2021-01-20

It’s an utter disgrace what they’ve done to the young.

Things were pretty bad for too many young people before 2020 – and I think of the nearly half of young women aged 16 to 25 who had had some sort of mental health problem – a higher rate than army veterans who have served in combat zones – or the nearly one in four fourteen year old girls who had reputedly self-harmed within the last six months.

And now these inhumane and criminal government restrictions have made it all far worse. It truly is wicked!

Oh, and I said last year that if restrictions continue beyond st Swithin’s day, we’ll have worse than 40 days of rain. Lockdowns continuing beyond Easter is insane and suicidal.

With three kids in their 20s, I will never forgive those who traded my kids’ futures for their supposed “safety”. Then the cowards have the gall to call me selfish.

Lockdowns are political.They have nothing to do with a not very dangerous virus.
Our fellow Britons have been subject to a huge psychological attack by the government and the bought and paid for media.
Direct your anger at the real culprits.

Politics of a kind that makes all that we THOUGHT to be politics, a sideshow – or a matrix of mainstreamed control. So perhaps politics is not the best word. But it isn’t about a virus – in any biological sense at least.

Paid for by us, the cheeky fucks.

Yes, I agree with you. I don’t know a single middle-aged or elderly person who wouldn’t willingly have simply continued life as normal (for themselves and their children’s or grandchildren’s sake) and taken the chance of catching this ‘virus’. Especially as we all knew pretty quickly that the vast majority of us were at no risk.
Listen to Wittery in May:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj8MCsZKlg&feature=youtu.be

I certainly wouldn’t want or expect anyone to put their lives on hold for me and bitterly resent the fact my final chance to achieve the things I couldn’t when I was younger has also been taken away.

Amen Hugh.

Every evening I try to say a short prayer and send positive thoughts to the youth that have had their lives upended by this insanity.

Inanity as well.

God deliver us from these inanities and insanities.

God got you into that.

The extension of a true blessing is better to live and share in than feeding a grievance. It also brings the underlying nature of grievance in to an honesty of being that the thinking mind wont allow, because grievance sets the mind in conflict from which truth is the first casualty.

Unless a mind comes clean of programs and conditions it will remain prisoner in a world it does not understand. Grief as impression/expression of loss is of no lesser value than its inseparable counterpart of joy. The attempt to isolate grief is similar to the desire to remove negativity from life. Everything has its place in life. A battery does not work with a single positive pole. It takes both polarities to ‘create’ electricity.

As a non-theist, I have no problem with people believing in any God. It is people who believe in God who are insecure when someone does not share their view. Man created God in his likeness and it is this succumbing to authority that is now exploited by those who put people under house arrest and take away everything a human being needs to be at peace.

No, it was Boris Johnson.

Let everyone who can pray do likewise.
Adding to a long, long list of victims who need our prayers.

I pray not to or for victims but with the power of the heart that is in everyone alive.
Inspiration, guidance and support are part of a resonance of being. Being a victim does not help. Confirming others as victims feeds a disimpowerment.
Compassion – yes.
I suggest we need to extend blessing to (know that we) have it!

I am about to send a private message to you. Please get in touch.

Not doing a lot for the old either.

Lockdowns harm the elderly. The indiscriminate lockdowns make food deliveries unavailable, so somebody in the household has to venture out for food, increasing risk. And masks increase the risk of potentially catastrophic falls, by restricting the field of vision and fogging up spectacles.

If they ever intend to hold elections again (which I presume they do) they’ve just killed there future voter base.

I really wonder about that . . . . .

‘They’ operate the leveraging of our presumptions.
When they say there’s no going back to ‘normal’ it isn’t just because they are part of a controlled demolition of a corrupt system of human management into a reset to a tighter social contract.
The State – as the technocratic representative of Stakeholders, grants any privilege or freedoms according the tier status or caste.
Eradicating not just the voter base but the idea of people having any real choice in their own life outside of rules and compliances.

We’ve been so predictively programmed to our outcome that when it is here, we do not believe it.

Why would anyone want to bother to vote when hundreds of thousands of fake ballots can be dumped at 3 am? Or a click of a button can install the desired globalist puppet?

Who do we vote for when they’re all the same?

Totally agree- the young are pretty much unaffected by the virus, their education and job prospects are being destroyed and they are going to be the ones paying this ridiculous debt back. The they get told they are being selfish- unbelievable.

Frankly this government should be put in front of a brick wall and executed for what they have done to this country. Its unforgiveable.

Im reading Prof Jordan Petersons book right now, what his outlines is the impact on the younger kids (preschool age) will be even worse especially those from poor or disrupted families, single mothers and so on. They will NEVER recover based on his opinion,

That is the idea behind these ‘policies’.

They are deliberately creating a two tier system of the haves and the have nots.

They are not creating it, they are extending it.

I suppose it is an ongoing process of creation…

What I want to know is what happened to one person one vote? Why does the agenda of (for example) big pharma count ahead of the interests of ordinary voters, even large numbers of ordinary voters?

It might not be explicit as it has been in the past but it is what is happening none the less.

Further to my comment yesterday about the deliberate drive to ruin the future of British/European children, Covid19 is the perfect pretext to finish the job – and the worst part is that it has swept up a large swath of public support from those who have been terrified by propaganda but might previously have been either apathetic or even against damaging the prospects for the young.

One of the major things about this shambles that needs to be clearly established is, why are so many people so easily terrified? Could people always be so easily scared – by a (not excessively dangerous) bug?

As I have mentioned previously, my north London ancestors slept in their own bed during the blitz rather than the official shelters. Do people still have this spirit of courageous defiance? If not, why not?

Most ‘kids’ in that age group are fully into it.
There is practically no resistance and no critical thinking done by them.
As such, most of them fully deserve their mask&lockdown-support
related miserable future.

Some may be into it, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t wrecking their lives of all of them.

No, they’ve been damaged by the culture and environment they’ve been brought up in, I suspect. They are victims too. With so many having mental health problems, and probably most of the rest probably having quite a lot to worry about, there’s only so much one can expect.

Either way, this shambles isn’t going to help them.

Yes, Hugh. Three months, and one Paracetamol overdose later, my girl is home from university.

I am so sorry. I had two girls in university and my youngest has suffered from mental health challenges, but before all of this insanity. She dropped out of school recently, which Covid accelerated, but will be switching to a trade school in the fall. She was not doing well mentally before dropping out so I understand your pain. Oddly, she is now spending her time as a gaming streamer and actually making good money at it. I will never forgive those who have done this to our children and I worry every day that mine will get through this. My thoughts are with you and your daughter and I wish her the best.

Thank you, Lisa. Good wishes to you and your children too x

Poor love. Better off out of there!
I hope she’s physically ok. At least she’s come home to someone who’s sane.

Thing is, Cheezilla, she thinks I am quite the opposite of sane, but glad to get home to mommie dearest, all the same

University was stressful enough already, and probably not least because of the fees, which they were protesting about in my day. How much worse must it be in these circumstances. I’m sorry to hear about what happened to her, and pray that she comes out the other side ok.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GqAbeSggcnw

Neil Oliver sums it up perfectly.

Do you know the Scientific History of Lockdowns? A Must Watch – CRUCIAL .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=978zLJJLo-I&list=WL&index=78

Ivor Cummins

THANKS to KATE WAND FOR THIS SUPERB MINI-DOCUMENTARY on LOCKDOWN SCIENCE!

This film is based on a letter by an international team of professionals, researchers and activists, calling for an expedited investigation into scientific fraud in public health policies .

Full letter here: https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium …

Hmmm… can’t reach this page

Here you go:
https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b

I Wonder Why The BBC & Sky News Didn’t Report This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfnHC_ySFjk

Anti Lockdown Protests in Austria – sings “Make Influenza Great Again”
WE GOT A PROBLEM

News Roundup | NY Judge Orders Hospital To Use Ivermectin, Woman Recovers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6pm5T_E4rw

From: TrialSite News

“New York Supreme Court Judge Order: Give The Patient Ivermectin As Court Battle Leads to Ivermectin for Successful Treatment Against COVID-19:
A judge ordered the Millard Fillmore Suburban Hospital to allow an 80-year old woman to be treated with Ivermectin. According to the family their attorney, the treatment saved the life of Judith Smentkiewicz. Although not yet approved, according to court documents, the woman’s daughter referred to it as a “miracle drug,” as do her attorneys, Ralph C. Lorigo and Jon F. Minear. Apparently, a doctor ordered the drug off-label in the intensive care unit (ICU), and as she improved, she was moved to another unit, and the doctor there stepped in and disallowed the use of the drug. Family members immediately involved lawyers and legal action to resume treatment. And now, The New York Supreme Court Judge Henry J. Nowak has aligned with the family.
https://trialsitenews.com/new-york-su …

Nigeria Government Making Moves to Fund Ivermectin Research Targeting COVID-19: IVERCOVID Program:
The Nigerian federal government commissioned a team of researchers to investigate the efficacy of Ivermectin as a potential treatment for COVID-19. Known as “IVERCOVID,” this group just may impact the world’s approach to treating COVID-19, at least in the developing world.
With ivermectin gaining traction as a potential treatment option, the country’s political leadership becomes ever more intrigued. For example, Vice President Yemi Osinbajo’s declared that Nigeria and Nigerians “are at the cutting edge of scientific research into the COVID-19 treatment.” Fascinated with the fact that the drug is already in use in the country to combat river blindness, the Vice President is considering how to leverage this African nation’s considerable experience and understanding of the drug given growing data pointing toward its potential benefits as a treatment and even prophylactic medication targeting COVID-19. “

Andrew “The Gawdfadduh” Cuomo is piiiissed!

Build Back Better Video Goes VIRAL! / Hugo Talks #lockdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQgF-5hqaSE

Add this to the New Normal docu on bitchute & the dots join up! I have been onto The Great Reset for months when it appeared in booklet form on Amazon for anyone to purchase ! Surely all this needs disproving asap OR it is TRUE ! ( HELP)

Asia’s Climate Ambitions
Tony Heller 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMzgsxZxwzQ

mRNA Vaccines vs. Oxford-AstraZeneca Vaccine (from Livestream #61)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcdnoagoxQ 

Put them in the center of a boxing ring and let ’em fight it out.

Stolen from Steven Wright’s dehumidifier vs humidifier joke.

Lockdowns Cost Lives
We believe in getting back to normal – the old normal

https://backtonormal.org.uk/

While freedom of association, movement and speech may be possible if something shifts at a deeper level, how do you not know what has been and is being revealed by this psychosis? The official covering narrative offers a living death in a human lab rat system – but is a contraction of the old normal and not a true ‘natural’.
The underlying disease is being revealed and suppressing symptoms in and of itself will not do more than move the furniture while presenting as progressive change.

Most of what covid and other similarly destructive narratives are doing is the result of social engineering or ‘mind control’ that has run throughout our lives.

So while I am not attacking your desire I don’t share the framing of old and new normals as being aligned in our true being and therefore our true needs.

We need a new and improved (like detergent TV ads) old normal.

“But to hit the Government’s target of 13.9million people by February 15th, which is the threshold at which officials will consider relaxing lockdown”.
Just lovely! Once again it will be my fault if there is perpetual lockdown, not only did I visit a friend (unmasked – the horror!), but I also refused a vaccine.

Good for you. If only everyone did that

All the stories today are very bleak and, alas, entirely unsurprising. Most bleak of all is the utter absence of any active resistance. Instead, Britain descends into a witch craze. A repulsive and unforgivable spectacle.

There is mass resistance, everyday. Just because it is not sensational does not mean it does not exist nor does it mean it is not significant. Remember Rosa Parks merely declined to follow a rule on a bus journey.

Well said, Steve; a very significant point.
The MSM keep “bangin” on about how “we must not lower our guard”, well from this part of the woods (South Shropshire), I would say that only about 30 % of people ever put up a guard in the first place.

Or one could think of it another way perhaps – “the weakest link in the chain” and get busy identifying those weak links.

Good point. Thanks.

And a traditional journalist made sure that the event became news..

I’m out and about maskless every day and usually have a dozen or more close up encounters with others, mostly masked, sometimes not.
I have experienced no hostility in recent months and certainly do not feel the victim of a witch hunt. If the conversation goes that way most agree to a certain amount if scepticism sometimes to a surprising degree.

Perhaps whitch hunt frenzy is a London thing.

I wouldn’t be surprised

I’m interpreting events through the media from Thailand, so I’m open to correction, and glad to hear that sanity hasn’t been derailed everywhere.

Maybe because my NHS Region didn’t have much of a first wave and not much of a second.
Despite lurid headlines about rising ‘cases’ and speculation about what might happen in two weeks time Local Live online (mirror group news) has been unable to report any new deaths for some days now.

Meeja schmeeja.

Like all our other current ills, it’s largely a media thing.

How small, of all that human hearts endure,
That part which laws or kings can cause or cure!

Oliver Goldsmith, The Traveller, lines supplied by Dr. Johnson

I live in London and have not encountered hostility for months now. In fact I have people who deliberately approach me for a chat possibly because I’m the only face they see.

This witch hunt frenzy I suspect takes place in the la-la land of academia. Strange things always happen there.

Yes, academia is definitely la-la land! Another reason why I’m glad I haven’t been at my university for months. I avoid most of my academic colleagues online whenever possible. It would be great if academic people would eat themselves, and I think this might happen.

Stirling is fine, though more seem to be wearing masks outdoors than before. Still, most people are not and most people will smile if you smile.

I didn’t finish my PhD due to financial reasons and everyday I thank God that I’m not in academia.

Maybe they will eat themselves especially if they find themselves out of a job as the universities become even more short of cash due to falling enrollment figures and having to fight off court cases from irate students and their parents.

Or a political/MSM thing.

The crucial part is to not stop conversing with those who are intimidated and fearful. Fear has been the preferred tool to make people obey idiotic and self harming policies. Bernays told the corporations and Fascists how its done. It is essential to not give up on those who succumbed to the disease called propaganda.

From my experience it seems to depend a lot on personality. You can almost pick out the personality types who will be absolute slaves to the narrative and those who will tend to question and also those who are receptive once they hear a different view.

Witch-hunt frenzy – evil rich & powerful conjured, behavioural ‘scientists’ midwived , rich people’s governments ordained, media promoted, twats & 77th. implemented.

London just happens to be HQ.
AG

Is this not a myth pushed by the media that Sceptics are under the cosh and are demons in another form? I have only met one person that is for lockdowns. Everyone else I have met, be it work colleagues, friends, family, key workers etc are against it. We just don’t have a very loud voice as the MSM has well and truly won the shouting match as they have vast sums of money and OFCOM bought and paid for. I could be wrong though :).

It’s the media that likes bleak, maybe they’re looking at the weather. No first wave here to speak of and hospital cases have been falling since late October. It’s rare to see a mask when out and about and local beauty spots may be up to their knees in mud but they are still busy with unmasked families and friends. More and more there is gentle civil disobedience but it’s something not spoken about. It just happens.

Where is ‘here’?

Better not to ask.

World freedom alliance very encouraging

Lockdowns until Easter? I’m not even in the UK and reading this sort of idiocy makes me so angry pretty soon I’m going to start biting people. I’ll start with the mask nazis.

And how are they paying for this again?

(They’ll have to put you in a muzzle! )

That’ll be a cold day in hell

It’ll be a different kind of mask for you then

Better than biting might be a T-Shirt with an appropriate notion printed on it. “What is worse? A disease that healthy people have no problems with – or the lunacy of the fearful mask wearers?”

On second thought, biting might give You an edge…

Hope its not Rabies, err unless you plan to visit our parliament,

Don’t forget the salt and pepper.

Hello

G’day

(And don’t forget, you didn’t come here to die, you came here yesterdie!)

And on Sadlidie….

Twice on Sundridie …

A million died on Mondie…

Mondie’s child is fair of face, but nobody knows this because she’s wearing a mask.
Tuesdie’s child is full of grace on TikTok, but you should see the 83 versions she binned before finally smashing it in the 84th.
Wednesdie’s child is full of woe. Aren’t we all?
Thursdie’s child has far to go, and her journey is absolutely essential, she dares you to suggest otherwise.
Fridie’s child is loving and giving and runs a delightful cafe in Essex somewhere,
Saturdie’s child works hard for a living, so her taxes can pay for those on furlough.
And the child that is born on the Sabbath day
Is bonny and blithe, and good and gay until she meets some jobsworth copper trying to bundle her into a van, whereupon she morphs into a Tasmanian devil and rips out his liver with her teeth.

(Sorry, I was just having a break from work. I know it has no connection with the “die” thing, but I still enjoyed writing it.)

Wonderful! No need to apologise!

As I was born on a Thursday, sorry, Thursdie, I agree with the sentiments.

(I too am Thursdie’s child!)

See that smile, a beautiful thing,
But don’t take me to task
you can’t see, my beautiful smile
Behind this fucking mask!!

Any news on excess deaths for the first week of the year?

Reckon I can guarantee it’s not 6,298 (or however many they’re claiming have died within 28 days of a positive test result).

17,000 odd overall, which is ~5000 more than last year.

Where did you get the number, I thought they were not releasing death all cause? Also don’t forget 2020 was a very mild death year in January and February. Check the deaths against a bad year of the flu. I bet the numbers are very similar.

There is a rollover of excess deaths from Week 53. Data shows 12254 for week1, in line with 12175 for the past five years.

Brendan O’Neil in spiked talks about lockdown sceptics’ failed predictions.

What, exactly, have we got wrong?
It seems to be something about the second wave but we are not wrong. We have always said that there was going to be a seasonal rise exacerbated by the withdrawal of health services and wrongly attributed deaths because of pcr. I’m increasingly thinking we are seeing vaccine impacts but we will never be given the data for that.

No, the ones who have been continuously wrong are those putting restrictions upon us.

In fact it has been worse than wrong. They have lied, lied and lied again. Do not budge an inch. We are right and they are terribly, fatally wrong.

The CDC in the US found that over 2% of those vaccinated had serious adverse reactions.

The virus infection has passed through the bulk of the population as a result of wholly natural processes and evidence indicates that in the UK and other heavily infected European countries the spread of the virus has been all but halted by a substantial reduction in the susceptible population. …. The evidence presented in this paper indicates that there should be no expectation of a large scale ‘second wave’ with smaller localised outbreaks when the virus contacts pockets of previously uninfected populations.

Is not exactly looking like a sound prediction, is it?

https://lockdownsceptics.org/addressing-the-cv19-second-wave/

Vaccine impact will be on deaths in the next month or so, then admissions after about 3-6 months.

There wasn’t a second wave!
It was a casedemic. The virus peaked last April.

I wondered if it was a dig at Toby.

O’Neill is a pillock obsessed by Brexit. If he really thinks Brexit matters compared with this tyranny he is out of his mind.

I cannot help but notice that there is much pessimism expressed in the comments. This pessimism is in my opinion unfounded and, if left unchecked, counter-productive, as it would inevitably undermine our morale and our power to resist.

I suspect this pessimism stems from the lack of substantial victories and sensational, large scale acts of protest. Whilst these would be wonderful for morale and for the fight against the madness, to expect them, given the strength of the forces promoting the lockdowns, is simply unrealistic. And, unrealistic expectations inevitably result in a sense of failure and futility, which is why we should recognise and accept that at the moment we are only capable of small acts of resistance.

But we should not undervalue those small acts of resistance. Every act of non-compliance is a victory. In yesterday’s edition, JohnDanny in a comment related an experience. He refused to wear a face mask. https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/01/19/latest-news-259/#comment-366425 It was an act of heroism. It was a step forward for all of us. It was no less heroic, and no less significant, than Rosa Parks’ act of defiance.

Ignore the rules.

On off lockdown is the new normal until enough people say no.This has been the situation since the start.
I really think Easter is the key.Once the weather breaks and the vulnerable have been vaccinated then even the most docile sheep will understand there is no rationale for continued restrictions.

Agree. Easter is the flex point. I’m afraid from what I see round me, that I think most people will sigh, but continue to comply, in thrall to government propaganda.
I feel like a drama queen saying this, but sometimes the only way out seems runaway inflation & currency collapse, which could take years.

inflation is up from 0.3% to 0.6% today. That’s an exponential rise. At that rate it’ll be 2,457.6% this time next year. They need to ban shopping.

Mass non-compliance would certainly bring about an end to the madness. What would trigger that level of non-compliance is unknowable, unpredictable, but it could happen at any moment. Even those who are promoting the lockdowns say they do not want the restrictions, that they want life to be normal. If something were to happen that suddenly and clearly revealed the futility, the counter-productive, harmful nature of restrictions, it would completely change the situation, and, many hitherto staunch supporters of lockdowns would be demanding an end to the restrictions. There are moments in history when what was a tiny minority position suddenly becomes the dominant position and the world changes.

I hope you’re right! Of course I do.
Everyone who’s scared that I know is just getting more scared. Even doubters are being captured by the fear. It’s so mad and sad and wicked.

Look to behaviour, rather than words. Lots of people repeat what they think is the correct opinion. But when their own behaviour is out of kilter with the correct opinion, they stop regurgitating the received narrative and provide justifications for what they are doing. Such justifications inevitably lead to further changes in behaviour.

In my many discussions with LD fanatics, when I point out to them, their own body language belies the words coming out of there mouths, when they get eyeball to eyeball with me. The blank expressions are priceless!

Yesterday on the bbc they really did do a spot from a morgue, with crying nurses. Yep great reporting, no fear mongering there. I saw this reported by Alex belfield. I can’t go near the bbc as iI would end up with a very expensive foot through the TV. Don’t you find it amazing we are all calmly talking about opening at Easter as if that is fucking acceptable! We have been in a lockdown of one sort or another since October. in places like Manchester they have been shut down since September. So how is this fucking working? Just using your bullshit death numbers its failing on every level. Then we add your bullshit cases and these are still high. And all this is being caused by me not wearing a mask? Do the fat pig dictator and handjob listen to themselves speaking? Just do a review, we did this the numbers went up, mmmm! Shall we try something else? NO SCIENTIST WOULD ACCEPT THIS FAILURE WITHOUT TRYING A DIFFERENT METHOD!

I don’t see anyone complying around where I live. The trouble is nowhere is open, except supermarkets and I don’t go to them, so it’s very difficult to demonstrate that non-compliance. Have had plenty of people round for tea (or beer) but that ain’t gonna get on the front pages!

Easter is too long for the children though. A whole term. That’s an eternity when you’re young.

You mean once “the vulnerable” have been sacrificed to the great god vaccine?

Easter is the key. Ash Wednesday and the start of Lent should also be a marker point towards the end of lockdown.

The government will not ever end any of its ludicrous Covid restrictions, unless and until enough people force it to do so. I doubt that will happen by Easter.

Stop kicking the resolution down the road.
Emphasise the massive personal and economic damage that is being racked by LDs and the fact that human rights laws are being broken.

Well said

Exactly. People forget that everything starts from small steps and for us who have been doing small acts of resistance, we should carry on and let others see us. The rest should hopefully follow.

I agree with the others who have commented, Easter will be the tipping point. Thee weather will be better then and we’ll get a better picture of the bad state of the economy during the first quarter of this year.

Once the dam breaks, I predict that more and more people will wake up.

It ain’t over until WE say it’s over.

Ah. Is that why there’s talk of cancelling the May local elections?

Excellent. JohnDanny’s actions were ‘textbook’. Always respond from a standpoint of authority.

Interestingly I caught and advert on commercial radio late last night from Sainsubry’s about wearing masks in store and I thought oh no here we go again. My mood was immediately brightened when as part of the main advert they actually referenced the fact that you didn’t have to wear a mask or provide proof if you were exempt.

I found myself wondering if the letter referenced in yesterdays comments to all supermarket CEOs about the legal requirement not to discriminate was starting to filter through.

And that was the result of some small acts of resistance, much like JohnDanny’s.

Not to mention that Disability Rights UK and the EHRC are fast snapping at their heels.

In my opinion, this pessimism stems from the fact that people no longer know what to do with themselves in a situation like this. Imagine the differences between a gardener, or a model railroader (or similar) and those who are already entirely depending on bad news/interwebs. It is well known that consumerism and lack of worldly activities leaves people empty. “Be here – now” seems also to help a lot to break the constraints.

HERE _ HERE – BRAVO

Interesting your thoughts on pessimism. A friend finally found their way here to read what was written. The conclusion was that the main blog was very interesting as it had things on that nobody would normally see but the comments were the biggest put off ever. If you aren’t happen with things you could end up totally depressed after reading what folk wrote.

As I didn’t know what they’d read, day or comments, just told them to try another day or two. Are we, in some ways, possibly our own worst enemy though? As Steve says, every act of non-compliance is a victory, so maybe the little things should be celebrated more.

I think that many of us spend too much time here and dwell on the negative. It’s easy to have a bad day and fear that this will never end. We can look at historical precedents and worry that they are being repeated. On the other hand, we should look at Rosa Parks and others who resisted, on an individual basis, and remember where that went. Let’s try to be more positive. I agree that Easter is likely to be the turning point as long as many of us are willing to fight back.

Remember that the third Monday in January has in recent years (until they made every day blue) been called Blue Monday as the most unhappy day of the year. We are at the very nadir in mood at at the very height of the Govt propaganda storm. Hold the line.

Good point!

yesterday i talked to strangers who werent masked and we all say we re not getting that poison vaccine

I wrote a long comment, but suddenly don’t have the heart to post it. The tl;dr version is “wherever we are on the political, vaccine and conspiracy/cockup spectra, let’s unite against what we all know to be evil.”

Instead of that, I’ll offer this, a favourite poem. I sang Samuel Barber’s setting for baritone and orchestra a number of years ago. And I’ve stood on many a beach thinking similar thoughts. It seems particularly pertinent now.

Dover Beach

The sea is calm tonight.
The tide is full, the moon lies fair
Upon the straits; on the French coast the light
Gleams and is gone; the cliffs of England stand,
Glimmering and vast, out in the tranquil bay.
Come to the window, sweet is the night-air!
Only, from the long line of spray
Where the sea meets the moon-blanched land,
Listen! you hear the grating roar
Of pebbles which the waves draw back, and fling,
At their return, up the high strand,
Begin, and cease, and then again begin,
With tremulous cadence slow, and bring
The eternal note of sadness in.

Sophocles long ago
Heard it on the Ægean, and it brought
Into his mind the turbid ebb and flow
Of human misery; we
Find also in the sound a thought,
Hearing it by this distant northern sea.

The Sea of Faith
Was once, too, at the full, and round earth’s shore
Lay like the folds of a bright girdle furled.
But now I only hear
Its melancholy, long, withdrawing roar,
Retreating, to the breath
Of the night-wind, down the vast edges drear
And naked shingles of the world.

Ah, love, let us be true
To one another! for the world, which seems
To lie before us like a land of dreams,
So various, so beautiful, so new,
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.

Matthew Arnold

A great poem about the loss of religious faith. Now it serves well as an elegy for lost sanity.
But not everyone at that time had lost his faith. And not everybody now has lost his or her sanity.
Some of us have kept both and will do so for ever.

Et s’il n’en reste qu’un, je serai celui-là.

Magnificent.

I love this post. Thank you.

Knowing that you are in Thailand this actually made me think of an entirely different beach. Maenam on Samui looking out at the lights of Phangan.

Your core message is quite right. Unity.

I grew up near beaches and one of the things I miss about Northumberland is walking along the vast expanse of Druridge, which is never the same place twice. I love beaches as thresholds between the known and the unknown, the things believed secure and the things known insecure. I need beaches at the moment and it’s a sadness, for the moment, to be trapped in Bangkok and unable to get to the sea (or, more specifically given the insane regulations, to be able to go there but not come back). I’ve actually never been to Samui. My favourite is Ao Soun Yai on Koh Maak, and the moment I can get there, I’ll go. Go yachting off Koh Maak in the 70s and you’d have stood a fine chance of being kidnapped by the Khmer Rouge and disappeared in Tuol Sleng (appropriately enough, the name means Strychnine Hill). It happened to a Northumbrian who I believe went to my school. Warnings from history all over the place. Terrible arrogance to believe our times are somehow magically different.

Have you also sung John Adams’ setting of Whitman’s The Wound Dresser? Didn’t realise Barber had set that, will have a listen.

No, I haven’t. Just listened to it. It’s wonderful. (About the Barber I should have written baritone and string quartet, by the way, not orchestra.)

Moving indeed.

Remember friends, they’re only brave enough to attempt forcing this new world on us because of the police and armies they control – the ones you, I and every mortal that treads these shores pays for.

They’re cowards – their day will come.

Let reason be exhausted
In vain for all to see.
Then let the inevitable commence,
Hear our roar, feel our might
The people.
You may know us as we.

Ever since this fiasco begun I have been confused about the death stats. Every Tuesday and Wednesday show high figures for the day before. As far as I am aware the register offices are closed Saturday and Sunday.

To my way of thinking the stats reported for Saturday and Sunday are reported to PHE from the hospitals, thus when the deaths are registered by the families on Mondays and Tuesdays I guess the figures are sent to PHE.

Therefore it seems to me that there is ‘double counting’ going on.

I would be happy if someone could tell me I am wrong or right.

Thank you for reading this post

The death statistics are hard to follow, I made a fool of myself yesterday by not realising the ONS had added an extra line to the weekly death report and then trying to reed the spreadsheet on an old mini-computer and getting the figure wrong! Sometimes it seems that the powers that be may be getting themselves into much the same sort of mess.
To my mind part of the problem arises because of the push at the start of this hoo-haa for daily death figures. So that we now have the the daily PHE/NHS/Gov scary daily death figures and these are very much subject to fluctuations due to weekends and holiday periods. Only later do we get the more definitive ONS report of registered deaths.

Clearly in April/May 2020 death rates went through the roof and alarmed everybody and drove the demand for rapid death figures. But in my view after April/May 2020 death rates have been much closer to the normal and not such as to warrant drastic public health actions. But having started this daily death data idea they are now hooked and we are bombarded with daily scary death figure in order to fuel the madness.

I feel we need some sort of Office for Statistical Reality to sort this out and give a clear picture. To some extent I thought and hoped the CEBM would fulfil this role but instead of embracing this worthy unit it seems the ruling Junta have sidelined them and Carl Heneghan has become one of the disappeared.

easy mistake to make! we’ve all done it

what we need is what Sweden has

https://scb.se/hitta-statistik/statistik-efter-amne/befolkning/befolkningens-sammansattning/befolkningsstatistik/pong/tabell-och-diagram/preliminar-statistik-over-doda/

our weekly all cause mortality is screwed up for about 4 weeks due to Xmas

Alarm is the whole point – at no point have they ever gone for reassurance because they know the truth is no more alarming than previous years ‘Elderly people dying of flu! An underfunded NHS getting overwhelmed!’ The true panic is being left out of the papers – see
off-guardian comments for a brilliant analysis of the US dollar being on the brink of collapse (middle of comments on the ‘I’m a covid denier’ article) – it’s the best explanation for what’s happening now with the fabricated pandemic in the world of interconnected currencies and economies and makes so much more sense than many of the other theories I’ve seen.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/01/20/it-is-a-journalists-duty-to-question-lockdown/

A good one in Spiked.

Here in the joyous land of Sturgeonia, we’ll have to endure at least 4-6 weeks of solitary confinement.

My small town is now a virtual dead zone; even the local Gregg’s has now closed, while children stay at home, apart from the lucky few.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/retailers-fear-losses-as-sturgeon-extends-lockdown-for-scots-till-mid-february-39986897.html

I live in a city here and its very dead. Everyone still thinks it will be alright, once they realise it won’t be that’s when we have to get them to our side before the Sturgenator throws out some BS like UBI to hook them in.

She is a communist and must be removed.

Let’s hope, that if May’s elections do go ahead, that sufficient numbers will rebel against the Sturgeonator and the cult.

I’m still baffled by the strength of her hold over hitherto bolshy and tough minded Scots.

I hope people revolt before then.

She is an awful person that seems to have some hold over the population and I can’t help wondering if it’s all a diversion from her impending case with Mr salmond.

https://sourcenews.scot/robin-mcalpine-nicola-sturgeon-this-is-a-matter-of-the-integrity-of-scotland-as-a-nation/

It’s also worth noting one of heroes is Hilary Clinton. Isn’t our friend Ms Sridah in with the Clinton clan?

Recently discovered a good word that describes her well – Termagant. “A harsh-tempered, or overbearing woman”

Ooh I didn’t know only women could be termagants.
it suits her well

Nice one, that’s a keeper

Unfortunately, she mirrors the inner state of many Scottish people, hence her appeal.

During my 10 years living in Scotland I’ve always sensed there was something authoritarian about many Scottish people. Ditto their puritan streak.

Probably why the SNP gets a free pass – they appeal to the inner authoritarian of the Scots.

Yes, exactly. And a large number of Scots are just a miserable bunch.

Mr Bart who is Scottish has said that’s one thing he dislikes about the Scots.

The grievance mentality, which the Sturgeonator has raised to an art form.

If you don’t mind saying and since we are talking about country of birth, I have seen you say you come from a place much more authoritarian than here. Where were you born? (and you don’t have to answer!)

I’m from the Philippines. Lived through a dictatorship (Marcos) and its “democracy” in name only but more of an oligarchy.

C-19 is being leveraged to destroy small and medium-sized businesses and make people dependent on the state in line with the Agenda.

Another day I shed more tears. I’m working up writing my next email to my useless brainwashed MP and I have this question. I am under house arrest for committing no crimes and I am not allowed visitors and yet I find that if I had committed a crime pre 2020 and was held prisoner at HM pleasure I would be entitled to visitors and more importantly my visitors would be able to travel to see me. Why can’t I?

https://www.sps.gov.uk/Corporate/Information/covid19/covid-19-information-hub.aspx

There is no conceivable reason for lockdowns(to last) they should end tomorrow!

If the vaccine works, then you only need vaccinate the vulnerable, no not nurses, doctors, police, NHS admin, teachers etc etc, just those people likely to have severe covid! That’s enough to stop the NHS being overwhelmed & saving politicians careers.

If the vaccines don’t/aren’t working, then its evident there’s no magical cure & we have to live with covid19 the same way we have with every other respiratory disease before. There is no logical excuse to carry on with this.

REMEMBER we were told, vaccines were the only way to end LOCKDOWN !!! Now vaccines seem to be keeping us in lockdown.

STOP pissing away lives & money, increase hospital capacity you’ve had nearly a year to work it out.

This is not a public health crisis, they aren’t controlling a virus they are controlling us.

Stop living, Save the virus, Control lives?

Well said and my sentiments exactly. We need businesses to open up like in Italy

Believe me, some of us are trying! I wish my counterparts in this corner of NW Essex would grow a pair!

Seriously considering that today’s blackboard should read:

I’m ready for my close-up, snitch.

OPEN FOR BUSINESS!

That’ll get Ms EHO choking on her biscuit!

Go, kh, go!!!!

If my business partner is reading this, he probably just choked on his coffee!

I doubt she’ll get the reference! Great movie though.

Hear, hear!!! Like I’ve said before, if my workplace wants to break ranks and reopen, I will be the first to volunteer to work and welcome visitors with my smiling face.

To hell with the bloody vaccines with their limited efficacy and side effects.

Fortify immune systems (C,D3,Zinc + ionophore)

Treatments ( Ivermectin, Early stage HCQ)

That won’t do, we need the genocidal vaccines.

Not all the so called “vulnerable” wish to be vaccinated.

And I’m one of them. Come near me with their genocidal needle and I’ll take one of them with me.

Exactly. Very well said. This is the only message now that sceptics should be saying. People with access to the MSM, should be saying this continually. Come on Toby et al. hammer this point home.

It’s now primarily an international pi**ing contest about who has the least Covid deaths/million inhabitants.
And those nations that are at the bottom of that table are now focussing on being the fastest vaccinating ones instead- which could well increase their death toll over the others further in due course.

‘Lockdown’ (oddly it keeps coming up as ‘Lickdown’ on the ipatt) is simple gaslighting of the population. Very much like ‘Operation Iraqi Liberation’ or OIL.
It really is a Lock-up of people that did nothing else but comply with everything that was demanded from them for hundreds of years. Thousands, probably.

The rich always called the shots and as long as that is not remedied, they will continue to keep the upper fist. Trillions for war corporations – but nothing for the ruined lives of the many. As I mentioned before: compost the rich and things won’t be as bleak any longer.

At tomorrows Daily Briefing the Director of Communications is expected to announce . . .

Act like you’re all aerosols.

They wont have these sharp suit made by Hugo Boss. They will look like fucking used cars salesman from the 90s. They cant even get their outfits rights, fucking disgrace.

If people put up with lockdown after it’s first anniversary or,in particular,the Easter holiday then we have a real structural problem in UK society.
I personally,for what it’s worth, do not think any change in attitude will suddenly erupt; more likely is a gradual shuffling off of restrictions by people rather than the spontaneous throwing off of chains. It just seems more like the British self conscious way of wait and see what others will do first.
More positively, like others, I see more people on the roads in the morning going to work than at the beginning of the year.I live in a small city with a large public sector workforce so many may well be working from home but traffic outside the city in particular has increased markedly. People want to save their jobs and businesses despite the government, msm and police.
It would be nice if the public could respond by going out to support those people and use what busineese are open aand encourage others to open.
If this goes beyond Easter I do not know how we will cope with our perceptions of this country and it’s people let alone it’s politicians,journalists and scientists.

Working on the premise that the government tends to float ideas as rumours in places like the Daily Mail to
gauge the public mood before deciding a course of action, every day this week has seen the goalposts move again. Now it is Easter, with drift into May/June. But I notice there is now talk of “the possible exception for schools”, which I can only assume is because longer closure for schools didn’t go down well.
This is why it is so very important never to acquiesce. Never to give a resigned shrug. Every day these zealots are testing the boundaries of our collective patience. There is no police force in the world that could enforce any of this against our will, let alone the 3 PCOs and a dog that most cities in the UK have. There is no politician in this spineless and petrified government and opposition that would not fold in a heartbeat if they felt the public was not with them.

No police here at all (except when there’s a stabbing). The fine 1906 police station is now a (real) police museum complete with broken windows.

We’ve got loads of police here. Especially when you are committing the heinous crime of doing what your customers want. But, get burgled, get verbally abused, report drug dealing and nada. Our police station and the land surrounding was developed into luxury housing – a snip at just over a million quid a time.

I do think they float stuff in the media to gauge reaction. Which is why pushing back is important.

If you haven’t come across it before see the “Overton WIndow” theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

Been happening for years, notice how they get a solitary MP to always poke their head above & test the marksmans aim(public opinion) same as with covid non i mean non of these politicians are genuine i dont trust a single one of them. Not even Swaine.

None* i hate auto correct.

That happens here in Australia, too. The idea most floated is “let’s open the borders some and let more people in from overseas”. Sadly, it keeps getting shot down. Here on Prison Island, so many are glad the borders are still shut – either because they’re ridiculously afraid of importing more Kung Flu, or because they’re glad to see an indefinite halt to temporary migration. Vaccine scepticism is on the rise, though, so that’s one positive. Me and my husband are already wondering what’s on the horizon for the southern hemisphere winter. Most likely the stupid will continue, but I can dream.

I really do so much appreciate reading all your stories and your encouragement of each other. It makes me feel less alone in my views, which I just don’t feel able to express at work.

Saw Bob Geldof yesterday face covered (literally) up to the eye balls walking into town. We live on opposite sides of Stonebridge Pond. He seemed surprised by my cheery call of “The disguise isn’t fooling anyone!”. Would have been better a day earlier but cheered me up anyway.

Feed the Paranoia, Bob.

Like Bono, another, woke, hectoring Irish asshole. On behalf of Ireland, I would like to thank the UK for taking Geldof – can you pick up Bono as well?

Noooo…..can we send him back?

If you don’t want him, we can send him to Alpha Centauri.

Yes but Van the Man is doing his bit for freedom

Gob Beldorf

Glad to see the communist goals being realised by more people.

THIS MUST BE RESISTED!

Think the great reset is a ‘conspiracy’ please tell me why so many countries in the west have followed the same creation of rules and laws. Why so many ghosts of the political past i.e Brown, Blair etc are calling for World government.

It’s all a stepping stone. Do not think we are on the same level as the political class, they won’t get vaccinated much in the same way Blair would continue to fly in private jets as “science will find the answer” to climate change which he quite obviously doesn’t believe in apart from to push further control, the same control that the covid emergency powers are granting by decree.

This is fast becoming a war of ideals, yet only one side realise it and its not us.

I really don’t understand this push towards World Government. Given how sclerotic the EU has shown itself to be in these and past times why do they think that WG would be any better?

It’s ironic that as nations seek to take back their own sovereignty and self determination the useful idiots push for more b ureaucracy

Response topics raised

1. How can masks work? If you don’t eat your meat, if you don’t eat your meat, how can your mask work! (Masks become saturated within in minutes of use, you’d have to change them every 10 minutes, continuously touching your face, but what about your eyes? Should we blindfold ourselves too?)
2. Modelling isn’t fucking science, its arrogant speculative assumption.
3. We’ve entered a new medieval period for sure.
4. Yes each life has equal value, just not all lives are equal, I sincerely believe my life is more important than yours (nature made me & you this way) I fully understand if you feel the opposite way. No one has a right to chose who gets to live or die, NO ONE not government, not the NHS, not lockdown communists, not sage, not nervtag, not science technocrats, NO ONE, nature intended it to be this way, I wont be socially shamed, blackmailed or manipulated into abandoning natural process & believing otherwise, the social contract has limitations.
5. No the NHS doesn’t have heroes it has employees, people paid by public taxes to serve the interests of their patients.
6. PC Gobbledegook: Fuck Off (freedom of speech, its my right to offend, hate speech bigots)
7. Yes masks exhale more smoke than an Amazon forest fire, the only medical effect they have is in suffocating you & raising your blood pressure.

On point 5 I have taken Alison in the DT to task on her sugary, heroes NHS in today’s rather weak article, including her assertion that we should be proud of our trust in the UK in politicians and scientists. Is she edging to the dark side?

She’s a communist!

Yes, she’s gone noticeably weak since things started getting a bit ‘hot’ this winter. Ross Clark too. Didn’t even bother reading that article when I saw the title.

Point 7. In my case, mask wearing induces panic attacks.

In this context

thelightpaper.co.uk for November 2020 front page highlights the “Government’s ‘Disastrous Policies’ Breaking Human Rights Laws

Inside Health on R4 reported yday about the increased use of home oxygen monitors. Another ludicrous measure by the NHS.

One person who was told by the doctor to use one admitted he did not get the proper instructions from his doctor how to use it and what the readings mean until 2 days after!
One health official said they dished out 1600 and they need monitoring. Anyone with a saturation of between 92-94% for a period of at least 1h is deemed at risk and advice to go to hospital to receive oxygen.
The above mentioned patient was positive, had low oxygen for several days which mad him physical unwell and was put on increasing oxygen for a week. No mention if any other drugs given. C leads to inflammation of the cells, and you can pump as much oxygen into a person until they blow up, if the blood is unable to convert it, due to the inflammation, there is no point!

The article on masks by Roger Koops is essential reading (link just above The Great Barrington Declaration headline). An organic chemistry PhD who knows about PPE when it really is a matter of life or death. Can be saved as a pdf too.

So Brendan states we recognise Covid is real and dangerous. But how dangerous considering we know the demographics of those affected – is it really more dangerous than a bad influenza year? Surely his argument for lockdowns should also be on the disproportionate response to this respiratory virus. I also note he had to mention, we have always acknowledged the seriousness….this is like making your excuses for what you are about to state, similar to stating you are not a racist before putting forward a balanced argument on uncontrolled migration. Lastly, it is disappointing to see him use the term anti vaxxer in such a derogatory manner, which we know includes anyone who question the safety of the current vaccine regime – and all this endorsed by this site hmmm. Not impressed.

Yep, me too.
I refused to sign something which was arguing for a lifting of restrictions in my industry because it included lines about recognising the seriousness of the disease and the need for some restrictions.
I will not play the game.

just because something exists and is dangerous doesn’t mean everyone should be stripped of their rights

cars are dangerous

Life is dangerous. If you don’t want danger then you have to stop living.

That’s exactly what the sheeples have done.

” In fact, the infection rate began to slowdown in the week after Christmas, as the graph from the ZOE Covid Symptom Study App shows.”

true – but the driver of the infection rate, the R value had actually peaked on the 17th December

the below is calculated directly from the Zoe data – Xmas has nothing to do with the R rate and neither do the restrictions (which we saw clearly in the March spike and decline)

So, another ‘self-limiting’ phenomenon – just like the March/April one. But they won’t have it.

yes, a seasonal cycle – endemic now – nothing to do but get on with our lives

Britain maintains the worst Covid death rate in the world.
A sane person might conclude that Lockdowns, masks and vaccines don’t work.

The UK (and the USA) was never and still isn’t suited and able to pull off a mitigation strategy.
Unlike Germany, it didn’t have tens of thousands of tracers already in place and its economy and society is just not made for that.
Like any other island or remote border (FIN, N) country, it could have pulled off a suppression strategy, but only in the beginning and with continued strict border closures and hotel qurantines, for good.
Now, it’s far too late and impossible to switch to that.
It and the USA would have done far, far better on every metric including Covid deaths, if it had stuck to keeping schools, the NHS and all businesses open, people unmasked and focussed on helping the
vulnerable and care homes instead.
Now, it (and the USA) is on the road to disaster, bankrupcy and Liberal Fascism.

I pointed out to my Dad, whose not been sceptical or zealot (one of the masses I guess) at new year by phone, that nothing the government had done has worked if we’re in this mess now.

He paused and said, that’s right.

There are always more people thinking like this that don’t venture onto the internet like us. I know many more that think none of this works, they just don’t use forums or even the internet.

I wonder how many of these hospital admissions are down to the stay-at-home types who only venture out of their sanitised bubbles once a week for shopping?

I’ve been working cheek by jowl with the general public since the start of this whole fiasco, no social distancing, no masks, handling filthy money every day. My immune system is being challenged and exercised daily, and as such I’ve barely had a tickle in my throat (I also take Vit D and zinc supplements to give me a boost).

On what planet to the bedwetters belive that drowning themselves in hand gel and jumping out of each others’ way will save them?

Me too Scotty and on top of that I was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma ( a type of blood cancer) in early June. I have carried on regardless through chemo (indeed that is the only place where I have HAD to wear a mask), luckily for me I am a very positive person and have worked, shopped, exercised, seen my 86 year old mother every Sunday and eaten very much as normal. I am out the other side, and so is my mother still without a mask or shielding. Out of all the cancers, blood cancers have the worst prognosis for Cv19 as its all about the immune system. Admittedly I do not consider myself old at 56 but nor am I a spring chicken. By all accounts I still should be dead due to my ignoring of all the rules.

I’m very glad to hear you’re out the other side. My very best wishes to you for a happy and healthy future.

Fantastic! A great example of what positive thinking can do – something those effing modellers can’t incorporate into their calculations – and I very much hope that you’ll carry on being normal!

Live long and prosper, my heroine!

You’re an inspiration. Thanks for sharing.

Unfortunately many people have been brainwashed and now believe that a piece of cloth over their face, dousing themselves with some weird smelling gunk and jumping 10 feet in the air will save them. There is no rational thought process, they just took it as an article of faith.

Exactly. I’ve just seen this on gab which I thought I might use the next time someone harasses me over face rags:

Masks increase mortality because breathing through them nebulizes aerosols into smaller ones which bypass mucosal immunity & reach all the way into the alveoli, leading to acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).

Great stuff. I will memorise that to quote back at anyone who has a go at me with muzzles.

Am in my late 70’s now. Remember mum telling me to make sure to blow my nose so as to prevent re-infection, and a dirty hanky was FORBIDDEN
She must be turning in her grave now to see all those sheep wearing a bit of dirty cloth strapped to their faces !!!!!!!!

Agree. Why they have not resurrected “catch it, bin it, kill it” has been a mystery.

On planet MSM.

I suppose the currently held belief that its the Health Services and prescription medicines are the only defence against pestilence. Many have no inkling about things like the immune system.

A poster called ‘sam club’ posted this last night on the other thread, on the subject of face covering exemptions:

‘…here even if [you] have an exemption they say you have to wear a ‘face shield’…’

I replied there but I’m not sure Sam will see it – I know that I don’t get notifications of posts/replies, so I’m assuming Sam doesn’t either. If they don’t see the reply over there then hopefully they’ll see it here, and this might well help others, too:

Thank you, Sam.

Here we go again. Firstly, you can tell these ignorant araeholes you do NOT ‘have to wear’ a face shield/visor. Second, point the bone idle tossers to this:

‘Face visors or shields

A face visor or shield may be worn in addition to a face covering but not instead of one. This is because face visors or shields do not adequately cover the nose and mouth.’

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own#how-to-wear-a-face-covering

I thought that droplets and aerosoles saw the face shield and either hurled themselves onto it, or swerved around, like a mask wearer swerves around me.

Talking to a non mask wearing, lanyard wearing barrista in a coffee shop yesterday.
“The pandemic should’ve brought out the best in people, instead it’s brought out the worst.”

I thought droplets and aerosols saw the face shield and either hurled themselves onto it, or swerved around.

A Spanish lawyer’s wisdom indeed.

S/he is not wrong there. It’s so true and that was what was being discussed here yesterday.

Sums it up.
It’s what Lord Russell of Liverpool, talking about Hoess and Eichmann, called ‘the appalling and disastrous effect of totalitarianism on men’s minds’.

I feel like Neil Diamond – Solitary Man we’ll all be in solitary soon.

Don’t be so downbeat. To steal a ‘follow the science’ analogy; the level of fear and intimidation peaked just before the government bottled mandatory vaccinations. The curve is a steady downward slope from here. It’s time to slap on some skis and enjoy the ride.

Sorry Always Look on the Bright Side of Life

There’s something you’ve forgotten

And that’s to laugh and smile and dance and sing

When you’re feeling in the dumps

Don’t be silly chumps

Just purse your lips and whistle,

Oh wait that’s banned too.

Nice. There ain’t gonna be no gulags, or forced injections. I therefore laugh in the face of anything other than this that can be thrown our way.

I honestly think one of the quickest ways of ending this bollocks would be for Monty Python to do a comeback classic and ridicule these pathetic pricks.

Monsieur Jean-san, Monsieur ‘An-cock, I fart in your general direction…

Two quick observations from the ” front line ” . This week the office team have been ringing round telling the elderly that their vaccination appointment is postponed so there does seem to be supply problems but I am told it is only for a few days. Secondly yes a lot of ITU covid cases are younger than 70 , but most fall into the extremely vulnerable or vulnerable categories . They are not random 55 year olds I assure you. Indeed once those with a BMI over 40 ( morbidly obese ) are offered the vaccine there will be a dramatic reduction in ITU burden.

Front line workers vaccinated this week (in my area at least) so we might see that burden lifted sooner rather than later

What are your views on the jab PT? (I have recently politely declined but am not overly invested in the decision).

For those who are vulnerable by age eg over 70 or underlying significant illness eg COPD, cystic fibrosis etc etc then weighing up the risks I say yes. Obviously not for someone who is moribund , as Norway has demonstrated .

Age alone shouldn’t be the criterion (from this fit 70-y-o who will NOT be having the experimental vaccine, at least not till the trials are completed in Jan 2023 and reported on.

I’m with you here. NEVER had a vax since the Smallpox as a child / baby , so don’t know if I have any alergies etc. NEVER been floored by flu like illness er…. have to think… EVER. So what’s the point ???

From a BBC online ‘fear’ piece this morning about Mae, a 23y.o. in intensive care in Scotland – seems the jab didn’t protect them – did it even bring on the Covid?
“Mae and her parents Jaramias and Sonia, from Cumbernauld, North Lanarkshire, tested positive for Covid within days of being vaccinated for their jobs.”

Nobody, it seems, wants to consider the obvious; that these vaccines are harmful to a not-inconsiderable number of people.

This seems very true. If our death rate post vaccination mirrors that of Norway, then it must be close to 4000 deaths by now, surely? Why aren’t we being told?

There’s a considerable spike in deaths ~3000 from the ONS for the first week in January. Coincidence?

Hancock: Thank you for your question, and what a marvellous question it is. To ensure the community at large remain as up to date as possible, my conspirators at the ONS collate all of the data and package it into one nice tidy number which reflects the all cause mortality for that particular day. Under the Data Protection Act I’m afraid I’m not at liberty to discuss individual aspects of data, thus remains you’re not at any liberty at all.

I seek no sympathy whatsoever, but sister’s husband’s mother’s cleaner’s tortoise, Stanley, has sadly succumbed to this dreadful unprecedented disease by opening his mouth to grasp a seemingly precious piece of lettuce – none more so precious as his tragically taken life.

So let’s not let his life be without merit or message, and please keep your mouth firmly shut, so we can begin the seriously hard task ahead, and build back better.

Let’s ask not what we could have done for Stanley, but what Stanley has done for us.

Excellent!

Joseph Goebbels would have kept it secret, so why wouldn’t his Students?

Shows yet again the perverse nature of lockdowns too particularly lockdowns for extended periods. Perhaps people in the high BMI category are safer from the virus staying home but all the while due to inactivity they become more vulnerable so when they do catch it is much worse.

BTW I do genuinely believe that the original intention was for the first lockdown to be quite short but then mission creep set in.

Secondhand from someone who works at our local hospital: medical staff are furious because at the end of each jabbing session, ‘spare’ doses of snake oil are being given to administrative staff because they are conveniently there, doing nothing, whereas medical staff are always busy and never get into the queue.

Good way to reduce the bloated numbers of admin staff in the NHS?

I had a suspicion they’d be the fatties.

One of the most hilarious developments of this whole sorry episode is the sight of a Corbynista rag like the Guardian obsequiously doing the bidding of a Boris Johnson government.

More proof if you need it that these people are attracted to authoritarianism like flies are to shit.

they support Boris because his position has moved to theirs

I don’t suppose their salaries being subsidised by Billy-boy Gates has anything to do with it either.

I’ve always been mystified that the most rabid lockdownistas also had a hatred of Johnson and the Tories that’s verging on the pathological and insane.

They should have been fighting this lockdown tooth and nail, Instead they have been the most rabid cheerleaders.

Most odd.

Is the reason so few people in ICUs are over 80 because they have all been bullied into signing DNRs or because doctors have done triage and decided that actually (contrary to the hysteria) with finite resources it is better to save the life of a 60 year old than a 90 year old?

They’re all jumped up Lord Sumptions!

The latter.

I know that patients 90 plus may not get the treatment younger people would get because their bodies are too frail to withstand the treatment, e.g. a major operation involving a general anaesthetic. I would imagine similar considerations would apply to ICU care.

In my (not personal) experience I’ve seen that Doctors are more than willing to help anyone provided they are reasonably healthy. How many hip replacements has Her Majesty had? And my healthy wife got hers fast tracked only last year !!! All they required was for her Vitamin D level to be boosted before the OPP’ 150 %+++ Successful and counting!

“Theresa May: PM’s foreign aid cut damaged UK’s moral leadership, says predecessor”
I think we abandoned our moral leadership when we stripped everyone of their rights, put them under house arrest and started cancelling elections

I think we abandoned it decades before that!

Nice to see “us” come out swinging with the articles today being a lot more combative. I’d like us to be less equivocal though. There is no need to feel bruised by anything “they” say. It is almost all untrue or deliberately misconstrued anyway – so doesn’t need lining up against sceptic views for comparison. ‘There Was No Christmas Surge’ should’ve been the lead and should be rammed down bedwetters throats for a full 24 hrs until tomorrow’s lead story; ‘Restrictions Aren’t Working’ is rammed down their throats for the following 24 hrs. ‘The Vaccine Isn’t Doing Anything’ next.

And so on.

Things that should be banned if health is more important than human rights

1 – abortions
2 – smoking
3 – drinking
4 – going out of the house
5 – staying in the house
6 – using power tools without having had the appropriate training
7 – rugby
8 – meeting old people
9 – driving
10 – being happy and safe (leads to risk compensation)

Eating, you could choke. Walking in a wood, a branch could fall on you. Flying, the plane could crash, crossing the road, cycling, having a shower, you could slip … that is how ridiculous the precautionary principle is. Everyone sits on a plane, 40000 feet in the air, a hand of fate or serious mechanical issue and that’s your lot, but hey, make sure you wear that mask to save a life.

In other words we should just stop existing.

I’m amazed that the lockdownistas have not been advocating mass hara-kiri to stop the spread of the virus.

Yep to stop us going extinct, we should all kill ourselves.

That’s what I’ve told those who profess to care for the environment. They always go silent when I talk of mass suicides.

Horse riding, motorcycling, driving, skiing, eating nuts, sex, biscuits, cycling on the public highway….

Cor I read that too quick. I suddenly thought what the hell are sex biscuits, and more importantly where can I get some?

Cows, the most dangerous animal in Britain.

1. Being alive. It’s 100% fatal in the long run.

The biggest cause of death is birth.

The closest I have ever come to death (twice) was giving birth. So that needs to be outlawed too.

Err… Is that another Conspiracy Theory ???

Definitely horse riding

Seeking a Friend for the End of the World (@GabrielUtasi) Tweeted: There is no pandemic. I’ve fixed my chart to show “DEATHS” compared to “CASES” as well as the view compared to the POPULATION. “Quotation marks” aren’t an accident.

#plandemic
#nomasks
#GraphicDesign #data #facts https://t.co/20Pj9FfZD5
https://twitter.com/GabrielUtasi/status/1351618993908559872?s=20

Ivor Cummins retweeted these graphs which, for me, put the whole fiasco into perspective.

Here’s the charts

Thanks PD. I still haven’t learned how to post a photo to this page. Pathetic, isn’t it?

This is the little button on my iPhone screen that I press to attach pics from my phones photo library

How does the ‘deaths to cases’ figure square with an IFR of 0.27%?

Not my graphs BTL, but here’s the info the OP used to create the charts.
Of course, we all know that the number of ‘cases’ is highly skewed

ENITRE It always looks better when you spell correctly or people assume the analysis matches the spelling.

Chasing gold at the end of a rainbow.

They tried that in the US, look what happened, then they had a “free & fair” election, look what happened, the people showed their upset at the “free & fair” election, look what’s happening, they need the army to enforce democracy, even there they are weeding out any suspect dissenting soldiers voices.

Q. Why is it the biggest exporter of democracy across the world needs the biggest security force to protect the “democratically” elected leader?

Can we impeach the government?

Wow, check this YouGov description out. Looks like someone knows what’s going on!

Sweden all cause mortality 2020 compared to 5 year average

dropped to -1000 before March spike. March spike put it to +3500.

This winter got it to +5000

Trivial in the scheme of things

There is a massive problem in using 2015-2019 as a baseline for comparison. It was a period of remarkably low mortality.

Although that emphasizes how unexceptional was 2020.

I was on here late last night and was viciously bullied by a troll.

I’ll say this once again. MY OPINIONS ARE NOT PERSONAL.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS PLANNED.

OKAY? OKAY?

IS THAT OKAY??

THAT’S MY OPINION.

AND IN THAT RESPECT I AM ON THE SAME PAGE AS TOBY YOUNG.

SO MAYBE IT’S NOT ME (AND TOBY) WHO ARE THE GOVERNMENT AGENTS HERE.

PERSONALLY I DOUBT THAT THERE ARE ANY. BUT THAT’S JUST ME!

THAT’S JUST MY OPINION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM SICK TO THE BACK TEETH OF THE NASTY SNIDE CYNICAL, SMUG BASTARDS WHO COME ON HERE.

Toby and your camp believe that:

1-Doris and the SAGE short for Morons, have just made mistake after mistake. And here we are.

2-They are not listening to any science whatsoever, but hysterical models and exaggerated data fraud.

3-It is a political act contrived to make Doris the ‘saviour of the nation’ and enshrine the ‘scientific’ technocracy as the new church.

Most of us would agree with the above. However , the LONGER this fraud goes on, the more likely that there is something else going on….because none of this, NONE, makes any bloody sense.

here is a mistake that cost 45 million lives

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign

politicians, advisors and shitty scientists are quite capable of making catastrophic judgements whilst believing they are doing the right thing

Yes, they have a long history of failure and fraud, including the Warmtard fraud. I noticed that the Warmtards are keen LD fascists….must be something in the data fraud that excites their intolerance….

I don’t believe that this was planned, either, or not by human agency. .I believe that it’s an outbreak of literally diabolical evil, conducted by men and women who have, knowingly or unknowingly, sold themselves to the Devil.
Many people will find that absurd. We all have our views.
I do have to say, though, that the sheer unreason of it all is highly conducive to conspiracy theory. But, as Primo Levi was told on arrival in Auschwit z, Hier ist kein warum : there is no ‘why’ here.

I think I agree. These people are warped. They think they are doing the right thing, whether it’s killing Jews, or destroying society, mental health and human connection. Their messianic zeal is what keeps them going. I don’t think they recognise the evil within them. They truly believe they are righteous.

this is why they are so dangerous.

This from, Cities of The Red Night by William Burroughs 1981..” So Jerry was a carrier of the illness. He did not die of it directly. Winkler, who was Thirty years older died in a few days. Well… there are those who think a selective pestilence is the most humane solution to overpopulation and the attendant impasses of pollution, inflation, and exhaustion of natural resources . A plague that kills the old and leaves the young, minus a reasonable percentage…one might be tempted to let such an epidemic run its course even if one had the power to stop it”

Sorry Annie totally agree. as I was upvoting my dog hit my phone and I hit the down vote. So I agree but poppy the cocker spaniel does not.

Maybe it’s time for walkies!

Anyway, I am willing to bet the Poppy has more common sense than Piffle.

I tend towards your view and Toby’s John with some James Delingpole thrown in. This was primarily c0ckup and panic which has been jumped on by some bad actors whose interests converged eg China and big tech.

Keep posting and ignore the trolls. Most people are not on the extreme end of the argument but those that are tend to be more vocal. I have to say that the one thing I would ask the conspiracy theorists is do they think whoever decided to invite David Icke to speak at the initial protests did our cause a favour or a disservice? If ever there was a case of black propaganda imho that was it!

To the people who feel the need to aggressively troll John I would say that to the rest of us your refusal to brook any nuance or dissent from your position is very reminiscent of the behaviour of the lockdown cultists.

Agreed
need to be sceptical of everything
Even this great reset /plandemic stuff

Just to say. I have learned a lot over the months about communication while being here.

I do have personal issues. I live alone – I’ve always lived alone. I always wanted to be married but had terrible confidence problems regarding the opposite sex despite doing well at school.

I’m now in middle age and have worked from home for ten years. My only social contacts are my parents. I don’t have any friends these days outside of my immediate family.

I’ve had two mental breakdowns in my life and was “sectioned” on both occasions. Happily not since 2005. I regard myself as essentially healthy. I had hypnotherapy for a number of years and never take any form of medication. I have made use of the Samaritans as well on numerous occasions, though have never been suicidal.

But it’s clear though to me from my experiences here that I still find communications difficult. I can get triggered and lash out. People can take offence. But I have also learned not to bear grudges and know not to take things personally – though that I find difficult to achieve.

I think because of the way I communicate on here and because some here are deeply cynical and suspicious of others that I have been singled out for suspicion.

It is deeply upsetting.

I know that I’m a genuine person anyway! And I know I have just as much right to comment here as anyone else. And as Brendan O’Neill would say, “You have a right to be offended”.

That’s free speech for you!

Have you tried linking in with one of the KBF local groups dotted around the country? Could be a decent source of interaction/socialisation for you..

Thanks for sharing. You are not alone. And you have your parents, a job, your health….so you are blessed.

I lash out too. And am made to regret it. I get angry too quickly.

Keep posting, JohnP. Differing viewpoints are the oxygen of debate. If a conversation consists entirely of agreements, you know it’s being conducted by Dufflepuds.

Keep posting, John. Your viewpoint is as valid as anybody else’s. I too got very upset being called a liar for expressing truly held beliefs and stating facts about my close circle of family. Some people don’t like it if your experience doesn’t exactly mirror theirs so assume you must be lying.
We need to keep stating our opinion as it is as valid as anybody else’s. Mine, very briefly is this:
1) Covid-19 does exist. I know people who’ve had it and it can be very unpleasant.
2) I don’t know anyone who has been seriously ill or died of it but I do believe it is fatal for some vulnerable people.
3) Notwithstanding 1 & 2 I believe our government’s overreaction has been unforgivable. We never closed the country down before for a bad flu season and we shouldn’t have done so this time. March may have been forgivable due to fear of the unknown, but once we knew what we were dealing with we should have reversed course rapidly.
4) I don’t hold with conspiracy theories. At first I said there was no conspiracy at all. Now, however, I believe there is a massive arse covering conspiracy going on. They’ve painted themselves and us into such a tight corner that they only now have the vaccine to get them out. I won’t be taking the vaccine until trials are complete in 2023. If it doesn’t work or a lot of people won’t take it then what’s next?
5) Politicians are self serving and nest liners – they just can’t help themselves, so the nice little sidelines for cronies of test and trace, PPE and vaccine profits are just too hard to resist but not the main driver behind this.

Those are my thoughts. Anyone is allowed to disagree with them.

I’ve had people tell me (not here, happily) that I didn’t refuse chemotherapy 13 years ago, that the oncologist didn’t tell me that I would die without it, and that she refused to give me statistics on the impact of chemotherapy on mortality for my type of cancer. I suppose they’d also tell me that I’m not alive to tell the tale 13 years later. The experience certainly didn’t help my confidence in medical advice. Feel free to disagree. I’m used to it.

Stay strong John, there are many, many more people struggling with the same problems as you have than you could ever imagine. Keep posting, keep believing

Dear John, early on in my career in hospitality, working shifts, I learned that writing messages, especially whilst upset, can backfire terribly.
When speaking the other side can hear in your voice anger, sarcasm irony, fear, a question. This is not possible in writing.
Later I had a manager who liked to e-mail. Quite often I wrote a reply whilst upset. I did not press send. An hour later I deleted it, unread, and wrote a polite, to the point answer.
I think on here messages get misunderstood. People reply without much consideration.
I saw the thread you talked about and gave the reply to you a thumbs down.
Yes, sometimes your comments irk me too, but I appreciate them, too, as quite often it leads to a lively discussion.
I, too, live alone with a VERY limited social life, am unable to work and coming on here has kept me sane. It is difficult if you get a negative response from people you think are like you.
But even if we all want the same end goal, we are all different and we need to be, question opinions and respect others’ theories.
Not being able to exchange yourself with people apart from this site, not being able to talk about negative replies you get, will have an effect and I am glad that you have reached out to the Samaritans.
Best wishes.

Personally, I’m beyond the incompetence theory thus disagree.

But I’ll die for you to be able to spout whatever you wish to spout, so my kids and everyone else’s, can spout whatever they choose to too.

I don’t have enough digits to count the number of times my mum and sister have been sectioned – both hands – so I’m well aware of courage to even disclose such an experience (without a hint of condescension).

If you ever find yourself in rural southern Denmark or Greenwich, let’s agree to disagree over a beverage of your choice. I’m buying.

Oldie but goldie. Coincidence that there’s a growing sliver of deaths attributed to covid19 in 4Q20, precisely compensating for the rather surprising observation that deaths from all other causes falls by precisely that same amount, hence no excess deaths?

Frankly, that’s so unlikely that it can be dismissed. Why?

A population with restricted access to the NHS for up to 9mo, during which time there was a very large fall in referrals & completed consultant episodes for illnesses that lead to mortality, isn’t one where “fewer deaths” is a reasonable expectation.
Most people would say if asked “that’ll lead to increased deaths, if anything”. Mr Occam would probably pop his head round the door & wink.

A more plausible explanation, consistent with other datasets, is that London reached herd immunity during the spring pandemic, hence no excess deaths.

As to deaths attributed to covid19, that only requires that PCR mass testing yields a substantial fraction of positive results which are false. It’s noteworthy that in the Swansea study in late summer, somewhere between 80-90% of PCR positives turned out, upon retesting, to have been false. But I’m bored with pointing this out, so suit yourselves!

Dr Mike Yeadon.

Imagine if PCR tested for AIDS and gave the same ludicrous inaccuracy in results. (It was never designed for CV to start with). And all these dead would now be ‘AIDS’, we would be in AIDS-hysteria, with demands not to bend over in communal showers, wear a diaper around your pants, refrain from the bath houses etc. etc.

IIRC It was originally designed to detect HIV, but couldn’t diagnose AIDS only that the virus was there.

No scientific proof exists that LDs are effective. Zero. Pure Politics is all this is.

I told colleagues (they are mostly LD fascists, full on retard, believe evthg), that even if they disagreed with my analysis of the underlying Data Fraud (they should know better not to disagree), that the intent of Doris and the ‘Scientists’ will be clear by March . Now they are messaging no end to the LDs for a variety of poor reasons.

Factually flu deaths collapse in the 2nd week of April. Any LD extension beyond Easter , or to reimpose an LD (incl tiers) before school starts in September makes the ‘conspiracy’ theories ever more prescient and probable.

There is no reason, not even today for LDs. None. Certainly not past Easter. They have probably killed 50.000 at home in the UK, and destroyed our socio-cultural-economy.

For the anonymous trolls:

“Off with her head!” the Queen shouted at the top of her voice. Nobody moved.

“Who cares for you?” said Alice, (she had grown to her full size by this time.) “You’re nothing but a pack of cards!”

“You’re nothing but a pack of cards!”

At this the whole pack rose up into the air, and came flying down upon her: she gave a little scream, half of fright and half of anger, and tried to beat them off, and found herself lying on the bank, with her head in the lap of her sister, who was gently brushing away some dead leaves that had fluttered down from the trees upon her face.

“Wake up, Alice dear!” said her sister; “Why, what a long sleep you’ve had!”

“Oh, I’ve had such a curious dream!” said Alice, and she told her sister, as well as she could remember them, all these strange Adventures of hers that you have just been reading about; and when she had finished, her sister kissed her, and said, “It was a curious dream, dear, certainly: but now run in to your tea; it’s getting late.”

Alice in Wonderland (excerpt) Lewis Carroll

Great post!

I’m starting to think that lockdown is all and Life was a dream.
I liked the dream.

I have to deal myself out of the pack here & say I never liked the hand I had in the old normal but it was better than this & what’s to come in a future reshuffle.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

Rudyard Kipling

Did you know that according to the BBC, Kipling was Black-Muslim? As was Chaucer. I was told this watching an advert.

The most powerful anti-lockdown argument is one which the Lockdown Sceptics site occasionally mentions, but never emphasises: cheap and effective treatments for covid exist. I am thinking in particular of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycine and zinc, or these days, ivermectin. I urge everyone to look up the many studies showing the efficacy of these treatments. The point is, they are mainly effective in the early stages of the disease. G.P. s should be able to prescribe HCQ for example to symptomatic patients who have tested positive because it gets rid of the virus before damage has occurred to the lungs. They should also be able to prescribe AZM which gets rid of the cytokine storm once the virus has done its damage and the body is fighting back. Use of vitamins C and D and zinc for the immune system should also be encouraged. If covid is all that’s wrong with them there should be no need for patients under sixty to fill up hospitals as today’s post reports; once again, G.P. s should be able to take care of them (not in the Al Pacino sense) in the pre-hospital stage. Unfortunately, official UK government advice is to stay at home, drink plenty of water and dose yourself with paracetamol. Then when you find you can’t breathe you ring 999 in a panic. Why does the UK government insist on its website that there is no treatment for covid? Why does their website note that HCQ is not licensed for use with covid? Ivermectin seems even more effective, but in spring HCQ was all there was and you would think a government that cared about saving lives would be willing to give anything a go. In France, thanks to Professor Didier Raoult, we are well-informed about the shenanigans of the French government in removing HCQ from chemists’ shelves. It looks as though something similar might have happened and still be happening in Britain. If so, then it’s a scandal which should be investigated. When lockdown sceptics have the chance to put their case in mainstream media, TREATMENT, TREATMENT, TREATMENT is the point they should be hammering home. There, that’s my rant for today.

All studies for the treatment of the scandemic are here. https://c19ivermectin.com/
Ivermectin by far the best then HCQ (early stage only). Vit C&D also very effective. Remdesivir that the BBC made a song and dance about least effective but most expensive.

Law for vaccines and nurses

https://www.facebook.com/paulanthonyeurope/videos/10159366109687755

As a mother my heart breaks….
The effect on everyone, but especially the young, from lack of social interaction is profound.
I am sure every household when asked will describe the negative impact of lockdowns.
Why do we allow this?
The negative far outweighs any perceived benefit.
How do we make people listen???

A few days ago I posted that soon there would be widespread calls to give the developing world access to the vaccines and that the West would be expected to pay for it.

It started a couple of days ago with WHO claiming the world will be on the “brink of a catastrophe moral moral failure if the West continues to hog supplies”.

Today on R4 prior to the 8am news Britain was being criticised for ‘hoarding’ the vaccine, so far the argument is about production and distribution, who pays will no doubt comes next.
Who benefits ? Bill & Melinda.

Blacks don’t want it apparently. 70% against the vaxx.
Isn’t the Vaxx mostly made by Whites, racist anyway?
Why would non-Whites be interested?
White supremacism etc. Vaxx is just another form of racist KKK premised control.
Shouldn’t we all be ashamed of the white-made Vaxx?
Says Science.

I have no wish to be associated with this comment, thank you.

I’m donating my vaccine to Africa.

But that probably makes me a racist murderer.

The award in the No Faeces Sherlock goes to the Brainwashing Britain Cult with
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55716860

It is never worth reading or listening to Peston. The Daily Mail piece quoted the scam of the government daily death cert stats. Are the frightener’s on Toby and his writers? I smell a toning down of the message.

The Deep State worldwide has killed a large number of those opposed to the LDs, Vaxx, or the general messaging. Some have ended up in prison, or insane asylums. They are now scrubbing the net of anti LD, anti Vaxx sites, posts. I bet Toby et al have been threatened a few times. Hopefully their address is completely unknown, hidden.

Hmmm yes, I thought it was just me having a bad day, but I think you have a point.

Peston is a moron. Too self-important to read around the subject

a toning down of the message.

Depressing isn’t it.

The first pandemic ever (well we’re not actually having a pandemic) where rather than millions of people actually dying from a virus, millions have been told to just pretend they have it.

the government told me to pretend I had it. I did. Now I’m better – and I’m immune

I’m asymptomatic

I’ve had asymptomatic Covid and am now suffering from asymptomatic death, but acting as though I were alive.

Ah but they want you to pretend you’ve got it permanently. I can’t believe that sentence I’ve written is actually true but it is.

BRILLIANT.

Me and the wife reckon that we had Covid 18; does that count?

and then pretend the new vaccine cured it, brilliant!

Are we allowed to pretend we had the vaccine to cure the pretend illness?

Makes me wonder if the people in the daily corpse count have been told to act as if they’re dead.

Could this explain Johnson’s obsession with ‘the science’ and why the UK has to look beleaguered before the miracle cure and the sales pitch. Why the population are the trials to move it on apace.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/over-100-million-cash-boost-to-manufacture-millions-of-doses-of-covid-19-vaccine

Re the pack of cards. The hierarchy of king and queen is based on the monarchy system. A king was always “higher” than a queen. The wife of a king is queen but the husband of a queen is not king but consort. Even in the Narnia stories where the Pevensey’s rule there’s a High King.

In some games the queen rules. In some games aces high in some low. And what about poor old jack with his tache, always looked like he was in village people. Should he not be higher? But then in some games jacks are wild? The stupidity of people is astonishing, if it bothers you just call a jack 11, a queen 12 and a king 13. Do we start on fucking chess next or are most of the sjw’s too thick to play?

What They Said about Lockdowns before 2020 https://www.aier.org/article/what-they-said-about-lockdowns-before-2020/

Great article. I wonder how strange it must be for them to be now arguing so strongly against their own previously held position. There’s some good quotes in there:

From John M. Barry now a strong propronent for masking wrote against the use of masks in healthy people in 2009: “Evidence from the SARS outbreak suggests that most health care workers infected themselves while removing protective equipment.”

From John Hopkins epidemiologists in 2006 lead author Thomas Inglesby:
“experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted.”

I found a video from Fox news with Thomas Inglesby arguing in April 2020 for earlier and stronger lockdown https://video.foxnews.com/v/6148879839001#sp=show-clips

The Thomas Inglesby 2006 paper https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.556.2672&rep=rep1&type=pdf is a spooky in way since it is a point by point demolition of pretty much all the measures we are now taking against Coronavirus. Quarantine, social distance, school closures, masks were all deemed ineffective and/or counterproductive (for influenza anyway)… Maybe he’ll change his mind back to his original position and write the same paper again (in 2026?) with respect to Coronavirus…

Even stranger, after changing their minds once, none appear to be keen to change it back.

Perhaps we’ve got this all wrong and ‘build back better’ refers to them. In particular, the fucking minds they appear to be out of.

Israel National News published an article 18th Jan 2020 – the Helsinki Committee to declare Pfizer performing unauthorised human experiment on humans in Israel. It seems the contract allows Pfizer to collect data. The people are not being told they are taking part in trials. The initial trials were carried out on under 55s with no underlying conditions. As far as I am aware the findings for stage 2 have not been published as yet, with stage 3 findings due to be published 2020.
Are UK humans being told that they are part of these trials and have they given their consent.
No wonder eminent physicians are calling for this experimental vaccine roll out to be halted.
I can’t quite work out how to upload the article.

The irony that the next Nuremberg style trials would be in Israel.

The irony of Israel permitting medical experiments on Jews.

Anti-Lockdown Protests and Police State:

Amsterdam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6n-uywHXf4&list=PLJWhoC1u4KmCzAnyvPW7PtivuSbruLdRJ&index=137

Prague
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCkfpWLskwc&list=PLJWhoC1u4KmCzAnyvPW7PtivuSbruLdRJ&index=80

London
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSCDXFbMMuc&list=PLJWhoC1u4KmCzAnyvPW7PtivuSbruLdRJ&index=132

I don’t know how this government expects lockdown to go on past April 2nd. Mine and most of my peers mental health is in the gutter. I was a perfectly healthy 29 year old prior to all this shit. Lockdown may be a technocratics wet dream but it’s not possible.

They want us to pretend we have covid, we should pretend we are in lockdown.

the old USSR joke – they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work

I break the rules all the time Dan but the things I love to do I literally cannot do. I never thought these would be taken away from me.

I know how you feel. Try to find good things that they can’t take away, until the time comes to take back the first things.

I just got back into the warm and dry after a very wet walk with the dog. The walk was goid, the dog is good ( most of the time), and the warm and dry is very good.

I don’t think it’s ‘technocrats’ per se. But there is good evidence that it’s a sub-set of the ‘scientific’ community who have been elevated to positions for which they are unqualified in terms of influence on decision making.

There seems to be an excess of individuals with sociopathic or autistic character traits.

Sadly I think it’s because there are limits to human empathy, and as much as the Gov, Charities, Royals etc like to bang on about “mental health”, “mindfulness” and “being kind to yourself” etc, it’s impossible for those who are largely content in life to really put themselves in the shoes of someone who is feeling such a level of despair that they no longer feel their life is worth living.
I’ve been there, and it was clear that Doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists, counsellors etc – they tried to understand and many thought they did – but only through the lens that my thinking was inherently faulty and I had a sickness that could be cured. You are wrong and they just need to convince you they’re right.
It’s absolute bs that if you’re feeling suicidal you should talk to someone about it – because most people won’t care. Not even your friends and family. Some will actually seek to avoid you. I found one friend who understood, a Police Officer.
The same as it’s a lie that the world is better with you in it, or there is always people that care etc. Some people have no one, usually through no fault of their own. The best advice I have given myself is just to live a life that is authentic and filled with joy – not easy when most of it is illegal, but the feelings will pass I promise. What you endure now will make you stronger.

I’m sorry to hear what you’ve went through. I must say this whole episode has highlighted the lack of empathy to mental health that I was not aware of previously. Like most things in life it’s just virtue signalling, people feign concern but don’t really care.

I try to maximise the things that bring joy but this government has taken everything that brings joy. That said I have no doubt I still want to live but it is not nearly as fulfilling at pre March 2020.

Very sorry to hear this and I know how you feel because my mental health has taken a severe battering due to this lockdown and what made it worse was the realisation that no one actually cares. If anything I had the impression that I was an eyesore for certain people because I was intruding on their privileged lives.

If anything this shit show has demonstrated that any concerns about mental health was only paying lip service and any progress in attitudes towards mental health and disability was only skin deep. When push came to shove, it has regressed back to the Stone Age.

Take a firm grasp on your sanity and resist! There’s nothing wrong with your mind if you are a rational sceptic, which obviously you are. Stick with it, stick with us.

Thanks Annie. I appreciate it I am holding out hope for March/ April bringing change at least with the population not necessarily the government.

There is a question that has been playing on my mind for about 9 months now… WHERE THE F IS ANYONE CATCHING THIS?! According the official stats I am supposed to believe that 627,686 caught this particular lurgy in the last two weeks in England.
I don’t give a flying f about the “rules” but since the symptomatic are isolating and there is NOWHERE TO GO where you’d risk a slight chance of getting it I’d say chances of catching it are minuscule. I don’t even know where you could go to try to catch it!
The vulnerable are all supposed to be shielding and where there are “risks” to the public this is supposedly all mitigated by the dance of ppe/masks/gel/testing/barcodes. So how is this possible??
I can sort of empathise with why the Gov/media/public are trying to blame the very small number of us who aren’t following the “rules” because seemingly according to their flawed logic what other reason is there?! But it makes no difference if we refuse to follow one-way walking systems or drive to the Peak District when this has zero effect on transmission.
I don’t want to blame anyone for their illnesses but I think we’re at the point now where people need to start taking a bit more PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. No one knows for certain where they pick up a cold bug but you often have a pretty good idea don’t you?
What else is there…just the notion that it spreads through mysterious miasma in the air and any of us are at risk all the time. In which case can we just carry on as we were before please because we cannot continue furlough for ever (this is when it’ll all stop people, when Rishi finally stops paying out for economic stagnancy).

I have no information at all but something tells me that hospitals are a big part of the merry go round.

LD idiots say ‘flu has disappeared’. You ask ‘how’? The LD Idiots say ‘diapers, distancing, LDs stupid’. You ask, ‘fascinating, how then are 600K people contracting CV these past few days and many dying from it?’ LD Idiots answer ‘well stupid, the science says we do not LD hard enough and too many are not following the rules….’

You can’t argue with stupid. LD idiots view is that CV is magical, flies, lives forever, can travel thousands of miles, stay hidden, does not die in the natural environment, immune to vitamins and sunlight, and shares no attributes with the normal flu at all…..

I thought, someone can correct me if I’m wrong, that most of the actual infections are occurring in hospitals and care homes. They’re also testing the most people more than once which will be pushing the case numbers up. And all of the case numbers will include asymptomatics.

Also we’re in the Winter so how many of the covid cases are actually flu cos that’s vanished?

To me it should be if you really feel the need to be protected then fine be allowed that protection and everyone else get on with living as normal.

You don’t need correcting.

Hospitals are always focuses for infection – by definition.

But this is made worse by the artificial inflation of numbers by PCR testing, which keeps the uninfected locked in with those who are actually infected – and thus spreads infection.

I agree. Surely, almost all of the people who died/ill ‘with’ Covid were following all the lockdown restrictions – masks, social distancing, hand-washing, isolating etc., 99% of the time! It’s perfectly clear the restrictions don’t work.

Case in point here. “We have been inside for most of 2020” and they didn’t mix with others on the Christmas Day ‘amnesty’. Yet one of these 96 year old (!) twins has just died of covid, of course. The paper doesn’t ask how that could be, but wants us to believe that this woman was prevented from achieving immortality by the failure to give her a vaccine sooner.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9166749/Vaccine-letter-arrived-two-days-late-save-one-Britains-oldest-twins.html

I’ve heard of several people catching the plague recently, and they have caught it is all sorts of situations.
First one I heard of, was an 80 year friend who fell, went to hospital, got transferred to a rehabilitation centre, where she caught it. Recovered without any problems.
Next, the man who cleared my mother’s house a couple of weeks ago said that he and several of his family caught it in Dec. Caught via the nursing home where one of the family worked.
My neighbour’s son caught it a couple of weeks ago. Got it from a building site when he did a site visit. Load of Poles who had just come back from Christmas hols were working there.
Couple of people from the allotment have got it – one works at a care home, the other at a ‘home for naughty boys’ (what are they called now?). Since both are almost morbidly obese, they might easily become statistics.
Then there is a succession of ‘cases’ at the transport depot where my son works. Earliest ones related to a drunken night out in London in Nov by a couple of managers who spread the plague over the next week.
Not sure where the current crop comes from. Several were self isolating after their kids got contacted, though that wont be the case now. Another involved another idiot manager who, despite having symptoms and waiting for a test result (which came back +ve) went ahead and did a series of 1 to 1 interviews. Resulted in lots of self isolation, but actually very little if any transmission.

Basically, there are lots of people out there, going about their daily work, because there is no alternative. And they are the ones catching it. But unless the government wants to stop everything dead, this will continue.

See the problem here is ‘it’.

How do we know they have ‘it’ or summink else?
How come they don’t have any of ‘it’? (the shitshow ringmasters, not the people you know of)
If lockdown is gonna kill way more peeps than the peeps that die of ‘it’, why on God’s green are we doing it?

We need to stop doing it, and doing ‘it’.

RKI in Germany since the weekend reported a sharp drop of + tests. Down from 30+k to 11+k.
The NDR TV station’s website suggested a blip in reporting from local government. Usually the RKI issued a disclaimer on their dashboard when this happened. Not this time. We will see tomorrow, as Thursdays are usually the highest numbers.
The MSM will just not believe a sudden drop (although I will admit, it seems unlikely) is a real possibility.

WHERE THE F IS ANYONE CATCHING THIS

Maybe the Guardian includes a free covid with every copy.

Dishi don’t pay for nuffin’
Dishi’s load is safe
Us mugs pay for everyfing
Our sky rockets are agape.

A quick glance of the headline should convince those who are still asleep that this farce has long ceased to be about the virus. Sure you could have said that in March 2020 but I quickly saw that this was never about the virus and everything about control.

And that letter from that student is very spot on – the lives of the young have been scarified on the altar of the old and the NHS. Mr Bart and I have discussed this a number of times and noticed that the majority of the lockdownistas and zombies wearing their masks outdoors have been in the boomer demographic – those who have not been financially and/or psychologically affected by the lockdown and restrictions

Government policies have consistently been made by the middle class and middle aged for the middle class and middle aged, with no thought to the future economic burden on the young. All this, despite the minute likelihood of any of us becoming seriously ill with Covid.

Yet again, this is so true. Anyone who isn’t middle class and middle aged has been consigned to the scrapheap. I was lucky that I survived redundancy because had I not, Mr Bart and I would find ourselves struggling to pay our mortgage and my mental health would have gone down the toilet further. Of course the lockdownistas will bleat that there’s a pandemic going on and I shouldn’t complain. If that’s what they think then maybe they should pay my mortgage for me.

Mr Bart made a suggestion once that all those in favour of lockdowns should be taxed twice or 100% of their income to help out those who have been affected by their championing of this ruinous policy. I’m up for it. Maybe that will wake them up once and for all.

I was thinking it was to get rid of the middle class, the small and medium business, have more state dependent citizens who are easier to control

I did think of that and yet its the middle classes in Islington, Hampstead, Chiswick and Richmond who seem to be doing A-OK.

But then again, I suspect the lot who live in the places I mentioned are not in SMEs but rather work in the civil service, media….

Yes, already in establishment jobs

They’re part of the establishment not kulaks.

If Boris or Sunak want a way out they just have to impose a severe pay restraint (50% cut?) on the Public sector until all restrictions are repealed. They’d be clamouring for it – they don’t really care about old people

And I’ve always advocated that MPs’ salaries should be severely cut (down to minimum wage), no claiming of expenses and no pension when they leave.

See how they’ll like that.

What people do they care about?

I am middle aged and middle class in a secure job yet am utterly baffled as to why others like me would want to go along with this – if not for their own sake then for the sake of their children or friends

Indeed. We are late middle aged and still earning (though much reduced) but the whole thing hurts like hell. I am desperate for some freedom. I want to see my elder son for mor than the total 3 hours I’ve spent in his company for the last 12 months. I want to experience some live music and theatre. I want to dine with friends. I want to see the local children back in school before they lose all purpose and direction. I want my younger son to be able to work and socialise. None of these losses are worth bearing even if lockdown worked and it manifestly does not.

Maybe you can talk some sense to my parents and other boomers I know who are still in favour of this shit show. Trying to reason with them has been futile – its like trying to get blood out of a stone.

I don’t think it’s totally an age thing, it seems that 30 year old mums are the worst for jumping into traffic to get out of your infection zone. On the other hand they could think I’m scared…
My 85+ Dad is going about and noticing the same.

It’s true that its nothing to do with age. I’m with Annie that its zombies we’re dealing with no longer people.

‘and other boomers’

I find I’m just as likely to be trying to persuade 20-30 year olds.

Ditto. Trying to persuade my millenial colleagues that they’re more likely to die from being run over by a moving vehicle or from dodgy DIY at home than Covid has fallen on deaf ears.

You and millions of others. I’m afraid rants based on class and other broad categories are nether here not there.

I’d actually say that such selectivity just plays into the hands of the perpetrators

Something tells me, if Mr Bart’s suggestion should ever come to fruition, it would vanish as fast as you can say “we’re all in this together”.

Indeed. And they would call for the end of lockdowns faster than you can say “Covid”

Please sign the petition to end all restrictions once the vulnerable have been vaccinated.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564347
So far only 6300 signatures. We need 100,000….

Lets be honest, appealing to your abusers to stop abusing you has never been a winning strategy.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using every avenue

There are a few MPs with some principles, and more than a few who would get worried if public opinion looked to be going against them

I may be naive or overly optimistic, but I think parliament still does have some power, should it choose to exercise it

In any democracy mob rule counts, the populous are sheep & flock together, sadly the present consensus is bullying people into lockdown is the peoples voice.

Not voice. Bleat.

Just signed it, with my real name and postcode. Now at 7145 – up nearly 850 votes in 2 hours!

Suppose the vulnerable do not wish to be vaccinated? Are you going to accuse them of blocking an end to restrictions?

Sir Patrick Vallance’s explanation of why the UK has recommended 12 weeks between the two doses of the Pfizer vaccine (Sky interview). The Israelis reckon at Day 28 after one dose the efficacy might be as low as 33% – from the huge real-time experiment they are conduction on their population. No so according to Sir Patrick, it is indeed what the MHRA have guesstimated – high 80% because you have to exclude the first 10 days after getting the first dose because you might get it within those 10 days or already have it before you were vaccinated. That then gets you from 33% to high 80%. Is there a shred of evidence for this assertion, and did this man ever actually do any science?

I am sure he is capable of doing science if he finds it politically or personally convenient, and equally capable of ignoring science when it suits

Correct. He sounded more like a politician than a scientist that’s for sure.

We no longer have politicians only advisors. If we have a parliament of 600+ MP’s we hear from about 10. The rest sit at home on zoom earning full pay and doing nothing. They do not represent the people who elected them they just sit back and watch unelected advisors talking unchallenged science.

I think he has done some science as he was in the same college as Yeadon. Though not of the same class, I hasten to add.

It’s said he’s particularly good at the science of shares accumulation.

Of late a lot has been said about him. Mostly language of colour.

Simon Dolan just ‘Gabbed’ this:

Supermarkets ‘at risk of discriminating against disabled people’ over face masks
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/supermarkets/supermarkets-at-risk-of-discriminating-against-disabled-people-over-face-masks/652257.article

‘The Equality and Human Rights Commission has written to supermarket CEOs warning they could be breaking the law, while a disability rights organisation has published a template letter for compensation claims.’

Template letter?Where?
Give one to chaos and I hope he gets the full £9000.

Its worth clicking that link to see the ‘bedwetter’ comment at the end of that article. Brilliant.

Why are Sage (the science), running the show, appears to be because they’ve told Johnson that vaccine manufacturing and economic recovery from the COVID -19 pandemic will come from them. The sales pitch will be the UK recovering from such a devastating time, because of the science.

Trucker Carson something worrying going on in the US https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M0l7xH5zbIg&feature=share

There’s been a fair few posts on Twitter about something happening in the US today. No one is saying what though, something to do with the inauguration.

Precis, please?

Why can’t UK do the same? We imported the Chinese lockdown,why not do this?

https://twitter.com/waukema/status/1351522379567149057

 Interesting: APNews: “China does not include people who test positive but have no symptoms in its count.”

Might upset the nice little story that we’re all going to die and lockdown forever is the only thing to do.

But yes I agree, I think if you removed the asymptomatic counts the cases would drop.

On the radio today the nhs advert saying you can be ill without symptoms and can spread the virus! So i thought you could not tell lies or disinformation on an advert? There is no scientific proof for this so why is it allowed. If we put up an advert saying there is no scientific proof that masks work would that be shown?

This has been known for months now…we are being manipulated

The Spectators Evening Blend’s e mail has a banner across the top offering me three months free subscription

The banner contains a large coronavirus clock face. The hands of the clock are two large hypodermic needles. The ‘hands’ are set at five to midnight and presumably the ‘hands’ contain the vaccine

Below the banner is a caricature of Isobel Hardman with a huge smile on her face

This lockdown stuff is obviously highly amusing at the Quisling Spectator

My family and I face our second year of detention without trial

I’ll forego their offer, in fact I’d rather poo my pants

That’s one of the hardest things for me – the little “in” jokes and cartoon mask wearers as if this is all some sort of jolly holiday.

For them it is

Had a bit of a ding dong with my 71yo mother in law yesterday. She used to be one of my best friends but her bedwetting and my scepticism has driven a bit of a wedge between us.

She rang to see how we were and the subject turned to vaccinations. I support their decision to have the vaccine as she has asthma and her husband is morbidly obese and has had several heart attacks.

She asked if we would have the vaccine (we are in our early-mid 50s and in pretty good health) and I said probably not, maybe in 10 years when there was more data and our risk from Covid might tip the risk assessment balance in favour of the vaccine.

She completely flipped out at me for being irresponsible and risking our health and we should take the vaccine “to be safe”. I pointed out that in our age group we had more chance of dying in a car crash and so logically if I want to be safe I would also never get in car ever again. The phone call terminated pretty soon after that.

This whole thing just illustrates how this whole fiasco has destroyed relationships. She thinks we are irresponsible lunatics who don’t care about old people and are cavalier about our health. We think they are wilfully ignorant of the facts and have p1ssed away 800 years of improving rights and freedoms nevermind the economy and the well-being of their own grandchildren. How are we ever to respect or even like each other again?

“She thinks we are irresponsible lunatics who don’t care about old people and are cavalier about our health.”

Well, why is her husband morbidly obese then?

Yeah good question. Why has he done nothing about his obesity then?

So much easier to force others to take the jab than doing any uncomfortable work improving one’s health. The hypocrisy is staggering.

Please don’t erect an alternative channel o health virtue-signalling!

Agree. They’d rather others do the work than they do it themselves.

Plus if she and hubby get vaccinated, whats the problem for her?

The pro social argument is completely false.

It is based on the idea that the vaccines reduce transmission and death. We don’t know this. What the pro social argument amounts to is the idea that we should be willing to take part in a global drug experiment. That’s it.

Its insanity squared.

“How are we ever to respect or even like each other again?” That’s the question – we can hope that lockdown will pass, and this debacle will end, but we see people differently now.We’ve seen a side to people we didn’t know was there, and this has polarised some of us, thankfully not all.

You’re right. The social damage has been immense.

Your situation rings bells – a close member of my family was suggesting only yesterday that I should take the snake oil – for exactly the same reasons.

However, I share your reservations about the serious diminution of the Testing regime. But actually those reservations are increased for me because of my vulnerabilities.

This sums up the conversations I have had with many people around me the last few months. Nevertheless, I will stand my ground and say NO. Well done to you Ms Dragon for standing yours and not complying with this horse shit.

I feel your pain as I am in exactly the same situation. This scamdemic has put me firmly in the position as black sheep of the family. I have three siblings and they all look down their nose at their conspiracy ridden sister, I realise that I am not in the same socioeconomic bracket as them but it doesn’t make me less of a person. If it wasn’t for my son, and of course people on here, I would feel so alone in my quest for this madness to end. I’m not sure things will ever be the same between me and my family, maybe it will come more from me because I find lockdown zealots dispicable and uncaring tyrants.

Meanwhile Britain maintains the worst Covid death rate in the world. Tuesday’s new daily record marked a sharp 30% rise on the 1,243 announced on the same day last week and is almost double the number of victims from a fortnight ago, when there were 860.

The media can’t have it both ways either lockdowns work and the death toll isn’t high or lockdowns don’t work as the death toll is the worst we’ve ever seen ever apparently.

Either way change strategy.

The official position is unfalsifiable. Whatever happens, they are right. If the numbers (coronavirus related deaths, hospitalisations, case, the R number, whatever) go down, it proves that lockdowns, social distancing and face masks work; if the numbers go up, it proves the need for more draconian restrictions/enforcement. Regardless of the facts, they will, and do, claim they are right. Perhaps, a journalist might ask them: what evidence would prove to them that lockdowns, face masks and social distancing do not work?

We have comparisons now though to show that there is very little evidence (if any) that masks, lockdown, social distancing work. Eventually, people will ask the question is it worth it? Wheres the evidence to say it’s worth it?

I stand by it that if the narrative doesn’t change at the 12 month mark people will wake up.

I think that as weather warms up in Apri and May, we may well reach a critical point.

The burden of proof is on those who push unorthodox interventions – masks, distancing, lockdowns, mass testing

And they (pretend to) meet the burden by presenting pseudoscience.

“ Lockdown measures could last “beyond Easter” despite the rollout of the Covid vaccine after the deadliest day on record saw 1,610 new victims.”

1610 covid deaths I guess on Monday? We must be close to every death being covid, at least reported on Monday/Tuesday. I don’t believe we have the data to unpick what’s going on here, but personally I’m highly sceptical of these numbers.

The numbers are almost self-evidently a distortion, given that all other causes of mortality are well down on previous years – it is utterly implausible that this could reflect a real reduction in how fatal flu, cancer etc are

This graphic from UK Column shows the age corrected mortality data since 1971. It is a steadily improving picture which then levels off in the last few years. There is a tiny and unexceptional upward spike (I refuse to use ‘upticks’) in the last few years. Where is the pandemic?

The link works but I can’t get it to display correctly. Anyone understand what the problem is?

I can see the chart by clicking on ‘comment image’

What happened around 2009 -10 to stop the stright line fall ?

all-cause mortality is the only number of interest. so far there has been no marker of any kind of ‘pandemic’ or change in the normal patterns. I suspect that may begin to change in the coming years, – but despite what we will be told, it won’t be due to any killer plague stalking the planet

96 year-old dies of Covid. Headline news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-55730409

Personally I don’t want to be around at 96. Extreme age and the frailty which comes with it are a curse, not a blessing. Bronchitis was called the old mans friend with good reason!

The death of a 96yo is rightly a sad and poignant moment for the family. She is gone from this world and every death is significant but her twin survived which is great for the family and shows Covid isn’t a death sentence!

Someone I know lost her 15 yo daughter to cardiac arrest following a severe asthma attack last week. She had to switch her life support off a week ago today. That is a tragedy. A 96yo dying of a chest infection is not.

To be honest, the death of an elderly, frail person with advanced dementia can only be felt as a relief all round. The loss of the person occurred long ago.

So true, Annie. I posted on the website a few days ago that my mother died 18 months ago at 95, after five years bedridden (hospital induced) and suffering from morphine (hospital) induced dementia. I effectively had five years in which to mourn her death. When it happened I felt the greatest sense of relief that anyone can imagine, primarily because her last five years had been physical and mental torment for her.

One of my beloved dogs died two weeks after my mother. It was very unexpected and he was still active and healthy to that point, and not old for his breed. Some people might think it heartless, but I was far more upset about his death than my mother’s.

A lot has to do with the contemporary obsession with hyperbole.

So we have overuse of words like ‘tradgedy’. You will have your own lists. Mine include ‘epic’ and ‘legendary’. But even ‘disaster’ gets over-used to the point of meaninglessness.

How the hell is that headline news??? What about all the other people who are dying needlessly because of these satanic government politics!

Exactly I totally agree

I don’t know the details but I suspect he died of being 96.

The government are about to make another collosal error- if they do not ease restrictions for people who have been vaccinated, telling people they are still not safe etc., then we will never break this circle of fear.
Breaking this mindset of fear is going to be a massive task- the media have been terrifying everyone for 9 months now- obviously they don’t want it to end- they have never had so many clicks on their websites.

Interesting how the narrative that only 12.1% in England have antibodies (from yesterday’s ONS survey) seems to have been spun, even by Sir Patrick Vallance, as the justification for why everyone needs to take the experimental ‘vaccine’. If antibodies fade after around 3 months, and given that the ONS has been sampling for antibodies since May/June, unless exactly the same people are sampled and have been exposed to the virus three times, then surely the starting point for an estimate of the number of people who have some form of immunity is a summation of the serology studies from now, three and six months ago (12.1% + 5.5% + 7.4%), that is, 25%. Then, assuming no under 18s have been sampled (likely most have been exposed to the virus), few students (majority exposed), few over 80s and those shielding (very few exposed), there must surely already be herd immunity in the population with the exception of those in the first 4 groups on the vaccination list. This will be particularly true in cities. Even Neil Ferguson seems to have understood that.

Also, anti-bodies can be undetected but T Cell immunity can be strong.

So yeah, this is looking good without 6 month vaccination rounds for the rest of our lives.

Good points, although so obvious you’d hardly think they needed to be stated – but in today’s environment they surely do.

A further inference: if 25% of people have had the antibodies, then it follows that just about everyone has been in contact with the disease.

Maybe we should be literally muzzled https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/20/talking-can-spread-covid-as-much-as-coughing-says-research

They’ve been banging on that one for months. Stuff them.
Equally, it must be true that coughing is no more likely to spread the bug than talking.

Now, now Annie. To much logic applied!

From now on, no talking outside your home. Whatsapp only. Dip your phone in disinfectant before and after use. If you’ve had contact with a covid “case” – no talking allowed for 10 days. In fact, don’t ever talk again, you may be an asymptomatic longest Covid case.

There, sorted.

Don’t be surprised if some research comes out where it shows that the virus still can spread virtually.

Then SAGE will call for the banning of Zoom and MS Teams.

Carless talk costs lives

or even careless – whoops

You were right the first time!

Especially in Spain lol

Cashless Society The Great Reset.
More to confuse the Incompetence Theorists.

“OVER 2m Scots have been refused the right to pay with notes and coins during the pandemic, threatening the viability of the cash network.

“Natalie Ceeney, chairman of the Access to Cash Review has now warned that cashless payments which are “creeping into the wider economy” could now prevent people from accessing everyday services such as buying food or paying for electricity.”

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19020913.end-cash-2m-scots-denied-right-use-money-pandemic/?ref=twtrec

Have a think where a cashless society is using ‘social credits’ to administer freedom to a population. Then perhaps research how the transition from cash to cash was done. It is interesting to learn.

Please tell me who these “incompetence theorists” are. I doubt more than a few people who post here believe that the govts actions are due solely to incompetence

They are blatantly incompetent, but at the heart of it there is cowardice, dishonesty, political expediency, lust for power

To me, saying that they are “incompetent” implies they are acting in good faith – I don’t think anyone here believes that

It feels like a straw man argument to me

conspiracy realists more like

Yep, and they can also tax at source “for your own good”. Say if you buy 2 bottles of wine, this may mean you have a drink problem so that second bottle of wine will cost £100.

Useful graph from UK Column showing there is no pandemic.

More on this here also – https://dr-no.co.uk/2021/01/13/early-assessment-of-2020-mortality/

https://www.axios.com/andy-slavitt-biden-white-house-face-masks-covid-24590f6e-b956-422b-a178-316756b85a3e.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100 Andy Slavitt is a new member of Biden’s C-19 team. Taking up this position he has cut ties with Swizz manufacturer of masks Livinguard which says that these masks repel virus and bacteria,
“Before he was involved in the company with this commercial promotion podcast
 “Slavitt said during one episode“Why I like the Livinguard masks and why I wear them is ‘cuz they actually deactivate coronavirus thanks to their incredible patented technology that’s been shown to mitigate the spread of microorganisms like bacteria and viruses.”

I’m sure that I’ve heard this correctly on TR a few minutes ago that Tesco now say “YOU MUST SHOP ALONE UNLESS YOU ARE A CARER”.
I assume that the rest of the supermarkets will follow suit.
Well, Tesco: “F××k you”.
I will give my custom to whatever businesses that refuse to follow such discriminatory stupidity.

My Aldi now has a sign board saying something like “one shopper one trolley – if possible “, but no actual hassle from staff. A larger “please wear a face covering” one also appeared recently, but nothing has actually changed. I think (hope) they are ‘meeting their responsibilities” without actually bothering folk, much like Wetherspoons did at the start.

I along with the vast majority of people would go along with that.
I don’t mind being asked to do things but I will not be heckered and told what I can do and what I can’t do.

Shop alone, together – a shopping flash mob

Early Assessment of 2020 Mortality

https://dr-no.co.uk/2021/01/13/early-assessment-of-2020-mortality/

The coronavirus infection and death statistics remind me of the statistics for tractor production under the five year plans

Both humorous and sinister at the same time

I’ve just had a telephone conversation with the duty manager at the town’s branch of Tesco’s. Apparently, head office had told them there had been a complaint made and that I needed to be contacted. Not sure why as, as far as I was concerned my mask query was already satisfactorily resolved.

Anyway, credit where it is due, he took note of my concerns and said if I feel anxious or threatened in any way, I should ask to speak to the manager. I queried why suddenly, even with the government not changing the rules, they were ramping up the ‘challenging’, especially as there are so few of us going maskless. He said he didn’t know but that there was a change of policy from the higher-ups. It seems to me that the big supermarkets are getting a real kicking over this and that is why they are being more reasonable.

Oh dear, and then I scroll down and read FP’s post

That doesn’t surprise me. I read on Twitter that the EHRC are now breathing down on the necks of supermarkets due to the harassment of people who can’t wear masks. This is following Disability Rights UK helping a customer claim a substantial compensation for denying her service because she was exempt.

They’re being put under the spotlight and they’re finding it hot and uncomfortable there.

And so they should be put under a spotlight for acting the way they have in the last few weeks. It will have made a lot of vulnerable people in terms of mental health feel less able to go and get their shopping.

Makes me so angry, seems to be a constant state this week.

Agree. That’s why I’ve been actively boycotting shopping, museum visits. Especially those that over egg the pudding.

Anything that makes retailers pay for pandering to these Stone Age attitudes should be welcome. They have to realise that bigotry doesn’t pay.

What I don’t understand is why the ramping up, especially as there are so few of us and the government’s guidance hadn’t changed. The supermarkets were obviously being expected to do the government’s dirty work.

The supermarkets are stupid that’s why. They should have fought this and go “not in our name.” The government will have no choice but to back down.

What’s also odd is that they have access to the best lawyers. Why none of them told the CEOs that to target and harass the exempt will lead to nothing but heartache, court cases, loss of reputation and boycotts is bizarre.

Hahahahah we don’t get many wins in the sceptic side. I’m going to revel in this!

Exactly. This shows that any improved attitudes towards mental health and disabilities was only skin deep. The more we expose the despicable attitudes that have emerged due to all this, the better.

I ventured to Tescos yesterday for the first time since Christmas and had no issues whatsoever. There was a member of staff in a high vis vest sitting at the entrance but she never even looked at me. I think where I am in Belfast they might be a little afraid to challenge anyone lol.

We should actually just split society in 2. Supermarkets, music festivals, pubs and schools for the reckless (like us) and dedicated “safe” supermarkets for the rest. Then we can all live like we want to live

The problem with that, just like using the Nightingale hospitals for covid only, is that you would be able to see what was (not) happening. And that would never do…

as mentioned yesterday, was asked about mask at Aldi for first time. No problem when i said i was exempt. guy that asked me confirmed that there had been directive from on high so it looks like the supermarkets have been got at

“ The distance between rhetoric and action is so large as to be bizarre. If you took the Johnson government at their word you would assume that Britain was on its way toward some sort of libertarian experiment in free market economics. Yet if you look at what the Government is doing it is far closer to what the Chavez and then Maduro government did to Venezuela .”

A good piece, highlighting some of the issues arising from the gap between the.attitudes the members of the ruling “Conservative” Party hierarchy profess to hold (conservative with libertarian inclinations), because they want to present them to their potential voters as being theirs, and the ideologies they actually hold to in practice – modern utopian radicalism, and authoritarian statism.

The latter are quintessentially the attitudes of the political left – society and humanity can be made better by experts making them do what’s right, for the greater good, and they achieve this by using state power to impose right thinking and right behaviour upon society. That’s why their government, in practice, comes to resemble other governments in which the left has taken power.

This is the result of the long triumph of the left through the C20th – the attitudes of the left are now those of the political and social elite, from MPs through businessmen and wealthy capitalists to academics and media editors and journalists.

There are some who cling to an outdated view of the left/right distinction as being purely about wealth ownership and distribution. This was one of the major issues during the C20th, but was largely settled in the late C20th and has not been the main issue of contention for most since the 1990s at least. The Blairite left realised that they could take and hold power by downplaying that aspect and recruiting leftist billionaires and middle classes to vote for them, instead of forcing them to choose between their wealth and their political principles.

Can we stick to the knitting, rather than indulge in mickey- mouse political and economic analysis for Dummies?

“ Can we stick to the knitting “

No, for the reasons set out to you in detail on many previous occasions, without response.

In addition, on this, Rick, you are quite simply a hypocrite, more than happy to repeatedly assert here your personal political fantasies about some kind of “far right” driving the coronapanic, while insisting that anybody saying something you dislike about politics is “riding a personal hobby horse”.

“ mickey- mouse political and economic analysis for Dummies? “

I understand that you have a need to cling to your outdated fantasy of what makes for goodies and baddies in the world, safely keeping you among the former, but unless you wish to remain politically irrelevant in the modern world, you will eventually have to let go of your death grip on the notion of the eternal struggle between Good Socialists versus Evil Thatcherism.

The point I made here merely enlarged on and addressed the same issues as the piece referenced, published above the line on this site.

Perhaps we could just stay neutral and just say that the UK is heading for a much more state-controlled economy.

The difference with Venezuela is that in the UK the government is in partnership with the large corporate firms – a sitation described by Mussolini as fascism.

I don’t think our situation has much to do with left vs right. I think it has to do with technocracy and control (in the service of the state and corporatocracy) vs the freedom and autonomy of the common people.

What is often today referred to as ‘the left’ (climate change, genderism, critical race theory) is in fact an ideological construct of the dollar-centric financial system, which has been developed in the last 30 years to serve that system of dollar hegemony and to replace politics based on class.

Outstanding essay by Denis Rancourt on the subject here:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332182416_GEO-ECONOMICS_AND_GEO-POLITICS_DRIVE_SUCCESSIVE_ERAS_OF_PREDATORY_GLOBALIZATION_AND_SOCIAL_ENGINEERING_Historical_emergence_of_climate_change_gender_equity_and_anti-racism_as_State_doctrines

My point, too. Not so much about ‘staying neutral’, but about focusing on the immediate subject rather than political grand- standing, given that – obviously- the issues have political and constitutional implications – tho’ not in the simplistic ‘left/right’ reductive sense – which is just a distraction.

You claim “neutrality”, but your position is not neutral in any substantive sense.

“ I don’t think our situation has much to do with left vs right. I think it has to do with technocracy and control (in the service of the state and corporatocracy) vs the freedom and autonomy of the common people. “

Clearly I disagree and I’ve set out my reasons. This absolutely is an issue of left v right (representing utopian radicalism versus conservatism), and the problem is the complete triumph of the former, whether it’s mediated by state or by corporate power.

In the end, though, it’s about who are your enemies and what policies are you resisting. The political enemies of liberty today are primarily addressable approximately as the Corbynite and Blairite Labour Party groups, and the Blairite “Conservative” Party groups. This is obviously not apparent if you accept an analysis designed to frame the Corbynites as “good guys” (and of course “the only real left”).

The only way out is to restore a traditionalist conservatism that is inherently suspicious of utopian radicalism. That is what we lost during the C20th.

“ What is often today referred to as ‘the left’ (climate change, genderism, critical race theory) is in fact an ideological construct of the dollar-centric financial system, which has been developed in the last 30 years to serve that system of dollar hegemony and to replace politics based on class .”

This is incorrect, because it is based upon the false idea I’ve often addressed here, that “left” is only defined by basically Marxist notions of ownership and management of capital. In fact that is a small subset of the issues involved, and not a particularly important one for the past couple of decades at least. There was a left and a right before Marx came along, and those concepts remain long after his politics were thoroughly discredited and the few aspects of his thinking that are of lasting use extracted.

The point is we have bigger fish to fry at the moment that squabbling over red team blue team
They are both as woke as eachother

If people aren’t clear about the issues and who is on which team, how are they to know whom to support, and what policies?

“ They are both as woke as each other “

Exactly my point, but “both” is not left and right, but Labour left and “Conservative” left. Wokery is quintessentially a set of dogmas of the utopianists and radicals (ie the left) who want to “remake” society and humanity “better”, and always has been. That’s pretty much how it is defined.

You have assumed a massive ( and massively inaccurate) amount about my views that illustrates your own fixations rather than anything else. Which perfectly illustrates my point about sticking to the knitting – i.e the substance here rather than indulging in a hobby-horse parade of simplistic assumptions and assertions.

No, I’ve made perfectly reasonable judgements about your views based on your various assertions here. Such judgements are inherently rebuttable, but you’d need to actually address them rather than just deny them. (Not that such a discussion would be particularly useful).

Regardless, the main issues remain your inappropriate insistence on “sticking to the knitting” (when it comes to views you dislike but not views you approve of) and your resort to abuse rather than substantive debate on a topic you are simply wrong on.

Both of which I’ve, unlike you, addressed substantively, repeatedly.

This kind of ad hominem attack should have no place here. It would be good if you could address the points raised if you disagree.

What’s ‘ad hominem’? It’s just an objection irrelevant political grand- standing.

I assume you have access to an internet search engine?
In simple terms it’s fairer to play the ball than the man. Or ignore him

Am I experiencing deja vu, or have you said that exact phrase to Mark before?

How odd. I remember the 1990s triumphalism – “end of history”/”Communism/Socialism is dead”.
It’s an odd “Communist” state of affairs in which people returning to Britain from abroad may not merely have to be quarantined in hotels but have to pay for the privilege. Possibly Tory cronyism with certain hotel chains. But Communism? No.
I suspect capitalism has run out of road and this is all an attempt to rescue it, not implement The Communist Manifesto .

Neither I nor the original piece suggested that we live in a “communist” country.

The original piece merely highlighted the similarity of methods between the lockdowners and the communist regimes we are familiar with, and implied likely similarity of outcomes.

All I did was to explain why that similarity exists.

Obsessing about communism per se is a bit like the obsessing by Rick H and those like him, who are unable to move on from their obsession with Thatcher’s defeat of their preference for state redistribution of wealth and ownership of asserts. It’s focussing on a subset of the issues, and an out of date one at that.

No, you said the attitudes of the left were driving this and there was some kind of triumph of the left in the 20th century. Actually I detect plenty of right-wing authoritarianism in what is going on, and Boris Johnson is a pretty unlikely left-winger of any description.

“Leftist” and “communist” are not congruent.

If a man who has demonstrated his beliefs in state provision of collective healthcare, state control of every aspect of behaviour pursuant to utopian ideas of the greater good, the continuation of radical utopian rebuilding of society and culture via mass immigration and via “politically correct” controls on behaviour and speech, funded by unlimited state deficit spending, is not left wing, then it’s hard to see what he would have to do to qualify as such. Go full 1970s and renationalise the commanding heights of the economy perhaps?

Look at his actions, not his words – he is a professional liar who has risen to the top in a system that strongly selects for such. It’s silly to be deceived by his inherited social elite status into thinking that somehow precludes his being “left wing”. Many of the most effective leftists have been such.

Good afternoon Mark

It’s interesting that you mention Venezuela. My wife, although Portuguese grew up in Caracas and has many times over the past 10 months, talked about some similarities to Britain. She’s not very political but quite astute as to human motivation and cynical (a trait we share thankfully!).

Anyway, for what its worth, she mentions the fact that the Chavista’s became persona non-grata (having been in positions of power at one point). She also says that Venezuela was always a well-educated society ( remaining in higher education for years and years whilst living at home) and people generally never needed to look for work abroad. These days however that’s no longer the case, and apparently well-qualified people (lawyers etc…) find themselves in Argentina, Brazil etc… often doing menial jobs.

Hope you don’t mind me mentioning them, as I thought it might be of interest.

Kindest regards

Simon

Hello Simon, good afternoon, back at you : -)

In fairness, I didn’t mention Venezuela myself except in quoting the piece linked above the line,which does so. What kinds of things does your wife see as being similarities?

Sorry Mark, my mistake and the danger of trying to scroll this site on a phone!

To be honest, her main feelings centre around how Venezuela’s high level of patriotism – not necessarily based on tangible reality but more around myths that people believe or perhaps that arise from living in the past. One might think of ‘Keep Calm & Carry On’ and how the reality we are living in now is quite different from how we might like to see ourselves.

For example, it seems inconceivable that Brits would need to move abroad for economic reasons (I guess it has sort of happened when one thinks of Auwidersen Pet but it wasn’t really nationwide) and her point is that Venezuelan’s used to think that too. They got used to being superior to some of their disadvantaged South American neighbours, but the tables have now turned, and they find the shoe is on the other foot.

Best regards

Simon

https://tt.omni.se/fler-kvinnor-med-misstankta-biverkningar/a/dlLw41

Sweden.C-19 vaccinations 17th Jan 147000 doses. 15 deaths in relation to vaccinations but not considered to be casual due to underlying morbidity. Mostly elderly but a few in the 70s. 136 reported side effects and 50 serious, allergic and facial paralysis, which has been described before. There are some new, not earlier reported side effects but at the moment not any evidence that they are connected to the vaccine as not seen in the EU reporting system but keeping a watch on these. 77 % side effects female.

Interesting that neighbouring Norway have had much more deaths after vaccinations (although from underlying morbidity) than Sweden. Could it be a batch problem with the vaccines? Recently a batch of 300 000 of moderna vaccine was recalled in California dure to many allergic reactions. In the hacked e mails Pfizer and EMA there was discussion from EMA that they had concerns about reliability of production line of the vaccine. Let us hope in this lottery that UK got the right batch.

What if the batch is the whole production line?

The silence from the UK is very troubling to me.

These countries seem much more transparent.

Me too

I was wondering about this, is it luck that there are apparently no adverse effects in the UK, are they not being reported, are people having a placebo or the standard flu jab.

“Interesting that neighbouring Norway have had much more deaths after vaccinations (although from underlying morbidity) than Sweden.”

Perhaps the lack of extreme lockdown measures in Sweden, has allowed the population to build up immunity to the vaccine.

“Meanwhile Britain maintains the worst Covid death rate in the world.”

Well – of course one response is that this is vastly overstated because of the complete shambles of PCR defined data.

But, of course, the fanatics can’t have it both ways – if the summation is true, then government policy has failed catastrophically, and the privations of masks and lockdown are proven as utterly pointless.

The cause of excess deaths in the UK was the clearing out of the hospitals – not covid.

That certainly contributed, but it wasn’ t the entirety

I may sound like a broken record here, but if most things are closed until Easter, how are the 3 million excluded from support going to cope, as well as those who have now lost their jobs, I am hearing of more every week.

I had to stop work from March 16th and started work again on July 13th, I then had to take November off, the part of December, now January, now we are told until April, then possibly more. I am not entitled to one penny in support. This is a total catastrophe. How many people reading this could have coped financially? most people I talk to have 1-2 months savings and thats it.

All the jobs advertised are very low wage, paying a fraction of what I normally earn, getting lots of applications, I am eeking a living doing some work virtually that just about covers my basic bills, and I worked during the summer so I am lucky, very lucky, many others will loose their homes, savings, possesions, and have to draw pensions years earlier than they have planned. It is horrific.

I am horrified at what is going on, I dont think people (apart from us) can contemplate the total and utter disaster that is coming, there is going to be mass unemployment, deaths from cancers etc will go through the roof, and then there is mental health, which was never properly treated at the best of times. The austerity years will be looked back on as the good old days.

I dont understand how anyone, any decent person can leave 3 million with no help during this, where people around me have claimed SEISS when their businesses were barely affected and worked leaving them with a major windfall. If this goes on until April I cannot imagine the state the country will be in.

This is horrible.

I think that the pain right now is indefensible. However, if you have any debt of significance, then the banks will surely becoming under pressure in the very near future. The general health of the economy is not good, I expect to see a very worrying downward spiral soon.

I think it’s deliberate attack by the government to bring this country to its knees unfortunately. Why else would they continue this debarcle when the recovery rate from COVID for most people is over 99%?

It’s horrific and I know many people in the same situation and there is no light at the end of the tunnel, especially as this is going to go well in to the summer.

The sad fact is those behind lockdowns and those supporting them don’t care.

The Government don’t care because it isn’t going to be there mess to clean up. Starmer will be our next PM and Britain will be a fully fledged socialist dictatorship within 10 years.

The SAGE committee don’t care because for many of them this situation is the culmination of their (sad and lonely) life’s work. We are lab rats in their enormous social experiment to see just how much harm they can do to people in the name of doing good. They will all be protected after this with changed identities, lifelong police protection etc, they are going to need it as well.

And most of all the vast majority of Brits (save the intelligent few in here) don’t care. The are more interested in virtue signalling on social media about how great mask wearing is, how much the LOVE OUR NHS and that nothing is more important than saving lives. “COVID deaths” are very visible because the media propaganda campaign makes them so. Collateral damage is hidden (deliberately so) and anyone who speaks out is branded as selfish by all and sundry – don’t you know their is a pandemic on is their cry.

Britain is finished and the overwhelming majority of people who live here deserve every ounce of misery they are going to suffer because they have been cheering for it.

If I could I would get out now and far away, sell assets and say goodbye. Women in Saudi Arabia have more freedom than people in Britain right now and it ain’t changing any time soon.

Could not agree more Peter. I am astounded at the naiivety of people who think things will just go back to normal. Not just socially (very dubious) but economically (extremely dubious verging on fantasy).

Yes you right

Watch James Delingpole’s interview with Charlie Ward – this was planned, and the destruction of the economy was the reason for creating this pandemic. Crashing the world’s economies is the reason, and the idea that 3 million people have been without help is awful to contemplate. The reset will be slavery. We must resist that.

It is shocking. A supply agency which I was working for 3 days a week contacted me at the end of last week to say that I may be entitled to furlough are a prime example of running onto the pitch ready to go just as the whistle has blown. Furlough would have been good back in March. As it is 3 million of us have been surviving on our wits alone!

That’s really, really bad and for the life of me I can’t fathom why those who still advocate lockdown and more restrictions think that they’re saving lives while condemning a healthy population to the threats of redundancies, unemployment, bankruptcy, mental health problems, substance abuse and others.

This cannot go on. I would imagine that the tipping point should be reached sooner rather than later.

Otherwise there will be hell to pay.

The Branch Covidians claiming that the complete and utter failure of their chosen policy is down to us are about as convincing as the Soviet commissar blaming the poor tractor production statistics on “saboteurs”.

It was not internal problems that ended the Soviet Union. It was the Fascist cold war and sanctions. The Soviet Union was reactionary from the beginning. It had to react to the assaults of the Western Capitalist Fascists after the unsuccessful attempt to erase it and use its vast resources for free.
Their tractors still work after 50 years. Longevity is an anathema in Capitalism with its planned obsolescence.

wrong wrong wrong

Peter Doshi showed in the BMJ that the Pfizer claim of 95% effcicacy was utter tosh because they only arrived at the figure by leaving out a whole crowd of people with symptoms but who they didn’t test. Counting them in reduces the efficacy rate to below 30%. But there’s no trial data for the efficacy of just one jab, none at all. They only started administering this concoction a month ago. How can anyone make any claim based on a month’s worth of data? https://blogs . bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/

Every day a new fairy tale.

not to be outdone the AZ claims are also very generous
https://www.wired.com/story/the-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-data-isnt-up-to-snuff/

didn’t stop Hancock pushing the marketing plan of course:
https://therealslog.com/2020/12/03/exclusive-how-health-secretary-matt-hancock-misled-parliament-about-the-pfizer-vaccine/

and the leaked data from Pfizer’s own push for EU approval shows they were over egging the pudding

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Why the gaslighting of disabled folks – based on the Capitalist exploitation that stops at nothing?

Another day, another call to action:
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/dont-let-them-get-away-with-sp/

This is the story of Chris Day, who blew the whistle on the understaffed NHS, understaffed ICUs in hospitals, and the horrendous shortcomings of the current government regarding the NHS… privatising, understaffing, cutting corners, etc etc etc.. and it touches on the gagging order all of the NHS staff is under, at all times it seems.

Though there is much I am upset about re compliant doctors and nurses in the NHS these days, the table needs to turn from the government laying blame at the public for “not behaving” properly and “not to overwhelm the NHS” to bringing home the point that the NHS was never equipped to deal with any pandemic (real or fake) to begin with, as demonstrated in the Cygnus Reports.

As always, none of these pledges may be 100% on target, but they are going the right direction… so if you have a fiver or tenner to spare, think about supporting this.

78000 people in the UK die each year from smoking related diseases and 8 million globally. So world wide smoking is a bigger killer than C19. Then why don’t the governments of the world spend half as much time, effort and money on stopping smoking. If 78k people die from smoking how many others are being treated for smoking related illnesses?

True that smoking is a personal issue, but aren’t smokers being selfish because they are taking away NHS resources from others who don’t have self inflicted medical conditions.

BTW I’m an ex smoker and funnily enough I managed to give up smoking due to the flu, as I found it hard to breath let alone smoke.

I wondered this too (also an ex smoker)and I think it could be probably because of the high tax revenue they get from tobacco sales. Wealth over health as per.

Precisely, but doesn’t our caring government want to save lives (sarcasm)?

I’m waiting for our caring supermarkets to ban tobacco and alcohol to keep us safe.

I am just waiting for my stupid step sister, who is a smoker, to say people who aren’t vaccinated should be denied hospital treatment. 78000 is a very useful figure…

I am a smoker, and of course if governments cared about “public health” above all else then they would ban me from smoking. They would ban many things, yet they don’t.

As they are happy to impose lockdowns for covid this cannot be because they care about freedom of choice either.

It also can’t be about tax revenue, as they are in the process of destroying much of their tax base.

What is it about? I don’t know for sure.

Smokers pay tax.
Smokers die sooner, saving expenditure on pensions.

‘78000 people in the UK die each year from smoking related diseases and 8 million globally.’

Prove it.

It’s hilarious how you’ll quote Govt. and WHO figures to back up your narrative on this but don’t accept those same sources in regards to Covid.

Maybe you should read and understand Pastor Niemoller.

By the way, the people least at risk from covid are current smokers. Those that are former smokers are most at risk. Enjoy.

Yet if you look at what the Government is doing it is far closer to what the Chavez and then Maduro government did to Venezuela.

This is disturbing. Why is there no mentioning of what the Western pseudo values regimes did/do to Venezuela? Especially in the light of heavy sanctions – how would the UK fare, if it would be isolated like Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, or Yemen even under constant bombardment?

No, to blame Communism for the assault on it since WWII is a hallmark of Fascism. What happens in the West now is much more in line with the policies of Adolf Hitler. Communism at least theoretically stands for equality. Adjusted for the human condition that includes corruption as the major flaw, Communism is in no way worse than the economic Fascism of the Capitalist West.

And please, do mention how well Cuba fares in all of this. Their Doctors are all over the place to assist other Nations – not only those who are under siege.

“ Why is there no mentioning of what the Western pseudo values regimes did/do to Venezuela? Especially in the light of heavy sanctions – how would the UK fare, if it would be isolated like Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, or Yemen even under constant bombardment?
No, to blame Communism for the assault on it since WWII is a hallmark of Fascism . ”

This would be a fair criticism if the piece addressed the conditions of living under those communist regimes, but it does not do so.

All it does is, rightly, point out the authoritarian and interventionist methods used in those countries, which are fundamental to the imposition of communism in any society that we have seen so far, and the fundamental philosophical similarity with lockdown here.

Chavez was not perfect but he did a lot to improve the lives of dirt-poor venezuelans, which is why he was repeatedly re-elected in elections which were probably fairer than the recent US one. In any event, Venezuela under his rule was way less authoritarian than the regime we are currently experiencing (the media, for instance, was very hostile towards the government). More comparable examples would be China or North Korea.

Latest EuroMomoData

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

That dip in mortality for the Republic of Ireland has to explained. Its just nuts.

Perhaps they have ‘undied’ some people they had double counted earlier and hoped no one would notice

Richie Allen show yesterday, plays a clip as spoken by a doctor on a radio show and to quote “in Ireland* the only circulating virus in the country at the moment is covid so if you have any nasal respiratory symptoms or anything of that nature it is covid until proven otherwise”

So there you have it, it’s covid or nothing.

Unbelievable.

*Safe to assume true in the whole of UK.

Covid or bust

I developed a coldsore last week, must have been Covid.

I developed a stye last week for which I am laying the blame firmly on mask wearing in the supermarket.

I know a good cure for that too – Apple Cider Vinegar (with the mother)

1. Mix 1 part ACV with 2 parts filtered or cooled, boiled water
2. Put in fridge to cool for 3 hours
3. Apply to the stye area using a clean cloth or makeup pad
4. Hold on the stye until the cloth or pad is dry
5. Repeat up to 5 times per day

Works wonders
.

Data, graphs, modelling methods, predictions and peer reviewed results analysis please.

And ask yer mum to type them, please.

Licorice lip balm is good for coldsores.

I used to suffer from horrific cold sores. I take daily 1000mg Lysine daily. Not had once in 4 years since that.

Me too, I use lysine balm.

Could you tell me where you get your balm please?

Thanks, Harry

I use hurraw licorice balm every day and if I get an outbreak I use lysine lip clear that can be bought via Amazon (although I’m avoiding Amazon). Quite hard to find so Amazon might be your only option.

https://www.luckyvitamin.com/p-3464-quantum-health-lip-clear-lysine-plus-ointment-7-grams

Many thanks stefarm….much appreciated.

Holland and Barrett have Lysine tablets.

https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/holland-barrett-l-lysine-caplets-1000mg-60006011?skuid=006012

I get the lip balm here – https://gb.pipingrock.com/lip-care/lysine-lip-balm-3-pack-015-oz-4-g-tubes-7312 ?

Thanks Sarigan!

Thank you I will look into that. I seem to get them when I am run down or sleep poorly. Two toddlers with one badly teething has been tough going.

Oh, I remember those days. Hats off to you – you have your hands full.

Always used to get them when run down and usually a couple a year – missed two friends weddings because of them! Sometimes size of a golf ball on my lower lip. Was horrific. As I say not had one since using Lysine, changed my life.

I find Vit C and D tablets put them to the sword pronto though I have had them a lot less since heavy antivirals to treat Shingles a decade ago.

‘So there you have it, it’s covid or nothing.’

Which is why the Austrian rebels’ chants of Make influenza great again is so encouraging!

Where Communism had to enforce obedience, the Western populations never needed that enforcement. People in the West at large are much more like sheep than those in Socialist/Communist Nations.

Whatever happened to the common cold?

Think it’s now the uncommon cold

It looks like whoever is pulling Bojo’s strings (and those of other national governments) is still to brief him on when the UK public are to be given their lives back. Whatever mad Bond villain is driving the lockdown bus, it isn’t stopping anytime soon!

The only historical precedents for wrecking the economy internationally on this kind of scale involve warfare. So that – and the consistent pleading/threatening of world governments for their citizens to submit to an experimental injectible medicine – got me thinking.

A lot of geneticists are on record as suspecting covid is a lab-created chimera, escaped (or released) from Wuhan, and now endemic globally. If so, then isn’t it an astonishing co-incidence that its signature protein spike just happens to involve the same protein as mammalian placenta tissue? If I’m understanding what I’ve read, then that seems to be the case.

And this would mean any such “vaccine” to treat it would look to that same protein as the secret to destroying it, ie (tin foil hat time) the “vaccine” is deliberately designed to destroy human fertility, and the virus was reverse engineered purely to support that goal. It would explain why they’re all in such a hurry to inject everyone with the freaky mRNA before the sterilisation effect becomes apparent. A soft “painless” way to depopulate the world – ideal for the kind of elite eco-warrior nutjobs who despise humanity and think they’re morally virtuous by culling the poor.

Either that, or maybe China has been cooking up a lot more than just batflu in its labs and has been threatening to release genuinely deadly (and perhaps genetically targeted) viridae into the world at large? – whatever is going on, the CCP is obviously ground zero.

The total compliance of world governments to the Chinese/globalist agenda suggests a big stick somewhere behind the scenes. Or is it just me being paranoid??

Are you being paranoid? You admit you do not know and simultaneously assert it is the Chinese Communist Party that is to blame. Whilst that may not be paranoia, it is irrational thinking. In rational thinking: first the evidence and then the conclusion. You are doing it the other way round.

I agree with Gorbals Girl. We may be the victims of Hybrid Warfare.

The evidence is that China is benefitting from this situation, and the West is dying.

China did not force Boris Johnson to violate our rights and liberties, decimate our economy, turn the NHS into the Covid Service, undermine the rule of law, hollow out parliamentary democracy, and wage a campaign of terror against the people. They instituted fascism of their own will.

It could be nearer to home with the new state-of-the-art Cell and Gene Therapy Catapult Manufacturing Innovation Centre to accelerate the mass production of a successful COVID -19 vaccine in the UK. Due to open in December 2021, the Centre will have the capacity to produce millions of doses each month

Sounds lovely! :/

And it also sounds like they have no intention of letting us out until at least December 2021 plus.

It’s You being paranoid. Why? Because You are discounting that it was China who was attacked in a biowarfare situation. Considering the constant messing with China by the U.S. stringpullers – including the worst propaganda – the conclusion should be that China was attacked and warded off that attack. There were way too many spots of outbreak simultaneously all over the globe to not be orchestrated releases. U.S. biowarfare labs are all over the planet.

Of course, the US is going to be illegally primed for biowarfare without a shadow of a doubt. We all know what the US is and what it does. But the Chinese will be exactly the same, if only to keep up with the bio arms race.

And since China appear to be the only nation actually benefitting from whatever is going on, it is not remotely irrational to suspect they had a hand in instigating and exporting it.

NB: I don’t actually see ANY propaganda about how we should mistrust China (apart from whatever ramblings Trump comes out with) – I see a media landscape where we’re encouraged to believe China is our benign ally and a potential business partner. It’s very different from how I remember Russia being handled in the 80s (and how Russia is still demonised now), and so is a bit suspicious in itself.

Gain-of-function esearch in the Wuhan lab was funded by …

The mRNA vaccines are strictly a western thing – banned in China

I’m pretty sure the US has its itchy trigger fingers in the Wuhan batflu pie as much as the Chinese!

But interesting the CCP had the good sense to ban these mRNA injections. Although I thought there was a ‘Sinovaccine’ or something doing the rounds?

Strategy for this? Who is powerful enough to hold the USA to ransom, but can’t manage Sweden?

It’s a good question. But they’re still rolling out the vaccine in Sweden, I believe. Maybe ‘they’ just don’t need to threaten the Swedish public to make them comply with government instructions to be vaccinated, so lockdowns are superfluous? Or maybe the Swedish government doesn’t have dirty hands and can’t be blackmailed by supernational actors in the same way that the US can? I dunno – it’s very true there are some outlying nations so far resisting the lockdown insanity.

So maybe we should all be looking at what these countries have in common, and why they’re escaping this punishment?

Countries resisting the lockdown insanity – Belarus: and it was the IMF (an organisation that is controlled by the US, not China) that tried to force Belarus to introduce lockdown.

This is from “Rules of contagion” by Adam Kucharski: “According to the SIR model, outbreaks need three things to take off: a sufficiently infectious pathogen , plenty of interactions between different people , and enough of the population who are susceptible. Near the critical herd immunity threshold , a small change in one of these factors can be the difference between a handful of cases and a major epidemic.”
Note the part about herd immunity. SARS-CoV-2 did not, indeed could not, suddenly appear in January 2020 in the quantities required for a pandemic.

This is further evidence that it was around in one form or another months before, and was probably in the U.K. in the autumn of 2019, maybe before.

This would correlate with the patients my colleagues and I were seeing in October 2019 with persistent cough and low grade fever, being worse in people with diabetes and asthma.

When WHO declared a pandemic it became a panicdemic and susceptible people were discharged from hospital back into their care homes. This led to the conditions for an epidemic in this country.

A very succinct explanation. I agree

The hypothesis that this has been in the UK, and elsewhere, since long before February 2020 has been kicking around for a long time. Astonishingly, no one in ‘science’ seems to want to get to the bottom of it.

A remarkably covid-like bug went through here (SW Devon) over Christmas-New Year 2019. Mrs TJN had the classic symptoms, including loss of taste/smell. And since February/March covid has never really taken off down here.

Myself and the Bro’s have decided to up the ante in line with Government policy regarding mask compliance or in our case non compliance.. The WW2 will now be used on a regular basis each of us taking turns in using it at all Banks, surgeries, dental appointment’s, hospitals etc etc..Non masking without lanyards in all areas Supermarket’s, shops etc etc.. Blackout specials will also be used in selected ares that do not comply with disability laws.. We’ll be putting out the fire with gasoline..

If you ever get the opportunity, please post pictures.

Fight fire with fire

Nice intro, then I became aware of why I never got into heavy metal.

Please tell me that’s the heaviest that metal gets.

If masks worked why stop people seeing their family. If there is one thing Johnson, his government and our Parliament should never be forgiven for, its that.

I agree, irrespective of masks. How any so called Conservative MP (or anyone for that matter) can vote for restrictions that include not being allowed to see you family is beyond me.

Video from “We got a problem” showing Pharma shill Dr Hillary haranguing a woman who doesn’t think – as per Pfizer advice – that pregnant women shouldn’t take the jab. Funnily enough, Dr Shillary thinks that things may change in five months’ time. I wonder what he’s talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvnYFptN12w

My cousin in her mid 20s had the vaccine, shes mildly asthmatic and works as a physio in the NHS. As far as I know she wants a family some day so I will be watching from the sidelines as to whether sthis happens for her or not.

My niece is a junior doctor, same age.

She had hers last week.

Happy to be part of the experiment I have to assume.

He’s a complete Chunt !

Yew Tree enthusiast

He should be nominated for “We Got A Problem’s” Shit Weasel of the Week award.

At the risk of being a pedant, it was Piers ‘organ (the ‘m’ is silent) who mentioned the 5 months right at the end.

I want these people ruined when we finally get out of the end of this arsehole.

People…RISE. Say NO, and say ENOUGH.

Anyone who has children who have been deprived of school, university, nurseries, or any form of education, must now RISE and start chaining themselves to the school and university gates. There is no point to wait for the government to regain their senses, because they never had any to begin with, which was demonstrated beautifully by initiating lockdowns in the first place.

Stop waiting for the government to hand you your freedom or your power back. It won’t happen… at least not in the way you imagine.

It will happen in the form of totalitarian blackmail – “take this experimental vaccine and you may be allowed out of your house”, “you are allowed to do x if you jump through hoops xyz and abc”.

You want your freedom back?
You want any real-world education back?
You want to travel again like free people not suffering from the plague should be allowed to?
You want the truth about the many factors and factions creating this “pandemic”?

CLAIM IT.
Claim your freedom, claim the truth, claim your children’s right to an education, claim your right to exercise, socialise, travel, interact, conduct business, and participate in life.

You are watching a real-time, totalitarian, global fascist coup d’état in action.
Compliance equals consent for them to keep going. And they WILL keep pushing.
Remove your consent. Say NO.

If only you could put that in the Tele !

On the television

I’ve been reading a lot of comments around the media as to how we should all join YouGov and start to answer “no we don’t support lockdowns” to try and swing the polls the Government is so fond of using to justify their policies in regard to C-19.

I’ve been a member of the YouGov community since February 2014 and changed my settings in 2018 to receive as many polls as possible.

I have only ever been asked once whether I support the policy of lockdown or further lockdowns and this was back at the start of November.  I have been asked fairly frequently (once a month maximum) whether I think the Government has been doing a good job of handling the  crisis, to which I have always answered “not at all” (or whatever the most negative wording is).

I understand that this is just my experience of the polling but I am thinking next time I get asked that question I may say “they are doing really well” just to see whether I get asked about lockdowns directly again.

From the DT live feed:
Sir Patrick Vallance has said it is “not safe” for people to visit loved ones in care homes even after residents have had both doses of the vaccine.
Speaking to Sky News , Sir Patrick said: “This is a horrible situation, and many of us have got relatives who are in care homes and how difficult it is not to be able to see them and not to be able to do the things that we all wish to do – the normal human things – but I’m afraid my answer to this question is no, it’s not safe.”
Hopes of restrictions being lifted soon are fading too. Asked if the lockdown would be kept in place if infection figures dropped, Sir Patrick said: “The advice at the moment is vaccines are not going to do the heavy lifting for us at the moment, anywhere near it.

How can so many people still be so oblivious and accepting? Actually, I think I can partly answer my own question. Conversations with a couple of my friends in recent days revealed that they are taking no interest at all in what is going on outside their 4 walls. They don’t look at any media apart from FB and Twitter. They haven’t even heard of lateral flow tests, have no idea what the ridiculous restrictions might be (other than accepting that they need to stay indoors to avoid mass murder), no idea about job losses and no wish to use their imagination to put themselves in the shoes of others who are suffering. I simply can’t relate to them on any level, so I suppose they are not friends any more.

The thing about Lateral Flow tests is that they are based on lifting the kind of configuration the PCR is based on, just targeting the N Gene specifically. So that’s why they say it picks up less positives because the PCR targets a number of genes.

Now if the PCR gene targeting is under serious question, what is lateral flow doing?

We have spent 10 months complaining about PCR, we may have to do the same with lateral flow. All screening should be haulted

No argument from me. My point was that people are completely oblivious to vocabulary that now saturates daily life for those of us who give a damn – they can’t have an opinion (let alone an informed one) about things that they have never even heard of. Totally unaware of the tools that are being used to manipulate and control. They are alright, thanks, with their heads stuck firmly in the sand, and I don’t see what’s going to change that.

So, the government’s Chief Scientific Adviser says the vaccine doesn’t work? That’s alright, then.

Depends what you mean by ‘work’, I suppose. It’s doing a beautiful job of distracting the masses from everything else that is going on and providing more opportunities to laud compliance and shame those guilty of indepdnent thought.

How short sighted of me. I feel such a fool, now.

They are not human.
Make friends with cat or dog instead. Life your relationships on to a higher level.
If dogs are too demanding, try a slug, it’s still a step upwards.

I know, Annie. My dogs are wise, kind, loving and loyal and we are in perfect harmony.

The Moral Maze.
Should I wear a face covering when talking to my slug?

The new state-of-the-art Cell and Gene Therapy Catapult Manufacturing Innovation Centre to accelerate the mass production of a successful COVID-19 vaccine in the UK is due to open in December 2021, the Centre will have the capacity to produce millions of doses each month. Doing so will increase the UK’s ability to respond to diseases like coronavirus and to prepare for potential future pandemics while creating new, high-skilled jobs to FUEL THE UK’S ECONOMIC RECOVERY.

As someone mentioned here before, we just create an economy based on 6 month cycles of production then roll-out of vaccines.

Existing is not living.