2020-11-17

Top o’ the morning.
https://twitter.com/DarrenPlymouth/status/1328422535680192512/photo/1

Dear Lockdown

You must write to your MP and ask them to stop the Great Reset
– If you’re writing to a Labour MP call it the Great Capitalist Reset

This Is How Great Reset Will End Western Democracies
Mahyar Tousi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk2W7rOFatg

And if writing to a Conservative MP, call it the Great Marxist Reset.

The left have totally hoodwinked by tbe Ahern, Biden, Tredeau types.

Wasn’t aware Bertie Ahern was a lockdown zealot: don’t you mean Jacinda Ardern ?

You forgot Madge Hancock’s hero, Chairman Kim Jong Dan of Victoria, Australia.

Yes.. agreed.. just like the Bolsheviks were with their Russian Revolution. The usual suspects were funding it and then pulled the rug when things quite go to plan. Bankers eh!.. who’d have em..

If writing to an MP, stick to the facts of what has been done and the implications for physical, mental, economic and social health.
Demand a change of course, but avoid triggers like “Reset” etc which might be counterproductive.

Keep it polite; keep it brief – better two shorter, narrowly focussed letters than one long rambling one.
Address the recipient correctly. Each MP’s preferred form of address is given as part of their contact information at https://members.parliament.uk/members/Commons

I was advised by one of my family who has to deal with MPs in a professional capacity to type a letter, print it, manually write the salutation “Dear <name>” , sign it, then scan and email (or post) it.
That’s the ideal – more work, but it’s the preferred standard.
It’s been working for me – so far.

Good advice.

Lengthy ranting is a waste of breath, time and energy.

The problem that I find is that MPs are so sucked into the narrative that unpicking their assumptions is difficult in a short space.

but the world economic forum call it The great Reset
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

MPs don’t work for us. They naively believe they’ve been promised a seat at the World Economic Forum’s table (they haven’t)

No, they’ll possibly pick up a few crumbs, but then they’ll be down and out just like the rest of us (if they have their way, which they won’t)

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2020/11/17/latest-news-196/#comment-250767&nbsp ;

A cartel monopolism has corrupted capitalism from the outset. It is a kind of corporate socialism that is overtly associated with Fascism, but can and does operate any and many faces or fronts – such as to exercise controlling interests through any and every vector of influence.
Part of its ability to set up polarised narrative identities, is the funding, and promoting of its own ‘opposition’.
Thus arenas of contained or open conflict feed a hidden third party.
The underlying pattern of such corruption is within us, even if manifesting as a world to which we are subjected.
The masking of grievance coupled in fear of pain of loss, presents the face of control, set in the judgements from which an identity is maintained.

To suppress corruption at the level of symptoms without addressing the underlying causes within us, is to persist in masking corruption in ever more insidious deceits of control – such as ‘the great reset’.

Corruption is firstly a false currency of identification. Evil is derivative.
The quickness to first accuse in the other, or to pre-empt their own frame of defence is a ‘woke’ facade of fear and guilt driven grievance that has all the power given it by fear, guilt and vengeance.
But awakening is the gift of noticing within the moment of the gift of a freely and naturally or spontaneously shared existence, and no personal claim at all.
The willingness to align in the grace of our being has to be desired despite the lock-down to a fear-defined sense of personal claim set over and against a life betrayed under self-illusory deceits – given priority.

My token MP would not see or read anything addressed him, nor grasp this if he did, but I can expand my sense of natural desire to root for his waking up to his true need in the way that he can begin to recognise, despite the seemingly overwhelming and inescapable sense of self, life and world that locks him in a masking necessity of conformity and compliance – even to lose the little that he hath.

However, what you write from your heart – you are extending as a gift of witness and communication regardless whether another accepts the gift now or later. What we give we strengthen in our selves. What we choose NOT to give, fades from non use. The idea of communication as leverage and weapon turns our own mind against itself (us). And so I write this in the spirit of a gift shared, to your freedom to alight in what resonates true for where you are now and what is relevant for who you are accepting yourself to be.

There is a ‘reset’ underway that the woke mask seeks to usurp and control.
Self-illusion yields to truth as a result of its own internal conflicts going forth and multiplying to the point of insanity and collapse. In which case we will not do more than persist the same themes under magical ‘redefinitions’ of leveraged ‘incentive’ unless we uncover them to a true resolution in the foundation of our being – which is a gift that knows itself in the sharing and cannot see in the idea of possession and control taken for a self set over and apart in judgement.

Hi Binra

You are obviously a CIM advocate. I would like to talk to you about this perspective. Can you email me please: jclfind@mac.com

Good afternoon Binra.

‘What we give we strengthen in our selves. What we choose NOT to give, fades from non use.’ This is lovely.

It is. Thanks

Dear Barney

** Denmark Says NO To Lockdown Law & Government Relent #PeoplePower **

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zadErfQ2pMY

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4436
Spending the equivalent of 77% of the NHS annual revenue budget on an unevaluated underdesigned national programme leading to a regressive, insufficiently supported intervention—in many cases for the wrong people—cannot be defended. The experience of the National Screening Committee and National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) tells us that allowing testing programmes to drift into use without the right system in place leads to a mess, and the more resources invested the bigger the mess.

and top of the morning to you too.
From a lovely sunny Thailand

but what will Thailand do without the tourists? Does its government buy into the great Reset or is it beginning to wake up?

Good morning to you Barney

New face mask that kills 90% of the Covid could be available by December.

The anti viral face cover features a fluid repellent outer layer which

“reduces the inhalation of droplets”( ).

There is also a copper lining which kills the virus if it comes into contact with it.

‘When will it be available to the buy (sic)?’
The masks go into production in late November and will be commercially available (£1.00 each) in December.

Brought to us by Dr Gareth Cave who is a nanotechnology expert and scientist at Nottingham Trent University.

Oh, and they also kill off 90% of the flu. Isn’t technology marvellous.

H/T ITV online >central>health>coronovirus.

A fluid repellent outer layer that inhibits the inhalation of droplets?
Droplets coming from another person, then.
But zombies wear the current face nappies so that their droplets can’t get out and travel to other people.
Obviously they are wasting their time – as if we didn’t know.
Copper, BTW, is toxic at more than minimal levels in the human body. I don’t know if having it clamped over your mouth and nose is a good idea or not.

Hence the quotation marks and ( ) Annie.

Yuk, indeed.

Let’s guess ”not” to be on the safe side.

They’ve stubbornly ignored my patent for a facemask that will actually prevent infection, using a simple impregnation with napalm and a free lighter with every mask.

Is this not a backhanded way of confirming that masks don’t work?

DO NOT COVER YOUR SOURCE OF OXYGEN!

I wonder if people muzzled up to the eyeballs in the open air ever consider that people with respiratory problems are given oxygen.

Nature got there first.
Silk is hydrophobic and contains copper, to stop the baby silk worm from getting diseased and going mouldy.
Silk has also been used for sutures, as it eventually dissolves in the body. By contrast, cotton absorbs moisture and grows fungi, and as for microplastics, inhaling these is not good for you long term.
Moral – the Government should issue us all with free Hermes scarves, which would be much cheaper than the current measures.

The Egyptians knew a thing or two about the medical efficacy of copper but I don’t recall if it’s effective against virus, bacteria or both.

Like the copper doorknobs in hospitals that were replaced with stainless steel ones.

And cruise ships.

So, after all these months I’ve been inveighing against the mask law, it seems there really is a way to persuade me to accept the barmy practice with enthusiasm! Yes, kindly deliver my state-issue Hermes scarf. I’ll have the Jardins de Soie Shawl 140 in vert/rose/blanc (£880), please.

She had won the victory over herself. She loved Matt Hancock.

Can I have my tax payer funded face covering in the form of a full set of shirts, underwear, pyjamas and bedding, please?

Still not going to put it over my face, though.

Fie upon thee, selling thy soul to an Rsoul for a silk scarf!
Actually £880 per head would be a bargain, compared with the billions squandered on useless testing.

Well, the old champagne socialists used to say that under communism, every car would be a Rolls Royce. Looks like every scarf will be a Hermes scarf as well!

There is no virus

There is – but the hype is infinitely more dangerous.

How do you know there is a virus, where’s your proof or is it just belief?

You may be better to use terrain theory to contextualise what you may believe you are saying but which will not be received.

Psycho-pathological anthropomorphism is the miraculous capacity of mind-extending or projecting meanings – that are self-attacking contradictory or insane, as a means to construct a world from doublethink as if a unity – set in and of itself – rather than inhering or inheriting its qualities directly – or miraculously – as in unself-conscious joy that need take no thought for itself.

The mind-virus underpins the way we see ourselves, each other and our world.
Interpreting all things to a dogmatically held masking narrative by which we think to aggrandise, save or protect our ‘self’.

This is obvious to that the humans are the virus being ‘controlled’ – and inducement to fear and guilt is the underling directive backed by coercion and threat, under masking in ‘concern’ that conceal an immediate outrage if openly challenged.
The love that turns to hate is not love, but the masking over a hate that cannot abide itself.
I will not say there is no hate, toxic thinking or evil, but that these are derivatives of a profound mis-identification, running headless – or rather running ahead without any real relational connection to its terrain – and therefore pathological or limiting and destructive to life.

The belief that any virus is in and of itself ’cause’ is false.
But as a cover story or mask over toxic debt is deemed too big to fail and so is always fed with more sacrifice rather than released to allow a true re-evaluation.
Our model or narrative filters, distorts or determines what we perceive and sets the range of our response.

‘The love that turns to hate is not love, but the masking over a hate that cannot abide itself.’ As when the covid zealots issue fluffy injunctions to ‘be kind’ before trying to force a mask over my face by law and shouting at me in public when I don’t comply.

There is also a copper lining which kills the virus if it comes into contact with it.

The virus isn’t alive. One cannot kill something that is not alive.

Don’t shoot the messenger please Steve.

OK, I think “ destroys the virus” would be a better phrasing.

Apartheid Britain

“Please pay at the window if you don’t have a face covering”

Shame on you (major supermarket petrol station). The blurry bit in the attached image explains that face coverings are mandatory unless you are exempt or have reasonable excuse not to.

Naturally I ignored this demand to be a second class citizen and the staff couldn’t care less.

Good for you. Maybe it’s time to boycott this gas station?

Maybe it’s time to stop calling them ‘gas’ stations…

Well, an American would say ‘gas station’, whereas I would probably just say ‘garage’. So what though? Here’s a good book on British and American English variants, beautifully written, and one which explodes a lot of myths: http://www.theprodigaltongue.com

From the marvellous etymonline.com:

gasoline (n.)
“light, volatile liquid obtained from distillation of petroleum,” 1864, a variant of gasolene (from 1863 in Britain), which apparently was a trade name at first, from gas (n.1) in its then-popular loose sense of “compound of gases used for illuminating and heating purposes;”

So the British used it first. Frankly, if manoeuvre turned to maneuver and fulfil to fulfill, overnight, I couldn’t care less. Freedom is more important than supposed purity of spelling.

Nice find. Thanks for the terrific link! The vocabulary between the two great variants seems to differ more than average in the area of transport. My American relatives smile at my use of ‘bonnet’, for example.

My American friend didn’t know what a ‘lorry’ was.
You’ve got to forgive them: they are only ex-colonials.

My driving instructor always used the word ‘gas’ because it took less time to say, and fast reactions were of the essence when teaching somebody like me to handle a potentially lethal machine.

The problem with using “gas” to mean motor fuel is that it’s inconsistent with the long-established terminology of solid, liquid, gas for the three phases of matter.

The problem with using ‘garage’ to mean a place that sells petrol is that it’s inconsistent with the long-established meaning “A building or indoor space in which to park or keep a motor vehicle”.

How do the British manage not to get completely mixed up, and confuse one with the other, going out to look for petrol in their garages?

Thanks, looks good, on the Christmas list

I thought so, there are a lot of books out there on ‘popular linguistics’, and an awful lot of them are pretty dire. This one struck me as an exception. (BTW I am not on any commission from the author! LOL).

which supermarket?

Another one with a death wish.

Boycott!

My local Shell garage has had the same sign up since masks were made “mandatory”. I’ve never seen anyone pay it the slightest heed.

Do they want the money or don’t they?

You get the petrol before they get the money.

more about arse-covering than face-covering

That would make a good sign. ‘Help us cover our arses by covering your faces. Thank you.’

I always said and still maintain that Sweden got it right. Time will prove them right.

They did, but as I said before they got it right mostly by accident. It now seems that the Social Democrat blob is reverting to type.

And we got it wrong deliberately.

Yes

Do you think their new zeal for lockdowns is connected to the fact that Amazon Sweden was launched less than a month ago? Amazon must make a lot of money from lockdowns.

Can everyone confirm that I’m not mad?

Am I right in thinking that the fundamental issue is that this virus just isn’t that serious?

I say no. I think the fundamental issue is that serious or not, the way to deal with the virus was not to shut down the world and destroy the economy.

Of course, but to do it for this one is even more crazy.

Unless you are an ardent depopulationist à la Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab.

I think the fundamental issue is whether the state has the right to over ride peoples ability to make their own judgements. All the rest of the evils follow from this with no limit in sight…eg possible forced vaccinations etc.

The virus is clearly no more serious than seasonal flu. Also the death toll put down to Cocid-19 has been rigged from day one. Now why would they want that? It’s not just about wasting millions on useless tests and dodgy tests and thee is clearly a much bigger agenda at work. The Great Reset is simply another name for Depopulation.

Unless you are over 80 and at deaths door already you have a much greater chance of dying in a road traffic accident.

Correct, you are not mad and there are many people who will agree with you. As a later post says if you are over 80 then you may have a cause to be worried.

Apparently here in Thailand we have had 60 deaths so far from Covid-19. That is the average death toll on the roads PER DAY – it was 73 in one day last week.

Covid has irrefutably saved lives in Thailand. Nationwide road deaths during Songkran average 350. Songkran was cancelled. So it saved about 300 lives.
On the other hand, of course, the number of excess deaths from people being driven into poverty will dwarf that figure.

Well that wasn’t what they intended – maybe someone should draw that to their attention – they’ve accidentally stopped de-populating the planet!

The vaccines are intended to fix that oversight.

If you are over 80, then you are on the last bus anyway, so why worry about the ephemeral coronavirus, which is less lethal than flu.

I know several over-80s – and no, they’re NOT afraid of the virus. (Especially the ones who are still playing tennis and cycling every day.) They ARE afraid of the last bit of their lives being blighted by this disgraceful bunch of self-serving, smug b*ggers who ”rule” us. They’re afraid of separation from their families, either through illness or just ”rules”. THAT’s what scares them.

I doubt very much if there are many grannies who’d mind being killed by their families if it meant they could be with them in their final days.

Yes indeed, to all of that.

I know of a family of smug b*ggers who love Boris Johnson and who endorse lockdowns but who have consistently broken lockdown rules from the beginning. They see no irony.

What’s the betting that the pro-lockdown TV celebs, politicians, police who’ve arrested the unmasked, journalists and Piers Morgan break the rules at Christmas

I agree with you. And I think that issue was swamped a long time ago by all the secondary discussions. Even the most sceptical commentators slip in qualifiers about “of course this is a deadly virus”. The discourse has been distorted beyond repair.

I expect that Galileo felt it necessary to Praise the Lord before expounding his heretical beliefs.

These are the “facts” that Obama was wittering on about the other day.

Does anyone listen to Obama?

You, me and all sceptics are sane, but the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

Asking that question is proof of your sanity.

You’re not mad, it’s all the other buggers who are.

But it’s not about the virus

Of course. Which makes lip service to the stupid rules a collaboration with evil?

Yep, but the moment you question it, you get the accusations thrown at you of ‘granny killing’, ‘conspiracy theorist’ and told that you should go on the frontline etc. Perhaps we should be focussing on the destruction of civil liberties, freedom of speech and the decimation of or economic and social structure. How people cannot see this still staggers me beyond belief.

Interesting flag you’re waving. What’s the bit in the middle – the Isle of Man?

The REAL virus is HUMAN FEAR. Look at the hideous ways in which virusphobic people are wishing harm On those of us who tell the truth. “Hope you get it and don’t get a ventilator”, “when you kill your grandparents maybe you’ll be sorry”, “wear a fucking mask, stupid”… all REAL quotes on social media. Frightened people pose the greatest threat to us right now. Too frightened to open their eyes and ears to the truth. Fear of others. That is what has led to every war in human history. History repeats itself. Again and again and again. We are at the start of WW3. Without a doubt.

It’s funny how people who are spreading the fear, like Neil Ferguson have broken the rules to meet their married lover

Pro-lockdowners are some of the biggest hypocrites

2020 sanity test:

Shrink : (Places hacksaw in front of patient) “CUT YOUR ARM OFF NOW”

Patient : No!

Shrink : You did not follow orders, you are insane.

I think you’re right that the virus is no worse than many other flu viruses BUT the shocking level of wasteful spending is serious.

77% of annual NHS budget (approx £100B) will be wasted over Xmas in (so called) testing using unsuitable methods. Just to generate false positives!

But worse, will our country be able to fund the NHS, the armed forces, schools etc in prospect of future annual false pandemics? When will the credit card be maxxed?

Research The Great Reset, Bill Gates, China’s social credit system.. And it will all begin to make terrible sense – unfortunately

If people don’t know by now, that Bill Gates is at the very heart of the Covid fiasco, then just what have they been doing all their lives?

From the number of up-votes you got for that question, I’d guess that just about everyone here is with you!

From Toby’s piece about students away at University testing positive but being included in their hometown cases.

About a month ago there were widespread revelations that students were being included in both their home town and at their university location so each positive student counted as two cases.

Double plus good!

I think we can be certain that the “cases” recorded at home won’t have been deducted, they will just have been double counted. It does provide further evidence that London has achieved effective community immunity though which is a positive.

A bit like them being registered to vote at home and the university. Back when he was at university, the whole cohort were registered by the university without any action on the part of the student. He was never that politically motivated but being so close to home he could easily have managed 2 votes in one day.

I did that once. Travelling from home in Yorkshire back to Uni in Reading! Voted in both places. Heh heh!

weekly emails from local council would provide counts of “infections” and would specifically mention the numbers attributed to students who lived in the area, who had been tested away at university, which were included in the local totals

I asked my local council covid advisory panel medical twat about students being counted twice when away at university.
Cases in our area in the 16-25 age group was the highest in the area over the last few months which was…. weird not surprising.
I am not at all sure I will get an answer but perhaps I rattled a tree with my questions and just perhaps one of them picked up the big red telephone and got those student counts looked at properly.
They are idiots mind you, that is clear.

Something else about the Schlieffen Plan.
It coldly and deliberately envisaged the violation of Belgian neutrality, which Prussia, the forerunner state of Germany, had undertaken to respect under the 1839 Treaty of London.
In 1914, Belgium was invaded and occupied. The invasion force was instructed to treat the population with atrocious brutality in order to induce terror and eliminate resistance.
Germany was obsessed by an unfounded fear of. ‘encirclement’ and was determined to get its retaliation in first.
Bad faith, deceit, cruelty, panic: Wancock and his gang would have felt quite at home in 1914 Germany, though not quite so much in their element as in 1939 Germany.

Encirclement is always a danger for Germany. Bismarck spent twenty years pursuing unification while avoiding it, with brilliant deviousness in diplomacy. Once the pilot was dropped, arrogance ruled the day.

That’s right and Bismarck knew that France would do its utmost to exact revenge and regain Alsace-Lorraine. That’s why he built alliances such as the Three Emperors’ League and one with the Austro-Hungarian empire to neutralise the French threat. Of course it also benefited him too that Britain was engaged in a policy of “splendid isolation”

IIRC Bismarck wanted to let France keep Alsace-Lorraine (because he knew taking it would make France a long-term enemy of Germany) but was overruled by a Kaiser anxious to please jingoistic public opinion.

Austria-Hungary was actually part of the Three Emperors’ League, but that alliance fell apart when Austria-Hungary and Russia came into conflict over the Balkans.

Looks like Bismarck was right. There was a monument in France that was draped in black after the Franco-Prussian War owing to the loss of Alsace-Lorraine and it only came down when the two provinces again became part of France in 1919.

As for the second bit, that’s what I was going to say but don’t why it came out the way I typed it. DOH!!!

The observation by Guy de la Bedoyere about the need of the Germans to follow the Schleiffen Plan being comparable to the overeaction to covid by governments throughout the world follows the wonderful and erudite A.J.P. Taylor in the 1970s.

He goes further back (on topic still), it was the pre-planning by all the major powers and in particular the reliance on the technology of the time particularly railways that made avoiding general war impossible even before the war had begun.

The parallel between pre covid ‘Pandemic Planning causing disproportionate lockdowns and the Army mobilizations in 1914 causing WW1 could not be clearer.

Youtuber Major Esterhazy

The Outbreak of the The First World War
A.J.P. Taylor How Wars Begin 1977.

30 mins, the relevant stuff starts after ten minutes.

Further to Annie’s remarks about the atrocities committed by the Germans while undeniably true the authorities on all sides initiated psy ops on their populations based on ever more lurid claims of atrocities committed by their enemies.

Historians like to blame Nationalism for WW1 in fact it was those same Psy Ops that whipped up nationalist outrage as a result of war, not its cause.
Another Covid lockdown parallel.

You’re right about the lurid claims. But the German atrocities were real.

Germany invaded neutral Belgium on 4 August 1914 . From the next day, civilians were executed en masse, as the invasion force advanced on its first obstacle, the ring of forts around Liège. To retaliate for the shelling from these forts, the German troops rounded up inhabitants of surrounding villages. Victims were selected and shot, those still alive being killed off with bayonets. By 8 August, nearly 850 civilians were dead. By then, several of the dynamics of this particular type of violence had fully emerged. First, the massacres occurred where the invading army suffered setbacks; the German military did not consider Belgium’s military defence to be legitimate. Second, the victims were accused, incorrectly, of being franc-tireurs (civilian snipers). Most of the German rank and file genuinely believed that the locals were attacking them; this sniper delusion was sometimes countered by the commanding officers, sometimes not. Third, there were women, children and old men among the victims but the vast majority were men of military age. These were more likely to be suspected of sniping; moreover, the invading troops resented them for still enjoying the civilian life that they themselves had so recently been torn from. Fourth, and last, the massacres went together with rituals designed to show civilians how helpless they were. People were made to cheer the troops; local dignitaries (mayors, priests) were publicly mistreated, in some cases killed.

https://www.bl.uk/world-war-one/articles/civilian-atrocities-german-1914

LD folk will draw parallels.

very scary indeed

Edward Bernays had been perfecting mass marketing brainwashing in about 1910. He was known for persuading women to smoke cigarettes in huge numbers by selling them as “freedom torches” and how they were a signal of the emancipation of women.

This new fangled propaganda tool, or using the new mass media (cinema) and magazines presented the opportunity to roll out mass brainwashing.

I guess because it was brand new, an unknown force and applied with brutish clumsiness it is why WW1 and WW2 resulted in the anti-human carnage that ensued.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

Well the Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was not the cause. That was on the front page of UK papers for one day, day two it was the inside pages and by day 3 it had gone.

It was the planning that caused WW1 and it was the planning that created lockdown.

I like the WW1 analogies but I think what we have now is more like 1917 than 1914. It’s grinding on and and on into lunacy, but those in power won’t stop because they can’t back down and there are too many vested interests involved, either wanting to make money or use the war to force societal change. Remember that the poet Siegfried Sassoon, one of the few high-profile soldiers to speak out against the war, was persuaded to commit himself to a mental institution to avoid court-martial.

Very quickly the War Aim of all the powers became the same.

To not lose.

As has been said above, the aim of the lockdown merchants is simply to not lose face.

“ MPs are demanding children are excluded so traditional family Christmases can go ahead”

tl;dr – MPs continue to fiddle about while Rome burns.

Exclude children, enjoy Christmas…

He meant excluded from the ludicrous Rule Of 6 I expect.

Sure, only joking.

Hahahaha!!

100% right. It’s not a traditional Christmas in my house if you have to limit it to six adults!

It has always been the plan to exclude children from the rule of six. The only question is when to announce it for maximum political benefit.

So. In today’s list of pieces we have had news of a new ‘hate speech’ law (just call it censorship) being proposed in England with a penalty of 7 years in jail. Funny, Scotland were also pushing for the same thing, coincidence? I don’t think so. I wonder what else they will be trying to sneak in while everyone is focused on the flu…sorry ‘covid19`!

Then we hear of AI dealing with vaccine issues, not good and AI is routinely warned against and for good reason.

Slowly like the frog in increasingly hot water we are being herded towards our collective demise.

What worries me more is the likes of JHB etc being pro-vaccine for covid as if it undoes allll the many issues that we have experienced since this overblown farce came into public consciousness.

Why is the focus not on the recovery from the deliberate devastation we have been put in. Where is the chat about that? Talking about cases etc is exactly what the govt wants us to do as it distracts us from the real issues.

Let us call it for what it is, covid19 is about as dangerous as the flu. I’m sure many being tested positive is for this reason. Other coronavirus are not being tracked in the same way so who is to say that isn’t ehat we are picking up.

NO MASKS, NO LOCKDOWNS!

Perhaps the Covid Recovery Group would be better called the Lockdown Recovery Group.

Definitely!

AI or artificial intelligence is a phrase like algorithm much bandied about by people who

A) Have never had to specify or create a decision tree for a program or suite of programs
B) Wish to hide the fact that ALL these decisions are made by human beings usually with an agenda

If anyone is wondering why Sweden is now introducing ‘measures’ similar to that of other countries need to look hard in the mirror and realise that all of this is a plan. One by one we will all fall in line as we are collectively weak and won’t do anything as long as we think it will mean we are left alone.

The human condition is to adapt, it also that condition that will lead to our collective demise, ‘they’ know it. We’re too bothered by what’s on social media to care.

Don’t start moaning when it’s all taken away and even posts like this will come with repurcussions for ‘violations’.
Gulags aren’t required in a digital age.

The inner skeptic in me as always wondered whether Sweden was “allowed” to follow Anders Tegnell’s logical plan for the reason that a minimal amount of research would have shown that the casualties from any respiratory illness was always going to be much higher than it’s Nordic neighbours and would hence give credibility to the assertion that Lockdowns work. Even before the LD in March when cases were already much higher in Sweden, it was known that the previous season had seen very low flu casualties (dry tinder) and the pollution maps, the huge nursing homes and other factors could have predicted the higher death rates with some certainty.

Alternatively maybe Swedish politicians are subject to the same pressures as leaders everywhere else, and Swedish people are susceptible to panic, and irrational fear/obsession that “something must be done”, and their media like a good doom story.

I agree. This change signifies a move away from a reasonable scientific approach to a political one. Whether that’s because of pressure on politicians from without or within It can only go downhill from there with masks, etc. an inevitability.

Yes this. The politicians have now taken over and is a perfect example of why politicians shouldn’t get involved in things they know very little about. This whole thing has been political everywhere else and Sweden is bowing to the international pressure of ‘being on the right side’. They are probably worried about Swedens international reputation and probably been lent on by powerful forces or interests who are threatening (already started) to ruin that reputation for them.

Probably economic vulnerability made evident.

The WHO u-turn on face nappies was a response to political pressure. Who’s pulling the political strings ……….?

Cases cases everywhere.

The problem is always the PCR casedemic and the shared view among ill informed ministers across Europe that it has any basis in reality. The fear agenda relies on it and it seems to be a drag net on such weak individuals.

Bribes, blackmail or coercion more like. The destruction of the economy that’s happening globally will harm and kill millions for generations to come

I can’t believe that all politicians want to do this, because history will hold them responsible

Why did the Nordic countries other than Sweden do so much better than the countries of core Europe (even Germany), even though they didn’t lock down to the same degree?

It’s also possible that just by chance they had picked a health minister who was a thoughtful adult instead of another monstrous politico-administrative type.

I think Sweden’s change of heart is more down to the belief that we’re now only a few months away from a vaccine, and that the people and economy will tolerate a 6-month lockdown when they wouldn’t have tolerated a 14-month lockdown.

I predicted this

I knew it would happen, because a global Covid Cabal is in charge. Governments are not in charge

Every country is under occupation

It’s because the Covid Cabal leaned on them. (The WEF, banks, UN, Pharma, Gates etc)

Most prisoners sentenced by a court in the UK serve a third of their sentences

We have all been banged up for eight months now

That is the equivalent of being sent down for 2 years by a court

These length of sentences are usually reserved for serious offences such as grevious bodily harm

Might as well get hung for a sheep as for a lamb

We have nothing left to lose

Prisoners still have Association and communal dining while many of the general population remain in solitary confinement.

they could require us to be rogered in the showers… (in Tier 4 regs, I suspect)

A while ago Toby or a colleague posted a whistleblower’s news about massive staff shortfalls in some NHS regions. This I think was down to the inadequacies of test and trace getting people to self-isolate in particular. This seemed like significant news. Has anyone got any updates?

You can see the position of staff absences from the monthly downloadable NHS spreadsheet titled November 2020 COVID Publication (XLS, 9.6mb)which goes up to 4th November

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/

Total NHS staff absences were levelling off at 4th November in the North West it appears at about 60% of the maximum staff absences in March/April so I’m guessing they are causing about the same level of issues.

Absences highest as a percentage of absences in the first wave in the North West and North East and Yorkshire so consistent with those reporting most covid+ deaths. Lower relative absences in other areas although increasing from these lower levels.

Thanks.

The interesting one is that covid staff absences at 4th November were at about 40% of what they were in the first wave in the North West (which is consistent with covid+ deaths being about 40% of the first wave peak in the North West).

But TOTAL staff absences at 4th November were 60% of the first wave total staff absences peak (so higher than this 40%). This supports the theory which has some supporting anecdotal evidence also that some staff have been off sick in the Autumn for reasons of stress or because they didn’t want to be allocated to treat covid patients.

Looks like from your findings that it might be worth more digging by someone. It seems a significant phenomenon.

There is also the issue that, like Boris, many NHS have had the virus but are being required to ‘self isolate’ over and over again if a colleague or one of their children ‘tests positive’. Shortage of NHS staff is the main reason for the lockdown but government policy is causing it.

I’d say thatT&T policy is a big part of the problem.

Don’t forget also that the obese can self-certify themselves as vulnerable and skive off – and there’s a disproportionate number of fatties working in the NHS.

In addition, those that have been working are being driven to the point of exhaustion on 12 hr shifts meaning some, and I mean some, are going ill due to stress or exhaustion. Lack of nursing capacity needs urgent investigation

Totally agree that the lack of nursing capacity needs urgent attention, but we’ve known about this for years.

The main argument for these measures is that the NHS needs protecting, but as we know it’s been at full capacity nearly every winter, where has been the contingency planning and where is the criticism? We’ve lost our individual liberty for the sake of protecting the NHS, but there seems to be very little questioning of how we have arrived at this place.

Surely with the bare minimum of good management we wouldn’t have to ‘protect the NHS’

Shifts in hospital are normally 11-12 hrs. This means only one handover a day. It’s called a ‘Long Day’. Rotas usually avoid back to back shifts, but sometimes staff will volunteer to do one if another person calls in sick. Stress is caused by vacant posts not being filled as well as staff sickness.

I should have saved it, but a week or so back I spotted a Twatter post which said that in a particular area NHS staff deemed to be in the “At Risk” category were being sent home on indefinite leave until such time as a vaccine is available. It was pointed out that this meant the fatties (and, let’s face it, there are a LOT of them) and BAME employees are now sitting around on full pay, while the remaining staff are working their butts off. I’ve not seen this mentioned anywhere else, so it may be “Fake News”, but then again, it sounds entirely plausible for an organisation obsessed with political correctness and diversity issues…

In my area ‘at risk’ staff are redeployed to non covid/ICU wards. Only a minority are allowed to shield at home.

Found this though:

How should vulnerable workers feature in return to work risk assessments?

 Obesity
Businesses will need to include obesity when considering who may be at risk in your workplace and then undertake individual risk assessments for anyone in that group – particularly as they may have other underlying health conditions that you may not be aware of.
They will need to make sure that staff are aware of the steps that have been taken to protect them.
As part of this exercise, employers could list the categories of people in the vulnerable group and explain that current advice is that they can return to work (if they can’t work from home) and ask them to contact HR so that it can consider their individual circumstances before a decision about whether it’s safe for them to do so is reached.
We recommend that employers include links to the NHS BMI calculator to help your staff determine if they are “very obese”.
Bear in mind that people who fall into this category may be reluctant to talk to their employer about it. If you believe that a member of staff is very obese, businesses may – depending on the nature of their work – ask staff to work out their BMI and inform HR if it’s 40 or above. This will need to be extremely tactful, but employers shouldn’t shy away from the conversation simply because it is a difficult one

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/bame-and-obese-workers-how-should-they-feature-in-return-to-work-risk-assessments/

Or they could insist that they lose weight……..!

Would that be discrimination, victimisation etc?

It may vary from trust to trust (and region to region)?

I’d seen it elsewhere. Sorry don’t know where ….

Good grief. It does have the ring of truth, unfortunately.

Is this really the appropriate time for the pig dictator and Princess nut nuts to jump ship and engage in a 14 day shagfest?

Won’t do as much harm as most things the PD does.

Many wonder about their relationship. I think Littlejohn pointed out what many have always thought: he looks more than old enough to be her dad. The relationship just does not ring true. They are an odd couple. Too odd. The Conservative Woman suggests Boris is a damaged personality…

I just hope Graham Brady and co save us from this madness.

Absolutely, I think that a 24 year difference is shall we say: “a bit weird”

His former wife has just had a book published about her mother’s life. Read an extract yesterday and it was fascinating.

How he must be rueing the day he traded her in.

I think that family follow the old saying about the aristocracy: “They f××k all year and share the babbies (babies) out at Christmas.”

What’s the title of the book? Johnson’s former father-in-law had an interesting life as as a foreign correspondent.

Hi Bart, it’s The Lost Homestead: My Mother, Partition and the Punjab.

The excerpt I read yesterday was really delightful – an escape from the misery her ex is inflicting on us right now.

Fantastic. Will check it out.

Boris is a manchild and easily dominated, Princess nut nuts is his handler.

The parallels between this and Harry & Meghan are eerie.

Is “damaged personality” politespeak for narcissistic sociopath?

According to Littlejohn the last three emojis were used by Dom and wotsisname to indicate princess nut nut.

Ugh. Mind bleach!

The news coming out of Sweden really is a new low. Even their PM’s rhetoric sounds depressingly familiar.

External influences probably.

Sweden has a long history of neutrality. It’s possible that if globalist forces are running this pandemic, they made an initial show of respecting that neutrality, but now perhaps pressure is being applied against them, in the same way the Germans pressured them into allowing use of their railways to access Norway during WW2.

Interesting how the BMJ is turning sceptical, or at least allowing sceptical views (and scathing ones at that).

I wonder if they would publish the Danish masks study?

Twice in one week and Editorials to boot.

Yes, interesting editorial here:
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425

As are the responses to that editorial:
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425/rapid-responses

Brilliant responses, thanks for the link

Yes, good to see those responses thanks.

Hopefully this will encourage them in further editorials along these lines.

If that Danish masks study is technically any good, I imagine there will be huge kudos – when better times dawn – for the journal with the integrity to publish it.

Deep Blue – thank you for posting this. I was beginning to lose my mind… it appears there is hope.

Am sure has nothing to do with the fact their members are first in the queue for the jab ! I would be seriously considering other career options right now…

The NEJM says “hold my beer”. Excoriating

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812

Thanks for the link – but the article rests largely on the premise that non-pharmaceutical interventions are effective, and are responsible for the containment of disease in places like China et al.

I don’t buy that, I’m afraid. A while ago on here there was a discussion on the proper mean of the phrase ‘begging the question’. The article is a good example of that proper meaning, I think.

That photo at the top of today’s post is nauseating. One face indescribably pompous and ugly, the other thick, arrogant and vacant.

One is a pompous twit who’s so full of himself he literally can’t hear the chorus of murderous hatred that accompanies his every move.
And so is the other one.

We all know that hancock is one of the most hated men in the country but, to be fair, he does keep a straight face peddling shite in interview after interview sometimes with hostile presenters.
Perhaps that’s why he’s still in the job.

And, for all Toby says that “yesterday was not a good day” for him, I think he will have gone to bed thinking that it was a very good day. Morgan, Hartley-Brewer, both had a go and he just dissembled and rode them out. It’s all he has to do and he knows it. The law, the “experts”, the “science”, the so-called polls, everything is on his side. It’s almost as if it’s all been set up so that the likes of him have lines they can throw back.

Sociopaths like Hancock will always assume that criticism reflects more on the critic than themselves. Even if the entire country got together and strung him up from a lamppost he’d still assume they were only doing it because they were gullible enough to have been talked into it by someone else.

He’d still be strung from the lamp post. That’s good enough for me.

I’m beginning to think it’s our only option at this point.

Or shot. Either I suspect that he’s not going to meet a good end.

He deserves a bad ending, so do most of them in government.

Politicians’ smiles are duping delight

Yes…he sleeps like a baby. There will be no repercussions, no committee hearing, no investigations, he holds all the cards and he knows it. He could literally appear on the interview naked after a 6 days cocain binge and would be cool as as cucumber.. Like I said about 3 months ago ( oh my God I right again :-() he will probably be knighted for this . We are all in Lok Step going into the Great reset. Build, back, better !

Lying comes easily to him, some of his peers are more obviously uncomfortable defending the indefensible. Hancock will lie his way out of a corner with impunity, knowing even the more hostile interviews conducted by such as Morgan or Brewer, will stop short of really calling him out on the current subject.

A man too dense to understand he is to be the patsy.

At least, unlike Sturgeon, he has to face hostile presenters. The real ‘disaster’ of devolution. I’m not sure if that’s what Johnson was getting at.

I have been thinking of SAGE’s role in this

I would expect either

1 – SAGE looks at covid evidence, supplies information to PM who in addition to other information makes policy decisions

2 – SAGE looks at all evidence (covid and lockdown) and makes policy recommendations

I think what has happened is that

3 – SAGE looks at one half only (covid whilst ignoring lockdown) then makes policy recommendations

But I want to know what was SAGEs official remit? 1 or 2? They can never have been set-up to do 3. So either they were set up catastrophically wrong or they have reinterpreted their scope.

If I was Boris I would ask SAGE what economic forecasts they have been using to gauge the effects of lockdown using their health economists. If they say they haven’t then disband them and set up a new SAGE with a remit of 1 or 2 above.

SAGE does not consider the lockdown negative effects. Its focus is purely on the coronavirus. However, the government did get around to looking at wider effects of lockdown (after it had been implemented). https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/initial-estimates-of-excess-deaths-from-covid-19-8-april-2020
As you can see the government expects the lockdown to kill about two hundred thousand – although you have to add up totals.

“ SAGE does not consider the lockdown negative effects. Its focus is purely on the coronavirus. ”

then it should never make policy recommendations!

And they certainly shouldn’t keep briefing the newspapers to try to bounce politicians into accepting them.

SAGE only does the science bit, hence the name. The problem is the weight given to their advice. Whitty being Chief Medical Officer needed to balance science with economics because that’s his job – to assess harm in a broader sense. When he couldn’t do that he should have sought expert advice.

Sadly it appears the medical establishment seems to think “do no harm” only applies to medical care and patient wellbeing rather than the greater impact on societal and economic impacts.

We saw that with the Charlie Gard case. I’ve had arguments with the wife over that because she can’t see past the medical “do no harm” either. Perhaps it’s because my profession (physics/engineering) has the eternal stain of “Destroyer of Worlds” on it.

The economic effect of lockdown on mortality is science

You mean “science” ?

Surely, as an engineer, you have to test hypotheses before implementing them?

Sage members was set up and positioned over the last 5 or so years with Gates funding almost everybody in it in either by pouring cash into their companies or universities or paying them directly.
SAGE was set up to steer the UK into covid/vaccine/test n trace/ corona bollocks hell, to ensure the UK “did its bit” in the global COVID scam.

That’s what SAGE is for.

Children have killed themselves because of lockdown. In all seriousness SAGE have committed crimes against humanity. Those responsible need to face trial

Vallance said at the “grilling” that they hadn’t taken the economic aspects into account because that’s not their remit.

Sounds as if, ideally, Sage should have been balanced with another group of socio-economic experts.
However, the predominance of modellers, psy-op experts and people with vested interests suggests the composition is deliberate.

https://twitter.com/spencermorgan93/status/1328450549302366214?s=20

I saw that earlier – so true.

Tears yesterday as my 11 year old was forced into a pointless self isolation because someone in his class “tested positive”. He is lucky because he won’t miss out on six and a half days of education because his private school have such an exceptional online offering. How many state educated kids enjoy a full online education while they are self isolating? I suspect the answer is the square root of fuck all.

This is criminal. In fact what’s being done to children is criminal, had a chat with a friend the other day and she predicted that anxiety and OCD will rise among children exponentially when this is all over and you can guess what will happen as they grow older and that remains unchecked.

Big Pharma will be rubbing it’s hands, just thinking of all the anti-anxiety and anti-depressants that will be being prescribed in future years to today’s children.

That’s a good point, they’ll be drugged till kingdom come and it will be seen as an easy way out especially as therapy and counseling will be overstretched for years, even decades.

They may not be as the drugs will probably come out of patent, however it does provide the impetus to create new drugs (probably by creating isomers of current drugs, giving them a new name and hence new patents). £££££

I am terrified of living, as a very old person, in a world run by today’s children and teenagers. Their mothers, particularly, are so brainwashed by government propaganda that they will never go out or take their muzzles off again.

I would like to see the children sent to boarding schools in the countryside with no television, lots of sport, outdoor activities, singing, the teaching of accurate biology, and other forbidden activities. Perhaps, then, we would have a future worth living for.

I know too many f*ed up people who went to boarding school!

And aren’t most of the Cabinet examples of boarding school products?

So would the kids.

A friend of mine spoke to a child psychologist because she is worried about her ten year old son – seems angry and withdrawn a lot of the time. The shrink said there has been a lot of this since Lockdown. Partly it’s the restriction on activities and partly the rise in computer addiction, which fries kids’ brains if they are on them for too long (and isn’t that good for us adults either!)

That doesn’t surprise me – they’re starved of face to face contact as well as just being normal kids which means being outside, playing with their peers, seeing their grandparents, getting dirty. Not being cooped up indoors, going to school in front of a computer screen, being sanitised from head to toe and being muzzled up.

We all know the answer to that.
These poor kids, terrorised by zombie parents and zombie teachers, living on a perpetual go-home time bomb that can explode any second.
I’m so glad I don’t have descendants.

Sadly agree with you on that. I see photos of my nieces muzzled and visored up and wonder what will happen to them.

I can imagine my sister invoking the Nuremberg excuse if and when her daughters go off the rails.

I’m so glad I don’t have descendants

Likewise…

Annie I count my blessings we had no children, a decision we had no part in making but is proving to be more of a silver lining on what was a black cloud.

The private schools have had to do this to survive. They were threatened by ( usually wealthy ) parents with withdrawn fees in the spring, so had to act very quickly.

One issue that isn’t being discussed is increased screen time. It should be

We all pay for education if we pay taxes. It’s just more obvious to the parent of a privately educated child when they are paying on top of this and getting nothing.
All parents should be kicking up whenever their child gets no education.
But then we should all be kicking up when we get no healthcare from the National Covid Service. That isn’t free either.

Exactly. It should worry everyone that the services they pay for, are being reduced, or in some cases withheld.

Oh but there’s an emergency, a deadly pandemic!

The headmaster of my calf’s (now ex-) private school is a rampant bedwetter, refusing even to permit mask exemptions. From what I can tell, the parents customers are no different. When the headmaster refused my calf access to remote learning as punishment for her refusal to wear a mask at school, we parted ways.

The mask issue is down to HSE advice and the teaching unions who are, unbelievably, active in private schools as well as the state sector. Whilst some schools were being more relaxed around masks, most are now insisting on them because of their insurers and lawyers. A stupid situation without doubt, but the schools are between a rock and a hard place on this.

Except that they are liable if harm if caused from wearing masks. Business insurance won’t cover this as the fine print will say it must be established in science that the harm from masks is minimal. And of course it doesn’t say this.

Plus you need a procedure in how to wear them correctly to ensure HSE is met. But there’s no proper guidance on that. Masks are worn in the food industry from time to time and there are regulations on use and disposal. But that’s because mask use is only for specific cases and is hard to enforce. Hair nets and gloves are easier to manage, and yet there are still issues with gloves (latex/nitriles)

So, in short, a parent can sue the school directly for any harm or “perceived harm”.

In which circumstance the schools will have to close again which no one wants. Organisations have to take a pragmatic line on this even if they think the whole thing is a load of bollocks. If we didn’t have No win; No fee none of this would even be an issue.

Yes but the refusal to allow remote access was just vindictive and peevish.

…especially given that remote access was being provided to those children who were “self isolating”.

You did right!

It is as you say f..k all and this will go on and on..I am highly suspicious any child was even tested.this is the spiel being sent to parents around the country by the public health idiots sent from their masters…

I feel your pain. My own son had to endure two weeks of “self-isolation” because of a “positive test” in a pupil in another year group that he *might* have had indirect contact with at playtime. The chances of him interacting with anyone in the year above him was infinitesimally small. But no he had to self-isolate. I suggested to the head teacher that it was probably a false positive and demanded a second test be performed on the individual to be sent to a different lab for confirmation but was told no, that wasn’t going to happen.

Guess what? No symptoms in two weeks: I wasn’t surprised.

The result of this is that in the last couple of weeks he seems to have become more “clingy” to my wife and I.

https://twitter.com/HeckofaLiberal/status/1328242163344318466

This is a short video from June with Michael Osterholm about masks. What he is saying makes perfect sense about an aerosol infection. Osterhom is one of the leading epidemiologists and expert in influenza and respiratory diseases (contrary to Fauci,Redfield,Birx who are HIV experts).
And Michael Osterholm is now part of Project fear and wants a 2 week national lockdown of US and part of the mask mandate. He is also in Biden’s new C-19 group(hope he reverts to previous opinions like this one and he also was against lockdowns in the beginning)

Everything Osterholm says in the video makes perfect sense: viruses are everywhere, even in our ordinarily-exhaled air (not just when coughing), masks only work to the extent that they filter air and trap viral particles (so air leaks around the edges essentially nullify the purpose of wearing a mask), the studies after the Spanish Flu outbreak showed that cloth masks were pointless, and that forcing people to wear masks will be the thin end of a wedge that will lead to governments extend their coercive power into other areas like locking up the overweight and the old “to protect them”.

However, his logic about the ineffectiveness of masks, and his recent appointment to team Biden may lead the people of US down a potentially worse path, that of total isolation:

“ If we don’t stop “swapping air” with our neighbors, friends, and colleagues, COVID case numbers will grow substantially… ” — interview, CNN, 2020-11-16

Here, Osterholm is arguing for more lockdown to prevent people from breathing in the same place as other people. Masks don’t work, therefore lock up everyone. Once again we see the implacable logic of the scientist used to bludgeon the public.

I was interested to read the final section of Churchill’s Fifty Years Hence from 1932, a section that muses on the possibility of science creating a sub-species of human fit only for operating machinery:

“ The production of creatures, for instance, which have admirable physical development, with their mental endowment stunted in particular directions, is almost within the range of human power. A being might be produced capable of tending a machine but without other ambitions. ”

What came to my mind was the image of humans hunched over their smartphones eagerly administering yet another dose of dopamine as they shuffle towards the Soylent Green euthanasia centre. But perhaps I’m just having a bad week.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShFfB-62PTnq93odhnN6rpOF6hsbCwkO4FpA&usqp=CAU

Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble: inhabitants of the Central Belt are awaiting warp speed transport to the Tier 4th Dimension: abandon hope all ye who enter here.

It might be simpler to build an extension at the Bar-L and confine us all at the FM’s pleasure.

It would need to be a very big extension.

I wait with you. If she does as was claimed and shuts ALL but essential shops for four weeks, it will leave 6 days to do the Christmas shopping as a lot of people are relying on their November pay to do so and haven’t the luxury of choosing to shop earlier.

A bumper Xmas for Amazon and Netflix.

‘Hello, is that Nicola Sturgeon?’
‘Aye, this is she speakin,’ wha’s this?’
‘Hi Nicola. This is Jeff. Jeff Bezos. From Amazon.’
‘Whit? You the guy wha’s always droppin’ thae parcels on ma front drive when ah’m awa’ at work, an leavin’ them oot in the rain?’
‘I just love that British humour, Nicola.’
‘Wha’ ye callin’ British? An’ see my parcels, if ye drop one on the drive again I’ll skelp ye.’
‘No but seriously Nicola. It’s me, Jeff Bezos. I’m the boss of Amazon. I’ve got a little proposition to make to you…how would you like to make a million dollars?’
‘Aye, get away. Ah’m no bein’ fooled by that again. Last time it wis a Nigerian prince that wis gonnae gie me a million dollars.’

Exactly; the woman is power mad

In Phase III of the the Moderna vaccine clinical trial, out of the 15,000 people who were in the control group, only 90 became “confirmed and adjudicated cases.”

The total participant population was “approximately 30,000 participants (case driven) whose locations or circumstances put them at appreciable risk of acquiring COVID-19 and/or SARS-CoV-2 infection. ‘All-comers’ with regard to SARS-CoV-2 serostatus (baseline serology will be collected).”

8,000 + participants were “living with chronic condition.”

Yet there has been no comment on quite how few in the control group became “cases.” 90 out of 15,000 in the control group, of whom presumably some 4,000 were living with chronic conditions.

See:
https://www.modernatx.com/sites/default/files/content_documents/mRNA-1273-Update-11-16-20-Final.pdf

Half of the participants received two doses of the vaccine, 28 days apart. The other half received placebos on the same schedule. The total 95 cases (90 control group, 5 vaccine group) were found two weeks after the second vaccine dose. So that’s 90 cases in the control group after 6 weeks. That doesn’t seem like such a low number to me. And having a chronic condition doesn’t necessarily make you more susceptible to contracting the infection.

“That doesn’t seem like such a low number to me.” Relative to what? In the latest ONS Infection Survey in the community for England, 1 in 85 “had the coronavirus.”

Not backed up by the Liverpool results, which have been rather ignored by the BBC.

So the control group had a 0.6% pos rate. Exactly the same as picked up in the Liverpool mass testing charade and highlighted in the BMJ piece above. Hmm?

And similar but higher than the Pfizer vaccine trials (86 out of 21,683 non vaccine so 0.4%)

They are, however adjudged based on symptoms, then confirmed by test. Not randomly selected for testing. Not the same as any FPR at all

Where are the details of the cases, with symptoms? Didn’t mention FPR

‘All-comers’ with regard to SARS-CoV-2 serostatus (baseline serology will be collected).”

Does that mean that even people with pre-existing immunity were enrolled on the trial?

The comparison to the First World War is a good one.

1914 was at the end of a long period of unprecedented peace, economic growth and global integration. Just like today.

It then started with an event in Sarajevo that no one remotely felt at the time could lead to world war. Nobody believed our current dystopia would be the consequence of the first outbreaks back in January.

Miscalculation and Fear then got going as each country believed it might be attacked or suffer ruin if it did not join in. This is all very like the approach to Lock Downs – we will all die if we do not take action and every country then joins the same contagion.

It was also deeply popular, at least at the start. There were crowds cheering in the streets in all the European countries. Every government and populace also convinced themselves that they were morally virtuous and in the right. Just like now.

Then, once the disaster unfolded it was found to be impossible to back out. But, as Guy says, any rational agent would have ended it by December 1914. Instead, it lasted 4 years and even then the result was not clear cut. In some ways, the Second World War was a continuation.

I am increasingly worried that this current dystopia will just carry on. Fear has caused rational judgment to be suspended on the part of too many people. Now that governments and populations are in so deep, everyone is just ex post rationalising. This still has a long way to run.

Rigid battle plans turn out badly as Helmuth Graf von Moltke (the Elder) advised, also Japan’s undoing in Burma. No doubt coronanists will still be muttering about lockdowns as they emerge from the jungle years from now. Those that aren’t boasting about their brave resistance to lockdowns of course.

They will be like that Japanese soldier who was found in the Philippines years after the war ended who refused to surrender and only did so when the Emperor had to order it personally.

Interesting twitter thread about seasonality of Coronaviruses in Canada

https://twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/status/1328087905580048390

“PCR positivity is occurring everywhere and to a greater magnitude and well-before other Coronavirus seasons; despite masking / distancing / restrictions / lockdowns. Why? ”

Nice find.

I expect coronavirus #5 has a more susceptible population to go through. As we saw for UK, the suppression in Spring/Summer could have come from 3 things – summer, herd immunity and lockdown. Comparison between UK and Sweden shows lockdown had a smallish effect, so it must be summer and herd immunity. Anything suppressed by summer will re-emerge in autumn until its gone through everyone and it settles down into being just another coronavirus

When you use vague and imprecise measuring techniques you get vague and imprecise measurements.

The trouble is when you adopt vague and imprecise measuring techniques the advocates proclaim detailed and precise measurements.

Such is the irrational mind.

https://apnews.com/article/65-virus-cases-who-staff-geneva-4e133325afec1d3f309ab184138e6f73

WHO HQ Geneva has now C-19 amongst staff(65)

You log of Matt Hancock’s day at the office missed his earlier appointment with BBC Breakfast, where Dan Walker, one of the BBC’s pretend journalists, tried to challenge Hancock on the failure of Boris Johnson and Mr Anderson to observe social distancing. Mr Hancock was in the BBC’s newsroom, and throughout the interview BBC personnel could be seen failing to observe social distancing. This virtue signalling hypocrisy has become institutionalised, and not just in the BBC. The few Lockdownistas that I know have consistently broken all the ever changing lockdown rules from the outset and have simultaneously complained about and condemned other people (who they do not know) for not observing the rules. One apparently unintended consequence of the lockdown has been to significantly increase the level of virtue signalling and hypocrisy in society generally, something that was bad enough already.

Yes and Hancock is perhaps the biggest virtue signaller of them all, with his National Death Service badge and face muzzle. Cover yourself privately is surely the best advice now in terms of personal health. CCP Virus is only a worry to me if admitted to an NDS Hospital for other reasons, round this way they are a complete disaster.

Do you call the 2009 pandemic the Smithfield virus?

No but nor will I use the WHO, let our Chinese bosses of the hook name for the current virus. China Virus or Wuhan Virus is unfair on the people who have no choice in tolerating the new Nazi’s who run their country. So CCP Virus it is, after those who at the very least knowingly exported their virus. Unless you can think of better.

Smithfield were responsible for the swine flu pandemic of 2009.

I do not see how China’s authorities can be responsible for the current pandemic as they reported it to the World Health Organisation in December 2019. The government of this country was informed (as were all the others) and decided on scientific advice not to secure the borders and a month later two people with the virus freely entered the country, at Heathrow, travelled around London, headed north and got to York before seeking medical attention and were found to have the disease. Even then the government did not secure the border (on scientific advice), allowing more infectious people to freely enter the country and spread the virus. There are plenty of people who are responsible for the spread of the virus, but the Chinese government is certainly not responsible for the actions and inactions of the government of this country: and those policy decisions have caused, and are causing, far more harm than the virus ever could.

Not to exempt the govt in any way from the accusations you’ve made, but didn’t China threaten the doctor who first tried to alert the authorities to the new illness?

There’s increasing evidence now that it was around in various countries well before Dec 2019 anyway.

We should call it stupidity signalling.

Maybe it just shows that the virus spreads anyway and that masks, social distancing etc. do not stop it. Sneaky, naughty viruses. They are older than us. Somehow they always get through. Otherwise, surely, some animal would have evolved masks and socially distanced procreation as a defence. But no animal ever did. Or at least not one we found.

Is it not strange that Hancock et al cannot see that graphs of the virus’ effects all have the same shape, regardless of the measures a country takes or does not take?

Where would the human race be if it wasn’t for our Immune Systems? I put my trust in my own immune system rather than the deceitful lies of globalists.

I don’t think it has so much increased virtue signalling and hypocrisy as exposed it. I said the other day when feeling very low that I will never look at my fellow human being the same way again. I still feel it today, that by and large they are nasty and hypocritical and the veneer of civilisation has always been very thin indeed. We are just seeing it now.

Sigh. I feel the same way, and it’s not a good feeling.

Any psychologist on here who can give an expert opinion of Hancock’s personality type? I always class him as a psychopath having met a few very successful ones in the business world but I may be wide of the mark. Any help please?

Definitely- no empathy whatsoever.

He’s a sociopath, they don’t have empathy.

The notion that Hancock is a psychopath is patently wrong.

Please expand. What is his personality type?

It is not a matter of Matt Hancock’s personality type. He is in fact a typical careerist politician.

The lesson from history – one that so many people shy away from even though it has been repeated so often – is it does not take bad people to do bad things; good people are perfectly capable of doing very bad things and indeed are much more efficient and effective. Take the care home massacre. Virtually all the people involved in those tens of thousands of premature deaths are good, caring people, concerned to do their jobs as well as they are able. Yet, they placed old, vulnerable people in virtual solitary confinement, denied them access to the comfort (and oversight) of their relatives, denied them any social interaction to speak of, denied them access to the outdoors, denied them access to medical attention, put DNR notices on their notes, and many of them, entirely predictably, out of isolation and anxiety and confusion and depression simply gave up and died. This massacre of the most vulnerable is just one example of the horrors good people have inflicted since March. Good people happen to be precisely the people one needs to carry out the most barbarous of policies.

I think you’re right – there’s some quote somewhere that tyrants who genuinely believe they’re acting for your own good are far more dangerous than those simply doing it for power, because they are true believers in the cause and will never stop.

Arrogance covering up ignorance. An ability to lie with impunity. Extrovert personality (likes to party). Err possibly an inferiority complex needing highly boosted approval levels to keep in check and membership of a wider group to hide behind or gain a lift in status from. Hence the slavish corporate arse-licking.
*Disclaimer
I am not a psychologist. I am a village idiot.

He somehow seems too clueless to be a psychopath. They also often have a superficial charm about them, that doesn’t apply to MH.

In order to diagnose personality disorder (and you can look at either ICD-10 or DSM V) you need to see if the traits (not necessarily all) apply. To be accurate you need the relevant training but you can have fun looking and making your own mind up. In order to do a proper job you would also need to have his personal and developmental history, and information about his relationships, especially with parents and partners. There are many types of personality disorder, some with overlapping traits and be aware that clinicians will often not agree on diagnosis. So good luck with that!
I worked within two clinical teams in Broadmoor for 5 years. So I have met plenty of psychopaths.

Could you find the time to do a bit of investigation into Wancock and decide whether or not he really has psychopathic tendencies?I know we non-experts tend to throw the word around in our righteous anger.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder I bet.

Not a psychologist, but he obviously thinks he’s the best thing since sliced bread.

He thinks he’s exempt from basically everything because he’s a Top Gubberment Health Officer battling the Deadliest Pandemic of All Time.

Bit of a spring in my step today. Seems I’m not the only one in the People’s Republic of Saffron Walden who is incensed by all the new signage (both covibollox and green).

Someone (and it really isn’t me, though I have done a bit of ‘Annie’-ing in the past!) has had a real go at the new 20 m.p.h signs and ‘let’s all live greener’ signs. Respect, whoever you are!

Oh my goodness, the Times’ chief lockdown fan Hugo Rifkind has ACTUALLY had it, and is ACTUALLY able to tell us what it is ACTUALLY like! Funnily enough, in his case, sounds like a bad cold.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/this-is-what-catching-covid-actually-feels-like-qfq7gqzzn

And if you think you’ve “got it”, why even bother going for a test? You wouldn’t bother for the flu: You’d just take the time off work and self medicate with Paracetamol and Ibuprofen until you felt better.

Good grief no, you have to make a song and dance about it, declare it all over social media, wear it like some badge of honour!

I should have added that the only time you probably really need to do something is if you think you need to be in hospital.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/11/cold-winter-how-covid-19-unemployment-has-hit-england-s-fuel-poor-areas

Fuel poverty is adding to the misery of those already suffering the most hardship in lockdown UK

This will lead to further excess deaths, all attributable to the mishandling of the SARS-COV-2 situation.

There was an article I read sometime ago (can’t remember where it was sorry) and one of the comments below pointed out that if people were still forced to work from home into autumn and winter which is essentially now then expect electricity and heating bills to go up the roof.

And if you’re in danger of redundancy then fuel poverty will be a big problem.

Quite right Bart, and the figures are already showing this.

Hence why I believe that the universal winter fuel allowance should be scrapped.

That’s my daughter’s dilema. Her attic flat in a Victorian house is lovely in summer, but it gets very cold in winter. She’s not been too bothered by this before as it only affects her in the evenings, and at weekends, she was usually out for much of the day enjoying herself. Now though it is a different matter. She can’t work in the cold, but her electric boiler central heating system is so so expensive to run. She’s been told that she can claim £6 tax deduction flat rate a week, but her yearly heating bill is going to go from nearly £1,000 a year to god knows what this winter. And it’s not even got cold yet.

I can sympathise with your daughter. Mr Bart & I live in a flat built in 1919, not great but the windows are awful. We were supposed to have them changed this year but this shit show put paid to that.

The draft is awful that even the heating doesn’t make much difference.

About the only thing we did right this year was to get the 2 sets of double doors changed! We were originally going to wait until the summer to have the work done, but the extremely wet autumn made us decide to go ahead anyway. The doors were changed in early Jan – it was a vile wet and windy day, atrocious conditions for the poor fitters! Then along came Feb which was another sh*tshow of wind and rain, and we felt very pleased with out decision.
We like to think the new doors make a difference, but it’s not a big enough difference in reality for her to work comfortably and still be able to pay the bills.
She’s so desperate that she thinks she will come and stay with us if it gets really cold this winter – we’ve got the space still and might as well heat one house rather than two. She’s in her mid 30s so you can tell how desperate she is!!

Better than working in an ice- old office, where the heating is banned in case Covvie gets into it.
Warmth poverty?

It’s become a double edged sword isn’t it?

Yes families will be struggling for extra winter bills and putting food on the table due to government rules, yet BBC strictly and the im a celeb people can still get paid thousands for appearing on TV shows which are permitted. There is something seriously wrong about this!!

The government is at war with the people of this nation. Covid bullshit, Green shite (didn’t vote for this Slippery Pig), Blasphemy and free speech laws trying to be passed through the back door. The final straw for me is, they are now picking on the cash cow that is the Motorist. They are taking away every part of life worth living!

Impact of fuel poverty on excess winter deaths – http://euanmearns.com/the-influence-of-temperature-on-uk-death-rates/ – excess winter deaths caused by inadequate indoor heating – Indoor temperatures of less than 16C increase respiratory risk – hence about 60 to 80 000 extra deaths each winter

Shame where a wealthy country cannot provide its citizens with basic heating – going to get worse if we move away from natural gas heating which provides warmth to 85 % of homes in exchange for expensive and unreliable wind and solar electricity

And of course the irony in your comment is that temperatures of less than 16C increase the risk of respiratory impairment,while all the while ,the Great and the Good have imprisoned us to save us from an apparently world shatteringly lethal respiratory virus.

Add the gagging and associated problems and ,as I keep expostulating- you couldn’t make this up!

Quite true of course, but I think you are all failing to see the positive side of this.

Poor people cant afford to run their heating systems – less co2. Old and infirm people die from hypothermia, stop breathing – less co2.

Cawwie, Greta, and all the other murdering bastards get to live in their green utopia – win, win!

If you can’t join them, beat them.

This is the ludicrousness of the self isolation rules.

I have one child off school due to there being a positive result for another child on their school bus. Then yesterday the other child came home with a letter saying that the school will be closed in 2 days time for 10 days so that the school can be deep cleaned because there has been 11 positive results.

Like I said yesterday – they have completely lost their shit

Deep Cleaning…FFS
Mental.

My former church, now the Tenby Temple of Covidian Terror and Faceless Ghoulery, gets deep-cleaned after every service. Each service lasts about 35 minutes, and the muzzled ghouls are so anti-socially distanced that they need telescopes to see one another. Every one of them knows he or she is a walking bag of death.

Oh dear, Annie. That’s terrible. I haven’t even been to our church since this madness began. We have to book our place by Friday evening, muzzle up and keep away from everyone else. Talk about paranoid. They’ve even stopped ringing the bells. Perhaps it moves the air around too much.

If the PCR tests had never been invented then none of this sh*t would be happening. It’s the teachers and head’s stupidity and gullibility that annoys me most. Do they believe this garbage?

Hysterical.

Never mind deep cleaning, I do hope they are fixing lightning conductors to any high buildings, as we know for a fact that lightning is a greater risk than ‘rona to children.

Don’t usually swear but I’m fucking incensed at Hancock. If we continue this second pointless lockdown so many businesses who’s financial year is based around the takings from Christmas will simply disappear. What a total twat.

I’m honestly sick of the peole living in the south of this country. Loving it because they’re either (currently) insulated financially or on furlough. The puritanical wankers of out local Facebook group make me sick.

Honestly hate this shit country right now. That’s the first time I’ve ever said that. Bungh of tossers.

Lord R

This has had a big impact on me over the last few months. I knew that this country had problems. I knew our political class were not up to scratch but I kept my belief that this country was still a great country.
I’d read Hitchens for years and agreed with his basic premise that the nation has died but it is only now that the reality of it has really hit home.
And there is a bit of grief there, to be honest. (And soft.)

I agree. I wish they had the guts to get out amongst their constituents, but they haven’t.

My MP studiously ignored me on her way upstairs (past the door of my business) to go and discuss how best to ‘help’ the hospitality sector with the BID chairwoman. Yes, discussing my future with someone who, from where I am standing, is also not impacted by this shit-show. The arrogance is astounding.

My SNP person has ignored my latest emails; what has become of representation of constituents?

Down the plughole, as they draw their salaries, plus perks.

We’re just an irritant wendyk. Never felt more like a medieval serf in my life.

Exactly how I feel, kh: a troublesome irrelevance.

Perks
For jerks
In the land where nothing works
And a she-devil smirks.

Agree with you. I despise the cowardice of businesses & institutions who lacked the cojones to fight all these. Instead they kowtowed to every insane diktat with some even over egging the pudding by adding their own insanity (ex. no mask, no service, using their staff to bully & harass customers, using Covid safety as an excuse for bad service).

What’s equally bad and worse are colleagues who still buy this crap even when the reality of compulsory redundancy is staring at them in the face.

I’ve lost sympathy with businesses and institutions a long time ago. If they still refuse to wake up and fight, they will deserve to die.

Yes, they will deserve to die, BUT they will drag us all down with them!

And this is why I’m angry with businesses and institutions – they’ll be dragging their employees and the public with them.

Feel the same about Hancock, when are the real Tories going to stand up and remove this school boy. I have relatives in the north, and they are all being so obedient which surprised me, but without exception they are employed by the state, civil servants, schools and nhs, they don’t mine furlough etc, and compared to 4% in the south, 11% in the north are employed byt the state. In the south, neighbours who have a small cafe are now doing takeaway to hold off ruin, just a different perspective.

They won’t rock the boat and risk their gold plated pensions, not until they themselves are impoverished.

Couldn’t agree more. Hancock is completely out of his depth, as is the entire government. I swing between despair and rage on an hourly basis. I am one of the (for now) “financially insulated” ones who people live to criticise, as are my colleagues. We are all against this madness.

Sorry, that should have said “love to criticise”.

Not all southerners are like this – just saying
I can’t even look at Wancock (or spell his name correctly – he must be insulted at every opportunity). I was previously quite patriotic – no more. The majority of the people of this country shame us all.

Agree. All of us running our own businesses may be getting by but only just. Revenue is well down and we can’t take it for ever.
I also do have human feelings for those who can’t get by and if we don’t have a real Christmas with a proper season for those businesses who rely on it then we will all be worse off to a large extent. Money doesn’t grow on trees, despite what Sunak would like us to believe, it is generated from real endeavour.

Exactly the same boat mate…and I’m also a southerner!

When I went up north if anything it seemed to me lockdown love and total sheep like compliance was even worse then where I live down south.

It is and its utterly depressing..if you noticed an unmasked person breathing in fresh air..it was probably me

I live in NE Derbyshire and it is Covid central around here. I hardly ever see another person without a muzzle in the shops, and the number wearing the vile things outside is growing!. I look at these idiots with nothing but contempt.

I’ve been a lifelong monarchist, but no more.

A number of small businesses and self employed, have been living in catch 22 land and FB is one of the main drivers of this IMO. They risk alienating what they see as most of their customers, by saying fuck the rules, we’ll open. From conversations I’ve had, most want to do this. But a perceived public mass of zealots, is keeping them from the final push.

This is what has happened with us. We are ignoring the rules as much as possible but because of snitching bastards snivelling off to the council I have now been threatened with prosecution and hefty fines. The levels of snitching and sheer nastiness has been something that has really shocked me. Funny that these FB keyboard ‘warriors’ never have the guts to say the things they say on the internet to my face. Say what you like about me (and many have!), but I wouldn’t say anything on here that I wouldn’t say to someone’s face.

If all the other businesses said “eff off”, it would be easier to ignore but they’re all lapping up the covibollox. The problem is also that I suspect a lot of businesses here are run as hobbies rather than as a source of income, so if they are closed it doesn’t really make any difference.

Sorry to hear about the snitching. The spirit of the demonic Stasi is still with us, albeit hopefully not so widespread.

I think a few food and drink businesses may even be run as fronts for criminal activities and money-laundering!

Hobbies? What do they live on then? I am sure you are right though…..especially in posh towns.

I’m totally on board with you. Please don’t fit one minute think that this is a North/South problem though. It isn’t.

The problem is the elites vs the plebs. At the moment they have an army of indoctrinated zombies fighting their cause for them. It won’t last.

So far this year we have suffered three suicides, including my business partner after we lost our business a month ago. I currently have £400k of debt now and no income. I live in the South Coast.

I hear stories like mine more and more each day locally. I don’t know what it will take to wake the people up to the horror that has been unleashed upon us all, I know many are waking up but if there is a mass awakening then there will be absolute hell to pay.

I’d definitely buy a ticket to see PD & Wcock face the music…

I took the liberty of telling 2 zealots about your awful experiences Arnie, without naming you.

All I got in return was a non committal ‘mmmm’.

It’s impossible to breech the covid cognitive dissonance mindset.

Same here. I mention Arnie’s experience to someone but I got the usual “but the virus is still here and cases are going up”

I give up.

Fuck their ‘cases’!

No hyperbole. It’s WW3 and every country is under occupation by (who?). The public face of the occupier is the World Economic Forum led by Klaus Schwab. So many are starting to see what’s happening. It’s not a conspiracy theory anymore

The destruction of the economy is by design so the billionaire class can pick off failed businesses for a snip. The resulting poverty will force millions on to UBI which means the State controls them

The economic, political and cultural landscape is being razed to build the Great Reset = the billionaires concentration camp for us

Perhaps the non essential retailers, pubs, restaurants and cafes should declare a lifetime ban on Hancock?

David Icke on the Labour Party One-Party-State fascistic bid to silence opinions that question vaccine safety
https://davidicke.com/2020/11/16/david-icke-on-the-labour-party-one-party-state-fascistic-bid-to-silence-opinions-that-question-vaccine-safety/

The other day I posted about the experiences of youngest child working as a chef in South Wales. A quick recap:
work colleague wished to see grandmother in hospital
hence decides to have SARS-COV-2 test
result is positive- needs to isolate for 10 days
my son had a lift with him and so needs to isolate for 14 days

Update:
Restaurant where they work seeks advice.
No one seems able to advise them
Owner is forced to make the decision to close the restaurant (they all wear masks in the kitchen) for 14 days
My son has been furloughed (the only relatively good thing as if they hadn’t closed he would have been on SSP of £90 per week).

There is no SarsCov2 test

This is not sustainable.
It’s insane.

Next time get a voodoo priest in to do a ceremony and use that for the HSE risk assessment

BBC article this morning (Six months after LS highlighted this issue, but hey ho)

During April 1,729 people were discharged from hospital to care homes in Wales

53 had tested positive for covid before discharge

‘Research by Public Health Wales later concluded that discharging patients from hospitals into care homes did not increase the risk of coronavirus outbreaks among residents.’

Who made the decision to discharge them. Yes, you guessed it PHW

The corruption is staggering

But you can’t go into a shop without a mask, because ‘that will increase the risk’. Yes, corruption on a grand scale

After the manslaughter of many elderly patients, PHW found themselves “not guilty”.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/why-covid-19-testing-tragic-waste

Lots of good stuff in here from Dr Merola.

Latest from The Bernician on Facebook:

We chased the chief magistrates office all day today (Monday). We’re still waiting for a reply to two messages and an email, which we were hoping would come some time this evening.
That not being the case, we will continue chasing until we ascertain how far the warrant application has progressed. As soon as we have any news on the PCP, you’ll read it here first. Until then, remember that patience pays the greatest rewards.
Meanwhile, fourteen members of the People’s Union of Britain, who have witnessed the emails which have passed between PUB and the Chief Magistrates office, have pledged to execute witness statements to that effect.
These affidavits will form the basis of defamation and malicious falsehood complaints, against every fraudulent fop who made serious allegations they knew to be untrue, for their own material gain.

Make up your own mind – I am sure you will.

If, like me, you are wondering what the role of Chief Magistrate is, here is an explanation:

https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/who-are-the-judiciary/judicial-roles/judges/chief-magistrate/

Yes, I checked this out before and it is legit.

Sorry for plebness – got a technical forum issue – can anyone help?
I’ve been trying to send some pm’s on there and they are stuck in the Outbox. I’ve tried to send them several times, but they won’t budge.
Anyone know how I can get them sent?
Ta in advance

I had this, it doesn’t move to ‘sent’ until the person has read it

how do you even send/read a PM?

Just tried sending you one, but not sure if it works if you aren’t on the forums. If you click onto the Forums section and if you are logged in you should see little red marks on your notifications and private messages icons.

Oh maybe I’m cleverer than I thought!

Mandatory vaccines will make vaccines worse

The level of hate and propaganda about vaccines makes it impossible for science to develop effective vaccines. This point is effectively made in this academic medical research paper here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28882443/

Most research suggests vaccines in general have more benefit than risk, but there are risks particularly with autoimmune conditions. Researchers who raise these issues and with a view to improving vaccines are labelled as anti-vax, effectively blocking the development of good vaccines.

Laws against ‘anti vax’ information would also, in reality, stop scientists questioning where vaccines cause harm and thereby prevent improvements.

Just got this in a email from my 3 year olds primary school which up until now had remained reasonably sane

“We have recently been notified that XXXXXXXXXXX Primary School have had to close class bubble’s due to a positive COVID-19 test result.

In response to this, as we are located on their grounds, we would request with immediate
effect that all parents wear a face covering when dropping off and collecting their children.
This is a precautionary measure to help protect yourselves, the children and staff and reduce the risk of COVID-19.”

Really what do they think this will achieve.

They assured me earlier in the year that his teachers would not be wearing face masks and they would not be attempting to impose social distancing on the children. I worry that this may have already changed.

I am starting to feel a real deep hatred towards every fucker that is involved in this from evil MP right down to gormless obedient twat on the street. It is becoming all consuming and I know this is not healthy.

That same email went out from my kids school 3 weeks ago. I carry my exempt card and was challenged once when entering the school. All very courteous.

Compliance at the school gates has been at around 10-15%. It’s a nonsense virtue initiative based on no science. I always carry a spare exempt card with me as I would love someone to aks me why I am not wearing one. I’ll happily inform them its personal choice and provide a magic pass.

Personally I would not use an exemption card. I just say I am exempt if challenged and if that’s not enough then I am happy to take my business elsewhere.

I do not see what the nursery could do other then exclude my child and if they are willing to do that then I think its for the best.

I hope you intend to remain exempt.
On a flippant note what on earth are people responsible for our children’s education doing putting a possessive apostrophe in the plural of bubble?

Reminds me of the worksheet sent home from my children’s private primary about 20 years ago now. They were required to give examples of verbs but the teacher’s efforts included an adjective.

My son was once told that the Dee was not a Welsh river and had his work marked as wrong..

I intend to maintain my dignity and rebel against this tyranny until I am dead.

If there ever is a reckoning and I admit I have little hope at this point I think everybody working with children who has been willing to subject then to abuse needs to be identified and prevented from working with children again.

Hope that it doesn’t come to the mandate for parents to muzzle up.

I wonder if these schools and the teachers are aware that they’re complicit in the abuse of children. Children aren’t stupid, they can pick up what adults are doing. Today’s children will be controlling the finances and care homes of tomorrow.

They have been warned.

Just back from taking my car out for its weekly exercise. Delighted when passing a local school to see a huge crowd of school kids closely packed, unmasked, waiting to cross the busy road. At least one school sees sense – it is a private one so guess can be a bit more flexible.

The primary school near me has been relatively sane as well.Its wonderful seeing them just being children and the teachers not being muzzled or wearing visors.

All I read on today’s update are examples of politicians being ignorant or corrupt, with truth meaning nothing and our lives and liberties even less. We are well and truly shafted.

I forgot one other word…cowardly.

The Pandemic as the German War machine is apt. I have also felt that the industry falling in behind the whole sham – from stock market investors, companies ramping up capacity, purchasing manufacturing capacity, consulting firms, regulators and government departments – all backed by the massive capital injections from the BoE.

It’s created a bubble. A too big to fail initiative. When large companies make such bets they find it almost impossible to turn the ship around as it enters uncharted waters.

Either way, as always, the tax payer will pick up the tab and the wgaed worker will suffer most.

Oh and the masks companies, hand sanitisers, the converted engineering firms now making perspex screens. Even your local community groups now, instead of running events for those they serve, have set up mask making groups and encourage people to stay home save lives.

The mask making groups have become another way to virtue signal. I should know because I know someone who has been boasting about making muzzles as her craft project and from her sewing machine.

More fun to be had! Ask her about filtration; ask her about breathability; ask her about contra-indications of wearing masks made from the fabrics she’s chosen; ask her about whether they are able to be worn by people with sensive skin. Ask her if she puts a label on her masks stating specifically that it cannot protect against covid (because it most certainly can’t). Ask her if her house insurance has agreed to cover her for any issues caused by the masks she’s made (breathing in fibres, for example). Tell her you’ve heard of people who are suing homemade mask-makers because of these issues. These people wouldn’t think twice about having a go at you in a supermarket for not wearing a muzzle. Play them at their own game.

Good questions. And what about when they’re washed? What about the bobbles from the fabrics?

Oh yes! More pollution! And what about the fabrics she used to make these masks? New? Or her old bedlinen? Or old bedlinen found at a chazza? Can she GUARANTEE that she washed them enough that there were absolutely NO germs on them? If the fabrics were new, what about the coatings? Did she pre-wash before making the masks? All those dinky quilting fabrics come with sizing and other protective agents … wouldn’t want people breathing those in, now would we?

Good questions and it got me thinking, whatever happened to the home made ones that were made during the first lockdown. Were they ever handed out or binned?

Its a joint effort to keep up the threats, against the people of this country. It really is like a world wide experiment to see what works. Different countries doing different things. Constant threats in this country, carrots and sticks. NZ stuck on their island, but, life goes on uninterrupted, while they think the outside world is being kept at bay they are ok with it, everything open, shops, theatre, cinema’s, schools, businesses, Family life.

But getting muzzles https://covid19.govt.nz/health-and-wellbeing/protect-yourself-and-others/wear-a-face-covering/

Honestly, are people really taking notice of what idiots like Hancock and Tim “nice but dim” Jenrick are saying anymore. The streets and roads are busy and people are mingling, only the old and silly are wearing masks. And as for Christmas, well, just try you loathsome commies..

Unfortunately, the pubs have to take notice of these arseholes and, the madness in our schools is symptomatic of the position of the lawyers and insurers, who actually run the country, because some clever dick thought it would be a good idea to allow no win; no fee.

I loved nothing more than going into a back street pub for a swift pint of “mild” at the bar, unfortunately (and as an ex Camra member) , not with the present diktats..

Yes -if you watch Midsummer Murders you get all nostalgic for the crowded pubs with standing rom only.

Exactly. We can only ignore what we are physically able to ignore which is nowhere near enough. I can’t force pubs, restaurants, concert halls to be open.
I am pleased to see everyday around here a lot of cars that don’t belong to the residents parked up on drives. I’m glad my neighbours seem to be having visitors.

This is the problem we face.How to translate the general disdain for the regulations into a movement to overturn every last one of them.

Anyone remotely excited about a vaccine for a cold virus that poses minimal risk to the majority of people and should be battled by allowing the healthy population to develop natural herd immunity should be VERY AWARE of the company boasting the “first successful vaccine”. They are utterly unscrupulous. Criminal. So far paid $4.7 billion in fines. $35 million alone in fines for taking bribes and kickbacks. It’s an expensive operation being a vile, murderous drug dealer – where do you think they get their revenue from. Wake up!
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer

This is terrifying. Words (almost) fail me.

MPs should be told about this.

I sent it to Caroline Lucas last night. She has been engaging with me. Please send the link to your MP. However, it is widely known. Pharma companies just buy people’s silence. It’s a well-oiled machine. Do you know how many people chemotherapy kills? Offer it to people by all means but tell them the side effects!! No, that’s all been hushed up. What about the number of people killed by the polio vaccine in one trial? Go look that one up. You’ll cry!

I think also that because the side-effects are in teeny-tiny print, people equate this with the amount of risk associated with taking drugs. My late mum had every single side-effect associated with the horrible cocktail of drugs she was taking (and she was put on more drugs to counteract the effects of other drugs). It’s a bloody scandal and it’s criminal.

The scary thing is how widely known this is. Pharma companies have been hushing up and putting out fires for years. Who do you think pushes the “anti-vaxxer” label?! Most of us are not blanket “anti-vaxxers” we are SAFE vaxxers and totally against medicine for profit. Medicine for profit should be illegal. Public funds for public health ONLY. But it’s the biggest industry in the world. The poetic irony is that they normally do their dodgy testing on unsuspecting, innocent populations in Africa and India (look up number of deaths from HPV vaccine trials in young girls in India). This time, the hysteria is so hyped up, they will be getting enough willing volunteers for wealthier privileged classes. Leave them to it. As long as they leave the rest of us alone!

I upticked this but someone must have downticked at the same time as it’s still on zero.

Anyone not convinced of the dangers BigPharma poses should read books by Alison Bass, Side Effects: A Prosecutor, a Whistleblower, and a Bestselling Antidepressant on Trial ; Ben Goldacre: Bad Pharma and the many books by Peter Breggin (as mentioned on yesterday’s page).

Great books to read

Jesus wept. This is bad and what’s worse is of course there are enough gullible and desperate people who will believe these snake oil salesmen.

Flag it up on Toby’s ‘got a story’ link.

People wouldn’t buy a used car from a company with a record like that. I took place in Pfizer drug test when on pain medication a few years ago, It was a total sham. The drug made me so ill I was hospitalised but it was never recorded as a side effect. I was said to have ‘dropped out for other reasons’. They are vile.

Don’t know if this has been posted before

Two veterans arrested on Remembrance Sunday

Our country is being eradicated

https://youtu.be/JxBI2fTZgMw

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. There is common ground with BLM. “Defund the police” has merit.

Disgraceful, notice how they did not try to mob wrestle the two big fellas to the ground as is their habit.

Wales publishes its daily count by local authority ( https://public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary ).
There is a row at the bottom for those not resident in Wales, the significance of which became apparent in October when non-residents appeared in large numbers: the non-Welsh students.
Powys has always been rumoured to be unrealisticaly low as most of its hospital facilities are in England.

It should be clear to those using this data for setting lockdown policy that it is now of limited use. If it wasn’t, they should have asked.

For much of Powys, the principal English hospital is in Hereford, which is an area of very low incidence in any case; another favourite is in the rump of Monmouthshire, also a ‘low’ area; and Shrophsire is hardly plague-ridden for anyone sent off to Shrewsbury….

Powys is a large, thinly populated rural area with only a modest tourist trade. Enough said.

One briefly pleasant encounter just now in the dismal Central Belt: Sainsbury’s delivery brought to my door by an extremely pleasant young woman who told me that she enjoys her job.

We chatted while I collected all my stuff: she wasn’t wearing a mask!

A cheerful bare face to communicate with.

Little things mean such a lot now, in these benighted times.

I was skateboarding in a local park yesterday when a beautiful older woman had a brief conversation with me.
Why did I think she was beautiful? Because of her smile and evident joy in life.
Probably laughing at the absurdity of a 40+ man skateboarding too.

Good for you,and her!

It’s great to be absurd and to be laughed at, in a nice way. And enjoying yourself is a must, in a world where THEY want you to be miserable.

Yep, air in the lungs and a smile on my face. Can’t beat it.

Many people talking about how illogical the ‘rules’ are.

Biderman in the 1950s developed a ‘coercion chart’, which I posted here on Saturday.This was the product of his studies of the psychological torture of US POWs in the Korean War.

One section of this is ‘Enforcing Trivial Demands’

1. Develops habit of compliance.
2. Reinforces who is in control
3. Rules on compliance may change.
4. Demands made are illogical and contradictory.

Does that sound familiar?

Having illogical, contradictory and ever-changing rules keeps the subject puzzled, frustrated and off-balance, unable to predict what may happen next.

It is easy to get caught up in discussing the illogicality and inconsistency of rules Why can’t I do this? Why must I do that?

Cut through the Gordian knot.

It’s all bullshit.

I’ve shown the screenshot of that chart to a number of people, it does not take much spelling out for them to see the similarities.
The greatest surprise is when I tell them it dates from the 1950’s.

Calchas, could you please repost that chart? I’d like to use it to show others too.

Here’s a relevant New Yort Times article, which shows how the tecniques described were also used at Guantanamo.

Guantanamo, was the last instance before this one, which I can find, where masks and anti-social distancing were enforced on people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/us/02detain.html

BBC R4 9am The Long View
Discussing Anti Vaxxers right now, disparaging probably a better word

They are already starting to call anti vaxxers “far right” in the msm and bbc.

Their favourite slur.

Damn. I thought they meant we are by far right. Terribly insulted now.

An ‘anti-vaxxer’ used to be someone who was against all vaccinations, almost on principle.

Now, an ‘anti-vaxxer’ is someone, who questions any vaccine for any reason.

Yes, we are being associated with anti vaxers.

There’s something to be pleased about, anyway …

As was warned we are moving to a faceless NHS. Broken leg? Been in a car crash? Phone ahead and we’ll book you a spot for your convenience

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54963437

Perhaps better described as a withdrawal of the A&E service.

Happening in Ayrshire and Arran now.

https://www.nhsaaa.net/news/latest-news/right-care-right-place/

In Worcestershire you are asked to pre book for A&E!

No mention in today’s update of last night’s C4 programme on the test labs. Only saw a few snippets but what I did see confirmed my view that the labs are a shambles and strong evidence that all the false positives are very very real. No doubt the rest of the media will conveniently ignore it.

Ignore it? Certainly they want as many cases as possible. I work for a major research lab which is probably the highest rated lab of its kind in the world (I can’t say more because I want to keep getting paid) and our biggest problem is getting quality lab staff, so where are they finding the staff for these labs?
I guess they are just whoever they can get from the employment agencies no experience of working in a lab no understanding of clean room procedures, no understanding of anything. They will be completely useless twats on minimum wage and temporary contracts.

Certainly. My memory from a long time ago now is that RNA contamination can happen extremely easily. No point wearing gloves if you scratch your nose!

That’s exactly what Dispatches found; inexperienced staff, multiple examples of possibilities for cross contamination of swabs, (including infecting the staff working there), preferment of private business paying for results over the ordinary test centre swabs, leading to backlogs and test centre results waiting more than 24 hours, and inefficient process so that test centre swabs from England were sent to N Ireland, thus also increasing turn around times. It looked like an omni-shambles.

Useless twats?Ideal for the job.

Mrs leggy is a retired geneticist who used to perform a lot of PCR with respect to plant genetics. She watched the programme and called me in with a “Come and look at this!”.

She was absolutely shocked by the practices she saw. I paraphrase but:

“Any scientist watching this, regardless of their branch of expertise, must surely now question the entire validity of this testing. If they don’t, then that’s extremely worrying”.

Put it all into context with the known high CT (you can find anything in anyone) and the entire thing descends far beyond farce.

Would Mrs Leggy write for us here?

I can but ask.

The bar was set when they never classified and measured Covid-19 with sufficient precision. When they changed reporting and left it up to doctor’s own judgement without allowing for elimination tests.

The vaguery of symptoms and broad attribution all violate Popper’s rules on falsification, a bedrock of modern science.

But then if you want to say black is white and 2+2=5 it was perfect.

Saw this Dispatches C4 program by chance.

They uncovered serious cronyism and the award of 100s of millions of Pounds contracts without Parliamentary scrutiny. Dido Harding is on the board of the jockey club, also involved at Newmarket races and very well connected to Hancock (it is in his constituency). Hancock is also heavily involved with Newmarket races and obviously connect with Dido there (they did not talk about in in the program).

There is also a crony connection with the Random Laboratories in Northern Ireland.

Serco is also on the take, multi-million contract awarded to them, but they outsourced it to a lot of other companies, some debt collection agencies. As it is taxpayers money, they tried to establish who these ‘other companies’ were. PHE did not want to provide the information and when they contacted Serco, they also stated that they will not provide the information.

Are we talking about major fraud and enrichment?

Not to worry , Dido’s husband is the Tory MP John Penrose and has been serving as the UK Anti-Corruption Champion since 2017; he will obviously make sure any fraudulent activity is immediately eliminated and the wastage of our tax money will be stopped

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/15/chumocracy-covid-revealed-shape-tory-establishment
Handy graphics of the spider webs in yesterday’s Guardian, with figures in the contract values.

Just listening to the Piers Morgan interview with Hancock – it is hilarious – Hancock comes across as a complete idiot.

Just the image of those two ghouls was enough for me.

That’s because he is!

Two of the most odious men to walk this planet, that takes some doing to reach those dizzy heights!.

Too generous – ‘incomplete idiot’.

I see that the propaganda machine is going full steam ahead for effectively banning xmas now. Sage and public health England telling us that if we dare to imagine we can see our families for Xmas, (let alone flatlining the economy) think again.
Will this insanity never end?

Ignore them for now, then chase them, then put them in front of a peoples court, then look forward to seeing them on the scaffold..

I’m still of the opinion that there will be some opening up for Christmas.I can’t see the Government attempting to enforce a lockdown,which most people will ignore and is impossible to police.
That being said I can see the messaging coming out of sage and elsewhere and fully expect us to be back in lockdown in the New year.

My thoughts exactly.

For “not following the rules” over Christmas.

That will be on johnsons instructions, he will emerge from isolation as The Man Who Saves Xmas for a Grateful Nation.

There’s a ditch he can die in.

Presumably Parliament will soon need to consider what happens after this current lock-down ends. I am currently drafting a report to my MP with the aim of challenging the whole concept of Public Health action by Statutory Instruments formulated under the Public Health act.
My report ignores any consideration of cases/dodgy test results on the basis that any consideration of legal Public Health action should be solely based on serious hospital cases and deaths. In my view on both those counts the case for continuing statutory action against this virus is looking very threadbare.
You do not seem to be able to attach documents to these comments otherwise I would have attached it.
But anyway with a decision coming up soon I think we need to do all we can to challenge the whole idea of Public Health action by legal statutory instruments, it is unprecedented in my lifetime and is now not justified by the current situation.

Politicians don’t work for us. They work instead for the ruling class, the billionaires

The greedy careerists among them naively believe a seat is reserved for them at the World Economic Forum’s table

Do you see how they’re doing it? This was obvious weeks ago. They were banging away about “saving Christmas”. Which in the greater scheme of things is a total irrelevance. But now everyone is having that same conversation. They must save Christmas, it’s for the kids, whatever. And when they announce two days off it’ll be greeted with cheers. Then they’ll lock you down again.

For me Christmas has always been saved. I will do exactly what I want to do. I have stopped listing to anything the government says in about ….March?.. Nobody can tell me who I can have or not in my own fucking house !!

“It’s not funny, it’s not fr****n’ funny.

I’ve had enough of that ‘if you don’t laugh you’ll cry’.

“I’ve heard it for years. This stupid soddin’ city’s full of it.

“Why don’t you fight back, you b*****d? Fight back.

Boys from the Black Stuff

If only we could stage an introduction between ‘Shake Hands’ and that pathological liar and bald tyre extraordinaire Hankook, now that would be well worth watching!

“I’m desperate, Dan.”. An all time great line.

Hancock stated that asymptomatic people pass on COVID – I thought that this was incorrect. Evidence in an academic paper that I have seen suggests that this doesn’t happen. Anyone know if this does happen?

We all know he doesn’t have to tell the truth. Nobody in the MSM will challenge the lie.

Of course if asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic transmission doesn’t occur, or only does so with minimal viral load which doesn’t cause significant issues in anyone with any sort of working immune system, then it confirms most of the interventions are meaningless (and in some cases harmful) apart from staying at home if you have covid symptoms, and perhaps testing and completely separating symptomatic covid+ and other patients in hospitals, and similar measures in care homes.

Masks (regardless of their general non-efficacy) are irrelevant as you won’t be out of your home if you have symptoms.

And no need to quarantine if coming from abroad or isolate if someone in the household has symptoms, unless or until you yourself get symptoms

Closing pubs and restaurants is irrelevant as you won’t be in the pub if you have symptoms. And so social distancing and disinfecting protocols are broadly irrelevant too.

Stopping the meeting others in their houses will be irrelevant as you don’t meet up if someone has covid like symptoms.

And so on.

So the government have to keep on with the asymptomatic transmission position despite the very weak evidence of it happening (some Chinese publications which have been questioned I understand).

And if the government had just said stay at home if you have symptoms, and we will support you financially if you do, then assuming asymptomatic transmission isn’t of any material relevance and people do stay at home when with symptoms, then that would be all that was needed.

It’s a simple but very plausible explanation of the evidence that lockdowns don’t work.

Great post. So true

When this asymptomatic nonsense first started getting brought up, I looked into it and found this paper:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2646474/

The conclusion tells you what we already know:

A better understanding of transmission dynamics is essential in influenza pandemic planning. If a substantial proportion of transmission were to occur during the presymptomatic phase or from asymptomatic individuals, then infection control measures such as contact tracing and quarantine of exposures will be of limited value, in addition to constraints based on the short serial interval for influenza transmission. However, we have found limited evidence to suggest the importance of such transmission. The role of asymptomatic or presymptomatic influenza-infected individuals in disease transmission may have been overestimated in recent articles dealing with pandemic planning. More definitive influenza transmission studies are needed.

A mate commented on the farce yesterday. He asked if a year ago you could imagine making this phone call:

“Morning boss, I’m not coming in to today. I’ve got the flu, but I don’t have any symptoms”.

Back in May or June WHO said asymptomatic transmission was very rare, it was quickly suppressed!

Early on, Fauci said :

“ In all the history of respiratory-borne viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks. ”

The WHO have been very vague on the topic. Here’s the latest I can find on who.int (dated 2020-07-09):

“ Four individual studies from Brunei, Guangzhou China, Taiwan China and the Republic of Korea found that between 0% and 2.2% of people with asymptomatic infection infected anyone else, compared to 0.8%-15.4% of people with symptoms. ”

It’s also important to distinguish between asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic. Here’s the WHO again :

“What is the difference between people who are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic? Don’t they both mean someone without symptoms?

Yes, both terms refer to people who do not have symptoms. The difference is that asymptomatic refers to people who are infected but never develop symptoms during the period of infection while pre-symptomatic refers to infected people who have not yet developed symptoms but do go on to develop symptoms later.

This distinction is important for public health strategies to control transmission. For example, laboratory data suggests that people might be the most infectious at or around the time they develop symptoms. Therefore, in WHO’s case investigation and contact tracing guidance, it is recommended that people be considered ‘contacts’ if they had contact with an infected person from 2 days before that he/she developed symptoms.”

Without “asymptomatic transmission” the whole house of cards falls down.

It really does. I asked my local council covid idiots about whether they could provide me with ONE peer reviews bit of evidence that clearly shows asymptomatic transmission of SARS2CoV has happened between people. I bet they they cannot provide any clear evidence.

Not that that matters, I am sure they will just ignore me or palm me of with some old bollocks.

The World Health Organisation stated that asymptomatic transmission is “very rare” and added that they did not know of any definitely confirmed case.

However, Professor Boris Johnson told parliament that seventy percent of the transmission of the virus is asymptomatic. He did not cite any evidence, but he did add the nice rhetorical flourish: “as you all know” which means it must be true.

“Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am — not stuck in the middle, but hovering above the entire farcical spectrum, weeping as I behold my fellow man’s devotion to political illusion and self-destruction.”
― Robert Higgs

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I have volunteered for this- anyone else?

Thank you – have sent them a message.

Sorry to be negative, but I find myself a little sceptical about this group. They have been around for weeks and only sent out a few emails. Their website is not much more than a set of placeholders which has changed very little over the weeks. Would someone who represents them care to make a defence?

I don’t represent them, but things like this take time, resources, and effort to set up and get running.

I recall Boris once claimed that he was “bursting with spunk” and no doubt believes antibodies and spunk are one and the same thing, having had the benefit of a classical education.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6S17AEci08&feature=emb_logo

Woman tasered and arrested after refusing to put on a mask as a spectator at an outdoor sporting event in Ohio, USA.

Anyone here getting fed up with being treated by family, friends and colleagues as lepers? Of course they will deny this and claim that they’re doing this to protect you but the cynic in me wonders if they’re using the ‘rona as an excuse not to socialise with you or avoid you altogether. I’m reaching the point now where I can do without with certain people.

Sadly, I’m at that point too. I wonder if some of my friendships were ever friendships at all.

True and it brings to mind that saying that goes that you find out who the real friends are in times of crisis.

I try and see it as an opportunity to learn about peoples true nature. I have learnt more about some people in the last 6 months then I had learned in the last 20 years of knowing them.

My relatives barely communicate now.

Most depressingly, the friend with whom I do regular walks-a Nicola follower and lockdown adherent-opined yesterday, when I recounted the tale of the hapless London pastor :

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/this-essential-service-provide-police-19284735

that he should have followed the rules.

So, I find myself, an atheist, supporting the pastor, while she, a committed Christian condemns him.

The world has turned upside down.

Agree that the world has turned upside down.

I read that story and whilst not a believer I applaud that pastor who has been true to the message of Christ than the spineless cowards in the Church of England.

‘ Committed Christian’ now usually means ‘committed Covidian’.

Yep. I was dumped by someone I considered to be a friend. Someone who kept banging on about what her grandfather fought for in the war. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have fought for *this*. She thinks I am beyond the pale because this disease is “killing baybees” and I am not taking it seriously enough. Since I called her with an expression of regret over the recent theft at her shop (thought I would do the decent thing despite her being pretty horrible to me), I have heard nothing further from her. Nice.

The reaction to this virus will be killing plenty of babies in the third world due to economic deprivation and lack of access to vaccinations that are tried and tested (as opposed to the present attempts at warding off an illness with an IFR no worse than a bad flu season).

And we’re seeing this in developing countries where infanticide could be making a comeback, children being pulled out of school to go to work and desperate adults turning to prostitution.

Indeed. Very worrying!

It is. I was reminded of charities lobbying for the boycott of clothing factories in Bangladesh years ago. A few months’ later, a charity visited to see how everything was going and to their horror they found that many former employees had turned to prostitution and drug muling to get by.

It’s a prime example of selfish ‘conscience’. It doesn’t cost you a dime, and you go about in a comfortable glow of virtue, while the people actually affected go to perdition.

I know, but she doesn’t give a damn about that.

Very sorry to hear that.

I have a friend who while I appreciate that she’s been making the effort to chat online has not been willing to meet in person while is happy to meet others. I’ve decided to pull back and any plans for future meetings when this is all over in abeyance.

This happened tome during the first lockdown. My best friend deserted me, my cleaner fled and the only person I saw was a church lady who carried the heavy rubbish out for me at great speed. This time my new cleaning lady is coming as normal amd my new friend is willing to visit.

Very sad to hear that but at least you’ve found new friends.

Not quite treated as a leper, but more an annoyance. I have half the family who are sceptical but compliant. No matter what information is put in front of them they will not read it, they simply glaze over or change the topic. They really don’t want to know.

the other half are a combination of zealots and ostriches. Both want to avoid anything unpleasant so go along with the narrative. The more I show them the deeper they shove their heads in the sand.

It has been a fascinating and infuriating few months in terms of human behaviour. If I wasn’t already sceptical about the attitudes and intelligence of the ‘herd’ I think I would have had nervous breakdown by now.

Final note: If what we are all seeing and experiencing is something akin to what the elites see when they look at the masses then I can understand (up to a point) any inclination some of them may have for population control/reduction. Most of the people around us are literally NPC’s.

I got thrown out of my family’s What’s App group because I keep posting ” dangerous , covid denier, anti vaxxer , wacko propaganda” according to my sister in law. Well…there it is…I guess at least my wife tolerates me and she is getting to the sceptic side more and more.

Probably better for you not to be in that group. If your SIL thinks you’re a denier and a wacko, what will she say when the shit finally hits the fan for her and its too late?

One good thing about Covid has been that my sister in law no longer speaks to me after a row over it. She is a truly horrible woman and always has been so its a blessing not to have to ever see her again. She is a total zombie and has not been out of the house since February. Well thats a gain for the world!

Absolutely, I must say though that over the past say 20 years, I have become more and more cynical and distrustful of people. There are far too many selfish morons who only want or need you when it suits them or you fit into their agenda. In my case this includes family not just so called friends. I will clarify that I am a decent and caring person and therefore can get really upset at being treated like crap.

Sorry for my woe is me post, not in a good place today.

I know how you feel because like you I can get rather upset if I’m being treated like crap.Agree with you as well about people who will only want and need you when it suits them or fits their agenda. I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t fit these agendas so best to pull back and let the friendship die a natural death.

I was reading an article where that Countryfile lady was claiming that this pandemic has brought out the best in people. To which I would reply bollocks and poppycock.

How can anyone seriously think that with all the swerving and snitching and intolerance?

Due to the on-going psy-op on people’s minds over the last 20 years I don’t have any friends and I don’t really talk to my extended family. My relationship with my brother and parents is not good either. They believe…..

I don’t really exist.

Have not really spoken to my family either and have pretty much unfollowed them on anti-social media as you can imagine how all hell will break loose if I make a comment about muzzles and especially a 5 and 3 year old kid having to wear them.

Such wickedness making small children wear them.

You dont really need them….I have ditched my brother over this…sod them.

Pretty much found out all my ‘friends’ were in name only. Thankfully, I have a very close family.

I have found family are much worse than friends!

I can do without zombies.I’m doing just fine without zombies.

True. Unfortunately i have to work with some of them.

We’ve dropped quite a few people over this Covidiocy after being drawn into mask arguments (of course they work, you’re just selfish!) and pro-lockdown arguments “to be safe!). Sick of the whole sniveling lot.

Packed stadium of maskless fans in China;

https://twitter.com/RadioSavana/status/1327167016457957376

And in Taiwan https://www.narcity.com/en-ca/news/taiwan-ultra-music-festival-is-what-happens-when-you-dont-have-any-covid19-in-200-days

They are laughing at the West!

But they’re tracked, traced and controlled by China’s social credit system. They’re not free

Neither are we

Can anyone point me in the direction of a concise and objective table of mortality probability by age and comorbidity for the UK that is up to date please.
I saw one for Scotland, and obviously have out of date versions.
It seems that printing this off and flyposting is the only way to go, as so many people genuinely believe this to be far worse than it is.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/wisconsin-state-agency-tells-employees-to-wear-masks-during-zoom-calls-even-if-home-alone

Logic went out the window months ago

There goes my alcohol-free evening.

3 months ago. No harm in laughing at it again, I guess.

Don’t know if it’s been posted on here yet. The video was on Column UK yesterday

A 19year old female arrested in Truro

She was addressing a small group of people.

Was she inciting the group to attack the police…. No

Was she advocating revolution …….. No

In measured tones she was stating that the arts and creativity are central to the human condition and should not be banned

For this crime against the dictatorship she was dragged off by the Stasi

She was held in a cell for 24 hours

Whilst in custody she was interrogated at length, presumably in an effort to get her to denounce other art lovers

Below is the email address of the Police and Crime Commissioner for Devon and Cornwall

If you do nothing else today stand in Solidarity with this courageous young lady and e mail

opcc@devonandcornwall.pnn.police.uk

That (maskless! lol) hyped-up little fascist copper bawling at everyone to stay back while they abduct the innocent teenage girl in the name of the state? That’s Mr Britain, 2020.

Do you have a link for the video(s)

The hyped up one was actually an Inspector (braid on his cap peak) although it is difficult to tell as he was hiding his insignia (I wonder why? I to would be ashamed of myself I behaved like that)

https://twitter.com/ukcolumn/status/1328420075838332928

Her arrest

https://youtu.be/1MTuA9-aqCs

Watch from 39.10. The Police Inspector is hysterical and keeps shouting ‘a bubbles been formed’ before attacking people

He clearly has mental health problems. He should not be in uniform let alone in charge

Yes,there is something seriously wrong with him,in fact there is something seriously wrong with a lot of coppers all over the country.From the videos I have seen,the uncalled for aggression,which often seems to appear out of nowhere in an instant and the robotic lack of humanity and empathy implies the use of some kind of behaviour altering substance to me.

that substance being our education system or lack thereof

A thousand times YES

I know, disgusting. I’m convinced the police are being fed drugs or it’s the mask that turns people into some sort of animal, lack of oxygen, common purpose indoctrination???. Also see the community police officer talking to the chap videoing the situation. She is clearly working from a script, hiding behind her mask, complete lack of empathy, human feeling, sympathy. Sad.

Do these police realise they are being manipulated and used. Surely they have families.

Decades ago the Guardian would publish articles about these types of abuses in China

Cops on steroids

I think they are, imo during lockup they have been trained and brainwashed into fighting us. No longer the ‘boys in blue’ dress them like soldiers and they act like soldiers.

They’ve been like that for years look back to the miners strikes in the 80s and how football fans are treated now they’re coming for the general public

Remember the Beanfield attack on the crusties, savage.

Now the Guardian regards China as the fount of all rational political sense

Do we have any idea what specific law she was held under? was it one of the Public Health act statutory instruments? There was a post yesterday which I cannot now find about your rights etc. under these statutory instruments, I am not a great demonstrator but if I was going to anything I think it would be as well to have a good idea of the legal position. The whole legal case for all these actions is looking quite shaky to my mind.

I hope this story is picked up on and shared around the world.

Public respect for the Police is being tested

The UK Column covered this yesterday.

The young woman arrested got charged with:

Encouraging/Assist in the Comission of an either way offence believing it will be comimitted-Serious Crime Act 2007

Bail conditions: Not to Facilitate Encourage or actively promote the breach of COVID_19 Restrictions

Bail conditions: To prevent further offences and protect the public

May she ignore those conditions and continue to live her life as she wishes, and may the zombies who attacked and kidnapped her suffer the consequences

This is really shocking and deserves a headline here tomorrow.
The police are picking off brave dissidents from small groups with of course MSM complicity.
On talk radio this pm Lawrence Fox said he was prepared to defy the rules and be arrested at a demo if we stay locked down in December .
We need to stand up and be counted pursue the police bullies in the courts for damages.
Appears they now accept the police fines are unenforceable.

Done..

Anyone else think that Hancock is being teed up as the fall guy in Boris’ absence?

No. It is the nation and all its citizens that are being teed up for a fall. Our politicians have already crowned themselves kings and the people have clapped and cheered.

Unless he’s going to be shoved out of a plane at 20,000 feet with no parachute, the odious little oik won’t be falling far enough.

Agreed; I’ve suspected for some time now that he’s being set up as the Useful Idiot, the Fall Guy who can be ridiculed and pilloried-rightly so-while his wily colleagues figure out a way out of the mess.

Deniability has always been favoured in establishment circles the world over.

No. He’s a monster. I thought originally that he was just going to be a “useful idiot” who would take the rap but I’ve moved away from that position. My next thought was that he was wicked, but I fear I have moved beyond that to the view that he is evil. I fear he is actively promoting misery and death. He frightens me.

If he is, he deserves it, for being such a massive tool

A really good update today. Guy de la Bédoyère’s interesting thoughts permit me to post the Corbett Report’s emmense work on the out break of WW1. It goes into detail of how the war was contrived and by who, parallels to today can be drawn as Guy does. It is thought provoking and well researched.
https://www.corbettreport.com/wwi/

It’s sad that we are only taught such a basic narrow view of WW1 and WW2 in the UK and that this is reinforced by the mainstream media.

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The restrictions will cease to have effect 28 days from the date on which these Regulations are made.

Change ‘law’ into ‘lie’ by changing one letter at a time…

UK Government has made life under ‘Covid’ unlivable. Human suffering is catastrophic.

Whilst assisted suicide and humane methods of ending life are illegal we can still die of poverty, hunger, loneliness, cancelled medical treatment, homelessness, despair and desperation

There is no place for humanity in the Great Reset

Millions do care, but don’t know what to do about it

motto

Re: Fear Starmers call to ban all “anti vax” voices. How does this work within the Labour Parties drive to make Big Pharma more transparent? Seems a bit conflicted to me..

https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Medicines-For-The-Many.pdf

Slightly off topic, but I’m still revolted by the Labour Party’s “for the many” trope and wearily unsurprised that they’re continuing it under Starmer, who after all worked so hard to get Corbyn elected PM. It’s such a short journey from that slogan to actual genocide. “For the many, not the few. Exclude the few. Blame the few. Feel good about yourself because you’re not one of the few. Denounce the few. Punish the few. Make the world a lovelier, kinder, gentler place. Exterminate the few.”
The Labour Party is still repulsive.

I thought at the time, that my home town was making a rod for it’s own back. The results appear to be:
Positive tests 0.4%
Acknowledged error rate 0.4%
Prevalence in population that has previously triggered tier 3 lockdown 400 per 100,000. I.e. 0.4%.

As far as I can see, as long as it keeps mass testing, Liverpool can never come out of lockdown.

It’s a PCR test pandemic or casedemic. The sheeple are too stupid to ask what a case is

“In terms of the unfavourable comparison of Sweden to the death rates of its neighbours”

Whenever this comes up can we bridge and compare Belgium to Germany and the Netherlands.

IT’s time to nail this particular framing trickery once and for all.

Even the comparison to it’s neighbours doesn’t hold water though. I checked euromomo yesterday and Sweden has better than average all cause mortality than Norway and Denmark right now. All three are on or about the baseline. Only Finland is doing significantly better and that’s not “covid related” because it’s all cause.

A very good comparator for Sweden is Scotland. Similar climate/latitude. Similar density, with a populated bit & then loads of nothing. Sweden has 2x the population but not hugely different.

Plus – other differences in factors:

Higher immigrant population in Sweden than rest of Scandi.

Larger care homes.

Many care home workers worked at multiple homes – spreaders.

Previous winter in Sweden was also milder I think, in terms of deaths, than in other Scandinavian countries – ‘tinder effect’.

Re Masks at school

Notice of Liability for Schools

You can serve this notice to your school principal/head

 This document can be downloaded, though in PDF, you can copy and paste the contents into a word document to add the necessary personal and relevant information.

https://covileaks.co.uk/the-documents?fbclid=IwAR2MerXfa3-AGAi_bey8f5Z2KlQYLRiiCsbMYwYoJ_VOjPDbvChBx0ZBE_g

If you have permitted the school to force your child to wear a face covering you have already failed as a parent. Trying to make the school liable for the harm caused is not going to protect your child from harm.

It makes me wonder if teachers and schools actually hate children

If I had a child I would not allow a school to damage my child’s emotional and physical health with face masks

Speak out about this scam…& get suspended/sacked.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-nurse-suspended-after-branding-23020112

Yikes … is that journalist trying to get the elites’ attention or what?

I can’t disagree with anything she says, truth obviously hurts!

I suspect the notion that Sweden’s Covid policy was predicated on herd immunity was a myth believed largely by non-Swedish lockdown sceptics. It’s more likely that the Swedes believed that whatever restrictions they passed would have to be sustainable until there was a vaccine, because harsher restrictions would merely postpone deaths until after the restrictions were lifted (especially if they had such an effect on mental health that people went nuts when they were lifted).

Perhaps Sweden’s harder line now is because they understand that the falling case and death rates in spring were largely due to the seasonality of the illness (which is why they’re increasing now even though Sweden hasn’t really relaxed any of its restrictions) and that harder restrictions will save lives as well as being tolerated by the public because we’re so much closer to a vaccine now.

It’s just stronger recommendations in one area isn’t it? I get MSM and bedwetters are creaming themselves at hearing this but it’s hardly a massive departure from what is already in place.

Euromomo shows all cause mortality in Sweden flatlining.

https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

Coronaviruses are seasonal, which means that more people will die after having ‘tested positive’.

Doesn’t mean they died of something called covid-19.

There is no evidence that an illness ‘covid-19’ is increasing in frequency, or that it even still exists.

all cause mortality in sweden currently running below 5 year average

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden#cite_note-hitta-statistik-308

This October saw the 2nd lowest number of deaths for an October here – in the whole of Swedish history!

Giesecke seemed to think it would be a long time before there was any kind of truly effective vaccine and did not think tighter lockdowns would solve anything.

It will be interesting to see what happens if Löfven passes his law *despite* falling ICU levels and with deaths being below average, and with him clearly being in disagreement with Tegnell. Also how Swedes will take this..many do not actually do any research for themselves.

I suspect Löfven has been emboldened by Biden’s ‘victory’ in the election – the media here is very anti-Trump.. (though if you talk to a lot of Swedes, there are more pro-Trump people than the media would lead you to believe)

ONS weekly mortality just out

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

slight rise on last week. would not warrant a single measure in any normal year

Quality of life doesn’t matter though

What counts as slight? Mortality is 20% (1900) above 10-year mean, 1200 above 10-year historic maximum. Mortality will continue to grow for another week or two until Tiers and Lockdown play out up to 25-50% above mean.

Are we now seeing the rise in deaths caused by delayed/nonexistent treatment for cancer, heart conditions etc during 1st lockdown?

.

Not yet, CV deaths have remained stable. Oncology will rise, but this is following mortality from deaths withing 28 days of test for COVID19

It’s very noticeable that with the vaccine push beginning in earnest, resistance is now being responded to much more regularly with accusations of being “anti-vaxxer”, even if vaccination itself is not part of the immediate conversation. This is of course no accident or chance occurrence.

We must always bear in mind that:

1 Broadcast and print media, as well as the BBC operate as propaganda vehicles for the elites who run them, and for the government when it is in line with those establishment views;

2 The panic response to covid is driven by professionals in behavioural manipulation and propaganda with essentially unlimited state funding and the power of the state behind them;

3 The technique and process of smearing and delegitimising dissenters is well established, and one the BBC and other manipulative bodies and outlets have used for half a century and more against those with politically incorrect opinions that the establishment wished to suppress. “Anti-vax” and “far right” are essentially the same as “sexist”, “racist”, “homophobe” etc used by the BBC since the mid-C20th.

The technique is basically one of systematically flexible meaning. When the smear terms are being constructed and in order to imbue them with sufficiently demonic evilness in the popular eye, they are applied to the worst, most extreme, irrational, nasty or outright evil cases. Then, with the negative connotations in place, the definition is expanded to include the moderates with views that are intended to be demonised by association. The attitudes, structures and policies set up to deal with the extreme cases can then be applied to those moderates, or they can be intimidated by the threat of that being done. If the unreasonableness of this is pointed out, the definition retreats to the safe ground of the worst cases. “Don’t you think these people are bad and should be controlled? You must be one of them, or a sympathiser.”. It’s a form of the fallacy known as motte and bailey

In the case of anti-vax, much of the demonisation work has already been done in the course of past political contests over vaccination policy.

The force of this attack should not be underestimated, merely because it is so cynically dishonest. It worked to make what were once commonly held opinions in this country (indeed throughout most of human history and most cultures) into demonised extremism outside the Pale of acceptable discourse, and made it impossible to effectively advocate for even moderate views which then became the “extreme end” of acceptability, and thus through the later C20th it warped public policy and law in this country in favour of radicalism and infringement of basic rights to liberty and speech.

What can be done? Well, the record shows that this propaganda approach is likely to be successful. It has been in the past. All we can do is learn from that.

But one good start would be to push for ending the BBC’s privileged position. There should be no state broadcaster or news service – any such is inherently a tool for propaganda and manipulation.

Another would be to attack the very notion of government engaging in opinion management and behavioral manipulation. These are antithetical to both liberty and democracy. If they are going to engage professional manipulators to impose compliance, they should at least have to do it secretly and illegally.

Agreed but their manipulation of the language didn’t work with Brexit.

Indeed, though not for lack of trying. I still recall the numerous attempts to have Farage and others harassed by the police for “racism” of various kinds.

Brexit and the 2016 Trump election are the only two major strikes back, against the tide that has otherwise flowed pretty uniformly in their direction throughout the anglosphere for decades.

Add ‘conspiracy theorist’ and ‘climate denier’ to the list.

Indeed. “Conspiracy theorist” is a smear term par excellence, and any kind of “denier” is generally on the list of dishonest political smears.

Interesting article on anti vaxxers.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/

The last US Administration, apparently, used to call Boris Johnson a “shape-shifting creep”. When i was at college in the early 90`s, David Icke was a figure of fun for us students, but now, as someone well into middle age, I can only agree with much with what Icke has written. Savile, political child abuse, nwo, censorship, vaccine fascism ; these are just a few nasties which have come to pass.
However, would be interested to know as to whether the likes of Boris and Hancock are actually “non -human” in some way, the evidence seems overwhelming.

A good metaphor:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/victorlipman/2013/04/25/the-disturbing-link-between-psychopathy-and-leadership/

Getting to the top in business and politics requires that you be ready to sacrifice personal relationships and all of lifes little joys for the purpose, because there is tremendous no holds barred competition for such positions.

Therefore, such people, for whom those things have very little meaning anyway, have a huge advantage.

Erich Fromm wrote a book called ‘To have or to be?”

If you wish to enjoy life and people then you choose ‘to be’.

If you choose to pursue wealth and power, then you choose ‘to have’.

Bozo hasn’t given up his personal relationship with Carrie to get to the top rather the reverse. Perhaps he never expected to last.

At that level all other people are instruments.

All relationships within the orbit of power are touched and changed and conditioned by it.

Film director Stanley Kubrick once told someone: “Never, ever, get close to power”

There are examples of decency in politics and business.

The late Mr Hays of Hays Travel seems to be sorely mourned by family, colleagues and customers alike.

Trying to think of any in politics, I will get back to you!! Tony Benn?

Ken Clarke

John Smith, Frank Field, Charlie Kennedy, Kate Hoey, Rory Stewart (?)

In politics – yes.

In power – no.

“There are examples of decency in politics and business.”

Sure, I agree.

It is a tendential law though, that the readier you are to instrumentalize other people, while managing to simulate emapthy, the likelier it is that you will reach a powerful position, which Benn never did.

This is simply because, that if you truly empathize with other people, then the necessary sacrices of this empathy, in order to attain power, would entail vast psychic costs.

Remember, you will be in competition with others, who having less empathy, will not incur these psychic costs because they don’t care.

I had many good holidays through Hays travel.Heartbreaking that they are being driven to the wall because of this green lunacy.

The trick with David Icke is that you take in what you want. You can listen without taking everything in. He has enough people who pay to see him for that.

That said, a lot of what he says (which is a summary of stuff you can find on the internet) is not looking so “out there” now. Which raises the question: why does it take so long for people to see this?

The narrative is solidifying around needing a vaccine. Why did we need one in the first place? Interesting that the narrative never solidified around the principles of individuality and choice.

The narrative has always been about a vaccine as the only saviour, it’s just been cranked up now they’re closing in on deployment.

I cannot say it enough.The vaccine is key to the control grid that they want to usher in.This will lead to the digital/health passport.Once we are all tracked and traced they can move to the next step which is digital currencies.

Yes, if they get that far we are done for.

The vaccine is the means to the end, ie the bigger agenda..

Note that David Ike was permitted to exist on YouTube until Covid appeared at which time he was abruptly cancelled.

Icke still has a wide global audience and is probably too influential to simple bump off now. Many other talented online commentators on these topics have been “disappeared in totality” in the last year or so.

He was permitted until he linked Covid and 5g which shows how important that technology is to them

Interesting, where did you read that about the US administration’s opinion of BJ?
Is that ‘last’ as in Obama’s?

I swear Matt Wankock makes my piss boil. I ended up stopping watching that interview because I was going to punch my TV.
The smarmy, slimey, fucking weasel that he is.

It’s only PD, nut nuts, handy cock and generic left in the bunker now

(oh and possibly a German Shepperd)

A couple just been picked up in Italy trying to board a ship to Argentina

Won’t be long now

[whimpering rises to a low but piercing whine]

“Speaking with HuffPost UK’s Commons People podcast, as noted by Metro , Conservative Tom Tugendhat has warned that he could ‘certainly see the day’ when proof of vaccination was required to return to normal life.
‘If vaccination works and if we’re confident it’s safe, and all indications so far are good, then I can certainly see the day when businesses say: “Look, you’ve got to return to the office and if you’re not vaccinated you’re not coming in,”‘ he added.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/uk-citizens-could-be-banned-going-work-without-proof-covid-vaccination

Surely, if you go unvaccinated into an office, where everyone else is vaccinated, then you can do them no harm.

And these vaccines aren’t even being tested to see if they prevent transmission! https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037

I think you can shorten that sentence :

“And these vaccines aren’t even being tested”

… well, not in any way known by accepted standards of validation.

If anyone can’t smell something rat-like, they may well actually have Covid.

A vaccine does not prevent transmission; it confers immunity from the disease on the vaccinated individual.

Stop being so f.ing logical – you’re breaking the rules of the game.

Actually, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of a vaccine for a seasonal virus being claimed as a protection for the population as a whole.

“Confident it’s safe”- pull the other one Tugentwat.

That’s what they said about the Titanic

Most people I know are going to call their bluff.

Nudge, nudge…

If a vaccine is effective, the vaccinated individual is immune from the disease regardless of whether anyone else is vaccinated or not. Vaccination is not a public health measure; it is a clinical treatment.

Surely, if you go unvaccinated into an office, where everyone else is vaccinated, then you can do them no harm.

You anti-vaxxer, you …

It makes me more angry that the supposed real Tories are sitting around and allowing this take down of the UK. Is it all revenge for trying to remove them from the EU gravy train?

In much of Europe it is worse then here and their citizens didn’t try and remove them from the EU gravy train.

Agree, but they all seem to have their own agenda. NZ, got everyone captive and convinced they all need to be vaccinated, hardly any deaths. They think their captivity has saved their lives.

It seems to me they are all working towards the same agenda but methods are tweaked for each country. Here stroking the ego of the NHS worker and exploiting our religious devotion to the organisation was a key part of getting our compliance while keeping as many as possible quite.

I don’t understand how the French have been so thoroughly controlled. Their compliance and the totality of it I find more surprising then the British.

Presumably every government has a team of physiologists tasked with finding the optimum way to terrorise the population into compliance with their own destruction. I think that what we see as different agendas is more the result of careful manipulation of each population and what agendas they might accept with least anger.

The government have been very careful throughout to just turn the screw enough.I believe that there is a blueprint they all have to follow but it can be adjusted as and when according to the pushback received.Thats probably why Johnson was angry over the second lockdown leak as they hadn’t had enough time to gauge the public reaction.Cue the testing of the water over Christmas lockdown.

It’s global

The ‘Not so Great Reset’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swfyslAaz2o

Oh, and the BBC were talking about it back in 2011:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p00kt6yr

Started listening to the Piers Morgan Wanksock interview above. I bailed out when Morgan said we locked down 2 weeks late and consequently 25,000 extra people died.

Utter nonsense

i`m with Alex Belfield when it comes to PM.

I presume Piers Morgan is ignoring the deaths caused by lockdown?

I imagine if his own salary was threatened by lockdown he might have a different opinion. Likewise George Galloway.

That must be a new record for most nauseating LS headline picture.

Agreed!

Why do we need a vaccine? All I’ve got is’ to get back to normal’. For a virus that affects only 1% with underlying conditions, that is extreme. Even the world wide death number doesn’t appear to convince people that this is low mortality, the propaganda really is drowning out the truth.

Because of what else they are going to add to the vaccine, also because they want to force covipasses on us..

yeah, i see no reason for a vaccine.

I do for older people. And actually the way it’s gone. Older people remain often working people. So while it’s good that it’s not all ages, it is fairly common for people to be working at 70 + these days – indeed the pension age group will likely be 70 soon enough, so that’s a big part of society that needs to be kept working. And that’s the reality here. They don’t want to be pensioning off 60 + year olds. They can’t afford it. This is ultimately about keeping the older people working I feel.

They can’t afford it

That is so funny. Have you not noticed, Rishi Sunak found an endless magic money forest?

The type of normal where people have to present their papers to go anywhere or do anything and have to submit to whatever arbitrary demands the government dreams up to get those papers. The type of normal where the government still considers it has the authority to dictate every aspect of people existence and shut down peoples business as it sees fit. Normal only by the standard of nazi Germany or similar.

The reason people say this is that it is what they have been programmed to say.

Posted a request earlier today with no takers so sending again.
I really would like an up to date UK mortality from Covid percentage by age and comorbidity risk chart, but can only find Scotland and older UK versions.
I genuinely feel that this kind of raw data is either not known at all by people, or considered to be fake. Lockdown must be fought by constant use of statistical data to cut through the fear. Any help much appreciated!

Have you looked on Pandata.org? They have live data, you might find what you’re looking for there. Alternatively, you might find it on https://adapnation.io

Even if not, they’re both good resources.

Listening to TalkRadio is now a patchy affair. The news segment is provided by Sky I believe. So apparently disinfecting parcels and cards is the order of the day as the virus may last up to 24 hours on surfaces.

By that logic so have other types of viruses. Why are we becoming germaphobic? I don’t give a monkey’s myself but the Covidian Cult is getting obscene now.

I really enjoy the long haired Coast guy (sorry can`t remember his name) on talk radio, sensible man.

that is his name as far as I am aware

Neil Oliver

No need to actually listen live though. All the interesting stuff seems to be posted here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4TDABwZ19w
Like this one.. Green party sounding just like Princess Nut Nut.

Raheem Kassam of The National Pulse, and who is often on War Room, knows Ms Symonds and says she is dangerous…

On 2020-03-17, the NIH said :

“ SARS-CoV-2 was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. ”

This assessment is based on an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine:

N van Doremalen, et al. Aerosol and surface stability of HCoV-19 (SARS-CoV-2) compared to SARS-CoV-1 . DOI: 10.1056/NEJMc2004973 (2020) .