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309696 NorthumbrianNomad, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 15, #1 of 218 🔗

Good morning.

The kind of people who collect commemorative mugs, are collecting commemorative mugs of Chris Whitty. This is what we’re up against.


309698 ▶▶ Hugh, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 5, #2 of 218 🔗

Whitless? Why on Earth?

309699 ▶▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to Hugh, 14, #3 of 218 🔗

You can get a PRAYER CANDLE with Jonathan Van Tam on it as well, while you’re at it. It’s getting properly fucking medieval.

309701 ▶▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 5, #4 of 218 🔗

Looks like it’s not going to end any time soon doesn’t it?

In happier times I thought we might be getting back to normal by October. Will we even be back to normal this year? Or ever?
Edit – I must admit I have long felt that medieval times are underrated and misrepresented, but I take your point.

309712 ▶▶▶▶▶ annie, replying to Hugh, 27, #5 of 218 🔗

The ‘Middle Ages’ is a very loose term that covers a very long period. It had its horrors – including a pandemic that killed one person in three – and it had its glories.
It had God. It invented universities. It built cathedrals. The church held out the promise of eternal life in Christ. People lived in perpetual hope.
We have the Covid Devil. We turn every building into a jail. We trash universities and, for good measure, schools. The demon priests of Covid hold out the threat of death, with living death as the only alternative. People live in perpetual terror.
The Middle Ages had a lot going for them.

309725 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to annie, 7, #6 of 218 🔗

I suspect that if people then could conceive of a time like ours, they would have considered quite a lot of it barbaric, and not least the tragic events of 2020. In fact there would have been an uprising if this had been inflicted on them.

But be of good hope. The truth will out in the end, the heroes and heroines who stood up to evil celebrated in song and films.

I repeat Gandalf’s words – “It is not ours to decide the times in which we live, only to decide what we do with the time given to us”.

PS, What is 77th brigade? What on earth was all that about yesterday?
Oh well, don’t let the buggers get you down etc.

309732 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Eliza P., replying to Hugh, 15, #7 of 218 🔗

The 77th Brigade do exist I’m afraid. Government paid goons (ex-soldiers and the like I believe) and they do sit and spy on us and try and stir up trouble and they are pretty open that they do exist. I’ve come across comments on some anti-Lockdown pages that I think look a lot like them at work – and not “real” posters. They’re probably reading this page too – in fact I’d be surprised if they aren’t and, if so, I’d like to warmly wish them the Christmas/New Year/rest of their lives that they deserve (I’m sure we can all imagine what that is – say 30 years in prison wrongly condemned for a crime they didn’t commit).

309737 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to Eliza P., #8 of 218 🔗

The A-Team?!

I’m more worried about the ones who seem authentic but are just you know what. I remember that terrible story about an agent posing as an environmentalist of some sort…insulting and degrading.

309740 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Llamasaurus Rex, replying to Eliza P., 10, #9 of 218 🔗

Indeed they do. They are an actual part of the army, dedicated to cyber etc and counter “misinformation”. Officially, publicly, now assigned to Covid-19 related tasks. MiniTrue.

309764 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Eliza P., 4, #10 of 218 🔗

Yes, and they better be making contributions to the upkeep of this site.

For any 77th guys and gals reading, see the ‘Shameless Begging Bit’ in each day’s post.

309802 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Suze Burtenshaw, replying to Eliza P., 2, #11 of 218 🔗

When I spot one of them I usually say ‘Come in no 77, your time is up.’ or something similar. Makes me smile, anyway. 🙂

309821 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Nick Rose, replying to Eliza P., 1, #12 of 218 🔗

I always ask them if the weather is ok in Berks, and a comment about the temperature around 77 degrees

309775 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Mr Dee, replying to Hugh, 1, #13 of 218 🔗

R.e. 77th, google up Tobias Ellwood MP.

309749 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to annie, 6, #14 of 218 🔗

I chose my words badly, I suppose. I’m fascinated by the Middle Ages, from the music of Hildegard of Bingen to the much-maligned (actually much-ignored) Byzantine Empire and the Roman de la Rose. My shorthand “medieval” was intended to reference and mock the return of superstition among people who, presumably, think of themselves as rational, modern folk. But not even the most devout secularists truly gets away with not believing in anything. Witness “the faith in [the] science”. And all religions exist across a continuum of intelligence and (for want of a better word) enlightenment. The Christian who buys a prayer candle bearing an image of JVT is about on the same level as the Taoist who chants spells to make himself rich. Neither is a fair reflection of their religion.

309766 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to annie, #15 of 218 🔗

I want to learn more about the Late Middle Ages in particular, and do a bit of research. Trouble is, I can’t read the writing from those days …

309790 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ annie, replying to TJN, 2, #16 of 218 🔗

Late medieval French is a doddle if you know modern French. And there is some fantastic writing out there.
Les Quinze joies de mariage is about the funniest book I know.
Or try Froissart for the splendour and glory and ridiculousness of the Hundred Years’ War. Translations available.
Or François Villon, who wrote the greatest poem in the French language, La Ballade des pendus (ably translated by Swinburne).
In English, Malory isn’t hard in the original, and there are updated versions. He has his tedious times, but his account of the last battle and death of King Arthur has rightly been called ‘one of the finest tragedies in the English language’.

309857 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to annie, 1, #17 of 218 🔗

I don’t know any Modern French! Languages are a weak point for me, including Latin. I have copies of various Medieval documents in English that I need to transcribe sometime, but can’t mount up the courage to get going yet. I’m fine with Elizabethan handwriting, but anything before that I start to struggle.

I’m going to get Lord Sumption’s 4-volume history of the Hundred Years War.

309729 ▶▶▶▶▶ Eliza P., replying to Hugh, 4, #18 of 218 🔗

I must admit I’m not the worlds most patient person and hate waiting for anything if I can help it (though, goodness knows, I’ve had a lot of practice – eg not able to find a way to buy my first house till 34 and that was back in the 1980s) but I often wonder just how much longer I can wait for Life to get back to Normal. We all know we were told Lockdown would be for 3 weeks and here it still is 9 months later. I could say that I could do with a crystal ball to tell how much longer it will be back before we are graciously allowed to have Normal again – only I’ve just remembered I have a crystal ball and don’t use it LOL. Maybe I ought to get rid of that crystal ball – in case I’m tempted…it works…it tells me They will keep this up for years yet…

309735 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to Eliza P., 9, #19 of 218 🔗

Their time will come, and it will come when enough people say “I am mad as hell and I’m not taking it any more. It was the Labour party in 1906, in 2015, The United Kingdom Independence Party were the vehicle, we have seen off the North East Regional Assembly, the Congestion Charge. This is going to be a bigger battle with high stakes – perhaps we are getting into “6 grey men” territory, people who will make the Hillsborough coverup look like a walk in the park, but we will get them in the end. How did that song go? “We are the ninety – together we are mighty – we are the ninety nine per cent”. In the mean time, there is lots of little things we can do – we had some friends round tonight, in tier 3, no masks or any of that (I literally ate out of someone’s hand!), probably against “the rules”, we are being political, we are making a stand just by being normal, What was that song about the man with the satisfied mind? That. Don’t let them get you down, right wins in the end.

309913 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Hugh, #20 of 218 🔗

In the middle ages, the ‘superstition’ was rooted in a vital faith, or in long-standing mythology and practice with real significance. The covibollocks is just shit, a horrible degradation of rational people. There is a big difference.

309742 ▶▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 1, #21 of 218 🔗

And I bet most of these people would consider themselves far more entlightened than their medieval forebears but, as you say, they are no different.

309920 ▶▶▶▶ Noumenon, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, #22 of 218 🔗

Well at least we might have the Renaissance to look forward to.

309718 ▶▶ annie, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 4, #23 of 218 🔗

Pity we no longer have chamber pots. Gazunders with a picture of Hitler were very popular during WW2, I’m told.

309769 ▶▶▶ Chris John, replying to annie, #24 of 218 🔗

An etching of Woody Fingerdick to aim at on the urinals?

309726 ▶▶ Eliza P., replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 1, #25 of 218 🔗

Words fail me – brings a whole new meaning to “get your ugly mug over here” – as he is ugly too LOL.

309761 ▶▶ TJN, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 1, #26 of 218 🔗

Ok, that’s it. I’m calling it: Peak Insanity .

309697 Hugh, replying to Hugh, 10, #27 of 218 🔗

Sick of this lockdown. Will it be over by Easter? Any point booking summer holidays? And what if this vaccine doesn’t make a difference?

309703 ▶▶ Hugh, replying to Hugh, 7, #28 of 218 🔗

And anyone know how much all this is costing and what will happen when the fools run out of money?

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309849 ▶▶▶ Bill Grates, replying to Hugh, #29 of 218 🔗

It isn’t supposed to end , these are the early stages of an evolution.

As for running out of money, no problem there just research the IMF financial reset proposals .
The govts will hoover up delinquent assets and hand that over to the global banking cartel in as collateral.

309881 ▶▶▶▶ Llamasaurus Rex, replying to Bill Grates, #30 of 218 🔗

Yep….this will give the elite all their money back. We (scum masses) don’t deserve money or liberty. Just bread and circuses. Elite get financial reset and all the control their NPD sociopathy craves.

309705 ▶▶ Van Allen, replying to Hugh, 5, #31 of 218 🔗

If we are in a “dress rehearsal” the vaccine will work a dream. And next time a new virus comes along (is created?) compliance and zealotry for lockdowns and the rest will be even greater, since it will be proof that suppressing the virus until a vaccine comes along is a viable option. On the other hand, if we are in the midst of the controlled demolition of the current economic systems to usher in the Great Reset it will have no effect. Like lockdowns, social distancing, masks, track and trace….

309706 ▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to Van Allen, 2, #32 of 218 🔗

lose lose then? Sweet dreams.

309874 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Hugh, 1, #33 of 218 🔗

Just saw on a popular cruisers blog that royal Caribbean are thinking about refusing non vaxers access to their holidays. Well that’s me buggered. Mind you I was getting less and less keen when I heard about no buffet, masks everywhere, one way round the ship, social distancing everywhere, theatres with every other seat taken out of action. No karaoke, And only RC day trips allowed. In your room welcome pack is hand sanitizer and a few masks. Sounds lovely.

309884 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Hugh, #34 of 218 🔗

my gut feeling is 12 months from now we will roughly be in the same place. Masks, social distancing and non essential shops open

309700 Judy Watson, replying to Judy Watson, 6, #35 of 218 🔗

Good morning or afternoon or evening everyone. 3rd again – bah. now to read the posts

309702 ▶▶ Hugh, replying to Judy Watson, 1, #36 of 218 🔗

Oh I see . third thread – sorry!

I’m afraid it doesn’t get any better, can’t even remember the last time it did.

Look out, the edit button isn’t working again so don’t say anything batty 🙂

Edit, edit button now working, for me at least – d’oh!
2nd edit – back on the morning shifts next week so you’ll have a break from me at least. Loving having the edit button back!

309886 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Judy Watson, #37 of 218 🔗

good luck, but I’m afraid there’s some history homework coming up.

309704 NorthumbrianNomad, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 30, #38 of 218 🔗

I am increasingly despondent about 2021. As far as the UK and continental Europe are concerned, at least. The zealots are too numerous and too entrenched. I think we will see violence this year, and social breakdown, and unfortunately I think it will come from the zealot side rather than ours. I fear we will also see a dramatic loss of freedom of expression online (offline freedom of expression is already long dead). The brainwashing has been so effective, and the terror is so real that the sheer weight of numbers is going to cause landslides all over the place, with everything that makes life worth living buried.

I’ve already given up hope of ever again going to a cricket match or a theatre. It’s a strange feeling. I miss these things very much, but I can live without them. I’m not by nature a particularly nostalgic person, and my instinct is always to move on. So when I think of things I miss, I tend to just turn away. I can find a certain pleasure in renunciation, and soon renunciation may be the only freedom we have left, because it is inviolable.

I wish I’d lived a different life. I wish I’d been less fearful and self-conscious, and just taken the risks, tested life for what it had to offer and tested myself for what I had to offer life. But I didn’t. So that’s that.

I think most people must derive a purpose in life from their children, which I don’t have, so I don’t know how that works. Yet despite the obsession with not killing granny (does anyone care about grandpa?), the whole covid madness seems very self-centred. If, as people are now being taught, the only purpose of living is to not die, then there is no purpose.

And yet we live on, anyway, without purpose. There is a new way of living to be glimpsed in there somewhere. A life in the moment.

I think I’ll stay in exile. I think I can only now live here, where I’m anonymous and can hide behind a stereotype, and where I live pretty much in the moment anyway. Buddhist cremation one day, smoke and ash, gone. In the final words of Kenneth Williams, “What’s the bloody point?” No other animal but a human being, as far as we know, asks such a strange question. The point is just what happens. Everything else is a soap bubble that bursts and doesn’t make a sound.

309717 ▶▶ annie, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 23, #39 of 218 🔗

For animals, life has only one point: to preserve and perpetuate their own life. Eat, survive, fight off competition, reproduce, die. Selfish genes rule, ok.
Human beings used to be different. Classical writers celebrated the fact that Man stands on two legs so that he can turn his face heavenward, and wonder, and ask questions, and realise that there can be more to life than brute survival.
Then came Covid Man. Homo covidianus . The nadir of creation. Far lower than the animals, because animals do their best for their young, but they have turned and savaged theirs.
We are the last representatives of Homo sapiens . Can we coexist with Homo covidianus ? Can we drive him to extinction? Will intelligence win out over sub-brute stupidity? I believe so, but it will be a long, hard struggle.

PS. Edit button now working!

309723 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 11, #40 of 218 🔗

Children are a double-edged sword. I truly worry for their futures as they are just getting their lives started, whereas my husband and I have done what we wanted to do and traveled the world. In our mid-fifties it’s not like we’re giving up or don’t hope we can still do more and see more, but I’m more angry and upset for what my children might miss out on and the opportunities they may not have.

Try not to be too hard on yourself with respect to the life you didn’t live. You know the old saying about hindsight being 20/20. Let’s try to be hopeful that some semblance of our former lives will again be possible, at which time you can make some small or subtle changes. I think it’s natural for us all to take stock of where we are and have regrets about what we didn’t do, but let’s not assume there won’t be an opportunity to be more bold, more courageous and find new purposes.

309745 ▶▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 7, #41 of 218 🔗

Thank you, Lisa. I think I have quite a bit of fight left in me, but marshalling it isn’t easy. (Sorry for introducing the word “marshal” into that sentence, by the way.)

I detest the pat phrase “new normal” and everything it represents, but actually that’s partly because I don’t much like the concept of “normal” anyway, with its narrow implications of toeing social lines. It’s impossible to talk about how life will have to change WITHOUT someone resorting to the awful phrase. The world changes and we must change with it, but we don’t have to change to embody a “new normality” inflicted from above. In my own case, I hope I can indeed change to be “more bold, more courageous and find new purposes.”

309763 ▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 1, #42 of 218 🔗

Yup – alot of us round here are saying how much better off we here rather than the UK

309784 ▶▶ Ben, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 12, #43 of 218 🔗

This is why I’m so angry with the mainstream media, because it has cultivated this situation. Goebbels was guilty of crimes against humanity and so too are the BBC, Sky News et al.

309793 ▶▶ Barney McGrew, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 6, #44 of 218 🔗

I think people have been obedient until now because they assumed things were going back to normal. As a propaganda thing on the BBC said the other day “Why be the last to die just as the vaccine arrives?”. But as I think we can all tell (as predicted), that the vaccine isn’t going to be allowed to be the magic bullet. Might people now realise that there is no point in not risking dying, if this is what life is going to be from now on?

Anyway, I think the government knows this, and the “new strain” is the last roll of the Covid dice. I predict the “cyber attack” is the new tactic.

309807 ▶▶ Mars-in-Aries, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, #45 of 218 🔗

Look on the bright side. You now have time to read all those books on your bookshelf you had been always meaning to read, but somehow never never had the time to do.

309816 ▶▶ Suze Burtenshaw, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 2, #46 of 218 🔗

Sad and beautiful. I live life in my head now. Except this morning, there was a song thrush singing its heart out nearby, and that, being outside my head, was something still wonderful in this very unwonderful time. Small things.

309906 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, #47 of 218 🔗

My problem is for the life of me I cannot see how they are going to get out of this self inflicted government mess. They have the ardent truth believers who want to castigated the non followers and punish the young for er!… being young. They want social distancing and masks and hand gunk for all. They cry about the dangers of a virus that they have a 99% chance of surviving, but cannot wait to take an untested vaccine with unknown long term effects. So now you have your acolytes in place how the hell do you end this? If you carry on doing 300,000 test because of the FPR you will always have high numbers of positives. So do you stop testing? How do you get out of this without admitting it was all bullshit? We have wasted the best summer in years when we could have ended it. Now do you wait for this summer? What about when you end furlough and the extra 1.5 million find out they no longer have a job? I do see some kickback but we are shit at organising anything. As the wonderful Shelby Lynne once said. Stumbled into a church, staring at the rafters, how much more can I hurt, hey old man, what are your plans for me, where am I bound? I’m looking up, till the next thing brings me down.

309707 Liewe, replying to Liewe, 4, #48 of 218 🔗

Mutant strain is very, very worrying. From South African news yesterday:

  • A new variant of the coronavirus has been detected in South Africa, health minister Zweli Mkhize announced on Friday.
  • Called 501.V2, the new variant seems to spread faster than the original version.
  • While it is not clear whether it will make people sicker, it may have consequences for vaccines in South Africa.

This virus is damned clever! Who would have thunk?

The article assures the South African people that we needn’t panic as the Powers that Be has it all under control: We are shutting beaches during the summer holiday season. That will show the virus we mean business!

309746 ▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to Liewe, 8, #49 of 218 🔗

Viruses mutate all the time. All that’s different this time is that governments (SA following hot on the heels of the UK) are waking up to the fact that this is another way to scare the population.

The virus can’t have mutated past the vaccines yet, because hardly anyone has yet been vaccinated, let alone vaccinated then exposed to the virus. When it does mutate past the vaccines, the vaccines can be fairly rapidly adapted, as is done every year with flu.

Having said all of which, the usual disclaimer: the whole thing is a criminal global fuss of the self-important about nothing.

309780 ▶▶ Ben, replying to Liewe, 7, #50 of 218 🔗

It’s a mutant strain of fascism. That’s what I’m worried about

309896 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Liewe, #51 of 218 🔗

correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that viruses mutate to spread faster yet become less lethal.

309708 chaos, replying to chaos, 11, #52 of 218 🔗

Covid is a trojan horse for The Great Reset

But The Great Reset is the trojan horse for another great depression.

Most people buy into covid and/or government cockups. Some see the Great Reset. Eglomaniac preening narcissistic useful idiots such as Boris and Wanksock have likely been decieved that this Great Reset will be a green Shangrila with windmills and flying electric cabs. That this will be their fantastic legacy for which history and the plebs will love them.

Yet the Great Reset is the ‘carousel in Logan’s Run’. And future vaccines the life clock. There is no pandemic. There is no great reset. Just a great depression.

309714 ▶▶ Hugh, replying to chaos, 6, #53 of 218 🔗

A great depression? (And presumably accompanied by a great deal of depression). This is seriously worrying. Wasn’t there a war after the last great depression? And I’m assuming biological warfare will be a part of future wars.

I think we might just get Nuremberg mark II, one way or the other.

309724 ▶▶▶ annie, replying to Hugh, 6, #54 of 218 🔗

Prepare to testify. Hoard every bit of evidence. The mighty mass of it will crush them to powder.

309739 ▶▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to annie, 7, #55 of 218 🔗

Heard another story at work of someone suffering pain after delayed treatment because of the current restrictions – on top of the person who suffered sleepless nights from toothache because he had to wait to see a dentist earlier this year because of restrictions. If those face coverings can cause dental problems as I understand, no way I want to risk that with the horror stories going around.

309719 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to chaos, 13, #56 of 218 🔗

There has been quite a bit of discussion locally about the changes that will be imposed on us over the next few years with petrol/diesel cars going, gas/oil boilers going. Some see this as a rosy green future but my argument has been that this cannot be done in an equitable way, many people will be unable to have an electric car and thus our current freedom to travel as we wish will be severely curtailed. The headlong rush to heat pumps will lead to many unable to adequately heat their homes and need to move to very small accommodation.
It is hard not to see what is happening at the moment as a prelude to forcing these these changes on us that will, in my view, drastically reduce our quality of life. But then I value liberty and freedom of movement above the need for safety and protection, a set of values which does not seem to be shared by many in the country.

309796 ▶▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #57 of 218 🔗

In a smart city your small apt. will be heated for you and you won’t need a car, just be sure to keep your social credit score up.

309771 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to chaos, 3, #58 of 218 🔗

Depression has to follow the Everything Bubble of the last 30 years. The sovereign debt bubble and other leverage.

Covid and the rest is the wrapper. Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.

309786 ▶▶▶ annie, replying to mhcp, 2, #59 of 218 🔗

The gods have done a thorough job this time.

309901 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to chaos, #60 of 218 🔗

I had the feeling that the stock market crash in March-one ultimately stopped by circuit breakers- was unrelated to covid and more to do with the collapse in the price of oil. Since then covid has been the distraction, but the stock market crash has lead to the Great Reset. Though the Chinese have other ideas.

309711 SilentP, replying to SilentP, 9, #61 of 218 🔗

Blanket media coverage on the imminent announcement of Lockdown 3 / Tier 4 in response to the supposed fast spreading mutant strain.

The editorial today states that the figures being used to justify this are not supported by the figures from ZOE.

How can the discrepancy be explained? Have we uncovered a new mutant way of misleading us with the statistics?

309721 ▶▶ annie, replying to SilentP, 5, #62 of 218 🔗

No need for a justification. Lockdown is the natural state of the Covvizombie.
Wales is to be locked down, locked up, gagged, kicked in the teeth, scourged and excoriated from 28 December onwards. Already decreed by our shabby, wrinkled little ersatz Stalin. Dungford is p….. himself with glee at the thought.

309817 ▶▶▶ Borisbullshit, replying to annie, 1, #63 of 218 🔗

You are right about the shabby…..what an uninspiring little scrooge he is. I wonder how long he would last alone in a room with one of many Welsh people.

309728 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to SilentP, 8, #64 of 218 🔗

We feel your pain. Toronto’s lockdown was supposed to end on Monday but has been indefinitely extended, while other areas in Ontario are coming under tighter restrictions. There’s talk of the schools extending the winter break. But most ominous is an op ed in one of our national newspapers this week from a Canadian who was in Melbourne during their lockdown and who thinks it’s a great idea. Our feckless premier can’t understand why cases keep rising despite the lockdowns and all the other stupid measures, so of course he’s priming us for a Melbourne-style police state after the holidays. Now that we’ve fled Toronto our lives won’t change, but I’m sickened by what’s happening. No talk here yet of mutant strains, but that’s all the hysterics will need to demand more “safety” measures.

309879 ▶▶▶ Girl down Under, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, #65 of 218 🔗

Hi Lisa, oh no, you don’t want that. Amazing how many in Victoria think that man did a wonderful job, one referred to him as an ‘illustrious’ leader!!! Here where I am, the whole of the northern beaches of Sydney at 5.00 has been placed into lockdown. All pubs, clubs, cafes closed, restaurants open for takeaway only. 4 reasons to go out, exercise, essential shopping, medical, or compassionate grounds. We are not allowed to leave local government area and no one can come in. No mandatory masks, but heavily requested. I went to my local shopping centre and must have been 1 of 5 not wearing masks. And boy did I get some looks. The hysteria, as you say has ramped up again. We have, wait for it, 24 people in hospital Australia wide NOT in intensive care. 3 in NSW, 11 in the Northern Territory, 10 in Queensland. We have had 31 positive test results in NSW. It is pathetic how docile some people are.

309908 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to SilentP, #66 of 218 🔗

if only. People will happily put up with lockdown if it was like November. What is being slipped through today-effectively suspension of free movement is the worry.
I would imagine Brighton is very busy today. Go Christmas shopping and stop off somewhere for lunch.

309713 nickbowes, replying to nickbowes, 1, #67 of 218 🔗

I recommend the latest Richard D Hall video`s on all this @ http://www.richplanet.net
he goes over much old ground but was flabbergasted to listen (show 3) that there are some who believe that there has been a global coup this year inc obviously the fake US Election but our dear old Queen has actually been legally disposed under the cover of Brexit legislation…

309779 ▶▶ Biker, replying to nickbowes, 8, #68 of 218 🔗

It’s true. Parliament has declared itself Sovereign, the Queen no longer wears the Crown and we live a in a dictatorship run by some people we don’t know. The people in charge are all bought with sex, drugs and money, whatever is their vice. It is the duty of all of us to stand up for our rights and fight back by not wearing a mask, refusing to do anything that is called a law that has been passed since the day Parliament declared itself sovereign. All the cops, and the courts, the media and the NHS and everyone connected with the state are now working for the enemies of the British people. We have been taken over without any problem. I’m afraid when it’s all been said and done us the people will have no choice but execute those who’ve done this to us, ether by the courts of by Guerrilla warfare. This is a fight for our lives. Personally i feel we’ve no chance and we’re all fucked. How can we possibly fight them? Most of the dumb fucks that work for the state don’t know what is going on. To me it feels like what it must have felt like if you were one of the handful of French Resistance fighters after the Nazi’s rolled into town. Hardly anyone is a Lockdown Skeptic and most people will cheer when us skeptics are send to the gas chambers. Still, there’s a new episode of the Gran Tour to watch

309792 ▶▶▶ Greg, replying to Biker, #69 of 218 🔗

True. Even the “sceptics” still talk about “cases”. No one can grasp the whole thing is false positives, CT>40, contamination in labs.

These fckers in gov know it. The “leaders” are not stupid, The other MPs are all toeing the party line while or are thick as fck.

It’s game over people. People like us have been pilloried as conspiracy theorist since March but have been proved correct.

Want to see what coming down in Q1 21. Luckily Canadian PM leaked it a few months ago and so far the whole thing has planned out exactly as reported.


“ Q1–Q2 2021.– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.

– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.”

309820 ▶▶▶ Borisbullshit, replying to Biker, 3, #70 of 218 🔗

Sadly I have to agree there….we share a country or even a world with covid zombies who would support any measures….look at the numbers of people who wear masks in places where they are not mandatory. God its hard not to hate those people.

309824 ▶▶▶ Thomas_E, replying to Biker, 2, #71 of 218 🔗

Yep,agreed..There is no chance for us it’s just a matter of time before we get publicly harassed, attacked and finally arrested and dissaperd. I saw somebody on Twitter suggesting organising a vigilante squad that will hunt down no makers on public transport in London..Over 10000 likes and thousands of retwitts..Most people think that’s a great idea..Great let them come,see what happens when they try to confront a combat veteran like myself.I will get ugly!

309872 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Thomas_E, #72 of 218 🔗

Those sorts of people are cowards.

309715 Seansaighdeoir, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 32, #73 of 218 🔗

Disappointing to see LS playing into the narrative about ‘cases’. Cases are meaningless derived from a positive PCR test which we all know is a fundamentally flawed procedure.

Thats why I don’t follow the Tim Spector angle as this also propagates this narrative. An asymptomatic cases like this ‘new deadly strain’ I’m simply gonna call BS on. This is all prepping for further closures and harsher measures while blaming people for actually having fun and doing normal human things at Christmas.

The fact that they are demonising and prohibiting normal human interactions should never be overlooked or forgotten. Especially while they don’t follow the rules themselves. I hope I live to see the day when these people answer for their crimes.

309716 ▶▶ anon, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 7, #74 of 218 🔗

well said

309720 ▶▶ annie, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 16, #75 of 218 🔗

I live in that hope. Remember Nuremberg. Remember how Hitler ended.
Endure, love life, seek out the good things, fight the evil, disbelieve the lies, NEVER GIVE IN.

309844 ▶▶▶ Thomas_E, replying to annie, 1, #76 of 218 🔗

Remember the Jews saying this will blow over,this can’t possibly get worse,but we are also German..Look how great it turned out for them. The only hope we have,is false hope!

309722 Laurence, replying to Laurence, 12, #77 of 218 🔗

What is wrong with the King of Sweden ?

They’re one of the few countries in Europe, maybe the only country, that haven’t completely screwed up the lives of their people, and still have had fewer deaths this year than 2017 and 2018 (after adjusting for the last few days of December and the growth and ageing of the population). 280 people under 60 have died after a positive test within 28 days, many probably not even from COVID. Yet he says their Covid reaction has failed.

The plebs can’t be allowed to go free. Go for it, King Gustav !

At least your subjects aren’t so stupid and overwhelmingly still support the wonderful Anders Tegnell.

309825 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Laurence, 1, #78 of 218 🔗

Generations of inbreeding tends to inhibit these ‘royal’ types.

309923 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Laurence, #79 of 218 🔗

Nice chat with WEF……..

309727 CivilianNotCovidian, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 58, #80 of 218 🔗

MY FRIENDS, I love you all! THANK YOU – Toby, Will, contributors and commentators – for being a source of comfort, entertainment and sanity during this unbelievably challenging year. Without you I would have lost my mind. I’m going off line for two weeks, for my annual digital detox and total media black out. I highly recommend it to restore normal human functioning! But before I go, I wanted to thank you and to leave you with some thoughts to hold onto.

The entire world is under cyber attack. Not our computers… but our minds. We have been hacked. It doesn’t matter who or what did it, it matters that we stay aware of it. Before we look for explanatory theories or urgent solutions we HAVE to understand that the majority of human brains have been hacked. This – as terrifying as it is – includes most of our “leaders”. This is no longer about politics – the normal political spectrum has been upended and distorted – it is about the simple fact that HUMANITY HAS BEEN HACKED. Human rights, the rule of law, civilisation itself… they are fading away in front of our eyes. This is why no one is actively doing anything to stop teachers abusing children, police brutality, elder abuse, general bullying and shaming. There are very few human brains that have escaped the attack. Even those that have resisted for so long are starting to weaken, starting to give up and conform because it’s just too hard to keep fighting. But we MUST STAY STRONG.

The real VIRUS, like any other computer virus, is the one that has hacked the software of our human brains. Well, if that is true… then WE are the ANTIVIRUS. We can’t give up. No matter how hard it gets, EVERY act of defiance or act of humanity is a strike back against this seemingly unstoppable force. We HAVE to be stronger than this psychological virus that has infected so many. Whatever it takes STAY HUMAN. Hug, smile, help, sing. And on Christmas Day, wherever you are, whether you are alone (including being the only uninfected one in the room) or with a fellow HUMAN BEING, take a moment to think of all those poor infected souls. Imagine them sitting around a table with masks on (pulling them down briefly as they insert a mouthful of food, but quickly replacing the mask to cover their mouths as they chew). Think of them shivering with cold as they sit beneath wide open windows, and sanitising their hands and donning gloves before opening presents. Think of them denying themselves any human contact. And do not feel angry with them. Have some compassion. Pity them. They are very, very unwell. If we reject them and blame them… we have succumb to the antihuman virus ourselves. Raise a glass to them and pray for their recovery.

Get some rest. Nourish your bodies and souls. Turn off all screens. Get out into nature. Eat. Sleep. Wake up in January refreshed and battle ready. Because it’s not going to get easier any time soon. The war has hardly begun. Their weapons are fear and inhumanity. Our weapons are love and human resilience. We always win.


309731 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 11, #81 of 218 🔗

Have a wonderful break and thanks for the inspiring words! Eating well and being out in nature as often as possible has really helped me as well. We’ll “see” you in January!

309734 ▶▶ annie, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 10, #82 of 218 🔗

Great stuff! Yes, I now feel like a proper Antivirus. Or rather, my brain has all the latest antivirus software and it’s updated minute by minute.
And I’ll never never never give in. ever. ever ever.
See you again soon, have a good break.

309738 ▶▶ Llamasaurus Rex, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 3, #83 of 218 🔗

Thanks CNC. Have a great break, and see you the other side.

309753 ▶▶ Country Mumkin, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 3, #84 of 218 🔗

Brilliant and beautiful. Agree very much with this. Have a good break.
See you in January.

309730 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 24, #85 of 218 🔗

The anger has left me

I no longer try to educate or inform people. It does not work. At the end of the day who am I to try and save people from their own folly

The people demand to be tortured in the hope it will save them. The pig dictator gives them what they want

When the latest round of torture fails the people demand further torture

I now stand on the sidelines with a priti smirk

309733 ▶▶ annie, replying to Cecil B, 7, #86 of 218 🔗

I think that’s wise. Let’s live and let sadlidie.

309736 Scotty87, replying to Scotty87, 14, #87 of 218 🔗

Lockdown till vaccine arrives, vaccine is rolled out, new mutant strain emerges, new vaccine needed, lockdown till vaccine arrives (repeat ad nauseam).

This is the life they want for us.

309744 ▶▶ Hugh, replying to Scotty87, 5, #88 of 218 🔗

until the money runs out presumably, surely this is just not viable. Any economists care to elaborate?

309805 ▶▶▶ Nick Rose, replying to Hugh, 3, #89 of 218 🔗

Not a chance. If we spend in 2021 like we did in 2020, there will be no NHS, no education system, no welfare state and no pensions in 2022. No shit.

309806 ▶▶▶▶ Nick Rose, replying to Nick Rose, 1, #90 of 218 🔗

Not funded by the State, anyway

309777 ▶▶ Sylvia Priest, replying to Scotty87, 1, #91 of 218 🔗

No-one seem To have mentioned nurse who passed out “in pain” after getting vaccine in USA on You Tube . How long does it take before you pass out with “vaccine” poison ? Do wé have update on those who have had job ?

309778 ▶▶▶ Sylvia Priest, replying to Sylvia Priest, #92 of 218 🔗


309741 mattghg, 4, #93 of 218 🔗

Awful news coming out of Sweden and Austria

309743 Fingerache Philip., replying to Fingerache Philip., 8, #94 of 218 🔗


309750 ▶▶ Danny, replying to Fingerache Philip., 21, #95 of 218 🔗

Didn’t you know? Everyone in the UK can work from their laptop whilst the kids play in the large garden before the whole family sits down to some homemade Rye bread for lunch and watches a Netflix documentary about class divide.
So selfish of you. Honestly.

309755 ▶▶▶ Paulus, replying to Danny, 4, #96 of 218 🔗

Don’t forget we all gather round the Fire Pit and have more than one dinning table in our mansions!

309785 ▶▶▶▶ annie, replying to Paulus, #97 of 218 🔗

The outdoor fire pit. Last used in the Mesolithic.

309797 ▶▶▶▶▶ Chris John, replying to annie, 2, #98 of 218 🔗

But an awesome way to cook meat! Which only team men can do, the zombie bedwetters ( haven’t used that in a while!) use an app on the phone to magic the food to their homes, already cooked.
The dumbing down of civilisation ,when people can’t make a fire or protect their family units from predators and the like

309756 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Danny, 5, #99 of 218 🔗

The BID idiots in our town have gone into partnership with a click and deliver scheme where some bloke on a bike delivers goods to customers. Quite how that works with a coffee or a tea and a toasted sandwich is beyond me. But they only seem to care about those independents who are on-side with the BID terror (i.e. the ones who run their businesses as hobbies and are not troubled with being closed for 4 odd months).

309767 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip., replying to Danny, 1, #100 of 218 🔗

I do apologise.
Also: When HS2 is finally finished, these essential workers on their once a year journey into London will be able to have the whole train to themselves.

309774 ▶▶▶▶ mjr, replying to Fingerache Philip., 4, #101 of 218 🔗

and HS2 is a farce. The business case that was used was based on the savings made in unproductive time for the 30 minute reduction in journey time from Manchester to London . Even before lockdown and home working, this was no longer relevant as everyone worked on laptops on the train anyway. The only real benefit of HS2 was increased capacity but this could be provided in far cheaper ways

309788 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Danny, 2, #102 of 218 🔗

There won’t be a better description of the Lockdown Fanatic than this

309831 ▶▶▶ Alethea, replying to Danny, #103 of 218 🔗

Not rye bread, banana bread. Didn’t you get the memo?

309814 ▶▶ Schrodinger, replying to Fingerache Philip., 2, #104 of 218 🔗

Note that Wealthy professionals may have preexisting immunity.

309747 annie, replying to annie, 12, #105 of 218 🔗

A bit of encouragement from Lord Byron.

Yet, Freedom ! yet thy banner, torn, but flying,
Streams like the thunder-storm AGAINST the wind;
Thy trumpet-voice, though broken now and dying,
The loudest still the tempest leaves behind;
Thy tree hath lost its blossoms, and the rind,
Chopped by the axe, looks rough and little worth,
But the sap lasts,—and still the seed we find
Sown deep, even in the bosom of the North;
So shall a better spring less bitter fruit bring forth.

Childe. Harold’s Pilgrimage , canto 4, stanza 98.

309748 ▶▶ annie, replying to annie, 7, #106 of 218 🔗

PS. He knew about zombies too:

…men grow pale
Lest their own judgments should become too bright,
And their free thoughts be crimes, and earth have too much light.

And thus they plod in sluggish misery,
Rotting from sire to son, and age to age,
Proud of their trampled nature, and so die,
Bequeathing their hereditary rage
To the new race of inborn slaves, who wage
War for their chains, and rather than be free,
Bleed gladiator-like, and still engage
Within the same arena where they see
Their fellows fall before, like leaves of the same tree.

309783 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to annie, 2, #107 of 218 🔗

Thank you for this Annie. A bit of cultural balm to expunge the anger I feel after just reading the cretinous newspaper headlines.

309752 chaos, replying to chaos, 3, #108 of 218 🔗

Thousands of visitors visit this site.. and we apparently have a government that rules by pleb poll results.. so why not get on YouGov and give them the right answers:

Presuming of course that the Chinese aren’t doing an art of war on YouGov. I mean, if I were them.. I’d be on there. War without weapons. A tishoo a tishoo only Chinese people fell down. Actors.

309760 ▶▶ mjr, replying to chaos, 8, #109 of 218 🔗

because yougov is a con. it is either instant votes which are not validated which means that 77th or others can use bots to provide the correct results, or proper validated polls where (as already identified by others on this site) anyone with incorrect views is weeded out and not invited to participate.
But it works – the sheep believe the polls .

And good to see comment editing is working again !!

309850 ▶▶ Jonathan Palmer, replying to chaos, 1, #110 of 218 🔗

Opinion polls are a means of influencing public opinion not measuring it.
The questions are loaded and even then do you think it’s beyond this government to make the results up.
It is so clear now that the government have an agenda and only mass civil disobedience will stop them.
Parliament,The press and the courts are all closed to us.
This continued nightmare of on/off lockdowns will only end when enough people refuse to comply.
I have a friend who works with the police with CCTV.They have new cameras which are just checking mask compliance.This is what we are up against.

309754 davews, replying to davews, 7, #111 of 218 🔗

Felt really low last night and not much better this morning. BBC going on about the ‘new strain’, thought we might have some facts here but guess there are none. Whatever cases in my town do seem to be shooting up and yesterday with 26k positive tests on the dashboard something very suspicious is going on. Or it could just be a new common cold which is doing the rounds, seems normal for this time of year.

309765 ▶▶ mjr, replying to davews, 3, #112 of 218 🔗

not positive tests……… “tests which have shown a positive result”. more wrong results because of more testing . And i have had a stinker of a cold the last couple of days. I should really have gone and got my test which would show i am dying of covid

309801 ▶▶▶ Chris John, replying to mjr, #113 of 218 🔗

With COVID or of COVID that is the question

309758 TC, replying to TC, 1, #114 of 218 🔗

It’s probably been already done but could someone please guide me to where I can find reliable information as to how many people in the UK have probably had the virus which has been doing the rounds now for about a year or so I think?
I suspect I may have had it last October (2019) when I was diagnosed with “a bit of pneumonia” although innoculated against pneumonia (still,as we know vaccines aren’t necessarily reliable).

309791 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to TC, 1, #115 of 218 🔗

The figures are all very odd, the NHS dashboard says that nearly 2 million people have tested +ve for Sars-Cov2, it also says that nearly 47 million tests have been carried out. The ONS and others do try and estimate the total number who have had Covid but this varies from around 2 million to 19 million. You do feel that in the end we will run out of victims but having got their claws in this deep I cannot see Uberfuhrer Johnson and his miserable Junta giving up this level of totalitarian control, Totalitarianism is like a drug and they are now well and truly hooked on it and we all suffer.

309826 ▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #116 of 218 🔗

You have to include the asymptomatic “sufferers” before testing was ramped up. They become immune according to the logic of R.

So very likely we’ve all had it about 5 times now.

309762 chaos, replying to chaos, 7, #117 of 218 🔗

I’ve just realised why Bojo’s hair looks messier than usual. He’s going bald. And he’s doing that age old trick of spreading it around.

309770 ▶▶ Fingerache Philip., replying to chaos, 1, #118 of 218 🔗

Or perhaps he’s Gary Glitter in disguise.

309782 ▶▶ annie, replying to chaos, #119 of 218 🔗

He’s certainly spreading something around. Not sure it’s hair.

309803 ▶▶▶ Chris John, replying to annie, 1, #120 of 218 🔗

His seed. There are some women out there who dodged a bullet by spitting his seed instead

309794 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to chaos, #121 of 218 🔗

Been spreading it around for a long time

309772 Biker, 6, #122 of 218 🔗

How often are these weirdo’s up in court? And if you’re some kind of man who thinks he’s a lady then you’re not doing a very good job if people can’t tell you apart. Here’s my rule if you want someone to use a specific pronoun then you’re cunt. Fuck you you absolute midden. Why the fuck should i have to do anything these fucking weirdo’s want? Here’s the deal i can think of anyone any fucking way i choose and they can just fucking lump it. They are free to think anyway about me. See how that works there? We’re all free to say what the hell we want. It seems to me weirdo’s who think they’re some mystical gender are not nice people and seem obsessed in forcing others to bend to their way of thinking. Makes me wonder what some fucked up gender wanker is in court for anyway, probably a nonce.

309776 Ben, 13, #123 of 218 🔗

If Government Ministers and MPs’ salaries were negatively affected by lockdowns – there would be no lockdowns

309787 TJS123, replying to TJS123, 12, #125 of 218 🔗

All credit to the marvellous local farm shop (and they sell lots of other lovely stuff too!) Darts Farm in Topsham near Exeter. They held an outdoor carol service with a band and are getting an absolute pasting from nasty, joyless commentators who werent even there. Many threatening never to shop there again. The same old cliches about grannies, ventilators and spikes. Seek ’em out on Facebook and maybe give them some positive, supportive comments.

309789 ▶▶ IanE, replying to TJS123, 2, #126 of 218 🔗

Great place – I always have a browse when I am in the region! And I grew up in Topsham (lucky me!), so always enjoy hearing about the area.

309822 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to TJS123, 1, #127 of 218 🔗

Great fish and chips too. Although the chippy in Polsloe, just at the bridge, beats it.

309832 ▶▶ Cbird, replying to TJS123, #128 of 218 🔗

Good for them. Would have gone if I’d known

309894 ▶▶ tonyspurs, replying to TJS123, #129 of 218 🔗

I just posted a positive comment on there but f**k me some of the comments on there shows how hysterically moronic the general public are

309795 Now More Than Ever, replying to Now More Than Ever, 12, #130 of 218 🔗

I had a realisation of how far we have to go in an online work meeting with about seven colleagues this week when some of my truer feelings came out. I said to them “Are you really happy about this carrying on indefinitely?” To which the general response was “well, it’s only going to be a few more months, isn’t it?” I went a bit further and said: “Does it not bother you how many of our basic freedoms we’ve had to give up?” They looked at me like I was an alien. None of them answered. The question was just left hanging in the air.

309845 ▶▶ davews, replying to Now More Than Ever, 4, #131 of 218 🔗

And talking to friends the other day (at our carol service recording) one said ‘well we have been doing it for the last four months’. I reminded him that it was actually nine months…

309798 p02099003, 7, #132 of 218 🔗

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55372743 the British Propaganda Corporation is at it again. In previous years hospitals have been running at 97% capacity. What I really don’t understand is why they expect hospitals to run at 85% capacity, what is the spare 15% for but to allow for peaks in admissions? Therefore there’s already built in to the system spare capacity, which is used up every year to different degrees. If manufacturing were run in the same way you would be concerned at only 85% productivity and be looking to either increasing productivity or reducing costs.
I really despair at the complete lack of any critical evaluation by the Royal College of Emergency Medicine, the Royal College of Nursing, and the Royal college of GPs.
This is from the Nursing Times, it is paywalled but the first few lines encapsulate the sentiment of the whole piece https ://www.nursingtimes.net/news/coronavirus/government-must-be-clearer-on-risks-of-christmas-mixing-warns-rcn-18-12-2020/

I have around 11 weeks before I retire as a registered nurse practitioner and I can’t say that I’ll be sorry, had you asked me 12 months ago you’d have got a different answer.

309799 Will, 3, #133 of 218 🔗

On the ONS data, FreeCumbria reported yesterday that the ONS have failed, for the second week running, to release the findings of their survey which has been one of the more reliable indicators of the direction in which infection rates are moving, even if it exaggerates the numbers by a considerable factor. I suspect they haven’t released the data because it doesn’t fit the model which is churning out the 567300 figure. Of pernicious note is that everyones’ favourite C U Next Tuesday is back doing his rounds of the Reich ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment’s studios….

309800 Cbird, replying to Cbird, #134 of 218 🔗

Posted yesterday – a longish watch but well worth it. Particularly the ethical behavioural scientist at the start who sets out just how the vile, unprincipled government and its SAGE advisers go about their filthy, manipulative work. Very interesting analysis of their methods and strategy – which is being demonstrating in these latest manipulations. And of course the redoubtable Mike Yeadon. From Recovery/Unlocked tv. Can be viewed without logging in to Facebook.


309834 ▶▶ Cbird, replying to Cbird, 3, #135 of 218 🔗

Apparently one of the tactics is to deny they’re going to do something, just to introduce the idea, followed by “sorry but we had to…”. Sick.

309804 James Leary #KBF, replying to James Leary #KBF, 5, #136 of 218 🔗


“ On Friday, Boris Johnson was asked whether England would follow Northern Ireland, which is introducing a six-week lockdown from Boxing Day.
He said: “We’re hoping very much that we will be able to avoid anything like that. But the reality is that the rates of infection have increased very much in the last few weeks.”

Have they Boris? Infections of WHAT, exactly?

309828 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to James Leary #KBF, 2, #137 of 218 🔗

They have detected possible Infections of scepticism and dissention and I believe this Government are now hooked on the drug of totalitarianism and will do all they can to cling on to this power that they have grabbed.

309835 ▶▶ annie, replying to James Leary #KBF, #138 of 218 🔗


309836 ▶▶ Cbird, replying to James Leary #KBF, #139 of 218 🔗

As I said…

309808 AN other lockdown sceptic, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 2, #140 of 218 🔗

Hyperinflation will wake a few sleepy zealots up. Lets hope it comes sooner rather than later. If you’re going through hell, then go through quickly.

309837 ▶▶ annie, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 1, #141 of 218 🔗

No bloody thanks. Look what followed hyperinflation in Germany.

309858 ▶▶▶ IanE, replying to annie, 2, #142 of 218 🔗

The difference being that this time we got the nazis BEFORE the hyper-inflation!

309809 Les Tricoteuses, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 6, #143 of 218 🔗

I see many posts of the type
“It makes no sense”
“The money will run out”
“Overwhelming evidence”
“This govt”
Etc etc
The problem is we’re using the wrong frame of reference to try and understand events. There has been a paradigm shift in governments across the world. Everything would make perfect sense if you use the right frame. We are fighting with the eyes of the blind.

309841 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 2, #144 of 218 🔗

For me the paradigm shift is that governments have realised they can get away with almost anything now, using the magic instrument of fear of death.

309863 ▶▶▶ Dan Clarke, replying to Julian, 1, #145 of 218 🔗

What all dictators do

309914 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Les Tricoteuses, #146 of 218 🔗

Great post!

309810 Barney McGrew, replying to Barney McGrew, 5, #147 of 218 🔗

I was listening to a podcast about the economy last night, and how the current system has reached the limits of expansion of its bubble and literally cannot be sustained any longer. It had a good run over eighty years, with several ‘boosters’ along the way to keep it expanding, but the end has been reached. There simply is no way to keep it growing and also honour the accumulated debts (my simpleton’s interpretation). So it was either going to be a total crash, or a ‘controlled reset’.

If so, what did we expect? The old system could not continue. I find it pretty convincing that some way had to be found to deal with it. Everyone who thought they had a guaranteed, comfortable retirement and wealth to pass on to their kids should probably be beginning to realise that it will not happen. By hook or by crook, those in debt will be released from most of those debts, and those with savings will be ‘relieved’ of most of those savings.

I could just about cope with that – and the use of the “pandemic” as the tactic to do it. What worries me more is that ideologically-motivated people are sensing an opportunity to go full fascist on the back of it, and people like our PM are being persuaded by ‘green’ zealots (and girlfriends) that this is a good idea.

309860 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Barney McGrew, #148 of 218 🔗

I’m not convinced by that. Is it the way to deal with debt by putting more companies and individuals into debt and increasing government debt? There is evidence however that lockdowns increase most people’s savings. So it could be looked at as a compuslory savings scheme but a very odd one – and unlikely to match the additional £400 billion of government debt.

309924 ▶▶▶ Barney McGrew, replying to OKUK, #149 of 218 🔗

My take on that is that it assumes that the old economy is still operating, whereas I think that the current government spending splurge isn’t debt accumulation, but simple printing of tokens that will later be found to be worthless. So the ‘debts’ we’re currently incurring aren’t real. The idea is to genuinely reset the economy so that the old debts and savings are gone.

309811 theanalyst, replying to theanalyst, 2, #150 of 218 🔗

Interesting write up on Austria today.

Austria did “Mass Test” 2 million people over the last couple of weeks. What were the results? Same results as achieved by the mass testing of UK students and Liverpool etc. All regions with less than 0.55% positives. Covid has practically vanished from among the population in Austria.


So ignoring the results of the first mass testing exercise, Austria now plans more mass testing in January, but after their next lockdown. This time there appears to be an incentive for people to get tested…..

“VIENNA (Reuters) -Austria will go into its third coronavirus lockdown after Christmas and lift it earlier for people who get tested, the government said on Friday, just 11 days after its second lockdown ended.”


When will this nonsense end?

309812 ▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to theanalyst, 1, #151 of 218 🔗


309819 ▶▶▶ theanalyst, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 1, #152 of 218 🔗

I edited the final question at the last minute – previously it read “Will this nonsense ever end?” “No” is a good response to that question.

309856 ▶▶ Thomas_E, replying to theanalyst, 2, #153 of 218 🔗

Never..they are just getting started Everything up to know was to condition the people for the complete totalitarian state that will be everywhere.

309867 ▶▶ swedenborg, replying to theanalyst, 1, #154 of 218 🔗

Reading the article is almost comical in the complexity of the system. Maybe it shouldn’t be a surprise as they seem to be in the best bureaucratic traditions of the Austrian Hungarian Empire. You enter the State Opera in Vienna and show your negative LFT. Which one should it be? The one you bought on the secret market the same day, a test 72 hours ago, seven days ago? We all know that the minute after you have taken a negative LFT, you can be exposed again and wait for the 7-10 incubation time. But even worse, according to the morons in charge, you can become a dangerous asymptomatic spreader for weeks. Beside that LFT can have up to 30% false negative result.

309905 ▶▶ RickH, replying to theanalyst, #155 of 218 🔗

All regions with less than 0.55% positives.”

… and that is just ‘positives’ = junk data.

So, I wonder what the real infection rate is?

309813 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 7, #156 of 218 🔗

Polls = Policy = Hysteria = MSM

Policy = Hysteria = MSM = Polls

Hysteria = MSM = Polls = Policy

MSM = Polls = Policy = Hysteria

Can be read left to right, right to left, in columns top to bottom or bottom to top

Whatever way you read it you get the same result

My favourites are diagonally top left to bottom right Polls=Hysteria=Polls= Hysteria

Or, bottom left to top right MSM=MSM=MSM=MSM

309842 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Cecil B, #157 of 218 🔗

A lot of truth in what you say but polls are manipulated and someone is spinning the wheel.

309883 ▶▶ CGL, replying to Cecil B, #158 of 218 🔗

Brilliant Cecil!

309897 ▶▶ mjr, replying to Cecil B, #159 of 218 🔗

you missed one
Policy > Propaganda > MSM > Hysteria > Rigged Polls > Policy

309815 Will, replying to Will, 3, #160 of 218 🔗

On Sweden, I cannot help the feeling that their seasonal blip is actually further evidence of the completely destructive waste of time that is lockdown. Sweden’s voluntary measures have been so “effective” that even they have suppressed the virus to the extent that they have seen a substantial seasonal recurrence.

309838 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Will, #161 of 218 🔗

The latest news from there is deeply depressing and disturbing, but at least they’ve saved me a dilemma. We were thinking of going to spend some time there next year to escape the worst of this madness but I doubt it’s worth the upheaval now.

309848 ▶▶ swedenborg, replying to Will, 5, #162 of 218 🔗

This seasonal upsurge just reveals everything. SD, lockdowns, endless modifications are pure theatre. You have either cheap theatre as in Sweden, expensive theatre aa in UK or absurd theatre as in Austria as reported today.

309912 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Will, #163 of 218 🔗

Wonder if WEF had a word with the main royal

309818 Francesca, replying to Francesca, #164 of 218 🔗

Just out of house arrest/isolation. 1 household member with positive test result. Other 2 members of household completely healthy. Either false positive,not very contagious or our immunity working just fine!

309900 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Francesca, #165 of 218 🔗

Recent research (sorry – can’t put my finger on the reference) shows that even within-household transmission is 50% or lower. So the ‘highly infectious’ label is another bit of bollxspeak.

309823 arfurmo, replying to arfurmo, #166 of 218 🔗

Just hoping that the action taken to stop the mutation isn’t outdoor muzzling.

309829 ▶▶ Barney McGrew, replying to arfurmo, #167 of 218 🔗

Hadn’t thought of that. Of course it will.

309847 ▶▶ Dan Clarke, replying to arfurmo, #168 of 218 🔗

Doesn’t bear thinking about

309827 AngloWelshDragon, replying to AngloWelshDragon, #169 of 218 🔗

What has become of Professor Carl Heneghan?

309833 ▶▶ Julian, replying to AngloWelshDragon, #170 of 218 🔗

What makes you think something has become of him?

309846 ▶▶▶ AngloWelshDragon, replying to Julian, #171 of 218 🔗

He hasn’t written anything or been in the news for over a month. I mentioned him on Spectator Coffee House a couple of days ago and was told he’d fallen by the wayside but given no explanation. Was wondering if anyone here knew anything.

309852 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to AngloWelshDragon, #172 of 218 🔗

He has tweeted fairly recently

Maybe he has lost heart a bit

He doesn’t seem the type to “fall by the wayside”

Being in the news requires access – for an inconvenient sceptic, that is limited

309861 ▶▶▶▶ Dan Clarke, replying to AngloWelshDragon, #173 of 218 🔗

Still on twitter

309885 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jonathan Palmer, replying to Dan Clarke, 2, #174 of 218 🔗

It doesn’t matter where he is,no one in Government is listening.As Mike Yeadon has pointed it out;it’s inconceivable that Whitty and Vallance don’t know the truth.
The regime are using a dodgy test to falsely imprison the whole country.As pointed out in the update they will rebrand lockdown 3 as Tier 4.This will be in concert with many other European countries and American states.
It beggars belief that anyone who is paying attention cannot see what this is.This is not business as usual Government incompetence.
It is a worldwide fascist takeover for reasons which are up for debate;whether to forestall an economic collapse or cause one to build back better in a zero carbon way.

309855 ▶▶ Biker, replying to AngloWelshDragon, 6, #175 of 218 🔗

I’ve still not found out what’s happened to the broken hearted never mind adding Carl Heneghan to the list

309888 ▶▶ AngloWelshDragon, replying to AngloWelshDragon, #176 of 218 🔗

I’m lifetime banned from Twitter. For misgendering, if you were wondering!

309839 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 2, #177 of 218 🔗

Are these sort of people even worth saving?


Stupid is as stupid does.

309910 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Awkward Git, #178 of 218 🔗

Ha ha – Multipurpose Mask

You can’t make this up

309840 Stuart, 3, #179 of 218 🔗

The Snot Patrol will be out again today, scavenging more mucous for the Cases Kraken.

Remember, no matter how hale and hearty you might feel, if you are “positive” then you are exuding Death from every pore and ought to be locked down, quarantined and terminated, both for your own good and to keep others safe.

309843 PoshPanic, 1, #180 of 218 🔗

This from Freddie Sayers..Stockholm @ 38% pos for anti bodies..


309851 Biker, replying to Biker, 7, #181 of 218 🔗

I just went to the shop and i thought i’d wear a mask and boy it was great, no really it was so liberating. For the first time during the worst Pandemic since the last pandemic of 2018 i felt part of the human race again. Me and all the other people queuing 2000 millimetres apart in our masks not looking at each other waiting on being served by people in masks. It was great. There was a new assistant in the shop and i must say even with the mask she was pretty fit, so i couldn’t see all her face, shame, but the rest of her was decent. Once i’d looked her up and down a few times i gots to wondering what was she gonna sound like. Was she a local or something more exotic, the anticipation caused me to have to adjust my stance, i hoped no one noticed. I started imagining she’d have a sexy Russian accent or sound like a Georgia Peach, maybe she’d be posh and sound like Lady Dianna. I tell you my heart beat was fluttering and i was blushing like my wife on our wedding night, i didn’t even mind this fat grunter of a woman in front taking ages because she’d ordered 4 bacon rolls and two square sausage rolls and a coffee. Then she spoke asking me what i wanted and i heard this thick Geordie accent, the kind that makes you want to involuntary shout “way eye man”, like when you hear a Yorkshire person speak you instantly want to say “ee ba goom”, i didn’t though because of my altered sate of reality i just said four rolls, a fudge doughnut and a cup cake please. I paid and she never spoke another word to me and i left the shop.
The simple question “what i wanted?” had never felt more urgent than it did then. What would one of the smart arse Zen guys i’ve read say? Did she not realise even if i ask for four rolls a fudge doughnut and a cup cake i might not receive that. Greek philosopher Miccus Jaggerus had said “you can’t always get what you want but you sometimes find you get what you need”, i’d never understood that zen parable and i still don’t. They might not have had any cup cakes and i’d have got, maybe a Mr Blobby Biscuit instead, it doesn’t matter, i didn’t need any of them so either would do.
How easy would it be for someone who’d read the Electric Kool Aid Acid Test to spike the hand sanitiser and everyone would be walking around tripping their bollocks off?
I was taking my morning constitutional as it is my habit and the visit to the shop a regular occurrence, a horrible task your body requires you to make if you wants to live. The masked Geordie fit chick, the fat woman with the four bacon rolls, two square sausage rolls and a coffee and myself all high as a Peruvian Medicine Man who’s just blew 33 crushed beetles up his hooter. Considering this as i was for what seemed like a hundred years i realised i still had my mask on, only because i’d stopped time the mask had become a permanent evolutionary change. As i started home i noticed everyone had the skin mask on, some of us were walking on all fours. I got home put the kettle on, placed the needle on a record and sat down at my laptop to see what was happening in the real world and suddenly remembered i’d had a smoke and the whole thing had been a dream except for the bit about going to the shop, the Geordie fit chick, the fat woman with the rolls, the dilemma over the cake or biscuit. And now as the hand sanitiser is wearing off it has occurred to me that for years i thought i enjoyed Herbie Hancock’s Headhunters but as it’s nearing the end of the first side i realise he’s just making this shit up as he goes along and it is fucking terrible music. I’m gonna change it and listen to something else.

309859 ▶▶ Alexei, replying to Biker, 2, #182 of 218 🔗

Biker on rare form today.

309864 ▶▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Alexei, #183 of 218 🔗

why eye man!

309862 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Biker, 1, #184 of 218 🔗

I knew this was a dream before the end of the first line.

309868 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Biker, #185 of 218 🔗

Glad you didn’t go any further with the fudge doughnut part

309890 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to PoshPanic, 1, #186 of 218 🔗

some things really are just as they seem

309916 ▶▶ TC, replying to Biker, #187 of 218 🔗

Nothing wrong with Herbie Hancock – Matt H.- well that’s different.

309853 Margaret, 3, #188 of 218 🔗
309854 TheBigman, 2, #189 of 218 🔗

The new ‘strain’ is a red herring.

Keep drinking the kool aid.

Certainly don’t riot and take back your stolen liberties.

Also rule out for certain that there is no way but an electoral way put of this.

The only prison we’re in is the one of our own making.

309865 Bart Simpson, replying to Bart Simpson, 9, #190 of 218 🔗

I’ve long had the suspicion that we will have Lockdown 3: The Sequel to the Sequel after Christmas however if they think that by calling it another name like Tier 4, do they really think we’re that stupid?

If it walks like like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc….

This goes to show that the government are really hell bent on imposing a Carthaginian destruction of this country under the guise of safety and “protecting the NHS.” The day of reckoning can’t come soon enough for these clowns and ditto the NHS.

309889 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #191 of 218 🔗

do they really think we’re that stupid?”

To be fair, mass behaviour hasn’t been exactly intelligent.

309902 ▶▶▶ Jonathan Palmer, replying to RickH, #192 of 218 🔗

They have tested us over the last 9 months and have found that yes,the population are that gullible and stupid.They will believe any old shit as long as it’s on the TV.
I had a degree of sympathy for the brainwashed because of the physiological attack that has been perpetrated on them,but no longer,no one has any excuse for still going along with this crap.

309921 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to RickH, #193 of 218 🔗

Agree. Seeing supposedly intelligent people fall for this has been the spectacle of the year.

309895 ▶▶ Jonathan Palmer, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #194 of 218 🔗

It’s not a suspicion it’s a fact.Germany,Netherlands Austria,Wales and Northern Island are already in or have announced lockdown 3.

309866 Bella Donna, replying to Bella Donna, 1, #195 of 218 🔗
309869 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Bella Donna, #196 of 218 🔗

E17 is my favourite 😂

309875 crimsonpirate, replying to crimsonpirate, #197 of 218 🔗

In response to the relatively low level of participation in rapid testing…..Austria announced on Friday it will enter its third coronavirus lockdown on December 26th, but those who take part in a planned series of mass testing programme in January will be allowed more freedoms.

Hope you like my re edit of the item re Austria

309887 ▶▶ Biker, replying to crimsonpirate, #198 of 218 🔗

Hitler was Austrian, they like it ordered over there

309876 Country Mumkin, replying to Country Mumkin, 1, #199 of 218 🔗

If I understand this correctly these guys have examined the common cold to explore mutation and immunity then extrapolated findings to SARS Cov2. I think (and I’m simplifying massively here, as I’m not medical) that they say the mutations escape potential immunity after a while. Not something new I would have thought. Just that they are applying to SARS Cov 2 in this particular paper.


Doesn’t that mean…
1. I’m doing some new research so it gets published as part of the pandemic palaver
2. I may even get extra brownie points if I manage to get it used to support further lockdowns or vaccine devt
3. I don’t really mind that I’m really talking about the common cold and saying it “could” be the case for SARS Cov 2.

Am I reading that correctly?

309882 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Country Mumkin, #200 of 218 🔗

Ye. It’s speculation.

309891 ▶▶ Country Mumkin, replying to Country Mumkin, #201 of 218 🔗

They starting this with sample / findings from 1984. Why is everything focused on 1984… are they all seriously mocking us?

309918 ▶▶ swedenborg, replying to Country Mumkin, #202 of 218 🔗

Interesting comment

“Well, virology is basically a religion at the moment. We have to be perfectly clear about that. It merged with Next Generation Sequencing Magic, computer modeling. Turned out to be the cashcow of the planet. We are fighting a relgious war here: Fundamentalists VS. Common Sense.”

309878 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 3, #203 of 218 🔗

Reading the article from NYT in the update today about seriousness of C-19 in young people doesn’t bode well for the future. One of the authors is Michelle Wolensky,Biden’s choice for new CDC chief.


 The new CDC Chief is praised as “clear, articulate & can deliver messages with a smile.” She’ll surely join the ranks of our greatest orators if she delivers eloquent gems like this: “Over time we will be able to maybe one day not be in our masks anymore.”

309927 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to swedenborg, #204 of 218 🔗

The mask is a symbol of belief. It is so evident in America now.

Our kids are being tortured. This will not end without violence

309880 Cecil B, 4, #205 of 218 🔗

Rumour has it that (ok I know nobody cares what goes on in Wales) the Welsh Health Minister resigned on Friday

That’s why Eluned Nobody stood in at the press conference

Apparently he’s annoyed that the Rapists Dad reneged on the Christmas truce

He’s agreed to think it over during the weekend, but the chances are that he won’t change his mind and will gone Monday

Cracks appearing

309892 richard riewer, #206 of 218 🔗

Reset the Globalists.

309898 DRW, replying to DRW, 1, #207 of 218 🔗

I could honestly pay for an induced coma, life is really not worth living anymore. It was always going to be a shite winter but it’s only going to get worse next year. We are gaining in numbers but still losing.

309917 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to DRW, 1, #208 of 218 🔗

I know exactly what you mean! Wake me up when it’s over. But it’s not going to be over unless we all keep pushing back in whatever ways we each can. Losing right now is fine, surrendering isn’t an option! Hang in there. I’ve really appreciated some of your positive posts of late.

309903 FrankiiB, replying to FrankiiB, 2, #209 of 218 🔗

Do lockdowns CAUSE mutations and higher deaths?

I believe I have read this hypothesis before but have lost the link. If anyone has any scientific links please share. The theory is this:

Viruses naturally mutate, and the most successful become dominant. So, under lockdown, more infectious strains will be more successful and become dominant. Is this driving the new strain in Kent? What about South Wales? In South Wales the Welsh lockdown policy has failed and resulted in far higher numbers of cases than if there had been lighter measures, as in Bristol.

At a local level, some areas of central and west London have incredibly low levels of infection, despite being densely population, where disease spread should theoretically be highest. Maybe they have reached ‘endemic equilibrium’ and are close to herd immunity, due to higher rates of transmission in the ‘first wave’. Look at the TOTAL number of Covid deaths comparing these areas to areas such as South Wales. The totals are lower in inner London.

This suggests that it is better to let the virus spread in the first place, which will result in fewer more-infectious mutations, and faster herd immunity to protect the vulnerable more effectively. I suggest this because it is a different angle of attack on the lockdown fanatics who can’t get out of their heads that they think they are keeping people ‘safe’ and ‘saving lives.’ We know they are killing people from non-Covid illnesses, in their thousands, but for lockdowners only Covid matters. I’m suggesting that Lockdown is actually making Covid itself worse.

Am I wrong?

309922 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to FrankiiB, #210 of 218 🔗

The Edinburgh Uni SPI-B study made references to such consequences. They suggested specifically closing schools led to more deaths. For lockdown lovers such a conclusion is so upsetting that it would be likely to cause their tiny brain to shutdown. To stay safe.

309904 Winston Smith, #211 of 218 🔗

I’ve just arrived at my underground fight club, enjoy your Saturday 👍🏻

309907 PoshPanic, #212 of 218 🔗

Prof Balloux, continues holding the centre ground. Maybe someone should tell Jacinda?


At the risk of coming across as a bit blunt, let me clarify that “we never acquired herd immunity for any respiratory virus through vaccination alone”. Some countries may achieve it for #COVID19 , but this will be challenging in the absence of fraction of natural infections

309909 Lainey, replying to Lainey, 7, #213 of 218 🔗

Anyone else struggling with their friends who are incompetence theorists – who are more savvy than MSM normies but just cannot see there’s a bigger agenda going on. I mean, if this is incompetence then funny it’s all designed in a way that maximises problems for small businesses whilst lining corporate pockets. I thought Trump and Brexit were difficult lines in the sand but they’re nothing compared to this.

309911 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Lainey, 3, #214 of 218 🔗

I’m struggling with customers who see nothing wrong with our potentially being in another lockdown in the New Year. When are these idiots going to wake up, when ….? I really am despairing right now and I can see me saying something to someone and they aren’t going to like it.

309926 ▶▶▶ Noumenon, replying to kh1485, #215 of 218 🔗

When it personally affects them. No earlier, no later.

309915 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Lainey, 2, #216 of 218 🔗

As long as they are anti lockdowns I am happy enough. There are people who have never contemplated such things in their life. I am constantly told I have an answer for everything when Covid is brought up from people who normally declare with pride they are “not into politics”.

So it’s a broad Church.

You have to hand it to the Great Resetters, their ability to maintain this shit show is impressive

309919 ▶▶▶ KBuchanan, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #217 of 218 🔗

No they simply bought all the main stream media…. baaa.

309925 ▶▶ Noumenon, replying to Lainey, #218 of 218 🔗

So incompetent every government and quango on earth made the same mistake at the same time.


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