2021-01-11

Oh wow, hello!

You win! Speech, speech, speech!

Obviously, make it profound and dolorous.

The description in the attached video states “⁣If you listen carefully the Officer indicates the suspect was filmed being out on three separate occasions in one day.” and I believe that was said. https://brandnewtube.com/watch/mZl8JwHZhuGHsi5
Stage managed?

I don’t think it really matters whether it was or wasn’t. There’s no legal limit on how many times a day you can leave your house. It doesn’t have to be “essential” either. Just a reasonable excuse.

It doesn’t have to be a reasonable excuse, the law is an ass and should be ignored.

So many do not even begin to understand the difference

Lockdown – a term originating from the US (Corporate) Prison System. It is a system in which prisoners are locked in their cells 24 hours a day. The ‘lockdown’ may be invoked if the priisoners get uppity, or more commonly when the corporate wants to cut staff to reduce costs/increase profits.

When I was still watching the news in spring, the word made me have short periods of anxiety. One reason why I had to switch off MSM, and I absolutely hate it!
The Americans call it quarantine and it is a friendlier word.

I suspect the choice was deliberate in the UK as it doesn’t have that connotation here. But there is always a token of truth in their barrage of lies.

Isolating only the confirmed infected isn’t enough with Covid, because it’s virulent enough to kill lots of people, but not so virulent that you get obvious symptoms almost immediately after infection (which is what made SARS-1 and Ebola so much easier to control).

There’s a reason why Vietnam’s successful response to Covid involved contact tracing out to five degrees of separation !

There’s a reason Japan, Sweden, Belarus, Brazil have been successful in their handling of this respiratory virus.
They did not seek to wreck their countries economy, society and education because of a respiratory virus that has had a death rate comparable to a bad flu year.

The prophylactic measures were known before march and are much improved since i.e. Vit D, HCQ and now Invermectin ,see Taiwan for an example of how to make the virus incredibly unlikely to kill more than a handful of people out of millions infected.

Where did you get the idea that Brazil didn’t institute lockdown? We’ve been in one form or another of lockdown since March 2020. The schools have been closed, businesses ruined, travel restricted, and non-essential stores closed or severely limited. We had three day lockdowns over Christmas and New Year to to complete the misery.

The President was against these measures but our supreme court took the power out of his hands and and passed the decisions onto state governors. This bunch then decided to play political football and only turned to the central government for their money.

In comparison to Peru you had some minor restrictions I believe.
If you look at this website, you will see a Postcard from Brazil detailing some restrictions that everyone ignored:
https://lockdownsceptics.org/a-postcard-from-brazil/
Also:
https://lockdownsceptics.org/brazil-automatic-recuperation/

So the answer to your question of where I got the idea that Brazil didn’t lockdown is this very website.

bollocks

If it was stage managed, that’s multiple people ” impersonating a police officer”, which is a criminal.offence.
That they are not looking for any impersonators rather gives the game away doesn’t it?

What Leftists Think About Freedom of Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SicsQervb4

AwakenWithJP

I’ve been thinking about how we might start disrupting the narrative in ways that are difficult to stop. I think, first of all, that we should concentrate on LOCKDOWN. That is where this is affecting people most directly. That is where freedom is being destroyed at its roots. That is where people are feeling increasingly uneasy and worn down. Attacking lockdown is also ethically sound, because lockdown doesn’t only not work, it’s proven to be counterproductive. Lockdown is the weak spot.

One way would be to use their slogans against them. Flood the internet with images that show their slogans in a different light. Perhaps using the actual slogans, without textual comment, would subvert algorithms. Here’s one suggestion. Others would be much better at this kind of thing.

Coming our way soon, America’s Big Tech coup

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/coming-our-way-soon-americas-big-tech-coup/

A very accurate article I thought. Very dark times ahead not just in the UK, but in every Western country.

Indeed, dark times are here now, but much worse is just around the corner. I never thought I would say this, but being old is now a bonus. Oh not to be young in these worse than Orwellian times. That being said, the old, who’ve lived mainly through much better times, must do all that they can to resist the darkness being inflicted upon us all by the sold out Johnson and his demented henchmen.

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blob: https://lockdownsceptics.org/7839dac4-ec98-45e6-b992-6a0bc314c17b

Ignore;another failure

Yes indeed.

Yes, I think you are on to something there. I don’t believe that deep down a majority of people support their own lockdown.

Not where we live (Sussex). Any one you talk to is a ‘sceptic’. Few know of any ‘dead’ from CV. Many have stories where CV is attached to a death for no reason at all (eg. car accident).

Polls are likely bollocks showing Londonistan support for LD. Outside of the ‘Stan, few support it.

More like in wealthy pockets of Londonistan like Hampstead, Highgate, Kensington Dulwich, Chiswick, etc.

Excellent images. We can also use those of elderly people alone for the “stay at home” bit or those images used by children’s charities to illustrate child abuse.

I think that’s a good idea. I’ve been careful of what I share on Facebook, as most people are so closed minded and see lockdown as the way to save themselves. Unfortunately most people on social media sites do not read past the headline. Images like this with short captions showing the damage lockdowns really do may penetrate their minds better.

I’m not a physical fighter, I have a lot to say but it never comes across well. Having images like this, in particular the first one and as Bart Simpson suggested the elderly sitting alone are good examples. I would definitely share these.

Absolutely LOVE that.

I was thinking about this recently, why it upsets me so much, and, more importantly, why more and more people are beginning to get upset about lockdowns, in general and philosophically, not just because of their specific absurdities.
My conclusion is that this feels like an unjustified prison sentence, which could (and likely will) also always be reimposed arbitrarily upon me even after this one is over, and that for the rest of my life- with temporary coercive get out of jail cards of vaccine(s) chipped in from time to time.
I think, I could bear a justified prison sentence much easier than what has been forced upon me since March and fir God knows how often and long in the future.

“Civil liberties matter. It is in the nature of our humanity that people need at least some solace and support, and either the rules themselves or the way they are enforced must leave room for that. We also have to be vigilant about simple prejudice, and the warped ways that so many laws and regulations are enforced.”

Now where would you expect to read something like that?
Maybe not in the hyperlockdownista, covviphiliac Grauniad . But that’s where is, in the article listed above.
I suppose the law of averages requires that a glimmer of sanity should occasionally manifest itself in the most unlikely places.

Whats the expression? A broken clock is still right twice a day. I see sceptical articles in the daily mail, but then you get a “Boris: you must stay at home” banner headline. With cobblers about 1300 dead. If you take 10 seconds to look at the number you can see that this was a manufactured number. But because they gave stopped producing the total death figures there is no context. Why are journalists not doing their job every day when my radio wakes me up the news has another twat government minister spouting rubbish about non compliance, but these views are totally unchallenged.

I find it hard to muster any enthusiasm over someone like Dr Ari Joffe, who talks about initial data falsely suggesting an IFR of 2-3%. I’m a lay person and even I knew that whatever initial data show, the actual fatality rate is likely to be an order of magnitude lower. Others pointed this out early in the pandemic, such as this article. This guy Joffe is an infectious diseases specialist: he should know this stuff! Did 99.9% of “experts” forget everything that’s happened in recent pandemics and everything they ever learned about infectious disease and immunity?!

Didn’t Ionniddis estimate the IFR back in March to be around 0.2% based, among other data sources, on the Diamond Princess?

The Diamond Princess is to be ignored at all costs. It’s a completely unrepresentative situation. Almost everyone aboard was vulnerable by reason of age and comorbidities, and almost all of them remained asymptomatic or had slight symptoms and recovered. It’s a laughable anomaly, compared to real, cold, hard facts like the Imperial College model.

You are Neil Ferguson and I claim my five pounds.

Prof John Ioannidis, the World’s leading Epidemiologist from a peer reviewed study on WHO’s website says 0.23% (I think). He says it’s no different to a bad flu (at it’s worst). Here is the article for you to check. https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf

And he’s since lowered his estimate a bit more to 0.15-0.2%:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eci.13423

A very good point. It was obvious very early to anyone with the most basic mathematical literacy who cared to look that the combination of IF and IFR was not going to be catastrophic. And every passing day and week confirmed this.

I think he was probably not paying sufficient attention at the start when the commentary ( deliberately ) conflated cases and infections. Obviously the larger Case Fatality Rate figure is more scary and was given prominence. You will have no doubt noted that this mendacity continues a year later with the practice of referring to positive tests as ‘cases’.

I agree wholeheartedly about Brexit and the rise of patriotism across the West and the elites need to put us back in our ‘box’, because that is precisely what I felt back in the Spring. The whole reaction to this Plandemic was so utterly over the top, so authoritarian, so vile for something akin to the flu there must have been more to it. The problem with the ‘elites’ they continue to want to live their lives whilst expecting us to isolate ourselves in our homes. I think civil war isn’t far off.

Had you suggested that civil war was possible six months ago, I would have dismissed that notion as fanciful. Not any more. The way matters continue to spiral out of control in a lot of Western countries, leads me to the conclusion you are probably right. The powder keg is the U.S. that when ignited, will quickly spread.

Yes. But with China less as Barabbas in ‘The Jew of Malta,’ and more as Fortinbras in ‘Hamlet.’

Well said. As I’ve long said, the situation will get uglier and civil unrest is bubbling under the surface.

‘Prague Spring’, ‘Arab Spring’ – are you predicting there could there be a ‘British Spring’?
I can’t see any signs or even murmurings of civil unrest myself but then I don’t get out much!

I have no idea to be honest but with redundancies and bankruptcies predicted to go up the roof, I can imagine that many people will realise they have nothing to lose and do the unthinkable.

‘Nothing to lose’ is a trigger in most revolutions any where, at any time IMO.
But there’s a surprisingly large underclass in Britain propped up by the welfare state which already has ‘nothing to lose’.
Perhaps there will be enough of us to wo-man the barricades however.

Furlough is ending in March. Surely they can’t extend it even more.

Even with furlough, there are still people being made redundant and there are others who can’t claim them. My workplace is one of them and that’s why we’ve ended up in the situation we are in.

Money printing press goes brrrrrr 24/7 since 2008

They don’t even need a press these days – other than to press a few keys on a keyboard.

Fiat pecunia. Et pecunia erat.

‘Furlough is ending in March. Surely they can’t extend it even more.’

Oh yes they can, Bart. If they want to. More and more debt. Then they’ll reset the fiat currency….and it’ll be very bad news for anyone with assets (savings, pensions etc). We are seeing…and will see much more…redistribution of wealth …from the plebs/mid classes to the ultra rich.

British Spring? Buds are coming out already and it is still January.

The problem is, when you take away peoples right to say what they think, it drives these opinions underground. When our views are not represented in the msm we gather in enclaves like this site where we can air our views. On YouTube you see lots of people challenging the narrative but they then get banned. Then you see bullshit polls saying 75% support lockdown. Out of all the people I know and all the people I have chatted to over the park or when playing golf, I only know one person who thinks the government is correct. If we were allowed to protest this would be obvious and is the reason they were stopped. People obey the law.

Allowing people to leave home once a week and ending support bubbles? How would vast numbers manage to work and would the nation really go along with this? Lots of people might conclude that it might be worth actually getting shot by the police than living under such a regime. What’s the point of living like that?

Opinion polls are frequently being cited by LS as if they are reliable. I maintain the level of support for lockdowns is not as high as this. Opinion polls have been weaponised. I wish the editors here would be a little more sceptical, as in the name of the site. The crowds that are out and about in the January cold suggest to me that the compliance/obedience rate is in actuality much lower than claimed by the dodgy weaponised polls.

It looks like the whole nation is going to be transformed into some sort of gigantic Melbourne. To what end? This is no policy blunder. It is meant to force a demoralised nation into taking a dodgy vaccine.

I want the most draconian restrictions possible.Something must wake up the sleeping masses

NOTHING can wake the living dead. There is NOTHING they won’t go along with.
The logical next step is to adopt the Ferguson approach to foot and mouth. Wherever there’s an outbreak, kill everybody within a, say, two-mile radius.Control the virus, save lives.

I think you are probably right,but at the moment the Government hasn’t the power to keep everyone down.if we called their bluff they would have to back down.

Lots of people are too weak to do “calling the Governments bluff” I’m afraid. I’ve been gobsmacked just how many people are weak and cowardly. There are many that will go even further than the restrictions – thinking of a friend living very nearby who is now refusing to see me (at least she’s also refusing to see anyone else either…) – even though we could both do so in legit way as each others “support bubble” because we both live on our own. This was preceded by her telling me to get off the phone to her a couple of days previous to that and I assumed it was for an important reason – but….no…it was just so she could watch the news and check what the latest set of rules is!!! There are lots like it – Wimps ‘R Us.

It’s this type of “weak” individual who becomes a threat. They are the willing drones. They will do the government’s bidding and rat on their neighbours in the foolish belief that they’re saving their own skins.

It must be very hard to be friends with someone like that.

How could they possibly police even half the population going out and about?

They are relying on the weak-kneed to police themselves.

Yep agreed, there is no limit to which the masses will NOT comply. If the Government tomorrow told them that if they see people on the street they need to kill them with anything they have to ha,nd they would do it, no questions asked. Protect life’s, Save the NHS, Long live Big Brother!

The FnM policy caused the spread, it was exactly the wrong strategy to start at a centre and work outwards. I realise I’m being pedantic but good to remember the active damage done to our country by obe fergusson.

Completely agree…and blimey Annie…how did you get access to their planning?!

There’s a sizeable minority that would welcome the army lining rule breakers up against a wall and shooting them. Be careful what you wish for.

I want the most draconian restrictions possible.Something must wake up the sleeping masses

And if that doesn’t work?

Completely agree as sated in my comment. Don’t know if it is just me, or Toby et al appear to have been a bit luke warm in their scepticism lately.

Jonathan Barr is the one today.He is too willing to accept the mainstream narrative

No, it’s just not only you. He whole heartedly embraces the “vaccine” without reservation. That in itself is worrying.

The evidence is mounting that these vaccines are not really safe. Why would a government pressurise a nation into taking a dangerous product for a virus that ahs such a high survival rate? if you are not at this stage entertaining the worst of thoughts at the back of your mind, then maybe you aren’t paying attention.

Pic&mix vaccines, how we chortled at the very idea.

That is another big unknown about the emergency drugs. There is no information on potential interactions with other drugs. I guess that may be what all this push to mass use of the vaccine is all about – acquiring such knowledge. Phase III testing with no cost and no liability. Kerching.

I prefer Planter’s mixed nut platter. With Bass Ale.

Safe or not, even with 100% “safety”, he main question for me is the necessity – if over 99% of trial participants who were in the placebo arm of the trial still didn’t get covid, how do they explain that? If it’s so exponentially rampant…

Yes, and we can assume no serious cases, hospitalisations or deaths in that group either, or we would certainly have been told.

Depopulation.

Vaccines are just drugs, and like any other drug they have potential benefits and potential side effects. If the side effects outweigh the benefits the drug should not be taken.

For the great majority of people, Covid-19 is harmless, so the drugs offer no benefit (especially as all they do is slightly reduce symptoms in mild cases). For them, the drug only offers the side effects (may include death). The big unknown for the mRNA types is the long term effects on the immune system. It could potentially induce auto-immune responses or degrade the fficacy of the immune system overall.

There are currently a lot of dangers and risks to putting your head above the ‘covid’ parapet, I understand Toby has had death threats which the police have told him to treat seriously. He has a wife and family and if the people running this site are therefore being a little cautious it would hardly be surprising. I am quite happy if the news above is fairly factual, we can do the opinion and the controversial in this comments section.What i worry about is losing this site altogether, there is nothing else.

If Toby is getting death threats, it’s the government’s fault. It is the government that has terrified the public into a state of insanity.

By pushing the hardly teated vaccines so hard, the government is making threats against the public which will likely end in death for very many.

I agree. I also think he and this site have remained on the right side of reason and evidence throughout. That’s important, there are some that have stepped too far over the conspiracy theory line and are beginning to sound a bit unhinged. While I enjoy listening to James Delingpole and Laura Perrins sometimes they have gone too far. Stick with facts. For the human side Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan are good.

Facts?
Or official facts?
Or official opposition facts?

What I perhaps can join with you in is that ‘careless talk costs lives’ and that what can be stood in and defended as having substance is different from possibilities or theories yet to be substantiated but which have emotional (or corporate) investment.

JD and LP started off as an entertaining conversation that was willing to consider a wider range of possibilities – but in an undisciplined way.
As such they become a low grade signal with occasional moments – and many liabilities. But humanly so and thus a sort of X-covid files – along with the fission of their relationship – which is of course warming on some level and so becomes covid soap drama. (I do appreciate them both for where their willingness and dedication shine through).

Part of JD and LP is that they are not centred or focused and thus pushing out too fast and too loud as a result.

Once something is given the status of fact it operates as ‘reality’ until its status is called into question and can no longer be maintained.
How many ‘facts’ abide unchanged through the generations – and why would you and your particular view have that unique property of being at the pinnacle of evolution?

I am not looking to undermine your contribution.
The belief in contagion far exceeds the evidence.
That beliefs are contagious needs no great experiment to recognise – in ourselves as in others.
Perhaps owning beliefs and defending them might have more to offer us all than the official facts of settle scientific consensus (sic).

We may believe death by all causes to be very close to the fact and by that fact see there is no real ‘pandemic’ – but then is it not a fact the WHO redefined THEIR meaning of such a term to lower the bar to let every cold and flu qualify for the activation of drilled interdisciplinary procedures that in this case were suddenly replaced by a Chinese ‘hammer and dance’ of locking down whole populations?

Information war is the weaponisation of language and the loss of our mind. But then any kind of war is always the loss of our mind for the ‘facts’ by which to wage it as if truth is to be what the victors shape as the post war or post covid world.

Exactly where have they gone too far?

The comment from “ituex” looks very like one of those clever little posts from the army of paid trolls that the government has lined up against us, for the purposes of throttling the truth.

Some people will still be calling for a softly softly approach, when they knock their front door down one rainy dawn.

When I first joined this site near the beginning of this madness, I warned the ‘new normal’ is a communist nightmare [and worse]. I warned the government will eventually use a tracking system; they will continuously isolate us to make us weaker in every way; the borders will be shut down; and here’s the big one… they’ll try to cancel Christmas + New Year.

I was mocked from popular posters on this site for being a misery gut.

Everything I said would happen has since happened. Some of the ‘more extreme’ predictions are yet to happen.

I knew all this was going to happen not because I’m a smart arse, but because I stopped following the mainstream narrative 15 years ago.

‘Stick with the facts’ – if I told you the entire civilised populations of the world would be forced under police rule to wear a nappy on their face and stand 2m apart, Christmas would be cancelled and we were all expected to be vaccinated against a harmless virus – you’d have called me an ‘unhinged’ conspiracy theorist.

Point being – when are you going to wake up?

offGuardian is not too bad.

It depends on your take on the situation.it you believe that this is driven by government incompetence then you would see the vaccine as a way out of this crisis.
If you see something much darker behind the governments actions then a rushed experimental ‘vaccine’ is something to be feared and avoided at all costs.

IMO it was cowardice rather than incompetence, but I don’t agree that in thinking this it follows I see vaccines as a way out of this.

In the last few days there have been statements from government advisors suggesting “measures” (they’ve been vague about which ones) “may” be needed in subsequent winters. Hancock has also been quoted today in the Telegraph in suggesting that it may be necessary for everyone to get an annual vaccine. Some have taken those comments to mean that the Rubicon has been crossed and we are now going to be stuck in this hell, at least sporadically, forever.

There are, however, reasons to doubt this – whether or not Hancock wishes it so. Firstly, I think public compliance only holds as long as people think there’s an end in sight. I know some here think the propaganda war has created a nation of sheep, but history suggests that even countries suppressed under decades of government lies will still have the will to set themselves free (see the collapse of the Iron Curtain) and even here people tend to react against governments imposing unnecessary restrictions (see the 1948 election).

The other reason for doubt is that I don’t think the international situation will allow it. Many countries, having taken a significant hit from the restrictions of 2020, can’t afford to pursue the policy ad infinitum. Some of them simply can’t admit having made a catastrophic mistake and they will see the vaccine as a means to draw a line under the episode. Others are already challenging the narrative and blaming the failings on the PCR test. Most other countries also handle their healthcare better than us – NHS winter crisis may be almost a tautology, but it’s not something that happens everywhere else.

When Sweden seemed to be unique in its handling of Covid (it wasn’t, but it’s easier for the media to pretend that countries like Belarus don’t exist) it was easy for people like Piers Morgan to bully the Government into pursuing hugely restrictive policies on the basis they were being enacted elsewhere. If next winter, significant numbers of other countries – or even significant other countries – do not go down that road, it will be much harder to repeat it here. Hancock may want us to keep lining his pockets with vaccine money (and I’m increasingly of the view that that is his motive at least) but once the vulnerable are seen to have been protected, I think what public support there is will wither. Dodgy polls might maintain the illusion for a bit, but when all newspaper comment trails are like the Telegraph’s (where the only pro-lockdown voices now seem to be paid shills for organisations like Imperial College) it will be clear that the game is up and that attempting to continue is likely to lead to demands for inquiries – demands that are unlikely to be sated by whitewashes of the type which followed the Iraq war.

IMO the government is working towards making this a permanent state of affairs. I agree it is in question whether they will win. Anyway, well said.

Why are there still people who think the government is doing what it is doing because it being bullied and is incompetent? I prefer the theory that Johson is a eugenicist who has sold out to Bill Gates. Gates is also a eugenicist, a self confessed depopulationist and is the world’s vaccine supremo, a very unhealthy combination.

The concept of compulsory administration of experimental medical treatment rings a bell. I’m sure it was sort of heavily frowned on at one stage. Ah … it was Dr Mengele and the Psycho Stooges.

If the vaccines are designed to kill and that would be no surprise, with Bill Gates behind them, then your very reasonable arguments would be made redundant. I rather think we are well past the time, when the government will worry about public opinion or any inquiries into its manic behaviour.

We are now in a very serious situation, where the government has effectively declared war on its own people and it seems intent on pursuing the war to the bitter end.

Didn’t read it all, but – “It may be necessary for everyone to get an annual vaccine”?! And how much is his party getting from bif pharma?

The thought occurs that we might do worse than campaign for an end to (translucent) conflicts of interest in politics. And science.

It’s good to see some different thinking about this murky business.

Government incompetence has been a non-runner since the late Spring and why people still stick with this seems far from being too rational. Perhaps, the alternatives are just too scary, for most. This realistically only leaves us with the “darker” scenario, which you hint at and which for me has to focus around the Covid vaccines.

I doubt that the vaccines have been over rushed though and it seems likely that they will do, exactly what they are supposed to do. However it is ‘highly likely’ that the vaccines will have very little to do with preventing, or even ameliorating Covid-19.

oh no i i didnt know that about toby and’vaccine’. there is no way in hell i will get that ‘vaccine’.i ts the masks adn the ‘vaccine i hate the most , and the lockdown and the wimps majority ,, so many things to choose from

He whole heartedly embraces the “vaccine” without reservation.

Then he is almost certainly lying.

Completely agree. I tend to increasingly find the comments section contains links to far more incisive articles than those actually offered on the site itself. These have started to shift from the response to Covid being massively disproportionate, to (in the last few days) simply “what a mess the governments have made and essentially, how the NHS is struggling”.

There was a discussion on here about how this site could be compromised through the comments.I don’t think that could work as many posters are very well informed and erroneous arguments are normally taken apart.
It would be easier to corrupt the leader writers and change the tone,slightly at first.At the moment we are being led to mainstream media articles and it is fact that the MSM have been bought off to push the government line.
I may sound paranoid but after 10 months of lies I don’t trust anyone.

Didn’t Herod tell Claudius to “trust no one”? And didn’t this get taken up by the X-Files?

The personality level is the mask. Don’t be phished by the mask and don’t play a masking intent. The masquerade is an insanity entanglement that most of us have adapted to as our means to survive the ‘human world’. The idea of ‘Know Thyself’ is not navel gazing but of reconnecting to our very being instead of running in a mind-modelling of personal and social masking.
I write to a sense of someone worth sharing with. In that I extend trust – but not as a contract seeking agreement or setting terms and conditions.
Reconsidering what anything Is – including trust, has to reach outside of a circular reasoning or presumed ‘reality’ to something real and that is why relationships are the crucible of awakening and NOT what we try to make of them or use them for.

I must say that I tend to head straight for the comments section nowadays whereas at the start of this, the articles were a ‘must read’ every day just to maintain sanity.

I guess Toby has to cater for individuals that are just starting to dip their toe in lockdown scepticism whereas our views are much more concrete now.

I generally skim the main articles but you learn a lot more through the links posted in the comments

Well at least look at the China linkage offered today.

But yes a lot of LDS can be skimmed as representing old and well rutted territory that has no call to plod through over and over again.

The case against lockdown is if anything diluted by persisting in frames of futility. A resource for those who are allowing themselves to question is a relatively done deal, there is no call to be sceptical of THAT deceit is at work. But as to why, how and for what there is a need to stay disciplined.
Perhaps we do not want to go there?
Is sanity a new herd to feel some sense of shared warmth?
Truth has peace and freedom associated with its full acceptance, and fear of truth holds every kind of denial and obfuscation.
Al lot of this is a fear and hate of the evil in the human heart and the attempt to evade and hide it rather than truly look within – when fear says ‘THREAT ATTACK HIDE’
Our minds are not what we think – but of course what we think makes all the difference.

Off-Guardian tends to be more hardcore (realistic) but it needs more articles on the Covid mayhem in the UK, instead of worrying too much about the US elections.

Thats funny I have found that too…straight to the comments and always mean to go back to the articles but somehow never do. I have not read the main articles now since before Christmas I think. I cant see that changing now. It takes huge guts to keep permanently apart from the herd and a lot of people worry about what other people will think about them after a while. I think thats what we are seeing here. People are afraid of being ‘unpersoned’. Personally I prefer the Oscar Wilde saying ‘when everyone agrees with me I must be wrong’.

Perhaps you don’t need to trust anything but your own discernment of truth – and release the idea that anyone should or can meet your conditions?

The self-censoring mind can work in many ways that we may not be aware of – and so even without the gov disinfo shills etc we can manifest all kinds of diversions and ‘safe hangouts’. It’s a work in progress in every one – but in some sense we are talking of those willing to start to question and thus look at and consider what is happening for themselves – and thus as the basis from which they relate to others and their world.

There are a lot of revelations for anyone questioning what had been their ‘reality’ some of which are greatly disturbing but if we abide through there is another level of resource that I could call spiritual or reintegrative.
Paranoia is dissociative and ungrounded. Fears have specific attributes that can be brought into relationship and curiosity – after the ferocious phase has dissipated perhaps.

We are learning about ourselves and our mind and our world in ways that were unavailable while ‘normal’ ticked our boxes. Regardless of who, how and why, that is for most of us here not available – and the ‘new normal’ is bollox or terrifying depending how you see it. But is anything but ‘safe’!

Excellent insight. This is new for all of us and we must never be too trusting.

This site can’t offer everything, but the comments section is the best you’ll find.

I find the comments section of Peter Hitchen’s blog to be very good (discounting the occasional zealot). It’s got some very well informed regular commentators. In fact, the blog itself is a long way short of the quality of views in his comments section.

This site is very twitchy with people still scared of being called or associated with ‘tin-hat-wearing conspiracy theorists’ while the country continues to descend into utter madness and ruin – deliberately.

There is undoubtedly a kind of ‘revisionism’ going on…how long before it becomes ‘lockdowns are ok…they just were not done quickly enough!

Toby knows what is good for him. Who can blame him? When the government clamps down on us Toby will be right on their side. I’m grateful every day for this platform but the events get sour we will see who is on our side..Not many i’m afraid.

Thats because they are. They may well end up joining the other side…stranger things have happened. After all the alleged ‘libertarian’ Christopher Snowden has recently joined the lockdownisters.

Toby’s a softie.

My very first thought when it came to the idea of only allowed out once a week was that that wouldnt even cover doing my shopping (even though I only have to shop for myself/don’t have any pets). As someone that doesn’t have a car yet (because of not being able to afford one) – I go to Tesco once a week just for the stuff from there and am carrying as much as I can possibly manage just from there. I also need to go to my local wholefood shop and wouldn’t have any spare “carrying capacity” for the stuff from there and so how would I manage to get that as well? That’s before we go into my need/right for exercise and there would be people in a worse situation than myself on that front – eg those living in high-rise flats and the like and therefore unable to even, in extremis, do umpteen circuits of their garden in lieu of having a walk. Yep…I calculated I’d have to do around 25 circuits of my garden and attendant walking up and down my road to get in 3 miles worth of “having a walk”.

I don’t have a car and do my shopping in dribs and drabs because there are limits to what I can carry. As for exercise, I live in a not so good area where the “green spaces” are sorry excuses for parks which despite the council’s best efforts are regularly vandalised and strewn with litter. I got fed up with my area during the first lockdown and vowed Never Again.

They don’t have enough police and the army is minuscule. Plus we’ve seen how the police “enforce” the “regulations” and make things up as they go along. We have to hold our nerve because they’re many of us and few of them. And of course they wouldn’t dare go into places like Tottenham, Edmonton, Brixton – they would get beaten up.

My father in law lives on a South London estate he says the gangs were out in March and have been out ever since , every Saturday night loud music in the park no sign of police ever patroling it

I live not far from the North West London HQ of the Met and despite all the anti-social behaviour here over the summer, they did SFA. There was even a murder 5 minutes from where I live and nothing has been heard about that since.

They only go for the easy targets.

Like women having a flask of tea.

They would rely on people policing each other.

Lets hope they get severely beaten up…only the best for the boys and girls in blue.

Could these stricter measures be subtle vaccine coercion?

I agree, i don’t think these polls are reliable.

Yes you have been a naughty boy, if you carry on I will keep you inside during break time. But no journalist ever says, er! could it be your lockdowns are not working?

I keep hoping for a tipping point. None in site. Things will have to get a lot worse. I just don’t care anymore. My personal Liberty is in my head and anybody that invades that space, in or out of uniform, gets repelled. I will get into trouble. It’s inevitable, but necessary.

With regards to the opening article and Toby’s comments regarding cases, would like to have seen some reference to false positives, multiple tests on individuals etc., some reference to over-inflated figures. Please can we not keep referring to polls as accurate measurements, and if so many people are so pro lockdown why the need fir stricter regulations because of non compliance, surely thats a contradiction in terms. Looking at comments in the DT and even the DM, not seeing vast support, quite the opposite.

Yes, I agree. EVERYTHING is being manipulated at the moment. The rule of thumb is believe absolutely nothing that eminates from the MSM.

I think UK society is now much more fragmented than used to be the case, only certain segments of the population are likely to do opinion polls. I think the current situation indicates that this Government is poles apart from much of the British People. I think it also shows that the appalling covid fear propaganda is failing to get to many people. Unfortunately i think the Gov are now panicking themselves, they have invested so much in this nonsense they cannot afford to be seen to fail. They do not know what to do and so are likely to take the only action they can, which is ratchet up the lockdown, which as we know is like trying to turn of your water supply to solve a gas leak.

The pollsters are also manipulating the cross section of those polled to better obtain the answer they want.

He who pays the piper……etc etc

Even if you don’t assume deliberate manipulation, the truth is pollsters don’t have sufficient data to know how to weight categories on this issue. Whereas with political polls we have decades of data about the propensity of one socio-economic group to vote in a particular manner (and can therefore project what shifts mean in a small sample) there is little or no data to group the population for any other question. Political polls group people based on age, sex, race, income group and education – why would those categories necessarily be relevant for attitudes to a virus?

Of course, there are certain beliefs that have been formed (i.e. public sector workers at home on full pay or middle class workers with secure jobs and the ability to work at home are more likely to support lockdown) but those are assumptions and it wouldn’t be safe to assume they are robust enough to scale up to the national population. I suspect some of us here are exceptions to those ourselves.

Interestingly, I have not had a yougov survey for over a week now, since I gave them a strong set of answers on the last survey I did. Definitely choosing the people they poll ‘carefully’.

How often do you normally get them? If that’s an unusual delay and other people have the same experience it would suggest something dodgy is going on.

It always depends on who is paying them to produce what result. If we could crowdfund a poll to say we think the earth is flat, they would poll the right people. LibDems, mostly.

I answer all of the YouGov surveys sent to me but after expressing my anti-lockdown views during the first lockdown I don’t seem to get asked about the government rules just my mental health wellbeing! Cheers YouGov!

Isn’t yougov now sponsored by Bill Gates

Yes – polls are intended to form opinion, not reflect it.

Decision-makers do commission proper private polls, but keep the results to themselves, because information is valuable.

We are in a data-driven pseudo-epidemic (a well known medical concept) arisiing from inadequate testing. There was a big one in the US in 2007. A supposed whooping cough epidemic turned out to be an outbreak of atypical symptoms of the common cold after proper testing. I think there was one relating to measles in the UK some time ago.

There are too many people with a vested interest in the status quo – for-profit testing companies, PPE outfits, bought-and-paid-for scientists, b-a-p-f politicians, Big Pharma, central banksters – for this to change voluntarily.

The measles scare was in the 1990s. It was created because they had shedloads of measles vax that was about to go out of date!

I was doing a shift in the family business on Saturday. One of my customers (a fellow sceptic) was revelling in me that he’d been walking his dog in one of the big city parks here in Liverpool. He said there were people everywhere, barely a mask in sight and zero f**ks given about social distancing.

This was later backed up by other customers who had visited Calderstones, another large park in an affluent part of the city. One told me it was like the football, barely any space to walk on the footpaths. Music to my ears.

“Stay at home, protect the NHS?” We’re laughing at you, Johnson.

Left the UK yesterday, now in Qatar – hotel isolation for a week. Let’s just say terminal 5 was not quiet, my flight busy with most passengers in transit to places beyond Qatar, so not much notice being taken at the don’t travel diktat.
Security staff in Heathrow, I have found the past few years to be jumped up little bossy boots, but they excelled themselves yesterday – possibly taking a leaf from plods book to make our lives so miserable we will comply. They all have masks and now glasses closely resembling a cross between Ali G glasses and ski goggles. One even had black sunglasses, black mask and gloves … oh miss toughy. Had a feeling there was elements of intimidation, orders barked or alternatively some couldn’t even bother to speak and just pointed.. Got a full up and down body frisk 3 times, after the X-Ray and standing there just in jeans, jumper and socks – not sure what the point of that was. Final humiliation was that after the final check in through the boarding gate we were subjected to being sniffed by a slobbering hound before boarding-not our bags, us. Now if these were supposed covid detecting dogs, wondering what action they intended if the dog alerted them that one of us was positive. As everyone had to have a negative pcr result to travel, there was no need for this measure, besides it being frankly a disgrace to be subjected to this without consent, I did ask the dog handler what the object of this dehumanising action was, but I was just stared at and ignored. Are they trying to make the experience so dreadful that we will avoid travelling.
At this end, what a contrast, Yes, documents required, but the move through the airport to transport and then the hotel was done with efficiency and courtesy, more akin to you as a customer rather than an inconvenient nuisance plebe, polite courtesies, a please, would you mind, and madam – doesn’t take much.. What has happened to the UK that makes our security and police so removed from treating people as people.

I agree with your description of airport security staff – they are in a menial job probably minimum wage, but put a uniform on them and wow they convert to being in the blackshirt brigade – overly bossy, authoritarian little shits with an over inflated sense of importance. There are a few exceptions but not many in my experience and I guess this whole shitstorm has made them worse.

Interesting that T5 was not quiet – I went to Greece in Sep and again T5 was busy and I thought people are just getting on with their lives but I had the impression that no-one is travelling with all the fevered brainwashing. But now with all the tests are a real hassle and I’m avoiding travel at the mo due to this and other crazy restrictions and mask wearing etc.

I do believe that they are doing their best to make travel inconvenient, expensive, restrictive and so unpleasant to reduce numbers. They have given no support to the travel/aviation industry. IMHO I think it’s all deliberate to align with their ‘green’ agenda to stop the masses from travel which will be the preserve of the rich.

I assume going to Qatar is more of a long stay if have to quarantine for a week before being let out – you there for holiday or work? Have a great trip!

This may have been flagged before, but worth a reminder:

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/lockdown-zealots-its-you-who-are-the-selfish-ones/

Excellent article – thanks for sharing the link, Annie. Will be sending to others…

Anybody think this is sinister from the WEF? Gave me chills.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wef/status/1348510057948962819

Love the reply tweet though “With all my organs, I hope”.

Why? I don’t follow the logic. Europe’s night trains making a comeback is a good thing per se – ie because it’s trains, rather than planes.

Absolutely, many of the trains were removed in the last few years, would be excellent to get them back. They were much more pleasant than flying.

I would have thought an hour or two on a plane is far cheaper and more convenient

You’ve not tried to pass through Luton Airport at a busy time, MP, have you ?

Why? Night trains are great.

But will we need a ‘vaccine passport’ to use them?

Queuing outside a supermarket is “bending the rules”???????

Ironic given we’re forced to queue due to the need to have fewer people in the shops. Just shows these people have no idea how real life works.

DELUSIONAL ARROGANCE.

Came across a fellow unmasked person in a shop yesterday, battling a drone behind the counter insisting that “the law doesn’t count now as we are in crisis and shouldn’t work together to save the nation”. Politely helped the guy out explaining to her that yes, exemptions do count, and no, they do not need to be justified in a shop”.
It blew over quickly, and was reasonably amicable, but as I stood there next to the stranger talking to the assistant I realised that for the first time I was in a majority. Of three people sure, but I had the force of numbers actually on my side. The isolation of not wearing a muzzle, of being against lockdown, means that outside of friends, sites like this, and obviously protests, you are always alone, so this small moment felt fantastic.
Please, anyone who hates masks but puts them on for an easy road, I get it. But please, the more of us that make a stand, the easier it will get.

“the law doesn’t count now as we are in crisis and shouldn’t work together to save the nation”
Rather terrifying sentiment actually although I wonder if it was “should” rather than “shouldn’t” – even if the law doesn’t forbid something the crisis justifies bans and restrictions. Cynic though I have been for a long time, even I have been shocked by how amenable many Brits are to tyranny.

Sorry, predictive typing. Yes should read “should”.

NOW will you believe that the country’s going to hell in a handcart?!

Come along to the Brighton KBF group danny. Meeting like-minded folk is a key benefit.

There are none so isolated as those who wear masks.

I am glad things worked out OK.

Which shop was that? The employee is opening their employer up to legal action under civil law ( fines up to £5000 / £9000 depending on actions) by even querying a customer for not wearing a mask. The only people allowed to query are police officers, PCSOs, TfL officers and indivduals designated by the Secretary of State for Health.

https://laworfiction.com/2020/09/face-covering-some-pretend-law/

The site has some useful paperwork to support things if needed.

FWIW my local Sainsburys play announcements notifying customers about people who are not able to socially distance or to wear face masks. They are very considerate in that respect. It certainly avoids them falling foul of discrimnation/privacy laws

Here is a link to that loveworld video and the OFCOM notice of sanctions against them.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Agv7JEO8MngCij_-MctNYo0coRCi?e=qPB0eO

The notice is dated April 2020 and contains a transcript of the show.

So how did these guys know in April 2020 the vaccine, vaccination passports, HCQ etc was coming?

I think it was at the back of the minds of many.

Not in the general public nor in the media.

Which country was he talking about, sounds very familiar with the Canadian leak papers

The open letter to the FBI et al is worth downloading and saving to any sceptics computer/phone.
What response it will receive I know not but Imperial College will not be best pleased among others.
If the US Federal Government takes as much notice of this as it did of Sepp Blatter then maybe something will happen?

I think the FBI might be a little busy in upcoming months if what was posted in the comments section last night with regards to election fraud proves correct. So might a lot of other European law enforcement agencies for that matter.

Oh they won’t be worrying about election fraud it worked and they got away with it. No they will be after Trump supporters and other dissidents.

How to conjure up a spike in hospitalisations and Covid deaths in the S/W ?

Transfer ill patients from hospitals in the East of England is how.

Yep, it’s happening in my hospital.But will the local scaremongering “Somerset Live” and “Devon Live’ look at that before they write their multiple doom-laden headlines every day?

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Stay safe; stop the spread.

Yes, exactly this kind of thing!

The current febrile atmosphere and the further threats to our freedom seem very much orientated aroud the NHS. The ruling Junta are terrified of the public seeing the sainted and worshipped NHS fail under their watch. And so if you are the Government you do not know what to do? and so you turn to lockdown even though lockdown is a bit like turning off the gas when you actually have a water leak, pointless.
If you take a simple look at the figures, there are 32294 ‘covid’ patients in hospital, that represents 0.048% of the UK population, ot to put it another way 66177000 (99.95%) people in the UK do not currently have serious ‘covid’. So it is not surprising if people do not really get the need to lockdown. The 0.048 % figure represent 1 in 2200, so if in your local area of 2200 people, 1 person has serious covid, you would hardly think it was a serious problem.

But I am afraid the ruling Junta are so spooked about the NHS that things are going to get worse.

Of the 32,994, many are there ‘with’ COVID as opposed to ‘from COVID’. Critical care occupancy in London as at 3 January was around 300 higher than the same time last year – that’s 1 in 30,000 of London’s population.

I agree Steve that this has always been about “saving the NHS” but I wonder whether this also gives this government the excuse to “reform” it at the same time. Governments have known for a long time that the current model is unsustainable and I for one would be glad to see it reformed. Let’s put in more front line workers and get rid of a lot of the management tiers and quangos.

I laugh about the wonderful NHS and protection. I am sorry why is it my job to protect you. Aren’t you meant to be protecting me? We have spent billions of pounds and still you can’t cope. We closed down schools and still you can’t cope. We shut down pubs, gyms and restaurants and still you can’t cope. We are all fucking stuck indoors and still…… I just wonder! Just saying! Perhaps the NHS is not fit for purpose? Gasp!!!

In the NHS we are currently being asked to make plans and a “wish list” in each department for the NHS 2030 vision. It seems that money is being given to us, with very many strings attached, with a view to “transforming things” by 2030. Those of us who’ve been around the block in the NHS have heard these types of initiatives umpteen times over the years, and they never go anywhere. We asked for the usual basics – sufficient staff, clinic space to see patients (which we don’t have at the moment, hence the difficulty seeing people in outpatient clinics even though we want to) etc etc but all they want is for us to “work differently” and use less qualified people to do very specialised work. Trying to provide a safe and effective service is a constant battle against management diktats these days.

Looking at the DM Online article about further restrictions, there are over 10,000 comments and the top rated ones are very sceptical.

It reads like this comments page, perhaps not as well informed.

A post from Spectator

Jean • 11 hours ago
Dr Roger Hodgkinson has ruined the vaccine party and made most people look stupid.
He spoke at a Medical industry conference in Canada today. What he said was unexpected.
Here is a summary of what he said:
1. There is nothing anyone can do to stop this virus which is NOT on the same scale as Ebola or SARS.
2. It should be treated as a normal flu. Back to chicken noodle soup, vitamins (especially Vit D) and protect the care homes.
3. Lockdowns and mask wearing and the whole vaccine business should STOP TOMORROW. To continue is crazy, outrageous and cruel. The effect that these stupid measures are causing mass Job loss, depression and mental and physical health problems in all ages.
4. Mask wearing is absolutely no ruddy use. None whatsoever. People are acting like lemmings.
5. It is an airborne virus so 2m social distancing rules are based on medical fraud.
6. Give the elderly in care homes high levels of vitamin D. This has been found to prevent and cure covid in the vast numbers of cases. No need for vaccines!
7. He is in the covid testing industry and states categorically that tests should be scrapped except for those presenting at hospital with respiratory conditions. NOBODY else needs the tests. Positive test results on the healthy DO NOT MEAN ANYTHING except feed the frenzy.
REPEAT: END THIS NIGHTMARE TOMORROW! It is nothing but Politics driving Medicine and it HAS TO STOP!
About Dr. Roger Hodkinson.
Dr. Hodkinson is the CEO and Medical Director of MedMalDoctors.
He received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK (M.A., M.B., B. Chir.) where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College.
Following a residency at the University of British Columbia he became a Royal College certified general pathologist (FRCPC) and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists (FCAP).
He is in good Standing with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta, and has been recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.
His testimony has been a severe embarrassment for the Vax Terror establishment which, predictably mobilised its internet resources to quickly try to crush his credibility and so forth.
Too late! The cat is well and truly out of the bag!
He joins a growing band of medical and scientific experts brave enough to put their careers on the line and face the inevitable vicious character assassination and other attacks Big Pharma’s psyops brigade are so good at (they’ve had LOTS of practice) in their effort to alert their fellow citizens to the truth.
Dr Hodkinson’s testimony is precise, authoritative and highly articulate.

https://youtu.be/79hWdSRjAoU

Dismal headline from the Daily Mail today:

Is lockdown about to get TOUGHER? Matt Hancock refuses to rule out curfews or closing nurseries | Daily Mail Online

I can’t see how this will change health outcomes or even be effectively policed for that matter.

Do they not risk a collapse in public consent now?

I think by all practical measures there has been a collapse in public support. I think this is why they are behaving so desperately.

There is certainly a discrepancy between what the polls say people want and what people are actually doing. I suppose it could also be down to society splitting into two distinct camps, not exactly zealots vs sceptics, but people who just want to get on with their lives but don’t necessarily think too deeply about COVID (the ones we see out and about) vs the terrified.

I predict that the ones who just want to get on with their lives will win it for us in the end. Maybe I’m too optimistic.

People aspire to a national lockdown, ie they want to be seen to do the right thing and ‘save granny’ but they cannot quite face up to the sacrifice required. It makes them normal, not cruel or selfish.

Pretty much. It’s another thing that the so called behavioural experts have failed to take into account. Leaving aside the fact that lockdowns have been a failure in disease control, another reason that they simply cannot work is that the people imposing them have failed to take human nature into account.

They continually blame the ‘rule breakers’, yet almost everybody is a ‘rule breaker’ in one way or another with regards to lockdowns and social distancing, whether willingly or not. It’s because the policy is incompatible with human nature and cannot be sustained over such a long period.

So what do they propose? They propose that the police get up close and personal with people doing things like sitting alone on benches, which is unnecessary close contact and a breach of their own disease control protocol. It just cannot work.

Replying to myself here as I can’t edit my post anymore.

I wanted to add, that what they’ve done is devised a behavioural policy that does not take the nature of the people responsible for following it into account. They may not like the fact that people bend and break their rules, but whether they like it or not, people are always going to and they cannot control that. It’s impossible.

It’s the same with every set of rules, whether in industry or in public life. If you devise a policy which fails to take into account the nature of those expected to follow it, it will either fail or lead to outcomes that you did not plan for. I think that’s what’s happening here. I’ve seen bad managers go down the same road.

Also, non-compliance is being interpreted as an ‘evil’ when really it should be seen as a ‘signal’. When shock ads, makeshift mortuaries and pleas to ‘save granny’ don’t work it’s not because we are a cruel or hard people. It’s because we feel the price we are paying to save our vulnerable and old has a limit, one that was breached months ago. The government risk mass non-compliance and when that line is crossed this whole thing is over. They need to devote all resource to vaccinating those who want it so that the fear is taken out of all this and the testing can stop.

Yeah absolutely. Nobody (well no-one I know anyway) wants to kill a granny.

Those who suggest that anybody does is either using emotive language to try and manipulate (and many are), or they are so out of touch that they think that human beings can be directed to behave as predictably and uniformly as water flowing through a pipe. Well they can’t because as you say, everybody has a limit and everybody has different interests. It’s not evil it’s normal.

Those who genuinely believe that lockdowns can work don’t seem to acknowledge that human beings behave very unpredictably. They see us as drones moving around in a perfectly orderly system. It’s just not like that, they need to accept this or they will continue to fail.

Ah yes, but which granny do we want to kill? So its okay for the granny with cancer, heart disease, lung and liver problems dementia and depression to die? But hey we saved the one with covid. Oh wait, no we didn’t, they all died because we chucked them out of hospital back into care homes!

Indeed, the whole ‘strategy’ is nonsense if the aim is to ‘save lives’.

absolutely: the divide is between the terrified [which could be further subdivided into the terrified of covid/the terrified of the slide into global totalitarianism – in other words, sceptics and zealots, both a minority, are paradoxically on the SAME side] vs the ‘normies’ who really don’t give a shit and don’t think deeply about any of it – these are overwhelmingly the majority – so I guess it’s a battle between the 2 minorities for control of this group

Definitely. It’s a battle for the middle group. The middle group is naturally inclined to want to resume normal life, so we have an advantage in that regard, hence the recent attempts to ramp up the fear and ‘crack down’. They aren’t cracking down and pumping out propaganda to frighten or influence us sceptics, they are well aware that they won’t change our minds.

They are trying to pull the middle group back their way, because that group is getting bored of this.

I think there are actually 3 camps. The genuinely scared shitless who willingly comply. The stupid, uninformed, who want to get on with their lives but reluctantly comply. And us, the free thinking, freedom loving, independent minded, sceptics, who will NEVER comply.

Well it’s true that ‘hardcore’ sceptics like us and frightened lockdown zealots are also two groups, but neither is probably anywhere near a majority.

The ‘compliant middle’ comply up to a point with the ‘easy stuff’ like masks in shops, but how many of them have genuinely had no social contact for months or stick closely to social distancing rules etc? In my experience not that many of them, even though they might occasionally pay lip service to how bad the COVID is and are somewhat wary of it when they remember to be…

Look at the comments there. Further restrictions are not popular.

Yes. I wonder whether this was a sounding out exercise. We are at the limits now.

You couldn’t make it up.

Around 30-40,000 excess lives lost in a year, around 7,000 people under 75, in a country of around 60 million (England and Wales).

A government that has starved the health service of cash over the last 10 years, and now it is too weak to handle demand, so curtails nearly all movement including kids going go school, despite any evidence this has any effect. Peoples lives are wrecked, especially the poorer in society.

A hospitalisation rate lower than in previous years but a critical care occupancy slightly higher (see yesterday’s post) once the huge increase in older people is taken into account.

NHS staff self-isolating and not attending work on the basis of the most dubious tests riddled with false positives.

And, to cap it all, an opposition leader who, instead of blaming the government for needlessly destroying the lives of the people, supports these insane policies and asks for more.

What is wrong with Boris and Keir ?

In a word:
Evil.

The government has NOT starved the NHS of cash. Go read the NHS budgets. They go UP every year.

What has happened is allocation of more and more money to middle management. So it’s a bung for all the “important” managers but sucks resources from other places.

Wish I could double double up tick your comment!
It was explained to me years ago: the money is handed to the NHS administrators, and administrators spend it mostly on administration not front line services.

All my family are medical and parents’ friends are mostly doctors, plus one retired administrator. All except him agree that there was always plenty of money in the NHS but it’s all in the wrong place. Axe the administration!

Case study remains Northumberland, where all A&E departments were shut pending construction of a single A&E centre at Cramlington. Northumberland is quite big. Emergency cases ambulanced up to 60 miles along winding country roads to Cramlington for assessment before being transferred to other hospitals for treatment. Often, therefore, no ambulances available in time. Cramlington is a wonderful hospital but hopelessly overstretched. The aforementioned administrator had to drive his wife 50 miles to Cramlington in the middle of the night when she had a stroke and no ambulance was forthcoming. (She’s fine.)

Only a committee of experts could contrive to spend so much public money in such a wasteful and insane way. They are now reopening A&E departments in other parts of the county.

From the US but highly relevant:

Growth in numbers of administrators and physicians 1970-2009

Growth in salary costs of administration and physicians 1970-2009

The data only goes up to 2009, so it is undoubtedly worse now. We definitely have a US-style health care in these respects.

Absolutely there is a lot of money sloshing round in the NHS. It just doesn’t go where it’s needed or worthwhile, hasn’t for years.

This is not true, we the NHS have set up a group to investigate this claim, it is made up of senior consultants paid a £1000 a day. We also have ten new diversity officers to make sure they all are aware of their pronouns. This group will be supported by 25 senior managers from each area. We are setting up a new computer system run by a senior manager and a new group of programmers to analyse the data. Thus we will show there is no waste in the glorious NHS.

Keir? He is looking a bit wan these days.

It does make you laugh. Lockdown has now been proven to be a complete failure when asked to go up against WINTER; a season where a lot of people like staying indoors anyway.

But what of those clowns, those chin scratchers that feigned a degree of informed knowledge back in December? You know the ones – Matt Hancock keeps their area Tier 2 and they – after careful consideration – think ‘well, I would’ve put us in Tier 3, just to be safe’. The jokers never envisaged a Tier 4 or beyond, just striking a slightly more cautious (and therefore virtuous) position than the government. A government who are also completely winging it. Laughable.

These are the individuals that need to be derided. Absolute whoppers of the silliest kind.

When MH put West Suffolk in T2 it had the third lowest rate in the whole of England.

They have to keep changing the rules every few weeks to keep 1984 Health Act loophole open. The laws are all based on ‘severe and imminent’ issues. Something that happened 9 months cannot be considered imminent. The CFR has dropped from 20% to 2% (give or take) but the ‘cases’are going up / new infectious variants, etc, etc keep it ‘severe’ and ‘imminent’. Hey presto, random changeo, permanent lockdown.

Errr… I thought the meeting was top-secret?

Shhhhh, we will be talking quietly! 007 eat your heart out!

My rights and freedoms are not to be granted or taken away by the government in some bizarre attempt at managing demand in the health service. I have never accepted lockdown and never will. I will never vote for the Conservatives after doing this to me and I will never vote Labour because they wanted to go further. To hell with them all

Opting out isn’t an option.

The trouble is who would you vote for? I am really left with going down the Peter Hitchens route of spoiling the ballot paper and just writing none of the above.
I expect that come the next election many on this site will find themselves in that position.
The words of the old song keep coming up in my head these days;
‘I hear the voices of those that’s gone on before
and i don’t feel at home in this world anymore’



we need another party – reform, brexit, whatever

I don’t care about its manifesto as long as it includes ‘we shouldnt have done lockdown and wont ever do it again’ – preferably for the May elections (if they go ahead)

do you really think we’re ever going to get another election? I don’t. they will realise that they don’t even need to pretend any more that they are the servants of the people , and will quite openly acknowledge their true masters

Yes talk of delaying elections until September is so obvious. The ‘crisis’ will be back by then.

Was looking forward to Nigel saving us, then he suggested putting fucking Tony Blair in charge of the vaccine. WTF?

Useful – Farage showing his true colours.

Its game over for him.

I spoiled my ballot during the last London mayoral elections. If enough of us did it, they will have to do a round 2.

I will never vote Conservative ever again. And if Labour, the Lib Dems and Green think they’re going to get my vote they’re sorely mistaken.

A plague on all their houses.

I’m afraid to say I voted for that shitweasle Khan out if old aligences. Never again if we ever get the chance.

That’s why the elections should go ahead if only to tell that shitweasel that he’s been weighed on the balances and found wanting.

Never again for any of them…I can never forgive this.

I suppose you could go live in the woods- off grid and below the radar. Not everyones cup of tea though.

Unfortunately there does not seem to be a mainstream party that is obviously against lockdowns.

If there are elections in May (and it is a massive if, considering these bastards want to suspend democracy) who can we vote for to protest at how our freedoms have ben stolen? – should we just spoil our ballot papers ?

If May’s elections are postponed, it will give opposition parties longer to get their ducks in a row. That’s good.
However I doubt the idiots in government have thought of this aspect to postponement, they’re too busy patting themselves on the back for saving us all from a deadly pandemic.

Handjob was genuinely shocked that people think of him as the architect of lockdown and misery and not the saviour with the jab.

Local elections are not so ‘mainstream party oriented’. Chance of one or two sensible candidates, surely ?

I think you will never be given a chance to vote again. Democracy is dead.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/10/london-hospital-trust-cancels-urgent-cancer-surgery-covid-barts

Cancer patients now abandoned; desperately ill and despairing sufferers consigned to NHS limbo.

Probably our fault because we had a coffee on a bench…

And I went out twice the other day!

KILLER!

Will I be tarred and feathered? The way things are going now,will my plea of necessity count in my favour?

You will be locked in your room and made to watch Julie Andrews running over an Austrian mountain on a loop. The hills are NOT alive!!

They are alive with the sound of covid!

Think you should be made an example of. Perhaps the stocks, people could arrange their exercise period in turns to ridicule you, as long as they are local and not carrying a cup of coffee.

Perhaps people could hurl their discarded muzzles at offenders rather than dropping them randomly in the street (aka careful disposal of potentially toxic medical waste).

So it’s happening already. As predicted all year by the wicked Professor Karol Sikora among many others, people are now being handed cancer death sentences “because of covid”. And these figures are going to dwarf the covid statistics in the end, and will of course affect all ages.

Went to upvote you, and could not bring myself to do so. So horribly true.

So true; and look at the poison denunciations and ad hominem attacks levelled at Professor Sikora recently.

One of our leading, most respected oncologists denounced by the likes of Owen Jones:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-censorious-war-on-lockdown-sceptics

I keep recalling the plight of young father Sherwin Hall, who died aged 27, having fallen victim to the suspension of specialist cancer treatments ‘because of covid’.

He spent months begging for a scan,knowing full well that he was seriously ill, only to have the diagnosis finally confirmed ,after which treatment was cancelled.

all the deaths will be marked as COVID too as they will manage to test them somehow before death. Coughing due to lung cancer is a well known symptom of COVID don’t you know

Can you imagine what sort of utterly sick medic us going up to a dying patient and sticking a swab up his nose and down his throat just to get another number for the covid score. There should be a whole new level of hell for these fuckers!

Wouldn’t it be illegal/unlawful to deny anyone a place at a FE college on the basis of not having had a vaccine? these vaccines are experimental.

Private operations. They can exclude who they like. Just like Twitter.

Not if all of them do it.

Yes if all of them do it. Just like in the USA where all of the private companies are excluding people they don’t like.

Look at what is actually happening.

FE Colleges are publicly funded. And i don’t think it would be lawful for Tesco to operate such a policy.

Yep. Carrying out a function of the state,therefore Human Rights Act etc applies.

isnt it discriminating against people with allergies who cant take it?

Are they private – I thought they received money from the government

FE colleges get funding for 16-18 year olds, some sort of levy payment for apprenticeships and hardly anything at all for adult learners. So yes they are funded by the government not private.

This isn’t something I’ve heard about at work (I work in an FE college) just about the desire to test the students & staff though tiis is only to be strongly encouraged not mandatory.

JHB going on about BigTech censorship of Donald Trump. Hasn’t she heard, he’s on Gab now.

And saying he incited the crowd. If you actual listen to his speech he did none of that. There was a rally at Capitol Hill afterward. Brandon Straka (Walk Away) was slated to speak at it. That is what Trump was referring to.

Plus bombs were laid at various buildings DURING his speech.

So much disinformation as usual

Well they have not told the truth for four years why start now. Did you hear sleepy Joe slurring his opinion? So this is the best you have?

From ‘Die Losung’ (Brecht)

After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers’ Union
Had leaflets distributed on the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could only win it back
By increased work quotas. Would it not in that case be simpler
for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?

Please look at Sweden’s annual deaths….
Total deaths 2020 the same as the previous 9 years…

Yep. Even with what they did with care homes. I suspect the UK will be similar within expected variation.

No lives were saved anymore than the tide comes in and out.

But many many businesses, relationships and TRUST have been destroyed

Ah but on Thursday at 8 our wonderful fat pig dictator is going to stop the tide wearing nothing but a face mask. All hail our glorious leader!

Also worth noting the population has increased around 10% over this period, and that 2019 figures were particularly low.

They have just hidden all the extra bodies in the same location as the Strategic Steam Reserve. /s

A I understand, a lot of the pressure in the NHS is due to staff testing positive and having to isolate.

Why don’t they just get these people to work on the covid wards?

Supercovvifragilisticexpicovvidocious!

thanks you gave me my first chuckle of the day

Even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious!!

If you take tests long enough you’re sure to be infectious…..

You know you can say it backwards which is “ dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirupus “.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nWAB056DyE

A giggle version.

I’m sure Boris Johnson has uttered that at least once in his life

That’s too sensible a question, it doesn’t require 3 committees, 25 managers, 4 external management consultants and 250 billion pounds, therefore it’s not a feasible idea.

Also the reason why they have shut schools to stop the nurses having to stay at home as Johnny has the sniffles.

Educashun is going to be built back better (sic).
The idea of destroying to create is an old Jehovan idea brought back by evolutionary zealots who see extinction events as a once in an epoch opportunity to remake the world in their own image as evolution clearly goofed in making them! Except they project their own ‘work in progress’ as unworthiness of life to Others and to their World – so as to be the role of judge set apart and over Life itself. Wot a caper!

Choke points operate the mechanism of control.
Limitation can be used to deny all but what is left on the table.
Many assume a common purpose that surely will come to recognise what works!
But control operates to protect an agenda given priority – as the conditions that are set for Life to ‘work under’.
There is a control agenda not just in global monopolism – but within the minds of the people who effectively support and demand an unconsciousness or separation from responsibility – for the illusion of freedom under ‘control’.
How much of our own life is running as an expression of narrative control and how much is a genuinely felt, lived and shared presence?

The ‘covid health service’ has replaced the NHS and the biosecurity state is replacing the ‘healthcare (sic) paradigm as a systemic control via the back door – or did I miss something?

The testing is all – or 99.98% – meaningless. We know how to treat and care for colds and flu and a lot else – but Pharma operates the choke points – to ‘make an offer you cant refuse’ Ghislaine Lanctot was right. Her book is easy to find.

The Russian response to covid.

The counter covid strategy of the Moscow administration is worth looking at.

I got my information from the website of the Mayor (Sergey Sobyanin).Link: https://www.mos.ru/en/city/projects/covid-19/

Moscow has a population of 12 million and there have been 12,000 covid related deaths. This death rate is similar to ours – 1 in 1,000.

Most Muscovites live in 1970s style blocks of flats. Living conditions may be cramped and it will be difficult to avoid neighbours in lifts and on stairs.

Significant points:

Everyone can get an immunity test.

Lockdown restrictions are miniscule compared with ours. Cafes, hotels, night clubs are all open. Concert halls, cinemas and theatres are open – with a maximum of 25% of capacity.

People are encouraged to go to the office but 30% of workforce must work from home.

Mass gatherings are limited to 50 people.

Front line medical staff at covid hospitals get a bonus. They live in hotels.

Anyone who has so much as a runny nose must contact the health service. If a doctor diagnoses covid the patient will be assessed to see if they require hospital care. To stay at home they must be under 65 and have a separate room to use.

Those treated at home will have antiviral, anticoagulants and an oximeter delivered to them. They have 24/7 access to a call centre.

There are over 100 mobile emergency units that visit people at their home when required.

I think that the Russian response in terms of imposing restrictions are proportionate. Providing rapid treatment to people in their homes where possible has to be right. The Russians have created special covid hospital units which they are able to keep properly staffed (I think).

The Mayor’s website presents the relevant information very clearly. I also like the tone. It does not seek to instil fear and guilt into those that go to it for advice.

I’ve been following Russian news for sometime now,and, at the risk of sounding like a red-under-the-bed, I suspect that the Russian approach will be more effective than our shambolic covidisaster.

The Russian approach is certainly doing far less damage to society as a whole. Small businesses are still able to operate, actors and performers can get paid, most people can get out of their apartment to go to work.

Social pressure is very strong in Russia. The streets of Moscow are largely free of litter – and rough sleepers are rarely if ever seen. The conforming to covid rules rate by the public will be high.

If the WHO and ‘friends’ are in fact aligned with the hegemonic banking and corporate cartel interests – then some kind or defection may be wiser than a head on confrontation.
Sputnik is a known vaccine. It does not significantly degrade the stock nor allow the installation of a nanoparticulate operating system into people.
So Indeed Russia has a sense of its own interests or perhaps is an agreed region in which a different experiment is underway. For there is a view that global governance is active in all but name and different regions are selected to test out different approaches and results are fed into the ‘machine intelligence’ of systemic control.
The Russian model seems to be one in which traditional values are kept – such as family and religion – but of course under the aegis of a state that has to not only hold order for many diverse peoples and interests but hold against extreme and ingenious attempts to undermine them from by a US NATO that is part of the military industrial complex – and one with a broad spectrum of other weaponised leverage – including ‘medical’ authority.
The complex of complexes is an entanglement that can indeed be called shambolic.
My sense is a pivot (sellout) to the East (china) and that our leaders (sic) have sold us as biological carbon units for system processing.
Machine thinking generated machine solutions.
The prospect of machine ‘solutions’ sparks a Call to the Human Spirit – that is an release of machine thinking and its managed reality to a real relationship for which we (mostly) are untrained and afraid to open or abide in. But what we bring TO our relationships sets the measure of our receiving.

Both Russia and China took notice of the sudden appearance of the pathogen and built dedicated isolation hospitals. These will probably have a long and useful life given the US has ousourced its bioweapons research into countries close to their borders. The markers indicate countries with labs, not number of labs. There are 6 in Ukraine alone.

In the west, we mix covid & non-covid cases in the same hospital.

A laugh from the past – which countries are best prepared for a pandemic in 2019.

It’s still over the top. The best strategy was to do nothing. Society was already being a bit more cautious but all this social distancing and transmission stuff is just models. You cannot stop a virus/anything doing what it does except looking after your own health.

And I’m not sure that randomly doling out anticoagulants for self-administration at home is a very good idea, unless you want people to die of brain haemorrhages and intestinal bleeding instead of covid. Unless by “anticoagulant” they mean “aspirin”, in which case fine.

Its easy to bleed to death by aspirin and was a significant case of death in 1918 when Bayer patented it and then Monsanto took it as their world market when the patent ran out.
The public is uneducated and conditioned to binary instructions such as to invest in panacea wishfully and sometimes fatally or at great cost to life.

Yes, if it was up to me we would do as you suggest but if you are in the position of the Mayor of Moscow you are more or less forced to impose some restrictions when genuine covid cases increase. Imagine what the world press would say if no covid restrictions existed in Russia.

They can go fuck is what I would say, like Sweden did. If you don’t follow established practices for determining if measures are safe and have a net cost benefit then you are worse than the virus.

For me I agree. But the issue was not a real pandemic as such but the lockstepped blitz of an active operational drill without the real casualties. Note there are people who die and many died prematurely from mistreatment, lack of treatment and a range of deficiencies and morbidities to which ‘covid19’ was assigned (until switched to ‘coronavirus’ and ‘cases’ arising from tests fraudulently contrived or assigned and inetrepreted (and all the above).
Belarus and One of the African countries indicated back room ‘incentives’ to comply. I believe the African leader has since been replaced.
To any one who looks under the hood the ‘economic hit man’ is simply how hegemonic agendas operate.
Do you want a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs?
Afghanistan got both.
So my point is that the way shadow power operates is masked over by our mainstream ‘reality’ and that the higher one goes in any sphere of influence the more one learns or is required not to ask, speak of or disclose.
Only in mainstreamland does it seem as if we can work together to solve our probems – and manipuative intent uses these intentions to mask a private self-serving agenda in – Save the world! Feed the starving! Eradicate sickness! But always DOES the very thing it says to save from, while the need to believe it keeps the rank and file driving and funding the energy and money supply to masking deceit running within our own minds.

Which I believe Belarus are doing? Would be interesting to see if we could get some reliable statistics / feedback from there.

Depends. I have asthma and chest colds/runny nose every winter are part and parcel of my life. By the standards above, I’d be in semi-permanent contact with the health service from November through February.

A friend of mine in her mid seventies, was approached by an agitated eighty plus year old neighbour, her despair was that she wanted to book in for her vaccination. She didn’t know how to book it on line, never used the internet. Only earlier in the week the lady had driven another neighbour to a local clinic to get his. Seeing her distress my friend took her iPad in to book the appointments. As the designated clinic was out of the area, my friend also has arranged to take her and wait in her car whilst she receives her jab. The appointments are twelve weeks apart, which seems to go against the manufacturers advice. The NHS seems to think that everybody has access to the internet, also when sending out letters, they should note the age and make sure they can attend a local clinic. Why are they causing such unnecessary stress.

Over 80s least likely to be online and least likely to be still driving.

Public health stupids are not bright enough to know that.

Most of them are well paid apple iphone and watch users who talk about the frames of their latest glasses.

The system is everything. People are expendable or ‘collateral damage’ Its a ‘side effect’ of delivering the ‘Solution’. The ability to believe the narrative manipulation as ‘caring’ is one of the most deeply disturbing realities to meet in others, and there is not a lot one may say or do if they are set in such a choice by forces and beliefs they have no capacity to re-evaluate. To follow the advices one must retrain to override all common sense because Dr WHO says or as we see more clearly now, because simple Xi man says.
Compassion is not part of a biosecurity state. Nor is is part of soul-less financial-corporate agenda.
But driving up fear and hate is a necessary leverage for the turning of the mind against itself and of society – people- against each other.
Perhaps there are some who are induced to actually believe that such evils are the necessary price for their ‘saved world from … (insert targeted narrative leverage here)

It might be easy to despair at the utterly dismal headlines in today’s papers, but take heart: we are winning. They have banned and shut down everything there is so the only thing left is ridiculous and nonsensical measures like masks outside and leaving the house once a week.

They are panicking precisely because people are out and about more. The rigged polls may not reflect it but there is a certain section of society who may necessarily not be hardline sceptics, but who just want to get on with life and forget about Covid. It is these people who will tip us over the edge and it is these people who are making the government panic and lose control. Don’t let the MSM dupe you into thinking that everyone supports lockdown and that you are selfish and immoral for wanting your life back – they don’t and you’re not.

Keep going. We are winning.

Well said, Poppy – as always.

That’s the spirit!

Hear, hear!!!! This is the government panicking because they’re losing control.

Even with the threats of police, people are still more determined on getting out and about than lockdown 1. We need to stay strong and positive in our minds.

Anyone who says to me now, ‘isn’t it terrible in the UK’, I reply with, ‘yes, it’s amazing how all those constant severe lockdowns and mandatory mask wearing haven’t worked. Wouldn’t you think the government had worked that out by now’. I’ve not had one comeback. I just hope our government is paying attention.

I have played in football teams where the managers were cup chucking shouters. It works for a while but eventually you just switch off and ignore what they are saying. The problem is after screaming and shouting you have nowhere to go. You shout at everyone, even the ones doing the right thing and trying their best this is totally demotivating. The best managers use persuasion, motivation and use the raised voice infrequently to shock and motivate. The best managers prefer the quiet word. This government is only shouting, its treating us all like children, blaming all for perceived wrongs when the majority are complying. So now most people have stopped listening.

“treating us like children” – in a way, but a good parent will also realise that if you shout at your kids too often it quickly loses its effect.

A bad parent will seek to undermine the spirit of their children and use them to extend and support their own identity.

I worked for a manager like that previously. Eventually I walked off the job and sent a resignation letter to head office outlining his abusive behaviour. His excuse was that he wasn’t shouting at me – only the other staff! The company gave me a job at another branch after the event.

“Blaming society makes it awfully easy for a person of weak character to shrug off his own responsibility for his actions.”— Stanley Schmidt

“He that hath liberty ought to kepe it wel, for nothyng is better than liberty.”
― William Caxton

There is a conspiracy theory doing the rounds that a food shortage in on the way globally – I could see only being allowed to shop once every two weeks coming and Boris encouraging the public to eat less to protect the NHS to cover up this event.

I have found this year that all my clients are totally pissed off with things. These are all people who gave the govt the benefit of the doubt last spring but have seriously have enough now. Thats why the government are sounding more desperate.

The letter sent to the FBI may have been sent to the wrong three lettered organisation as the FBI technically have no jurisdiction outside of the USA. It is the CIA that has that honour. Also it should have been sent to MI6 in this country (although they know about it now anyway through this website).

Yeah like the apparent seditious attempted coup at the capitol building. I some how think the vast amount of money & effort spent on surveillance spying on just about everyone the security agencies & the deep state would know if this was happening. People just have to face the fact socialism is rife throughout our institutions the communist enemy is attacking us from within not from the outside.

I thought Operation Gladio did away with socialism so as to grow a GM version – ie – without that quality of actual solidarity and support in love of life. Dangerous – that, under any guise. I’m being a bit provocative here but the protagonists here are global banking and corporate monopolism – not a rising tide of human beings seeking a better life.

I walked the streets delivering anti-lockdown leaflets yesterday. I imagine nearly all of them were torn up as soon as they were picked up from the doormat, but I thought it was worth doing. I felt very nervous. It seems I am a coward. Perhaps somebody would call the police, I thought, or report me for doing something other than exercising while outdoors. At one point a woman rushed out of her house with the leaflet and gave it back to me, saying it was dangerous rubbish. Quite a number of people saw me stopping at every door and putting something through, but none of them said anything. I suspect they thought I was doing something ‘official’.

A coward would not have gone ahead despite your concerns, Bravo Edmund.

Good on you I don’t think these are the actions of a coward, very brave thing to do.

What you’re doing is courageous. KBO.

I think you’re quite the opposite of a coward. It’s normal to feel apprehension when going up against the biggest propaganda operation ever to hit these shores.

Wear a hi viz jacket and you’ll look totally official.

Very brave – and the fact that you HAVE to be “very brave” to put leaflets through people’s doors at the moment shows exactly how dire the situation is.

Edward so did I, and like you, felt nervous. The climate wasn’t quite so bad last Monday when a woman called to me from her doorstep waving the leaflet. My heart sank- but it turned out that she was so relieved that someone thought the same as she did! Things have got more tense since then though. Glad to hear of another postie! Not seeing any posters going up in local windows, however.

Bravery has many forms. You did well, good job.

I’d like to award you my spike medal of action above and beyond the call. I satute you well done

Excellent idea. And kudos for having the guts to go through with it.

I don’t know what you put on the leaflets, but I would keep it simple – maybe one leaflet with Chris Whitty’s statement about covid being harmless to the great majority (+youtube url to allow sceptics to check), another with two graphs combined: total fatalities cf Steve_w below and total ‘cases’ which should obviously show how much milder the disease is. Maybe some of the cartoons seen on this site – eg child torn away from Granny (assuming the cartoonist is OK with that) etc

This film is based on a letter by an international team of professionals, researchers and activists, calling for an expedited investigation into scientific fraud in public health policies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB1Gphvlsm8&ab_channel=TheVeryOpinionatedKateWandShow

A.R. Norman…..That’s more like it.

Its an epidemic of leftist ideology from indoctrination centres i.e. schools & universities. We’ve allowed entitled comfortable middle class liberals to move politics to far left.

Trump happened because of the neo-liberal democrats not because of Trump! Brexit happened because of the neo-liberal EU not because of bigotry! Lockdowns happened because of a creeping new neo-liberal pseudo-socialism that has infiltrated every level of civil & public service coupled with an ever more increasing risk aversion to living.

Socialism = authoritarianism! It’s that ugly class war again & its not the working class demanding a socialist agenda, the liberal left have abandoned the poor for identity politics. The only thing of greater importance than the covid fraud in 2020 was the racist fraud, all the while comfortable middle class liberals who can afford lockdowns are creating a huge level of poverty that will grow for years into the future.

Covids legacy will be poverty, mitigation measures will likely cause greater damage to economy & society than climate change & we know who to blame.

I’m not sure I’ve ever read anything more ignorant. Neo-liberalism is defined as the most extreme form of capitalism, nothing whatsoever to do with the left. Can I recommend Oscar Wilde’s ‘The Soul of Man under Socialism’ in which he complains: “ Many of the socialistic views which I have come across seem tainted with ideas of authority.” The Socialism Wilde advocates is the Corbyn type ‘For the many, not the few’.

Jesus put Marx’s communist manual down for a second. Do you understand what “ pseudo ” means?

I suggest you research communism aka an extreme form of socialism, socialism is a liberal middle class ideology, every socialist leader has been a middle class liberal! eg. Corbyn. Foot, stalin!

Nihilistic Neo-liberals have adopted a pseudo-socalist ideology to advance their agenda to destroy traditional conservative values which are the only thing standing in the way of their globalist power grab.

Do you honestly believe identity politics is an act of do gooders, that its just coincidence its the opposite of all traditional conservative values & traditions and strongest advocates are globalists? Its corporate socialism of the most evil kind, collectivism of all shades is insidious and counter to liberty.

The ignorance my friend is owned entirely by you, which indoctrination centre did you attend?

I dispute the comment by Mr Barr that the public is on the governments side, just because an Opinium, IPSOS or YOUGOV poll says so. I suspect the internal polling the government is getting is telling them a different story. That they feel the need to ramp up fear, using Billy Whitty this morning (lying again about outdoor spread), have Police on the BBC threatening fines for law that doesn’t exist, same with supermarkets and muzzles, confirms this at least in my mind.

Keir Starmer needs to think again on his proposal to close nurseries. The numbers of vulnerable, or potentially vulnerable children is beyond what most would imagine. The welfare of toddlers should come above political games and nurseries play a massive role in many children’s safety. That guy is no good of that I have no doubt.

You could be right about the internal polling, and I hope you are. This situation does remind me a little of the run-up to the Brexit referendum. The opinion polls all showed Remain ahead, but the way that Cameron started acting more and more desperate suggested that (rightly) he didn’t believe them.

Positive tests in London, despite doing 30% more tests now than, peaked on the 29th Dec.

Tier 4 worked then! Joking of course. I would say this suggests pressure on London hospitals should be peaking by now, but I’m not convinced it’s anything to do with covid specifically. Either way if fewer people are in with a positive test that’s good.

at some point deaths from covid will have to max out at total deaths. you cant have more people dying of covid than actually die and deaths are currently about normal for the time of year

Steve, you are absolutely right on this.

I also think I owe you an apology because I misread a graph you showed yesterday. It was of R versus time. I think mistook the peak of the plot for when R = 1. I haven’t been back to check…but anyway keep up the good work.

no worries!

Can you add references & an explanation of 2SD & 3SD?

SD: Standard Deviation. Mathematical measure of variation from predicted value.

I explained a bit in a later post and reference

Today’s blackboard howl of protest (note to Sarah Vine, mine’s genuine):

So, yet another assault on our hard-fought for liberties. Wake up and smell the coffee (in here!) before it is too late.

Just ask yourselves: Cui Bono ?

Well said!!! Great LS message with a plug for your business.

Like it!

Thanks. Just as I was chalking on the ‘Wake up …’ bit, I thought why the hell not. Probably get a visit from the rozzers for my trouble.

Love it!

Wish I had a decent coffee shop like yours nearby, I’d visit every day!

Cui bono? Is that the one which is half hot soya milk?

Ha ha (our only concession to the alt-milk brigade is the oat stuff!). I’m waiting for someone to ask what U2 has got to do with it!

Took me a second or 2 to make the connection to U2! Duh!
Thumbs up for the oat stuff BTW, rather good with a strong coffee bean anyway.

you should create one called.. wait for it….. the PICNIC

That’s brilliant, thanks for that. Tomorrow’s board sorted.

your welcome – let us know how it goes down with the sheeples

Bravo on using oat milk only.

I am especially against almond milk since I learned about the environmental damage the almond industry in California does. And 80%os so of almonds come from there.

Son just showing me a facebook comment from ambulance crews and their experiences in dealing with call outs to suicides.

Big ramp up in them this year from the past going from a few to double digits to 34 a week in their station and rising.

More collateral damage.

That ties in with the Tweet from the London Air Ambulance 2-3 months ago about the rise of call out to suicides that they were getting. A tweet that the Samaritans disgracefully rubbished.

I know of more people who committed suicide in the last year than of/with Covid.

Yes, me too. All anecdotal (thankfully I don’t personally know anyone who died), but I heard about one 85 year old who died of/with Covid. Suicides, I heard of three 20-somethings and two 40-somethings….

While I realise the OP is about Covid related suicide and the link below covers suicide related to bullying in schools, it is shocking to learn the UK Governmet refuses to collect data on child suicide. MPs, all of them (650 odd) have spurned the campaign to help protect children from suicide. The campaigners have had more support from overseas governments than our own MPs.

Are suicide figures in the general population collected by ONS?

“The UK Government’s scandalous cover-up of bullying, violence and suicide in schools”

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/uk-governments-scandalous-cover-bullying-violence-and-suicide-schools

This is a recent excellent in depth interview.

Have you got a link? Those of us on social media could be hammering it with this message; it might cause some wavering among the “well we have to save lives” crew.

The only groups near the beach this weekend, were in uniform.

The police have lost the respect of even their strongest supporters. Which could lead to something I haven’t seen discussed much, the potential for rising crime rates.
With a force that has lost credibility, rising poverty and an angry population, I can’t see a way in which this is avoided.

Certainly they’ve cried “wolf” so often as well. Using “cuts”, “poverty” and “racism” to explain why they couldn’t solve REAL crimes like grooming gangs, burglary, anti-social behaviour, knife crime, etc won’t wash with the public anymore.

It never washed with me in the first place.

“Credible and true.” Those were the words that lost the police my respect and support. But in a world where all that matters is WHAT I FEEL ABOUT STUFF, TWITTER, who cares about pettifoggery like the separation of powers?

Either way the police have lost all credibility now.

Yes out walking my dog, waiting to cross on a zebra crossing the car that approached was a black BMW unmarked with two black shirted plain clothed goons inside. They drove onto the zebra crossing wound down the window and the fat one said. Don’t you know the rules about stay at home? I said, don’t you know the rules about fucking zebra crossings? We had a staring contest and he just drove off squeeling his tyres. Twat! I Don’t believe they understand the damage they are causing to their support.

You should have let your dog piss against their tyres.

I will finally learn this afternoon whether I get the chop or not. My attitude is one of resignation but also of anger. Anger at the government for having needlessly destroyed lives leading to joblessness; bankruptcies; a tsunami of untreated illnesses, mental health issues, domestic violence and substance abuse. Anger at our fellow citizens for aiding and abetting all the regulations that are destroying lives. Anger at charities, organisations, family and friends for their lack of empathy and tone deafness. Anger at the medical profession for having forgotten the central tenet of their profession – first do no harm.

I could go on and the rumours of more restrictions are certain to push me over the edge even more. But I have not complied and certainly won’t be complying with them.

I will keep on fighting.

Hear, hear. Hope it goes OK Bart.

Good luck.

Fingers crossed

Thanks everyone!!!!

I feel exactly the same. Self-employed and I want to sack myself for incapacity… I don’t know how to keep going. Remember you have love and support from your community here. We can’t let the bastards win. Stay strong no matter what happens…

Keep everything crossed for you Bart, hope its not the chop.

May all the Life that is firing in you, serve your deepening commitment to what is wholly worthy of love, energy and attention and release the futility of giving it to that which currently cannot recognise or receive or hear you.
Staying with what we feel but not indulging or succumbing to it as our convicted reality.

Good luck!

Hope it goes OK mate

Let’s hope your worst fears are not realised. I got laid off in the first Lockdown and was on UC (a nightmare) but I survived it before I got this job. Good luck to you and your colleagues. I will say this, things aren’t as bad as they seem to be when you actually have to confront your fear of losing your job. Like you say, keep fighting the good fight. We all will.

Peak UK deaths every year is the second week of Jan (this week).

New daily infections peaked on 7th Jan (Zoe app)

If there is any solace, we are at peak shit this week then it all gets better. People can stop panicking, all the numbers start going down.

But a prolonged cold snap may cause a blip.

They are basing the LDs on fake tests and fake data (moving flu etc into CV 19). No end to the arse quackery they can deploy with fake data.

And people have lost their common sense. A sniffle so instead of simply staying at home, resting and taking plenty of fluids & nourishing meals plus paracetamol if needed; they hotfoot it straight to the A&E where they get a test and surprise, surprise!

Memo to people: STOP GETTING TESTED!

I’ve kind of just stopped talking about things now. There is too much noise from PCR, overrunning the hospitals and depleting their resources, that I just don’t see any strength in people to discuss it. As soon as you seek to ask a clarifying question (“How many people are being treated for Covid-19?”), its red flag to a bull.

The desire for the vaccine now is also cemented. No rational dis cussion allowed. They think its the only ticket out of this.

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/

“Where are the bodies?” is my goto now. All-Cause Mortality in line with previous years. Sweden and the Republic both in line even with different policies

I agree.I know a few people who have felt a bit under the weather and got tested.They then milk the sympathy on social media.Virtie signalling combined with hysteria.

Yep. I posted on here a couple of days ago that I’d got chatting to a stranger (I didn’t reveal my scepticism so that I didn’t influence her comments) and she divulged that her sister works at Warrington General Hospital and had confirmed in frustration that they were indeed busy, but it was because they were “inundated with people who a year ago would have stayed home and taken a paracetamol to self-medicate. Now they all think they are dying and we have to be seen to take them seriously”. So, confirming what you say!

All should get the Fuck of Facebook and Twitter let the tech bastards know how you feel about the loss of free speech,if you need to use social media go over to Gab or Parler,Fuckerburg and that Dorsey cunt need teaching a lesson.

Can’t get into Gab right now so perhaps this is now happening (in greater numbers than they perhaps expected).

I tried to sign up to Gab yesterday but it was so slow that I gave up. I’ll give it another go later.

I managed to sign up but it was really slow and kept crashing. Can’t even get in right now. Good news is Simon Dolan and James Delingpole also signed up.

Mrs TJN tried yesterday, and finally got on this morning. Had message saying they’ve had 600k people trying to get on his weekend, and they’re slapping server after server in to keep up with demand.

Fuck Twitter and Arsebook (not that I’m on there anyway).

Gab is working but it’s very slow so you may have to be patient.

Is it not on Apple store?

Yes very big demand ten new servers coming on stream so you should be able to join soon.

Ta.

I just tried to log into Parler and the site is down. I read somewhere the platform has to be rebuilt and could take 7 days or so.
I am considering ditching my mobile phone and have been for a while. I only use it for its traditional use, and it is a bit of a dinosaur but I have no intention of spending thousands of dollars upgrading. I remember a time when we managed quite well without having these attached to our hands. I avoid taking it out with me wherever possible. I would like to think a coordinated ‘blackout’ on at least mobile phones could get the message across to these technocrats but I fear an attachment to these devices, by a large section of the population is almost an illness in itself. People can’t walk down the street without hanging on to them for goodness sake.

Great comment,as you say people appear to be totally addicted to there mobile phones particularly teenagers..yes Parler is rebuilding it’s server’s to become independent.

Be patient with GAB -they are under attack from all sides
Under the groups function there is one called “lockdown Sceptics” ready to go

It’s too late for Parler , it seems.

Thanks LS! What a rollercoaster! Mid major meltdown after reading article one this morning… article two takes hold and a sense of calm descended over me. I privately declared, in April, that I suspected this was an ingenious act of war by the CCP. To see every thought I’ve had, every argument I’ve tried to make to brainwashed friends clearly laid out like that… gave me the chink of hope I need to get through today. The problem now becomes whether people simply say, “We don’t care, we want the communism.” People forget there were plenty in East Germans who loved it, who miss it, who would welcome it. I think back, now, to a podcast I heard earlier this year. Yuval Noah Harari interviewed by Sam Harris, in which he speculated that communism only failed because the technology did not exist to support an efficient centrally planned economy, but that now it does. I listened, then, and was fascinated by such a hypothetical concept. I missed the very obvious WARNING. This is a war. We have been forced into it. Choose your side.

People don’t actually understand what freedom is, what underpins it and how fundamental it is to the human condition.

How many people do you know would have a philosophy book at home, of any kind?

How many people do you know would be able to tell you who Thomas Paine is? JS Mill? The Enlightenment?

How many do you know would say “I’m not into politics”?

We are there for the taking unfortunately, for now.

I heard of Thomas Paine for the first time this year. Trying to spread the word!

Come to Lewes, we can have a few pints in The Rights of Man’. Ooh, hang on …

JohnB, I am doing research on Thomas Paine. I sent you a DM through the “forum”.

Hi CNC. Which section of the forum please ?

Never mind, found it. (Not used forum before. ).

Find a relational respect established a communication channel.
people have been deliberately mis-educated and corporately managed in ways they may at some level intuit but cannot articulate or begin to free themselves from. Nor can this be done for them in sympathy or good intentions.
The key is a real relationship.
The use of relationships to get from – for a personal sense of vindication or profit – will always lose relational communication for some masking code or narratives that work to hide and evade the hated or feared.
Freedom from fear is not real if it merely casts our ‘sins’ or conflicts onto others to distance, deny and attack them there. Yet this has great attraction and appeal for those who are not ready to own and feel what they feel – and so must cast it way as if to get rid of it. Emotions are results from beliefs that the mind may not have any awareness of, and thus runs upon as ‘realities’ that are dissociated from relational freedom – which is being yourself – and being truly with what is here – or in the presence of Life.

Freedom at the body level, is where we lose identity to a mind locked down and distanced as ‘body’ – which you may notice can be transparent to joy in life or locked in pain and futility – not least according to the set of our mind.
Freedom is deeper than social agreements and definitions given power.
You do not die alone but that fear of separation kills you.
A key of covid to notice is that the fear of a thing can act as the belief in a thing and all power that You Are – be given it and suffered accordingly.
Freedom to choose fear is the freedom to choose not to use it as a basis from which to act or live, and this freedom cannot be thrust upon us. We have to truly want it. Death may seem to offer salvation from great fear, but at some level we are running away from ourselves, and will do so in one realm or another until we are released of a fundamental misidentification. No one else can let love’s honesty into your life.

Thomas Paine is? Or was.

I’ve had to stop listening to Sam Harris and sponsoring. Not challenging his pro-lockdown guests at all.

The meetings of the cabinet on this now appear to consist of anecdotes. “I saw a woman on a park bench. Sitting with someone clearly not in her bubble and no social distancing whatsoever. We should deploy the military.”

Its like handing the greatest power to the nations most ardent curtain twitchers

Dear The Police,

I liked your first album but I feel our relationship has now gone sour.

By enforcing these anti-human, insane, anti-scientific “laws”, you are:

• Slowly killing your friends
• Slowly killing your family
• Destroying their businesses
• Destroying the economy (which in turn will destroy the NHS)
• Ruining your children’s future
• Making life not worth living for everyone including yourselves

I hope you are proud of yourselves and feel very brave and virtuous for “just doing your job”.

You should have stuck to just recording reggae/pop fusion songs.

If we are still alive in a few years time, please remember that you will never be forgiven for this.

Yours with total contempt,

Captain

The HART Team, a promising development:

https://twitter.com/MaximusBasileus/status/1348557039740596224

HART is a group of highly qualified UK doctors, scientists, economists and psychologists who use a strong and broad multidisciplinary evidence base to challenge the Government’s policies on tackling COVID-19.
We aim to provide politicians and the wider public with a credible second opinion .
We represent a broad range of disciplines with a wide range of individual evidence-based expert views.

They won’t listen, just as they haven’t listened for the last 10 months. Mass non-compliance is the only way, but I fully expect the sheeple to sauntering around (once a week) in masks outside after today.

Just a reminder that I predicted a week ago that weekly deaths will have peaked by 16th January. So I forecast that weekly deaths will start to decline from either this week or next as that is what has happened in nine of the last ten years. So that won’t be known for a couple of weeks and then they’ll need to show a consistent drop for a couple of weeks more before any thought of loosening restrictions. That means full lockdown until March at the earliest.

15.000 dead 2018 2nd week in Jan from the normal flu.

We won’t be anywhere close to that level, 2nd week Jan 2021.

So why a LD??
500 dead yesterday from the flu? Average or below average for many years.

Any new NHS dance vids in empty hospitals? Always enjoy watching fat twerking nurses.

Notice they now only publish covid deaths and have stopped the total deaths. People think this is bad but have no idea that January is called death month because its normally the worse month for deaths. They claim covid is the number one killer, no I doubt it. So even the ons has been subscripted into telling lies.

No it means lockdown as the new normal, but once incorporated into technocratic and biotech systems of compliance, you will get all the freedoms the Chinese have – that is – as the State grants for compliance.

That only works if Europe and America follow the same path. The restrictions would not be countenanced if France or Germany at the same time drop them and return to normal. The problem is they are all doing the same thing and are showing no propensity to change.

Because it is a worldwide coup

March is optimistic. I am saying May before the message changes. But Zero Covid is now the goal. This is permanent in out shake it all about

It is optimistic but I’m talking about full lockdown. I agree that other measures will be on and off ad infinitum. The main problem is Easter.as they won’t want to loosen restrictions and then have crowds of people enjoying Easter plastered all over the tabloids so even if loosened in March then most in Tier 4 from then.

Dunno handjob said in an interview that zero covid cannot be an option. Has the SAGE way shifted?

They have already legislated for lockdown until 31st March

The previous Tier regulations made mention of the Paris Olympics… in 2024.

Can someone kindly tell me what has happened to Carl Heneghan? His data is still showing deaths only up to 6th December and we need him to repeat what he told the parliamentary committee: “When things are common sense, they still have an equal chance of harming or benefiting you and the quality evidence on cloth masks says they increase re-infection.” Carl Heneghan, Professor of Evidence-based Medicine, Oxford University.

The benefits to the maintaining of the ‘dance’ following the ‘hammer’ are deemed far more important than whether people degrade their brain function, and mental and physical health. (Referring to information in https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger )

He’s probably been taken to a quarantine facility after testing positive for covid-19, and needs to be socially distanced from the community.
unfortunately if his situation deteriorates we may not hear from him again.

He has disappeared unfortunately, I wonder is it because of their vaccine? Don’t rock de boat Carl?

Suggested letter to MPs (apart from the 16)

Dear X, Do you support the Chinese Communist Party?

If not, please explain why have you voted for its policies. (Or — for the abstainers — why you have failed to oppose its policies.)

And refer them to letter quoted above.

If the arrest of the woman on the park bench turns out to be a stunt by anti lockdown protestors I’d just like to say to them: thanks for nothing. Like we aren’t already trying to push a boulder up a mountain. When respected scientists are accused of disinformation in the MSM can we not shoot ourselves in the foot?

Frankly there is more then enough police brutality and overreach going on in the real world without the need to fake it.

There is no limit to the capacity of deceit to operate in the minds of those who succumb.
IE: The belief one has to use ’emotive leverage’ in order to ‘impact’ a narrative control.
Or the setting up of double false flags.

So what we give attention to is a bit like feeding fire when it is not recognised in the heart or verified as corroborated information. The WISH or FEAR that something be true or conversely denied truth operates the mind of deceit. Once we invest by our reactions we become a part of the confusions set in denial of a true account.

What is meant by ‘fake it’? If they were fake police I 100% agree with you. If the protesters were simply intentionally pushing the envelope while remaining within it then the police treatment was well over the top and quite possibly illegal. Dorset Police procedures involving the use of handcuffs are very clear and this was a breach.

Wouldn’t agent provocateurs pull such a stunt. Wouldn’t take to many committee meetings to dream up such a ploy to discredit the idea of lockdown sceptics. I have witnessed freaks being at protests with weird placards. When I say Freaks I mean extremely oddly made- up faces and clothes, alone with Q slogan. They then walk to a point in the crowd across from press photographers and bob is your uncle front page of the local rag.

It not just democrats that play the provocateur game, mi5 type folk are just marvels at it too.

Surely the only ‘fake’ (more like omission) was not saying it came about because of a protest ?

The (real and genuine) police “reaction” was to being effectively “Audited” by some perfectly normal anti-lockdown protesters, who demonstrated their right, as free-born citizens, to challenge the stupidity of a “rule” preventing them sitting on a seaside bench and drinking coffee. They posed no risk whatsoever to other members of the public.

Dorset police have “previous” for such stupid (and illegal) activity when they moved an elderly man from a bench in the first “lockdown”.

Sadly no-one in that organisation has the intelligence to realise that treating the rights of the public to act entirely lawfully with contempt is a public relations disaster.

Unless people stand up for those rights, quite legally even if deliberately, to test the police, then I respectfully suggest it won’t be long before we can’t even discuss such things.

Your choice.

Btw – back in the Summer when we were, allegedly, free, there was a beach hut fire from a stove which took hold, and with a brisk onshore wind spread to vegetation on the cliff face and moved rapidly to the top and a road with cars. Fortunately because of the swift response of Fire and Rescue it got no further.

During this, Dorset police rightly got people to move back along the promenade for safety.
Unfortunately some fool also thought it wise to put PCSOs and officers onto the beach right down to the waters edge – the tide was quite far out – to stop people leaving the beach by moving along to a safer place to do so – they are utter cretins frankly. This is an accurate account, as I was there at the time.

I found last night
https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger
and am pleased to see these findings as a main article toady.
Acts of war are more understandable than acts of mindless self-destruction.
There may be a context for the understanding of China.

The evidence for China actively pushing the mind-control agenda is to my mind far too strong to be dismissed as Sinophobic or diversionary tactic.
However, willingness to go along with it is in effect the betraying of our own culture and traditions – such as we still have them – for a top down technocracy of ‘incentivised’ compliance.

The preparation of the mind for such a takeover has been long prepared and would not seem at all to fit to a Chinese ‘plan’ but is well documented as the rise of the global monopolist and transhuman social engineering of a corporate technologism – always reined in and directed by financial control that effective captured its own regulators long ago, as the ability to fund and defund what ideas and endeavour grows and what does not.

The use of fear as control via narrative seems to be a sophisticated technological development masking over more overt barbarism such as drawing and quartering and heads on spikes – but has the liability of total psychotic dissociation as an insanity that effectively possesses or paralyses the mind.
The contemplation of evils done in the name of caring is deeply disturbing and the minds of many recoil rather than even allow the question to be asked.

I have little doubt that beneath appearances are deep and pervasive breakdown of Economy and indeed of capacity for integrative communication. To my mind a ‘control Economy’ or indeed Control agenda – period – is the nature of the driver of chaos in the system at all levels – including and especially the resort to using fear as the means to organise and control human thought and behaviour. Fear is hateful – and hate generates more fear. The undoing of fear calls on spiritual resources that a ‘control agenda’ must deny and suppress to be able to persist under a mask of ‘virtue’.

Part of the spiritual willingness is of looking on horror without recoil, as the willingness to free our mind of the spell that frames in evasion, while ruling from the shadows as ‘ unknown or denied fears’ that our minds are then predicated to ‘keep us safe from’ – by means that cannot more than redistribute and bubble off from elements of our experience that are then masked out and distanced from as if to have ‘escaped’ by narrative identity.

The cost to freedom is a loss of honesty and entrapment in a socially defined ‘identity’ made in and of fear.

Wankcock to address the nation tonight.
“OH, BE STILL, MY BEATING HEART”.
With apologies to the romantic poets.

inspired by Northumberland Nomad post earlier

feeling pretty down today – I grew up in a dictatorship and Britain has given me a home – the democracy and freedom that Britain used to stand for is now a distant memory and I fear that it may never fully return

Excellent – will share. I really think this is the way to go using emotive images to counter the government’s psyops.

Police and NHS having a dance off

Die at home. Save the NHS. Or maybe just get the military to kill a bunch of people.

Excellent!!!

Looks like the Antichrist has shown himself today, and indeed he wears a familiar retched face. If there’s any truth to the rumours, we’re utterly done for.

Tony Blair is said to be now ‘advising’ Madcock on the vaccination programme. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9131161/The-return-Tony-Blair-Ex-Labour-leader-prime-minister-advising-Matt-Hancock-vaccines.html

I’m going to say it openly right here – I’m terrified of the vaccination programme. My fear now seems well placed with this evil individual involved.

Globalists are unhappy with the standard of hancocks ‘effort’. His fake tears, fake effort and smug dupers delight have been spotted by overlords as ineffective.

He has no friends now, what a lonely wretch he has made himself.

Indeed, the reasoning in the DM article is that Madcock is underperforming and they want to speed up the vaccine programme. Guaranteed, the next ‘u-turn’ we’ll see is the vaccine becoming compulsory.

There will be massive legal cases if it becomes compulsory and people will win them. I thought the Vaccination Tsar so to speak was responsible for the roll out. I understand there are currently serious logistical problems around distribution which it is expected the Army will help to improve. Let’s see.

What the fuck has it got to do with bliar….oh yeah, he is a globalist puppet

He’s the most affective puppet we’ve seen in the public domain.

I’ve just read from a reliable source that Farage supports the return of Blair – if this is the case, it shows Farage was always fake opposition after all.

It’s all a puppet show, at least he will get his DNA database and roll out chrislam.

A dangerous man.

Indeed it’s true that Farage supports the return of Blair:

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/nigel-farage-calls-for-tony-blair-to-become-uks-vaccination-tsar/

It’s also simmering to the surface that Brexit is itself being used to further the Great Reset / Agenda 21/30.

Don’t be scared, be angry, very angry.
These scum aren’t injecting their trans humanist agenda into me.

What they hope to achieve by having Blair have a share in the fun is beyond my understanding. The internationalist cabal must still think he’s a pretty straight sort of guy

My anger is not reserved for those openly driving this tyranny, it is also for the fake opposition. Those high-profile personalities who have carried the anti-lockdown argument have spent 9 months ignoring that this is an agenda, instead trying to make us believe it is a mistake, it is a cock-up, it’s an exercise on saving-face.

All this has done is sent the anti-lockdown camp in a vicious circle, chasing our own tails. It has done utterly NOTHING to stop this global crime. That’s how fake opposition works and they’ve succeeded it would seem.

Yep Comrade Dictator Starmer isn’t interested in any opposition to this Government. He has said on several occasions that he is in discussions/meetings with Witless, Unbalanced and Pantsdown every day. Yet another moron who can’t think for himself or take advice from a broader range of professionals. He’s just as bad as Johnson et al.

More worringly he has said that this year he’s going to focus on the NHS and the Economy. This plank of wood with hair will have absolutely nothing to say about either that is of any use. He’ll just toe the establishment line.

If people still don’t see how Labour have long betrayed the working people in this country through Labour’s lack of opposition and Starmer wanting harder lockdowns then we’re doomed.

Tony Blair is the globalists messenger boy.How on earth is this discredited buffoon allowed to advise anyone

Who is this Tony Blair? If you mean the WAR CRIMINAL Tony Blair then please make it clear.

If they’re wheeling out (the war criminal !) Blair, they’re very desperate. Everybody knows what an utter scrote he is, everybody.

Must be a cottage industry for Blair to get involved

I hate to be negative.. cos it is magick.. it has power..

But I don’t believe the government will ever release us. And if they don’t.. I don’t believe people will revolt either.. we will just be like the North Koreans or East Germans.

Anyhoo.. new Delingpod with Ivor Cummins…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-yNlkUR5n0

I hope you are wrong. It seems to me that the silent majority are voting with their feet. People reported out and about in large numbers at the weekend. This is what’s scaring the government. They cannot police the numbers that look to be no longer truly convinced. We just need to hold our nerve.
They want to ramp up the fear to get us all vaccinated but it’s unravelling. That’s my fervent hope.

That’s it in a nutshell. It’s glaringly obvious. They must think we’re all too stupid to realise it. (Most of the sheep are of course).

I hope that’s right. It’s been deliberately timed for the winter, while people are less likely to want to get out and about and many will stay at home, worrying and becoming fearful, and ready to do anything to be free. People are more optimistic in the spring and summer and it’d more difficult to herd and corral them.
When people speak of smelling a rat – that’s what it is. A Race Against Time.

It is unravelling that’s why the massive scale propaganda keeps being ramped up every day and the lies about deaths getting even greater. They’ve got this magic date of 5th April 2021 to lift all the restrictions I believe. I wonder what it is about that date and what they hope to achieve before reaching it. Because really, they are not achieving anything they seem to be running around like headless chickens and haven’t got a clue what they are doing. Likewise, they have backed themselves into a corner by all the lies they have told and they don’t know how to get out of it. What we know for sure is that there is no planning going on here because no thought is put into any decisions or actions it’s all ‘on the back of a fag packet’ off the hoof decision making, they haven’t even drawn up an exit strategy for God’s sake.

Don’t forget the economic angle.

If our standard of living dropped to the level of East Germany or North Korea, how would people react?

Goods don’t just magically appear on shelves – they have to be produced and paid for.

I hate to say this but it has dropped dramatically following ten years of Tory Governments.

Not the slightest reason to believe the available supposed alternative would have made any positive difference to that, of course (arguably the contrary). But we would certainly still be part of the developing European superstate, and we would certainly be much less free, and much more bound by pc dogmas and ideology.

Which is not to say the “Conservative” governments have been good. Imo the political alternatives available to us have been either bad, or worse

Queuing for a coffee yesterday it’s clear that customer service, or any sense that we are customers, has gone completely. Shopping is now a grim experience. Perhaps like waiting for a state ration parcel.

Bad shit coming. This only goes one way.

You still need to imagine the opposite in your mind.. sounds like ju ju.. but isn’t.

This is not about health. How many have died in the LD’s?? Estimates vary between 25.000 and 45.000. How many have really died from CV 19? Maybe 20-25.000 given that the avg age of death is 81 with 2 underlying conditions and all the data fraud they commit.

LD Dead: 45.000 / 9 months or 270 days = 166 / day
CV Dead: 25.000 / 9 months or 270 days = 93 /d
CV Data fraud dead: 80000/270 = 297 / d

Anyway you look at it, the LD’s are murdering people + destroying civil/economic society and this is just as great a health menace as CV.

Why aren’t these retards looking at LD dead if this is about health and safety???

They’re not, because it isn’t.

These deranged sociopaths won’t stop until we’re individually locked up in a cupboard or closet! In an astonishing display of arrogance and stupidity, it does not occur to these maniacs to *question the efficacy of lockdown*! They simply *assume* its efficacy, even in the teeth of evidence of its disastrous, monstrous effects, and thus continue to enforce it/beg the question while at the same time continuing to brutalise the public. There is no question that these people belong in jail. Utter scum.

You seem to suggest that they don’t know what they’re doing – that this is a result of incompetence, or a blind indifference. I only wish I thought so too.
It’s having to accept that our ‘leaders’ don’t have our well being at heart that is utterly demoralising and, frankly, frightening.

I said about a week ago, that they will double down by the day now, and they are doing. It’s accelerating at a frightening rate, they simply must get their own way, at whatever cost.

You were spot on, and this will accelerate and intensify for the next few months. There are plenty more weapons for the state to unleash. Even fervent lockdown/mask/vaccine zealots are going to start feeling some pain soon.

I’m saying they are sociopaths. They are deranged, arrogant and stupid. These are perfectly compatible.

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.”
George Orwell, 1984

I don’t know about anyone else, but increasingly over the last year, I’ve felt nothing but this boot stamping on my face. Every time I think to myself that they couldn’t possibly take anything else from us, they dream up more ways to torture the population.

The future is looking very bleak. I used to have things to look forward to; I was lucky enough to get married one week before the lockdown on March 23rd without all the stupid restrictions. Turns out, that was the last time I experienced any semblance of a normal life. Our honeymoon was cancelled, and there’s no indication on when we can actually do something meaningful for it.

We want to plan for starting a family but I genuinely feel like I don’t want to bring a child into this madness. I know I’m one of the lucky ones with a job and a roof over my head. I try to stay positive and focus on other things, but this regime want to take everything that makes life meaningful away from us – permanently. I started out last year with so much hope for the future – I was getting ready to get married, full of plans for our future. That has all been taken away from us, with no sign of getting it back. Now we can’t leave the house without it being “essential”.

I never thought I’d ever become this depressed after previously being quite an optimistic person.

Imagine this government – together with any so called opposition – locking you down… forever.

Always thought the more vital book was Brave New World, in depicting a totalitarian state where the people don’t need threats because they don’t even realise it is happening. An Orwellian state has a visible enemy. However, we now seem to have an amalgam of the two. Dire threats and police overreach, applauded by a majority who don’t see the big deal.

I agree. On balance, I think I would be either a prole or in the ‘savages’ world. Definitely wouldn’t want to tow the Party line in a cushy job!

“ this regime want to take everything that makes life meaningful away from us – permanently ”

At least you can see through the lies. For your marriage’s sake I hope your spouse is on the same page. There will be many in similar circumstances to you who genuinely believe that everything will get back to normal this year. Their pain and suffering will be many times greater when this does not happen.

I saw through the lies from the very beginning. My husband is not a full on sceptic like I am but he is beginning to see the writing on the wall at least. He’s never been an advocate of putting our lives on hold for the sake of a virus, so it’s never been the cause of too much tension between us.

I wonder how those people who believe that this will all be over after a vaccine will react when they continue the restrictions? Because they will. Evil regimes are not known to give freedoms back willingly.

If you do start a family, Elenesse, make it clear to your kids that government has no place telling them when they can or cannot leave the house.

Mr Bart and I made a decision early on that we couldn’t afford to have any children and at the way things are going, we are thankful that we don’t have any little Barts around. I would have seen myself as violating the Geneva Convention.

If you and your husband are wanting to start family, greater responsibilities will fall on our shoulders to ensure that any future children you will have can think and stand up for themselves and not succumb to pressure.

If, tonight, Wancock says there is a new virus, that comes from the moon, and is spread by diesel cars, the pleblic will lap it up. When he says you must give up your diesel car and have your first-born gassed ‘to save our NHS’, they will queue up…

Let them. It’s us I’m concerned about.

Pay tribute to Morloch.

Some friends of mine and I used to drink in a pub where there was a group of men who used to rob banks. Or possibly still did, they were a little vague about that. We didn’t drink together much, but we got on quite well. So not exactly model citizens.

But if they were running the country, I cannot imagine for a moment that they would have prevented people from holding the hand of their dying father or mother, or forced children to wear masks at school, or closed anyone’s business down, or had people arrested for sitting on a bench in a park or going for a walk in the countryside.

The people we have now are worse than criminals.

I have known thieves and drug dealers who love animals… do you think Boris really loves his dog or kids? Maybe he does.. maybe he doesn’t.

A few weeks ago one of the Three Stooges (I think it was Whitty) said that society would have to decide what level of risk it was prepared to accept from the virus.
What we are seeing now with people bending the rules and stretching guidance to its elastic limit is society working out that level of risk. Just not in the way he intended. He meant it should be a big-state, technocratic government decision, but the demos is deciding for itself, working it out little by little. There will be ups and downs, progress and reversals but, as I’ve said a number of times before on here, people’s humanity will prevail.

It’s the government’s worst nightmare because the house is now burning and their whole policy to date has basically been to shout “Fire!” and hope for the best, instead of ensuring Matilda’s house was fire-proofed for winter.

Fuck the government. They are in open rebellion against the people and must be put down like the rabid dogs they are.

I just came straight to the comments after I saw the headline. I felt I needed to reassure myself that I’m not alone before I have to face knowing what punishment is in store for us now.

You’re not alone.

Says it all really.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/lockdown-zealots-its-you-who-are-the-selfish-ones/

Where this is going is terrifying and seems unstoppable- are the government complicit in the imminent destruction of this country or are they being threatened to do what they’re doing? Why doesn’t any politician speak out against this (anonymously here for example) and tell us where all of this is going because I fear for our future and we have to resist!

They’ve declared war on us (the people). Why on Earth would they tell us anything that would/might help us ?

You’ve heard the politicians speak on talkRadio and elsewhere. Most are thick as shit. The HoP has been bypassed by a filthy man who never should have been made PM… and the old guard have all been sidelined and relegated to the backbenches.. the front bench dream team are all on the Davos choo choo…

Allegedly this was leaked by an insider from the Canadian government:
https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/

Of course, it’s impossible to verify… but if Sunak starts talking about UBI in the Spring then I’ll start to really worry.

TBF I think Johnson, Gove and Wancock are in the grip of three, quite frankly, deranged Scientists. Whilst the rest of the world including Europe are getting back to normal we are the only country in the world that has this alleged mutant variant running rampant, nobody else has. We are the only country in the world that is pumping out industrial levels of propaganda, fake news and lies to create a perpetual state of fear. I have relatives who live in Austria and they don’t have these industrial levels of fear mongering. In fact, it isn’t even the main topic in the news.

With a disastrous Brexit deal that is going to h ave a major impact on this country which will see sharp rises in food prices, fuel etc which people can ill afford, a forecast of 8m people on UC by mid to late Summer and a Government that doesn’t seem to give a damn about the economy at all or that even has a Cost Benefit Analysis or an exit plan out of this, we are f****d truly because of a grossly incompetent Prime Minister and his cabal and three deranged scientists.

If they were sensible, they would remove restrictions such as masks and social distancing and ask the public to act responsibly. I think a lot of the public would still wear masks but at least people would be invited to take responsibility for their own ‘safety’. They are in full Dictatorship mode now only they haven’t thought that through either because they don’t think about anything and have zero analytical skills and don’t care.

Can somebody tell me what the news is please.I cannot bear putting the Mainstream media on?

Millwall are going to win the cup

Jesus has returned to the earth.

TBF more chance of seeing that than Millwall winning the cup but then again the way this charade is playing oit I fully expect an alien invasion (which will be a cgi mind fuck for the plebs)

Has anyone seen the project blue beam from Seattle nye

https://youtu.be/q3ozXnI8mDw

I fancy Chorley myself……they have the best celebrations…no social distancing…lots of spitting and singing………….

From your mouth to Gods ears. We are playing like shit so very much doubt it but we can only hope. NOLU!

At least Leeds lost

Boris has declared himself King. And he will be taking more wives. Princess Nut Nut is going to ban plastic. Babies are to be vaccinated against covid.

Nothing has changed. The vast majority of the public continue to lap up any and all destructive shit that the government throw at them. Then they beg for more.

I sense there is a shift in public opinion?…the battle is moving our way I feel……

I feel that too. I don’t go by any of these polls because it’s not what I’m hearing out here, quite the opposite actually.

That’s fine – you never get the news from the mainstream media anyway. Only propaganda,

The people and the dictatorship are heading for a showdown

What next? Internment?

That worked really well last time they used it

Well.. they got away with starving the old of company.. and they put masks on kids at school.. and then they stopped school.. and exams.. and pubs.. and jobs..

Putting my Cabinet Minister’s hat on in the brain storming session:

“PM, we need to introduce rationing in the Supermarkets. Each individual in a household is only entitled to buy one pre packed box of essential items. The ration card to be produced, on each visit and track and traced on the Ration App.”

A logical extension will be only those who have been vaccinated will receive their ration box, with the slogan

NO VAX NO FOOD

You are a visionary. This is coming.

And paying for your rations will be cashless. So if you buy something the government don’t like you buying say 2 bottles of wine one will be normal price the other will have an additional surcharge. By going cashless they can tax you at source.

There will be no access to funds if you hold the wrong opinions.

Start of another depressing week. Latest news….abandoning May elections. You couldn’t make this up. I thought we lived in a free country? Obviously not.
If 12 odd million vaccinated in a little more than a month, how on earth can they justify holding us as prisoners for month after month after month. Now saying about wearing a mask if outside, so suck up the fresh air through a rag ! Only going out once a week – well the dog will love that ! How on earth did we end up with these complete t**ts running the country? We saw how useless the politicians were for years while putting their own views ahead of their constituent’s during Brexit, now we have these morons ruling like some kind of despot state with zero controls. So much for the Conservative committee that were going to take back control from the buffoon and have done nothing, utterly useless. They have done nothing. The leader of the opposition just wants more rules, more lockdown. Lets make it harder and worse so I can look like the Big Man and I am harder than the idiot running the country.
Utterly useless. Mind you, we may as well cancel the elections as who the hell would you vote for? Conservatives (who I always vote for, but swear I never will again) pathetic and out of control, Labour would be even worse and want more rules and lockdown, Liberal…heard nothing from them, but likely as bad. Reform UK? Could be the only option.
Cannot really put into words how much I hate our Government, like I say, life long Tory voter, but hate them. Useless.
If someone pointed out to them that 1650 people a day die in England and Wales, every day, every week, every year, maybe they would see sense? Every major cause of death is down every month, as a percentage stuck as Covid. Just madness. In the past 8 weeks, official ONS stats, only 2600 people have died more than the first 8 weeks of 2020. 2600 !!! Just over 300 a week from 60 million. Madness.
A power trip from idiots. Save the NHS, clap clap clap. Where is the plan to increase capacity by 40% over the next 5 years? Where is the plan to build far more care homes and sheltered housing to help an aging population? Just spend billions so people can sit at home watching Netflix before they lose their job in a few months time.
Rant over. Have a good day !!!

Every major cause of death is down every month, as a percentage stuck as Covid

Do you have a source for this claim? I was looking at the Scottish data just there, and only death by respiratory illness is down (~1100 people this year); the rest – cancer, dementia, heart attacks etc.- are at normal levels.

Yep official ONS stats, latest release is November, new ones 18th January. Versus the 5 year average in November, top 10 causes of death, Covid top now…dementia down, heart disease down, flu halved. This is the link if it works;
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/november2020#leading-causes-of-death

Ah, the monthly data? Thanks. I was looking at the weekly and couldn’t see it. I did notice that on the weekly data they have a bar graph showing deaths involving Covid and another for respiratory illnesses. The bars were coloured differently to signify whether the respective illness was contributory to death or the cause of death. Of course, the Covid deaths were all caused by Covid while the respiratory illnesses were mostly contributory. More sleight of hand.

yes only a monthly one for that data. Weekly you are right, die of covid and its covid, die from flu and you die of something else.

Remember – the ONS is only reporting what it gets from the NHS and PHE.

… and clearly what we are seeing is the distortion in mortality causation that John Lee first wrote about in the Spectator back in April.

Anyone but a gormless idiot would know that the proportions as presented are total garbage.

millions of them about unfortunately and would seem to be a qualification to be part of the government

Excellent rant though!

We are having a huge second wave

We have the usual NHS seasonal incompetence, but added to that is the incompetence of Whitty, Mandy and the Pig Dictator

This has led to huge second wave of incompetence

50% increase in mortality overnight around here.
Went up from 2 to 3 in an NHS Region of 1.8m souls.

Stay in. Stay Safe

Its your own fault, didn’t that nice Mr Hancock tell you to stay home and starve to death instead (mentally or physically whichever comes first).

Only the second wave of incompetence?
Surely it is more than that.

the letter and supporting documents sent to the FBI, MI5 et al started me thinking and I am definitely coming round to the notion that the CCP are behind all this (not the Chinese people themselves who haven’t got a scooby what’s being done to them let alone us). In fact I suspect we have been unknowingly at war with the CCP for years. It’s not a war that will be fought with guns or soldiers but technologically, politically and economically. Actually, there may be a situation when boots on the ground are used, that’s when the CCP invade Russa and India – the only two nations in the world with the manpower to threaten them.

I knew it would come to something like this when Nixon the crook started opening up China in cahoots with war criminal Kissenger and said so some years ago comparing it to the mistake of US Commander Perry in Japan in the 1850s.

Proconsul Harris kowtowing to Emperor Xi worries me more.

The UK with all the draconian measures/lockdowns has become extremely weak/poor and will not be able to ‘fight back’ well

Just listening to Talkradio. The usual Government ad came on BUT I’m sure it said “If you have to go out, cover your face”. Nothing about being in a supermarket or on a bus. Yikes.

“ If you have to go out, cover your disgusting face in shame you fucking slave. You are scum. You are vermin. We hate you. And soon we will kill you. “

You forgot to add: Now clap like a fucking seal for the NHS! CLAP I SAID !!! Build, Back, Better!

But they are doing it for our own good.

They have been normalising that for a couple of weeks now.

Alex Belfield gives a reasonable opinion of the daily mail fear mongering story re harder lockdown measures.

https://youtu.be/b18H8DNdyHc
3 minute video.

Alex is great, I go to his YouTube most days.
I don’t agree with all his views but, hey, it’s a free country.

From Sir Stephen Holgate in the Independent, mainly discussing the government’s fixation on vaccines as opposed to treatments

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/vaccine-covid-treatments-coronavirus-b1783955.html

It’s really important to the PTB that we all get the jab. This is what the last 9 months of carefully choreographed panic has been leading up to.

Why? For the ‘flu which has an equivalent mortality rate I get a polite letter inviting me to attend for the jab, that’s all.

Expect growing threats of increased restrictions if take-up is poor and we don’t rush desperately to get the jab.

Because of this I wouldn’t touch it with a bargepole.

Glad to see others realising this.

The vaccine is the gateway to the technocratic slave state from which there will be no escape.

I normally get a simgle reminder text about the annual flu jab which I ignore. This year I have been bombarded with 14 such texts over two months

Interesting – I’m 59 and haven’t ever had a single one!

I’ve had three since making it quite clear to the nurse who did my last blood test, that I had no intention of ever having a flu jab, when she noted I hadn’t had one yet.

People shouldn’t need to be coerced into doing something supposedly for their own good.

I live in 55+ housing and here 20 Tenants have now had the jab (all over 75yrs but most fit, mobile and full faculties). Well, there are now 3 in hospital (2 days after taking the jab) 4 at home in bed feeling unwell, sick and nauseous and 5 with symptoms of Covid which they never had before! Some jab.

Thanks for feedback

I’m glad that Dr Joffe is a sceptic now but the Diamond Princess proved that not everyone would get it, that there was preexisting immunity, and the age range. The IFR was estimated to be about .3 in March.

I’m not sure the DP proved anything much. The ‘experiment’ only ran for 10 days which was not enough time for everyone to be sufficiently exposed. For most of that time only a handful of passengers would have been infected.

The ‘man from Shenzhen’ boarded on 20 January, all crew and passengers were gone by 1 March.

The data inferred from the Diamond Princess is about what has been proven and said now.

Friend’s mother had a message to arrange vaccine. Friend’s mother is house bound. There is no plan at present to vaccinate at homes.
Scotland.

Whitty, 8.55 am today, BBC:

Asked about wearing masks when we leave the house, Prof Whitty says that he would encourage people to wear a mask “and wear it properly over the nose and mouth” when indoors but says that the risk outdoors is only in a crowded space.
“ In an open street environment it probably makes little difference, ” he says.

Let’s see how that plays out…

I think they’ll mandate it outdoors in stages. Today will be anywhere that is crowded, then in a couple of weeks everywhere.

Salami tactics.

Sounds about right – or, that will be the plan that is announced, but then it will accelerate after a few days. Seems to be the current way of doing.

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a mask on a human face—forever.”
George Unwell, 1984

I give it until Spring before this becomes reality.

I thinking orwell knew a bit about the future, but how did he know in 1948 that I would be sat here thinking of hancocks face being stamped on forever?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/we-should-welcome-stricter-lockdown-policing-rm87b225h our new communist champion WTF!

Didn’t have the guts to join though did she?

Today’s team meeting:

Team lead: How’s everyone doing? Are you all coping OK with the restrictions
Team member 1: Yes, it’s hard but I’m staying sane I suppose
Team member 2: Me too
Me: I’m doing absolutely terrible. It’s only a matter of time before the economy collapses and that’s when the shit is really going to hit the fan. Food shortages, riots, mass civil unrest.

Didn’t go down too well…

Does anyone need a software developer?

Neil Ferguson needs one.

Won’t be a long enough contract…

10 IF TRUE THEN LOCKDOWN
20 GOTO 10

lol

I think he adapted existing code thus:

Dim FergusonIsATwat As Boolean = True

Do

# Call KillAllCattle

Call DoLockdown

Loop While FergusonIsATwat = True

Note: Syntax might be slightly dodgy….

Well said. They asked, you answered. Stupid fuckers were probably lying for public consumption when they said they were staying sane.

Indeed. People can’t handle the truth. I say it as it is at work and it doesn’t go down well.

Wrongthink delivered well.

No, but are you any good at plumbing?

Not in the real world, but I have used an accurate computer simulation that models all known plumbing activities…
.

“ Does anyone need a software developer?”

Yes I’d like to know that too – with a background in Electronic Manufacturing as an engineer.

Happy to help out and get hands-on with any other functions when needed.

Not keen on endless and pointless “Management Speak” meetings, and will stick any diversity training requirement notifications etc where the sun doesn’t shine into anyone requiring me to take them.

After the food shortages, riots, mass civil unrest, etc, obviously…..

As the Pfizer vaccine is not recommended for pregnant women I assume that you should also avoid if you’re trying for a baby. Therefore I think you could probably exempt yourself for at least 25 years. Not sure if the same conditions apply for other vaccines though.

They have now come out saying that the Pfizer or Oxford one is safe to have during pregnancy and breastfeeding. However no studies have been done and I’m pretty sure no pregnant woman will make themselves a test subject for it.

I’m currently pregnant and won’t take it now or after when I plan to breastfeed. They can stick where the sun doesn’t shine

Who are “they”?

Apparently men can get pregnant too according to the book of woke so that’s 100% of the population that can refuse the vaxx

I assume age is no impediment either.

ONS website WEEK 52…… 2912 deaths ‘mentioned Covid’ on the death certificate?

Apparantly death statistics should be treated with ‘caution’?

How come the BBC are telling us over 1000 people a DAY are dying directly from this PLAGUE?

I’ve been wondering about this. Are there cases where someone dies within 28 days of a positive test but covid is not mentioned on the death certificate? Or are doctors putting covid down when there has been no positive test? Trying to understand the disparity.

This is the big lie. A death FROM ANYTHING within 28 days of a pos test is a covid death. If you are in hospital, FOR ANYTHING you will be tested routinely. That will probably be positive, as we know. If you die, bingo! Covid death.

The surest indicator of the venality of the media is that the myths around PCR+ results are still being perpetuated when it is one of the biggest stories of fraud in existence.

Any journalist not onto it is either incompetent or venal (bought). There’s no halfway house.

The situation is so serious that the rapists dad has only used one fifth of the ‘vaccine’ they sent him

On the upside, if the ‘rollout’ fails he can cancel the elections. What’s not to like?

“Some more backbone can be dredged up by realizing that once the pseudo-real begins displacing the real for even a few percent of the population, the question is no longer whether things will go bad but how bad they will go before the bubble bursts. Reality will always win, and calamity comes in proportion to the size of the lie between us and it, so it is better to act sooner than later.”

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/

Human beings are (unfortunately) all too capable of living with myths for extended periods of time, regardless of how harmful those myths are.

“Pseudo-realities, being false and unreal, will always generate tragedy and evil on a scale that is at least proportional to the reach of their grip on power—which is their chief interest—whether social, cultural, economic, political, or (particularly) a combination of several or all of these. So important to the development and tragedies of societies are these pseudo-realities when they arise and take root that it is worth outlining their basic properties and structure so that they can be identified and properly resisted before they result in sociopolitical calamities—up to and including war, genocide, and even civilizational collapse, all of which can take many millions of lives and can ruin many millions more in the vain pursuit of a fiction whose believers are, or are made, sufficiently intolerant.”

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/

I am puzzled why the “Philandering Professor”, i.e. Ferguson, has now said he now thinks that London may possibly have herd immunity.

Not that I in any way doubt that herd immunity is likely, but why has he, apparently, changed his mind?

I think that he’s making a cynical attempt to extract himself from the car crash he has had a huge part in causing, and hopes to garner some support from those who currently begrudge him the air he breathes.

Am I thinking too hard about this?

Ferguson wants to remain in Tier 69

Filth!

Had to think about that one for a moment…
Lol!

I do hope that this is the beginning of an addmission that the virus mutation is too quick for vaccinating an entire nation once or twice a year for just one type of coronavirus.
I have detected a subtle change in tone over the last couple of weeks and am hopeful that there is a lot of sqirming going on in the background as to how we get out of this. Once they have blamed the public for causing death and destruction as they are doing now, the only place left to go is very dark indeed.

Telling the truth would be an honourable way of getting out of this but hey, they are all pathological liars so telling the truth is not an option.

Politics, in my opinion, is the art of lying. The problem in my opinion is breaking the egos of the scientists who have got us into this mess. I do hope that the religion of science is to be very short lived and it can once again go back to the scientific method to better humanity.

Haven’t seen this – do you have a link to an article or something?

It was mentioned on Talk Radio a short time ago.

Was in the Times at the weekend

I think this Euromomo chart is pretty clear.

He thinks herd immunity has been reached NOW. I don’t think he is being inconsistent here.

I actually agree with him on this – and disagree with others who claimed we had reached HI in the spring. It will be more difficult for the virus to have a major effect next winter after infections decline over the summer.

Depends what you mean in practical terms as ‘herd immunity’.

Certainly, by September (i.e. allowing for seasonality), any evidence of unusual mortality had vanished.

Anyone who can’t recognize this hard fact contained in the data is pretty dim.

… or pretty venal.

Certainly, by September (i.e. allowing for seasonality), any evidence of unusual mortality had vanished.

No-one could be sure of that and I don’t think it’s true anyway. Following the excess mortality in the spring I would have expected very low mortality in Autumn. It was still above normal.

given that covid has pushed out flu and other seasonal colds this year is there a risk that next year we will be more hard hit by these rather than covid?

It makes no difference WHEN he thinks/thought it, he is saying something which he had not suggested was likely in the past.

Given that the “lockdowns” will only ever delay that HI happening and the utterly useless and damaging modeling of anything he has ever done in the past, the fact that he is saying out loud now that he thinks this, simply shows, in my opinion, what a sniveling waste of air he is, and is simply trying to get himself out of the shit – to put it in simple terms.

Hang on, if we have reached herd immunity before vaccination has had a material impact – where are his 500,000 dead? Also, it is by no means clear that the virus is having a major effect now since total mortality is not out of the ordinary.

Exactly.

Has he said the UK had reached Herd Immunity? London could be close but that’s not the whole of the UK.

In any case, there are different routes to HI. There are also different states which could exist when HI is reached. For example, technically HI could be reached when 60% of the population has been infected. However, that doesn’t mean that infections will suddenly stop. If we still have a large number infected then transmission will continue. On the other hand, if we’d reached HI in, say May, the pandemic would likely have died out completely over the summer.

It all comes down to who gets infected – and when.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but Ferguson’s 500k was under a free-for-all, business as usual scenario.

I don’t honestly know what he said, just what’s been written here. But in any case, extrapolating London deaths nationally, if only London has reached herd immunity in his opinion, gets nowhere near his worst case scenario. And surely we have to assume that however you define herd immunity, it’s an acceptable state to end up in that requires no further intervention?

How are you defining herd immunity? I know the formal definition for HIT is 1 – (1/R0) but this is just theoretical. It tells us the percentage that would need to be immune in theory, but this would assume immunity is a binary and we know that isn’t the case. So this outcome isn’t testable – as I see it the only testable outcome is that we see RT below 1 for one stable period of time.

To draw a parallel- do we have herd immunity for the flu? If so, how do we evidence that this is the case – despite the fact it tends to re-emerge each winter?

Sick to death of government, charities and NGO’s being the ones expected to deal with “loneliness” as if the need for social interaction in a mental health problem and that big government can be your friend instead. I’m sure soon they’ll just introduce AI plastic mannequin ‘friends’ you can hire to talk to, have a dinner party with or a picnic. Hell, why not go the whole way and have marriage ceremonies where you can go down to your local Post Office and “Marry” the state?

Many years ago Germaine Greer pointed out that young girls were having babies and marrying the state.

Civil society is what those groups refer themselves as. It’s this so called civil society that is taking over from our democratic principles.

Government funds a charity. Chairty gives independent thought to government. Government forms policy.

Screw you if you feel personal friendly human contact is important. NGO says thdir numbers say a goldfish in a jar has 80% of the benefits of an actual friend.

From the reports I have read:
1. The two women were given ‘fixed penalty notices’ – which they can refuse to pay (I hope they do) and opt for a magistrates’ court trial of the alleged offences.
2, The law does not require people only to exercise “locally”: that is an invention of government guidance, and is unenforceable.

It is odd that Matt Hancock should have given his unequivocal support to the police on this. Perhaps he does not understand the difference between enforceable law and unenforceable guidance?

Interesting article from the Sydney Morning Herald from the time of the SARS-I scare. Face masks are dangerous!

https://www.smh.com.au/national/farce-mask-its-safe-for-only-20-minutes-20030427-gdgnyo.html

That’s a variation of my dentist saying that their effectiveness is only 15 minutes.

They are still trying to pass the blame to people standing in supermarket queues, while millions have come, gone and stayed in this country, during this, in their millions. looks like a criminal gang are running the country and its a heist of western economies..

Nobody is to blame. Neither people standing in supermarket queues nor visitors to this country.

Viruses will do what viruses do.

pedantic, obviously, to clarify, they (nudge unit) are making the gullible (those that believe in this deadly virus) feel they are to blame for chatting in supermarket queues.

I actually wasn’t intending to be pedantic, sorry it came across like that!

There are a surprising number out there, even some sceptics I’ve come across, who think we could go all NZ and stop the coroni by completely closing the borders, even at this late stage in the game and even though the UK is such a busy transport hub that if we know about a virus somewhere in the world, it’s probably in the UK too. I misunderstood your post.

The nudge unit are really scraping the barrel with the supermarket queue stuff.

I just want to fire some of the blame back onto this government, closing the borders is a stretch but if they want to blame the people already in the country, they need to start accepting a whole shed load of blame themselves

Yes, and they can’t be controlled.

Absolutely, the civilized do not blame the sick for their illness.

Yes. The ‘supermarket’ vector was blown out of the water a long time ago. We carried on more-or-less as normal in supermarkets throughout the April peak.

… and nothing happened.

Absolutely, Rick. The best barometer for all this, something that anyone can see and understand, without those nasty percentages and stuff, has been supermarket workers/customers. I could describe all my regular servers now, in several stores – they’ve all been there throughout.

I for one am absolutely delighted that the pearl clutching, muzzled collaborators are now having to face tougher restrictions due to the “selfish minority” who simply refuse to do as they’re told.

As the only section of the population who actually follow the rules, let’s see how they enjoy a winter spent in total isolation, only leaving their homes for the allowed hour. If it doesn’t wake a few of them up, at least it’ll drive most of them over the edge.

That’s a good angle to approach this from. The zealots are probably going to suffer more than anyone else, because they are getting everything they are baying for, yet conditions are still deteriorating at breakneck speed.

…and if it doesn’t drive them over the edge, we shall just have to tighten further, won’t we.

If they want lockdown, then give it to ’em good and hard.

“ Do you want it sir? Do you really want good and hard sir? Ooh, suit you sir. “

I love it hard!

• “ Video of woman being ‘arrested for sitting on a bench’ was stage managed by anti-lockdown protester ” – MailOnline reports the Dorset Police claim that footage shared widely online, showing three police officers surrounding a woman in Bournemouth, was a fake

Not “fake” – staged is not the same as “fake”. the police still were bullying state enforcers. they just fell for a ploy that got them to do it on camera.

I think we can safely say Dorset plod were “Audited” by the public and Failed miserably.

Indeed. They wouldn’t even get away with an “entrapment” plea imo.

True.

What I find staggering is, that having been roundly criticised for moving an old guy off a bench in the first imprisonment attempt, they were so stupid that no-one amongst them realised the likely public relations disaster of doing what they did on Saturday.

We’re ten months into this and I only know two people who have had Covid-19 and both caught it in hospital in wards that are supposed to be non-Covid. So Matt, it isn’t in supermarkets, pubs, restaurants, coffee shops, it’s in your hospitals.

So Matt, it isn’t in supermarkets, pubs, restaurants, coffee shops, it’s in your hospitals.

And your mind.

Yes the common cold has always been very comfy in our stinking hospitals

not sure if this has been posted but looks like they are still banging on about 1 in 3 asymptomatic. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/asymptomatic-testing-to-be-rolled-out-across-the-country-starting-this-week

As Victor Meldrew used to say “I don’t believe it!”. We are the only country in the world pursuing this ridiculous policy. I guess they need higher numbers of cases to drag this thing out.

Yes the selfish bastards nobody is dying!!

Exactly. By the way, I just got the box DVD set of ‘One Foot in the Grave’. I’ve been channelling my ‘inner Meldrew’ so much lately that I thought I should see the original again.

GAB>>>>>groups>>>> Lockdown sceptics
approved members only
yer welcome

Dolan’s moved over there too:
https://gab.com/Simondolan

Greatwork. I kept worrying t hi is site would suddenly be gone and what would I do… I’ve asked to join the group on gab then nothing happens.. is it just slow?

Be patient – Gab is under a lot of strain at the moment
The groups work sporadically – (normally better when the yanks are asleep )

The least likely to disappear since they ‘own their own metal’ having seen early the way the wind was blowing with the Alex Jones dry run. Their Dissenter browser seems good so far, no social media for me (one blessing for my children at least)

On the Sky news breaking news ticker thingy at the bottom of the screen, Nadhim Zahawi saying the government will not impose new restrictions on the public but will seek to greater enforce those already in place.

Expect this to change with wancocks breifing at 5pm today.

It’s like Punch and Judy.

“ Oh no it isn’t. ”

“ Oh yes it is. “

Naughty, naughty, naughty!

Still time to fashion yourself one of these…
https://t.co/3EihPf2Z68

Reminds me of an old VIZ comic strip. Black Bag, the faithful old black binliner.

Still one of my faves, “women, save money on buying a vibrator, just get an old metal cigar holder and fill it with angry wasps”

It’s all the applied psychology nonsense – dangerous stuff, they are told to make threats to insight violence and intimidation against anyone not complying with their diktats.

As ministers and the psychologists don’t perform the final action against the victim they have a clear conscience and don’t suffer the bad karma.

Greater enforcement of compulsory masks outside the home at all times perhaps?

I’ll pass on that thankyou.

We are living in a time of myths. One of them is a ‘parallel’ between the Brexit situation an Covid. We have another article today which rides that hobby-horse, trying to present the Brexit vote as an ‘anti-establishment’ rebellion by ‘the people’.

Of course – it wasn’t. It represented a split in the establishment, with the majority of the establishment propaganda organs actually following pro-Brexit line. Currently, the establishment organs are solidly pro-Covid. If the BBC maintained the sort of coverage that we saw over Brexit, it would be a very different story.

And, of course, public opinion was very different. The statement :

“ Having being given a referendum, the British people defied their political masters and voted for Brexit. “

… is pure fiction. There was a split vote – far less decisive than the previous referendum – in which a minority of the electorate voted for Brexit.

Were the situation now the same! We currently have a majority supporting the establishment line on Covid, by any realistic measure, and a MSM that comprehensively promotes the same propaganda line.

This is too serious to be able to afford self-serving myths of wish-fulfilment in this current dire situation.

As a declaration of interest, I supported ‘Remain’ – not for any allegiance to European institutions, but as a recognition of the waste of time and effort being expended over an irrelevancy that diverted attention from the real issues (that are now emerging). But my point is simply a factual one.

Agree 100% – that Brexit was a display of so-called popularism with its cynical, carefully crafted “Take Back Control” meme – created by a well-known hypnotist as I recall – is an utterly ludicrous proposition.

Also agree. Power has supposedly been brought back closer to people but the reality is it might as well be a million miles away for the amount of good it is doing us.

As soon as Johnson fronted the Leave campaign, I knew it was a complete and utter fraud. Voted Remain purely because he was in on it. I have seen nothing since to dissuade me from this opinion.

There are those that saw the sheer corruption involved at the heart of the financial system in 2008 and into the 2010s. The price was paid through years of austerity and patronising messages from the stage management polticos (“We’re all in this together”). Communities have become directionless and this is not just in the UK. People can see that any stake the common man has in this statecraft we see today is very much a mirage. They may protest, but it is ignored and belittled as concerns of an uninformed idiotic section of society. Disaffection is rife.

That corruption was laid bare. Why continue to believe in a free economy and meritocracy? You’re hard work can be taken away at a whim. You are being lied to.

So with that, is it any wonder that Brexit and Trump happened? Simply by way of protest? When the people have been given a choice they’ve shown that the old loyalties are no longer valuable.

Of course this protest was registered. But for the establishment this was in a way a wake up call. They could not allow this to happen again. People need to be put in their box again. New myths, new means of control.

The push now to cancel elections is a bright red flag I this regard

“ There are those that saw the sheer corruption involved at the heart of the financial system in 2008 and into the 2010s.”

I was one of them. I also recognized that the key institutions backing Brexit (hedge funds etc.) were deeply mired in corruption and involved in shorting their way to a fast buck.

The Greek situation was particularly enlightening. I think we are witnessing the slow, yet gaining speed, collapse of our system. The answer seems to be to allow a small elite design a new one and usher it in without any acknowledgement of democratic backing. The people are not to be trusted to make the ‘right’ decision

Rick,
Are you suggesting that it is possible to identify just one explanation for the Brexit vote?
My declaration of interest is that I voted remain but changed my mind when I studied the issue in more depth.

Interesting how on the front page of The Times today Prince Charles is given a chance to promote UN Agenda 2030, about it is a headline pretty much promoting martial law. They tie in quite well as the future the technocrats are seeking to impose on the rest of us is pretty much the police state we live in now.

The BBC had him calling for a Carta Mundi ( I think that was it but it translates as World Charter).

Yes, and the date just happened to 2030. When the BBC and The Times give prominence to something you know it is the establishment speaking. A lot of people are going to have a shock when/if they ever wake up from their hysterical covid overreaction. They are busy changing the world whilst the masses sleep.

There are rumours he’ll turn down the throne this year and get fully behind the Agenda 2030 Great Reset as a figurehead. April.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/despite-brexit-britain-is-an-occupied-country/

A scorcher and well worth reading; the author’s assessment of Shuttlecock-