2020-10-31

Looks like I’m first again, been a while!
Really not sure where this is all heading at the moment but trying to stay as optimistic as possible.

I was nearly first today. Fancy that.

Disobey.

Action to end the interminable unlawful lockdown

Just like to point out that nothing has changed since April. Police have no power to stop you being outside your home.

The coronavirus police state (2): The illusion of police powers under Regulations 6 & 8 of Coronavirus Restrictions

Hang in there everyone

If we’re referring to our political masters, I’d prefer to “hang everyone in there”.

Nice one

Lovely bit of wit to brighten our day. Thank you.

Moral support is lovely, but getting infinitely harder by the day (or even hour) to do what you suggest.

What we need are more doctors and nurses speaking out. How many patients in hospital are actually being TREATED for Covid compared to how many went into hospital for something else and then tested positive but have no symptoms?

Anecdotally a nursing friend of a friend tells us that there are only 10 patients in the Covid ward of our massive hospital, which is a regional trauma centre for a very large area. We were put into tier 2 because the council begged for it.

Locals are asking the council to tell us how many of these “cases” come from outside the area, but are meeting with total silence.

Is the council ‘begging for it’ because of the cash they get from the government if they lock down?

Of course they are Carrie. How could anyone possibly have thought otherwise?!!!

Think of all the lovely new cycle lanes they will be able to afford.

No shortage of dosh for cycle lanes. They’re popping up everywhere in my area and are invariably empty.

Yes. They’re just perfect for the disabled!

Stories in the press the other day telling of councils that are removing their cycle lanes, as seen in an Alex Bellfield video. Point being not all are following the gov. script which is some good news surely. We are together in thought and spirit. Don’t give up. Keep yourself right and ready to fight in whatever way becomes necessary.

This is my theory that if a lot of doctors and nurses spoke out in public then the majority of the brainwashed public would actually stop, listen and think a bit more.

I truly believe that doctors and nurses should be utterly ashamed of themselves.. I had to visit my gp recently she was more bothered about mask preaching me than what I went to her for… Keeping up the lie to get there big fat vaccine bonus no doubt…

Similarly I had to point blank as the asthma nurse if she would actually treat me without a mask or should I leave because I did not wish to spend the remaining half of my appointment time continuing to argue with her about the efficacy of mask wearing, the GP was slightly less pushy but only slightly….

Agree. Here in Spain they’ve announced they’re going on strike. Don’t know how they expect anyone will notice as the public health system has all but shut down. Still, if they’re on strike they won’t be getting paid for sitting around on their areas all day.

A general strike should be considered bring down the rogue government bury the LibLabConSNP permanently

And who would replace them – BLM?

Not BLM they’re pseudo communists anyone who gormlessly continues to support the LibLabConSNP deserve all they get if you want continued mass immigration, subservience to the EU UN WHO USA and poverty then the LibLabConSNP is for you

But you’ve failed to see the irony and haven’t answered my question either.

Doctors really do need to speak out as they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us to what this government has signed up to. If Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates get their way and it seems they will, then there won’t be much need for most doctors or other medical staff. But first, as front line agents of the corrupt government, they will have to inject both themselves and the rest of us, with one or another of the Gates’s terminator vaccines. Then no more lazy afternoons on the golf course, for these overpaid collaborators.

wonder how much the gagging orders on the nhs staff play a part

Yes, consultants really do spend afternoons on the golf course and swan around slightly tipsy squeezing nurses bottoms. That is totally how it is.

What do you think the GBD declaration was about, who do you think is signing that!? What good has that done? Other than encourage other ‘scientists’ to claim there is no such thing as herd immunity. Our own CMO, a doctor has the PMs ear, no one else is being heard. Doctors and nurses have no more power than anyone else, why would we? If I let my mask slip below my nose at work I will be subject to disciplinary action, no joke. This is out of everyone’s control. We can just try to keep seeing patients, doing our jobs and being here, which we have been doing despite what people seem to think.

Not all doctors are simply order followers, but sadly most of them are, judging by their abysmal performance during the early lockdown. It’s one thing signing worthy declarations, but that’s the relatively easy part and for every one that has signed, how many more are keeping their heads down and hoping it will all go away? The first thing that doctors and medical staff really need to do is to make it clear to governments that they won’t get involved in Covid-19 vaccination programs and of course they should loudly say why. However they won’t do that, will they?

I would ask my GP if he or she would allow me to purchase my dose of vaccine and then have it injected into an old banana or into midair.

don’t think this is true, this has happened in usa and germany and belgium no no avail i don’t believe words is going to change things, note the mask/usa thing in today’s page, it was action that made that little change

I live on a county line but the health trust is cross county. The testing station here gets the referrals from the trust wherever they live. Tested here so the numbers are given for here, not for the adjoining county where they reside. Yours is probably the same

My nurse partner just informed me they do not have to self isolate, if track and traced, unless they have symptoms. They also do not have to isolate if going abroad.

credulity is a more peaceful possession of the mind than curiosity

 Jonathan Swift, A Tale of A Tub , 1704

Just musing about the financial strategy to go alongside another lockdown. At present those on in-work benefits are entitled to £500 if they self-isolate. If we are all told to stay at home does everyone receiving such benefits get the payment? No one? What if you manage to rustle up a positive test during lockdown? No more furlough. Job support scheme not going to cut the mustard. Is Rishi going to pull a further economic support package out of the bag to pacify the masses, or are the Government really going to let the economic horror hit home….

They’ll probably find yet another magic money tree again to pacify the majority of people who would otherwise be out of work.

Won’t help the self employed or freelance though, a lot of them got no support during the first lockdown.

That’s what I am imagining. I was lucky to get the self-employed grant first time around. I’m not expecting anything more and I would rather that no one was offered anything if it forces people to face up to facts.

The idea of replacing Boris with Rishi does not excite me at all – rather the opposite, given what we know about him..

There is no one in this cabinet of mediocre intellectual free charmless cretins that could inspire anyone Sunak is a bankers puppet

Their magic money tree doesn’t really help a lot of employees either. I’ve had my hours cut to 50% and have been put on the new ‘job support scheme’. But I’m very close to the cap so won’t really receive anything from the government. In fact I’m possibly above the cap, but the government guidance on this is so vague that my company doesn’t actually know yet, despite the scheme beginning on Monday!

Now I acknowledge that I’m ‘lucky’ (maybe the wrong word, I worked damn hard to get into a good position) to have a job which provides a reasonable income even at 50%, but actually I’d much prefer the government to leave the economy alone and allow me the opportunity to earn the other half!

Especially considering it is the higher paying jobs that pay the tax for all the public sector nice to haves.

I lack the technical skill to do it myself, but surely the time is ripe for one of those Youtube “Downfall” parodies – you know the ones with footage of the deluded Adolf moving non-existent divisions round a map while the Reich crumbles about him.

9th

Sadly, the regime appears to be quite secure in its bunker right now. The Covid Reich is not collapsing.

Time for the 1922 committee and Sir Graham Brady to take action.

Dan Hodges on Twitter just now:

Cabinet ministers going beyond anger over Boris’s political management. Openly questioning if he’s completely lost it. Zero engagement.

Yes. There’s a lot of good noise coming out of Westminster

There always is.

Do something then I remember Thatcher being removed why not Bozo

What, you mean get the Commons bar properly open again?

That made me chuckle – cheers!

That’s not far away I can see it happening Johnson must go now

Surely they’any potential successor will lie in wait till dePiffle has crashed us out of Brexit?

Brexit doesn’t worry me as much as what the Johnson government is doing to people and instead of you all sitting on your fat backsides at home start standing up for your rights

He’s not my MP but I have emailed him a few times with my views. Latest one last night.

Randomly came across Delores Cahill and Heiko Schoening talking in Stockholm! No boys in blue with big sticks here.

You in Sweden now?

What? They’re here in Sweden NOW? Is there a broadcast somewhere?

No idea unfortunately. Maybe a thousand people watching? Had to leave as have timed tickets for Abba museum!

Please tell us all about it when you can. Have a wonderful day.

Good that they are over here. The Swedes are not into ‘conspiracy theories’ like great reset and are rather laid back about there being a bigger agenda. People look at me like I am mad when I suggest this may not be ‘just about a virus’!

Caveat – I have never been to Sweden.

It seems to me that there is no country on earth more on board with the ideology of what we call ‘globalism’ than Sweden.

Is that a fair comment do you think?

I’ve been a few times. Find them a kind and nice people, their main fault is naivety about the outside world.

Agree about the naivety! They also believe what the MSM outside Sweden say about Trump so a lot of people see him as the devil incarnate, and cannot believe anything positive about him.

There is a tendency not to research for themselves. When Brexit happened, they were totally shocked, but since the migrant invasion in 2015, and the EU wanting Sweden to bail out the rest of the EU post Coronavirus, their eyes have been opened somewhat! They are reaping the downsides of mass migration without the infrastructure here to support it..

A loose affiliation of UK, Norway, Sweden would be quite powerful if the Swedes ever left the EU.Perhaps even Iceland. (I assume Denmark is a bit too tied to Germany economically.)

No, I would not say so, not as an ideology anyway.

But they are a country that values consensus and group-decision-making internally (ie within Sweden). Which in some ways is good, but means there is a lot of discussion and decisions take a long time. Look at how many parties there are in the Swedish Parliament! And they are very conflict-averse people, do not like to obviously offend.

I am reading more and more anti-EU sentiment, especially when it comes to CV19 bailouts, because with Sweden having a strong economy, they do not think it fair that they should be bailing everyone else out, when these countries could have chosen to go Sweden’s way. They are at last beginning to understand the disadvantages that come with an external government – well the EU anyway – calling the shots.

The things that make Sweden an easy target for globalist takeover is the ‘openness’ of society, especially with regard to personal information. Very easy to find out anyone’s address, who they live with, whether they own a business, and what they earn – even what car they drive. (Other info like health stuff is much harder to access, fortunately!)

They are also very politically correct and into equality of opportunity (not outcome, not as yet anyway).

Thanks.

A high-trust Northern European society.

You’re welcome

I suspect that the amount of personal data the government already holds, plus the fact that a lot of daily life has already been digitalised, are the reasons that Sweden has not been *forced* by the WHO/WEF/UN to lock down..

“ I am reading more and more anti-EU sentiment, especially when it comes to CV19 bailouts, because with Sweden having a strong economy, they do not think it fair that they should be bailing everyone else out, when these countries could have chosen to go Sweden’s way.”

That’s excellent news, because bailing out the Med and France is at some point soon either going to crack the EU wide open or establish the United States of Europe under German control.

The EU is on borrowed time we need to leave them to it

I’m liking the Swedes more and more… lol.

Oh that’s such a brilliant museum. Enjoy!

It was great!

Short video posted on David Kurten’s Twitter page.

The lockdown is about extending the “pandemic” so the vaccine is still relevant. Without lockdown it would all be over and the pharmaceutical companies (and their shareholders) wouldn’t get their public money bonanza.

I have to agree with your analysis. The “pandemic” could be over tomorrow if governments reduced testing to only people with symptoms. Of course the PCR is still a dodgy test, but at least the number of “cases” would go down dramatically if testing was limited to those with symptoms. So there must be some reason why every government continues to test everyone to ensure the number of “cases” stays high. As an aside, I got together with my family last night and my 20-year-old niece gets a test every 2 weeks for “peace of mind.” I didn’t want to flip out on her, but not only is it a gross abuse of what limited resources we have, it’s sheer insanity. Peace of mind??? She’s 20 and healthy so would have a case of sniffles at worst. And then she says she thinks she likely had it back in February!

i think testing should only be done when necessary in hospital/care homes, not of general public at all, i think it’s just a total waste of resources, OUR money, and functions only as a tool of the government to keep up the dangerous farce

No point at all in testing anybody seeing as nearly all positives are actually false. Do away with testing and the “pandemic” would be over.

Maybe you should have asked if she’d do that “for peace of mind” if she had to pay £80 per pop.

There won’t be a vaccine people should stop obsessing it will be contained most likely

And also they won’t get the massive reduction in population they so crave.

Burundi, East Africa– Population 12 Million:

President until recently – Pierre Nkurunziza

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Nkurunziza

First this:

“Burundi President Pierre Nkurunziza has again undermined COVID-19 pandemic as a hoax being peddled by other countries, urging Burundians to ignore it.

On Friday May 1, the outgoing president whose popularity ratings have significantly dropped, appeared at a gathering to celebrate international labour day.”

https://taarifa.rw/president-nkurunzia-says-covid-19-is-a-hoax/

..and then:

On May 12th Burundi expelled 4 WHO officials coordinating the Coronavirus stuff:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/14/burundi-expels-who-officials-coordinating-coronavirus-response/

…. and then on June 8th::

“The outgoing president of Burundi has died of a sudden illness, suspected by many to be Covid-19.

The cause of Pierre Nkurunziza’s death was described as a heart attack in a government statement. The 55-year-old was due to stand down in August following elections last month.

It was unclear exactly when he died. A government statement said the president, a keen sports enthusiast, had attended a game of volleyball on Saturday but fell ill that night and was taken to hospital.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/09/burundi-president-dies-illness-suspected-coronavirus-pierre-nkurunziz

One wonders how many people have officially died of Covid-19 in Burundi?

The answer is one person – presumably the President.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/burundi/

Just a shocking reminder of the mendacity of MS press. The Guardian article, which mentions he was criticised for not taking measures, relays the figure of 5000 Africa-wide deaths from Covid (in a population of 1,350,942,917, not stated).

or maybe of something else?

So this leak. Reckon it was Hancock or Gove or one of the scientists, to bounce the PM into lockdown? Things have moved very quickly to it being an option, to being what’s happening. I can’t see the leak helping anti lockdowners, but maybe it does and came from one of them?
and doesn’t it have to go to parliament first?
anyway, Boris needs to go asap. 1922 need to move. This is terrible.

I reckon Gove, I think he’s more dangerous than Hancock.

Except that Hancock has close ties to Bill G and Nicole Junkermann, and I believe also to Schwab..

It’s a shame Sir Roger Moore is no longer with us. He could have donned his safari suit for one last mission, and taken out Schwab permanently.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

My reaction too.

come come mr schwab, you disappoint me…

Sean Connery died this morning.

Sad..

I just noticed! The greats are all going!

Including two of the people who could have assassinated Schwab.

Brilliant, Commander. Ll-Rex loved that.

He was 90!

That’s life. People die.

Don’t forget about Bill Gates!

yes, he was there on the podium with Schwab in 2017

The slimy Gove is definitely a snake.

Johnson cannot remain any longer he is a incompetent oaf and bullshitter

The whole government need to go and quickly.

My daughter ( at Uni) told me today that a girl in her accommodation block had an anxiety attack last night at the thought of being completely locked down ( effectively confined to her room) and they had to go into her room and remove all the knives as she was so distressed. I don’t think I can bear this inhumanity any more. Who or what is going to stop it. Lockdown has been proven not to work and causes terrible misery and damage.

Seriously, what is going to make this madness stop?

Maybe violence. I don’t advocate or practise it myself, but peaceful and democratic methods are getting nowhere.

Just wholesale civil disobedience.

Sign the peition asap: “Do not implement a second national lockdown or other restrictions this winter”

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/549862

If it does nothing else, it illustrates that the fake polls are total BS.

Sign and spread the word so we smash the 10000 in record time.

Already done. Am trying to spread the word. Got some vocal sceptics in the shop atm.

Totally pointless, but did it anyway

Nearing 5000 signatures. Needs more.

signed. all the same…to the streets. Lockdown is murder. And….we will be seeking financial ‘reparation’, for the still living!

i agree very very strongly, i’ve not been in agreement with the restrictions from the start, although i went through a few weeks of thinking maybe i was wrong ……….. and for the past month or more i’ve been in a place of we have to move into widespread civil disobedience our compliance is taken at some level to be agreement that keep the door open for more of the same and also the next step of authoritarian dictatorship i’ve listened to holocaust survivor saying compliance is what happened in germany, that action is necessary and necessary now

I’m beginning to believe this is the only way, kh1485, if there is one. Rational argument using facts is helping to weaponise (metaphorically) those of us who are sceptical. However, it’s patently not working to impact policy and government abuse of the population. This is very, very serious, depressing and, I believe, sinister.
i have never felt this way before.

Truly depressing how many folks have swallowed the lies and refuse to listen to reason. Likewise, I have never felt so worried about political actions in my 73 years

Down to your town/borough centre every weekend till the bastards are stopped! NOTHING else will do!

prosecution of those responsible for gross negligence manslaughter

not words i don’t think

‘Who or what is going to stop it?’ We, the people. We need to stop being afraid of consequences, grow some balls, come together and say ‘No More’! sadly, I cant see that happening yet, as generally, people can’t see further than their own circs. But that is the only thing that’s going to stop this madness.
There is a tiny 1% controlling this BS, as opposed to the billions of people on this planet.
I think I can see a Way Out of this!

Has she been offered support? Or did they just remove the knives and then leave her in her room alone? You are right, lockdown is utterly inhumane, the people running this show truly are the most revolting dregs of humanity.

The latter apparently.

Keep sharing the petition as widely as possible before Wed’s vote. It needs huge numbers so show that the people have had enough.

Just sent this to my MP Gareth Davies, won’t get a reply as not had one from my others.

I implore you as my Member off Parliament to stop this proposed national lockdown next week. This is utter folly. The NHS are not overwhelmed or will be by Covid19. The all cause deaths are below the 5 year average & have been since June. WHO declared earlier this month that the IFR is 0.13% & 0.09% for under 65’s. This is the same as influenza! Which we have magically eradicated. But only by grouping their numbers into the reducing Covid19 ones.
If you allow this lockdown to happen you will be held culpable, along with the vast majority of parliamentarians, of the destruction of our economy, our education & society as a whole.
We are a great nation but this government along with the opposition seem to be intent on destroying it.
If you do support this lockdown I suggest that you seriously consider your position for, as a lifelong Conservative & Unionist voter, I will never vote for the party again. I will do my utmost that you & any other candidate that vote for this madness will never be re -elected.

Implore – I used that word in my latest MP email a couple of days ago. Beseech is next.

HEY! Try ‘Demand’! Off the knees, folks. The data is in and the truth is out. Do not comply with these murderous edicts!

Let’s get this petition to 10,000 in record time.

Tell these b*****ds in parliament that enough is enough:

In case the link below doesn’t work, it’s called:
“Do not implement a second national lockdown or other restrictions this winter”
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/549862

It’s got to the stage where, given the choice, I would take the blue pill of blissful ignorance.

Reality has become unbearable. I don’t mean the truth. I mean the reality that has been created by SAGE and our criminal leaders.

No – never the blue pill.

Of course -we can not un-know what we know.

i really do understand !!!!!

The Blue Pill can fuck right off. Oh crap, didn’t think that through.

My next door neighbour is dyeing from a brain tumour. He has been going downhill for two years and his demise is now imminent. I watch in bemusement, not to say incredulity, as nursing carers and other medical staff are now visiting him on a daily basis. They arrive in separate cars (as nurses cannot travel in the same car—where did that come from?) park up outside my house and don all the gear as if they were going to perform major surgery.

The sad and unfortunate aspect to all of this is that my neighbour and his wife are completely taken over by the whole Covid nonsense and believe all the doom and gloom that the media throws at them. Sadly, for the last eight months they have absorbed it all…… as if dying from cancer wasn’t bad enough. I count myself as a good neighbour and have done everything I can for them since March but this week I’ve been asked to do something which goes against the grain. His wife asked if I would collect their paper from the nearby newsagents and pop it through the letterbox. ‘Of course I would’ I replied and I’ve been doing it all week.

In trying to be kind however, I have become a ‘super spreader’. Their newspaper of choice (and has been for years) is the ‘Guardian’ which is just about as poisonous a paper as you can get in promoting government Covid propaganda. I fervently believe that the ‘Government IS the virus and the media IS the spreader’ and the Guardian can safely be classified as a ‘super spreader’.

So here I am, popping through their letterbox every day, this vile paper, a purveyor of lies, distortion and Covid porn that only reinforces their fear and can only amplify the sheer misery of their last days together. It gives me no pleasure to post this despicable paper through their letterbox as it really is something I do under sufferance but what can I do? It’s a bit like the alcoholic who is beyond help asking me for a bottle of whisky—-I’m cruel if I give it and cruel if I don’t!

Can you not do a little leaflet with the true facts on and slip it inside the paper before delivering it?

Might make them stop and think.

They’re beyond reasoning—believe me, I’ve tried!

You are enabling this. If you insist on buying a newspaper, send through The Spectator or Mail – perhaps pick a random one a day.

Not possible. They have subscription vouchers for the Guardian so it’s that or nothing—-see my dilemma? Anyway, it’s not for me to tell them what to read. If I tried to do that I’m no better than the evil autocrats who are creating this chaos in the first place!

There is no saving some people; you did what is decent and there it stops.

Surely they know that the virus thrives on paper and so the paper will have been infected at all stages up to you pushing through the letterbox. Wouldn’t it be safer to tell them that you are no longer prepared to risk their health?

Good post, thank you. If only our leaders and the media could show the same degree of humanity as your post reveals!

It’s not going down well. Cabinet revolt, Conservative party revolt and the welsh hilariously are not going to extend their lockdown to fit with Boris’

Let the games begin.

Yesterday Drakeford said he would not be repeating local lockdowns ‘because they did not work well enough’
Instead he talks of a new set of rules for the whole country (Wales) that would be easy for everyone to understand.

What will that be I wonder. “Simon says, hold your breath.”
”And, breathe…”

I wish it was a game of Simon (Dolan) says – right as rain in no time!

Interesting, I will be surprised if Sturgeon falls into line in Scotland. Figures are pretty much flat here this week. Her utterly stupid and confusing new tier system is due to start tomorrow. As the only person in Scotland who understands it, I expect she has some level of investment in it and will look really stupid and incompetent if she gets bounced into lockdown by Johnson. Would go down really badly. If Johnson has to lockdown England alone, he will look extremely incompetent and it will make it harder to justify to public and his own party.

I’m liking the sound of this, so far!

Johnson is finished

Oh yes please.

Sweden: No masks and few restrictions: no hospital stress and no 2nd wave Covid deaths, despite a similar casedemic due to the fraudulent PCR test.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13046377/sweden-death-coronavirus-national-lockdown/
Conclusion: Masking KILLS your immune system and thereby KILLS people of Covid.
Same for lockdowns, obviously.

And: ICU’s not fuller than normal in Germany, incl. respiratory illnesses in total.
Just more people WITH Covid on ICUs- a car accident patient tested positive goes into the statistic as a Covid ICU case!
So, this is due to everyone there being tested, and due to those tests now looking for one part of the gene only (E gene) which is prevalent in the other corona viruses too, and omitting the confirmation phase, and taking the usual idiotic number of 45ct as per Drosten’s tests.
We are being taken for a gigantic ride.
Nothing more, nothing less or else.

https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Corona-Lockdown-Droht-tatsaechlich-eine-akute-nationale-Gesundheitsnotlage-4942433.html

I was buying fruit in the indoor market this morning and they had the radio on Smooth FM. I heard a news bulletin about a second lockdown, and later I looked at some newspaper headlines (including the Times) which confirm that it’s likely to happen. So it’s clear the government is now evil and/or insane. I’ll be writing to my MP to make that point and to say that it will probably be the last letter from me as I consider that representative democracy no longer exists.

In the street there were two guys handing out leaflets from a religious perspective, a bit cranky but on our side. I had a good chat and shook hands.

Whatever your leanings, that last joke is absolutely excellent.

Without modelling, a worst case scenario: we now have solid evidence that the IFR is between 0.15 and 0.55%. The lower value is influenza btw. If the entire population were to be infected, this would be 99-360k deaths over whatever period the infection were to run. 99k would be the worst influenza year since 1918. Even if it ran over two seasons (50k/year) it would still be terrible. The upper bound won’t happen because of interventions, in the meantime to control infection, seasonality and treatments.

Dr Yeadon still continues to confuse the presence of reactive T cells with sterile protection. It is possible to be protected from disease (COVID19) but still be infectious. Indeed that is by definition asymptomatic infection. The IFR calculation factors that into the equation.

More people are dying because of the measures than the fake plandemic … Bonkers Boris is a puppet for the EVIL BILL GATES …TRUMP 2020 to fight this insane madness… Nothing to do with health its about control ….

“ Even if it ran over two seasons (50k/year) it would still be terrible. “

Nowhere near as “terrible” as the harms caused by lockdowns. How can two bad winter deaths years even be compared to the deaths and misery currently being inflicted, the long term social and economic devastation?

That’s a different debate though. Two years combined into one and we would struggle to maintain healthcare. Four years in one go and we wouldn’t be having the debate, decisions would be obvious. I guess different people have different tolerances to acceptable. My comment really is that the numbers are now pretty nailed down. The “terrible” is in relation to normal years not a judgment on the situation per se, and that’s the best case not reasonable worst btw.

Agree that healthcare capacity may be an issue, but the govt and its scientists KNEW beyond reasonable doubt that the virus wasn’t going to disappear and that it might pose problems in winter. There were barely any cases/deaths over summer, they had all that time to prepare the health service and scale it up. Instead, they didn’t add a single bed over summer and just wasted billions on useless track and trace when the virus is already endemic. The NHS gets close to overwhelmed most winters so there is absolutely no way that SAGE could not have foreseen there being an potential issue this winter. It is not the public’s job to protect the NHS, it’s the govt’s.

And you 77th Brigade people still troll this site. I suppose that’a a compliment in a backhanded way.

S W E D E N

Forgive me, but you don’t sound like the brightest button in the box.

Same mendacious misrepresentation as the media and government.

First, your IFR is bogus.
Second, even if it were your calculation is bogus because assume every single person in Britain becomes infected, which is impossible.
Third, even if they did, it wouldn’t be the worst influenza year since the Spanish Flu proportional to the population.
Fourth, even if it were the worst year it would still be miles away from the Spanish Flu deaths which were many multiples worse than the next worse.

So basically everything you have written is complete bullshit, based on erroneous calculations based on a flawed starting assumption.

Like the government.

Happy to be corrected – what’s your best guess for IFR? Mine is based on the ONS prevalence and estimated infections/day, hospitalisations (1-3% of infections) and deaths (20% of admissions), corroborated by CDC estimates and bounded below by influenza. And yes, I believe every person is susceptible to infection, but not disease. Clearly pre-existing cross immunity may play some role in developing disease. But there is no evidence to support sterile immunity.

A: There’s no point in GUESSING a statistic. That’s how we got into this mess!
B: IFR depends on too many variables, especially the immune system health of each individual.
Like the R rate, it might work for mathematical models but bears little relation to what happens to real people in real life.

Enjoying a pint in spoons before anti lockdown rally in Brum.
Told the lovely station assistant why I was travelling :she was so delighted and had a long chat amplified by her speaker in the concourse!
Reliably informed 1 Covid patient in local hospital .
Agreed insane .
Spread the word everyone is pissed off with lies
Please stand up and be active in every way you can .

We are not dogs to be chained and muzzled,

Bugger, didn’t know there was a rally in Brum.

Victoria square 1.00 pm

Can’t do it now, sadly. Hope it’s a good turnout.

Hate what they did to New St Station in the rebuilding. Those sinister giant eyeball screens are used to show Covid messages! The old 60s style was tired but at least it reminded me of more optimistic times back then.

Sign the “Do not implement a second national lockdown or other restrictions this winter”petition asap:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/549862

Signed

Ditto, for all the good it will do.

I agree. But if we smash 10000 in record time it illustrates the strength of feeling the faked polls aren’t.

I hope you’re right. Not being defeatist, just have no faith in the people of this country who are so bloody blind to what is being done to them.

but it’s everywhere like that, it is sooo frustrating, it’s like talking to religious people when one tries.

Signed. Can you pin the post to the top for today if you can so everyone will see it no matter how they sort the comments?

Will do!

done

Signed.

Signed FWIW. Gone from under 1400 to over 1800 in the time it took to get my signature confirmed.
Those on Twitter/Facebook need to link it – you never know which straw will break the camel’s back.

Signed and shared

so sorry wanted to sign but only british can do so.

Sometimes I cheer myself up a little imaging that time when certain people are hung from a lamppost.

Sorry… It was wrong to say that… I should have said “hanged”.

If I could, I would buy you a drink for that

No leave it as hung. I’m not sure they qualify as people anymore…

Hanged first, then hung – as a reminder. Old school

Another masterpiece by Damien Hurst.

Ooh yes – throw a couple of sheep in there – very relevant!

‘Hanged’ is exactly correct in this situation. However…this time your error will go unpunished!

I found out last week my GP surgery stopped doing smear tests, to quote my GP ‘to protect the people who would perform them’ back in March. I am simply furious this has not got more attention. My town is in the middle of food and farming manufacturing and production. Have doctors and nurses stopped eating? No, but a large number of women they should be protecting by performing the smear tests are still working in food factories so they can eat. Utterly disgraceful.

Yes, I’m having trouble understanding why grocery store clerks, delivery people, farm workers, those on manufacturing lines, etc. are risking their lives (sarcasm) in order to perform their jobs, but health care practitioners whose job it is to TAKE CARE OF HEALTH are somehow immune from taking the same risks they signed up for and have been taking all their working lives. A bigger bunch of cowards I’ve never seen before. Dentists had to re-open since they can’t perform their jobs over Zoom, but doctors are getting paid the same consultation fee to work from home and are getting away with it. If our government told doctors they’d only make half as much for consulting via phone vs. in person, believe me they’d be back in their offices.

My OH is a treasure beyond price, but he’s also a wee, wee bit of a hypochondriac.Last week a mouth ulcer was hurting him and he got worried, wanted to see a doctor. Our medical centre is, of course, locked and bolted, but after unheard-of efforts he did get a phone consultation.
The phone doc to,pld him it sounded like blood poisoning and advised him to go to A and E.
After a shortish time (cause everybody else was protecting the NHS) he got to see a real doctor, who told him to go home and put some Bonjeela on the ulcer. He’s feeling a lot better now.
Farcical. But what if he’d really had blood poisoning and the phone doc had told him to put on some Bonjeela?

I hope you got chance to point that out to your GP?

In the real world I logged in to my computer and as a front line worker I was privileged to receive an update E mail from secondary care and the local PHE. The local DGH was on “high alert ” and we are being urged to find alternatives to admission . The number of Covid test + patients in the local hospital is in fact a small fraction of the ususal daily admissions . Most DGH hospitals have a daily medical intake of between 40 and 80 patients.

I would also add that a high percentage of the new covid19 + patients in the DGH had already been in hospital for at least a week and were found on retesting …nosocomial.

As for those with respiratory symptoms , we had a brief surge at the begining of October with people needing to be seen in the surgery ” hot clinic ” but this week it has been very quiet.

Meanwhile in Boris, Hancocks and Whitty ‘s imaginary world new terrors are being confected for the people of this land.

The hospitals are absolutely the prime source of cases. The Health Minister is Northern Ireland admitted their R0 black box of tricks showed exactly that yesterday:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54754772

“a written statement to the assembly, Mr Swann said the R number is now likely to be slightly below one for cases, about one for hospital admissions and above one for hospital inpatients.”

I have to say as a lockdown sceptic that I am pleased that there will likely be a lockdown.

How so?

Because I am opposed, not just to lockdown, but to all of the bullshit – masking, anti-social distancing – everything.

THe only way that the majority will wake up is to give them what they want good and hard, until such time as they have had enough.

Have we reached “the worse”, the better” stage now?

If so, things are going to get nasty (nastier, obviously).

No, in my opinion we have a way to go yet.

Nope. Look at the kind of opposition waiting to mop them up. Even beyond the Labour benches. They are all saying this can be fixed with a better track and trace system and enforcement of masks.

Utterly pathetic but the sheep will swallow that narrative and this goes on and on and on.

This only stops when PCR is in court and the fraud unravels.

Will they ever have enough though? Things have only been getting worse.

I have to say that I think by hitting the lockdown advocates where it hurts might wake them from their slumber.

When the food runs out, or in the zombies case, when the free money ends, then we can expect pitchforks.

We need to get more organised as a group. Involve all the other groups with common purpose. Show them that we are not going to follow their ridiculous rules. Have look at a recent video of students in Nottingham ignoring all the rules. Police powerless to stop them.

“The worse things are, the better.” (V.I Lenin)

Agreed – people accepted LD last time around because life was easy and the weather was extraordinarily good.
I told someone yesterday I was pleased to see the weather forecast was wet and windy – because people needed to be jolted out of their slumbers. What’s needed now is for TV to be taken off air – that’ll start a bit of dissent!

Especially if they’re having to get the news from a different source than the beeb!

Preferably without the sugar coating of magic money tree financial support too. I opposed the first lockdown from the first minute on watching Johnson’s ghastly speech on 23rd march as I knew it would spell economic disaster. Since then I have been persuaded by my partner to show compassion for the zealots as they are fearful and cowed. I have now lost my patience with them….there is massive data around now to reveal this shit show for what it is. I am no longer able to tolerate friends, family etc who support this tyranny…to me it now amounts to little more than collaboration with evil.

Much the same, here.

I so sympathise with this attitude. In addition, I am starting to have some fairly irrational feelings towards people I see wearing masks outside. Friday morning I was at the local sports field and a youngish man – couldn’t have been above 35 or so – running the track enmasked. There were 3 other people on the track. As he was coming up behind me, I was seriously tempted to yell at him that he richly deserved any and all further draconian measures taken against his liberty. He clearly was a danger to himself and others because of his inability to reason and weigh the risks inherent in life if he thought he needed to wear a mask outside on a running track with 4 other people.

I currently have a dusty carpet hanging over my washing line.

Can any of you beat that?

Aw, take him away!

Yeadon’s latest:

“I believe that Sage has been appallingly negligent and its incompetence has cost the lives of thousands of people from avoidable, non-coronavirus causes”

That to me sounds very much like gross negligence manslaughter

So how do we actually go about bringing them to justice?

I law suit against SAGE will be the only way to break this, the government will soon turn on them if this has any indication of going aginst the scientists. Arse covering all around will leave them all out to dry

Hmm, good idea – why has no one done this yet?

Financing it and finding someone or a group willing to do it that have enough knowledge. Perhaps we should do a lockdown sceptics one.

folks – it wouldn’t take an expensive lawsuit – we’re talking about a common law indictable offence here with a possible maximum sentence of life imprisonment, not a claim for damages or judicial review! the first step is a citizen’s arrest!!!

I can’t believe Dolan’s group haven’t considered this carefully. They have the legal and financial firepower, if it’s doable at all.

i wouldn’t be surprised at all if they haven’t considered it – sometimes you can be too clever for your own good/not see the wood for the trees..and no legal or financial firepower required – just a citizens’ arrest!

A citizen’s arrest is a good way to get a beating from the security forces or police, if you’re lucky.

What’s the point of “arresting” somebody if you can’t hold them or try them? The police and courts are not on our side in this.

Do barristers get paid for a citizen’s arrest?

I’m up for it!

Quicker: can we place/photoshop professor Pantsdown on Jeffrey Epstein’s island of youthful delights?

3 a.m. knock on the door, mayhap?

I know the answer to this is yes… but who else literally or inwardly screams when yet another Stay Safe propaganda advert comes on?

“I wear a face covering to protect strangers” [whiny voice]

Just F— the F— Off.

Has ever so much been spent on propaganda in peace time?

I absolutely hate that advert, makes me cringe and start shouting at the TV or car radio.

What advert?
I don’t watch tv. I don’t listen to radio.
Flashdrive with a load of music in the car.
Bliss!

Exactly right. I gave up the BBC and other fake news media shortly after 9/11.

The one with the overgrown teenager playing some computer game who says ‘Ah make space to protect mah nan’ really gets my goat – but fortunately I don’t have a telly so only see adverts rarely.

I just can’t watch any telly or listen to radio anymore. Podcasts, and on demand only. I just about manage to watch the on-track action on the F1 live, but non of the pre or post stuff due to the face nappies.

If you don’t like these adverts then watch a channel that doesn’t have any…….. oops that would be the Beeb!

For me that one requies instant mute otherwise (or even sometimes when done) bellowing follows quickly

Many new forms of Tourettes have been discovered in the last few months, t’is true!

I have face nappy tourettes now. They should do a channel five documentary on me.

This isn’t peace time. The government started a war on the people last March. This will be a fight to the finish.

Two articles which show a narrative that doesn’t add up, as we know. So the Government spent billions on PPE, much of it will never be used, from companies who bypassed normal procurement checks and sold over the odds to government

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8898907/Dossier-reveals-ministers-UNDERBOUGHT-threw-6-75billion-protective-clothing.html

That includes 30 Million hazmat suits. Of which 500,000 were used. They must have thought this really was the end. Let’s just give them the benefit of the doubt. 8 months on, will they admit now they panicked?

In this article they say that now they just wear masks and visors. No hazmat nonsense required.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/30/tsunami-preparing-winter-surge-of-covid-19-university-hospital-coventry?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

The Guardian going with their doublethink articles as usual, fear headline, everything is tickety boo in the detail.

Last few days I have not received the daily email update. Has anyone else had the same problem and found a solution? I have tried signing up again to receive the emails, but no positive result.

Check your Junk folder or equivalent depending on your email provider

DT twists President Trump’s words in today’s live blog:

“Trump falsely said doctors earn more money when their patients die of the disease, building on his past criticism of medical experts like Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top infectious diseases expert.”

The DT is trying to make it seem that Mr Trump is saying that doctors earn more when someone dies from covid-19 than when they live. Whereas, what he is saying, and what we know to be true, is that some hospitals and doctors earn more money when a patient has a covid diagnosis, than when the diagnosis is for another illness.

I heard that there is a covid patient payment

Point One:

Just think of those tens of millions without health insurance in the US, and all of those others strapped for cash to pay their deductibles.

Point Two:

covid treatment is free.

Point Three:

treatment for other diseases costs money

Point Four:

If a doc diagnoses another illness, the bill goes to the patient.

Point Five:

If a doc diagnoses covid, then the bill goes to the government.

————–

So, what do you think is going to happen?

..and that’s not including the premiums for covid treatment themselves.

There is!

I thought it was happening in just America but then I heard its happening here too!

Which is why someone who dies from a gunshot wound, road traffic accident, or alcohol poisoning are counted in with CV19 deaths…

Let’s pray Trump wins next week. If Biden wins, I don’t believe we’ll ever get out of this nightmare.

Without wanting to get too partisan, I can’t help but feel that this whole covid situation is a useful crisis for the ‘progressive’ left. They know that they will often find it very difficult to get any electoral success with their identity politics obsessed policies, so they achieve power by proxy instead through exerting their cultural influence on this situation (the long march has now achieved near total control of western institutions). They know they can change the course of government by exacerbating people’s fear and ignorance and playing up to all the “what about granny”, “lives before profit” nonsense that they are so adept at exploiting.

Mask wearing allows their virtue signalling, cult like followers, to easily identify and isolate anyone that isn’t in agreement with the ‘narrative’, a narrative incidentally which they have skilfully shaped from the very start. They have even claimed science as their own, brutally marginalising/cancelling any actual scientist that dares to challenge the official narrative.

Millions of job losses and economy that will likely never recover? The progressive left don’t care about that. They want capitalism to fall because they believe it’s a racist/patriarchal construct and they will be able to build a new post covid world according to their Marxist doctrine. Of course, they are just being used as useful idiots by globalists who no doubt will make more money for themselves in the long term, but they are far too indoctrinated to realise that at this point. Many of them in the UK will also see this as an opportunity to get revenge for Brexit and recent general election defeats.

Have the right behaved any better? Almost certainly not. I’ve seen some pretty nasty and xenophobic stuff written by the right throughout the last few months, which I want nothing to do with. This farce tends to bring the worst out in people (with the pleasant exception of majority people on this site I should add). However, it’s the progressive left that I believe are actively driving this situation on and it’s their control of the institutions which means I can’t see that there will be a way out of this for us in the short to medium term without blood being spilled.

Ive been saying that since March. If Trump wins the epdiemic will be over in days

I’m quite confident he will.

As indeed am I. My mate lives in the states and is confident of a landslide.

Nearly every day there emerges more evidence of Democrat postal fraud. I suspect they will contest for months if Trump wins in spite of their efforts to fix it for Biden…

The Dems appear far too laid back, in spite of the HUGE numbers turning up at Trump rallies – so what do they know?

They’ve already written the script that Trump is going to lose the election but ‘won’t go quietly’. They’ve primed the US population already.

I’m praying that Trump will win. However we must not underestimate the evil forces in America and here in the UK.

Only in America.
Of course, the Democrats might just double-down. They’re already supporting riots and violence across America. They might go for a full-blown civil war…

The democrats have already said they’ll draw out the election results till next summer.
Democrats?? Nothing democratic about them!

I realize Donald Trump isn’t everyone’s sup of tea.

..but it will be Trump or Biden.

If what is happening with Covid is important to you, then, yes, Trump is better.

Notice also, that the media which is most virulently anti-Trump is also the media which most strongly promotes Covid fear.

Biden has pretty much sold the USA to China – soooo much evidence out there, which HAS been verified, despite what the MSM is saying (when they comment at all)

So Trump HAS TO win…. in 4 years he can be voted out, but if Biden wins, then there may not ever be another vote..

There will be another vote, but after the Supreme Court has been expanded to 15 with Democrat judges, votes will be given to illegal aliens, D.C. and Puerto Rico will become two new states with guaranteed Democrat Senators….It’ll be a one party state.

Also note that the spike in cases and new lockdowns arrive just in time to shut everything down for the US elections. Already told people back in March/April that the next flu season would provide the ideal pretext to label evrything as Covid and go for another round of measures to coincide with the elections, and hey! what do you know…

Good analysis. There are echoes of the Remain/Leave dichotomy in all this as well.

I agree. The Shadow Education Secretary gave the game away when she said, ‘Don’t waste a good crisis’.

I have to agree. I can’t stand the man and he’s a danger as well, but people have vastly underestimated the danger of the progressive left. Their takeover of the universities is complete and their crazy ideology has infiltrated the corporations who are kowtowing to the woke nonsense. In the past, people would look benignly at university students and take comfort in the fact the “real” world would set them straight. Now, they are successfully re-shaping the real world to fit their ideology. Trump may be the only thing standing between life as we knew it and life as the WEF imagines it.

As Tony Benn used to say (and I am not on the Left),politics is not about personalities its about policies. On policy Biden would just mean more masking and more big government science and departure from normal life. Whatever one thinks about Trump as a person we have to hope he is victorious.

100% …I am enraged by the blatant hypocrisy of the majority of left ..they have completely betrayed workers and poor people for their beloved Covid ideology..not to mention the embracing of totalitarianism . I’ve been socially and economically far left leaning most of my life and I don’t know how these morons can look in the mirror .. I think they actually believe a socialist utopia will come from the ashes of this inhumane dumpster fire. When push comes to shove I know the side I will fight for is not theirs, this is so much bigger than ideology!!! If they don’t wake up, fuck them .

This weak PM influenced by and China and corrupt bent science is now the most hated man in Britain. Where is the opposition to this insanity !

Yep – I never thought that anyone could be more hated than Bliar!

We’re it.
Don’t give in.

I am not sure if anybody has noticed this recent government publication about the PCR tests (link at the end of this). It is quite technical and I am not an expert but have followed the expert discussions about this at Dr. Fuellmich’s corona enquiry in Germany, where they had a whole session of half a day about this. And, of course, there are the excellent papers from Dr. Yeadon.
Remember: these tests are what all governments are basing their lockdowns and all their other madness on.
The key passage to the government paper is copied below and I have highlighted the two main issues: the first one is clear (read it slowly!); the second one is telling, because any serious scientist will tell you that anything beyond 30 thermal cycles/amplifications does not qualify for anything. I think some well-respected laboratory in Frankfurt even said not more than 20 cycles (although I don’t have any evidence for this). As it says in the text below (last sentence) “the lower the Ct (cycle threshold) the higher the quantity of viral genetic material…” BUT it still does not show if a whole strand of the virus is present or if that virus is infectious. To diagnose infection it needs further tests, and above all, clinical confirmation (clinical symptoms).  It seems that for our government 40 amplifications are acceptable – because in that way you can produce tons of false positives and keep people in fear. Fraud!
Start of quote:
RT-PCR detects presence of viral genetic material in a sample but is not able to distinguish whether infectious virus is present. The quantity of intact virus in upper respiratory swabs will be affected by factors that are endogenous and exogenous to laboratory methods.
Laboratory exogenous factors:
1. The adequacy of sample collection.
2. The quantity of virus at the collection site.
3. The presence of inhibitors.
Laboratory endogenous factors:
1. The total volume of sample collection buffer/medium.
2. The sample preparation method (heat, lysis methods).
3. The laboratory reagent volumes used in each step of the RT-PCR process.
4. The RT-PCR assay of choice.
What is a Ct value?
The cycle threshold (Ct) can be defined as the thermal cycle number at which the fluorescent signal exceeds that of the background and thus passes the threshold for positivity (Figure 1, page 5).
A typical RT-PCR assay will have a maximum of 40 thermal cycles. The lower the Ct value the higher the quantity of viral genetic material in the sample (as an approximate proxy for viral load)
End of quote
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/cycle-threshold-ct-in-sars-cov-2-rt-pcr

This is an excellent and helpful paper. I would urge everyone to read it in full.

Thanks for this – I’m surprised the gov’t have allowed it into the public domain.

FYI, to my reading, this paper published 2020-10-24 indicates that a Ct of 32 should be the limit for detecting SARS-CoV-2:

“Of 234 samples collected, 228 (97%) were from the upper respiratory tract. SARS-CoV-2 was only successfully isolated from samples with Ctsample ≤32”

That whole paper is basically saying what the inventor of the PCR said. This was know in conspiracy land as soon as test test test took hold. And I have seen numerous example of censoring Mullis’ words about it from Google, Facebook and Twitter. It’s not ever been touched by mainstream media. Google it now, you’ll see only debunking or fact checker articles claiming he was misquoted or whatever. Then go to DuckDuckGo and you’ll find reference to it. Even video footage of him saying it.

And yet here we are. PHE have suddenly decided that the person who invented the thing was not lying. I’ve seen a lot of things be banished to conspiracy land but the PCR thing has been unbelievably blatant.

i think a lot of the people who are discarded into the bin called conspiracy theorist could more accurately be called lay investigative reporters many of the people i’ve been listening to have been putting out information that takes months to arrive to the ‘acceptable’ sources of information i see a similar thing in health arena where new research often takes 20 years to inform the doctors on the ground and their practice and of course much of the research is viewed with suspicion at the time it’s first published.

Great spot. Thanks.

NHS England specified up to 40 cycles in its ‘Guidance and standard operating procedure COVID-19 virus testing in NHS laboratories’ published 16 March so this crazy cycle threshold has been with us from the beginning:

‘Where Ct values are below an agreed value (based on analysis of proficiency testing performance and other local testing data) with satisfactory quality control parameters, including internal control performance, the result is considered valid and should be telephoned and a report issued as a final result. Any such positive result will be recorded as ‘confirmed’ for public health reporting purposes and will be notifiable under recent legislation. Results where: • the Ct value is ≥ 40 and/or • there is an abnormal assay curve and/or • the clinical context makes the positive result highly unexpected should be considered interim or held until reviewed by a laboratory clinician.’

https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2020/03/guidance-and-sop-covid-19-virus-testing-in-nhs-laboratories-v1.pdf

As usual, CEBM (Are you infectious…..05 Aug) clarify why using a high cycle threshold is incompetent

‘The figure below reported in Bullard shows how the probability of SARS-CoV-2 infectious virus is greater (the red bars) when the cycle threshold is lower (the blue line) ‘

This New Zealand Government evaluation of PCR tests gives an idea of the variety of tests and the variations in performance between them; confirmation, if confirmation were needed that the data provided is simply not accurate enough to justify draconian policies:

‘A recent laboratory study found that different COVID-19 testing kits correctly detected COVID-19 in samples more than 95% (and frequently 100%) of the time. When tests were done on samples without the virus, the tests correctly gave a negative result 96% of the time.’

‘But it is important to remember that tests don’t work as well in the real world. No viral test is 100% accurate. In real-world use, the viral test for COVID-19 is not 100% ‘sensitive’ (meaning able to correctly identify people with the disease all of the time). This means that if 100 people who have the disease are tested – some will have a negative result (i.e. a false negative result).

Reasons for a false negative test result could be because:

• the sample was taken at the wrong time (too early or too late)
• the swab did not pick up any pieces of the virus, or
• the sample of mucus (or liquid from the lungs) wasn’t big enough.’

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-health-advice-public/assessment-and-testing-covid-19/covid-19-test-results-and-their-accuracy

So ‘Reasonable Worst Case Scenario’ (ho ho!) 95% positive test accuracy and 96% negative result accuracy. We all know the implications of those numbers by now; we’re living it!

The data is junk

Lockdown 3.0 anyone? The mad scientists are already taking about it here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54661843

Utte4r shite

Awful reporting.

“Some scientists believe that to manage the virus, our way of life may need to change forever.”

We decide that. This is scientism, technocracy, whatever you want to call it. Your PhD does not decide anything.

Some scientists can say what they fucking well like, but I shall live my life as I choose.

there were those saing that right from the start before they could possibly know anything one of those was gates who has in total madness been treated like some health expert rather than a messianic man who has the money to exert control over whatever areas of global life he chooses. health is his target number 1

They can all F. O.!

Fuck sage Johnson do your self a favour fatass resign and leave politics permanently you are a disgrace

Its all Science Fiction

non-science fiction

Calling Mabel Cow

I’ve seen your web site – can you do Christmas cards? And, apologies if this has already been posted (it’s impossible to keep up to date here),

I appreciate it’s a very short practical time scale from here, but – an idea:

– Front of the card – an image:

A Christmas countryside view, a field.
3 sheep – baa, baa.  And then opposite them the other side of the field gate, 3 humans, wearing muzzles looking back at them – baa, baa.

– Inside the left of the card – narrative:

“With apologies to George Orwell

The creatures outside looked from man to sheep,
and from sheep to man,
and from man to sheep again;
but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
(or different?)

[ and yes the order is deliberate, we have become sheep ]

– Inside the right of the card

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Seasons Greetings to all
Heil Boris! [ or Heil Bazza or whatever ]

– Back of the card

Inspired by Bazza, Twazza (or Twatta?), Micksy and Dumsy
On behalf the National Socialist Conservative Wankers Party
[ OK, “Workers” if preferred, particularly for Aunt Mabel ]

Maybe there are far more creative themes / variations on that, but I would love to send something to people this Christmas that didn’t really pull any punches!  I can do something myself, on matt paper (Christmas card like) etc, but if someone did something (on a light commercial basis) that saved a bucket load of hours / lots of individuals reinventing wheels…

If you’re doing them, then I’ve got an order in.  But perhaps earlier rather than later, so I can also then sell the idea to others (to buy them as well)….

Thoughts, other ideas? And, if not, maybe others do this sort of stuff?

Great idea! I hadn’t thought of Christmas cards because (silly me) I hadn’t imagined that we’d still be neck-deep in the omnishambles at Christmas.

I’ll have a play and get back to you. I’ll publish the artwork so anyone can create their own cards, and I’ll have a look around for a decent on-demand publisher where I can post them.

“I hadn’t imagined that we’d still be neck-deep in the omnishambles at Christmas.”

Well, indeed..:)

Brilliant, looking forward to it!

16.00 broadcast from the blonde idiot

If he announces a lockdown… with no vote in Parliament – I would hope there will be swift consequences..

Do they already know the outcome of the Dolan appeal I wonder?

Due midweek apparently. Hoping and praying.

If the government thought they had lost, then they would not be planning a lockdown.
I rather suspect they have been told the outcome already, ie that Dolan has lost, so they are free to lock the country down again…

Sadly I think this is almost certain with Dolan v Crown. However, there are a lot of ongoing court cases and hopefully one will get through and set a precedent. Remember that Google’s attempt to take over copyright of every book ever published was only thwarted by a local district judge somewhere in upstate New York.

I wonder if he will wear a purple tie? and face paint or will he shine a torch under his chin….now children are you sitting comfortably…….

Hopefully by then I will be three sheets to the wind. Just waiting for some friends to arrive who are thoroughly pissed off too.

This whole farce has gone religiously medieval. Blind faith was totally accepted and to question the church was an act of heresy. Heretics were sort out, punished and executed because their heresy could bring down Gods wroth on the whole of humanity. I feel that the majority have blind faith and I/we are heretics for questioning the C19 faith.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a tv program about a heretic, infected with the killer disease and killing all the people in his town because of his lack of faith.

In the Middle Ages, blind faith was not totally accepted. Otherwise there would have been no heretics to persecute.

The Cathar heresy, in southern France, took twenty years to crush, using the full might of the French state, then the most powerful in Europe. And even then, the heresy didn’t just disappear.

It took a crusade to (attempt to) finish off the Hussites. Their English cousins, the Lollards, never were finished off. Their ideals fed directly into the Reformation.

Of course, it has to be admitted that medieval people were a lot more intelligent than modern ones. And they didn’t have the BBC, or Twitter.

Totally off topic and no apology. RIP Sir Sean Connery.

After Nobby ,now ‘Mr Bond’. I’m feeling old.

Me too.

Blew up all those meglomanics but ended up as one of Sturgeon’s biggest fans, ironically. Will dig out the Goldfinger DVD later anyway.

Presumably that will be covid claiming it’s highest profile victim then. He couldn’t possibly have died of anything else in 2020.

He died in the Bahamas so won’t affect UK figures! Unlike my friend’s wife who has died of Cancer but had Covid put on her death certificate.

It should be possible to contest that – but likely will be made very difficult. People need to publicise these lies as widely as possible..

I agree.

The Battle of the Bonds can now continue in heaven. RIP Sirs Sean and Roger.

that’s 700 new deaths from COVID then, according to Witty/Vallance; no wait, 007.

Its so f*ing obvious, has been from early March. We are where we are because ‘everyone has to have a vaccine’. And certain people will get filthy rich(er), and some will get to control the herd. Nothing has changed, everything is designed to promote this outcome. The only possible fly in the ointment is the ‘wrong’ election result in the US, but even this may well not be enough to derail this train.

Trump has trucks ready to go for mass vaccination. So while he is preferable to Biden, dark shadows remain in some corners

He’s also talking about medicines though… and I am not sure he would make vaccines mandatory..

He absolutely would not.

Do you have any tips for how to counter the inevitable “there’s a lag” objection every time you point out that everything is basically fine other than the government’s concocted “cases” measure or whatever’s popped out of their model this week?

Without fail, every time I point out how deaths are still normal for the time of year and hospitals aren’t crumbling, the response is “there’s a lag so deaths will go through the roof in a couple of weeks”.

Yet by the time a couple of weeks has gone by and everything remains fine, we’ll have been locked down again and they can claim that’s the reason why.

I have just one of those from someone who said come back in 4 weeks. Next week is 4 weeks and excess deaths remains within normal range. Of course, thats because of local lockdown, which of course, has nothing to do with cases baked in

Time for Cabinet Ministers to resign, ready to salvage something from the carnage at a later date. The fat weak minded idiot PM may as well put the two ronnies of doom in the Cabinet as it is they and their billionaire sponsored “science” that is calling the shots.

Witless, Unbalanced and Damnation. What useless specimens of the human race.

As a member of the human race I object to their inclusion in it, even as useless specimens.

If Sunak ever wants to be elected Tory leader now is the tune to resign. Otherwise he’s tarred with this

Well the manic, obsessive lunatics have really taken over the asylum, a quote from our local rag “”It’s not too late to save Christmas – but a national lockdown is now needed – advisers have reportedly told the Government.””

Here’s my reply….

What do you mean “Save Christmas”, I thought it was all about saving lives?

How about some real statistics, 2018 55,000 excess deaths from Flu. 2017 165,000 (450 a day) die of cancer. 2017 78,000 die from smoking. (the data is ONS and the latest available, there is no reason to suggest but the figures when available for 2020 will show a massive increase in these figures).

Today 2.5 million people are living with cancer and 26 men a day die of prostrate cancer.

In perspective I feel.

Yes – they’re REAL figures. The ones that are given out by our ”leaders” may not be genuine. How can we know? We DO know they’re not ”cases” but only false positives. But they could pluck any number out of the air, that just suits their purpose on that day.

The most depressing update for weeks. Trying to rebuild life and carry on as best as possible. I was feeling more optimistic this week and had some positives. It is an awful thought that they may put us through it again.

Perhaps if we hadn’t had the first lockdown, many of us who are not in high risk categories would have had the virus by now.
Obviously there will be an NHS winter crisis, the NHS frequently does over winter.

Pity they dismantled the Nightingales, then. They kept saying there’d be a ”second wave”, after all.
Professor Levitt said a couple of months back that the deaths would be back to normal in mid October. Dr Yeadon says that the October figures show a slight rise from the norm – and these include unexpected deaths of YOUNGER people from preventable causes – stroke, heart attack, suicide – ie a result of lockdown.
We know we’re being manipulated, cheated, insulted and coerced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

scroll down tha pages a bit and there’s a graph of overall deaths. Yes even on the BBC.

Not a lot going on there, so of course we must be locked down again

Earlier they dragged the Ferguson fuckwit out again. And Devi Sridar.

LOOK AT YOUR OWN GRAPHS YOU UTTER TROLLS

4pm news conference this is it. Full imprisonment.

Kirstie Allsopp on Twitter:

It’s pissing with rain, Sean Connery has died and at 4pm the PM is going to tell us all the shops & restaurants we want to go, people we want to see & activities we want to do are off limits. How’s your day going so far?

Laura Kuenssberg:

PM will appear alongside Prof Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance

How do the vaccine salesmen get so much airtime?

quick! just enough time to organise a sniper with 3 bullets…

Too quick and easy.

I’d take whatever to rid us of these monsters.

I was just thinking exactly the same.

You’d have to pay me real money to watch that one!

With Beelzebub joining the backing group.

And at the precise time that it’s announced “cases” in the UK have exceeded 1 million.

And we now know that these ”cases” are nearly all false positives, that hospital admissions and deaths are around normal for this time of year.
Anyway – we don’t know that these so-called ”case” figures are even genuine. Where are they finding these hundreds of thousands of people, or millions, to test? They could tell us anything and we’ve no way of checking.
”Just tell ’em it’s over a million, Chris – they’ll believe it coming from you. Got to act quickly though, so that it looks as though banging ’em up actually brought the figures down.”

Hello all, to express my revulsion at deep-dive into totalitarianism, I have taken the liberty of reappropriating the lyrics of a song by the anarcho-punk band crass.. hope you enjoy :
Banned from the Left-wing… O.K.
I never much liked playing there anyway.
They said they only wanted well behaved boys,
Do they think revolutions and resistance are just fucking toys?
Fuck ’em, I chosen to make my stand,
Against what I feel is wrong with this land.
They just sit there on their overfed furloughed arses,
Feeding off the sweat of less fortunate classes.
They keep their fucking power cause their finger’s on the button,
They’ve got control and won’t let it be forgotten.
The truth of their reality is at the wrong end of a gun,
The proof of that is Victoria, and that’s no fucking fun.
Seeing the elderly rotting in the care homes,
Seeing the masked school children playing in a chalk square.
Finding the entrance to your own front door is barred
And they’ve got the fucking nerve to call it protection.
Seems their protection is just the threat of strength,
Protection for the privileged at any length.
The government protecting their profits from the poor,
The rich and the fortunate chaining up the door.
Afraid that the people may ask for a little more
Than the shit they get. The shit they get.
The shit they get. The shit they get.
The shit they get. The shit they get.
The shit they get. The shit they get.
PROTECTION? SHIT, IT’S NOTHING LESS THEN WAR
AND NO ONE BUT THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK IT’S FOR.

Oh yes they say it’s quarantine , they say it’s decency,
Mai Lai, Rodrigo Duterte, know what I mean?
The same fucking lies with depressing frequency,
They say “We had to do it to keep our lives clean”
Well whose life? Whose fucking life?
Who the fuck are they talking to?
Whose life? Whose fucking life?
I tell you one thing, it ain’t me and you.
And their system, christ, they’re everywhere,
School, army, church, corporation deal.
A fucked up reality based on fear,
A fucking conspiracy to stop you feeling real.
Well ain’t got me, I’d say their fucking wrong,
I ain’t quite ready with my gun, but I’ve got my song…
Banned from the Left-wing, well O.K.
I never much liked playing there anyway.
GUNS.

I love CRASS.
Nice one.

First it was about saving lives. Now it’s about saving Christmas. I’m not looking forward to saving easter. Scam.

I suspect it may be partly to stop the ever-increasing number of court cases. Remember Michael O’Bernicia is planning to issue summonses to every MP at the beginning of next week (Monday was mentioned)…

I think they have been issued.

Hope so!

Fantastic. It’s about time our representatives are held to account.

Michael O’Bernicia explains:

https://twitter.com/jonkirbysthlm/status/1321799829656346625

That explains the lockdown – I’m guessing court cases needing a jury can’t go ahead during a lockdown??? If indeed *any* cases can be heard..

It didn’t save Easter this year, as the. churches grovelled and crawled.

Let’s hope that our politicians, particularly Hancock, haven’t been watching what is going g on in parts of Australia, where a fully fledged police state appears to have arrived.

It’s only about saving face.

And of course we had to “save the NHS” rather than its purpose, which was to save us. Instead, we seem to have arrived at backdoor euthanasia.

Daniel Invictus on twitter saying he understands we won’t be entering a lockdown (yet).

he’s been wrong before, but I imagine a stay at home message would have the 8pm ‘we interrupt this broadcast’ video, as well as announcement in parliament first.

either way, this all feels like terrorism to me. Terrifying people to get what you want. It cannot be allowed to stand.

Applying the Terrorism Act would be a novel approach, especially since it is indictable and hence subject to citizens arrest. From Wikipedia
Section 1. –
(1) In this Act “terrorism” means the use or threat of action where-
(a) the action falls within subsection (2),
(b) the use or threat is designed to influence the government [or an international governmental organisation] [3] or to intimidate the public or a section of the public , and
(c) the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political , religious[, racial] [4] or ideological cause .
(2) Action falls within this subsection if it-
(a) involves serious violence against a person,
(b) involves serious damage to property,
(c) endangers a person’s life, other than that of the person committing the action ,
(d) creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public , or
(e) is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system.
(3) The use or threat of action falling within subsection (2) which involves the use of firearms or explosives is terrorism whether or not subsection (1)(b) is satisfied.

so is gross negligence manslaughter – which seems much more applicable in all the circumstances…

I think Bozo knows that the leak has given time for anger to build, rather than his ‘instruction’ being a fait accompli on Monday. So he’s doing his press conference today to puncture that anger with a semi-lockdown that is, presumably less bad than many people feared. The real lockdown to follow in a week or two.

Quite possible… but doesn’t furlough end this week? I’m guessing lockdown is to prevent protests over that..

Do they want immediate lockdown in order to prevent people having time to empty the shops of supplies?

Hancock got told off by the Speaker for announcing measures publicly before presenting them to Parliament – seems like Boris hasn’t learned the lesson…

But if lockdown happens immediately then Parliament won’t be in session for the Speaker to say or do anything about it (probably the intention)

There is ZERO need to announce a lockdown today – nothing has changed since yesterday.
When they announced masks there was a time delay before the rule came in…despite the supposed urgency then!

Had a phone conversation with the ex husband earlier this morning. Highly intelligent, senior white collar position etc. Realises that lockdown is having a hugely damaging effect in terms of the economy, morale etc. But apparently it’s everyone’s fault for not ‘obeying the rules’. I pointed out that there was very high compliance earlier this year. ‘Yes’ he said ‘and it worked’. I pointed out that all it did was kick the can down the road, and did he really want to spend the next few years with severe restrictions. Apparently he’s quite happy with that because he’s 66 and his (diabetic, pretty unhealthy) sister died of Covid. Of course this is a shame. However we also have a twenty year old autistic (high functioning) son who’s life chances are already pretty shite.

Bottom line – apparently it’s all very well for these 20 and 30 year olds, but the old must be protected at their expense. I despair.

Here in Bournemouth we had, as was well publicised, vast numbers visiting us and occupying our beaches in vast numbers. Many would have been locals. But there was no spike.

That’s Covid for you – doesn’t like the seaside!

This is unbelievable. I cannot believe that this country is being ran by absolute cretins.

No, I don’t believe it either.

Because it isn’t true.

Of course not – the cretins couldn’t run a whelk stall!

Believe it!

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/crowd-up-50-kids-caught-4657451 so the illegal drinking is more acceptable than possibly having the virus. ( of course the fines for the virus are higher than for drinking)

This from the excellent Mike Yeadon.
https://threader.app/thread/1322423458882637825

This too with Mike Yeadon. Would that he were there in place of Wittery, et al.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y51GICqL9E

I don’t see how ending more businesses, ending more jobs, sinking the economy even further is going to save anything at all, let alone Christmas. Even Bob Cratchit had a better Christmas. At least he had a job. At this rate the average british Christmas is going to consist of people telling their children: “Sorry, but we couldn’t find anywhere to buy a Christmas tree, everywhere is close. And sorry but Santa couldn’t afford any presents this year either cause he’s been laid off.”
Thanks for saving Christmas, Boris.

Because it’s exactly about ending business and jobs. There is no pandemic. The medical emergency is a pretext for deliberate economic sabotage.

The Queen is at economic war with the British people

Sorry to say this, but the Queen is a hood ornament. She refuses to take a position. What good is a leader that does not lead?

The Queen is not a leader, just a figurehead and personification of the nation. That’s the nature of a constitutional monarchy at the end.

The good that She does (that the monarchy as an institution does), is primarily preventing scum like Blair or Johnson becoming formal Head of State. It’s not all that much, but it’s not nothing, either.

When you look at other heads of state, it’s a great deal more than nothing.

We could, after all, be in the Rep. of Ireland under the aegis of a Teashop.

Spot on. People who say we should abolish the Monarchy should contemplate ”President Tony Bliar” or ”President Richard Branson” or anyone else of that ilk, with money enough to buy their way up.

Just to be clear, i didn’t say monarchy should be abolished. In fact, i think it’s great that monarchy is kept. I’m conservative, so i appreciate that there is such a strong reminder for honor and tradition.
I was responding to the accusation that it is the Queen that is at economic war with the people, which i don’t believe to be true. Not only do i think she wouldn’t do such a thing, but i don’t think she could if she wanted to.

The thought of Prince Charles as monarch is scary too, given that he is all for the Great Reset…

Not very appealing, for sure, but not a huge problem either given the aforementioned lack of any real power.

But they don’t WANT to ”save anything”. That’s the point. It’s all working out just as planned.
Do you REALLY think that BJ gives a ….. about Christmas or people’s welfare generally, so long as he keeps plugging away at following the agenda?
I wonder when people are going to stop giving him the benefit of the doubt.

It is all part of the Great Reset. It’s very hard for the elites to impose socialism on the planet if capitalism is doing so well. This is part of the reason why Trump is so maligned by the media: not only is he a convinced capitalist, but he has implemented measures to reduce the size and control of government, leading to a year of unprecedented wealth increase in the middle class in 2019. Economies which are even remotely capitalist need to be brought down and crashed as hard as they can be, people need to end up in the streets, starving and freezing, so that the elites can then pretend that this fabricated crisis is the fault of capitalism and that socialism is the only way out.

And this isn’t about convincing the masses about adopting socialism. The herbivore masses already are in favour of it. This is about the pro free market people, the ones that still advocate for and implement a free market. The masses are for now willing to discuss with this minority, and at times they may even see reason. So this is about giving those herbivore masses enough despair and enough fear that they will stop discussing and they will become violent. This is about turning the people against themselves. Divide et impera. We’re seeing this in every aspect of society. Face mask rules meant to make people fear for their lives when they see someone with a mask, giving them a self-preserving reason to become violent. For, after all, beating someone is perfectly acceptable if your life is at risk, right? We see the same thing in the racial tensions in the US. People made to fear and be violent towards their peers, because that keeps them from being violent towards the puppet masters.

So markets will crash, and times will be hard, and everyone will have to sacrifice their freedom and their work in favour of the nanny state, because it is only the nanny state that keeps us safe. And we’ll all be too busy working to survive one day to the next to worry about going on vacation, or owning luxurious houses, and the elites will be free to go wherever they please and do whatever they please without the filth of the plebs polluting their eyes. For it is not money that they’re after. What use would someone like Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates have for money? It’s about control. It’s about never seeing a dirty working class pleb ever again in their lives.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mSwYs6zB6TI
Connecting the Dots: Why They’re Doing This (Dave Cullen)

Sources: https://computingforever.com/2020/10/27/connecting-the-dots-why-theyre-doing-this/
Sources:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/could-capitalism-need-some-marxism-to-survive-the-4th-industrial-revolution/

https://extra.ie/2020/10/25/news/irish-news/leo-varadkar-supermarkets-clothes-toys-level-5

https://ionainstitute.ie/clergy-who-hold-acts-of-public-worship-can-go-to-prison-under-new-covid-measures/

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54676457

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/could-capitalism-need-some-marxism-to-survive-the-4th-industrial-revolution/

https://www.weforum.org/press/2019/06/world-economic-forum-and-un-sign-strategic-partnership-framework/

https://youtu.be/C6SKGs8KMek

Usual swivel eyed bollocks and and barely anybody there. Sad really

The many Conservative MPs opposed to lockdown must make their voice heard today. I would hope that Sunak and others will resign if another national lockdown is imposed. It may be that Witless, Van-tam and the other statists who sit on SAGE will resign if they don’t get their way – let them.

Someone needs to stand up ! Sunak ? Resign and get out of this sh*tshow. This PM and Government are a disaster !

resignation is too easy a way out – they should be carted off in handcuffs!

Let’s not let the best be the enemy of the good here. If the government had been meaningfully conservative they would have sacked the lot of them right at the beginning, for failing to resist the panic away from the rational Swedish style response originally planned.

Resignations might not be as satisfying as proper punishment, but it would at least get them further away from the levers of power.

Handcuffs is too good for them. How about cuffs and chains?

Orange jump suits. And gimp masks, of course.

I think Rishi may indeed resign. He’s been juggling the plates but there’s a massive tax shit show coming. And there won’t be any businesses to pay it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgE0MMnR4nE

Barcelona protests

‘Experts’ are now saying, on the BBC of course, that we will be wearing ‘face coverings’ for the next five to ten years. For some people that will be the rest of their lives. And for what? Mediaeval superstition.
It might seem minor to some, and in comparison with the loss of a life or a business it is (although the mask nonsense is destroying small businesses) but, for me, that is the most offensive edict of all. I will not cover my face. I find the idea deeply, deeply sinister.
This needs to be stamped on, hard!

Happy to do any stamping required.

Why just for 5 or 10 years? What will change?

Nothing. It will be 5 years more in 10 years.

Nothing. It’ll be unacceptable not to wear a face mask by then.
A bit like some countries where women are required to cover their faces in public, and get physically attacked if they don’t.

WITH BLOODY GREAT BIG “HOB NAIL” BOOTS.
Younger sceptics; ask parents and grandparents

Those who ordered these mask edicts had no idea just how it would feeble whole societies. Sure, it was only meant to give people the fortitude to go out shopping, or to get on a bus.

I can judge well the impact it has had on public transport as I get on a bus near every day. It’s scarred off passenger. Why would you get on one if they are dangerous people have to wear a mask?

“Those who ordered these mask edicts had no idea just how it would feeble whole societies.”

Yes they did. And that’s why they did it.
That’s why they’ve also pushed the narrative that it’s about “respect and consideration of others” and not infection control.
I wonder when the environmental movement will start pushing back against the environmental pollution and damage to wildlife from all these unrecyclable, potentially contaminated face masks.
Probably about the time they decide that covering the landscape with non-recyclable, environmentally damaging, uneconomic wind turbines and solar panels, all made with highly toxic scarce materials….

Yes – ”contaminated”! If they were really effective, virus carrying, then there would be hazardous waste containers around for their disposal.

And of course, there aren’t any. We’re being made fools of and it won’t get better by itself.

it was only meant to give people the fortitude to go out shopping, or to get on a bus

That was pure propaganda. Masks are a tool of control and to keep people separate and fearful. The Government’s actions make it clear that it does not want to fortify anyone, quite the reverse. Round here, footfall in shops continues to be low and bus and train use is much lower than pre-March.

Masks also weaken your immune system and make you more susceptible to illness which you will spread around by constantly touching them and wearing them incorrectly.

It is all deliberate. Otherwise why would wearing them be mandated with ever-increasing fines for non-compliance?

BTW, p02099003’s comment is priceless, I’ve saved it for future use. MW

So that is no optional shopping, no pubs, no restaurants, no theatre, no cinema for me for the next 5-10 years then – deep joy. Also 5-10 years probably means forever. I mean what will change in the 5-10 years?

We may be getting close to the time when the living envy the dead.

The stamping will be a boot on a human face for ever.

Not my face it bloody won’t be.

Yes indeed, Ms Watson.
Have you signed the petition? https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331430
Toby mentions it every day, yet it is growing suspiciously slowly.
It won’t make any difference, of course, but it shows us we’re not alone.

Same here. I have never possessed one and never will.

Non-compliance for as long as it takes. Also please do yourself a favour and ignore the BBC’s fear-porn. (It may be true that some people will never be able to get rid of their masks but we don’t have to take any notice of them.)

We saw a couple of highly educated acquaintances yesterday. They clearly get all their information from MSM. Our guess is Grauniad and BBC.

They believe the lot. The lot. The best bit was watching both their jaws hit the floor when we told them we had never worn masks and would never do so!

Anyway, they both seemed to be listening as we intoned the Sceptic Litany. Who knows if they’ll bother to poke around under the propaganda? It’s not as if people are dropping dead in the street around here and nobody has actually had the Black Death since March. The three we know of recovered. MW

I hadn’t heard that edict yet myself – this is by far the most appalling outrageous and destructive thing that could happen. I feel ill just reading your post CW

Things will get a lot worse than that and all the more so for those deluded individuals, who line up for Gates’s terminator vaccines

Just watched two people walk past my window wearing masks. Outdoors. What the actual f***? People are so damn brainwashed. Masks cause so much more damage than that bloody virus!

Absolutely, was in Kidderminster this morning, P××sing down with rain and bitterly cold; saw a bloke wearing just jeans and a tee shirt, but he was perfectly alright because he was wearing a rain sodden face nappy.

I ventured into the city centre yesterday (Belfast) and could not believe the amount of people wearing masks outside. I made my trip very brief.

Mask wearers outside – they look like non-people. Forgive me if I never extend to them the common courtesy of a smile a “hello” or an “after you”… Mind you never really venture near the high street much these days because of these zombies, but when I do I just say to myself “out of my way” should a masked up BBC News watcher approach. Not the person I used to be – and I hate it. What have they done to society?

Maybe we should start swerving away from anyone wearing a mask, to make a point…whilst actively looking away from them….?

Not many masks outside of shops here, and only the occasional masked car driver.

Had an entertaining day yesterday. Traffic ground to a halt where the main road ran through a village. The reason was a pair of ducks copulating in the middle of the street. A woman got out of a camper van and chased them up a drive into someone’s garden. She was wearing a floral mask. So was the camper van driver and all the passengers. It looked like an explosion in a garden centre.

It’s not your fault, so don’t be so harsh on yourself.

Who do they think the masks protect?
The wearer or everyone else?
This is where the logic of universal mask wearing falls down.
Masks protect other people from the wearer.
Implicit to this is that the wearer is infectious but doesn’t realise it.
As everyone is wearing masks to protect others (as suggested on the government advert), then that implies everyone is infected.
Therefore universal mask wearing is pointless as everyone is infected and potentially infectious.
If everyone is infected then we have community immunity and future lockdowns are an unnecessary evil. Also vaccination is not required.

You have managed to put this into words so logically!
Thank you!

I walked to the end of my garden path a couple of days ago, opened the gate and saw a woman walking towards me with a face mask on. On observing my approach, she stepped into the road, and walked around two parked cars before returning to the pavement, confident only then that I wasn’t going infect her with something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILjamFF2cuc

Protests in Florence

Reasons to be anxious: 1: Received notification of my NHS bowel cancer test kit, always relieved to receive negative result.
2:Teenage cancer ( 2 teenage granddaughters)
3:Death by road accident (see above) plus other people in family.
4:Dementia.
5:Other illness and disease related to old age ( wife and myself almost 72)
No 999: Covid virus.

Somewhere in my top 10 I would put “Global medico fascism for the rest of my life, which will ruin my children’s lives”

I am expecting my bowel cancer kit any day, and am wondering whether there’s any point in bothering.

I never bothered with them. They put the wrong return address on, surely it should be 10 Downing Street

In Germany, cancer screening from a young age for both sexes is widespread.
When I asked my friend who is in his 70s if his GP had ever done prostate exam, he said no. My father in Germany has one at least once a year and has had one since his 50’s.
The mind boggles how the NHS is dismissing pro active prostate screening.

If you are concerned about prostate cancer you only have to ask your GP for a PSA test. Its not rocket science

PSA test misses 15% of cancers.

No. 666, surely.

Good point.

Was talking to a friend thus morning, deep in Gulag Wales.
He was serving in the West German forces watching the border with East Germany not long before the wall came down. He could sense the collapse building up.
He says he can sense the same thing now. He gets to talk to a lot of people.

Yes – my feeling too.

covid-19 is an attempt to save the system, by those that run it – and save themselves too of course.

Honecker, Ceaucescu and the rest of them, must be kicking themselves in their grves, that they never thought of declaring a pandemic.

Communist European countries were already under epidemic circumstances, until they woke up and realised there is no virus.

The forces watching the border were BAOR and US in south. BRD was Dad’s Army at best. I met Prinz Ernst August (the heir at the time and the local BRD commander, father of the current one) at our house at a party after a combined exercise. My father was responsible for communications over on a large part of the front. He told us that the plan was based on holding back the USSR for 4 days for negotiations before we had to ‘go nuclear’.

I have to say this because it really annoys me (though it’s off subject): I find it quite amazingly ignorant that people use the phrase ”Dad’s Army” to denigrate any organisation.

This ”Dad’s Army” in the last German war was made up of men who had day jobs yet were ready to train and put their lives on the line to defend our country to the last man. (Not run away to find a better life somewhere.) And THIS when it was believed that the Germans were going to invade – not IF but WHEN. They were brave, committed and determined – and obviously still unrecognised.

Find another phrase with which to insult, rather than show disrespect to people who were a damn sight braver than most of us here.

Capt. Mainwearing would agree..

(Based on nothing at all) I thought it was more like a 4 hour window ?

Madness then and madness now.

Well, East Germany was on the brink of an economic collapse, I guess Britain is in the same situation, but it has no West Germany with a finance package.
Brexiters made sure of that.

Oh, so you think that the EU comprising 27 countries all with their own problems would rush to help us. Really?

Brexit is nothing to do with this.

Given that the EU doesn’t create it’s own money and relies on net contributers instead, if not for Brexiters, we’d be paying for bailing out the others. No thanks.

Brexit is simply a straw man. We now have much bigger fish to fry.

Press conference today at 4 apparently

Will be avoiding that – can’t bear to watch any of them – cringe levels off the scale.

Now well after 6 and still hasn’t happened. They just had Ferguson on again, and Devi Sridar again. She’s quite cute.Well I would, she just wouldn’t like where. Now believe it or not it’s Sunetra Gupta. Quite unbelievable

How’s your controlled opposition anti-lockdown corporate fringe and alternative media doing leading you out of lockdown, folks?

Action to end the interminable unlawful lockdown


No-one is controlling me thank you very much. I can’t speak for others but they don’t sound like easily controlled types.

If you want to make a case for how we are “controlled” and propose alternatives, please go ahead. I am not sure what “corporate fringe” and “alternative media” mean in this context because I am just an ordinary person, so you’ll need to spell it out for me.

You mean, the allowed opposition that acts as a safety valve for the population that doesn’t believe the government-approved B.S.?
Depends on how much influence they have in the MSM and how many people they persuade that this is all complete Bllx.
And it’ll also depend on the results of the U.S. election, when the gloves come off, from either side.
If the US Republican politicians are still in a majority and discover they have some balls, maybe they’ll finally sort out the social media giants who are busily censoring the conservative and anti-lockdown side.

Margaret Thatcher, we need her now more than ever. With her intelligence and her ability to get to the nub of the problem and of course her courage, she would have interviewed Witless and Unbalanced and, always assuming that they impressed her, she would have insisted that they consult the likes Henegan, Sikora and Gupta etal. Guaranteed that she would have borne past pandemics in mind and have balanced this current virus against non Covid deaths and the economy.

The current pygmy crew with pygmy minds have no focus.

I hated Thatcher with a vengeance and still hate her but I agree with every word you have said.
Alternatively, a second Oliver Cromwell.

Seconded

Thanks.

I too hated Thatcher at the time.
But I’ve changed my mind about her since then.

A lot of us (me included) have changed their minds about pretty much everyone

We’ ve already got one. Or is it Oliver Hardy?

Thatcher? That’s your solution to this. Dear God.

And your solution is….?

This is a crisis of government and the machinery that it is built on. Totally captured by narrow interests. You are basically hoping for the Strongman (or woman) to give you something to rally to, and you have named them Thatcher. Some are naming it Trump.

We are not solving this by some nostalgic belief that it was all better under Thatcher or that somehow she’d see through all of this. The truth is, to be in power today she would have had to grow up through the existing machinery and would not be the person you remember her as. She’d be captured too. This system is truly broken and is the reason why calls for Sunak to take over are equally misplaced.

They are captured. And pressing their own agenda.

I doubt anyone ‘interviewed’ Wittery and sidekick. They’d have been appointed by the Masters on previous form, no doubt, and their ability to follow orders and stick to an agenda while keeping a straight face. And BJ is just a useful idiot.

But given she’s dead, what’ll we do instead.

Necromancy

Pray?

MT was prone to worshipping science…led her to believe the nuclear industry’s lies about how cheap nuclear energy was, when it was twice the cost of gas. She was to the fore on ozone depletion (rightly I think) but the then was an early adopter on climate change.

In terms our current situation it is fair I believe to assume that her scientific background, her intelligence and her no nonsense attitude would have equipped her to deal with our current problems. Was she perfect? No, but then neither was Churchill, but he got us out of a mess.

I see it mentioned recently but why arent there more people coming out about falsified death certificates? I’m guessing it’s because the media arent willing to give them a platform? If we had a lot of them publicly speaking out it with proof then there would be more sceptics. How can people not see we are being lied to?

Because it’s difficult to provide in retrospect that someone didn’t die of CV19.
Unless they were killed in a road traffic accident, or similar. It’s knowing where to go to complain where you’d be heard and believed against the opinion of a medical doctor who completed and signed the death certificate.

Coroners office?
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/death-and-wills/what-to-do-after-a-death/

From January 23rd 2020:

“Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel hat in ihrer Rede beim Weltwirtschaftsforum in Davos „Transformationen von gigantischem, historischem Ausmaß“ angekündigt. „Die gesamte Art des Wirtschaftens und des Lebens, wie wir es uns angewöhnt haben, werden wir in den nächsten 30 Jahren verlassen“,

https://www.welt.de/politik/article205283507/Merkel-in-Davos-Gesamte-Art-des-Lebens-in-naechsten-30-Jahren-verlassen.html

Chancellor Angela Merkel, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, has forecast a gigantic, historical transformation. ” The totality of our economy, and the whole way in which we live, will change completely in the next 30 years”

That is a mistranslation. What she says is, “Over the next thirty years, we will abandon the entire way of doing business and living to which we have accustomed ourselves.” It’s an active statement not a passive observation, and in “angewöhnen” it expresses the idea that the current way is something habituated that needs to be rethought.

ausgezeichnet!

Herzlichen Dank

Agreed!

Goodness, there are some impressive dudes on this site.

She should have added ”If I’ve got anything to do with it….”

Did she say why?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/0/could-bats-save-us-covid-19/ Batshit crazy for sure

Good NEWS… At least is not from heating bats!

These governments know full well that “Covid” is being used as cover for crashing the economies in the Western world. There is not now and never has been a “pandemic”- that is all Kabuki theater to disguise the reality of rapid economic decline brought on by the Ponzi Schemes of financial institutions over the past few decades.

The US (and much of the Western world) is in economic free fall. This was occurring long before Covid Mania was engineered but now it is moving with much greater velocity.

The collapse started in 2008 and attempts to salvage this Leviathan have been failures only delaying the inevitable. Fast forward to 2019 and the crisis began to unravel again.

There was a dramatic decrease in industrial production and then showed up in the banking crisis of August of 2019- the so-called Repo crisis when suddenly banks started to refuse US sovereign debt instruments as collateral of overnight loans forcing the
Federal Reserve to step in and basically print money to cover this massive shortage.

So by the time the “Corona virus” appeared the economy of the United States and many other Western countries were in full blown collapse.

The “Corona Virus” has proven to be very useful (poetically and coincidentally showed up just in time) by political leaders to mask (metaphor and reality) what was and is going on in the “real world” of the financial trenches. The economic destruction that it is being blamed for this is absolutely extraordinary.

We are suppose to pretend that it’s not economic policy decisions made through the years by financial parasites (who are now here to save and “reset” us) that are destroying our lives but some alien virus. It’s all lies.

From Corey Morningstar:

The devolving of physical relationships and whole societies, up against an accelerating, digitalized, virtual world is not a social dilemma. The leveraging of COVID-19, waged as a weapon against the citizenry, is not a social dilemma. Rather, this is the strategic destruction of the social. A social dismantling. A social deliquesce. A social nightmare.

 For the Fourth Industrial Revolution to take hold, our global society must be socially engineered to accept, even prefer an artificial existence over that of a physical one. The saturation of the collective psyche with language and framing such as “tech for good” is strategic, a key method and means of obtaining the social license required for the Fourth Industrial Revolution “great reset.” The “watch dogs” put forward as reassurance to assuage a growing anxiety, thus a growing threat of backlash, serve not society, but the hand that feeds.

Physical is dangerous, digital is safe. Humans are lethal, technology is benign. Masks assist in dehumanising the human body. The conditioning for avoidance of human intimacy. Children learning not to touch. Nature is both separate and zoonotic – stay home, stay safe. Our deteriorating social fabric, already eroded from social media, and technology at large, has been doused with gasoline. It burns in silence behind a veil of willful blindness. Both isolated and detached from the physical presence of one another, and nature herself, we are in freefall. Remains of relationships in piles of invisible ashes.

I am convinced that this agenda will ail, because those planning it do not understand us.

I think that the WEF etc are trying to piggyback this agenda on an attempt to either save the current financial system or construct a new one under their control.

I think they understand quite well that the majority of the population are easily manipulated.

Judging by the recent poll that has 51% of the U.S. population believing that the verifiable and provable allegations against Joe Biden and his family is “Russian disinformation,” as endlessly told them by a partisan and heavily biased media, you’re probably correct, but it’s a slim majority. The other half no longer believes anything the MSM or government tells them.

Presumably another CNN poll…

We all know that the ”figures” are questionable anyway, as well as knowing that this is not a deadly plague.
And with hospital admissions and deaths inconveniently falling they had to do something quickly so that they could say ”Look, everyone, the number of ”cases” have fallen and that was because we banged you up”.

Great article – can someone get it to Simon Dolan? Am sure he would tweet it…

https://m.facebook.com/Tke.Media/videos/638376493507289/

Link doesn’t work?

Anyone else unsure if they can manage another Lockdown?
Considering this is completely unrelated to the virus (in terms of virulence etc) I can’t see how this is ever going to end.
I know people say cheer up, but it’s kinda hard when you’re applying for jobs and there appears to be no worthwhile future ahead.

Are you young by any chance? (Noticed your username and the fact you’re applying for jobs)

There is a worthwhile future ahead. If you are young, you have your whole life ahead of you and there could be historical events in the future that dwarf this in terms of significance that could prove to be hugely beneficial. Lots will happen in your life.

I am an optimist and I like to think that people’s natural humanity will come through in the end. Even just getting your head out of the internet and MSM doom-mongering, there’s humanity all around. People out and about, going to cafés, children playing in playgrounds, couples and families meeting and celebrating milestones as best as they can. There are indeed some very sinister people who are using this crisis to further their own agendas but because they are psychopaths, they are incapable of realising how strong human impulses actually are. A lot of what is happening is attempting to suppress those impulses but I refuse to believe that 8 months of restrictions will reprogram millions of years of evolution and biology. It just won’t happen. As someone said on here, less than 1% of the people on earth are controlling this and they are up against BILLIONS.

It may be a hard road to a better future but you will be able to tell your children that you fought for what was right.

that was the most wonderful comment I’ve read on here, after reading hundreds. Thanks a lot. Furthermore I agree with you totally, because being fatalistic is like giving up. People on the internet are far more pessimistic then those you see when you go outside. Last week a video was posted about a bus driver in a town in Germany. He asked everybody who got on the bus to take of the mask, as he explained he does not like them, finds them submissive. Everybody took the mask off and mostly with a big smile and nodding.
So in the comments section everybody agreed that we should do the same.

There has been one progress concerning the mask. Bearing the mask is not a LAW, but a recommendation by our gvts over the heads of parlament. So people had the choice when going shopping to say because of health reason, they can’t wear them. Of course there were those zealous staff instisting that they should be worn inside the store. One clever guy wrote to the HQ of all the big supermarkets, hardware stores and the like, explaining what was happening in their stores. All of them certified, that their staff would be instructed not to bother customers when they say that for health reasons couldn’t wear a mask. And because of the EU guidelines of the protection of data privacy they did not have the right to ask or look at a medical certificate.

That is the hook everybody anywhere should work on or with. Instead of crying here on the internet which is unproductive, why not do the same in the UK? Because the mask is the key! I’ve printed many copies of the letters by the HQ of big supermarkets with which I went in front of some of them. I’ve asked especially young people if they comply with wearing a mask and many of them said no. I then explained and gave them a copy of that letter. And as humans are gregarious animals many might follow. Someone has to start that’s all.

A carer friend pm’d me this, these poor old people. If I were in a home and confined to a small room for 14 days, I would go stir crazy. I would rather be dead than end up like that, so would take my chances with Covid. A life of imprisonment is no life, barely even an existence. I would have no hesitation to end my life rather than live in prison.

‘Heather, I don’t want to write this on your group, but the local authority care home that I work at, after a staff member tested positive with 2 consecutive tests last week, so had to have all of our residents tested on thursday. Whilst I was at work last night, public health wales phoned and spoke to our manager. Several of our residents have tested positive for covid. NONE have symptoms, all are well. We are now in lockdown, all inside and outside AND window visits cancelled, ALL residents confined to their rooms for the next 14 days. The ones who tested positive have been told that they have covid, their families have been told they have covid, families are scared and upset, the residents who are positive probably now think they are going to die, so that fear in itself might cause them to become ill. Locking the residents up for 14 days will have huge detrimental impact on their well being. Im so angry.

Might be worth sending to Allison Pearson (DT) or Anna Brees. AP did a good video about elderly people in lockdown

We already know the politicians who are destroying society but it is time also to seek and out every member of this sinister Sage Group. Many are already out in the open as they just love spouting their rubbish daily on the bbc and fake media. People need to understand that these so called “experts” have 100% guaranteed salaries and many have massive $$$ back handers from the usual suspects. After WW2, many top rank Nazi`s had to flee to Argentina, we need NOW to be compiling who these scumbags within are -ready to be put in front of the people, the very people whose livelihoods now have been ruined and freedoms destroyed.

I daresay they had to declare conflicts of interest before they were appointed…. or did they?
Perhaps that’s why they were so secretive at the beginning – giving them time to get their dodgy ducks in a row.
We all know one of them at least has shares in a company that could gain by prolonging this ”emergency” till the poison – sorry – vaccine is produced.

Don’t know why journos aren’t doorstepping these fuckers

agreed 100% – but why not throw in a citizen’s arrest for gross negligence manslaughter, instead of just compiling a list?

Boris Johnson is expected to announce a new national lockdown next week after scientists warned COVID-19 was spreading faster than their worst predictions.

THE WONDERFUL EFFECT OF MASSIVE INFLUENZA VACCINATION!

research shows flu vaccine leads to 35% greater chance of contracting coronavirus (any coronavirus)

And that is OLD research… Even the US military has that data since the 60’s 70’s

If BJ actually BELIEVES this tripe he’s being fed, then he really is not the person we took him for. Perhaps having a classical education doesn’t equip one for the Real World. It’s probably made him in awe of anyone who styles themselves ”a scientist” so that he actually can’t sort the sheep from the goats and realise there are degrees of competence, even in the scientific community.

What an ignorant, arrogant, damaging twerp he’s turned out to be.

He’s always been full of shit. The man wrote two statements on Brexit and picked a side by tossing a coin.

AND actually pledged on the website standup4brexit.com to ”abandon May’s WA as dead”.
You’d have thought his classical education would have suggested nuances of the word ”pledge”, wouldn’t you?

i’m a leftie who’s discovered the limits of ideology during this 6 months. i must say though that i could never understand why anyone would even buy a second hand car from bj

Was this speech by BJ, from Sept 2019, made public at the time?

https://www.wired.com/beyond-the-beyond/2019/09/transcript-boris-johnsons-remarks-un-general-assembly/

I think it must have been kept quiet, because otherwise I doubt he would have won the election…

I remember seeing a bit of that speech satirised on the Room Next Door.
Personally, can’t see anyone having paid any attention then, as they don’t now.

PTSD? Long Covid brain fog? Bipolar illness inherited from his mother?

Or just craven political
cowardice similar to 1930s appeasement or Cameron’s craven surrender to PC ideology?

Or just a useful idiot? But whose?

Who exactly funds the World Economic Forum? Does anyone know

Is it that Schwab guy?

He heads it. Doesn’t fund it.

Big companies like Goldman Sachs. And rich individuals e.g. Gates. Anyone who pays to attend…

https://www.weforum.org/about/our-partners .

Sauron? Sorry – Soros?

Yes. He’s a member.

Probably Bill Gates!

Boris never had covid. Look at the video again. I shook hands with lots of people with corona. Why tell us that? It’s bad acting. Setting us up.. Honk honk.

He’s just a chump. A 6th former mind.. a man who cheats on women past the age where that is forgiveable.. a posh rich boy in an oaf’s body. With a posho green XR supporting girlfriend (who works for a Rockerfeller organisation) old enough to be his daughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3NAx3tsy-k

That’s really pushed the whole conversation forward.

Yes and Boris’s NZ nurse was a secret service agent sent by Jacinda…and the Kiwis who spoke to the media claiming to know her were all paid shills…

That’s the problem with daft conspiracy theories. Pretty soon you’ve got tens of thousands of people inolved in your conspiracy.

Definitely the latter. If we go into another lockdown Sunak needs to resign- otherwise he’ll be tarred with this whole disaster and never be elected Tory leader

Boris ‘panics and U-turns’

Just like:

Merkel ‘panicked and U-turned’

Macron ‘panicked and U-turned’

Sanchez ‘panicked and U-turned’

Conte ‘panicked and U-turned’

……….

You get the idea.

That’s how panic works

It’s also how weak scum like politicians work – so long as “everyone else” is doing it, they think they can’t be blamed for any consequences. Safety in numbers.

I see, so when an army from one country invades anther country it isn’t that that they are following a concerted plan, but rather they are all fleeing from a mirage that all of them think they can see behind them.

That is pretty much what kicked off the First World War, in a nutshell…..

Now we know that another World War could easily happen again, such is the incompetence of the various national leaderships, government bureaucracies, on display

In the First World War the armies were all following plans decided years before. Most notably the Sclieffen Plan in Germany.

In order to decide whether an individual or an organisation is incompetent or not, you must first know the goals they are seeking to achieve,

Simplistic reading of the first workd war.It was caused by the rise of Germany which upset the balance of power.Germany wanted an empire in the east at the expense of Russia.Russia aligned with France.The assassination of Frank Ferdinand was the trigger but it would have happened anyway.
We joined in a vain attempt to defeat Germany and maintain our position as world number 1.
Strip away the different ideologies and World War 2 was just a continuation of the first.
If you supplement China for Germany and U.S.A for UK we are in a similar situation now.The global hegemon is threatened by a rising power.

Railway Timetables.
“AJP TAYLOR’S Railway Timetables Theory (as the starting point of WW1)
All the mobilization plans had been timed to the minute, months or even years before and they could not be changed. Modification in one direction would ruin them in every other direction. Any attempt for instance by the Austrians to mobilize against Serbia would mean that they could not then mobilize against Russian because two lots of trains would be running against each other. The same problem was to arise later for the Russians and in the end for the Germans who, having a plan to mobilize against France, could not switch round and mobilize again against Russia. Any alteration in the mobilization plan meant not a delay for 24 hours but for at least six months before the next lot of timetables were ready.”
http://www.ae.metu.edu.tr/~evren/history/texts/taylor1.htm

Your point doesn’t seem relevant to our exchange. Armies are not politicians and do not behave similarly, in any relevant aspect..

You painted politicians as group, with the panic of the individuals concerned as mutually reinforcing.

I drew the analogy of an army at an international border.
My implication is that politicians are acting in concert – like the soldiers of the army.

OK, but all that does is return us to where we began. Two theoretical possibilities that could explain the observed behaviour.

Personally the idea of spreading panic and herd behaviour is a lot more plausible to me than a hypothesis of Johnson, Macron, Merkel et al all being part of an organised and disciplined command structure of some kind.

No panic. All part of the plan. Pure theatre. New words need to be made to describe my contempt and hatred for them.

Only that lockdown is the only tool in their box.

https://www.redditchadvertiser.co.uk/news/18833622.covid-marshals-set-take-streets-redditch/

Businesses are closing down, families are struggling to feed their children, the elderly are kept prisoner in care homes (while BBC actors and dancers can afford to socially ‘bubble’) and young people are denied basic human rights and freedoms… But Worcestershire county council and Redditch can afford to spend OUR money on snitches and snoops?! I can’t wait to bump in to one of these lockdownazis.

Indeed. One of our Saturday staff got dobbed in by a neighbour when she went to a friend’s house. The police turned up and asked her friend’s mother if there was someone in the house who shouldn’t be. This is what we have come to.

No police when you are burgled, assaulted or have to run the gauntlet of drug-dealing, oh no. Bastards the lot of ’em.

It’s going to be a really, really taxing job. They will have to

“remind people of the best routes through one-way systems”

Whenever I’m walking I’m always going one way.

The graph of long-term Swedish mortality that has appeared recently (see above) is very interesting because the pattern closely reflects the England& Wales pattern for the 27 years that I have looked at – a pattern which shows winter-spring mortality in 2019/2020 to be only eighth highest in that time-span.(Hardly an ‘unprecedented’ disaster).

I projected backwards from that period, and came to the conclusion that I have, in ~three quarters of a century, lived through about two dozen worse periods of infection – i.e. that this past year has been in only just the top third of mortality when adjusted for population over a biblical lifetime.

The Swedish figures suggest that this is indeed probably the case.

Which then leads us on to other comparisons with Sweden and their experience – doesn’t it?

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.” ~ Mencken

haircut this afternoon ? I imagine Boris and Whitty will close most things until Christmas.

only good thing to come out of this shit-show is learning how to cut my own hair – & much better than i’ve ever had it done at a barber’s…

Me too. Had more comments saying how nice it looks than I ever had when I paid north of £50 for it to be cut professionally,

Fortunately I don’t have much hair at my age but it is no problem to make a quite reasonable trim of it now and again. When the barbers opened in July I was tempted to go and have a proper one but that is one service I can manage without.

I just run a razor over it every few weeks, No 1 all over.

Just bought a set of Surker clippers (great reviews – pretty much a +£100 Wahl Magiclip copy) for just £20, all metal body.. the prices of clippers and webcams will likely rise again. It will not be just for one month. To think you could get a Logitech C920 for as little as 30-45 quid just a few months ago.. now they sell for £100 or more…

Looking forward to home delivery again. No slots and everything sold out and bizarre substitutions…

Fuck off and die Boris.

i use and highly recommend the remington quickcut

I’ve booked my haircut for Tuesday if they’re still open then.

Good thinking!

So, takings absolutely decimated today. Bit of a pincer movement – rumours in the press of a lockdown next week and then Bozo and his effing boffins on the box this afternoon.

Do not implement a second national lockdown or other restrictions this winter
https://petition.parliament …

This link seems wrong. Here it is:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/549862

Interesting, my constituency has one of the highest proportions of signatories, I didn’t know we had it in us!

We may be living in a parallel universe. Lockdown Sceptics are portrayed as villains by the New Normals; the supposed contagion spreaders, the killers of the elderly and vulnerable. The real villains are those who believe they can suppress a virus. Who think they can stop humans associating with each other.
The collateral damage caused by this foolishness will in time become fully apparent.
The New Normals care about themselves alone, not future generations. The average age of death for those with the virus is 82. So they trash the economy and ruin the lives of the young, never mind future generations. Just so they can paint themselves as virtuous and caring.
How does this sit with the XR crowd who are apparently so worried about the future of the planet? Perhaps an impoverished future fits in with their environmentalism. So long as the plebs aren’t starving, what’s the problem?
XR and the New Normals don’t give a damn for the lives of the future generations. Both love the catastrophism being indulged in today by so-called liberal democracies in thrall to dodgy data from China and her camp followers.

my prediction: no lockdown, just an update on the numbers and doom mongering from the stooges. I suspect someone leaked it to try and compel action as a last ditch effort, because it wasn’t winning the support they wanted – no 10 doing a leak enquiry suggests this leak was not part of the plan. And given recent commitments I would imagine a lockdown would need a debate and vote, not a press conference.

and a month long lockdown would mean Johnson would surely be gone ASAP: it would be an admission that he was wrong and Starmer was right, as well as an admission things are now worse because he delayed (it would have have been 2 or 3 weeks before).

we are pivoting to Sweden or US republican strategy without being public about it.

i also think Trump’s gonna win, btw.

Hope so

You might be right. However, my thought would be that if lockdown is even on the table then it would be make sense (as much as anything makes sense) to announce it now rather than tell everyone it isn’t happening and then go back on that in a week.

My theory is that SPI-B (or some other group of bastards) are continually calculating whether or not to ‘lockdown’ the rest of England. Using data from the ‘locked-down’ places, and analysis of public opinion everywhere else. They game us.

Good point.
Politically, he has nothing to gain from locking down, but everything to lose.
And vice versa.
Which should interest and drive him more.

“ after scientists warned COVID-19 was spreading faster than their worst predictions.”

Well – you can forget the ‘scientists’ label …

But that apart, a quick glance at the CEBM tracker of ‘cases’ (not illness or death) – which they produced as a response to the last hysterical outburst from the Chuckle Brothers – sort of blows these sort of knicker-wetting modellers’ fantasies out of the water. :

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/tracking-uk-covid-19-cases/

Clearly, having got away with so many fabrications and downright lies, official policy is to double down in the expectation that the population in general is so gullible that they will swallow any old crap.

They are that gullible. Yesterday I was informed by an academic at the university that the wearing of masks is backed by scientific consensus. Presumably the consensus is that he has read nothing contrary in the Guardian.

Apologies didn’t sign in this morning, have been collecting the discarded face nappies from the street (Will be washed and soon available on Designerfacenappies.con)

Is the pig dictator still trotting about on all fours?

I have intercepted his letter to Santa (can’t say how) Guess what he’s asked for?

Telegraph reporting “Swedish regions are pleading with the central government to introduce tougher coronavirus restrictions amid a new surge in cases.”. Funny how no authority ever seems to plead to be released .
No doubt Carrie will be along to tell us how true this is.

I tried commenting on a video showing how deserted London feels these days that Sweden is a success story. My comment got quietly deleted by YouTube. I didn’t even say that Sweden is a success story for how they handled the virus. This is the offending part of my comment:

And completely ignored by the mainstream is Sweden, who just happens to be the biggest success story in the Western world.

I had to jump through hoops to cheat the algorithm. But there you have it. YouTube is actively blocking any mention of Sweden being a success.

Telegraph is behind a paywall – who are they quoting as their source for this information? If I know then I can do some ‘digging’…

I’ve just been out shopping and it was very busy – as usual for a Saturday – in fact possibly more so, due to people buying sweets for Halloween and grave candles for tomorrow (1st Nov is a fairly big thing here).

In theory I am in one of the towns with a few extra recommendations, but it would seem people are not worried. Didn’t see any more masks than usual (which is very few..)

As usual, I glanced at the newspaper headlines and neither the local paper nor the tabloids had any Covid headlines at all… For some reason supermarkets don’t sell the two ‘serious’ newspapers, but I see the tabloids as a reasonable gauge of what ‘the people’ are thinking (as opposed to the politicians!!!!)

https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=66378
Here’s an article from today in German, by a German living there, and explaining the more recent changes.
Basically, outside if Sweden, it’s all framed.

President Lukashenko refused to ‘panic and U-turn’: He said:

“ Meanwhile, the IMF continues to demand from us quarantine measures, isolation, a curfew. This is nonsense. We will not dance to anyone’s tune ,” said the president.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/world-bankimf-exposed-covid-aid-conditional-imposing-extreme-lockdowns-curfews

Write to your MP

As the great Peter Hitchens says, MPs cannot reason, but they can count. Bombard their inboxes with polite but to the point letters reminding them their job is at risk.

Here’s my effort today. The second letter I have written. I didn’t even bother to read his reply to that as I think it’s as pointless as the MP himself.

Dear Mr Bhatti,

I can no longer support a government that perpetually ignores many other scientists, evidence and is threatening to make the same mistakes as it did in March.

This is unacceptable in a democracy and dictats which have no scientific backing should and now will be ignored. I am tired of having to listen to discredited scientists and their fantasy predictions.

The government has failed its people and look like they are going to again. How you can allow this to happen is largely beyond me and shows a lack of due care to your constituents. Locking up healthy economically productive people is ludicrous. And the average age of death is still beyond that of the official life expectancy in this country.

It is very easy to focus on the real problem areas, but we seem to have had nothing but scope creep for the original objective. The NHS is shut for people like me, I am appalled at the cancer deaths and lack of diagnosis of people I know. Where the money is going to come from for an NHS after this is anybody’s guess.

Seeing as the continued government imposed lockdown and policy has destroyed many businesses and my income, you can now expect to lose yours at the next election.

Elections?

How will they be conducted?

Will they be conducted?

Is there a Party opposing these measures?

It doesn’t need a party, just enough pissed off people to stand up against these cretins.

My MP is a 60 IQ Marxist, a statist, clap RNHS heroes, wear your damn mask cretin. If I wrote something to her that put my feelings plainly I’d be arrested.

Do it politely and firmly. They are only interested in themselves and their future employment. I can’t think of any that are doing it for the benefit of others, can you?

Remind them you are needed for them to ride their gravy train.

Excellent letter. You could also remind him that, when the truth comes out, and it WILL, he will have to face his constituents. Boris and his henchmen will run for their bunkers, but your MP will be in real trouble from the people he was supposed to represent. That should wake him up.

Well, yes, write to your MP.Explore all avenues etc.

Peter Hitchens, as good as he is, is still stuck in the 1945-2020 era, where these things mattered, where prosperity was increasing most of the time.

With the financial system now at stake, the authorities have now plainly taken the gloves off, just as Frank Zappa said they would:

““The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

I’ll take 1945-2020 over this anyday :>)

Oh – me too.

me too, and I like to add, that I’ve never liked to think about my age, we all know we just feel like 40 or so….. but I must admit for the first time in my life I am happy that I am O70, if there was not the bitter pill and the thought of my children.

Yeah, the Truman Show. Then he became awake (I wont use ‘woke’) and walked off the set….

A great quote. Thanks for that.

Check out the reply, it’s hilarious. I hope it’s all letters of complaint……

SAQIB BHATTI, MP FOR MERIDEN

Thank you for contacting me – This is an automatic reply to confirm that your email has been received safely.

My office is receiving an unprecedented amount of contact and requests for assistance due to the coronavirus pandemic. I receive a large number of emails, letters and telephone calls each day and each piece of correspondence is dealt with in order of priority and then receipt. Some less urgent queries might take longer to respond to due to the situation.

I’m in the constituency next door.

Great, we could break the law and meet.

Might well do that. Got to pop out for a while but I’ll give you a shout in the comments or forums later.

If lockdown realy comes, then as soon as it’s illegal it will be funny.

I make no apologies for repeating what i replied to someone here earlier, in the wake of how many times people have asked how we get out of this mess:
‘Who or what is going to stop it?’ someone asked.
We, the people. We need to stop being afraid of ‘consequences’, grow some balls, come together and say ‘No More’! Sadly, I cant see that happening yet, as generally, people can’t see further than their own circs, and I don’t blame them. But that is the only thing that’s going to stop this madness.
There is a tiny 1% controlling this BS, as opposed to the billions of people on this planet.
I think I can see a Way Out of this! Can anyone else?

prosecutions for gross negligence manslaughter

Prosecuted by whom?

Us. When we stop playing victim and take back control.

That’s coming, my friend.

Agree. Nothing will be effective, not all the court cases in the world, unless the people want it to stop, and want it enough to act as individuals, personally, and not leave it all to ‘somebody else’.

Trouble is, a sizeable portion of the populace actually are enjoying their bloody slavery!

Hi Rosie

From yesterday –

Rosie

8 hours ago

Reply to JohnB

No you need to engage your critical faculties and avoid falling into the trap of the false dichotomy. Things are not either right-or-wrong. Not either good-or-bad.

There can be a mixture, and other things as well.

Look at the actual facts and don’t reject/accept the whole as a bloc!

Reply

JohnB

2 hours ago

Reply to Rosie

Correctly describing people as ‘opponents’ falls into exactly which right/wrong trap, Rosie ?

I could hardly sleep last night. Was I unclear ?

I didn’t see this.

To answer your question as sensibly as I can – Johnson etc are definitely our opponents.

People here are on our side.

The trap is labelling all the other people. Until you talk to them you don’t know where they stand on lockdown. Furthermore, individuals are not ‘monolithic’ nor ‘mechanistic’. They might be hellish on lockdown but lovely on other things. It’s not straight forward. We need to treat them as human (not necessarily as our friend) until forced to admit that they have crossed a line.

Any use?

When I posted ‘5G opponents’ (i.e. opponents of 5G), I was suggesting the previous poster should use that neutral description, rather than ‘5G conspiracy theorists’.

I’m quite clear that Johnson et al are the enemy. And that 99% of people here are on our side.

Just wondered where the false dichotomy right/wrong stuff came from.

Any liklihood or signs anyone is going to stop this Davos Bojo coup?

See my ‘We are’ post.

I said “Somebody should do something about that.” Then I realized I am somebody. (Quote attributed to various people). MW

Correct!

The BBC has to die. If you are still paying your license fee, stop. Do it now. Do it before you next comment on here, before you make a cuppa or take the dog for a walk. Stop. Paying. Your. License. Fee.

We cancelled ours two hours ago when we heard about the ‘remove their poppies’ tv fiasco. One of the last straws.

Good.

Like an idiot I paid my yearly subscription up front in September. I’ll have to wait another 10 months before I can be subversive on that score.

I believe you will get a rebate. We did when we cancelled. Nice cheque from Capita.

I didn’t know you could do that. I’ll investigate!

It happened automatically for us.

did it 6 weeks ago, feel better every day, waiting for them to come to see me. They can knock as much as they want

They won’t come. I’ve been hoping for a visit for over 10 years.

It’s a baby and bathwater issue. For many of us, the beyond-redemption News and Current Affairs output is a minor matter that can be ignored with the tuning button.

Given that element needs re-structuring, full-blown commercialism isn’t an answer – it actually narrows choice and tends towards uniform sameness and the lowest common denominator.

I prefer choice and variety as a criterion, even if it has its downside.

Maybe, but BBC news and current affairs enjoys a disproportionate position of trust and reach for historical reasons

Yep, but that’s rapidly fading

You’re right – as does the ‘Times’, say. And even Ch 4 news, which used to cut across the grain has become remarkably ‘establishment’.

I’m afraid we can’t dodge this in the short term, except by pointing out the fallacies. But cutting off nose to spite the face isn’t going to alter that sad state of out propagandised media.

The only possible behaviour for a “national broadcaster” is to brainwash people into thinking the way the government/establishment that control and staff it want them to think. And that goes way beyond News & Current Affairs, Entertainment has been in full brainwashing mode for generations now.

And sure enough, that’s exactly what the BBC has been doing pretty much throughout its existence.

Sell off the BBC, and force it to properly justify its existence, to choose between staying woke and going broke or moving back towards the real world.

Ditched in August, Don’t miss it.

Stopped paying it in April.

I am reminded of the tale of King Theoden from The Lord of the Rings

Théoden had grown weak with dispair, and was controlled by his chief advisor Wormtongue, who was secretly in the employ of the evil wizard Saruman. Wormtongue dripped poison in his ear and the kingdom fell to ruin. Finally with the help of friends he was able to see the truth about Wormtongue, cast off the his lethargy and lead his people to freedom.

So Boris what’s it to be? Are you like Théoden, will you wake up or will you go down in history as the worst prime minister we have EVER had?

The Lord of the RIngs provides us with understanding and insight and inspiration. In this case, I believe Boris has fallen and there is no way back for him now. He’s been in it for too long, bought into the ‘climate change’ shiite years ago.
‘The mouth of Sauron’ is an apt description for Hancock – Boris I think is closer to a Saruman himself.

Is he that evil though? For make no mistake these policies are evil and that is not a word I use lightly.

The forces of evil can use any human being that consents to their operation.
C.S. Lewis has some wise insights about the social forces that can cozen men into ‘doing very bad things before they are, individually, very bad men’. See his essay ‘The Inner Ring’ and the novel That Hideous Strength .

Thanks,
The forces of evil can use any human being that consents to their operation.
. … the social forces that can cozen men into ‘doing very bad things before they are, individually, very bad men’.

As you say, wise words guiding us today.
By the way, some years ago, I had a drink in the same corner of the Oxford pub where The Inklings used to meet, and looked around Tolkein’s old rooms. Privileged me.

Yes, the policies are evil, and the Peruvian lady I spoke with earlier was entirely in agreement, in using that word I was expressing her thoughts for her. But with zealots, using that word wouldn’t be helpful.

The policies are evil, so much so, that the man must also be so, IMO.

“Actions speak louder than words”
“By their fruit shall ye know them”

As I say, he cannot be unaware of the real results of ‘climate change’ that wind turbines destroy life in massive quantities and will result in degrading poverty for us all. He’s too intelligent to be unaware. He used to be friendly with Piers Corbyn, who will have shown him the truth.

I doubt Hancock is Sauron, he’s not that bright, and Boris is defo being manipulated by Saruman.

No, no, mari. Not Sauron but ‘ The Mouth of Sauron ‘.
I’ve no idea if that character is in the films as I only read the books – but ‘The Mouth of Sauron’ stands near the main gates into the top part (what’s that area called, now?) and speaks only what he is told to say by Sauron.

He has been doing his master’s bidding for so long that he has lost all of his own personality, to the extent that he has even forgotten his own name.

Just a shout-out for the full article on masks that is cited above. The graphs are really useful references for demonstrating the nature of the myth :

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/29/these-12-graphs-show-mask-mandates-do-nothing-to-stop-covid/

I was just doing my shopping earlier this afternoon and just at the exit a middle-aged muzzled gentleman talking to his middle-aged muzzled wife and he dropped his glasses. I said careful there you dropped your glasses, one of the lenses is out here it is. When I got back to the car it occurred to me how unusual the interaction felt as my hand touched his when I handed him his glasses, then a second time as I handed him the loose lens and he didn’t react at all to a stranger making bodily contact with him except to thank me. What a wretched year this has been that for months people would leap out of the way when another human being came near them but just as it feels like normal behaviour is coming back into style we get another lockdown. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!

You’ve put your finger on the real rationale for this and associated measures.

No.It’s not just stupidity and cock-ups : the socio-psychological rational is pretty obvious to students of political history.

And anyone with a brain on active duty

It’s not just stupidity and cock-ups : the socio-psychological rational is pretty obvious to students of political history.

Be grateful for a history lesson, Rick Please.

I’m not a historian of any sort, but I’d guess Germany in the 1930s as a starting point ?

I saw a graph recently with cases (positive tests!) tracked above the axis and deaths below. I don’t remember where though. Can anyone point me to it please?

Ivor Cummins here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRbtGd70-Ow
about 3 minutes in.
[among other places, I’m sure]

Thanks!

Just got my first “awaiting approval” notice here. Hope that’s not a sign of things to come.

Chill – its’s probably because it contained a link or links.

Nah, they’ve finally spotted OKUK is a WEF mole.

I think while criticising someone’s C Theory I used the phrase p__d sh_ll. That might have been it.

I doubt it. I’ve called several people much worse things than ‘paid shill’.

Several links is the usual culprit.

I’m up for a mole role if the billionaires want to reimburse me on the same sort of scale as their earnings!

I got that, its just routine stuff ‘newby’ stuff by the mods, checking you don’t have a ‘background’.

sorry, penny dropped, you’re not ‘new’.

Did you have a lot of links in your post? That can cause a hold-up…

So Johnson says that ‘someone’s cough could be another person’s death knell’.

Well, someone’s comfortable champagne lockdown in their nice house with Amazon deliveries and Zoom meetings could be another person’s destroyed business, untreated cancer, ruined education, crushed mental health, devastating suicide.

I’d rather take my chances and be in the pub or at a gig, with a 99.95% survival rate I’m fairly confident I’ll be ok

You’ll be fine because you will be living.

Damn right!

You’re absolutely right, but unfortunately the first thing they’ll do will be to close the pubs.
Can’t have the plebs enjoying themselves , you know.

Is there another reason for destroying the pub trade? Just wondering if all the land used to grow grain for lager and hops for beer needed to grow bio-fuels in the “new normal”.

Now where did I leave my tinfoil hat?

They don’t need another reason. Free assembly is crucial to a functioning democracy, which is why the bastards will try very hard to extinguish it.

That’s obviously the party line, as that’s the response I got from my MP when I had the temerity to send an e-mail of complaint. Wish I’d thought of your response.

I think the pointed riposte is something along the lines of – ‘But you’re not worried about the many more people needlessly having their lives shortened by cancer or heart attacks, because you are preventing them from getting treatment?’

… but it’s difficult to see any interviewer taking up that line of questioning. They could end up like a few million others and lose their job.

if i cough and spread the cold it’s not my fault and if anyone thinks it is then life can never go back to how it should be. With that attitude we must forever be locked down and masked. It’s a little unreasonable i feel.

Way more than a little unreasonable, it’s downright stupid.

If Biden wins we are really in the shit.

Don’t worry, he wont. Too much corruption in the family.

Get real – the US is in the shit whether it’s Biden or Trump.The latter is no hero, even if, like the proverbial stopped clock, he got it right (eventually) over Covid. But if the Democrats had gone the other way, he would be calling for lockdown and more injection of Dettol.

Indeed…

UKStasi Constabulary stand ready to enforce their paymaster’s will and the Borisian Diktat.

They are at war and the enemy is you.

Don’t allow this to happen. It’s super important that the British people and the British bobby stay on the same side. Policing by consent. Citizens in uniform.
Don’t allow the psyops to get to you. They want to you feel that way and to create division and hatred. Don’t do their dirty work for them, please!

Just back from a demo, mostly StandupX but others as well. Local demo in South London, with perhaps 120 people.
On the plus side, it was good humoured, the leaders were chatting away with the local bobbies.

Minus side:
(a) bobbies all masked up outside. This is wrong.

(b) Nobody except myself was trying to engage with passers by. I have no idea why it was only me.

This is what happened:

* Long chat with lady of Peruvian origin. She was questioning and gradually came to be able to agree with me that lockdown is worse than the disease. She’s struggling domestically and said, “I can’t do anything.” More conversation and she agreed that she’ll get involved by coming here and translating things from English to Spanish, make available for us all to forward to our contacts. She might, she might not – but if, say, 10 such people were asked, 2 of them might, and that would be a BIG step forward.

If we don’t ask, we don’t get – so ask.

* Chat with a person who came on the march, she said that she’s not up for speaking to people today, but at least she’s here. Exactly, clap clap. But she watched me talk to passers by and was definitely inspired.

*Tried to talk to a zealot. ‘No, it’s rubbish that masks limit oxygen supply’ (the propaganda has clearly come down strongly on that issue). Next time I’ll try fibres and he might as well wear asbestos and give himself lung cancer that way.

By now I’ve found the best line of approach, ” Good afternoon (with cheery smile). It’s perfectly safe. You can take it off.” Body language suggested many were receptive/did hear me even if didn’t stop. Just remember – propaganda is made by repetition, and to counter propaganda we need to repeat as well.

• Used this line on a young couple. They did so. Man asked what was going on. When he found out he rushed off home to drop off his bags and then joined the demo. Young woman a primary school teacher. Reported that the children swap masks “which is so dangerous!” But much more hesitant. So many people dying! I explained that fewer people are dying than usual – but the news reports! – they aren’t telling you the truth – but the hospitals are overflowing – I said no, people that go and look say they’re empty. She said she’s got some friends who are nurses and she’ll ask them.

Then she tried the line on me that “I’ll be upset when someone I know dies of covid.” I got genuinely upset at this point, replying that two of my friends had committed suicide. She very apologetic. She nearly plucked up the courage to give me a hug, but was saying we should stand a metre apart. I explained that nothing had changed from a year ago, etc. It made her think. And what about all those people losing their jobs, they matter too.

She also had been influenced by propaganda that antilockdowners are horrible people, and commented with great surprise that I seem really nice (thanks if you’re reading this ) so that’s another thing, match the person you address with your mood. I was able to be calm and gentle in my approach today, which was a better way. Also recommend that ladies wear a skirt and make a bit of an effort to look feminine.
One of the men was smartly dressed and I thought that was a good look, to have a good mixture of different styles.

Rosie – your empathy is great. Much better than simply dismissing everyone who’s bee brainwashed as ‘stupid’.

Thanks RIck. I used to be brainwashed myself on many topics. It’s not hard. I even know people who have been campaigning for years on ‘climate change’ and yet who have fallen for corona-scam hook, line and sinker. It depends on your personal profile, the deep parts of the human nervous system, not only on one’s intellect.

Listening and talking one person by one person has to be the way this is done, if it’s going to happen. Us to them, one by one.

Please everyone get out there.

In person takes more time, but it’s much more effective in the long run.

Well done!

Thank you

Rosie,

What part of South London was it?

Crystal Palace

Rosie, thanks… There seem to be more localised / regional events happening regularly, away from city centres; it would be good if there were ways of finding out more about them in advance.

I asked about info – and the two places to go (as well as here) are the forums of ‘Keep Britain Free’ and StandupX.

Many thx for that, now bookmarked

I’ll be upset when someone I know dies of covid – strange. People are dying of cancer, heart disease etc all with covid based on a pcr test that is more of a surprise if it returns a negative result. Brainwashing really is working.

Ahead of the Fat Clown and his weird sidekicks Unballanced and Witless’ announcement at 4pm, remember the following:

Rise like lions after slumber in unvanquishable number
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you
YE are many, THEY are few

Percy Bysshe Shelley

This government out now https://www.remove-the-tory-government.org

Interesting! I like the picture of Boris in prison scrubs..

He would look like a big bag of shit.

The following is what happens when you use a lab technique that IS NOT A TEST and start to massively infect people with influenza virus via vaccination… (data for Portugal)

I call it the PANDEMIC OF SNOT SAMPLES !

I came across this link: https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1321532527958466560 showing an Oregon health official reading the latest numbers of Covid “cases” and deaths while dressed as a clown before putting on a mask, supposedly to encourage safety at Halloween celebrations.
She reported that Oregon had 390 “new cases” that day, 38160 “cases” in total, “sadly we are also reporting three deaths today” and in total 608 Covid-“related”(!) deaths.
But Oregon has a population of about 4.2m. It might expect about 39,000 deaths per year; 107 deaths per day; 25,000 deaths since the beginning of March. So “sadly” three Covid-“related” deaths that day – and perhaps 104 other deaths no one cares about…
Dressing as a clown does seem appropriate after all. SAGE members please take note!