2020-12-21

First! From the USA

goo goo g’joob

dear Tom

My Apology To Facebook about Covid 19 facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTPreIUN2g0

AwakenWithJP

JP is one of my heroes.
I think we should create an LS Award for people like him.

Sir Desmond Swayne Interview Exposes BBC Hypocrisy As They Help The Government Hide From Scrutiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQiNXFfbGa0

Hilarious.

He is so funny. Especially as this is seriously dangerous for his business. But he does not back down. If only the pig dictator had an ounce of his courage.

Semolina pilchards climbing up the Eiffel Tower…

Good morning Walrus.

hancock: the mutant strain can be caught
“more easily from a smaller amount of the virus being present”

Cock & Bull more likely.

Exactly. I don’t believe there is anyway they can know that the virus can be caught more easily. Also, if the PCR test can pick up mutated versions of “COVID-19” maybe it’s also registering other corona viruses as COVID also, such as the common cold. Would certainly explain the seasonal rise in cases.

I’m feeling a bit chesty and have a runny nose at the moment so would probably test positive even though the symptoms are suppressed with Lemsip capsules and I can tell from the taste that it is what I sometimes get this time of year.

I prefer the Lemsip drink. It’s lovely.

and on discount along with strepsils and nurofen. That’s a first

Chopped/diced root ginger left in a flask for 20 -30 mins is good. Honey and/or a cinnamon stick to taste if required.

Put some whisky in and that sounds ok

Laphraoigh, neat, as a nightcap.

Leap Frog. One of the best. Too expensive here in Montreal.

The lemon flavour is the best. Avoid the blackcurrant one.

Wait, the vaccine is available in capsules?

Green tea with honey is also good.

Jasmine tea with honey.

Elderberry tincture is great for colds and flu.

Channel 4 News
‘New variant is out of control says health secretary’

Mutant Matt is out of control. There are mechanisms for removing military offices from power when they become deranged. How is such a minister removed ?

From the quotes
“Necessity is plea for every restriction on human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves”

William Pitt The Younger

Even if there is a mechanism to remove Madcock and Co., they would ignore it or remove any chance of it being actioned.

How have they identified 1100 +individuals with this variant? Full sequencing of the genome? I doubt that somehow. The number was very specific. Are these people taking part in studies like the ONS survey?

I am the Egg man, you are the Walrus.

Does that mean that I’m here and you are her e and we here, together?

Coo~coo coo choob

Our only friend…

You may have been first in reality – everyone can see that – but the certified result shows you were second, so that’s what we’re going with.

wlarus do you know how to find lockdown protests in the usa? i cant figure it out

Zip code? QR scan please? That reminds me, I owe Clark County Treasurer my Jan property tax payment. Thanks! This is really a useful website.

There is a major ethical problem with the vaccine release that isn’t being covered (and emails to lockdown skeptics go unanswered). This info is about the US, but the UK also isn’t telling people about a major risk factor:

The Emergency Use Authorization for the Pfizer vaccine, and its briefing document for the review meeting, states there is an unknown risk of future vaccine enhanced disease (which includes other potential enhancement modes and not just antibody enhancement) after the initial immunity fades:

https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download
“The Sponsor identified vaccine-associated enhanced disease including vaccine-associated enhanced respiratory disease as an important potential risk [….] risk of vaccine-enhanced disease over time, potentially associated with waning immunity, remains unknown and needs to be evaluated further in ongoing clinical trials and in observational studies that could be conducted following authorization and/or licensure.”

i.e. the study simply hasn’t gone on long enough to see if people have sterilizing immunity producing the initial good results that fades, and then when people do actually get infections: the immune response they learned from the vaccine might lead to a worse case of covid-19. Hopefully not: but the trials just haven’t run long enough to demonstrate that.

Yet the FDA isn’t telling patients about this risk, nor is the media. The FDA’s fact sheet for recipients of the Pfizer vaccine for covid-19 is here and there isn’t a peep about it:
https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

Nor is there in its doc for healthcare providers, nor is it in the UK’s NHS or Canadian equivalents.

An International Journal of Clinical Practice article on
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ijcp.13795
“Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID‐19 vaccines worsening clinical disease”

explains that the vaccine trials didn’t meet medical ethics standards regarding fully informed consent since the issue of vaccine enhanced disease wasn’t explained in a way they’d comprehend. The FDA’s information doesn’t even mention it, let alone explain it in the way people comprehend, which seems an obviously major violation of medical ethics. Its also doesn’t make sense: since enough people will likely risk it anyway, but they should get that choice because even some experts wouldn’t yet.

If they don’t correct this soon, and chalk it up to an oversight in the rush to get this out the door: it risks a backlash in a few months if the public becomes generally aware of it, akin to the backlash after the Tuskegee study where participants weren’t fully informed. They’ll wonder: “If you didn’t tell us about this risk, what else aren’t you telling us, why should we trust it?”. People can understand that trials are still ongoing: they won’t understand not informing them of risks since it looks like a coverup, even if in theory they could have hunted through the FDA’s more technical documents to find it.

Experts apparently don’t agree on the magnitude of the risk: which is why its particularly important for it to be disclosed for public debate. Media in countries hit hard by COVID-19 haven’t called attention to the issue to date. In contrast a Japanese paper quoted the director of the Japanese Society of Clinical Virology: “Concerns over ADE still remain. I am an elderly person myself, but if I were asked, I would say I don’t want to get a shot.”
Elsewhere he explained: “In the past, a dengue vaccine proved effective in tests and was widely used, but then it worsened symptoms for people who were still getting infected.”. A leading professor of Immunology testified to Japan’s House of Representatives: “There’s no doubt that their effectiveness is quite high, but their safety is not guaranteed at all”.

Its also the case that many studies *do* see concerns over potential vaccine enhanced disease in this case. Severe covid isn’t due to a lack of immune response: but a dysfunctional immune response. One study termed it an “uncoordinated” response. Will the response that occurs after the vaccine fades be a functional one, or an “uncoordinated” one? That paper suggests there is a risk that vaccines that only target the spike may be at risk of vaccine enhanced disease. Regardless, since they don’t understand fully the broken response with severe covid-19, its unclear how they can yet be certain what the odds are the vaccine will be more or less likely to trigger a broken immune response that leads to severe illness. Hopefully not: the tests just haven’t gone on long enough to demonstrate it.

The links to the various studies I mentioned are on BuildVaccineTrust.com where I put together information out of frustration that I didn’t see it being addressed. Its focused on government and academic journal links and expert references for people to evaluate

If the vaccine does indeed result in an ADE response, causing more severe COVID, no doubt it will be blamed on a new strain of the virus instead of the vaccine. I think this is a very possible outcome and a key reason I will not be taking the vaccine.

You’re quite right that the vaccine will somehow not be to blame. Every past coronavirus vaccine attempt has resulted in an ADE response so there’s no reason to believe this one will be any different. I’ll be taking a pass on it as well.

Are you familiar with Amazing Polly?

Yes,I am. I recently watched an inspiring little podcast by her about the hidden dangers of passive compliance around mask wearing. She is worth supporting.

Great.

Exactly. Have thought this all along. They’ll never blame the ‘holy’ vaccine in a million years.

Not just that, but once the ‘vaccine’ was rolled out, HCQ was approved for use for Covid cases by the FDA in the US. Any improvement due to HCQ will no doubt be credited to the ‘vaccine’.

I read about ADE a couple of months ago – “Is a Coronavirus Vaccine a Ticking Time Bomb?”    “Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE), and is a common problem with Dengue Virus, Ebola Virus, HIV, RSV, and the family of coronaviruses. In fact, this problem of ADE is a major reason why many previous vaccine trials for other coronaviruses failed. Major safety concerns were observed in animal models. If ADE occurs in an individual, their response to the virus can be worse than their response if they had never developed an antibody in the first place.”  – Dr Doug, Aug 15th 2020 – https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2020/08/01/is-a-coronavirus-vaccine-a-ticking-time-bomb/

It’s definitely a thing. I work for a major vaccine developer, and it’s something the scientific community is very aware of as a concern.

One of the difficulties though with this vaccine is that if you are vaccinating the over 90s they are likely to die soon anyway, and before this becomes a potential issue. It’s when you start in younger people that the issue might be spotted. And it may take years before their immunity has waned enough for this to become a factor. Time bomb indeed. I think I will give it a miss.

Better keep taking the boosters then

This will be an even better investment than buying shares in facemasks in February! With no downside, because in a fascist state political cover is 100 percent effective.

I believe this is the third consecutive day this same post has appeared in the comments. Might it be better posted in the forum so that all the replies are together ?

This comments section can sometimes be as maddening as the whole scamdemic, noting the daily rush to be the first plonker to post ‘first’. The articles above also only concern themselves with disproving this scamdemic, and not sparing enough attention to what or who is driving this. This encourages a shadow boxing response where most people don’t even know what we’re dealing with, they’re just encouraged to get angry at the finer details.

Its been posted in the forums: but those don’t seem to be very active and it isn’t getting responses. The ideal place is in the blog itself: but emails to the address given for the blog don’t lead to any responses. Perhaps others could take a try to get the blog to post about the issue.

Its been posted in the forums: but those don’t seem to be very active and it isn’t getting responses. The ideal place is in the blog itself: but emails to the address given for the blog don’t lead to any reply. Perhaps others could take a try to get the blog to post about the issue.

I had thought that but this post is still attracting upticks and new responses from readers who had perhaps missed it previously.

The Independent reports hundreds of demonstrators in London just before tier 4.
Congratulations to all and good luck to the 26 arrested.

Meanwhile Local Live (mirror group news) reports that a single person sadlidied of covid over the weekend at the major regional hospital.
No wonder the government need to shut the country down in time to cancel Christmas just to fuel johnsons fantasy of equalling Churchill in his battle against Catatonic Coronovirus.

When is a thousand a hundred? When you work for the MSM.

It’s Bozo who is catatonic. Any apparent brain function is just somebody jerking the strings.

“Sadlidied”

Alathea invented the word. For alleged Covvideaths, no other will do.

No, I can’t take the credit – it was Northumbrian Nomad. I merely adopted it because it is darling.

Happilithanks, NN!

Further hilarious news from South Africa:
https://www.medicalbrief.co.za/archives/12-tested-kn95-mask-brands-used-in-sa-fail-international-safety-standards-uct-study/

Who could have guessed?

Screenshot of that for use in live conversations.

12 tested KN95 mask brands used in SA fail international safety standards — UCT studyDecember 16th, 2020 Research Africa

All the Chinese KN95 masks, widely imported into South Africa to counter the COVID-19 pandemic, tested in a University of Cape Town study, failed to provide the protection provided by the ‘gold standard’ N95 mask, reports MedicalBrief .
The study, published in the SA Medical Journal , found that none of the 12 brands of KN95 masks tested (comprising 36 masks) met stipulated safety requirements known to prevent infection by dangerous respiratory pathogens including (tuberculosis) and SARS-CoV-2.
The study, notes that the N95 mask (FFP2 in Europe) is the primary mode of respiratory protection in most parts of the world because of the high regulatory standards to which it is manufactured. However, owing to the severe global shortage of N95 masks during the COVID-19 pandemic, there has been a growing demand for N95-like FFRs. The most commonly available substitute for the N95 mask has been the KN95 mask, which is mainly manufactured in China to the GB2626-2006 standard, and which is considered equivalent to the N95
by the US Food And Drug Administration (FDA) following Emergency Use Authorisation based on testing of filtration efficacy of the mask material.
“The manufacture of N95-like masks remains highly regulated in order to ensure that they filter out at least 95% of penetrating aerosol particles ≥0.3 µm in diameter, fit tightly to maximise the passage of inhaled air through the filter fabric of the mask, and have low inhalational resistance to minimise breathing difficulty. There has been a growing concern about the quality of the circulating supplies of N95-like masks
in many parts of the world, including the circulation of counterfeit masks.
The study concludes” “Our results are concerning because none of the KN95 masks tested met stipulated safety requirements, including passing the seal test and the qualitative fit test, and mask material filtration efficacy. We recommend stronger oversight by regulatory agencies such as the SA Health Products Regulatory Authority to enforce recently published amended regulations and extend this to manufacturers and distributors.

Oh dear!

Pity the poor bastards who actually need one for work to keep gunk out of their lungs.

We are very close now to the point where millions of people who have been relatively comfortable thus far are really going to start to feel the pain of the consequences of their compliance. The invoice for our dreadful collective mistakes of 2020 is due in 2021, and it is going to be very, very big indeed. The absolute best case scenario is a popular rebellion that unseats the government and lifts all the restrictions, but with many harsh years of rebuilding ahead of us to repair all the damage. Last chance saloon and all that.

I agree with your assessment. Many people haven’t been feeling the pinch, public sector workers have got off very lightly so far. There’s going to be a reckoning very soon.

No there’s not, the british public are just fucking dandy with the whole thing. Do be confident that this will pass. They will kill us if we don’t go along with them. We are never getting free from them. I’ll believe we will when we see the likes of Johnstone and sturgeon swinging from a lamp post however that is never gonna be the case and we now live under global tyranny and there isn’t a thing you can do about it. No wait, sorry they’re just incompetent say the liars and the tell tales who come here. Face it there are handful of genuine skeptics but that is all.

The Great British Public might be dandy with it now, but they’re comfortably numb. When the bills and consequences start coming in, as they inevitably must, the comfort blanket will disappear like snow in spring sunshine, and there will be a reckoning, which won’t be pretty and which will affect all of us deeply in one way or another.

I keep hearing when the bill comes in, sometime downtime road etc but i don’t see it. Not gonna happen. This tiers system will be applied to towns so we won’t be leaving our towns and we won’t know what is going on in other towns because the internet is going away too. I keep saying this and everyone keeps ignoring it, they are shutting down the fossil fuel industry because they planet is totally fucked. This is the start of it. Seven billion people are gonna go. This time next year we’ll be reminiscing about how good life was back when all we had to do was wear a mask.

Lockdown’s just fine if you’re home on 80% money, feeling virtuous about it, and, as you put it, stuffing doughnuts – for most people anyway.

But facts are stubborn things. And numbers with pound note signs in front of them are – eventually – even more stubborn.

Didn’t someone say that any organised society is only five missing meals away from anarchy? Something like that anyway. As the saying goes, food first ethics second (again, something like that).

I guess that when the Collapse comes you’ll be holed up at Cape Wrath and go down in a scene redolent of Mad Maz.

I’ll get to Land’s End and escape in a small boat, and lose my pursuers in the tides and currents around the Longships rocks. Thereafter I’ll wander strange lands with a price on my head. These will later become known as my Wilderness Years. But the inherent inconsistencies in the New World Order will lead eventually to its collapse, and I will return as King. First to be sorted will be journalists, then academics …

Meanwhile, better get the kids some breakfast. Solstice in two hours.

Lockdown is not fine for those on 80% money. maybe if you’re on 80% of three grand a week but since most people are on less than 500 quid a week losing 20% has been a deal breaker. When the end comes i’ll be rounded up like the rest of us. How the fuck are we gonna be able to stop any of it?

When they kick at your front door

How you gonna come?

With your hands on your head

Or on the trigger of your gun?

When the law break in

How you gonna go?

Shot down on the pavement

Or waiting on death row?

I’ll probably just crack a few jokes and pretend I know something they don’t.

Some of the furlough fiddles I’ve heard about are obscene. The people I know on furlough have been fine with it, even though it’s meant less money. Clearly some are suffering though – thing is, they’re spread around and unconnected. Once the suffering becomes joined up, and the reaction organised, things will be different.

As much as i love the Clash they were only pretending to be rebels

Yes, I’d go along with that. They were just a laugh really, but a good one. Never have taken ‘political’ bands seriously.

‘Sing along with Bono and save the World’

No thanks.

Just make sure that when they come for you, that you will take one of them with you.

Shelter said people were just three paychecks away from homelessness. I can vouch for this as some years ago I nearly was. People now having to go on UC are finding it not fit for purpose. It’s all building nicely.

And the sooner the damn breaks the better imv, as the longer this goes on the more damage will entail.

Agree with that Biker..I have bee n trying to put this point across for months but I’m just tired now. This whole notion of us ” Winning” is so delusional it’ actually borders to deranged . I have seen war first hand and the situation we are under now is far off winning in any shape or form that it’s not even on the radar. The best we can hope so is survival or a quick demise.

No one ‘wins’ out of this as such, just as no one actually ‘wins’ in war – we’re all worse off in the end. I keep telling people that even for those who are for now relatively unaffected there are very hard times ahead for the great majority of us – the country has pissed its wealth away on nothing.

But if ‘winning’ is defined as getting to a point where we can start rebuilding society again on decent foundations then I’ll take that, whatever we want to call it.

Survival will be difficult, but why let them get off without a fight. Take at least one of the bastards with you.

Yes indeed, you really know what’s going on. Some of those who are really running the scam may actually believe that the planet is, as you say “totally fucked”, while others just want the place for themselves. Either way, we are not wanted and they are working hard to get rid of us. As Bill Gates told us in 2010, vaccines are the perfect way to cull the population. No guns, no gore, just frighten them enough and they will be begging for the lethal injection. You’ve got to admire the audacity of it.

Again I must say that I made ominous predictions back in Spring about how this will play out – so far I’ve been right (not because I’m a smart arse, but because this deliberate collapse of society has been planned for years and discussed amongst people who the public laughed at as being tin-hat-wearing conspiracy theorists). I was predictably mocked here on this site by the more popular posters for being miserable – particularly for saying Christmas will be cancelled. You know who you are!

Well look at us now.

And as you say, this is not going to get better. And I agree, the public will not revolt. They’ve spent years in a coma-like state of consumerism while the criminal actions of their governments only affected people abroad at the same time as mentally conditioning the population to be more obedient through political correctness.

I continue to implore those who are brave enough to accept the reality of what is happening to start taking decisive action to better prepare for what ‘they’ have install for us in the next few years.

Tell us who mocked you so we can mock them!

I think you’ll find the planet is a bit stronger than all of us put together. It’s the height of human arrogance to imagine anything we fleas could to to an elephant’s hide would even be noticed by nature. CO2 was 5 times higher than now when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and it coped very well, thank you very much. All the greenhouse gasses man has ever put in the atmosphere ever since the dawn is only 2% by weight of what is there naturally, NOW. Never mind the fact that there was once 5 times as much. Grow up.

The problem is that with negative interest on government gilts, they are being paid to borrow money. So the ability to pay furlough and the large percentage of public employees is not a worry for a long time. If you add in the employees of large corporates who mainly have remained unscathed through this, you are left with the smaller retail, entertainment, leisure sector and some small/middle sized commercial/manufacturing employers many of whom are going under, but a lot of their employees are covered by furlough.
I can’t see where this mass of unemployed AND unpaid is coming from. As long as they keep this model intact they will survive in government because most people still have enough to lose by popular revolt.
The only way it changes is through the discontent of tory mps who think they will lose seats at a GE, and that is still years away. And the way the UK is going it might be wishful to think there will be one in the foreseable future.
The one thing that could change the balance is no deal at Transend. Things could get very tough, although again it will take time for people to realise how tough. No food in supermarkets and/or very rapid price increases could do it, although I suspect that this latest ‘new strain’ con is a first run at blaming those effects on covid rather than trade.

Doesn’t it all depend on how long QE can be kept going?

They can’t go on debasing the currency indefinitely.

And this QE is different from back in 2009-10 (when it went largely to banks). This time it’s going straight into people’s pockets, in lieu of wages – a sure route to inflation, and lots of it.

You speak of genuine skeptics but I wonder how many of those understand that even the Great Reset is misunderstood (deliberately) as entirely a change of economics? The 3rd Temple is being rebuilt, there are no coincidences.

Regardless of your financial situation, lockdown is goin to affect you :-

• Not being to have a social life as something as simple as seeing family and friends is criminalized.
• Being denied acccess to medical care.
• Not being able to engage in leisure activities such as eating out, going to pubs, gyms and travel.
• Even if your job is secure, you may have family and friends who have lost their jobs which may affect you. For instance, if your partner looses their job you have a reduced income.
• Not being able to protest.
• Being restricted how many can attend weddings and funerals.

The gift that keeps on giving. As someone said recently no country has ever successfully improved the health of a nation by making its population poorer.

You’re dreaming pal. 80% of more of the population are right fucking behind this. A truth the Germans still struggle with is almost everyone became a Nazi and did not give a fuck about the killing of jews, children, anyone in fact who wasn’t one of them. After the war millions of German men all of whom had commit the worst atrocities you can imagine just went back to normal life. The British people once so mighty are now nothing but the scum of the earth and will jump on your head till your dead without a single compulsion. It’s a terrifying situation where us handful of skeptics will be taken out no fucking problem.

No, genuine support is not 80percent. People don’t know what to do, and they hope this will just blow over without action from them. But the Corona’s Witnesses are a minority, with little potential of further growth and apostasies every day.

The believers are getting more vocal, however.

You’re right it’s probably more like 95 % support it

Depends how you mean ‘support’.
Most just go with flow, as they cannot conceive, comprehend or countenance the notion that the Globalists are trying to destroy the country, with the knowing or unknowing collusion of the Govt.

I would agree the capacity for true independent thought, resides in just a small percentage.
Likewise the full-on Branch Covidian zealots represent a small percentage.

You are right about that.It’s NOT 80 percent, not even close. Probably more like 98-99%.

99% maskoids in Morrisons today!

Yes, it’s easy to go along with things until the shit hits the fan as it will and fairly soon at that. The corrupt government is running us onto the rocks at full speed and they are doing it intentionally working to the WEF agenda. Expect power outages and basic food shortages before the end of winter. A deliberately contrived no deal Brexit, will also help them further turn the screw.

“The British people once so mighty are now nothing but the scum of the earth and will jump on your head till your dead without a single compulsion.”

Really?

And your evidence for this is what, exactly?

The evidence is there for everyone to see ( or NO to see to be precise). No mass disobedience, mask wearing on public transport around 99%, on the streets around 60% but going up, every single liberty and rights taken away from us but no protests ( only whimpers of the protests). London, city of 11 millions in a country of 66 millions has produced 2000 protesters at a lockdown protest. When the Great Dictator allowed people to see some live sports 10000 people signed up for the waiting list to see a Championship side playing average football ( my team). If we were wrong there would be a millions people marching or more ( remember the Iraq anti war protests!!) every weekend , weekdays etc.. British people have no fight left in them, none. Our ancestors who fought in WW1 and WW2 are spinning in their graves. Good for them that almost all of them are dead now, they would spit on us in the street

People demonstrated in huge numbers against the death of a drug addict ex armed robber 4000 miles away. Yet they are unwilling to protest about their own freedoms being obliterated and their jobs, businesses and economy being destroyed. The great British Public have a very strange sense of priorities.

we sell weapons to despots and no one gives a fuck, i could list things all day long but what’s the point

Everything I see around me whenever I go into towns.

How did this ridiculous post garner so much support? You don’t know your history pal, and you certainly don’t speak accurately of British people.

Your view is borne out by my outing for a pub meal today in Tier 2 in Cheshire. All the tables I could hear near us were saying how well the pub had done to keep us safe and how they were all terrified. 3 women even put their masks on for a photo at the table! I presume that photo will be used for virtue signalling later on social media. The only people who I come across who are sceptic are working class male tradesmen like the 2 blokes who tiled my kitchen yesterday who agreed it was all bollocks. However they said some customers made them wear masks on the job and stayed in separate parts of the house!

Agree. Those who are in cushy jobs in the public sector, media have not been impacted at all. Same with those who are retired and sitting on huge savings and generous pension schemes. And many in this group have been the loudest in calling for more lockdowns, restrictions and still brainwashed to the point of supporting this latest travesty.

The day of reckoning won’t be kind to them and I shan’t feel sorry for them. They’re complicit in all this and the least they can do is to finally feel what it’s been like for the rest of us for the past 9 months.

Please don’t class all retirees as lockdownistas. I certainly aint and many others share my views.

Did you read my comment? I did say “many in this group” so I’m not saying that all retirees are lockdownistas.

Agreed, but the fear porn is effective. Even those previously asking for a place on the final cruise on the Swale now anxious about new variant rona.

They’ve set up an asymptomatic testing station on the Island and it’s rammo with all the idiots

Damn right. The majority of the most disobedient people I know have been those in their 70s and 80s. Particularly with masks and sitting apart. And they’re always polite in explaining why they aren’t going to do what they’re told.

I’ve seen plenty of rebellious teenagers too. Whole load of them fooling around on the bus the other day, none of them masked of course.

I’m sometimes polite, sometimes rude. It depends.

Baby Boomers Rule!

And I’m one of them.

I agree there are exceptions like on here but I think they are hugely outnumbered by the smug ones who are on guaranteed incomes.

The comfortably off retired really dont give a shit to be honest. I know as I have some in my family….no longer speaking of course! They come out with crap like ‘we are all in it together’. Tell that to the little people who have had their incomes destroyed. Believe me they dont give a shit.

Didn’t you post this exact thing yesterday on another subject? Do you only have one point to make or are you just programmed to add comments to stir up dissent between young and old like so many of the fake posters on this website do? You’re so easy to spot and if you’re a person being paid for doing this I feel very sorry for you

If the Corona Scandal house-of-cards ever collapses, then we will be extremely lucky indeed. But the human race has proven itself to be less intelligent than I thought

In this moment civilisation is on a knife-edge. It could so easily tip into global fascism. All veneer, illusion, pretence of democracy and society will be discarded. Concentration camps, immunity passports, poverty, starvation, fascist governance, police brutality will become the norm

If humanity has a second chance, then I hope people will remember the toxic nature of the mainstream media and the way it betrayed humanity. I hope televisions will find new homes in dumpsters and that the BBC is defunded. That YouTube, Twitter and Facebook are never allowed to ban content for political reasons again

Crucially, laws need creating that protect human rights, giving them priority over any health crisis that might occur in the future, and Government ministers and MPs must be prevented from involvement in policy creation if they are found to have conflicts of interest. This would mean the likes of Patrick Vallance et al would be banned from the roles they have now

“The unknowing are slaves to the liars*.”

With regards to the gender debate I live in Thailand and I asked about the ‘ladyboys’ and their id cards/passports. Apparently even with a total sex-change(as it used to be called) id cards cannot be changed even when they are now different to their birth gender.

I could be wrong but there doesn’t seem to be any backlash at the government about this.

I must confess I don’t know which toilets they use. But never having seen one in a male toilet I’m guessing the women’s. I suppose it’s just such an accepted part of the culture here that nobody bothers.

You must go to some posh places. Most I go to have only one toilet

Really? How friendly. Last night I was at a place where they have one gents’ cubicle and one ladies’. The gents’ being occupied, and my time being short, I ducked into the ladies’, on the basis that the restaurant was pretty quiet. Needless to say, when I emerged there was a woman waiting outside and her outraged stare turned me into a pillar of salt. A whole new meaning to the phrase “walk of shame”.

(Sorry to stray so far off topic, but the topic is about as much fun as strangulated haemorrhoids at the moment.)

I thought keeping the old meat and two veg was part of it as on Boogie Street.

Let’s just say there’s a continuum, and a list of actual lived genders that’s almost as long as Facebook’s list of imaginary ones.

I’ve been unwilling to link covid/lockdown with Brexit.
Last week BBC Radio ‘news’ was reporting lorry tailbacks at Dover and elsewhere speculating that firms were stockpiling prior to a no deal Brexit (er… wouldn’t those tailbacks be in Calais? More likely it was European truckers heading home for Xmas).

Convenient timing for Brexit wreckers that the mutant covid has arrived just in time for many European countries to use it to put a ban on freight which did not occur at the height of the initial ‘pandemic’.

Let’s see if we get an ’emergency delay’ for Brexit
‘just until we get this calamity covid strain under control’

The freight ban raises the imminent threat of widespread food shortages in January. I think this reaction was genuinely unexpected by the UK government, especially given that freight was not at all affected even in March/April. I would not be at all surprised if some EU 27 governments have taken the opportunity to use the “mutant strain” narrative clumsily vomited out by the Johnson junta (ironically primarily for domestic consumption) as a means of exacting revenge on the perceived British betrayal of the EU project.

The globalist FILTH has been planning exactly that!

Correct.

wrong

Nope it’s the nest phase of the shut down of the world economy. Food shortages coming our way. You’ll be getting a ration card soon. Still it’s all just incompetence

That’s ok, we just buy food from elsewhere while we return British farming to self sufficiency. The folly of importing more people than we export is now laid bare for all to see.

It’s an interesting cognitive dissonance on the part of the government planners. I believe that we need to be self-sufficient in food as far as we can be. So imagine my surprise when the government proposes a post Brexit “re-wilding” of the countryside and paying “farmers” to do so to meet some fanciful green agenda rather than turning more land over to food production.

I just don’t know what to make of that sort of stupidity in not increasing the internal food supply.

There is a lot of empty land that could be brought back into arable farming.

Nope. Disagree. Full-on expected and planned for. If I could predict this was their plan six months ago, then they sure could engineer it. A deliberate crash-out.

Why else the surreptitious construction of all the lorry parks (bypassing all normal planning rules), which was conducted with very little reporting.
Seasoned haulage contractors and (ex or retired) Customs Officers have been predicting this hugely disruptive outcome all year.

If this was indeed unexpected by the Govt, then it represents new levels of monumental incompetence and stupidity, which I just don’t buy.
(I have personally planned for this accordingly…)

It coincides with the attack on the £ which started this morning.

I linked Brexit back with climate change zealots back in March. Remoaners never went away and the fact they kept their heads down only sent warning signals. Bozo is no leader and he is not a Brexiteer, I’m fully expecting a stitch up and judging by the commenting on Internet websites so are many others. Locking down the South of England would bring a halt to any protests when Bozo waters down Brexit.

It really depends upon which of his lies Johnson wishes to preserve the most. Preserving the mutant strain lie forces yet another humiliating U-turn, this time on extending the Brexit negotiations deadline. Preserving the Brexit lie means jeopardising the mutant strain narrative and its associated Tier 4 restrictions.

I am confident that he will choose a combination that guarantees maximum suffering for the British people.

Too much strategic thinking and very little human empathy and compassion. Technocratic mind.

There’s never gonna be a Brexit. We are under the jackboot of the NWO and it matters not a fucking jot what any of us say, think or do

We are going to defeat the NWO.

Tailbacks were on both sides. Many outgoing trucks were going out empty in order to return with essential supplies, parts, components etc. before the crash-out.

Where is this Ramesh email re: excess deaths in the US ?

Thanks. I’d like to see it too.

From the roundup
San Francisco Chronicle reports many times more people dying of drug overdoses than Covid
“Many people overdosed in low income housing, hotel rooms for the homeless. Others died on sidewalks, in alleyways and in parks around the city”

Isn’t that what they predicted would happen if they did not impose lockdown ?

It’s always good news to hear of junkies dying of overdoses. One less fucking leech on this planet

So much for empathy.

If you’re going to San Franscisco
Be sure to wear …

A flower print mask.

Anyone else literally wondering just how much longer they can stand this Lockdown malarkey for? I’m keeping going because I have the purpose that I’m running an anti-Lockdown Facebook group and therefore hope I’m playing my small part in getting things back to Normal. But my patience and sense of purpose are wearing very thin and I am so thankful I’ve only got an estimated 15 years or so of life due to me – because, if I were younger and it was an estimated 60 years then I’d have already cut that short and gone (ie to Heaven). I wonder if “They” will ever allow us to have our Society back again or whether it’s true they never intended to do so right from the outset and were always going to make excuse after excuse after yet more lies to refuse us having Normal Life ever again – written from Gulag Wales

The thing is not to ask what we are allowed to do but to do what we want and take it from there.

That’s precisely what I do and what I guess most on here will be doing. But there is inevitably fallout from the IM’s (Indoctrinated Masses) that impacts back onto us. I am so thankful I don’t need a job for my income (as it’s safely pension) and so the main fallout on me personally is my missing social life (dance classes/films/etc/etc). But, even at a directly personal level – it impacts. A nearby also-single friend of mine is scheduled to come round mine on Boxing Day (Gulag Wales) and rang me yesterday to say she’s checked and figured out that she is “allowed” to do so. She isn’t and has got it wrong – but I’m not going to tell her that LOL. If I did let on to her that Dripford wouldn’t let her – then she’d cancel – even with me explaining the logic that literally a few hours difference between Christmas Day and Boxing Day makes no difference at all (as neither of us expects to see anyone else in the few hours after midnight Christmas Day or have any deliveries). So either way – we either will have it (but not know) or won’t have it and a few hours isn’t going to make any difference to that. All logic has gone out the window for many..

I ask myself that question every day. The answer depends entirely on all of us. If there is enough continuing compliance, then we could go all the way into a nightmare technocratic dystopia for decades (and possibly even centuries). If there is any sort of rebellion, then it could be over by the end of 2021.

Thinking – well it wouldnt be centuries – but then remembered British history includes the 100 Years War. I’ve often felt sorry for the more rational people living at that time – as some of them will have gone all the way from being born during it, living a long life, and then dying and it would still be going on. Thus they would never have known what Normal is like.

The HYW proceeded in stages, with interruptions.People adjusted, people survived. Battles were short, forces on both sides small, conflicts localised. It was very bad in places at times, yes, but not everywhere all the time.
The Bkack Death caused a brief interruption to the HYW, but it resumed quickly. People in those days were tough.
Incidentally, if you want a parallel to Turdgeon or Dungford or Wankok for horrific self-satisfied cruelty and utter lack of empathy, try Henry V. Not the Shakespeare one, the real one.

Also in Gulag Wales (which Toby and Will seem to have completely lost interest in).

I know exactly how you feel, but we must, must, must soldier on. I know it sounds pompous, but Humanity depends on us. There is us, and semizombies who won’t break the rules but may ultimately be redeemed, and ultrazombies which ceased to be human long ago. We can’t leave the world in their hands.

My riding lesson this morning was of course cancelled, but I’m going to school the horse and practise what we have already learned.

My semizombie sister refuses to come for Christmas, but my partner and I are going to have a festive day.

I will not go and mumble through face knickers in the Tenby Coward Covidian Church of Living Death, but I shall go to Castle Hill on Christmas morning and sing carols until my voice gives out.
And I shall broadcast stickers like leaves in Vallombrosa.

I shall NEVER give in.

Yes, quite. I don’t understand talk of giving in.

Don’t get me wrong, I find the maskeloids deeply irritating and even sinister, and it’s irritating if you want to go somewhere and it’s closed.

But other than that I just live my life – there’s always plenty to do, and if you can’t do what you were doing before you can do something else. I can honestly say I can keep going indefinitely like this.

Having said that, the TJN family haven’t been affected by some of the more direct effects of the lockdown – loss of employment, loss of health care, or much loss of education. People who have suffered such effects do have my sympathy and I understand that at times they must feel despair. But even then the only thing you can realistically do is batten down the hatches and wait for the storm to pass, which it surely will. And take revenge when it does.

But to return to a subject that I often allude to here: some 130 million in the Developing World facing starvation because of what our society has done. That does make me despair.

That’s obviously something that must make it easier for many – having the TJN family/their own equivalent. There are about 8 million people living on their own in this country – and I know that things could be worse than that (ie unhappily married) – but the assumption is that most couples/families are happy ones and that that is the reason they are still together.

I’m not an only child – but I am an eldest child and nothing remotely in common with the other (adult) child elsewhere in the country – to extent right now of very much doubting my Christmas card due from them has even been sent and there will certainly be no exchange of cards next year or ever again for sure. As an only/eldest child with a totally incompatible sibling – I’ve long since learnt a lot about being on my own from Day 1 – but I still want to see friends etc and, as a single person, I need to.

Yes, it must be tough sometimes on your own, but it’s tough with a family sometimes too.

Regarding meeting people – we just do so anyway, and have done ever since this garbage started.

Isn’t there a meet up bit on the forum section of this site?

think it’s supposed to be for those looking for romance and/or sex.

Is sex still legal lol?

Hi Eliza P. Don’t know if you’ll see this now, but I meant the ‘Meet fellow sceptics’ section under Forums, rather than ‘Love in a Cold Climate’.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/forums/

There is – and there’s a seciton for platonic friends.

I’m in a similar position Eliza, although in my case it’s an older sibling. I’m widowed but still relatively young (50s) and the company of friends is important to me. During the original lockdown I saw no-one (other than at shops etc.) for months as they were unwilling to break the rules. When it was eased my friends started to ignore any remaining restrictions and I began to see them regularly, but I fear that now we are all in Tier 4 areas they are becoming compliant again.

Loneliness is tough, and a societal problem that’s been largely ignored in the past. Perhaps this tragedy will bring it to more attention in future.

I hope you and Eliza P. and sceptics like you can find some solace on sites like this – not the same as actual human contact, but better than nothing.

My post was meant to say to avoid despair, not to deny suffering in some people.

Loneliness can also build strength and resilience. My guess is that a disproportionate number of sceptics have been lonely at times – true independence and clarity of thought requires you to be on your own at times, which isn’t always easy or comfortable.

I’ve been very lucky as a single adult in having a modest but hugely supportive group of friends and people I work with who have made sure I’m not lonely. What’s also been so heartening about them is that I think they know I’m more anti-lockdown than them but have respected and accomodated my stance just as I’ve done the same for them. That’s the kind of friends you want. I’ve had some lovely birthday and Christmas cards from people thanking and supporting me, and some people who made sure I had an excellent birthday during LD2.0 even if it meant bending the rules a little.

Tell that to Archbishop Jellybaby. Perhaps the thought that he has helped to condemn 130 million people to death may cause him intense pain.
And perhaps he doesn’t give a damn. Stay safe, and devil take the third world, Amen, all hail to the Covid God.

I honestly don’t know how thinking people can square this in their own minds.

But I guess I’ve answered my own question: they are not thinking people.

PS – that’s the figure that’s been bandied around. I’ve no idea whether t is correct or not. But that there are going to be terrible knock-on effects in the Developing World is clear.

Annie I’m with u there!! Never say die. This is a fight to the bitter end for me.

well done Annie – glad your spirit has bounced back after the setback a couple days ago about your sister. You are our spirit of positivity to buck us all up when feeling demotivated!
I hope one day we can all meet up, but in the meantime have as good a christmas as possible.

Thank you, Sue!
I managed my first stirrupless canter this morning. Really pleased with the horse and myself.

To be honest my life will go on pretty much as usual in tier 2 or even tier 3 but I count myself lucky not under threat of a beating from our thug Police just for wanting a stroll in the park.

It’s never coming back. This time next year you’ll miss how easy it was at the beginning of this. Mark my words you’re life is gonna be hell, all our lives are gonna be hell.

I do hope you’re wrong and am guessing you also hope you’re wrong. I’m still waiting/waiting/waiting at the moment and, if I do go down (and out), then I can at least sit there in Heaven and think “Well – I tried – I gave it my best shot – to try and save that from happening”.

I’m not wrong. Have you not heard them tell you? They’ve been saying for years. Fossil fuels gone and along with it the machine that sustains 8 billion people. They don’t care who dies as long as 7 billion of us do.
There is no heaven you won’t be sitting anywhere you’ll just be dead

Blimey you make Peter Hitchens sound optimistic! Mind you he has generally been right so you probably are too.

‘There was no protection, no security against being constantly made aware of things and being drawn into them. There was no country to which one could flee , no quiet one could purchase; always and everywhere the hand of fate seized us and dragged us back in its insatiable play.’ – Stefan Zweig talking of The Great War

My Apology To Facebook about Covid 19 facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTPreIUN2g0

AwakenWithJP

Magic.

Good morning fellow Sceptics. Today we will be venturing out from the safety of our bunker to the virus infested world of the masked zombies to go to Tescos for what we hope will be the last Christmas shop. Originally we planned to leave it until Wednesday but in view of problems at the ports and freight being held up were going sooner rather than later. What a wonderful world Bozo and his clowns have given us. They should be swinging from lampposts, I live in hope they will. I found the article on the London rally alarming, the police are out if control as is this tyrannical government. Yesterday whilst surfing the net it became apparent the 77th Brigade were out in force infesting some of the websites with their unwanted presence and Government propaganda. Who would have thought this could happen?

I’ve spotted a couple of things in a few places where I’ve had the strong feeling the poster was someone in the 77th Brigade (and called them out on it). Any ways to help identify it’s one of them (rather than a real person iyswim) would be appreciated.

yes i found the post regarding the protest also alarming. What the hell has this country in store for us if cannot protest peacefully is truly frightening.

15,000 + government agents can sadly produce a lot of hateful propaganda in a day. Most of the people posting this stuff are useful idiots, what they don’t realise is they will have to live in the dystopian society the elites have planned. One day many of them will be on the receiving end of state power.

The United Nations has hired 110,000 people to enforce global censorship. The United Nations! Defund them.

Have you got a link for that please?

cheers!

Defund the U.N. and dozens, perhaps hundreds of NGOs and many other entities, will dissolve with them.

Ahh i hate those queueing outside shops, people waiting obediently. I always make sure to complain out loud, no body gives a reaction just sheepisly looking. I lost any hope for any kind of mass reaction. It is not gonna happen, history has 1000s of oppressions to 1 rebellion.

Today is a very significant day – the day of “The Christmas Star” event – the apparent alignment in the night sky of Jupiter and Saturn, something that has not occurred since the 12th Century. This also happens, strangely, upon the shortest day of the year winter solstice.
Many will be seeing this event as an awakening against the tyranny and satanic appetites of governments, science and media. The human experience is not that of the virus news, smartphones and deliberate lies but that of humble enlightenment. Simply ignore the rules and resist in numbers the government are running scared.

Somewhat appropriately there is miserable low cloud and drizzle forecast for the next few days in the UK. We won’t be seeing anything.

For those of us who believe in such things it isn’t something that needs to be seen. Just felt.

spooky mumbo jumbo is so comforting isn’t it. Much better than fucking reality.

Posted this before.

Winter Solstice at Lulworth Cove.

The Cove is only a few thousand years old, but it looks like it has been there forever.

The Sun has been arround essentially forever, and is worth worship on that basis alone.

Cheers

The stars are there whether you see them ir not.

Yeah, and it’s raining here tonight and I forgot to look last night.

It should get better now and also the days will get longer.

… strangely , upon the shortest day of the year winter solstice.

Brave, criticising the Creator in these times.

Excellent post!

The Sky at Night will be there.

This morning’s meeting of the EU will possibly confirm an indefinite ban on all travellers from the Septic Isle.

Is this perhaps the opening salvo in the War of the Brexit Secession?

Fish as casus belli have, it would seem, been relegated to their wet slab.

Now the lying incompetents have managed to cut off our food supplies.

Brilliant

Don’t worry- most of what is in the news and most of the posts on this website are fake – I’m out of here as we are being lied to constantly

Bye.

Where is ‘here’ ? Your bedroom?

Out of interest whom do you consider fake? I know i consider Bono and Manly P Hall to be fake but who else

Right about the news, wrong about the posts here.

Entirely predictable reaction from various European governments; the EU itself is, of course, far to cumbersome to have taken a lead itself.

BBC Radio 4. Macron quarantines UK on back of new mutation. Food supplies will be hit.

Will anyone wake up?

Had my stocks in months ago and have been replenishing frequently.
I even bought a spare tin opener just in case.

I have very full cupboards and shed. But had been waiting til tomorrow to get the veg in for Xmas day. Anyone got any spare roasties?

Get ready for ration books.

D’ye know, I gotta sorta feeling that the Eggsperts are about to discover that the Screamage Mutant Covvie Virus is much less dedli than previously thought.
If they want to go on eating, that is.

Even the Chief Dandelion in Ireland (Luke O’Neill of Trinity College Dublin – he of the video shared last month where he was on a Zoom call with secondary school students advocating permanent masks and tracking bracelets) has said that this mutant strain is likely to be nothing significant relative to what is already there.

I am so surprised that mutant strain is automatically a negative = more deadly.
This is just govt/MSM scaremongering for whatever reason.
Read further than the headline and they admit, nothing is known yet and there are very strong indicators it is actually less dangerous!

I have made this country my home, but I find it more and more difficult to stay here, with Brexit as well. I think I can relate to refugees and how hard it is to give up on your country, friends and a live you are accustomed to, but to stay sane and physically well, there is no choice but to leave and find refugee somewhere else.

By the way, are refugees in the camps at Calais changing their mind about coming here?

Channel 4, tonight at 11.05pm Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Virus.

The European Medical Agency announced on the 9th December that it’s confidential data about the Pfizer ‘vaccine ‘ had been hacked

They declined to say what date the hacking occurred

On 8th December the Pfizer share price started dropping and has been dropping every day since

On Friday 18th December the EMA announced it would give a briefing about the ‘vaccine’ on Monday 21st

Mutant virus appears on 18th

Who did the hacking?

Go figure

Russia being amed for cyber attacks in the US. With Biden in it will always be Russia, Iran or North Korea.

So my bet is they blame one of those three

Interesting. Had not heard this.
Do you have a handy link?

Scotland’s most thick and gullible woman posts on Twitter
Nicola Sturgeon on Twitter: “It’s now imperative that PM seeks an agreement to extend the Brexit transition period. The new Covid strain – & the various implications of it – means we face a profoundly serious situation, & it demands our 100% attention. It would be unconscionable to compound it with Brexit.” / Twitter

Sturgeon has proven she will kill for her NWO handlers. She will ignore the votes of millions of people and just demand they do what she wants. Pure evil is what these people are. Thy don’t believe in Democracy and are straight up Nazi’s. The Scottish Nazi Party need a lesson in what happens to people who ignore the rights of others just because they lost.

Nuremberg for starters.

Sturgeon is so think she thinks nuclear weapons are ‘bad’ because they ‘kill people’. Only a complete moron can’t see that nukes have actually been the best thing that’s happened to the world in military terms since WWII – precisely because they ‘kill people’ they mean they will never be used and smaller wars between big nations won’t start, i.e. MAD. It actually pains me that the most important person in Scotland can’t figure this out.

These “police men” who are acting like fascists on the streets of London make me want to puke blood. They’re not British, they’re not keeping us safe they are scum, traitors, a threat to humanity and working for the NWO,
Hey John P and the other suspect contributors how do you explain this? Is it just incompetence or is it a plan? Your position is the pigs are only there to keep the public safe but were forced by the bad protesters to act like the fucking SS. Lets not be having any of this fucking nonsense any more that it’s a just a giant fuck up. This country along with all the other western nations have been taken over, the leaders of our countries and bought and paid for traitors. They are leading us into death camps. Handcock was at the Bilderberg meeting, Johnstone has a history of fucking young woman and has been bought with cash. Cunts like John Major and Tony Blair sold us out to these people, signing treaties and dumping cash. They are gonna keep us locked up forever. I can’t believe the police are on their side, no wait i can, sorry i was forgetting they’re run by the common purpose people. The only hope we have is the Army, are they gonna be on the side of these foreign agents or will they defend these islands. Off course they’re on their side. The Queen sits on her throne with no crown, our country is being destroyed, the people are being murdered, our wealth stolen and Johnstone, Sturgeon and the like must be obeyed. We really are in a fight for our lives. No wait, sorry it’s all jut a fuck up and there is no plan say the likes of John P and the other lying tossers trying to hide in plane sight

I agree you are either in the Resistance or a collaborator .
Lots of columnists banging on and the recovery group etc but let’s get them to lead a march and stand up on the street in public to those bullying cowards in uniform.

I have a lot of respect for the police, my father in-law is a retired copper and a bloody good bloke he is but these days he wouldn’t get in all they want are barely educated drones unable to think for themselves and prepared to square in their own minds horrendous actions by acting on orders of a tyrannical government.
Same goes for the Army. Brave men and woman prepared to put their lives on the line for Britain now under the command of foreign agents implementing the NWO.

Biker – We need a name for those of us in the Resistance Movement. Any suggestions? This must feel a lot like the French Resistance felt in wartime France and those in the former Communist countries etc.

Resistant Elm? I’ve just planted one, developed in Paris but what the hell.

We need a Tooting Liberation Front and a Wolfie Smiff.
Classic TV. They don’t make ’em like that any more.

I remember it but it came out in the late 1970s, when Wolfie already seemed a bit anachronistic. He was held up to gentle mockery although some other parts of the media were playing up the “Red threat” well into the 1980s. The opening has him calling out “power to the people!” and just a couple of kids are watching him silently. The message is, nobody is listening.

Ah yes. All very true.
And a lone revolutionary is hardly what is required here.
But classic comic TV all the same, of a type we will never see again…
Do you remember Tucker who worked in the Mexican restaurant??!

I remember the episode when they had a tank in the garage…

As veteran I have to agree about the state of the Armed forces. These are not e man ( and women) I met during my time and who shared their cigarettes’ and Mars bars with me on cold nights in Helmand. I can guarantee that ALL of those would be and are 100% against this shit show but the higher ups are horribly in bed with these scummbags.

Isn’t most of the ‘fighting’ nowadays done in front of a screen directing drones?

Surely tier 4 scandal is one step too far for dictator Boris, time for him and Matt to be ousted.

This does seem to be descending into a ludicrous Whitehall Farce, the Sun is reporting terrifying new ‘outbreak numbers’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13533485/worst-hit-coronavirus-hotspot-highest-jump/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly
It was not clear what is so terrifying? there do not seem to be dead bodies piling up on street corners, the hospitals are busy but it is winter time in the wet UK, perhaps they are just terrified of big numbers?
Most of my life there has been some sort of cold or flu doing the rounds in the winter time people all over the country caught it and we shrugged our shoulders said ‘there is a lot of it about’ and carried on. This year we have got the Wuhan Cold going round, why all the fuss? lots of people catching it like they always do when a new version of the cold goes around. The death rate is nowhere as high as in some bad flu years.
No wonder that people talk about there being more to all this than meets the eye.

It’s time that every Virus broadcast- take your pick, Covid-19, or the Bollocks Virus- had the ‘expert’ linked to a lie detector that we can view in real time. You want our trust, Boris? Earn it.

There are certain words that cannot co-occur in the same sentence. Turdgeon and human. Dungford and sane. Boris and trust.

Sodium Pentothal (Sodium thiopental). It’s just a little jab Boris..

Protest report in the Bournemouth Echo.
Loads of vaccine averse information so it’s probably the end of Apprentice Reporter Maya George’s career.

I live not far from Bournemouth and have mentioned on here a certain mp, related to there.

A series of posts I made yesterday on here, in which I mentioned a “job” and “rank” that mp has, in a slightly rude joking response to someone, disappeared and I couldn’t find it for love nor money and posted to that effect yesterday.

I also posted a reminder about it today and it has now reappeared significantly changed in that it appears that I am replying to different poster IDs (including myself!) and one of the IDs and the comments made are not there at all!

Worrying!

Seems to me, the government panic the public and that makes things worse, then they do it again and again and again!
Not a big fan of politicians and in my 52 years a fair number have been shown as cheating, lying rogues. But what normally happens is politician says X and a big percentage of the population believe it’s a lie or just that Y is true instead,
Not with covid! All of a sudden the vast majority believe everything that comes out of government without question. Crazy.
Snowflake generation and the first snowflake pandemic in my view.

Can I just say do not underestimate the power of the relentless propaganda fake news and manufactured hysteria being pumped out 24/7 in order to push the narrative. It is on an unprecedented industrial level as is the draconian censorship. It’s relentless, insidious nd soul destroying. We are strong and can counter and question it many are no capable.

Ive uploaded yesterdays Radio 4 interview with Charles Walker here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJluyXUCY2Q&t

thanks

It appears that Exeption 13 is for citizens of other countries to use postal ballots for their own countries elections, as there have been issues with it in past lockdown legislation.

Resign, Boris. And take the cabinet with you.

i wish the queen would flippin well dissolve parliament and get rid of that bumbling ‘potato with a toupee’ and get some grown ups in charge. She and the whole royal family are superfluous to our society going round with patronising visits in fancy masks whilst snug in their state homes paid for by us. They should be worried as once the queen passes on i think there will be serious questions as to their legitimacy and I say this as a previous royalist but this year has changed my mind. The only issue is we would be subject to a presidential system and well we all know how well that works eg usa.

The US system is in theory more foolproof than ours. It’s just that when you get people like the Clintons and Obama stuffing every level of government with their loyalists and activists it becomes disfunctional.

There are presidential systems where the president does not have power to make political decisions.
In Germany the president is more like the Queen, he has representative duties and signs legislation, that is all.

The idea the Queen will do anything for the people is laughable ,she will probably be rolled out in a mask to tell us how we are all in it together. The day can’t come any sooner when we get rid of this dysfunctional Windsor family and with it the house of lords and the scum in parliament .When not if we smash the lockdown we should keep rolling the tanks forward for complete regime change .

Upset The Great Reset.

So ‘Kent covid’ came in quite handy then:

‘France’s travel ban on the UK prompts shutdown at Port of Dover causing long freight queues and supply chain disruptions’

‘”Operation Stack is a procedure that uses parts of the M20 to queue lorries travelling towards the continent, to avoid causing gridlock across Kent’s roads. It is used in emergency situations when crossings to the continent cannot happen, such as bad weather or industrial action.” — Kent.gov.uk’

Remind me, which political issue has just taken over top spot right now?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/the-most-important-issues-facing-the-country

But good negotiating skills…….

Life must be great….without the voters….or parliament…or real questions from the state broadcaster…..

Zeus: “What’s going on now?”
Hera: “They’ve developed a vaccine. They’re going to inoculate the entire population with it.”
Zeus: “They making it themselves?”
Hera: “Nah. Some company in Belgium”
Zeus: “Good luck with that, then. Here:” Snaps fingers. A more virulent strain of the virus appears. The EU closes its borders to the UK.

We don’t need Zeus to create a more virulent strain of the virus, Ferguson and his mates have modelled it themselves. Their new creation probably has an IFR of 20% and is predicated on everyone being vulnerable.

Boris: “I wonder what’s in this box”

“ On Sunday night the Department of Health said it had contingency plans in place to airlift the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines from Belgium to the UK using military aircraft if the freight ban stays in place for longer than 48 hours. “

I sense a Michael Bay film in the offing here.

Sort of Berlin snake oil Airlift?

As long as they don’t start dropping bloody Hershey bars.

EU Air ! Starring Mel GIbson, Bruce WIllis, and John Travolta.

In a way, I’m quite pleased that the ‘mutant strain’ scaremongering has cut us off from the rest of the world. The government have gone too far this time without thinking of the consequences. Maybe this will wake people up and make them realise that the government cannot just make draconian diktats whenever they feel like it, without Parliamentary scrutiny. As I’ve said before, true destruction of our country unfortunately needs to happen before others are personally affected by what is happening this year.

Perhaps the MSM will ramp the fear right up to 100 to ‘justify’ the utter chaos I suspect is about to befall us but I have a feeling that, along with Brexit, this may finally be the tipping point we have been waiting for. It is a moral duty for governments to feed their citizens and keep normal life running and if there are serious food shortages/power cuts etc. as a result of both ‘pandemic’ border closures and Brexit then it’s over for Johnson and co.

Several million of the comfortably WFH crowd will be inconvenienced by house arrest and cancelled Xmas but they will still not suffer financially, yet.

They might start to get a bit panicky if the food starts running out.

Only if it reduces the availability of servants, otherwise they’ll carry on as normal. Birx in USA just the latest.

They will next year.

A lot of pensions and savings are invested in prime real estate which includes swathes of the City of London, Belgravia, Mayfair. The more London becomes a Ghost Town, property values in the areas I mentioned go down even more. Which will mean that pensions and savings will start to lose their value.

And those who are WFH shouldn’t get cocky either. When their companies run through their reserves with nothing coming in, they will be in the firing line for the chop.

This lockdown in the run up to Christmas already has had a massive impact on the festive trade and will also affect the Boxing Day sale season. As a result more businesses will go bust and more jobs will have to go.

Yes, their latest terror tactics have backfired big time.

Their intention is to destroy our lives and livelihoods and kill us off. Their tactics are not backfiring they are working perfectly.

I am afraid it is over for us. Johnston and co enjoy the protection of the police, military and occupying force that is giving the orders. We on the other hands are their targets. We will suffer the unimaginable consequences, they will be ‘fine’ as long as they do as their told.

The same powers will unfortunately control the next government after Boris Johnson’s regime, Kier Starmer looks like a hand picked candidate by the people who control the system. It is always possible the masses might wake up, but as long as they are ‘given’ money by the powers who shouldn’t be they will always blame the resistance. The elites use the media to control populations and there is unfortunately no great switch off.

Clinging to delusional false hope is not going to help to cope with the reality of our situation.

Nor will doom mongering . Only unity and action will save us .

I hold an unpopular opinion it seems. A couple of questions. By what mechanism do you expect it to be ‘over for Johnson and co’? There are no checks and balances to their power in any form that I can see. Do you have any sort of timeline in mind?

I disagree with you that it is over for us. Many of us are not close to even considering giving up. But I agree that the Government and their advisors are effectively untouchable as things stand.

I do not mean to say we should give up. I have two dependants and will fight to the death to protect them and am doing everything in my power to keep them safe and happy.

The belief that we will soon turn some sort of corner and things will start to resolve themselves is not going to help prepare for the magnitude of the collapse that is on its way. A false hope is no hope at all it merely stops you properly preparing and leads to an even greater sense of defeat in the end.

When I say it is over for us I refer to life as we knew it and all the things we have taken for granted. There are no checks and balances left. We have to rebuild from the ground up while the government and our institutions wage a war against us.

What else do you expect us to do? I don’t comply with the diktats wherever I can and I try to lead my life as normally as possible, while educating others and spreading the message. Frankly if you go outside, there are cars on the road and people in the streets just trying to lead a normal life. You wouldn’t know there was a ‘pandemic’ happening were it not for the dirty rags a lot of people wear on their faces.

Having some hope and optimism is frankly making this hell more bearable. Without hope there is no progress.

We can only keep trying to do our best and connect with other sceptics who don’t want to live in fear of other humans. Too many people still believe the distorted view the MSM gives, there is still hope.

Good for you!

I am not saying don’t have hope and optimism. I am saying that if your hope and optimism is derived from an expectation that our government or institutions are going to turn some sort of corner and change direction or that the British public are going to start to see sense and stop co-operating in their own and your destruction then you open yourself up to even more hurt.

We need to think about how we will survive. We need to derive hope and optimism from our progress towards making ourselves more robust and able to cope with what is coming. The hope and optimism needs to be derived from ourselves not our expectations of others. Can we turn rainwater into drinking water? Can we light our homes without the grid? Do we have plenty of food stocked and the ability to grow food? Are we prepared to cope with injuries in the absence of a functioning A&E? Do we have people and ways to trade when the financial system is withdrawn from us? etc etc

All these things require learning and preparation. As we prepare for the worst case(currently appears to be most probable case) we become more resilient and skilled. That is where we should be looking now for hope and optimism in my opinion and that hope cannot then be taken away from you at the drop of a hat(or tweet).

I don’t really have time this morning to form the full reply I would like to. I do wish you all the best of luck to survive what is coming.

Hello

Saved to Death and Poppy are clearly both extremely thoughtful and caring people. Both saying many similar things and a few different ones too.

Sometimes the way we come across in text sounds abrupt and it is not meant. I do it sometimes. I fling my first thought out without empathy. It makes me sound critical.

We are all learning.

Communication is hard face to face, it’s really difficult through these text messages.

I’m really sure we all care deeply for the same reasons and many have some really interesting and differing ways to help move forward.

We will undoubtedly need each other here.

Love to you all, and I mean that

The only people who will save us are the people themselves.It is pointless looking to those in government to save us after all they have put us here in the first place .We need to get out of the ghetto and get our message out to as many people as possible .Leaflets and stickers are the best we can do at the moment and give people hope they are not alone .Only today whilst leafleting a woman rushed out towards us in a state of excitement ,i immediately thought she was pissed off with us but it turned out she was so pleased to find others she could talk to and said please know a friend lives here and would be happy to help .

Poppy you are correct .Self pity and defeat are our biggest enemy . It’s up to us to put forward the anti lockdown arguments by any means necessary and win the majority over to our side . There is no alternative we either die free or die fighting for that freedom there is no other way .

You’re right there, Poppy.

Saved to death I’ve noticed that some of your posts could be interpreted as divisive/critical/negative to the person posting, not just today but other days too. It is important that we don’t turn against each other, as I think we generally are on the same side, even if we have slightly different views on the more nuanced matters. Im not having a go, just explaining my thumbs down.

I hope we can all be open to criticism and I thank you for the explanation. When I criticise a persons opinion it is not intended as a personal attack and I am not turning against them. I am used to having robust discussions with people and I will not shy away from saying something that might be tough to swallow . I would hope as sceptics we are all open to robust discussion and wont shy away from saying things that might be difficult to swallow.

My wish is not to destroy poppies hope but rather to try and help found it on more realistic expectations. Her hopes as expressed above are in my opinion going to lead to hurt when things don’t start to turn around.

I only recall being particularly ‘nasty’ towards Biker in response to some of his replies. I use the word nasty but its not so much my intention. I assume that he is able to take what he often dishes out towards others. Still I am not turning against Biker. I disagree with some of what he says and I agree with most of it. I hope even for him the best luck going forward.

Exactly.
What would replace the Pig Dictator and the Woke Blue party?
The Uber Woke Red Party????

Excellent comment. Thank you.

I hope it wakes people up, I really do.

I think they do know the consequences Poppy. What impeccable timing.

I wonder if this is the “dark winter” they referred to.

Timed also to be on the Winter solstice, more or less, too. And apparently the 21 Dec is supposed to be a major astrological event this year.

I think this is where it really kicks off.

And apparently the 21 Dec is supposed to be a major astrological event this year.

Jupiter/Saturn conjunction. In the south west, just after sunset. (If there are no clouds – UK, December. Ho ho ho.).

“I’m glad they’ve put us in these camps, now people will really realise how bad it’s got and finally start to fight back!”

The description of police behavior at the latest London protest sounds very much like how police act in the US. I am a Caucasian woman, US citizen, and yet my stomach has always clenched in fear when a policeman crosses my path, even though my uncle was a lifelong officer. I protested the Iraq war and witnessed unconscionable police brutality; it is ubiquitous in the US. I am so dreadfully sorry that these kinds of police tactics have been exported.

Don’t blame yourself, it’s been here too for a long while. Dixon of Dock Green they ain’t.

The Police are no longer on the side of the public in any way shape or form.
probably a bit better in the USA out in the sticks

The police still trade on a romantic past. No one should be under any illusions at all…THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND. They are now just state enforcers nothing less. I applied to to join them back in 1976 as a cadet….Thank god Denis Healey scotched that one with his IMF spending cuts!

Ahem… The Great Barrington Declaration continues to offer a route out of this.

How do I get to submit an article for LS??? There are things being missed and we are not taking action together – that is what is needed. It is no good just reading every morning and moaning; we’ve got to do something and I have the answer which is within the law. I’ve taught research methods for 4 decades up to doctoral level, btw.

lockdownsceptics@gmail.com

Keen to hear what your method is too and how I can get involved.

Shortest day today. So from tomorrow the days are getting longer again. There you are. That’s my cheerful thought for the day.

I had the same thought. It always cheers me up to know we’re at least a little bit closer to summer. It’s about the only thing to cling to as a bit of good news at the moment.

March is statistically snowier than December.
At least the days are longer tho

Our core message remains stronger than ever.

Let there be light.
And there will be light.

But westward, look, the land is bright.

At least the plan to have Christmas on 21st June has come to nothing (so far). Thousands of years of celebrating the return of the sun survive for now.

Yup just an hour from now we’ll be on the way back to Summer. Nice thought.

A quick scan of comments across the MSM this morning. More talk about disobedience then there has been during the past nine months. Hope this comes to something.

I wonder how the sheep are going to react when they realise they are going to be locked up in full lockdown until May?

They will initially blame non mask wearers and “people not following the rules”, but I have a feeling that even these propaganda addled fools will soon start turning their ire on the government.

My instinct tells me that things are about to turn extremely nasty.

Agree. What will turn them I suppose is when economic reality hits them in the face or if they develop some sort of serious illness then learn they will have been put way, way back at the queue for treatment because the NHS is still allocated for Covid.

Me too. The coming larger tsunami of bankruptcies and redundancies will help turn the mood really ugly after the New Year.

Oh Panda, I do hope so.

Unfortunately some of us have been saying this since March.

Anyone who has children knows that hungry quickly becomes hAngry.

I spoke to an elderly lady the other day I hadn’t seen in a while. She’s been self isolating and afraid throughout. I felt angry that she’d been reduced to this fear riddled mess.
But, even she, fear captured by the media, was in agreement that they need to be held to account for their actions and the lockdowns were a disaster.

‘”Out of Control”‘

I truly thought this headline referred to Matthew ‘The Prefect’ Hancock and the rest of the Covid Fundamentalists presiding over these disastrous and monstrous restrictions/attacks on our lives and livelihoods.

When will this nightmare end!

Great thread from Bob Moran. Please forward to those who are scared of life.

1. Many people are saying that they are not spending Christmas with family as it is “not worth the risk”. In order for a person without coronavirus symptoms to “kill their Granny” this Christmas, a very specific chain of events has to occur. But how likely is it? (Source: https://threader.app/thread/1340736349612195848 )

Fantastic thread

I think a great many people are not spending Christmas with family because they either can’t be bothered or have got used to the ‘new normal’ of social isolation. Its encouraging indifference within the masses.

People have made plans and many of them have not seen their families for the best part of the year so they’re going “sod the government.”

This should only be encouraged even more as to wake up more of the sheep.

Bob Moran restores my faith in humanity

With the ports blockaded the government are guaranteeing vaccine supplies by using the army to airlift it from Belgium. They have just raised the spectre of food supply problems! Idiots. That’s not going to cause a run on the supermarkets is it? What with all these altruists wearing masks for the benefit of others… they’ll be buying toilet rolls to give to neighbours. Anyhow, thank god the vaccine’s guaranteed and Johnson has his priorities right… who needs food? Just as long as we’re alive.

Even with food shortages being warned, I think the extent of thinking employed by the masses will equate to “We can still have a turkey on Christmas Day yeah?”

https://khub.net/documents/135939561/338928724/SARS-CoV-2+variant+under+investigation%2C+meeting+minutes.pdf/962e866b-161f-2fd5-1030-32b6ab467896?t=1608470511452

These are the minutes from the NERVTAG meeting about the mutant also in the update.

Nothing dramatic as such. In the end conclusions, “not certain etc,moderate confidence”

Most ironic quotation (perhaps best proof of the public health fiasco since 9 months)

“It was noted that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during a period when national lockdown measures were in place.”

So another one will work?

But I think we can see that it was the politicians and not SAGE/NERVTAG which did the spin this time and has the whole responsibility for ensuing border closures, panic and everything that follows. Iain Duncan Smith as quoted in LD is wrong.Don’t blame SAGE/Nervtag seeing these rather tepid minutes.It is your fellow politicia now spinning this which are resposible 100 % in this latest fiasco(and owning it).

They are the decision makers after all.

These figures are from Israel ,which has a younger population, but suspect that similar figures would not be very far off in the UK. Why don’t we prioritise only home/longterm residents now?

https://www.ariehkovler.com/2020/12/a-little-vaccine-goes-a-long-way/

“These estimates are from Israel, but striking: vaccinate the 0.5% of people over 90, and total fatality risk drops 19%. Vaccinate the 2.5% over 80, and it falls by half. Vaccinate the 7.5% over 70, and it drops by 3/4. Age skew remains under appreciated.”

This is exactly the kind of solution level headed people are putting forward. Mass vaccination in not required. The GBD kind of approach

The government failed to predict a European travel ban – only a couple of weeks after we banned Danes because of the supposedly highly infectious mink mutation. Clearly our government thinks everyone is a stupid as they are.

Grant Shapps on the Today Programme

“. . . Of the 11 people who tested positive to the new mutant virus, none of them were ill and that’s the problem! They will be asymptomatic and moving around because they won’t know they’ve got it.”

Sounds like what the Pfizer ‘vaccine’ will do.

Is that a direct quote? So nobody has even got symptoms? This is beyond ridiculous

Surely false positive?

Yes, I heard that too. Laughed at the radio. So we have a mutant virus that is so dangerous it doesn’t cause any symptoms in the vast majority of carriers. But the inference to be drawn from this is not ‘thank goodness’, but that we are all invisible disease carriers. Sick.

And to think that Grant Shapps is cousin to Mick Jones of The Clash. Fact (according to wiki anyway).

Shush! A lot of money has been spaffed at that vaccine. Don’t go giving people ideas about natural herd immunity now! Nadine has told you: herd immunity does not exist. And she’s a nurse.

I speculated yesterday that the mutant strain bollocks was their plan for a way out. I think they are so desperate, that this might actually be all they’ve got left.

The problem is they have overegged the fear pudding and now our food supply has been cut off.

Just a minor problem

So why is no one in media asking the screamingly obvious question: “Doesn’t it mean they are just not ill?”. Couldn’t be they have been bought off, could it?

Incredible that someone in that position can go on the tv and express concern that people are not ill, and nobody in the media questions the lunacy of that.

Genuine question:What is the 77th brigade?

do you not have wikipedia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/77th_Brigade_(United_Kingdom)

you know when they talk about thousands of russians or chinese sitting on computers influencing us elections etc . This is “our” version .

So where all the pro lockdown posts on twitter and facebook come from . squaddies and bots controlled by them

Thanks mjr, I’ll ask Alexa.

you might get straight through to them that way

Ha ha!

She’ll probably tell you it’s a conspiracy theory and that you should immediately take some mind bleach.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/british-military-information-war-waged-their-own-population

PJW: Righteous anger:

https://youtu.be/SM9Pfba4Kqw

Be angry. Be outraged.

Maybe I have a soft spot for Boris but I wonder if he is trying to reach out to the masses by telling them that he is being controlled? I mean why else would you describe something as “inhuman” and then do exactly that? Unless he is admitting to being something other than human .

Because you’re a complete twat?

To be clear, I mean Johnson, not you

thanks for clearing that up

I’ve said it all along – aliens are now calling the shots. Global warming did for their own planet, apparently.

No, it was a plague of telephone sanitisers.

My bet is the new mutant ninja virus will have, miraculously, become considerably less infectious by the end of the day….

fingers crossed…

The whole thing is insane. This strain is already known to be in other countries ie Italy. Do we think North Macedonia, Romania or Greece bother about genomic sequencing on a scale as in the UK? There are 12000 variants around. We don’t need to wait for C-20, we now just pick one of the 12000 and start the lockdown madness every time we want. This own goal by the UK gov is a black farce. If they worried about the spread from London, Kent they surely got it spread rapidly through the whole country looking at the pictures from Paddington. The Italian March solution just repeated. Incredible stupidity at all levels

Yes, but behavioural science is one of brand Britains great exports, or so Boris and chums seem to believe.

If there was a pandemic, precipitating the panic we saw in London would be a disastrous idea.

At least by Wednesday, mid morning.

the common cold often is

My bet is that it will be just like the 4000 number. “70% more infectious? Oh, did we say that? Whoops, typo, it was actually 7%! Ah well, we’ve gone to the trouble of putting millions under house arrest, would be hugely disruptive to reverse that now…”

Maskmandate Florida. Counties no mandated versus mandate.
Look at the curves. Almost parallel. Constantly higher with masks. These same results are seen in multiple locations. Somebody in public heath should seriously consider to make masks voluntarily again as something serious must have happened when they were mandated. Most likely the now majority of mask wearers are thinking they are protected and doing something contrary to other recommendation be it constantly touching the masks, closer distance etc.

They’ll just mark it off as non compliance. We’ve entered the twilight zone now. No amount of graphs seem to make a dent in the demand for more lockdown

And they are demanding it. People want this. It’s insane.

Deflating the croney Coroney system is now the only option.
Acceleration is the key to this

it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. The governments of the world are desperate to fabricate evidence to prove masks work but none of them have succeeded. The U.K’s infection curve since masks were worn is a shining beacon of how they don’t work. Also Germany – compare the “first wave” when they didn’t wear masks with the current situation now masks are mandated.

Do you have a source for this please? I’d like to send it to some wavering friends, and it always looks better with a source.

https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1340727406126977026

Your graphs are pro-lockdown propaganda

Unbelievable

Heard of a lady in Switzerland, ill for 4 weeks with dry cough and heavy chest. 3 GPs in non-face-to-face consultations told her it’s a cold. Finally went to specialist clinic (holistic approach) to be diagnosed with 2 fungus infections in lung and organs.
Doctor says it came from her face covering.
Source Bittel tv telegram feed.

Offificial: “Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves” joins Die Hard as an unexpected Christmas film thanks to the Alan Rickman’s immortal line, “And call off Christmas.”

What about merciful beheadings? And kitchen scraps for widows and orphans?

Something to do with a spoon … ?

When has a virus ever been controlled?

Should we lockdown because the clouds and the wind need controlling?

Excellent I was thinking of using the tides and the setting and rising of the sun – but clouds and wind – great! thanks.

bring back Canute he’ll sort itt. He’ll command it. What kind of powers does Doris have to think he can control it. He cant control his own penis ffs.

Indeed, that is the strange thing about this. Doctors and scientists who seriously believe that you can micromanage a virus.

Well it’s similar to the climate change thing. The biggest causes of global warming are the sun and the clouds. As they can’t control that the zealots focus on CO2.

I bet they’d shut out the sun if they could.

They are already trying to do that. They have plans to spray millions of tonns of crap into the upper atmosphere to block out the sun to cool down the planet.

Bill Gates is working on that too.

Torygraph:

“Matt Hancock said on Sunday that Britain faces a “very difficult” few months, warning that the spread of the virus across swathes of England is now “out of control”.

Bloody good! If it’s out of control it means it’s doing what every other virus has done over millennia and is burning itself out.

All the mad scientists thinking they could control nature like a gaggle of ‘Strangeloves’
can pack up their Mystic Meg gear, and fuck off home with the white cat.

No point in any of the tangled web of laws and lockdowns, we’re back to where we were with the last big one – all of three winters ago. Some of the nearly dead will die, and some of us will be at home with man-flu for a couple of days. The wives will be particularly nasty about this and flounce around a bit but that will be the only dangerous time. Oh …. and you may even be allowed to go to the pub on the way home from the match on Saturday as a reward for having to visit her mother in deepest Essex on the Sunday. Hard life, innit?

They said give us three weeks. We got this.

If this was a job interview I don’t think SAGE would be getting the nod

The virus has never been “under control”. There was a pandemic which finished in April. It is now a seasonal virus which will fade in spring, regardless of whether we vaccinate or not.

If we’re “getting flak, we must be over the target”. Free Speech is a concept unknown in parts of Surrey as our anti-Lockdown leaflets are clearly hitting some raw nerves – see pic.

To join the rapidly growing organised groups of sceptics across the UK, peacefully hand delivering our well-reasoned postcard leaflets please visit Back to Normal (my-sgf.co.uk) and get out there to counter the MSM narrative

That is if you are feeling “dangerous and irresponsible” !

burn them! jeepers, ‘dangerous and irresponsible’ I mean what ever next eh?

any more info or names on the ‘waverly’? who owns it?

In Germany virologist Drosten says he thnks that the ‘new variant’ is already in the country. Apparently it has been ‘confirmed’ in Italy.

They’ve all got the memo now.

Luckily he also says he does not think it is dangerous or “more dangerous”.

Caught by a traffic speed camera.

Well done Hancock, you’ve finally torpedoed us good and proper. You absolute sausage.

Bang go the independent hauliers.

Yep. I’m beginning to think that we should give up our nuclear weapons – they would probably aim wrong and destroy London [hmm, maybe we should keep them after all!].

it’s all over, Doris must have called the EU and told them that its not real we were just doing it to scare the locals. My take is that its setting the scene for no deal, they want to be able to blame the virus to either back pedal commonly know as the Johnson U-ey or in the event that the deal sadlidies, and there is chaos at Dover and all the other ports they can blame the evil variant. As I type this I am thinking these cunts in government are creating this like a script for a book for 9 year olds. Hancock has the intellect of an amoeba. Fuck off and die you bastards

They were only meant to blow the bloody doors off now they’ve made us a pariah state.

From the anti terrorism legislation:

Terrorism: interpretation.
(1)
In this Act “terrorism” means the use or threat of action where—

(a)
the action falls within subsection (2),
Yes
(b)
the use or threat is designed to influence the government [ F1 or an international governmental organisation] or to intimidate the public or a section of the public, and

(c)
the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious [ F2 , racial] or ideological cause.

(2)
Action falls within this subsection if it—

(a)
involves serious violence against a person,

(b)
involves serious damage to property,

(c)
endangers a person’s life , other than that of the person committing the action,

(d)
creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public , or

(e)
is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system

Does this mean that the TSG/ metropolitan police are acting as terrorists
Also parts of the British Government and specifically their advisers.

Absolutely. They’re unlikely to nick themselves for it, mind.

This is now beyond parody.

It’s time to use ridicule – mercilessly.

Ridicule and revulsion contributed to the downfall of Mosley and his blackshirts (latterday TSG perhaps).

Direct your anger by laughing at them.

Isn’t it odd that we now seem to have our very own British/English/Kentish mutant virus. Only us apparently. Seven billion people on the planet and something terrifying has popped up in Penge. Really odd.
And at Christmas too. Who’d have thought it?

Penge mutant? Give it a rest. What bunch of muppets thought that one up?

This IS beyond parody.

My kids (18 and 20) told me last night their Instagram feeds were inundated with parody memes about the Tier 4 lockdown and the ‘mutant strain’. The young people, who anecdotally have been ignoring the restrictions for months, are now openly mocking the government and their ‘scientists’. Good.

The kids have been for months. The worst age groups seem to have been 20 somethings to 60 somethings. Working age. Funny isn’t it?

Some of us more independent thinking adults have been coming up with ‘rona jokes for months.
‘What’s the difference between lockdown and a horror film? At the end of the film the lights come back on!’

Tell your kids to keep at it.

The likes of your kids are our best hope against the more compliant millenials.

Keep up the good work.

Well in ‘Quatermass and the Pit’ an alien spacecraft was discovered in a London tube statiom.

So, heck, why not?

Aha, but who knows what awful Covvisatanic rites are enacted every day in Penge?

Dr Vernon Coleman

URGENT News about the Covid-19 Vaccine

https://brandnewtube.com/v/haLXfJ

https://www.vernoncoleman.com/main.htm

Link to Anaphylaxis Following m-RNA COVID-19 Vaccine Receipt report

Anaphylaxis in US Following COVID-19 Vaccination

112,807 doses 3150 health impact reports – unable to perform daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional.

Amazingly bad and should lead to an immediate halt of the EUA in the UK.
How long ago was it that the woman from the MHRA was holding forth about all the rigorous safety checks they had undertaken to ensue it was safe?

Don’t allow her to leave the country.

It’s on days like this that I am most glad I am a sceptic.

Just think if you were one of those poor souls who ahtually believes the official narrative. You would be soiling your pants at the thought of ‘new variants’ etc.

Feeling good today The dynamics of social mood are such that the quicker we reach peak fear the quicker the pendulum will begin to move against the government.

Best Wishes all and chins up!

Well said, my chin is well up, I am so glad I’m not a zombie!

Annie, may I suggest you start to write some serious articles for some of these alternative media outlets ? For example on ‘why’ we should carry on, and ‘how’. For example using the Lord of the Rings as guidance?

Um… willing to try…

Did you see Lord Sid’s post late last night, Annie? He named you (and Biker) as particularly cheering him up. His post is most inspiriting: he is elderly, has been ill, but is doughty and unbowed.

I’ll look him up.

it’s as if we’re almost in the Gina Miller/Supreme Court phase of COVIDballs.They are running out of cunning stunts.

Do you think Boris is going to extend the Brexit deadline, and he needed this as his excuse?

I voted leave but all Brexit is now is another excuse to create chaos and cause harm while blaming the British public. I don’t think they will extend the deadline I think they have managed to land it where they want.

Dover is a minute part of our imports, more like Micron trying to distract his mess

It’s a relevant part of our imports – food.

No it’s not minute. 22% of all EU imports and exports go through Dover.

No

Yes to an extension; no to needing any excuse: they just do what they want!

Phoney Coroney is about reversing 2016 by the Davos elite
Trump
Brexit

Yes, he will extend the deadline for two months, but purely to complete construction of the lorry parks. Then World Trade terms.

The mutant virus has infected the whole of the South East of England

Under the FOMO regulations the Welsh Health Minister minister has announced that the hole of Wales is infected with the new mutant virus

No mutant virus along the the M4 corridor

How did this more than ever infectious mutant strain travel overland for 120 miles without infecting anyone?

Answers on a postcard please

Fear Of Missing Out

‘The hole of Wales’

Is that Drakeford”?

Quantum tunnelling!

The magic of television.

Rapists Dad has really pissed on his chips

Defund all Health Ministries, they are being run by neurotic hypochondriacs.

Snippet from conversation heard sometime in the future:

“You weren’t one of those who fell for that corona nonsense were you”?

“Well, first couple of weeks you know …”

“Ner, was obvious from the start…., come on Fred, I bet you took the vaccine as well, didn’t you”?

I’d recommend staying off Facebook. It’s full on “Covid deniers stole Christmas”.

I’d recommend staying off Facebook anyway.

How do they work that one out?

The same old line: “We’re in lockdown because covidiots don’t follow the rules and don’t self isolate, social distance, and, worst of all, they don’t wear a mask!” And then they go on to complain how the government didn’t do enough and they needed tougher restrictions…

It’s a very weird phenomenon. Most people would say the government is incompetent and not to be trusted. But somehow, most people trust the government and always expect the government to save them. They never question when the government tells them that we need lockdowns and mask mandates.

How do they explain the fact that we are still alive if we did everything they say, even hospital capacity is down

And they’re sounding like a broken record. It’s like my colleague whining at me after it was announced that we were to shut again – “if only people followed the rules” and couldn’t reply when I pointed out that not one of the measures worked.

The irony also is the most rabid lockdownistas I know hate Johnson and the Conservatives. And yet they’re his biggest cheerleaders now.

The mind boggles.

What gets me most about the those not wearing masks being the cause of this rampant virus is, I don’t know about other areas but where I live in Derbyshire nearly everyone is muzzled. I go for a walk in the park to clear my mind and am faced with plonkers masked up and jumping out of my way. I want to scream at them and tell them they are idiots but that would really cause a rift between me and my significant other!. He still thinks Bojo is ‘making mistakes and knows not what he doth’, or however they said it in the bible. Give me strength.

Should be selfish covid fanatics stole a year and caused the deaths of many people with other illnesses when they demanded that saving one covid life was all that mattered

Twitter’s the same. All social media is the same. Anyone going against the narrative is shadowbanned. They cannot allow the skeptics to find eachother and unite forces. Divide and conquer.

I adore winding them up tho.
Luckily I have at lease 4 Facebook profiles and about 15 Twitters

Excellent work. How exactly is it our fault that their favoured strategy isn’t working (again)?

Does anyone know about a ban on UK tourists to Switzerland from the 1st January? – I’m supposed to be skiing with a group of friends in the new year….

It’s not looking good Major. It wouldn’t surprise me.

yep, just spotted this, ” UPDATE: UK nationals will no longer be able to travel to Switzerland for tourism purposes from 1 January 2021. Please consult the Embassy’s Brexit FAQ for further details and exemptions.”

https://www.eda.admin.ch/london

Could you make it a business trip?

looking for a conference in Geneva that might be important for our businesses going forward, cough…

not sure tourism business research will cut it, maybe Calchas could give us covering letters…..

Funding for a new loo roll start up?

excellent

looking to import cuckoo clocks maybe??

I have got an idea, it’s can’t fail:

Covid safe fondu sets.

A cover over the pot with a special battery operated dipping/twirling/bread delivery system that ensures that each diners get their portion of cheesy bread OK but will ensure that no double dipping will ever occur.

Just think, “ordinary” fondu sets are lethal as they are right now in their current iteration and everybody loves a fondu once every few years when they “find” their fondu set at the back of the cupboard after a “big tidy up”.

This could be a game changer!

genius….

oh hang on…. does the heat of the cheese not destroy the virus?

Post Covid 19 Stockholm Peace Summit

Long, broken up, in French & English MUST WATCH

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=883712409107354&ref=watch_permalink

As we have all been so bad and NOT doing as we are told, apparently enough to lock us down again, we should all really be dead or dying, but as we arent and in fact the hospitals have more capacity than ever, you would think it would resonate with Johnson and Hancock

The premise of this Fascism has been ‘asymptomatic’ transmission. Another non-science claim by the Covid Religion. 10 million were studied in China. 0 – Zero – None – spread anything asymptomatically. So follow the science. End the bloody lockdowns. 99.7% survival rate. Protect those who die from the flu (+75, existing conditions, weak immune systems). https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/20/covid-19-study-of-almost-ten-million-finds-no-evidence-of-asymptomatic-spread-media-quiet/

It’s the basic lie. Without this one the whole of lockdown, track&trace, masks, fear of one another would vanish.
If we have any hope, it lies in educating people of this fact.

Bob’s thread should seal the deal for anyone with an open mind. Even assuming that asymptomatic transmission exists! Chances of being infected if you’re asymptomatic = 0.87%, multiply by probability of infecting someone = 0.7%, multiply by IFR = 0.5% (almost certainly way too high), giving a 1 in 3 million chance of killing someone with your “selfishness”. But the 0.87% figure is based on PCR, and only 3% of those positives are real. So it’s 1 in 30 million. Even if asymptomatic transmission happens at the same rate as symptomatic.

The same people who are terrified of taking a 1 in 30 million risk are praying every week that they win the lottery.

End the lockdowns. Get out of people’s lives.

Surely now, with imminent food and I suspect, fuel shortage, people will wake?

My husband is still in denial. I’m poorly today and he is asking if I think it’s Covid… “no it’s just a gastric bug or the mackerel pate!”

I’ve asked him to fill up both cars with diesel and buy some extra macaroni for our daughter. We will see what happens.

We definitely do not have enough food for mega food shortages.

Nobody can, CM. I can’t go along with the concept that the closing of ports is an unforeseen consequence. This has been predictable for many months, in early March I told my street to start to grow their own food. Certainly one of them tried, but – what a strange coincidence – slug pellets were removed from sale from the beginning of 2020 and they had no crops. Growing food without slug pellets is almost impossible even for the experienced grower.

Got to speak up for the ‘hogs here – No it’s not impossible to grow crops without slug pellets, otherwise human civilisation wouldn’t have got off the ground! Had a great crop of veg this year and not a slug pellet or dead hedgehog in sight.

Cabbage Whites on the the other hand…

I don’t believe they kill hedgehogs, its just part of the psyops, how the hog charities have been funded. Other things kill the hoggies. I wasn’t talking about 8000 years ago, I was talking about growing food today on a heavy clay soil. and just think of all that hunger that could have been avoided had they been able to control slug numbers better.

As for those caterpillars, I have a set of brushes, dustpan and brush type brushes. Time-consuming but surprisingly effective.

There is going to be loads of little hedge-pigs getting snagged up in face nappies and dying of starvation/thirst.

The little buggers get trapped in crisp bags all the time. They go in there for a lick of some salt and vinegar then they get trapped in the bags by their spines. A horrible way to go.

Other things do kill hedgehogs. I learned this year that dehydration is a bad one for them.

Slug pellets kill anything that eats slugs though.

Cars squash the poor buggers.

How do you dispose them?

Quite, Jake. The hot summer meant I saw fewer slugs than for at least 10 years.

C’mon, Rosie, slug pellets are bad, mmmm’k ?

It’s all very pre-meditated from my angle although I think it will take some sustained empty shelves for people to question what’s happening. If they ever will. People cannot conceive of a government doing this on purpose.

There’ll be a lot of pressure to wear masks, to be fearful, to judge others. I’m not looking forward to going out maskless shopping. I was fine with it before.

Out of interest, do you think those in open totalitarian governments just pretend to love their rulers / party. I can’t get my head around why anyone would think this is done for the greater good.

I successfully “treated” my slug problem by going out late evening with a torch and find all the baby slugs and parents and – yes – snipping them into halves with scissors.

What a king soul you are!

Wow…

The Health Secretary said people in Tier 4 areas should behave as if they are infected in order to combat the new variant of the disease which spreads quicker than its predecessor.

“Look, we don’t have enough sick people to scare anyone, so can you please pretend you’re infected? Great, thanks!”

Another one to the list:

A virus so deadly that:

1. You have to take a test to know you have it.
2. They have to force you to take a vaccine.
3. And you have to pretend you have it.

Wancock should behave

Which means if I believe I’m infected then 10 days later I’ll be immune.

No, because the rules are you can never win.

In other news, this looks excellent in Ireland. Human rights upheld: the right to work. HR lawyers involved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bl_byrne/status/1340947093293309954

Testing Passports
there were some posting yesterday relating to the contract invitations which were posted by the government procurement team for work on passports
This twitter was linked
The tweet also linked to the full contract

This is an extract of the relevant info

a. DHSC is planning to deploy negative Covid-19 test certification minimum viable product, to enable workplaces, educational centres, health and social care services and places of business to open to members of the public who have tested negative for COVID-19 within a specified timeframe in addition to other criteria.

b. As part of developing the negative Covid-19 test certification minimum viable product, the Supplier has been requested to provide a Minimum Viable Product to allow trials to take place to enable members of the public to show negative COVID Test status evidence electronically as soon as possible.

c. Upon completion of the Minimum Viable Product Services, DHSC may award a further contract to a supplier to provision the technology developed by the Supplier. This Minimum Viable Product Commercial Agreement does not guarantee the Supplier any future work or orders from DHSC relating to the Minimum Viable Product Services. The award of any further contracts relating to the Minimum Viable Product Services is subject to approvals of the Minimum Viable Product, the business case and funding .

So para a is saying that DHSC do want a covid passport. However they want someone to scope out the requirements, see what can be built and delivered in reasonable time (what they refer to as the MVP – minimum viable product) so that a pilot can take place based on this (para b) . DHSC will then review this MVP and see how it stacks against the requirements and business case and then if it is feasible, take it to the next stage and authorise the build.

Note also a search of the contracts site indicates a couple of existing contracts from September to design build and implement a staff digital passport

“Development of the COVID -19 digital staff passport website, onboarding process for users, relevant system integrations, deployment of the COVID -19 solution for up to 225 trusts, support of the COVID -19 solution for and Cloud hosting of the COVID -19 solution” to “enable staff to more quickly transfer between services especially the Nightingales. This supports the COVID -19 response by easing the movement of staff and the onboarding process.”

What is supposed to be the point of a ‘vivid negative’ passport which.will only show that the bearer was, probably, negative at the time of the test ? It is out of date the moment they walk out of the door.

Point taken about the government lying when they say there ‘are no such.plans’.

How does a DBS check guarantee that your employee isn’t a child killer?

It doesn’t. It just adds another senseless, civic society-killing hurdle for the sole reason of employing bureaucrats.

Everything we are seeing at the moment is just the way society has been going for years but on steroids.

DBS check says you haven’t been caught – yet.
Negative test says you haven’t caught it – yet.

When I got my DBS check before I became a trustee for a local playgroup I made exactly the same joke to my wife – ‘I now have a piece of paper in my hands which proves, beyond all doubt, that I have not yet been caught molesting a child’.

It’s a certificate of excellence, really, isn’t it? “He’s an expert child molester, he never gets caught”… Mine was a vintage Enhanced CRB.

In the summer they could use the seasonal nature of the virus to claim lockdowns work. Now we are in winter that fallacy is being exposed as the virus moves around naturally regardless of the measures used. As lockdown is an article of faith however we get the new strain as an explanation. Of course we all know the truth, and perhaps they do to…lockdowns don’t work.

It’s always the same. Rate goes up: “People not following the rules! We need more rules!” Rate goes down: “Our tough but necessary measures are working, we need more of them.” And the one group of people whose job it is to question the government at every step, the media, are not doing their job.

The last lockdown was intentionally positioned alongside already falling numbers. It’s all crap.

But they work very well indeed as a tool for coercion and manipulation. How fiendishly clever.

Complete collapse of the crony Coroney system is now the only exit strategy
Do what ever you can (however small)

I listened aghast at Niall Patterson on Sky with Professor Andrew Hayward, one of the 4 who came up with the cunning plan for Tier 4 and cancelled Christmas. I have to revise my estimation that the NERVTAG and SAGE advisers are second division ‘scientists’. I was far too optimistic.

It’s about time the risibly named ”SAGE” dropped the redundant ”E”. As all the MPs scarpered as soon as they could, in the middle of what they want us to believe is a ”pandemic” which is worsening (!) then it’s obviously not an ”Emergency”.

The words ”scientific” and ”advisory” appear to be questionable too.

I call on Figaro.

One call on Figaro…..

… Every bugger calls on Figaro! Looks like it’s just you and me, Al T.

Carl Henllan talking sense again. The answer to his question lies in the WHO response following Wanlock’s statement they said it wasn’the a new strain they have been tracking it for months and tracking it for months. There was not any evidence that it trand mitted more quickly or was any more dangerous than the current one.

Talking sense except where he says if the new variant really is more easily transmissible, the entire country should be locked down.

He is calling their bluff. This is project fear and they know it.

Hi all – Everybody needs to view this attachment “What is really happening”…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3iK3EIXIfHU

Excellent.

Recommend highly.

But he is qualified to be part of a government who can miraculously micromanage a pathogen.

Hancock – ”…until we have the vaccine rolled out.”

And there we have it all in a nutshell. Manipulation, coercion, oppression, threat, compulsion, intimidation and menace. Have I left anything out?

He must be due to make a shed load from the vaccine

https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2020/11/sage-conflicts-of-interest/

Yep there is your compulsory vaccine

Clare Craig on Talk Radio now. Might be worth a listen.

She was, but Mark Dolan allowed Grant Shapps to pat himself on the back for the amazing things this Gov has achieved and agreed with him. Bet ministers will be queuing up for the next couple of weeks while JHB is away.

Is she away taking the vaccine?

No she is having a baby boom.

Its not lockdown, its an East German theme park

Winner so far today!

What’s the theme? Support your local gulag?

So just after the vaccine is announced, there is a new variant which, we are assured, is far more contagious than the regular one. And just in time for Christmas when this terrifying new variant has “forced” the various countries to impose harsher restrictions on the Christmas schedule.

Just think: at the “festive” season, you have a truly captive audience – not that they were going anywhere anyway! But everyone was building up for Christmas – especially as a relief after 9 months of concerted terror. Ah but that is not to be.

“Look we have this new vaccine! What’s that? You’re backing off? How dare you! Don’t you realise how deadly this illness is? …..Oh OK – then take this: New Variant far more deadly! So what do you think about the vaccine now? ”

Meanwhile the WW2 conditions have also been ratcheted up with lockdown imposed at midnight at the beginning of Boxing Day. Which also, incidentally, has the effect of further concentrating everyone’s attention on the vaccine selling point of the new variant.

And at this point I would find it difficult to understand if anyone out there isn’t starting to suspect that these astonishing manoeuvres have nothing to do with any virus.

I’m not so sure the main purpose is to punish… I think the main purpose of cancelling Christmas is to increase tensions and hostilities between people. Covidiots (aka “lockdown supporters”) are blaming this whole situation on lockdown skeptics, saying that if people would have just surrendered their freedom, this would all be over. Of course, they are wrong. But they are hostile towards skeptics. And now, after seeing their Christmas being canceled, they will probably get downright violent. This may mean that we’ll start seeing something similar to what we saw in the US, with skeptics going out in the street to protest, and covidiots going out to beat them up. And so the crowds not only police eachother, but they give an excuse for even more police presence. And before long, the UK completely turns into an authoritarian police state, with police on every street, stopping everyone, asking for their papers.

Exactly divide and rule
The only option is to work towards complete collapse of the crony Coroney system
Fortunately this can be done surreptitiously

Yes I think you’re right. The new variant has nothing to do with selling the vaccine. (In fact it even renders the vaccine irrelevant since a new variant would logically require a new vaccine). No, the new variant (Covid 2? Super Covid?) is being used as a justification for more draconian Christmas lockdown.

The big issue is: Who swallows TV? Who buys into this now monotone news? Who is bewitched by it and who isn’t?

On the other hand, Hancock has said, “we have got a long way to go to sort this” and it will be “very difficult to keep it under control until we have the vaccine rolled out ”.

So the game has been set. If anyone refuses the vax (as I believe they are still entited to do) then they will be relentlessly ostracized by the Covid faithful. This is going to get very ugly very quickly.

Oh well I shall look forward to some covid zealots getting violent with me. I know who will be coming off worse!

Have been crunching some ONS data from the last 9 months, 2019,2018 on death figures (latest reliable) and have found the need to put things in perspective.

Make what you like of the figures but they are true and we did not plunge Britain into chaos in 2018 did we?

Sorry not listening. Deadly plague, unprecedented threat, Spanish Flu, NHS, second wave, new strain, etc.

I have a question for Tory MPs. After the latest Christmas debacle whether you are a sceptic or a zealot how much more evidence do you need that Boris is unfit for power and why aren’t you clamouring for a vote of no confidence at the earliest opportunity?

Because they’ve all run away to spend a nice comfortable, secure Christmas in decent surroundings, seeing who they want to see, and safe in the knowledge that a nice big wodge of public money will be soon inflating their already over-inflated bank accounts.

I’ve just written to my MP again, to say, among other things, that I can’t wish her happy Christmas as she is complicit in making others UNhappy. She actually PRAISED Hancock for his ”emergy” in doing these things!

Here’s three more ‘S’ words – self serving snake.

Probably all down here in Tier 1 land..

Because nobody wants to put in the knife right now. Let Bozo continue to own the mess and take power later when it’s most advantageous.

NERVTAG is being run by Ferguson

His girlfriends clunge is getting a good run all through lockdown as well

Probably not just by rat features either.

He’s got a lot of nerve.

How do people keep suggesting theme songs? Is there a contact address for Lockdown Skeptics? I can’t seem to find one.

lockdownsceptics@gmail.com

Thanks.

I watched an interview the other day with James Delingpole and some young guy from Spectator USA.. can’t find it anywhere.. talking about great reset.. anyone help?

If you watched it on YouTube, you have a watch history.

FYI – best delete that fren

try CTRL+H in your browser if you’re on a pc (and you weren’t in private mode nor have zapped your history)

It was on the New Culture Forum channel, but YouTube removed the video yesterday.

cheers mate

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6NTk2MjQyNzUyL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M/episode/dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvOTUwMjIzMjA1?hl=en-GB&ved=2ahUKEwj6k6_v997tAhUCJhoKHY_bARkQjrkEegQIBRAF&ep=6

If it was the interview with Peter Whittle on New Culture Forum, I think its been removed. Can’t find it on my watch history or on that channel’s video list

wow…

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6NTk2MjQyNzUyL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M/episode/dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvOTUwMjIzMjA1?hl=en-GB&ved=2ahUKEwj6k6_v997tAhUCJhoKHY_bARkQjrkEegQIBRAF&ep=6 here

These things normally surface on other platforms. (The censorship is not yet complete.) What was it about?

What shits they are.

Is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YCQRG6jZ_c

It was it yes but it says you tube has removed it as it violates their terms of reference. What fascist little cunts they are.

I looked for it again after watching it as wanted to watch it with my partner but it seems to have vanished. It was on ‘counterculture’ by the New Culture Forum. Have U tube pulled it?

Googletube.

New culture forum channel on yt. It’s gone. Of course. He likened the nwo/reset to the worst thing in our lives. Ww3. He’s absolutely sure it’s real, evil and happening now. And he was quite black pilled about whether it’s too late already. I found it impossible to argue with. I knew he’s right, and that’s a horrible feeling. We have psychopathic elites bribing mini-me psychopathic useful idiots to destroy what we love…and reset it with a combination of Orwellian and huxleyian dystopia. We are fucked. There has to be a way to exist without the despair this will bring ….and it’s going to get much much worse. Maybe black pill. Maybe digital hermit, get out, go to ground and nature.

On hospitals:

Heard from a friend that when someone is awaiting a procedure if they test positive they only get the go ahead if they are critical.

What this does is shorten the care curve to a binary decision. So no preemptive care is given.

It’s no wonder that death rates then go up in hospitals and with the added advantage of being labelled a Covid death.

As has been from the start deaths appear to have been due to policy changes and relabelling apples to oranges rather than a real threat of a virus.

How the hell is Boris still PM? How the hell are the MP’s not demanding for parliament to resit?

Got to be in on it.

Because they’re nice and secure and comfortable, a happy Christmas anticipated, able to live their own lives as normal (I’d guess) and with good health insurance (paid for out of public money) for peace of mind, and a decent bank balance topped up with expenses.
Where’s the reason to rock the boat?

From Twitter a couple of days ago

“ This is our beautiful son Jack. During lockdown he was living alone 80 miles away. He lost his job, a month later he split from his girlfriend. He could not see his friends. The help he was getting was not enough. He took his own life yesterday. We loved him so much. 25 years old”

https://twitter.com/wmdore_images/status/1339924921485561858

They make every announcement of increasing measures, with the full knowledge that this is happening.

And they announced they were ruining (some) people’s Christmas on Saturday tea time – just when folk were relaxing, or phoning their relatives about plans, or maybe just getting back from buying stuff in. Calculated to cause maximum distress.
What’s the betting the next shit bomb will be dropped on Christmas day?

The new strain is utter baloney, of course.

Probably posted before, but here is the take of the Recovery Campaign:-

19/12/20
Recovery today challenged Health Secretary Matt Hancock to reveal the details of the strain of SARS COV-19 that he announced on Monday as a new and more infectious mutation, as evidence emerged that those claims may have been seriously misleading.
On Tuesday 15 December, Professor Nick Loman of the Covid-19 Genomics UK (COG UK) consortium, identified the new set of mutations as VUI – 202012/0. He confirmed that it is not new, as COG UK identified it in September, and there is no proof that it is more infectious. As Professor Sharon Peacock, COG Director, pointed out: “We are still dealing with very thin evidence at the moment about this variant.”
Dr Maria van Kerkhove, the technical lead of COVID-19 response and the head of emerging diseases and zoonosis unit at WHO, has also confirmed that the strain involved has been circulating for many months, though she referred to it as N501Y.
Recovery is challenging Matt Hancock to answer these key questions:

• Why did he announce this as a new strain on the eve of the tier review when it appears to have been circulating for several months (and may have existed for months more before it was identified)?
• Why has he made headlines with the news that it’s more infectious when the experts who identified the strain say that we don‘t have evidence for that yet?
• Will he publish the evidence he has for that so his claims can be independently verified?
• In the words of the Washington Post, “At a news conference Monday evening, neither Hancock nor England’s chief medical officer, Chris Whitty, released enough data to help the public understand the significance of the new variant.” Does he now regret the way that this announcement was handled, given that it has attracted international criticism?
• With millions of lives and livelihoods at stake, does he now consider that the statement he made to Parliament about the ‘new’ strain may have been misleading?
• Does he retain confidence in the Government advisers who briefed him on it?
• With even the experts at the World Health Organisation who are responsible for tackling the virus apparently confused by the information that the DHSC has provided over the details of the ‘new’ strain, will he remind his department to prioritise accuracy and the clear communication of the known facts over sensationalist language that makes headlines?

“There is a lot of trivial diversity in the spike protein. Over 20000 variants have been reported,” commented Professor David Livermore, Professor of Medical Microbiology at the University of East Anglia. “What is the hard evidence that this new variant really is so different against this background of great diversity? Apparently VUI202012/0 was first found in September. It’s not clear where it came from or how long it had existed previously. The delay before it expanded doesn’t fit with super-infectiousness. Any variant of SAR COV-19 might expand swiftly because it gets into a part of the country which has had a relatively low prior exposure to SARS-CoV2 – like Kent or East Anglia – rather than because it has any particular biological advantage. As ever, talk of ‘exponential spread’ is misleading. We have now repeatedly seen that as exposure rises, spread slows.”
Jon Dobinson, Campaign Director of Recovery, commented, “The evidence suggests that Matt Hancock may have needlessly terrified millions of people by giving misleading information about a variant of the virus which has existed for months. With millions of lives and livelihoods at stake, it is imperative that the Government is seen to be carrying out a balanced and responsible public health campaign. This looks like irresponsible scaremongering. It increasingly seems as though Matt Hancock and his advisors are carrying out an all-out marketing campaign for harsh restrictions rather than taking a balanced and proportionate approach. It is now clear that he and the Government have been guilty of hugely damaging errors in tackling this virus. Are they trying to sustain the panic to avoid being held to account for the damage they have done? That would be criminally irresponsible, given the damage that their actions are causing. But it is increasingly hard to interpret their actions in any other way.”
ENDS
NOTES TO EDITORS:
MUTATIONS IN SARS COV-19 – the technical detail:
Out of 10,333 spike protein sequences analysed to date, 8,155 proteins have one or more mutations. A total of 9,654 mutations have been observed that correspond to 400 distinct mutation sites. The receptor binding domain (RBD) which is involved in the interactions with human ACE-2 receptor and causes infection leading to the COVID-19 disease comprised [sic] 44 mutations that included residues within 3.2 Å interacting distance from the ACE-2 receptor.

https://timeforrecovery.org/mutantstrain/

It’s all very interesting. But we know it’s not about a virus, don’t we?

Most of SAGE are made up of Behavioural Scientists, so when Boris says he is following the ‘Science’ it means he is being told how to coerce us re the virus. A obviously mild virus is being used by these people to trash the country

I’m not sure that’s factually true, but the minutes of the various SAGE meetings don’t suggest that they are ever allowed a free debate on the key issues anyway. The minutes read as if the members receive a statement from Messrs Whitty and Vallance and simply nod through their agreement. Being sad, I also read the minutes from Friday’s NERVTAG meeting and noticed that the dynamics were quite different. (Admittedly, only 14 members participated in the discussion, compared to the 80-odd members of SAGE. NERVTAG also has a much higher proportion of genuine Medics and Virologists. ) Its members seemed to raise the right issues and questioned the validity of some of the information they had received. Specifically, their response was couched in terms like “moderate confidence” and “currently insufficient data” and they strongly made the point that more data would be available within 7 days, suggesting that they weren’t prepared to give their masters at PHE a free pass. Sadly, their caution wasn’t allowed to find its way in to the PM’s press conference on Saturday or any of he press briefings. ( https://khub.net/documents/135939561/338928724/SARS-CoV-2+variant+under+investigation%2C+meeting+minutes.pdf/962e866b-161f-2fd5-1030-32b6ab467896?t=1608491166921 )

Talk about mission creep, we’ve gone from “we only need three weeks to stop the NHS being overwhelmed” to “Christmas is cancelled and we just need to lock down for a few years more until all viruses known to man that cause illnesses have been wiped out of existence”

During this time, more money than ever has been thrown at the NHS. They’ve put temporary hospitals up (and taken some of them down again if I remember correctly) but it is STILL overwhelmed.

Maybe some mindless clapping will help. My sister has gone full on lockdown zealot, posting things on facebook asking people not to blame Boris, but those pesky protesters (didn’t mention the BLM or XR protesters, just the ones demanding our freedoms back).

I don’t think my parents want to come round for my daughter’s first Christmas either (because if they do, they’ll get flak from my sister)

I suppose it is easier to just think that these people stopped living in March 2020 and they are now just a shell of their former self.

RIP most of my family

I know how you feel, mine are just sheep.

All the best, Captain, for your daughter’s Christmas.

Many years ago my family went through this – same divisions, same blame, different topic. Eventually I learned to RIP those individuals who actively worked to harm me, but hold onto (at arms length) those who were ambivalent in some way. This has worked out, and the horrors of 2020 are breathing fresh life into the relationships that I made the effort to hold onto.

It’s about the time and effort of emotional investment. Don’t waste it on lost causes, do put most of it into your immediate loved ones, and spare some for a few others, where loyalty has been displayed in the past.

I know how you feel. My 6 year old daughter has been distraught for the last couple of days because she will not see any of ehr family over the Christmas period. My wife was on the phone to her mum and she is a complete Hardcore, fundamentalist lockdown fanatic.She thinks we should all be in our houses indefinitely and that all the blame is on the irresponsible people who are not listening to the government. My wife got off her phone completely pale and said to me, I think my mother has lost her mind. Even before this BS Tier 4 nobody wanted to come to our house because I said they are not allowed to wear masks in my house and that my daughter will hug them if they try to stop her I will throw them out.

Thanked my parents for their lovely Christmas gift and got a message from my dad saying I should wear a muzzle and a visor. WTF???

Had to spend a few minutes trying to tell him about exemptions that exist in this country and that I have a condition that means I can’t wear either and I won’t.

Jesus wept. Even the people who raise you become brainwashed as well.

I don’t think my parents want to come round for my daughter’s first Christmas either (because if they do, they’ll get flak from my sister)

Just don’t tell sister ?

I fear they’re too far gone now. I made a bit of progress with parents before LD2, but this and the fact that my niece had to self-isolate because someone in her sixth form tested positive – and the fact that my nieces other nan died in 2018 – and the fact that my BIL is a police special cuntstable (so doesn’t even get paid) is making everything worse.

I’m sure I spelt that correct, it’s underlined in red in my spellchecker for some reason…

Sorry to say but your sister sounds lost to the cult.

Watched “The death of Stalin” last night, I believe it’s a vision of the future. Funny in its idiocy that an either country got I self into, but deadly at the same time. Will we be shouting “long live comrade Johnson”, just before being shoot.

seen it before but just watching it now on iplayer. When i watched it last time i thought “what a good satire”. Now as i watch it i keep picturing the current government in place of the politburo and the police in place of the NKVD.

Exactly my reaction.Totally OTT but impossible not to watch . Amazing that it was on BBC. I wonder if they realised that the viewers would immediately link the dithering incompetent Malenkov to the current occupant of No 10.

Watched it back when it was in the cinema. It may sound like satire then but its definitely our reality now.

What a dismal turn of events. I did hear something quite cheery on CNBC Squawk Box Europe this morning, the presenters speculated that the emergency cabinet meeting might actually decide to ease restrictions on shops given the huge economic damage done by the UK being cut off, by Brexit and the Tier restrictions. We can but hope…

It’s a positive thought. I reckon tier 4 for all is more likely.

How jolly!

It’s the ‘new jolly’, like finding a rat in Stalingrad

Yes – but of course they were just joking!

In summer someone mentioned to me, we will have a harsh lockdown again.
I answered the large chain shops directors will not let that happen.
So sad to have been proven wrong.

New cases are the result of Lockdown 2

The government’s local authority heatmaps in England show a clear pattern.

Choose an area of rapidly rising new cases, e.g. Maidstone (Kent) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Maidstone

Compare this to an area which had high cases October/ early November, e.g. Liverpool https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Liverpool

Result: major rises in new cases are in areas playing catch up, especially in younger age ranges. Liverpool faced its ‘wave’ early, whereas Kent is now facing a delayed wave.
The new ‘virulent’ strain is speeding it up, but the main reason is catch up after Lockdown 2.

CONCLUSION: Lockdown only delays the inevitable.

The government admit that lockdown is only an attempt to flatten the curve.
The real reason is to destroy any small or medium enterprises that have managed to stay afloat this long.They also neuter any opposition by stopping meeting and organising.
It is clear now that the government is intent on a scorched earth policy and must be stooped.

100%. You cannot control this, it’s like a cold. Or – to re-phrase – you cannot control this at anything like an acceptable price.

Sorry, it IS a cold…

As Dr Mike Yeadon says – it’s like trying to hide from the weather. It’s still there when you come out.

Speaking of Dr Mike. I see that google have wiped his existance and all of his work from the face of the earth. The only references to him are a few negatively “factchecked” documents and one of two interviews which were posted in the German language.

The censorship is definitely tightening…..New Culture Forum videos now being removed.

33 Spotters Anonymous

Royal Mail deliveries in crisis, the have 200 million more parcels than ever before due to the lockdown switch to online shopping. In places post is be delivered once every two weeks. The Royal Mail have employed 33 thousand temps to get them through the Christmas period.

How on earth are so many sceptic alive? We don’t wear masks, don’t sanitise our hands every 5 minutes and don’t antisocially distance. Why are any of us alive?

We are the heralds of Satan, the lieutenants of the Dark Lord!

What other explanation could there be?

I bathe daily in virgins blood ( hard to get in S London) and do my ritual sacrifices to Baal and Moloch..Other than that I’m just a normal Necromancer trying to get trough the day.

Because we know the truth.

We’d probably be compared to Typhoid Mary.

Because my immune system is made of steel!!

Whisky kills the Rona

I haven’t used sanitizer ever, never worn a mask, I have been all over the country since July, I haven’t bothered to socially distance, I have shared closed indoor spaces with a fair few people. I have been in shops every day up until face nappy day, I have cycled 600 miles since March.

Not so much as even the slightest sniffle, one or two “feeling a bit peaky” moments.

THAT’S IT.

Which shows what utter bullshit it is as I knew from day one.

Same. I watched everyone freak out about the Ebola scare. I took note of the pictures of the press standing around in everyday clothes out of shot of the hazmat suit guys. I noticed how NYPD stuffed a load of ‘biohazard’ material in a bin on the street. I suspected it was bullshit. It turned out to be bullshit.

I watched a similar thing happen in Syria, with the people cleaning up ‘nerve agent’ in sandals and the terrible acting of the heroic White Helmets. It turned out to be bullshit.

Then I watched the Skripals incident. Many people were conspicuously not dead from one of the most toxic nerve agents on the planet. Probably a load of bullshit. Treason May showed up. Bullshit confirmed.

By the time we got to this nonsense – I took one look at the government grifters and press removing their masks and having a chat after their presentations and I didn’t really need to ask any more questions.

We are blessed as we use our brains.

Last week we asked the Gov’t to disclose their Equality Impact Assessment Report

They’ve asked me to sign a GAGGING CLAUSE before releasing it

https://mobile.twitter.com/Sacha_Lord/status/1340938836856156161

Who re-employed him? And why?

FOI request anyone?

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1340956568108609537

The up-side is that his continued presence vividly illustrates what a shit-shower is the package of government and advisors – the incompetent dregs of the scientific community.

Also demonstrates the shallow talent pool on the darkside.

I wonder who is in the same modelling field as the creature fergusson. They must be pretty pathetic and slug-like* not to have independently used their own talents and published truthful modelling in an absolutely transparent manner. If you cared a jot for your profession wouldn’t you be obligated to demostrate the creature’s mistaken number-cooking?

*exceptions have already dismantled fergusson and imperial practice here on lockdown Sue Denim et al. Where are the hundreds of other University Institutes? Do they model with play dough?

Please remember ‘science ‘is wheeled out to justify the governments draconian policies,not the other way around.
Do not get sucked into this narrative.
This has been the policy since the first lockdown when the decision was made despite sage not even considering it.

It’s because his model is black box stuff. They’ve no choice but to have his input if they want to use it. As someone who works in IT management that’s my theory. We have had one or two developers on projects that if they left before end we would have to spend 12 months just trying to pick up the reigns.

Looks like a murderer, does’t he.
Oh wait, just a minute …….

He’s got the opposite of the Midas touch.

Good grief. What a scruffy-looking oik.

Is that a photograph of Neil Ferguson in a prison cell?

God that married lover has shit taste in men.

Thanks Lockdown Sceptics for at least giving me some laughs this morning. Following the Séance gave me some proper belly laughs; I loved the piece in Conservative Woman, and the Who Wants to be a Millionaire was excellent.

Reading the section about the London protests reminds me of Dire Straits – Iron Hand . Looks like Mark Knopfler was right: we really haven’t changed since ancient times. Looks like they’re back to using the same old tactics as before. Overwhelming police force. Cavalry against pedestrians. Hiding their badges and their faces. It looks like we’re in a civil war, whether we like it or not.

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1340954727094300673

I think we need to lend moral support to the Police Federation and the decent police they represent. They won’t be relishing what they’re forced into.

Like they weren’t relishing their duties in London over the weekend? Fuck em.

Agree, the TSG are absolute psychopaths. I think some people need to come outside and face reality – the police act like an occupying force, this isn’t about safety its about control and total submission.

I agree with you.

Seeing the fuzz as one undifferentiated mass is a mistake – as earlier protests have shown.. The TSG is a particular group. Just saying ‘fuck ’em’ in general isn’t going to achieve anything.

Seeing the fuzz as one undifferentiated mass is a mistake – as earlier protests have shown.

Of course it is. But chatting about the weather in comparison to getting beat up – I know which would stick in my consciousness the longer.

The TSG is a particular group.

The technical term is ‘bunch of cunts’.

Just saying ‘fuck ’em’ in general isn’t going to achieve anything.

Hard to say. Crystallises opposition, emboldens others.

The Police Federation appears to want laws to enforce the tyranny and crack down harder. They are more than happy for its members to beat up peaceful protestors every weekend. I have yet to meet a single decent police officer since March – all brainwashed stormtroopers.

The Scot Pol Fed have voiced some reasonable contrary opinion over 2020. Not to imply this is equal at other police trade unions. I have heard nothing from Scot Pol Fed about Christmas border bans.

Carlsberg don’t do Christmas Pantomimes but if they did………..

Just seen the pic of Ferguson a few posts back. Definitely a touch of Himmler about him,

“Face masks in schools create a climate of fear”

“They have urged the Govt to withdraw its advice on the use of face masks in school as a matter of urgency,adding that masks should play no part in the life of healthy children”

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1340942304597651461

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/20/face-masks-schools-create-climate-fear-breach-advice-say-medics/
Wish I could read the whole article (paywall)

Here it is:

 Face masks are being used in schools in a way that breaches the World Health Organisation guidelines, senior medics have warned.
The use of masks in classrooms has led to a “climate of fear” in schools, according to an open letter to the Prime Minister signed by a hundred academics, medics, paediatricians and clinical psychologists.
They have urged the Government to withdraw its advice on the use of face masks in school corridors “as a matter of urgency”, adding that masks should “play no part in the life of healthy children”.
Their intervention comes amid a major row between ministers and teachers about the roll-out of mass testing at secondary schools next term.
Signatories of the letter point out that ministers justified their recommendation for face masks in schools by citing WHO guidance.
“However, within the same guideline, the WHO states that when authorities recommend masks for children, monitoring and evaluation should be established at the onset,” they said.
This evaluation should include analysing the impact of masks on children’s physical and mental health as well as their development, learning and attendance.
But the Government has not complied with this aspect of the guidance, the medics claimed. Neither the Department for Education nor the Department for Health and Social Care has carried out the necessary monitoring and evaluation, according to information obtained under freedom of information laws by the parent campaign group UsForThem which co-ordinated the letter.
Many secondary schools and even some primaries are now “requiring children to wear masks in class” despite official guidance stating that this should be avoided, the letter said.
“Masks for teachers especially impedes learning for those children with special educational needs and adds to the climate of fear,” it added.
The letter urged ministers to send “urgent instructions” to all schools and nurseries explaining that the use of face masks in classrooms is “not only unnecessary but potentially harmful and must stop”.
Signatories include Dr Damian Wilde, a specialist clinical psychologist, Dr Jennifer Prouten, a consultant physician, Dr Elizabeth Corcoran, a consultant psychiatrist and Ellen Townsend, a psychology professor at Nottingham University.

thanks

You can read the whole article if you want to, you just need to stop the page loading at the correct moment.

You could install this:
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/master/README.md

2020 – the year teachers, schools and teachers unions revealed how much they despise children

Aaaarrghghg! Another mutant strain discovered!!! Coronavirus has infected smart phones and merged with the auto-type function to produce Asymptotic Transmission. This deadly new variant is approaching you all the time, but you never actually meet it…

most elegant joke so far this morning

… indeed it prompts me to offer you in return my annual Christmas Joke (off-topic, forgive me):

What does a grammarian call Santa’s little helpers?
Subordinate clauses.

Now, that’s classy. I’m all for grammar and stuff, innit.

Matt and the beanstalk

‘ The hapless Matt is sent to market to sell all the assets of the UK. He returns home with some magic vaccine beans’

You lot are pretty creative take the story up from there

I suspect a bit of panic in Downing Street this morning. It is patently obvious that they did not foresee the French shutting the border. Shapps (Transport Secretary) said this morning that he will be calling his French counterpart later today. Now, surely, any rational person who had considered the impact of the new variant bullshit announcement would have thought to check that there would be no negative impact as a result in advance of the announcement. But, as we are all too aware this Government does not believe in impact assessments.

Now they have to go grovelling to Macron.. what a bunch of…. seriously I cannot think of a word strong enough to describe my contempt.

Genius French. Should force us to concede in the Brexit negotiations too. Recall Macron is part of the reason we went into a lockdown in March too. He threatened to shut the border. This time, he’s just gone ahead and done it. Nasty, but effective.

More like genius Remainer Ultras in SAGE. Which is probably most of them

All part of the plan to reverse 2016
We have to stay in the EU now because of new variant of the bat cold

Brexit was always an irrelevant and costly distraction built on illusions.

The EU is a Neo Liberal monstrosity.
Old Labour knew this.

As is the British parliament.

In both cases, this is about the content, not the framework. The illusion is that global neoliberal freemarketry can be escaped by just opting out of the framework.

Correct
But less government should always be the default rational option
Whether it works or not is another matter
The carnage it has caused (especially to pig fucker in chief Cameroon) was worth it

Unfortunately, the people in charge of government are the people who can make the government smaller, and they’re the same people that profit from big government. That’s why Trump is so important for the world. He is the only major world leader in quite a long while that has actually reduced government power with his tax cuts. It’s a small step in the grand scheme of things, but it’s a step nonetheless, one that not many are even willing to consider.

Replace the word Brexit with Democracy

If supermarket shelves once again go empty, we’ll know what this was: an attempt at manufacturing a credible excuse for cancelling Brexit. “You saw how everyone starved when France closed the border just for two days! What happens if they close it forever? We cannot do this.”

I can’t believe what I just heard on the Radio 2 news summary. I didn’t catch who he was (maybe a Retail Consortium spokesman) but a chap just reassured us that it would be wrong to think that the supermarkets might have completely empty shelves “There will be more than enough wine, crackers and gin as these are all things that the shops stock up on long before Christmas. What there might be a shortage of is salads and fresh vegetables.” And he wasn’t being ironic. Oh, so that’s all right then. Panic over.

Definetely enough crackers for everyone. As the hospitality industry haven’t used any. Just my ex employer in our market town would have used at least 3000 for various xmas parties.
Just a shame these crackers are not edible, even washed down with wine and gin, like one needs to do with the edible ones.

It’s a plan, vargas, not incompetence or a panic.

Hold on to that contempt though !

I wasn’t sure whether or not this could get any more damaging and dangerous that it already has. But here we are.

This is getting very, very serious now. When are people going to realise?

The way this ends is in quiet, mass non-compliance. Ken Marsh of the Police Federation is doing as much good as any Central London protest, he speaks a lot of sense. I literally no NO-ONE complying 100%, even those worried about the virus are not following the rules.

know not no

bad day for spelling sorry…

Because people worried about the virus aren’t actually worried about the virus. They’re just doing what they’re told. If Boris comes out tomorrow and says the virus is gone, they won’t question it for a second. Stop thinking of these people as rational human beings. They are sheeple, more open to authority than to their own minds. When you do that, it will all start to make perfect sense.

That’s true. I often think, as I watch these dimwits swanning around in the good fresh air muzzled to the eyeballs – what if I stopped them and asked WHY they’re muzzled. Would they be able to give a cogent answer?

But they make me feel so furious, I doubt if I could splutter out a polite question, before clawing maniacally at their stupid face.

“There’s a pandemic, mate!”
“It’s the law.”
“Just doing my part in protecting others.”
“Cause it’s what the experts said.”
And a bunch of other non-reasons that remove responsibility and the burden and thought from themselves and surrenders all personal freedom to the state.

I did actually ask one a while ago….their reply was ‘haven’t you heard there is a pandemic’. My reply was yes….one that kills 0.05% of the population mostly those who are already nearly dead.

So, I have read variously that there are 9,654, 4,000, 20,000 and 40,000 mutations of the virus. A second variant has been announced and caused the cancellation of Christmas. Where are the rest of the variants then?
Who can be trusted with any statistical fact?
What would happen if the Covidiots and zeolots realised there were so many mutations out there?
Can anyone answer these questions?

I think I will go into hibernation. Wake me next year if there is any prospect of life getting back to normal
Dispairing Yours, Tarfu

‘Mutations’ is a bit misleading, as is ‘strain’. The spike protein makeup is highly diverse, there are thought to be around 20000 variations so far, of this new type is one. There is no evidence to suggest this type is any more infectious than any of the others.

The article quoted in the update from Lancet

COVID-19 Global Mortality: Comparing Actual and Modelled Patterns in Space and Time Using an Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) Model

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3745174

Rather bland in the abstract but much more interesting reading the whole article
Abstract
“Mortality variations remaining unexplained by age could reflect differences in the: accuracy of data, proportion of the population infected, efficacy of public health interventions or pre-existing population resistance or vulnerability to infection.”

In the article
“Israel and Malaysia both have average ages around 30. Israel has 3.1% of the population above 80 years, whereas in Malaysia it is only 1%. So although the average age may be similar, the IFR is not”

“One plausible reason for the regional variations in mortality, for example, for the different experiences of East and South-east Asia compared with Europe and North America, and the higher mortality in Latin America, might be regional variations in pre-existing immunity, possibly related to exposure to other seasonal coronaviruses, to the COVID-19 virus”

“Japan, the latter having exceptionally low mortality despite having the highest average age in the world, yet with prevalence studies in some parts of Japan showing the infection is very common.(8) The most likely explanation for mortality variations is variation in the proportion of the population infected, which is commensurate with seroprevalence studies, although our analysis usually indicates a higher proportion of the population has been infected than indicated by most research on the prevalence of antibody”

Have to say that the last para is self-contradictory in respect of Japan.

Japan is a very interesting case study.
No lockdowns, of course.

But also they consume a lot of natto (fermented soy bean), which is one of the few natural sources of Vitamin K12, which is known to prevent hardening of the arteries and therefore can prevent blood clots. And hugely more beneficial than statins.
(Sauerkraut and meat offal are other sources, by the way.)

I take a Vitamin K12 plus Vitamin D3 combined supplement.

Even the Grauniad flagged up the benefits…

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/05/vitamin-k-could-help-fight-coronavirus-study-suggests

“pre existing immunity..” that’s heresy!

The people who are running this country, and I mean running it into the ground, must never have been taught as children that actions have consequences.

Some examples:

Track and trace/test and trace meant that a high proportion of medical staff and teaching staff would have had to isolate, leading to shortages in schools and hospitals.

Work from home meant that firms realised they didn’t really need so many staff/couldn’t afford to pay staff, so redundancies followed- not to mention the destruction of the economy.

Announcing lockdowns and tiers beforehand meant that people went out for one last fling.

After telling folks that there was a lethal virus on the loose and frightening them all to death, they had to make people wear masks to give them confidence to go shopping.

After encouraging everyone to eat out to help out, they then blamed the hospitality industry (wrongly) for an increase in positive tests.

After promising everyone Christmas, then withdrawing it and locking down London, it ensured (just as happened in Wuhan and N Italy) that people escaped before the lockdown so trains were crowded.

Tell everyone that we have a virus mutation and the whole of Europe shuts us out.

And so it goes on and on and on.

Right. Off on an elf hunt now! A little piece of sanity in a mad world!

because they’ve never had a ‘real’ job and been bought up by nanny in the nursery with a silver spoon stuffed in their gob. They may have all the useless PPE degrees but have absolutely zero common sense and zero comprehension of how business works.

Hey dont knock the PPE degree JHB has one.

Because they can just print more money and steal it from the young
printing press goes Brrrrrrrrrr since 2008

Absolutely spot on. They knew that school closures would possibly lead to NHS staff pressure with 20 % less staff. This for a virus which contrary to flu is not sustained by children leading to staff pressure when we needed them most at the peak.

You seem to be assuming that the people behind this don’t know what they’re doing. And while Boris and co. are for sure a bunch of spineless useful idiots, the people who are actually running things aren’t. This is all directed. The efficiency of these measures at manipulating the crowds indicate a well thought out plan, not bumbling stupidity.

Well said Cristi !

Won’t be surprised if some of our leaders have not been properly disciplined as children. They were able to wrap daddy & mummy around their little finger and were never told off if they were naughty.

My arch-sceptic other half had a good insight. I was saying to her how much I missed things like going to pubs, church, cinema etc and meeting with friends. Her reply was stark:

‘Why do you miss being with people and organisations which have unquestioningly, even in some cases happily given up freedom and livelihoods, not just their own but that of others?

‘Why do you want be with people who think people like us (sceptics) are criminals and disease-spreaders? You shouldn’t miss them any more than you would miss being with collaborators in an invasion’.

I think there are two things here: the physical reality of the group meeting (friends at the pub, members of a community choir, etc) and the cognitive and emotional experience of being with ‘like-minded’ people. The state has banned the physical meeting; what your partner refers to is the harder-to-bear truth that many of the members of the group have ceased to share your basic perceptions of the world.
As a sceptic I am literally isolated by the prohibitions on social contact, but more damagingly I am also symbolically separated from some of my closest friends and family by a great gulf of mutual incomprehension.

All planned. This has moved the average chat from the personal and private (where you were free to say anything and explore any possibility) into the realm of the online, where your every word is monitored and stored forever, always ready to be used against you. It is, in a way, performing the same task Newspeak was performing in “1984”: that of limiting thought. When we can only speak in a limited set of concepts, either cause our language doesn’t have the words or because the medium we use doesn’t permit the words, then our thinking is also limited. And limiting thought and debate is a key step in making the public more compliant to authority.

I’ve noticed on several occasions that when I express my dissent from the covid orthodoxy people seem literally unable to hear what I’ve said. It reminds me of the days when the mainstream assumption of every normal person’s heterosexuality was so powerful that it was sometimes quite hard to get anyone to ‘hear’ a statement of one’s own homosexuality.

Yes. My other half’s view is that the pleasures of the ‘old world’ were never particularly real to start with, more a sort of confection of comforting illusions, peopled with fair-weather friends. What matters to her now is the handful of solid meaningful relationships she has and doing things that can’t easily be subject to ideological control – walks in the country, cooking, tending the garden, reading etc. She has no illusions about life, coming originally from a middle eastern country where her father was imprisoned and tortured for opposition to the ruling regime.

The state hasn’t actually banned physical meetings – worth revisiting the laws/guidance, then finding a nearby group and/or a sympathetic venue ? There is loads of wriggle-room.

Friends/family can be total fuckwits, I agree.

Why? Because colour, pattern, texture, difference brings society to life. The dull grey wash of 2020 is miserable.

Had bit of a blow out yesterday at the gym … i found some keys in the car park so handed them to reception and the youngish guy got a paper roll stuff to pick them up – i thought ‘what a nob and continued’.
In the changing room a woman said “there’s some sterilising stuff there if you want to clean your locker” … oh boy i think she may have regretted asking as i said that’s completely unnecessary and then i got on my soapbox about the whole thing about the virus and tests, the government incompetence, lockdowns, police brutality at peaceful protests, and we’ll still be in this position all of next year etc.
At one point (when i paused for breathe she said she hadn’t installed the track n trace as didn’t feel comfortable about that. I said well this time next year you probably won’t have a choice in the matter the way things are going.
I did apologise for banging on – but honestly the complete lack of critical or analytical thought by the majority – just to ask why? what’s the evidence? are there other perspectives on this apart from the msm/gov?
I gets my goat and she was unfortunately in the firing line for my frustration. So what she expected a nice flowery, useless inane conversation didn’t quite happen – suffice to say i don’t think she’ll be offering the sterilising gunk to other folks in the changing room.

Most people are sheep. Went into a B&Q store the other day and a guy dressed up as Santa offered me hand sanitiser to clean my hands. As i refused i should have told him that he should be offering it to people leaving the place where everyone touches everything, not the other way around. People don’t think at all. They’re told to do something and they do it, even when it’s clearly idiotic. People do not think critically any longer, and they are afraid to question authority. The definition of submissiveness.

I always wonder about the people who voluntarily sanitize their hands between shops. Unless you sneezed into you hand in between, why?!?!

When I went to B&Q they told me that I had to take a trolley to ensure that I kept everyone 2 metres away from me. Was I dizzy when I came out of the store having to spin around constantly so nobody could sneak up to the side of me.