2021-02-01

Still working in this shitty care home. ..help!

Hancock LEAKS Brits’ Personal Medical Data To UK Police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ_KjaHGoy8&t=346s

Mahyar Tousi

He cannot be allowed to do that and must be challenged.

He’s already done it. No parliamentary scrutiny.

I didn’t find the bit where he leaked sensitive medical data but if private information became public it’s clearly a major Data Protection breach, a disaster for Hancock. Solicitors could rip him to pieces (so to speak …)

N.B. I’m not a lawyer but I’ve done dozens of cases over the years and won 90%. If this happened to me I’d probably fill in a claim form within the week.

Should be arrested, not just for this

ITALY STARTS TO REOPEN
Da lunedì quasi tutta l’Italia diventa gialla, 5 regioni restano arancioni. Ecco cosa si può fare
https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/01/30/news/da_lunedi_quasi_tutta_l_italia_diventa_gialla_5_regioni_restano_arancioni_ecco_cosa_si_puo_fare-284938893/

Still a thicket of restrictions, including curfews, but a comparative paradise compared to our foul concentration camp. Bars open … museums open … shops open… aah.
But I presume, since nothing is said about it, that universal gagging is still the rule.

I was in Italy in September, despite the seemingly stricter rules than here, at the time, the atmosphere was completely different. Nothing was shut, the town centres vibrant and the people pretty much their normal selves. I expect there were things we couldn’t see but it was genuinely the best holiday I have ever had purely for the relief of feeling free. Good luck to Italy.

We need people to do the same here

Tell us what’s so awful about it, Ted. You are on the front line and we need to know what things are like where you are.

I’m in the Rhondda. The previous Sunday a group of over weight Munchausen by proxy type District Nurses invaded the Home and jabbed the lot.One untimely death so far.

There is no front line it’s all bollocks Annie.My 34th year in Nursing and my last.

All bollox, eh? We can add another scene to Dungford’s stupid Stalinist farce, then.
It’s awful that you are giving up after such devoted service. Do you think that many other nurses feel the sane?
Oh, and BTW, did the jab victims give informed consent?

The families depressingly gleefully gave consent.

The only good thing about this is they might not be so gleeful when they realise all the existing rules about social distancing, masks, no visiting etc still apply.

Many of the old school Nurses are in agreement with me.I moved into the Care Home sector because I got too old to wrestle with young violent psychotic patents on laminated floors in some hellish South London Hospital.The new generation are enthralled by their perceived self importance and easy money if you toe the line.The relatives willingly gave consent. Wales is remarkably compliant with this shit show.We have two circles of Hell Westminster and those crooks in the Welsh assembly.

If the useless, kow-towing, arse-licking, spineless, brainless Ass-embly was abolished as a result of the Coronabollox it would be a boon to Wales, though it wouldn’t make up for even a tenth of the bollox.
Better Boris, in all his nauseous foulness, than Boris-and-Dungford.

His Royal, nauseous foulness. Along with Princess Nut Nuts.

Did they offer the recipients informed consent or was it just jab and …next.

Interesting. I’ve got this theory that a it’s the jabbing squad that is bringing covid into nursing homes and killing the residents within a few weeks. A few very frail elderly people may well succumb to the side effects of the vaccine, ie very high temps, but many more will actually get the virus and die within the next couple of weeks.
If a jabber had the virus, then being up close, leaning over residents, breathing all those germs, whilst they ‘deliver’ the jab is a guaranteed way to spread the virus.
Think back to the Gibraltar incident, and the Hampshire care home. In both cases they had protected the residents pretty well throughout the past year. Then in comes the jabbing squad, and suddenly they have a bad outbreak of virus.

The vaccines are meant to kill, but not too quickly as that would be bad PR. The globalists must be getting somewhat worried that their depopulator cat is jumping out of its bag rather too soon. Still though, the thicko British public probably won’t notice a thing even if their whole neighbourhood drops dead ten minutes after being jabbed.

If the brainwashed public did start to die in large numbers, even with “private ambulances” doing a roaring trade, they would still not notice anything. Even if they were walking past body bags in gardens, they wouldn’t care. Unless it was on the BBC and they were TOLD to care.

Yep. Easy to see now how the Germans could claim they didn’t know about the concentration camps. In all fairness most of them probably didn’t know much about them and didn’t want to – the few that raised questions were dealt with, and the rest learned not to ask questions.

They certainly knew about the murder of mental patients, which took place in their midst. ‘There goes the murder box again!’ said kids as the death-van passed by.

Abduct Bill and Melinda. Jab them.

And no doubt they put all their faith in the silly muzzles they make the poor souls wear. Flies through chicken wire analogy?

https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises/

Looks like a job for Emma Peel and John Steed.

Have all the residents been vaccinated?

Of course how could you resist that kind offer.

My colleague in a care home agreed thinking it was a typo when he was offered a ‘hand jab’.

Hand jib???

Leave. Persuade your fellow workers to leave. Persuade other care home workers to LEAVE. Strike. Screw these care companies. They have been universally terrible in this “scamdemic”.

Their leadership clueless. I only have to read some of the crap one of them comes out with in his staff news letters. This guy is a total fool. He knows NOTHING about anything to do with the Rona.

In fact their approach has been insane and in reality has been more akin to outright wide-spread abuse of their residents.

These companies are already in big trouble, all those staff who were’nt British nationals are going home and who want’s to work in one of these places now? Not many people.

I work in social care in a short term emergency housing project. People only stay for a few days and then move on. The staff who are mostly under 30 were recently offered the vaccine and depressingly were falling over themselves to get it. I think there’s only me and one other person who declined. I’m seriously thinking of leaving if the the vaccine becomes mandatory for health and social care workers. I used to work for the NHS and know that the uptake has been less than 50% at the trust I worked for.

They might not want to work there but 20,000 women are about to become unemployed ……

And what about the poor old residents? I agree that the staff are shabbily treated – but to take it out on the residents? I think many of them would not be as hard-hearted as you suggest, which is why the owners have them over a barrel.

Yes the poor old residents…well mass strike action would certainly make the resident’s lives better wouldn’t it? The companies would be forced to drop all their covid bollocks.

However like you say, many people are brainwashed. So poor old residents.

It’s a matter of time I will be asked to have that jab followed by a swift fuck off and Home.Care Homes are held together by the Foreign Legion and Africa Corps.

It’s only a matter of time for me.I will be offered the jab followed by a quick fuck off then Home again for the History Channel.The sector is appalling held together by The Foreign Legion and the Africa Corps.

And how about your residents, Teddy? How do THEY feel?

Starting to get really disappointed in LS as it continues to meekly regurgitate MSM articles with a “worth reading in full” caption. I for one would like hard hitting and scientifically based articles that destroy the narrative we are being force-fed by the relentless propaganda.

LS is now just a news aggregator for the most “sceptical” mainstream media pieces, most of which are limp, pro-Covid vaccine rebukes of the government. The real content has been below the line for months now.

Expect a name change soon to “Lockdown Agnostics” or something similarly centrist.

Lockdown Sceptics is the right name.Remember the Tory Euro Sceptics who always moaned about the EU but never did anything about it.

Yes, but what’s your/the alternative?

Go to
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-the-grim-milestone-of-100000-covid-deaths-is-nonsense/

Fab article. I’d really like share it but none of my friends will believe I’m now reading Conservative Woman!

It’s the only relatively MSM site talking sense. Check in daily. Lots of good articles on all sorts.

Read the link within the article that is referenced.

The site Owner Laura Perrins is a hoot. Listen to their podcasts with James Delingpole.

I love Laura, she is so passionately against lockdowns and gets so animated on those podcasts with James.

Maybe if they changed their title to politicallyconfusedgenderinfdifferent.co.uk they would get a lot more support?

I can’t believe that I’m reading Conservative Woman!

Haven’t read it yet but I love Laura Perrins on the Delingpod.

Worth reading in full – as some might say. Only this time it really is.

Thats a great point…wish I had thought of it! Its the same kind of people I think too. Left to that lot we would never have left the EU and I suspect its the same with this. What we want is angry lockdown hating opponents who do not think the oppressors have ‘the best of intentions’ but recognise that they are the absolute enemy.

Links to the Ministry of Truth radio ads? Control by income flow?

People’s Liberation Army. Take that CCP!

But they produce this daily. All in all, I believe they do a good job, and deserve credit for it, and encouragement.

The odd article from Toby would be good though – at least more than we currently see. As a hard-bitten journalist, who knows himself how to bite, he is irreplaceable.

Agreed. Both points.

I agree – it must take a lot of work to edit this daily. I do wish they’d remove that pic of starmer on his knee – been there for too long and makes me queasy!

Yes, that picture is sick inducing!

IMO, one issue with the posts is that they are becoming a little unwieldy, in particular the bits below the Roundup. Several of the sections don’t change from day to day, at least much. Maybe they could have their own pages down the side, and be referred to in the daily post only when something substantial is changed?

Whatever goes on in the daily posts, they are a vital vehicle for the BTL comments though, which are invariably vibrant and often thought-provoking.

Don’t forget the update’s target audience isn’t us BTLers.
There are new people coming to LS every day, so it’s fine for the fixed articles to be included. It keeps the GBD in public view and the info re masks will be very useful for newbies.
I usually just skip down and look for any stop presses.

I would love never to see a picture of Boris Johnson again, especially the one with a mask, wearing a white coat.

They should replace it with this one.

No, no, no…Just get rid of it!

yes but it’s supposed to be introducing “woke gobledegook”.

If we could have no more pictures of Matt Hancock though, as some of us will be trying to eat, that would be much appreciated.

Not queasy, just boring!!

Perhaps this site intends to mix propaganda in with truths at subliminal levels while ostensibly making rational cases against it. Or simply ignorant?

If I was ‘the bad guys’ in this Script I would not leave opposition to chance. But would allow to run what could be used to advance the possession and control agenda. Do you see any other agenda?

Toby wants to be and not to not be, and perhaps framed this from the outset to only look at it in the framing of medical or politician-political pretexts.
He knows the people who are compliant and willingly doing this top down squeeze as does Dellingpole.

Economic and social corruption is the underlying issue – which is itself a symptom of a loss of consciousness to device of deceit – such as the mind control passing off as communication.

I am not accusing anyone of anything here so much as recognising that we have many levels of masking that are ‘old normal’ and for the most part invisible.

LDS was a beacon of light last spring. Now they have morphed to MSM views.
It’s like Talk radio. For a while they were pretty much calling this sham out for what it is but since they got their YouTube ban every comment is qualified with the usual mantra. Shame.

You mean where Julia Hartly Brewer spends 10 minutes explaining initially she was for the lockdown (“As it was new disease so let’s have a lockdown) now she’s against it, but she socially distances, washes her hands, wears a mask and wants her parents to be vaccinated

Basically yes.
Even mike Graham and his cohort Kevin O’Sullivan. The plank of the week is still great and the Thought Police podcast was epic but I’ve Def noticed a Toning down of the scepticism.

His performance at Cambridge Union was outstanding. Brady was good, but Toby was the only one there with all the facts and figures at his fingertips and incisive arguments.

Some sort of ethos, policy and strategy for reporting would be good.
There’s so much loose talk (using weaponised language as if it is legit currency)
and such a huge willingness to get lost in the long grass so as not to state the obvious and address what remains.

Manipulation and deceit used against us all calls for education and neutralising of such devices.

From captive or self-censored sources we can learn much by what is not told us.
Regardless anyone’s own reasons for why they wont go there.
Self limiting compliance is evidenced on many levels – not just in the ‘lockdowners’.

He’s over on FSU most of the time. Can’t do both for long. Caroline would go spare!

Not been here for months now for the reason you outlined above.

A few days ago repeated the MSM line about definitely XS deaths and no FP test. What utter pish.
The Xs deaths were flat from spring onwards. Then only suddenly jan sees a spike, coincidentally the same time as 4 million of the most unhealthy elderly people get their life saving jab of a new untested drug. In normal times this would be investigated but not now.

Here is the data to 31st Dec I took the liberty of charting.

Anyone who can’t spot the correlation between the “pandemic” and closing hospital and denying treatment and the massive ramp in bogus PCR test must be working for No10

According to Lancet we are at a minimum of 1 million false positive test now. Increasing at 10K per day

I’m afraid vaccine harms have never been adequately examined, the DoH and the Pharma companies in league on that one for the past forty years.

However what we are now seeing is an astounding degree of medical and regulatory recklessness and negligence. (to a degree that is hard for me to believe can be accidental)

It makes me wonder what could qualify as an adverse vaccine reaction if immediate increase in deaths in vulnerable elderly people does not count.

Yes – it is the repeated ad infinitum “worth reading in full” that gets my goat, especially as very few such links have anything new to say!

I think some of the occasional trolls on here – and I’m not saying at this point you are one – have deliberately set out to undermine Toby Young and sever the trust between him and his readers. I don’t agree that there is ‘no conspiracy’ but I still trust him and remain grateful that, in a society stripped of dissent, he’s still here.

The need is to criticise the issue where there is one and not attack the person.
Emotional investments in good v evil binary are too quick to flag the ‘evil’ to anything that breaks from their own narrative identity – and while understandable, it is not helpful to a clear communication of the issues.

If you believe the BBC is lying to you – would you seek to undermine the trust between it and its viewers/listeners? I think the BBC do a great job at that all by themselves to anyone who cares to notice.

Likewise in any point of information, if we care to notice we learn by what we see. That I DO NOT see hardly any active trolling here tells me it is not a threat to the establishment. It’s more of a social club.

Possibly gets round copyright constraints?

Yes, almost certainly the main reason. You can quote an extract without permission, but not the whole thing.

It is difficult. We all know that there is no way the lockdown strategy is ever going to be reversed. Lockdown will always be deemed to be the ONLY answer and there is very little LS can do about that regardless of graphs, studies, Sweden and various data and articles that indicate the cure is very worse than the disease. The best we can do now is to help push for an eventual return to proper normal without caveats. I’m not very hopeful given what has happened in the past twelve months but we have got to keep trying.

Like this one:
https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises/
Definitely ”worth reading in full”!

You’re right. Their fiver a month from me cannot be taken for granted!

Yes keeping safe amongst this mess. Discarded PPE on the staff room floor. Stay safe be seeing you!

It demonstrates the futility of the whole operation we have reached saturation point and the casual disregard of pointless equipment is indicative.Most of my Nursing colleagues are on to this bullshit.

No one believes it.

These two masks are on my kitchen table right now, I’m a builder, which do you think is most likely to protect you from a deadly pandemic:

https://imgur.com/a/XKVRyZW

Probably neither.

which do you think is most likely to protect you from a deadly pandemic

I don’t know, but if we ever get one maybe you could do some tests for us?

Put the blue one in a sanwitch bag….sorted (as long as you duct tape round the edges).
99% safe, for up to about two minutes, then as breathing ceases 100% safe for the rest of eternity.

The winklepickers offer the most protection

That goes to show that all this is simply for show and no-one seriously believes that masks really do anything positive. During my walks I’ve lost count of how many discarded masks I’ve seen, how people shove them into bags and pockets together with used tissues and other things, how they constantly touch their faces while wearing it, etc.

As I’ve been constantly wondering, where are the biohazard bins?

I saw a young healthy looking builder in the petrol station this weekend. His mask – with a Jaws design – was unbelievably filthy. Still, where there’s muck there’s brass.

The woman serving me yesterday at the cafe where I was ordering takeaway was constantly fiddling with her mask while operating the till then moving on to make our coffees!

“If you re going to keep fiddling about with your mask while making my coffee, then - I don t want the coffee”.

History Repeating?
Deja Vu: The Swine Flu Vaccination Fraud of 1976

If the vaccine is 100% safe why do they need immunity from civil litigation?
Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) (Described Concisely)

Do you trust the Pfizer vaccine?
A Trustworthy Vaccine – Pfizer

Is moderna any better?
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. ~ Interviews Dr. David Martin about Fauci, Moderna, Corruption

Informed consent?
The Mirror Project – Vaccination-ism

If you tried covid19 pandemic in a court of law, by a jury of 12 good men & women. What would the verdict be?
Corona The Simple Truth in Under 6 Minutes

What if you tried the government? The Simpsons Knew It All Along

Do masks work? Face masks – a 2020 timeline,who’s u-turn & still no high quality evidence

Apparently not.

Medical Tyranny: CDC Announces All Travelers Must Wear Two Masks, Threatens Arrest

Not two masks. At least two layers, meaning not the one you made out of an old sock, or a bandanna.
Still stupid, tyrannical and useless, of course. I wonder who just bought shares in a firm that manufactures face knickers?

Oh come on, Annie. Two layers of fuck-all use must be better than one layer of . . . . . (I’d call it magical thinking but instead it’s good, plain old tyranny and humiliation, straight out of the Biderman torture playbook). Oh and, as you point out, all that lovely money to be made!

https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/08/23/dr-lee-merritt-dismantling-the-official-lies-of-the-covid-crisis/

Dr Lee Merritt had it all bang-to-rights back in August. This is a brilliant talk. MW

Very good, thanks.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-2.3-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617

Very, very different noises coming from the Thai CCSA (Centre for Covid Situation Administration) today:

“The CCSA’s Dr Taweesin said that though the virus situation in many provinces is improving, people still need to maintain good hygiene practices, at least until the virus becomes a regular disease that health authorities can handle.”

That sounds like the beginnings of an admission that zero covid is unattainable. I’m slightly encouraged. (Which by the standards of 2020 and 2021, and despite the appalling and illegal prohibition on British citizens leaving their own country, makes this a very good morning.)

Good Morning to you, too, NN.

Glad you’re back.

welcome back NN – great to hear your stories!

SAGE have completely lost their minds.

In the first article ATL, Jonathon links to the DT article mentioning that social distancing might need to stay until late in the year. The Mail also covers this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9207135/Covid-UK-Social-distancing-remain-place-YEAR.html

Look at the graphs! Look at the death numbers – total insanity!

These people are insane.

But then we knew that.

After world war two german officers etc fled into hiding. Simon Wiesenthal perhaps the most famous name to track them down for years afterwards.

The wonderful world of make believe modelling. Why bother ever doing any proper science again ….

WTF is the ‘Rule of Six’? I hope the virus knows about it as I certainly don’t.

WTF?? Scary stuff!

I posted this late last night in a reply to a post about Captain Sir Tom Moore; a reader thought the day-shift might enjoy it:

Handjob is currently on ancestor.co.uk trying to find out if he’s a family member.

Astonishing scenes in the Commons today when the Secretary of State for Health, Matt Handjob, announced, while wiping tears from his eyes, “My mum’s mate’s auntie’s second cousin’s dad’s uncle’s pal’s step-sister-in-law’s daughter Susan’s Grandad has died. Tom was like a father to me…”

Right, now set it to music and turn it into a hit single.
( Hancock, The Opera )

The PsyOpera?

Twilight of the Frauds.

In a builder and this is my kitchen table.

There are two masks on it, one of them complies with health and safety regulations to stop you inhaling nasty dust that isn’t great but won’t kill you.

The government says that the other one is great for dealing with your exposure to a deadly killer pandemic virus and must be adopted by the entire population to save lives and sand the NHS

Which is which..

Answers on a postcard please

https://imgur.com/a/XKVRyZW

Yes I agree with you, ironically one reason I do not wear a face mask is throat and respiratory problems probably related to agricultural and chemical (seed plant) dust exposure. When I worked on dust prevention later in my career it was clear that dust protection was very hard to achieve and in fact where possible the real solution was to put dust extraction on the process rather than try and rely on individual masks.

If it is that hard to keep out building, agricultural and chemical dusts how a simple piece of cloth is supposed to keep out a much smaller virus particle is completely beyond me?

It’s not even cloth, it’s paper.

Laughable.

And the sheep believe it.

There really is one born every minute. Millions and millions of them actually.

And someone else is laughing all the way to the bank …

The one that I want to wear is £22 in screwfix and worth every penny. The other however ?? It’s just BS

Remember that face knickers are supposed to keep the virus in , so that you don’t breathe death upon others but keep it all to yourself. Dust masks are supposed to keep dust out .

You try both on and make your mind up after that.

Have worn dust mask while doing diy. Will die before wearing face knickers.

You don’t breathe death, you inhale it instead.

Actually government advice is that people should cut up an old T-shirt and make it into a face covering. The government even provides a handy how to guide: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-wear-and-make-a-cloth-face-covering/how-to-wear-and-make-a-cloth-face-covering

Phew – that’s a relief. We’re saved

The virus most likely escaped from a Level 4 laboratory. A helluva lot more secure than a PPE.

I followed the Twitter link from the opening piece, and I actually thought for a second that this image was from a parody account – it’s not. Welcome to life under the Great Reset, where only well-connected elites can leave the country.

I wonder how all of those Z list, ex-reality show Instagram mercenaries feel about their government now? Just a few months ago they were happy to take taxpayers’ money to lecture their followers to stay at home, now they’ll be traipsing through a marshy Welsh caravan park this summer instead of the golden sands of Dubai.

Useful idiots the lot of them.

How can you stop me travelling? How by any edict can this be right. I should be free to go where I want, its fucking disgusting you cannot make this illegal just because you say so. This must be a signed off act of parliament not just a sweep of a pen by the awful Pratty Patel.

I do not suppose I am the only one to see the irony of this morning’s news about a military take over in Myanmar and how China is expected to support the military coup. A rather more dramatic style than the UK Junta adopted to enact their coup of the UK but ironic nonetheless to think that that the peoples of the UK and Myanmar now share a common link of oppressive authoritarian government with huge restrictions on freedoms.

To be fair Aung San Suu Kyi was on a very short leash anyway Leader in name only
It was always the Military

She is a CIA stooge, hence the prominent positive MSM coverage.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/onWqOMszB3Pc/

Dr Simone Gold, from America’s Frontline Doctors addressing a seminar of medical professionals on covid lies, effectiveness of alternative treatments, the risks of participating in the experimental gene therapy trial and the reasons underlying minority groups rejecting traditional vaccines.

Probably the most informative video I have watched yet.

I was impressed with this, too. The FBI arrested her after Biden took office. Shocking! Go to her twitter page.

You see this is what we should not be tolerating. Good honest people being arrested for telling the truth.

I’m not on twitter, which is probably a good thing.

For me, the scariest thing was her assertion that this treatment was tested during a previous outbreak of cornavirus on ferrets. They showed no adverse effects when injected with the two doses of the treatment, UNTIL the wild coronavirus was introduced. All the test subjects died.

She made it quite clear that she wasn’t saying it was going to happen, just we have no idea if it will or not, because it hasn’t been properly tested beford engaging humans in the experimental trial.

The implications, if this were to happen with billions around the world having been enrolled in the trial, are too horrendous to contemplate.

Antibody-Dependent Enhancement

The Improbability of the Rapid Development of a Vaccine for SARS-CoV-2
Kevin V. Morris

“There is little doubt that humankind would love nothing more than to have a viable vaccine to CoV-2. However, there are objective realities for why we do not yet have a vaccine for coronaviruses in cats, Dengue, Ebola, and HIV in humans, and this is because all of these viruses induce some level of ADE. Moreover, it is exceedingly challenging to dissect and control an immune system that has co-evolved with viruses for millions of years. It is for these reasons, based on an abundance of previously published studies on ADE and coronaviruses, that I am concerned by the lack of focus and/or concerted efforts toward the rapid development of therapeutics specifically tailored for CoV-2.”

Not “too horrendous to contemplate”, exactly what they originally intended to happen. However, the virus was nowhere near as virulent as they hoped.

Gottseidank.

DM headline…
“Pray for captain Tom”
No.
With no disrespect to the mam, who seems like a lovely guy, I am not praying for the recovery of a 100 year old man with pneumonia. If he gets better I am happy for him and his family, but this is insane now. We have become immortal?

I do hope he outlives the coronabollox, because can you imagine the lying in in Westminster Abbey, the state funeral, the orgies of zombie hysteria?

indeed – a martyr of the covid cult

Actually you do have a point. I don’t think I want to see another Diana Episode. Once in a lifetime is too much!

To be honest that was when I first realised I was sharing the planet with total morons. It was a very clear warning about what was to come with this. As a rational individual you are powerless against the tyranny of the moronic majority.

The moronic masses have been given WAY WAY WAY to much power in the Corona scam. This fundamentally is the problem. Throw in a good deal of pure evil and it’s a heady blend.

I’m glad I was only 3 months old when she died. I remember my mum telling me that her mother-in-law phoned when it happened, completely devastated, and my mum thought she was completely taking the piss and started mocking along with her! They’ve never got along but I expect this made relations even worse.

Whichever Gallagher brother said ‘she’s dead – get over it’ was spot on!

Everybody MUST live forever.
By orders of HMG.

Living in the UK 2021 style???
” Oh, they call it livin’, Baby, someone’s lyin”

He was in fine fettle till he got that infected telegram from Liz.

Or when they took him on a long haul flight?

Or jabbed him

But the quality of life must be worse than death.

who’d want to live to be a hundred? Someone who’s 99.

I bet it’s true!

With living being redefined as ‘not dying’ aka vegetating.

that fellow who said “they love life, we love death” must be laughing his socks off

I agree.

What amazed me was that according to his family he became ill after a Xmas break in Barbados!

100 year olds get Xmas breaks to Barbados?

My nan was 96 when she died, she never even got a Xmas break in Blackpool – or anywhere else.

Yeah, and I bet she didn’t have a garden the size of a football pitch (actually I have no idea what the size of a football pitch is, but it sounds and looks good, don’t it?).

The rest of Yorkshire got one day. Not really long enough to get to Barbados and back.

Another fucking stooge as if he raised all that dosh Joe public are thick but they don’t like giving their beer, lottery and fag money away

Am I the only one to notice the irony of the description of the link ATL to the large attendance at an Ulster Volunteer Force funeral.

There was a time in the past where the description would have been that all the attendees wore masks.

Snarlene was recently bitching about Republicans attending funerals en masse – will she be as quick to condemn her own?

Captain Tom Moore in hospital with Covid:WAIT FOR IT!!!!

Oh dear, I can just imagine the hysteria over on breakfast telly right now.

Stop press.100 year old man ill in hospital.

And Piers Morgan yelling into the camera that it is our fault that his hero is now in hospital …

He’s been ill with pneumonia but all anyone will hear is COVID

Covid is pneumonia

My sister in law died from pneumonia last April. She did not have Covid! Pneumonia has been around forever, before Covid was even thought of.

no, no, surely death and disease only appeared in 2020? it never happened at all before them

Pneumonia can be caused by many different pathogens viral and bacterial.

I bet he’ll survive it. A lot of it is kind over matter and he’s not overweight

I fully agree, these covid weaklings need to pull themselves together, get fit, lose weight, get out into the fields….

They’ll probably be giving him ivermectin on the sly.
Unless they want him to be a martyr, in which case, he’s no chance.

Did he catch it in hospital? Nice way for the NHS to thank him

Well we will never be told … but he was tested AFTER admission!

Wouldn’t he have been vaccinated? Does anyone know???

His daughter said he hasn’t because of his being ill with pneumonia for a few weeks. The Captain don’t need no steenkin’ vaccine.

Has she been paid to say that?

Jesus wept. As much as I hope he recovers, the news coverage is too much. I fear that he will be the Princess Diana of our current time.

Can we find a way to smuggle him in some ivermectin?

Maybe hidden in some Werthers Originals?

And the Fishermen’s Friends

What about hiding them amongst flowers and his favourite sweets?

Flowers? Are you crazy? Flowers are strictly forbidden in today’s ‘caring’ NHS. Massive vectors of disease, apparently.

Not aimed at you Bart (obvs) …

I think they were already not allowed long before this shit show. but yeah, I can see them panicking even more because of Covid.

Yes they were banned before, as I found out to my cost. When I tried to take some in for my mum to cheer her up, I was set upon by a Hattie Jacques type for my not knowing the ‘rules’.

The press would love a new Princess Di moment. Kaching!

I’m so glad we don’t watch live TV. I really couldn’t bear the feverish virtue signalling hogwash from MSM.

105 year old babushka in Russia laughs off covid.

100 year old man in UK used as prop to promote fear

Does he actually have the symptoms of covid, or is it just a positive test result?

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He already had pneumonia so how would you spot any additional covid symptoms? Definitely will have been tested though.

I would expect pneumonia to be a complication of being ill / over-stressed and bed-ridden. So was there a real case of covid, something else (influenza?) or was he dumped in a hospital (because positive test result?) only to catch pneumonia there?

How does this end?

With a reduced population. Wind turbines everywhere. No shops. No bars. No holidays. Forever in masks.

I think if SAGE have their way. Any news on Italy?

Many restrictions relaxed. See earlier post.

No jobs unless you work in the Corona KGB. Soviet style apartment buildings because you won’t own much.

6 million, all slaves? Enough windmills, dams and solar panels already?

Fancy that.

When people finally wake up and say “enough”. But that won’t happen until they are hit in the pocket. One thing is for sure, the majority don’t give a flying f**k about their liberty.

The roads are busy in comparison to lockdown 1. But I think the government is swayed by what public opinion seems to be – and they seem to be broadly supportive.

Turn off the magic money machine and there would be civil unrest. Furlough is what keeps the sheep bleating happily.
Or turn off footie and deprive the peasants of the bread and circuses. How many tight short wearing footie fairies died of CV again? Don’t see them wearing diapers or distancing.

The furlough and fearporn are the only things keeping the Big Lie going.

Many people managed to get away abroad last year but now their annual ‘Holiday In The Sun’ is illegal and this may sway them out of complacent acceptance.

During the whole of the credit crunch/ austerity crisis I only ever heard one heartfelt complaint which was from a young man who seemed to think that it was a breach of his human rights for his bank to refuse yet another loan which he needed to finance his annual fortnight in Ibeza.

Our holiday was cancelled last year. It was the first year we never went on holiday.

But you thought it was a one off sacrifice to keep the country safe from the Covid?

I haven’t been in a plane since 2010.

Something like this might help to wake up the masses:

“Work (for those lucky enough to have a job), supermarket, home. That’s your future from now on. No holidays, no pubs, no large-scale entertainment. Just pigging out on your sofa and watching trash on a screen.”

Unfortunately some people would be happy enough like that for the rest of their lives. But enough wouldn’t that they might just wake up. Maybe the scenario I’ve described is too pessimistic, but it’s looking likely for 2021 at least.

For myself, I’m not too bothered if I don’t go abroad this year, and I’d be disappointed but not devastated if I never went abroad again. But even in the UK I don’t want to go anywhere on holiday if it means vaccine certificates, masks, distancing, one-way systems, pre-booking, queuing, limited numbers, track & trace (is that still going?), eating in your hotel room, staff getting stroppy if you step out of line, and any other bollocks which I’ve forgotten to mention.

Very true. They dont care. As long as they are ‘safe’

Look at the population forecasts on Deagel.com

If you want more information on that, watch Tru News’ video on it.

https://www.trunews.com/stream/deagel-doom-mysterious-website-reveals-more-about-2025-mass-death

Georgia Guide Stones.

• …..
• Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
• …..
• Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
• …..

Looking at the news from Israel we can see how things might progress here.
After everyone has been vaccinated there will be no let up in lockdown policy because of the scary new variants.
These will require more lockdown and different vaccines.
The future is one of perpetual lockdown and vaccination.The government are already seeding the idea that there will be no let up of restrictions during the summer and Vallance said new vaccines may be needed.
This is the new normal we were promised.

Correct. It’s nothing to do with a virus, it’s to do with the fact that they can’t bow remove the furlough payments from the system without it collapsing. So it has to migrate to UBI. They don’t have a choice. To get that to happen they need to keep the fear alive.

If they try to open it up now most small business and retail with collapse, with that will go tax revenues (already fucked) and the fundamentals of the system inplode

It’s not good

Yes spot on on the Hindoo magic money machine. Knickknack will announce UBI this spring I believe. To wild applause. The markets will go up. The sheeple will bleat their profound thanks. And taxes will go up. The fantasy world staggers on. The Corona KGB have to permanently implement UBI or face unrest because the real unemployment is 25%. The whole circus will end one day very badly. Knickknack is of course a Golden Slacks-Rothschild millionaire. Unaffected.

And in the meantime, people who pay a lot of tax are eyeing up jobs elsewhere to avoid having to pay for this fiasco. I can see it coming.
I know a lot of these people through work, and it’s going to happen.

Spot-on, Sophie. That sort of person doesn’t hang about waiting to be taxed. This is the ultimate stupidity exhibited by (normally Labour) Chancellors.

Presumably people like Sunak are looking to preserve their wealth by putting it into things or digital currency. Perhaps somebody with an economist’s insight can advise how this plays out? Perhaps you are that person, Ferd?

Put all your savings into toilet rolls if you’re feeling flush. But don’t flush. That would be pouring all your money down the drain.

A few years ago, when we could see this coming (most definitely not the virus, we weren’t in the “beyond evil” club who are told these things before they happen) the two forum groups of which I was a member were having astonishingly-animated discussions on this very subject.

We came to the conclusion that precious metals and top-quality, transportable antiques and collectibles, land and property were the things to buy. Since then, property has been removed from the list for some people, because it is able to be easily subjected to swinging taxes and is much more likely to be subjected to excessive regulation (which we have seen recently). It is also part of the Great Reset confiscation, so that’s another reason.

Before you attempt to buy any of these items, we recommended that all households have two weeks’ worth of food/consumables and two weeks’ worth of cash on hand; and the government had actually publicised this recommendation some years ago.

Thank you.

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1355856699219988483

Ten staffmembers in a hospital got C-19 ten days after the second dose of the vaccine.Just an anecdotal report and the trials said 7% would be susceptible.But?

Don’t forget that it’s not just one jab per person it’s going to be every year, so it’s a never ending job worldwide –

Bibi is a despicable human being.

I couldn’t have put it better myself

We need a new section for ‘Lockdown zealot’ theme tunes.

Here’s one they might like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLhcg_FU9g

Lyrics:

Three wheels on my wagon,
And I’m still rolling along
The Cherokees are chasing me
Arrows fly, right on by
But I’m singing a happy song

I’m singing a higgity, haggity, hoggety, high
Pioneers, they never say die
A mile up the road there’s a hidden cave
And we can watch those Cherokees
Go galloping by

SPOKEN: “George, they’re catching up to us!”
“Get back in the wagon woman!”

Two wheels on my wagon,
And I’m still rolling along
Them Cherokees are after me
Flaming spears, burn my ears
But I’m singing a happy song

I’m singing a higgity, haggity hoggety, high
Pioneers, they never say die
Half a mile up the road there’s a hidden cave
And we can watch those Cherokees
Go galloping by

SPOKEN: “Duh, Paw? Are you sure this is the right road?”
“Will you hush up? You and your…….

I had that as an acrylic 78rpm single with a wind up HMV gramophone record player on which to listen to it and about a dozen others.

I imagine reference to Cherokees will mean Three Wheels On My Wagon is now cancelled.

The lyrics still work if ‘Cherokees’ refers to the Jeep 4×4 of that name?

Nope can’t call it that anymore. Rude to native Americans. Same as the Washington Redskins American football team are now just Washington. Snappy.

Washington wanted to keep the
Redskins but it was the major sponsors of their new stadium that threatened to pull out if they didn’t drop it.
Half the teams in the NFL need to change their names as it’s probably classed as offensive to someone.

Yes especially those racist Patriots!

It was a regular on Junior Choice presented by Ed “Stewpot” Stewart. As was “Puff the Magic Dragon”, which I hated with a passion because it was wet and wimpy and I thought I was tough.

On yesterday’s walk, we were passed by a car whose driver was masked up, which led to a spontaneous reworking of Madness’s “Driving in my car”

I’ve been driving in my mask
They told me to, I didn’t ask
I gladly bought in to the fear
We don’t want no Covid here

Hancock can take a hike. My rights as a free woman have been stolen from me and there is no hope in hell of me injecting a chemical into my body with no certainty of getting my freedom back!

The disappearance of flu strikes me as signifying something very important. The lockdownistas assert it is the result of improved hand washing, social distancing, and other non-pharmaceutical anti-coronavirus interventions. This explanation suffers from the obvious problem that those interventions have not resulted in the disappearance of Covid 19. If the interventions can effectively prevent the transmission of one respiratory viral disease, they would simultaneously prevent the transmission of any other.

So why has flu disappeared? I don’t know, and apparently neither does anyone else. In the absence of any plausible explanation for its disappearance, perhaps it may be wise to assume it has not disappeared. Perhaps, in all the madness around the coronavirus, flu is simply not being noticed, with people generally not presenting to doctors, and when forced to do so due to the severity of their symptoms being misdiagnosed.

There is one implication of this apparent disappearance of flu: flu vaccines for the next flu season are likely to be even less effective than usual as a result of the flu vaccine developers not having access to sample this season’s mutations.

I assumed the disappearance of flu was due to reduced international travel. The flu season in North and South Hemispheres seeding each other. I don’t know though.

But lockdown will give us a whole host or problems – kids should be mingling and building their resistance. This isn’t natural for body or mind.

Flu began to disappear globally in January 2020.

According to a graph posted here some time back, it disappeared completely in March

interesting – maybe this viruses outcompeting each other theory

Maybe more rationally, flu is now just renamed as CV 19.

Didn’t the Irish doctor (Dolores Cahill?) retest a huge cohort who’d been given positive covid tests results and discover they all actually tested positive for influenza A & B? I think I read that somewhere.

I know she retested some swabs and got that result. Not sure it was a huge number. Anyone have the reference?

It was 1500

https://www.bitchute.com/video/J6KiWAKjws0a/

Thanks

When people only present to the health system when they are really very unwell, unlike in previous seasons, and then that health system tests and tests and tests until it gets the magic positive result then we can’t trust any numbers.
The struggle I have now is believing the Health Service about anything going forward.
The vaccine may be perfectly safe, but without transparency, how do I know?
We may well still be in a high prevalence phase of the pandemic (I very much doubt it but it could be true), but with all the manipulation of the data, how do I know?
Give me facts, not manipulation and predictions from modelling.

One thing I do know is lockdowns don’t work, are hugely damaging and inhumane. And that is what this site should be focussing on. We are not lockdown sceptics because we surely know enough now to be completely anti-lockdown not just sceptical.

agreed! I’m not simply questioning the lockdowns, I am fully opposing them. there is nothing they could say which would convince me that I’m wrong. it’s case closed, for me

look out for the equally mysterious disappearance of cancer, heart disease, strokes, other infectious diseases, getting shot in the face, etc, – soon there will be only 1 cause of death

To anyone who deals in practical matters or has to make measurements, the obvious answer to why the flu isn’t there is that it hasn’t been recorded properly. Only when you can show that that is not the case can we start looking at other reasons.

And we know from published papers and from government changes to reporting policy that the flu is being ignored or dismissed due to either lack of testing and/or priority of Covid.

Flu is now CV 19? A more likely explanation which explains the death porn and the lack of reported flu deaths.

Exactly! If the symptoms are there, and you test for covid and it’s positive, then you don’t test for flu (which would be the more accurate test!)

Anyone who sneezes or coughs will be diagnosed with Covid. I don’t understand why people refuse to believe our government isn’t corrupt.

as will anybody who’s been run over by a bus

From reading an article yesterday, flu viruses are of similar size (100 nanometres) to SARs, so anyone using the measures have prevented flu excuse can be easily debunked … but then on the other hand, when did sense and rational thinking prevail.
I note Haddock is ruminating about a normal summer …. if… Of course the sheep will fall for yet another carrot, forgetting the previous broken promises of just three weeks, just until summer, just a circuit breaker, just so we can have a normal Christmas, just until the vaccine arrives, until the vulnerable are vaccinated, until Easter, until summer … will the penny ever drop?

Lots of adverts last night showing families enjoying beautiful sandy beaches and crystalline seas in Greece and Turkey. Have the frogs been boiled enough for them to forgo all that for another year?

Will the penny ever drop with MPs?

Don’t expect any support from that bunch of oxygen wasters. They’re all looking after their own interests.

The penny did drop – £10,000 + to go along with it all. Plus an 11% pay rise?

And the rest…

it is fucking outrageous that 70 million people are hanging eagerly on the promises and assurances of this weasely little man, begging for his gracious permission to live their lives…when will they finally tell him to fuck off

Jane, I love you!

If Sars-Cov2 spreads more like a cold then it can just get to the nearly dead club more easily- therefore depriving flu of its natural reservoir (for now)
The elephant in the room is what has happened to Hc0v-Oc43 and the other Coronaviruses

Looking at the FOI above the line this implies flu is responsible for nearly all the deaths of those without comorbidities that were chalked down to Covid. Explains something. Covid just carries the old, sick and frail over the line. The rest are taken by flu.

Yes and all deaths from flu-pne-resp now counted as CV.

It hasn’t disappeared its been reassigned as Covid.

Have a look at Australia’s 2019 flu, very strange.

Occams Razor.

I always assumed we were being ironic when we said that ‘flu has “disappeared”. Although we used to say we had either a cold/flu and now people instead say they have covid, the true reality is neither….we have LOTS of respiratory viruses. Some winters some are going to be prevalent than others but none are going anywhere. The reason that most are now categorised as covid is because IT’S THE ONLY WE TEST FOR. Think about it…when did anyone in healthcare ever offer you a test for rhinovirus, respiratory syncytial virus, parainfluenza or influenza, metapneumovirus, other coronaviruses (x6?) adenoviruses, bocaviruses…etc. If we did the same PCR tests for all these endemic viruses then it might finally show the true picture.

Yes but also it’s been suggested that masks should be worn as protection against flu in the future in certain circumstances. Masks are a weapon of mass stupidity.

Especially after over 40 real studies, proper studies into masks stopping the spread of Flu not showing ANY effect WHATSOEVER of masking on stopping flu going back to 1910

oh, flu is just hiding in plain sight

Flu disappearance is due to it being called covid, simples.

Con-demic

Flu has changed its pronoun to Covid-19.

CV is trans-virus?

Not Tamiflu but Trannyflu

Wouldn’t Captain Tom Moore have been vaccinated?

I think it was said yesterday that he wasn’t ’cause pneumonia; vaccine therefore can’t be blamed if he sadlidies at the tragically early age of 100.

No one cared that he had been ill with pneumonia for 3 weeks, until of course one of his incessant PCR tests came back positive. Now he’s in line for the honour of a sadlidied meeja-induced furore.

At 100 years of age he’s lived longer than he should have done. Death happens, I really cannot understand people’s morbid fear of it, it will happen to all of us eventually so why waste what life we have left by cowering in our homes wasting it? It’s sheer lunacy.

It will be sad when he dies. He seems a very decent chap and we’re running short on those. But as you are all saying, it won’t be a tragedy. The fear mongers would play it for all its worth as if living to 100 was a life cut short!

IFR from being born is 100%

He does seem a decent chap, but he’s become a tool of the media and they’ll use him to push their agenda.

Agree. The Good Book says that there is a time to be born so ergo there will be a time to die too. Since when did immortality become a human right?

People have forgotten that its the quality of life that matters NOT quantity. Captain Tom has had a good run and if he does meet his Creator then it will be a life well lived not a tragedy.

yes- with the whole of next week lying still before him!

Ted Bundy has been at it again. The smirking mass killer making more outlandish claims

Of course the other major indictment of the management of this Influenza Like Illness season is that, with high PCR test cycle thresholds, the younger age groups testing positive for covid 19 and critically ill are most likely also to be suffering from a strain of influenza, which adversely affects younger age groups.

The critically ill older age groups, the ones adversely affected by covid 19 and other endemic common cold coronaviruses (the real covid 19 patients) due to a shortage of beds and staff due to government interventions, have, in the last few weeks, been given palliative care only as a policy decision.

That is the reason for increased overall all cause mortality of the last few weeks, that ONS figures show have occurred within the more elderly age groups.

Another one for Amnesty International to investigate…….

If SARS-CoV-2 virus were to vanish suddenly and completely without our knowledge and the linear flow testing were to continue, it could never be proven that it was no longer around. The reason being is the specificity of the LFT is not 100%, it is around 99%, but that means for every 100 tests there can be up to 1 false positives. If there are 1000 tests then up to 10 false positives (could be zero but more likely be non zero). Increase that to 100000 tests then there could be up to 1000 false positives. If the whole human population were tested there would be up to 70 million false positives or the entire population of the U.K..
If a football club of 100 players and staff, is tested twice a week for 12 weeks, I.e. 2500 tests, then during that time there could be up to 25 positive results even though no one is actually infected, matches are postponed for 10 days.
If 1000 hospital staff in one trust are tested twice a week then in one week there could be up to 20 false positives every week.
This is why Ivor Cummins suggests that if a person tests positive then they stay at home for 3 days and repeat the LF test, two positives would suggest infection, but a positive followed by a negative would suggest an initial false positive and no infection.

Positive test error rate is more like 60%.

These figures are based on the specificity from the test manufacturers. The real point is that it makes a nonsense of a zero SARS-CoV-2 policy which now ranks alongside time travel, faster than light travel and a flat Earth.

Oh, I think we’re more likely to manage warp speed that zero Covid.

How about Zero traffic accidents. When I was in the U.S. Army all our styrofoam drinking cups had ‘Zero Defects’ printed on them. That was 1968.

The Australians and NZ landers are finding that the nearer you get to the speed of light the more energy you require and you can never actually get there unless you have zero mass.

Time travel is here. Government policy will put the economy back 20-30 years. As for FTL, we would have it already if that denier Einstein hadn’t spread his ‘theory’ that it is impossible. Nowadays he’d be cancelled from his job as a Patent Clerk class 2!

Oh no its better than that. Back to medieval times. All trapped in country and work is done on your farm (laptop) so you never leave your town. You only do what your serf king Lord Handjob says you can do

presented without comment

True Covidian religious piety. Triple Diaper. But only Priests can triple diaper. Does this man have the proper Covidian religious training and confirmation?

Is that one for each chin?

That mask would be perfect for Rachel Levine, Biden’s new Health Secretary.

Above the line. March to June 2020. 4500 died from and due only to CV 19. The same from the normal flu-pneum-respiratory?.

Normally, past 5 yrs, 1200-1500 die a week from flu-pneu-resp each year in March, up to end of April dropping to about 800-900 by June.

So they want you to believe that the usual dead count from flu etc March 1 to June 30th, which is usually +/- 18 K or more; is now down to 4.5 K? [60-70 K die a year from flu etc every single year or roughly 5-6 k a month; roughly 200 a day even during the summer.]

This was before the diapers; extended LDs and complete shutdown of your world.

So let me guess where the 15 K dead from the normal flu etc March to June 2020 went? Right into the CV 19 category?

This is an outrageous data fraud.
Tell me again why the flu has disappeared and CV flourishes?

March to June is outside the normal flu season so a goodly number of the excess deaths in that huge April spike were likely more to do with the removal of care from the frail elderly combined with dumping the Covid-infected into care homes and high pollution in April in the SE. The latter may have been heavily implicated in a lot of the Lombardy deaths back in February – Swiss Doctor had a good map of the time showing this.

Agree and not just CV but flu in general or infectious disease in general, moving the sick from the hospital to unprepared nursing homes. 8-10.000 dead from that policy. Used to be called murder.

Let’s be kind and call it manslaughter and malfeasance in public office.

I don’t really mind what it’s called, I just want the perpetrators brought to justice and sooner rather than later.

So likely non covid excess death at home. PHE data for march 2020 to jan 2021 show 34,364 excess deaths at home of which only 12% were attributed to covid.

Indeed. Which is why the respiratory deaths graph on the CEBM site, dated 29 September 2020, showed no spike for April/May.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/summary-of-the-ons-report-on-deaths-registered-weekly-in-england-and-wales-29nd-september/

To be fair they did tell us in advance they they were going to do this.
A surprisingly large proportion of the population are aware.

We are to believe that
A. Flu has disappeared because of masks, social distancing and lockdown
B. Covid (inc mutants) is rife because we are not doing enough masking, lockdown and social distancing.

Flu has also ‘disappeared’ in Sweden and Belarus – so these measures cannot be the cause.

Howver, in Cambodia sith only a few hundred covid ‘cases’ – and no deaths – flu has continued.

Work that one out.

I had heard that about Cambodia but could not recal the source.

I’m sick of the prejudice

If the flu virus wants to realign itself as Covid 19 then in these more enlightened times it must be allowed to do so

Who are we to say what it should call itself? It must be free to live the life it wants without fear of ridicule

Some people need to address their transphobia, and yes I mean you at the back

You sound like Titania McGrath.

And it probably hates womxn too.

Awomen.

There was a report from the IPPR that ‘austerity’ killed 130,000 people

https://www.ippr.org/files/2019-06/public-health-and-prevention-june19.pdf#page=8

“Had the trend from 1990 and 2012 continued, we estimate that there could have been 130,000 deaths averted between 2012 and 2017.”

This was widely reported by ‘anti-austerity’ media such as the BBC and Guardian.

Well, we have a lot of austerity coming which I don’t think SAGE are factoring into their ‘cost/benefit’ analysis

If you are in a group called SPI-M that just does modelling I guess it is hard to look up from your monitor and see all the empirical evidence and actual hard data out there in the real 3D world. Maybe there ought to be an SPI-R that does this. Membership comes with a free plane ticket to Stockholm.

Why would an endemic virus that did absolutely nothing last summer, suddenly become aggressive and a pandemic this year. Does your stupid model take into account actuals from the whole of Europe? You know where levels dropped for every country in summer? Did you take into account immunity in the population this time? Are we allowed to see this report so some grown ups can analyse your data. What a great job, whatever you say us right and nothing is ever challenged.

Some reports of weekend protests in Europe.
https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/31/we-ve-had-enough-in-france-spain-and-denmark-anti-lockdown-protests-continue?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=en&utm_content=we-ve-had-enough-in-france-spain-and-denmark-anti-lockdown-protests-continue&_ope=eyJndWlkIjoiZTA1YzY0MTY4ODlkYzU4ZDMzYjI0N2YxOTIxMDFlMWUifQ%3D%3D#vuukle-comments-1371346

At least they are putting up a protest? What’s happening here and where can we join in…..?

I don’t think there will be any major protests here until furlough stops.

Belgium too, although difficult to find out about the protests.

The first European country that takes a deep breath and opens fully with no restrictions, all welcome, will clean up economically. Would any dare?

Does the IOM count ?

The “all welcome” criteria might be a bit hard to meet, the borders are closed to us sadly.

I hope there is room in this comment section for some satire?

https://medium.com/muddyum/confession-of-a-trillionaire-5ec945d11052?sk=d19d4924d08ba00a878db24bb30cef51

So the “scientists” say we can’t open pubs before May without risking a third wave. Where is the evidence that pubs had anything to do with transmission?
Also, the current Secretary of State for Health is saying we can’t have a great British Summer but he expects all adults to have been vaccinated. Well, that isn’t happening as those of us on here know.
So what next?

The question I would like to ask SAGE is did we even have a second wave or did they simply make it up?

Flu was on its 6000th wave until SAGE put it to the sword this year. I think they mean second season of an endemic disease.

Steph, please stop using their language.There was no second wave. What’s happening now are deaths from vaccines and so-called collateral issues.

I said that’s what they say. I didn’t say it myself, nor would I as I know we had the seasonal spike of endemic respiratory infections. Some of them will have been Covid but with the test until you find the false positive, we will never really know the numbers.

From what I remember, there is little evidence that the hospitality sector contributed greatly to infections. I think that the reason for keeping the pubs shut is, as some have previously suggested, to prevent discussion amongst people as to the need for lockdowns. Sadly though, pubs reopening may be academic as I doubt if some pubs will reopen at all. One that I used to frequent on a regular basis is all boarded up.

I used to live in Scotland and witnessed the Wile E Coyote like attempts by the Scottish Government to regulate the sale of alcohol. Nothing worked but it didn’t stop deranged MSPs from putting forward proposals no matter how bonkers and unworkable they were.

This crisis is a wet dream for the puritans and middle class do gooders because it deprives the ordinary Joe especially the working Joe of an outlet to relax at the end of a working day. But of course they have no problems with their darling Tarquin and Jacinta getting hammered whilst at uni because its “experience.”

Public Health is a Puritan Revolution. Put them on a boat and send them to America. It worked the first time.

Likewise hairdressers!

Indeed. The really ‘infectious’ things in the hospitality industry are ideas/thoughts/information and *they* don’t want that. That’s why we’ve been targeted – because we do not believe and we have to be controlled. It has absolutely eff all to do with ‘public health’.

There is a (not so) hidden prohibition agenda here. Sridhar in Scotland is quite open about her desire to ban alcohol. Drakeford is clearly warm to the idea and no doubt there are puritanical elements in the English political establishment.

There are significant health issues associated with excess alcohol consumption, yet apparently these are ignored when that consumption is fuelled by pointless lockdown home confinement. Social alcohol consumption is an important factor in many people’s lives.

if any political party wishes, as is it’s right, to enact any form of prohibition then let it state that clearly in it’s manifesto. Of course none will. Rather they will sit sipping their 20 year old malt planning how to stop Joe Public enjoying a beer after work.

Pubs are also dangerous because they encourage people to talk to others, who may have differing opinions, in a respectful manner. It is much harder to divide and rule a population who respect the opinion of others even if they don’t share that opinion. Social media is a politicians wet dream because it is all about conflict and entrenched, unwavering views.

Quite agree.In fact if you want to encourage damaging alcohol dependance then confining people to home is a great way to start, nicely increasing unhealthy eating and immune system depression in one go as well!
Utter madness

The entire fabric of British social life revolves around alcohol.Everything is an excuse for a piss up.The war against the hospitality sector is a strategy to keep people apart while they implement their plans.

don’t forget to add to that – it’s also the first phase in the drive to destroy small businesses [in the future there will be only the oligarchy of the MNCs] and a means of crushing people’s spirits, their will to live

And of course the sad fact is that a large amount of hospitality businesses are unviable if the number restrictions and gen Covid proof adaptations are still in place.
I myself supported some locals almost through a sense of duty as the staff are lovely people and they are independently owned – I dislike chains intensely. But on all sides the’Craic’ wasn’t great alas.
I’ve heard rumours that there have been out of court settlements Inc NDA ‘s for staff having respiratory problems after being forced to wear masks for long shifts. Would love to know more about that if indeed true.
MSM full of distractions this morning. Most hilarious is article in the I attacking Russia and Belarus for its lack of democracy, and what the West should do about it, while not appreciating the fact that although there are most def things to dislike about those regimes (and as an ex partner of mine was Russian I am no fan of the gangster Putin) the populace has more things approaching a normal life than here!

Typo. He actually said we could have a great British Summer. I don’t believe he really intends us to but perhaps we’ll just take it anyway?

The ‘scientist’ in this case who is first author on the report was interviewed on Sky. He has just completed his PhD, needs to attend to his personal grooming, and as has been pointed out (Telegraph poster) needs to be told that the 25% who are not vaccinated have a miniscule risk of having serious symptoms, let alone death. Impossible therefore after the first four groups have been vaccinated – assuming the vaccine ‘works’ – to have a third wave where daily deaths exceed the highest day recorded in January, when we are in the middle of the respiratory disease season and the most vulnerable who have died would not have been vaccinated.

What pubs..I know of 3 pubs in my area of Lo ndon that will never reopen. By May there will be hardly anything left to reopen..and BTW you will probably need Health passport to visit the ones left.

When the pubs have gone expect the banning of alcohol sales in supermarkets.

More likely the jacking up of alcohol taxes

Going on the STUPID track ‘n’trace app, hospitality (pubs & restaurants) accounted for something like 1% of known “transmissions” of the Rona. Obviously all bollocks but even then, a patheticly small number.

The reason pubs are shut is to stop us talking to each other.

Tell him to take a hike.

SAGE at it again to get masks worn outside to beat the ‘Kent variant’. Ominously article says that a communication strategy is being worked out.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9208455/Ministers-urge-people-wear-facemasks-outdoor-areas-SAGE-experts-say.html

I cannot, I will not consent to this utter madness….masks mandated outside. The anger I feel quietly courses through me meanwhile all my ‘friends’ accept all the covid policies without question. Psychological Coercion is now unfettered and unlimited……and the majority still accept without a whimper……they do indeed love their chains……

Me neither. Interestingly though, I think that am right in saying that the headline has been subtly changed to Parks and Crowded Places. My impression is that this was a typical ‘run it up the flagpole and see who salutes it’ exercise. I think that the DM was stung by the negative comments of readers, hence the toning down.

Does anyone have a copy of the SAGE recommendations about this – they said there was no point? Goes back to some minutes that were issued late summer.

I think this could be the spark similar to the curfew in Holland for mass civil disobedience.I will never wear a mask in the open air.

Is the ABL stuff now written by Neil O’Brien? You keep extolling vaccines and talk about cases, something that don’t exist, and there is little about positive steps for people to take.

ABL ?

All Bloody Lies

ABL=Above The Line
BTL=Below The Line

Should be ATL and not ABL.

Jonathan Barr continually shills the vaccines.

Remind on the little boy in HC Andersen story. The obvious truth

http://www.theblogmire.com/the-largest-experiment-on-humans-ever-seen/

“Which is the more reasonable approach a society might take in the outbreak of epidemic:
To quarantine the sick, and take reasonable precautions to stop those who are identified as vulnerable from contracting the illness.
To attempt to “control the virus” by preventing millions of healthy people from having contact with other healthy people.
To any society prior to 2020, it would have been obvious that the first approach is not only logical and proportionate, but the one least likely to have other unintended and highly destructive consequences. However, to my continued astonishment, many in our society not only believe that the answer is the second, but they somehow believe it to be based on established science.”

We are the Radio Luxemburg of the covid world

I absolutely love that! I’ve said it before but thank you for making me chuckle on a daily basis.

I created a marathon radio show seven years ago that included jingles and excerpts from Radio Luxembourg, Caroline, Mi Amigo, etc to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of Pirate Radio. Over 300 gigabytes of audio files. About 7 months of nonstop music, 24 hours a day.

Last Saturday Mr Bart & mine’s weekend exercise took us along the Royal Parks along Central London. Despite the drizzle, there was a fair number of people no doubt fed up with being cooped up at home and nowhere else to go.

As we reached Hyde Park, we were surprised that we counted 4 police mini vans with 7-8 police officers each just driving around aimlessly.

Why in the name of God do they need 4 vans with 28 police officers? It’s a big park and open space!!!

The more I think about this the angrier I get and I had the temptation to go up to them and ask them what they were doing and shouldn’t they be somewhere else like Tottenham? Brent? Brixton? You know, areas with high crime? Go after REAL criminals?

Is it because its easy to gaslight middle class people than it is people in deprived areas?

The police time and again have used “cuts” and “staffing numbers” as an excuse to say why they’ve not dealt with knife crime, theft, assault, domestic violence and anti-social behaviour. This clearly demonstrates they have the money and resources so the next time they bleat about “cuts” and “poverty” they should be told in no uncertain terms that they should take a hike.

They have a rule of 8? Favouritism.

Maybe people should have turned around and asked why were they not following regulations.

As we reached Hyde Park, we were surprised that we counted 4 police mini vans with 7-8 police officers each just driving around aimlessly.

how can people think this is normal? how did we get here? it just blows my mind

Exactly. And why are they not questioning why they’re there in the first place.

NEW PODCAST OUT NOW!

This one is a cracker! Unfortunately the link in the round up is to last week’s pod!

Ep18 ‘Politics, Science, Europe and Hope’

Politicians persecute scientists. Carl Heneghan vs NOBrien TOP TRUMPS!

Eu CV & the vaccine rollout.

UK Progress.

Soviet Russia & how we could be repeating the repressive mistakes of the past. SUB & rate us on itunes!

https://therealnormalpodcast.buzzsprout.com/1268768/7584277-ep-18-politics-science-europe-and-hope

Shocking report in the DM about the long term impact of school closures on future earning potential https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9208237/Covids-lost-generation-Devastating-report-lays-bare-350bn-toll-children.html

Yes, most children will never ‘catch up’ on their education, social interaction and even some sporting activities.

All these donated laptops will not improve learning – it’s a red herring

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW

The children with the well off parents with the sharp elbows will be fine. I expect a campaign to hobble the private schools led by the hypocrites who discover Catholicism or move to the correct postcode yet condemn the elitism of private education.

The children with the well off parents with the sharp elbows will be fine.

… only partly on the academic side, but they are also losing out on the other aspects.

Yes sadly the private schools will be attacked again because that is the only way that the government can try to hide their inability to fix the government schools.

At the nearby private school, 30% of the pupils have special learning needs – these children struggled in the government schools and did not get the required support. Even children without special learning needs do not get the attention and support that they need in government schools.

Just think if all this money that is being wasted by these draconian lockdown measures could have been pumped into schools and a well functioning healthcare system.

So Johnson last week promised millions of Pounds for Education. Wonder what they will spend that on and if it will make any difference? OR maybe just chucked into a big bottomless pit…….

I suspect that even the private schools will be overwhelmed by having to patch up whatever psychological damage that even kids with well off parents will have incurred because of this lockdown.

Kids regardless of socioeconmic status have lost massively and they will be carrying whatever damage this has caused them for the rest of their lives.

I reckon all those donated laptops are the equivalent of the collection of iron railings during WW2 to “aid the fight against the enemy”.

https://www.londongardenstrust.org/features/railings3.htm

About 30% of UK deaths are from cancer, far higher than caused by Covid. There are lots of NPIs (non-pharmaceutical interventions) that can be done, easily & cheaply to reduce cancer deaths.
Conversely, the NPIs we have taken to reduce Covid deaths have been ruinously expensive in terms of economic and health outcomes.
Approximately 42 percent of cancer cases and 45 percent of cancer deaths in the United States are linked to lifestyle related risk factors including excess weight, poor diet and physical inactivity, I don’t suppose it’s very different in the UK.
Mapping Risks Factors to Cancer Types
The study detailed the extent to which each risk factor contributed to each cancer type
Cigarette smoking was linked to – 81.7% of lung cancers
73.8% of laryngeal cancers
50% of esophageal cancers
46.9% of bladder cancers
Excess body weight was linked to 60.3% of uterine cancers
about one-third of liver cancers (33.9%)
11.3% of breast cancers in women
5.2% of colorectal cancers
Drinking alcohol was linked to almost one-half of oral cavity and pharyngeal cancers in men (46.3%) and one-fourth (27.4%) in women
24.8% of liver cancers in men and 11.9% in women
17.1% of colorectal cancers in men and 8.1% in women
6.4% of breast cancers in women
Eating red and processed meat was linked to 5.4% and 8.2% of colorectal cancers, respectively
Diet low in fruits and vegetables was linked to 17.6% of oral cavity/pharyngeal cancers
17.4% of laryngeal cancers
8.9% of lung cancers
Low dietary calcium was linked to 4.9% of colorectal cases
Low dietary fiber was linked to 10.3% of colorectal cancer cases
Physical inactivity was linked to 26.7% of uterine cancers
16.3% of colorectal cancers
3.9% of female breast cancers
HPV infection was linked to All cervical cancers
88.2% of anal cancers
64.6% of vaginal cancers
UV radiation from the sun or indoor tanning was linked to 96.0% of melanomas of the skin in men
93.7% of melanomas of the skin in women

https://www.aicr.org/news/new-study-links-cancer-and-cancer-deaths-to-lifestyle-factors/#:~:text=Approximately%2042%20percent%20of%20cancer,a%20study%20released%20last%20week .

Nothing is done about prevention as cancer is now one of the most lucrative businesses in the world. They cannot afford to let cancer rates drop. I worked in oncology which is why I refused chemo etc when I was diagnosed.

As I have said before on here – if you were to discover a cheap, effective cure for cancer you would be found naked and dead inside a zipped up holdall within 24 hours

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/gcmaf-and-persecution-david-noakes-lyn-thyer-immuno-biotech

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/04/899060875/scientists-discover-malignant-cancer-in-a-dinosaur

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jan/10/does-vitamin-d-combat-covid

I’m not normally a Guardian reader but every now and again they do have sensible articles.

Heads will roll!

Yes, our heads!

Meanwhile the gov are telling people not to get a sun tan

High levels of Vitamin D is all protective for developing cancer even skin cancer

CDC mandates (can they do this?) double masking on US public transportation.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/medical-tyranny-cdc-announces-all-travelers-must-wear-two-masks-threatens-arrest

So, how to you police double masks. Won’t one mask hide the other, or am I thick?

They check behind your ears for two sets of straps? Lunacy. But then the whole thing is.

But I’m wearing a hat. Plus my mask is double thickness hung of two straps only – it’s a deluxe model.

I lost my ears in a freak shaving accident. How am I meant to wear one mask let alone two?

Just use super-glue, d’oh!

Where’s the evidence that 2 masks are effective? Double the contamination…..it’s Ridiculous.

Ah, more is better is the American dream?

Evidence? Fauci said it just makes sense.

Obviously those politicians who are benefiting from mask wearers are greedy for more. The answer is to say No. Haven’t people woken up to the fact with bullies you need to take a stand or they’ll make your lives a living hell.

So true. More money to line their pockets with lucrative contracts

CDC. Another unelected organization, like the W.H.O., World Bank, IMF, United Nations etc. They are all linked. All of them. That includes the WEF, Bill and Melinda, blah blah blah, Johns Hopkins, Johnson & Johnson, Merck, Pfizer …

“Even the Robert Koch Institute and other health authorities cannot present decisive proof that a new virus named SARS-CoV-2 is haunting us. This alone turns the talk of dangerous viral mutations into irresponsible fearmongering and the so-called SARS-CoV-2 PCR tests definitely into a worthless venture.”

https://off-guardian.org/2021/01/31/phantom-virus-in-search-of-sars-cov-2/

Trainspotting 2021

Choose life
Choose breathing
Choose telling the Stasi to fuck off
Choose restaurants
Choose death rather than slavery
Choose fresh air
Choose the pub
Choose family
Choose walking
Choose fines
Choose holidays
Choose grandchildren
Choose puking over Matt Hancock
Choose cafes
Choose the baton
Choose cinemas
Choose grandparents
Choose extermination before masks

Choose anything, but don’t choose lockdown

Was just thinking about rejigging the Trainspotting monologue to fit 2020/21. Brilliant!

https://gab.com/RealRedElephants/posts/105652359538175798

The science has been settled for a long time.

Masks do absolutely NOTHING to prevent the spread of respiratory viruses. They force us to wear them to make people “feel safe.”

The vast majority of the science also shows very clearly that lockdowns are ineffective, and potentially ten times more deadly than the virus itself in terms of life years…

The data show a deadly combination of EXPONENTIALLY increased suicides, drug overdose, homicide, alcohol consumption, calorie consumption, delayed cancer screening, spousal abuse, tuberculosis, and more occurred during this lockdown. Together, this outweighs deaths from COVID.

According to all available data, the virus itself has an infection fatality rate that is either equivalent to, or far less than the influenza for most age groups…

Furthermore, according to CDC data, 96% of all of the deaths from the virus have comorbidities including influenza. The co-infection rate also seems to be high…

At the beginning of the year, we were told by Dr Fauci that America would be facing the deadliest flu season in decades. It appears this season never came? The last very deadly influenza season killed almost 100,000 people.

This year, there have been basically zero flu deaths. Why? Because they’re registered as Covid deaths.

In 2018 the flu was so bad, hospitals were treating patients in tents.

No lockdown was ever considered at all, despite tens of thousands of deaths.

Yet, they have forced us to lock down for almost A YEAR, because the mega corporations, monopolies, and Wall Street billionaires financially benefit to the tune of trillions of dollars. The greatest wealth transfer in the history of America has occurred because of this.

Billionaires make appearances on corporate media telling people to be extremely afraid, and that we most shut down, because they benefit from the lockdown which cuts out their competition and helps them further monopolize.

Then they make appearances on the same corporate media outlets they used to push for lockdowns, to short brick and mortar stores even further into the ground; by telling people those stocks are going to tank.

The hundreds of virologists, infectious disease experts, scientists, economists, and doctors who have talked about this—pushing back against the mainstream narrative— have been shut out of the conversation by big tech, big media, and mega corporations.

Why?

Because their narrative—which is the scientifically correct one—interferes with the historic financial gain of Wall Street and mega corporations we’ve observed.

Many people acknowledge our healthcare system is corrupt—only out to make money at our expense—yet buy into all of what our healthcare and corporate system sells then about COVID. Even though it‘s proven there’s potential financial gain for listing a patient as COVID positive.

In the UK, they also make money from the ’emergency CV’ budgets from the Hindoo’s magic money machine. So the incentive is to Covid everything. I asked under FOI and they (NHS) will direct you to a hospital (ie you must specifically ask a local hospital if they make more money from CV claims). They of course would not give me the information (they refer you back under FOI to the NHS…..). But there are billions at stake, same for nursing homes. I have read £1 K to £2 K on average per CV incident and death.

Run as many hares as you can

Today: Outdoor masks

Cue a further tsunami of fear porn advertising to keep the press on board.

This is great for all the essential workers, already having to wear masks most of the day. When they finish their shift, wear do they go to get a breather?

A caring employer will provide a staff oxygen tent for tea breaks.

Shopping this morning I looked up to see a couple of window cleaners dangling on a rope doing the 4th floor windows and not wearing masks outdoors!!! Think of the risk!!

Thoughts on todays update..

Forget health passports, we can look forward to the NHS app. All your health data in one place. Coming soon from the people who regularly fuck up everything they touch. The cost? A mere £500 billion.

Should’ve listened to the nice Greek man

US infections started falling straight after ole’ sniffy flew in

Ain’t using womxn, as I can’t say it

I’m not sure I’d want to get my tongue round that.

Ffnnarr

Does anyone have any news on Biden’s plan to use 600m vaccine doses to inject 300 Americans? https://youtu.be/KY6Sca16tko

Son of God approach in reverse!

He is following in the well trodden footsteps of ex-South African president Jacob Zuma. Numbers weren’t his strong point either.

Kamalatoe will give a BJ for every vaxx delivered

Council overreach in London.

Speaking with the school governor of a state secondary school in London who told me that before they could see and meet with the headteacher they had to have lateral flow tests. This test was administered by a council worker who had been diverted from their normal post in recycling to administer the tests. Apparently the council has re-commissioned many of its staff to do this .
The governor also remarked that the school had lots of tests which had not been used on young people. I believe that once all the necessary staff have been trained. Boris will announce that they can go back to school provided they have been tested. For me irrespective of Gillick competence, just raises enormous ethical and moral issues. Testing at many of the country’s universities have shown that young people have very low incidences the virus… single figures in an entire population. I despair at parents who are allowing this destruction to take place before their very eyes.

Another council has taped off benches in a small local park. Thankfully the locals have removed the tape.

The virus is transmitted through your trouser seat. Hence the need for anal swabs.

Hence the call for triple layers of underwear and recruitment of Compliance Marshals.

I can’t be arsed (as it were) to post the Viz Bottom Inspectors episode link again to this comment, so consider it posted!

The gays will be cock-a-hoop

I heard that the reason why the government on short notice closed schools was because of the backlash they had from headteachers and parents re the tests on children at school.

Hopefully headteachers and parents will continue to fight this

I fear headteachers in State schools are too unionised to stand up to this testing nonsense.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/lockdown-the-cruelty-is-the-point/

Can anyone work out the play now?

For me, it was always about coercing people into taking the vaccine for a return to freedom. Now they won’t have a return to freedom due to variants.

Are they just pushing their luck because the populatrion has been soo compliant? Is the game now just to take as much as possible?

Surely even the vaccinated will feel they’ve been had?

That’s a hard one! We were told that vaccines were the ‘light at the end of the tunnel’, now it would seem that there is an endless proliferation of different tunnels. My own feeling is that our useless government has backed itself into a corner (aided and abetted by SAGE) and doesn’t really know how to get of it.

Their orders are to trash the economy and they’re following them

They probably can’t believe their luck at how they were able to fool the populace. Not only those who aren’t well educated in the conventional sense or gullible millenials but even those who have postgraduate degrees, PhDs and loads of initials after their names were taken along for the ride.

“Are they just pushing their luck because the populatrion has been soo compliant? Is the game now just to take as much as possible?”

I think that’s it.

Just a thought on the compliance with lockdown and the British public – it’s cold, wet, miserable outside and everything apart from supermarkets are shut – where would we be going anyway?

Pubs, friends houses, clothes shops, shoe shops, restaurants, gyms. People don’t stay in in the winter. As it is, we see people are meeting for coffee outdoors, or walking together – in fact anything to meet up. Such is the need for company.

No – obviously I know what I’d be doing if lockdown hadn’t happened- what I mean is where do the people who think we are being compliant by staying inside expect us to be now with everything worth leaving the house for having been taken from us? We’re not cowering indoors in fear – we’re hibernating until someone has a better offer..

There are two options that I can see, either:

1 There are really deadly mutant strains, that are vaccine aware

2 We have a bunch of useless, unsafe, poorly documented vaccines that most of the worlds elites have got behind and are now up shits creek without a paddle.

2

I think the answer might be 2 posh. Did I win the holiday in Spain? Oh bollocks!

I can only surmise they are totally lost now. The vaccine has (despite them being told this) not been the cure all they expected. The idiotic “cases” have not plummeted despite them closing what sage said were virus vectors ie schools and pubs. Hospital admissions have dropped but they KNOW none of these are from covid. We are now locked down to air travel in and out the country. Despite all the fear mongering and propaganda the population are not doing hard lockdown. They KNOW this by mobile phone movement data. Deaths are just normal for winter and the nhs being overwhelmed has not happened.

So how do they get out? Sage will keep screaming their unscientific and fearful data. You have created a zero covid secure monster. How do you switch it off? Your covid zealots are king, how do you shut them up? From these news stories there can only be one outcome. Lockdown till summer. If the million people on furlough realise they no longer have a job that might create a ripple but I doubt it.

In December the talk was all positive, but its changed and we are back to doom and gloom? Why, what happened? Cases down, hospitalisation down, deaths down, but still locked down. Just feel they are not brave enough to take the decision. Other countries opening might help? I think they are lost, probably fatally injured by all the flip flopping they have done.

The play was always vaccine tied to digital passport.Added to digital currency it is the end of freedom.

It’s just bizarre that they are not jumping on this vaccine then as the answer. Or does the mutant virus allow them opprtunity to stall for time.

No such mutant virus. Never been shown to exist by any data or science.

They are always looking for any excuse to stall for time.

David Kurten

24 die in Basingstoke care home after being injected with a ‘Covid vaccine’. Government officials have stated that the ‘Covid vaccine’ is not responsible.
I will not be taking a ‘Covid vaccine’.

https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/1356120536569536512?s=20

Links to a DM article about the carehome deaths.

A small home in London with 16 residents all had their first jab and five have subsequently tested positive for the virus but fortunately have not become ill. Believe this is happening all over the country but the news is being suppressed.

My suspicion is that it is the jabbing team that is bringing the virus into these homes.
What is the probability that one of the team has the virus? Not impossible. Then that person gets up close to all those frail vulnerable residents, leans over them, breathes all over them in that hot stuffy atmosphere that all homes have. The residents dont stand a chance.
It’s also possible that a few of the residents will also succumb to the jab itself, if they suffer severe side effects like high temps.

The government will always fight any link between a vaccine and a death.

During the swine flu outbreak, the vaccine resulted in over 90 children getting narcolepsy which is permanent brain damage (centre in brain that controls sleep). The government fought claims for compensation for many years and only agreed to settle after massive public outcry.

More on vaccine side-effects here:

https://hpv-vaccine-side-effects.com/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-world-map/

About 30% of UK deaths are from cancer, far higher than caused by Covid. There are lots of NPIs (non-pharmaceutical interventions) that can be done, easily & cheaply to reduce cancer deaths.
Conversely, the NPIs we have taken to reduce Covid deaths have been ruinously expensive in terms of economic and health outcomes.
Approximately 42 percent of cancer cases and 45 percent of cancer deaths in the United States are linked to lifestyle related risk factors including excess weight, poor diet and physical inactivity.

Mapping Risks Factors to Cancer Types
The study detailed the extent to which each risk factor contributed to each cancer type

Cigarette smoking was linked to –
81.7% of lung cancers
73.8% of laryngeal cancers
50% of esophageal cancers
46.9% of bladder cancers

Excess body weight was linked to
60.3% of uterine cancers
about one-third of liver cancers (33.9%)
11.3% of breast cancers in women
5.2% of colorectal cancers

Drinking alcohol was linked to
almost one-half of oral cavity and pharyngeal cancers in men (46.3%) and one-fourth (27.4%) in women
24.8% of liver cancers in men and 11.9% in women
17.1% of colorectal cancers in men and 8.1% in women
6.4% of breast cancers in women

Eating red and processed meat was linked to
5.4% and 8.2% of colorectal cancers, respectively

Diet low in fruits and vegetables was linked to
17.6% of oral cavity/pharyngeal cancers
17.4% of laryngeal cancers
8.9% of lung cancers

Low dietary calcium was linked to
4.9% of colorectal cases

Low dietary fiber was linked to
10.3% of colorectal cancer cases

Physical inactivity was linked to
26.7% of uterine cancers
16.3% of colorectal cancers
3.9% of female breast cancers

HPV infection was linked to
All cervical cancers
88.2% of anal cancers
64.6% of vaginal cancers

UV radiation from the sun or indoor tanning was linked to
96.0% of melanomas of the skin in men
93.7% of melanomas of the skin in women

https://www.aicr.org/news/new-study-links-cancer-and-cancer-deaths-to-lifestyle-factors/#:~:text=Approximately%2042%20percent%20of%20cancer,a%20study%20released%20last%20week .

So your suggesting that scientifically it is proven that exercise, diet, a healthy life-style, fresh air and using common sense is your best immune defence? Jesus that will surely confuse the Covidtards and Covidiot cult of the almighty, transcendent, omnipotent, CV 19.

Social isolation and psychological stress are associated with increased mortality from every single cause.

Covid Antidote [HCQ] censored by media

HCQ always to be taken with Zinc to be an effective treatment for Covid.

Many HCQ scientific trials were designed to fail – either they have not used Zinc or too high doses

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/02/01/hydroxychloroquine-and-zinc-for-coronavirus.aspx

It worked against Sars 1
Confirmed by Grouchy Fauci himself in 2005
No reason for it not to work against Sars2
HCQ was all about Trump and they were fine with letting people die to get him out

Fauci worked for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation from 2003 to 2010. He authorized/funded the transfer to the Wuhan Lab. Get the picture?

I wonder what would happen if you managed to see a doctor and told him you were due to travel to a country with high incidence of malaria for work and required HCQ for protection.

Instead of wondering, just buy it on the interweb ?

Latest analysis of the Kent strain using the Zoe app – actually does the data analysis that NERVTAG ought to have done before Ferguson made the unfounded and ill thought-out proclamations:

The effect of SARS-CoV-2 variant B.1.1.7 on symptomatology, re-infection and transmissibility | medRxiv

Unfortunately the last line of the abstract doesn’t quite assist the anti lockdowners cause…..”Despite this, we found that regional and national lockdowns have reduced R(t) below 1 in regions with very high proportions of B.1.1.7.”

WHO A Live Exercise

Richard D Hall

https://www.richplanet.net/richp_guest.php?ref=726&part=1&person=20

Wowsers, I started watching this last night.

I had to stop halfway through before I disintegrated my phone against the bedroom wall.

How this isn’t be investigated further is testament to one great big fraud.

This needs to be asked and challenged in Parliament to see if it can be plausibly be refuted.

I’ve just been texted an NHS no reply, asking me to book a regular (as opposed to an irregular?) Covid-19 “symptom-free test today and help reduce the spread of the virus. Play your part and protect Kent ”
No thanks. I’m busy until the 12th of Never.

STOP ALL
Is the way to stop rogue texts. If they continue it is then a legal matter.

Thanks for the tip.

Yeah I’ll bet it’s no reply.i know what my reply would be…

Kent Freedom Alliance

I’ve had one of those texts too. Decided to click on the link to see what they say and you do a self-administered swab in a ‘booth’. Very tempted to book a test and dip the swabs (nose and throat) in some water. Or maybe pee would be better. Bet the results are positive. On the same link there’s also an NHS ad ‘urgently seeking on-site assistants’, £10 ph, working up to 48 hours a week, including evenings and weekends. Gosh, it sounds so attractive.

They’ll need to up that rate to £11 when anal swabs come in.

Testing symptom free people is a waste of money and an endeavour to ramp up numbers.

Asymptomatic infection is biologically implausible ~ Dr Michael Yeadon ~

I said I’ll come down on the 30th Feb.

I want to start a new front! Seeing as they’re using shame tactics against us then I can equally do the same back! If just two people were to stand outside every hospital in the UK with this message

“Look into their eyes and tell me why you allowed them to die when there is cheap, off the shelf well known drugs to cure them – YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS”

Ivermectic, Vitamin D HCQ with ZINC saves lives.

46 k dead from LDs and rising to over 100 K. Maybe 30 k killed by (not with) Covid.

Call them domestic terrorists.

Lucky old Myanmar/Burma.

It isn’t just education and socialising that is being missed because children aren’t in school or pre school. Who are the first people most likely to spot and identify the signs of possible neglect either deliberate or accidental/circumstantial in a child/family?
A teacher. How much neglect and other child/adult safeguarding issues are being missed because children are not in school?

This is a question that no one in MSM has asked over the past 10 months. They have actively contributed to child abuse.

Teachers have abrogated their responsibilities under Working Together. Scum.

According to the Mirror, Captain Tom hadn’t had the Covid vaccine “because he was on drugs to treat pneumonia.” What a load of bollocks. More like he wasn’t given it because there was a high chance it’d kill the most famous centenarian in the country, and what a PR disaster that would have been for the jabs!

They will label all vaxx deaths, like they now do with flu deaths, Covid and emphasise the new scary variant from Gibraltar, Greenland or Ghana.

I was just going to post asking about Captain Jack.

I bet Michael ball and Alfie Boe can’t wait to release their charity single in aid of the captain Tom foundation and wanky balls Morgan is chomping at the bit to host the pride of captain Tom awards honouring the covoid heroes.

P.s. what about all of the people on drugs to treat heart disease, diabetes etc, do they not count?

I also wondered whether being cooped up in the recycled air of an airport and an aeroplane for the best part of a day (x 2 for each way) for his recent family trip to Barbados contributed to his health problem.

I wish the old guy well. He didn’t ask for all this bs; he just thought he was helping. He’s been totally used by the media and the government.

I’ve no idea about airport air, but there is a common misconception about aeroplane air being unclean. On a typical modern aeroplane, approximately half of the air is fresh outside air taken from the engine compressors then run through air conditioning packs to cool it. The other half is recirculated air which is passed through HEPA filters. The air is changed approximately once every 2 minutes.

It’s about as ‘clean’ as air can be!

I agree that he has been used for propaganda purposes, and fair play to him for not letting his age stand in the way of enjoying his life.

Yes, the air in planes is replenished at a huge rate continually. Also there was that poster from AIAT (I think) that showed there was a huge number of flights and hardly any “possible cases” of covid transmission in a plane had occurred.

I can’t find the poster right now. I will look for it.

That’s the theory.

A few years ago now, but I remember reading quite a bit about diesel and other stuff leaking into the aircon systems.

Perhaps he hadn’t had it because he didn’t want it. That wouldn’t be in the news, would it?

Can anyone explain to a layman what the implications of the virus not being isolated are? Ie are there other viruses we recognise that haven’t been isolated? Why can’t it be isolated? What does the fact that it hasn’t been isolated have to the efficacy of treatment? How do we know it exists? Thanks

According to Stefan Lanka, a virologist, no pathogenic viruses have ever been isolated.

Now I know who nicked my car’s air filter.

I don’t know whether that’s an incredibly funny piss-take, or a complete idiot thinking his air-filter will actually work.

My Wife and many others are living in cloud cuckoo land.
She thinks we will be able to go on hols in May and next xmas we will all have a NORMAL xmas.
The MP for the New Forrest (Swayne) tied Fatty down in the commons last week.His answer was,we will ease restrictions when the nhs is not overrun.
So, next winter,very little covid,but many people needing treatment because of missed cancer and other spots.
You will not be able to stand in a pub again for a very long time.

I don’t think they will ever let us stand at the bar again.

I’ve been trying to read up on vaccine effectiveness. I want to find out what that means. Unfortunately, the explanations are dominated by the maths of percentages but lack the definition of what effectiveness in an individual actually is. Is it that they do not get any symptoms, or is it that they don’t die, or is it something else?

They reduce symptoms. No evidence of reduced transmission, though if symptoms are reduced you may not cough & sneeze as much.

“They reduce symptoms”

I know this is what is claimed but, genuine question, how has it been scientifically measured that this is supposedly the case? How can a default level of severity be assumed for any individual in order to be able to say “Ah yes, if they hadn’t been vaccinated they would have had worse symptoms”? It would require the measurement of a non-existent value.

My own view is that, in order for them to make this claim with any confidence, there is little in the vaccine of actual medicinal effect other than, effectively, a paracetamol suspension, the benefits of which are already known.

I agree.Symptoms are mild in most people.How can you gauge that,it is impossible.A standard test for a vaccine is that it stops you contracting whatever you are vaccinated against.
A fake vaccine for a fake pandemic.

They reduce the severity of symptoms, do not stop people getting infected. Question seems to be how infectious vaccined carriers are.

For the Gov reduced symptoms mean less strain on Our NHS. That’s it. Plus they can boast abut x millions vaccinated and coax Granny out from the root cellar as masks haven’t been enough to.

The percentages quoted tend to be the effectiveness in stopping you testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 (the test may be prompted by you having a symptom of some kind or testing positive for antibodies)

The way that say ‘95% effective’ has been worked out is in say a trial to vaccinate half of a group of people, and to see how many go on to test positive for SARs-CoV-2 in each group.

So if 2 later test positive in the vaccinated group and 40 in the equally sized control group, they claim 95% effectiveness. That is the manufacturer says they stopped 38 positives out of 40 in the vaccinated group or 95% of positives.

However because deaths are so low in number in these trials, the tests tell you nothing about how the vaccine affects your chance of dying. And deaths in these trials with a positive test for SARS-C0V-2 typically have something like zero or no covid labelled deaths amongst the participants. So they don’t show anything in terms of their ability or not to prevent death. And even if there is a covid labelled death it doesn’t tell you if that death is incidental to the positive test. Someone dying of terminal cancer with a positive test for SARS-C0V-2 dies because of cancer not covid, and being vaccinated to stop your unavoidable death being labelled as covid is pointless.

To properly test any vaccine against the most important outcome, death, you need to vaccinate two large groups with a ‘vaccine’ and a placebo. You then follow them for 10 years at least and see how many die of any cause in that period. That way you pick up not only any covid deaths the vaccine prevents, but any net indirect short and long term deaths caused by the ‘vaccine’. Possibly relatively subtle affects such as a higher death rate to the vaccinated from the next respiratory virus may then get picked up as well as more obvious side affects.

In practice you never get to see this measurable long term all cause death outcomes in trials, even with hindsight. Having marketed their 95% claims, the manufacturer then claims it will be unethical not to vaccinate the people in the control group who had the placebo, and so allowing the placebo group to be vaccinated you stop any chance of measuring a long term outcome of all cause death that might prove embarrassing to the manufacturer.

These vaccines (if you can call them vaccines, I won’t go into that) will probably always be experimental vaccines because I don’t think you will ever see any clear effect on them preventing death. There may however be evidence that they are harmful if the short and long term side affects are sufficient in size.

I’ve estimated my chances of dying from covid is about 1 in 500,000 although I could be an order of magnitude out on that. But would it be sensible for me to take an even ‘100% effective’ vaccine given those odds? Of course not. The unknown long term affects (it is hard to conceive that the vaccine will ever help in the long term with anything other than covid) rule it out completely.

“So if 40 later test positive in the vaccinated group and 2 in the equally sized control group, they claim 95% effectiveness.”

I never really understood this. They had no control whatsover over what these people were doing: they weren’t all subject to exactly the same germs, air, food, other people – whatever.

The only way they could properly test would have been to actually inject them all with covid. Did they do that?

Or maybe I’m just dim.

No your not dim. It’s meant to confuse you so you don’t ask questions. No they don’t infect you with covid as this is illegal. The just get volunteers. Lets say 3000. Inject half with a dose of vaccine half with a placebo then set them all free and hope some catch it. So the 40 figure is those that got it. Rather than the logical question, why didn’t the rest the 1500 not get it? So its not a great control groups worth of data to then go and vaccine the whole fucking world. I feel so much safer!

Isn’t one of the vaccines just a kneecapped version of one of the corona colds? Sure I read that somewhere

“Among those getting the placebo, 0,9% developed symptomatic covid. Among those getting the vaccine, 0,05% developed symptomatic covid. That is a 95% relative risk reduction and it is highly statistically significant.”
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/10/are-the-covid-vaccines-safe-and-effective/

Just to be clear the trial evaluated vaccine efficacy not vaccine effectiveness. Efficacy is under ideal conditions and effectiveness is real world conditions. We have yet to determine the effectiveness, but will do once enough people in the general population have been vaccinated and there’s enough data

Good point.

And of course, as well as real world conditions, the people most affected by covid are not just weighted but hugely weighted to older people with co-morbidities. And this group are massively under-represented in the trial samples.

So the efficacy is pretty much measuring the ability of the ‘vaccine’ stopping those, who wouldn’t have been badly affected anyway, and in trial conditions, from testing positive.

They did inject them with sth.
Saw it on Corona Ausschuss.
A Dr Schmidt-Krueger analysed the paperwork BionTech gave to the vaccine authorising bodies.
She has some quite shocking news.
I will listen to it again today, it is very long (2hrs) and complicated. Report then.

They allow for other factors which will affect ‘effectiveness’ (their definition) of the vaccine or placebo arm (other than vaccination itself) by randomisation and stratification in the control and vaccine arms.

By randomly selected people to be in the vaccine or control group, these other factors cancel out (such as germs, air, food).

However with something really critical such as age or co-morbidities you use stratification. So for example you pick all the over 70s say (where the vaccine may be less ‘effective’) and then randomly select half of them to be in the control group and half in the vaccine arm. That way you avoid the affect that a random sample will by chance result in slightly more or less than half of those over 70s being in the 2 groups, and so you aren’t confounding results by how lucky or unlucky you have been in randomly choosing the 2 groups.

So by the manufacturers definition of ‘effective’ you can say that the vaccine is ‘effective’ (to some degree at least) without doing something like injecting everyone with SARS-C0V-2 which is not allowed for various reasons. But the point is, as already detailed they are measuring completely the wrong outcome.

Only a ridiculously small proportion of even the control group actually get covid (which is what has happened) and pretty much none of them die from covid and only relatively few are hospitalised. On the other side only a very small adverse affect on all cause mortality in the group who don’t get covid (as well as almost all of those who do get covid and and recover) creates much more harm than any benefit a vaccine may give in preventing covid death. But that isn’t measured except at the most extreme level of extreme short term side affects, and they just declare it ‘safe’.

Of course you are dim.Cant you see the emperors wonderful new clothes?

Just to be clear the trial evaluated vaccine efficacy not vaccine effectiveness. Efficacy is under ideal conditions and effectiveness is real world conditions. We have yet to determine the effectiveness, but will do once enough people in the general population have been vaccinated and there’s enough data

From what I have read of the Pfizer one, they appeared to merely reduce positive PCR tests as untested and negative-result people with symptoms were excluded from the trial.

Peter Doshi at the BMJ does a good job of demonstrating that the Pfizer data is pretty well worthless (even though he doesn’t actually say that…). And the sleight of hand involved to come up with the topline efficacy figure. Read the comments underneath the article also for useful discussion.

“Five weeks ago, when I raised questions about the results of Pfizer’s and Moderna’s covid-19 vaccine trials, all that was in the public domain were the study protocols and a few press releases . Today, two journal publications and around 400 pages of summary data are available in the form of multiple reports presented by and to the FDA prior to the agency’s emergency authorization of each company’s mRNA vaccine. While some of the additional details are reassuring, some are not. Here I outline new concerns about the trustworthiness and meaningfulness of the reported efficacy results.
“Suspected covid-19”
All attention has focused on the dramatic efficacy results: Pfizer reported 170 PCR confirmed covid-19 cases, split 8 to 162 between vaccine and placebo groups. But these numbers were dwarfed by a category of disease called “suspected covid-19”—those with symptomatic covid-19 that were not PCR confirmed. According to FDA’s report on Pfizer’s vaccine , there were “3410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1816 in the placebo group.”
With 20 times more suspected than confirmed cases, this category of disease cannot be ignored simply because there was no positive PCR test result. Indeed this makes it all the more urgent to understand. A rough estimate of vaccine efficacy against developing covid-19 symptoms, with or without a positive PCR test result, would be a relative risk reduction of 19% (see footnote)—far below the 50% effectiveness threshold for authorization set by regulators . Even after removing cases occurring within 7 days of vaccination (409 on Pfizer’s vaccine vs. 287 on placebo), which should include the majority of symptoms due to short-term vaccine reactogenicity, vaccine efficacy remains low: 29% (see footnote).
If many or most of these suspected cases were in people who had a false negative PCR test result, this would dramatically decrease vaccine efficacy. But considering that influenza-like illnesses have always had myriad causes —rhinoviruses, influenza viruses, other coronaviruses, adenoviruses, respiratory syncytial virus, etc.—some or many of the suspected covid-19 cases may be due to a different causative agent.
But why should etiology matter? If those experiencing “suspected covid-19” had essentially the same clinical course as confirmed covid-19, then “suspected plus confirmed covid-19” may be a more clinically meaningful endpoint than just confirmed covid-19.
However, if confirmed covid-19 is on average more severe than suspected covid-19, we must still keep in mind that at the end of the day, it is not average clinical severity that matters, it’s the incidence of severe disease that affects hospital admissions. With 20 times more suspected covid-19 than confirmed covid-19, and trials not designed to assess whether the vaccines can interrupt viral transmission, an analysis of severe disease irrespective of etiologic agent—namely, rates of hospitalizations, ICU cases, and deaths amongst trial participants—seems warranted, and is the only way to assess the vaccines’ real ability to take the edge off the pandemic.
There is a clear need for data to answer these questions, but Pfizer’s 92-page report didn’t mention the 3410 “suspected covid-19” cases. Nor did its publication in the New England Journal of Medicine. Nor did any of the reports on Moderna’s vaccine. The only source that appears to have reported it is FDA’s review of Pfizer’s vaccine.
The 371 individuals excluded from Pfizer vaccine efficacy analysis
Another reason we need more data is to analyse an unexplained detail found in a table of FDA’s review of Pfizer’s vaccine: 371 individuals excluded from the efficacy analysis for “important protocol deviations on or prior to 7 days after Dose 2.” What is concerning is the imbalance between randomized groups in the number of these excluded individuals: 311 from the vaccine group vs 60 on placebo. (In contrast, in Moderna’s trial , there were just 36 participants excluded from the efficacy analysis for “major protocol deviation”—12 vaccine group vs 24 placebo group.)
What were these protocol deviations in Pfizer’s study, and why were there five times more participants excluded in the vaccine group? The FDA report doesn’t say, and these exclusions are difficult to even spot in Pfizer’s report and journal publication .”

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/

Have a read of this – it explains a lot about the testing methodology they used. https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2020/09/23/covid-19-vaccine-protocols-reveal-that-trials-are-designed-to-succeed/?sh=1719f9e15247

Peter Doshi in the BMJ is worth reading.

I got a bit of flack last night for saying Tom Moore having pneumonia is sad, but I stand by this. What I meant is it’s not a tragedy, and certainly not a national one. But his own family are still allowed to be sad and mourn him (when the time inevitably comes). We need to be proportionate about grief as a nation not immune to it as individuals.

It’s not his fault he got used the way he did and I’m glad he didn’t spend any of what was (probably) his last year on earth stressing about it and wondering if it was too late to choose a different charity. He walked 100 laps of his garden – setting a great example of what people need to do if they want to be old and healthy too. You don’t see him with a mask on do you.

The guy went on a jolly to Barbados with his family last month! He clearly knows lockdown is a load of bollocks and was determined to use what little time he had left well rather than wasting it cowering away.

So he can be a symbol of whatever you choose – for me it’s his zest for life, that exercise is necessary and the knowledge that you have to honour those you cared for who died too young by making the most of your whole life.

Captain Tom…

What a hero, everybody loves you
You tested positive for sars-cov-2? Everybody hopes you have a swift recovery
You went to Barbados? What a scumbag

People are so fickle.

Lovely, lovely poetic justice that their hero could be the one to torpedo the whole project. Hoping he pulls through but if he dies on day 27 (after test), the shit will hit the fan!

Le Petit Prince asked the Drunk; ‘why do you drink?’. The Drunk answered ‘to forget that I drink’.

Le Petit Prince asked the Covidiot wearing a mask taking endless vaxx’s; ‘why do you wear a mask and inject vaxxs?’. The Covidiot answered ‘to forget that I once had individual freedom and a normal life’.

The vaccine discussion has finally starting to raise it’s ugly hea in my household. As it appears more and more apparent that the Vaccine passport is only a matter of time and that soon you will not be able to take a cab , let alone a plane anywhere without it , I now stand on the crossroads. My parents and my siter live abroad and in the discussion with my wife she said if we ever want to see them again or go on holiday anywhere else but Bogna , we will have to take the vaccine sooner or later.

I’, of course strongly opposed to that and she knows how I feel about it but the argument throw out is : Well, you being selfish and paranoid will cost your daughter not to see her grandparent and her cousin and be able to go on holiday. SO you will just have to amn up and take the vaccine.

And here we are, I’m the graters dilemma since thinking to either leave the Army or stay ..One of hand there is the fact that this is experimental drug that could seriously affect me for the rest of my life, on the other a real possibility that I will loose my family . This world is truly fucked..

Wait and see how it pans out
if you think this incompetent Government can administer a vaccine passport system then………..??
There will be plenty of loopholes

Agree – business will find it a hassle (and will lose business) having to implement it. I think, particularly for more general things (pubs, taxis) it will go the same way as the test and trace went last summer – i.e. very easy to get around in most cases.

Fake vaccine certs will be all over ebay
The “apps” will be cracked by the dark web

And then there is the black market!

Absolutely this. Even if they want to, they will fail spectacularly. I’m sitting the vaccine out until I’m convinced it’s adequately tested. Whichever one I’m being offered at the time. I doubt very much they can differentiate between me and someone’s who’s taken it in any setting other than looking directly at my medical notes. Even those could be wrong; one of my sons had a regular childhood vaccine omitted on his notes and I took him for every single appointment.

First of all it is illegal to discriminate against you on the grounds of whether you are genetically altered or not (it’s NOT a vaccine), and secondly you are way ahead of yourself if you think you need to concern yourself with this now.

Go and sign the petition on https://stopmedicaldiscrimination.org and share it.

Just tell your family you are waiting till the vaccines have a full product licence! Then you can better assess the risks and choose which one you want. Or none.

I know. I have family abroad too.

I know how you feel. I have family overseas.

That said I seriously doubt that they can vaccinate everyone and have health passports. The Swine Flu vaccine and its failure sets a precedent especially after the NHS and manufacturers were sued after people who were vaccinated developed serious side effects and complications.

I would not worry. Aint nobody going on holiday thus year.

It is as well to remember that none of the vaccines are approved.
They have simply been granted an Emergency Use Authorisation.
And such an authorisation has to be rescinded as soon as such emergency use is no longer justifiable.
Clearly viable alternatives that are already approved (such as HCQ and Ivermectin) have been suppressed or made unavailable. But there is a possibility that these will begin to break through, as the efficacy data continues to build up from around the world. Even widespread adoption of Vit D supplementation would end the ’emergency’.
Then the vaccine sponsors will have to apply for regular approval. For sure the passage to that will be smoothed, but it is not a given.
It’s one of the reasons why the ’emergency’ has to be continued for now.

I’m trying to take comfort from what happened in the EC last week. I know we’re not part of the EU anymore, but the EC ruled against mandatory vaccination and stated that no-one can be discriminated against if they refuse vaccine. See the link below. The extension of this is that EU based airlines may struggle or even find it impossible to refuse to carry a non-vaccinated passenger and with that the covid-passport bollocks should hopefully wither and die;

https://pace.coe.int/en/files/29004/html

Nothing to do with the EU. This was the Council of Europe, which the UK remains a member of.

I’m with the majority – wait and see, no rush.

Also, there is the option of offering to pay for grandparent(s) to come here.

There is also the option of checking to see which vaccine is the best (i.e. the most old-fashioned, safely-made). Thus far, the Indian and Chinese versions are by far the safest in theory, being made using deactivated viral material rather than mRNA. The Sinopharm one is the only one I would take a chance on, if it was utterly mandatory.

Mind you, they’ll still have to take a chance on their ability to avoid my nose-breaking skills.

Lots of insane back slapping today at the DT regarding the “vaccine nationalism” alleged “win” over the eu – it really is not 66 and all that again folks, however, i might be a lone voice, but anybody who wants my “vaccine” is bloody well welcome to it !

I’m going to donate mine to the French.

I’m donating mine to a teacher who is reluctant to get back in the classroom.

We really do need to get the virtue signallers to buy into the whole vaccine altruism argument.

Interesting how all the propaganda is now ‘strong and good Boris’ for having the courage and foresight to purchase all those 400 million doses of a dozen different vaccines

Just driven the past the local test centre, quiet as a mouse’s fart.

Talking to a colleague this morning who I haven’t seen for well since March.

Hard to guage her scepticism but without prompting she thinks it’s all about trying to destroy the working class hence why pubs are shut etc.

She did also discuss the impact on the younger generation and the impact on mental health. Her cousin runs an under 18 football team and he is aware of 2 under 18’s within the community committing suicide. She agreed that paying people to sit at home is a great idea and a great tool to keep people compliant and selfish.

Not the most up beat conversation but good to speak to someone with an open mind.

Many interesting papers on Ivermectin.They will be dismissed in UK as 3rd world studies cheered by Big Pharma

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3765018

Sharp Reductions in COVID-19 Case Fatalities and Excess Deaths in Peru in Close Time Conjunction, State-By-State, with Ivermectin Treatments

“On May 8, 2020, Peru’s Ministry of Health approved ivermectin (IVM) for the treatment of COVID-19. A drug of Nobel Prize-honored distinction, IVM has been safely distributed in 3.7 billion doses worldwide since 1987. It has exhibited major, statistically significant reductions in case mortality and severity in 11 clinical trials for COVID-19, three with randomized controls. The indicated biological mechanism of IVM is the same as that of antiviral antibodies generated by vaccines—binding to SARS-CoV-2 viral spike protein, blocking viral attachment to host cells. ” For the 24 states with early IVM treatment (and Lima), excess deaths dropped 59% (25%) at +30 days and 75% (25%) at +45 days after day of peak deaths.”

Very interesting.Another article.See graph below.The absolute majority of treatment must have been in Haiti due to its enormous health problems.WHO stopped this campaign April 2020.Remember Haiti and Dominican Republic share the same island.According to Times and Ivermectin not proven treatment.

https://colombiamedica.univalle.edu.co/index.php/comedica/article/view/4613/4859

“In 2019, 1.2 million people in Haiti and Dominican Republic received ivermectin as part lymphatic filariasis preventive strategy. However, in an effort to reduce the risk of COVID-19 mass treatment campaigns were suspended, after an interim WHO guidance on April 1, 2020  It should be interesting to observe the evolution of infections and mortality in these countries.”

So, if both Haiti and Dominican Republic participated in the Ivermectin program, what accounts for the huge disparity in cases?

As I said above the dirtpoor Haiti had the absolute majority of treated

What does it mean if Conservative MPs abstain in Labour total quarantine vote? Apparently that’s what they’ve been told to do by BJ.

“ Labour total quarantine vote” What’s that? Sorry, I don’t read the news!

Labour want all arrivals to the UK to be quarantined, not just those on the ‘red list’ here’s the story https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9209669/Boris-orders-Tory-MPs-ABSTAIN-Labour-vote-border-rules.html

They want to bring in ‘hotel’ quarantine for British citizens returning from all countries even if you’ve travelled abroad for non holiday reasons. My daughter is at university abroad now so I am terrified.

Not good, ituex, but hotel quarantine is not ‘terrifying’. Well, maybe Holiday Inns …

Bookies are giving saying sturgeon wont last the year. Wont last the spring is my bet. At a time when her witchipfulness is apparently at an all time high of popularity. What can be going on?

I don’t think it matters whether Sturgeon stays or goes – or Johnson, or whoever.

They are all dispensable. These people decide nothing big.

The system continues.

The amount of relief it will bring to a huge numbervof people will be of consequence.

The revelation that while people were fawning over their leader she was busy in the darkest corruptions setting innocent men up for jail time will wake more up.

Of course the system is rigged broken and stacked by the establishment. That is no longer worth pointing out.

Sheer relief from the bitch is very important.

It’s coming out that she had a part in framing Salmond on the bogus se charges. See wingsoverscotland.com for more details on this and a ton of other scandals, including donations for campaigns going missing.

Am aware ta.

Wee Nippy will hold on like a crab on a pube

Reminds me of the jokes that used to go around when I was a little boy.

“You thought you had a pube until you pee’d through it”

Ah what a sweet and innocent childhood.

Which bookmaker, please? In any case bookmakers just reflect the weight of money and don’t say what they think is likely to happen

Why is the government cronyism regarding contracts not a bigger issue?

It suggests that the government and those close to decision makers are/have been running a profiteering racket and have a direct incentive to prolong the state of emergency.

We’ve seen sporadic reporting on it but everyone seems to have just shrugged their shoulders and decided there’s nothing to see here.

Worth watching Robert F Kennedy with David Martin, a link posted earlier. Similar rot with Fauci and Moderna.

Why are the CBI not just telling their members to open up, that they will fight the case, that the courts are so tied up it would take years anyway. Before they are eaten up by the big sharks

Good question!

And the same of the FSB

Well Labour are promising to hold the Gov to account, “for the many & not for the few” and all that. oh wait………

What hope do we have when the police are so thick they force an essential shop to close…

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/health-food-shop-owner-threatened-19721447

the shop did not sell doughnuts and pies. so how can it be a food shop?

Guilty of offences against the “Weakening the Immune System Act 2021”.

Obviously I don’t know Sir Tom Moore but from his determination to live life to the full I hope he might think this is appropriate-

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

(Dylan Thomas; there are more verses of course)

Does Handoncock think everyone has forgotten that it was only a few weeks ago he was promising to “cry freedom” once the most vulnerable people had all been offered the vaccine, i.e. round about now? We’re definitely dealing with some kind of personality disorder here, because this narcissist clearly thinks he can get away with anything.

And so far he has

Which is the most depressing bit!

I’m not so worried about Handoncock. Slugs will feast in the vegetable patch.

What I am worried about is the inability of many of the populace (many of whom will, no doubt, parrot empty slogans about politicians in general) to join up the dots of inconsistency when push comes to shove.

You have to have the memory of a goldfish not to recall that vaccines were the golden gate to freedom but a short while ago.

You are so right

Vladimir Putin demolishes the Great Reset and the fourth industrial revolution in his speech to the Davos crowd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVcB6_zjauY

In many ways he seems like an awful man but could we now honestly say he is more awful and less competent than our own PM?

Elections are freer in Russia than in the US, the BBC’s views notwithstanding.

I don’t know enough to comment, but I would say that the US, with the degree of autonomy enjoyed at State level, is still freer than Russia. The UK not so much. I don’t believe we have any right to a moral high ground now.

Compare and contrast Putin and Johnson.

I suspect if the above exercise were carried out dispassionately, Johnson would not come out of it well.

Awful in a different way but much more competent without a doubt.

But would people think he is ‘awful’ if they didn’t base their views on what western politicians and MSM tell us to think of him and distort and lie about the truth (sounds familiar)?

This article by Sharon Tennison of the US Center for Citizen Initiatives is primarily a personal opinion piece but it is very illuminating on many aspects of Putin’s character and motivations.

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/02/06/understanding-russia-un-demonizing-putin/

I would be so bold as to say that anyone who has ever watched his annual solo public Q&A sessions cannot fail to be impressed with his intelligence, loyalty to the Russian people and even a sense of humour. I think the record is a four and a half hour session without a break responding sympathetically to questions posed by the audience from within the conference centre or by video link from central, regional and remote rural areas of the country.

He responds to every question – often quoting statistics and well-researched facts – without any briefing notes and never once evading the question or saying he didn’t have an answer. Even well known outspoken critics with opposing political persuasions are allowed to pose questions, and he answers with courtesy and respect…and sometimes humour.

I recall seeing an interview in which he was asked about his approach to negotiating with politicians or heads of state that he had little in common with politically. He said that every person on the planet can find common ground with someone else. “It might be a common love of conservation or art or sport [etc]. The skill is to identify that common ground and build relations from that”.

Whether people agree with his political position or not, his standing as an intelligent and true statesman is second to none. Boris Johnson has none of those qualities.

Warning – introduction by Klaus Schwab.

I think his new nick-name is anal schwab

I’ve got mixed feelings about Putin. There’s no doubt that he’s a hard, ruthless man and dangerous to have as an enemy. But there’s no need for him to be our enemy. I was relieved when the Skripals recovered from Novichok poisoning, and it was sad that a British woman later died from coming into contact with it, but it wasn’t the intention to kill British citizens. Putin is first and foremost a Russian nationalist and the main thing he wants is complete control of his own country. I think he’s much less of a threat than the Chinese Communist Party who want to spread their dominating influence globally.

I asked a native russian speaker what he thought about the way Putin spoke, did he sound “posh” or “common” or something else? The guy said he just sounded very ordinary, very man in the street. I thought that was interesting.

So Perth and a lot of the population of WA have gone into total lockdown because of one case. If we did the same here, we would be in lockdown forever. The world has gone bonkers, do they not have flu in Australia?

New Zealand have just told them to be more ‘tactful’ to the Chinese. What a confusing world.

Nobody has flu, it’s been cured by Covid.

I honestly think it might be worse in Australia whereby people live in fear of the boogeyman that never actually arrives.

At least here we have had it and the population are having to wise up as to whether it’s worth the fuss.

Several years ago Western Australia banned the opera ‘Carmen’ because there was a tobacoo factory in the story.

Sadly the ‘other half’ is addicted to BBC R2, especially the diabetes inducing Ken Bruce.

I simply can’t believe the Jolly Jolly attitude of this program, trivialising the Social crime that is the whole Lockdown travesty.

When the reckoning comes State Radio has to be in the dock with all the others.

Ken Bruce is the only show I listen to and even that is *very* occasional. I agree the whole jolly atmosphere is too much. You’d think we weren’t actually having our lives ripped apart before our very eyes.

I have Ken Bruce on in the background as I sit here typing away! I know that Ken makes the right ‘noises’ about the pandemic and the NHS when he talks to contestants on Pop Master but I get the distinct impression that he is actually holding back on his true opinion and keeps his platitudes relatively low key. For months now, when Jeremy Vine talks to Ken about what is to be discussed on his show, Ken keeps quiet and never adds any comments in endorsement of Jeremy’s immature, ill-researched and effusive pro-lockdown and pro-vaccine stance.

So, in his defence, I think Ken is actually trying to sustain some semblance of normality for those of us who are sick of being bombarded with the propaganda.

I suspect eastender53 meant Jeremy Vine, as opposed to Ken Bruce.

The new teenage mutant ninja virus

More Cowerbunga than Cowabunga

The DM article about masks got me thinking about my friend who many years ago returned home with her young family to the uK. In the airport while they were waiting for the family to meet them, her youngest asked why that black man was sitting in their cafe, she was mortified and her daughter has actually turned out to be someone against all divisions including masks which she sees as divisive as all segregation. Some of the comments about not letting people in places without a masked face are tragic and not something I ever thought we would hear in this country.

Google ‘Options for increasing adherence to social distancing measures’ it’s an 8 page Gov.uk . pdf. ..see for yourselves what they are doing.

https://twitter.com/marmorkreb1/status/1355528026050727938

Neanie Scott’s, a souvenir shop on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh, according to the locals, the owner is a woman of great character and strong opinions. Several police offers in her shop but the customers supported her. You may need to turn the volume up to full, especially at the beginning of the clip

https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Gift-Shop/Neanie-Scott-132011673482729/?locale2=en_GB

Watched that. She was great and I know the shop having lived in Edinburgh for 10 years.

I posted late last night on yesterday’s comments the day after there was an arrest and a fine issued.

Some people on Twitter have volunteered to crowdfund so will have to check out if someone has started one.

Good to see the support and the nailing of the key issues with the reference to Nuremberg.

The police are certainly storing up trouble in being able to dispatch four individuals on a mission like this. Apart from anything else, it suggests that 50% at least are surplus to requirements.

Both Taiwan and South Korea promptly imposed border quarantines when the original outbreak was reported in Wuhan, and both have great test-and-trace systems as a result of earlier bad coronavirus outbreaks (SARS for Taiwan, MERS for South Korea). However, while South Korea was only able to contain the virus, Taiwan was able to eliminate it.

Similarly, Florida had few restrictions but suffered a lower death rate than other US states that had harsh lockdowns.

Could climate be the common factor? Florida’s climate is very similar to Taiwan’s.

Taiwan to my knowledge doesn’t have multi generational households either given the high cost of housing there. Also like Japan and Florida they focused protection on the elderly.

I thought expensive housing would make multigenerational households (and overcrowding more generally) more likely, not less!

I think on the AIER site there’s an article which questions whether Taiwan was so efficient.

Likely climate factors into the equation partly, yes. One of Ivor Cummins’ video updates went into this issue, compared the US to Europe in terms of peak infections related to average temperature.. obviously varies considerably across the US, the middle of Texas or Arizona in peak summer, isn’t directly comparable to Vermont & Maine, for example…

Another thing about Taiwan – they have (or did have, until the factory burnt down!) an extremely high uptake of HcQ

“Similarly, Florida had few restrictions but suffered a lower death rate than other US states that had harsh lockdowns.”

People die because of lockdowns, not despite them.

Yes, I think climate does play a role, but better to compare Florida to California in order to eliminate most cultural factors.

Also North Dakota vs South Dakota.

Respiratory viruses thrive in low humidity, showing that aerosols, which remain suspended in the air at low humidity, are the prime mode of transmission – not personal contact.

I add:

How do we know that Taiwan has eliminated ‘the virus’?

Is there a reliable test?

If so, then to whom is that test administered in Taiwan?

Only those showing symptoms?

Do not assume that different jurisdictions follow the same procedures.

Is there not always contradictions for every theory though. Peru had the strictest lockdown ever and yet one of the highest death tolls. The scandinavian nations have done alright and I don’t think they’re renowned for lots of sun

My theory is the countries that did particulaly well have low levels of obesity and high levels of vitamin D from climate and food (climate certainly plays a factor in it). Also, prior immunity from previous SARS outbreak is potentially a completely ignored elephant in the room.

low levels of obesity and high levels of vitamin D

Exactly!!

Scandinavia had different advantages: well-funded health care systems, a lifestyle that was already quite socially-distanced, and little or no urban overcrowding. Sweden did worst in part because those advantages were weaker there than in the rest of Scandinavia: it’s health care isn’t as well-funded, it has Somali immigrants living in overcrowded conditions, and its elderly care set up is bolloxed much as the UK’s is.

Latin America is interesting as it seems to be the main part of the world which has seen lockdown being outright ineffective (not just in Peru but in Argentina).

I don’t think immunity from SARS is relevant, as SARS didn’t infect enough people.

I don’t know how much I buy this overcrowding narrative. We generally urbanise our populations. Therefore, no matter the size of the Country’s geography we live in tight nit populations. I mean do these countries do better during flu seasons?

Yes true, Argentina suffered what they called quaranternity.

You may be right about SARS however given how little COVID has affected them it’s spread may just not have been recognisable in the population.

It may not be SARS but another recent coronavirus. If they had one of the endemic coronaviruses as the dominant seasonal respiratory virus in recent years in the eastern hemisphere, then perhaps there is better cross immunity in the population at large.

I think it’s a mistake to focus too much on the variables. If we look at the bigger picture where countries with totally different approaches end up with similar results then it’s not unreasonable to say that most of the variables are likely insignificant.

We’re through January – we can do this!

It is mockery.

I heard that being said. It makes sense.

The precautionary principle can be very lucrative it seems:

UK Government orders extra 40 million doses of Valneva vaccine

The UK Government has ordered an extra 40 million doses of the Valneva Covid-19 vaccine that is being manufactured in Scotland.

The move means 100 million doses of Valneva have now been put on order, enough for every adult in the UK, with the latest batch earmarked for delivery in 2022.

The Government has also retained options over a further 90 million doses for supply between 2023 and 2025.

Valneva said the total value of the entire order was up to 1.4bn euro (£1.24bn).

The ease with which all these vaccines are being developed makes me wary. Usually a complex problem will have very few solutions so it can take a long time for somebody to find one.

If everyone and their dog can come up with a solution it suggests the problem wasn’t a particularly hard one to solve in the first place.

I’d be interested to see just how different all these vaccines are to manufactured flu vaccines. Is it possible some places are simply redesigning or even rebranding what would otherwise be used to fight the flu?

Could be water if it brings the desired result of controls

and how much does vit D and Ivermectin costt in comparison?

200m saved QALYs.

I am more concerned that they are buying them with 5 years’ time in mind.

The lockdowons are forever!

Look at the time lines too. Well I tell people that it’ll be required to have two or three jabs per year in perpetuity, they don’t believe me. Yet, this is exactly what this kind of news demonstrates.

Vallance said as much.A medico- fascist state is in the making.This is Bill Gates wet dream and the plan from the start.

I saw a brilliant (well, scary) photo on Twitter yesterday of a baby surrounded by syringes and vials, showing just how many vaccinations are supposedly recommended these days. Good to show to any mother as it rams home the point..
I’ll see if I can find it again…

I know a bit about flu vaccine manufacture. It’s rather different. For the most part, they are inactivated virus grown in eggs (chicken eggs). It’s very old-tech. There are some cell based and recombinant approaches as well. FDA has a basics page here:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/how-fluvaccine-made.htm#:~:text=For%20the%202019%2D2020%20influenza,Cell%2DBased%20Flu%20Vaccines%20webpage .

The COVID vaccines approved so far use rather different technology. Taking instructions to make antigens in the form of mRNA or DNA in either a manufactured shell or using a chimp adenovirus shell, which enables penetration of the host cell, which then acts to under the instructions inside to churn out the target antigen. Flu and corona are different viruses with different antigens, so you can’t repurpose flu vaccines for corona. And you wouldn’t want to start making a corona vaccine in old-tech chicken egg production lines as it’s slow and expensive to set up (you need GMP approved chickens to lay the eggs, in the first place).

What’s likely to happen in the future is that mRNA approaches will be used to make new flu based vaccines (a universal flu vaccine being the holy grail, putting all those GMP chicken farmers out of business).

You could design a recombinant antigen to target a corona virus, and this is the approach that a number of companies (eg Sanofi) are taking. It’s more traditional than mRNA and ChAd approaches, but also slower. All processes involving biologic agents can have variable yields, risk contamination and batch failure, so production is rarely straightforward.

Thanks Sophie123.

If the objective was to simply reduce symptoms would it be difficult to use the new technology to trigger the same responses? I’m assuming all these new vaccines have a unique solution to the same problem otherwise there would be some IP conflicts.

Too early to tell, but my suspicions are that these vaccines will turn out to be virtually identical to flu vaccines in their effect.

The aim of both the flu and corona vaccines wasn’t just to reduce symptoms. They both aimed to give a degree of immunity, in that the aim of both is to (1) generate neutralising antibodies and ideally (2) generate a T cell response (I think: they may have measured something else, but something that would suggest that your immunity is going to be longer lived than just the antibodies at least). Those are your biomarkers that you look for in early studies, that you will hope translate to fewer infections in the vaccinated in your larger clinical studies. Failing that, you hope the immune response you’re generating is sufficient to stop the disease being as severe (which it seems is where we have ended up).

With a flu vaccine, it’s very dependent on whether you have the right strain (H1N1 or whatever) in the vaccine. It may be “close enough” to give some immunity, but not close enough to make everyone vaccinated symptom free.

With corona, I don’t know. I guess the immune response generated is going to be very different across populations – it’s typically weaker and less durable in the elderly as the T cell response is much weaker. Plus the vaccines developed are only targeted at the S protein antigen, which means if the natural virus mutates a lot they may not be as well targeted to it. I need to do more reading on this.

On the IP issue, I don’t know if anyone has an overarching mRNA patent. Or if they do, it will be one that everyone licenses from the original holder. Like the Genentech Cabilly patent on antibody manufacture….it didn’t stop anybody from making antibodies, but they did all have to pay a (small percentage) royalty to Genentech for a long time. There are always ways round IP (that involve money changing hands, usually).

Just to add, if a corona vaccine becomes an annual vaccine (like flu), it won’t be because it IS like flu, in that there are different strains each year. Coronaviruses dont mutate that much. It will be annual because the immune response generated isn’t that durable.

This can be improved on potentially with an adjuvant, that boosts immune response, especially in the elderly, and restores T cell function.

So the Foreign and Commonwealth Office have decreed that holidays are abroad are now illegal. Was this voted upon by Parliament? Of course not.

It seems obvious to me where this is going. Keep stringing people along that the “vaccine” may lead to an easing of restrictions, but never actually confirm it. Then BANG slam all international borders shut in perpetuity once enough have been vaccinated to bring in the digital immunity passport and social credit score required for any internal freedom of movement or access to public and private services of any kind.

It is in the SI that made lockdown version three law. It not only made foreign holidays illegal, it made going on holiday illegal, full stop.

I think going on holiday was just as illegal in March and again in November

Correct.

Can you point me to where it says that, please?

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/8/made

The SI is written as amendments to previous SI, which renders it obscure and tedious. However, you can refer to the guidance, which is written in plain English. You simply need to bear in mind that the guidance includes more than the legislation: this is indicated by the use of must (law) and should (guidance). https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home#when-you-can-leave-home

Yes, I was kind of assuming that the next step would be the imposition of imprisonment, sorry hotel quarantine, for all arrivals with the express intention of actually locking everyone IN to the country rather than keeping the dirty foreigners OUT. And then the only way through that impenetrable wall around the countries borders would be.. dah da.. ‘the covid passport’. Get yourself injected with some of this shit and then you”ll be allowed to come and go, for as long as your vaccs are up to date anyway, and your credit score with the bank is okay, and you’ve not said anything bad on social media lately, etc, etc.

Yes, I am wondering if I will ever see my family again… I was forced to get a test (ie submit my DNA) in order to get back into Sweden, but I had no choice as all my stuff (and my current ‘life’) is here.. at some point I would have had to come back to retrieve things, whatever I decide to do long-term..
It does seem that the aim is to now ‘lock’ people where they are until they have the vaccine passports in place. The original EU commission plan for the rollout of immunity passports was 2022 but I guess they could be bringing it forward now that there is more resistance from the people than they maybe were expecting?

Oh dear, just had a row with a customer. She asked how I was, I told her. And can you believe she actually said perhaps I will feel better when the weather improves. Yes, because having my liberty and freedom forcibly removed always feels sooooo much better when the sun is shining.

In other news, the bastards have put back the bandstand cordon.

Oh dear. Sometimes people just don’t know what to say and say entirely the wrong thing.

Perhaps other people will only realised the situation is really bad when they are still in lockdown and the sun is shining.

People have absolutely no effing clue do they? I suspect the lockdown isn’t really affecting her.

That is deliberate provocation, when other police forces and councils are being considerate and respectful to the public.

That’s what I was just telling the customer. But she wouldn’t have it that we are being singled out. And she quite clearly thought I’d lost the plot when I told her about the resident ‘photographer’ …

Some good citizens will take down the barriers again. I hope.

Hopefully members of our … ahem book club will do the honours!

Know what you mean. Personally I have always loved the winter for its visiting cafes with a good book, country pubs after a walk, trips to the cinema etc. Hate the way that come the summer everyone will be rejoicing st being outside! What about us indoor types!!

SW seems to be turning into the capital of Airstrip One.

Jesus wept. Does she seriously think that lockdown will look better because the sun’s shining?

Methinks she needs her head examined.

Oh yes, Bart. Because when the sun shines all this dystopian nastiness and loss of liberty and freedom and stuff just goes away!

I think they really believe when the sun is out they will be magically released. Summer will be the end. No its another 2 months to break the virus. They feel OK because nothing has changed for a lot of silver tops. Shops twice a week, occasionally chats with their kids, rare visits. Lunch in tesco occasionally. And the bbc for strictly bake off on ice. Mustn’t grumble.