2020-11-26

Good morning everyone.
Sad to hear about the tiers. What more can one say.

That your anti-lockdown alternative & fringe corporate media is not even remotely effective in creating pressure to end lockdown. Because it’s not meant to.

Government says there must be this thing, so better go along then. That’s what I see being sold and bought here.

Prohibition And Covid-19; Part One: War On The People

Dear ROAS

If you supported the lockdowns, shut the hell up about the reckoning By Laura Perrins
November 26, 2020
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/if-you-supported-the-lockdowns-shut-the-hell-up-about-the-reckoning/

In the comments section on this piece there is a photo of Matt Hancock meeting Klaus Schwab at Davos – VERY SINISTER

TWITTER Darren of Plymouth @DarrenPlymouth
16 Nov

Klaus Schwab and Matt Hancock at Davos , they discussed the 4th Industrial Revolution. (2018)

We know it as a conspiracy called #TheGreatReset

KEEP WRITING TO YOU MPS ABOUT THIS EVIL

Hi All, so I wrote a terse, scalding but factually accurate (with references) letter to my MP last month questioning his support for the lastest lockdown measures, given that he had previously wrote (back) to me quoting Vallance and Whitty’s graph-of-doom and worst case scenario predictions in another semi-related matter.

I got a reply to my latest letter, I won’t waste anyone’s time with the entire response, but key was this (bold mine):

I fully recognise concerns expressed by constituents that national restrictions were put in place in response to modelling which did not factor in regional measures established through the tiered system. However, while I understand that there was a mistake in plotting the confidence intervals, which was corrected as soon as it was identified, there was no error in the underlying analysis or advice to government. On that basis, the medium-term projections on daily deaths and hospital admissions for the next six weeks remain the same, and have not been altered: this means that, with no further action taken, we would be likely to breach the first wave of hospital admissions and deaths in a matter of weeks. At present, the R rate remains above 1 in England, meaning that infections, hospitalisations and deaths continue to double nationally.

So in other words, even though projections of 50K infections/day in mid-October, 4K deaths/day in early December, and completely overrun hospitals by mid-November have never even come close to being materialised, that doesn’t change the analytical decision making process up to date??!! WTF?

Furthermore, the following is completely incorrect as there is not a shred of evidence based on past minister’s actions to support this:

I agree that it is vital that we act on the latest data available to ensure that the most appropriate actions are taken at the most appropriate time. I know my colleagues throughout the Government agree with this principle, and are working with researchers, scientific advisers, and data teams to ensure that they have access to information as quickly as possible. I also welcome that the Government is continuing to make data publicly available.

And lastly, this is good:

I am receiving a very high volume of e-mails and other correspondence at present due to COVID-19 …… My small team of staff and I are focusing on these cases; therefore, I am unable to provide you with a running commentary or provide a plethora of answers on the Government’s handling of the virus or the data being used.

So fuck off and don’t write back … ever.

Sigh, so really, is there any point writing to him anymore?

Jesus! Sorry, just had to rant!

Yours in disgust!
Dave

I’ve met and written to my MP many times over the years. I’m not under any illusion that it has made the slightest difference, but at least I feel I’ve made an effort. However in the last month I’ve tried repeatedly phoning – on her local office number, that of the Conservative constituency office (in the same building), and even the published number at the HOC. Not once has anyone answered – all I get is “We are too busy to get to the phone” etc. I left a couple of messages, but (predictably) no reply. Defeatist that I may be, I’m simply not going to waste my time writing or emailing, as I know what the result will be. A quick look at her website yesterday confirmed that she just regurgitates Tory Head Office blurb – the most recent “News” even includes the “Build Back Better” and “Green Recovery” crap. Suffice to say, the next time we cross paths – probably when she comes knocking at my door looking for votes – the response will be very frosty.

On further thought, I doubt that I’ll either be 1) still alive, or 2) still living at this address in 4 years time. I suspect by then she will have decided motherhood is more important than representing constituents…

Better to write to the ones who say they’ll vote against next week.

Here’s a scarcely veiled call to action by Sammy Wilson:

My great fear is that many of the liberties which are being removed from us are going to be very hard to restore and for all these reasons I will continue to oppose them and I hope that an increasing number of MP’s in the House of Commons will join me in the lobbies. It is surprising how many agree with me privately, but publicly will not vote against the restrictions for a range of reasons. I hope as a result of public pressure and the gradual realisation that what they are being asked to vote for is ineffective anyway, the Government will soon find it impossible to impose these restrictions on our country.

My own (Tory) MP is useless and a completely lost cause. However, next week, I intend to ask him if he will vote with the Labour Party for a totalitarian dictorship, or will vote to uphold the constitutional rights and freedoms of his electorate.

Our lobbying the anti-lockdown MPs might give them ammo to convert some of the sceptical ones into voting against.

If anyone has a list of the rebels, it would be very useful. Please ask Toby to to include it in the newsletter, like he did before.

I think Guido Fawkes website has a list of rebel MPs. Mine isn’t among them, and when I wrote to ask why the response indicated that “hundreds of thousands of people will die”. Needless to say I’ll not be voting for him again.

Wow, not even time to forward you a boilerplate response? How hard they must work for their £100K.

My Labour MP straight up admitted that she simply voted in line with her Labour colleagues. Screw the constituents, the party is where it’s at.

To be fair to her, that is exactly what MP’s should do. They are not elected to exercise their judgement unless they stand as independents. If they stand for a party then they should almost always follow the party whip.

I don’t agree with that. MPs should represent their constituents, first and foremost. The way they represent them is by following party doctrine. If the people want better healthcare, a socialist MP will vote for social measures, and a libertarian MP will vote for a free market solution (can’t really say a Tory MP, because this is the UK and most parties are all for social measures, so it wouldn’t be a very good example). But his or her goal should still be to deliver better healthcare to their constituents, no matter what the party wants.

If the public wants something radically different from what the MP wants (because public opinion changed since the MP was elected) and there can be no reconciliation, i believe the MP should stand down rather than impose party ideology on the people.

If the sole purpose of MPs is to vote according to party directives, then why bother asking MPs to vote for anything? The leader of the majority party says ‘yea’ or ‘nay’ and that’s it, show’s over.

“infections, hospitalisations and deaths continue to double nationally.”

What? R above 1 = infections doubling? That’s wrong. Anyway, even if it was, doubling in how many days? It’s just utter meaningless nonsense!

Ronnie Campbell, the old Blyth Valley MP for life who supported Brexit because he could see which way his fiefdom was going, had to be taught to write his own name by his union so he could sign documents. These thick, entitled bastards don’t deserve public office.

How many MPs already know about the Great Reset? How many are on board with it?

The longer this goes on, the more and more the UK public will come to view MPs as their jailors and not their representatives

Laura Perrins is correct in what she says about those who supported the lockdowns sharing the guilt for the havoc they have caused. Like many others though she still assumes that the government has acted out of stupidity, fear and panic. A proper look at things will tell you, that the government is clearly acting to further the interests of a globalist cabal and is doing so at the expense and wellbeing of its own citizens.

Read the comments underneath – they are nearly all pointing this out. MW

Hancock is a piece of shit so is Johnson

“That your anti-lockdown alternative & fringe corporate media is not even remotely effective in creating pressure to end lockdown. Because it’s not meant to.”

What do you mean by “your” media? What is this fringe corporate media of which you speak>

“Government says there must be this thing, so better go along then. That’s what I see being sold and bought here.”

Sorry, too subtle for me. What is being bought and sold, where?

I’ve looked at PWL’s site. I was none the wiser for doing so. Seems to think they have the answer to all our problems, though.

I looked once before and was none the wiser

Tears would be a more appropriate term.

As far as I can see, this means the pub sector is doomed. It’s going to be shuttered indefinitely on 2. Meals are not some way out here. This is jaw dropping.

I’d like to suggest “Iron Hand” by Dire Straits as a theme song. It’s about the Battle of Orgreave during the miner strikes in the ’80s. It’s about the legalised violence and sheer abuse of power shown by police forces towards protesters. Towards the people. I thought it’s fitting, considering the current behaviour of the police towards people.
https://youtu.be/1oHfnggzIaA

Let’s not forget the BBC edited footage to show the miners charging the police first, when in reality it was the police who made the first mother way round

Not sure how anyone can honestly believe a state funded network can be impartial.

It is all standard practice these days. Produce fake news, filled with lies and manipulation, and then later claim that it was a mistake and “we apologise for any inconvenience”. But by that point the damage is done. The narrative you wanted to uphold passed, the public were deceived, and no one bothers looking at the amendments.
Sometimes i wish that the press be held legally responsible for deliberately publishing demonstrable lies and inaccuracies. The media has a lot of power and a lot of freedom, but freedom and power must come with responsibilities, and one such responsibility has to be to not deceive or lie to the public.

Excellent. Ashamed to say the subject of the song never occurred to me. A Lockdown sceptics anthem…

If only Arthur were in charge of the People’s Republic he would know what to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2BryPAxJdc

BBCFNC some surprises here, all is not as BBC, Guardian, Michael Mansfield would have you believe.

Mansfield is one of the good guys so is Johnathan Sumption hates the establishment and Royalty bullshit

Brilliant. In those days the working class left would have led the protests, together with students. Since then, the destruction of the traditional industries, followed by the state dependence created by the Blair years has neutralised the working class, and students are more interested in their ‘identities’.
It is that dependence on the state, and the rise of identity politics as a narcissistic distraction, that has paved the way for the current compliance of most of the population.

Well, it’s still the left that organizes protests and riots, as we can see from the US. But the greatest trick of the ruling classes was to fool the left in rioting for them rather than against them. It probably has to do with the fact that the left is no longer working class.

Indeed and first spotted during the anti-brexit protests. As someone memorably said “I remember when the youth protested against the establishment – now they protest in favour of it”

And the billionaire newspaper barons who propagandized the public to vote for Brexit are somehow not “the establishment”?

Not entirely sure, to be honest, but i don’t think so. I don’t think Brexit was something the establishment wanted, and that’s very apparent from how it was sabotaged at every step.

Sabotaged at every step is what I see as ‘managed’.
Start of with a brand name and then control the opposition,
Hedge your bets both ways. Fear and division – like dolphins working the shoal. Now the feeding frenzy.

A fair point to make. Many people on here would subscribe to the idea of the MSM influencing the masses especially in relation to Covid. Would point out though that the government and the television news people were rabid remainers and propagandised accordingly… and that the present pro lockdown propaganda dwarfs the puny efforts of both leave and remain

Although some people believe that leavers are gullible… remainers and pro lockdown fanatics are wise and wonderful human beings…

Excellent reply.. as someone in my late 60s I’ve been thinking about exactly the things you’ve mentioned..

David Wilkie taxi driver 9/7/1949 – 30/11/1984. Lest we forget. I womder if Arthur has forgotten him as he sits in his swanky Barbican flat (bought for £1million, half price, using Thatcher’s right to buy policy although it isn’t his only home, still cheaper than having to pay the rent as he was finally forced to).

Good Morning Judy.

BBC Radio spent yesterday sneering at Rishi Sunak as the cost of the Deadly Pandemic began to emerge, all of their news and programme presenters used variations of

‘told you so it’s all your fault and now there’s gonna be tax rises and cutbacks !’

As though they had not enthusiastically supported lockdown from the start and beyond.
One or two even figured out what has been predicted here at LS for months. That the debt incurred by lockdown will take generations to repay.

On a brighter note the audience for Question Time has slumped to 600,000, its lowest ever.

One day the BBC will come round to the idea that lockdown was the wrong policy right from the start. Probably too late to do any good, but it will.

And when they do, they’ll grandstand about it in self-glorifying sanctimonious outrage like you wouldn’t believe. Conveniently forgetting that they have done more to brainwash the population than anyone else.

Too right they will.

I don’t think they will. The narrative is always going to be that the lockdowns would have worked if only the troublesome people had obeyed the ‘rules’ properly. If only the authorities had clamped down sooner on ‘dangerous misinformation’ etc.

It’s that age old defence used by abusers, “You MADE me do it to you”.

I agree with you, Barney. Myths become established in the mainstream media and the myth here will be as you say, plus lockdown should have been earlier and harsher.

Incidentally, are Pugh, Pugh, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb also lockdown sceptics?

Arrogant organisations find it very difficult to admit that they were wrong and the mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance will continue for a very long time despite mounting evidence. Eventually the truth is admitted and previous views quietly buried, and everyone was a member of the French Resistance.

Agree with this, except for the assumption that they were wrong. They played their scripted part in the ‘great’ reset.

They might well change their tune in the future, but what they say then will probably be lies as well.

I know that has to happen but the games they’ll play to wring their hands of the complicity will be excruciating. Scenario 1: PCR is decalred a fraud and the casedemic is fully revealed. The BBC News are up in arms. “How could they do this?” Always aware that there had been cases building and cases won and they never once chose to shine a light on it.

Last night the local ‘investigative’ journalism programme Spotlight, went into the local T and T system. They had zero depth. It was all based on the assumption that lockdowns are needed unless we throw more money at T and T to bring ‘cases’ down.

Half an hour of my life, wasted.

It concluded its investigation with a couple min rant from Prof Scally who warned us all, again, that this was the plague and lockdowns were necessary. The harder the better.

In case you don’t remember Scally here he is.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/epidemiologist-on-cost-of-second-lockdown-coronavirus/

This is another nail in the coffin of the BBC. They together with their colleagues in the MSM have pushed for the lockdown and growing restrictions with their hysterical coverage, fake stats, fake footage and fake data.

So when Sunak announces pay freezes in the public sector as well as cuts and possible tax raids, what did they expect?

There’s no such thing as a free lunch but the morons in the Beeb would never understand that as they’ve been swimming in freebies for years, even decades now.

The virus is now gone but the social, economic, psychological costs will be with us for years, decades and with the psychological perhaps they will be with us for life.

The BBC are pro lockdown but they hate the Tories. Any move by the government to get back to normal will be slaughtered by the BBC, but equally any economic distress will be the government’s fault for not locking down sooner, not doing T&T better, not investing more in the NHS in previous years, not printing more money, not taxing the rich enough etc etc.

Well we could grasp that and see the inevitable results coming from a mile off. How come the big brains in Downing St thought they could somehow ride the tiger without getting eaten in the end?

Good question. Hubris? Maybe they were going to mount some token attacks on the BBC but now realise they need them.

One word. Superforecasters. The most unintentionally ironic word since Schutzstaffel (“protection squadron”).

The SS were called a “protection squadron” because they were originally set up as Hitler’s personal bodyguard.

It’seems not just the BBC is it though? I TV C4 and C5 are just as bad not to mention the MSN with the exception of the DM. The massive scale of the propaganda and manufactured hysteria would have made Stalin proud.

The DM were just as bad as the others back from Feb to May. Their more recent shift to lockdown scepticism seems to me to be just another part of the plan.

Worth remembering that there was only Hitchens in the msm speaking honestly back in the spring.

Hitch must get fed up of being the lone voice in the wilderness. On WMD in Iraq, the rush to war in Libya and Syria, now this.

“ The DM were just as bad as the others back from Feb to May. Their more recent shift to lockdown scepticism seems to me to be just another part of the plan .”

That is simply incorrect. I well recall the DM as being just about the only place publishing at least the occasional bit of scepticism, albeit amidst plenty of the establishment stuff, back even in April. They really were different and categorically better than the rest of the “msm”, barring the Telegraph and Spectator.

Here, for instance, they are publishing Carl Heneghan – at that time seriously subversive stuff – on 20th April, and what’s more under a headline calling him “leading expert”. This doesn’t seem remarkable now, but it really was back in April!

UK announces 449 more coronavirus deaths – the fewest for a fortnight as leading expert argues Britain’s crisis peaked BEFORE lockdown and claims fatality rate could be as low as 0.1%

• NHS England said a further 429 people have died in its hospitals – just 85 of those died yesterday, April 19
• Oxford University Professor Carl Heneghan said the UK’s outbreak peaked back in March
• He said data showed this but ministers had ‘lost sight’ of the scientific evidence and panicked about lockdown
• Professor Heneghan hailed Sweden for ‘holding its nerve’ – the country has stayed open for business as usual
• Sweden’s infection and death rates are so far lower than UK’s and its economy is stable
• Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19

By CONNOR BOYD HEALTH REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE and SAM BLANCHARD SENIOR HEALTH REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE  and STEPHEN MATTHEWS HEALTH EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 12:22, 20 April 2020 | UPDATED: 18:16, 20 April 2020

Fair enough. I guess that was the earliest one you could find though ?

Didn’t look very hard – that one’s saved in my “covid references” folder.

They have all bought into the narrative though are probably not all as anti-Tory as the BBC (probably with the exception of C4, which is state media).

I hope that some economists are right and that with the right policies we can grow our way out of much of the debt. The problem being the small likelihood of having a government that would implement the right policies rather than unimaginative tax hikes and damaging green restrictions.
Of course, we can’t grow our way out of the damage to people’s health and some small businesses will never recover.

The alternative build back better. We can do better than them.

I never, ever, ever, listen or watch the BBC. Consequently I don’t get as mad and depressed as people who do……….

Not a blanket ban here but no BBC news, current arrairs, chat show or any other broadcast which promotes/validates coronamania is allowed air-time

So many are switching off the news because it’s non-stop Covid propaganda. Sue Cook, ex BBC presenter, said she can’t bear the BBC anymore

I only put it on for the weather (which is just another “forecast” anyway). If I’m feeling really brave I’ll scan through the Red Button news (Ceefax to oldies like me!). At least this gives me the opportunity to ignore anything clearly fake…

You still have a tv licence?
You can get the weather online free – and more quickly, any time to suit.

you mention the weather-Piers Corbyn claims he was banned from bidding to take over the Weather forecast from the Met office

“Hospitals Still Not Protecting Patients From Covid.”
It is surely unbelievable that health authorities have still not learned the lessons of the past when infectious diseases were defeated by Isolating them with Isolation Hospitals.
As was said here months ago the Nightingales should have been built with this in mind but that would have required them to be single story to avoid lifts and staircases.

No doubt the Isolation Protocols taught to my SRN* mum in the 1940s exist only in dusty paper files not accessible to spreadsheets and algorithms.

*State Registered Nurse.

RE your Mum being an SRN in the 40’s – this was before antibiotics. There was a qualification called ‘fever nurse’ who worked in the isolation hospitals. Up until the90’s the ward sister was in charge of everything on her ward/unit including oversight of the cleaners who took their jobs very seriously.

I worked in operating theatres and at the time if there was a case of post op infection there was a major inquiry as to what had gone wrong. These days there are very few stand alone specialist hospitals. The big district general hospitals have many different specialities within them, cleaners are now not under Sisters/Matrons control and can be deployed anywhere. Same goes for agency nurses, porters etc.

Around the time of the increase in hospital acquired infections was the stopping of using phenol for cleaning floors etc, due to it’s carcinogenic effects in children. Fair enough but it should have been continued to use in the common entrance areas.

I could rant on for ever about the shambolic state of hospital uncleanliness but I think that when two of my patients (I worked in general practice) picked up scabies whilst in patients says it all really.

There are times when I am ashamed to say I was a nurse.

Sorry for ranting. Feel the same about all the covid crap.

Yes, being a nurse and ward sister from the 80s to the 90s I can identify with your comments. Cleaners were part of the team, a vested interest in the whole patient outcome and valued as such. Once ousted and contract cleaners used, obviously there was no longer any vested interest in doing a good job, just come in, do the minimum and out. As a ward sister, nothing got past me, and as you mentioned any post op wound infections were thoroughly investigated, though they were rare, now it seems to be the norm. Equally with pressure sores – they were rightfully seen as negligence and a result of poor nursing care, and therefore not seen on properly run wards.

I witnessed the privatisation of the cleaning services in the late 90s when working at a hospital in Bath: all the NHS cleaners left, not wishing to find themselves working for Securicor.

Agency cleaners replaced the professionals with the dire results which you describe.

I also attempted to persuade ward staff to open windows, to allow for crucial ventilation, without success.

My late Mum was a VAD in WW2, and told me of the hours spent cleaning and disinfecting every area.

Finally, the old style nightingale wards had large windows ,which could be opened at the top by means of window poles. This was done regularly many years ago when I was in my early 20s and working as an auxiliary in a Manchester teaching hospital.

The cleaners would chat to the patients too, which meant social contact for the patients and extra eyes to monitor their wellbeing.

One of the really noticable things when you go into a hospital now is how they no longer smell clean and how stuffy they are. Our local doctors’ surgery has carpet tiles on the floor which is hardly conducive to good hygiene. The room that you have to go in for blood tests is more akin to someone’s living room rather than a setting for medical procedures – it’s packed to the rafters with the nurse’s personal knick-knacks. I find this incredibly unprofessional.

I used to spend lots of time in the local infirmary as a child (being stitched up or mended in some way) and I remember vividly how strongly it smelled of disinfectant. Fast forward 40 odd years and the hospital my mum died in, for all the anti-bac palaver and ban on ‘dangerous’ flowers, it did not look or feel at all clean.

My poor dad died in 2011 (on the ghastly Liverpool path, for which we will never, never, never forgive the NHS) in a side alcove to a surgical ward in Addenbrooke’s. There was a bottle of hand sanitiser mounted by the door, but it was empty. Despite our repeated requests for it to be refilled, it never was.

So sorry to read this Annie. My mum was in Broomfields. I will never, ever forgive the way they treated her in her final hours.

The Liverpool pathway – how dreadful. And in Addies, one of our “world beating” teaching hospitals. It makes me so angry. I’m very sorry he and your family went through that.

Oh yes, they can beat the world in ‘teaching’ and ‘research’. But they are world crap at mopping the floor.

Our hospital is far from stuffy, it’s like a blooming wind tunnel with all the windows open, everybody freezing, uncomfortable, and we know immunity is lowered if you’re cold..!
Can I ask if you raised the concern about the nurses “knick knacks”, whatever they were, with the nurse or the surgery, and what the response was?

I wasn’t suggesting that all the windows be open, I was just opining that it being stuffy wasn’t healthy.

No, I didn’t raise the issue of her personal effects (I had been just been mis-diagnosed with a serious heart condition so wasn’t in the mood for taking them on). The room in question was festooned with posters about god and religion and her desk was similarly cluttered with junk. I do not think it was appropriate for a clinical setting to be an extension of her personal life.

I’ve just made an almost identical post. We can’t both have been imagining it.

Me too.

With my mum’s stay in hospital, I certainly wasn’t imagining it. Those nightmare days will haunt me forever. Awful, awful place. If I had known how seriously ill she was (they didn’t bother to tell me), I would have brought her home and she could have had some peace. The only people who treated her with dignity were the hospital porters and one junior doctor.

1996: My Mum was moved to a sideroom because she was being barrier-nursed after chemo.
There was a huge dustball under the bed!

We were supposed to don a plastic apron before entering. The aprons were dumped on a chair outside her room, which would often disappear at visiting time.

Good rant.
My mums first rule of nursing was

‘Make sure the drains are clean and if they are not clean them yourself’

When I told her in the 1990s that hospitals were disposing of their direct labour maintenance crews in favour of contractors she predicted hospital disease immediately.

And as for ‘clean them yourself’… nurses are graduates, they won’t stoop to lowly things like mopping floors. I remember my dad being in a ward whose floor was so dirty that your feet stuck to it as you tried to walk. And he was diabetic, and they let him walk about in open-toed sandals, then discharged him with a virulent infection that turned his feet and calves swollen and black.

Rants are entirely justified in the circumstances, Judy.
I recall a short stay in hospital in the 70s when everything had a reassuring and distinctive clean smell. The hospital in which my mother had several stays at the end of her life 2019 – 2020 smelt mostly of various bodily fluids. It cannot possibly have been clean.

Sad to say it probably wasn’t.

‘Protecting from Covid’ = denying freedom to live

‘Staying safe’ – not living

‘Be kind’ – be an absolute arse who preaches, projects, spews bile and wants to censure, hating all those you disagree with.

Stopping the spread : cessation of respiration-death. It would save the Covidists a lot of bother wouldn’t it?

Is it desirable or even possible that we “defeat” covid in the same way that the original isolation hospitals defeated things like cholera, typhoid, smallpox, measles and Scarlett fever?
I know it’s a novel virus hence why it’s a pandemic, but if it was possible to run hospitals in this way then wouldn’t we have separate wards for flu and non-flu patients?
I believe that hospitals are doing all the they can to prevent the nosocomial spread, it’s just that they recognise that there’s limits to that in order to keep the hospital going for other patients too!
Nightingale hospitals are a different matter though…it seems they were originally intended to be ventilator death factories. A real shame that they have never been put to an alternative use.

Quite so, we won’t and don’t need to Defeat covid but hospitals should still be able to prevent cross infection as they learned to do in the past.
My mum went in for a hip replacement in her late 70s coming out 2 months later having been given Hospital Disease as a direct result of NHS practices.

…it seems they were originally intended to be ventilator death factories.

Or were they originally intended to be just a massive PR operation ?

There is unlimited funding for props – but that doesn’t mean the mind capture is intended for entertainment.
Its all a PR operation of deceit under whatever fronts and is more deeply laid than people think.

This doesn’t surprise me. A few years’ ago, I was buying some make up at a department store for an upcoming job interview. The make up artist who assisted me was a former nurse and we got chatting. When I asked her why she left, she replied that standards were slipping and the move to make nursing a degree subject, it wasn’t the same profession she trained for as she observed.

Hospitals still not protecting patients from the sasquatch either. Why oh why haven’t they learned the lessons of the past, damn them!

This is the problem, right here. This readership thinks “Covid” (no one ever uses the correct name, not many people know what they’re talking about) is infectious.

Covid-19 In A Nutshell

Thinking can be infectious.
The power of thought is recognised by those who leverage disproportionate wealth to control narratives by ‘post truth’ manipulations.

Awakened responsibility can recognise contradictory incongruence and weaponised provocation to emotionally reactive investment.
But once invested, the identity operates to protect its investment and does not readily withdraw such defence to honestly question its interpretation of reality.
More so when social pressures demonise and vilify critical awareness under moral crusade.

The protection of a core narrative for control over a century or more is a massive funding of invested identity and like the banks – deemed too big to fail question.

The anthropomorphising of microbiology is the projection of a psychopathy to ‘pathogen’ by which poisons, and toxic exposure – along with key deficiencies operate a progressive and sustained undermining of the body’s natural healing, regenerating and rebalancing.
The anti-biotic mindset is unaware of the communication and support that the microbiome is and does.

“It may shock you to know that all the world’s bacteria have access to a single gene pool, which has provided an immense resource for adaptation, manifesting an array of breathtaking combinations and re-combinations for three billion years! Any bacterium—at any time—has the ability to use accessory genes, provided by other strains, which permits it to function in ways its own DNA may not cover. The global trading of genes through DNA re-combinations provides for almost endless adaptation possibilities. Therefore, what has been done to one has been done to all.
Widespread use of antibacterial agents is both futile and disastrous. Future life sciences and medicine will comprehend the more effective use of agents to stimulate positive adaptation of bacteria resulting in chains of supportive symbiosis. In the presence of love, these positive adaptations naturally occur. In the presence of hatred and fear, negative and resistant strains of bacteria are more likely.
Life forms are ever changing, and yet the basic chemistry of life remains the same. Do not cling to forms that are passing, but seek for an understanding of life that embraces and includes all possibilities. This is accomplished through integrating and expanding patterns and relationships. In this way, you will see God as the creative power of life. When I asked that you love one another, I was not just giving you a recipe for human fellowship. This is the doorway to life eternal.” (The Keys of Jeshua – Glenda Green)

Project 2000 (degrees and abolition of SENs and auxiliaries) did for nursing.
Outsourcing did the rest. (20 yrs nursing.)

Brief anecdote from ‘ The Progressive Collective of Saor Alba’:
a quick dash to local supermarket yesterday, later than my usual time.
Busy, but once again, mine was the only bare face to be seen.
The zombification of the locals is almost complete: they stare blankly at my open face, or shuffle past, eyes down.
This is so utterly depressing and dehumanising that I no longer bother to try and make eye contact, other than to greet and show my lanyard to the friendly security guards.
Even the pharmacists at our local chemist are less friendly than before and no longer smile, although they know me well.
Dystopia and anomie are now dominant.

Sounds as if the Turdgeon has almost achieved her aim: a Scotland without human beings.
Are the remoter areas – the Highlands, islands, etc. – just as bad?

I don’t know Annie; I suspect that the Shetlands and Orkneys are less enthused-as they want to secede from Sturgeon-land, but my area is confined to Tier 4,with no visible resistance.

It is unbelievably depressing.

My in-laws used to live not too far from the Campsie Hills. Do you ever get out there? It was lovely for walking, and Turdgeon can’t blight the countryside, surely?

I haven’t been there yet Annie, but the Sturgeon’s writ runs large here, so I guess many country areas are also under heavy manners.

However, Dumfries and Galloway has not voted for an SNP person to date, so there is some hope, and it is a largely rural area.

We had a lovely holiday in D andG once. It’s wild and wonderful.
Have you read The Thirty-Nine Steps ? It has a wonderful evocation of that area.

Another favourite of mine; I know we share a love of M R James’s wonderful stories as well.

I think we should share more book recommendations to help keep people’s spirits up.

Yes , but leave the light on when you read .. ‘Oh Whistle and I’ll come to You’ and the film by Jonathon Miller is terrifying..Algernon Blackwoods supernatural tales are good. But the master at great humorous writing is PG Woodhouse, great escapism.. needed!

I’ve got a treasured old book of Algernon Blackwood’s tales, and I love the Jonathan Miller film; a classic.

For helpless laughter, I recommend Don Martin’s cartoons for Mad magazine.

The most horrific M R James story has to be ‘Count Magnus’ – definitely not one to be read alone on a dark and stormy night.
For a magnificent evocation of the Suffolk coast, try ‘A warning to the curious’. And for the Dorset (?) countryside, ‘A view from a hill’. The ghosts are just a bonus!

Good Morning, Wendy. I had my usual check out of Shetland webcams a couple of weeks ago and was bitterly disappointed to see a couple of people scuttling across the Market Square wearing masks. This is the land of horizontal washing ie it is so windy! Masks being worn in those conditions? Really?! I was so sad at that because I thought, like you, they would have no truck with la Sturgeon’s diktats. Oh well….

O what a disappointment! I’d hoped that good sense would prevail there.

Turdgeon! You’ve made my day Annie, that’s what she will be known as to me from now on. Thanks

Somebody else yesterday invented it!

I spotted it in the comments in one of the newspapers. Can’t remember which but it’s a definitely a keeper.

The Turdgeon

Brilliant!

You gave me a new word (to me) to look up. I love it when that happens.

HRH Nicola Turdgeon.

Press conference in Spain with the participation of hundreds of professionals from around the world, “Truth Doctors”, who denounced that Covid-19 is a false pandemic created for political purposes. They urged doctors, the media and political authorities to stop the operation, spread the truth. Data, figures, analysis and reflections were presented that show the incoherent and harmfulness of the measures that are being applied worldwide around Covid-19. https://youtu.be/McQ7v9kKLxk &nbsp ;

“This is a world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse,” was stressed at the end of the meeting. Doctors agreed that: 1. Coronavirus victims did not outnumber last year’s seasonal flu deaths. 2. Figures were exaggerated by altering medical protocols. 3. The confinement of the healthy and the forced use of masks have no scientific basis. 4. The disease known as Covid-19 does not have a single infectious pattern, but a combination of them. That the politicians stop the nonsense of the crown and spread the truth instead of false propaganda and that the doctors and the media tell the truth despite the orders of their superiors.

Basically the financial sector hit max and has blown, happened September 2019.

Covid19 was/is being used to cover this up. Corporations of the world and their owners have decided that consumerism has served its purpose, and that now the technology is in place to install an Orwellian structured world society. We are f…….d if we accept this.

Particularly it was in the repurchase agreement or Repo market. Much of the trillions in printed money that had to be repaid by the citizens was invested in this. If the Covid crisis never happened the world will face an economic collapse regardless. But unlike the Subprime Mortgage crisis, no common citizens can be blamed for taking loans and credit they couldn’t handle. This bubble is entirely fueled by those in the highest levels of government, finance,and banking.

None of what is happening around us has anything at all to do with a virus- that is the cover. Anyone who thinks this is asleep at the wheel.

Who’s Behind the Oxford Vaccine for COVID-19?
https://architectsforsocialhousing.co.uk/2020/11/25/bread-and-circuses-whos-behind-the-oxford-vaccine-for-covid-19/

We are f…….d if we accept this.

And… you really think these people set all this plan in motion if it all hinged on us accepting it or not? Nah, my friend. I think we’re way past that. Saying ‘no’ is not enough to stop this.

Doing no is what’s needed.

It starts with no

.. and continues with doing.

I still don’t know anyone who’s had the virus. I wonder if I’m dreaming all of this

Me neither

my Sister had a loss of sense of taste and smell, felt a bit grotty. Took a PCR test, got a positive. She’s in her 50’s and suffers with asthma (mask exempt). But said, either this virus isn’t as bad as people make out, or I don’t have it!

SIL (64) works in a care home and has a test each week. Got a positive a few months back. Isolated few a few weeks. Now back working. Mild symptoms. Still can’t smell or taste, but recovering slowly.

I think that the above examples are true for 99% of the “cases” in the country.

Covid-19 was a test. They will ratchet it up next time around. We need to create a global movement to close down all Bio Labs. These people cannot be trusted.

It’s real but the overreaction is criminal. I have 2 relatives who caught it in a clinical setting and it was a very nasty flu like illness which took quite a while to recover from.
Interestingly neither of them infected the people they lived closely with. Would that be what we normal people call immunity?

I do …my nan who is 93, she recovered in 2 days in and 3 days later she was back in the shops. So deadly!

A couple of close friends postive tested this monday. She asked for the test (!) because she lost her sense of taste and smell. He’s had pretty much no symptoms at all. Despite government blaming hospitality, they didnt catch it in a pub as the pubs are shut, and were definitely negative 9 days before, when they were both tested as he needed an operation on an injured knee. Since he’s laid up with a pot on and she’s working from home, where do we think they acquired it?

Anyone?

He got it in hospital, for a cert.

I would recommend The Delingpod, podcast with guest Patrick M Wood. (episode 130)

If a few non believers listen to this they may wake up thinking they are having a nightmare.

The all important link, this is on Apple:

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/id1449753062?i=1000500028161

The works of A C Sutton mentioned by Wood are also to be highly recommended for those trying to understand the bigger picture.

https://bolenreport.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-radicals/
Rules for Radicals. Highly recommended by Mark Windows. He suggests using these rules to counter the globablist agenda.

I almost crashed the car listening to this on my way to see my mum last night. She said I looked a bit shell shocked and stressed. She wasn’t wrong.

This is long and absolutely brilliant and puts into historical perspective the whole reset. Our PM almost certainly has been knobbled.

I’ve been into Glasgow’s city centre probably 3 times in total since March. Before then I’d visit the west part of Sauchiehall Street, and the Pitt Street area, at least once a week as I’d drive to an erstwhile client’s premises.

This part of Sauchiehall Street, perhaps the busiest street in Glasgow (Glaswegians use the phrase “it’s like Sauchiehall Street in here!” to refer to something being busy), has a stretch of restaurants, clubs and bars that on a weekend are absolutely rammed. Visit this part of the street on a Saturday night and you’ll struggle to walk along the pavement, such is the strength of its nighttime economy.

During the day office workers would play avoid the student as they milled back and forth between their office blocks and the cafes and coffee shops.

I counted maybe 3 people walking the pavements. Almost every other business premises is boarded up or shuttered. Graffiti covering the laminate boards.

One part on the north side of the street has a 300 yard stretch which houses the Garage night club, Campus Bar and the O2 ABC, the latter being an art deco cinema repurposed as an iconic concert venue.

Now this stretch looks like 1970s Harlem.

The windows and entrance of the Campus Bar and the O2 ABC are completely boarded up. And, of course, the boardings are covered in graffiti.

As I drove along this part of Sauchiehall Street the other day, I slowed to a crawl as I took in the scene. I’ve called Glasgow my home for over 40 years. I remember this part of the city in the 1970s and the 80s, through times of economic deprivation. But it never looked like it does now.

However, one sight that jumped out at me was the incongruent NHS sticker, large and blue, displayed in the vestibule to what was once the entrance to the Garage night club.

Even when it has had to close its doors to paying customers for almost an entire year, with no end in sight, the owners have decided to display where their loyalties lie.

So Glasgow has been self-blitzing? No surprises there, considering that the whole of Scotland clearly has a death wish.
What you say reminds me of Daphne du Maurier’s description of a place during the Black Death which ‘suggest[ed] the abandonment of all hope, the aftertaste of atomic doom’. ( In The House of the Strand .)

Not just Scotland.

Glasgow city centre is being systematically destroyed and this process was begun before covid.

One thinks back to the many suspicious fires in Sauchiehall street over the last 5 years or so.

The world famous Rennie Mackintosh designed Art school has been torched twice for goodness sake.

I don’t suppose sturgeon has any great liking for central Glasgow nightlife.

Or life in general!

As a resident of Scotland for the past 2.5 years I’ve had many a good night in Glasgow and seen some great bands at the garage, king Tut’s, barrowlands and st Luke’s.

So why the “Thank you St Nicola for keeping us safe”? Is it the hated English money keeping things going?

Because she has that folksy way at the lectern. It’s the only explanation. It seems only George Galloway is prepared to take her on from what we used to call “the left”

Galloway is a fully indoctrinated covid cultist. Such a shame, the guy has zero credibility any more. Just another fool.

2020 has not been a particularly bad year for deaths, even including COVID .

When you adjust for an increasing and ageing population, 2020 has the third highest death rate of the last 8 years, doesn’t even make the top quartile, including all the actual COVID and supposed COVID deaths.

Year Deaths to week 46 Population over 70 Adjusted deaths ‘Excess’ deaths
2013 447,560 6,387,380 540,435 -10,507
2014 437,965 6,562,247 514,756 15,172
2015 471,878 6,694,487 543,664 -13,736
2016 462,180 6,850,786 520,338 9,590
2017 468,964 7,139,865 506,599 23,329
2018 480,256 7,356,660 503,319 26,409
2019 463,931 7,556,978 473,500 56,428
2020 529,928 7,712,846 529,928 0

AVERAGE 470,334 7,032,650 516,962 13,336

The adjusted death rate is simply the deaths to week 46 adjusted for the population over 70 in 2020 compared to the year in question (around 80% of deaths are over 70). 2013 and 2015 had a higher death rate. All figures from the ONS and relate to England and Wales (deaths) and England (population).

This virus hoo-haa has shown up our societies blinkered unrealistic view of death. Currently 84% of Covid deaths are people aged over 70. It is not heartless or callous to regard the death of people over 70 differently than deaths under 70, it is realistic. At the moment we have frail eldely people dying in winter time of a respiratory disease……….. situation normal much as every year since records began. Yet we continue in panic and hysteria and there is, as noted in todays newsletter, no organised concerted opposition. All the politicians, even the so-called rebels, seem bewitched by the panic stricken, covid fearing public. And the answer to all this? unfortunately I have no idea?

Ah but every death is a “tragedy”! Says the 2nd biggest arms dealer in the world our beloved Gov, makes me sick.

Lives that don’t have votes don’t matter.

Billions wasted.

Thank you Laurence. Information copied for another day.

Christ!

If 529,928 7,712,846 529,928 people have died this year no wonder my posts don’t get many upvotes these days.

All this endless crap about tiers, open-ended pseudo-lockdowns, vaccines is secondary to the primary, and almost unbelievably grim problem.

The lie told at the beginning of this year can never be retracted. Genies and bottles. It plays into all the weaknesses of the human mind – in particular, the fear of death. And the result will be (is already) a pathological change in society. When society is founded on a madness, the outcome is certain. That society will destroy itself.

Agreed, all the tier nonsense is just to distract us with who can do what with whom and where and when they have to stop doing it

It’s also a very effective form of divide and rule. Complaining about tiers is like asking a thug to kick you in the goolies just a little bit less hard.

I quite agree with you. Why weren’t you this sensible when you were Archbishop of Canterbury? (Sorry, I’m taking refuge in flippancy.)

2020 has not been a particularly bad year for deaths, even including COVID .

hopefully numbers are a bit clearer now

2013 447,560 6,387,380 540,435 -10,507
2014 437,965 6,562,247 514,756 15,172
2015 471,878 6,694,487 543,664 -13,736
2016 462,180 6,850,786 520,338 9,590
2017 468,964 7,139,865 506,599 23,329
2018 480,256 7,356,660 503,319 26,409
2019 463,931 7,556,978 473,500 56,428
2020 529,928 7,712,846 529,928 0
AVERAGE 470,334 7,032,650 516,962 13,336

Dear Laurence, are these deaths to date ie until Nov or deaths in the year?

all are deaths to week 46 of the year shown

Charted it up for you laurence

That’s great thanks, for future reference, how do you attach a chart or table to a post ?

Local roundup.

1.Tesco Metro was closed for a few days for refurbishment. It now has no sanitizer station or footprints and arrows on the floor but has enhanced plastic screens around the manned and unmanned tills.
I said to the cashier that the place looks different every day. She replied

“Yes, we are trying to get back to normal now”.

2. Annual Flu Vaccine, after 6 text reminders and one unanswered phone call, yesterday I recieved my first ever letter from my GP Surgery, presumably doing the same. It remains unopened.

3. The teens at my local College remain devoid of facemasks on the street and continue to utterly ignore social distancing when crowding public spaces before, in between and after classes.
A single complaint about this finally arrived on Local Live online from a student who declares
‘ I don’t go out in the evening because I’ve been exposed enough just by going to College’

Johnny No Mates I expect. Happily The College mounted a robust defence of its current practices.

I received a text from my gp surgery in October asking me to make an appointment for a flu jab – I was given the option to respond with ‘Decline’ which I took. On Saturday I received a letter urging me to make an appointment for a flu jab. The rest of the letter was devoted to telling me how, if only I’d download an app, they wouldn’t have to waste money sending out letters. If only they paid attention to their text responses, they could have saved themselves even more, I thought. Also, did I realise how much it cost them if I didn’t keep my appointment? That would be the appointment I hadn’t made and wasn’t going to make, then. I’m wondering when the next lot of nhs nonsense will be plopping onto my doormat.

Interesting bit on UK column yesterday about these letters being issued. Was it signed by an actual person, if so might be worth googling their name to see what it throws up (quite literally).

I don’t believe it was a ‘proper’ signature but I didn’t pay that much attention, to be honest. It’s now been recycled.

The bit about each missed appointment costing the NHS £160.00 ! is on the front of the envelope. Their own records will show that I have never taken up their offer of a flu vaccine and have said No thanks verbally at least twice.

Each missed cancer diagnosis costs someone their life.

The nhs is inept and poorly organised, to put it mildly. What ticked me off most about the text and letter was their ability/willingness to contact me when it involved the flu jab for which they will be paid, but in the early part of house arrest 1 I tried to contact them re. repeat prescriptions (bp tablets) but was completely unable to. Funny that. Our local chemist was a star and was happy to fulfill the prescription anyway.

Ah yes. The old NHS missed appointment costs fallacy. My GP surgery has a notice up about weekly/monthly missed appointments and it riles me every time I see it.

From my experience it’s very much a one way street as far as the NHS is concerned. Turn up one minute late to an appointment at my GP surgery and you will find your appointment cancelled off the system despite the fact that you know they are/will be running “late”. This can be contrasted with having turned up on time and then actually being seen an hour later than your booked appointment time.

Somehow the NHS expect me to bear the cost of that for missed billable time to a client.

Some years ago Mrs Doubting was referred to an independently run (Virgin Health?) unit near to The QMC in Nottingham, her appointment was at a weird time something like 09:23, she turned up in plenty of time, 23 minutes past arrived a nurse took Mrs Doubting for the tests to be carried out and by 10:00 she was out of the building and on a tram back into the city centre.

Move to more recent times and Mrs Doubting had to go back to the same unit, now back being run under direct NHS control. Shambles waiting around more staff stood around in the unit for a couple of hours etc.

When a private company has its name on the door why can things be so different?

I have observed the same. Private appointments with physio and osteopath all run to time. I wonder whether it has something to do with the implicit contract that you have with them and the fact that money is exchanged for services immediately that sharpens the mind to the business at hand?

Private = accountable.

Not that I feel like defending the NHS these days, but I will say that my experience with private sector medicine in the US had the same pointless, long waits as you get here. The difference is after you’ve waited for an hour past your appointment time, you still have to pay the bill when you leave. At least here there’s no payment at the point of service.

I agree with most of the views on here but I guess like some others there are a few things said that I feel uncomfortable with. Deliberately removing covid posters for instance where although the intention is well meant it verges on petty theft. The other is the opposition to the annual flu jab. Unlike the new Covid jabs which have been largely untested and an uncertain effectiveness, the normal flu jab programme has been running for many years, has very few side effects, and at least some effectiveness. I have had that jab myself for quite some years and had no qualms at booking an appointment for it this year – even though having it in the surgery car park showed the stupidness of the NHS approach. Others clearly have different views but be that so. As for the Covid one I will probably decline when and if I am offered it and say I will reconsider in six months when a little more is known and maybe (or maybe not) the paranoia has abated a bit.

Please don’t down vote this post, all views are welcome on this excellent forum.

I think many objections are about the way flu vaccines are suddenly being pushed so hard. I had one this year and have for about 15 years since I was very poorly with flu complications. That’s my choice and others should be free to make theirs. I am I uneasy, to put it mildly, about the trend towards undermining choice and sovereignty over one’s own body and I think the flu campaign feeds into that for me.

My husband has the flu jab every year and I have had it in recent years and paid for my son to have it also.
However, why do we need the flu jab this year? My husband is virtually a prisoner in his work from home office. Son and I go out occasionally but all socialising is verboten.
All jabs carry a risk, even the well tested ones. The flu vaccine has to change every year and some years the side effects are worse than others and some years it completely misses the mark and is ineffective. So it’s a health cost benefit analysis that we should all be able to make for ourselves. I’m certainly not taking it so the pushy GP can get a tick in a box and a payment for it.

“…so the pushy GP can get a tick in a box and a payment for it.”

Exactly so. And that’s all they care about. They can go fuck themselves. I am not going to suffer the side-effects and illness (even if it’s temporary) just to put more money in their till, and to increase the drug company’s profits which the UK pays for. The laughably-named “flu jab” is not free.

Taking the annual flu jab is a personal choice, as should be the Covid vaccine.
I don’t take it because despite being supposedly vulnerable I have never had flu and I put that down to the large number of people I am in contact with due to my occupation.
When I retire I might change my mind especially now the government have destroyed any chances of social interaction.

Dave, I agree with you re. differing views. Personally, I’ve had my flu jab for the last few years but decided against it this year because I had a nasty autoimmune reaction after a jab. I felt a little reluctant about the jab once I found out surgeries are paid for everyone who takes it. Don’t ask me why, it just didn’t sit well with me. But I agree with karenovirus that it should be personal choice.
As to the C19 jab, well, if the government hadn’t indemnified drug companies against any possible legal action resulting from side effects, I might have considered having it. I think they shot themselves in the foot with that decision as it will put a lot of people off.

I thought Flu had disappeared this year? It’s all ‘ The Covid’ innit?

Petty theft my arse. Was the ww2 resistance in France blowing up bridges criminal damage ?

I feel much the same.

I used to get the flu jab regularly when I lived in the US. I also used to get sick far more often than I do now. I don’t remember when I stopped getting the jab – probably when I came to live in the UK permanently around 1999, but I still just do not get sick. Every so often I feel a bit off, have a cup of lemon ginger tea. I take a nap if that doesn’t help. When I wake up, I feel fine. So based on more than a decade’s experience, I don’t need the flu jab and I wish they’d stop asking me to have it. But I also have taken Vitamin D every winter for donkeys years which may or may not have something to do with it.

Deliberately removing covid posters for instance where although the intention is well meant it verges on petty theft.

What about the deliberate theft of our democratic rights and freedoms?

I’m nit voting you down, but I am disagreeing. Ugly, fear-mongering Covid notices pollute my town and countryside and I shall go on removing them whenever and wherever I can.
Other people often remove my anti-Covidian stickers. Should I accuse them of petty theft?

Its not petty theft it is removing the outward expression of a tyrannical society. Who gives a shit about theft in that context? I remove everything I possibly can and dump it in the bin where everyone can see it. Mind you I would prefer to ram it up Johnson’s backside sharp end first.

I got three of those flu jab letters, the latest one yesterday. It went straight into the compost bin, so no way to see the signature now. I changed my mobile number on my GPs website, so if they’ve texted me again, it went into the bit bucket. I have to admit that I want nothing whatsoever to do with the NHS ever again.

My initial reaction to Carl Heneghan talking about hospital transmission of Covid is to be sceptical. What is the evidence for these ‘cases’? Are they based on the same PCR test that he rubbishes elsewhere? And the resulting ‘Covid deaths’? Are they as reliable as the PHE’s ‘Covid deaths’ he exposed earlier this year?

For me, the stats are rotten, through and through, whether they make the government look good or bad. Where the stats show a hospital acquired ‘Covid’ ‘case’, I see a most-likely asymptomless positive PCR test result, and for every ‘Covid death’ in hospital I see an elderly person with co-morbidities who was probably going to die of something anyway. If it looks like they had a respiratory infection, it was probably some sort of influenza.

Heneghan shouldn’t ‘play their game’.

Ditto and I was just going to post a similar message.

What really is going on in the NHS? I and the vast majority of people on this site are pretty confident the PCR test is virtually useless so what are these people dying of, MRSA infection, neglect, pneumonia, are the hospitals filthy cluttered up with empty pizza boxes, bad hygiene, no ventilation?

It’s true that people can’t die of old age anymore, but why? What is the real agenda (apart from reset, agenda 30 etc etc).

I’m glad you said this better than I! I’m a bit surprised at CH’s comments. It’s hard to be skeptical until you question everything from the start. The testing, the cases, the asymptomatic transmission, the masks, the deaths. Once you get sucked into accepting all that it’s hard to win the debate.

This is what is happening in Leicester according to the local paper:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/health-boss-says-leicesters-hospitals-4736939
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/leicesters-hospitals-hit-highest-number-4714908.amp
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/more-40-covid-deaths-added-4735766

What really, really gets me is that the hospital doesn’t seem to be reporting these cases through the notifiable disease process, which is where they should be reported.

I have just submitted the following FOI request:
Please could you provide the following information:
Since 1st January 2020 until 26th November 2020 how many notifications under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 and the Health Protection (Notification) Regulations 2010 have been submitted by UHL medical staff?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-pennsylvania-legislature-giuliani-hold-public-hearing-2020-election .

Unlikely the MSM will be covering this ! In one clip the court actually bursts out laughing at the ridiculousness of the vote rigging for Biden. There is a separate good point made – after this hearing Biden now has to prove the cheating didn’t take place – the burden of proof has shifted. There is still a long way to go but Trump can still win this

I am tempted to agree with ‘WhatsHerFace’ (as linked to in yesterday’s LS news) where, in the moments when she finds herself going full ‘conspiracy’, she suspects that the aim is for Trump to win in order to provoke the nice, gentle, progressive leftists into burning down America. All the easier to then justify and implement a ‘reset’…

Chatting to the cashier in M&S yesterday, she was clearly fed up of the lockdown. Aha, I thought, chance for a conversion to scepticism.

Sadly no, her elderly parents live in the North East and she wasn’t planning to visit them this Christmas in case it put them at risk. She would wait until next year once the vaccine had been brought in.

i hadn’t the heart to tell her that at 85, her father might not be here next year as, who knows, might not any of us. Better strike while the iron’s hot.

Yes, have all the elderly people, and their relatives, who have resolved to spend a miserable solitary Christmas paused to consider that it might be an idea to live a little while they still can?

They must be thinking like Cottard in La Peste , who was convinced that you could only suffer from one affliction at a time. I.e. if you are at risk from Covid, you are safe from death from anything else.

It reminds me of a cartoon I saw once, 2 miserable bored old men sitting in a care home, one says to the other ‘ good job we gave up the booze, the cigarettes, the fast cars and the wild times or we would have missed all this’!

Two men sitting at a bar, one says to the other, The problem with living a longer life is that all the extra years come at the end.

Not living longer, just dying longer

I was planning to drive down to my very elderly parents’ town, stay in an hotel, and take them out for lunch in a restaurant. They are too old to cope with visitors or cooking large meals and I find their bathroom habits (door never closed, and the neurotic cleaner hasn’t been since March) and the constant television hard to cope with. This solution works all round and, in normal years, enables me to spend time with friends without being debriefed like a teenager on which unsuitable boys were there!
This year, staying somewhere else and having lunch in a restaurant would have been infinitely more hygienic and pleasant than squeezing into their rather foetid, overheated house. But, it will not be ‘allowed’. Add to that the carnage on the roads, filled with unserviced cars and people who haven’t driven any distance for months and have knackered their eyes staring at screens for most of that time, and I shall be staying at home with the cat!!

I think some older people still struggle to accept their own mortality. I say that as someone in their 60s. But I’ve had to deal with death on several occasions, having had cancer as well as an attempt on my life years ago. It can be hard to look at death head on, so I can’t blame people if they tell themselves they’ll do something next year instead. While I enjoy plans and ideas for the future, I’m very aware that I could be dead tomorrow.

So could any of us, from the day-old baby to the centenarian.
To stop living because one day you will most certainly die is the grossest folly one can possibly commit.

Stoic philosophy and Nio Zen made me face the prospect of death often, meditate upon it, think of every aspect of it. It would be common today to think this unhealthy or morbid, but it is honestly realistic. Besides, not only does facing it head on relieve the anxiety of death, it makes you more appreciative of not yet being dead. It is actually a very healthy practice, grounded in reason.

“Death can not be evil, or Socrates would have thought it so” – Lucius Annaeus Seneca.

“To fear death, gentlemen, is no other than to think oneself wise when one is not, to think one knows what one does not know. No one knows whether death may not be the greatest of all blessings for a man, yet men fear it as if they knew that it is the greatest of evils.” – Socrates (Apology, Plato)

These three chaps were stuck in Italy for 61 days and could not get a negative PCR test. They kept testing positive for all 61 days. Only a change in Italian law allowed them to come home. Clear evidence PCR tests and cases are false. If they were in the UK and being tested weekly, they would have enabled reporting of 24 new so called cases or infections over the same time period, according to current methodology. I think I got that right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8846875/Three-British-friends-stuck-quarantine-Italy-61-DAYS-finally-leave.html

Sue Cook’s pinned tweet hits the nail on the head. If the PCR test had never been invented we’d be living our normal lives by now

https://twitter.com/SueC00K/status/1317384055474761728?s=20

Sadly PCR is a wonderful scientific invention high jacked to be used in a manner it never was intended. I think PCR will always be unfairly tainted once this is over.

As Dr Mike Yeadon has repeatedly said: If we stopped testing, masks and social distancing with immediate effect we could all be back to normal immediately with no adverse effects. (I would add to that the need for mainstream media to cease with their disingenuous scaremongering.)

Yes this was disgusting. But I thought they were girls so maybe there was more than one incident of this? Pre-covid this would’ve been a gross violation of some kind of international law and the foreign secretary would’ve been straight to the embassy to demand the release of the political hostages. Now it’s like oh well nevermind.

There were 3 girls stuck in Sicily who kept getting positive tests in the summer I think.

One of the lads in the article said: ‘ I don’t even have the words to explain how it feels just to know that we can go home, do normal things, see our family, see our friends and have a normal life again rather than being stuck here.’ Normal, normal, normal. Sure he’s been in Italy and not planet Zog? Little do they

Just never ending. I haven’t listened to conspiracy theories about phone masts and 5g or any other stuff up until now. I just put our response down to a wet, useless, weak, social media led bunch of halfwit MPs.
But….. what is going on?
When professors and highly qualified people’s views are quashed, YouTube and Facebook are taking down any posts that dispute the need for these crazy actions, there has to be more to this than just gross stupidity in government?
I am in Cornwall, been on this site since day one pretty much. We haven’t had a wave yet! I do not believe we are alone, I do believe many other parts of the country have cases on a par with flu or just a winter virus. Why are we ruining the country?
I am lucky and still working but my firm has made people redundant. They would all be still working if it wasn’t for this farce.
How are employers supposed to run a business with every government message saying to work from home? How do you effectively run sales teams when you never see them!!!??? It’s just a joke.
Now before we even get to the new tier lockdown we are already seeing stories of tiers until the middle of next year!
It’s madness. People tested when perfectly healthy and then put as cases, people over 80 dying but it’s covid not anything underlying. My father is poorly with heart issues and cancer, 82, if he dies he is likely to be yet another covid stat but it is the underlying issues that are the cause.
The great reset? Well, never looked at it until now, but something is happening even the buffoon and his hapless cronies cannot be this useless.

You said it perfectly. I’m thinking the same. I’m sorry about your father

If politicians care about our country and freedom then they must start working to free us from the tyranny of lockdowns so that we can return to the old normal

Absolutely! What you describe as the ‘old normal’ is the way humans are supposed to be. We are supposed to be with each other.
We have never endured ‘virtual’ contact for so long.

Well said. We’re in the process of doing compulsory redundancies too and hardly anyone bar me and a few other people are awake to the fact that there will be no reudndancies voluntary or compulsory if it wasn’t for lockdown and restrictions. What part of that do people not understand?

Very sorry to hear about your dad.

This edition of newsletter has made me finally start to see a bigger picture of this supposed Great Reset. China are orchestrating the entire thing. I’m not saying they made it in a lab (although I think they may have had it in from bats and then leaked it), but they’re definitely pulling strings and not just trolling us.

One thing that has not been explained is the very dubious videos from China of people just dropping dead in the streets. Unless China had a very different version of the virus, people with Covid don’t go from being well enough to be out and about one moment, to dropping dead the next. Who faked those videos and why?

They got it from Dr. Fauci.

Likewise I went on a journey from being worried about a medieval pestilence to being concerned about government over caution then wondering why lockdown was going on forever, bankrupting companies, individuals and nearly the State itself.

Some sort of politicing was clearly the only answer.

Sorry about your father. I hope you will be able to see him and not be impeded by all this.
I am also lucky. I am working, started a new job three weeks ago. I am underperforming and a bit depressed. I dont seem to have adjusted well to working in isolation, having not physically met any colleagues. Others seem to be managing it fine.
I have managed to get permission to work from the office, but it is empty.
It was a huge blow to see the tiers announced, and to think we will have to endure this even longer.

Maybe its time to start taking the so called conspiracy theorists seriously (a term created by the elites to ridicule anyone with an alternate view), there’s no smoke without fire, global freedom is teetering on the edge of a very high cliff.

Best wishes to your Dad.

As to what’s really going on. I remember posting stuff here months ago about there being a bigger picture we all need to look at. No matter that I got dismissed, that was then and this is now. It’s great that increasing numbers of people are realising it’s not incompetence and self-interest driving this thing. Not so great is the anger and frustration when it comes to determining the actions we can take to stop what is now a massive crime against humanity.
Saw a post earlier about the various groups and individuals all battling to end the farce and, therefore, all the wrongs and evils emanating from it. The post highlighted the lack of a singular focus and identity. This lack rendering the respective efforts powerless and ineffective against the government/globalist narrative.
Made me think that what we the opposition have now is all of the components of the fantastic human body. We have all the organs, the nervous system and all the other systems. We have the bones. We are, however, lacking the vital structure that holds, connects and supports everything. We don’t have a spine giving shape, structure and strength to the body as a whole.
Unity and collaboration have been advocated before by better people than me. Humbly I only wish to add my voice to that plea. We have to form a force they cannot ignore.

Stop the steal of our lives and livelihoods.

we need an S.O.E. we need a churchill, and best wishes too to your dad

Lockdowns are worse than the ‘virus’

If lockdown isn’t going to end until summer 2021 then we know it’s not about a virus, but it’s about something else. I’m very scared

The destruction of the economy and every economy around the world is either a coincidence or deliberately planned. Is it the Great Reset? Who is the Great Reset for?

Do politicians think it’s OK to destroy millions of innocent people’s lives? To treat them like prisoners when they’ve committed no crime?

This is so wrong. The UK is not free

To me, it seems that if Boris Johnson had found himself in the position of being PM at the moment when a killer pandemic struck, given the choice to either struggle through or to impose economy-destroying measures, and he took the latter course, then he should be a near-broken man. All his political dreams have come to nothing; he has presided over the destruction of real people’s lives; he has had to cause people’s deaths; he has had to assume the role of authoritarian big-state politician he always despised. He, personally, has had to ruin the country. He should be leaping upon every bit of good news about the virus from respected scientists and praising it to the skies to give himself a reason to get the country back to normal.

But what do we find? He is cheerful as he maintains the lockdowns. He makes little quips and jokes and plays on words. He uses other people’s stupid slogans (‘Build back better’) knowing that this sets alarm bells ringing in people’s minds. He drops Green New Deal-style policies into his twitter feed. And he gets his goons to rubbish the Great Barrington Declaration even though everyone knows that Hancock is a scientifically-illiterate arse.

Everything is wrong about this picture.

Boris must comply or it’s no bank “loans” credits for UK PLC. He is also a narcissistic liar who will say and do anything to keep his black mailers at bay as he has more skeletons in his cupboard than a guy who runs a ghost train.

His cabinet are Fascists. Corrupt to the core. The Tories, the global fascist dictatorship has been built-up over the last 20 years is now in operation in the UK.

The age of global fascist totalitarianism is now.

Boris is just a tool. They will use him until he wears out and is useless then they will throw him into the pig iron bin to be melted down for scrap.

This is what happened to Belarus. Their president was told, in no uncertain terms, to “lock down or it’s no loans”. He didn’t need much, so he went to Putin and asked for the same amount, which he got.

He then turned round to The Cabal and told them to GFT, and then turned to his people and advised them (with all his vast medical knowledge and skills in biology and chemistry) “Drink more vodka!”

It worked better than the shit that came out of Whitty’s mouth.

Boris is just a brainless puppet. Find out who is pulling the strings and you might have an inkling of why this is happening.
BTW Don’t tell me it is Bill Gates, that is bigger bollox than coranavirus itself.

Soros and the WEF i.e. the 3% elite, aka the NWO.

0.03% more like. No way they make up 3% of the population.

The Technocrats.

Lockdowns are the killer.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13298627/doctors-miss-mums-killer-cancer-zoom-covid/

Sheeples want lockdowns.
Sheeples are the majority.
Politicians get elected if they please the majority.
That’s totalitarian democracy for you.

so true , exactly what i think. thank goodness for sanity here thank you annie all your greatcommnents ,

The tyranny of the majority. I won’t bore you with the details, but this has affected me all my adult life, so I understand completely.

I always wondered what the ‘tyranny of the majority’ meant…now I know!

Who is the Great Reset for? The elite, the 3%, the Davos crowd, the NWO. It is NOT for us pleb citizens.

Where the ff does your 3% come from, fj ?

It is for us, we are the ones who they want to reset. Vaccines are their Great Reset not so secret weapon.

Anyone who now believes this ends in summer 2021 after the non-stop lies and propaganda we’ve been subject to is naive in the extreme.

Nothing from Potato Head Sunak on cutting Public Sector waste, in his interview rounds today I predict.

Just unfortunate that such obvious good sense is not being spoken by opposition politicians, but is relegated to cardboard placards like the one waved for years in Oxford Street by Stanley Green, the “less lust from less protein” man. We need organization and direct action.

The Bank of England’s balance sheet has expanded from £425bn to £875bn since March. It has created money to the tune of £450bn. It has more than doubled its balance sheet.

What the hell is the point of going to work? Why bother to cut foreign aid? HS2? Why not HSs 3 to 27?

The economy is losing all meaning. Governments pressed the Cheat button in 2008 and now they’re addicted to it. Nothing is real any more.

Or they know that money will cease to have any meaning in a few months’ time…

We have added more debt than in the 2008 Financial Crisis. This was always about saving sovereign debt markets i.e. government debt. As has been discussed here before, the 2019 Repo crashes, followed by the 1 trillion injection over the New Year by the Fed had put a lot of institutions on notice.

The difference is that a lot of smaller business owners learned from the last crisis. A lot of bigger businesses didn’t. I suspect a financial crash would leave many smaller businesses intact or at least surviving for longer.

And that’s the last thing anyone in financial power wants.

Like the open letter from UK Medical Freedom Alliance to the MHRA in the links to today’s update. One quote I liked was from the spokesperson from Astra Zeneca

“This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in … four years the vaccine is showing side effects”

But they are quite happy for the public taking that vaccine to take that long term risk for little if any gain and presumably not to be warned of that risk because it’s anti-vax?

Probably too late now – Ferguson is spelled with a double ‘s’ near the start of the letter.
This will be picked on by people challenging it’s credibility

Perhaps Pantsdown predicted the spelling of his own name incorrectly and exaggerated the number of s’s by 100%.

Would it not need to be need to be Fergusssssssssssson based on his Swedish prediction?

My credibility – it was my spell checker that changed its to it’s!

Liverpool, it was all down to the mass testing?
Joe Ashton, Mayor of Liverpool on R4 this morning claiming the reduction in Liverpool was down to Tier 3 & mass testing.
Take a look at the chart….. I don’t think so!

I’ve never seen anyone who goes on about testing explain how it affects the spread of the virus

Presumably anyone testing positive then hides in their house thus prohibiting any spread.

You’re right it’s nonsense. At any point in the summer we had 10,000s of people kicking about with the virus, pubs open, beaches open, shops open. The things that kick it off are clearly seasonal factors not behavioural factors.
The Government can control behaviour but that doesn’t control the virus spread.

They really would go on TV and say “Cases came down after tier 3 was introduced, and came down further still when LD2 was brought in. The graph shows this, our plan is working.”
The saddest thing is that the plebs would swallow that whole.

Simple: it is how you fatten turkeys for Christmas – by weighing them.

Would it not have been equitable for Sunak to announce a 20% public sector pay cut for a period of 12 months?

After all, we’re all in this together right?

You would have thought but its all a lie. As many of us have pointed out, many of the public sector workers and those who live in posh parts of cities and the shires are living it up during lockdown.

Hence why they don’t want lockdown to end why they don’t like Sunak’s announcement, they don’t want the gravy train to end.

The problem is what constitutes a public sector worker?
Technically I am not as I am employed by a CIC, but we are working for the NHS and I pay into the NHS pension but I am not on agenda for change and my salary is set by my employer.
My daughter works for the civil service and so is a public sector worker.

Agree it is a problem.

However the MPs, senior civil servants and those in local government should start the ball rolling – give themselves a massive pay cut and for the MPs a ban on claiming expenses and foregoing their pensions when they leave.

I have challenged my MP on THREE different occasions to propose a pay cut of 20% similar to the pay cut they have imposed on the productive and useful private sector; on NO occasion has he responded to this point, The bloated, incompetent and inefficient public sector has of course, been completely unaffected.
Also, and this is something that public sector jobsworths choose to ignore, the pensions ( entirely stolen from the private sector) for such jobsworths continue to accumulate exactly as before but private pensions will suffer from a lack of contributions; something that is not visible now but will be in the future.

It’s funny how they can’t see the woods from the trees but I suspect that’s what we get from people who don’t have a clue about how money is made.

With regards to pensions, I’ve just voted in favour of my workplace to reduce their contributions to mine. My reasoning is that I would rather keep my job and have something if only a little to save up every month than lose my job. Pensions now are meaningless anyway and when I finally get to cash them I suspect they will be nothing but loose change.

Yup too true stephanos

The Guardian: Hancock’s former neighbour won Covid test kit work after WhatsApp message.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/26/matt-hancock-former-neighbour-won-covid-test-kit-contract-after-whatsapp-message

Not only does this story smell of crony – corruption , but the products themselves are suspect if what is written in the Guardian report is true:
-“New to the industry, Bourne has certainly displayed ingenuity. He initially did not have the “clean rooms” required for manufacturing medical products and so commissioned a series of inflatable rooms.
He also paid a manufacturer of bouncy castles and blimps to make him a specially commissioned inflatable structure to unpack and decontaminate incoming supplies, which his lawyers described as a room that was intended to be “comparatively contamination-free” but “not medical-grade sterile”.
They said their client’s decision to turn to the bouncy castle company showed “creative and lateral thinking in a time of crisis”.
It remains unclear precisely how, with no prior experience in the field, and without the pre-existing facilities in produce medical supplies, Bourne came to provide millions of test tubes via two distributors with pre-existing deals with the DHSC.”-

“Comparatively contamination free”? And these test kits provide the data on which Govt policy is made and economies and people’s livelihoods destroyed.

No way would I cheerlead for the Graun these days – but a scroll down the front page gives a distinct sense of being a lot closer to our position than previously. Lots of headlines about the economic impact of lockdown, cronyism, etc. I know it’s still very much a lockdownist angle but can’t help wondering if they have seen which way the wind is blowing and are now gently setting up to be able to say ‘well, of course we warned you about the devastation this was going to cause, no self respecting leftist could ever condone the lockdown, could they?’

So yesterday I had a training session & meeting afterwards online and what happened is another example of what we’re still up against:

1. Early afternoon session was about communicating with muzzles. The organisers did some exercises where we had to decipher what they were saying behind their muzzles. Whilst they made an effort by trying to simulate thick foreign accents and such, I thought it was a cop out as it doesn’t really match in our real life experience – we’ve been trained to communicate in a clear manner so even if they were muzzled I could still pick up at least 75% of what they’re saying however if it was a genuine visitor, it goes down to under 10%, less that 5% if it was someone with a thick regional or foreign accent. Then we had a Q&A and one of my colleagues whined about people constantly removing their muzzles or lowering them down. I pointed out that people do struggle to breathe in them and from the look on my other colleagues’ faces, I could tell that didn’t go down well until I was rescued by two of the managers who reiterated that we are not to approach them unless they clearly need assistance.
2. After the training session, we went straight to a meeting about compulsory redundancies (yes, they’re happening as I said they will even 6 months ago!) and I could sense that the mood was subdued and I sympathise. However, it makes me despair that hardly anyone acknowledges why we’re in this situation and how many of them are complicit in this .

I’ve reached the conclusion that many of them are so far gone now that not even the reality of compulsory redundancies hasn’t woken them up yet. I honestly don’t know what will.

you should have got a mask, taken out a lighter and burned it in front of them.

Good one. I don’t think they would have gotten that either.

Welcome back Biker, you’ve been missed.

Bloody Germans threatening to close ski resorts.

Where I am I can treat the Government’s rules as they have treated my letters, as a very minor inconvenience. Skiing is my treat in winter. I’m off before they fuck it up again.

Not much of a treat . Unless you can drive there you face being muzzled on plane (tricky to claim exemption on many airlines) , muzzled on the transfer to resort, muzzled in bars with no music, hotels and gondolas. What amazes me is that hard core skiers/boarders who will take a managed risk on skiing off piste are so worried about being on a ski bus even with face nappies.

go to austria – I read they are keeping their ski resorts open in december. Though they are under pressure from the EU and Italy i think to close.
Another bad ski season and how many of the operators/industry will survive…

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/private-homes-still-hotspot-for-covid-19-infection-39793204.html

TLDR COVID19 ‘case’* outbreaks are now primarily in homes in Ireland. Which is why we need to lockdown and confine people to homes.

* Standard LS caveat – cases are not infections.

From no hard border to don’t leave your house. What a pathetic self-serving bunch of hypocrites the Irish government are.

This narrative is meant to lead to the justification for invading peoples homes ‘testing’ them and splitting up families. In particular they want to start separating children from their families.

Clearly we need to ban private homes. Everyone should live on the pavement until a vaccine is available for those who haven’t died of exposure…

https://mobile.twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1331844817723252736

Supreme Court in the US waking up at last just overturned COVID restrictions on religious gatherings / services

Got to laugh at the shock that peer Review is total bollocks. Science is like religion and it’s believers these days are puritans. Fuck the lockdown, don’t do a single thing these fuckers say, do everything you can to fuck the system up. The government is the problem. The things they do are the problem. Democracy is a terrible idea. We now live in a world where even when you vote for an old Etonian we get some green woke cunt hell bent on destroying our lives. And look how we see all the Great British public just cave in like the fucking cowards they are. Theres no hope with Hitchens and all the others, like Toby i’m afraid, because they don’t call for mass disobedience. What will it take for Toby, Hitchens and the rest of them to get together and call for total disobedience to this green new world they are forcing on us with this bullshit virus. It will be too late to do anything. We need mass protests, non payment of taxes, non compliance with the stupid cunts who’s only abilities is to work some government job. The whole system needs to burn to the fucking ground. It won’t happen off course because cunts like Hitchens and Toby don’t walk the walk, maybe their Hush Puppies are just too comfortable, maybe that pension plan is just a little too large to lose, maybe that nice house with the housekeeper is enough to buy you off. Round my way people work real hard work for a job and they’re being destroyed by middle class wankers and given false hope by so called sceptics. All i see when i read the comments is nothing. One chick goes out with her leaflets, good for her, she’s a star, the rest bleat on and on moaning about not going to church (fucking hell) and other rubbish. Eight months this shit has been going on for and it’s never gonna end until we fight back.
For my part i call mask wearers out when i’m in shops, i’ll say to them as i’m looking at the cabbages, the only difference between you and that cabbage is the cabbage isn’t wearing a mask. I’m in the face of all of it, even the pigs on the street. Nearly got arrested for telling some mid twenty years dumb fuck in his batman costume that his mum must be so proud with his little batman costume and his pepper spray. Fuck the police can’t even fight like men any more. So i don’t worry about when they put the army on the streets cause these dumb shits can’t tie their fucking laces. Take your money out the bank, cancel all your subscriptions don’t buy anything on line, don’t pay road tax, car insurance, pay taxes, anything in fact to fuck the system up. I’m tired of this system. I’m fifty and don’t have many years left and i feel when i look at my son that i have let him down because i did fuck all to destroy the mass tyranny we have forced on us. For years i lived off grid and got stoned and drunk and raced motorbikes, played in bands enjoying myself but it turns out what i should have been doing is War.
Prison Planet, pay to live. Now we’re tagged and traced and spiked with goo we’re animals in a fucking zoo

If Toby and Peter Hitchens called for mass civil disobedience, what do you think would happen?

Civil war?

Nothing.

Lord Sumption has already told us that the government’s coronavirus restrictions are very likely illegal and probably would not stand up to due process. On top of that the restrictions are clearly immoral and so should be ignored in their entirety.

Do not wear masks, never get tested and make sure you never risk life and limb by being vaccinated, with one or another of Bill Gate’s or anybody else’s special depopulating brews. These are the darkest of times and without widespread and firm resistance things will only get much worse. In short, it is clear that the government wants nearly all of us dead and soon at that.

I expect others to join them. I expect Talk Radio to organise on air, i expect people to put it on the line. If you don’t then you’re not helping and are just blowing wind up my ass. It takes one man to lead us out the desert and into the promised land. Now i don’t expect a spineless tosser like Toby Young to stand up and be counted because he’s got too much to lose, same goes for Hitichens but if they did stand up it would mean a hell of a lot. They’re gonna lose it all anyway and hedging your bets won’t achieve anything except their own destruction. Make no mistake these green woke cunts are coming for you. They gonna ration energy, this is how they are going to get you compliant. They’ve got us locked up, announced their banning gas boilers, and cars and air travel. You will be forced at gun point to take their vaccine, if you’ve assets they’re gonna take them. Stand up now before it’s to late. Off course no one will, but like Churchill telling them about Hitler and they didn’t want to listen, well i’m fucking Churchill and i’m telling you these fuckers are gonna poison us, our children with goo, they’re gonna take everything and turn us into slaves. I’m ready to fight back and when you need me at the dispatch box leading the nation in the war against these globalist shills, these money lenders and religious goons, these scientists and their technological excuses for why they must run the world i’ll be there. I’m not even joking. They will kill you and your family without giving it a single thought.

I mean, you’re not Churchill though. But I feel your anger. More people should be angry, and the angry people should be angrier. This is only going to end one way unfortunately, debate is already won and nothing has changed so options narrow. We’ve all seen what kind of things focused minds on debating other issues over the last 20 years and it will eventually come to that over this, if the deception continues. It’s inevitable, unfortunately

I am just a man, a rare commodity these days, so yes i am Churchill if i want to be. I can be anything i want. I don’t know a bout you but i don’t give two fucks if i live or die but i do care about living free while i still breathe. I’m not even angry, you wouldn’t like me if i was angry.

How about President Elect?

Your opening sentence ruins the rest of your post.

I find people dont like it if I get angry….that seems to be unfashionable these days. Even my partner does not like it and I’m not sure she would be on my side if I got into a brawl with some covid nazi in a shop. I am sure that will happen one day but there will only be one winner in that one!

It’s true. I’m convinced the Gov’t, or the Covid Cabal (for want of a better description) wants us dead

Some can see what’s happening and they’re shouting warnings but no one’s listening

Oh yes, they really do want us dead and that’s been clear from nearly day one of this long planned and fake pandemic. Johnson and his government of mental pygmies have signed on to the Gates and Schwab vision of a massively depopulated future for the planet. No doubt, they will have been well rewarded for their utmost treachery.

The “Great Reset” and “sustainability” are simply code for the coming mass global genocide. The Covid-19 vaccines are their not too secret weapon and only the very naive will be bearing their arms for these toxic concoctions. Once vaccinated the remainder of their days will be spent battling pain and illness, culminating in a welcome death.

I agree with you on this and your previous post a 100%. I have been saying something similar of months now. What is required is action, civil disobedience on a massive scale and if need be full out rebellion. I’m behind you all the way as a very smart man once said : Give me liberty , or give me death!

We’ll be waiting a long time to find out.

Great post agree with everything you say..

Thanks and i appreciate your work on the Great Train Robbery.

Thank you sir I will pass your appreciation on to my friend Ronnie I could not have done it without him..
Keep the comments coming Biker Fucking ace..

You really showed those masked shoppers!

fuck your patronising post pal

Well, you are having a go at people like Toby Young and Rosie while doing absolutely nothing yourself. So yes, fuck my post if it makes you feel better.

I would strongly suggest that jb12 is a 77th Brigade operative.

“For my part i call mask wearers out when i’m in shops, i’ll say to them as i’m looking at the cabbages, the only difference between you and that cabbage is the cabbage isn’t wearing a mask”

Fucking hell brutal and true fantastic quote Biker

I call out masked people when we walk outside, but now my wife has become very angry at me

It’s time to stand up for yourself, there’s not too much time left.

I crossed the road today and found myself level with a masked zombie heading in my direction. Found myself saying “childish idiot” out loud as I got near him. He ignored me and kept on walking, don’t know if he even heard me although my American voice tends to be rather distinctive. Of course, I live alone so I have no partner to upset.

Yes I do too sometimes especially if they are young virtue signalling twats. I sound the horn on solo diver mask wearers and point to my head lol.

Great to have right good rant with all the energy ,but where do all the people live in this mask etc, hell? Me and my wife go everywhere all the shops, big, small post orifice ignore any if any comments of which there are none, just ignore the bollox, once again no prediction of the ‘ future ‘ is ever right how the fuck can it be? a time machine hasn’t been invented yet.. go Biker!. and no at 50 your life isn’t almost over…These little grey souless fuckers will never win. And Toby and Hitchens have done a sterling job, so direct your ire elsewhere.

Toby and Peter Hitchens are clearly products of the establishment and so we should be grateful for what they have done so far. The real work is now up to the rest of us and we can start tomorrow. Don’t social distance, never wear a mask and never get tested. Most importantly don’t allow yourself, or your charges to be vaccinated, unless you want them to face a painful terminal illness. The fake Covid-19 pandemic has always been all about vaccines and the vaccines are all about depopulation.

oh welcome back!

In this case it probably is bollocks but peer review is not what people think it is – ie it does not mean the theory you’re putting forward is proven as so many seem to think.

Have to say I agree with that….I would not condemn any form of resistance now….things have gone too far for politeness. Some wimps on here even criticise Annie for ripping down obnoxious covid notices…more power to her scissors! The filth only really take on people they think they can beat…give them some real resistance and they run away or get down on one knee. So many have now been selected for their race and sex rather than effectiveness in the job anyway…and its a copper that told me that recently!

Thought we’d lost you Biker – thank God you’re back!
Many of us are quieter disciples doing what we can in our own small way. It may not be your way, but we’re moving towards the same end.

CNBC: Doctors say CDC should warn people the side effects from Covid vaccine shots won’t be ‘a walk in the park’.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/covid-vaccine-cdc-should-warn-people-the-side-effects-from-shots-wont-be-walk-in-the-park-.html

I’m feeling a bit ‘conspiracy’ today. My reaction to the above article is to think that if I were trying to promote a placebo as a real vaccine, I would big up its side effects in advance. If it was just saline, the psychological work would already have been done, and if I wanted to egg the pudding, I would include some harmless crap in the vaccine to provoke some sort of predictable side effect. Curry powder or something.

Wouldn’t that be an own goal if people didn’t come back for the second dose?

Well here’s my conspiracy theory: when they thought Biden had the Presidency in the bag it was all joy and jubilation – the vaccine works and is gonna save us! – but now they think there’s an outside chance Trump is going to prove massive electoral fraud and stay president they need to prepare the ground so they can say “Sorry folks, Trump misled you – there is no vaccine round the corner”.

Or trump’s vaccine has killed half the population

Well some of them already call it “Trump’s virus”, so why not “Trump’s vaccine”?

One of my sons goes to a small school, about 30 kids. Another pupil commented how nice the food from the kitchen smelt and my son replied that he couldn’t smell it. A teacher overheard and took him into a room, sprayed some antibac spray near him and he said he couldn’t smell that either. So I was called and told I had to collect him and get him tested for covid, and he couldn’t return until I could prove a negative result. I brought some aftershave with me and surprise, surprise he could jolly well smell that! And lo and behold his test came back negative as well. What utter nonsense and overreaction from the school. And the test centre was a surreal experience as well – a converted park and ride with lots of tents and people in high vis jackets holding up signs and looking serious. It was all very baffling to be honest.

BIG SAFT× KIDS.(Not the school kids, the so called adults)
×Black country dialect

think of the few days off as a break from state schooling, a true blessing. Home educate your son or he’ll end up just another braindead zombie. I’m sure you think he won’t and he might not but chances are he’ll spend his life damaged by statist schooling.

My daughter hates being back amongst the flock now though- wanted me to bring her home yesterday – got calendar granny killer for explaining PCR test flaws and not wanting vax.

Called a granny killer for explaining the PCR test?

And yet they’re happy for old people to die alone, with their family prevented from seeing them? These sort of people don’t think at all.

Yes how many elderly people have died and will die as they can’t afford to heat their homes in the winter.

sprayed some antibac spray near him

What did they expect anticbac spray to do against a virus? What a bunch of superstitious ninnies. Funny how following the science can make you more credulous than a medieval peasant.

Sounds like they were intending for him to smell it – which presumably would require a least partially inhaling it. Using an antibac spray to test a childs sense of smell does not sound very smart.

they should have gave him a line of coke to see if he could taste, smell and feel it. or a light up a big spliff with some Purple Haze, if you can’t smell that then you’re fucked.

Personally I would just leave him to get on with his school day and have fun but then I am a crazy guy.

yeah bro it’s fun at the state school. Honestly i despair. This is the kind of bullshit i face. There is no hope when people actually think state schooling is “fun”. Maybe it is? i went to a highly respected private School where fun meant being treaded harshly so you grow up to be self reliant unlike state school were they’re all in this together in their nice wee community of compliant apes, so i don’t know. People from my school run the schools you send your children to have “fun” at and people from my school live like Kings while people from state schools work for them. Absolute tools.

Children do not need to be treated harshly to grow up to be self reliant or to have the ability to think for themselves.

My 3 year old does very much have fun at his nursery playing with the children of other poorpers like myself. The staff there are sane. My 13 year old does not describe school as fun but he still chooses to attend while having to option of being home schooled.

Good for you that you got to go to a ‘highly respected private School’ where ‘People from my school run the schools you send your children to’ and ‘people from my school live like Kings’. Hope your enjoying living like a fucking king!

you steal the money from my pocket to have your child educated, why the fuck should i pay for anything for you? I do enjoy living like a King, and why wouldn’t i? better than being some dumb fuck who sends his kids to state school

If my childs school wanted me to subject my children to unnecessary medical testing I would refuse.

They told you that you had no choice but to impose an invasive medical procedure on your child? That your child would never be allowed back to school without it?

Yes, they said he couldn’t come back until he had a negative test. To be honest I didn’t question whether that was lawful or not and just went along with it. The only good thing was that I was able to book in a test straight away. But that doesn’t detract from the fact that it was utterly barmy to send him home because he couldn’t smell food being cooked in the kitchen! Apparently the teachers went into panic mode and started deep cleaning the place. As my son pointed out, we all have different senses of smell. I just thought it was complete bonkers.

If common sense has also left schools that says a lot doesn’t it?

We’re really, really screwed.

I think you’ve discovered the Brut vaccine

Lockdown 3.0 is ideal cover for the Crashout Implementation Period and transition to Brexit’s blasted heath/sunlit uplands.

Lockdowners and Brexiters are two interrelated species of monkey who reach their apotheosis in Boris Stupendi Mundi.

Nothing wrong with Brexit. Everything wrong with the fact that it still hasn’t happened after four years. If the powers that be had wanted it, it would have been managed perfectly well.

Lockdowners are almost entirely Remoaners. The same smug, semi-educated self regard of the cushioned middle class who want mummy to save them from the nasty working class/virus. Everyone I know who voted for Brexit is a sceptic.

I voted to leave. There is what seems to be an authoritarian type of leave voter who thinks that obeying the government is patriotic and virtuous, I’d say they are a minority.

I don’t really see any point in dividing along leave/remain lines though. It seems like a small and distant issue when you consider that almost every country in the world has bought into this nonsense.

Let’s take our freedom back. Then we can debate about immigration, fishing, farming, trade etc again. It’ll be a novelty!

L L,See my reply to Jake.

From what I read here everyday, we’re an eclectic bunch at LS.

Just in the interests of proportionality. I supported Corbyn, campaigned against Brexit and would do so again. I will not wear a mask and I have actively stood against lockdown. Having said that, I have been pretty much shunned by everyone I know!

I still support Leader of the Opposition Corbyn.

You hit the nail on the head with that comment, my next door neighbor fits that description,needless to say I have no time for the shit he represents…

That’s a pretty stupid thing to say given how many people on here openly state they voted Remain. As another comment here stated, it’s a useless way of dividing the country: I meet stupid Remainers and and some very smart Leavers. And indeed, it should be Remainers who are calling out the govt’s dodgy stats and fearmongering on this.

You think Remainers would call out the very people they want to remain with? lol

Actually, Jake, I’m a remainer (working class/ left school at 15/ no qualifications, etc) and they don’t come any more sceptic than me.

Agree with you on this. Those I know and suspect who voted Remain are also lockdown zealots and mask fanatics as well. And oh, they suffer from TDS too.

Is that your explanation for the same phenomenon in rEU? And most of the rest of the developed world? I thought Britain was too insignificant for other countries to be bothered about Brexit, certainly not bothered enough to destroy themselves as a precaution.

Anybody with half a brain cell can see they are starting to talk up Lockdown 3.0. Even though most of us will be going in to lockdown 3 next week. We saw it in the summer, the government and MSM softening us up for a second wave etc. They are also talking about a third wave, err sorry, where is the second wave! This will never end. Heads need to be cracked and people need to go to jail.

Encouraging to see in our local news that our MP is encouraging us to remain in tier 1 where we were before – 14 new cases yesterday, still worryingly high but has dropped in the past few days. Depending on what Hancock decides looks like some sort of missive to him later. Maybe he is a bit more sceptic than I though.

Tier 1 is still servitude. And does 14 new cases mean cases, i.e. people who are ill, or does it mean positive test results? Either way, it’s not worryingly high. People need something real to worry about.

No need to ‘worry’: they are not ‘cases’ just positive test results which are virtually meaningless.

Yes, friend just rang up. His father is in a care home and has tested positive but has no symptoms. I pointed out to him the false positive stuff, seem to have cheered him up a bit.

14 cases is a joke, locking down an area or region down for 14 (if the are ill) people is absolutely insane. It is akin to cutting off your leg because you have an in grown toe nail. I bet they are all false positives. We are held to ransom over a PCR test that is not fit for purpose. It has been pointed out to the Government and SAGE by some of the most prominent scientists on the planet. But the government know it isn’t fit for purpose, they just do not care.

We truly are doomed if we don’t push back very strongly. We could dress as BLM or XR and the Police will happily let us protest. In fact they may just kneel or dance before us.

It will not end unassisted. It has to be ended, from below. The state will never end it.

Yes, we have had enough words, it it time to act.

Toss them in the Thames!

If there are so many symptomatic outbreaks in hospitals (I am assuming symptomatic since people are dying) then what does that say about the much vaunted use of clinical quality PPE by the medical profession.

Hospital acquired infections probably arise principally from the ventilation systems. Modern hospitals have no windows and low ceilings. Compare with the hospitals designed before the NHS was invented: high ceilings, narrow wards and cross flow ventilation from windows on either side. This fits with other high spread occurrences in cruise ships, tube trains, restaurants and cozy households.

Telegraph reporting dosage error putting claims about Oxford vaccine efficacy in doubt.

There is no vaccine, never will be.

Some reasons to be hopeful there is a reversal coming:
Oxford/astra trial dosing error is drawing a lot of criticism from mainstream sources. Big Pharma stocks trading like shit.
Sharp reversal in crypto currencies last 24 hours- can be a useful indicator in my experience
US election is not over. Trump Pardons general flynn- his attorney Sidney Powell files law suits alleging massive election fraud in georgia/michigan.

The Great Reset they have planned for us is NOT going to plan. If we are saved from tyranny it will be due to luck and americans. The last 9 months has proved beyond doubt that we in britain are largely a invertebrate species.

Indeed. At least lockdown is a partisan issue in the US. Here, we have supine compliance and collaboration.

President Trump may yet have to save us in 2024.

Don’t rule out his inauguration for a second term in 2021.

It makes me livid to think that all of this suffering and false imprisonment of humanity is because of Big Pharma. Big Pharma is a global terrorist organisation, their shareholders complicit

Medical Mafioso.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-2.3-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617

Lockdown/ tiers and legislation

I see the “Guidance” document widely circulated about “rules” for the new tiers, but not the actual legislation. I assume this is a new statutory instrument. Maybe it is not public until later on?

I ask because I can be forced to comply with the law but I can choose to ignore “guidance”, such as travel between tiers for non-essential purposes. The telegraph notes such travel is a “should” which in legal language means guidance. I think the government are trying to scare/ bully people by not making this clear.

If anyone has a link to the legal documentation I’d be grateful.

The legal side of all this is tricky and much of it dubious, I have written to Toby and team to ask if they can do a summary article for this newsletter. There is a Government dashboard of Coronavirus legislation
https://www.hansardsociety.org.uk/publications/data/coronavirus-statutory-instruments-dashboard#list-of-coronavirus-sis
But the draft new regs are not yet listed and so I presume they are not yet available?
Many of these lock-down regs are written under the Public Health Act, my understanding is that offences under this act should be addressed by first a warning and then the issue of a summons. The offences and fines under this Act do not seem to meet the criteria for being an arrestable offence but you can be arrested if you fail to provide the information the authorities need in order to issue a summons.
It seems to be a different type of law than a simple criminal offences law although it does seem that some have attempted to use it that way.

When’s it’s here, its here as an “amendment” or its own separate instrument:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi?title=Coronavirus%20

Then this gets updated:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1326/introduction/made

This is their M.O. every time. They talk broadly about the new restrictions and say “there will be law”. When the law comes out, it only relates to part of what they announced, but by this time, the plebs think it is all law. Of course, they don’t bother to check.

Absolutely right. However the big problem for those of use smart enough to know our rights is that all of this is enforced by the volunteer citizen Stasi who are champing at the bit to get out there and enjoy the power trip from shaming some poor sod who’s actually doing nothing illegal or morally wrong. Even the quiet types have a very woolly sense of what the law actually is on all sorts of things.

A more hopeful observation is that I personally have managed to talk others into doing things by clearly explaining that guidance is not law.

If there is so much covid in the hospitals, and it’s so deadly, then why are there not hundred of dead doctors and nurses?

If you imagine what a real pandemic would look like, and then compare it to this, where are the similarities?

Good point.

Same thing in general, Richmond. How many people do you see struggling or collapsing in the street or supermarket, you know, “Dropping like flies” ? I honestly haven’t even heard anyone cough.

The definition of ‘pandemic’ was changed by the WHO in 2009 after pressure from Pharma companies

2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019: Death is a fact of life and its also a fact that old and ill people die every winter.

2020: Death is an entirely avoidable thing and we should everything in our power to not let anyone die at all costs!

Correction, people cannot be allowed to die of Covid.

Any other cause is just fine, and doesn’t bear mentioning or comparison.

And in between birth and death is a life to be lived. But politicians have locked us away from this life. The birds outside are freer than us

Well, so far they are doing a very poor job. Check Worldometer.

Found another intersesting article on how inappropriate the PCR test really is. Its a fairly long article translated from French, technical in places but not overly difficult to follow.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11/no_author/the-covid-19-rt-pcr-test-how-to-mislead-all-humanity-using-a-test-to-lock-down-society-2/

It confirms that an amplification Ct above 30 is meaningless, as is any reported result unless it provides the amplification factor used.

But hey, when did mere facts ever help our cause.

Or get in the way of a good story!

It is now crystal clear that Hancock, Gove, Johnson, Whitty, Vallance and SAGE are not going to change direction, will not listen to alternative views and are impervious to criticism and ridicule. They are too far invested into their version of the Schlieffen Plan and cannot/will not admit they are wrong.

All of us here and sceptical journalists newspapers and scientists are wasting our time trying to convince these people to change course.

The only relevant question now is how can we can get Johnson, Hancock, Whitty and Vallance out of office. This is the only way this madness will end.

So, how do we do it?

Individual acts of defiance and convincing others to do the same. And pray for divine intervention.

I do feel there is also some mileage in challenging the legal side of all this, but as we have seen with the Simon Dolan case this is hard and expensive to undertake.

If the increasing PCR challenges succeed that will have some impact.

And a long, drawn out process.

Get leafleting.

I don’t see how anyone but their backbenchers can get them out of office.I believe that CRG and 1922 committee are our best, but very slim, hope in that respect.

That’s how I see it. Starmer is content to score political points. Only opposition comes from within Johnson’s own party.

When you listen to Sir Graham Brady speak; concise, erudite focused, you wonder how on earth mumbling, dithering umming and erring Johnson and Hancock became front benchers let alone Prime Minister.

But as Malone says in ‘The Untouchables ‘ What are you prepared to do?’

Only mass non-compliance will work, non-violent the Gandhi way.

They probably want violence so they can respond with martial law, never give them what they want!

Film police aggression and send it far and wide.

I don’t think anyone here has believed it was possible to change their minds for a while now. It’s about changing public opinion, bringing pressure to bear via the media and backbench MPs

Ideally a large chain like Wetherspoons should refuse to close and let the government take them to court.

Yep. Ditto the Retail Association – all shops should open, no “Covid safety” measures.

Refuse the fines and force the government to take them to court.

In fact everyone should do it – hairdressers, gyms, restaurant, museums, concert halls, stately homes, etc.

That should tie the government up for 10 millenia or so.

Interesting to see that the health department had hired Topham Guerin to report back on what the public think. All those comments and tweets that us sceptics make may be making a difference as it feels as if there could be a slight change in direction next year, with Hancock talking about people taking more responsibility for themselves by Easter and others being free to get back to normal.

You can bet they will blast out the doublethink once they see which way the wind is blowing. Look a the hand wringing and crocodile tears if your MP responds to letters. They’ll claim they have always been ‘balanced’ vs the extreme views of SAGE, that we’ve had a very liberal lockdown compared to other countries, cook the books re the economy, and finally pat everyone on the back and pretend they’re absolute heroes, before retiring to a lucrative job advising shadowy banking cartels.

Some may disagree, but I feel there’s a large proportion of the population who are quietly resisting in their own small ways and we’re just not seeing this. I think I’m a bit of a rebel and then I come across friends who I assumed were total zealots knowingly breaking the rules.

We are unlikely to get back to normal unless there’s a huge shift in public opinion

Tier 1 is the new normal

June 2021? Compliance is dropping now and can only go lower after the Christmss truce.

We need a big push from large chains, especially in hospitality and travel.

But that still doesn’t resolve the problem. There is a global entity pushing governments around the world to lockdown and impose restrictions. A controlled demolition of economies. Businesses are being closed down in Canada, Australia, Europe.. It’s the same script – but who’s giving the orders?

Who is acquiesing as well.

America as well. Governors are increasing restrictions in some states and the number unemployed is rising again.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/26/matt-hancock-former-neighbour-won-covid-test-kit-contract-after-whatsapp-message

Nice!

Our taxes will go up due to the waste and they will sip champagne in the sun

When you think about it, the present situation of sheep and collaborators who when they are told “jump” they ask “how high?”, is a natural progression from what’s been happening for a number of years now.
My wife and myself have never watched “Strictly” because we don’t find people dancing particularly entertaining or “Bake off” because we don’t find people baking cakes for the same reason and don’t get me started on “I’m a celebrity, etc” and similar brain dead programmes, but when we are asked “who do you think will win any of the aforementioned shows and we reply ” we don’t and have never watched them”, the reaction is a mixture of disbelief, incredulity and pity”.
“You don’t watch strictly, etc? but everybody watches, etc”.
No!!, we don’t do things because everybody does it, thank you, because we can think for ourselves!!!
What do F S’s think? or am I just becoming an even more miserable sod ?

Used to watch Strictly but haven’t done so since they brought in the props and silly theme weeks.

Have never watched Bake Off, I’m a Celeb, etc.

So no, you’re not alone. Can’t be arsed with any of those programmes. Apart from The Crown have not watched anything on Netflix either.

Not at all, its all ultra woke rubbish, bread and circuses.

If you watch their bilge you won’t be questioning anything, you won’t be a critical thinker.

If you went on Who wants to be a millionaire, you could only rely on the audience (when they existed) to correctly answer entertainment type questions, most people don’t seem to know much else reliably, it seems!

I don’t know if you watch Pointless, Kev?, but the woeful lack of knowledge concerning History, Literature, and General knowledge is truly amazing.
Most of the contestants are university graduates, professional people and the like but when confronted with questions that an average 12 year old would answer correctly, they admit “I’m really struggling with this board, Zander,”
For instance there was a question concerning European battles and one question was: “In which battle did Duke William defeat King Harold?”, the 100 people who were asked by the programme scored in the 80’s.
We rest our case.

I watch that and can be found shouting at the television when they can’t fill in the blanks in the titles of some of the most famous novels in English Literature or don’t know the most basic facts of our history. Get them to name a soap star or a dog in a TV series and I haven’t a clue but they are all over it!

Ditto.

The “Celebs” are even worse – thick as pigshit

I do actually watch pointless, I know the clues in the name, I just like quizzes.

Have to agree, the general level of knowledge of some contestants, and the 100 asked is shocking

Once there was a picture of George Soros and not one person knew who he was, that is just seriously uninformed.

one of the worst things , and this is relevant for Covid, is the excuse that the subject of the question happened before they were born. These people only understand or know their own life experiences. If they did not experience it, it did not happen. And of course the education system is so broken that kids do not get told facts, or contexts and so the general knowledge is pitiful.
And Covid? again they cannot contextualise it. They dont know there have been worse flu epidemics in the past. They have no idea of history and how the current lockdown fits with that history and the removal of freedoms that we now experience.

The thing is, mjr, is that A A, a self confessed part of the “Nobility”, related to royalty, I believe and R O, a child of a single working class parent ( I believe) went to “Oxbridge”.
R O’s barely disguised contempt of the woeful lack of general knowledge is one of the best parts of the show.

Never watched any of them but get the same reaction, every time. Asked just yesterday about the ‘Jungle’ and she was astounded that I didn’t think Ant and Dec were hilarious.

Thanks for that, Dan, also: Am I the only person in the country that thinks that Michael Macintyre is surely the most unfunny person in the world?

Nope, he is about as funny as a cold sore. Awful, the Coldplay of comedy

McIntyre I find OK sometimes in small doses, he does a bit about the US and American people, which myself & a friend in the US find funny. Though imo he is very heavily influenced by Seinfeld, who did some of this stuff in the 1990’s.

No you’re not. I find him intensely irritating.

I don’t get what the deal is with Ant & Dec either… 10-15 years ago perhaps they had their moments, but now they seem awfully tired and distinctly unpleasant even at times. Regardless of what people think of I’m a Celeb, some of the challenges & trials are difficult & involve people facing really significant fears, to see Ant & Dec howling with laughter, as people have faced things like mental health barriers, even panic attacks, isn’t funny at all, it is dreadful.

They are truly dreadful, about as funny as eating cold sick!

How they keep winning those awards escapes me. Zero talent.

I do watch Strictly and Bake off because I enjoy them both. I’ve never watched Big brother, I’m a celebrity, love island etc. We can all make our own choices. I do agree that celebrity culture is quite damaging. The thought that because someone can act well or play a sport well allows their opinion on matters outside of those spheres to be considered valuable is madness.
I do wish though that we could get a real celeb with global appeal to speak out against lockdown but they are all too comfortable and keen on virtue signalling.

Really good point.

I agree with you

I agree, Philip, though of course I might just be a miserable middle-aged sod. Watching other people doing things on TV and social media has become a substitute for going out (or indeed staying in) and living life. Twitter tells people what to think and Instagram tells people what they should value. None of it is honest and it has had a devestating impact on people’s expectations and self-concept around the world. The ground work was indeed laid over the last 20 years or so and now the masses are passive and completely comfortable with lies and artifice as long as they are told they are safe and feel entertained (using the term loosley).

Hate Bake Off because I actually like baking myself. It’s The Apprentice but with a veneer of genteelity, actually just as exploitive and cruel. They edit it to manufacture drama, of course, but they also deliberately set the contestants up to fail by giving barely enough time to do the bake and probably vet the entrants to make sure they’re not competent enough to know how to hack the blind tasks.

I am a long way off being an old sod in years but I’ve largely ignored the idiot’s lantern in recent times, being doing things of personal value like playing piano or modelling.

I love baking and do enjoy Bake Off. I’m not unaware of the way the contestants are selected but it’s their choice. Also in recent series I think they are better at the basic competencies but not as good as they should be. It’s quite fun to shout at the television “don’t you even know what that is?” Actually, that happens mostly in the Sewing Bee which is I also enjoy. I happen to know one extremely competent seamstress who would never fail at any of the basic or more complex techniques who has failed twice to get past the first level of the selection process, probably for a lack of interesting back story.

I don’t mind Bake Off occasionally, the blind tasks always made me think too. Paul Hollywood used to just come up with something bizarre that nobody had ever heard of, I’m sure he just made it up sometimes, “today you will bake a dooflicky” yet miraculously at the end, everybody’s bake looked similar enough, ie they all knew exactly what it should look like!

I used to watch Bake Off when it was on the BBC. However as each series went on it got more and more Woke. I only watched it to see the bellends cry over a fooking cake FFS. Now I no longer have a TV licence so I’m no longer subjected to the Media’s nudge and brain washing tactics.

Yes I play the piano a lot too….its real and worthwhile not like the junk on TV.

the majority of the population have become automatons who live their lives vicariously through the adventures of others on these tv shows. So that is not just watching the tv programmes themselves, it is also living in the social media bubbles that surround them. The extreme of this is watching gogglebox and watching people like themselves watching these programmes and sharing in the excitement of them.
From this we now have a situation where Covid is now treated as a celebrity game show, followed by the populous through daily tv shows (BBC news) and similarly maintained by social media. For a lot of people it is not real life anymore.

You are spot on. Why the fook would anybody with half a brain cell want to watch some thick chav bellends watching other thick chav bellends? When people ask me if I watch it, I look at them like they are thick. Fooking automatons.

What this situation has shown me is, a lot of people I work with didn’t have much of a life before all this shite started. The amount of times I’ve heard people say, “well I don’t go to the pub, I don’t go abroad, I don’t go out to restaurants etc, etc so lockdown doesn’t really effect me that much”. It makes me want to scream and throttle them. Unfortunately, I believe my work place is a microcosm for a good many people in this country. They may not agree with lockdown but as long as they can watch their shite shows on the telly they are quite happy to give up all their freedoms. I really think if the government banned smart phones there would be more of an outcry than having their freedoms taken away. Sad but probably true.

Joint the club. OH and I think exactly the same FP. We would also add Britain’s got talent, the Voice and the X factor. We cannot stand the “hype” surrounding these programmes. Newspapers and magazines run stories on these contestants as if being on these programmes made them someone special.

On topic, OH went to our local butcher’s this morning where he met a fellow maskless customer who had no badge or lanyard. They started talking. It appears that this man’s sister works in the ICU of our local hospital, which is a major trauma unit for a large area. She said that they were busy but by no means overstretched for this time of year. There were a few “Covid” patients but it was mainly busy with car accidents.

Several people behind the counter joined in the conversation, one whose daughter works at the hospital too and who had been quite poorly with Covid as she had underlying illness. (Her husband didn’t catch it though.) He was as sceptical about the numbers as anyone there. OH was able to tell him the numbers of deaths with ONLY Covid written on the death certificate which he was very surprised about.

What a pity that our MP didn’t look into these numbers more thoroughly before he voted for lockdown. He told us that the numbers coming from the hospital had swayed him in his decision.

No-one in the NHS or government wanting to ban cars then, even though accidents might ‘overwhelm the NHS’.

Nope, you are correct. Dumb TV for dumb people. OH was watching first dates last night and the adverts in-between were pure indoctrination, don’t get me wrong I know the power of advertising but the adverts were clearly pushing a complete change to our way of life. Needless to say the tutting didn’t go down to well with the OH.

I used to enjoy MasterChef after it first returned in its’ new format (after Lloyd Grossman), but I remember being in a BBC chatroom complaining along everyone else about the narrator.

Sorry but you aren’t a miserable sod i don’t even have a tv.

Never watched any of those programmes either. Or Big Brother, The Apprentice and the rest of the reality crap. I see morons in the street every day, don’t want then on my telly. In any case I didn’t renew my TV licence three months ago and feel rather cleansed.

I get the same disbelief as i dont watch any of them…they are just porn for the brain dead. Thats why we are in this mess…most people are brain dead.

I don’t have a television

Financial Times: Doubts raised over AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine data.
https://www.ft.com/content/4583fbf8-b47c-4e78-8253-22efcfa4903a

First end of March 2020, then Summer 2020, then Christmas 2020, then March 2021, then Summer 2021. Let’s be clear. Fergusons modelling ran for two years, the Coronavirus Act expires in March 2022. Restrictions of some kind will exist until spring 2022, and that is the absolute MINIMUM.

Only if we let them.

As always a great interview with Neil Oliver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhNoCKFDO8I

Neil was very spot on about how the SNP and many Scots view the English. When I lived there I noticed that many of them were “friendly” towards certain foreign nationalities but as Mr Bart cynically pointed out (ans he’s Scottish) they’re white and their nationality is acceptable to them.

They certainly don’t like Scots like Neil Oliver or my husband who deviate from the orthodoxy. During the run up to the referendum the way the likes of Chris Hoy and Susan Boyle were abused for their unionist stance was appalling.

Its obvious its nothing about a low mortality virus. So was this the ‘new normal’ they talked about. We need new parties, liblabCON should be consigned to the dustbin

https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf

It’s back baby

Does anyone have access to Prof Pants down on Twatter ? Is it possible to send the link and ask him when he will be reviewing his model following this paper .

Suddenly all these experts come out of the woodwork saying things like don’t kiss your granparents as you may be passing on a large dose of virus.
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/leicester-coronavirus-experts-3rd-wave-4737676

The businesses and shops who put notices saying No mask No entry are complicit. They should welcome people wearing masks and using exemptions and should make it clear.

No entry, no customers. They need boycotting. They are also breaking the law by stopping exempt people enetering, its discriminating.

If the owner is afraid (assuming independent) they should close, hide away from the beastly virus.

Yep. There are plenty of shops and pubs that I won’t ever be frequenting again because of the attitude of their owners/employees.

In the same way that they think a piece of cloth is a gas mask, and that guidance is law, they think they will get sued if someone catches the virus in their shop. Which can easily be proved, of course…

Agree. Have been boycotting those that have “no mask no entry” or those who have bullied and harassed customers for not wearing a mask.

If they treat their customers like lepers then we should reciprocate by avoiding them like the plague. See how they like that.

Thankfully I’ve never seen one of those yet. There are plenty which don’t mention exemptions though. I am still nervous going into any premises these days but so far nobody has challenged me and my lanyard is in my bag, never worn.
I do follow the arrows and keep my distance and am constantly amazed by how mask wearers think they don’t have to. My last 2 trips to the M&S attached to our local service station I was nearly knocked over by a mask wearer striding the wrong way up the aisle.

I’ve noticed that too – many mask wearers seem to think they’re invincible.

Not been challenged for awhile now and I notice that many shops have removed their dots, one ways systems and even the hand sanitisers now are tucked away discreetly. No-one seems to bother with them anymore.

Definitely more shop staff not wearing muzzles.

One farm supplies shop round here has gone full on zealot with a huge sign of that next to two sheets of apparent “rules”.

Yeah I already got a list of local shops I will never use again

Mu local health food shop, run by a lovely French couple, has a sign unmasked customers welcome.

R2 news just now: “Wancock expected to announce this afternoon that most areas will be in Tier 2 or 3 from next week”. Well, blow me down. Never saw that coming. Still, they finished with a joke: Sunak says “There will be a tangible change from the present stuation”. Not round here, mate, never felt a thing. And who are you again, sorry?

Tier 1 will be the new normal, to which we may return when the vaccine is widely rolled out.

Distancing, masks, track and trace, mass testing, everything being pre-booked, restrictions on mass spectator events and crowded pubs, dancing, big private gatherings, travel, health passports, online learning, will be with us forever.

They won’t because people won’t accept it. Even the gullible. Not enough of them and not passionately enough to resist the resistance

That’s what they want. And they might still get it.

What gives me some hope, though, is that I really think the majority of pro-lockdowners really do think the vaccine will mean back to old normal. And when they realise it isn’t, they might (possibly) wake up.

There are so many links and references I cannot always find stuff, does anyone recall some discussion about the long distance transmission of SARS-Cov2 in the wind?

https://twitter.com/rbrooks45/status/1331893539098288128?s=20

Apologies if this has already been posted. Late yesterday, while everyone has been focusing on the Oxford/AZ vaccine and its ‘dodgy science’, seems all is not going exactly to plan for the Pfizer vaccine either:

Doctors Warn Side Effects From COVID-19 Vaccine “Won’t Be A Walk In The Park” | Zero Hedge

I believe this nazi Klaus worldwide green reset thing supposedly to be brought in under the pretense of a global plague has back fired, simply, the old corona has not killed enough people and the populations have/are waking up to this mass fraud inflicted on freedoms. The elites were prematurely brazen in March, emboldened and arose from their hellish chambers far too soon -it is still a battle for us but the fear in the eyes of the establishment will become more apparent. #headswillroll

They got their timings wrong, for instance lockdown 2.0 here was clearly timed wrong as most stats were showing reductions in numbers before it started.

It is looking more and more like a failed coup. Fight isn’t over by any means, but they’ve got it wrong and it will back fire. Le Penn will win France and the EU will start to fall apart. People will start to question climate change because they’ll realise scientific consensus can be a scam after all.

I still think they may have a nuclear option up their sleeve – a new virus perhaps? But at the moment it looks a bit like they went too early and it’s all going to come crashing down. Might take another year, but bar very, very risky further pressure through mass murder (which I wouldn’t out past them and which I couldn’t even picture myself giving credibility to six months ago) I think they are fucked.

I wish I could agree, but it’s looking more and more like a hugely successful global coup. A coup that’s managed to hoodwink most of humanity (thanks to the mainstream media and human stupidity)

Germany, France and much of the world is descending into totalitarianism. The fascist psycho Premier of Victoria, Australia Daniel Andrews, is promising new lockdowns in the future, even though ‘cases’ are miniscule. A huge high tech vaccine factory is being built in Melbourne. I’m not hopeful unfortunately

It still relies on keeping people afraid long term. I’m not sure – short of literally committing genocide. – that that is possible. For a year? Maybe. But in order to complete the coup they would have to remove elections and at that point I think even the idiots that make up the majority of our population would wake up. And if they didn’t here, they definitely would in the US. Biden – with all the things in his favour from a self-destructive sitting president, to fraud, to censorship, to a fear-riddled public – still didn’t gain control of all the pillars of government. A more level-headed populist candidate would have wiped the floor with him. There’s still hope.

American elections are the height of corruption, but Biden and the Democrats frighten me. They’re totally on board with face masks and the Great Reset malarkey

Hasn’t Gates been on about smallpox coming back recently?

A pox on Gates.

Herr Schwab has warned of an internet virus attack. I fear this would be easier than a human virus to get going and could have devastating effects on infrastructure (real or faked) giving a fine excuse for martial law etc and when it comes back a closed internet with any dissenting channels shut down.

Kancel Klaus’s internet.

I keep thinking – at least we’ll have a good laugh if it finally emerges Klaus is a full on Nazi.

By the way, a little known fact: MrAH was motivated by v similar thinking to XR and the WEF – that unless he took action, the world would collapse into an abiotic state, collective death. It was never clear quite how this was supposed too happen, but then again XR nutters can’t explain how “extinction” is going to happen in five years.

None of it matters anymore. We can’t stop it. The virus is just the cover story for turning off the engine. It’s being done to save humans in the long term. We can’t burn fossil fuels anymore, that’s it. I won’t be protesting, i don’t care if Toby does or not, Hitchens doesn’t matter. You, me everyone are going to live in a new society where we will be forced to become the production not the consumption. There are way too many people and they all want to burn fossil fuels, aint gonna happen.
When the Royals are telling you how we need to go “green” what they’re saying is we’ve noticed the plastic in our fresh Trout we caught up at Balmoral and it’s just not acceptable. That and the change in our atmosphere resulting in the meting of the ice caps leading to the warming of the earth and since the growing of food depends on a few inches of top soil this is not a good thing. So it’s gonna change. Like it or not. The garbage party is over. Good. Who isn’t glad that we’re smart enough to realise that burning up the earth to make shit we don’t need to sell to people who don’t need it who have to work factory hour jobs to buy it, who fucking likes living like that? Wait don’t answer, most people are state educated and they’ll be just fucking dandy with it, others will go it’s all fake and Biker is being duped by “environmentalists”. I’m not sure whom i despise more, the compliant because it’s easy or the dumb fucks who think the earth being destroyed is fake. Anyhow it matters not a jot what you think, the closing for business is underway. We’ll be less well harmed than others but it will still be devastating. We will soon be living like it was in 1850.
The virus is a distraction so all the talk, the rants, the jokes, the insults, the graphs, the hopes, the fears, the fantasies and the time count for nothing. If you don’t have the skills for living how humans are meant to live on this earth you’re fucked. This isn’t going to happen over some long period of time by the way, it’s happening now. By 2030 you won’t recognise the place. This is the plane coming into land and it’s getting a bit bumpy but when it hits the runway the wheels are off and it’s anyone’s guess what’s gonna happen.

Some of the happiest times I had were in the 1850’s

i’m with you, 1200 was my favourite, i loved being a Templar Knight and invading Israel and giving it to the Muslims. That really pissed them off. Just did it for a laugh as well. What did us Knights care about bullshit religion? It was amazing watching them spend 800 years getting the resources together to get it back. Well done them.

I was able to get into the 1850 World Cup Final without even buying a ticket, just turned up and had a seat in corporate

There wasn’t a world cup in 1850 but it was when the F1 first started

Not in China mate.

Domestic air travel has already recovered and is growing year on year.

Perhaps that ‘highly respected private School’ did not create the superior being that you assume yourself to be.

This is not about saving the planet any more then it is about saving people from a virus. It is entirely about impoverishing and therefore enslaving everyone. It does not matter which justification you buy into as long as you buy in.

i don’t consider myself superior, i consider myself a speck of dust mate. Or someone who pays their own way and takes fuck all from anyone.

I must admit I prefer the old Biker rather than this Greta’d version

You can hide from the environmental damage all you like but it won’t change the facts.

Finding out that Biker is actually a climate nut is quite revealing….

Yeap, I have to say yet again that I 100% agree with this. There is not stopping them ( see agenda 2030)and the time for talk was around 7 months ago..All this is now just pissing in the wind and the sooner we get accept that we will live like slaves for the rest of their lives ( seen the video from WEF , you know the one that starts with 2030, you will own nothing and you will be happy)..The Global warming si the biggest scamm in history but that will not stop the NWO.

The Rapists Dad, Sadist in Chief, and Refuser of Welsh Children’s Winter Clothing has started pumping his gums again

This guy is too stupid to know when he should keep his gob shut

I read about a woman in Wales who threw herself from a motorway bridge. She’d become depressed from lockdown. I wonder if Drakeford knows, and if so, does he care?

Yoi referring to old Turtle Head? He should wind it in.

Thank you to all my FS’s who replied and commented on my piece about “Strictly”, etc.
I really appreciate the thoughts and the efforts that people take to reply to my “rants”.
If it wasn’t for LS and Talk radio; and I’m left-wing but I value common sense more than my political view point, I think that I would by now be dressing up as Napoleon and making plans to conquer the world.

On the subject of TV I can recommend “The Bureau” – French spy series full of people smoking and shagging, and being generally ruthless. Very little fake niceness or virtue signalling or overt political preaching. On Amazon, so no ads to worry about

Thank you.

Is the full title The Bureau of Magical Things?

imposter …. i am Napoleon.. I have the appropriate hat and Marengo is nibbling grass on the lawn waiting to go . Spain sounds nice this time of year.

I wouldn’t bother with Moscow though.

Apparently the Treasury will be saving upwards of £600million a year as a result of the excess elderly deaths this year (not having to pay their pensions). Is this something that was known by the Cabinet earlier in the year and if so would it not point to misfeasance in public office to sign off on the NHS pushing elderly patients back into care homes with a reasonable expectation of increased deaths as a result?

It may take years, but I think there’s going to be an equivalent of the nuremberg trials and these people that knowingly signed the orders will have their day in court and years in prison.

I’m not so sure, they are all slippery fuckers. Even Blair, who should have been a slam dunk for imprisonment, is still on the loose.

One can only hope, although why waste more money on a trial when their guilt is self-evident.

I crunched some numbers about such matters earlier. I have run them through the Imperial College computers and they all check out.

Assume it is all over by Spring – unlikely, but you have got to start from somewhere. So that is one year the Downing St dictator has taken from everybody’s life.

The average life span is 80 years.

The average sentence for taking life is 20 years.

The rough UK population is 60 million.

The law take 20 years of life away from every murderer. The fat dictator hasn’t (yet) taken the whole of our lives away only 1 year so, 20/80 = 0.25 years is what he owes us for that.

Multiply this by 60 million and you get 15 million years as a fair sentence.

With time off for good behaviour he could get out after 10 million years. We will still be fighting coronaviruses then, but at least we won’t have to fight the ignorant dictator at the same time.

Of course if you felt extremely vindictive you could use similar calculations to add extra time for the money he is intending to steal from us, or even for the GBH inflicted by his police forces on peaceful protesters or for the slaughter of the elderly in care homes, it all adds up.

In the end it means that 10 million years from now we will not have to face life with Johnson the Brave in charge. A chilling fact remains though that he may have a multitude of equally vapid and insane descendants by then, so maybe Mr Gates ideas about eugenics are not so bad after all.

Chilling. That’s what this is all about. A slaughter in plain view. The Liverpool Care Pathway is the same. I think it’s since been renamed with another nazi-esque euphemism

‘He accused a ‘supine’ government of capitulating to ‘junk science, doubtful statistics and unwarranted assertions by the medical profession’.
The occasion?
Lord Stoddart of Swindon, who was a non-smoker, speaking about the ban on smoking in public places in 2007.
I do not like smoking and, apart from acting on stage, do not smoke, but I oppose any ban on it; minor threats to my health cannot override your freedom.
I think I will send this to Toby and Will for inclusion above the line. My immediate source is the Daily Telegraph, of 25 November, o bituary column.

Breathing smoke-free air is also a right. Both sides have a right to smoke and a right to breathe fresh air. Smoke-filled air is not fresh air unfortunately. Catering for both sides is the answer.

Incidentally, passive smoking is a real thing. Decades ago at a health check, my father was told to cut back on smoking. He didn’t smoke but he worked in a staff room full of smokers. The smoking situation is a poor analogy for Covid.

To say I disagree would be mild.
However, one regulation I would like to see is smoking permitted indoors provided there is an open fire. I do not how this works but I have found that when there is an open fire the acridness of tobacco smoke disappears completely. We used to own a small holiday cottage in North Wales and that had open fires; I didn’t smoke but my builder did and whenever he came to discuss something he would light up and the tobacco smoke would disappear. I do not know how this works, but I can assure you it does.
Also, I have tried pipe smoking and cigarette smoking (for parts on the amateur stage) and I can understand the pleasure of pipe smoking. But I cannot understand cigarette smoking at all; highly unpleasant.
But I do not want to ban it. I believe in freedom.

I’m an ex-smoker. With the ‘ex-‘ bit has come a realization of how intrusive smoking actually is in shared environments – so it can’t be reduced simply to an issue of ‘freedom’, any more than a ‘freedom’ to intrude on my neighbour with loud noise.

I invest no virtue in non-smoking. It is just a fact that it can be an intrusive nuisance.

A “right to fresh air” is a fantasy. It’s a bit like a “right to have food to eat”.

Nevertheless, the reality is that the disagreement between smokers and people who dislike being around smoking is one that has to be resolved in a society. A law allowing property owners to ban smoking, and requiring them to advertise their rules at the door, say, would have been fine. Laws forbidding property owners from allowing smoking on their premises is a disgraceful breach of basic rights.

Regrettably the latter is what we got, because zealots don’t care about the rights of those they regard as bad or foolish people.

Apologies if I have missed this, but did the pan-bashing protest idea gain any momentum? I don’t use twitter and not followed these comments fully, but remember seeing a suggestion about Thursday 7pm bashing pans for freedom.

I actually dreamt last night that I was banging a pan out of my window.

Are we to get negative interest rates or rampant inflation?

Answers on a postcard please

Depends how easily they can steal all of our money? Negative interest rates will take care of anyone savings and rampant inflation will mean no-one has any money anymore. So both!

Can you both at the same time?

We may be about to find out!

Negative interest rates were until recently a fictional and crazy idea.

Yes, I think – Stagflation. Japan is prone to it. Japan actually gives me some hope, though. It has loads and loads of debt. Is less productive than people think it is. Has things like stagflation. Very old population with lots of dependants. But, is also very successful and wealthy. Maybe we can bluster our way through this?

Japan has a persistent current account surplus. No matter how much they print, there’s always a bid for the Yen. At least for now.

Not so, the UK. Sterling is dependent on foreigners recycling our persistent net currency emissions into UK financial assets and real estate. If those sterilization flows ever reverse (and they may do so at any moment), sterling will continue its ongoing collapse.

Rampant, that is, hyper inflation.

Great cartoon today. The young people of this country have been massively betrayed.

From an NHS whistleblower.

NHS COVID Vaccination Programme – Communications Resource Pack

“Begin to socialise and generate interest in/excitement for a vaccine using your internal channels”

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1331641681452658688
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The digital NVIS system is currently being used to capture flu vaccine information. It will also be used tp track vaccination status of staff for the COVID-19 vaccine ….. and will be used to support vaccine planning and response activities, both locally and nationally…..

That’s horrifying for the cunning use of language. I’m afraid of the NHS – never thought I’d say that

Yes. Be afraid. It’s not just a health care system, it’s a political platform.

Its a No Healthcare System

Re vaccines, and somebody please correct me, but as I understand it, this novel coronavirus covid 19, has yet to be isolated, apparently there is “no example of quantified isolates of the coronna virus”….

Correct

Sunak says UK economic decline expected to be 11.3% this year: that’d be the second-sharpest in Europe

https://twitter.com/FraserNelson/status/1331591844376010752

see lovely red bar 2ND from BOTTOM

Two ways they could look at that:

1. The cost of our actions are too high. We should reconsider.
2. The cost of our actions are necessary to keep the virus under control. We must keep it up.

One of them is sensible and the other is what they’ve chosen to do. This doesn’t take into account all the other costs to lives and livelihoods.

I’d snap his hand off for a mere 11.3% …

Dear lock

If you supported the lockdowns, shut the hell up about the reckoning By Laura Perrins
November 26, 2020
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/if-you-supported-the-lockdowns-shut-the-hell-up-about-the-reckoning/

In the comments section on this piece there is a photo of Matt Hancock meeting Klaus Schwab at Davos – VERY SINISTER

TWITTER Darren of Plymouth @DarrenPlymouth
16 Nov

Klaus Schwab and Matt Hancock at Davos , they discussed the 4th Industrial Revolution. (2018)

We know it as a conspiracy called #TheGreatReset

KEEP WRITING TO YOU MPS ABOUT THIS EVIL

They still don’t get it. The Tories face a landslide defeat ……

They = Conservatives

https://twitter.com/Sherelle_E_J/status/1331879804858216448

Who to, Labour? Two cheeks of the same arse.

All the major parties seem to have an incredibly similar globalist Davos technocratic view of the world. I think independent candidates are the only real way forward after this year.

Plus the Establishment seems to have a mind of its own now, do MPs even matter?

A free and fair election? What a quaint notion!

Worth watching, speaking at an anti lockdown event in Sheffield, she grew up under Soviet rule so understands the propaganda aspect.

Tanya Klymenko PHD Molecular Biology Senior Lecturer in Biomedical Sciences at Sheffield Hallam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLwp0w8T61Y

Interesting. I note that she does think that the disappearance of influenza is a real phenomenon rather than a data artifact.

And she has a PhD…. most contributors on this site knows more than her

I suppose the financial system will collapse through trust, QE or unserviceable debts

Just wondering what’s best new currency? Cigarettes, eggs? How many eggs for a packet of cigarettes?

Four chicken or two duck. make me an offer

It always used to be cattle. There are plenty of those around.

gold/silver never go amiss. easier to carry around than cattle …

also cigs, spirits, dubious pharmaceuticals, …

Just wondering what’s best new currency?

Face masks?

It has been clear that the financial system will collapse for a very long time. There are many people who have been working on systems that could replace it and return more control to the people who use it. We have such systems, cryptocurrency.

The collapse of the current financial system could ultimately be a very good thing for most but it seems those who own it have no intention to relinquish their power and are doing everything they can to make the peaceful revolution impossible.

Not only crypto – Lewes has its own paper currency.

We are asked to believe that the regimes command team fell apart because Princess Nut Nuts was refused extra sprinkles on her cup cakes

Really?

So what happened?

What caused Cummings and Cain to jump ship

Why have Rutherford and Aaronson disappeared?

Why won’t the Pig Dictator come out to play?

Was it the realisation that the whole nine month shit show was based on false positive PCR tests?

Ironically a win for Simon Dolan could offer an escape route for the PD

Like many i was prepared to give boris a chance a year ago but at the time could not and did not vote for him . I simply do not trust tory scum. I loathe the man and wish Mussolini type lynching on both him and that repellent reptile hancock.

One country that hasn’t had a lot of attention during this madness is Japan. Reading up a little on their response, it’s been very low key and not backed up with legal penalties or fines. Lockdownistas will probably respond with lazy Orientalist cliches about conformity, mask wearing, natural reserve etc, but I can only suggest such people have never witnessed the mass drinking festival that is Tokyo every Friday night. Also, the Japanese simply haven’t bothered with the “muh tesssting” fetish. Here’s Dr Shigeru Omi, chair of the government’s expert committee on the virus, and by the sounds of it a very sensible sort:

“If you are ready to use an excessively large amount of money then [mass testing] is possible, but it’s not really practical,” said Dr Omi. He added that the tests were imperfect so there would be a significant level of false positives — people forced to isolate even though they did not have the virus — and false negatives who were infected but would believe themselves to be safe. “Does [mass screening] lead to decreasing the level of infection?” he said. “No. It’s very minimal. If you screen this very low-risk population it will not result in a reduction in cases.”

Bad form to reply to my own comment I know, but I would be inclined to look at very low levels of obesity in Japan, a diet very rich in foods high in Vitamin D, and pre-existing immunity from previous SARS-type outbreaks in the region.

I think another critical difference is the structure of the healthcare system. Perhaps it is less prone to the type of group think that leads to the blind acceptance of murderous treatment protocols from the WHO and the propagation of hysteria.

Hi sorry replied to TyRade on your point below.

I have a feeling that eventually it will be found that most of the excess deaths attributed to the virus were the result of medical negligence.

If it was up to me we would shut down the NHS and replace it with a system based on the Japanese model. Those who have been pushing for lockdown as the way to treat a mild virus would be bared from working in the new system.

Perhaps they are only counting those who die ‘of’ and not also ‘with’ C-19.

The figures mean nothing without knowing the exact methodologies which are used to count ‘deaths’ and ‘cases’.

Very true.

and a relative absence of ethnic ‘others’ who are (genetically, lifestyle-wise) pre-disposed to COVID susceptibility.

This from May of this year:

“In Japan there is no illusion that health care is free; people can see exactly how much they are paying when the tax demand arrives; and, on top of that, they need to get their wallets out when they actually use it. And the cost is considerable (my annual bill was £5,000 pounds last year).
What’s more, the insurance system, introduced in the early 1960s, is not weighed down by any sentimental nation building mythology. As a result, criticism is not deemed heretical. The idea of applauding the nation’s doctors and nurses, hard working people in a nation of hard working people, would be regarded as absurd.
This practical, unemotional, outlook discourages overheated rhetoric and probably leads to more rational decision-making. Unlike the UK, Japan has not put its health service on a ‘war footing’, and the production lines of existing hospitals have not been re-tooled to deal with a single product. Treatment of other conditions has not been seriously impacted.”

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/can-the-nhs-learn-anything-from-japan-s-health-care-system-

Sorry was meant to be a reply to Saved to Death!

Yes even in the heart of Tokyo it’s an amazingly homogenous country, and the permanent foreign residents are mostly Korean, indistinguishable to the Western eye and very similar genetically.

And yet there are intelligent people about who actually seem to believe that there’s no really significant difference in their immigration situation from ours, because there are some people of Korean ancestry there!

We (speaking of the US sphere countries in general) were heavily indoctrinated during the C20th to “know” untruths like “diversity is good” and “homogeneity is bad”, when in fact, while there can be benefits to a degree of diversity, the core strength of a nation is precisely its cultural homogeneity. That’s why it’s a nation and an empire is not.

Anyone who asserts that”diversity is good” or the equivalent is part of the problem, pushing in the direction in which we have already gone far too far rather than applying the brakes.

Japan tells us a lot. Excellent quote on T and T.

The lockdown fanatics have T and T as their get out carrot. Just 3 weeks, throw more billions at it and call ourselves New Zealand.

It’s absolutely crazy. No lessons learned. Like Labour constantly repeating the line that if only we’d locked down in 2014 we’d be in a better place. They haven’t learnt a thing since February.

I think they are just digging themselves deeper an deeper. Unable to admit mistakes. Same as all lockdown zealots.

I get why those invested in Pharma like those that lead us enjoy advocating lockdowns as it boosts the vaccine desires. And ££££. However, why people seek to live in fear when the sceptics provide the positive message I do not know. They just can’t change.

All factors, most likely yes. Diets in Japan also contain generally high levels of things like Omega 3’s, essential fatty acids, largely from fish and seafood, but all good stuff generally for the immune system.

Another factor I suspect – look at how they treat their elders. Watch almost any travel programme, look at their ancient traditions – anything to do with cultures, or things like martial arts – the most respected are invariably the older generation, they are looked up to, and taken care of pretty well. Over here (and to be fair, not just us, many western countries) they would have you put out to pasture once you get past a certain age. Emily Morgan on ITV gently suggested older people ‘broach the conversation’ about pulling the plug if they get ill in hospital, in case they took up space & medical care from a gender-neutral trendy young progressive. Just look at the TV ads aimed at older generations: nothing but funeral plans, incontinence products, & how easy it could be to give up a portion of your house….

And they don’t really have multi-generational households either because housing is expensive. Families will likely live near the aged parent but they won’t be living together in the same house.

Sadly I hear from my sources that they are all wearing masks (though I think it is peer pressure, not law) and offices are operating at reduced capacity. My source at least thinks it is a “big thing”, but I do not know to what extent that view is shared by the general population.

I’ve no doubt not everything there is rosy, but the wider response seems far saner than ours. Globally there’re only Belarus and Tanzania that have put their foot down entirely against the madness.

Indeed so – at least a sceptic in Japan would only need to deal with peer pressure rather than being persecuted by their own government.

I think South Dakota came pretty close to putting their foot down entirely.

Mask wearing in Japan, certainly in certain parts, has I think sometimes to do with cultural reasons, some to do with pollution, they can get build ups of smog sometimes. So I think covid is probably only one factor in the equation.

A Japanese friend said they have semi-compulsory annual medical exams due to the fact that the employer typically pays most of the insurance premium and expects people to comply. There’s also a lot of ‘fat shaming’ there and very few obese people.

Also some interesting studies on the effects of BCG vaccination in Japan:

‘The BCG vaccine coverage in 1999–2002, 2004, and 2012 in five prefectures with no COVID-19 infections was significantly higher than that in five prefectures with a high prevalence of infections.’

‘Our findings suggest that routine infant BCG vaccination coverage in young generation had a significant impact on prevention of local COVID-19 spread in Japan.’

https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(20)30547-8/fulltext

And elsewhere:

‘In multiple studies comparing the effect of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) worldwide, findings thus far suggest lower rates of infection and mortality in countries with universal neonatal Bacille Calmette-Guérin (BCG) tuberculosis vaccination policies compared with countries without this practice.

In research published in July 2020, every 10% increase in the BCG index (which reflects the extent of a country’s BCG vaccination) was associated with a 10.4% reduction in mortality from COVID-19.’

https://www.pulmonologyadvisor.com/home/topics/lung-infection/bcg-tuberculosis-vaccine-potential-protection-against-covid-19/

Phase 3 trials of BCG vaccine protection against Covid 19 for health workers are ongoing, funded by Murdoch and Gates foundations.

Might offer a face saving way out of all this silliness (BCG vaccine proven to be safe), and BCG boosters might help even the already vaccinated elderly since the protection wears off after 60 years or so. Might even be a better idea as a general anti viral than influenza jabs

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey, UK: 26 November 2020

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/26november2020

Incidence has been falling in previous weeks from before the lockdown but no incidence figure for England this week because

‘ This week, there have been some issues with the data from one of the laboratories, which has introduced greater uncertainty. More details can be found in the notes for sections 2, 6 and 7. Because of the significant amount of quality assurance conducted for estimates of positivity rates, we have not been able to include incidence data this week but it will be available next week as normal. ‘

Another example of why PCR testing is shambolic

They’ve only had 9 months to get this right. Give them time.

And how convenient that they will only become available after 2nd December

The regional variation in prevalence are here. The different regional peaks and some falling/some rising is yet further evidence that lockdowns don’t work

And the age variation in prevalence is here

Peter Hitchens has joined the Free Speech Union

https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1331479103468396544

@iromg
Facebook, like HMG, plainly yearns for actual censorship of dissent. Yes, we should mock this, but we should also worry. Power hates dissent. Free speech is very much in danger. I have just joined the Free Speech Union. @toadmeister
.

Good for him. A significant move for him personally because he has said that he struggles to like Toby Young personally or politically. They are both politically on the right, and to some degree the non-authoritarian right, but Toby’s more libertarian inclined than Hitchens. Though I think a lot of the difference is style rather than substance.

But the ongoing rapid advance of attitudes built on the illiberal, intolerant precedents set in the late C20th by the treatment of political incorrectness and traditionalism, like this coronapanic crisis, forces strange fellowships and alliances.

Not that strange, both on the right, in favour of free speech. Sensible that personal liking is not a factor. Principles rule !

Well up to now it appears Hitchens remained rather aloof from the FSU.

But indeed by no means as strange as the ongoing uneasy alliances in here…

I joined a few months ago and would recommend it.

High hopes for Dr Borger’s deconstruction of the PCR test. I think the PCR test should be the focus of any lock-down scepticism. If it can become common knowledge that this test is completely unfit for purpose then government will have no choice but to move to antigen testing (which we know has a much lower positive rate). Get rid of the ‘cases’ and they’ll find it difficult to justify further restrictions.

As has been said for months, remove the notion of cases and it would be akin to a bad flu year, just without the economic devastation!

Absolutely agree. However the PCR goes beyond the reduction of casesif it is binned. It so glaringly unfit for purpose that the question then has to be asked why did we allow it?

And that is the real can of worms. That is where we see people who either knew it was a nonsense and kept quiet. Or, if they manage to squirm out of the first trap, those who said they are not experts in PCR and referred its use to others (PHE perhaps).

That shows them to be unprofessional and many in SAGE will fall into this category. Willfully ignorant. Hancock too.

I think if it gets to court, it’ll have huge ramifications and fall out. They’ll be back stabbing galore.

Won’t they just move the goalposts? So if 200-odd PCR cases per 100,000 panics them into Tier 3000, and the lateral flows only find half the cases, they will just use 100 cases per 100,000 to trigger the same alert.

I work in the care sector, at a care home which looks after adults with autism and challenging behaviours – i would like to share my story with Lockdown Sceptics, as i am being forced out of my job, due to declining a weekly COVID 19 test and being mask exempt – how do i do this ? It would be great to hear from people who read my story and can potentially help or give advice ! Thanks in advance

Someone (sorry, can’t recall who) said yesterday that it would be an idea to have an identifying badge to display our non-compliance to the bollox. From what I’ve experienced out and about today, we already have it – faces that show expressions.

Exchanged many smiles, knowing looks and “good mornings” while out for a walk earlier. And, to my great delight, overheard two elderly ladies saying it was all a load of nonsense, that they’d lived their lives and wanted to continue doing so without being mollycoddled. They then right royally took the piss out of someone who had warned them not to share a car journey with another friend, just to be on the ‘safe side’. Music to my ears.

I think people are becoming increasingly worried about the economy, future job losses and unemployment, the reality of having a health passport, e.t.c. that the light switch is finally going on in their brains to realise just how utterly ludicrous this is. Also people have had enough to be told who they can and can not see and hug. It is wearing thin now for many. More and more becoming sceptical.

What astounds me is how long it’s taken them. I was warning back in March that you don’t just press ‘pause’ on the economy with the expectation that it will just magically bounce back. Of course, no-one listened to me. But I pointed out to a couple the other day that their pensions and savings might not be all that secure as they dished out the faux-sympathy to me. Sad that it’s the money that will turn them and not the fact that they’ve had their liberty and freedoms stolen.

Exactly, when peoples finances are threatened it soon makes them realise! People wont give a shit about Covid over their own money! I actually received an email today from my Marcus Goldman Sachs savings account stating that the interest rate is going down as of 11th December.

Me too! The one bright thing from this all for me, though, is it has made me do things I should have been doing anyway. Like getting my savings out of cash and into a mix of stocks, crypto, precious metals etc. All more risky, of course, but so is leaving money in a savings account with high inflation around the corner…

Savings you say??? humm interesting.
What are these savings you speak of?

We have money in premium bonds but unsure yet how they will be affected.

Safe in the sense of the government itself would need to go bust for you to lose the money (although that can’t entirely be ruled out now…). But, liable to being in effect massively reduced in value through inflation. No-one has a crystal ball, but it is likely that investments in inflation protected assets (gold is the most popular) are safer for the next couple of years.

Down to what?

Frustrating, as we have all been saying the same but be proud to be fully awake

Unfortunately where I work the vast majority are still asleep. Many are still going on about “if only people followed the rules” and get upset at people who don’t wear masks or not wear them properly. I think part of the problem is the vast majority of my colleagues are millenials – mummy and daddy can ride to the rescue if they’re made redundant so it doesn’t really matter. I think it will be a rude shock for them if their parents can’t bail them out because either a) they’ve been made redundant themselves and b) their savings and pensions become subject to tax raids and plummets in value.

If they’re thinking that grandpapa and grandmama can help out, I seriously doubt it as well.

The Christmas situation should slip more of the genie out the bottle.

Just back from the barbers. He was masked up and customers ahead of me. Not a peep from anyone as me and my son were the only ones sans mask. Good chat from the barber who moved his business to his chair in his garage during lockdown, so no skin off his nose.

A good lad. I’ll be putting my money into his business from now on.

Good stuff but why doesn’t he get rid of the mask. I hear that a lot…’it’s all bollocks’ but they still wear a mask

Exactly. Whenever I hear that refrain I just say “well, why don’t you ditch the mask?” If everyone who thought it was bollocks did this, it would be over.

I’ve no idea. They’ve been really brainwashed with the masks.

I honestly think the number of people who won’t see their families indoors again until “early Summer” must be vanishingly small. Surely even Wanksock must be aware of this? Or am I overestimating him?

Any update on the woman arrested outside parliament ?

She was beaten and forced into a face nappy in the back of the van, tazered mercilessly and then suffocated.
Probably.

Last year (2019) was the 100th anniversary of the Peterloo massacre in Manchster when the armed militia charged into a crowd of men and women protesting for reform and killed at least 9 with many hundreds seriously injured.
Much handwringing and pious statements by politicians at the memorial unveiled last year near St Peters Sq.
A year later the same politicians threaten, with violence, unarmed, mainly frail protesters, and hire mercenary thugs with little command of English (according to witnesses) to carry out the harassment -applauded of course by the BBC and most of the media.
I hate what has happened to this country and am amazed at how quickly the veneer of a civilised, tolerant society has been torn away.

She was dropped from a helicopter at 5,000 feet above the North Sea

To Rosie:

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Anything questions on what is in the folder just ask on the e-mail provided.

Dr Hillary Jones says that he won’t be spending Christmas with his kids because, blah,blah, blah,blah.
LUCKY KIDS!

He’s an arsehole.

Given his track record, he’ll probably be spending it with someone else’s wife.

He is a wanker just like his mate Piers Morgan.

He is orange and his teeth glow under UV.

No great loss for the kiddies then.

It’s all too obvious what this will mean for us regionally. London and the South East will either be in Tier One or the least restricted while the rest of us will be in Tier 3 purgatory. many of us predicted this, which is of course not difficult.

Lockdown Tier look up tool at Gov.uk has crashed – more World Beating tech

Have just read the open letter from the UK medical freedom alliance referred to in the Round-Up above. It’s brilliant. And finally gives me the answer I’ve been seeking to the headlines (or should it be headlies) about efficacy of the vaccines.

‘The public understanding of the term “effective” could be very different from the reality. It is likely to be understood that out of 100 people, 90 of them will become completely immune to SARS-CoV-2 and will not to transmit the virus to their loved ones.

As mentioned in section (III), none of the current Covid Vaccine trials are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospital admissions, use of intensive care, or deaths or can determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus.’

Just to add, we probably all knew this but it’s a very useful explanation to give to those desperate to have a vaccine. There’s a lot of other good information about vaccines and their development in the letter, strongly recommend a read.

It still uses guilt shaming language and invalidates the idea of autonomy. Some people want to live their lives fully, even if that means risk. The medical establishment and government has no right to override bodily autonomy

Interesting you got that impression, i thought they made the case very well for fully informing people of risks and that people must be allowed to make their own decisions as to whether to have the vaccine once they have all the information.

I’m going to decide how much info I need, thanks maggie. I have enough already. Feck ’em.

(‘allowed’ ?!)

Yes – it’s a very good summary of the case for extreme wariness that a lot of people seem totally oblivious of.

Birmingham tier 3. Holy fuck. That’s that city wiped out then.

Is that the wider West Midlands as well?

MH saying the lockdown has “successfully turned the curve”. I am hoping beyond hope that he’s going to get a serious backlash from backbenchers when he finishes his statement.

But lockdown did fuck all. And the net result is still tens of millions of people unable to even have a cup of tea with each other indoors. How is that a success. Someone please shoot him in his nut sack.

Twice, slowly

As long as they eventually move on to a more lethal target area, I’m ok with that.

God he is a fucking liar.

Wanksock blithering on about numbers of nurses and “allowing” Christmas….

Latest from the Crowhouse with Max Igan. Always worth a watch.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9fnwC4Kudxk2/

Got to feel sorry for him. A very rare voice of sanity in the Australian police state.

Hopefully this will concentrate minds: if you want to get into Tier 1 don’t get tested

I wish there was a way to get to Tier 0 or even further if possible

Maybe Tier -4 is paradise on earth

Sunlit Uplands???

That’s the problem. The cities like Liverpool, which did as it was told and “co-operated” with testing will move towards the good step, whereas cities like Manchester which got a bit stroppy, will go straight to the naughty step.
Hancock has just said that mass testing is the answer. Of course it is, if they use the lateral flow tests rather than the PCR procedure, that is. Lateral flow is a magic test which brings numbers right down. Luckily for me, they’re rolling it out in my city at this very moment!

This is not true. If the Government was concerned about health, then it wouldn’t have cancelled millions of NHS appointments and created a time bomb of poverty

Further, for a virus that is ‘harmless to the vast majority of people’ (Chris Whitty, Downing Street briefing) there is no need, nor has there ever been a need to lock down and impose restrictions

I’m hoping that this will end and in the future people will look back and see the crime against humanity for what it is. But if the conspiracy theories are correct, ie, the Great Reset etc, then the future looks very bleak for all of us. There’s a reason Vallance et al have shares in the architecture that’s repressing us

I was being very sarcastic, Jamie. I hope you realise that!!

Full Lockdown Tiers List:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/full-list-of-local-restriction-tiers-by-area

We’re all doomed.

I’m not sure if this has been posted in here before – it’s from the WHO. Dated October 2019 and entitled:

“Non-pharmaceutical public health measures for mitigating the risk and impact of epidemic and pandemic influenza”
https://www.who.int/influenza/publications/public_health_measures/publication/en/

The whole thing warrants review because there’s so more in here that has essentially now been binned, but some take away recommendations in there:

Entry and exit screening for infection in travellers is not recommended.

Internal travel restrictions are conditionally recommended during an early stage of a localized and extraordinarily severe pandemic for a limited period of time. Before implementation, it is important to consider cost–effectiveness, acceptability and feasibility, as well as ethical and legal considerations in relation to this measure.

There is a very low overall quality of evidence that quarantine of exposed individuals has an effect on transmission of influenza.

Home quarantine of exposed individuals to reduce transmission is not recommended because there is no obvious rationale for this measure, and there would be considerable difficulties in implementing it.

Active contact tracing is not recommended in general because there is no obvious rationale for it in most Member States.

Ten RCTs were included in the meta-analysis, and there was no evidence that face masks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.

Moderate quality of evidence involving >6000 participants that face masks are ineffective in reducing influenza transmission in the community.

I could go on and on. Obviously there’s some very sensible stuff in there like wash your hands and don’t cough or sneeze in people’s faces!

Well worth a read overall. What a difference a year makes!

When people do stupid things they usually continue with their stupidity and cling onto anything that will back them up rather than admit they were stupid.

Very similar to our very own:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/213717/dh_131040.pdf

Minimise the potential impact of a pandemic on society and the economy by:

• Supporting the continuity of essential services, including the supply of medicines, and protecting critical national infrastructure as far as possible.

• Supporting the continuation of everyday activities as far as practicable.

• Upholding the rule of law and the democratic process.

• Preparing to cope with the possibility of significant numbers of additional deaths.

• Promoting a return to normality and the restoration of disrupted services at the earliest opportunity.

No sneezing in people faces? what the hell???
I love sneezing in people’s faces
and spluttering.
I do it all the time. Damm, its the one thing I miss the most with these new restrictions, it’s the face sneezing….sad times indeed.

Yes – this was the key document, only released in the autumn of 2019.

It was a considered and comprehensive review of no-pharmaceutical measures

… and none of the major ones now being deployed were generally recommended.

Doing more or less nothing was always the orthodox response

What has been done this year is unorthodox, untried, controversial, dangerous

Yet what Sweden did (actually quite a bit more than do nothing, albeit a great deal was voluntary) is now universally characterised as the risky approach and the lunacy everywhere else, never before done in history, is suddenly, the safe, normal option

Some costs that Sunak has not factored in

1 The cost of the de-Nazification of the UK. We have a huge swath of people who are completely ignorant about what has been done to them. It will take time, money and resources to mend these people

2 The full cost of the vaccine indemnity. What if they bump off a million or more with this gunk?

3 The cost of legal claims in the civil courts ‘Have you been locked down anywhere in the past twelve months and it wasn’t your fault. Ring ambulance chasers are us’

These are excellent points. Another term for de-Nazification would be deprogramming (the largest such exercise in history).

Matt Hancock is giving his statement to the House. He opens by claiming that the government’s measures are working. He states that the government has made provision for people to see their friends and loved ones over Christmas. He states that we cannot just go back to normal, but must suppress the virus. He says the evidence shows that we have to make the tiers tougher. He claims that the tiers are determined by the data on cases and hospitalisations. He states that the majority of England will be in tier two. He does not say which areas are in tier three. He says it is everyone’s responsibility to not pass on the virus. He asserts that mass testing will break asymptomatic transmission and cites Liverpool as proof that testing reduces infection – and he says Liverpool can therefore go into tier two because of their efforts. He says the government will provide local authorities with support to bring down the numbers. He says virus spread quickly and take a long time to bring down and therefore we must all follow the rules.

The website with the details of the tiers apparently crashed immediately the information was posted.

He should either be in prison or a straitjacket!

Definitely a straight-jacket.

You know what they say about insanity.

Yeah but he could be let out from a straight-jacket. I vote for the concrete overcoat too.

If his motivation is his professed concern to save lives, he is clearly irrational, irresponsible and incompetent. If he has another, hidden motivation, he is guilty of crimes against humanity.

It is the latter, without doubt.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Let’s have both, just to be on the safe side.

He will be in prison, and he will not be the only one.

For that to happen, those in power must relinquish that power. Why would they do that? We have seen in the American election that these people have no intention of playing by the rules if that means letting power slip away.

Concrete overcoat!

What a total, utter lying c@nt that man is.

He asserts that mass testing will break asymptomatic transmission and cites Liverpool as proof that testing reduces infection – and he says Liverpool can therefore go into tier two because of their efforts.

And that will be backed up by the MSM and the plebs will all believe it, see it as a way out of their tier prison and march off for testing.

FOOLS!

How can anyone think that testing individuals removes the virus from the individuals? The claim that it does is not even wrong; it is a category error. One might equally assert: Thursday is purple.