2020-11-13

Morning – Will and Toby – whenever do you sleep

It seems they never do – and we are entirely and eternally grateful to them for staying up until the wee hours compiling all this information. Thank you!

Dear Everyone  6:56am

Write your MP a short sweet email.

“If you continue to vote through jobs destroying lockdown I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR YOU OR YOUR PARTY AGAIN”

https://www.writetothem.com/

(Don’t try and persuade them with facts. The only facts the care about tis THEIR jobs)

Keep writing – it’s free – don’t worry if you don’t get a reply)

My MP voted FOR this lockdown, and now she’s joined the Tory ”rebel” group. Is that hypocrisy, or what?

Perhaps she has changed her mind, when the revised figures were made known. I wish no-one had voted for the lockdown, but if everyone changed their minds now it would stop. That has to be a better thing, in my view.

Agreed. There’s nothing to be gained by turning away those who may have reconsidered their position.

She is controlled opposition with the Tory party, or has she seen the light.

I have written to Greg Knight (‘who?’ you may ask) about 3 or 4 times and had only an automated reply. If events in the recent news about No. 10 reveal that even the Cabinet don’t know what’s going on, and backbenchers even less, one has to ask what is the point and why are we bothering?

We are bothering because our lives, not just livelihoods, are going to depend on it.

Exactly. What else should we do? Lie down and take it?!

I have grandkids and I’m very concerned what they’re being led into.

I know, and I’ll probably keep on at him, but with even less optimism than previously. Doesn’t sound as though GBHQ pay any attention to their own party MPs, and if the MPs disregard their constituents….

I can’t be bothered to do that and content myself with asking my MP, on his Facebook posts, when he is going to step aside and make way for someone whose nostrils are not buried in the Westminster trough.

Yep. Just got a reply this evening from Caroline Lucas. As a remainer, former Guardian reading vegan I was proud to be her constituent. Her reply was terrifying. Long list of massaged figures culminating in a condemnation of anti-vaxxers for spreading FEAR!!!! The IRONY. You could not make this shit up. I chastised her immediately for being deeply irresponsible. The notion that a vaccine, rushed and politicised, should be rolled out arbitrarily without all the usual criminal trials, that it should be used as a bargaining chip, disallowing young people from going to concerts and sports fans attending events unless they consent to a vial of poison going into their arm… is inhumane and disgusting. Even hardened vaccine advocates I know would NEVER go near this one. The MPs are all either colluding or brainwashed. I have lost hope. Where can we go and live???
UPDATE: I considered correcting the “criminal” to “clinical” typo but decided it was too apt to change!

As a Leaver, former Telegraph reading omnivore I agree with you entirely.

Absotively!

I totally second that! LS is the one thing that has kept me properly informed and SANE these last eight months. Thanks for all the hard work. Also, I heartily recommend the London Calling podcast with James Delingpole and Toby, which despite the doom and gloom subjects, they always make me laugh. Cheers!

Yes especially when they have a buddies fall out!

The more I read about police reactions, the elderly in care homes being denied visits. The complete shutdown of leisure activities, difficulty in shopping – the list is endless. I am glad I live in Thailand where we can still intermingle in the bars/restaurants with no wearing of face muzzles, no anti-social distancing etc. I would be in the psychiatric unit if I was in the UK – or prison for consistently ‘flouting the rules”

Good luck to you all.

I’m genuinely terrified of having to go back, Judy, this has convinced me of something I have been mulling for the past couple of years – they can bury me east of Suez.

How disempowering! There’s absolutely no need to be terrified – yet! There’s work to be done.

It seems to vary from place to place, around here the Police are still largely absent despite large numbers of people milling about but Alex Belfied YouTube reports on 30 officers descending on a gym in London yesterday to close it down. Thirty !

Yet, when the cenotaph was being trampled on by XR scum, they stood by and let it happen!!! Imagine if that had been Sceptics demonstrating, foreign speaking Police would have waded in with shields and truncheons. Who is telling them to do this, Pritti Patel or Clarise Dickhead?

Patel I suspect…she is a nasty little authoritarian hiding behind the big boy coppers.

Don’t forget Khan. As Mayor he has the lead role and I think is consulted on how to respond to all major demos. He favours political policing. He will indicate to Dick when to go in heavy and when not. BLM, anti-Israel, XR, SWP, Islamic all good.

And no doubt some of them were armed, you just can’t be too careful.

There is still a ‘lack of resources’ to attend a burglary though.

How many of us could you fit in?

Doesn’t the behaviour of the police in enforcing the Rona Act tell folks all they need to know that this is far from being about public safety in fighting a virus?
This is all about compliance through fear and intimidation. They know there won’t be many popping their heads up and openly flouting the regulations but when there is a chance of one of us lowly entrepreneurial plebs daring to oppose the bulls**t, they swoop down in large numbers and make a big show of it. Might as well start tasering us in the streets for an exposed nose peeking out above a mask.
They have so much riding on the big move and the behaviour of the police is clear evidence they can’t afford dissent to spread or be inspired by a few small pleb victories on the streets. It is vital they crush us dissenters right down no matter what it takes.

In other words, they are afraid of us.
In the long term, they have reason to be.Truth will out, and the evidence against the evildoers will be overwhelming. They will have nowhere to hide. We’ll find them, and justice will be done.

And they can’t hide behind “we was only following orders” when the day of reckoning arrives.

Dont you find it suspicious how much the police seem to know. They never bothered their backsides to get to you quickly with real crime now they seem to have eyes and ears everywhere and I dont believe it’s a nosy parker reporting each time. They are turning up in way out obscure places ( country pubs ect). Mass surveillance eyes and ears everywhere??

Yep 5G is wonderful

Yep all the roads dug up and not to repair the potholes …..

Yes they are afraid of us but no, justice will not be done. Those who have controlled the narrative for the last hundred years have realized in the last few years, as more people migrate away from the mainstream media, that this is no longer possible. Hence the broad assault on all remaining civil liberties, on-line freedom of expression, national pride and any nascent resistance to their agenda. Any real opposition is ruthlessly suppressed by the banking system banning dissenters from possessing even a bank account.

These people are ruthless and will not give up their power over us without a gargantuan struggle.

COVID Stasi make the case for de-funding the police more convincingly, if equally as thuggishly, as BLM mobs

They’d probably be replaced with something worse.
The police aren’t the problem. It’s those who make the policies and strategy and tell the police what to do that need to be defunded.

‘The Police’ are very much part of the problem.

Destroyed by first the Stephen Lawrence inquiry and since by common purpose and equal opportunities recruitment.

You make a very good case for the view that there is far more to this coronavirus event than meets the eye. The close involvement of depopulation freak Bill Gates, only adds to the potential villainy of what is now taking place across the country and most of the rest of the world. I would suggest that even the horror stories coming out of the WEF are meant only as distractions and that the real aims of our global masters are really far far worse. If people aren’t now very concerned for the lives of themselves and their kin, then they simply haven’t been paying sufficient attention.

Yes its the old mayor of New York approach known as zero tolerance policing. Crack down on the little things so the big things never get out of hand.

Seen in the Times today;

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/false-news-on-covid-19-vaccine-threatens-herd-immunity-wdglvkwkp

Look through the comments. The posts with the highest likes are mainly wanting to make vaccines mandatory or keep people excluded from school/travel etc for not vaccinating.

Chilling.

Don’t be too concerned. The comment sections of such newspapers are the favourite stamping-ground of 77 Brigade.

Tobias Ellwood: the deep stater’s deep stater.

And as thick as two short planks.

Ellwood – ‘deep’? Sorry – doesn’t compute.

Yes a lot of it is likely the handiwork of 77th Brigade, but that really doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be concerned. These things will come to pass if we don’t resist forcefully.

By the same token, the comments on the DM are very ant-, both lockdown and jab, and usually get upticked heavily. Yes, the occasional one is for a continual lockdown until ‘we have eradicated the virus’, or how selfish you are If you refuse the jab, type of thing, but these comments are usually downvoted by loads. If I’m on a site where I can comment easily I often just answer with ‘Come in, no77, your game.., sorry time is up.’. Probably pointless but it gives me pleasure. And that’s in short supply at the moment.

Have you notice how calling them out tends to shut them up? They probably move on to another paper and put a different shill in their place.
Cynic? Moi?!

I’ve noticed from here they possibly work as tag teams with an offence and defence. The role of the defence is to provide some qualified support (“could be something in what you say”, “hear him out”, “yes that happened to my Nan, so he’s not wrong”) the idea being to.spread seeds of doubt in sceptic minds.

Paywall plus shills. Don’t feed the trolls, it just plays into their hands.

I’ve never thought of Christmas as the inevitable result of enfranchising turkeys, however, in a metaphorical sense I can that the Christmas that is coming is just that.

Brigade at work? Pretty chilling to think it could be but we’d have no way of knowing.

This rabble of socioeconomic vandals, these fascist disciples of the WEF are Conservative in name only. How you can make a monumental decision such as shutting down the economy without commissioning any kind of forecast or analysis into the consequences is an act rooted in the most criminal negligence imaginable.

This lot need to be rounded up and sent to the gulags before they inflict the same fate upon us.

They can go and socially distance themselves on Rockall.

Tough on Rockall!

—and i they don’t like Rockall, we’ll give then Fuckall.

They need Rentokill

Who is going to round them up?

Forgot eggs for breakfast so I nipped out to the market. Coming back in I encountered my first certifiable covid lunatic. A white (technically, orange) woman in her thirties. Masked up, staring at me with geet big goggly eyes as if I were the Lambton Worm. Shared the lift. She stood right in the corner, facing into it. I said nothing except, as I left, I stage-whispered the single word “lunatic”.

She was returning home from working on her tan. Major health risk for her age group and behaviours is obviously melanoma. More likely just getting old and crusty before her time. I celebrate the incident by quoting Kit and the Widow’s parody of The Girl from Ipanema, to be sung to the same tune.

Tall and tan and young and lovely
The girl from Ipanema goes walking
And when she passes, each one she passes
Goes “a-a-a-h
The price of a tropical tanned back
Is a face like a crocodile handbag,”
They go “a-a-a-h
How can you tell what she’s feeling
When both of her eyelids are peeling?”

A Lady of Leather perhaps.

Clever.

A fart plus the comment that two layers of cloth didn’t stop that would have been a good response too.

A face like Chistiane Lagarde.

Christine Lagarde. Former IMF. Came to Quebec in 2013 when the Quebec Liberal Party won the provincial election. Nasty piece of work.

Head of the ECB.very involved in digital currencies

PCR tests and Rapid Express tests for Corona Virus- None of these tests measure the viral load- none of these tests actually tell you if you have an infection- infection means you have an active virus and it’s replicating- the viral load is an amount that would cause an immune reaction and would hence make you sick- none of these tests can do that- they are not diagnostic tests

And all of these monstrous policies are being developed based on this hugely flawed and unreliable testing system.

The first time I heard the “new normal” term and this mantra of “things will never be the same”, I had a gut feeling there was something “off” about it. It’s just a flu-like disease, why does the world have to change dramatically to cope with it?

Of course, since then it’s become fairly evident to those who want to see that “the new normal” is a carefully crafted psyop-term to get people along with whatever changes are planned. And people are falling for it en masse, like the brilliant “conspiracy theory” concept has effectively shut down all public discourse on certain topics.

The carrot is their belief that they will return to life as it was before the killer virus turned the world upside down. People really believe that will happen.

Until that belief is shattered, the morons will see everyone who does not comply, as a threat to that outcome.

Create the monster, then promise to save them from the monster.

We need to stop being distracted by ‘the virus’ and talk purely about the dystopian things being introduced. Ignore the fictions and focus purely on the things being implemented

There is nothing “normal” about what is going on here, new or not.

“Masks symbolize submission, the giving up of access to oxygen. This entire agenda is not about the virus; it’s about control.”

I share your concerns. But who is driving this? China, big Pharma are clearly taking advantage of the situation, but did they create it and if not who did?

That’s the million dollar question.

My view, Its ordinary people who have been given the power of anonymous expression of their innermost fears and amplified them through social media which has reflected on the traditional media and therefore the politicians.

No, that’s the multi-billion dollar, trillion dollar question.

Start here:

SARS: Osterhaus, Drosten, Fouchier
H1N1: Osterhaus, Koopmans, Fouchier, Drosten
MERS: Osterhaus, Koopmans, Fouchier, Drosten
SARS-CoV-2: Koopmans, Fouchier, Drosten.

Notice a pattern?

From there you will get right into the WHO and the Gates Foundation and Big Pharma ghouls.

From there you will see the financial parasites that run Repo markets, hedge funds and all manner of private equity firms that prop up Big Pharma (legalized drug lords) and Silicon Valley scum.

Forget China that is a distraction and/or a Western bias you hold.

You pension fund will no doubt invest in them – so they are your companies really…

I don’t have a pension- they are not my companies.

Sorry, don’t quite understand the names after each virus.

• Ab Osterhaus
• Christian Drosten
• Marion Koopmans
• Ron Fouchier (Fouchier and Yoshihiro Kawaoka modified H5N1 in 2011 to the virus jump species; work resumed in 2013)

As far as I can make out they are the doctors or maybe companies that discovered the virus? But like you, I had no idea what it was saying when I read the comment and would still like confirmation.

Drosten is responsible for the assay and protocols used for the SARS-COV-2 PCR. He comes up many times in Corona – False Alarm which is a book you should read if you haven’t already.

Got the book, will now read. Thank you.

The Banks initially. Those at the centre of the dark web. Those people we never see.

We did it. All of us. We weren’t vigilant enough for the past twenty years or so and just let things slide.

Look no further than Bill Gates and his henchman Klaus Schwab, they are currently the globalist frontmen. Sars-cov-2 coronavirus may not even exist and if it does, it has no more lethality than a seasonal flu. So on that basis we are clearly being mega scammed by our own corrupt governments, which are now pushing the globalist agenda. This became even more became obvious when they started to use the PCR test as their main weapon of fear.

The PCR test cannot diagnose infection and that was the opinion of its inventor Kary Mullis. Is it just a coincidence, that Mullis died in August 2019, just before the corona scam kicked off? Mullis was unafraid of controversy and stuck to his opinions forcefully. Perhaps he was just too big a risk and something had to be done about him.

More like Klaus Schwab and his henchman Bill Gates other than that fully with you!!

I had that same gut feeling too – it’s all a bit weird, we haven’t done it before, why this time, there’s something funny going on – the day they locked us up.
I wasn’t a full sceptic then, as some here were, but that feeling never wained.
And the masks is the most horrific outward sign of everything that is going on. The English language doesn’t have a word strong enough for me to express my feelings about them. Maybe we should invent one.
I don’t think I was on board enough at the time they mentioned ‘new normal’, but well before Rishi spoke of ‘permanent change’ and ‘viable jobs’ – that speech really terrified me.

When people start suggesting he could be the next PM I get the shivers!

Whatever we do we’ll get a shill. The LabLibCon is busted. Lost all faith in any of ‘em.

There are numerous questions raised with tests

• If covid is a dangerous disease with produces severe symptoms and there is clear evidence you have the disease, why would it be necessary to test people to see if you have it.

Below are the symptoms of bubonic plague. The symptoms are so horrific you wouldn’t need a test to see if someone has it.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=black+death+symptoms&cvid=270b65b86db146caadbebefc65823991&pglt=43&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=HCTS

• Why is it necessary to rely on unreliable tests to see if people have the disease.

• Why is it necessary to ask people to be tested in a pandemic.

• If our country is being ravaged by a deadly and dangerous disease, why is it necessary to include people who tested positive but don’t have a clinical illness in case statistics?

• If covid is such an infectious disease, why is necessary to rely on intrusive tests to see if someone has the virus. This is from a leaflet on covid

“Why is it necessary with this test for the swab to be inserted all the way to the cribriform plate connected to the brain when according to doctors an in-cheek swab would be sufficient?

Modern science can take a swab from the inside of your mouth and a complete DNA mapping. If Covid 19 is so contagious that tiny microscopic particles of saliva in your mouth and nose could spread out 6 feet and you need to wear a mask, why not swab the inside of of your highly infectious mouth? People have reported that the 6 inch Q-tip test is uncomfortable and often painful.”

Excellent point.

I haven’t done any research on this, but I have a deviated septum, and the thought of this nose test makes me feel faint. I would hope they could do a cheek swab test on people like me who have wonky noses.

I have the same! The ENT consultant had serious trouble getting his probe up my nose, I’m not sure some partially trained tester could get a swab up there.

They do the cheek swabs.or just dont have a test

As a llama, I’ve got ear, nose, throat and ear issues.

Your comments about the intrusive swabbing are spot on. Another submission ritual like masks?

It is absolutely ridiculous to pretend that a truly infectious viral load would need to be chased around the head and then magnified by 30+ cycles in a PCR amplification.

… only if you’re chasing fictions.

A major justification for lockdown is that Covid is highly infectious and if lockdowns were not in place, we would be infecting each other. Having to rely on intrusive tests to find a virus destroys this argument.

Coronavirus situation in my home, Antigua.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/antigua-and-barbuda/
131 ‘cases’, 3 deaths for the whole year.

We still have the ~ 800 or so deaths per year from every other cause going on as usual.

Locals and tourists have been coming and going from all over the world carrying this deadly virus with them all year except in March / April when all flights to here were cancelled.

Why these low figures?

Is it because we do not have a PCR testing lab here and all tests have to be sent overseas, and its expensive, therefore little testing is carried out?

Conclusion; Little or no testing = no epidemic.

P.S. Thanks Boris for cancelling all our BA flights for the next month or two, Proper kick in the gonads that is!

Are you getting flights from elsewhere? Because if I do have to go back to the U.K. for family reasons and can’t get back into Thailand, I’ll need to go somewhere else sharpish.

There are still flights from Miami and I think one Virgin flight per week from UK. Its pretty relaxed here once you get through the travel BS.

Glad to hear that Antigua did open up again. I was under the impression that you were all still “self” isolated. I guess the cruise ships are still not visiting are they?

What cruise ships?

It will be a mixture of the climate and demography genuinely inhibiting the virus, the (as you say) lack of a PCR scam, and the fact that the virus has f.ed off, anyway.

Clare Craig tweets “we are in a false positive pseudo epidemic” with graphs showing large numbers of positive test results and almost no deaths. The first reply to this tweet is someone saying “can you explain this simpler please for the thick”

At least a modicum of self-insight. But how thick do you need to be not to understand what she was saying and showing? This is the basic problem, isn’t it? It’s that thing about “think of how dim the average person is then realize that half the population is dimmer than that”.

For “the thick”: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE SECOND WAVE. THE EPIDEMIC IS OVER.

For “the thick”: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE SECOND WAVE. THE EPIDEMIC IS OVER.
How do you mean?

Are there published figures for the ratios of hospitalisations and deaths to the number of positive “cases”?

I don’t think she’s correct here. There is almost certainly an upward trend in cases. If all positive tests were false positives then the ONS would have been recording the same positivity rate in the summer as they are now. The current rate is ~20 times what it was in early July.

Take anything Clare Craig says with a large pinch of salt.

Dr Clare Craig is a pathologist and has worked in labs. Her blog posts explain how the positivity rate can and does vary. (Basically there are 2 sources of error: the error rate of the test in ideal circumstances which would be close to the July numbers and then the error rate when you have contaminating factors like other viruses, including the common colds that resurface at this time of year), overworked labs, changes in reagents, changes in testing methodology (how cycles does the PCR run for, etc.)

Dr Sebastian Rushworth has explained all this in detail:
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/11/06/how-accurate-are-the-covid-tests/

But surely all the contaminating factors mentioned, like changes in reagents, were present in July, apart perhaps from ‘other viruses, including the common colds…?’ (there would have been many other viruses present in samples in July, are you suggesting common cold corona viruses present an additional complicating factor at this time of year? And I don’t understand how the latter is a complicating factor, when, as I understand it, the PCR test identifies a strand of DNA unique to SARS Cov2, so if competing viruses could be excluded from consideration in July, why not now?) I remain unclear why anything other than actual prevalence affects the true/false positives rate to any significant extent.

its a sensitive test and needs to be done carefully. a massive expansion and using poorly, newly trained staff working double shifts will reduce the care and increase false +ve. increased prevalence will also increase false +ve frate (due to comtamination)

PHE reckoned false +ve could be up to 4% in the summer. it could be anything now and will vary by shift, lab, lab assistant etc

I had a thought. The PCR test supposedly detects DNA traces specific to SARS-COV2 – among HUMAN coronaviruses.

How about animal coronaviruses? If there was a piece of DNA also found in animal coronaviruses could this explain the “clusters” in meat processing plants?

The hypothesis of its specific accuracy in relation to SARS-CoV-2 has never been established.

“ surely all the contaminating factors mentioned, like changes in reagents, were present in July”

The shambles of Pillar 2 testing has grown enormously as a proportion of tests, which adds enormously to the inbuilt inaccurate interpretation of a test which was never intended for this purpose.

They’re not ”cases”. They are the results of tests mainly on healthy people.
How can those be ”cases”?
Pinch of salt?

Best to have the salt ready when Mayo posts.

Moya, I’ve missed you. I bet you wear a mask in bed, alone.

No, Mayo – the very fact that you are banging on about ‘cases’ tells a tale that requires a barrel of salt.

The real data – all cause deaths and real Covid – shows nothing happening that doesn’t happen every year at the same (or higher) level.

With the Welsh government having assumed de facto independence and imposed a hard border it is now time to talk about reparations for centuries of oppression.

The billions England already sends to Wales annually is hardly sufficient – mere chickenfeed, as Boris would say.

A fast-tracked EU rejoin application will be welcomed by Brussels and a new flag is ready – the red dragon tastefully surrounded by yellow stars.

The 1536 Treaty of Union between England and Wales can now be safely scrapped as King Henry VIII is dead.

Wales looks forward to a new EU border from the Dee to the Severn and the tight little Third Country being squeezed tighter still and tighter.

I would turn the dragon yellow, the Welsh having become a mob of grovelling cowards, and the stars red, in tribute to Dungford and his Politburo.

And they can officially name the country as the Democratic People’s Republic of Wales.

Snowdonia is going to be privatised.

It’s already privately-owned.

But Wales had a majority in favour of Brexit! Cardiff could rejoin the EU I suppose, That might suit the rest of the country as the Cardiff bubble are not keen on the rural areas.

Big cities never are…look at the USA!

Useful comparison graphs of infections (note it does not say cases, which is something) in various countries that did and did not do the lockdown thing, but you’d be hard pushed to tell which was which. They achieve nothing except possibly postponements of the single wave. And the detonation of all economic, cultural and social life and the mental and physical health of the population.

The US graph of course appears to have multiple waves because the wave reached the different states at different times.

Ivor Cummings showed clearly that the US Second Wave was simply the first wave arriving months later in mainly southern States as you say.

Do fragments of dead RNA denote an active infection?
The propagandists disempower us with semantics!

I think starting to use +s is more helpful. Breaks the habitual mindset created by the media too.
Same with those sceptical journos who inadvertently collude by unthinkingly referring to the “pandemic.”

Thing is, their not ‘infections’, either – that requires a viable, infective virus.

These, finally, are the figures I have wanted to see published and PUBLICIZED.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/jpmorgan-finds-no-benefits-covid-lockdowns

Mortality comparison

All these tables look very impressive, but as there is no guarantee that different countries are applying the same criteria, or that any of them are telling the truth, the figures are effectively meaningless.

I’m not sure that would invalidate the overall conclusion.

I am quite sure that it would invalidate the overall conclusion.

There’s a small problem with how they have presented those figures, NN.

I don’t know about the other countries listed, but that 33,923,171 ‘Tested’ figure for the UK isn’t individual people, it’s number of tests . PHE says on the GOV.uk page, “Number of confirmed positive, negative or void COVID-19 test results, by test type. This is a count of test results and may include multiple tests for an individual person. ”

The ‘Confirmed’ number is people: from PHE: “Number of people with at least one positive COVID-19 test result (either lab-reported or lateral flow device), by specimen date, by nation. Individuals tested positive more than once are only counted once, on the date of their first positive test.”

Because of that, it’s also a bit misleading to suggest that that means 50.8% of the UK has been tested; that’s not true either. A lot of those 33 million tests are people being tested multiple times, e.g. health and care workers.

Meant to add: The swab up the nose and the swab down your throat, on each person, are counted as two tests, not one.

I thought that 50% figure was surprising. There’s no accounting (literally) for the lunacies of British public health.

That sleight of hand would suggest that Every number quoted for tests should in reality be halved ?

Does that mean the spivs get paid twice per person?

I don’t think this is correct, at least for tier 2 testing it is the same swab which goes up the nose/back of throat.

I’d have to clarify this for tier 1 tests thou.

Really??
What kind of medical procedure requires you to use the same swab for your nose, with all its trapped pathogens and then wipe them onto your throat?!

Not quite, it’s throat first, then nose. Nearly as disgusting, mind.

You’re correct, Henry; my mistake.

I checked with an NHS contact who works with the team doing the testing in UCLH; London.

One swab; throat first, then nose.

Sorry for the confusion, all.

PS. The bit about multiple testing is correct, though. Hospital and care home staff (docs, nurses, carers, etc) can be tested over and over. Patients can also get tested multiple times during their stay. The 33 million figure includes people tested multiple times.

Looks like no standardisation, then

It’s separate swabs in hospitals.

Is that 100% correct ? One person. Two swipes = 2 cases ?

No, it’s not correct, Lee; my mistake. See my reply to Henry, above.

So What will be and who will deliver our ‘Princess Diana shakes hands with an AIDS sufferer’ moment for the MSM? And will it work to turn the tide with the public?

Out today seeing the demented mask wearers, instead of my usual inner scream (mask less) I just pictured the scene in Toy Story where Buzz Lightyear’s visor retracts and he launches into dramatic ‘last breath’ gasps expecting immediate death (that he’d been programmed to believe)……..then looks up rather foolishly when he realises Woody had been right all along and I he was fine.

Wasn’t that what bozo was trying to achieve by shaking hands with covids before supposedly catching it himself?

Aha, the ‘Boris has Covid’ story……..a nice little cover for Carrie booking him in for the ‘snip’.

Previous Mrs would have been delighted to issue the two brick clap to his nether regions

At the hospital that had no patients with COVID at the time?

By way of local confirmation for Toby’s second item
Local news (not Local Live)

Headline “More Covid cases in County hospitals than ever”

Before the usual ramblings about Second Wave overwhelming the NHS but saved by lockdown 2 the accompanying graphic reveals.

1. Number of open (?) beds 2,800

2. Number of beds occupied by Covid cases 220.

3. Covid cases in ITU 12.

4. Inpatients diagnosed with Covid past 24 hours 10

5. New admissions with Covid past 24 hours 8.

So less than 10% of beds occupied by covids of which 5% seriously ill.
Strangely the lengthy report says nothing about discharges or indeed Deaths.

My belief is that they expect readers to skim the headline, be scared off by the graphic and then move onto the latest news about Meghan or Strictly.

Zombies are addicted to fear, and it’s in the Fascists’ interests to ensure that the addiction is lavishly fed. Otherwise, the zombies might start getting withdrawal symptoms, such as glimmers of common sense.

Unfortunately, the bulk of their readership no doubt lives up (down?) to their expectations.

http://www.contrarianprize.com/news.html

I’ve nominated Professor Gupta for the next contrarian award.

Secondly, here in The Progressive Republik of Saor Alba, masks are now worn everywhere, increasingly seen in the open air and in cars and gagging small children.

What a thoroughly dismal, divisive and rancorous place this now is, as we anticipate many more months of pointless, mind numbing isolation, paranoia, deprivation and virtuous compliance ,all the while listening to the shrill effusions issuing from Holyrood.

Demand more dosh while denouncing the English and spinning the SNP mantra.

The zealots are unmoved by the rising impoverishment, unemployment, economic fallout and despair: why? Well, they’re financially secure.

’I’m alright Jack’ hides behind the sturdy support for lockdown, lockdown, and whipped up loathing of The Donald and his supporters provides a convenient safety valve:( I encountered the full unabridged version yesterday, while conversing with an acquaintance in local supermarket).

Happily around here muzzling in the open has fallen below 50%, virtually none at the school gates, none at all near The (6th form) College where there is no social distancing either.
I drove through the University campus yesterday, there were relatively few students wandering about but hardly any had masks apart from the Chinese but they wore them before Covid was a thing.

Lucky you! Signs of common sense in your area.

Let’s hope it’s highly contagious!

I seen a wee girl (must have been about 4 years old) muzzled up with a face mask by the Portland St suspension bridge yesterday when I was jogging past. Such a disgusting sight. Her daft mother was knelt in front of her, aggressively scolding her in the street for some misdeed – with a mask on too. Poor wee lassie looked utterly miserable. I wanted to tip the mother straight into the Clyde.

Maybe we should start haranguing these child-abusers about the harm they’re doing to their kids in the same sanctimonious meddling way the mask-lovers like to dish out to us?

I really hate seeing little kids in masks; it’s one of the very worst aspects of this lunacy.

Especially when it has never been recommended for anyone to wear masks outdoors, least of all children.

Oh, gosh, I saw a little boy in a restaurant the other day wearing a mask and it nearly brought me to tears. He looked both confused and brave. I feel so sorry for these kids, who knows what it will do to their mental health in the future.

I keep making this point,but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

What will happen to children’s development if this craziness continues ad nauseam?

Us too. It’s like the same blank stare when you mention the care home deaths. MW

That’s really bad but I’ve seen worse:

London Underground – little girl around 4-5 years old, muzzled but clearly hating it and tugging it on one hand in order to breathe I suppose while other hand was tugging at dad’s sleeve in order to get his attention.

So what does dad do? Remove kid’s muzzle? Talk to kid? Oh no, no. He shoves a mobile phone on the kid’s hand and tells her to keep quiet.

I was so furious at that double child abuse that I wanted to beat the dad up and throw him out of the carriage on the next stop.

Not one trace of Covid has ever been found on London Underground. What’s the point of the masks ?

You’re guess is as good as mine. TFL is just sprouting the usual propaganda and lies.

Kerrrrchinggggg!

Wish you had…he sounds like he deserved it. Its so hard to hold it together these days!

I will have a degree of schadenfreude when dad wonders what went wrong when kid grows up and develops a multitude of physical and psychological ailments.

Bart, this makes me angry. What the f have we become as a society?

We can’t get to these people through any kind of media; one way would be by way of handbills, stickers and leaflets. I wonder if there is an artist or cartoonist who would be willing to illustrate how a mask user breathes in mask fibres combined with many of the bacteria, yeasts, fungi that they have just exhaled and becomes affected by oxygen deficiency and excess CO2. Scare tactics to counter the official narrative.

Toby’s piece on hate speech coming to England.

Two simultaneous phone calls to his local Police station

1. ‘Freddie called me a fat spaz’
2. ‘She called me a smelly gay’

Kerrrrching for the lawyers, paid for by Toby.

If had a penny for every time I was called a puff at school (and Sunday school), I would have about twenty quid. Talk about being born too soon.

From the Grand Master of agitprop:

“Trust is good, control is better.”

“It is true that liberty is precious — so precious that it must be rationed.”
― Vladimir Lenin

My evidence to the Digital, Cuture, Media and Sport Committee FAKE NEWS Inquiry warned that we were headed towards an East German/Stasi type situation with bureaucracies deciding what is true:

http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/digital-culture-media-and-sport-committee/fake-news/written/73097.html

http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/digital-culture-media-and-sport-committee/fake-news/written/76219.html

Of course, Matt Hancock was DCMS Secretary in those days.

I can confirm the limited number of titles available in East European bookshops.
In L’viv (Lemburg) one was piled high with the collected speeches of Leonid Breshniev going cheap since he was dead. I thought its colourful cover might look good on my but I don’t know what he said because it’s in Russian and cyrillic.

On my shelves

I know NickR did a nice little graph, or two, yesterday re. The Great Admissions Scam . Thanks Nick.

I’m away at the moment and I only managed to get a brief look at the new NHS monthly report that came out yesterday:
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/Covid-Publication-12-11-2020_v4-CB.xlsx

I’ve noticed that they are still pulling the same scam that I mentioned back on 14th October:
https://lockdownsceptics.org/2020/10/14/latest-news-162/#comment-186272

Yes, they are still adding people going into hospital with Covid symptoms, (who have had a positive test already), to those patients who are already in hospital and test positive for covid, whether they have symptoms, or not , or whether they are being treated for covid, or not…

…and calling them all New Admissions!

This is the number shown daily on the Healthcare page at: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare It’s also the number the MSM and the Government are using to try to scare people into thinking the NHS is being overrun.

Toby’s doctor friend covered it here on October 15, after seeing my post:
https://lockdownsceptics.org/2020/10/15/#how-many-hospital-cases-are-really-covid

He says:

So, in summary, the headline figure broadcast of ‘ patients admitted with Covid ’ includes:

– Patients who really are ill with Covid and need treatment

– Patients who test positive but have no symptoms and are in hospital for an unrelated issue

– Patients who arrived without Covid, but contracted it in hospital and may never have developed symptoms either

Unfortunately, we can’t be told what percentage of the reported ‘admissions with Covid’ actually have symptoms of the disease and other confirmatory tests (characteristic Chest X-ray signs, lowered arterial oxygen on blood gas analysis, raised inflammatory markers, high temperature, etc). These are the true ‘Covid positive’ patients.

It is not clear to me why we can’t be told this information, but one can be sure that the headline figure reported on the BBC of daily admissions with Covid is almost certainly higher than the number of patients admitted with symptoms of Covid for active treatment and possibly very much higher.

Bunch of scam merchants!

Please send the links above, and NickR’s excellent graphs to your MPs. We need to keep outing this scam.

Thanks; be back on Monday.

Without DNA sequencing you cannot really tell whether a respiratory case is Covid so likely in most cases they still don’t know.

And this is the crux: they never did.

If we take Clare Craig’s idea and test people with the new test it may bring numbers down. But the issue is that uniquely identifying Covid was never done. Either through assumptions being made or lack of time and resources to eliminate other respiratory diseases.

Looking at respiratory diseases over the year you may think that’s due to a virus. But it can also be due to neglect and changes in care as those patients are mostly elderly who tend to get these things in a manner of ways.

This has been a mania from the start. And yet still we aren’t cutting this nonsense out

Old people dying of respiratory disease will have a range of pathogens in their lungs. Only a major autopsy would have any chane of establishing and kind of hierarchy of causality in individual cases, and even then it’s doubtful. Excess deaths and in particular excess respiratory deaths are our best guide. Clearly in the Spring Covid was having a major impact.

False accounting!

I wonder if Dom’s resignation will mean that the PM will change course on Covid and go back to his liberal ways. Maybe he will start questioning Witless a bit more too.

Let’s hope for the best.

So far as I can see this ‘news’ about Dom’s resignation stems solely from a tweet by one Alex Whickam retweeting
Laura Kuenssberg in which she quotes Dom

“my position hasn’t changed since my January blog”

and she concludes
“when he planned to make himself ‘redundant’ by the end of 2020-he’s off”

Hardly news but the press is all over it.

Is it news or speculation? After all, the Express stated at the start of this month that Lizzie will abdicate next year but multiple news sources reported yesterday that there will be an extra bank holiday in 2022 to mark her 70th anniversary.

Laura was a lead item on this mornings R4 8am news. At no point did she offer anything more substantial than in my post.

It might not be popular with people on here, and I won’t be getting into a row about the rights and wrongs, but as a countryman I really wouldn’t get your hopes up about Symonds. She does not have the vaguest notion of a grasp of science so I expect more lockdowns rather than fewer.

I tend to agree.

I doubt Symonds will be forcing Boris into lockdowns. It was Cummings that had the main authority behind it.

for a brief moment I attempted to consider whom I despise the most. Then I stopped myself from such a draining thought process. DePiffle, symonds, Cummings …the quad…they’re all despicable. It reminded me of when I was a kid, and we used to try and work out which Nazis were the most evil in descending order. It’s a game that can go on for a long time unless you check yourself; and you feel sick by the end of it.

I fear the PM has come himself to love Big Brother (Big Brother being nebulous and beyond the human). Moreover, within a few weeks of entering No 10 having pledged to defend free speech he was engaged with the attempt to suppress discussion of vaccine safety, using ad hominem rhetoric against “antivaxxers”, but apart from the fact that he he was and is using disgraceful hate language it was fundamentally an attempt to stop people talking about a subject altogether. Most people probably at the time didn’t think it was any big deal, but apart from the language sounding slightly cracked it has come to mean in not many months a hell of a big deal in terms of the future of democracy and the openness of society. Something is going to be done to us which we are ever increasingly not allowed to talk about. And if you are not allowed to talk about something in terms the history of human institutions the reasons can only be bad. It was in fact Seth Berkley, CEO of the Global Vaccine Alliance (ie an industrial group) who in 2017 first proposed in Spectator on-line that “antivaxxers” should be banned from social media – this just means whether people are ideologically opposed to vaccines or not they are simply not allowed in effect to talk about the safety and effectiveness of products being injected willy-nilly into citizens. Another feature of the extraordinary story is that since 2011 (originally arranged between David Cameron and Bill Gates) the British government has been pouring billions of pounds into GAVI, as if the British tax-payer owed the pharmaceutical industry money. I believe this is actually corruption.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4078904/amp/The-fattest-charity-fat-cat-Foreign-aid-boss-MILLIONS-1-5billion-handed-charity-British-taxpayers.html

Some will also recall Johnson’s grovelling performance hosting the GAVI summit in June. Of course, GAVI is just one of the global front organisations involved in this saga. Johnson is hopeless and useless because he could never understand why any of this is wrong.

In a rational universe we would just talk about vaccines as industrial products with advantages and shortcomings and you would not have labelled as a bad person if you did it. Instead, they have been promoted to the status of state and global religion and we really have to look at the credentials of the people engaged in this game before we take it at face value.

According to Worldometer, deaths due to Covid have been above 500 a day for three days now. And still it seems that acute respiratory infections are well below the average for this time of year.

Either there is something funny going on with someone’s data, or there never really was a Coronavirus crisis…?

As it happens i was just looking at causes of deaths as it often seems to me that mithering on about precisely why an elderly person dies is not helpful, why can we not just put old age as the cause of deaths?
It turns out you can, these days it is not encouraged as for some strange reason most people seem to want to know a precise reason. But you can put old age as a cause of death, if the death is under 80 this is then referred to the coroner, but over 80 it is an accepted cause of death without further question. If all the over 80 ‘covid’ deaths had simply been put down as old age, you wonder what effect that might have had on the covid deaths statistics?

There were a load of reasons put on my Mum’s death certificate but if anyone asks me i say she died of being 90, I really do not need any other reason.

I suspect you are right, that Covid is being put on the death certificate in the necessity to put something specific, and because it is fashionable these days.

Back in March/April, the death rate really was over the average for the time of year and the Covid death rate only breached 1000 on nine day. Yet now, the death rate – from acute respiratory diseases in particular – is actually below the seasonal average.

My friends mum (99) went into hospital because she fell. She already had a bad knee and twisted both ankles in the process. Since admission she has had every test possible although not sure if they have looked at her ankles. They have found out that she has an old heart and some old lungs….what a surprise. I’m sure she will have Covid soon.

This discouragement of ‘old age’ as cause of death on a cert started after the Shipman case.

I know a guy who, so I’ve been told, has the Covid. He has all the symptoms, struggling to get out of bed. Plot-twist: he’s tested NEGATIVE for Covid, but his GP has told him he has it, based on symptoms.

This time last year his GP would have told him he had the ‘flu. Which is what he clearly has. But in 2020, even without a test, any respiratory illness is automatically Covid.

A medic told me early in lockdown 1 that this is known as Clinical Covid, got some of the symptoms but test negative-, not uncommon apparently.

I was desperately sick last December (it lasted for three month, wheezing and coughing, fever and deep exhaustion) and my GP said it was “unspecified respiratory illness” and gave me an inhaler and a Z-pack. I went home knowing that eventually I would heal.

I cringe to think about what protocol they’d put me through now. Probably in a hospital away from my family.

“Lifetime ban for Warrington MP”. Congratulations to Pubwatch. That’s the way to signal disapproval. Maybe the restaurant and independent shop owners in our towns and cities should follow suit. Might make some of these lazy and self satisfied MPs take more notice of the damage they are causing to businesses in their local areas.

Funny you should mention this. When I woke in the early hours, I was thinking what acid remark I could put on my blackboard this morning (apparently, previous sarky comments have been the talk of … Waitrose – oooh …). Anyway, I was thinking something along the lines of:

“Beware, snitches are in operation here” or
“All agents of the state – with the exception of the principled MPs who voted against the Lockdown II lunacy – are barred for all eternity”

Go for it kh1485. We are behind you all the way. Include their families as well, if you can afford the hit!

Since March 2020, the form of rule that has been systematically unfolding since the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989/1990 has been fully in evidence: A transnationally operating oligarchic caste has taken over rule in the Western “democracies”.
The mass base of “traditional” fascism was the enthusiastic petty bourgeoisie, incited by propaganda (1). The leader (state) promised the masses salvation from all evils. The leader carried the masses, the masses carried the leader (state) and the latter led them into war and ruin in the interest of (monopoly) capital.
In the course of recent decades, a transnational, well-connected caste has emerged, which no longer conducts its wars only outwardly, but has recognized civil societies as a whole as a threat to its power. Since March 2020, the centers of power have expanded their wars inwards in the name of the corona infection regime.
By transnational “elite” fascism I mean an alliance of transnational capitalist class, transnational power elite (2) with the transnational digital, military, intelligence, science and media complex and the governments as their executive committees. I refer to this conglomerate as the parasites of civil societies, which serve as their “host” bodies.
Their new means of rule is a health dictatorship based on infection regimes that can be activated at any time. Today Covid-19, tomorrow rhinoviruses, the day after tomorrow perhaps malaria or a “biological warfare” attack.

https://winteroak.org.uk/2020/11/12/elite-transnational-fascism/

As H.G. Wells, C.S. Lewis, Orwell and others warned us.

A quick story of how I escaped Sturgeon’s northern gulag into the wasteland formerly known as England.

I got in my car, filled up with fuel and drove south on the M74.

The end.

To expand on this, I’m currently sitting in a deserted hotel somewhere near the M25. Quite how this hotel is “allowed” to be open isn’t clear to me, but it is. And it feels like I’m the only one staying in it. The bar and restaurant are closed, but I was able to order a pizza and a small tub of vegan salted caramel ice cream and a Diet Pepsi (we don’t have Diet Coke, will Diet Pepsi be ok?) to my room.

The journey was entirely uneventful. I stopped off at two service stations on the drive here, entered and used their facilities without putting a mask on. I entertained myself by listening to Triggernometry. And I didn’t encounter heavy traffic at any point.

I counted 3 police vehicles on the roads, which works out at about 1 police vehicle per 115 miles. No roadblocks. No being pulled over based on my Scottish number plate and no demands to provide my papers (I had considered asking my client to provide me with a headed letter of invitation to visit their premises as proof that my journey was “essential”).

Don’t believe all the scare stories about England. We are not that bad.

In my neck of the wood, all traffic normal, actually the A143 yesterday very busy. Besides the closure of our lovely pubs and independent shops, no lockdown apparent.

Dear Seceptice 6:56am

Write your MP a short sweet email.

“If you continue to vote through jobs destroying lockdown I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR YOU OR YOUR PARTY AGAIN”

https://www.writetothem.com/

(Don’t try and persuade them with facts. The only facts the care about tis THEIR jobs)

Keep writing – it’s free – don’t worry if you don’t get a reply)

I’ve already done that. I’m not sure what is the point of repeating it as she did and now I won’t.

Good morning everyone

I was wondering did anyone else see the 1000 lucky fans allowed into Windsor Park for last nights match with Slovakia?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8943693/1-000-fans-disinfection-pods-allowed-watch-Northern-Ireland-play-football.html

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1326964911889653762

This is the website of the company who supplied the pod – https://www.4urprotection.com – https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/NI672021-4-ur-protection-ltd – setup just a couple of months ago.

One of the 2 owners Michael Lamont runs Lamont Cleaning & Support Services – which looks like a standard cleaning company.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/business/casestudy/lamont-cleaning.htm

One one hand, you can’t but applaud 2 savvy businessmen seeing a gap in the market (I’m sure Alan Sugar would be proud!), but honestly doesn’t it just sum up the lunacy that is 2020, and that people actually went through the thing – not even stopping to ask what might be being sprayed at them.

Best regards

Simon

How long did it take to get the crowds into the grounds?
Isn’t covid supposed to be an airborne infection, hence the “need” for masks?
Nuts!

One of the mad behaviours that Covid seems to trigger is the compulsion to voluntarily take a PCR test.

The only possible outcomes are (a) “negative” i.e. nothing or (b) “positive” and you disrupt your life and the life of those around you who you have to “turn in” for having been near you.

You don’t get anything out of it. No extra medical care, no free medicine, nothing. At best you get nothing, at worst forced isolation and potential forced isolation for those you’ve been around.

Covid is primarily a mental disorder.

So well put

Increasing evidence of that, mass hysteria.

These volunteers are wittingly or unwittingly a huge part of the problem. Without any volunteers, it’d be much harder for the ‘power’ to compel testing at the same scale. Casedemic would fall away, and the fascistic measures would be considerably harder to ‘justify’ in the eyes of the population. The ‘power’ would then be forced to switch again; they would talk about ‘inferred cases’ or ‘calculated cases’ or some other BS to fuel the casedemic.

But you can congratulate yourself for not killing someone’s granny and helping the NHS not to be overwhelmed. Who doesn’t want to be a hero?

Apparently my little Northumberland town is to be subjected to ‘mass testing’; welcomed by our utterly useless MP, Opperman. We already have so many people testing positive in Northumberland that it will soon be a higher figure than the actual population. What is the purpose of these tests, other than to provide evidence for most house arrests? And what will happen if someone knocks on my door and I politely say, ‘No thank you’?

I kept telling people Carrie had power.. works for a Rockerfeller eco organisation..

Terrifying. A silent green marxist Davos coup.

I sometimes wonder if we’re witnessing what’s similar to the last days of Tsarist Russia:

Johnson = Nicholas II
Carrie = Alexandra Feodorovna
Cummings = Rasputin

Where is our Lenin, then?

Keir Starmer might fancy himself as one but he ain’t.

Starmer is our Kerensky. He’s fully complicit

And even wants worse – lockdown on par with France, Spain, etc#

No idea, but our Stalin is probably currently a footsoldier in the ranks of ideologically motivated thugs like BLM/XR/antifa, working his way up and waiting for the idealists to clear the way for him.

Biden to send Obama as US ambassador?

Let’s hope not. 8 months of Soviet style government and centrally planned economy society is more than enough for me. If there is 70 years of this madness ahead of us I may just decide to migrate to an isolated frozen tundra myself before they send there…

Agree but we’re already in the totalitarian stage. That’s why we need to push back before its too late.

I’ve just started reading ‘The Race To Save The Romanovs’ by Helen Rappaport; fascinating.

I’ve read that too and would recommend it.

Plus Rappaport’s Four Sisters is worth a read too.

I’ve just finished it; before that I read her ‘Caught In The Revolution’. She’s a wonderful writer and essential for all Russian history fans.

Agree. She’s also written an excellent book on Queen Victoria in the aftermath of Prince Albert’s death – Magnificent Obsession

Many thanks for the recommendation, will add it to my ‘to read’ list. I’ve recently read Stephen Kotkin’s first two volumes of his trilogy on Stalin. He certainly was a tyrant in a league of his own. Russian history is fascinating for sure.

I’ll add your Kotkin books to my ever growing Russia list. Thank you.

A black joke indeed. (See origin of name of HMS Black Joke most successful ship of West Africa Squadron)

When you get vetted for the highest security clearance they look at how you may be bribed or influenced by family. Something amiss here if the person with high clearance is being influenced.

Maybe that’s why he hasn’t married her. She doesn’t count as ‘family’.

Soylent Green marxist Davos coup.

A silent green marxist Davos coup.

The capitalists are all Marxists and environmentalists. I didn’t know that.

I think it should read “green”.

This the the latest from The Bernician. Sceptical sceptics make of it what you will, but time will tell.

COVID-1984 UPDATE |12-11-20COVID-1984 PCP UPDATE | Here is a useful evidence bundle relating to the case brought against Wancock. Also a few more bits of info

Following on from the 11th day of the 11th month at 11:11:11, by direct email to the address which is solely for laying papers electronically at the magistrates court in question.
When the papers are received, an automatic acknowledgement is generated and from that moment the information is considered duly laid.

Because it is an indictable offence, it will be transferred immediately to the crown court, where a judge will be instructed to issue a warrant for Wankock’s arrest, to prevent him committing any further crimes.
If they refuse to issue the warrant, they still have no choice but to issue the summons, ordering him to appear in court to plead innocent or guilty.

This has been submitted under the Peoples Union of Britain PUB

Soooooo someone called the Police in our village because they’d seen someone in the beer garden of the local pub. It’s a small village and only a few people would be stupid enough to do this.

The police turned up and asked the landlord and landlady what was going on. The pub has B and B rooms out the back and it was the guests (there for work at a local science park) who were the seen and reported.

I don’t know whats more worrying, the police state we’re entering into or the compliance of the health Stasi who don’t research a fucking thing and think they have the right to sneer down at us who actually take the time to research whats happening and subsequently think its all a load of bollocks.
https://therealnormalpodcast.buzzsprout.com/

A few people like Brendan O’Neill and David Kuerten have called out on what the former has called “selective policing” with the likes of BLM and XR getting a free pass while anti-lockdown protesters are given short shrift.

Also it makes you wonder why the police are constantly bleating about cuts and poverty when they have the resources to turn up in order to attempt to shut down a gym but are nowhere to be seen when someone is being robbed, assaulted or a victim of grooming gangs. The next time they cry poverty and cuts, they should not be believed and told in no uncertain terms that they ain’t getting more taxpayer cash.

So agree. I have been subjected several times to ‘visits’ and all because some bastard went snivelling to the authorities. The latest threats came because they had been supplied with “photographic evidence”. There are some truly vile people out there.

The people who snitch are the lowest of the low. They should read up on what happened to their counterparts in France after WW2 and Germany following reunification.

Their day of reckoning will come.

Stay strong and you’ll get through this.

I’ll buy some hairclippers and happily volunteer to get shearing!

They were hung from the lamposts in Hungary in 1956 before the Soviet tanks rolled in.

It’s mental. You could compare lockdown sceptics to black people being stopped and searched in London. This country is getting more fucked up by the day! Might edit the next podcast offering to calm down!

Agree. The police find it easy to go after low hanging fruit and call it work but don’t seem to want to do real work which is to solve REAL crimes not pretend ones or as Lord Sumption says “ministers’ preference”

They will rue the day they alienated the Great British Public. It will come.

Not really because young black men commit a disproportionate amount of crime.
The situation is more akin to a totalitarian state where people are persecuted for not following government policy.

Try being a Catholic during the Troubles. Don’t know how many times I was stopped and questioned by police and army for just going about mu business. The UK has form but sad to see it on the mainland.

About 1% of what happened in NI has ever been reported in the main stream media on the mainland.

you should have rung the police after and report a suspected burglary and see how fast they respond to that

This link was posted earlier in a rely.. Posting again… this very interesting thesis

We are reposting here this important article by Ullrich Mies from the German-language Rubikon site, in the form of a “raw” translation via Alison Blunt and deepl.com

Since March 2020, the form of rule that has been systematically unfolding since the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989/1990 has been fully in evidence:

A transnationally operating oligarchic caste has taken over rule in the Western “democracies”.

https://winteroak.org.uk/2020/11/12/elite-transnational-fascism/

“We should calm down not lockdown”

My 8 year old daughter. Nov 13th 2020

Maybe we should put her in charge?

I will vote for your daughter in to go into government alongside the following:

Sir Desmond Swayne
Lord Sumption
Sir Iain Duncan Smith
Carl Heneghan
Michael Yeadon
Sunetra Gupta
Karol Sikora

anyone else I’ve missed?

Richard Drax, Graham Brady, Clare Craig.

All great names!!!

Most of Clare Craig’s claims are nonsense. There are too many like her who are damaging the credibility of the sceptic ‘movement’.

Unlike you of course!

Peter Hitchens.

Charles Walker
Neil Oliver

Ivor Cummins

He’s Irish, but that’s still a yes.

Charles Walker thinks the vaccine will save us all!

Only saw that afterwards – a bit horrified by that after his amazing speech last week. What dark shadows was he talking about if not these ones??

It looks like someone from out of those dark shadows has had a firm word with Charlie Boy.

Wolfgang Wodarg, ex MEP and respiratory diseases medical director who, along with Sucharit Bhakdi, called this correctly back in March.

Esther McVey

If we add some non UK nationals:
Ivor Cummins
Reiner Fuellmich

Reiner Fuellmich, yes a great mind, but like Ivor Cummins, he has his work cut out at home.

Carl Vernon.

Hear!Hear!

Andrew Lawrence.

And Vernon Coleman

Sir Charles Walker

See Cheezilla’s reply to me – he’s all for the vaccine – back off the list I think

Malcolm Kendrick

John Lee (former NHS pathologist as opposed to Caymen Islands John Lee). And naturally our very own Toby and Will as special advisors!

…and Francis Hoar

We need to calm down as well. Mandatory vaccinations hold no threat whatsoever. I DOUBLE DARE this government to set up the apparatus of an apartheid state where everything is segregated.

NOT GONNA HAPPEN

If I told you this time last year that within a few months, the government was going to force the entire nation into a months long virtual house arrest because of a new bird-flu like virus, you would have said something similar. Impossible, Not gonna happen.

And yet here we all are.

Believe me, EVERYTHING is now possible. Everything.

I fear Tom, you may be wrong on that one. I hope not. I fear that this is indeed on its way.

I asked my daughter and she said forcing people to take the vaccine is wrong but they’ll probably do it anyway because they think covid is so bad

Not gonna happen. By even engaging it as a possibility gives the idea legs. Relax – laugh when anyone suggests concentration camps etc because they truly are complete sausages.

I have no doubt it won’t be mandatory. absolutely no need. will be plenty of volunteers. it is a step too far

It all really begs the question as to how we do change any of this? If you raise any general points of statistics overall deaths and comparisons people are inclined to switch to the personal and accuse you of being callous because there mum died last week. I think this contrast between national strategic analysis and personal sentimentality is one of the reasons the politicians seem hamstrung on this matter. They are terrified of saying anything that will make them seem callous to their electorate. So how can any of this be changed?

1. Economics, as the death and hospital data is less terrifying there will be more tenancy to balance our future actions with economic considerations.
2. Legal; We do need to challenge the legal position on all this. As Lord Sumption says The public Health Act which is being used as the legal base for lock-downs was never intended to be used in that way, the current data does not support the legal justification for using the Public Health Act in this way. I think this needs to be pushed hard with all our MPs they would be quite wrong to vote to further use the Public Health Act for more lock downs. The Attorney General should be obliged to give a statement to the House on the use of the Public Health Act. Mrs Thatcher gave us the Public Health act we should use it as she and her Government intended or we should draft and properly debate a new Public Health Act.

As I keep saying, to accelerate the turning of the tide there needs to be a huge, professionally managed, well funded campaign of information akin to Vote Leave (or Remain if you prefer) to counteract the propaganda and change public opinion. It would not be easy and may attract censorship or worse, but it’s worth a shot.

The legal challenge you describe is one of the bases of the Dolan case.

I agree. What does everyone think about the Reform UK party ?

Anything is better than the Conservatives and Labour (complicit). Liberal Democrats also a waste of space with their controlling approach

If we really want to make a difference, save the economy and get our lives back to normal we will need to vote for either the Reform Party or the Reclaim Party

Got to do something.

I’m looking at both to weigh up the options

Its changing. Lockdown2 is annoying people, dodgy data 50,000 cases, 4000 deaths a day – the main narrative is falling apart. Covid deaths will recede into the distance but the effects of lockdown will carry on for years.

I have no doubt it is changing – just too slowly for my liking and the damage is being done

One benefit I see potentially is a proper discussion on the limits of government power. I was genuinely surprised they had the power to put us all under house arrest.

In the North East, ‘cases’ have risen massively since Lockdown 2. People were motivated to stay in Tier 2 and keep the pubs open, so ‘cases’ were actually falling, but now that they’ve had Lockdown 2 imposed on them anyway, they don’t give a sh**. They’re largely ignoring it.

Yes good on them.

They love to exaggerate the dangers. 4000 a day. It doesn’t matter how many die every day because they will say that their measures prevented that 4000 a day dire prediction from coming true.

David Cameron’s Big Society.

when they decided to lockdown they also decided to scare us into compliance. that is well known. and utterly see-through. the truth will out. they can claim lockdown1 saved 450,000 lives and lockdown2 saved 4000 a day. it doesn’t matter. they can keep claiming that as they gibber away in their care homes in 40 years. it will either fit the data or it won’t. if sweden gets through this winter season ‘unremarkably’ then they are toast. they lied. they know they lied. they admitted they lied. the nudge unit was told to lie as was the bbc. the data from early on showed it was bollox

Steve, is she a social/moral and economic conservative? If so, she has my vote. Hell, I’ll go to war for her!

Ivor on Talk Radio now.

Thank you! Lovely way to start the day.

Have the editors of this site ever written anything about agenda 21? if not they are looking in the wrong direction.

Not that I recall, but plenty of comments below the line about it, all uncensored to my knowledge.

‘what we do is ongoing policy that feeds into decisions ministers take, which they consider alongside the health impacts, the social impacts, and they also consider the economic impact.”

They could have used a lot less words

‘we make it up as we go along’

what we do is ongoing policy

Based on what??
It’s not even clever bollox!

So the current narrative is that Vote Leave were the ones who bounced Boris into lockdown, he’s furious because the figures have fallen apart, and their grip on power has become untenable because he’s lost faith in their advice.

So why are we still in lockdown? Why hasn’t he announced it ending now, or in a week’s time, rather than it still running until Dec 1st?

Exactly. It’s always somebody else’s fault with Pfeffel.

“……until Dec 1st” I wouldn’t be surprised if he found an excuse to extend it into at least the new year!

He’ll be desperate to be the man who saved Xmas

Most probably until the next Davos meeting, where the plan for deportations will finally be discussed.

Last night I watched a live streamed concert featuring a top London orchestra. They already had to tweak the programme a bit as the conductor (American) and the soloist (Russian) couldn’t come due to our current insanity and instead the conductor was Finnish while the soloist was one of our homegrown talents.

While the programme and playing was superb, it was sad to see the orchestra playing to an empty hall almost devoid of human life.

What shocked me was when the conductor and soloist made their way to the stage, they were muzzled and then removed them when they started to play.

WTF???

Ah well….the virus is very intelligent then, it can catch you while you’re making your way to the stage but not while you’re playing an instrument or conducting.

It’s so obviously theatre and so disappointing that none of those who participate, who surely know it is theatre, push back.

I can’t watch tennis any more, partly because of the lack of spectators but mainly because of the muzzles – the players arrive with muzzles but then take them off to play (including when they sit down betwen games) then put them on again when finished, but the poor line judges and ballkids have to wear them all the time despite being miles away from anyone else.

Agree. That’s what really disappoints me about these orchestras, they hold out the begging bowl at every online concert but lack the balls to fight back and question the narrative. Imagine had all the major orchestras and ensembles even in London at the bare minimum announced that they weren’t going to kowtow to the insane diktats, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

If they’re fined refuse to pay and demand that it go to court. The government would be shitting at themselves because that could tie them up for the next 50,000 years.

Same here, I love tennis but cannot watch. My OH watches Grand Prix which is absolutely farcical, they mask + distance by 6 feet!? Only surprised they don’t have perspex screens as well – theatre is ALL it is.

And the snooker last week, referee masked, players not. Canned clapping at intervals from the non-existent crowd, that particularly irks me.

Why can’t the overwhelming majority of people see how absurd it is? Referee masked and players not? In what Universe does that make the remotest sense?

There was canned clapping, oohing, ahhing and the nonexistent crowd cheering throughout the National Hockey League Stanley Cup Playoffs. Even announcer voices announcing goals to an empty arena.

Do they social distance on track?

Its gross I refuse to watch anything like that…I would rather watch Borg and Connors on you tube. At least it reminds you of when the world was sane.

Oh, good grief.
I stopped watching those empty-hall concerts immediately after trying one from Berlin. It’s too sad. Same with the cricket in the summer… if there’s no crowd there, what’s the bloody point? It’s like “here’s a film of a tree falling unheard in the forest, which therefore didn’t happen.”

It isn’t a proper concert without the storm of coughs between movements, from people who’ve been saving up and/or want to show off that they know it’s the end of the movement but they shouldn’t applaud.

It isn’t a proper concert without the storm of coughs between movements, from people who’ve been saving up and/or want to show off that they know it’s the end of the movement but they shouldn’t applaud.

Exactly. It’s all part of the experience and why we go to concerts and there’s none of that at the moment.

Another televised PSY-OP.
Bastards

Empty hall would change the acoustic too.

As is anti-social distancing. I’ve read somewhere that many musicians are actually not happy about having to social distance as its said to have a negative impact on the sound and how they’re playing.

I used to enjoy classical music concerts but these pathetic pantomines drive me mad. Masks and concerts just do not go together. They might as well all go naked on stage it would not look any more daft.

Due to the latest community case in Auckland with an unknown origin of the infection. Rather ambitious now. Anyone, not just with flu symptoms, just cold symptoms, sniffles should rush for test and then rush home and isolate until they have result of the test. Not just Auckland but over the whole NZ . Does anyone think this could find 100 % of the infections?
 https://twitter.com/covid19nz/status/1327081497971474432 Anyone in the Auckland area, and indeed throughout New Zealand, who has cold or flu symptoms should get a test and stay at home until you have a negative test result.

I spoke to an NZ native (now living here) who thinks Saint Jacinda is doing a wonderful job, that life is normal in NZ, that their isolation is sustainable economically and socially, and that zero covid is achievable. Intelligent chap he is too.

Intelligent people can convince themselves of whatever they want to believe. I’m not going to say “I hope he’s proved wrong”, because I wish no ill to New Zealand. But it seems fairly obvious that the whole thing is at some point going to turn round and bite NZ and Jacinda in the backside. Sorry about that mental image.

“ I’m not going to say “I hope he’s proved wrong”, because I wish no ill to New Zealand .”

I am and I do, because they have chosen a path that is short term perceived gain for long term disaster and the longer they persist in it without suffering consequences, the more harm they do to the world by their example.

Maybe it is achievable in NZ but, if a sterilising vaccine doesn’t turn up, they are going to have to expose their population to the virus unless they stay locked down for ever.

Of course zero covid is possible on a small scale and time limited.

I have zero covid in my house. That doesn’t mean it’s possible throughout the world. At some point I have to leave my house or maybe even have people round.

It’s time for that Oscar Wilde quote again… “one would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh”

I have heard that Serbia legislated to make Covid vaccination compulsory yesterday with a package of heavy-handed measures and Germany votes next week.

The things countries will do just because they lost a penalty shootout.

Apparently Serbia did this in April and August as well.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-serbia-protests/fact-check-no-protests-or-announcement-in-serbia-about-mandatory-vaccinations-for-school-children-idUSKCN2581D2

https://www.poynter.org/?ifcn_misinformation=the-claim-that-profession-said-that-vaccinations-will-be-mandatory-otherwise-there-will-be-severe-consequences-against-those-who-refuse-to-vaccinate-children-and-whose-children-will-be-taken-away

Well, apparently was the final frontier.

Very good interview with Lionel Shriver:
https://audioboom.com/posts/7728704-hysteria-is-contagious-with-lionel-shriver
Discussion focuses on lockdowns from around 30:30.

And yet she voted Biden.. who will lockdown.

She did, but with a heavy heart.
I thought her rationale was sound.
Trump was a bit of a silly.

Lockdowns are the single most destructive thing inflicted on the world since WWII.

If a stray cat ran for office with ending lockdowns in its manifesto I would vote for it.

I’m sure my moggies would run the country better than Bors Badunov. They protest loudly if you shut them in and would never wear a mask!

If Trump is a bit silly then I guess it does make sense to vote for seriously evil.

She did so with a nose peg but she doesn’t like Kamala Harris.

She was very foolish to do so, if she did.

If she thinks the costs to the right of another four years of Trump would be anything approaching the costs of Biden followed almost inevitably by Harris in short order (months more likely than years), then either she hasn’t been paying proper attention to what is going on in the media and big tech, or she’s another victim of Trump Derangement. The latter very much exist on the right as well as on the left..

She has always been like that…it makes her look silly rather than Trump. Why rant about lockdown and woke identity politics and then vote for the party that wants it all. She just looks confused and not to be taken seriously.

You don’t think Biden will still be around on 20 January next year? Once the Electoral College has pronounced, he’s a goner.

If his heart (or mind) holds out till then, that is…

President Momala to you!

One of the inglorious Bastards are resigning at Christmas now for Johnson, Hancock, Witty,Vallance, Van Tam etc

Yorkshire ripper dies of covid.. yeah of course he did. With covid.. with a covid test…

Everyone dies with a covid test these days.

Lol, the wording on the BBC website. He refused treatment for covid and also had a number of other health problems. So he died of something else. “No, thanks, I don’t want treatment for covid, or gout, or Jumping Frenchman Disorder*. Wouldn’t mind treatment for the things I’ve got, though.”

*It exists. Google the “Jumping Frenchmen of Maine”. One of the symptoms is the propensity to obey any command given immediately, even if it’s manifestly absurd, like to strike a loved one. I think it’s a strong possibility that the British people are suffering from it on a mass scale.

how do you upload photos??

Sutcliffe had diabetis, respiratory problems, etc in July and wasn’t expected to last more than a couple of weeks

Sometimes you can just copy the source URL and it will paste.
Other times I have to save the image, then attach from my own image file, using the little picture icon, see bottom right of the comment box – you need to be logged in.

Should have been hanged years ago.

Interesting that one. What is a better punishment to be hung or to be alive every day knowing that you would never ever be released?

George Floyd tested positive too. Strangely he wasn’t reported as a Covid death

Imagine if we had only one covid death a day – and today it was him. Would the BBC still solemnly read out the death figure in the special sad voice…

Clair Craig’s article today very interesting. But is she absolutely right that there has not been a slight increase of total excess mortality  the last few weeks? At least Michael Levitt has some concerns.
 https://twitter.com/MLevitt_NP2013/status/1326905235370078211

You’re right. Any uptick won’t be detected yet.

I don’t understand Levitt’s comments. By now, we surely know that Covid-19 ‘cases’ scale with testing, and testing is going up. We also know that respiratory deaths go up in winter, and Covid-19 is being attributed to them all. We know about the ‘dry tinder’ effect after a previous mild winter. We also know that locking down the population and shutting down hospitals causes deaths – we are still seeing the consequences of the original ‘measures’. We don’t even know that mask wearing isn’t causing the spread of respiratory diseases (the Denmark study). We also know that excess death is very variable, clearly seen in the years before they invented Covid. To me, it looks as though it would be easy to create a ‘second wave’ that more-or-less showed up in a variety of statistics making it look like causation even though it was just correlation.

Elon Musk tweeted this a few hours ago:

“ Something extremely bogus is going on. Was tested for covid four times today. Two tests came back negative, two came back positive. Same machine, same test, same nurse. Rapid antigen test from BD.”

Now that IS important because millions of people listen to him. I wonder if he’ll be shut down…

Arnie.

Wow, that’s REALLY strange: only 50% false positives!

Since he doesn’t agree with lockdowns, maybe he could use some of his preposterous fortune doing something about it and countering the propaganda.

Interesting, just seen it in Mail online:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8945123/Elon-Musk-says-tested-positive-negative-twice-COVID-19-one-day.html

I posted late last night a article on ZeroHedge saying JP Morgan was warning against another lockdown vs Bank of America saying the opposite. This morning, the host on CNBC Squawk (Geoff Cuttmore) more or less arguing for Great Barrington. CNBC and Sky, both owned by Democrat-supporting ComCast, now shifting tack too?

Why would anyone be tested four times in a day?

Because he is an intelligent guy, has intellectual curiosity, and wanted to test the tests. Why did the FDA not do that experiment is the question that should be asked.

What took him so long?

Now that IS important because millions of people listen to him. I wonder if he’ll be shut down…

Arnie.

Anybody applying for the writing of the daily update 2-3 times a week? Sounds like a good opportunity for someone.

I would be interested but you have to do it through Facebook and I don’the do social media.

I went to my Facebook page two days ago and was greeted with a message that said my browser was unacceptable. Perhaps it wasn’t track and traceable?

Things are not going well in the bunker

The glories of past victories have turned to dust

The dictator doesn’t trust his generals anymore

The generals know the dictator the can’t stomach the truth. The generals don’t tell the dictator anything anymore they just nod in agreement

Some of the generals are making plans to escape the madness

The dictators only loyal ally is his fiancée

Can we expect wedding bells, or is that the sound of approaching tanks?

(Does anyone have the number of the RSPCA? If there is a German Sheppard in there it’s not to late to save it)

Oh well, not too late for the Final Solution: all Lockdown Sceptics must report to Platform 7, where free transport is waiting for you!

Don’t know about German shepherds, but there’s definitely a shitsu.

OMG Larry the Downing Street cat is in for a rough day!!

What about Dilyn? The jack russell.

the parenthesis is comedy gold

Spot the difference between these two BBC headlines:

Bobby Ball: Cannon & Ball star dies aged 76 after Covid-19 diagnosis

Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe dies

Yes, ‘Covid’ only gets mentioned for the good guy.

It was the headline in other trashy “newspapers”. However they fail to mention Sutcliffe was having a suspected heart attack. Also Eddie Large was in hospital with heart failure.

Clearly in the headlines on Talk Radio that I heard, and pushing the fact that he refused treatment for it. Sad that for somebody who was notorious in the wrong way, and thankfully most of us had forgotten about, is being used as a way to push Covid.

Makes me piggin sick Tommy

Put the radio on .It’s full of nonsense about covid killing Sutcliffe . A civilised society would of put a creature like that down as soon as we knew what he was responsible for ,but the truth is he died of heart failure and refused treatment because he became a jehovah witness

There is no cure for heart failure. Just symptom mitigation for a while.

Clare Craig gave a seriously important announcement yesterday on Julia H Brewers talk radio and seems to be following it up on twitter .If she is correct it will blow the death rate out the water and show the second wave pandemic is basically just down to false tests ,so why are we not concentrating on this important news? ie at least getting this information out to as many people as possible ,sending the video to our MP and anyone we know in the press or influential people who may support us.Until she is proven wrong and we have to take another tack this is the top sceptic news of the moment so why is it only given six lines on today’s page ?.Surely we should at least be trying to find out how true it is ? whether she has support from any of her peers ? or what the government response is ? . I think it’s great this site exists but i want to know about up to date news not about a guy getting in trouble for painting a pub six months ago ,not why everyone is a lefty and can we stop banging on about woke stuff ( yes woke people are fucking idiots but most people in the world don’t even know they exist ) . Lets stick to ending the lockdown by concentrating our strength where the goverment is weakest .

Spot on.

I thought the piece about the retired DI getting arrested was brilliant and an example/informative/reassuring for us all.

Scroll past, wat, scroll past. Different strokes for different folks, etc.

“ can we stop banging on about woke stuff ( yes woke people are fucking idiots but most people in the world don’t even know they exist ) ”

Yes, lockdown is the most urgent thing we are facing,. but it’s not necessarily the most important thing long term – more likely the problems we are experiencing now are another symptom of the underlying malaise.

As for “most people in the world don’t even know woke people exist”, perhaps you haven’t noticed that these “woke people” are running the country and are, day after day, further poisoning and corrupting our most vital institutions – most ominously, the enforcement agencies that will be used to physically suppress dissent when you finally do become actively concerned about what is happening. Don’t think “positive discrimination” is just about recruitment numbers either, it’s also about purging institutions of anyone with opinions offensive to the wokists in charge and recreating them without any loyalties to tradition, heritage, nation, people etc.

Toby has experienced the small beginnings of the future already, with his politically motivated “cancelling”, which is one reason why he’s unusually aware of the issue.

Maybe some now being demonised as “anti-vaxxers” will make them understand what was done to “racists” decades ago, maybe not. But we have been warned. We either learn from the warnings of history or we see them repeated upon us until it’s too late.

Scotland Yard must hire FORTY per cent of new recruits from BAME backgrounds under plan by top brass and Sadiq Khan
In an action plan unveiled today, Met commissioner Cressida Dick admits the force is ‘not free of discrimination, racism or bias’ and has vowed to eliminate it.

Sadiq Con.

cheer up folks-just watched the new John Lewis Christmas ad. Not normally my kind of thing but was immensely cheered by no social distancing and no masks.

how did that get past Ofcom?

On that basis if you share it on twitter or FB it could be banned for misleading information!

My favourite is the tesco one. That will definitely be playing on a loop in a hundred years in the museum of mass delusions, where kids find out about the collective insanity that was 2020, and their parents show them wedding pictures of great grandma wearing a muzzle, much to the bemusement of the bored kids.

I watched. It is truly pass the sick bag stuff. With woke dross like this no wonder the JL partnership are having financial woes.

Is it worse than Kevin the carrot from Aldi’s advert?

It’s Friday the 13th

I’m gonna wrap myself in clingfilm so I don’t get ‘it’

Don’t forget to cut airholes in it or you’ll catch your death from something else.

Yep I remembered the air holes

However no holes below the neck and I have just pooed myself

It’s messier in here than Downing Street

The autopsy will make good reading.

gulf war syndrome. caused by vaccines the troops were given in 1991 just before they invaded iraq.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/birth-defects-children-gulf-war-veterans/

“Government Muzzled Media on Birth Defects in Children of Gulf War Veterans
For more than 25 years, the VA and DOD have refused to acknowledge the abnormally high rates of birth defects among children of Gulf War veterans.”

Birth defects in children may well have been caused by Depleted Uranium. Iraq was full of it. The A10 aircraft fires DU rounds in their thousands. Anti tank rounds have DU penetrators. These rounds vaporize. Uranium is now everywhere.

Birth defect in Iraq within the population especially in Falluja sky-rocketed in those years. I still have the pictures in my chamber of horrors photo collection. Just for the record. You don’t want to see them. Ever.

I completely understand that the new adverts at the bottom of the page help to fund the site but can we get rid of the mask one please. I probably speak for everyone on here when I say that I don’t give a toss if it’s super comfortable, it’s still a bloody mask.

I quite like the idea of the site being ‘sponsored’ by mask sellers

Using their money to destroy their business appeals to my dark side

It could be straight out of the book of Cummings

Perhaps we should all rampantly click on the ads that we disagree with to force up the cost for those particular advertisers.

I like your thinking!

I have to admit that since I use an adblocker (mvpshosts to be precise), I have yet to see any of those adverts. That doesn’t mean that I don’t support Toby with donations, I do.

I’m still amazed that nearly all those choosing to hide their faces don’t just use a scarf, or similar. Why on earth are they still BUYING these things?

Why not swiss cheese, you can cover you face with it :), Probably offers the same protection as a mask; none.

If you eat it instead of chucking it on the ground, it won’t harm wildlife either!

So, the day it’s announced that nearly 140.000 people have waited over a year for hospital treatment, a record number of Covid ‘cases’ are announced. How convenient.

I’d like to know where they’re finding all these hundreds of thousands of people to be ‘tested’. Are there that many dopey sheep around? How many times have they each been tested? Who is actually collating the figures?
And do we even believe the figures? They could give out any numbers, and we’ve no way of checking to see if they’re genuine.
Perhaps they’re using the same software as the Dems did in the US election – you know, the software that ”flips” numbers into other columns at the touch of a button.

You are correct, we have absolutely no way of telling where these figures are coming from or even if they are true. The government could be making them and we wouldn’t know.

I was led to believe that you could only be tested if you had symptoms? Who wakes up one morning and says to themselves “I think I’ll go for a Covid test today” if you have no symptoms, why on earth would you? I’m still yet to see anybody at the test centre that I drive past nearly everyday.

i think there are thousands who do that. Students are tested by force, so that will account for over hundreds of thousands with the same amount testing in 15-20days so they ca go home ffs!

Whilst it is a scandal that no treasury forecast was made (one that the MSM will ignore just like Lockdown 1) I’m just as concerned about the statement from SAGE about exponential rise in cases. They obviously don’t understand what either of those terms really mean. It is clear to me that this think-tank of brains (the one that is driving a policy that is ruining peoples lives through a perpetual narrative of fear no matter how much they say they are apolitical) don’t even understand the basics of what they are talking about.

I think they know very well what exponential means, and know equally well what words they need to use to scare people

What he said. The Behavioural Insights Team will have done a great deal of study into this and will no doubt have a list of words to use and words to avoid to “get the right message across”.

Quite. How many ordinary people know that it simply means a rate of change proportional to the current size of the thing you are measuring.They don’t – it’s just a scary-sounding big word deliberately employed to imply that disaster is imminent.

It’s scripted! Whitty has often caught himself and hastily changed his speech to fit the narrative, eg. “the NHS, er, our fantastic NHS” etc.
Also using exactly the same wrong examples of viruses as Wankock, ie, Malaria and HIV.
Willing puppets.

I watched Question Time last night. Robin Shattock immunologist. Looked seriously ill from his skin colour. When he talked he used simple words and quite often got the order wrong or used the wrong word. I’d say he has early stage Alzheimers, I’m not doctor but my mum had it.Classic symptoms. Hancock on too, waving his hands around like a kid. Changing tack halfway through a sentence, as he clearly cannot engage brain before mouth. Trying to be charming. PR must have drilled him for hours. No serious questions from anyone. Don’t ask about Lamy’s contribution. Newsnight was shit so I’d turned over for a while. Utter bollocks.

I did notice that and at one point he said “we see the vaccine preventing lives”. He did not correct it. I recorded the clip as was so odd.

He also spoke of the safety of vaccines, and how a vaccine contains a small sample of the disease. However, and I’m not completely sure but isn’t the Pfizer vaccine using m-rna technology which is significantly different in its operation and, up until now, untested at a population level?

I believe this to be true. Can someone quote chapter and verse?

If true Wancock has just lied on national TV. This alone – apart from any of his other crimes – warrants instant dismissal.

Are the rebel tory MPs aware of this? There must be many who would like to see him bite the dust.

Again. . . he was asked about vitamin D in the HOC. He said they’d commissioned their own study, which showed it to be ineffective. No such study existed ( though I think there is one now). So can we add lying to Parliament? Aren’t there sanctions for such an insult?

And add the word ”unelected” to that description.

To comment further on the topic of futile but potentially dangerous mask wearing, I was struck by the following, posted by Tom Woods on his tom@tomwoods.com site a few days ago. As an ex Allied Health Professional who has experience of working in both NHS and Local Authority services to support children with disabilities I have been increasingly concerned by the fact that I have not heard this issue being discussed in any depth in the public domain.

Yesterday my email had to do with masks, a topic I haven’t discussed much except to note that the charts of health outcomes around the world don’t appear to back up the claim that they are particularly effective.

In response, I received this from a reader, and it really struck me:

I look forward to your emails every day to help me keep a sane perspective on this world. Your latest email below, however, struck such a chord with me that I just had to reply.

I am the mother of 3 children. Our youngest is 5 months old. Masks have been a very sore subject with me from the beginning for many reasons. Our oldest is 4 years old. His preschool teachers are required to wear them and our son is extremely troubled by them. He’s never seen his teachers’ faces! It’s a daily struggle to help him deal with this abnormal and disturbing world he all of a sudden lives in.

While this is endlessly upsetting for me, what has me even angrier is the world our baby has been born into. In her 5 months on this earth, aside from our family, she has never seen another human face! When we go out in public, she doesn’t know that there are human faces and perhaps a smile behind those ridiculous masks. She just sees figures wrapped up like mummies. What must she think of the world? What is she learning about her surroundings? To her, this dystopia is going to be “normal.”

Our baby is extremely alert and engaged, smiles in response to every smile she’s given, and studies our faces intently when we talk and sing to her. As a father, I know you know that this is how babies learn to talk and learn to communicate with facial expressions. Every parent knows this. Doesn’t it concern anyone else that millions of babies are being deprived in a significant way of this opportunity to learn and develop the way God intended? To flourish in the presence of normal human interaction? No one seems to think or care about the psychological and developmental damage these masks are doing to our children and babies. It makes me sick.

If teachers feel (or are told) that they MUST wear muzzles, then they should be see-through ones. There are plenty available. To hide their faces totally from young children is appalling.
All part of the Prole Control Programme. The little Proles must be brought up recognising the Sign of Subservience.
It’s dreadful, truly dreadful.

No one seems to think or care about the psychological and developmental damage these masks are doing to our children and babies.

Nope. People are too busy thinking of themselves and their virtue signalling to think about anything else.

I saw this a few weeks ago in a supermarket queue. This baby was fascinated by me and it me a few moments to figure out that I was the only person not wearing a mask.

I’ve had the same as well. I had a baby once in an underground carriage directing its focus at me because yes, I was the only person unmuzzled.

In this dismal world I had an encounter that made my day. I was shopping without a mask and 2 young ladies waved me in front of them at the till as I only had 3 items. Neither were wearing masks and one had her baby of approx 9 months sitting in the trolley. The baby was Downs Syndrome and sweet as hell and I bent and smiled and said ‘Hello’ (like the good old days) Neither women recoiled from me so I quietly muttered ‘Nice to see people without muzzles’ and one replied with ‘Me, too’ and a smile. I almost wept. I am 68 and feel like I am an undesirable living in 1930’s Germany. Today I went to the War Memorial and wondered at the hypocrisy of the wreaths for those who died for the freedoms we are giving away,

I so agree Mutineer, and with the other comments above. The continual hypocrisy, selfishness and virtue signalling of the pro maskers and pro lockdown people out there is so hard to stomach. None of them are truly thinking of others when they refuse to read and explore the alternative evidence and consider the impact these policies are having on the long term future of our children. In addition, the irony of wreath laying for freedoms hard fought for and won by our brave forbears, now trampled over by woke extremists and ignorant, cowardly parliamentarians who don’t care or listen to the people who elected them, is equally hard to bear. Their time will come.

I have long thought of the damage mask wearing is doing to very young children. I often watch the puzzlement on their faces.

So the Treasury did not even attempt to produce any forecasts in relation to the impact of ‘lockdown’ on the economy. How utterly depressing, and entirely in keeping with the jaw-dropping incompetence of this government.

What a complete and utter shambles.

It sounds seductive and feeds into the incompetence narrative until you realise that we are marching in lockstep with other major nations.
There is no way this happened;they know exactly what will happen during lockdown 2 because they have the evidence of lockdown 1.
They are preparing for the collapse of the £ while building our new digital currency.

Considering they have managed to brainwash, imprison/control and soon impoverish 60+ million people with such apparent ease it seems to me the are quite competent.

Well, when you put it like that! Paradoxically, this administration is both incompetent and competent.

How much more proof do we need to realise these puppets in government really are just puppets. We rarely get to see those pulling their strings because they hide in the shadows.

The government is not incompetent, they’re devious, dishonest and dangerous.

Guess who put this odious Government in office that’s right the ever so gormless & gullible British public go figure thank God for the SDP which I gladly joined in April

That’s a stupid argument. To label your fellow man ‘gormless & gullible’ fails to appreciate the nuance involved in why people voted for this government (not least the ‘Brexit’ issue), and it implies that you foresaw the type of large-scale incompetence we are now witnessing. No one could have foreseen this. It also implies other parties would have done better, when there is every reason to believe they would have done the same or worse.

Please drop this silly, sneering argument.

Thank God indeed that you and your SDP chums will never be in power.

I can’t wait for the next episode of the new comedy series based in Downing Street
‘At home with the Ceausescu’s’

I’m especially looking forward to the episode where cheers turn to boos.

And ends happily ever after in Târgoviște.

I will quote verbatim the text I’ve just received from the blood donor service: “You may be asked to wait outside the venue on arrival today to help maintain social distancing.
To avoid delay please arrive at your booked time,not earlier”
I minute, 10 seconds, a second too early?
After almost 47 years and 88 donations, this is really, really trying my patience now.

The simple is to say sod off and not donate again.

You have my admiration for sticking at it. As you know, I will not under the imposed conditions and possibly may never again.
You are very public spirited – the need for blood doesn’t go away because the PTB are terminally stupid.

Thank you Steph, I do truly appreciate it.

“Treasury made no forecast or Lockdown 2.0”

Debt doesn’t matter any more.

Hyperinflation/Currency Reform is coming.

The value of all current debt will be at least massively devalued, most probably wiped out.

….and with that debt the financial assets, which are the other side of the coin.

I can’t believe educated relative wealthy people cannot see what is happening.Leaders of all the major central banks are preparing for this out in the open.Whether we get a green reset is up for grabs but it is inevitable that we face a financial one.

Enemy, not an ally.

This is hardly encouraging!

Sir Charles Walker , the vice-chairman of the 1922 committee of backbench Conservative MPs, told The Telegraph: “The year 2021 needs to be a huge year for the Prime Minister and the Conservative Party.
“We need really to get on top of the virus through the vaccination programme , get the economy moving again so that it can create wealth and jobs, and prepare to host the COP26 climate conference when the eyes of the world will be on the UK.
“This is too good an opportunity to waste. The Prime Minister needs to put it to good use – and if he does, this could turn out to be a really good week.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/12/beginning-end-number-10-dominic-cummings/

Just got taken off one list and placed on the other list

FFS

We need to turn 2021 into the year of their arrest and trial otherwise we are totally screwed.

Terrible news. Utterly sold out (at least publicly) to coronapanic and assuming the PM will continue. If he really means it, he’s an idiot.

Sorry, Cheezilla. Had to downvote Walker – not you! At least he’s shown his true colours now,

Must have missed his dose of anti-psychotic medicine.

Caught ‘moderate’ gaslighting.

Unfortunately, sounds like someone who would be in favour of compulsory vaccinations and the Great Reset agenda.

I’m not sure it’s a sell out I think It’s more about striking a positive note and keeping semblance of cohesiveness in a situation that is crashing all around them politically or otherwise.

Positive or not, it’s definitely the wrong note!

Oh Ch-er-rist! I really thought he understood!!

The tories are just awful….no principles or consistency at all….dump them for good.

I can’t help noticing that in Fife all the boats are out of the water.
Is sailing banned? Is it because Sweden is too close?

Winter

RYA guidance

• Can I go boating?
• Yes, for exercise or for the purposes of open-air recreation, as long as you are doing so from a public outdoor place and that you are: –
• On your own
• With the people you live with (your household)
• With your support bubble
• With one person from another household – this could be a coach or instructor
• for 1:1 coaching/instructing
• Children under the age of five, as well as disabled people dependent on round-the- clock care, aren’t counted towards the limit on two people meeting outside.

There are bureaucrats sitting at their desks every day thinking up new restrictions. The Aussies call them wankers.

Notice Sage r blaming an up tick on cases yesterday on people s last minute rush to socialise before lockdown.
Typical .I would say this time most people are ignoring the rules, as they know lockdowns are a waste of time ,italy have cracked down hard again but it is making no difference and it wont here.

People need to take their lives back

Borisbullshit- meant to reply to you yesterday! I started blanking out those screens months ago, though at the moment I haven’t been going anywhere much. Are there new ones, or have they repurposed the ones that used to advertise events at the International Centre, teacher recruitment etc? But yes, it’s a waste of our money. Yesterday’s council email update was a poor attempt to spread fear. Apparently our ‘cases’ are now above national and regional average, but, they admit, we only have 47 patient with a positive test in the PRH and RSH together.

I think they are the same ones but they have been placed in different locations. Its always the same message ‘essential travel only’. It just makes you think big brother is watching you. I never thought i would live to see such things in Telford.

Just think of we had a really dangerous pandemic…would of saved a shit load of money on not bothering with propaganda, neat roll off the tongue slogans, funky signage, plastic shields, daily TV conferences, indoctrinating TV adverts, paying ‘influencers’ to brainwash us, useless PPE equipment, next to useless testing equipment the list goes on……

If we actually had a dangerous pandemic, there would be no marketing campaign except our own eyes and ears. Ebola epidemics never needed any.

% my friend

But this is CovEbola

CovEbolAIDS cause All The Very Clever Experts say there’s no natural immunity.

Like it. Take it to the top of the charts! Will add that to the other names I have for this benign for most people virus.

If it was a real pandemic they would be trying to get us to calm down not stoking up the fear. Shows what hogwash it all is. Stop testing healthy people and ditch the masks and barely anyone would be aware of it.

Apparently there is an electric tooth brush flying off the shelves in Aberdare

Problem: I’m not allowed to go to feckin Aberdare

You’re lucky then: shouldn’t somebody switch it off!?

Dare to go to feckin Aberdare.

Aberdare you!

The Samaritans have a prominent place on this newsletter. However sadly it looks as if they were paid off to say the following:

New data shows suicide rates during lockdown have not been impacted in the way many were concerned about

However, this still means that we must do everything we can to make sure people most at risk are getting the support they need in this tough times.

Simon’s comment:

This is disingenuous Samaritans

Your report shows that suicides have risen, but you have made the rather surprising leap of logic that this increase was not due to lockdown

Totally unacceptable!!! Maybe Toby should remove the Samaritans from this site?

I looked at the report yesterday. My interpretation is that yes, the trend was that rates were rising year on year so at this point it would be difficult to prove causation. However, I think Samaritans are beyond the pale for their statements. People get ground down over time, often because a series of negative life events follow each other (e.g. lose job, lose home, relationship breaks down, waiting forever for mental health support). The pressures will be mounting for so many and imo this is what they should be stressing.

Not surprised. There are very few charities left with credibility. They have nearly all become greedy corporate leaching blobs with no moral compass.

RSPB supports windmills and gets paid to.

Yep, you couldn’t make it up could you!

Currently reading the book below. There’s a strong argument in it that Greenpeace didn’t save the whales, it was the development of other better and cheaper oil based products. Recommended read.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691

Too busy suporting windmills to save raptors from the bloody grouse shooters.

I wonder if the chopped up birds support them?

If I am phoned by a charity call-centre, I ask them how much their CEO gets paid. If that amount is higher than what I was paid when I was working, I say to them “Ask your boss to put his/her hand in his/her pocket first”.

I was disgusted when I saw that. It’s the Samaritans’ version of “let them eat cake”

The charity sector have been disgraceful throughout this lockdown by their betrayal of their mission-vision and the people who needed their help. They don’t deserve to survive after this.

I think the charity shops have been very gestapo like. Many only allow one person in at a time and make the rest queue in the rain in masks. I used to enjoy going in them especially in a different town…..not been in one all year really.

Samaritans digging themselves into a hole…. when they responded to Simon’s initial tweet

These provide the best information that exists at the moment. They give us a reassuring indication, but we want government to prioritise putting a comprehensive nation-wide real time data system in place.

Simon:

Thanks for replying, but what does the below even mean?

How can an increase in suicides be reassuring?

I have seen several suicide hot line posters in Montreal metro stations in the past week. Every one of them was put up in the darkest corners along the quai, at the rear of the train or the the front of the train. None are anywhere near where majority of the passengers leave or enter the cars.

UK Column did a piece on this today:

https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-13th-november-2020

“It is now evident that Victoria in lockdown resembled 1970s East Germany more than a liberal democracy, and most Victorians seem happy with that. “

Well if there’s one potential upside to this disaster (assuming we can scrabble back from the brink of civil war or outright tyranny), it’s that more people might understand the real dangers of sacrificing necessary liberty for supposed safety.

There can be no more illusions that we are special, or that people collectively hate tyranny. On the contrary, most people – including Brits and Australians – are easily persuaded by fear or indoctrination to be quite happy with it, and it was not dislike of it that brought down any of the great tyrannies of the C20th. Economic failure did for some of them, military defeat the rest.

But the deeper warning is that such means relied on there being somewhere outside the tyranny to compare with economically, or to provide military resistance. A world government, de facto or de jure, sought by so many internationalists, has no “outside”.

Some have argued that communism is a religion pretending to be an economic system. Its just as well the economic system (central planning) does not work too well or the Eastern bloc would still be behind the Iron Curtain. Its sad in a way that it did not collapse because people hated tyranny…rather than through economic failure..but many clearly liked it just as here now many like the lockdowns.

After reading this from today’s Round-Up why on earth are these tests being given the time of day? Funny that now Belgium are only testing symptomatic people, their positivity rate is marching down.

“ False-positive COVID-19 results: hidden problems and costs ” – Good article in the Lancet on the problems with improper use of PCR tests

What and lose money for all of the fat cat CEO’s and MP’s

OK, something very strange going on with the positive tests by “specimen date”

There is always a ridiculously large jump every Thursday. This can only mean that specimens are batched up by some laboratories once a week and the specimen date actually includes a whole week’s worth of specimens:

4-5 Oct 11,787 to 16,548
11-12 Oct 12,068 to 15,455
18-19 Oct 14,183 to 25,588
25-26 Oct 15,733 to 26,542
1 – 2 Nov 15,744 to 31,466
8 – 9 Nov 19,681 to 27, 083

always followed by a drop back down
Any other explanations?

possible they are using an old version of excel. maybe they need to update their windows home license? maybe a couple of balls have fallen off the abacus. new chalk gets delivered thursdays? maybe a guy with 6 fingers does a double shift?

Thanks for laying that out. Very compelling story to fit the Friday drop of information this Government likes ?

Good observation

Whoops – those days are of course Mondays – so simply a weekend effect. The Thursday reported number may just be catching up

NHS Incentives for having the flu jab. How can this possibly be moral?

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1327161940402171905

Evidence 1

Edidence 2

Jab-o-meter WTF

Will be available as a board game by Christmas

You can just imagine MSM will be having a national daily one. Maybe even set compliance targets to relax certain rules.

‘Jab-o-meter’ WTAF!?

That along with ‘inject hope into the arms of people’ are two of the most chilling things I’ve read/heard during all of this insanity.

Inject dope into Matt’s arm.

Novichok would be more appropriate.

If only 54% of front-line NHS staff have had the “jab”, that says all you need to know about the level of safety with which the NHS staff regard the vaccine.

If the Fat Dictator proposed bombing Tier 3 areas, I bet the vast majority of useless MPs would vote for it casue SaGe SaYs eXpOnEnTiAl gRoWtH.

Sort of Tory Canyon (spoiler the FAA and RAF missed (18 out of 41 attempts) a massive super tanker stuck on rocks).

I’m not a Tory voter, but the bulk of the opposition is coming from them. If you hadn’t noticed.

Thoughts please. Is yesterday’s spike in ‘cases’, related to a spike in ‘covid deaths’ on 2 December?

nothing can create a spike in data apart from sampling issues or process issues (finding some old one, making a mistake etc)

if there was a rise associated with some behaviour change it would happen over days. not everyone takes exactly 5 days from infection to +ve test

I would largely ignore the ‘cases’ and go with the kcl tracker app – which attempts to get rid of false positives from testing

https://covid.joinzoe.com/data

I largely avoid the “cases” these days as a matter of principle.

It’s just a device for the Johnson junta to justify lockdown.

I ignore all mention of Covid spikes now, we know we are being scammed. I’m just waiting for these criminals to get their comeuppance.

Listen to Mark Windows Windows on the World. He suggests ways to ensure that these criminals will get their comeuppance.

Great comment on Twitter

The Covid Vaccine is predicted to be 90% effective after only 8 months of development, yet the flu vaccine is only 40% effective after 70 years of development.

I’ll go with my immune system, it’s 99.9% effective.

https://brandnewtube.com/v/384J3C

Will Life Ever Be The Same Again?

I bought the OH ‘Covid Jenga’ for Christmas

Every time someone pulls out the PCR block the whole thing comes crashing down

The bottom four rows must be entirely “case” blocks.

Police wanting to issue a fine of £5,000 to a ‘ car wash ‘ that is open. The person then told them but why is the ASDA car wash over the road open, the police said it has nothing to do with them.

More proof that this lockdown is intended to kill small independent businesses?

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1327187171565064193

She appears to be functioning at the intellectual level of an ameoba

Sadly most of them do! We are badly served by those in the public sector they enjoy the power but don’t have the intellect to use it wisely. Thick as mince!

One of the classic libertarian arguments against giving power to government.

Again and again we try to give power to government to control the behaviour of others we think are being stupid, only to find we’ve empowered some stupid person to do stupid things with the full force of government behind him.

Probably lower than an ameoba – a bacteria perhaps?

Just shows the hypocrisy and inconsistency, says that car washes are non essential but as the guy points out they service taxis, delivery vans and others who use cars for their business.

She was getting anxious and the mask can’t have helped. Heheheh!

Another foreign cop. Seems to be a pattern.

Perhaps not intended, but certainly the effect.

Dirty cars are not good for the environment.

Anyone not seen the latest from Media Bear ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9SEQMn0l58

Non of the shops are boarded up. How come?

Because they live in the US of A ?

How much longer can we pretend all this is about a mild flu like virus?

I’d say until the mass deployment of the “vaccine”

Funny isn’t it, that as soon as the DM start to highlight the cruelty inherent in the way older people are being treated in ‘care’ homes, the politicians/charities can’t wait to add their support.

I don’t recall them being so exercised previously. But as soon as there is a bandwagon, they’re falling over themselves to jump aboard.

And yet too thick to realise that many of the cruel treatment we’re seeing in care homes were the result of their insane Covid diktat.

The charities are a disgrace. Too busy being the mouthpiece of the state, regurgitating Covid and woke propaganda at the expense of their raison d’etre.

They deserve to go bust.

Music to my ears Bart. My view has always been that they are a bunch of crooks who take money for nothing. Wouldn’t give a penny to any of them. Sick of all these begging adverts.

What is really funny is that the moment a bit of public dissent starts brewing, the Conservative Party breeds a faction of “rebels” aligned with the dissenters. I don’t believe for a minute these people genuinely believe they are going to change government policy, however well intentioned they may be. And the Conservative Party uses them to keep unhappy conservatives onside with the illusion that they are being represented and influencing public policy.

Great post. Too little too late. Not much progress either.

Labour won’t be far behind, arch bandwagon jumpers.

It was surprising to hear an NHS England rep talk down daily numbers.

The big problem with all the numbers quoted breathlessly in the media is that no one bothers to looks at the underlying data which is readily available on the govt’s own website. With cases it should be by Specimen Date. As of yesterday the latest data was the early return from Wednesday (actual 1,405). This is artificially low obviously as data collection usually takes a few days. The highest daily figure in this “surge” was on 1st Nov (surprisingly a Sunday) when it reached 31,466. However the 7 day moving average latest peak was on 8th Nov (again a Sunday) with 23,668.

For deaths the headline number of 563 again is not useful as it pulls together many days reports of deaths by date of death. The latest date of death data is for 11th Nov when it was 125 (again artificially low due to collection timescales). The highest date of death was Monday 9th at 400. This will be revised over the next few days but there was an error yesterday when the numbers were first released just after 4:00 p.m. They were corrected around 8:00 p.m. The 7 day average has increased steadily over the past 3 weeks from c200 to c350 on Monday 9th but the curve is starting to flatten.

It would be some much better if the “journalists” actually spent a little time looking at the numbers before rushing off to get in first with the “news”

The number of deaths in relation to covid is more or less fiction given the vagueness of the criteria and the unreliablility of the tests

The only game in town is “are more people dying per head of population than usual for this time of year” where “usual” could be a recent average and also one should compare to peaks in the last few decades. In spring there was a spike which was significant, though the exact reasons for this are muddied by denial of treatment issues connected to lockdown/closing the NHS. Even given that, the spike was not sustained and now deaths are not exceptionally high for the year so far compared to other peaks in the last few decades. Is there currently anything exceptional happening to all-cause mortality here or anywhere else in Europe?

This simple message needs to be hammered home and arguably should be our ONLY message because engaging with the framework of fiction established by the covid industry hands them partial victory because they can just find some other way to fiddle the figures.

Rather than telling us to look at the 7-day average, which is a start, he needs to explain the relationship between the number of tests carried out and the number of “cases” i.e. the positivity rate. Number of cases alone is meaningless even if you do believe that they are really all “infections”. This is basic science and they should be crucified for not making it part of the daily update.

I’m intrigued by the announcement of Cumming’s departure. Does this mean that either:

a) Boris realises that the Goverment has painted itself in to a corner and it’s time for a change of direction?

or

b) Cummings is jumping ship because he knows it’s all going to end in tears?

Or maybe it’s just their bromance has ended.

Cummings may simply be bored of it. He was quite unwell I think and needed an operation which kept getting postponed, and he promised his wife he would quit at a certain point. I know none of that quite gels with his slightly psycho persona….

I think he came into govt thinking he was going to do loads, make everything great and be lauded as a genius.

covid happens and he was a lockdowner. if it dawns on anyone the mistake they’ve made, they’d have to get out. he may well have realised. I doubt he confines himself to the BBC and guardian

The question is: when is Boris going? A few months ago Cummings’s father ‘leaked’ a comment to a newspaper that Boris will leave by the end of the year….

There appears to be nothing of substance to that story whatever, just the hack pack repeating Laura Kuenssberg
“Dom is going !”
simply because he did not repudiate a blog entry from January saying he planned to have made himself redundant by Xmas.

Cue Barbara Streisand singing ‘The way we were’. Boohoohoo.

Respiratory conditions fallen off a cliff in the RCGP RSC network:

This chart must be coming from Putin!
No No IT CAN’T BE RIGHT….
Nooooooooo

Presumably there is a graph somewhere with covid on it, speeding skywards…

.

There is:

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZTU5ZDE5MGYtMzUzMy00ZjRmLTg4MGEtMTM3ZGJiZDNhODFkIiwidCI6IjZiOTAyNjkzLTEwNzQtNDBhYS05ZTIxLWQ4OTQ0NmEyZWJiNSIsImMiOjh9

Influenza-like illnesses. FFS!

Workplaces Could Bar Anti-Vaxxers If They Refuse Covid Jab, Tory MP Says

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/coronavirus-vaccine-work-tugendhat-tories_uk_5fad5e8fc5b635e9de9fe488

Anti-vaxxers who reject a safe coronavirus jab may not be allowed back into their physical workplace by their employers, a senior Tory MP has said.

—

1. Why are they so desperate to force people to take this?
2. Prove it is safe!!
3. Surely if it is so effective, people who take the jab will be immune from C19, right? So what’s the fucking problem?

‘safe’ is fine. I’ve had all my jabs and lots for travelling too. get back to me when you have 5 years data

Indeed. I’m not particularly eager to have this jab because I don’t see the point, covid is incredibly unlikely to harm me.

However, if it had been thoroughly tested over a proper timeframe and a country that I needed to visit made it a condition of entry, I’d weigh up the risks/benefits and probably have it.

The rushed development and suggestions that it should be compulsory to participate in normal life in my own country are what alarm me.

A proper time frame is 5 to 10 years. As soon as you have the jab you will be giving your assent to the possibility of it becoming compulsory.

The vaccine, none of them, make people immune. This is all political hard-line COVID Bollocks posturing.

Ahhh Tom Tuggen-Hat.
The hight priest of Toxic Tory Tuatology.

Or Nazi for short!

Labour would be better would they?

(I didn’t vote at the last election.)

No labour would not be better. All I am saying is Tom Tuggen-Hat is one toxic lying bastard.

Another Reservist who thinks he’s a Regular. (TT that is)

As a long-time Labour voter, I have to say ‘No’.

Starmer was manouevered into place as the safe establishment alternative to Johnson. Whatever Corbyn’s faults (and this isn’t a promo for him), the important point wasn’t his politics (fairly ordinary social democratic in terms of the post-war spectrum), it was that he was not on the same page as the underlying agenda that we have seen emerging under the Covid regime.

Thus the full weight of the propaganda machine was brought to bear, with the now commonly recognized techniques of falsification and omission (see the Groan coverage for vivid illustration of the establishment agenda).

Since his election, Starmer has fulfilled his inherited role in a multitude of ways, so that a future Labour government is no threat to the establishment agenda.

This puts a potential replacement government back in the safe, controlled position that Blair carved out, with a PLP that, as all have noted, has abandoned any real oppositional stance over Covid – to a man/woman.

Labour by not opposing the Conservatives lockdown policies is just as complicit.

Never vote for either party again

How about an optional (compulsory) vote for a one party state?
Or just reality tv voting and no pretence of any say in any decision as to your farmed status?

Ditto I see very little difference between them anyway. Its all make believe phoney theatre to make us think we live in a democracy.

Yes but not with Starmer rather his predecessor

The more they bully, intimidate and coerce people the more suspicious many will become. I personally no longer have any faith in the government and very little trust in the establishment. Many of these people seem outright evil.

MP @TomTugendhat wants discrimination in the workplace, restaurants, bars, venues etc

What about people with HIV? Normal flu? Common Cold?

Any other illnesses Tom that you think people should discriminate against?

Why not test for real dangerous pathogens too?
TB, Meningitis, Noro Virus, errrrr Rabies
why not stop there
drug tests,
STD tests
ummmm
Psychological profiling tests
lie detector tests
a test of values and beliefs
tests of morality levels

No sorry you failed the entry tests. Next please.
FFS

You can take rabies off the list as it’s not infectious between humans.

Don’t be taking the government’s excuses away from them. I can see a future lockdown being based on an escaped prisoner who has rabies and is highly contagious. Everyone in (Area X) must stay at home.

what if you are bitten by a zombie?

Especially Tuberculosis. That disease is still endemic in the countries from where a huge number of immigrants originate. Most NHS staff would tell you that.

TB and measles are two that spring to mind, both much more dangerous especially to children.

How about not allowing HIV positive people into nightclubs, in case they get carried away and “spread” it?

HIV is not an infectious disease.
Covid is based on much that was run out as HIV.
However, don’t let me pop your bubble!

Just proves it should be mandated for MPs.

No, only the ones who vocally insist we should all have it. Obviously this specimen is a case in point. Front of queue for you my lad. You can have mine or my NHS keyworker son’s.

They are desperate for people to take it because if nobody does then they cannot exit from this without looking like idiots

Sadly few of the sceptic bodies that I am aware of are taking up the fight on the vaccine – only Dolan really. The rest are being a bit soft. We need to seize the narrative on this because as far as I know the vaccine has NOT been measured for its effectiveness in reducing how infectious you are therefore any claims that need to vaccinate to protect others are speculative

As I understand it the vaccine does not make takers immune, it just lessens the symptoms; you remain potentially infectious.

Indeed. They have now changed their tune – in the past the vaccine was supposed to prevent the illness. With the so-called covid vaccine (that changes your genetics forever), they sell it as reducing the symptoms.

When considering whether to get this vaccine, people will have to weigh up the reducing of symptoms against the side effects, the fact that most people do not even notice that they got it, the survival rate of 99.7% and your genetics will have been tampered with forever with unknown ‘results’.

**Always do your own independent research before deciding whether to take a vaccine or prescribed drug and then make an informed decision whether to take it or not**

That’s the good news. Infectious humans must be vax-managed.
Immunity is built in. The fear and reactive defences all undermine it (us).

Okay. If you have one meal under one hair hanging a heavy sword

Will each employer have to provide a risk assessment as with masks?

Why not? Sounds like more of a waste of money.

They could just fit air-con units with UV filters to kill off airborne viruses, that would probably be more effective…

Strong UV lights in the toilets, set to come on when no motion is detected in the room and to go off when anyone enters the room; plus UV inserts in the water supply and aircon (as before).

Would do more good than most of the suggestions for forced medication.

Whether is is “safe” or not is entirely besides the point.

If you don’t want it (if and when “it” becomes available) then just say no.

You don’t have to justify your choices in life.

Until it becomes necessary to use public transport, enter a public park, go to hospital, travel abroad, go to a concert etc etc etc.

Who determines whether or not it is safe? A comparison to the usual timeline of vaccine development is pretty damning,

If you die or get disabled it is for the greater good!

No surprises at all, Australia has already announced a No Jab, No Job policy.
And oh any refuser is an anti-vaxxer now, good old made for MSM strawmanning.

Fight it don’t give in!

It’s called coercion and is illegal. In international law, too.

I’ve emailed the guy:

I am not an anti-vaxxer, but I am reluctant to take a “vaccine” that has not been through the usual testing regime and safeguards. I refer you to the failure of the Swine Flu vaccine in the Far East, another example of a rushed vaccine, and Thalidomide, an example of poor testing.

The assumption that people who are not vaccinated are somehow a threat to those who are, exposes the logical fallacy in your argument for coercing people into taking this “vaccine”. If people have taken it, presumably they are protected. If not, then what is the point in taking the vaccine?

I hope you realise coercing people into an unwanted medical intervention is illegal under international law. I can only conclude that your view coincides with that of some uncomfortable bedfellows. Given your surname, I find this surprising, to say the least.

We do not forget.

Do not allow the members of parliament inside until all of them have had a jab.

When this is over and the advisors and associated nutters are in hiding, we will need one of these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most-wanted_Iraqi_playing_cards

maybe list the top 52 (will be a struggle keeping it to that), some sort of vote, and get the cards procured in time for xmas.

warming to the theme, what about top trumps

Chris Witty
special skills – sweating
weakness – extrapolation
fear factor – off the scale

What the F happened to you “Libertarians”? Huddled around your on-line cocoa like a bunch of oppressed fishwives, moaning. Buckle down, rail at “Party” Patel et al, stick your nappies on your face and do whatever it takes to get back to your freedoms…. or break the law….which I am afraid to point out, you have little influence over despite screeds of doctrinaire faff posted here. We all take risks, its like crossing the road, bolloxing our livers or hunting tigers..go on, be free. Toby, Get a grip, this mob have become the moaning minnies you so deplore…..and you’re fast becoming one yourself

Which “libertarians” are these?

And to which “mob” do you refer?

Eh?

You do know defence cuts always follow a good job done by the Armed Forces for the government don’t you? How many will get paid off this time? How’s the weather in Berkshire today? Unlikely to reach 77 degrees F, methinks.

I’m having a mask exempt day in London tomorrow. What fun things can I do? My first thought is to go to Trafalgar Square and shout “End the lockdown.”

put a mask and tin-foil hat on Nelson’s statue

When the “swervers” run out into the road or try to climb a wall to avoid you, just walk closer to em; endless fun.

We love that game too

Re: the economic impact, did they lie to Parliament? I know many MPs couldn’t care a monkey’s tit about ruining and enslaving the public, but surely this affront to their collective dignity cannot be allowed to pass without challenge?

I fired off a response to my MP (Labour) who obviously voted for the Lockdown last week, needless to say I shoved in a few choice stats that showed them up. Also included some info from Prof. Allyson Pollock, who did a good job on the BBC trashing the test’s suitability for mass screening, and pointing out it does not diagnose infections, nor does it identify infectious people.
Quite obviously not expecting a lot to come of it but on the other hand – sooner or later one or two more MPS will surely have to face facts that they have been sold a lemon..

My local wildlife park has sent its annual email today inviting us to book animal experiences etc for Christmas gifts. Strange, I thought, they’re obviously closed at the moment and it seems unlikely they will be able to reopen much before Christmas.

Then I saw the small print: Due to lockdown, we are only taking bookings for Christmas 2021…

Pity that. I can think of a few people who would benefit enormously from an animal experience with, say, an underfed Bengal tiger – it might help them regain a sense of proportion as to what is and what isn’t dangerous.

It would be good for the tiger too. And make a great spectacle. Like that robot thing that belonged to the Sultan of Mysore, only real.

Just a thought about the ads now appearing below the line, as well as all the ads on Twitter, Facebook, etc. They don’t bother me at all, as it’s a way of monetising this site – and if it helps Toby keep going with this invaluable resource and platform, I’m all for it.

However, I’m equally for reporting ads when they are advertising masks, or anything which supports the current narrative, as offensive, misleading or fake news . It’s worth a few seconds of your time, and it sends a message in the language that social media understands.

Why COVID-19 Testing Is a Tragic Waste

Changing the cycle threshold from 40 cycles to 35 cycles eliminated about 43% of the positive results. Limiting it to 30 cycles eliminated a whopping 63%.

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A positive test is NOT a “case” — As explained by Dr. Lee Merritt in her August 2020 Doctors for Disaster Preparedness lecture, featured in “ How Medical Technocracy Made the Plandemic Possible ,” media and public health officials appear to have purposefully conflated “cases” or positive tests with the actual illness.

Medically speaking, a “case” refers to a sick person. It never ever referred to someone who had no symptoms of illness. Now all of a sudden, this well-established medical term, “case,” has been completely and arbitrarily redefined to mean someone who tested positive for the presence of viral RNA. As noted by Merritt, “That is not epidemiology. That’s fraud.”

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/11/13/covid-19-testing.aspx

In the summer Prof Carl Heneghan recommended 24 cycles.

Covid testing is the means by which Johnson and his criminal cartel justify lockdown. To them it is extremely useful, so it will go on.

Yep.
Even Fauci stated that above 35 the result is useless.
The UK, Germany&co all use 40+.
Nothing is standardized here yet, after 9 months!
Some tests search for the E gene sequence only instead of for the 2 others too, some omit the necessary confirmation phase after the search phase.
The primers seem to be important for the variance of results top.
Australia allegedly only uses 24 cycles, the NFL only 30: resulting in zero Covid.
But they know all that.
They know that the vaccines are rubbish, just reducing symptoms in a few cases, if at all, not infections.
As such, they are completely useless for countries with a zero Covid strategy-New Zealand, OZ, Scotland&co can never open up their borders and forego the concentration camp quarantines for inbound traffic on the basis of these vaccines. At most, they protect their own citizens travelling abroad a bit better from stronger symptoms if they caught it.
But these vaccines are their, and the brainwashed public’s, only way out of this.
So, they have to combine them with the only tool that can and will indeed end the plandemic: the PCR test, standardized as per the above and down to 24+/-cycles.
That way, they can credit the objectively useless vaccines, justify their disastrous lockdowns to wait for them strategies, continue to pursue their total control agendas and save face.
And unless we can expose this and that exposure surprisingly gained traction, they will write the history as such and most people will believe it.
Up until the catastrophes actually occur, the hyperinflations, sovereign debt defaults, depression and vaccine related damages and deaths.

“ Nothing is standardized here yet, after 9 months!”

… which is a give-away. Only a fraudulent procedure would ignore such an obvious flaw. Actions (or lack of) speak louder than words.

Now that scumbag Cummings has ****ed off, will the CPS get off of their arse and prosecute this slippery b*5tard for dangerous driving?

Evidence? He admitted live on national television that he went for a drive to test his eyes with his kids in the car and that any father would have done the same thing.

At least take his driving licence away!!

Are CPS staff too busy preparing prosecutions for vaccine deniers, gym owners, pubs, hairdressers and other small businesses that are just trying to feed their families and employ their staff?

Or have they all been furloughed because justice is no longer considered an essential service?

I just thought of a new three-word advertising slogan…

Arrest. Convict. Imprison

Except you can probably cut out the middle word

I like that a lot.

Well, if his prosecution serves to highlight the obvious fact that those in charge are not taking this seriously and reminds people that the piss is beng taken, then great, but it will probably turn out, like last time, to just be a huge distraction from the important business at hand.

I agree. They want us to look at anything and everything other than the stats and the erosion of liberty. Look, Cummings! Look, non-news about a vaccine that is nowhere near ready and impossible to roll out! Look, it’s not fair that some shops can open and others can’t! All smoke and mirrors.

Apologies if this has already been posted.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-pm-meets-bill-gates-discuss-implementing-global-vaccine-program
Well there we have it.

Glad I voted for Bill Gates in the last election. I think whatever party you put your cross next to, indirectly you were voting for people like this.

So 100% of voters basically voted for Bill Gates, make him King!

No.

I didn’t vote.

“Well you don’t count then” is the usual answer you get from people when you tell them this.

(I don’t agree by the way)

When I have not wanted to choose a particular candidate, I have gone to the polling station and written “none of the above” and followed with an explanation of why. I understand that the candidates have to be shown all spoiled ballots. I know they’ll barely glance but it makes me feel better

It’s still not Gates’ decision.

Are you seeking to excuse Johnson by pointing fingers at creepy Gates?

Johnson could very easily tell Gates to fuck off if he wanted to.

Johnson doesn’t tell Gates where to go because he likes vaccines, not because Gates is controlling him.

Indeed. Buck stops totally with him. He wanted the big job so now he must take the responsibility.
If by some miracle he realises that Dom has been pushing him too far and reduces measures we mustn’t ever forget or forgive. He has been lazy, uncritical and weak. He must be disappeared from public office forever.

He also likes money, as we heard weeks ago, that he couldn’t manage on his 150k. He has literally sold his country, talk about an antithesis of his hero. I never knew I could despise someone much – what an objectional human he is.

Don’t know how you made that illogical jump. Johnson is just out for glory as a ‘world leader’ ( ho ho). I find it disgusting that he is willing, eager to ruin the country in support of his personal agenda which is now clearly in focus.
But we have to realise that there are many, even maybe a majority in support of his actions. They see Gates as a wonderful philanthropist, just giving away his wealth for the benefit of everyone. We do not control the narrative, ‘they’ do, and until that changes we are continually running behind.
Unfortunately if a rather brash NY real estate guy who got to be POTUS can’t change it, we have a very long hard fight that may in the end be futile.

Johnson is just out for glory as a ‘world leader’

Thats the conclusion that I’m coming to. Just like many ruthlessly ambitious leaders (for e.g. Blair, Obama). Once they’ve been elected by the Proles, the next goal is to become an internationally revered statesman etc. How many times does Al Johnson say he wants the UK to be world leading in climate change, vaccines, test and trace etc. What he actually means is that HE wants to be perceived as the world leader in these things.

Boris Johnson: ‘The boy who wanted to be world king’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49088773

Note the remark to overcome ‘ vaccine hesitancy’. Send shivers down your spine? So he has decided that no normal will return until, at best, 2021. Why is no-one asking how he can determine this ( rhetoric question).

‘Vaccine hesitancy’ = ‘intelligence’.

… the last quality a totalitarian government wants amongst its population.

They may combine it with “climate change denialism” because we don’t want sense prevailing

He has become a Dictator. Depose him.

Just heard that Peter Sutcliffe aka the Yorkshire Ripper has died of you know what.

It is a tragedy, every life is precious. A stark warning indeed that we need to all double our efforts to eliminate this killer disease. Our thoughts and prayers are with Pete tonight, He was the people’s serial killer and will remain in our hearts forever.

He didnmt. dieof you know what. He died of heart disease but tested positive for Covvie. See later posts.

Old age????

In his seventies I think but good old underlying health conditions were also mentioned.

74.

Hope it was painful.

Probably “With it”