do to avoid drawing attention to myself, to ensure I reach the protest.

I’m still waiting for some smartarse in a plastic/paper mask to point out that snoods are useless. Of course they are, I know they are, it’s why I’m wearing one ffs.

But the rag s/he is wearing is useless too.

I wear a bandana.

Nick, we can all only do what our energy levels dictate on any given day. I admit I always carry a scarf and an exemption card in my bag just in case. I’ve never used either but just having them on me gives me a bit more confidence to breeze into a shop. You have nothing to feel bad about and everything to be proud of by going to these protests. I think wearing something over your face in this instance is very sensible.

Je suis Samuel

Anyone got any idea why Ian Brown has deleted all of his sceptical tweets? Seems unlikely he is worried about upsetting people. Odd. Maybe pressure from his record label.

If it was from his record label then surely it would only be if a Roses reunion was on the cards. His solo career hasn’t hit any heights to be greatly affected.

It might have happened when the twitter ‘cleansing’ of the Biden story happened. It seemed to happen at the same time.

Toby mentions Andy Burnham correctly identifying a change in public mood. However, once a fortnight now, Johnson holds a TV announcement to put his foot on our throats just when we see a glimmer of hope. I don’t see any change til after the Easter break next year. Even then it will be gradual, until next September when we go through it all again. Every year from here on in.

Jeremy Farrer saying “infections a day are clearly over 50 000, over Vallance’s prediction”
They aren’t.
Vallance said that it wasn’t a prediction.

Has SAGE just mentally crumbled under pressure, like the UFO Cult did!

I wonder how many infections there were in March and April according to these new models? Because they have to be consistent don’t they?

I just saw his segment repeated on Sky – cancel Christmas, screaming for vaccines and more lockdowns. Looked up his history – director of Wellcome Trust and sits on the board of a multi billion dollar company. Shocked I was to discover this, shocked. I would have never guessed.

I see Toby has beaten me to it regarding yesterday’s march in London! Overall a pretty good day, even if numbers were disappointingly low. I had hoped that perhaps some sort of momentum had built up by now. I do however think that there are a lot of protests in other towns and cities now, and many people are doubtless girding their loins for the rally next Saturday (London, venue tbc, midday onwards) 24th October.

As Toby’s correspondent has already mentioned, there were two marches yesterday, with one group heading off to Downing Street and the rest of us (the larger group) meandering through Oxford Street towards Trafalgar Square. There isn’t much more to add to the correspondent’s report. The police behaved themselves, though they did get a little confused when we turned into Leicester Square to hold a mini-rally there. I think they were expecting Trafalgar Square, so if the TSG was waiting for us there, they were in for a disappointment…

There were a few speakers, but given my location, I couldn’t hear what was being said, though Piers Corbyn appeared unusually animated. It was here that I split, Leicester Square being conveniently close to London Waterloo, more so than Speaker’s Corner.

I hope we can build on numbers for next week’s rally, especially compared with the 26th September. We need to show this shitshow of a government that it really is game over.

For information on events, please go to

https://www.stopnewnormal.net

or

https://www.standupx.info

Right, time for a quick shower, then off to Liverpool to show support there:

Clayton Square, 1pm

Busy weekend…

TBH I only heard of the rally on the day it was held, I cannot be alone in that knowledge.

It’s often the case sadly. The StopNewNormal site lists them all, I think.

Thanks I’ll take a look.

There were 10 vans full of Territorial Support Group officers parked at St James park when I passed at 12.30. Luckily they weren’t deployed for the Oxford Street march. The treat is always present.

Isn’t it time Bliar paid for his own security? I sincerely hope we didn’t pay for that private jet!

I’m really worried about T&T giving contact details to polic. Quite apart from the serious civil liberties question – on what legal basis ? – that’s thousands of people none of whom have done ANYTHING wrong. And how will we be sure that those details are then destroyed. None of these powers will be withdrawn, particularly as now they seem to be conflating CoVid with flu . When are our NPs and civil liberties lawyers going to WAKE UP? What about the Information Commissioner? Those T&T people never consented you this!

Yes, it sounds like a shocking intrusion into civil liberties that seems to happen by diktat and without debate these days.
Is this the about the T&T app or the telephone tracing? I thought the app had no address details. Not that I plan to get involved with either .

Those contacted and told to isolate by test & trace personnel. For now.

My point is that these are people who have done nothing wrong snd not ill- and they’re in their thousands

And all on the basis of dubious positive tests at best and someone else’s interpretation of ‘ contact’’.

Not disagreeing. Was responding to PhilipF

Since when did this government care about our civil liberties?

I can’t think of ONE thing UK governments, blue or red, have done to increase or protect our civil liberties for the past 30 years. It’s just been a one-way street, where the removal of almost all rights and freedoms have been slowly chipped away at. We have no rights now at all. Covid comes first.

It’s good news as it will now result in loads of people abandoning track and trace and make more people sceptical of the government .

You could go to a rally and all wear stickers saying “I’ve had Covid-19”. Because then you’d be immune wouldn’t you.

I’ve only recently started using Twitter, mostly to follow Peter Hitchens. I saw that he has 138k followers, which I thought was impressive. Yesterday, I discovered that Piers Morgan has 7.6 million. Depressing. Shows what a hold our enemies have over the narrative.

Shows how sad 7.6 million people are.

A lot of Morgan’s will be Americans from his late night tv chat show days. But I agree with your overall point. Morgan is very clever. He sends himself up occasionally to create the illusion he’s not really a bad guy. When in fact he’s insidious. It’s a neat trick.

But it is always reassuring to be on the opposite side of the argument to Moron.

We manifest our own futures with our thoughts then actions. Everything is possible as long as you never, ever give up.

Great to hear off Heneghan again, he had gone quiet for a while. Someone needs to scrutinise the numbers.

I think Heneghan has always tried to steer a middle course that avoids shouting too loudly and frequently, whilst the CEBM keeps providing irrefutable data and analysis.

We can expect rising cancer motality over the next few months due to cancer screenings and operations having been deferred or cancelled

A certain percentage of these will always be there to provide positive PCR results in the 28 days before death, even if they are only false positives.

THe official Covid-19 death figures will therefore rise, prompting the NHS to further defer or cancel even more cancer screenings and operations.

Which after a few months will lead to a further rise in cancer mortality …..
…………………

With a little bit of help fom flu and pneumonia hey presto we have a self-sustaining statistical epidemic.

Hello all!

It’s been a while since I posted on here. I was at the Stand Up X march yesterday. It was awesome! The adrenaline rush from shutting down Oxford Street, stopping the traffic and the gobsmacked look from masked-up onlookers was incredible. Feel proud to be part of it.

I have some videos/photos on my Twitter feed. Check out twitter.com/WeWillBeFree82 to see them.

Hope you are all keeping well!
R Dawg

Shame there weren’t more of us. Hopefully next week…

Love the singing

Welcome back!

Don’t know if anybody else has spotted this, but a nugget of pure gold…

https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1316316547724566528

For the Twitterless:

If you read nothing else, make sure you read the LAST paragraph…

Someone shared a clip of Dr. Scott Atlas, adviser to the White House on COVID-19, on Laura Ingraham’s show.

Oh, was it good.

It began with Ingraham asking if Atlas thought Biden would lock America down again if “cases” began to rise in January.

Atlas replied:

“Anyone who’s talking about doing another lockdown has really not been paying attention for the last seven months and is simply out of touch with average Americans…. The p rolonged lockdowns are a complete disaster. They’re a complete disaster for missed health care; they’re a complete disaster for average working families and particularly for people who are working class and lower-income people.

“People have been killed by people who want to have prolonged lockdowns. And when I say ‘killed,’ I look at the data. And that means, for instance: this week it was shown that forty-six percent of the most common types of cancers were not diagnosed during the lockdown. Those cancers didn’t disappear. They’re there. People will present with much later, more widespread disease.”

Some 650,000 Americans missed important cancer treatment, Atlas added, thanks to “the fear instilled by our so-called public health experts. You could go on and on: 40 percent of people with acute strokes.”

After mentioning the statistic that I’ve shared with you, that an astonishing 25.5 percent of people between 18 and 24 contemplated suicide in the month of June alone, Atlas concluded: “It’s just completely off the rails.”

“And it’s much worse — not for the elites who are sipping lattes working for a tech company where I live, in Silicon Valley — for people who are average, working-class Americans, they are destroyed by prolonged lockdowns.”

And then, in direct response to a question about Dr. Fauci:

“History will record the faces of the public health expertise as some of the most sinful, egregious, epic failures in the history of public policy. They have killed people with their lack of understanding and their lack of caring about not just the impact of cases of COVID-19, a virus that the overwhelming majority of people do well in. They never cared to considered the impact of the policy itself, and the policy itself has been a complete epic failure, and honestly some people say a crime against humanity — these people should be held accountable for what they did.”

Wow, that reads more like a comment you would expect to find here!

Wish some of our politicians would stand up and say something similar…

Nick they are cowards looking after their own interests. The voters are just a means to getting their snouts in the taxpayers trough.

Quick, send him a link to the site

Atlas is some character. Great stuff.

I think he is marvellous.

I’ve retweeted that to Matt Hancock. Hope he enjoys watching.

So Baroness the Dildo Harding is going to grass you up to the police

Time to ditch those phones folks

People need to leave their phones at home. This electronic appendage which some find so addictive is a monitoring device so Big Brother can keep a close eye on you.

As Allison Pearson so brilliantly said last week, Dido queen of Carnage.

I had to take my mum to have her blood test last week, before going for her 6 monthly Lymphoma check up.
She was out in 5 minutes. It sounded as though the nurse was pleased to have a punter.

She just found out her check up is now cancelled and will now be conducted over the phone. This is a check up that normally involves a hands on, physical examination.

It’s now very clear to me, if it wasn’t already, that they think Covid is more important than cancer treatment.

Get someone to post that fact on Hancock’s twitter feed. If you do it, it won’t be anonymous. Shame him.

Tory Grandees Ask: “What’s the Exit Strategy?”

Well, we lockdownsceptics asked that question in March, before the idiotic lockdown, R, hammer&dance, t&t etc. ‘strstegies’ were implemented and followed.
So did Giesecke&Tegnell.

John Ioannidis – Science Hypocrisy and Lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdZlZSYv6nc&ab_channel=ZolNeveri

Am I right in thinking he was the chap who got the IFR correct months ago but the WHO wrote it off?

Yes. He called it back in March. Also conducted a serology study in California and was rubbished.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ekhgtr7W0AAyNd_?format=jpg&name=900×900

Right, I’m offski to Scouseland. See you all later.

Bon voyage.

Have a good day Nick. Power to the people, stick it to the man.

Calm down…calm down…

There is no doubt but Covid deaths are increasing. As I understand it deaths from respiratory illnesses simply just do increase in the autumn and winter.

Does anyone know how the rise in Covid mortality compares with the current mortality figures for flu? Is the increase in Covid deaths about the same? steeper? or less steep?

“There is no doubt but Covid deaths are increasing.”

What is the supporting evidence for that remark.

There isn’t any, the government is doing its usual deceiving the public by merging the flu and Covid stats as one, they are so predictable it’s embarrassing!

Yes.

Bear in mind that the definition of ‘covid death’ is ‘positive PCR + death within 28 days’ – ie the person may have died of something completely different.

In addition, don’t forget:

1. The problems with the PCR-test, acoordong to it’s inventor it is possible to theuse the PCR to “find almost anytthing in anyone”
2. A ‘Covid death’ can be recorded on the basis of a doctor ‘thinking that the patient died of covid’

Sure, I’m only looking at this now:-

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

Specifically: Deaths within 28 days of positive test by date reported

So, assuming a constant rate of ‘positive results’, the normal increase in mortality as we move into winter will automaticallly provide an increase in ‘covid deaths’.

Could have died from food poisoning, heart attack, stroke, cancer etcetc . But if Covid is present, that trumps everything

Remember this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5440785/Killer-flu-outbreak-blame-42-spike-deaths.html

The government certainly don’t seem to.

But remember, dying from flu is peaceful and lovely whereas dying from Covid is ghastly and awful and the worst way to go ever.

Someone posted a link on yesterday’s thread. Interesting read. Suggesting that covid could be pushing flu viruses out of the way, so to speak. https://www.theblaze.com/amp/horowitz-flu-season-coronavirus-2648227802?__twitter_impression=true

Interesting – much thanks for the link. But I’m sure flu hasn’t been crowded out in the U.K. I thought the ONS had been stating deaths from flu were running higher than deaths from Covid for some time?

Everybody is dying of covid, it’s rubbish, they can put any old crap on the death certificate. Fallen down the stairs covid, heart attack hmm well he did have a sore throat last week covid, head chopped of by a terrorist hmm he was looking a bit peaky covid.

Look up the pathologist dr Claire Craig on Twitter. She is doing a great job spotting the anomalies in the current data that means they are unlikely to be Covid deaths.

Oh no! The virus is not scaring enough people, we need something else to push more fear upon the people. What ever can we do about that? Oh, of course, the Muslim extremists have been a bit quiet this year, lets throw in a beheading in France to stoke up a bit more fear and hatred. Done.

Oh, and as far as judicial reviews go, Dolan and Cripps couldn’t even overturn the 10pm curfew so they stand no chance of forcing the government to concede over the CONvirus act.The only thing that stands any chance is going after individuals:

https://www.thebernician.net/private-criminal-prosecution-of-parliament-top-legal-team-engaged/

I hope every single one of the MPs voting for this insanity will be charged with fraud, genocide and treason. The interview with Mark Devlin is good. We need to superglue all government building doors shut!!!

On the track and trace thing, let me tell you a story. In the spring of 2017 I passed out while driving. My family were in the car but, fortunately there was no crash and no one was hurt. We went to A and E etc and I did the right thing by informing the DVLA and handing in my license while I organised appointments to ascertain the reason for my black out.

When I went to see the specialist I resolved to be honest with him so he could do his job so I informed him that I was a very, very occasional smoker and I also drink more than the government alcohol recommendations.

The doctor diagnosed my black out as a clear case of something called vaso vagal syncopy which is basically low blood pressure caused by a combination of dehydration and often by sitting down after a hot shower or bath, exactly as happened to me on that day.

He recommended that there was no reason why I shouldn’t get my license back and sure enough I was allowed to start driving again. However, two months later the DVLA took my license away because “I had shown persistent misuse of alcohol.” Without even thinking about it, I had signed a disclaimer allowing my doctor to share my medical notes with the DVLA, if I hadn’t consented they wouldn’t have given me my license back.

On the basis that I had admitted to drinking more than the state mandated alcohol guidelines they banned me from driving; I was completely sober when the black out happened, I had never had any issues with alcohol, had never broken any laws yet the state took my license away and there was nothing I could do about it. To be clear, my doctor was as astonished as me that the DVLA had this power.

Anyone who uses the T and T app or, indeed, hands over their details to the state is stark raving mad.

This is chilling. I am really worried about this – with QR now even being implemented in shops how can we all completely avoid it forever? Click and collect or delivery is fine but what about dentists, doctors, opticians or other services that we need occasionally? There will always be a point at which it can’t be avoided won’t there? They will make sure of it.

Today’s T&T is tomorrow’s vaccine ID.

QR codes are very dangerous, all jolly good fun now when we scan them in the pub to see the menu but will be used in the future to run and ruin our lives.

And it’s not a conspiracy…..

The biggest conspiracy is the one that tells us there are no conspiracies. Somewhat hackneyed, but true.

‘Misuse of alcohol’ means using it to make hand sanitizer.

Great post. Good to know how far they went in 2017. Imagine what they will do with your data today.

Also shows you that if you do the right thing, how badly it can affect you.

Went through the railway station yesterday, and this little dog went berserk with joy at seeing a real human face, jumping up, wagging its tail hard enough to make the whole dog rotate on the spot, etc. Tried hard to make a fuss of it without intimidating the (masked) owner.

Children and animals show natural wisdom sadly lost or repressed by many (most ?) adults

I have created a number of leaflets which you may like to use. You will find them here:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jmvlea0vog94cgy/AACI12kzLT-a5ChDIjZDmtiZa?dl=0

As always comments, particularly critical ones, are welcome.

Destroy Their Window of Davos Opportunity
Idea #1

A hug and kiss in. Hundreds, thousands meet in towns and cities and at a prescribed time say sexy o’clock everyone kisses. Herd immunity here we cum! Doesn’t have to be frenchies but can be rather French. Pecks, Cheeks. Or you may now kiss the bride. The young may spit in each others mouths as I understand is the thing these days. Just please no petting unless you are wearing heavy winter overcoats. FACE KISS HUG.

I’m in!

Wasn’t there a mass hug-in event in Holland?

Have we flattened the curve yet?

Bombed it to bits but no one noticed

Watched the Robert E Woods talk last night – utterly brilliant & highly recommended. . . Maybe he should be writing Trump’s speeches!

It’s a pity Gilbert and Sullivan aren’t around to make comic opera out of this nonsense.

The dancing nurses fit right into that.

The subject is perfect.

I am the very model of a modern malicious virus.

Please watch this new video with Dr Reiner Fuellmich : lockdowns are a crime against humanity

Their class action lawsuit to focus on 3 things 1) how dangerous is this virus? 2) reliability of PCR test 3) collateral damage

They are going to sue individuals such as Tedros from WHO and many others that lied about the pandemic, PCR etc. It will be the largest court lawsuit ever. A lot of people will try to stop us but we are a big group of people. The factual knowledge we will gain from this lawsuit will be used everywhere else in the world for further court cases. They are confident that they will win.

Dr Fuellmich is also representing 3 young German girls: criminal case against them for breaking social distancing rules and if need be will take it up to the Supreme Court. Hold the German Government responsible and make them pay for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJq_lCcMPnI&feature=youtu.be

https://acu2020.org

https://www.fuellmich.com

I cannot help thinking Lockdown Sceptics ought to avoid the “antivaxxer” terminology. Those of us who warned about the over-ambition of the global vaccine lobby – and it was never a matter of ideology – are being treated like “premature anti-Fascists”. The fact is that we are all being held in fake-narrative by the vaccine lobby in which they are going to rescues us all, and everyone ought to be more terrified than ever.

Dunno why, just feeling a bit more optimistic today.

To all on here worrying about a dystopian future, if you look at history, all the facist, dictatorial, totalitarian regimes eventually fall.

They may take years, but humankind eventually triumphs.

Of course the best thing is to not let them happen in the first place!

Nazi Germany lasted 12 years and took a World war to end.Soviet Russia lasted 70 years and China is still going strong.
We must stop this before it becomes intrenched

I agree we have to stop it before it is too late, I am feeling hopeful so many people are waking up, class actions around the world, doctors and scientists speaking up. It will be interesting how this whole Hunter Biden/ China blackmailing the Democrats story plays out. It potentially exposes so much corruption it is very possible it could wake up everyone to what is really going on.

Too late, the people love their slavery. They love totalitarian fascism. They love the feeling of personal empowerment being part of “It” gives them. They LOVE IT!

Probably some just don’t want to believe it’s happening…

And don’t forget the fear- they love that best of all

A Great Reset is a very 6th form thing to attempt. Our economic stability.. our old normal is a rag tag bunch of bits and bobs that have come together and evolved. This mad new normal is destined to fail. I’m still astonished this blatant coup has not (yet) been more widely identified as such or stopped.

I believe it will fail, not sure when though. I’m also worried what other dark tools the nutcases that are doing to this have up their sleeve. They’re not just going to say “Oh well, it was a fair cop, we’ll just go to prison now”

I’m just worried how many people have to die before it fails.

The might of the official propaganda machine – aka the BBC and the MSM.

File under weird.

In 2013 a rapper called Dr Creep made a video called ‘Pandemic’

On line goes:

“2020 combined with coronavirus bodies stacking”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSpQroCkHwU

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Does Bojo really follow polls?

I suspect polls are rigged. Like the mainstream media polls herd opinion. For example, claim brexit is losing, and hopefully you win remain. Claim Build Back Biden is winning, and hopefully Trump loses. Polls can make people vote with the masses or make people despondent and stay at home. I suspect polls are rigged by governments foreign and domestic. If they are not rigged however…

Some 50,000 people a day visit this site. Get on YouGov and vote in every lockdown poll.

Yougov a private owner but a site many think is actually connected to the government.

It was started by two Conservative MP’s.

YouGov is rigged.

I would like some rich sceptic to seed fund then crowdfund the commissioning of a properly targeted poll with sensible questions to get a truer idea of attitudes. I think it would show more scepticism than we expect, and would also inform how to target the next stage of the counter-propaganda campaign that I feel is needed

YouGov is notorious for a trendy-lefty contributing audience. I always check on the “results so far” button and I am always, always in a severe minority. YouGov is a self-selecting echo-chamber. The results are tailor-made for a left-of-centre leading story to back up a corrupt government point of view.

Yougov has a database of people’s voting habits going back to at least 2017. They developed this because they found people actually forget how they voted in previous elections and this created problems when polling for upcoming elections.

Other pollsters use the Yougov database and in 2019 most of them got the election result bang on – or within 1% at least. Yougov’s MRP election survey results were eagerly awaited and proved to be pretty accurate. They managed to track voting intentions almost on a day to day basis.

My experience chimes with the current polling. Most people seem to favour tighter restrictions. If the tide is turning I haven’t noticed it.

To what extent is the sample of people they poll on their website representative of the population as a whole?

Yes, exactly. I suspect that they are not very representative at all, but that a lot of MPs think that it is.

Read what mayo wrote again and then ask yourself DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE PEOPLE FORGOT WHO THEY VOTED FOR IN THE LAST ELECTION or over brexit or the election before that or the first time they ever voted .This person comes on day after day to undermine you and sap your morale so ignore it .

The first few surveys you take are to screen you. After that, the surveys you are invited to do are carefully selected. On top of that, the questions are often blatantly biased with no wriggle room to record your views accurately.

“My experience chimes with the current polling.”

But, as I’ve said to others on here your “experience” is not scientific.

Appearances can be deceptive.

My personal experience is that most people do not favour tighter restrictions.

Is my experience “right” and yours “wrong”?

It’s all academic anyway as we are all being subjected to lockdown promoting propaganda from the mainstream media and that is driving a lot of public opinion.

Many people are very confused about it all.

Hey Toby can we please just have a smiling face on the mask exemption bit and not have to look at that hideous German advert ,also what’s with selling so called sexy Swedish masks ? .The point is we don’t want masks ,not here ,not in sweden ,in fact nowhere on the planet .

Good point but the mask images do reinforce how sinister is their mandate.

Having a read of this at the moment from the ONS comparing pneumonia/flu/covid-19 deaths over the years:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsduetocoronaviruscovid19comparedwithdeathsfrominfluenzaandpneumoniaenglandandwales/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31august2020

It includes this comment:

Analysis of COVID-19 deaths in this bulletin, includes only those deaths with an underlying cause of death of COVID-19, referred to as “due to COVID-19”.

This is different from deaths “involving COVID-19” used in other publications, which includes deaths that had COVID-19 mentioned anywhere on the death certificate, whether as underlying cause or not.

I like this bit:

Coronaviruses The World Health Organization (WHO) defines coronaviruses as “a large family of viruses that are known to cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)”.

Between 2001 and 2018, there were 12 deaths in England and Wales due to a coronavirus infection, with a further 13 deaths mentioning the virus as a contributory factor on the death certificate.

So how did Ferguson et al link these numbers to the “we’re wall going to die” scenario in the modelling a they are not thats cary are they?

Some really good graphs, data and info in the report..

Influenza and pneumonia was mentioned on more death certificates than COVID-19, however COVID-19 was the underlying cause of death in over three times as many deaths between January and August 2020.

I thought the underlying cause of death in the majority of cases was old age and co-morbidities! I can’t make sense of that statement.

The DM is pushing the vaccine today. The common cold has no cure, but we spend millions on relieving the symptoms. Because covid, for most has no symptoms, they need a vaccine. To cure something you don’t know you have, you will need multiple vaccinations. What a world it would be if every industry behaved for the common good instead of greed.

The vaccines aren’t for stopping covid, they might lessen symptoms at most. They are a facade for setting up mass digital ID systems.

Yes, it could be water as far as anyone knows, but it comes with the ID

Dr Reiner Fuellmich explained in this interview that the reason why so many over 80s died in Bergamo (during the start of the so-called pandemic) is that in addition to them being cleared out of hospitals and chucked into care homes is that they received the flu vaccine around 2 weeks prior and that brought their immune systems down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJq_lCcMPnI&feature=youtu.be

My mother died in 2017, 2 weeks after her flu jab. no major problems, even at 86, but gone overnight with respiratory problems. I’ve always felt there was more to it.

Great point. Many people after receiving a flu shot, get the flu and then state that they will never do it again. The vaccine package insert even list the symptoms of the flu as side effects. Why would you get a flu shot if it gives you flu symptoms? Strong immune systems fight things like they flu. However everyone has to decide for themselves.

Always read the package insert of any vaccine or prescribed drug before deciding to take it.

Has anyone in UK ever been offered by their NHS GP practice the package insert for the annual flu vaccine to read before having the jab? I’ve now had it 3 times in last 10 years (previous 2 only because of going to Far East) and I haven’t ever even been told of its existence!

My mum wont have one now – she was ill for a couple of months over 2018/19 after having it. She couldnt breathe at one point and we were on holiday. Her neighbour took her to hospital in the middle of the night. She was sure it was the flu jab that caused it and knows someone else who felt similar and almost died.

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I’ve never worn a mask in a shop. I do have fairly bad asthma and a touch of autism but even if I didn’t I still would refuse.

The worst that happens is someone asks you if you have a mask. All you need say is exempt. You are not required to say more than that. Usually I am not challenged. Often I just continue on my way and blank the challenger. I have never experienced hostility from other shoppers. Only once did an old guy give me a funny look.

Be brave. Stop wearing the mask.

Its true, I’ve written to a number of shops to gauge their reaction to non mask wearers and all of them have said its not a problem, they have their own staff who dont wear masks for various reasons.

You must be lucky Chaos, because Ive been called names, had people video me and have seen others take a lot of contiuned abuse as a result of not wearing one.
It is not easy to be brave and frankly I shit myself everytime Im on public transport now.
I feel for a lot of people who clearly dont want to wear one, but are truly frightened of repurcussions

I’m 6ft1 with a 46 inch chest and I look a bit mad and dangerous (but I am not). And if it is my stature rather than my luck that has resulted in my experiencing no confrontations – then the confronters are very cowardly indeed.

Perhaps that’s it. I understand.

I am a small-size middle aged female. I try to be polite and smiley and so far have not received any aggro for not wearing a mask. I think it is a question of confidence. It certainly helps that I believe that I am exempt and a lawyer.

If someone asks me if I have a mask I just reply with a very simple “no”. That has always ended the conversation immediately with no further explanation.

https://twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/status/1317644812007448576/photo/1

Yeadon has again published this astonishing graph from NHS from 12 th Oct showing in grey the amount of C-19 in hospital not at all giving the impression over a raging pandemic. These are obviously leaked NHS data and it is unclear how he got hold of it. He seems to get this information rarely. You would think there should a formal publication of this.Is this only a weekly publication?

Deputy Chief MO telling Boris that you should not wear a face mask when you are healthy

https://twitter.com/banthebbc/status/1317480528484982787

This is worrying, the jubilant tone of the mask zealot, plus the technology use.
How to stigmatise the disabled.
https://www.cornwalllive.com/whats-on/shopping/shops-start-using-cctv-system-4617305?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Yes, another unpleasant development.

“Whiteley’s Garden Centre in Mirfield is using a Videcon system to control customers behaviour at the main entrance to the store”.

No mention of exemptions. Disability Discrimination Act now out of the window then? No doubt this will be enthusiastically adopted by many more outlets. MW

It is mentioned in the article, but no explanation of how we will be able to get in the shop. Not that I would go in a shop with that system anyway.

Quite right, me neither. I can only assume any organisation implementing this crap is being paid to do so. More psy-op (for a change!) MW

I entered Polhill garden centre in Sevenoaks yesterday who are using an even more sophisticated system. It scanned my face and immediately registered as ‘No Mask’ detected. It was quite a confusing entry and it was basically recording whether the numbers were safe to enter the store on a red / green basis. But the technology was out of place for a garden centre and seemed basically like face recogniition type software.

It was a quite sinister thing to see to go and buy some flower pots was an indication of the direction of travel. How long until we are barred unless we can scan correctly i.e. we have passed a test to gain entry. Most unpleasant but Sevenoaks is mask compliant central.

Not sure if this type of surveillance is allowed unless you give permission for them to scan your face and keep your ‘face’ on their system. I would definitely not shop at such a place. Vote with your feet.

The Sevenoaks people will soon wake up when their Audis, Range Rovers and Teslas are being stolen or they are mugged in Tunbridge Wells to fund some poor sod’s drug habit or to put food on the table.

Soon it’ll be No Vax, No Entry.

https://twitter.com/WesPegden/status/1317582964776226817

A brilliant twitter thread from Wes Pegden about the dwindling options of containing the pandemic. Highlight the difficulties of having co-operation of the public for too long time periods. In the end age targeted intervention is the least bad option.

Great spot. I’m sure the public would comply for extended periods of time, just as they did 1939-45, given clearly apparent danger.

The difference now is that it is clearly apparent to a growing number that there is no danger, or at least no more danger than from any other common cold coronavirus that we have been living with for some time.

The ONS August analysis sums it up for everyone who needs a reasonably brief quote to make the point:

‘In August 2020, there were 34,750 deaths registered in England, 2,060 deaths fewer than the five-year average (2015 to 2019) for August; in Wales, there were 2,379 deaths registered, 116 deaths fewer the five-year average for August.

The leading cause of death in August 2020 was dementia and Alzheimer’s disease in England (accounting for 10.9% of all deaths) and ischaemic heart disease in Wales (11.0% of all deaths); both leading causes of death were the same in July 2020.

The coronavirus (COVID-19) did not feature in the top ten leading causes of death in August 2020, in England or Wales. In England, COVID-19 was the 24th most common cause of death’

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/august2020

Next ONS monthly analysis (for September) due 23 Oct

My main concern with the age-targeted approach is that care homes would be turned into prisons, with few, if any, visits from relatives allowed, i.e. a continuation of the current situation for the indefinite future.

Toby in the Spectator:

But it gets worse. On Monday, Professor Gupta appeared on BBC News to talk about the new lockdown measures in the north of England. Just before she went on air, one of the producers told her not to mention the declaration. Naturally, she ignored this instruction, but where did it come from? At the end of last month, Professor Susan Michie, a member of Sage, took to Twitter to complain that she’d been invited on to the Today programme to discuss focused protection on the understanding that the scientists behind it would be portrayed as beyond the pale, only for Professor Gupta to make a compelling, logical argument. ‘I’d got prior agreement from R4 about the framing of the item,’ she wrote. ‘I was assured that this would not be held as an even-handed debate.’ On whose authority had she been given that assurance?

Good on Gupta for ignoring that BBC producer.

But hasn’t Susan Michie just exposed R4, admitting that they agreed to fix the debate and favour one side over the other? Aren’t the BBC supposed to be impartial (I know, ha ha)?

Let’s look on the (admittedly slim) bright side of this.

The story shows definitively that the SAGE narrative, as promulgated by Michie cannot stand up to proper scrutiny and debate.

Now this is only a start, given the massive lack of proper journalism – but they are definitely on the back foot in terms of their narrative (‘fairy story’)

Very true.

SAGE are (were) seen as the Government’s official position and in line with OFCOM guidance ( https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/information-for-industry/guidance/broadcast-standards-and-coronavirus ) that seems to be the narrative that’s therefore accepted.

My friend was on a BBC radio phone-in to speak to Sturgeon and before he went on he was told the things he must not mention,he ignored this and after he had spoken to her the producer was furious and gave him a good telling off !.

This needs sharing far and wide. Too many people still believe strongly in the impartiality of Auntie.

And the absolute holiness of our Leader in Edinburgh.

Effie Deans has compiled a little list of the doings of Nic il Stur Gon:
https://www.effiedeans.com/2020/10/the-snp-hall-of-shame.html?m=1

Why are R4 allowing Susan Michie, a member of the British Communist Party to try and set any agenda? They can invite her on as a guest, to ask her about her political beliefs, as i believe in free speech and strong sunlight on toxic views.

It is an absolute outrage that she was allowed to appear on the program under the assurance that “it would NOT be held as an even-handed debate” !

Susan Michie, Professor of Health Psychology & Director of Centre for Behaviour Change, UCL, on Twitter:

“They just don’t get it! Hard to understand how Govt can’t understand the simple maths of how a virus spreads – & will continue to spread. Or do they, & this is motivated obfuscation & divisiveness to distract from Govt dismantling of UK public sector & democracy.”

She is a professor of health psychology, not immunology, virology, or epidemiology, and is talking about “maths” regarding viral spread, not immunity, infectivity, etc. She’s no more qualified than the government ministers.

If people across the UK continue to work with the rest of the world for our health, and we continue to talk and share this vision of a healthier, stronger future, it will become our reality. Share, discuss and open the conversation. Find out more at http://www.decadeofhealth.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=d0aeNGTbbMU&app=desktop&ab_channel=DecadeofHealth

It looks like a vaccine promotion site. Gates has his name to it, so it won’t receive any positive reviews here.

I’ve been reading a textbook on virology recently, published in 2005. The author writes about the various types of vaccines, but is careful always to highlight not only the advantages, but also the possible disadvantages and dangers of vaccines. They all have them.

The biggest problem with Gates is that he promotes vaccines without ever saying that they have any dangers associated with them. His lack of candour about this invites – perhaps not unreasonably – a lot of criticism and suspicion and some have come to view him as a cynical eugenicist.

I don’t see Gates are intentionally evil, just misguided, and for that reason, I do think he is potentially dangerous.

I’ve noticed an advert, not paid proper attention to it.
Maybe I should get informed. I always say you need to know your enemy to fight them.

Mr Blair is considered a private ­citizen

But Mr Blair doesn’t consider himself to be a private citizen…

He thinks he’s king of the world. Or its saviour.

Someone needs to buy that evil tosser a one way ticket to Malaysia. Hang the bastard.

He’s special, the number of bodyguards he needs, prove it

Who unlocked his crypt to let him go to the U.S.?
Need stronger locks….

Was at an outdoor event yesterday. 300 ticketed people rather than the normal 600+ a day that just turn up. Saw a lot of people not seen for months and without exception the talk was “enough now”. Nothing revolutionary for people who write on here but for that group it was remarkable for change of opinion since back in March/April. They wouldn’t be missing their grandchild’s birthday party, they would be going to Blackpool for the Illuminations, had a coffee with the neighbours for months now and still will be, the house will be decorated for Halloween. Just little things but it helped make for one of the best days for ages

“Another said many of her neighbours had told her they would be at the march, but when she got to the station it was deserted.”

2020 has been an odd, awful year for me. I understand some have had it worse. I had county lines drug dealers move in next door last year. Guns, knives.. London yoof in my garden hiding from police. When I pleaded with neighbors to help. All pledged their unwavering support. Yet only two did. I know this because the police told me. Luckily we got them out (full closure order) just before lockdown otherwise I would have been stuck with them due to the covid ban on evictions. I lost my pet of 8 years. Unable to get proper vet treatment (and not wanting the madness of handing an animal over at the side door socially distanced) I tried to fix him on my own. I can’t write much more than that without crying. I feel such guilt. I had friends and family all buy into the propaganda. Having worked out something was fishy by April, I was a lonely Icke/Jones voice for months trying to get people to listen. I’ve had to go back on a low dose antidep along with glycine, inositol etc to try and keep mood stable so I don’t keep thinking of suicide.

This is why as a Thelemite I reject God yet pray and invoke all the same. These trials… too many.

All I ever wondered was how did it get this far? When all I ever wanted was a house and a car… and a family.

I think standing up for what you believe in is one of the best traits a person can have. It’s also one of the rarest traits around nowadays. Especially with the rise of social media, people just seem to follow whatever the popular view is, they don’t seem to actually consider things for themselves.

You should always be proud yourself, always remember that.

Bodo Schiffmann, the German doctor who was one of the first to ask questions and publish videos examining the official numbers and explaining the difference between a + test and illness, celebrated like a semi-god, his reason for standing up was that he felt like he could look at himself in the mirror in the morning and say, yes, I feel good about myself, as I work to protect my children now and their future.
If you feel good about what you do, you are doing the right thing.

He felt like he could look at himself in the mirror in the morning and say, yes, I feel good about myself

This is exactly why I could never bring myself to wear a mask. People say “oh, it’s easier” and I’m sure it is, but I’d get home and think “christ, I’ve gone against my beliefs for ease ?”

Exactly this. Plus we have a duty to resist.

I blame Crowley for all the madness that’s inflicted the world since the turn of the 20th century. He woke something up at Boleskine house that should never have been stirred.

You’ve been watching too much UK Column or specifically, David Scott.

Our local paper here in Lincolnshire is again doing it’s weekly bit of scaremongering.
‘ Cases in the district rocket by 190 in just a few days’ ( a district that I think has around 60,000 inhabitants) and ’11 positive cases in just one school’.In my experience a lot of the older people around here take what is printed in this paper as gospel so it is disgracefully stoking their fear.
The paper always has a ‘but life is great really and aren’t people so kind’ type stories every week too,they usually go something like this ( I made the following up but it’s what the stories are like),
‘We found out that 101 year old Mrs Crumblecake hasn’t been outside since February 10th and is low on supplies.Luckily our brave boys and girls of the local fire service rose to the challenge and used their new £2 million drone to deliver some goodies to her’,this would be with a photo of a despondent looking Mrs Crumblecake peering out of her bedroom window whilst grinning fire service personnel place a family pack of toilet rolls on her doorstep using their drone.
Then there is the ‘what about the kiddies ?’ type of story,
‘Little 6 year old Joshua sent us a letter saying that he was very sad that most of the people in the world had died of a virus and he was sad that he can’t do his favourite things anymore,his football club is closed,he can’t go swimming,the park is closed,his dance club is closed and he can’t play with his friends at school but it is okay because his mummy says that he is helping to keep everyone safe.We ran this story last week and Mr Kahn of Berts Pound Shop has kindly donated a Playstation to Joshua so he can keep busy at home’,the photo of this would have a socially distanced,smiling Mr Kahn handing little Joshua his Playstation in front of his parents house that has a thankyou NHS banner and more painted rainbows than you would see in an episode of the Care Bears stuck in the windows.

Brilliant!

Our local rag had a full-page spread from the B’I’D with a lovely pink heart at the middle with lovely photos of all the business owners (save one, obvs) saying a big “thank you” to all the lovely customers for their continued support during this “difficult time” … It was cringe-making.

The local papers are awful at the best of times but they are loving this Covid nonsense,god knows how many times they use ‘crisis’ and ‘safe’ in one edition.

comment to all those people that read “local press”
As mentioned before, there are 150 BBC employees scattered around local papers acting as “ local democracy reporters ” who are influencing what is reported. i.e BBC propaganda This is the list of who is where they are .
So dont expect anything not on message!

Our local rag is TOXIC. I stopped buying it March I will never buy it again.

You should switch sides as you are really good at this propaganda lark. Isn’t it great how science fiction has become reality, and what would once have looked like satire is entirely believable.

Just a wild guess, but when or if this madness ends and an enquiry held. Will the conclusions be “Lessons have been learnt”. Or am I being cynical?

“Should have been harder and earlier” probably.

I think there are certain sections (us) that will not allow this to be brushed under the carpet.

No,you are under the impression that after this everything will just go back to normal.We have had a coup, it’s just people do not realise it

Naive.
There won’t be an inquiry. And I’m not sure it’s going to end…

local papers never give stats on deaths from cancers and all the other treatable problems that have been sidelined. its criminal, cynical and evil. they truly are the gutter.

If the national MSM is so comprehensively useless in terms of actual ‘journalism’ as we know it, it’s hardly surprising that the local press conglomerates are just a cut-an-paste effort.

It’s been the case for a long time. Twenty years ago, I remember bollocking a journalist for coverage of a particular story. His response :

“Well – you’ve got to make a story.”

It’s always stuck with me as a comment

… and that was when the local rag at least pretended to still have ‘journalists’ rather than just short-trousered wannabe’s

I still buy a physical paper every week to support the jobs. Although not from my newsagent for now as they are covid hysterical.

the great covid reset always makes think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22mt0cVyW5c

All this scaremongering of hosipitals being full. Has anybody from government, MSM, SAGE got off their fat arse and actually visited these hospitals to see for themselves.

No, they are too busy stoking their ego by appearing on TV talking shit.

Or, have they actually ventured out to speak to their constituents?

Nope, I’ve written to my MP (SNP) 4 times now, apart from a generic out of office (I’m too busy, blah blah please bear with me) she hasn’t even acknowledged my emails.

I understand that the MSM reported that Blackpool hospital was full because of C19 cases. However, what they didn’t report was 8 beds in the hospital were allocated to C19 patents and they were all used. But the hospital has 760 beds and they were no where near capacity.

Yep, my understanding is each hospital has got a tiny allocation of covid beds. All bullshit and the masses are lappig it up and let’s not forget the beds are probably full of people who were already in hospital and have had a dodgy + test.

It’s hardly surprising that many young people are wearing masks. They have been shielded and protected all their young lives by the nanny state – perfect candidates for control through fear porn.

Daily Mail: LORD SUMPTION: I’m yet to meet a person who plans to obey mixing ban.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8851059/LORD-SUMPTION-Im-meet-person-plans-obey-mixing-ban.html

The comments are quite scary.There are some very stupid people in this country.

I always start with the Best Rated comments. Usually full of sceptics. Who cares what the last random commenter said?

Sadly it’s become clear that there are many people willing to dob others in for not obeying…

In twenty-twenty
We do not dance
We fix pandemics
with Tour de France

I suppose masked boxing matches will be next

This interchange between myself (sceptic56) and leicester911 is interesting, but not unexpected:
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/oadby-wigston-borough-passes-unwanted-4611975

A case medically is anyone with a positive test symptoms or not! – sums it up really, take your pick 77B or general ignorance, dangerous either way!

This comment of mine is awaiting moderation!
The test you had for chicken pox was for the antibodies, not the virus, which a test couldn’t find as it is in the nerves, which as someone working in healthcare would know, I too had that test and for hepatitis B.
This is the definition of a case from Dr Malcolm Kendrick “Previously, in the world of infectious diseases, it has been accepted that a ‘case’ represents someone with symptoms, usually severe symptoms, usually severe enough to be admitted to hospital.“
Where has Carl Heneghan been “disproved”? References please.
What about John Lee, Sunetra Gupta and others?
The RT-PCR test picks up any fragment of RNA from SARS-COV-2, it cannot determine whether the person is infected never mind being infectious. CoViD19 is the disease caused by SARS-COV-2, and like HIV/AIDS, having the virus doesn’t mean you have the disease.
Some personal information, my mother died of sepsis 14 years ago, so do not accuse me of lacking compassion. The median age of those who have died with a positive test for SARS-COV-2 is 82. What about compassion for those who were stage 1 treatable cancer who are now stage 3 or 4 untreatable cancer?

its there now

CONTENT DISABLED

That website is horrendous to try and read, the page keeps jumping all over the place. Tried to read some comments and gave up.

I think I’ve moved from the depression stage to “filled with murderous rage” stage. This is dangerous. Any there any shrinks out there that might want to share with us how one deals with these dark emotions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug

I admire those that just continue life mostly without masks, knowing something seems a tad off, I guess expecting all of this to at some point end without too much damage…

Attempting a serious answer, not that I’m a shrink but see if this is useful:
Murderous rage is a fundamental human/animal response (as also is terror) which then interacts with our emotions, memory and experience to create anger. Anger is a massively important driving force of energy that, used well, protects us from harm.
Work out how best to use your anger – routinely and daily – or if not ‘the best way’ just find ‘a way’. That’s a combination of:
(1) keeping informed and joining debates and encouraging other sceptics;
(2) keep things that you value continuing (friendship, family, pubs, artistic endeavours, hobbies, whatever)
(3) Pushback: talking to people, writing letters, creating and distributing leaflets, financial contributions if you can, etc.

having a drink in Croydon with some people and their covid alert on their phones showed medium and High risk. Given the app refers to post codes it won’t correspond to the boroughs of London. When London expanded its boundaries in the 60’s the outlying areas retained their post codes eg Enfield Middlesex.

New Royal Statistical Society Working Group, see: https://rss.org.uk/RSS/media/File-library/News/Press%20release/Royal-Statistical-Society-to-review-lack-of-statistical-evidence-around-diagnostic-tests-24-September-2020.pdf

“The RSS Working Group on Diagnostic Tests has been created in response to concerns about a lack of basic statistical evidence on clinical and analytical performance of a number of new diagnostic tests that are available–including the polymerase chain reaction(PCR) test widely used in the UK to detect Covid-19. The experts are calling for stronger statistical standards going forward, which they seek to inform […]

“The RSS has been concerned that, during the Covid-19 outbreak, many new diagnostic tests for SARS-CoV-2 antigen or antibodies have come to market for use both in clinical practice and for surveillance without adequate provision for statistical evaluation of their clinical and analytical performance.

The working group’s key aim is to review the statistical evidence needed to assure the performance of new tests, for patients, decision-makers and regulators, with particular reference to IVDs for infectious diseases.”

The Working Group can be contacted via the RSS website – perhaps any professional statisticians here might be able to input into this work?

That’s interesting. Given the properly restrained language, this is confirming that the PCR test is being used as a diagnostic tool without any proper validation – i.e is indeed the scam that we believe it to be.

The Arseholes at Yahoo are intent to maintain the fear.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/influencer-dmitriy-stuzhuk-dies-covid-032800603.html

Hmmm.
And there were no hidden pre-existing problems with his heart?
The number of people who have died under the age of 60 and without pre-existing conditions is tiny, just a few hundred in this country.

Just back after our weekly church Zoom service. Some prayers about ‘this awful virus’ as expected. Afterwards the discussion drifted onto flu jabs and how some had had this at walk through community halls. ‘Practice for the real one…’. Clearly everybody there has been taken in by the media nonsense. Piped in ‘there will never be a virus’ but after the response said my excuses and left. It is clear what we are up against when it is obvious by the tie any vaccine comes the virus will have totally disappeared, but they obviously cannot see that.

The programmes of the BBC earned Britain a powerful reputation for credibility that proved an asset long after the war ended. George Orwell later observed: “The BBC as far as its news goes has gained enormous prestige since about 1940 … ‘I heard it on the radio’ is now almost equivalent to ‘I know it must be true.’” Propaganda is still the same today

Where is the opposition? Where is the dissent? Why has not a single individual, politician, industrialist etc. taken up the mantle? There is surely an opportunity for someone now that the data is out there and unambiguous.
There needs to be a figurehead for the opposition to keep the narrative focused and pertinent. For example, now everyone is talking about the Tiers, the lockdowns or the face-masks. These are all sidelines, the real issue is the underlying Government narrative, which is that Covid is an unusually destructive and deadly disease, but that it not the case.
The latest data from NHS England & Worldometer.info demonstrate that this is just another pathogen the like of which we have dealt with for centuries without even passing comment. This data is not adjusted for the fact that the number of Covid deaths is wildly exaggerated:
1. Only 3% of “Covid” victims over 80 years of age did NOT have a pre diagnosed comorbidity.
2. 907 persons under 80 have died within 28 days of a PCR test without a pre-diagnosed comorbidity
3. 313 Of working age (under 60) have died with the same proviso.
4. More than half of all victims (>53%) were more than 80 years of age.
5. The death toll does not require a test nor a clinical diagnosis of Covid, nor the opinion of 2 separate doctors.
6. HIV/AIDS has killed more people this year than Covid
7. Four times as many people have died from smoking this year
8. Four times as many people have starved to death this year
9. Twice as many have died from alcohol this year
10. As many people have died on the road in 2020 as been attributed to Covid.
11. There are no unique symptoms on which to base a clinical diagnosis.
12. The unique definition of ‘cases’ for Covid is a positive PCR test. This is NOT the same as disease or infection. To be defined as diseased or infected for any other disease symptoms are required as well, usually, a positive test if such exists.
13. Total deaths 2019/20 are 5% FEWER than 1999/2000 adjusted for population
For the old in poor health, suffering from a serious illness it is quite likely that any new strain on their system; flu, a fall, mild food poisoning, depression etc. will prove too much and result in death. In such circumstances the cause of death would almost never be classified as flu, or mild food poisoning etc. but by the serious illness from which they suffered; cancer, ischaemic heart disease, dimentia etc.. In each of these cases, were the ‘straw’ Covid rather than flu or a cold for example, it would most certainly be on the death certificate and be included in the Government’s inflated figures. Despite this, flu deaths are currently
The majority of those “infected” with SARS CoV-2 do not develop Covid, neither are they infectious yet we are led to believe that we are all potential Typhoid Marys. This is not the case. The majority of those infected of ALL ages survive this condition with no ill effects, yet every single person who dies shortly after a positive test is categorised as a Covid death. That is unequivocally nonsense, it is absurd to suggest it , yet that is a ‘faux fact’ on which economically destructive, liberty denying policy is being based.
The real issue is not the specific imposition of absurd anti-democratic laws but the misinformation. Arguing about masks, lockdown or social distancing, all useless, achieves nothing & suits the fear mongers for they are red herrings; the battle ground should be the truth, the DATA.
If a coherent, credible figurehead could be found or step forward to lead the re-education against the fear mongering Johnson, Wancock, Wittless, Unbalanced, the BBC et al there would be a light at the end of the tunnel, until then we are descending into Dystopia with ‘useful idiots’ like Chris Green, MP in Bolton proclaiming these lockdowns to be “… over the coming years.”
There – I got it off my chest, perhaps I can stop screaming at the moon now? I might even get some sleep one day soon.

Good points but facts don’t matter. Nobody cares. Sadly.

No. The sheep just keep falling for the sPiKiNg CaSeS soundbites.

What good is the truth if nobody believes it?

“we are led to believe that we are all potential Typhoid Marys.”

Typhoid is a bacterial infection. It is an entirely different sort of pathogen to a virus. Viruses cannot be carried in this way.

‘useful idiots’ like Chris Green, MP in Bolton”

I’m not sure how you can classify Chris Green as a “useful idiot”? He resigned his post in protest. His comment about restrictions was disturbing, but like MP Lt Col Ellwood (of the 77th Brigade) – who commented on twitter about a “new world order” – he may just have been saying it to get attention.

(I regard Ellwood’s comment as trolling and a cynical attempt to encourage lockdown sceptic damaging conspiracy theories.)

By contrast there are a hardcore of MPs and journalists (including the one who produces this site) that are complaining as loudly as they can about the lockdowns.

Iain Duncan Smith, Graham Brady, Desmond Swayne and Charles Walker being perhaps chief among the MPs protesting. Maybe as Tories they are not your cup of tea? Not the right sort of lockdown sceptics?

And there are legal challenges being mounted.

Apart from “screaming at the moon” what are you doing?

John P – please reply in a normal friendly discursive manner.You appear to make interesting points but if you want me to read what you write, then make it a pleasant experience to do so.

I’m sorry Rosie, but I am not going to self censor.

You do not police my speech.

If I feel strongly about something then I’m going to say it.

You can’t please everyone in life.

If you don’t want to read what I write then I am happy with that.

It is your choice.

I’m not talking about self-censorship, I’m talking about making your meaning clear! quite the opposite. Perhaps some people will make the effort, but I’m not wading past all your cynicism and rudeness which merely hide your opinions.
It’s your choice but if you want to be read, make it readable.

I’m not sure what you mean, Rosie. I didn’t have any problems understanding what John is trying to say. I didn’t find it particularly offensive, especially in light of the personal insults I’ve seen on the site recently. John didn’t insult anyone, he just disagreed with the OP.

Did you really take issue with Typhoid Mary on the basis of typhoid being bacterial? Oh dear. You need help.

Chris Green resigned in OCTOBER, having sat for months doing SFA but watch the destruction of our economy & the killing of thousands by NHS rationing, as did the entire parliamentary Conservative Party, Labour Party etc. They collectively did nothing to oppose NPIs for which there was not and still isn’t evidence of efficacy.
MPs have a primary & fundamental obligation to act in the interests of their constituents, this they have failed to even try to do. Permitting by inaction the de facto rule by diktat, the suppression of our ancient liberties is an abdication of their obligations.
To impose any restrictions on the people requires proof positive of efficacy, not the ravings of inept academics with little or no knowledge of the issues & consequences.
For Green to resign now while spreading more fear, promoting the idea of permanent imprisonment of the people by a tyrannical Government isn’t good enough.
As for Toby, I am well aware of his efforts and am extremely grateful for them along with Hitchens, InProportion2, Heneghan, Sikora, Yeadon et al, but none of that detracts from the central thesis – where is the leadership to provide a coherent, coordinated & focussed campaign oppose this abuse.

Ovis , I could have written your first paragraph myself, but not as elegantly.

And as for your,

“The problem is that British institutions now work on a control and compliance model. Even where checks and balances formally exist, in practice they have been tamed. Actual decision making takes place among a tiny number of people, with opaque processes and no statement of criteria or priorities. In any but the most normal circumstances, decisions are going to be crap, and then complied with throughout the system.”

The first institutions to succumb were education and science. And of course the “taming” has been achieved by tight reins on funding (penalties for straying, rewards for compliance). Were, say, a free-spirited scientist brave enough to suggest pursuing a line of investigation that challenges institutional bias, their funding would dry up.

The dumbing-down agenda in education, the endless promotion of ‘team work’ (shorthand for conforming, and the extinguishing of individual spirit), the no platforming agenda of institutions, etc; in short, large scale social engineering on a more and more granular level. It is alarming. Who voted for this?

Everyone who voted for socialism, for that is what it is…..

Yawn. More delusion.

No. It’s been neoliberalism – neoliberalism continuously ever since Thatcher acceded to it running riot and allowed the monster of global finance and corporatism to run out of control.

And the implementation of this shit show has been by the Tory Party. There hasn’t been anything like ‘socialism’ in charge for 40 years, and the last thing that Starmer is with his pathetic shadowing of Mr Toad is ‘socialist’ however defined.

Simple facts, no matter how much those facts contradict prejudice.

Neoliberalism is socialism for corporates.

See the banks and 2008.

Public spending increased in real terms for every year except two of the Thatcher premiership.

Post war Democratic Liberal Socialism is still Socialism, red in tooth and claw, as we see writ large across the world, today……..

The only “liberalism” is with people’s sex lives.
Free speech and all other people’s freedoms have been under slow but sustained attack since Blair, ie the salami-slice approach.
The State is now bigger than ever and all-encompassing. I’m not going to defend the Tories on this. They’ve been a continuation of Blair’s New Labour project, and couldn’t be described as conservative except by the most hopefully deluded.
We’re not under full-blown socialism yet, but we might as well be, with a bankrupted economy, and a government that’s apparently found the fabled Magic Money Tree, the police more concerned about someone’s hurt feeling than someone being robbed or assaulted, political policing, and the government treating its own citizens as the enemy.
As far as most Tory voters are concerned, Labour and Tory parties are just two cheeks of the same left-wing a*se.

Thankyou for the mention, David.

You are right to flag up education as an instance of the pattern – and especially I would say Higher Education (just because there is still a belief that HE is autonomous). Universities are autonomous on paper, but controlled principally through the funding councils. The advent of OfStud just underlines what was already an established system of control and compliance. Not that OfStud is doing a great job of standing up for students right now! But that just makes the point. It’s not about students; it’s about tightening control. So we see all the good little VCs treating their own students like biological waste, clearly on the orders of central government.

As to the politics of it, look guys: both the Blue Party and the Red Party tighten the ratchet. Neither ever makes any serious attempt to reverse the ratchet. This malaise goes deeper than the Left-Right divide, at least as represented in our mainstream politics. The best political explanation I can see comes from Joseph Tainter ( The Collapse of Complex Societies – read and weep).

A small thing, but I just tried to access three Telegraph articles from the links in today’s LS post, fully expecting to meet their paywall as I’m not a subscriber. So I wasn’t surprised that I couldn’t read the articles by Michael Deacon “The fight back against these miserable new tiers has already begun” (and he’s on their side) or the one by Juliet Samuel “Herd immunity could now be our least bad option”. What surprised me was that I was able to read the whole of the article by MP Neil O’Brien, “I’ve crunched the numbers and a herd immunity strategy would lead to a lot of deaths” – no paywall there. Seems a bit weird. Cue the X-files music…

The one by O’Brien is not behind the paywall. Some coronavirus articles seem to be made freely available. I’m not sure what rationale they’re using to select such articles.

Brainwashing, obviously. Anything pro lockdown, pro muzzle, pro fear narrative is available to read.

Exactly! Treat people like mushrooms: feed them sh*t and keep them in the dark.

After WW2 people asked why did the German people allow the rise of Hitler and fascism? Now they know.

A lot of parallels.Repression was a gradual process in Nazi Germany and under cover of war turned into full scale genocide

As has been said elsewhere, now people know how they’d have behaved under German occupation….

I always thought I would be part of the resistance; now I KNOW I would be.

As a native German I have been saying this since end of March.

I thought that it wasn’t mandatory to wear face masks?
The police in Manchester are now fining people for not wearing one, regardless of exemption.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/trafford-centre-shoppers-fined-police-19124111

I hope the people who got fines don’t pay it.

‘if exempt bring proof ‘, I don’t think so,once again the Police don’t know the law.I’m also glad there is no more important crime to deal with in Manchester.

Fascist pigs

Can’t be enough snitched kids parties to break up.

It’s important to note that a “relevant person” can issue you with a fixed penalty notice (FPN) if they don’t believe that you have a reasonable excuse for not wearing a face covering. See the “Fines and offences” section of Law or Fiction’s face covering page for details.

Consequently, you will need to have a “something” to use to convince your challenger that you are exempt. The law does not dictate what that something is, but if your challenger is not convinced, then you can be issued with a FPN. It is then your choice whether you suck it up and pay (half the cost, if within 14 days of issuance), or whether you take it to court and argue the toss there.

I keep a self-signed low mood exemption for such purposes. I have never had to use it, so I can’t testify to its effectiveness.

Remember that the general public cannot challenge you. Only a “relevant person” can challenge you. As per section 5.9 of the regulations, the current list of relevant persons is:

• A constable.
• A police community support officer.
• A TfL officer working at a TfL transport hub.
• A person designated by the Secretary of State for the purposes of enforcing “The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings in a Relevant Place) (England) Regulations 2020”.

If you want a convenient document to show to would-be challengers, you might consider printing out one of my discriminatory challenges documents.

Please note that I am a cow, not a lawyer.

In that case, Mabel, they could say they don’t believe you regardless of what you show them. Anything is acceptable proof, because *nothing* is required. Gov guidance mentions “a home made sign”. The legislation makes no mention whatsoever of proof of exemption – it doesn’t say you do or you don’t need it. Guidance, however says you should not be challenged. I’m reading all this as “If you refuse, you are breaking the law, but if you are exempt, you are within the law.”
I should also point out that I am a fictional Watch Commander, not a lawyer

To my reading, the regulations provide a lot of wiggle room for the relevant person to say “I don’t believe you” for a broad range of reasons.

Section 7.1 says, “An authorised person may issue a fixed penalty notice to anyone that the authorised person reasonably believes (a) has committed an offence under these Regulations, and (b) is aged 18 or over.” (emphasis mine).

However, I believe that (with the possible exception of Manchester recently), the police have been told to accept any reasonable excuse without kicking off.

I believe this because the crime stats show only 28 fixed penalty notices having been issued (up to 2020-09-21) for breaches of the face covering regulations (in a retail setting; transport settings add another 61).

It could be argued that this is because the general public are 99.99999% behind the regulations, but it strikes me as more likely that the government doesn’t want the regulations challenged in court.

The more FPNs the police hand out, the more chance there is that some Awkward Git will contest their FPN loudly in court. A judgement favourable to the cause of the bare faced would certainly not support the government’s totalitarian aspirations.

And what will they take as acceptable ‘proof’? Seeing as the government guidance says “even a home made sign”, a piece of cornflake box with ‘exempt’ written on would be sufficient.

Bring proof of exemption?! WTF, are you supposed to carry your medical history around with you? Put on the mask and have a panic attack to demonstrate the effects? More fear propaganda and wrong.

The way thing’s are going now, they will probably make you carry your medical history about with you.
Also, if you read the comments on the article, someone commented about all the people looking like sheep wearing them, to which, some scared pansy replied “not as bad as the people in ICU with tubes hanging out of them”

As a comment on Twitter said, there will be the equivalent of PPI claims for these Covid measures and behaviours of the police. Doesn’t matter if it never gets to court. You can claim against the police themselves for not following the law.

It’s a massive can of worms.

For that reason, I almost hope they try it on with me. I carry (albeit on my phone) pictures of my diagnostic documents. ‘Contributions’ to the holiday I intend to take once this is over are very much welcomed.

Might be useful to republish links to (a) the regulations and (b) the guidance for people to use.

Also citizens’ rights when accosted by the police.

True. & then forward them to the police in Manchester.

Rather than proof of exemption people should carry a transcript of the regulation and hand it to them instead.

Available here .

Is there a lower form of life than the police? I can’t think of one.

The people giving them their orders

Comment on that story:

11 min ago
There is no medical evidence that wearing a face covering is detrimental to health under any circumstances, Just wear one

Really?

It was a survey I received today. Also asked where I thought the country was on covid & also the world. It was the extra questions bit after the usual boring survey about what telly you watch.
If anyone was ever in ANY doubt about the direction the Govt is planning to go in with the vaccine, they might find this interesting. I’ve just been sent a YouGov survey (I get them fairly regularly)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ekl_z1CXUAEZRKW?format=jpg&name=medium

https://twitter.com/Hellsmac/status/1317756256816345088

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54499758 diary of a physician in Bradford

“the hospital remains in its own Narnia” wtf does that mean? You can only enter via a wardrobe? Or the article is a complete piece of fiction, indeed a fairy tale,

“But there is another change. This time we are no longer heroes” you never were !!!

“Ian, a semi-retired accountant, says he doesn’t know how he caught the virus………. “We haven’t even been going round to see people, and we’ve been wearing masks whenever we went shopping”” So social distancing and wearing nappies is really effective!!!!! .

The anti Sweden brigade will love this

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/10/18/sweden-to-introduce-local-lockdowns-as-coronavirus-cases-rise/amp/

Very weak journalism though.

Figures don’t seem to warrant it:

https://www.covid19insweden.com/en/

Despite all of the reasonableness of the Swedish response so far, it would be naive of us to think that they can resist the global pressure, which must be considerable.

Have the Swedish authorities waited 7 months to show how ‘incompetent’ they are.

They are probably under pressure from abroad but also at home – I am sure there are plenty of Swedes ready to blame the government for every death, who want to be “more” protected. They are humans, like the rest of us, with similar flaws.

Tegnell is not, publicly at least, and has never been, a “let it rip” merchant who thinks the virus is not a serious threat. He has always been very cautious, has never said it was over, and they are set to carry on with the guidance until well into next year. It was always about a sustainable flattening of the curve over a long period.

I think they have been overly cautious, but that’s easy for me to say. It’s a very conservative approach, a middle ground. In my limited experience from spending a week there, way preferable, if for no other reason than you feel the authorities regard you as an adult not a loony or a biohazard.

Finally catching up with the rest of the world.

Hardly

I read this and it’s old news – stuff that was announced a while ago. The way read it, any additional measures will almost certainly be guidance only, and additional measures/guidance is only being considered and prepared – nothing actually in place yet

It is light years away from what is happening here

I’m just concerned that Sweden will eventually cave into the LD/mask orthodoxy under international pressure.

But why? On 15 Oct there were no deaths and 600 “cases”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden

Would not pay much attention to it. Seems like someone needed to fill a gap and get a headline to sell advertising.

As the frenchman Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr said well over a hundred years ago – plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

The tendency for a state to gravitate towards a form of fascism is constant.

And yet ultimately servitude is always voluntary.

Sadly the masses are to always to cowed; too short sighted; too greedy; too indoctrination to withdraw their acquiescence upon which our overloads base their oppression.

Defy or die.

That “lost children of COVID” excerpt in the main news is tragic. The damage we have done to the young in an effort to ‘protect’ the elderly is horrifying.

It’s sick.

And yet the teachers’ unions are clamouring for 2 week school closures.

Well they’ve worked for 6 weeks solid – it’s a bit of a shock for them really

So true! And only a 3% pay rise for navigating the plague!

My daughter’s school has been giving themselves a half day each week due to the extra Covid stress and stain that the poor teachers and administrators have been under!

But, it has hardly been to protect the elderly, it HAS been to protect government cock-ups plus the dreadfully enfeebled NHS. This is NOT a war between generations, it IS a war between ‘government’ and us!

The demographic on this site seems to me to skew towards pensionable age

Correction: “The damage the government have done to the young in an effort to ‘protect’ the elderly is horrifying.” WE did not do this.

More positively I have been playing early 1990s Levellers loudly for my and my neighbours aural pleasure (well certainly my pleasure – jury out on my neighbours enjoyment).

Rousing stuff. I particularly enjoyed “Sell Out”. Seems particularly apropos.

Lyrics with credit to Levellers:

The year was 1991, it seems that freedom is dead and gone
The power of the rich is held by few
Keep the young paralyzed, educated by your lies
Keep the old ones happy with the news
Tell the singer not to song his song
Tell the poet that she’s wrong
And in the courts you’ll win the case with lies
’cause you sold them down the river-o
Do I belong to some ancient race
I like to walk in ancient places
These are things that I can understand
I don’t believe in your modern way
Don’t care about the things you say
Your policies have failed the test of time
’cause you sold them down the river-o
Now in a land not far away,
there’s men in prison because they say
The colour of your skin is not a question
Did you rally to their side
No, you sat back and let them die
I don’t know how you get to sleep at night
’cause you sold them down the river-o

There’s only ONE WAY of life and that’s your own.

Truly unbelievable:- Apparently, “University of York in Britain advised students who are self isolating because of Covid-19 to wait in their rooms for a minute if they hear a fire alarm, to minimise the risk of healthy people being infected as they flee the burning building.”

Ye gods, can this really be true???

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/17/peak-covid-self-isolating-students-advised-to-wait-in-their-rooms-if-they-hear-a-fire-alarm/

What if their room is on fire. Are they still supposed to wait a minute in case they spread this deadly disease?

Yes, reported here…madness
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/15/is-covid-more-deadly-than-fire/

It is true, but I have heard that they have now withdrawn this “advice”.

I truly hope the students take absolutely no notice of this. Aside from the safety aspect and the potential risk of waiting too long and getting caught in a fire, if all the students wait for a minute, doesn’t that mean they all still leave at the same time??
When a fire alarm goes off, they should leave immediately. They should not wait or prefabricated. They don’t know if the danger or real or not, if there’s a fire how far it might have spread, or how much smoke there is.

If the New York Port Authority hadn’t told people that there was no danger and they should continue working in the Twin Towers, more people might have been saved.

Seems like many of Europe’s central banks were very keen to get their gold reserves up by a deadline of 2020…

“As early as 2015, I put forward the idea that the year 2020 looked to be a leading contender for a monetary system Reset.

I reached that conclusion based on a trend I had spotted in the gold repatriation timelines announced by a number of European central banks beginning in 2013.

And who better to know the inside plans for a future and much needed reset of the financial system than the world’s most powerful central banks, the unaccountable and secretive institutions where gold is at the heart of their balance sheets, and would be the natural and reserve asset anchor in any new international monetary system.

Besides, the global financial crisis that began in 2007/2008 never really ended. It was merely patched up, prolonged, and put on life support by central bank interventions in the form of unceasing quantitative easing (QE), asset buying, and artificially low interest rates.”

https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/ronan-manly/planned-in-advance-by-central-banks-a-2020-system-reset/

Changed his tune a bit:

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1238151926379880449?s=09

“It’s not possible to stop everybody getting it and it’s also not desirable because you want some immunity in the population”

Sir Patrick Vallance, the UK’s chief scientific adviser, says main aim is to protect vulnerable and elderly from coronavirus

March 12th.

I am aware of the date.

But not everybody here may be.

I originally thought you were thinking that this was what he was saying now.

i think starting the comment with
“Changed his tune a bit ” implies some time gap between when it was said and present day

No that clear. I also thought it implied that he’d changed his to tune TO that not from THAT. I don’t watch the goons on TV so how would I know?

Here’s a picture for you to share on social media.

The Daily Mail (which has been a hysterical disgrace since day one) actually has a sensible editorial comment alongside Lord Sumption’s piece today. I know it’s a dreadful rag but it would be a big deal if they came round.

Geoff Norcott absolutely brilliant. I’m just glad he singled out NZ and not the Isle of Man – I hope nobody tells him we’ve been carting people off to jail and landing them with a criminal record for infringing the rulez.

I find it utterly depressing that so many young people are muzzled-up in the open air.
Don’t they do any research to inform themselves of their ”risk”? Or do they think they’re doing it for the greater good, in case they’re ”spreaders”? Though I doubt that.
Of course, we can’t expect any public information about ”risk” or lack of it – that would mean they wouldn’t be able to control the vast majority as they are doing.

Why on earth don’t people do their own research? The general ignorance is quite breathtaking – with people STILL thinking that if they contract it, it’s a death sentence!

It’ll be peer pressure, ignorance, and non-stop propaganda backed up by force.

The young are so much more used to being brainwashed than the older generations. These days you have to be truly exceptional to be going against the propaganda in the education system – like those younger sceptics who post on here. These are our only hope for the future – not the useless, brainless, unthinking maskoids.

i.e Social media.
The first true generation to grow up with it all in place from the word go.

Where I live it’s more or less 100% people in between shops who muzzle themselves on the street. As soon as you move away from the town centre, virtually no-one is masked. London seems to have more masks on the street, but some of those people may be on their way to/from public transport – round my way most people drive everywhere so that’s not a factor.

There are a lot of people muzzled on the street in my part of south east London. Some are on their way to a bus or between shops, some are the terrified elderly, easily the majority are proudly walking down the street signalling their virtue. I like to audibly mutter “idiot” at them every time I walk past one. Achieves nothing, makes me feel better.

My step-daughter is 28 and has asthma, so is exempt. However, she wears a mask, so she doesn’t stand out or get trolled by her so-called ‘friends’ on FB. I find her quite typical of her generation – FB is everything and independent research would be way down her list, as it would interfere with her daily life!

New legal challenge to masks and lockdown measures has been commenced in England.

Plaintiffs include Dr Kevin Corbett, Dr Niall McCrae and Stephen Morris

https://twitter.com/bl_byrne/status/1317469356117426176

https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/the-coronavirus-act-2020/?fbclid=IwAR2V0MDLYmw016c00PFb7AWF0DpCqFqGJh8HPua7sZh-0zjqA5rRSpYb9UQ

Great news!

I wish these fundraising sites accepted PayPal. I don’t like using my credit card online.

Seen in Kirklees:

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Good grief, is this for real?? They are actually calling people sheep to their faces.

lol yer, everyday, the sheep don’t know it

I honestly don’t know if this a genuine council poster or if it is a piss-take – that’s the world we now live in.

That’s brilliant – maybe they’re pushing the limits to see how much they can get past them before they smell a rat

How about two thirds of a bullock

A donkey?

No thank you, I’ve already eaten.

although Drakeford would view this as a sex education advert ….

If this is real, please send to Carl Vernon. He’d love it, and probably use it on his show (baaaa).

https://www.carlvernon.com/

It’s for real. The page below has a link to the PDF download under Signs And Stickers For Businesses To Use

https://www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/health-and-well-being/covid19-business-advice.aspx

The video of the Romanian police: could just as easily been the UK, considering their behaviour over the last six months, and their treatment of the anti-lockdown/masks protests.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zYCuyht3Meo
Sadiq Khan owned by David Kurten.

Who gave the orders to treat the various London protests so differently…Sadiq Khan wouldn’t say.

That was a great video. Khan (unsurprisingly) was unprepared and totally out of his depth.

4.5 billion people boarded a flight in 2019. If you could make it LAW in the global airline industry that EVERY passenger had to buy an “easy-to-use-at-home-test” for $250 to prove they were “covid negative” before boarding a flight in 2021, how much money would you stand to make (gross turnover… and you have to assume profit margins are HUGE) in ONE YEAR? Tests! It’s not vaccines, it’s TESTS! They will normalise testing. #followthemoney
Can someone on here please tweet this exact question to Chris Green and Anna Brees as I do not have or want a Twitter account. TIA

Exactly, it’s a money making exercise, transferring our money into their bank accounts.

And the best bit is that troublesome individuals (like us) could easily be blacklisted and receive positive tests for the rest of our lives.

Welcome to the Soviet Union. And no, you cannot leave.

Hey, the US has had no fly lists for decades (since 9/11). And you will never be told why you’re on the list or how to get off it.

As Frank Zappa once memorably said “Welcome to the United States.”

Good thing we are on an island only a few miles from multiple (hopefully mutually disagreeing) countries, if things get desperate improvising a raft might not be so hard in good weather. Pity the New Zealanders, much further from any countries they might escape to. Australians, incidentally, might escape in to papua new guinea, there are short island-to-island crossings up in the torres straight area which the aussies (at least historically) couldn’t police as thoroughly as elsewhere due to cultural traditions of island-island trade.

While I agree that $250 per test is quite a money spinner, the impact on demand for flights would be substantial, especially considering that for us here in the UK, lots of flights cost less than £190 (the current cost of that test in GBP). Multiply that times every family member, and many people would make different decisions that don’t involve flights.

Good point – average person would get one jab a year but multiple tests…

In Liverpool, this is good…

Is anything on fire yet?

Whats happening?

Psychopaths – which are the people who have the capability of being serial killers (though few are serial killers) – have a prevalence in the population of 1%……

The world population is 7.8 Billion

There are 78 MILLION Psychopaths running amok on this planet right now. Many of these are people you know casually and of whom you probably think very highly.

Psychopaths, by virtue of their ruthless nature and lack of compassion, tend to rise very high in society.

Conspiracy? No, it’s blatantly obvious. These people are legion and need to be stopped.

When psychopaths run the world, the world goes mad…

People are being told to be psychopaths for the greater good, they are given easy ways to be a psychopath, they don’t have to think about it, simple things, wear a mask… It’s the cornerstone of the covid death cult. Coercion into this new global community, a transformation of humanity into individual voiceless faceless psychopaths all working to enforce the new communitarian vision of global conformity and compliance and nobody will be left alone behind.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeykREAlYSg
Sky News Australia: ‘The Great Reset’: World leaders to harness COVID and pursue ‘sinister’ climate agenda

Published on 11 Oct 2020
“Sky News host Rowan Dean says the next World Economic Forum in Davos has morphed from a “jet-setter climate gabfest” into a sinister “anti-democratic enterprise designed to destroy your job, steal your prosperity and rob your kids of a future”.

“It’s a hardcore leftist eco-horror show replete with quasi fascism,” he said.

Mr Dean highlighted what he described as a “disturbing trend among many of the world’s left-wing elites to increasingly conflate COVID-19 with climate change.

“Many are going so far as to suggest that all the measures applied to the coronavirus, the lockdowns, the destruction of businesses, the suppression of dissent, curfews, strong-arm police tactics, should become the ‘new normal’ for dealing with climate change.

Mr Dean said the next World Economic Forum is planning “to convince governments with the help of big businesses and big tech to bring about something deeply sinister called ‘The Great Reset’.”

“It is a program designed to strip us all of our fundamental democratic rights in favour of a new form of society as dictated by the elites”.

Mr Dean said the advertising for ‘The Great Reset’ was “just about as cliched and vomit-inducing as the most inane corporate ad can be. This promo is saying that all the very worst things in the world, from the coronavirus to bushfires to riots to pollution to poverty are somehow linked.

“Then it is claiming they can magically disappear. Literally at the push of a button and just like that, everything in the world is made right and pure again.

“The Great Reset. What could be simpler?

Mr Dean said ultimately “lunatics including Prince Charles and the United Nations and the IMF want to replicate the global response to COVID and repurpose it for climate change, to enforce zero net emissions”.”

https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/10/dangerous-elites-planning-the-great-reset/
Spectator Australia Magazine : Dangerous elites planning ‘the Great Reset’
Davos 2021 will launch its own Green New Deal. Be afraid.
“The response to Covid follows closely the approach taken by global warming activists. But as Prince Charles puts it, ‘The threat of climate-change has been more gradual (than the pandemic) — but its devastating reality for many people and their livelihoods around the world, and its ever greater potential to disrupt, surpasses even that of Covid-19’. He argues we have ‘a golden opportunity to seize something good from the crisis’.

The World Economic Forum, a Geneva-based non-profit foundation whose ranks include Prince Charles and other climate change crusaders like Al Gore and Greta Thunberg, together with the secretary general of the United Nations, the president of the European Central Bank, the secretary-general of the OECD, the managing director of the IMF, George Soros, world trade union leaders, chief executives of Big Tech and representatives of NGOs like Greenpeace and WWF, believes climate action must be top of the global agenda as we emerge from Covid-19.”

This isn’t a “conspiracy theory.” It’s hardly even a conspiracy when the participle are on camera and on record telling us what they’re doing.
Governments everywhere are following a pre-planned script. The constant lockdowns are designed to demoralize, giving people false hope before locking them up again, like marching someone on death row to the electric chair every day before taking them back to their cell again.

“Much of the WEF’s agenda can be found in America’s radical Left’s Green New Deal, which addresses climate change and economic inequality. It embraces the spirit of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal and the social and economic reforms which he introduced to lift the US out of the Great Depression. However, unlike the New Deal, the Great Reset and the Green New Deal share a belief that the world is being governed by fundamentally wrong assumptions and that ‘dramatic transformation is possible with a change of mindset’.”

Fell about laughing at the description of Davos as ‘leftist’.

Thanks for that, Rick. I did a TLDR and then went back and looked at the Davos “leftist” bit. I did need a laugh. It’s like people who say this is all part of a “green agenda”. Yeah, like all the people who are abandoning public transport for private cars make for a green agenda. The traffic where I live is even worse than ever.

Technocratic, Elitist, Globalist and Totalitarian are better descriptions. Anyone truly left wing should be equally concerned about the WEF plans – they are all about strengthening the power of elite multinational companies and billionaires.

Who writes this shit?

The last person I know who offered cake ended up having her fucking head cut off

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-54511965

The BBC is now indistinguishable from the news reels in Starship Troopers.

i did like the bit with the children stamping on the SAGE members and the government

Bang on. Jesus there is a whole series of them – “Should I get the flu Jab”, “How to wear your muzzle”, “How to migrate from the potty to the big boys toilet” (maybe I made one of those up).

https://www.remove-the-tory-government.org

Jesus Christ, my eyeballs. It’s like Geocities all over again. All that’s missing is the <blink> tag.

It does feel a bit 1995, doesn’t it?

I wonder if Netscape Navigator runs on Windows 10 and if the site looks in better rendered in that?

Just met a friend in a coffeeshop, as no-one at the door, just walked in. no T&T, sanitising, face covering. All other customers masked, sanitising, politely waiting to be seated, some entertainment provided by people trying to open and close the door without touching the handle.
Some forgot to put their face covering after toilet visit or leaving, halfway way walking realised…stopped….oh, well, might as well continue walking now.

Overheard staff saying to our 3rd party who arrived much later no need to do T&T as first person gave her details. Pluspoint for them they knew that!

I hope the attached image is readable? the words seem chillingly apposite for our times, also I find that Hermann Goring reminds me of a current politician, does anyone else see a likeness?

Goose bumps ….

I suspect every so called ‘enemy the state’ the UK has faced in my lifetime was greatly exaggerated to remove freedoms and liberties of individuals and increase state power especially the post 2000 ‘war on terror’.

Every police officer even in rural areas will use the ‘you could be a terrorist’ excuse to hassle you if given half the chance.

I have read this site for some time with great interest. Since being in Thailand mid-Jan and mixing with Chinese many from Wuhan i have been very sceptical about all the coronavirus/covid-19 hype. I am currently in France where I usually live for most of the year.
I have only just ‘signed on’ as a user because I preferred to slug it out on MSM sites with the indoctrinated, rather than converse on an ‘echo chamber’ ,but recently its become dangerous. I am sure that my computer and modem have been deliberately targeted on two seperate occasions, after posting on ToL website.
Today I have commented on their lead story about vaccinates by Christmas etc. Quoting the Forbes article by Prof Haseltine of Harvard describing the ridiculously low threshold and small tested populations used by the pharmas to get emergency approvals. I also referred to the vaccine being akin to taking paracetomal and cough medicine, as it does nothing to address infections or deaths.
The volume of personal abuse received is alarming. There is no attempt to read the source document, no attempt to widen knowledge, its an attack by religious zealots.
I fear that western societies relatively small time of using logic and the real scientific method is over. We are in a new age of dogma.

Welcome. I get your echo chamber thoughts but I think a large proportion of us on here – myself included – are really grateful for the moral support we need sometimes when we are struggling with a bad day. The links, data, arguments are good too, but the sanctuary of this community is invaluable in our dark moments.

‘We are in a new age of dogma.’ Certainly are or perhaps back to an old age of superstition and witch hunts. Woe betide anyone who challenges the cult of Covidology, all must believe and wear the sacred symbol of a bit of snotty old rag tied across your lower face. All must tremble before the ridiculous scare stories but out by the Prophet Hancock and all must believe in his magic vaccine whereby he will save us all.

We saw that really with the eruption of PC culture about 20 years ago. In many ways Covid hysteria is an effusion of that culture, where feelings and wishes trump facts and pragmatic choice,

PARADOGMA. DocU By Marijn Poels English subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJR1Xz-WV4&t=521s

Welcome!

Drosten goes on the defensive (on twitter) in response to article in Multipolar

“Nobody chose this pandemic. We’re all in the same boat” he whines

https://twitter.com/c_drosten/status/1317706764977164288?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

The mask requirement: containment of epidemics or bodily harm in office?

The Robert Koch Institute, which is subordinate to the federal government, recommends a situational mask requirement for the general public in public spaces. According to its own admission, the authority relies on scientific studies and institutions such as the World Health Organization. But does the RKI correctly reflect the current research situation? A critical consideration. Paul Scheyer.

OliverMarten 18/10/20 MULTIPOLARhttps://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/die-maskenpflicht

Just wanted to point out that not all children who are newly home educated are a lost cause, and the motivation for embarking on this educational option is not always ‘the virus’. In many case it’s the ludicrous Covid secure measures put in place at the expense of children’s mental wellbeing, the many non-Covid related issues present in the school system, and the attraction of home educating as an alternative. Home educating can be a wonderful alternative to school if done well, regardless of the motivation. Trust me. I’m a home educator!