2021-01-26

How to destroy future generations.
Would they ever forgive us?

They shouldn’t forgive us. I feel like those of us in our 50s have left our parents to rot in care homes and screwed over the younger generations so that we feel “safe.” Of course this doesn’t apply to the sceptics among us.

Add the over 70’s to that list.
Present company exepted of course.

I wonder whether the fact that the U.S. has never elected a President who was born in the 1950s is in some way related to these generational attitudes.

Of course this doesn’t apply to the sceptics among us.

Of course it applies to sceptics when their scepticism is no more than virtue signalling to say “not in my name” , or some other hopeless platitude. In fact I would argue it makes sceptics doubly culpable for seeing the problems but refusing to act. The post-Corona trials will doubtless judge sceptics accordingly.

Those who oppose the crimes are twice as guilty as those who commit the crimes or are wilfully blind. I wonder how this doctrine would be applied in the courts.

This is to wilfully (using your term) misrepresent my point. Many ‘lockdown sceptics’ are failing to actively oppose the government, they simply like to adopt the LS label. Many avowed sceptics regularly defend, justify or even excuse the government’s draconian actions.
Unless scepticism manifests itself in political and social action then it cannot be said to be opposing anything at all; indeed the sceptic’s very lack of action could be seen as negligent at the very least ( and this IS an established legal doctrine ).
Thus to have the knowledge of the scam being pulled yet fail (for whatever reason) to use this knowledge to prevent the scam is FAR worse than being a lockdown believer/advocate.

You appear to think that words are not political actions, which is a very eccentric doctrine, to say the least.

Words can be deemed to be political actions in some but not all circumstances, a distinction long made in philosophy and literature. Expressions including “deeds, not words ” or “talk the talk etc.” arise from this distinction.
Simply stating a general disbelief or disagreement on a like-minded LS comment thread would struggle to be classed as a ‘political act’, while stating anti-lockdown views when standing in the middle of a group of angry lockdown fundamentalists or government defending Tory voters would be different.
Similarly criticising school closures on these pages is not a political act, but the Cumbrian schoolgirl’s placard certainly is.
By extension, if one believes that vaccines are dangerous and can back up that belief, the act of withholding information becomes ethically problematic – even if the current media laws aim to prevent sharing of such info. “I was following orders” (or laws) is not a recognised defence for inaction in the face of a harmful act.

Except the propaganda machine have the youth so thoroughly terrify that they probably will forgive the older generations.

”US”? I didn’t. And I wouldn’t have.

The Netherlands preparing for a 4th night of anti lockdown riots.
Not all windmills, clogs and cheese then.

The trouble is, it’s becoming harder and harder to voice skeptical opinion in the public domain, especially if you’re a high profile commentator, as it’s started to be viewed by many among the orthodox crowd as an “oxygenation” of ideas that might lead to people’s death. Obviously that argument can be turned on its head and applied equally to the lockdown zealots themselves, but the level of media-brainwashing has lead to those people being nearly impossible to convince about the importance of contextualized and long-term thinking. They really have just been plugged into a brain-washing-machine and left on a “spin” cycle!

Does anyone have any more information?

The Great Reopen UK businesses are asked to open – I am not saying anyone should break the law.

Aren’t all businesses essential – contact them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCGI4kurfbY
https://thewhiterose.uk/the-great-reopening-30-january-2021/
https://t.me/thegreatreopening

30th January t here is a call for British pubs, restaurants, hospitality to reopen. Just like Italian restaurant and bars are doing

Who’s prepared to fight for their livelihood?

More importantly who’s going to get off their backsides & support them?
You want your pubs back, your social lives…take them!!!

#Reopen #Pubs #restaurants #

If 80 people show up maskless and armed with shovels and pitchforks at each shop, pub, restaurant, bar… all over the Country, this lockdown bullsh*t will be over in an hour. There aren’t enough cops to enforce grand scale civil disobedience! Power in numbers.

I was saddened yesterday to read that over 40 shops have shut permanently because of Lockdown back in the small nice (about 100,000) city I’ve come from and, if Lockdown carries on much longer, there will be over half of them shut permanently by this. This is probably typical and in fact poorer cities and towns are probably doing even worse.

If this goes on all year with some minor tier restrictions over the summer the damage will be horrendous. The Conservative Party believes in enterprise…my arse it does.

If this goes on all year, there will be nothing left to open.

Exactly. And shop and pub owners going on about how they’ll be fined and have their licenses taken…WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU DON’T REOPEN ?? YOU‘LL BE JUST AS CLOSED AND BANKRUPT might as well take a chance and reopen!

New info over on the LDS group over on Gab (scraped from Telegram)
https://gab.com/groups/7848
also
The Grand Reopening https://gab.com/groups/23021
Vaccine injuries and deaths https://gab.com/groups/6054
Britfam https://gab.com/groups/21

Can’t access Telegram.

There is a large group on Telegram here:

https://t.me/THEGREATREOPENING

Also local groups in most areas.

Have problems installing it.

its not just hospitality, its all independant shops and businesses.. there is a telegram group.. its pretty chaotic, a lot of noise.. the main thing to note is the speed at which this national network has evolved, but I think their success may be limited. The idea was that there was an organised and concerted effort to contact all small businesses by postcode and get as many as possible on board. I cant see much of that actually going on in the group I’ve signed up with.

I’d say the answer to that one is quite clear. No – they definitely won’t forgive us.

Not in my name!

They won’t and we forget at our own peril that they’re the adults of tomorrow who will take charge of our care and purse strings when we’re no longer able to. The future generation can exact their revenge via the two things I just mentioned.

We have been warned.

Oh, Not in my name, do not lump me in the we camp….

I agree. Not in my name too but unfortunately we will be lumped together with the lockdownistas when the younger generation unleash their vengeance in the future.

The problem is, we’ll be lumped in with the criminals, who’ve been complicit in this crime. Not all Germans were Nazis, yet their punishment was collective. We’ll all be labelled sympathisers, if we don’t stop this shit-show.

Exactly. We need to act to cushion whatever damage occurs and now while much of the damage is still reversible.

What was the collective punishment?

Not in my name.

Hang on, do not lump me into the forgive us camp, not in my name……

The passivity and feelings of powerlessness are, of course, taught in the daily exposure to Covid-19 news, which never broaches the fact that “Covid-19” is not real.

Home school. The neighbourhood. Leave their system.

Let My People Go; How Organising In A Legally Cultural Separate Enclave Destroys Pharaoh

Do these people care? It’s not THEIR children who will suffer. They want to take us back to the ”us and them” days when their children will get the best of everything and ours will just have to struggle with the rest.

Nope.

Five Years Since The End Of The Earth

Tony Heller

Fifteen years ago today, Nobel Laureate Al Gore said global warming would burn up the planet in ten years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVCUODGuNcs&list=WL&index=31

Winter of Discontent: Brits Face Power Rationing as Wind Power Output Collapses (again and again)
by stopthesethings
https://stopthesethings.com/2021/01/25/winter-of-discontent-brits-face-power-rationing-as-wind-power-output-collapses-again-and-again/

Brits expecting their thousands of wind turbines to deliver the goods this winter have been disappointed, yet again. While Boris Johnson peddles his delusional plan to run the UK entirely on breezes and bluster, the typical (and wholly expected) collapse in wind power output across Britain this winter provides a taste of things to come. […]

And nobody recycles the blades. They just get dumped in landfills. Super sustainable and environmentally friendly

Someone actually saying what I’ve been thinking for years – every time I look at one, I think God, that’s bloody massive – I really hope they’ve thought about the upkeep of that and what happens to it when some other energy source becomes the way to make money.

They have a short life span and aren’t so Eco friendly afterall.

it’s not about saving the planet, just as the scamdemic is not about saving lives

If we were serious about cutting our CO2 emissions we’d be building lots of nuclear reactors, like France did in the ’70s and ’80s.

I agree. Trouble is, who’s building our reactors? The Chinese. I read they even run some wind farms ffs. We will rue the day.

Fusion reactors, not fission. If you must use fission, then use Thorium, not uranium or plutonium.

Right… and people whining about where to put the spent radioactive material? Why, right back wherever came from. It was radioactive when it came OUT of the ground after all!! It’s less so going back in!

Not to mention the thousands of tons of concrete left in the earth and the millions of miles of power-lines connecting up these ‘green’ bird-choppers.

Oh, I can imagine an excellent repurposing of those blades…something along the lines of the French Revolution. Though we’d need a jolly big basket!

We’ve been kicking the can down the road on this one for years. It’s a miracle that we haven’t had widespread powercuts before now.

We have. In August 2019 the Hornsea One wind farm went down in very windy weather while they were going for a sustainable energy record. The National Grid even boasted about it. Then they blamed it on the back-up gas stations not coming on quick enough. It disrupted mist of the rail system for days.

Germany would have continual power cuts because of its reliance on ‘renewables’. Only reason it does not is that they take power from CzR to plug the gaps. CzR relies mostly on nuclear power, which it is expanding. Germany’s antinuclear stance is built on a lie.

Nuclear NIMBYs — I guess they take a fair amount of French nuclear power too.

You can get the actual data on energy generation and consumption here:

https://gridwatch.co.uk/

Things look tight at the moment, but my optimistic view is that the weather will probably change.

But here’s the thing. When you make everyone work from home our needs go up. So our heating and light is on most days, 3 computers running in work hours. So if somebody had bothered to look at costs of lockdown this should have been at the top of the list. What’s that, you haven’t done that yet?? What a splendid government this is.

You would think so Spikedeel, but in fact the total demand is not much changed from this time last year.

I don’t know that it’s that much less actually. Most heating systems are more efficient if they’re not having to deal with too big of a temperature gradient. So reducing your thermostat setting to 12 C /55F during the day just makes it run more to catch up Later. We have ours at 20C /68 F and wear a sweater. We do have a ground source heat pump which is much more efficient than many other heating and cooling options. Also while working from home you ARE saving gas if you’re not driving to work.

Well, there certainly is enough hot air and bluster coming from Boris and Co. Seriously, though, whenever I hear “green agenda” I think of another meaning of “green” – naivety!

The massive flatulence of the self serving junta running the country is a more reliable source of energy.

Tuvalu was supposed to have sunk beneath the waves by now.

Rather than sinking beneath the waves, it is actually bigger.

I believe Greenland is too!

Yes – and there is no roll-back on the AGW lies, 4 decades on from the start. I used to think the truth will out on that, but the juggernaut still rolls on; will the covid insanity last as long???

I’ve noticed the green agenda seeping through gradually over the years. On the one hand, I’m happy to see useful things being done for the environment such as clearing up waste and producing less junk (looking at you, billions of synthetic masks…). But on the other, I’m doubtful this will make any difference – and in fact may make things worse. The fact that you’d need to flatten forests to make sufficient space for solar panel farms, or disrupt marine and avian life to erect thousands of turbines and rob the Earth of all of its rare materials to produce batteries… hmm… It’s almost as if the green agenda is not so green afteralll…

The poor mother, and the poor child whom she strangled (story linked to above).

Official response:

Olga Freeman had loved and cared for Dylan for many years, but the strain and pressures of her son’s severe and complex special needs had built up and that, combined with her impaired mental health, led to heartbreaking consequences.

What isn’t even mentioned??? Were you eagle-eyed enough to notice?

IT ISN’T AN ELEPHANT IN THIS BLOODY ROOM, IT’S A SODDING DIPLODOCUS.

The lockdownistas should look at that mother in the eye and tell her that the lockdowns have destroyed her and her son’s life.

Of course the cowards won’t do it…..if it saves one life….

New info over on the LDS group over on Gab (scraped from Telegram_

https://gab.com/groups/7848

also
The Grand Reopening https://gab.com/groups/23021
Vaccine injuries and deaths https://gab.com/groups/6054
Britfam https://gab.com/groups/21

Is there a source for that (an Italian newspaper perhaps?) I can see that the Italian PM is resigning, but not sure if that’s connected.. I don’t see any mention of lockdowns though.

Meh.

The 14-year-old’s poem atl sums it up. I understand the feeling totally and I’m in my forties.

I’m treading water in my career, feeling like I’m a collaborator and a coward because I need the wage to support my family.

I have a wonderful family and that gives me purpose- to provide for them, to protect my children, to support my wife.

I am also a Christian which gives me something outside myself to look to.

But for those who are young, or single or widowed… What is the point?

We have to keep the flame of humanity alive. I think it’s as basic and vital as that. We need to make sure that we are saying by our words and actions that there is a point. That there is meaning to life. That each person means something.

We are not automatons. We are not mice in a lab. We are not mere pieces of meat to be ordered about and experimented on.

We are human beings. We are born free and although flawed and prone to evil we will not let that evil conquer us.

Stand up. Stay strong. Fight the battle.

Do it today for yourself, your children and for humanity.

And God is with us, alleluia.

If I had no children I would have been in Tanzania by now, I wouldn’t still be languishing in this shit-hole, waiting to be sent to the gulag

My friend buggered off to Tanzania just before Christmas to escape this shitshow.

I am a widower. I tried hard to commit suicide some months ago when I realised my small company was destroyed by the lockdown. But I survived, I believe due to God’s intervention (a chain of events I won’t describe but were unlikely in the extreme. ). Since then I have become determined to see this thing through, and hopefully live long enough to see the culprits punished.

You were not trying to commit suicide. What you did, was you survived the government’s attempt to MURDER you! I’m so glad you survived. And I hope you understand, you’re not to blame. X

Well said, Jinks!

That’s definitely a more accurate way of looking at it.

Just in case you haven’t heard of this podcast, two vicars against lockdowns, believing (controversially) that churches ought not to shut down. Sorry ‘go online’. I have found it a comfort:

http://irreverend.org.uk/

It is really lonely being anti-lockdown and trying to be a Christian. No one understands.

I note the thing that a reader has found re the State being obliged to cover the cost of “appropriate” accommodation for quarantine purposes for those returning to Britain – but I don’t think that kite will fly. The reason being who defines what is meant by “appropriate” and I can’t somehow see the Government agreeing with what these returning travellers will deem to be “appropriate” standard somehow. Appropriate could well be deemed to mean = well you’ve got a bed (a camp-bed there in some huge impersonal building with all the other travellers). Well you’ve got food (whatever “cheap and cheerful” rubber-bread sandwiches and junk food cereals we care to throw at you). Job done – somewhere to sleep and something to eat – but it won’t be a decent hotel with decent breakfast and there won’t be tv to watch/decent surroundings generally. So that idea isn’t going to be a runner.

Of course it isn’t. It will be ignored like everything else. The woman who wrote her letter to Priti Patel is of course stating obvious human truths, but she will be ignored. Ever since this began, the government has ignored everybody except its menagerie of pseudoscientist psychopaths. It will continue to do so. Anyone living abroad and wishing or needing to return to Pudding Island can just get stuffed.

Pudding Island? Do I scent a Gerald Durrell fan?

You scent a great fan of both Gerald and Lawrence. In different moods, of course.

I can never take Laurence seriously because of my mental pictures of Larry.

I love the Alexandria Quartet and I’m learning to love the Avignon Quintet. And the wonderful travelogue he wrote at the end of his life, about Provence, with the magnificent title “Caesar’s Vast Ghost”. I’m sure Gerald mocked the hell out of him for being arty-farty and he mocked the hell out of Gerald for the animal obsession, but they both had the greatest respect for each other too. It was Lawrence who urged Gerald on to write and assured him he had the talent to make a success of it.

Poor old Leslie didn’t do so well, though. That always casts a bit of a shadow.

Yes, Leslie was a sad case.
I do think that Prospero’s Cell is an absolute gem. I’m intrigued by the story of the fisherman who caught octopuses with love, which Gerald and Lawrence both tell. I wonder if it ever really happened.

I’ve only read Esprit de Corps. Laugh out loud funny. Must read some of his other stuff.

Hang on there. Anyone can return to whom £1,500 is easily affordable. It’s only the riff-raff who can’t afford that who “can just get stuffed.”

Riff-raff like me, that is.

I hope you know I was speaking in the voice of an imagainary zealot. I too am one of the riff-raff.

Has anyone ascertained if this is just for visitors to the UK? Or will it be for people coming back from holiday (who have probably had to have a test to get on the plane? They cannot mean if I go to Spain for two weeks on an all inclusive I need to book a hotel (aka prison) for two weeks when I get home?

Yes, that’s exactly what they mean.

If you follow up the links to Agenda 21 and the Great Reset, it is quite obvious that they intend to push this (hence the “Green Agenda”) via the removal of the ability of most people to travel. At a stroke, this reduces the “Carbon Footprint” of everyone, but not to our benefit.

They intend that nobody outside “the Elite” will be allowed to travel in private vehicles (railways only for the rest of us, that’s why HS2 is being pushed so hard). Everyone will be forced off the land and into micro-flats, which are already in production. Only the elite will be able to travel in the wild areas of Britain (in what we would refer to as “the countryside”) and all village properties will be re-wilded.

You’ll own nothing (substantial) and the population will be reduced by a combination of bad health and hunger.

None of this is hidden; it’s all there in plain sight. It’s just that people can’t bring themselves to understand how easily this can be forced to happen if a tiny minority hold the financial levers of power.

The way the Fascist beasts keep snatching away the slightest breath of hope reminds me of a novel and a story.

The novel is Ivan Denisovich , where the hero/author says that people who had spent years in the Soviet camps would reach the day of their projected release, only to be told that their sentences had been extended for another ten years.

The story is by Alfred de Vigny. A prisoner of the Inquisition thinks he’s found a way of escape, the night before he is due to be burned alive. At the very last minute, they nab him as they always planned to. And the Inquisitor wraps him in a loving embrace, saying with tender reproach, ‘My son, surely you did not dream of leaving us?’

Apply those psychological torture tactics to 67 million people and you have the Bozo-Dungford-Turdgeon shitshow.

One line from Ivan Denisovich that has always stuck in my mind: “How can a man who is warm understand a man who is cold?”

O who can hold a fire in his hand
By thinking on the frosty Caucasus?

Brilliant book

Having been through a 14-day quarantine on arriving in Taiwan in late November (wife visiting her family) I’m not opposed to quarantine programs per se. What does bother me is the hotel aspect of it.
In Taiwan you are allowed to quarantine in a hotel if you have no home or at home as long as its facilities are exclusively for your use (no spaces shared with anyone else). My in-laws had a second home in the countryside at which my wife and I quarantined, with them visiting us a couple of times to leave a box of food at the front door. If you don’t have family to do this, the local government will see to it that you get stuff. Now I realize that people have been asked to quarantine at home in the UK but basically don’t bother. Taiwan solved this by putting an app on your moble phone which monitors your location 24/7 and alerts the authorities if you move. Don’t have a mobile? They will lend you one. There have been a number of cases of people who let their batteries die and the phone switch off only to get a visit from the police to find out where they were an hour or so later. People could leave their phones at home and go out, I guess, but the penalties for that are severe (£25,000 fine) and almost everyone agrees that the policy is fair and should be followed (i.e. they trust the government).
Anyway, my point is that while Taiwan has a strict quarantine regime, you can serve out your time at home, as long as it’s only you living in it. And the supervision makes sure there’s little cheating. Now, here my wife and I are in Taiwan, wanting to go back to the UK, but basically (assuming an all-countries quarantine order) likely to be penalized for doing so to the tune of at least £3,000. That is not small money to us (we are retirees–maybe it is to a Cabinet minister). Yet we have an empty flat less than 10 miles from Heathrow in which we could stay for nothing. Why can’t we do that? I suspect there are Brits abroad (potentially in surprisingly large numbers, given how many live overseas on and off) who will basically be excluded from returning to their country because they don’t have the money to waste on hotel quarantine.

Its all a bit over the top for something similar to Asian or Hong Kong flu

This is a beautiful piece of understatement.

Arriving in Thailand, you have a choice between free accommodation at a government quarantine facility (also known as “two weeks in a prison camp”) or paying between £1,500 and £8,500 to quarantine in an approved hotel.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, in October 2020 (the latest month for which statistics are available), the total number of tourists entering Thailand was 799 (down from 2,140,116 in October 2019). That figure of 799 includes 27 from the United Kingdom. “Tourist”, of course, only refers to the visa type, so the Britons entering in that month may well have been travelling for other reasons, trying to keep up with family etc.

799 vs over 2 million visitors means the tourist industry is dead. And how many hundreds of thousands have lost their livelihoods and will starve? I’ll bet the number is greater than those dying of Covid…

So far in total we have had 75 deaths from covid-19 since the start of this debacle.

To put this into perspective there are usually about 60 deaths a DAY on the roads here.

The poverty here is increasing rapidly amongst those who work(ed) in the tourist sector. Very, very sad to see.

Meanwhile the rich just get richer.

there shouldn’t be any quarantining at all is the point. the whole thing is complete bollocks.

Especially when they’ll be quarantining people coming from countries with deaths in single figures. It’s like quarantining a (supposedly) zombie-infested country on the grounds that “there might be even scarier zombies abroad”.

The idea that we should quarantine people at the border because we are afraid of yet to be found new variants of a reasonably mild endemic respiratory virus is crazy in its entirety.

That’s without even getting into the practicalities and usefulness of such policies when applied in the UK

And to be frank it us a year late. The virus and mutations are already here. If we slammed the door on all Chinese in November 2019 that might have helped but of course nobody was being told about the problem so it can’t have happened. Its just another stupid knee jerk reaction to be seen to be doing something. But are you really doing this to people coming back from holiday? Why are you trying to kill the travel industry? As a certain Mr Rotten once said “No Future, no future!”

Again, they want the travel industry removed by removing the “mass travel” part of it that allows Ryanair to fly people across the world for a tenner. Elites only, when the time comes.

You see, if the elites want to travel in private jets and extreme comfort, the amount of “carbon” used (as if anyone gives a shit) is tiny compared with the all-summer-long mass travel to Spain, Italy, etc. So it’s travel where they want (for them) and two weeks in a boarding house for you.

Another story about a legal victory. This time, the Austrian Constitutional Court has declared the “district quarantines” (where you are forbidden to leave your village or suburb) imposed in the Tirol last spring illegal. There are now demands for fines issued to be repaid and for ongoing legal proceedings to be cancelled.

https://kurier.at/chronik/oesterreich/tiroler-corona-vollquarantaene-war-rechtswidrig/401161998

Corona quarantine in Tirol was illegal

The Verfassungsgerichtshof (Austrian Constitutional Court) reached this verdict having already overturned regulations governing going outside and mask mandates in schools.

The imposition last spring of the full Covid quarantine and “self-isolation” mandate as ordered by the provincial government of the Tirol was illegal. This is the conclusion in the ruling of the Austrian Constitutional Court (Verfassungsgerichtshof, VfGH), reached on December 10 and published on Tuesday [January 19 – NN], according to the Tiroler Tageszeitung .

The decrees issued on March 20 of last year by provincial governor Günther Platter (Austrian People’s Party), prohibiting people from leaving their home district, are thus rescinded, although the Epidemic Act passed on April 5 then superseded these provisions. The ban on leaving one’s own home was also overturned. The Supreme Court has already rescinded a number of measures introduced by the federal government.

Harsher measures than the federal government

At the beginning of the corona epidemic, Tirol imposed harsher measures than the federal government. At first, full quarantine applied to districts in the Paznaun Valley, including Ischgl, St. Anton am Arlberg and Sölden, before Platter imposed “self-isolation” on all districts in the Tirol.

Politicians reacted quickly to the ruling. The Tirol FPÖ (Freedom Party of Austria) leader, Markus Abwerzger, announced himself “pleased” by the ruling from the Constitutional Court. “The ruling that the quarantining of districts across the whole province was illegal proves that basic rights and freedoms still apply even in times of pandemic.”

The Austrian People’s Party, Abwerzger continued, must “finally understand that constitutional rights cannot be trampled underfoot. The Constitutional Court has already declared numerous regulations imposed by the federal government and the provinces illegal.” Abwerzger demanded that all administrative penalties imposed on the basis of the illegal regulations be retrospectively annulled and that all collection of fines be stopped immediately.

Constitutional rights cannot be trampled underfoot?
They can in this black hole of a country.
Still -encouraging, thank you, NN.

3rd or is it the 5th night of anti lockdown protests in the Netherlands.
1st comment: I bet the Dutch government hope that the dyke will hold.
2nd comment: How come the MSM are actually reporting it?

Things do seem to be acquiring an encouraging momentum over there. The Dutch do not like being walked over.

…especially not in wooden shoes – those things HURT.

Yes, the question of why it is being reported. I think we will find out imminently. My guesses include:
– A prelude to a brutal crackdown to be used as a deterrent.
– A prelude to a false flag operation to demonise the protestors.

Or just so everyone goes “Oh, those nasty/irresponsible/dirty/degenerate/selfish people burning those nice cars – how dare they BREAK THE RULES!”

What mystifies me a little bit is why the populations in English cities who rioted in 2011 over police brutality are now just obediently sitting at home like the police tell them.

It’s the emotional blackmail and the guilt tripping rather than fear that is working here I think. Endless shared photos of exhausted NHS staff (usually pretty young women, doe eyes peeping over their masks) popping up in Facebook feeds pleading with us to do the right thing. It’s horrendous but it works.

Umm, because there are no PS5s in stock, due to covid? I witnessed those “riots” close up.

But I have not seen them interviewing one protester. Only hand wringing politicians. Law breakers, illegal gatherings, etc. Not one, why are you protesting mate?

Found out from a friend last night that a mutual friend is suicidal

Early 40s, hasn’t worked for a year, no government help, trapped in house with other half who is ‘unhelpful’ to say the least

You can multiply her up by a million

God have mercy on our souls – what have we done?

WE haven’t.We have done our best to combat the criminal insanity. We must and will continue to do so.

and I heard of a 35-year-old whose untreated breast cancer is now terminal….I have yet to hear of a person who died of covid

We don’t know of anyone who has had it never mind died from it.

I had it.
(I get EVERYTHING – just call me the coalmine canary)
It was unpleasant, but then, can’t recall ever really enjoying being sick.
Nevertheless, here I am, replying.
Ergo, not dead.

We haven’t done anything, the politicians have caused this destruction and I hope they burn in hell for an eternity along with the Davos set.

Get them to come on here and have a rant about “them indoors”. It really does help! They are not alone.

Anybody who says these were done because of incompetence is wrong. These are deliberately done destructions. Change of economic(monetary) and social infrastructure(China style social fabric) is being achieved using a lab made nasty virus. Sick but effective. This is what I believe.

The other responses are right, WE haven’t done a thing, it’s our grotesque governments and everyone that’s consenting to this shitshow that have blood on their hands.

As a matter of urgency, talk, meet or whatever you have to do to communicate with your friend, just do it.

My brother-in-law jumped in front of a train 2 days before Christmas, leaving behind a wife and two kids (6,5). Sure, he had other issues due to drink, but he probably wouldn’t have descended into the darkness if he hadn’t lost his business thus facing losing their home etc.

He was the loveliest, most gentle and unassuming man you could wish to meet.

These instigators and collaborators are beyond evil.

Keep listening to your friend. The best of luck for a dreadful, desperate situation.

I will not grieve for the 89 year old who succumbs to a propagandized, overhyped respiratory disease, nor will I point the finger of blame at innocent members of society for “spreading” said disease when a significant number of infections are now picked up in hospital and care settings, and the virus itself is now endemic here in the UK.

The collective delirium currently afflicting most of the British public means that they now believe that life can be extended and people can be saved by employing draconian restrictions on our civil liberties. They have completely lost sight of the fact that it is nigh impossible to control infectious, microscopic organisms, and the passing of the aged and comorbid due to seasonal viruses is unfortunately nature’s way. It is the immutable established order – a core tenet of the great circle of life, where the fit and healthy are spared and those who are full of years give way to new life.

This new, infantile view of death and the idea that the impossible sacrifices of lockdowns actually “save lives” have been a central part of government brainwashing. It is hugely destructive, it is an egregious lie and openly encourages the valuation of Covid deaths at the expense of the many, many other deaths caused directly by these restrictions.

I DO grieve however for the young mother of three who now has terminal breast cancer due to cancelled scans and missed treatments. I do grieve for the businessman who is facing ruin because of lockdown, and is watching helplessly as decades of hard work evaporates into dust. I DO grieve for the despondent teenager, isolated from her friends, fearing the worst for her future, contemplating ending her short life because the present is just too terrible to endure.

Theae are the people who matter RIGHT NOW. People with many quality years ahead of them, having their lives destroyed by this sick, totalitarian experiment. Their stories may never make the BBC evening news or the front page of the newspapers. There will never be an omnipresent media and political campaign to save *their* lives – it doesn’t suit the narrative, and these deaths cannot be manipulated by evil government scientists or WEF puppets in order to terrorise the population into conformity.

They are the forgotten. The silent victims of the greatest crime in our country’s long
history, perpetrated by the government against its own citizens. We may never know the true number who have been robbed from us, as the needless deaths due to lockdown will be felt for many years from now. Every single life extinguished by this murderous regime must be remembered, and avenged.

I dedicate my continued non-compliance to their memory.

Magnificent.

A noble speech.I bow to you.

Hear, hear!!!!

Thank you! Inspiring words. It may not seem much but 3 friends previously firmly in the Covid absolute fervent belief camp are wavering without any input from me. Science based articles forwarded previously by myself were dismissed as mumbo jumbo however their recent emails are becoming much more quizzical about what the MSM are reporting. Just maybe the tide may be begining to turn.,albeit very slowly. The lack of very few opposite, or questioning at a forensic level, views in MSM is starting to have a negative effect. Interestingly they are becoming partic curious about the ‘Vaccine’ s’ especially the numbers quoted eagerly having it and the take up rate as none of the elderly relatives they themselves know have taken it up.

Simply wonderful words Scotty.

Now please tell me that on the basis of this submission you have just been offered the job as Piffle’s speech writer, then I’ll know we can win this battle.

Damn right brother!

Brilliant. Adding this to my Word document of LS comments.

Me too. I thought I was the only one doing that!

i m glad another fellow comment saver !

my favorite thing these brilliant comments im glad you are saving them i do screen shots that s all i know how to do but c an’ t collect anywhere near all of them . only a few i hope there is a book some day !

Great post, Scotty.

Hear hear

hear hear too!

Very poignant and beautifully articulated.

Rightly or wrongly, I am finding a degree of annoyance in reading LS, as its key initial format of challenging certain narratives, articles etc., with rational opinion, argument or/and evidence, appears to have all but vanished. Increasingly it appears to be a collection of articles from MSM but with no input on the narrative or content of said articles, and thus increasingly appears to supporting the overall output from MSM. In todays, for example, where is the challenge to the graph about deaths in certain occupations – how do the numbers stand as per percentage of the total workforce, were other factors involved, less healthy lifestyle, weight, average age of workforce etc., cut and pasting some graph from the DM, without proposing other thoughtful considerations on its presentation is less than I expect from LS. While on this matter, could you also question your repeated assertion that there was a second wave – are we sure about this? Where are the influenza numbers this year, how much of this wave was based on mass testing and false positives, plus repeated tests on the same individual being included. What has happened to critical thinking which was once the main stalwart of this site?
To continue my moan, as it has been building up for a few days, why on earth was the article from Alex Morton not challenged in its unevidenced assertion that closing borders would decrease new strains – are these new strains, already present but just happened to be detected in different countries, if they pose a lesser risk why are they an issue, have they actually been isolated, would like to see some evidence as they did appear rather conveniently in December, no suggestion of a cost benefit analysis of shutting borders on businesses, travel industry and people’s lives. 5.5 million Brits are expat and live and work overseas, hundreds of thousands of Europeans and commonwealth citizens live and work in the UK, including in healthcare; my guess they will opt to return home if such a ban came in force. Families have members working in different countries, expat have children in schools in different countries. Once borders are closed and airlines stop flying to that country, how are families expected to stay connected. I myself fit into this category and will be separated from my husband if I cannot organise long term house and cat care so I can relocate. Then there is the logistical nightmare of quarantining such large numbers let alone the human rights implications of imprisoning healthy people with a negative PCR – there has been no evidence according to WHO of asymptomatic transmission. These are some questions I would like to have seen thrown at this article, not ‘worth reading in full’.
Equally, the piece by David Cook, surely the core of sceptism is that locking down a country has never been instrumental in any pandemic plan, the government have actually acted against it plan, and the devastating affects on society, mental stability, the economy is extremely disproportionate to the mortality rates of the virus with 99.96% not adversely affected. How many deaths recorded are actually from covid and not from a not fit for purpose positive PCR test, or just registered as covid -the ONS figures shown 388 deaths from covid in under 60s. Where are the questions on why we are recording cumulative numbers from 2 consecutive virus seasons, which has never been done with flu. The continued response with such draconian measures makes little practical sense and I am always concerned how the reference to mental health appears as a passing comment and lacks any real context on how serious such matters are. Did not the chap who addressed smallpox state that the best response was to cause as little interference in normal life habits. Social distancing after all was an arbitrary figure and admitted to be based on nothing but the precautionary principle. The impact on our immune system of over santising and hiding has yet to be revealed.
So, that’s me done for now. No I do not want to exist in an echo chamber, but I do expect some thought provoking analysis on some articles.
On the recent 2 articles on ‘lost’ relatives, to the authors, please criticize the staff in the NHS and not excuse them with the overwhelmed get out clause. It is inexcusable what you have experienced, it is down to poor organisation, apathy and frankly at times a don’t care attitude. Any organisation that becomes above criticism will make no effort to improve its service, but become more mired in inefficiencies and apathy. I say this as an ex senior nurse.

I agree that a defensive tone has crept into the articles recently, and I very much agree that vocabulary like “second wave” and “case numbers” should not be used, but challenged.

You’ll be back. It’s like the Mafia, you can’t leave.

I was actually out for 30 years and only returned 2 years ago, husband stayed, had intended to return last year, but we delayed it with the advent of covid – fortunately I maintained my Qatari residence status. I am in Doha now, and yes, a better place to be at the moment, and would definitely not be returning to the UK if it wasn’t for the cats – doubt they will even appreciate the sacrifice. Yes, masks needed in shops, though worn as you deem fit, no stasi barking at you. Everything open including restaurants and bars – tables arranged without arrays of perspex and tape, staff incredibly genial which makes everything less of a trial if you do have to wear a mask until seated or need to show your app – track and trace. People are interacting in shops, streets etc., as normal – swerving, shirking and scurrying is non existent. Walking on the Corniche it struck me there was no signage, orders etc., same in shops – almost normal and what a huge relief – it is then you realise how oppressive things have become.
Qatar had their track and trace app up and running in May last year, they ended their initial lockdown and this was their way out – they have always moved in the direction of reducing restrictions not the yoyo farce we have. Death figures are incredibly low,under 10% of the UK, which blows the social distancing myth out of the water. Yes, I had a week of quarantine on entering, but again it was done with efficiency and politeness that dignity remained intact ( unlike the Robocops in Heathrow), as with the hotel. With only small numbers entering this is achieveable, unlike the potential fiasco that will be the quarantine system in the UK.
2 weeks left of normality, I will savour every day before the dreaded return.

Please diarise your experiences upon your return. I am sure that we would be interested.

Don’t you mean the Catholic church?

Catholic Church? Plenty of Christian lockdown sceptics, (and Christian includes of course the Church of Rome). Some of the most sceptical people I know are Catholic. And, incidentally, one of my favourite politicians was a Catholic and Socialist.

The Catholic church I attend each Sunday is the only place I know where sceptics gather in any numbers, fifty or sixty of them spread across two Masses, all ages, no masks, no tape across seats, no floor signs, no one-way systems, no segregation of seating into family bubbles, everyone stopping to chat outside afterwards. Sadly a lot of churches seem to have switched from Christianity to covid zealotry, including the one I used to attend where the hordes of bossy middle-aged women have taken full control, even forcing the priest into retirement because they felt he wasn’t being sufficiently careful, as they saw it.

The analysis, the dissection of the data and the challenges are here in the comments section. I am happy to pick up news stuff 2nd hand from this site it saves my blood pressure from having to read too much MSM news. I have also suspected that the style of this site reflects to need avoid too much attention from the covid zealots who would want to see it shut down. This comments section is so important, our unity and support is so necessary, the real tragedy is if we were to lose this discussion platform.

i feel the same way is like being able to talk to one another here . no where esle have i found that and alosmt eveyone i perosally know is a believer. so this is a lifesaver for me

Agreed. I’m feeling the tone has shifted somewhat to one of trying to placate everyone, or more specifically walking the line of compliance just enough to avoid additional targeting for being a sceptic.
Though there are occasionally useful articles it seems to be a toned down approach to scepticism. I’m really only coming here anymore for the comments section in which I find people of like mind but also a wealth of additional information. The comments are now more interesting and informative than the blog.
Anyway, I think for me it’s time for a break form the site. However, I’ll end on this; I can now see why James D gets so frustrated talking to Toby on their podcast.

I completely agree. It is the comment section and links, articles that are now the real value of this site.

Agreed here too. I skim the main content unless something catches my eye and then jump to the comments for the real content. And likewise a few times through the day I come back to the comments to see what the latest news is.

Definitely…I just go to the comments now….it seems to be where the real analysis takes place such as Rick’s dissection of the death figures.

Yes I feel for James too…on the last one Toby said how much he liked Emily Maitliss ffs.

I’d rather get the news, however bad, from here than from the sewage MSM,

I think you expect too much of Toby and his volunteers. He must feel he is on a daily treadmill!
Many many months ago, when he was off on his jaunt to Venice, and was thinking of ‘some time off’ from the daily updates, I urged him to produce even a blank page, as a coat hook for the BTL community.
He is also taking personal flak for being the poster boy for the LS movement (would that there were such a thing).
Cut the guy some slack!

What is BTL?

below the line — i.e. comments

cheers

Bacon, tomato and lettuce, apparently.

Bizarre triangle love.

That sounds like a rather interesting sandwich!

and guacamole if you’re M&S. And woke. Probably.

How is he coping with it all?

very true what woudl we do wiht out toby having s tarted this great group adn continuing it atmuch cost to himself thank you toby and everyone here commenst adn will ian etc

I write the same nearly every day Hattie – today we have a Daily Mail graph showing ‘deaths from coronavirus’, a completely meaningless title; Something Moore saying how well New Zealand has done, a country with 3 people, 16 light years from anywhere; she adds a ‘halleluliah’ for the fact that Boris has got a vaccine ready; and to top it all we have a fantastic picture of a schoolgirl resistor in Keswick but LS has to append an insult to Greta Thunberg. Can we please have some editorial standards in LS???

Sorry, but insulting Greta is fun. She can’t insult the whole of humanity without getting pushback. She is no longer a (((controlled))) child.

Correct, it is evolving as a depressing read. The comments always restore my sanity.

Well put. I guess the above the line content is being influenced by the mainstream attack on sceptics either consciously or unconsciously. That said, I barely skim the main page these days, I find much more important and interesting content in the comments down here.

Well said Hattie. I barely read the top section anymore its like they are being monitored and are not giving opinions anymore just cherry picking stories. Mostly with a unchallenged viewpoint. This crap about defending Toby against O’Neil. Why? your a big boy do it yourself. If you can’t see his arguments are bullshit cherry picking you probably need to hand over the mantle of LS to someone who will not take this crap and will counter anything like this with more vigour than you are.

I agree with that and have already today on another comment questioned the ‘matey’ reference to what ‘Boris’ is doing as if he is some kind of long lost friend. This man really does have blood on his hands. Deaths from covid in so far as they are correctly diagnosed are an act of nature which has been going on since the start of time. The deaths we are now seeing through suicide and despair are a direct consequence of government policy and have to be seen as such. There is no room for mateyness with these evil scumbags. You might as well be matey about Pol Pot.

It’s probably because there are more and more authors and it is becoming diluted. When Toby wrote the articles is was more sceptical. It has, like many things, expanded too much and become too long. I criticised it last week for appearing to accept that there has been a ‘second wave’. The comments section is where I gain much of the support I desperately need.

I thought that the graphs of deaths of Covid by occupation was annoying. More information needed to put this in perspective. ie. deaths of bin men, teachers, health workers over the last few years. Whether deaths from Covid or with Covid. Such information is probably not available.

Good points.
When you mention closing borders to ‘stop new strains’, it reminds me of when ‘The Science’ (or the Government- not sure which) said that closing the borders would be pointless. That was when we were in ‘flattern the curve’ mode.

Quite.
But, in fairness to Toby and the rest of the LS scribes, if they broadened their scope to include all countervailing evidence and arguments, the site would become unmanageably huge.

I doubt most of you will not be too surprised at what this Italian doctor has to say. Please share.
https://nofakenews.net/2020/08/24/italian-doctor-warns-citizens-about-covid-19-depopulation-vaccine-video/

I suppose the architects of lockdown have done a risk or cost/benefit analysis. Then if deaths due to lockdown outweigh those saved, they can point at the calculations, see what they got right or wrong and we can learn lessons.

Of course if they haven’t done those calculations…

45K or so dead in the UK from the LDs? ‘Excess’ deaths might be excessive due to lack of access to save the bloated, inefficient, socialised and management saturated NHS.

If you stop care for your population, 30% of whom are obese. Don’t be surprised when people start getting ill and dying.

Concentration camps and the NHS

With the predicted introduction of hotel quarantine, the government may have forgotten the NHS is dependent on foreign workers and indeed British citizens, some who have foreign partners but cannot settle here because their income does not meet the government minimum income requirement.

I know one who is an ambulance driver. He goes to look after his British children every few months, with their mother abroad. He is there now and won’t be coming back to the UK with all this going on. Patel and clueless Boris won’t think if that effect, which will be long term, when introducing their new policy.

The collatoral damage is piling up now. There is going to be civil unrest throughout the world. These parasitic globalists have goaded the people into it.

Will Brits actually stand up though? I doubt it! The protests there have been have been relatively small compared to other EU countries. We are not going to win by writing letters – I should know, I have written many with no results at all.

I thought our football hoolies might have stood up to be counted, the amount of banging on they do about WW2, sensitivity to oppressive cultures etc, but no.

I hope once the better weather sets in and the 1 year anniversary of this shitshow. If nothing materialises March/ April i’ll be an eternal pessimist.

Your last sentence needs to stop after the 6th word. I used to think Boris was intelligent but lazy but it takes a particular kind of stupid and weak to have kept this disaster going for so long and to keep adding further to it.

The decrease in population will render it meaningless. 10% population non-British. 8% NHS staff is non-British. Swings and roundabouts.

If you support lockdown, you support every vicious, unfair, illogical, action of ALL our MPS. End this farce. No half measures. No part opening, and part closing of society, schools, businesses, theatres, museums, National Trust, sports clubs, gyms, no limits on travel, no f ing social distancing and no masks!

We need to rename Stockholm syndrome as rather ironically it is one of the only capital in Europe that hasn’t held its citizens captive. Perhaps London syndrome. Endofthefreewest syndrome?
Of course this is quite aside from the objective fact the the handling in Stockholm should held up as THE EXAMPLE.

Job losses from virus 4 times as bad as ’09 financial crisis (apnews.com)

Utterly unsustainable!

You don’t expect our lazy treasonous MPs to care do you. They haven’t lost their jobs, mores the pity!

Take away the UBI er the Furlough payments and that number doubles yet again….9 mn on UBI from the Hindoo’s magic money machine which will mean a lot higher taxation rates starting next year….

This is not job losses due to the virus. The virus did not shut down shops, close pubs, stop people going to work and imprison 60 million well people. That was the government. They are 100% responsible for ALL the fall-out from their idiotic decision.

I couldn’t agree more with Kathrine Moore! I have 2 grandsons in the US that I would have seen last year. Meantime they have grown 20+cm and there is no substitute for time spent with them. I have no grandchildren in NZ, I have 2 children in the US. I am sad and mad!

Our twin grandsons are in Uganda, they try and hug us through the computer zoom screen! Our youngest daughter is in Gulag Cardiff just the other side of the Bristol Channel from us, before Christmas I was looking at getting a boat to go across and pick her up but she was allowed out for Christmas Day but the boat option looks like it might be back on the agenda!
My Mum died last February, I often think I can hear her chortling, ‘clever old me I just got out in the nick of time.
All this supposedly in the name of Public Health!
”Oh, they call it livin’, Baby, someone’s lyin’.”

Thank you Steve. I knew those words from somewhere so I went to look them up. They were from Tom Paxton, a long time favourite of mine. I wonder what he makes of all this? He wrote some great songs, many of them poking fun at the establishment. Think I will go and listen to some of them now!

So sad for children not to be able to see their families in other countries.

What about young children with mothers and fathers in different countries?

I must say I found the entry in John Redwood’s diary, When will we be allowed out of lockdown, depressingly passive. Mr Redwood is an experienced and competent member of parliament. He has an impressive track record, stretching back decades, and substantial influence. Yet he supinely muses on what may be the factors that might influence ministerial decision making. His attitude strikes one as that of a young chid wondering about what their parents will decide on some incomprehensible family matter, rather than one of an influential parliamentarian, who believes parliament ought to be shaping public policy and rigorously holding the executive to account. The attitude of passivity revealed in his diary entry perhaps explains how the dysfunctional groupthink that is driving government decision making on the virus has been able to sustain itself. Such passivity has rendered parliament an irrelevance that has merely looked on whilst a cabal has captured policy making and imposed an authoritarian regime obsessed with a megalomaniacal desire to control nature. Instead of wondering when we might be allowed out of lockdown, members of parliament ought to be denouncing the deprivation of our rights and liberties, and Conservative members ought to be telling Number Ten that absent an immediate end to the madness they will be firing off letters to Graham Brady, triggering a leadership contest.

Redwood is scared of the virus.

He has never struck me as cowardly.

Bravery is a funny thing. My husband has military medals. He has flown under fire in war zones many times. Yet he won’t eat a yoghurt that is a week out of date.

Me, I have minimal fear of bacteria and viruses. But no way would I do his job.

Luckily he’s a bit corona blasé because I’ve convinced him of the facts. Though not as much as me.

Yes I’ve often thought that about the tone of his musings. He writes as though he has no influence even though surely he is a Tory Big Beast as a former leadership contender. Where’s the fire in his belly? It’s all a bit colourless.

He is determined not to be labelled a bastard anymore by shithouse John Major!

I’m sure he’s sharpening his knife on the quiet. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him.

Well he is a Tory!

If our wonderful government introduces mandatory quarantine for all UK arrivals, I’m assuming this will also apply to all those delegates arriving in June for the G7 summit in Cornwall?! What excuse will they roll out to provide them with exemptions…? Perhaps those arriving on private jets are incapable of transmitting the virus?

What about the Footie stars? You know the tight white short wearers dancing around in the Jan rain and snow, not wearing diapers, not distancing….zero have died across all leagues from CV 19. Zero. Yet they can bounce across borders for their UEFA etc etc and what? No isolation camps for the footie fairies. Have to keep the peasants entertained with bread and circuses. But if you and 5 friends went to the local park to play a kick-around…well, well, well, murderers, spreaders, fascists, drumpfers….etc.

And the peasants still follow football religiously as if it matters. There freedoms are being systematically removed but there more interested in their team’s Saturday formation. Pathetic.

Yes more worried if ‘their team’ wins, than about their world potentially ending….beggars belief, the level of apathy is off the charts. No debate allowed on a proper (Great Barrington) approach, just blindly follow the cult and its high priests.

The Fascists keep Football and Strictly, the mental cosh of the masses.

the opiate of the masses – the 4 “F”s (football, fosters, facebook and f*****g)

Those not already in a relationship before mockdown will struggle to meet people for the latter pursuit.

Yes; Panem et Circenses.

The football is important – described as our national religion, even the most hardened zealot must die a little bit inside every time he watches matches with no crowds, training ground atmosphere, and remembers how it should be.
Ask him ‘under what circs do you think you’ll be allowed to go to the match ever again’ and his cogs splutter slowly into life.

And who is doing their hair?

I think the tattoos offer complete immunity. Or taking the knee. Or having an IQ equal to your shoe size.

“Zero have died across all leagues…” Well, I’m not so sure about that. While you would expect the fit and healthy young men of the PL and its equivalent throughout the world to get over the virus with little more than minor symptoms, there have been some elite players who have suffered C-19 quite badly, including hospitalisation and being put in a coma. I have no idea about lower league footballers, but given that at NL level and below in the English football pyramid, many players are part-time, and many of those could well be in those jobs that are worst affected.

I enjoy watching football. I concede it’s a different game these days without spectators, but that has its entertainments, too, as I choose to watch without fake sounds of crowds, and you can hear almost every word shouted.

If that makes me a peasant, so be it.

Where I live, my team – doing quite well at the moment, thank you very much for asking – is in severe danger of not existing beyond this season, like most others in the same league. Perhaps those of you who follow lower league teams, or who have one in your town, could write to your MP to ask if they could prevail upon the DCMS to revert to the grant system for these clubs, rather than offer loans which could bankrupt them even sooner. Make sure to point out that the grant system would cost government far less than furloughing all these playing staff (given that most other non-playing staff have already been furloughed and could well be without jobs in the future).

And it was lovely to see Bayo again last night, even though he was on the losing side, with a result that massively flattered the winners.

Yes, it’s bread and circuses. But so is this site.

It will be the usual “rules for thee but not for me”

Hypocrites.

There is a very simple way to deal with O’Brien and his band of nutters

Ask them the question

WHAT IS THE FALSE POSITIVE RATE FOR THE PCR
TEST?

They will go off at a tangent with their hysteria about deaths and grannies

Ask the question again and again

The nearest thing I’ve seen to an answer is when JHB pinned Mandy to the wall and he replied “It’s low”

If he meant low in percentage terms at least we can agree on something

Dr Naomi Wolf just put this out: PCR Lab Visit: Whistleblowers Kevin McKernan, Bobby Malhotra Explain Why COVID Tests are “Garbage”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fznDgRHInM

Dr Naomi Wolf’s interview was really fascinating and very informative. Thanks.

I don’t think O’Brien and his band of nutters know the answer. They deal with slogans and emotion nothing else.

The majority of the population support lockdowns, and therefore support school closures.
Maybe, just maybe, some of them will think the price is too high as their kid’s education and mental health gets flushed down the toilet.
I doubt it, though. Being a virtue signaller makes you feel superior to humanity and common sense.

Child abuse and non science is now scientific and moral…..the Covidiots and their virus cult really are a sad sack of shite…..children now will be terrified of living a normal life.

A lot of people are just apathetic and stupid. They are ready to accept their new normal. It’s only took 11 months and in many cases less to re-condition them.

It’s not just virtue signalling. As they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

My family support lockdowns. Of course the collateral damage is my parents’ business and their grandchildren. But try telling them that they point out that they’re keeping the grandchildren safe and I’m the bad one for wanting people to die.

There’s no point trying to reason with people like that.

I sincerely hope they have very deep pockets especially my sister & brother-in-law. Because there will be hell to pay for them.

I don’t believe any of those polls. Skewed questions and skewed targets.
Also people are not honest but give what they think is the correct answer. As soon as they see their neighbours’ opinions begin to shift they start to say what they’re really thinking.

“ their kid’s education and mental health gets flushed down the toilet.” Absolutely. This.
I spoke to someone at Christmas who I know has young people of various ages in the education system; I pointed out that at the rate things are going, their entire future will involve digital education, taught by a digital assistant, with a break for some digital entertainment, looking at digital culture in a digital museum, having experiences with only virtual & digital friends, celebrating a digital birthday & digital Christmas…I think it gave them food for thought…

The only time in history when you don’t need a gun to start a revolution you just need to take off your mask.

Dr David Cook, above, is a splendid fellow but are these really uncontentious assumptions, as he contends?

‘1. COVID-19 is a serious new human disease.’

Not in my humble opinion. It is a new severe common cold coronavirus, of which there are a few (which are not regarded as serious diseases) as pointed out 06 Feb 2020 by a renowned global coronavirus expert present in China at the time of the outbreak.

(Prof John Nicholls phone call transcript, Accuweather 06 February)

‘2. Doing nothing in the face of this new disease and the resulting pandemic was not an option.’

Doing nothing was very much an option, because that is what we do in the face of the other endemic common cold coronaviruses, and, as events have shown, that was probably the best option, given how many lives have been and will be cut short by government interventions (evidenced by the Amnesty International Care Homes report)

‘3. COVID-19 hits older and more vulnerable individuals harder than younger, fitter individuals. As a result, the majority of deaths and serious illness are in the older, sicker population. This doesn’t mean that some younger or otherwise apparently healthy people can’t die or have significant illness, it is just a lot less common in this group.’

Okay. This is uncontentious, because it backs up what we already know about the common cold and common cold coronaviruses, have known about them for years.

‘Unexpectedly Higher Morbidity and Mortality of Hospitalized Elderly Patients Associated with Rhinovirus Compared with Influenza Virus Respiratory Tract Infection’
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5343795/ (Feb 2017)

‘More than just a common cold: Endemic coronaviruses OC43, HKU1, NL63, and 229E associated with severe acute respiratory infection and fatality cases among healthy adults’
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jmv.26362

yes. doing nothing is always the default best option until you know more. lockdown was a panic

A panic indeed; cause and effect needs to be established by a public inquiry.

Was the panic caused by Imperial College models or were these simply a useful tool to disguise the real cause of panic: a cave in to pressure from the continent; not very Churchillian!

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/22/france-border-coronavirus-uk-141402

Panic based on fake models, fake tests, and flawed dead counts. 2020 was not the worst year ever, not even close for dead counts/1000. Quite normal and within the past 20 year average.

Every year 85 – 90 K will die in the UK from flu-pneum-resp issues. We had maybe 70 K in 2020 with/from CV 19 + 60K from flu-pneu-resp for 130 K.

So yes a bad year for flu esp for >75 yr olds with conditions. That ‘excess’ of maybe 40 K is now offset by the 45 K or so who have died from the LDs. You never see such analysis in the fake news or in the useless gov’t. In other words, we are now killing more people than who are dying from virus related deaths.

Lockdown was also supposed to be temporary! Yet now we are in an impossible situation, the deranged scientists have convinced the megalomaniac politicians that they can ‘do what’s never been done’ and control this year’s common cold virus and we all suffer.
The one thing they could have done and criminally failed to do was to put research money and efforts into developing effective treatments for serious covid. It is now clear that much more could have been done to get such treatments up and running. If anyone has blood on their hands it is those that put all the efforts into dodgy vaccines and ignored life saving treatments.

I totally agree but I can forgive the initial 3 weeks of panic. What I can’t forgive is not seeing the reality of this disease and getting back to normal straight after that.
Most of us complied at first but we were wrong to do so and somehow, I have no idea how, when this is over we need to make sure that a healthy population can never be locked down again for such a relatively mild disease. Ebola it ain’t but it feels as if some people think it is.

nobody should be locked down even for ebola. human rights should be inviolable. if you can’t live free then it’s not really worth living at all.

Agree

Too defensive

He also talks about the “need for NPIs reducing”

I had problems with some of Cook’s statements!

“We are going to have to build more prisons if we are going to detain the rioters and dissenters without trial”

“How are we going to get away with that, if they get a whiff of what we are doing they may decide to get their retaliation in first”

“Yes, and we will need to build them right across the country it’s not as if we could hide what we are doing”

“Ideas anyone?”

“What if we call them isolation hotels? What if we say that they are are only for the selfish bastards who left the country and want to return”

“Who’s going to fund this?”

“Make the inmates pay, after all they are hotels aren’t they?”

Laughs all around

£1,500 for ten days in an hotel is appalling. It’s also deliberate. Boris is seeking to destroy the UK.

A new community case of C-19 in NZ. A woman returned from Europe having passed 2 tests in isolation facility .After discharge developed mild symptoms and pos with the South African variant .Did she contract it in Europe or at the isolation facility? Lots of community testing now in the locality.This in an isolated country with currently no other cases outside isolation facility.

How do you think Priti Patel is going to succeed with NZ like isolation facility for UK for returning passengers to UK with hundred thousands person with the virus already outside the isolation hotels?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/435163/covid-19-updates-from-new-zealand-on-25-january

The Minister in charge of the Covid-19 Response, Chris Hipkins, said genome testing showed the strain was the South African variant

How do they know it’s the South African variant when the virus has NEVER been isolated. The genes they are finding could be from other fragments within the sample. They haven’t got a clue and they are perpetuating a lie for profit as far as I can see – and a narrative which is destroying the UK and every other country.

The virus have been isolated.

Has it? News to me. Do you have a link pls?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/

The virus is not a hoax.It exists. The problem is the PCR methods used to easy diagnose cases is a mess and not suitable for mass screening.

I didn’t say it was a hoax.

I do. it’s a hoax.

I’d say that mockdown is the hoax. The virus does exist but its severity has been ridiculously exaggerated as a means to an end.

According to the CDC it hasn’t, and according to the Irish government, it hasn’t – please share a link to that if it has.

Don’t be silly Sars-Cov2 is bog standard beta coronavirus.
Coronaviruses exist

I didn’t say they didn’t. I said they hadn’t been isolated.

It has been cultured in Brazil, South Korea, Netherlands and Japan. You are confusing the thing with PCR testing. You don’t need the actual live cultured virus to do the PCR test as you can select part of the genome to do the PCR test. The biggest acute problem now is that the PCR test most in use,The Drosten PCR test, is so flawed and bad and should not be used, at least not in mass testing. There are better tests combined, to use in hospitalized cases, which are the most important to diagnose correctly.

Cultured from what? was it isolated, purified, and then re-infected? If not, then it still hasn’t followed Koch’s Postulate, and cannot be said to be identified.

Eve if ‘it’ has been isolated, how is it known that that which has been isolated is causing a unique disease, to which we give the name ‘covid-19’

Who knows. However, the process that is the gold standard to these charlatans, hasn’t even been followed. And, as far as I’m aware, no virus ever has been. Germ theory is a load of tosh. Terrain theory most likely. Viruses aren’t living matter. It’s an immune response of the body disposing toxins. Akin to soap scum, if you like. Dr Stefan Lanka has done great work in this field.

I don’t think so. I think there is still a £10,000 reward for isolating Sars-cov2 virus. There used to be a reward for isolating HIV. Not sure if that was ever claimed.

Quarantine is a zero Covid policy. While it might be an option to buy time with a novel Coronavirus that is no longer the case . These are just new variants to which , if you’ve had Covid you will be immune so have zero or mild infection; if you haven’t then the new variant is as likely to kill you as the old one which isn’t much. These variants are always going to keep ahead of any vaccine. With ivermectin and HCQ/Zinc and vitamin D there has long been no need for any except the extremely frail or sick to die.

After civil disobedience in Italy, Poland and the Czech Republic now comes rioting in the Netherlands.

Which is surprising in one way because I half expected it would have been the Italians and Poles to riot not the Dutch. That said the Dutch did have to put up with 5 years of brutal German occupation during World War 2.

The riots are another warning shot fired by ordinary people fed up with their lives going down the toilet and their freedoms taken away. All while the lockdowinstas continue to enjoy their pampered lifestyles.

These riots will not go away and will get uglier if TPTB don’t listen to their people. The day of reckoning is coming.

WAKEY, WAKEY!!!!

Bart, unless Brits stop complying in large numbers, what happens in the rest of Europe won’t be a help to us. I’d like to see Brits take to the streets, stop complying with masks, open their businesses. But I doubt it will happen.

Part of me doubts too but one never knows. The worm will have to turn at some point.

I hope so

It will never happen. The fight is no longer there, the population has been brainwashed , lied to and now controlled into complete submission. If 100 000 of us showed up there would be no riot police that could stop this..but it wont. people have too good, here slaves here is 10 mores seasons of Dancing with wankers nad Ice skating with parasites..that is all that matters to the public. I have lost faith in the Bristis people long ago, now all they are waiting is for more oppressions and more lockdowns. What is the point of going on…BTW…Just heard yesterday that an old army buddy of mine committed suicide. His business went down the pan , he lost all his lives savings so he went to his old workshop and hanged himself. At least it’s over for him. I’m sad to say I’m actually jealous.

He didn’t kill himself. He was murdered by this insane government and the cabal pulling at their strings. Do NOT feel jealous. Feel rage, towards those who murdered him. Anyone who has lost their life because of this monstrous agenda is a murder victim, however they lost their life, but especially if they were driven to suicide. I’m so sorry for your loss.

People with no means to feed themselves or their family will riot. The government are backing an obedient compliant population into a corner.

Agree. When they have lost everything, they will think they have nothing to lose by rioting.

Thank you to those who have contributed to the comments section so far today. Thus fortified I raise my weary body to do some home schooling this morning and deliver lunch and shopping bags to the vulnerable later this afternoon before walking my mum’s dog.

So, whether from Tenby or Stoke on Trent, Ashby or Aberdeen . . . Have a good day, make a difference and will see you all later. Diolch

Time’s running out Bozo. Tick tock, tick tock.
https://twitter.com/timesuppeople/status/1353496720458452993

Denmark. Anti Lockdown. More image’s coming in, stunning would be an understatement. These scenes make my heart sing. Long Live the People.

Anything past March when the normal flu season is over, and the sheeple need to rebel. Otherwise you might find yourself permanently locked down.

Sadly this footage could be anywhere and anytime.

Suspicious that not a single mask in evidence.

Let’s hope it is genuine.

Someone commented it happened on the 23rd Jan

Fear not. It’s genuine.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20210124/five-arrested-after-anti-lockdown-demo-in-danish-capital

The usual hilarious reporting. After a peaceful start, “demonstrators turned violent” when they were attacked by riot police.

Well done to that schoolgirl in Keswick, Cumbria. Brilliant!!!!

Clearly a well parented, well rounded young person. I sincerely hopes she gets her wish soon.

She will likely be arrested before she goes back to school….you know ‘spreading, murdering, not following the rules’…etc.

Yep granny killer.

And a great grandmother killer as well.

Hear hear

I was waiting for someone to actually do this. Home pseudo school strike to go back to real face to face school.

On the one hand, maybe…

On the other hand…. protesting for the right to be sat in a classroom being fed nonsense by a semi-literate fat woman with a hairy lip doesn’t seem very bright to me.

especially with all the trans, sjw, EU, BLM, propoganda, as well as the completely inappropriate sexual health education.

That’s all that’s on offer unfortunately, poor girl. Still, better for the development of her immune system to be mixing.

A factory job it is then….

Patel really is an authoritarian of dangerous proportions. Maybe she should do her job and keep the illegals out of the country before letting her authoritarian fantasies out to the media.

Locking people up for weeks in a hotel room and making them pay for the priviIege is evil. Shutting Primary schools is evil. Some Dutch courage might be the only way out of this. The authoritarians are flying kites they wouldn’t have dared to do last year.

I can’t tell you how much I now despise that woman, who is my MP unfortunately. I could not be more ashamed of myself for having supported her and voted for her. Well, it seems you’re never too old to learn but it’s a bitter lesson. Conservative? My ****! None of this government could be described as Conservative.

She’s a witch!

She’s a termagant!

???????????

There’s a word I’ve not heard in a while… and yeah, she fits the definition nicely.

She still foxy though

Foxy???? Eye of the beholder etc!

On the contrary, I know some very nice witches!

what I don’t understand is why the illegals are still coming? can they really come up with no better dream than to live under house arrest in a poky flat while being used for medical experimentation? I guess they are not told this, so like everyone else, they are being deceived and abused – should have remembered the old Russian proverb about the only place you get free cheese is in a mousetrap

Angry today, reflected on today’s boards:

Britain 2021

NO Parliamentary Scrutiny;
Probably NO elections;
NO e-petitions.
=
Dictatorship

Still think this is about a virus?

NB: Been to Tesco’s, no problem other than self-checkout guard having kittens over me touching two carrier bags. And, petrol prices have shot up – as was commented yesterday.

Sorry if this been posted earlier – 1 in 5 now not working. Thanks the party of “business” and thank you the so called party of the working man doing a sterling job in opposition !

utter bell-ends. Where is the Reform Party-we bloody need you !

https://order-order.com/2021/01/26/ons-data-shows-1-in-4-adults-workless/#comments

Universities have been largely closed since March and continue to be so. Let it not be forgotten. It is hardly discussed

Please stop calling the PM “Boris”.

David Cook (piece ATL) is too defensive – talks about the “need for NPIs”, “doing nothing not an option” and how “serious” covid is (yes, it is serious but nothing like as serious as it has been portrayed) and calls these “uncontentious assumptions”

Too many links to wishy washy MSM articles and not enough basic restatement of our case

Yep – Bozo is the correct designation.

Yeah the David Cook article is very poor indeed. Its as sceptic lite as they come.

Julian said Please stop calling the PM “Boris”.

I call him the Prime Mountebank.

But there are so many.

I see what you mean, but actually have a different perspective. Whether it was deliberate I don’t know, but I think by conceding on some of the less important points (and by starting off with some sort of agreement) it strengthens the main points. It comes back to the thing that was being discussed a couple of weeks ago, i.e. how to argue the case with a zealot. If you go in guns blazing and criticise everything, it never goes anywhere. The way he has written it, no one can say (for instance) “how can you say do nothing when people are dying”. It just eliminates the less important arguments that someone could jump on. I actually thought it was good

I see Biden has removed Churchill from the Oval Office, whilst Bozo says there is nothing wrong with being woke. Two cheeks of the same ass!

https://www.ft.com/content/e8a781ca-449a-4dfc-befc-389c30ec2d14?segmentId=c841d669-8dab-e460-26f0-30ea79c2a1d0

That blasted Churchill bust has been in and out of there like a yoyo for years. And still the same inane conversation continues. THERE IS NO SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP.

Well said. The UK government should forget about the “Special Relationship” because there is nothing of the sort. We’re better off following the Palmerstonian dictum that there are no permanent friends or enemies only permanent interests.

The sight of Johnson toadying to Biden is excruciatingly painful.

As far as I’m aware, the ‘special’ relationship revolves entirely around the debt we owe them.

If America is opening up, see the above article, will the UK follow? ,The article seemed very upbeat..

Yes apparently California and new York to open up. Both Democratic strongholds. All thanks to 46 saving them from the virus. Huzzah!!

“Special relationship” is just one of the standard topics of space-filling lazy journalism which pops up after every US election. Like “Dry January” or “New year, new you” every January, or “Should we keep the clocks permanently on British Summer Time?” every October, or “NHS overwhelmed” every winter.

Our “Conservative” Party is best regarded as politically broadly equivalent to US Democrats.

The Alex Norton article in the news update about the value to stop importing the variant vaccine resistant strain while vaccinating the UK population must have the price of the most idiotic contribution.

Doesn’t he realize that there are millions of virus infected people round the world and the vast majority never sequenced? UK is full of virus infected person and the virus mutates all the time. These variants are most likely here already. It is like the UK variant earlier. The countries in Europe starting sequencing found that they already had it. This is madness to think that the disastrous policy of stopping now an endemic virus with more lockdown would be more effective.

I am just reposting a comment I did yesterday that UK might become the biggest producer of vaccine resistant strains

“There is some irony here.UK being extra vigilant for importing vaccine resistant strains and closing borders. But, according to the BMA article below, might be the prime country in the world giving 5 million doses as single, and potentially the biggest producer of resistant strains in the world due to suboptimal immunity.

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/20/revisiting-the-uks-strategy-for-delaying-the-second-dose-of-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

“the risk it raises, from a population perspective, of enhancing virus “escape mutations” associated with suboptimal immunity, which could have potentially severe consequences, including nullifying vaccine efficacy.”

I see it not as a virus problem but as a sustainable planet plan.

Some wannabe Fergusons are getting together. God help us.

Martin Kulldorff on Twitter: “Lockdowners @DrEricDing, @tomaspueyo and @yaneerbaryam are organizing a #ZeroCOVID summit. At the scientific level of anti-vaxxers, they have caused much more harm, with enormous collateral public health damage. 1/2 https://t.co/2Xh9j8g1fN ” / Twitter

Cunts!

Harsh! But on the other hand, fair.

Why is Johnson standing grinning like the village idiot on that photo of an empty class? Why are the sheep cheering at having their country locked up while the mega rich who are saving the planet, don’t you know, jet around the world on their private jets.Pol P Johnson and Handpuppet and their sustainable planet globalist trousering friends are taking us to ground zero, where we will have nothing but be happy, Build Back Better ETC, as long as its not them.

Why on earth do the lead writers on this site (ie those above the line not those in the comments) persist in using ‘Boris’ to describe our ghastly dictator. Who else calls their enemy by some matey nickname? I think it undermines the credibility of this site. It makes it sound like its some minor disagreement like Brexit rather then the paralysing by fear and then oppression backed by a police state of its people.

Does anyone else get sick of this mateyness?

Yes, agree

As Hitchens points out, it’s not his actual first name and apparently not even what his friends and family call him – it is used to make him appear cuddly

I would like to cuddle him with some barbed wire.

It’s Al, apparently.

I’m guilty of that myself. I think I prefer “the current PM” just to emphasise the temporary nature of his position.

kemAl Fatterturk

you hope it’s temporary. what’s to stop them abolishing elections ‘cos covid’

Why bother with elections? Dominion can fix any election the way the globalist filth wants them to go

Pig Dictator, fat fuck, child abuser, take your pick

Agree. It is important that we use the surnames for all these morons. We also need to call all the vaccines ‘experimental’ and refer to the scientists by reference to their supposed expertise (Prof Sridhar, social anthropologist; Prof Michie, behavioural psychologist; Prof Ferguson, physicist and mathematical modeler).

Yes, absolutely. We’ve discussed this before before but it needs to be reinforced regularly as long as the persist.

It’s laziness on the part of the writers basically. He’s Johnson, not “Boris”. If you really, really need to save two characters for a headline, put some effort into thinking about it and find other way, rather than pandering to the scumbag’s self-promoting cuddly nickname for himself.

Yes, I agree and am beyond sick and tired of so many referring to Johnson as ‘Boris’, which is not something we have seen with prime ministers in the recent past. If you really must use a nickname, then surely ‘Bozo’ is the more appropriate name for the clown he is.

To mr, ‘Boris’ isn’t matey, it evokes the monster in Men in Black 3.

I wish I was sure they mean it in that way…somehow I doubt it. I think there is a problem here in that the top end of the sceptics do see things in that matey way. On his recent podcast with Brendan O’Neil Peter Hitchens emphasised how he thought the govt and scientific advisors were acting in the best of intentions. Sorry but it does not look like that to those lower down the scale. I see them as utter shits motivated by evil and I think that more every day that this carnage carries on.

If lockdown is to “Save the NHS” I think it’s reasonable to say the NHS “has blood on its hands” .

A mother of a disabled boy has a lockdown-induced mental breakdown and suffocates him.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/25/mother-admits-killing-disabled-son-10-struggling-care-lockdown/?li_source=LI&li_medium=amp-pages-1

//Of course lockdown is not to save the NHS. The most important article on Sceptics today is the ‘And finally’ entry about DAVOS and the Great Reset.

As a brand the NHS is becoming toxic, one cannot help but wonder if that is by design. As a political football the NHS has been almost untouchable, despite this the private sector now delivers a fair bit under the publics radar. You can see criticism being levelled at the NHS in the analysis and public enquiries that will follow, branding the model as failed and needing a new solution……..

With the amount of money spent on the “measures”, every person could have been given private health insurance or the similar European style health systems. Waiting list ops could have been carried out at private hospitals if people so wished, the NHS would be in a better position than it has ever been. This is not a comment about NHS v Private just an observation. The NHS has blood on its hands for all the cancelled treatments and for discharging so many to care homes on the say so of the government and PHE.

I feel so sorry for parents with children with special needs – prior to this ‘shitshow’ these parents got help from schools, organisations, extra carers etc, now just nothing

Open The Schools

Alas, this is the direct result of the proliferation if the nuclear family, as well the destruction of affordable housing, compelling people to move further and further away from their families and communities, further leaving them dependant on the state.

Dr David Cook, another article today, is a quisling.

Quisling is a bit strong but it shows how hard it is for anyone to think outside the false frame of reference that has been created

Might be a good subject for a book ‘The Wisdom of Doing Nothing’ as there does seem to be so many areas where doing nothing works best.

Actually thought the article was quite well argued, despite the fact that the ‘do nothing’ assumption should be challenged.

Do nothing is the rational default position, as doing something inevitably has costs: therefore any action, to be rational, must provide greater benefits than the costs,

I recall a discussion a few months ago between Ivor Cummins and John Lee in which the latter made the observation that it takes a brave and competent doctor to make the decision to “do nothing or just wait and see…” whereas in reality many doctors take the easy option of prescribing medication or performing an operation even though these are not necessarily in the interests of the patient. The pressure comes where the doctors themselves doubt their own judgement or are simply unable to make that judgement call, and recognise that there is less likelihood of criticism by being seen to do something even when it isn’t beneficial and can indeed be detrimental.

It strikes me that this is what we have witnessed with Vallance and Whitty but as time has gone on they have dug a deeper and deeper hole for themselves.

One of my work colleagues many years ago was a lazy sod, who did as little as he could get away with and said that in most cases if you did nothing the need would eventually go away. Actually he did have a point, though another thing that would have happened eventually would have been getting sacked – he left the company before this happened, and probably behaved similarly in his next job. But I do agree that doing nothing should be one of the options on the table in many situations.

Interesting to read the Sebastian Rushworth stuff on antobody testing in Sweden.
Here’s the UK data.
Some questions that one of our readers deep in the weeds can answer:

1. On 4th June 42,899 antibody tests were conducted. On 24th Jan 571 such tests were conducted. Why have we so dramatically reduced this testing?
2. Are the results of these tests published anywhere?

Antibody testing probably doesn’t give the govt and SAGE what they want or need to suit their political purposes

Yes the Sebastian Rushworth article and antibody data for Sweden was interesting. It has always been an open question about the relative importance of herd immunity vs seasonality in causing the epidemic curve to turning in the Spring of 2020.

Did you see this ONS publication?

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey: antibody data for the UK, January 2021

https://www.ons.gov.uk/releases/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyantibodydatafortheukjanuary2021

Quarantining people in hotels like the Nazi styled Quarantine camps in New Zealand will not prevent the virus from mutating. Watch NZ and Aus get them when they eventually open up. Just another part of the whole scam.

Yes, that’s true, and unless Boris is also going to ban all imports, the virus can get in through the ports anyway. People keep on saying that Australia and New Zealand have “beaten” the virus – no they haven’t, they’ve only delayed herd immunity.

Governments are always looking for someone/something else to attribute blame to without looking closer at themselves and the futile attempts to control something which they will never be able to control.

The idea of “futile attempts” still gives credence to the idea that that is what they are trying to do. The plan was always to crash the economy, and it was never about a virus – that’s my conclusion after a year. They want a financial reset, and the virus is the excuse.

Time for a worldwide debt Jubilee methinks. Something that should have been granted to the developing nation decades ago, and scandalously hasn’t. After all, the bastards owed the money, just printed it up out of thin air and then charging us interest on it. Clean the slate. Distribution of currency inside the country, and trade on an equal footing out. UK Column have spoken for years about Bradbury pound. Currency will be controlled by the people

NZ already has one today. The so-called “South African” variant has magically appeared. Remember when you weren’t allowed to name a virus after a place because it was insulting? Oh, sorry, right – that only applied to Wuhan.

don’t upset the commies in China because they are evil murdering scum and they’ll come for you if you say anything

Viruses mutate all the time and the sooner we get exposed to them the better for our health/immune system.

Message to all government advisers: You cannot stop a virus

Quite

A new group of experts has been set up

I feel safer already. Where would we be without self appointed fence-sitting middle-class academics and their ‘groups’/’committees’/’declarations’/’reports’/’blogs’ ?
Reassuring also that the Tories’ own Silvikrin Girl is worried about the education of working class kids, gawd bless ‘er. . I need to wipe away the tears of deep welling emotion.
Now let’s get back to arguing about graphs while another 2,000+ more lifetimes are effectively binned today by this incompetent frit government’s lockdown.

“As a reminder, there is no law stopping schools opening. There is no health and safety law stopping them opening.It is a policy decision by Heads and local authorities. By contrast, Education Act 1996 s13 provides a positive duty to provide efficient education” (Source: https://threader.app/thread/1353811552835497984 )

I home educated my three younger children and had to prove to the Offsted inspector – sent once a year – that I was providing an education ‘suitable to their age, ability and aptitude.’
Along with their academic studies I had to demonstrate that they had sufficient social interaction with their peers, physical education, etc.
Staring at a screen for hours every day cannot by any definition constitute such a ‘suitable’ education. Are any of the back to school pressure groups using the Act in any way? Would it be possible to make a case against an LEA for refusing provision?

I have spent the weekend at my sons, don’t rat on me please!. Seriously though, I feel so sorry for my teenage grandson and think back to his dad at the same age. He should be out doing what kids do, finding his feet in the world and occasionally getting up to no good. The ‘schooling’ is virtually none existent, he is quite a bright kid but what about those who need more help?. The whole thing disgusts me when it is all being done based on lies, kids are at virtually no risk and teachers no more than Susan in the local Tesco.

Someone on here yesterday said something that was simple but profound. Since when has a pandemic needed a marketing campaign?. We on here know the answer to that, but unfortunately too many numpties don’t see what is happening in plain sight now. I’m going home today after being snowed in, feeling quite down and not looking forward to the usual arguments with my head in the sand husband. Wish me luck!.

“Since when has a pandemic needed a marketing campaign?”

Nice.

Your husband is a coward, call him a fucking tosser from me. Tell him you won’t fuck him any more because you like men not fucking cowards

I find you to be utterly revolting. If we’re dependent on people like you to argue our case then it’s no wonder we’re on the backfoot. Fuckin this, fucking that… it doesn’t make you any tougher in text than you might be in real life.

Biker is always forthright in his way ,good on him, But if that head in the sand bloke cant’ see thru this shite by now ??

I see no evidence in Hellonearth’s initial comment to suggest her husband is a coward. What prompted such a venomous attack on the bloke from Biker?

And if the attack was pointed at her grandson’s dad, again, where is the evidence he is a coward?

The VERY last thing we need is division. We need to understand that the goal of the government is to isolate us, and alienate us from one another which makes us more vulnerable.

How do we not sow division though? If one side is not willing to listen how do we get through to them. Whilst in the comfort of their own ivory tower they don’t care about the trail of destruction. If we don’t call them cowards what do we call them. Idiots/ brainwashed/ deluded/ ignorant?

If Hellonearth had said her husband was denying her grandson his freedoms via this lockdown lunacy, I might have some understanding for Biker’s fucking attack.

If this attack was intended for the boy’s dad, there still lacks enough evidence to support calling him a coward. Can you quote anything from the original comment to support this attack?

It is Bikers way and I didn’t take offence, thank you anyway if you felt that I would have been and came to my defence. My son is completely in my sceptic camp, this is great when we are together and can let rip at all the idiocy and lies. My husband is just not prepared to believe our government would deliberately ruin the country!. At the same time he had no issues with me breaking the ‘rules’ and travelling to another household.

Could biker be conflating hellonearth with HellzBellz, who also has an unempathetic husband?

Just sayin’…..

J4mes diplomatically well speaking journalists and politicians have got us in this mess. There is a cowardice in this population that is being coerced and manipulated into slavery. It may require some epithets and aggression to wake them up.

I think you miss the point. This tough guy, Biker, is inexplicably attacking this person’s husband who doesn’t even factor into her original comment.

That wasn’t what you said?

I have further clarified my position. Can you substantiate your defence of Biker?

If you’re lucky,you might get a reply from that naughty Biker….oh I hope you do…….

So do I. I expect he’ll probably call me a fucking idiot with a few other insults in there for good measure.

Propoganda has always been used to sell an agenda. I was 12yrs old when the monstrous “babies thrown from the incubator” saturation news coverage, and the thing that struck me, (and started me down the rabbit-hole) at the time, was that Saatchi&Saatchi was paid by the UK government for managing the media. But then again, we still had real journalists back then. But for myself personally, I’ve never trusted the “news”, or anything else, on face-value since.

Was that propaganda in relation to Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait?

Yes

At our local school 70% of children are at school (key worker children) and the other 30% stays at home and are socially and educationally excluded.

Open The Schools

Children follow the example from the schoolgirl above

Your spirit is magnificent.

Thanks Annie. I don’t always feel that way but try to keep fighting the lies and will not stop seeing those that I love.

I salute you and feel even more determined to visit son and d-i-l when their twins are due to be born next week.
Almost despaired at Wancock’s assertion of the illegality of leaving the house. That tosser will not take this moment from me. I’ll pay the damn fine if I have to.
You will have been a comfort to your son and grandson.

Must say I have only skimmed the articles on the main page today, they are getting less LS day by day though obviously they have a narrow margin in what can be said to stop the site being taken down. Now off to dentist….

Yes, getting rather repetitive and boring; stunning too that the evidence against Lockdown is now so extensive – and so completely ignored by our fatuous and Fascist government!

I think they realise that nothing has worked and nothing is going to so I believe the tone is now one of acceptance that HMS Lockdown is on a course that will not be veered off regardless of how many arguments are made that lockdowns do not work . It is understandable and I don’t criticise them for that but the main thrust should now be obtaining a proper normal in the future and NOT one tethered to being permanently fearful of a disease that is not particurlarly harmful to the vast majority.

I think the daily update is getting too big -what with all the main features and the links , you could spend hours on it. Sometimes more is less.

“Like you all, I too am a victim….of the malign & extended effects of policy for which there is no evidence. You’re entirely free to ignore everything I write. So how critics believe me asking questions leads to deaths seems to me to irrational & causes me to question their motives.”(Source: https://threader.app/thread/1353651415982481411 )

In March Ferguson predicted 800 deaths from covid in our village

Still waiting for our first one

I still don’t know anyone who’s had it.

Our local Ferguson predicted 4,000 in our town of 150,000. We had 100. Nobody under 60 years of age.

This guy shamed local businesses into closing claims credit for acting early and saving so many lives.

Ferguson shamed nobody into closing, the Tory’s lockdown legislation forced them into it. Ferguson is not the executive government, just a long discredited advisor who is not very good at maths. .

I think Ferguson is probably OK at maths and works with people who are excellent mathematicians. What he’s unable to do is objectively assess his own assumptions and how his beliefs and opinions influence them and consequently his models. It is also clear that his modelling is inextricably linked with his ego which means that he can never admit to them being even slightly flawed. He also loves to feed that ego in the press and every pronouncement of doom he makes puts further pressure on the government. Of course the government could quite easily deal with that but they seem quite happy with it. They are all accountable.

A degree in physics does not make a good data scientist.

100% agree. My point is that Fergusons problem is not that he can’t do maths. Mathematics is just the engineering in his models. His failure is in the assumptions he makes, which data he choses to use or ignore, how he choses to interpret that data within the model, etc. His models are projection on top of inference on top of assumption. He then compounds this by implying or at the very least letting it be misinterpreted that the results are virtually fact by referring to it as a “reasonable” scenario. It doesn’t matter whether he puts a “this is not a prediction” disclaimer on everything he does he knows every model and pronouncement he makes has a direct influence on policy and people’s lives and livelihoods.

Yes, agreed. Maybe his background in theoretical physics is the problem. In theoretical physics, you are often dreaming up whacky theories that fit patchy data, then contorting maths/models to fit. He has normalised that and is applying that process everywhere. Sounds like he got taught some skills in his education that he didn’t fully understand the limit of – bit of a mad scientist?

Not to mention that he could play like that without significant real world implications. Now every time he choses to round a number up or down can affect whether someone gets their cancer treatment or not.

Just wait two more weeks.

Ask for your money back.

The police tribunal in Brussels issued a judgment on 12 January acquitting a man summoned for non-wearing of a mask, according to his lawyer, Hélène Alexandris. The judge concluded that the enforced wearing of the mask in public space was unconstitutional. Interior Minister Annelies Verlinden said the public prosecutor has appealed against the decision.

https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2021/01/25/enforced-wearing-of-masks-declared-unconstitutional/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

let’s hope for dozens, nay hundreds of similar decisions in countries where not every judge is a poodle.

Someone posted this graph from NHS England in Going Postal yesterday showing deaths in the 80+ age group.

It does seem to show an increase in trend immediately after vaccine rollout and follows the news from Gibraltar.

Arguing using graphs to attempt to prove or disprove a phantom virus has done absolutely nothing to stop the advancement of this communist nightmare.

What was the news from Gibraltar?

A large spike in deaths after the vaccine started being administered they had gone until the 11th November until the first death then 16 total up until the vaccination started

Hopefully someone can collate more data for other countries as well but we must remember that correlation doesn’t equal causation. Gibraltar should be starting it’s second doses on Sunday it will be interesting to see if another spike occurs and what they will do as they are due to start easing lockdown next week.

Isreal would be an interesting one as well.

Worldometer deaths: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/gibraltar/

Could be difficult to prove despite appearing obviously something to do with the arrival of vaccine (I doubt Gibraltar has doses available the very first day of 8 December)

(Vaccination only started ‘3 days’ before 12 January : https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-releases/day-3-of-the-gibraltars-covid-19-vaccination-programme-462021-6588

https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-releases/arrival-of-covid-19-vaccine-in-gibraltar-302021-6573 )

I often wake up to the sound of the radio. LBC to be precise, but I only listen for about 5 minutes at most, as that is all I can stomach. Nick Ferrari seems so pathetic now. These days when I listen to a talk show, it’s almost exclusively Youtube or TalkRadio. Anyway, does anyone get the feeling that EVERY time they tune into the mainstream radio (or the news etc) that almost every discussion feels.. hollow and pointless? Like for example, should we wear one mask or two… discussing variants… the latest quarantine measures… this that and the other. Everything feels utterly pointless, like an alternate universe where all of these talking points matter – but they don’t, because they’re all bollocks and founded on hokey made up science. You’d have more accuracy consulting an Ouija board. It seems rare to find a discussion about the actual reality of this situation, and when they do come along it’s ALWAYS interlaced with ‘because of the pandemic’ and ‘because of coronavirus’ and never ‘because of the government’ etc.

Nearly one year on and we’re still taping up benches…
Police saying ‘you’re killing people!’ to people in a park…
Still ignoring reality and embracing this new religion..

Just put me on Elon Musk’s mars mission.

yup that’s why i don’t listen to the radio/media – it’s an echo chamber of repeated rubbish by one so called expert or another. Actually I tried classic fm yesterday and then the news came on and the off button was swiftly hit. CDs and other music generally.

I’m listening to Scala radio atm. News isn’t so MSM driven. Fewer irritating ppe adds!

I hate that radio ad that says “We are going through the biggest health crisis of our generation”. When ever I hear it I shout at it and say “NO, we are living through the biggest government fuck up of our time”.

I listen to Fip, its in French, I don’t speak French so its bliss

Makes you wonder if they are stringing the narrative along to keep themselves in a job or the limelight.

The MSM could end this overnight but choose not to whether by cowardice, coercion or evil.

With everybody trapped indoors they have a captive audience.

Doom sells from a MSM point of view no more brexit and no more trump to use now .

Yes, don’t underestimate the massive gap in MSM airtime left by Trump’s demise. For the last four years they have had daily two-minutes-hate against Trump and now – nothing. There will be a short love-in with Biden and then he will be largely ignored, particularly if things start to go badly wrong in the USA.

The tactic of diverting discussion away from “should there be a lockdown or not?” and into “should you wear a mask or a visor or a mask and a visor or a gas mask or a Venetian carnival mask or a plastic bag secured around your neck with an elastic band?” has been extraordinarily effective in shutting down all debate of the important stuff, cementing their desired narrative and fragmenting people’s minds with unimportant twaddle. The same, really, goes for all the graphs and stats. Even if the worst-case graphs and stats are correct (which they obviously aren’t), lockdown is STILL wrong, disastrous and hellishly counterproductive. It’s as simple as that.

We have been distracted to death.

It’s pretty much like that talking to anybody who is a non-sceptic also (ie, most people). At best you get a shrug and a ‘well, what can you do?’

“We are in unprecedented times. Not because of the deadliest virus known to mankind, but because we have never been attacked with such ferocious psychological methods as is deliberately being done today by our UK and Scottish governments; measures to coerce us, manipulate us, to scare us, to shame us, and to make us shame other people for not following orders pertaining to COVID–19 measures.

We have been warned previously by many who suffered totalitarian communism in Eastern Europe. We were warned for many decades that such a moment would come to the West if we were not vigilant enough; unfortunately, it seems that our watchfulness has failed and our liberty has been stolen….

In our COVID–19 Brave New Normal, let us not ignore the warnings of the past and the historical events through which totalitarian regimes came to flourish. A totalitarian medical technocracy is now being forced upon us. Let us be courageous, let us be brave. We have to do this for our children and grandchildren. If we do not, they will never forgive us and we will never be able to forgive ourselves.”

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/psychological-attack-uk

Not that many are being coerced, its mainly because there’s actually no where to go. Businesses have been the main culprit despite the ‘fines’ not reaching court for obvious reasons.

Only a matter of time before we start talking about ‘hard’ lockdowns and ‘soft’ lockdowns.

Yes, this is what we get when we have scientifically illiterate politicians “leading” scientifically illiterate people. (I’ve come to realise that the vast majority of people simply don’t understand science. I have a science background and worked on electron microscopes so I understand small. They just don’t understand that you cannot stop something that is very very small and extremely numerous, you just have to live with it).

Listening to politicians and their expert advisers (not to mention the so called journalists) talking about the virus as though it is alive, sentient, has emotions and intentions, tactics and can execute plans would be hilarious if it were satire.

Also known as “Tiers”

Collation of material

https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/evidence-of-genocide-coronavirus-pcr-testing/?fbclid=IwAR0vQ2Ylxx1sa91MR0vD6IG1ByrfWJfOOlzGJG0p4oM0uhsq9gUpswltWws

Another day another streamed concert.

While our orchestras have been forcibly silenced yet again those abroad have been carrying on even behind closed doors.

Last night Mr Bart & I watched the Bavarian State Orchestra conducted by Zubin Mehta and featuring Finnish soprano Camilla Nylund.

Not much social distancing (1 metre tops) and Mehta at 85 years old shows he ain’t afraid of no virus by shaking hands with Nylund at the end and even gallantly kissing her hand while the rest of the orchestra applauded.

Compare and contrast this with our spineless orchestras with their slavish adherence to the absurd 2 metre rule and swerving like crazy.

Ming the Merciless couldn’t have been more apt:

Was that Strauss’ Four Last Songs? I’m sorry I missed that. Although the concept of the virtual concert hall does stick in my craw, I’m feeling quite starved. (To be fair, Bangkok isn’t exactly a hotbed of western classical music concerts at the best of times. Despite the best efforts of the gloriously insane composer, conductor and horror novelist S.P. Somtow, artistic director of Opera Siam.)

I believe it was. It will be available as a catch up from today:

https://www.staatsoper.de/en/productioninfo/montagsstueck-xi-sehnliches-verlangen-1/2021-01-20-19-00-2.html

Thank you! I shall enjoy that.

Your welcome. It was a great performance and I got to see the inside of the concert hall which makes me want to visit when this shit show is over.

From Latest ICNARC Graphs: Amongst General Reattribution Of Other Illness To Covid-19, Pneumonia From Flu Is A Thing Of The Past :

Figure 18 gives us a clue that this is happening. It suggests that anything that the NHS can get away with calling pneumonia, will finally get called Covid-19. It also suggests that most cases of pneumonia are being reattributed to Covid-19.

Figure 19 is the most interesting graph of all because it shows that ICU admissions for patients with pneumonia leading from flu bumping along all year after April at, or just above, zero. This condition, it would seem, has gone the same way as polio, but more so, and is apparently a thing of the past.

Still think the covid bug was jumped on by the sustainable planet zealots and they won’t let go. While the mega rich jet around the globe, they want us to save their planet for them.

Lol, no. They don’t want us to save their planet for them cause they don’t actually believe the planet needs saving. All they want us to do is stay off their beaches, stay off their tropical islands, stay off their ski slopes, stay out of their forests, and stay out of their vacation spots.

They want a return to the bad old days when travel was the preserve only of the mega rich, slebs, politicians and royals.

They don’t want us the riff raff going to the same places as they do.

As I frequently point out, they’ve been wanting to put ordinary people back in their box and confined to their localities since the introduction of the railways.

Indeed. They think that we peasants should know our place and go back to a “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short” life.

There’s a problem with that though. They can’t recruit an army of willing teenagers and ‘uni’ students by telling them they have to do environmental work in Bradford or Jaywick or Elephant and Castle. Very few of them will want to pull supermarket trollies out of canals in Birmingham; they would rather be saving turtles in Madagascar or something. It’s hard to promote the idea of globalism if everyone is forced to stay in their own country.

I do believe it might be starting. And in Holland too. Normally the extremely pissed-off already Froggies would be getting out their Jaunes, and used as they are to wearing masks against CS gas fired by the CRS, social distancing might have to go. But the Dutch? There’s a lot of scores to be settled in repressed Holland – a lot of them racial. Anybody who has worked with Dutch guys, and I have, a lot, know them to be very …. direct. Rutte might indeed have a civil war on his hands as the mayor of Eindhoven warns. It won’t stay in house for long, either. Bring it on. Boris and his Toytown fascists thought they had, as Ferguson said, ‘got away with it’. It ain’t necessarily so. Bring it on. See if the Derbyshire rozzers can save you. They may well have built you a scaffold.

https://mol.im/a/9187261

Indeed. I have worked in the Netherlands. A generalisation is that they are educated, civilised and pleasant. All true but also blunt to a fault. They will tell you what’s what in no uncertain terms if you’re being a bit of an idiot. Push them and you’ll hear or feel the benefit of their opinion. I look on with hope and interest.

Yes, they don’t hold back and are a lot like the Danes, who have been good about protesting recently.

https://fb.watch/3fDtHiHTHk/

Don’t know of this video has already been shared on here but it’s a fascinating take on our current situation.

This.

Thanks for sharing. Way to explosive for alt but great for us to hear and see another, coherent, learned, specialist in her field doctor giving us her take – and what a super interesting take it is.

She should be our Health Minister – we’ve got Handjob.

He should be fired, not from his position, not even with a gun but fired from underneath his feet, tied to a post, surrounded by straw and combustibles – properly fired. It’s cold out, we could do with a little warmth and his pathetic screaming would serve as suitable discouragement to anyone else who wishes to fuck with the people of this country.

I haven’t decided what to do with Johnson yet. It will most likely include pliers and a blow-torch at some point though.

Lessons must be learnt- yeah, they’re fond of that one.

Crushing the aviation industry was always part of the plan

Only for the rich in their Lear jets.

I think crushing the aviation industry has been a goal for these people since the end of WW2.

The invention of the automobile and its subsequent industrialization means that the masses had the means to travel long distances in short spans of times, and afford it. It was a huge step towards individual freedom. But it happened at the very start of the 20th century, in a very capitalist USA, which had no interest to limit people’s freedom. Quite the contrary, the freer the people, the more they would spend.

Then at the end of WW2, former war pilots would came home to their dusty cars, fearing that they’ll never experience the freedom of flight ever again. So the industry responded with a boom of airplanes. Everyone was competing over making the fastest, the most maneuverable, the best looking, the most luxurious general aviation, small, 2-6 seater airplanes. Airfields were popping up everywhere like mushrooms after rain. There was even a whole neighborhood built around an airport with the idea that you would want to drive your personal plane to your house and park it in your own garage.

And then, somehow, it all went away. It seemed like planes would become the new car. It seemed like everyone would have the ultimate freedom of flight, no longer being restricted to roads. But it never happened. Maybe we could say that the market didn’t want flight, that it was too scary. But it also used to be very scary going 30mph in a car, but we got over that. I do believe that the collapse of flight in the US is due to government policies and manipulation, in an attempt to limit people’s freedom. And now, they’re taking it further. Up until last year we couldn’t fly exactly where, when, and how we wanted, but we could at least benefit from aviation to get close to where we want to go in a timely manner. But now they’re trying to stop that too, because they probably consider that it was a mistake to allow us even that little freedom.

Well argued, I agree!

A friend of mine attended a course in Transportation at Swiss Technical University last year. One of the lecturers was an anti-airline eco-fanatic and digital technocrat. He was absolutely overjoyed at the first lockdown, just thought it was not long enough. He must be very happy now. Funny, though, his lectures were interspersed with ‘and when I was at a conference in Auckland/Buenos Aires/Seattle/etc…..

Because it’s nearly always ‘one rule for thee and one for me’. They want to keep the existing infrastructure of airports but reserve them for the elites. Otherwise how are people like Al Gore going to be able to fly around the world telling us that we shouldn’t be flying around the world?

Guys go join Freedom Airways – Prof Cahill, Catherine Austin Fitts et al. making travel happen again (first Zoom meeting is on 02/02). The rebellion is under way.
Stop focusing on what the useless politicians are doing and re-focus on what we want to see in the world… and yes this involves change for the benefit of nature but NOT to the diktat of Klaus fucking Schwab.
Mass Civil Disobedience! Have you noticed how all laws are suggestions and not actually laws…!?!? Well I suggest that we RISE up to the occasion.
*Change is inevitable, chaos is optional.* It’s time for CHANGE in our attitude and taking this laying down. Stay peaceful, respectful, but say NO. Or “fuck off” depending on your daily mood!

Anyone noticed the Extinction Rebellion have gone very quiet lately?

What has happened over the past 12 months must have been like living in heaven for them.

I recall Emma Thompson flying over 6000 miles from LA to join in on the very day those useful idiots showed up at Heathrow to protest air travel. What a joke.

A solitary Higgs boson would die of loneliness in the cavernous empty space between that idiot’s ears.

And yet when one single solitary actor (Laurence Fox) starts political campaigning for the ‘wrong’ side, the wokerati go into a collective meltdown.

That article about informed consent doesn’t ask the most important question: “If I take the vaccine, what is the actual risk of becoming ill, or dying?”

Saturday 30th January the great reopening. It should also be the day of civil disobedience. Get out there, tell people to take their muxxles off, tell people it will get worse unless we the people stop it. By me and my wife will eat in any open restaurant on Saturday.

Me goo

I count 8 pubs, cafes, restaurants in our village. We are in Priti central and I doubt anyone is brave enough to open. I’m taking a walk on Saturday and will buy a drink at any place that’s open so long as they let me sit down inside and don’t even mention face coverings or sanitiser.

That’s it, it has to be really open, as in normal.

Hear, hear!! Mr Bart and I would happily support any pub, restaurant or cafe that will open on the 30th.

Remind them that they are aiding an abetting the government mandating lockdowns and so causing the delays in treatment for anything other than Covid (mostly mis-labelled flu – Delores Cahill work), destruction of the economy

I’m assuming no list is available of those intending to open. (for obvious reasons). It’s a pity though as I’m pretty sure no business in my village will open but I’m willing to motor somewhere within an hour’s drive or so to support anyone open. I guess some will just open for a day as a protest, others may decide to keep open permanently – I will keep an eye out.

They don’t give a fuck about your child’s education, just like they don’t give a fuck about you. Just shut the fuck up, wear a fucking mask and take the god damn fucking vaccine. Get a fucking smart phone and log in to Big Government where they’ll track and trace you forever and ever and ever and ever. Get this fucking stupid idea out your peasant minds that your life is yours, it’s not. You will do exactly what they say when they fucking say it. This is their final solution and you don’t have any fucking choice. And don’t forget to enjoy it, they want you to smile while they rape you in the ass. Pissant pathetic so called liberals and conservatives who know so little that is to say they know fuck all, doesn’t cover it, want you to perform for them like a dancing fucking dog. These are the people you’ve to give up your life to keep safe. Never in the history of the world have so many dumb people gathered round the dumbest ideas ever thought to force on you while telling you that they are right and you will do what they say or you will have to be killed. It won’t be long before the camps open and your bread baking yummy mummy from the BBC light entertainment department is lighting them ovens and baking your libertarian ass. No elections for us, stolen fake elections in America and evil eugenic cunts like Bill Gates injecting god knows what into Africans and all the while the evil commies in China operate a giant concentration camp, the very thing coming for you and your children. We are to live like the prisoners over there. The only solution is all out war. Make no mistake about this. You will have to fight for your life. The next five years are gonna be worse than the last war.

A permanent biometric pharmo-fascist prison awaits us all!

Never in the history of the world have so many dumb people gathered round the dumbest ideas ever thought to force on you while telling you that they are right …

Good way of putting it.

Sorry to hear about your ‘old dear’, as you posted the other evening, which I guess refers to something you wrote a few months ago. We didn’t invent the human condition.

Mass Civil Disobedience and an onslaught of lawsuits… there is no other way. Britain… RISE to the challenge! Say NO.

Surely there aren’t any tories out there who still suppoirt our badly dressed adulterous communist buffoon leader?

I’m sure there are and I’m sure there will be much flag waving and cheering when Matt Hancock is knighted for his efforts.

Knighted with a fucking chainsaw..

A rusty one.

Sadly there are and I know some – even some who are reasonably sceptical still defend him as a victim with no choice who valiantly fights for our liberty – I think his somewhat unique style – a clowny version of Trump, and his “delivery” of Brexit, have bought him more kudos than he deserves

It’s gallows humour that the Tories claim to be conservative while implementing the hardest form of socialism this country has ever had inflicted upon it.

Not me, just ashamed that I ever did.

I know a local Tory member – he still pins the blame on an hysteric media, not a word can be said against the party. It’s bizarre.

Just the tribalists – sadly there are a lot of those!

The Pig Dictator ramped up the hysteria among the Covidians to the point that the Covidians are desperate for the ‘vaccine’

The ‘vaccine’ program is now failing and the Covidians are starting to turn on the Pig Dictator

It’s gone past the point where the Pig Dictator can say hang a minute guys it’s all a hoax, a bit of a giggle. The Covidians will not be unfeared

Hilarious

Get out of that you fat fuck

I hope that he doesn’t!

I love your way with words, Cecil. Sometimes so elegant, sometimes just to the f*cking point. Bravo.

New poster: “Look him in the eye and say ‘Get out of that, you fat fuck'”.
(c) CB.

Isn’t it possible that the Covidians simply say ‘oh well, we just have to wait until a better vaccine comes along; in the meantime, we all just have to get used to permanent lockdown’. ?

Thanks for the link on UK antibody testing.
Throws up more questions than it answers, such as, how come it went down, what role for memory cells. How should the cumulative build up be represented rather than this snapshot approach?

and why so much lower than Sweden when the epidemic has followed a similar course?

maybe this is the downside of lockdown that has been discussed before. Sweden didn’t lockdown so their yoof were out and about getting immunity that doesn’t show up in the figures because they were so mild. we have prevented ours from building up immunity while it has still gone through the vulnerable

More antibodies would tend to undermine their narrative so I doubt there will be any serious attempt to understand the role they play and the real data

And the fact that New Zealand banned the import of antibody test kits in February 2020 was just another of the coincidences which seem to haunt the Covid narrative, of course.

I’m no immunologist, but wouldn’t you expect antibody levels to drop in summer when considering a seasonal illness? As I understand it, antibodies are short lived anyway. Long term protection comes from T-cells.

Yes agree it’s hard to interpret.

You would have wanted them to test the same people each month (like they used to do with the PCR test to come up with new ‘infections’ based on the first positive test) then you would know the number of people who had ever tested positive for antibodies (that would have sorted the waning antibody measuring issue).

So difficult to interpret because of waning antibodies, and then there is all the unmeasured T cell protection (prior immunity T cells and fought off with minimal symptoms and now T cells but no measurable antibodies cases) which is potentially a hidden iceberg.

The regional graphs look interesting.

The North West, Yorkshire and Humberside antibody prevalence has relative to other regions increased from Summer to December, consistent with genuine covid in these regions in the autumn, and because these regions were less hit in Spring and relatively more hit in Autumn (?)

And in December low antibody prevalence in the South East suggests they are relatively more susceptible than some other regions. So the relative increase in covid+ in the South East is because they were relatively more susceptible not because of a mutant strain( ?)

It seems to me we think too much of immunity as a binary option (immune or not) but in reality there is probably some immunity in most of the population now, except the most immuno-compromised. Some who encountered SARS-C0V-2 in April with a small viral load built some protection, may still be affected by covid if say hit my a high viral load in Autumn but won’t be as badly affected as they might have been in April. Overall it means genuine (as opposed to labelled) covid deaths (and other respiratory deaths) in autumn show up in UK mortality as a bad but not untypical respiratory season.

Just my speculation.

The English regional graph

Antibodies decrease with time but memory is retained to reactivate if necessary. So in the population they would decline when fewer people had actually been infected, so after the summer, and then start to increase again in the population as more people are infected in the autumn and winter.

Dr. David Cook:

“1. COVID-19 is a serious new human disease.’

So, is the suite of symptoms unique?

If a patient with a cough, a fever and loss of smell presents to a doctor, can the doctor say on the basis of these unique symptoms that the patient has covid-19?

If a doctor did say that, I could prove the contrary. I had a stinking cold/flu/random coronavirus in Bali in 2017, two weeks coughing and fever, whole-body rash towards the end and 48 hours of complete loss of sense of smell. It was weird. I cooked pasta with garlic and prawns and literally all I could taste was salt (through the tongue), nothing from scent at all.

Of course, it may have been SARS-CoV2. Just because they hadn’t decided to define it yet doesn’t mean it didn’t already exist.

Quite. I’ve had several colds over the years that really messed with my sense of taste and smell. I remember a particularly bad one when I was a kid where everything I ate tasted burnt. Pointing that out to my Mum earned me a clip around the ear!

I once lost my sense if taste and smell for six weeks after a cold, and also lost my voice, and could only rasp hoarsely.
How come that didn’t bring civilisation and human rights to a audden end?

Mark Rutte, the Dutch Prime Minister said “It is the virus that is depriving us of our freedom.”
That one sentence lays bare all our problems.
Either he genuinely believes that in which case he has no rational thought and is unfit for office or he’s lying and unfit.

I think he’s in denial.

If he doesn’t wake up, he could end up like those civil servants during the 1848 Revolution.

Then he should resign, does he not know any 20th century history? Imposing a curfew was never going to go down well, he might as well go on TV dressed in a nazi uniform.

Exactly. The Dutch had to put up with 5 years of brutal German occupation, this was never going to go down well.

I think he’s been in power for far too long. The situation in the Netherlands is likely to get far worse and I would hate to see the army called out. What a way for Rutte to go down in history. I wonder if he has really thought about the consequences? The Netherlands has a more liberal, less authoritarian culture than many other continental European countries, so I can see why so many Dutch people have had enough of this.

I’ve interviewed a lot of politicians over the years and must say that most are of poor character and are actually weak – genuinely unable to deal with serious problems (as well as people who don’t agree with them). I think we will see things really deteriorate across the Western world in the near future. It won’t be pretty.

I agree. I suspect as well that a lot of this also has to do with tensions that have been building up over the years especially with the people’s voices having been ignored time and again.

The lockdowns have been the straw that broke the camel’s back. I can imagine that the Dutch have the same problems as we do – soaring unemployment, bankruptcies, untreated illnesses, mental health issues, domestic violence and substance abuse.

And well said about politicians, many of them I noticed don’t have any real life and work experience – they’ve lived in bubbles all their lives and are even more remote from the people they govern than the aristocracy of old.

As I’ve said before, the barbarians have breached the gates and the civil disobedience and rioting that we’re witnessing are people basically fighting back and saying “we don’t want these barbarians here.”

The Dutch obviously recognise him as unfit, as he lost the last election, but the political elite decided to maintain him in power.

THe virus does not seem to have deprived the people of Belarus of their freedom to live social lives.

Anyone noticing the trend of how leftists used the pandemic to get into office and all of a sudden it isn’t as bad and thus we can open up. Only after they micro manage everything and put in place further restrictive laws to keep you down.

These lockdowns are experimental; tout comes are to see what they can and cannot get away with as they are going nowhere

Mickey Mouse posting again in order to help out 77th Brigade!

This morning on Good Morning Britain Piers Morgan was attacking the government for not closing down international travel at the outset, apparently forgetting his own jetting around the world for holidays, even though his last one was only a few weeks ago.

Morgan isn’t a hypocrite – hypocrites know they are violating their own values. Morgan is worse. He has no values. He only cares about what he perceives to be his interests.

Hopefully he will die in prison

Such a hateful, pathetic human being. Has no interests in anyone’s suffering from this bar his own. Using his newfound love for the NHS as a platform to grow his Twitter following which is the only thing that matters in his life.

Don’t look at the Daily Star front page today, unless you have a strong constitution. It is dedicated to promoting Morgan as the next PM! I have no words.

Which party is he a member of? When is he going to stand as a parliamentary candidate? When would he stand for election as leader of that party? The road to the office of prime minister is not as simple as putting a poll on a Twitter account, as Good Morning Britain seem to believe. https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1353945415536803840

I imagine that the Star didn’t go as deep in their “analysis” as you did with your points, and were more concerned about getting his ugly mug splattered on the front page to sell to a few extra zombies. I would check it out, but it is the Daily Star and I have no desire to subject my head to a virtual labotomy today.

Switch off. NOW. Only ignoring his vile crap will put a dent in his popularity.

I like to know what the lockdownistas are saying. Sun Tzu recommended it. He also recommended knowing oneself. He claimed that if one knows both, one need not fear even a hundred battles. I fear not.

Piers Morgan is a…………

Would you like to borrow my copy of Roget’s Thesaurus?

Roger Mellie?

Think I might watch Blazing Saddles this afternoon….

Top film: Surprised that they still dare to show it.

That’s one phrase that will never appear on Blankety Blank….. The BBC would be in the dock at Ofcom within minutes for the replies.

BBC refuse to release figures of how many complaints they have recieved about Haggy Hour.

“BBC refuse to release number of complaints received about Nicola Sturgeon’s daily briefing
The BBC has refused to release the number of complaints it has received in relation to the Scottish Government’s daily coronavirus briefings, it can be revealed.”
https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/bbc-refuse-release-number-complaints-received-about-nicola-sturgeons-daily-briefing-3111757

They probably can’t count that high!

The comments in the Mail largely support the ‘rioters’ in the Netherlands

Does a worm turning emit a noise?

No me neither, but I’m definatly hearing something

You never know which way the comments on the Mail will jump.

BTL on the DM is being heavily-infiltrated by the boogie-woogie soldier-boys from Denison Barracks at the moment.

Depends on whether they’re voluntary comments from normal people, or paid comments from 77th.

Most of the comments miss the point. They are either a. Good job we’ve left the EU if that’s what it’s like, b. It’s all Muslims rioting and c. They have a point but why smash up small businesses etc or d. idiots don’t they realise there’s a pandemic on.

Very few on there pointing out that this could be the inevitable result of locking down people for months on end with no hope in sight.

At the moment the DM online’s copy seems to be evenly balanced between Covid fear porn and anti-lockdown anger clickbait. At present the latter seem to be given more prominence than the former.

They also have a ‘number of days in lockdown’ counter at the top of the page which is interesting – one would expect it to be a ‘number of days of the brave battle against Covid’ or some such.

I suspect the DM is weighing up which types of story get the most readership and if lockdown scepticism increases in popularity, that might become the favoured angle of the paper.

Pretty unusual if so, I’d say – the DM has always been home to a concentration of the authoritarian tendency on the political right. Generally approving of police thuggery on principle, if that’s the right term.

The notional deaths (‘notional’ because there is no way of knowing the role of the virus) from Covid by occupation are interesting, but once again without the context of general mortality.

Can any allegedly important disease ever have been treated with such statistical gay abandon?

I was perplexed by that graph – unless I am missing something it was meaningless

Yes – Even basic comparative data is missing about the average mortality over 12 months for individuals between 20 and 64.

There is absolutely no information except internal relativities.

More Scary Fairy stuff. I deduce that even in the highest categories, death rates are quite low.

8 out of 10 cat owners say their cats prefer it?

A schoolgirl in Keswick, Cumbria has been spotted in the town square staging a protest:

I Want To Go To School

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Bravo – what an inspirational youngster

Hopefully many others will follow her example

Yes, far better and more educated than the thick St Greta!

Is the goal no school foir the masses? Because there will be no jobs?

It’ll help in the culling of 6 Billion people especially if you have uneducated people.

I am puzzled. Why do you think that people who have not attended school would be easy to cull than people who had been subjected to years of schooling?

The culling will be performed by these very children ala the killing fields in Cambodia.

Tony Blair started this 20 years ago…remote learning…he had education experts pushing it as a way forward.Children learning on computers at home……this is all planned…….

Yes, that’s exactly the goal. Look up Agenda 21 and the Richard Day lecture in 1969 at Google or https://henrithibodeau.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/back-in-1969-dr-richard-day-made-some-astonishing-predictions-about-where-the-world-would-be-today/
and you will see that the children of the (few) elites will be educated properly but the rest will, if they are lucky, be educated to the level where they can just about read and write.

If you want to see how incredibly successful they have been, go onto the idiot-box or YouTube and look at quiz shows from the 70’s and compare the questions with the quiz shows on “Tipping Point” now. Some of my older acquaintances literally didn’t believe me when I gave some examples of “Tipping Point” questions from recent episodes.

tipping point isnt a quiz.. it is a game show with questions and should be compared to the likes of Strike it Lucky . There were plenty of “quizzes” in the 70s with easy questions
however watching mastermind last night I cannot deny that the GK question have really been dumbed down over the years and it is the level of general knowledge that has disappeared since schools were forced to stick to a limited curriculum and they stopped learning things by rote .

Years ago, while in an hotel room, we were watching the TV, we do not have a TV at home, so this was a sort of novelty.
A programme came on called ‘Codex’, broadcast from the British Museum. It was a quiz and at least one of the participants was a theologian, or at least, studying Theology somewhere or other.
I thought the questions would be really hard and searching; was I wrong! They were multiple choice answers and one of them concerned a river near Cairo (or something like that, it was a few years ago) and the answers were, Nile, Euphrates and Tigris (I think). Dumbed down doesn’t begin to describe it.
Whenever we see the TV in an hotel, we know why we do not have one.

The most hilarious questions are now on University Challenge. They’ve moved away from classical education and now ask “woke” questions, such as a round on female sculptors of Dubai. Of course no one can answer them, even the Oxbridge Wokelings.

“ Police have warned that the Netherlands could face weeks of rioting after a coronavirus curfew ended in the worst riots for 40 years as delays to vaccinations raised tensions across Europe. ”

What an absolutely disgusting piece of journalism. The fact that the UK is “ahead” of other European countries in rolling out the vaccine is a national disgrace. If we continue on this trajectory, the UK will be one of the worst places in the world to live for generations to come. A technocratic slave state on a par with the very bleakest science fiction nightmares (THX 1138, Equilibrium etc.).

That’s some amazing spin isn’t it? Like people would be rioting because of a delay in jabbing them!

The MSM now seems to be taking the angle that the Dutch riots are because of certain demographic groups (un-named, but no prizes for guessing which) taking advantage of the pandemic to indulge in criminal activity. This deftly removes the need to mention any legitimate protests.

The Dutch guy who runs a coffee shop near me just confirmed it’s the curfew that’s kicked it off. Seems a fair few Dutch peeps like to meet up in the evenings and chat over a spiff or two on street corners and other public places, generally being sociable and minding their own business.

How dare they!

I think it’s an absolute gift of an article. Such a steaming glob of horseshit that even Daily Mail readers were able to see straight through it. And it pissed them off to be so blatently lied to. The comments were fantastic. I was extremely grateful for the free recruitment drive.

Even more hilariously, it sounds like the masturbatory fantasy of a Pfizer exec or Health Minister – “they want the vaccines sooooo badly they are starting riots”. I sincerely hope they are actually thinking this, I really do, because they will be caught so off guard by the backlash that they might not even have time to react. Or escape…

Thanks for calling it out for what it is…

Normally things kick off in the heat of summer. Holland gets fecking cold at this time of year!!!

“Mark Harper, head of the Covid Recovery Group of Tory MPs, said: “As the PM himself said last August, ‘Keeping our schools closed a moment longer than absolutely necessary is socially intolerable, ­economically unsustainable and morally indefensible.’””

But he still went and did it, didn’t he? As always, watch what they do, not what they say. After the Christmas pack of lies about “5 days together” being destroyed at a moment’s notice, deliberately , just after the hospitality industry bought in their stocks of food; NOTHING that lying, duplicious bunch of bastards says can be taken to be truthful.

We will remember, and we will judge you as blocks, not as individuals, the same way you are doing to us. If I ever see a police officer or politician sitting in a pub or restaurant, I shall remind the management of what they did, and demand to know why they have been allowed into those establishments.

Best place to spot cops would be Burger King or Macdonald’s, Richard.

Sitting close together without masks, of course.

Greasy spoons. Double everything with ketchup.

Of course! How could I have forgotten this. I thank you for your comment. I suspect that this will be the only place they will be able to frequent in the near future. At least it will help to give them the immune system that they deserve.

If any police officers are reading this, you had better start getting some identifying mark like the Mid-Western cops in the USA have (Oathkeepers badges). Dump those “Rainbow NHS badges” and “Thin Blue Line” flags. You will soon need to pick a side; for we are many, and ye are few.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY9pAyayKqs

The Masque of Anarchy is something of a source of comfort to me as well these days, Richard.

Keeping any of the restrictions in place is “ socially intolerable, economically unsustainable and morally indefensible “.

Which is why they were imposed in the first place, and they know it.

Final ONS data on deaths by month for 2020 is out (England and Wales). 56,000 deaths in December 2020 as opposed to 47,000 in 2019.

The Black Death it ain’t.

I wonder if we’ll ever learn how many of those were caused by lockdowns?

Nobody dies of lockdowns comrade. Rid yourself of these thoughts and worship the Rona.

Here’s the link BTW.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/monthlyfiguresondeathsregisteredbyareaofusualresidence

Dear Uncle Jo,

I’d be much obliged if you could tell me:-

What are the mortality total for all causes for 2020?

– how does that compare with 2008?

Can comparison figures be given rate per million?

Your comradely pal,

Ned

Greetings Tovarich.

Looking at the figures on that link I make total all cause mortality in England and Wales last year 608,016. For 2019 it was 530,841 (at least 50,000 of these extra deaths seem to have taken place in April and May 2020).

Figure for 2008 going from the same source, I make 509,090. Sorry I don’t know how that compares for population adjustment etc right now.

Much thanks for replying so quickly!

I would have thought the the 2008 would have been much higher.

At the risk of being sent off to the gulag might I aver you’ve transposed some digits?

Ned

For some reason there’s no total for the year on the excel charts so I totalled up the monthly figures, it’s possible I might have made an error what with the dog barking and youngest daughter complaining that we’re out of bread

Here’s the link again if you want to take a look in your own time.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/monthlyfiguresondeathsregisteredbyareaofusualresidence

Much thanks for that. I’ll get down once I get back from my plod. You enjoy your dacha!

Ned

Sorry for doubting you. I did a rough count for and got 509,000.

I was sure though I had seen something showing mortalities were higher pro rata in 2008 than 2020.

It could have been Fig. 6 on this ONS link:-

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/december2020

The 2020 figure used was provisional – but was only slightly under the one you’ve given.

Has the population increased by 20% in 12 years? – surely not? but it is the only way I can make sense of 2008 having a higher mortality figure per capita than 2020.

We’re in an enclosed system feedback loop now – hospital care is on a covid emergency footing, so non-covid cases get ignored and end up as emergency hospitalisations; since everyone who goes into hospitaal gets tested for Covid until they get a positive test result, that means the number of case and ‘deaths with Covid’ goes up which means the hospital goes deeper into covid emergency footings. And so on.

The figures have been available for a while.

2019 was a year of exceptionally low mortality – the ‘dry tinder year’. 2020 was simply a year of above average – but not ‘exceptional’ or ‘unprecedented’ mortality.

Haven’t got the numbers in front of me, Rick, but if we averaged those two years, and compared with preceeding years, I bet we know what we’d see, don’t we?

If (and I appreciate it’s a mighty if), you take April 2020 out of the equation, there’s not much to see.

Yes we have to be careful about what we include and exclude to avoid massaging the data like the other side constantly do. There is an exceptional peak in April suggestive of a new virus “ripping through” the dry tinder. Of course what we don’t know is how much of that peak was also due to the care home debacle and the removal of NHS services. What is clear is that there is nothing exceptional about this winter meaning the virus has already lost it’s potency above anything else we would see at this time of year.

Indeed, there’s no avoiding that April had horrendous numbers of deaths, though I’m inclined to agree this was as much down to the NHS and care home response as the direct effects of the virus.

Highly recommend the 25th Jan UK Column – plenty of interesting stuff whether Davos or Covid/ vaccinations. Grampian NHS that serves 500,000 people have revealed that from Feb to Nov 2020 just 15 people confirmed as having died of covid.

Right, so things are getting weird here:

Yesterday, a chap came into the shop and ordered a drink and paid. Ten minutes later he had left, the drink remained untouched with what looked like £20 under the cup. Turns out there was £30. The man reappared this morning. His mask had blood on the outside with what looked like blood on the inside, he did not look well. This time he asked for tea which he paid for. I mentioned that he had left £30 yesterday – he denied all knowledge of this, but it was definitely him. Same thing as yesterday – he left the drink and what looked like another £20. This time he also left a copy of The Sun , a business card from a local junk shop, two cigarettes on the side of the cup and a full packet of fags and a lighter. We decided to leave all this in-situ in case he had just gone to the public toilets but 20 minutes later it was still there. Turns out the £20 was actually £180.

While this was happening, I noticed a man stood on the top level of the Waitrose car park that overlooks our business – it looked like he was filming/photographing us. Same thing had happened on Friday after the visit from the EHO. I am pretty sure it was the same man.

This is all very odd. Are these two incidents connected, I wonder. I have it from the horse’s mouth (the EHO) that we are being spied on. Is this some form of entrapment – even though I attempted to give the man the money back from yesterday. The man filming us came over to look at the items the other man had left. I just don’t know what to think and I am slightly unnerved by what is now happening. I haven’t made any of this up for effect … Any thoughts …

You might want to install some cameras

That too.

Yes, cameras and a witness. Get the cameras in today.

Well weird. Especially the cash. Why are they watching you kh?

“ The man reappared this morning. His mask had blood on the outside with what looked like blood on the inside, he did not look well. ”

This is the weirdest and most unsettling part. There are some very dark forces at work here.

I know, he really did not look well and when I said about the money yesterday he just said it wasn’t him, there wasn’t a flicker of anything but it was definitely the same man.

Have you read his newspaper? Perhaps he left a message encircled in red pen

I wasn’t trying to be funny with my above comment. Just was thinking that maybe he was the one being filmed. Blood on mask very sinister.

Have you contacted the police?

sounds like an attempt at entrapment. email the police saying you have kept his money safe until either he comes back or you hand it in. also that you are worried about him because of the blood

Agree, this is the best course of action. It would ruin any attempt at entrapment, which is what this sounds like. And yes, get cameras. and secure witnesses if possible.

Either that or it’s the start of the zombie apocalypse.

Take pictures of everything you notice as well.

I would probably be reporting this to the police I don’t think they will do anything but it might help your case if something does happen.

yes, get it on record

It is on record- sort of . It is reported here, and hundreds if not thousands have seen what is effectively a public statement.

anonymous though. I would still email the police – they only need to skim read it and be in your sent folder

Definitely record/document everything. Maybe involve the police, i.e. this man seems mentally unwell? That way, you are covering everything – his wellbeing, you aren’t pocketing the money etc.

I am concernced about going to the police as they have it in for me anyway.

Given the state of the man that you describe, you could get in touch with Social Services or the Salvation Army or similar charities on the grounds that this person looks vulnerable and needs help.

How very strange. Regardless of your well founded suspicions of the police, I’d take all of his left behind belongings and cash to them and would make sure I got a receipt, especially stating the exact sum of money handed in. The camera suggestion is a good one too.

Agree with leggy. Better not to find yourself on the back foot if something nefarious is going on.

Police setting you up

in view of your reasonable suspicion of the police , is it possible to involve someone like a tame solicitor to whom you could pass on the details and also lodge the money etc so the whole think is documented . also it might be worth calling CAB – again it is another record and they may also suggest action to take

ps also keep the cup he used safe and bagged up as his fingerprints will be on it … just in case they are ever needed

If there’s a connection between the two (the filming and the man leaving money) then that is sinister. The man leaving the money gives me a bad feeling. Have you p*ssed off the masons? It just all seems so weird.

I agree with others – document everything, and get witnesses if you can. Put his things and the money to one side. If you don’t want to contact the cops, that’s fine, but just make sure you keep a record of what has happened.

I don’t see what they can entrap you with on the basis of the man leaving money, but the whole thing seems very odd, and I can understand your concern.

All the abandoned property bagged up and handed in to the police. Agree about installing cameras.

If you are sure you can recognise the man, then how about a blackboard message along the lines of “would the gentleman who accidentally left some money on the table yesterday please come in to collect it”.

This would have 2 positive effects. Firstly, your spies will no doubt photograph this, and it proves you are an upstanding, morally correct citizen (although I would photograph it yourself as well in case their photos become ‘disappeared’). Secondly it would almost certainly increase the footfall into your cafe. Even if they are all chancers, they might buy a cup of tea.

The most iniquitous thing about all this is that as a local tax payer you are effectively bankrolling your own surveillance.

Good points, blackboard sounds good plan. Definitely a ‘Curious Incident’. Perhaps they are not related. Car park stalker probably related to EHO spying, waving to the camera regularly might help. Reporting the harassment to police might help despite KH’s reported ‘issues’ with them. At least it’s recorded. Chap with bloody mask might be dementia sufferer who has wandered off and taken a tumble so reporting it to social services of some sort definitely a good plan. Bodies get pulled out of Faversham Creek from time to time. Wandering off is sometimes the cause, when it’s not drink.

Reminds me of a Dave Allen sketch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA-iF45pOlI

Thanks, needed the laugh. Love Dave Allen.

My first thought was that this chap was doing what I have been doing with my favourite little cafe; I paid for a £5 bill with £40 and told them it was a christmas present (actually my way of subsidising them a tiny bit through the lockdown that occurred either side of my visit) but I did make a point of telling them that the money was theirs.

If he is trying to give you the money, it’s nice, but misguided. There’s no proof that he’s giving it to you, so you need to do what the other contributors are saying otherwise I agree that you could be walking into their trap.

It sound a bit like drug stuff. Perhaps he was trying to leave cash for *somebody* to pick up and the people filming are cops trying to film the pickup/drop. Don’t forget that doing this kind of thing might be tricky if people live in places where they would get reported for having visitors or that visitors are banned. So these exchanged often need to happen out of doors and basically handing over cash and swapping little bags of drugs is a very difficult thing to do without looking suspicious. All it takes is one person to see the exchange and call the cops and…bing….busted.
Stuff like this used to happen in McDonalds up and down the land, not these days.

If you ever notice the police doing covert survielance you know what it is straight away, nothing else looks like it. They do it a lot.

If it isn’t something like this, perhaps the guy is a bit mental, perhaps he feels sorry for you, either way up keep the cash in a bag and all his stuff, try to document as much of it as you can and talk to the cops soon once you have a chance to have a proper think about it and if it keeps happening. I would hand in the cash anyway and perhaps make no more of a deal about it, just some guy left this, cheers…

What steve_w said plus install CCTV in your cafe.

And don’t forget to keep a log.

Democracy Dies In Fake News

Tony Heller

Documenting yet another year of fake news and Doublespeak from the Washington Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S7qU6htYQ8&list=WL&index=21

Murder Rates SURGE Across the Nation as Democrat Controlled Cities IMPLODE!!!

Dr. Steve Turley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvzkdCWiik&list=WL&index=22

City journal has been calmly logging the figures for many months.

Send Lisa Nandy at once!

the homicide vs COVID deaths is an interesting question. Whose lives matter most? I looked at the cities in the US with the biggest % homicide increases in 2020, all coming after George Floyd died in police custody end May; ie after which black ‘communities’ were encouraged to be angry and the police pressured to be invisible. Adjusting to ‘quality adjusted years’ removed – average homicide victim say 25, average COVID 75+, so 10 times more years lost in a homicide – I calculated BLM-inspired homicides were at least twice as deadly as COVID in those cities/areas (I had to use state data for COVID ‘deaths’; and I generously assumed all COVID deaths were ‘OF’.) Vaccine that.

An additional point on UK column, they received an email from someone whose relative is a public sector worker who was requested to submit car registration details in the context of purchasing fuel. Does this suggest a proposed fuel restriction, possibly to stop us moving around except for key workers. I know someone mentioned fuel price hikes, or maybe a bit tin foil hat … though I wouldn’t put anything past them.

Restrictions aside. Who know WHAT they are going to do, the crazy bastards, but I think the general plan is to make driving a car just so ridiclously expensive and such a monumental pain in the bum that people will not bother trying to do it anymore. They won’t travel. They won’t buy cars and they won’t learn to drive, which is already a monumental pain in the bum to try to do.

At present it’s only one anecdotal case. Could just be a public-sector jobsworth going above his remit and ‘interpreting’ things. (Eg, when I worked on an academic journal I once had a colleague who believed – genuinely – that it was ‘the law’ that any stock image of people we published had to include non-white people, and another colleague who believed the term ‘brainstorm’ was banned because it was offensive to epileptics).

Still we need to watch this though, as I’m amazed they have not brought in more strict measures on movement control yet.

“and another colleague who believed the term ‘brainstorm’ was banned because it was offensive to epileptics).”

As a person with epilepsy (to use the PC term), I’ve never heard that one!

A few years ago it was the fashion to claim the term ‘brainstorming’ was offensive to epileptics – so much so that the Epilepsy Society (or whatever it’s called) issued a statement rebutting it.

The colleague who told me about it worked for the NHS and was told to go through various official documents and to strike the word from them.

Global leaders have sent enough hints that they don’t trust Joe Biden

TFIglobal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRrjavn-N-g&list=WL&index=23

Joe Biden, within a week of assuming the White House, has angered every single US ally. Watch how.

I’ve been a huge loggerheads as to the motive of the global drive for this experimental vaccine, coming up with all sort of reasons in my mind.

• Money, probably but not the overriding reason.
• nano chip tech, to control us in the future, possible but unlikely
• Generate a vaccine passport for control (Very likely)

Now this has just occurred to me.

We know the virus is endemic, so the only way they can continue this fraud to usher in the grat reset is to keep this going. Deaths are increasing again. More lockdown blah blah blah… So the big drive for the experimental vaccine is to keep this going, as they know the more who have the experimental vaccine the more deaths will occur, all blamed on Covid of course.

Well all the other interventions (lockdowns, distancing, masks, sanitising) have served to weaken our immune systems in order to prolong and increase illness, so it stands to reason that one of the purposes of the vaccine will be to contribute further to this.

Yep – I think it was Neil Oliver who put it something like “this is just season 1, episode 1 of the pandemic box set”. Anyone who thinks that once this current jabathon is finished, that’ll be the end of it, is massively deluded.

Yes, bottom line Sustainable Planet, always

Knut Wittkowski makes that point that insofar as lockdowns work at slowing viral spread, they also increase the chances of more mutations occurring.

That is the story we need to be pushing. Viruses nearly always mutate, under normal conditions, to become more benign and less infectious, if the opposite is now happening the change is because of lockdown.

As of today 6.22m people in the UK are effectively out of work. That is out of 17.5m people who are ‘economically active’.

In other words, the UK unemployment rate stands at 32%.

Unemployment stats today show another rise in UK unemployment. 1.72m people now out of work. This official figure though doesn’t include the 4.5m on furlough

https://gab.com/Simondolan/posts/105621019914269899

You appear to have under-estimated the number of economically active.It is over thirty-four million.

Private sector is only 24 mn so the #s are slightly off 6 mn/24 mn or about 25%. Gov’t is 10 mn, total workforce of 34 mn.

Gov’t is hiring as you wld expect and those blood suckers account for about 10 mn ‘workers’ ie welfare recipients including the useless NHS.

In fairness, the number came from Simon Dolan, not Victoria. Be interesting to hear his explanation for it.

Victoria wrote it.

How can the Dutch Prime Minister or anyone claim, “ It is the virus that is depriving us of our freedom” ?

The virus hasn’t imposed the restrictions. Governments have. Full stop!

Yeah, he’s yet another lying sack of shit.

double Dutch. No courage.

Passing the buck. The poor virus can’t answer back.

Side Effects and Data Gaps Raise Questions on COVID Vaccine

• Reports of serious side effects to the COVID-19 vaccines have started emerging. Examples include persistent malaise and extreme exhaustion, anaphylactic reactions, multisystem inflammatory syndrome, chronic seizures and convulsions, paralysis and sudden death within hours or days

• By December 18, 2020, 112,807 Americans had received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine. Of those, 3,150 suffered one or more “health impact events.” That’s a side effect rate of 2.79%

• While Pfizer claims its vaccine is 95% effective, this is the relative risk reduction. The absolute risk reduction is actually less than 1%

• Analysis of recently released data suggests the relative risk reduction for Pfizer’s vaccine may actually be between 19% and 29% — far lower than the required licensing threshold of 50%

• Studies have warned COVID-19 vaccines may result in more serious disease when exposed to the virus, either through antibody-dependent immune enhancement or pathogen priming that triggers an autoimmune response

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/01/26/covid-vaccine-side-effects.aspx

The most interesting/significant item today is the update on Sweden, even though it doesn’t touch wider issues of immunity.

Apart from supporting the wisdom of the relatively ‘normal’ approach adopted in Sweden, it does raise the fundamental question of whether damage is done to population immunity by lockdowns. Given that historical mortality in Sweden follows a very similar curve to that of the UK – the current departure from that similarity doesn’t boast any efficacy for the UK’s approach.

… which, of course, is what you won’t hear.

Is Sweden vaccine crazy as in the UK? Given they’ve achieved immunity without it largely

Calling Carrie!!!

Has she been around recently?

California lifts lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9183437/California-lift-stay-home-orders-Monday-report.htm

Now that Biden is pretender democratic America has now decided enough is enough and life must go on I think this is the best hope for us, no doubt the us will quietly reduce cycle counts and away it goes and there you go Biden has fixed it and saved millions.

It was clear something was up when Bozo and some of his mates made obviously anti-Trump tweets during the election fraud investigations. Biden is their man and so now they will be watching to see what he does. It will be hard to maintain permanent lockdowns in the UK if this is not happening in the USA also.

God bless Biden.

They’ve just been Biden their time.

Each of the four scary ‘winter scenarios’ for Covid deaths presented at 31st Oct. press conference predicted a peak in December – ranging twixt the 4th and the 31st.
This was something else that hasn’t happened – which in this case is to be regretted.

The peak has probably been passed, hopefully, in the last few days – a week or so perhaps after the normal peak for winter deaths from all causes.

It is puzzling to me that one of four models came up with a peak in January. Is this due to the new variant?

or more lies

Sorry for “one” read “none”. Here’s the correct version.

Each of the four scary ‘winter scenarios’ for Covid deaths presented at the 31st Oct. press conference predicted a peak in December – ranging twixt the 4th and the 31st.
This was something else that didn’t happened – which in this instance is to be regretted.

The peak was probably passed, hopefully, in the last few days – a week or so, perhaps, after the normal peak for winter deaths from all causes.

It is puzzling to me that none of four models came up with a peak ocurring in January. Is this due to the new variant?

They will say that any success is all due to us locking down however much they have to twist the numbers.

Ned – All the models peaked in Early – Mid December and have all vastly over estimated the total number of deaths

The data is available at the Spectator data site – https://data.spectator.co.uk/

The chart shows the total number of deaths attributed to Covid – October to January – models vs actual – usual caveats apply

Much thanks

Is the peak for deaths in UK from seasonal flu usually in January?

Peak for any kind of deaths in UK is January.

Peak all cause Winter death month is usually January. Occasionally it is February not January.

In 2020 it was April.

You have to go back to 2003/2004 winter to find a winter with peak deaths in December

(Based on English all cause age standardised mortality)

It takes time for the truth to drip down to MSM and even Fox news. This site already in April May had information about Fauci’s dubious connection and support of dangerous lab work in Wuhan, even circumventing a ban from Obama. This was called conspiracy,

This was video in MSM/Fox news yesterday about Fauci’s role.

https://twitter.com/NextRevFNC/status/1353544951758512130

The longer 15 min video incl part 1 as prt 2 above

https://www.facebook.com/NextRevFNC/videos/432344174486279/

But who will make these people accountable?

Early retirement?

 Perhaps going into the speculative.

Why the sudden switch against all pandemic guidelines (as recent 2019) for a lock down approach/super response? Had the powers security agencies not yet decided whether it was a bioterror attack or a laboratory mishap, and therefore went for “over” response?

Why did the UK government go for lockdown as it was not recommended by the SAGE group, Fergusson seems almost surprised in the recent interview that this could be done? Had the UK gov instead been briefed by the CIA about the possible origin of the pandemic?

Imagine the response in our propagandist media if the clip of Dutch police remonstrating with a protester with a water cannon had been filmed in Russia or China or some other designated enemy state. Welcome to the world of the lockdown enforcers. .

That’s what happens when you spread fear, impose authoritarian rules, and demonise dissenters.

Wokeism is a huge factor behind this, the party line that other people should be more important to you than yourself has crept in so much I don’t think we’ll ever recover from it.

Lisa Nandy on protests in Russia: https://twitter.com/lisanandy/status/1353091151096635392?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Lisa Nandy on protests in the Netherlands: silence.

“Look over there, in the distance. Somebody’s being oppressed! Something must be done!”

Toby et al,

I see there’s no Wokey Bollocky section today. Please tell me this is due to deadlines or someone pulling a sickie.

Whilst there may be bigger fish to fry, the creeping cancer that is woke is a major contributing factor as to why we’re in this show that is shit.

Anyhows, peace, love and thanks as always.

Just had my bonnet cut by my mobile hair dresser, she’s doing great trade could not give a fuck about guidance, refuses to wear a muzzle.round my area I’m pleased to say our hair is immaculate..

Wish I could find one. I cautiously suggested to my hairdresser that she might be able to do discreet haircuts in people’s homes, and she seemed quite shocked. ‘Anyway,’ she said ‘it’s a paid holiday for me so I don’t need to really.’

If you own a salon that’s probably the case, but the attitude “it’s a paid holiday for me” leaves a lot to be desired when she gets taxed out of existence to pay for it all she may change that attitude..

Fantastic. I’ve been doing my own haircut – sure it ends up being wonky behind but since no-one really cares, its OK with me. Plus I save money.

The school children of Arnhem still place flowers on the graves of British Paratroopers who gave their lives fighting to free the Dutch nation

Many of the Paratroopers were only 19 or 20 years of age

The Dutch know what it is to live under a regime like the one that the Pig Dictator is creating

Brave Dutch people please keeping fighting until victory is yours

the Dutch still tell the Germans they want their bicycles back – (as they were all nicked/confiscated during the occupation ) especially at football matches .

Just had an update on what’s happening in our German office. Seems like everyone there now needs to wear an FFP2 or surgical mask – even on the roof – I only ever visited the roof there to have a cigarette, so I’m not sure how that works. In addition, everyone must maintain a 10m² personal area. A new form of bubble no less! The measures are in place, “initially”, until 15th March. I think I know how that will pan out.

Fully expecting that to be the case in many offices here – and many more will simply never reopen or remain more or less empty

There are only two ways an office can work going forward – back to normal, anyone who doesn’t like it can stay at home OR covid-safe, anyone who doesn’t like it can stay at home

Most offices other than very small ones where the boss and majority are sceptics will be covid safe so people like me will never go to them again

I miss the old office (to be honest not terribly because of the travelling but that’s personal choice) but the old office won’t come back so I have no desire to be in an office with swervers

All the employees HAVE to be OFFERED a medical examination if they are fit to wear FFP2 masks with a AMTSARZT. A govt approved doctor.
If they choose to wear those, even after a medical examination, they are only ALLOWED BY LAW to wear them for 75minutes and then have to have 35minute break.
10sm personal space? That is impossible I would say.

Oddly not a mention of exemptions or of any time bound restrictions on use by our MD! I’m tempted to reply all on the email and point those things out, but probably best not to rock the boat too much. He did at least make it clear that you didn’t have to wear one when seated at your desk – as long as the 10m2 thing is maintained.

Sadly “not rock the boat too much” is the general attitude.
Ok, I understand for most people, it is important to have job security, and we want to be “happy” going to work.
But even the RKI does not recommend the use of surgical or FFP2 masks unless necessary to carry out certain jobs.
Of course if you do not have to constantly wear the mnc, they get away with it.
I asked my mother in Germany yday, do the shop staff wear those masks? She said no, only the shoppers have to. Is this logical? No.

Well, the thing is I don’t even work in that office – I (used to!) visit once or twice a year. I just happen to be on the email distribution list. So it’d be a bit cheeky for me to start calling out the way they run their office in a different country. To be fair, they have also said that people can work from home if they wish, there’s no obligation to go in.

Bizarre double standards that you mention regarding shop staff and shoppers though.

German govt are pushing work from home hard, as too many people use public transport, hence them making “medical grade” mnc mandatory in shops and PT.
Germans and the country has been very slow to use ditgital/internet based tools.
Pin and chip or contactless payment has only become a thing in the last 2 or 3 years. It just was not possible as banks did not facilitate it.
I once tried to pay by CC in a large clothing store, which has a lot of tourist business, they did not accept CCs!
As my family does not really internet, I am not aware how the speeds are to make home working possible.

Is that because you don’t breathe when you are at your desk?????

Who knows any more!

The virus is about to explode in Germany.