Last updated2021-02-06T14:14:49



399800 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 49, #1 of 1279 🔗
399803 ▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Steve Hayes, 9, #2 of 1279 🔗

European Leader Reacts to CCP Lockdown Reality

European leader reflects on the debacle!

400702 ▶▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 1, #3 of 1279 🔗

Canadian and UK Censorship Madness – “Not all truthful statements must be free from restrictions”


Piers Corbyn arrested for poster

399890 ▶▶ Liberty, replying to Steve Hayes, 27, #4 of 1279 🔗

But then in the latest version they changed the wording and removed Captain Tom’s name. The way they cover their backsides increases the perception that they are lying. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9149803/JANET-STREET-PORTER-Im-not-afford-fly-Dubai-jab.html

399922 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Liberty, 23, #5 of 1279 🔗

Winston Smith was hard at work

399951 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Liberty, 2, #6 of 1279 🔗

It says “Updated 3 Feb.” It does not say they made a factual correction, which appears to mean it was factually correct on 15 January and it is factually correct now.

399927 ▶▶ katz, replying to Steve Hayes, 18, #7 of 1279 🔗

Yes, there was a report on Sky News recently saying he’d had the first dose of the vaccine. It was on yotube, but it’s mysteriously vanished from there (haha).

399956 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to katz, 8, #8 of 1279 🔗

Reuters have fact-checked the claim that Captain Tom Moore had been vaccinated and found it to be false. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-vaccine-death/fact-check-captain-tom-did-not-receive-and-was-not-killed-by-the-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2A52KP
Do you think the Daily Mail and Sky News will be banned for spreading coronavirus misinformation?

399996 ▶▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to Steve Hayes, 27, #9 of 1279 🔗

It is true then.

400024 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Basileus, 23, #10 of 1279 🔗

I do not take anything the corporate media say at face value. But the concerted attempt to pretend that they never said he had been vaccinated, and that this claim originated on social media and was false, is highly suspicious.

400052 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Steve Hayes, 17, #11 of 1279 🔗

I agree. And the silence. I mean in days gone by a retraction piece was issued.

Everything is touched by the invisible hand of control right now. Must not deviate from the path.

400056 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Steve Hayes, 15, #12 of 1279 🔗

The media have been bought out and that fact makes their factchecking completely untrustworthy.

400316 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Bella Donna, 11, #13 of 1279 🔗

The purpose of the so called fact-checkers is to defend the official narratives from challenge.

400726 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #14 of 1279 🔗

Echoes of the anti-Trump campaign:

“The solution…. was to pressure platforms to enforce their rules, both by removing content or accounts that spread disinformation and by more aggressively policing it in the first place.”

Just like censoring anything not approved regarding CV19, treatments, medical doctors, side effects of any vaccine….

400309 ▶▶▶▶ Basics, replying to Steve Hayes, 11, #15 of 1279 🔗

Its a lovely little knot the fact checkers have got themselves into. The vaccine/gene therapy gives no protection against covid only lessens symptoms – they say, not me.

So obscuring the fact he was jabbed in defence of an ineffective medical intervention seems only to served the continued disinformed consent of millions of others.

Are fact checkers a guilty party deserving of tial?

400748 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Basics, #16 of 1279 🔗

No more than Julius Streicher.

400253 ▶▶▶ Basics, replying to katz, #17 of 1279 🔗

Are we to be able to read the ticker? It is blurred and illegible.

400418 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Basics, 10, #18 of 1279 🔗

I’ve seen the video. The sky presenter says he got the jab. Now how could that be fake news? Either they lied then or they are lieing now.

400477 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 6, #19 of 1279 🔗

I saw it too. Can verify what you say. It’s vanished now.

400639 ▶▶▶▶▶ Basics, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 1, #20 of 1279 🔗

Thanks, only asking since a cap would be good to share. The image with unreadable ticker isn’t. I’ve no doubt there’s a rotten stench.

Also notice the white pawn statue I joked about a few days back has been mentioned. A Tom statue for BLM to decry, and to then be appeased with a black pawn of suitably virtuous and controversial past.

400156 ▶▶ Alex, replying to Steve Hayes, 16, #21 of 1279 🔗

Late last night, I was browsing Mail Online and checked the comments on the Captain Tom story. The worst comment, with more than 300 red arrows stated that CT had received the jab as reported on Sky News. I replied that I had also heard Sky News reported that CT had been jabbed and made some other comment about the fact that this could no longer be found on the internet and that the MSM were hiding the truth. When I looked about five minutes later to see if my comment had been printed, I saw that the original comment had been pulled. DM are doing this a lot more recently. Usually the late night comments don’t get removed until the morning, so they must have extra staff on the job…

400192 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Alex, 16, #22 of 1279 🔗

You can say many many things that are considered as being against the grain right now. Lockdowns bad, NHS complicit, SAGE bought out. But the push to drive all possibly negative views on the vaccines from public view is so evident.

It says to me they’ll want to make it outright illegal soon. To be in any way opposed to the saintly vaccine will be met with jail time. I would be confident they are working on this.

400481 ▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #23 of 1279 🔗

Meanwhile, the VAERS info is available.

400479 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Alex, #24 of 1279 🔗

There’s a whole army of trolls on there in the evenings, so additional censorship staff makes sense.

400296 ▶▶ Basics, replying to Steve Hayes, #25 of 1279 🔗

Bernician has said the same.

400421 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Steve Hayes, #26 of 1279 🔗

Wouldn’t load.
Here’s the before and after, as shown on UKC:

400724 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Steve Hayes, 3, #27 of 1279 🔗

Just because they call you a conspiracy theorist, it doesn’t mean you’re wrong…:

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
“Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears.”

Disinformation = information we don’t want you to know.

400921 ▶▶▶ kpaulsmith1463, replying to LMS2, 1, #28 of 1279 🔗

And yet, what do I find everywhere – or nearly – in the media?
Shrugs or silence.
An ADMISSION, in INTERNATIONAL MEDIA, of conspiracy, and no-one cares.

399801 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 137, #29 of 1279 🔗

Pubs with no beer!

Prime Minister with no brain!

399804 ▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Ceriain, 7, #30 of 1279 🔗

The Hydroxychloroquine coverup

V for Vendetta – the Movie and the Present / UKs Hannah Dean Banned from Hospitals

399805 ▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Ceriain, 1, #31 of 1279 🔗

【Fight for Hong Kong】 by Miles Guo, New Released MV by Himalaya UK
TAKE DOWN THE CCP – Chinese Communist Party

399807 ▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to Ceriain, 56, #32 of 1279 🔗

Absolutely agree – barking mad. If Barmy Boris sanctions this he has really and truly lost the plot and needs to be sectioned – oh but that won’t work due to the psychiatric wards and services being overwhelmed. Hmmmm due to eeerrrr lockdown?

399813 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Judy Watson, 39, #33 of 1279 🔗

Dungford imposed that last December, before closing the pubs along with everything else in time for Christmas.
But then, Dungford is barking mad.

399844 ▶▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Judy Watson, 63, #34 of 1279 🔗

Churchill stated that Prohibition was “an affront to the whole history of mankind.” The item talks about Johnson being fretful and cautious, Many things were said about Churchill but I do not recall cautious and fretful being among them.
It is really weird that Johnson has become the face of totalitarian authoritarian big government. The proposed changes to the NHS seem more like Kruschev’s USSR and the complete opposite of what I would have liked to see.
We are told we are going to have elections in May, big deal, vote for dumb or dumber.

399848 ▶▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Steve Martindale, 42, #35 of 1279 🔗

Agree about NHS. Last March one of my first thoughts was this might mean someone has the guts to completely change the way the NHS works and is funded, I was wrong sadly. Still would have been a perfect opportunity. What’s proposed is pathetic tinkering as usual.

399905 ▶▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to Steve Martindale, 3, #36 of 1279 🔗
400151 ▶▶▶▶▶ Binra, replying to Basileus, 6, #37 of 1279 🔗

There’s a back story to the drama relating to financial shenanigans and deceits of the time, but there are core archetypes that resonate.
Note that this hugely popular film has not had multiple remakes.
I read that it was one of the last truly family and community minded films to come out of Hollywood.

400138 ▶▶▶ Binra, replying to Judy Watson, 2, #38 of 1279 🔗

Its the other way around. Lockdown = sectioned. And your mindset is default ‘infected’ with unconscious bias, to be restructured with a bit of ‘nudging’, vacca-cination and flouride. What could possibly go right?

Without the global bankers this fire could not burn. Therefore it is actively supported by those who hold the ultimate system of supply and choke-control to a ‘stakeholder’ level, that is then supply of the next level in the pyramid.
So the worship of possession and control is the god of ‘Private Agenda’ set in place of freedom to align in true needs lived, shared and fulfilled.

The plot always was mad, but to the private bubble seeking to evade full disclosure of lack of substance along with masking deceits to cover it, it is the only way to save ‘their world’.

399879 ▶▶ Will, replying to Ceriain, 27, #39 of 1279 🔗

They can then wash there hands and withdraw support to the hospitality trade whilst hobbling them. Given Nut Nut’s plans to put “environmental” taxes on meat and dairy products I imagine extra tax will be levied on alcohol to keep Greta and Attenborough happy.

399930 ▶▶ Vir Cotto, replying to Ceriain, 2, #40 of 1279 🔗

Sounds like an opportune time to invest in root-beer.

400274 ▶▶▶ Binra, replying to Vir Cotto, 1, #41 of 1279 🔗

Yes that’s the mindset that feeds the money to the money that feeds on us.
IE Looking for personal profit above all else.
But then the correctness agenda is setting top down social ‘goals’ above profit so as to destroy the Economy under Green deals and etc.

However the point is the top down social conditioning that ratchets everything around the ‘one virus to rule them all’, hence questioning the fundamental basis of virus theory – as a genuine exploration of honest account. Not only reveals lack of scientific veracity, but the nature of a mind-capture that is predisposed to react from the belief that it is self-evident.

Otherwise you are merely pleading within a prison for better conditions.

That the funding of world banks and taxed populations can be directed to focus within specific framing of ‘bought science’ is the way Big Money controls the narrative or mind by which priority is given or denied. Priority to ‘bio-obscurity’ and obfuscation technology can be immensely lucrative (rewarded). Exposing the obscuring of fact

If you just want you narrative reality to ‘normalise’ you are a sitting duck for the targeting.

400222 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Ceriain, 28, #42 of 1279 🔗

MPs have always hated pubs. They see it as dens of iniquity where all drunk and disorder issues take place. They do not understand that the pub is a self regulated part of the community. It is a place where people are served responsibly and told when enough is enough. Violence is often rare as the punters tend to police each other and look out for their own.

It was labour who started the first hatchet job of the pubs with the beer duty escalator. Budget after budget that cunt Darling increased duty even though he was advised less tax was coming back and pubs were closing at a rate of 35 per week.

Make no mistake they want rid of your local pub. Of course they don’t want rid of their Westminster pub. Rules for thee not for me.

400305 ▶▶▶ Sceptical Steve, replying to JHUNTZ, 16, #43 of 1279 🔗

Spot on, and don’t forget how they left their own bars open within the Palace of Westminster during the original lockdown. Self-centred twats!

400354 ▶▶ Edward, replying to Ceriain, 18, #44 of 1279 🔗

It shows how detached the elite are from normal people.
(a) How could pubs be viable businesses without serving alcohol? *
(b) People, particularly the young, will just “tank up” at home before going out to the alcohol-free pub.
(c) Even non-drinkers can get boisterous when with a group of friends – social dynamics plays at least as big a part as alcohol.

* What next? – churches can open but no praying, preaching or singing?
Schools can open but no teaching? That’s back to normal for them. (Cheap joke, apologies to any good teachers reading this!)

400488 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Edward, 9, #45 of 1279 🔗

In Iceland, where alcohol is prohibitively expensive ( literally), it’s normal to get tanked up before you go out for the evening.
And in the remoter areas of Sweden, I’n told, they brew their own alcohol and it’ll blow your head off if you aren’t careful.

400641 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Edward, 7, #46 of 1279 🔗

No alcohol means most people won’t bother. The are going to leave their beer at home for an overpriced lemonade down at the pub, no I don’t think so.

399802 NorthumbrianNomad, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 73, #47 of 1279 🔗

In Harry Martinson’s Nobel Prize-winning space epic Aniara , a gigantic gondola transporting refugees from a ruined Earth to settler colonies on Mars is disabled by debris from an asteroid in a freak accident. Powerless, its engines destroyed, it is set on an unstoppable course out of the Solar System, but its life support systems are intact, so life goes on, for the moment, much as before. The captain assures the passengers that everything will be done to restore normality and resume the planned journey, even though he knows nothing can be done. The passengers are panicked and fearful, then reassured. They are entertained by a virtual reality system that projects into their minds the most wonderful images, memories and fantasies, according to its analysis of their personal preferences. Cocooned from reality, they begin almost to enjoy the limited life, and a society develops.

Gradually, inexorably, unease spreads as it begins to dawn on some that normality will not be restored. Religious cults emerge – from the puritanical to the ecstatic and hedonistic. Riots break out, but the crew puts them down – on a spaceship, violence is inexcusable, dangerous. Suicides increase. The captain continues to offer regular reassurance. Help is just round the corner. Once the spaceship comes near enough to the gravitational field of a celestial body, he insists, it can use that to slingshot itself round and back to Mars.

The virtual reality system, which has developed an intelligence of its own and which the passengers now worship as a deity, cracks under the psychological pressure of keeping so many unhappy people happy and destroys itself. The passengers turn its burnt-out control room into a shrine.

Some individuals deal with the situation better than others. A young woman, Daisy, just dances and listens to music, keeps her mind empty and thrives.

Lost in a world of his own, meanwhile, the captain becomes increasingly despotic, imprisoning officers who question him, and doing everything he can to conceal (not least from himself) how bleak the situation is. There is no respite, except in the cultivation of the imagination, dreams and escapist fantasies. The poems (the poet is the technician who once maintained the virtual reality machine) become more and more poignant, beautiful and hallucinatory as life becomes more and more diminished. For life adapts to the available habitat. After all, it’s not so different from a colony on Mars, or even from Earth: it’s just a bubble in space, and you live inside it as best you can. All that’s missing is the hope of a better future. Daisy, for example, simply grows old and dies: “the dance-besotted Daisy slept forever in her helix in the vault where none but adepts of the dance were laid to slumber.”

Millions of years later, the long-dead spaceship crashes into a star in the constellation of Lyra.

It’s science fiction, of course. Completely unrealistic. Martinson imagined the lethal diversion caused by a freak accident. In reality, it was a deliberate decision.

399814 ▶▶ Annie, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 31, #48 of 1279 🔗

Or think of the space ship in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy that has been on the launch pad, with its passengers in suspended animation ‘for your comfort and convenience’, for centuries because it never got its delivery of little lemon-scented sachets hers for wiping your hands.

399868 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Annie, 8, #49 of 1279 🔗

On the other hand Golgafrincham was wiped out because the telephone sanitisers had been ‘sent ahead’ on  Ark Fleet Ship B .

400492 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Nigel Sherratt, 2, #50 of 1279 🔗

Yeah, they all died of a disease contracted from an unsanitised telephone.
I used to think that was a really way-out idea, but a zombie would quake with terror at it.

400123 ▶▶▶ Alethea, replying to Annie, 2, #51 of 1279 🔗

Good morning Annie. Always nice to see you here.

399864 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 5, #52 of 1279 🔗

Did they serve beer in the bars?

399875 ▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to Cecil B, 9, #53 of 1279 🔗

Oh yes ever tried a pan galactic gargle blaster. Headache in a glass.

400494 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Judy Watson, 2, #54 of 1279 🔗

It’s worse if you have two heads and only one of them is drunk We have Zaphod’s word for that.

400122 ▶▶ Alethea, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 4, #55 of 1279 🔗

Good morning NN. Thanks for your post. I’m less on my own than I would otherwise be.

400505 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Alethea, 4, #56 of 1279 🔗

You’re never alone if you’re a sceptic. We believe in human, which means we believe in sociable.
Ho anthropos zoon politikon . (Stefanos can do the Greek characters.)
If you’re an SF fan, you’re in good company here, as you can see.
We call for solidarity among carbon-based life forms everywhere!

400326 ▶▶ Binra, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 3, #57 of 1279 🔗

The whole thing is a retelling of the Fall in modern narrative.

It posits a usurping of and splitting off from Consciousness to a situation of ‘disconnect, distance, lockdown (or locked out), and masking narrative evasion of the ‘Inevitable’.

The image of crashing into a Star is the death of the capacity (life support) for a split off bubble perspective as separate from its True Being.

To the split off ego Consciousness (big C or Infinity) is death, and life is the light that can be stolen or limited and split off from, to ‘save’ from dispossession. (Prometheus or indeed Prodigal Son).

Fear and guilt and projection are the core operators of a ‘lockdown’ mind to its ‘body’ of rules, filters and limits.

But the Law of Mind remains that what you give, sets the measure of your receipt, and so the projection of the attempt to GET RID of the hated and feared, concretises a world OF denial, debt, conflict and deceit. Go Figure! It all works!

A fundamental error, uncorrected, is a false foundation from which all else logically follows in the frame of a mistaken identity – running as believed fact by reactions operating as conditioned reflex to the same core error no matter what forms it takes.

Does truth get in the way of a good story?
Not while the narrative is given priority as the source and support for our identity.
We are freedom within Mind to explore creation through the lens of a mythic casting out of Idea. As we can here and now confirm. But what we set as the ideas from which we then extend and unfold, determines or rules what can follow unless such core definitions are re-evaluated or released for a change of mind about our mind.

399806 NorthumbrianNomad, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 79, #58 of 1279 🔗

AT LAST! The government finally reacts to the crisis! It’s what millions up and down the country have been dreaming of: health warnings on sausages.

Global Britain is really up and running.

399833 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 8, #59 of 1279 🔗

My own take on this is is “Oh so they’re now in process of tying the NHS up into as neat a bundle as they can manage are they? All the better to have it ready to sell off (probably to US big business”. But why the imposing fluoride in water onto those fortunate enough to be safe from that currently (thank goodness it’s just England that will be affected if they do that…and I’m safe from that here in Wales).

399842 ▶▶▶ Jonathan Smith, replying to ElizaP, 13, #60 of 1279 🔗

For most of the time since the inception of the NHS the UK has had a Conservative government. Their record is no worse than Labour. This, and the fact that the NHS has reached peak cult status this year, make it highly unlikely the government is preparing for a sell-off.

400896 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Jonathan Smith, 1, #61 of 1279 🔗

Tony Blair for all his faults didn’t totally wreck the health service. The real NHS disaster started with Cameron et al.

400919 ▶▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Rowan, 2, #62 of 1279 🔗

The PFI was and is an unmitigated disaster.A lot of shiny new hospitals were built with smaller capacity and a massive ongoing maintenance bill.This was Blair’s legacy to the NHS

399850 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to ElizaP, 33, #63 of 1279 🔗

It needs selling off. We need a completely different model and full accountability of management.

399871 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to ituex, 7, #64 of 1279 🔗

Would you buy a very ill-used NHS/Moloch from this lot?

399909 ▶▶▶ rose, replying to ElizaP, 17, #65 of 1279 🔗

I thought science had found so many bad effects of fluoride on the body that adding fluoride to water was a thing of the past.

400117 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to rose, 6, #66 of 1279 🔗

You know that. I know that. But there’s probably lobbyists being paid to say otherwise. Add yer average British level of inefficiency and apparatchiks in place in the relevant Water Boards just doing what they’ve always done…

400519 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to ElizaP, 3, #67 of 1279 🔗

Yorkshire Water stated back in 2000 that they had no intention of fluoridating the water.
They know it’s toxic and they’d be criminally liable. They’ll only add it if HMG forces them to.

400335 ▶▶▶▶ Sceptical Steve, replying to rose, -1, #68 of 1279 🔗

The original studies on Fluoride back in the early 20th Century established that areas with a natural background level of Fluoride observed substantial dental health benefits. Fluoridation, where it is applied, just aims to replicate those natural levels found elsewhere, and never approaches the levels identified as causing adverse health effects. (And I’m normally sceptical about this type of universal medication!)

400521 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Sceptical Steve, 7, #69 of 1279 🔗

Not true!
The fluoride added to water supplies is not the same substance as that found naturally.
The additive is actually a toxic by-product of the aluminium industry, which is very difficult to dispose of legally and cheaply.
There’s a lot of lobbying for fluoridation. Now you know why!

400593 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Cheezilla, -1, #70 of 1279 🔗

Absolute nonsense.

You are as mad as a box of frogs.

401012 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to AidanR, 1, #71 of 1279 🔗

Cheezilla is quite correct. Where do you get your information from?

399835 ▶▶ Jonathan Smith, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 7, #72 of 1279 🔗

I read that and thought it would be tragic if it were true. Just seems way too specific and slightly absurd: Sausages. How we laughed.

399855 ▶▶ Annie, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 29, #73 of 1279 🔗

Remember the ciggy joke?
‘Those warnings on cigarette packets frightened me so much that I gave up reading.’

399982 ▶▶ Marg, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 12, #74 of 1279 🔗

Perhaps a petition is needed to save our sausages, has a good ring -perhaps someone in Cumberland could start it off.

400507 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Marg, 2, #75 of 1279 🔗

If you remember, Hacker became PM thanks to a campaign to Save the British Sausage.

400164 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 30, #76 of 1279 🔗

But this absolutely sums out how out of touch people like handjob are. Oh my the people are fat, its because they are consuming too many sausages. What? Fat people are fat because they consume more calories than they burn. Try starting with take aways. One big mac, fries and drink is about 70% of a teenagers daily calorific needs. Is has fuck all quality protein and a shit load if carbs. Its not message’s on sausages you dumb twat its education. Starting with yourself handjob. The nhs is still talking about low fat diets, this has been incorrect since the 80’s and still you pedal this bullshit.
There are thousands of personal trainers sitting at home with gyms closed who you could pay to help overweight people change their lifestyle. Assign them to doctors surgeries and let us help people. Set up exercise rooms in local council offices where we can set up fat buster classes where only obese people would be allowed. Education is key, fuck me if you can terrify the majority of the population to stand 6 feet apart, stay at home, ignore their loved ones and wear a mask making people put down the fork should be easy?

401008 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Spikedee1, #77 of 1279 🔗

Is he out of touch? The public seem to accept it all and clap for it.

399808 Cecil B, 48, #78 of 1279 🔗

10 stabbed in London

A little light relief from the daily slaughter by the state

399809 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 39, #79 of 1279 🔗

It would appear that they are actually admitting that they couldn’t organise a piss up in brewery

399811 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Cecil B, 14, #80 of 1279 🔗

Don’t know what the fuss is about. The plan worked fine in Wales when they did it. Encouraged a massive 10% of pubs to reopen for business as coffee shops.

399810 Richy_m_99, replying to Richy_m_99, 10, #81 of 1279 🔗

Good morning all.

Light relief of a different type to Cecil’s – The Marsh Family version of the Bonnoe Tyler classic, Totally Fixed Where We Are.


(No spology for reposting. We all need a good laugh af something other than pubs with no alcohol).

399812 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Richy_m_99, 10, #82 of 1279 🔗

Well, they have changed their tune. I will be surprised if BBC Breakfast decides to showcase this one.

399815 ▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Steve Hayes, 7, #83 of 1279 🔗

I am aware that they have done other, less supporting of our views, but hey, the sheeple don’t look beyond what is right in front of their noses. This one gives off the right message.

Get us out of this lockdown madness

401023 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Richy_m_99, 2, #84 of 1279 🔗


At best, this is a foreplanned shakedown racket by Big Pharma, holding the populations of the world at knife-point in order to palm off an unnecessary ‘vaccine’, dangerous to boot. In this they are aided by the financial institutions who are covering up another collapse and transfer of tax payer’s money upwards. In order to do this psychological warfare is being carried out by peoples’ own governments. Gates has monopolized the media, legacy and social. The medical profession is a coward. So is the scientific profession.

This is the worst crime against humanity in human history, given the scale.

A far worse scenario is that this gene therapy is an experimentation on the human race in order to prepare the way for the mandatory and undeclared introduction of nanotechnologies that will hook people up to a social credit cloud,


This is full scale EVIL.

The Good Club, Operation Lockstep, The Great Reset: Agenda 21 to 30.

399988 ▶▶ mj, replying to Richy_m_99, 7, #85 of 1279 🔗

nope – still the family of a university lecturer still able to work from home on full pay taking the piss out the situation and still following the government line – that vaccine will rescue us all and only then will everything be back to normal. And as the wife is also an ex teacher I doubt whether those kids are suffering from lack of schooling.

401027 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to mj, #86 of 1279 🔗

A clichéd performance phoned in from Klaus Schwab and Agenda 21.

400194 ▶▶ AnotherEmma, replying to Richy_m_99, #87 of 1279 🔗

Loved that thank you

401010 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Richy_m_99, #88 of 1279 🔗

I’m sorry but they are just playing into the narrative that the lockdowns are well-meaning and that nothing foul is at play.

I find it PATHETIC entertainment that looks really stupid.

As lovely as the children may be, this is a family whose mother and father are apparently lacking the natural ability to recognise bad intent for their sake and do a little research into Operation Lockstep and the coming agenda. Pathetic.

399816 Marcus, replying to Marcus, 45, #89 of 1279 🔗

The point is, that severe NPIs can only ‘flatten the curve’ in the short term, and cannot have significant long term impact on the spread of the disease and number of deaths.

Twelve months ago this was recognised by 99% of the world of public health, which has since been consumed by deranged, fanatical and totalitarian thinking (even from self-anointed ‘classical liberals’).

I am yet to see one concrete estimate of how many lives the lockdowns in Britain have saved.

399817 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Marcus, 3, #90 of 1279 🔗

The estimate of lives saved is: Ferguson’s computer generated half a million minus the alleged hundred thousand which equal four hundred thousand lives saved.

399818 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Marcus, 23, #91 of 1279 🔗

What’s a ‘concrete estimate’?
There can never be a reliable figure for the number of people who didn’t die when they would have died if it wasn’t for universal incarceration. The idea is ridiculous, just as the whole shitshow is ridiculous.

399968 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Marcus, 2, #92 of 1279 🔗

It’s all based on Ferguson’s virtual reality contiguous cull model. I can give you a concrete estimate with equal validity: 0. I’ll add in negative effects and crank the handle again: -300k. Happy? 🙂

400073 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to Marcus, 4, #93 of 1279 🔗

Life is not saved, it is merely death delayed.

399819 Elisabeth, replying to Elisabeth, 56, #94 of 1279 🔗

If they can classify everything as Covid to keep the fear narrative going then pub owners can just rebrand alcoholic beverages. Beer now identifies as mineral water. Whiskey is now mint tea. Wine identifies as grape juice…

399820 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Elisabeth, 13, #95 of 1279 🔗

And if you get drunk within 28 hours of imbibing plain water, your state will be attributed to drinking neat whiskey.

399873 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Annie, 4, #96 of 1279 🔗

Then a sudden rush of people falling flat on their faces after drinking mint tea will lead to another lockdown without end whilst the cause is sought.

400002 ▶▶ thinkaboutit, replying to Elisabeth, 10, #97 of 1279 🔗

But don’t drink the mint tea on a park bench. That’s a picnic.

400119 ▶▶ Cedric the dragon, replying to Elisabeth, 3, #98 of 1279 🔗

It sounds like “The Frankie Drake Mysteries” set in Prohibition Era Toronto. “Cold tea” is the popular drink in bars and cafes- clearly brown alcohol- and Frankie has an alcohol still in her wardrobe. They drink Martini style cocktails at home.

400124 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Elisabeth, 10, #99 of 1279 🔗

Reminds me of many years ago (probably still happens now) visiting my parents who had been seconded to work in an alcohol-prohibited country in Asia. There was a large community of ex-pats who frequented certain local restaurants where beer and wine were served in teapots to be consumed in teacups, just in case prying eyes might be passing by.

400530 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Dodderydude, 4, #100 of 1279 🔗

My mother told me that the genteel ladies enjoying their cucumber sandwiches on the lawn would ask if their guests wanted cream in their tea. What was poured from the teapot was whisky.

399824 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Marcus, 6, #102 of 1279 🔗

It’s just the Grauniad. Usual fetid garbage. But it does make me wonder if Magic Money Sunak is more of a friend than I thought.

399822 Annie, replying to Annie, 3, #103 of 1279 🔗

The Irreverend duo are now on You tube.
How long, I wonder, before somebody denounces them as true Christians and they are taken down, and probably sacked by Dustbin Jellybaby?
Until then, enjoy.


399857 ▶▶ ituex, replying to Annie, 3, #104 of 1279 🔗

They are the the nearest thing to true Christians I have heard in a long time. Wouldn’t be allowed on any BBC religious programming that’s for sure. Brilliant podcast. Highly recommended.

400150 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Annie, 1, #105 of 1279 🔗

“Dustbin Jellybaby”

399823 Scotty87, replying to Scotty87, 45, #106 of 1279 🔗

For the first time in my life I’m actually looking forward to the local elections this year, should they not be subjected to a last minute cancellation of course.

With holidays being made illegal this year, pubs being morphed into juice bars and inevitable restrictions on household gatherings set to persist throughout the year, anybody believing this will be a summer of freedom is hopelessly misguided. With the Times confirming that Boris is the snivelling coward we all know him to be, even the vaccination of all over 50s won’t return our civil liberties intact.

I truly hope the government has believed the clearly fraudulent opinion polls, and that they go into these elections confident that the bulk of the public will show their support for the restrictions with their votes. The reality will come as a seismic shock to the Tory top brass.

And when this inevitably leads to politics snatching the reins from public health, how long before doom-mongers such as Whitty, Ferguson, Vallance and Van-Tam are given the unceremonious boot out the door?

Boris only cares about Boris. Crush the Tories in May and we’ll start to see real change.

399827 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Scotty87, 25, #107 of 1279 🔗

Crush the tories and let in lockdown-forever-Smarmer? You crazy or something?

399832 ▶▶▶ Scotty87, replying to Annie, 31, #108 of 1279 🔗

It’s not a general election. Farage will have his party up and running, and Richard Tice (party chairman) has been very vocal on lockdowns and PCR fraud. Say what you want about him but Farage is a cunning political opportunist. Labour will back the cancellation of summer – voters will be reminded of this when campaigning starts.

Your average Joe probably won’t be motivated to vote, but I suspect many, many thousands of people incensed with the damage done to their businesses, their children and their livelihoods will.

I’m confident that the result will be a positive one.

399876 ▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Scotty87, 1, #109 of 1279 🔗

Either going to have to hold our noses and plump for one party
or enter into an LDS alliance where various parties carve out a niche around the UK
Splitting the anger vote helps no-one

399881 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Scotty87, 38, #110 of 1279 🔗

Whether he knows it or not, Farage’s work is only half done. Next job destroy the Conservative Party.

I too think they are in for a very nasty electoral shock. Great. I say this as a former Conservative voter and a natural conservative. From now on I am going to vote for whatever party I judge will do the most damage to the Conservatives.

Labour and the rest are irrelevant. There’s a political reset coming, and right now no one knows how it will end.

399913 ▶▶▶▶▶ WasSteph, replying to TJN, 16, #111 of 1279 🔗

I was a Conservative party member until recently. I would love to see them destroyed but I suspect the only choice I will have will be to spoil my ballot. I doubt I’ll see a true anti-lockdown candidate to vote for. I’d love to be wrong.

400076 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to WasSteph, 2, #112 of 1279 🔗

If necessary, I will quite happily spoil my ballot paper, and sign it ‘A former Conservative voter’.

400025 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to TJN, 7, #113 of 1279 🔗

Totally agree! from a former labour/lib dem/green voter.

400086 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Fingerache Philip, 8, #114 of 1279 🔗

Yep, this is now way beyond pre-covid party political squabbling. The whole damn lot of them have to go.

Toby said on here months ago that he was now politically homeless. Same here, except that I’m not actually homeless. I believe fervently in the destruction of all the current mainstream parties. That at least is a political home of sorts.

400546 ▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Scotty87, #115 of 1279 🔗

I hope you’re right. We certainly need a viable third option!

399849 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Scotty87, 7, #116 of 1279 🔗

Sorry to disappoint but my best guess/model/prediction is that 80% to 90% of the population are Covidians and they will vote for the party of their Saviour…… the new Churchill

399860 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Cecil B, 7, #117 of 1279 🔗

But they may well be too scared to leave the house. Those of us happy to go out aren’t particularly keen on them are we.

399869 ▶▶▶ Llamasaurus Rex, replying to Cecil B, 22, #118 of 1279 🔗

I fear you are spot on…the brainwashed sheeple will back dePiffle and his CCPoid corrupt, weak rabble. Or some will vote for that twat, max headroom.
i will consider the best way to vote to hurt the Tories. I’m now fully with Peter Hitchens on this – there won’t ever be a decent Liberty party until the Tories are destroyed. It’s taken me a long time to understand that.

399877 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Llamasaurus Rex, 5, #119 of 1279 🔗

We had a clean sweep out of con on the town council and a change from con to lab control at Swale which felt like a thrilling revolution for a while. The new lot are just as hopeless of course with the appalling Perkin moaning about ‘spoons and wittering on about vegan food at town council events (opt out for our French twin town lucky old them!). My plan is to vote for anyone who makes Whately doubt that she really is in one of the safest seats in UK. Canterbury has gone lab (“those students!”) so it’s possible. Voting for lab anti-Semites will be a struggle but these are desperate times. Let’s hope RUK can come up with some options.

399910 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Llamasaurus Rex, 8, #120 of 1279 🔗

There is usually a decent Independent to vote for. The one I voted for last time came first!

399925 ▶▶▶▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 2, #121 of 1279 🔗

The problem is that (at least near me) there is no information available on candidates. It’s such a safe red-party area that even the red candidates can’t be bothered to send flyers or put anything online about themselves. So I end up having to pick a random independent (if any are available) or spoil the paper. I really hope there is a reform candidate, but they may not waste their time in my area.

399941 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to TheBluePill, 7, #122 of 1279 🔗

Heritage, Reform, Reclaim, Indies. The hope is you get at least one of them otherwise yes spoiling is the only option. The best entry for these embryo parties is into local government where they can build up a support base and infrastructure and make themselves heard. Very hard to get even 1 MP without local activists and support.

400201 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #123 of 1279 🔗


400560 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, -1, #124 of 1279 🔗

No way!
Look up communitarianism and you’ll know why to avoid them.

400030 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #125 of 1279 🔗

Two seats in our small town won by a tory and an independent.

400179 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Cecil B, 4, #126 of 1279 🔗

Not sure if its that high. I only know one lady who is a believer everyone else can see what a balls up the fat pig dictator has made of it and will never vote for him again. Everyone I know hates Starmer! So we are all party less.

400017 ▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Scotty87, 2, #127 of 1279 🔗

Crush them all and vote Reclaim (if they are allowed to stand), or “spoil” the ballot paper.

400020 ▶▶ mariehelene, replying to Scotty87, 4, #128 of 1279 🔗

Yes! Labour even for lockdown fanatics! I don’t want that! And the unions keeping kids out of school for another year? I’m sorry to say so but this is bloody hopeless!

400268 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Scotty87, 1, #129 of 1279 🔗

should they not be subjected to a last minute cancellation of course.

don’t hold your breath, will you. I think even the pretence of democracy will be dropped now – it virtually already has been

400373 ▶▶ Edward, replying to Scotty87, 2, #130 of 1279 🔗

I’ve pretty much decided to spoil my paper by writing SCUM across the list of candidates. Unless there’s a fringe party which I consider deserves my vote.

400598 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Scotty87, 1, #131 of 1279 🔗

You guys have Dominion voting machines? Asking for a friend…

399825 Niborxof, replying to Niborxof, 4, #132 of 1279 🔗

Does anybody know what happened to Mike Yeadon on twitter?

399828 ▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to Niborxof, 7, #133 of 1279 🔗

All I know is that posts of his were altered to make it look as though he’d been spouting racist abuse.

399846 ▶▶▶ Niborxof, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 13, #134 of 1279 🔗

Thanks. It seems he perhaps signed off. Fed up of being smeared and life targeted.

399900 ▶▶▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to Niborxof, 6, #135 of 1279 🔗

I think so.

399936 ▶▶ Vir Cotto, replying to Niborxof, 13, #136 of 1279 🔗

Twitter is such a cesspool, I don’t know why anyone would want to use it. Isn’t Mike Yeadon working with the new HART group anyway? He’d be better off focusing his energy there..

400058 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Niborxof, 10, #137 of 1279 🔗

He’s gone. He’s also stated he has lost a lot of business since this all began.

Mayo will see this as a victory.

I am disgusted.

400196 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Niborxof, 6, #138 of 1279 🔗

And it should prove why Twatter should not be the forum for debate or social comment. Its just a load of dumb schoolchildren bickering without any intelligence. What this whole issue has proved is we have no outlet for sensible debate just idiotic childish name calling and sjw backstabbers. Where is the forum for LS views? Democracy my arse!

399826 NorthumbrianNomad, 18, #139 of 1279 🔗

Stabbings in London. Hancock outlaws knives, “new-variant foreign knives” particularly lethal – borders closed. The Side (formerly The Edge) from U2 and Lee Mack “the Spatula” (formerly “the Knife”) to head up new publicity drive – “if it’s not soft enough to cut with a spoon, I don’t want to eat it.”

399829 ElizaP, replying to ElizaP, 11, #140 of 1279 🔗

Probably not just London that is losing population in this country. I suspect we’re going to see a pretty wholesale redistribution of population and the longer Bloody Lockdown goes on for then the more this will be so. Personally I moved a few years ago from a small/nice city (one of the provincial ones) to elsewhere in the country. So I’ve been following property for sale closely ever since in both areas (mine and the area I now live in). Back in the early 2010’s the only home computers I noticed in property details in my provincial city were clearly used in the vast majority of cases by the owner for themselves personally. In the last few months I am noticing a LOT more computers in peoples homes for sale in that city by far (ie in those estate agent details) than I ever used to and it’s very clear many of those computers are being used for work, rather than personally. My strong suspicion is that many people even in smaller/nicer cities are now trying to move to elsewhere in the country.

To me – for people to even move from a pleasant small city just goes to show how many people now feel pretty disillusioned about whether we will ever be allowed to have Normal back again and are thus rehousing themselves elsewhere.

399840 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to ElizaP, 8, #141 of 1279 🔗

True, I live ‘elsewhere in the country’ There is a massive influx and house prices are going through the roof

399940 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to ElizaP, 3, #142 of 1279 🔗

Funny that. My area over the last few years have seen an influx of people moving back into London because they couldn’t afford living in the country plus the commuting.

400133 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Bart Simpson, 4, #143 of 1279 🔗

That to me would be explicable by the fact that living in a more country-ish type area is dearer in some respects – eg if heating isn’t mains or solar panels it will be dearer, there’s having to have a car (courtesy of poor public transport – though of course lots of people who don’t need one have one anyway) and so on. But if one focuses down on about the last 6 months I think a different picture emerges – ie once people (both us and the sheeple) clicked that Bloody Lockdown seems to be going on for an awful lot longer than 3 weeks.

400207 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to ElizaP, 4, #144 of 1279 🔗

I Don’t think the “city” will be the place of work anymore. Any big business will be looking at their work still being carried out and asking, why do we need that head office in London? My wife works in Harlow and has been WFH for a year. They have closed half the site down, got rid of the canteen. If she ever goes back her fancy electro pass and access key has been programmed to buzz if she goes closer than two metres from a colleague. Yes that would make me rush back. They have sold off half their swish London office.

399830 PatrickF, replying to PatrickF, 39, #145 of 1279 🔗

How do I audition for the role of a Covid victim on the “can you look them in the eye?” TV adverts?
I can look mournful in a face nappy. I can look pitiful in a face shield. I can look reproachful in bed. I can even, if required, say “you killed Captain Tom, and now you’re killing me.”

399911 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to PatrickF, 7, #146 of 1279 🔗

Study lots of pictures of very sad puppies. Project yourself deep into their dear little souls.

400379 ▶▶ Edward, replying to PatrickF, 2, #147 of 1279 🔗

If this isn’t too far-fetched, when wearing my exemption badge and passing a door monitor I try to look like a person who might have breathing difficulties if my face was covered.

399834 Cecil B, 22, #148 of 1279 🔗

Run the hares

Today children we will be looking through the round window

The fairy story will be read by unnamed source

This hilarious fairy story is a tale about pubs without beer and about sausages

Smiling Ted is a little upset that you have been laughing at his very serious scary stories about mutants

Todays funny stories are here to make you feel sad and frustrated. The stories were created by a special unit funded by your mums and dads. The unit wants you to spend the day clicking and ticking on social media (whatever that is)

At teatime unnamed source will deny that such things were ever said. The newspapers will not report this as they will be too busy producing tomorrows guff for the plebs

Children did you know that unnamed source is a euphemism for lying cunt?

Children do you know what a euphemism is? No of course not, you haven’t been too school have you

399836 SallyM, replying to SallyM, 44, #149 of 1279 🔗

The hospice nurse’s piece is fantastic. Way too mature, unfortunately, for our death-phobic, medicalised culture.

399852 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to SallyM, 12, #150 of 1279 🔗

She’s absolutely right of course. I know this more than most – as my own father was kept artificially “alive” for more than 30 years – as his health just went down and down ad infinitum and yet still they kept up the artificial interference (for which I was never quite sure how much was his own choice to unnaturally prolong his life – as he was an atheist and didn’t want to leave my mother on her own). I managed to agree with my erstwhile brother and sister-in-law that our mother was just to be “kept comfortable and painfree” thankfully and she wasn’t an atheist (ie so not scared of death).

Thanks to the nurse for putting up those details re living will. I used to have one previously – but had to bin it when I found the NHS were withdrawing artificial nutrition and hydration and that that was painful for the recipient. Will check it out to see if it’s possible for me to spell out in exact detail what I would or wouldn’t be prepared to have (ie no life-prolonging treatment – but they WILL do artificial nutrition/hydration if need be) and I want to put in a voluntary euthanasia clause to be effective the second the law changes to allow that in this country (perhaps I should call it the “5 minutes later clause” – to indicate that I would expect them to be watching the news and the second the Government fired the starting gun to make voluntary euthanasia legal I’d be watching the clock to check whether they’d done the deed literally 5 minutes later).

399914 ▶▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to ElizaP, 17, #151 of 1279 🔗

Thanks Eliza. I just wanted to say that although you are correct to bring religion into this discussion, being an atheist does not mean being fearful of death. I am atheist and I assure you I do not fear death at all. I am totally comfortable with the concept of ceasing to exist, and would similarly want my life to end at the humane point. Why are pets are given this right but not people?

There is a big difference between being an atheist because it is logical and becoming an atheist because you can’t be bothered with religion. I would expect that most atheists who got there through deep thought, do not fear death. The people that replaced old religion with new religions like social media virtue signalling are the ones presently running around like headless chickens.

Saying that, I think lack of religion is a big part of the covid problem. I used to think that the world would be a better place without religion, but I now appreciate that people are not ready for it. It turns out that most people cannot function in a decent way when faced with perceived risk of death, especially if they don’t really believe they are going to live on a cloud/get an allocation of virgins/come back as an animal etc.

400252 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to TheBluePill, 7, #152 of 1279 🔗

I suspect most people who claim to have a principled objection to religion are in fact objecting to something else entirely – namely dogma, superstition, irrationality. These things often appear under the guise of religion, but they are not only found there, -as we are now seeing only too clearly- and it seems to me they are to some extent endemic in the human psyche and will never be entirely rooted out

400131 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to ElizaP, 9, #153 of 1279 🔗

I am an atheist and have no fear of death. In fact, I’d rather it right now compared to this shitshow that society has become.

400145 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Ewan Duffy, 2, #154 of 1279 🔗

I have been wondering how atheists feel about it – because it’s such a different outlook to my own. I understand why I obviously feel a bit anxious about the transition process to an afterlife. But I am 101% sure there will be an Afterlife and it will be a much much better place than here and I will start by celebrating being free from Earth. So thanks for explaining that – as I do try and think about how an atheist would feel about this – but can’t get my head round it, because it’s so different to my own thinking.

400217 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo, replying to ElizaP, 4, #155 of 1279 🔗

I’m an atheist, although brought up as a Quaker. I am not frightened of death but a little scared of dying, especially if the medical profession are any way involved.

400600 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Jo, 1, #156 of 1279 🔗

That sums it up for me too. I’m an atheist as well and I don’t really think about what happens after death — don’t know and don’t much care. Like you, I’m way more afraid of dying at the hands of the medical profession than of death itself. Even as a very young person I was more afraid of getting old than of dying. Now that I’m middle-aged I’d say this still holds true. As a person who needs to be in control, becoming older and infirm signifies a lack of control to me. This has been brought home by what has happened to people in LTC facilities, even the high-end ones.

400975 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ fiery, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 3, #157 of 1279 🔗

I’m not afraid of dying but I’m absolutely terrified of the medical profession forcibly prolonging my life when there’s no quality left.

399902 ▶▶ Annie, replying to SallyM, 14, #158 of 1279 🔗

Reminds me of an old villager, dying in hospital some years ago. Our rector went and visited him in hospital (imagine the pathetic little clergyworms doing that now!), and the serene old man told him, with simple dignity, ‘I’ve made my peace with God.’
I pray I will be able to say the same.

400902 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Annie, #159 of 1279 🔗

My favourite is the French writer Rabelais, who said he was going in search of a great “perhaps”. The hint of even a doubt of an afterlife was somewhat revolutionary for 1553.

400278 ▶▶ Marvin Falz, replying to SallyM, 7, #160 of 1279 🔗

I believe the hospice nurse’s piece holds true for Germany, too. The system shows “love and care” as a facade, but then hospitals were closed in 2020. Health care workers who are critical of the jab, get kicked from their jobs. Ward managers are under a lot of pressure, because government wants everybody to get the vaccine. But it’s not only the system’s fault, since people seem to be under the impression, they will live forever, when everybody does what the “experts” say. Or, they’re simply afraid of pain, death and dying. Maybe it’s the fear of the unknown. Maybe a suppressed guilty conscience, and the fear of judgement from God? (Coincidentally, the transhumanist vision of mankind seems to stem from a fear of life and death, a fear of the human body, the free expression of the body, and therefore aims to get rid of the human body, and achieve immortality. That’s just my impression.) The way the pandemic is handled by goverments and MSM has just hightened this fear of pain,death and dying. It’s incredible, how people would rather see society collapse, and how they rather turn against “deviants”, than let everybody decide how to live based on uncensored information. And the weirdest attitude I have discovered so far, is how victims of C19 use their fate to claim the moral high ground. Those want everybody to think and do the same, because “we’re in this together”, and we all show our care for each other by wearing those masks, but when it comes to suffering, which was not caused by C19 itself, but by the countermeasures, they’re inclined to turn a blind eye. Maybe C19 also reveals another problem, which modern Western societies have produced, and that is egotism or narcissism.

399837 danny, replying to danny, 50, #161 of 1279 🔗

So I see the much fabled “R” rate is now lower than since July.
A time when there was a certain level of normality, meeting families, “eating out to help out”, going to the cinema, holidays, just sitting in a cafe etc.
Yet now we will be arrested for sitting on a park bench, schools are still barred and some terrified people don’t leave their home at all.
Where’s the outrage?

399862 ▶▶ ituex, replying to danny, 5, #162 of 1279 🔗

There’s been the odd small article saying the R rate isn’t really that important it’s all about ‘case numbers’ positive tests or whatever.

399896 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to ituex, 25, #163 of 1279 🔗

And yet when the R(ubbish) rate was high, it was totally,wholly,utterly, entirely, absolutely crucial.

400126 ▶▶▶▶ mariehelene, replying to Annie, 9, #164 of 1279 🔗

Hi Annie! I wish I had you as a friend so we can curse and moan and philosophise together! Here, in my bit of country, the sheep are in force and all my friends have been brainwashed! Yesterday I saw some friends outside by chance, who actually said: we could go for a walk but in pairs!!! I thought they used to have a brain! I despair and I have no one here on my page!

400608 ▶▶▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to mariehelene, 3, #165 of 1279 🔗

We have the same problem. So many brainwashed sheep we’ve not been bothering with anyone really. We have literally one sane couple in town that we’re friends with that we meet for dinner every few weeks. Everyone else is either a complete Covid sheep or lives over an hour away and we’ve not had the energy.

399916 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to ituex, 33, #166 of 1279 🔗

They switch effortlessly between cases, deaths, hospitalisations, infections, R0, modelled figures, actual figures, fictitious figures. Whichever is the highest at the time gets the top billing.

399863 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to danny, 31, #167 of 1279 🔗

The R rate may be down but the head up your R’s rate is running at an all time high, lead by wittering witty concerned about people drinking and being sociable.
“Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life.” ~ George Bernard Shaw

399867 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Steve Martindale, 13, #168 of 1279 🔗

As I’ve said before the people going from medical school into Public Health were the ones who never frequented the college bar or behaved like students at all. James Delingpole’s description of Chris Witty at school is accurate I’m sure.

399934 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to ituex, 1, #169 of 1279 🔗

Killjoys and control freaks.

399872 ▶▶▶ Llamasaurus Rex, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #170 of 1279 🔗

The R rate may be down but the head up your R’s rate is running at an all time high


399898 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #171 of 1279 🔗

Maybe Shitty is bogus, concocted from a few fake holograms, like Comrade Ogilvy.

400011 ▶▶ jos, replying to danny, 3, #172 of 1279 🔗

It’s the boiling frog metaphor- the ‘new normal’ as we slowly fade away..

400233 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to danny, 1, #173 of 1279 🔗

forgive me, but I don’t give a fuck about the bloody R rate

400694 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to danny, #174 of 1279 🔗

Fabled is right, R is an invention of modellers

399838 nickbowes, 27, #175 of 1279 🔗

A discredited government advised by the discredited imperial college. Time to get the pitchforks.

399839 TheBigman, replying to TheBigman, 60, #176 of 1279 🔗

The state taking more health care practices into its own hands should worry everyone.

Why fluoridate the water? You aren’t meant to consume fluoride ffs! Something isn’t right about that. Especially mixed with experimental vaccines.

Does no one else see this as a worrying sign?

They will also tackle obesity? Oh really, how?

Seriously if you think we live in a free country you are very wrong.

This is also the problem with socialised healthcare. This isn’t about patient care its about tightening control, slowly everything will move towards one state.

As much as it will annoy some people in these comments to say…but this is communism. The kind that gives an illusion of choice but all the cards are held by one player; the state.


399853 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to TheBigman, 11, #177 of 1279 🔗

I know – my mind boggles at the thought of putting fluoride in water. It’s quick and easy enough to read the facts as to whether to do that or no – and then decide it’s a bad idea and not do it for goodness sake. Or have we got some vested interests firm or something somewhere raking in the shekels if they do that – and they are paying for good lobbyists to push their case to earn more money for themselves (whoops…sorreee….silly me…I mean to “improve the health of the public” – yeah right….).

399856 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to TheBigman, 12, #178 of 1279 🔗

I an stunned by the NHS proposals, the very opposite of what I think is needed and the opposite of what I would have thought we would have seen from a Conservative Government. Perhaps they are going to change their name to the Conservative Protection Party, CPC, it would all fit together quite well, all in all this is frightening stuff.

399917 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Steve Martindale, 7, #179 of 1279 🔗

The Mass Medication Party. They are all MMP MPs.

399920 ▶▶ rose, replying to TheBigman, 14, #180 of 1279 🔗

The fluoride announcement is very sinister

399953 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to rose, 8, #181 of 1279 🔗

the inconvenient tooth…

400607 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to rose, 2, #182 of 1279 🔗

Yes. Triggered some very loud alarm bells for me.

399960 ▶▶ Puddleglum, replying to TheBigman, 16, #183 of 1279 🔗

Fluoridation of the water supply is very concerning. Fluoride is soluble so it can’t be filtered out and if you boil the water you just end up concentrating it. It has an effect on the brain so in order to really avoid it you either need an expensive reverse osmosis system fitted or buy bottled spring water.

What could possibly go wrong?

400619 ▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Puddleglum, 1, #184 of 1279 🔗

Reverse osmosis is actually not that expensive. We had a system installed in the kitchen for under 300$. Filters are about 70/ year. Bottled water was running us 20$ a week.

399964 ▶▶ John001, replying to TheBigman, 11, #185 of 1279 🔗

Nothing to do with socialised medicine. The USA is the most fluoridated country in the world. Mainland Europe doesn’t do it.

Birmingham has been fluoridated a long time. >30 years ago, I helped with a campaign against water fluoridation in the E Midlands, which is supplied by Anglian Water. We discovered that unfluoridated East Anglia had lower dental decay levels than B’ham. Also Anglian Water was rather concerned about being sued if it added something unnecessary to the tap water.

400044 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to John001, 10, #186 of 1279 🔗

John thank you for being involved. Fluoridation should never happen

More than 400 animal and human studies have in fact found fluoride is neurotoxic and damages the brain , and have been published in some of the most prestigious peer-reviewed journals.


400057 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to TheBigman, 5, #187 of 1279 🔗

Great post!!

The Fluoride Action network (FAN) in the US has been fighting water fluoridation for years – last June a court case

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency also does not have any safety data on fluoride intake and its effects on the brain. During the fluoride trial against the EPA, which took place in June 2020, Michael Connett, an attorney for the Fluoride Action Network (FAN) who is leading the lawsuit, asked the EPA to identify all studies that demonstrate or support the neurological safety of prenatal fluoride exposure .

They produced a single study from 1995, in which the neurotoxicity of sodium fluoride was assessed in rats. Ironically, this study actually shows that neonatal fluoride exposure is neurotoxic, and EPA scientists confirmed that this was indeed the case.

The Fight Against Water Fluoridation Continues

Hopefully, FAN’s legal action against the EPA will result in the elimination of fluoride from U.S. water supplies. We still have a ways to go though. As it stands, the judge in the case has asked FAN to allow the EPA to reassess the evidence before he makes a ruling.

Clean pure water is a prerequisite to optimal health. Industrial chemicals, drugs and other toxic additives really have no place in our water supplies.


400066 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to TheBigman, 3, #188 of 1279 🔗

Internet Resources Where You Can Learn More about the dangers of Water Fluoridation
I encourage you to visit the website of the Fluoride Action Network and visit the links below:

  • 10 Facts About Fluoride : Attorney Michael Connett summarizes 10 basic facts about fluoride that should be considered in any discussion about whether to fluoridate water. Also see 10 Facts Handout (PDF).
  • 50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation : Learn why fluoridation is a bad medical practice that is unnecessary and ineffective. Download PDF .
  • Moms2B Avoid Fluoride : Help spread the word to expecting parents to avoid fluoride during pregnancy due to potential harm to the fetus.
400300 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to TheBigman, 6, #189 of 1279 🔗

The major beneficiaries of the coronavirus responses are the billionaires. Since March they have seen their wealth increase by trillions of dollars, whilst ordinary people have been stripped of the same amount. This transfer of wealth is the exact opposite of communism.

400616 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to TheBigman, 3, #190 of 1279 🔗

The „free healthcare“ thing, anyway. I remember Charlie Gard a few years ago. Ok so his situation was unlikely to be helped, but what right does the NHS have to say you can’t take your own kid to another country for experimental treatment USING MONEY YOU RAISED YOURSELF??? They weren’t asking the NHS to pay for it. FREE means CONTROL

399841 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 22, #191 of 1279 🔗

People often speculate on the reasons for the closures of public spaces, particularly social meeting hubs like pubs & cafes & social distancing etc.

Could this be why? State of society – how we got here – WHAT CAN WE DO? towards the end Denis Rancourt, offers the explanation. Which is of course to prevent organisation & dissent against the empire builders (globalists) working in groups not only makes it harder for them to control but gives us more confidence.

399904 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Anti_socialist, 11, #192 of 1279 🔗

And allows the Deep State to steal elections. Mail in ballots etc. Databases flipping votes in their millions to get the answer they want.

400028 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to FerdIII, 3, #193 of 1279 🔗

I stopped having faith in “ free & fair ” elections decades ago.

399843 danny, replying to danny, 37, #194 of 1279 🔗

Two bus billboards yesterday that’s summed up the lunacy.
First was the “act like you have it” NHS one.
Next to it, was an advert for the Samaritans and their suicide helpline.
No connection there?

399865 ▶▶ ituex, replying to danny, 8, #195 of 1279 🔗

In the Telegraph yesterday there was a description of the quarantine hotel rooms. In the list of contents was ‘Samaritans contact details’.

400907 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to ituex, 2, #196 of 1279 🔗

Who knew that the hotels would be like Beachy Head? “Last chance to not top yourself!”

400167 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to danny, 3, #197 of 1279 🔗

Now remembering an activists summer school that included influencing the media many years back now – and one of the things we were taught was that when a newspaper didn’t dare tell the truth about something they would sometimes deliberately put a suitable (unrelated of course – not…..) article right beside it, so that people would look across and draw their own conclusions. But the newspaper was in the clear and couldn’t be sued for libel or in any way punished for what they had just said – by that juxtaposition of articles. Crafty.

399845 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 6, #198 of 1279 🔗

Time to reissue “A pub with no beer” by Slim Dusty.
Ask your grandparents or even your great grandparents.

399851 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Fingerache Philip, 17, #199 of 1279 🔗

If nothing else my home brewing and wine making skills have improved as a result of lockdown, you can ban alcohol but you cannot ban yeast – no more than you can eradicate SARS-Cov2 … but that’s another story!

399939 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #200 of 1279 🔗

I guess a hip flask will become the must have accessory

400039 ▶▶ stevie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 5, #201 of 1279 🔗

Well it’s lonesome away from your kindred and all
By the camp fire at night
Where the wild dingos call
But there’s nothin’ so lonesome
Morbid or drear
Than to stand in the bar of a pub with no beer

400287 ▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to Fingerache Philip, 2, #202 of 1279 🔗

I have this on7″ record. It belonged to my parents. Loved it as a child because it had the word “bum” in the lyrics

399847 Will, 21, #203 of 1279 🔗

The piece by the hospice nurse is one of the most sensible and humane things I have ever read.

399854 Norman, replying to Norman, 51, #204 of 1279 🔗

A friend who is taking part in the ONS study was alarmed when he was told that one of his samples had shown positive. Since he hadn’t been out of his house apart from the occasional stroll he didn’t see how he could have picked up an infection.
He decided to have a further test a day later (which was permitted under government rules) and unsurprisingly it turned out negative. On contacting T&T he was told he still had to isolate and he got rather cross. The tracers were adamant, he had to remain isolated “to be on the safe side”!
When he asked what clinical skills the decision makers had he was told they had none and it was government rules.
It is good to see the science being followed so closely.

399858 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Norman, 43, #205 of 1279 🔗

For what it’s worth my advice to your friend is do not engage with the dictatorship at any level and in any circumstances

399874 ▶▶▶ Llamasaurus Rex, replying to Cecil B, 13, #206 of 1279 🔗

Agreed. It’s indeed a dictatorship, and engagement will only bring trouble. The kind of engagement that the SOE executed with The Reich may yet come to pass in the New West – but who will ever emerge as the New Allies in this awful New World?

400074 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Norman, 5, #207 of 1279 🔗

Thanks for feedback.

Hopefully he has now learned a lesson – so stupid to take part in any of these studies because the chances of having to isolate is very high.

400909 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Norman, 3, #208 of 1279 🔗

Only when it suits them. When the WHO said lockdowns were a last resort it was somehow ignored by many governments, who treated it like locking down was Standard Operating Procedure.

399859 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 21, #209 of 1279 🔗

Update from the only serious zero covid country and trying to stay that way


A new case in the community,this one in Hamilton.Luckily for NZ this was an ex Pullham Hotel Isolation person,who together with all others released from that hotel has self isolated in the home in Hamilton, (as all olther ex-Pulham persons due to community cases.orignating from Pullham Hotel).
This just shows the tremendous difficulties,if you are serious of zerocovid.All these now 5 community cses have all been in quarantaine for 14 days at Pulham hotel and all had 2 neg and released.
Then they developed symtoms in some cases after being released. They have had a stroke of luck as no further spread arund them(article above)
Why does this happen? Two neg tests,could it still be false neg? Or could it be possible with silent non detectable carriage of the virus and then expresssing itself due to unknown climatological reason? This has been discussed about the Antartic outbreak of common cold and also discussed with the South Americn sailors 4 weeks in the pacific and outbreak.This was also part of Hope Simpson speculation of sudden outbreak of influenza in several different localities on the same latitude.
How can anyone think that UK can imitate NZ? They have at least seriously tried and geographical isolation.UK with isolation hotels and everyday thousands of truckers from Portugal,Roamania etc entering with our food un hindered? The whole UK hotel scheme is madness.

399882 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to swedenborg, 1, #210 of 1279 🔗

The sailors story is interesting, ‘comfort boat’ with AIS switched off making the rounds of the fishing fleet? Narco subs? Lots of lonely ocean out there.

399883 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to swedenborg, 8, #211 of 1279 🔗

Agreed the talk of ‘zero covid’ is arrogant, naive and ill-considered, having worked in Agriculture and Horticulture and now in wildlife conservation one thing it has taught me is that we only know a small part of what is going on, we cannot control nature but we can work with it. It amazes me that so many people seem to think that by virtue of our actions SARS-Cov2 is going to disappear! maybe it will? maybe it wont? we need to be humble it is not totally within our control.
The upper atmosphere is full of viruses and all sorts of stuff; they come and go, to my mind respiratory viruses are like Ruby Tuesday;

She would never say where she came from
Yesterday don’t matter if it’s gone
While the sun is bright
Or in the darkest night
No one knows
She comes and goes

399932 ▶▶ Polonium1806, replying to swedenborg, 6, #212 of 1279 🔗

I somehow have a feeling that when the winter comes NZ and Aus will have surge of cases anyway, which will be of course clear sign that isolation works as intended.

399937 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to swedenborg, 4, #213 of 1279 🔗

They will just change the test protocol when it becomes politically expedient

400070 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to swedenborg, 1, #214 of 1279 🔗

I also think they have to be like their Asian neighbours. A large degree of pre existing immunity. But because rtheyve gone zero Covid early, they’ll never know and everything looks like a success. It’s a bind alright

399861 alw, replying to alw, 2, #215 of 1279 🔗

Twitter strikes again. Mike Yeadon’s account seems to have disappeared. Can anyone shed any light?

399870 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to alw, #216 of 1279 🔗

Some one deleted it!

399878 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #217 of 1279 🔗

Is he now being held in one of the airport prisons?

399907 ▶▶ jos, replying to alw, 2, #218 of 1279 🔗

Well they can’t have us reading anything that’s actually true, can they?

399993 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to alw, 3, #219 of 1279 🔗

He is apparently accused of expressing the wrong ideas. George Monibot has been particularly vocal in attacking Yeadon on the virus, but has in the past few days switched to accusing him of racism. https://twitter.com/georgemonbiot?lang=en

400035 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Steve Hayes, 3, #220 of 1279 🔗

Far right extremist is the go to slur

400918 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to jonathan Palmer, #221 of 1279 🔗

A Morning Star article today by Kevin Ovenden complains of “outright fascist forces” in the Netherlands behind lockdown protests putting themselves “at the centre of popular frustration”. He doesn’t bother to ask how the left cannot do that – but then again frantic love of lockdown is not going to bring the masses out.

400155 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #222 of 1279 🔗

I don’t mind betting I could find russophobic tweets by Monbiot but that wouldn’t count as racist, would it?

399893 ▶▶ Steeve, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #224 of 1279 🔗

Thanks! – will finish listening later

399884 jos, replying to jos, 16, #225 of 1279 🔗

Re fluoride in water / no alcohol pubs – someone is trying to ensure that we vote the Tories out but, and I never thought I’d say this, the opposition is worse .. we’d never leave lockdown. All election votes will be rigged anyway just as they were in 2019 in the UK and 2020 in the US: democracy is dead. But hope isn’t. The people doing this to us are pathetic pantomime villains and have lost their souls (just look in the eyes of the perpetrators). I’d recommend – as with all bullies – simply to ignore them.

399912 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to jos, 5, #226 of 1279 🔗

It does appear that if the Tories aren’t going to dislodge Pfeffel, then Labour need to budge KS. Something needs to give.

400083 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to jos, 3, #227 of 1279 🔗

Fluoride in water will make us sick – more vaccinations can then be forcefully injected into the public.

The poor will lose out health wise as the millionaires and MPs will be the only ones being able to afford whole house water filtration systems – maybe even put it through expenses

400206 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Victoria, 3, #228 of 1279 🔗

Yes is this their next tack to get rid of us? I can’t understand why tooth decay is suddenly an issue. I smell a rat!

399885 Scotty87, replying to Scotty87, 25, #229 of 1279 🔗

Front page of today’s Mirror. “A ray of sunlight” – vaccine passports.

This is how they start to condition the masses to surrender their bodily freedoms.

399924 ▶▶ Vir Cotto, replying to Scotty87, 24, #230 of 1279 🔗

Yeah this is pretty obvious – it has been STICK STICK STICK for the entirety of December and January. Now that case numbers are coming down (as they would with or without measures), the CARROT comes out. So predictable. They all did this last year too, people shouting from the hills “Get everyone back to work!” while those same folk in the next breath as the cases went up “We must shut everything and protect the NHS!”

Do not trust ANY of these people ever again! Not the BBC, not ITV, and ESPECIALLY not the papers.

399929 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Scotty87, 4, #231 of 1279 🔗

what happens if you take the Astrazeneca vaccine get a vaccine passport and then find several European nations refuse entry?

399976 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Scotty87, 4, #232 of 1279 🔗

Yep although at first I saw it as good news…..£9 off in Iceland…wow

400203 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Scotty87, 1, #233 of 1279 🔗

We definitely don’t want these

400242 ▶▶ Alex, replying to Scotty87, 2, #234 of 1279 🔗

I would be more than happy never to go abroad again, if it means that I don’t have to have that untested shit put into my body…

399886 mikec, 8, #235 of 1279 🔗

Well, that’s the NHS finished off if the Govt get involved. Perhaps we can ‘build it back better?’ I’ll not hold my breath.

399887 Liberty, 24, #236 of 1279 🔗

Underground Pubs

You’re telling us no booze in pubs,
We’ll open up speakeasy clubs,
We’ll take our drinking underground,
Where we can freely spend our pounds.

These clubs would not just sell us booze,
They’d bring us life where we could choose,
Choose to ditch these horrid masks,
Choose to ignore what Boris asks.

They’d be places where communities,
Would rediscover unity,
We’d talk just like we do on here,
Chatting o’er a pint of beer.

We’d soon sort out this awful mess,
Save this nation from distress,
If we could meet a share share a drink,
We’d soon find out what other’s think.

Maybe that is what they fear,
Maybe that’s why it’s ‘no beer’,
For booze would loosen up our tongues,
The government’s power would soon be gone.


399888 Paulus, 6, #237 of 1279 🔗

Posted by Ivor Cummins – reality posing as satire and worth a watch


399889 Poppy, replying to Poppy, 128, #238 of 1279 🔗

Johnson wants to avoid another lockdown at all costs… so he keeps us indefinitely in lockdown. You can’t make this up. There is just no urgency whatsoever to lifting what was always meant to be a ‘nuclear’, last-resort option of very short duration. Surely this massive moving of the goalposts cannot be beyond the general population now. Every day that we are locked inside, that businesses are shuttered, that children are denied an education and socialisation, that we are kept away from loved ones, that we are denied medical care, is another day which will eventually become irreversible damage. Why on EARTH is our government not railing against the SAGE cabal and chomping at the bit to end these deeply destructive measures?

Note also how the politicians are promising us a ‘glorious summer’ – and then what? Back in lockdown to ‘save’ the administrative failure that is the NHS from its usual winter pressures? Why can’t we have ‘glorious freedom’ for the rest of our lives? Stop throwing us bones and then snatching them away from us. It’s psychological torture wreaked en-masse across the entire population. It is deeply inhumane. We should not have to barter and beg for our own freedom and it should absolutely never be conditional upon being coerced to take an emergency, experimental medical treatment. Plus the banning of alcohol in pubs just reeks of control-freakery and medico-fascism. It is a public health quango’s wet dream to have top-down control of every aspect of the public’s health and now they have it, they are not letting go without a fight.

I am convinced that there is a lot of anger bubbling under the surface that is not being unleashed because there’s no outlet for it. I start a new job in September and I have recently been added to a ‘group chat’ of other people starting at the same time as me, as well as some current trainees. The current ones have been working from home for almost a year now and their first comment was how bored they are and how unproductive it is having to sit in front of a screen all day with little variation or respite. I’m not surprised. I get a definite impression of apathy but I don’t think it is borne from not caring about what’s going on. Rather, I think a lot of people want things to change and are utterly fed up (and some are very angry) but they feel totally powerless to change anything. The people that are doing this to us are completely unaccountable – we can’t exactly boot Whitty or Vallance out of office after 5 years. I also think it’s a cultural thing: Brits don’t make a fuss, stiff upper lip, etc. I am half-Italian so I definitely have that fiery continental passion, and I feel more Italian than British most of the time.

Once restrictions are lifted for a long enough period, people will begin to realise this has been a very disproportionate and damaging overreaction, as they did in the summer, which is why the government clamped down so hard again come autumn/winter. Can’t have people gathering and exchanging notes on this mess, now can we?

The government are terrified of us and they know that one little slip will lead to the house falling in on them – hence the increasingly bizarre and nonsensical measures as they try desperately to hurl any shit at the wall and hope it sticks.

399894 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Poppy, 24, #239 of 1279 🔗

I think they can already hear some ominous creaking noises.

400193 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Annie, 2, #240 of 1279 🔗

Let’s hope so

399897 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Poppy, 1, #241 of 1279 🔗

last-resort option of very short duration

I’d question that assertion.

399901 ▶▶▶ Poppy, replying to Anti_socialist, 47, #242 of 1279 🔗

Why? We were told back in March by Whitty that any lockdown would have to be very short-term, because compliance would evaporate if it went on forever. This is exactly what has happened. Johnson also described lockdown as the ‘nuclear’ option back in the summer.

It seems that the politicians and their advisors are saying one thing but then acting like lockdown is the only tool they have in their rotten box.

399943 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Poppy, 36, #243 of 1279 🔗

I’d question it was ever the last resort!


That it was ever an ad-hoc plan.

Frankly from day one its smelt like & felt like a psyop. You may call me a conspiracy theorist, but the jury is in, the conspiracy facts are evident. This is bigger than fraud, bigger than a virus, bigger than climate change, its geo-political, empire building (globalism)!

Lockdowns are here to stay (its not about a virus) democracy is dead our serfdom firmly established. You only need look at what’s happening in the US now for proof, they have nothing but contempt for us & think we are infants & sadly, many are acting like children in denial of in their face facts. The complicit middle classes will be the biggest losers in this power grab.

399967 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #244 of 1279 🔗

This is what’s in charge of the planet! (so they would have us believe) WATCH Joe DETERIORATE in real time. Mumbling, Fumbling Through Presser, How did this man pass a medical fit to do this job?
You really think he’s in charge?

400004 ▶▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Anti_socialist, 8, #245 of 1279 🔗

absolutely. this is World War III. WWIII by stealth.

399945 ▶▶▶▶ Polonium1806, replying to Poppy, 10, #246 of 1279 🔗

He also said it’s inhumane and lockdown next day. Does anyone remember,, most infections happen at home,, thing? Is it not like, we can say wateva, no one cares?

399899 ▶▶ Will, replying to Poppy, 51, #247 of 1279 🔗

The government is using coercive control over the population. The good cop/ bad cop routine is an element of that. The absurdity of this “lockdown”, which I suspect might be worrying the government as much as anything else, is that no one is observing it, everyone knows no one is observing it and the government knows that everyone knows that no one is observing it yet the virus is disappearing. So lockdown isn’t controlling the virus and even a lockdown zealot like Clarke is starting to question the efficacy of vaccines which leaves the nightmare scenario, politically, that herd immunity has been reached and the lockdowns were a complete waste of time.

399931 ▶▶▶ WasSteph, replying to Will, 18, #248 of 1279 🔗

True to an extent but I know people who are following the rules and are too scared to do otherwise. Also people on a prolonged paid holiday are in no hurry for this to end.

399938 ▶▶▶▶ Will, replying to WasSteph, 8, #249 of 1279 🔗

I think Poppy’s point about people being tired of working from home is apposite.

400380 ▶▶▶▶▶ james007, replying to Will, 12, #250 of 1279 🔗

I am convinced there has been a productivity fall as a result of permanent working from home. People work more in silos, creativity is reduced without spontaneous and ad-hoc conversations. Some people seem to do ok,but I didn’t
I am lucky 2 weeks ago I started a job which cannot be done from home. I see and work with real people rather than videos on a screen.

399946 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Will, 23, #251 of 1279 🔗

The budget is going to be interesting in March.They can’t hide the economic carnage they have caused.We are facing Great Depression levels of unemployment and the level of government debt is horrendous.We face a financial reset whatever happens…

400095 ▶▶▶▶ Will, replying to jonathan Palmer, 2, #252 of 1279 🔗

I think economic carnage was, sort of, anticipated anyway because of Brexit. As it happens Brexit has been unbelievably trouble free, aside from a few Jaffas grumbling in the north of Ireland.

399984 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Will, 11, #253 of 1279 🔗

What some German politicians stated to the sole critical journalist there, Boris Reitschuster: “We now fear the virus stops delivering.”

400098 ▶▶▶▶ Will, replying to JayBee, 6, #254 of 1279 🔗

And it isn’t just the politicians, it is the scientists as well who have pursued this narrative to the complete exclusion of dissent, indeed the vilification of dissent. I said early on that Imperial will end up having to change its name, such will be the fallout when this goes bang. I also think the Conservative party will cease to exist.

400872 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Will, 1, #255 of 1279 🔗

But Labour have messed up big time and effectively thrown themselves under the Covid bus.

399919 ▶▶ richmond, replying to Poppy, 8, #256 of 1279 🔗

Historically t he British have a stiff upper lip and just put up with things in a stoical way. But the English don’t. Nor do the Scots, the Welsh or the Irish.

399983 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Poppy, 26, #257 of 1279 🔗

Agree with what you said Poppy. I suspect the government knows the day of reckoning is at hand hence why we had Lockdown 3.

However do they not realise that the longer the clampdown the more violent the push back will be?

We’ve seen it in places like the Netherlands and Denmark – countries that no-one in a million years would think would push back so violently. People can only take in so much and once they’ve backed into a corner, the response will be violent.

I’ve long predicted that the only way this will end will be through violence. I still stand by that.

399995 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #258 of 1279 🔗

violence? which side has the tanks, guns, and weapons? certainly not ours

400547 ▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #259 of 1279 🔗

The pigs have been doing loads of riot training

400877 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #260 of 1279 🔗

You don’t need tanks and guns to cause massive damage.

400545 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #261 of 1279 🔗

Bring it on

400157 ▶▶ Alethea, replying to Poppy, 2, #262 of 1279 🔗

Good morning Poppy. Thanks for your excellent, eloquent post.

400281 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Poppy, 14, #263 of 1279 🔗

But where are we Poppy? We have been in lockdown since the end of summer. Sure they called them tiers but they were still taking away my right to live my life fully. We Think we can open up in May! WHAT! That means we will have been locked down for about six months! Can you hear the cries of anguish, can you hear the heated debate? Can you see the demonstrations about the loss of liberty. Can you see the mums and children protesting about schools bring closed and their children’s mental health. Can you see businesses saying stuff it I need to open?
No, neither can I. Thousands of remainers and brexiteers gathered to protest against a supposed loss of sovereignty and freedom. But when they get a true loss of democracy and freedom nothing happens. If you could find the answer to this question, I think we may have a better understanding. I am totally confused I thought this would be all over by now because we just would not stand it. Shows you how powerful the MSM is when it totally supports the government. Of course we also know that when they are no longer getting the clicks and advertising revenue from the government they will turn and destroy their old paymasters. Its the British way, create a bigger hero because the downfall will have more views. Can’t wait!

400384 ▶▶ RoseE, replying to Poppy, 4, #264 of 1279 🔗

‘We should not have to barter and beg for our own freedom’

400882 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to RoseE, #265 of 1279 🔗

Begging and bartering won’t work, that would be seen as weekness. We will have to fight or we are going no where.

400566 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Poppy, 12, #266 of 1279 🔗

All well said and written and spot on regarding the stiff upper lip of the Brits, who are having a real hard time getting their heads around that their government is officially abusing them, as proper narcissistic psychopaths do.

My OH – who may soon not be my OH anymore – however, is one of those people who firmly believes that everyone including the government hates these measures and they simply are between a rock and a hard place…he has real compassion for the tough decisions the government has to make. Nothing, and no fact to the contrary will penetrate his mind. In fact, whatever I say, however low my jaw drops that he cannot see what’s going on, the more I get bashed as a nutter who sees this as the world being evil etc etc.

How can you penetrate minds like that? In his mind it is perfectly feasible that yes “we will be locked in again next winter for 6 months because this pandemic is just real tough”. What’s left to say…? Here I am calling on people to RISE up to take their freedom back because otherwise it won’t come back and your own loved ones are branding you a Covid conspiracy nutter. Hopeless beyond words.

400610 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Pebbles, 2, #267 of 1279 🔗

What else to say? How about ‘its over pal’!

400890 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Pebbles, #268 of 1279 🔗

“My OH – who may soon not be my OH anymore”

What are you waiting for?

400647 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Poppy, 4, #269 of 1279 🔗

Poppy, I want to agree with you…but:

1) It is unclear that restrictions ever will be lifted, precisely in order to prevent the realisation that you predict. This is for ever, but packaged up a few months and a new variant at a time.

2) Yes, people are angry. And yes, among many younger people their anger is correctly directed (for now, at least. Steps may be taken to change that if it becomes dangerous). But the regime is working hard and to some effect to direct that anger away from itself. Hence Hancock’s apparently quite effective campaign to scapegoat the disabled, along with a small number of conscientious objectors, who do not wear the vile mask.

The fact is that I just can’t see what will end this. The regime is now openly post-democratic. We have insufficient leverage to change the political calculus, no matter how obvious it becomes to a fair-minded observer that we are right. I see no external pressure. Even those nightmare scenarios that people are half hoping for, such as uncontrolled economic collapse, would function only as an excuse for the regime to grab even more power.

400657 ▶▶ Rowan, replying to Poppy, 5, #270 of 1279 🔗

One small point, there are it seems still people who think that the government is a prisoner of SAGE, but no, that is not how it works. SAGE is only there to provide cover for the government’s insane policies. If SAGE members don’t do as the government wants, they wil get the old heave ho and their future careers would go up in smoke. Why people still want to give Johnson’s utterly corrupt government an easy ride is way beyond bewildering.

399891 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 10, #271 of 1279 🔗

When the government introduced internment without trial in Northern Ireland even they didn’t have the brass neck to charge the inmates

How to introduce internment by stealth? Say it’s for travelers, say they are hotels not prisons and keep repeating the word quarantine

Once the scheme is up and running it’s easy enough to repurpose the internment camps to house dissidents and ‘vaccine’ refusers

‘Yes we would have liked to set you free in May but we can’t because of the vaccine refusers. What to do with them?’

A bent YouGov poll to show that people support the use of ‘luxury hotels’ for dissidents and Bobs your uncle

At an annual cost of about £30,000 most dissidents would be financially ruined or cave in and have the ‘vaccine’

Note the internment camps will be strategically placed with easy access from the whole country

Why for example is Aberdeen getting a camp? How many people fly from Africa or South America to Aberdeen?

399892 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Cecil B, 4, #272 of 1279 🔗

People arrive in Aberdeen by ferry from Covid hotbeds and sinks of depravity such as Shetland, Orkney and even – horror of horrors – Fair Isle.

399906 ▶▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Annie, 2, #273 of 1279 🔗

Also, off shore rig workers

400923 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Annie, #274 of 1279 🔗

Some of the Spanish Armada sailors ended up on Fair Isle. About 40 of them died there. And they were luckier than some who were shipwrecked in Ireland and butchered, either by locals or by English soldiers.

399979 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Cecil B, 1, #275 of 1279 🔗

Last year the Supreme Court found that internet without trial in Northern Ireland had been unlawful.

400291 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Anti_socialist, #277 of 1279 🔗

Is it called Hal? I wonder who is paying for that. “Good morning Dave!”

399903 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 12, #278 of 1279 🔗

Good link ATL on the Climate Fascism and Climate Lockdowns. Been saying this for a while. The Covidiot Cult is preparatory for the Green Fascist Reset, which will include LDs. The 2 cults – Co2-tards and the Covid-tards overlap perfectly. Once gov’t can take away your freedom over a flu using ‘science’ (fiction) nothing stops them using the same ‘logic’ (anti-reality) to get you to follow their ‘moral plans’ (immoral).


400009 ▶▶ Alex B, replying to FerdIII, 9, #279 of 1279 🔗

When I first learned that the response to SARS-cov-2 was being informed by ‘models’, (seems like an eternity ago now), I just thought to myself: the narrative for this is going to play out just as it has for global warming.
Anyone expressing doubts or scepticism about the response to the ‘pandemic’ will be labelled ‘deniers’ (didn’t take long for that to happen); there will be ad hominen attacks on the credibility of even the most eminent no matter how well reasoned their scepticism is; those who raise reasonable doubts about the possible safety or need for vaccines will be ‘anti-vaxxers’; the MSN will be ‘on side’ so that the few who speak out will be like lone wolves howling in the wilderness, or pissing in the wind.
Those who have the temerity to suggest that their might be another way, will be regarded as dangerous cranks.
I am therefore not remotely surprised by the report from Spectator US.
The Speaker of the House of Commons, Lindsay Hoyle, is very excited by the prospect of using things like lockdowns to save the planet:
Given Boris’ newly discovered love for everything ‘green’ (Gove too), and what we have been living through for nearly a year now, and how the public appears willing to sacrifice pretty much all of their liberties, nothing would surprise me.

400168 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Alex B, #280 of 1279 🔗

Come back Bercow – all is forgiven.

399908 Vir Cotto, replying to Vir Cotto, 14, #281 of 1279 🔗

LBC this morning seems a bit different.Lots of common sense being brought up for a change. Still lots of talk about vaccines, but the experts calling in seem to be playing down the hysteria and saying things like concern over variants is unwarranted due to cross-reactive immunity, herd immunity appearing in India without a vaccine, lockdown impacts are now too much to ignore, quarantine hotels are not a good idea, etc.

Small things perhaps, but could there be a slight shift going on?

400075 ▶▶ davews, replying to Vir Cotto, 1, #282 of 1279 🔗

Might have a listen later. I used to enjoy LBC a year ago, now Talk Radio is sadly going the same way. Weekends on TR tends to be pretty boring anyway so time to look elsewhere.

399915 Tim Bidie, replying to Tim Bidie, 6, #283 of 1279 🔗

Message to India, could Jain please come over here and take over as Chief Medical Officer? The pay is good!

‘For Jain, the doctor in Delhi, the change can be measured in other ways, too. Not so long ago, people were afraid even to set foot in Rajiv Gandhi Super Specialty Hospital, the place where he works. Now they’re coming in and “sitting and talking to each other,” he said.

Jain worries about a possible resurgence of cases such as the one Europe experienced. But he also allows himself a measure of hope. “I’m a bit optimistic that this disease is over,” he said.’


Or Ghose?

‘He thinks that urban India is unlikely to see a second wave like the one in Europe, as long as existing antibodies offer some protection against new variants of the virus.’

Our mortality is relatively low in India and that, in the end, is saving the day,” said Aurnab Ghose, a biologist at the Indian Institute of Science Education and Research. Understanding why will require much more research, he said, and the answers probably will not emerge for “years to come.”

But we know the answers already, a combination of: Pre-existing coronavirus immunity, PCR Ct (cycle) thresholds, population age profile (India average age 29, UK 40, USA 38, Italy 46), population density and death registration process.

400136 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Tim Bidie, #284 of 1279 🔗

In terms of absolute numbers India has at least as many older people as either the US or the UK, so the median age thing is not a factor.

The same goes for the immunocompromised.

400188 ▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to rockoman, 1, #285 of 1279 🔗

‘India has recorded 155,000 deaths, or about 112 per 1 million population, compared with 1,362 per million in the U.S. Some of that difference is attributable to covid-19 deaths missing from India’s official figures. But experts think that other factors have helped to reduce India’s death rate, including its predominantly young population. Other researchers speculate that some still-unknown immunological factor is making infections less severe.’

Reference above

There seem to be also climate factors in play.

400191 ▶▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to Tim Bidie, 1, #286 of 1279 🔗

‘A fascinating perspective on the latitudinal differentiation of the epidemic, moving from north to south. Says a lot. Pretty similar mititgation approaches in all these states. Notice how as you go south, the curves get more spread out, similar number of total cases. The pattern in the southern states and the southwest in the summer was like this. Whatever it is about the conditions that favor transmission, it is a fairly narrow niche in the north and a wider one as you go south. If it were solely latitudinal, you would assume that total sunlight intensity is the key.’
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400195 ▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to rockoman, 1, #287 of 1279 🔗

Unlikely also that, in India, there are as many clinically obese per million of population as there are here and in the U.S.

399918 Anti_socialist, 11, #288 of 1279 🔗

And Finally…

Nic Sturge-on’s speeches………by Mao Zhedong

Was painful, I accidentally headbutted my screen because i was laughing so hard, then fell over my dressing gown belt, but it was well worth it.

399921 Bart Simpson, replying to Bart Simpson, 35, #289 of 1279 🔗

Re: headline above.

Anyone who still thinks this is about a virus really needs to bang their heads against a wall 1 million times or have it checked (assuming they can get an appointment to their GP).

Any excuses about not following social distancing are bollocks as is social distancing itself. This is pretty much an assault on a stalwart of our way of life and this crisis has been a wet dream for the middle class do gooders who have been trying like Wile E Coyote to “wean” the lower orders of their “fondness” for alcohol.

Of course there’s also the hypocrisy – they can’t bear to see the ordinary Joe have a pint on his way home but see no problem with their darling Tarquin or Jemima get hammered while at uni because its “experience”.

Let that sink in.

399928 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Bart Simpson, 20, #290 of 1279 🔗

Lockdowns are forever! Is not about “cases”, “R”, “deaths” or “vaccines” – is just about control!

400010 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to TheClone, 3, #291 of 1279 🔗

Until the money they print stops buying anything.
The only rational explanation now is that politicians and Guardianistas actually fully believe in MMT now and that inflation can still be prevented when it’s practiced.
Boy will they be in for a surprise.

399971 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Bart Simpson, 32, #292 of 1279 🔗

While there is an element of public health control the real reason pubs were closed was to stop people meeting and questioning the governments policies.The pub is the main focal point of British social life.
In every village you will find a pub and a church.Remember the pubs were closed before the restaurants because eating out somewhere doesn’t have the same social mixing aspect as drinking.
Pubs with no beer can now join Schools without pupils.Trains and buses without passengers and hospitals outside of ICU without patients.

400307 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to jonathan Palmer, 1, #293 of 1279 🔗

So true JP can’t have the plebs exchanging ideas. Can’t have them realising their radical ideas about the stupidity of masks and lockdowns are actually agreed with! DOH!!

399923 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 6, #294 of 1279 🔗

This is just fucking plain weird.

Daily Mail: Woman transforms herself into the late Captain Sir Tom Moore using only makeup.

399944 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Tom Blackburn, 7, #295 of 1279 🔗

I thought the vaccine had brought him back to life for a minute but no it was some utter nutter paying homage.

399957 ▶▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 9, #296 of 1279 🔗

What a fucking bizarre way to pay homage.

399958 ▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Tom Blackburn, 6, #297 of 1279 🔗

I’ll retire to Bedlam.

399981 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Tom Blackburn, 8, #298 of 1279 🔗

LOL, the covid cult is definitely one of the nuttiest, weirdest cults ever to stalk the planet

400931 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #299 of 1279 🔗

It reminds of Salem in 1692 or whenever it was. That nuttiness did end, however. And so will this.

399986 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Tom Blackburn, 7, #300 of 1279 🔗

lucky for her Captain Tom wasn’t black

400227 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to crimsonpirate, #301 of 1279 🔗

He was more “mahogany”

400027 ▶▶ Matt The Cat, replying to Tom Blackburn, 3, #302 of 1279 🔗

Elton’s made a tribute song – “Blazer In The Bin”.

I’ll get me coat …

399926 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 17, #303 of 1279 🔗

Dragons Den (sometime in the future)

“Thank you for your presentation. So let me get this right. You are asking for investment in a company that sells Nicola Sturgeons speech’s printed on toilet roll?”

“Yes, we do a Matt Hamcock version as well”

“I’m in, I’ll offer you £20m for 1% of the company”

400008 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Cecil B, #304 of 1279 🔗

How do I contact them?

399935 NorthumbrianNomad, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 37, #305 of 1279 🔗

Just been talking to friends in Sweden, whose daughter is studying at university in Stockholm but lives in New York. Oh, so she’s studying on Zoom? I ask, in my naivety. No, she was here all autumn before going back to NY for Christmas, and she’s flying into Stockholm for the new term next week. She just stayed in America a bit longer to finish her master’s thesis.

There really is still a world that has NOT vanished down the rabbit-hole. And its name is still Sweden.

399997 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 7, #306 of 1279 🔗

Many US states look bearable again.

400226 ▶▶▶ Jo, replying to JayBee, 7, #307 of 1279 🔗

I read an article that said that much of America never shut down, even when the rules were in place. It is too big and open to be controlled like here.

400329 ▶▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Jo, 9, #308 of 1279 🔗

Unlike here as Sleepy Joe is finding out, you can’t just tell all the states what to do. They will all do what their governors think they should do. Look at the Jewish community in NYC just ignored one of the harshest lockdowns by that twat Cuomo and just got on with life. Look at Florida, listened to Nobel prize winner Prof Levett and got rid of masks and protected the old folk and opened up. See proper politicians making brave decisions.

400340 ▶▶▶▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to Spikedee1, 3, #309 of 1279 🔗

Biden: I can call the spirits from the vasty deep.

Everyone: Why, so can I, or so can any man;But will they come, when you do call for them?

Shakespeare, Henry IV Part 1

400986 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Jo, 1, #310 of 1279 🔗

Even the UK seems patchy. Mask-wearing seems to be poorly enforced, if at all, in North London, although many shops are closed.

400369 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to JayBee, 1, #311 of 1279 🔗

Daughter at university in Virginia, apart from masks, outside world there is pretty good. Lots of stupid university rules but she’s much freer than here.

399942 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 10, #312 of 1279 🔗

Great Green Fascist Reset. CV 19 LDs were just a test run. If you listen to Doris the Pig King and his Princess Nut Nutty this is what they are describing. Bird choppers running your economy replacing ‘carbon’ energy. All because of ‘science’ in which a trace chemical necessary for life 95% emitted by Earth Mommy is the root of ‘climate’ and weather. The stupid just f***ing baffles.


“Repeating what is a common theme in Great Reset literature, Mazzucato mentioned how governments would coax, or perhaps tell people how to conform to the green economy: “Governments used procurement, grants and loans to stimulate as much innovation as possible.

In reality, the plan appears to dramatically limit finances to only those who totally support the radical green agenda.

Adherence, or not, to green policies, could determine whether an individual or a business is allowed access to finances, according the Great Reset architect, Klaus Schwab: “Governments led by enlightened leaders will make their stimulus packages conditional upon green commitments. They will, for example, provide more generous financial conditions for companies with low-carbon business models.”

400229 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to FerdIII, 5, #313 of 1279 🔗

Well that’s SodaStream screwed then.

399947 Bella Donna, 29, #314 of 1279 🔗

What little patience and understanding has evaporated. If people haven’t realised this has F. A to do with a virus then you need your heads examining. I’ve just sent an email to my MP letting her know my thoughts on this latest nugget of stupidity. Enough is enough!

399949 Stephen Williams, replying to Stephen Williams, 25, #315 of 1279 🔗

I shall be imprisoned in a hotel when I return to the UK after leaving it perfectly legally. See link below. Is anyone else affected and fancy pooling/joining in with a legal action to contest hotel quarantine?

My plan is to demand to be arrested. So far as I know a stay at HMP is free and conditions are better than a Travelodge. Also a sucessful claim for unlawful arrest and imprisonment is about £2,000 a night so you can earn a few quid.

It is only a short step to start locking up lock down sceptics in psychiatric hospitals. Will Toby be top of the list?


399973 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Stephen Williams, 8, #316 of 1279 🔗

I wish you all the best, and really hope you succeed, but the bastards will refuse to put you in prison, they’ll say that you’re a covid risk to the other prisoners, and they’ll force you into their gulag sorry quarantine hotel, and make you pay anyway. I really don’t know how to defeat them. the judiciary are on their side, not ours

399989 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to JaneHarry, 10, #317 of 1279 🔗

You make a good point that the judiciary in this country are on their side. Yet in other countries, e.g. Germany, Poland, the judiciary have stood up for people’s rights.I still can’t get my head around why there is this difference.

400001 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Stephen Williams, 2, #318 of 1279 🔗

Tell them you are suicidal and fake a descent into psychosis.

Evidence of a failed suicide attempt always goes down well, empty pill bottles, snapped rope etc

Hospital is free. Food is better

400005 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 2, #319 of 1279 🔗

I always carry three empty paracetamol bottles around with me for arrests

400989 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Cecil B, 1, #320 of 1279 🔗

Sounds like a plan…

400277 ▶▶▶ Hattie, replying to Cecil B, 2, #321 of 1279 🔗

That will be a excuse for them to haul you off to an asylum, unknown location. In the DT they stated that the security guards would be powerless to stop you leaving but could get the police to find those ‘that escape’.
Fortunately, Qatar is not yet on the list, as I will be returning to Misery Island next week -a glorious month of practical normality, everything open, parks full, tennis courts busy, great meal yesterday in a beach restaurant, no limit on numbers mixing, lots of laughter, people dancing, mingling – just made me realise the extent of their destruction of the normal basic joys of life.

400162 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Stephen Williams, 1, #322 of 1279 🔗

Already happened in April:


“Attorney sent to psychiatry for protesting? Is it that time in Germany again? Urgent public clarification (Letter from lawyer W. Schmitz to the Federal Chamber of Lawyers on April 14, 2020):Dear colleagues,Yesterday evening I found out that the colleague Beate Bahner from Heidelberg, who recently becameknown nationwide through an – ultimately unsuccessful – application for an interim order to the BverfG(federal constitutional court) against restrictions on numerous fundamental freedoms through the”Corona” legal ordinances (see appendices) , apparently was violently taken to psychiatry in Heidelbergon Easter Sunday”

400310 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Stephen Williams, 1, #323 of 1279 🔗

Question. At the end of the quarantine peiod, what are they going to do if you refuse to pay. Keep you imprisoned indefintiely?

No doubt you will be forced to hand over a credit card when marched through the door or your new home, so phone the bank and tell them that one has been stolen and must be stopped. Refuse tosing any contract which says you agree to the charges and if they take you to court for non payment, they have nothing to counter the arguement that you were there against your will.

400366 ▶▶ ituex, replying to Stephen Williams, #324 of 1279 🔗

Make a recording of yourself screaming and play it at the door for a few hours. Call 999. Repeatedly.

400552 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Stephen Williams, 1, #325 of 1279 🔗

Can you ask your local MP to foot the bill for quarantine since he most likely enthusiastically supported it?

400640 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Stephen Williams, #326 of 1279 🔗

Can you fly to an unlisted country not quarantining, get a test there, stay three days and come from there instead? I guess you have already looked in that and it is too expensive maybe.

399950 FerdIII, 13, #327 of 1279 🔗

500 dead in the US from the Vaxx’s. 10.000 injured. That is only what is REPORTED. Maybe 5% of total deaths, injuries are reported?

So what is the real scale of the Vaxx disaster?

Me wonders.

399952 Jo Dominich, replying to Jo Dominich, 30, #328 of 1279 🔗

Personally I don’t give a damn what Whitty thinks about alcohol & SD. Pubs should open with alcohol. They were never hotspots of transmission as the data shows. Rather sounds like Johnson has been brainwashed by him too.

399966 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Jo Dominich, 19, #329 of 1279 🔗

There is a great deal of anti-alcohol enthusiasm in the public health field. So much so that they are not above making stuff up in the hope of reducing alcohol consumption, as shown by the government’s alcohol units recommendations.

400143 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Steve Hayes, 12, #330 of 1279 🔗

Ah in the days when I worked with hospitals there was a common joke: What is the definition of an alcoholic? Someone who drinks more than ur GP.

399980 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Jo Dominich, 4, #331 of 1279 🔗

like you say pubs were never hotspots of transmissions. Coffee shops were more likely to be hotspots as they tend to have a single toilet cubicle -used by customers and non customers.

400036 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to crimsonpirate, 4, #332 of 1279 🔗

I think they also found that coffee shops were no different to pubs in terms of hotspots – both of them had roughly the same low rates.

400176 ▶▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #333 of 1279 🔗

the big difference was T&T was rigidly enforced in pubs, much less so in coffee shops.

400040 ▶▶ alw, replying to Jo Dominich, 6, #334 of 1279 🔗

Whitty doesn’t have a life. His whole demeanour shows that!

400347 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Jo Dominich, 2, #335 of 1279 🔗

Yes let’s listen to the bloke who looks like he has never had sex without paying for it and is not a drinker. Hey Mr science man. Can you like show me some actual scientific evidence to back up what you are saying.
I am fucking sick and tired of probably and possibly and maybe. If you don’t know for definite STFU.

399962 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Tom Blackburn, 2, #337 of 1279 🔗

So Steve Baker would like to see reform of computer modelling, which implies he is content to see public policy continued to be dominated by the mathematical results of Ferguson et al’s assumptions.

399969 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Steve Hayes, 8, #338 of 1279 🔗

reform of computer modelling might be code for ditch ferguson and just use modelling as a very vague guide before the data and actual evidence are available.

400353 ▶▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Major Panic, 1, #339 of 1279 🔗

Yes its such a shame we don’t have a whole years worth of ACTUAL DATA we could look at to compare with our model…… oh wait!

399955 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 13, #340 of 1279 🔗

Ex sister in law of son’s partner (a young woman) who locked herself away for months contracts Covid.
Your’s truly, a 72 year old peasant and proud of it, who apart from wearing a face nappy in shops never sd’s or uses “gloop” (hs), healthy as 100 butcher’s dogs and can’t remember when he last had a cold.
Suppose that it serves me right for not getting tested.

399961 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 2, #341 of 1279 🔗

A d the moral of that is …

399970 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Annie, 19, #342 of 1279 🔗

Ignore the “experts” and live your lives.
Like cancer,dementia, etc, you will either get it or you won’t.
You can’t lockdown against life and death.
PS: Mrs FP has survived thyroid cancer (so far) following 3 operations and radio active treatment at 3 hospitals.
Let people live and enjoy the years left to them.

400171 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Fingerache Philip, 2, #343 of 1279 🔗

“contracts Covid.”

You mean ‘produced a positive PCR’?

399959 Annie, replying to Annie, 9, #344 of 1279 🔗

Just realised why covvidolts like Snowdon are sokeen on denouncing us.
As converts to the Cult, they’ve got to be even more zealous than established zombies.
Departing from the Covvibible is Blasphemy. And if we blaspheme, Covvigod will be angry and smite the entire population with fire, brimstone and a tickly cough.
As Peter Wimsey warns Harriet: if you blaspheme the aspidistra, something terrible will come down the chimney and Get You.

399965 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Annie, 6, #345 of 1279 🔗

when the likes of Snowdon spins 180 with no credible evidence for the change, think; money, threats, compromising photos…

399972 ▶▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to Major Panic, 5, #346 of 1279 🔗

Hodges the same. Even as late as November 2020, he was tweeting sarcastically at people shocked at company closures, “Don’t worry, it’s only Pret” – because earlier in the year, the zealot “full pay wanker” argument was “who cares if a few sandwich shops go bust? Stay home, protect the NHS, save lives!” And Dan was all over them.

399974 ▶▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 9, #347 of 1279 🔗

Don’t worry Dan, it’ll be your tax hike/wealth grab that will pay for their unemployment benefit …

400014 ▶▶▶▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to kh1485, 1, #348 of 1279 🔗

Just found a wonderful thread outlining his rank fucking hypocrisy in much greater detail:


399975 Anti_socialist, 3, #349 of 1279 🔗
399977 Achilles, 20, #350 of 1279 🔗

I see another meaningless “Boris faces a battle with Tory MPs about restrictions” story ATL. There is no revolt. Apart from a few noticeable individuals who have battled against it from the beginning every Tory is fully on board at least with their vote if not with their mind. I don’t want to hear it any more. Every restriction has been fully endorsed by Tory MPs. Toby your party is lost and must take group responsibility for this disaster. They can’t hide behind Johnson and Hancock.

399978 TheClone, replying to TheClone, 10, #351 of 1279 🔗

What is the rationale of banning alcohol in pubs? What is the link between alcohol and the general shitshow?

399994 ▶▶ Silverstar46, replying to TheClone, 27, #352 of 1279 🔗

Because they don’t want people mixing and chatting about subversive things like freedom and choice. They despise normal people, don’t understand them and just want to keep the control they are currently enjoying very much. My contempt for them is beyond words.

400021 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Silverstar46, 5, #353 of 1279 🔗

Don’t need to be in a pub to mix and chat … 😉

400050 ▶▶▶▶ Silverstar46, replying to kh1485, 7, #354 of 1279 🔗

I totally agree but sense would spread more quickly in pubs from my long experience. Sadly not everyone reads LS or other points of view but may watch a game in the pub or meet mates etc and the nonsense of lockdown may well come up as those who lost their job or at risk of losing their home talk about it.

400092 ▶▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Silverstar46, 1, #355 of 1279 🔗

There is an advert at the moment, is it Nationwide building society? Where the workers met in coffeehouses? Really? I am sure this is PC gone mad, they would have met in the Pub!!

400013 ▶▶ l835, replying to TheClone, 20, #356 of 1279 🔗

People will meet all their mates, get drunk, start singing loudly and snogging, then go on a pub crawl round town freely distributing the deadly Heineken variant. Witty knows this is how people behave in pubs because he’s seen it on Eastenders.

400199 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to l835, #357 of 1279 🔗

When they’ve all either had the Rona or had the jab, they will be immune surely? What exactly is the problem?

400060 ▶▶ davews, replying to TheClone, 4, #358 of 1279 🔗

They generalise on the exceptions. I enjoy a pint with my midday meal while on a day out trip. Sitting on my own, no one even to chat to apart from the barmaids, solitary trip on the train home afterwards. But because of a gang of rowdy youths who go on the binge afterwards I am penalised. Oh, I guess I could have some diet coke with my meal instead, that would be much better for my health…

400079 ▶▶ arfurmo, replying to TheClone, 3, #359 of 1279 🔗

Asymptomatic Chris will go to the pub and after 5 pints will become irresistable to women and will therefore spread it to about 20 women as they mob him.

400089 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to TheClone, 1, #360 of 1279 🔗

because they can

399985 FrankiiB, 18, #361 of 1279 🔗

We need an economic crash now

At least, a quick one. People will not come to their senses otherwise. And Boris will never release lockdown – not until he is forced kicking and screaming. I have warned about this before. He will never do it. He will slowly release a few restrictions only to pile on more at the slightest hint of more cases. He is physiologically so effected by it that he is incapable of leading us into anything but a disastrous crash. Tory MPs wont dare to chuck him first. Therefore, in my view, a mini crash now would be better than a big one later. One that makes clear to people they are facing a tax bombshell, and each day of lockdown adds about £100 in extra tax for every single taxpayer, including those teachers, BBC reporters and government ministers who didn’t think that paying for it was anything remotely to do with them.

399987 fiery, replying to fiery, #362 of 1279 🔗

Does anyone know how you can edit a post to correct typos.

399998 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to fiery, 2, #363 of 1279 🔗

You only have a small window to edit!

After clicking post, look to bottom right of your comment, you’ll see a cog like icon, hover & then click edit.

400006 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, #364 of 1279 🔗


400007 ▶▶▶ fiery, replying to Anti_socialist, #365 of 1279 🔗

Thank you.

399999 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to fiery, 1, #366 of 1279 🔗

Yes, click on the little cogwheel to the right, but you only have a few minutes I think.

400029 ▶▶ mj, replying to fiery, 4, #367 of 1279 🔗

you have about 10 minutes to edit. Note however if someone replies to your post within the ten minutes then you cannot edit . This is to stop people going back to change the meaning and content of a post in such a way to make the reply look stupid!

399990 JASA, replying to JASA, 9, #368 of 1279 🔗

Still using that damn photo of Wankcock. I’ve pleaded directly to them, but they still use it.

400563 ▶▶ DomW, replying to JASA, #369 of 1279 🔗

It wouldn’t be so bad if they photoshopped a covering (could be anything, like a Mr Potato Head image) over his entire head.

399991 Major Panic, 5, #370 of 1279 🔗

from the current lockdown, and drop in ‘infections’. ‘cases’, hospitalisations, etc – either;

children and people eating in well spaced out pubs and restaurants (as was in November/December) are the true vectors of transmission and lockdown saved the day,


the current virus (or viruses) has done its thing and are naturally dropping away, as historically happens at this time of year. And are also dwindling away in countries with little/no restrictions

clue – a simple honest compare of the data from the different US states that had restriction with and those that did not – gives the blatantly obvious answer that any halfwit, even a government corrupt scientist can see

399992 The Covid Kid, replying to The Covid Kid, 7, #371 of 1279 🔗

Morning! 🙂

400031 ▶▶ John001, replying to The Covid Kid, 2, #372 of 1279 🔗

Already catered for by Spitting Image!
The face of the Gove puppet looks like and talks b******s.

400000 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 18, #373 of 1279 🔗

Does anyone besides me think that the Chris Whitty abuse video looks staged? Why would a man like Whitty stand in the street on an ultra cold day just taking a load of abuse? It looks to me like the SAGE behavioural tam have been at work.

400012 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Londo Mollari, 5, #374 of 1279 🔗

It’s odd that he had no security. What would have happened if the kid went at him with a pea shooter?

400165 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Ovis, 1, #375 of 1279 🔗

Haha if only

400015 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Londo Mollari, 8, #376 of 1279 🔗

That was my first reaction. It was all too convenient.

400465 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to kh1485, 2, #377 of 1279 🔗

Agree entirely. Staged, false flag, etc.

400016 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Londo Mollari, 6, #378 of 1279 🔗

Yes and he is a terrible actor

400026 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Londo Mollari, 8, #379 of 1279 🔗

Posted on the 4th. The use of a juvenile is interesting as the press will not use his name


Rat smelling

The Pig Dictators cycle around the Olympic Park

Ted’s rugby game in a park amongst all the yummy mummy’s

Whitty’s shirtsleeve food trip…. hey, we even allow dissent

The message; look at us we are not living in bunkers. We can go out without bodyguards. We move freely amongst the people because they love us so much

The Rapist’s Dad’s only outdoor trip was to a village where he posed like Kim from Korea.

What they didn’t tell you was that they had evacuated all the villagers before his arrival (no I’m not making that bit up)

Hail our glorious leaders

400047 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #380 of 1279 🔗

He was queuing for food.

400053 ▶▶ Will, replying to Londo Mollari, 2, #381 of 1279 🔗

My thoughts exactly, wandering about in shirt sleeves in January.

400141 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #382 of 1279 🔗

His reaction seems inappropriate.

400163 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #383 of 1279 🔗

Yes and where was his jacket?

400400 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Janette, 2, #384 of 1279 🔗

The strait one?

400003 Ovis, replying to Ovis, 8, #385 of 1279 🔗

When people in power fuck up, they respond in a very predictable way: they grab more power. For this reason if no other, failure drives centralisation. I think we should look at Hancock’s NHS ‘reform’ in that light.

400042 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Ovis, 4, #386 of 1279 🔗

they grab more power

And never give it back.

400018 The Covid Kid, replying to The Covid Kid, 7, #387 of 1279 🔗

Just reposting this. Funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time! 😂


400022 ▶▶ l835, replying to The Covid Kid, 8, #388 of 1279 🔗

When confronted, why does Whitty put a mask on and stand still??? Any normal person would have ignored the lad and kept walking!

400023 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to The Covid Kid, 7, #389 of 1279 🔗

Look at the state of it, honestly, is that (half) a face you can trust!

400045 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to stefarm, 2, #390 of 1279 🔗

Is that a purple tie and the number 33……..time to for a cup of tea and my Weetabix methinks

400154 ▶▶ Janette, replying to The Covid Kid, 2, #391 of 1279 🔗

Yes it really made me laugh too

400019 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 14, #392 of 1279 🔗


2 pence had this on the previous LS.

Council official (with clip board) and 2 police officers trying in vain to get the customers to leave.

Council official with mask on told women to stand back – she told him that he has got a mask on so he should be safe

The video ended with them leaving and a customer stating very loudly “ The police officers are under oath and are here to protect us and not the Council ” — Enthusiastic clapping

400038 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Victoria, 6, #393 of 1279 🔗

Their oath is to the queen, the police have zero respect for law or human rights, which is demonstrated daily. Who you gonna call when they brake their oath? May as well be the ghost busters for all the good it will do.

400120 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Victoria, 1, #394 of 1279 🔗

Excellent we need lots more of this

400032 stefarm, 4, #395 of 1279 🔗

Pubs with no booze, as always, homer Simpson has the answer


400033 James Leary #KBF, replying to James Leary #KBF, 11, #396 of 1279 🔗

So – in just about 2 weeks, can Boris cobble together some sort of believable plan about where to go next? I’m assuming for the sake of what’s left of my sanity that the Great Reset is a rabbit hole. I’m guessing at what’s next with nothing more than an appreciation of the low animal cunning of a political class that wants to escape this shitshow with their lives intact. Not a given. So how about the civil disobedience around the world gets slowly worse, and closer to home. The borders remain closed to whomsoever they wish (or not, as expedient). The vaccines haven’t been stolen by an even more desperate EU. The numbers are still going down with a bit of help from lateral flow. Then I can see them cutting and running and trying a bigger release sooner, rather than later, beforeMrs White Van Man goes ballistic at not being able to book Magaluf this year. They’re quite good at determining from where the greater threat to their political and actual arses might be coming, and I think that’s shifting. I can’t see any further procrastination being tolerated. If Boris has to go for health reasons with the thanks of a grateful nation 🤣 it’s the King is dead, long live the good King Richie. If, however, they come up with a big new shiny reason for keeping the boot on our throats, then it’s TGR …. and war.

400049 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to James Leary #KBF, 16, #397 of 1279 🔗

The only way out of this is by Revolution. The ballot box doesn’t work, did it ever? You only have to look across the Pond to see how the unscrupulous elite work in the background to get the result they want. Going back to the Referendum when David beat Goliath they have never forgiven us for that and what we are experiencing now is payback. Their jackboot is on our neck!

400407 ▶▶▶ James Leary #KBF, replying to Bella Donna, 2, #398 of 1279 🔗

Yes – there is a genuine school of thought it’s the technocrats actively punishing the proles for their temerity over Brexit

400632 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to James Leary #KBF, #399 of 1279 🔗

The Medical Dictatorship have officially jumped the shark with hotel quarantine and dry pubs. Now 90% of over-75s have supposedly been jabbed people will be expecting to go out for a drink and a fortnight on a sun-drenched Southern European beach. “Cases”, hospitalisations and then deaths will be dropping rapidly this month beyond massaging. The gas is on too high a flame now and the frogs will be starting to jump out of the pan.

400034 alw, replying to alw, 18, #400 of 1279 🔗

NHS chiefs say that changes to allow GPs, hospitals and social care to work together will improve patient care.” LOL!!!

I retired from social care in 2008 and we have been trying to work for many years with the NHS. According to my colleagues with whom I am in regular touch in 2020 Social Care are still struggling with getting cooperation from the NHS. The Department of Heath are the big problem with everyone wanting to shift the financial burden to underfunded Social Care plus jobsworth civil servants. Look what’s happened to the Continuing Care Programme. Very few have been able to get it and then after a Battle Royal. No problem with GPs but they too are stymied by the NHS, Department of Health and NICE. Hancock is not fit for purpose and incapable of thinking outside the box. Has no experience of the real world.

400041 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to alw, 10, #401 of 1279 🔗

Although Johnson did work as a journalist I don’t think he could be credited with knowing about the real world either, not with his background.

400069 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to alw, 4, #402 of 1279 🔗

Absolutely correct in every word. Nothing ever gets done though.

400071 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to alw, 13, #403 of 1279 🔗

The NHS as an institution needs to go. From my experience, they will defend their own systems, cultures and processes to the hilt. Circle the wagons to the detriment of the people that they are meant to serve. I could reel off a hundred stories about our health system that would make your toes curl.

400339 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Tom Blackburn, 3, #404 of 1279 🔗

This was an opportunity to reshape the health provision in the UK away from the ‘our NHS’ religiosity into something properly workable and fundable.

400614 ▶▶ Polemon2, replying to alw, #405 of 1279 🔗

I, too, retired from social care a few years ago. My experiences were just the same as alw.

400037 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 5, #406 of 1279 🔗

Scumbag George Monbiot, seems to be very pleased with his efforts to get Mike Yeadon shoved off twitter. Way to go George – who’s paying you?

Michael Yeadon’s superfans, like @JuliaHB1
, tried to tough it out, by denying that he’d posted multiple racist and revolting tweets. He now appears to have taken a different approach.
https:// twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3


400046 ▶▶ Will, replying to godowneasy, 2, #407 of 1279 🔗

So reassuring to be on the other side of an argument to the dreadful Monbiot.

400043 mj, replying to mj, 13, #409 of 1279 🔗

re the story ATL about the government taking charge of the NHS. This sentence in the report scares me

“Dozens of new management bodies will be given control over billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money.”

So yet more layers of management. I bet none of the existing bloated layers of management will be changed or cut . So more of the NHS budgets goes on admin. And the existing management bodies have been so successful in keeping a tight rein on the budgets.

400064 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to mj, 3, #410 of 1279 🔗

I was thinking the self same thing. The current managers will fill those posts. No change there then.

400048 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 3, #411 of 1279 🔗


Calls to prioritize religious orders in vaccine rollout. What the idiots either don’t understand or won’t admit is that like rent controls not reducing homelessness (it only changes who is homeless), changing the priority order for getting the experimental gene therapy only stops someone else from getting it.

400062 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Ewan Duffy, 1, #412 of 1279 🔗

They probably died of something else.

400051 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 4, #413 of 1279 🔗
400091 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Basileus, 4, #414 of 1279 🔗

Why am I not surprised. Everything that is wrong with this country points back to the stinking corrupt establishment.

400112 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Basileus, 2, #415 of 1279 🔗

Absolutely shocking!

400054 norfolksceptic, replying to norfolksceptic, 36, #416 of 1279 🔗

Morning all – haven’t posted much as been occupied with work but I actually feel quite positive today – not that I think the madness is going to go away without a real fight – but that Johnson et al are being backed into a corner where they are going to have to admit this is forever – I don’t know whether the PCR amplification has been changed or not but the daily doom numbers are only going one way (and they can’t stop publishing them otherwise charade is revealed) and the attempts to find more cases look even more out of proportion – d
Door to door testing of a million people who don’t know they are ill !!

The constant changing of the “vaccine” goals is also very helpful and getting noticed.

The pub story (noting the hare running strategy) has unleashed massively negative comments in the Telegraph today – it is dawning on people that they are going to have to take their freedoms back not be given them.

I don’t for a moment think what’s coming is going to be pleasant but at least we are getting to the point where it is clear to the vast majority. As someone here pointed out – if you understand there has been a coup then the actions make sense – there is going to be no hiding from that in the next few weeks.

400231 ▶▶ Jo, replying to norfolksceptic, 3, #417 of 1279 🔗

I hope you are right.

400059 JohnDanny, replying to JohnDanny, 59, #418 of 1279 🔗

I hate Johnson. I hate all of these sociopaths and criminals inflicting unfathomable damage on our society and people. But Johnson’s the PM and ultimately responsible. When the Rona first hit I thought, ‘Poor sod, he hasn’t been in the job long and he’s faced with this.’ That sentiment soon passed. I hope in his heart he is aware of the monstrous nature of his actions – or at least will be one day, and is reminded every day for the rest of his life what a cataclysmic failure he is/was as a Prime Minister. I want him to be hated and ridiculed for what he has done.

Same goes for Whitty, Hancock, Gove et al. But Johnson first and foremost.

400077 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to JohnDanny, 17, #419 of 1279 🔗

I’m with you on this. I want them all to receive the maximum penalty in addition to having all their assets seized. Traitors one and all. As for the NHS that’s a dead horse that needs burying.

400084 ▶▶ Janette, replying to JohnDanny, 10, #420 of 1279 🔗

Hear hear

400134 ▶▶ Kat, replying to JohnDanny, 10, #421 of 1279 🔗

Politics has become the refuge of the inadequate and the narcissistic.

400181 ▶▶ isobar, replying to JohnDanny, 10, #422 of 1279 🔗

So do I. We might, and quite rightly, criticise SAGE but at the end of the day it’s Johnson who calls the shots. Who on earth would have voted for him if they knew that he would wreck our society.

400406 ▶▶ Annie, replying to JohnDanny, 4, #423 of 1279 🔗

He will go down in history as the worst prime minister ever, leading (?) the worst government ever.

400061 Hoppy Uniatz, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 8, #424 of 1279 🔗

Expect pubs to re-open with a large optic of “hand sanitiser” at the door

400085 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 11, #425 of 1279 🔗


Pub is short for Public House. The British have been drinking ale in pubs (public houses or ale houses) since the bronze age serving traditional English ale which was made solely from fermented malt and distinctive to each ale house.

400121 ▶▶ FiatLux, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 14, #426 of 1279 🔗

The only problem is that they won’t be “pubs” as we know them, especially the “wet-only” variety (something apparently not within the scope of Whitty’s knowledge as to their function). With all the screens, logging, masking, tracking and distancing etc., they will be dreary, uncongenial wine-list free teetotal restaurants, mostly of average quality, and the only liquor might be the sherry in the trifle.

As one who almost never eats out, let alone in pubs, but who frequently enjoys a visit to pubs I have drunk in for more than half a century, to drink, meet and talk with friends and acquaintances of similar standing, I eschewed the mockery of “open pubs” last year. Going in one seemed equivalent to a day visit to HMP Wormwood Scrubs, what with the logging, rules, furniture screwed to the floor and well apart, masked and visored warders and the rest.

Apart from the complete buggeration of their social functions, and assuming there are still some left by this “release”, driving hundreds, if not thousands of these out of business will also drive a dray and horses through the large sums the Exchequer got from them, but never will again. The usual concomitant of that will be a massive increase in duties and therefore prices, which should complete the extermination of most English pubs very nicely.

400343 ▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to FiatLux, 1, #427 of 1279 🔗

Sad but true.

400063 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 34, #428 of 1279 🔗

Someone was asking earlier about Mike Yeadon. This appeared on Telegram:

[Forwarded from Robin Monotti Graziadei]

MICHAEL YEADON: “Robin. I’ve been cancelled by a series of systematic attacks. Two slanders on broadcast media (one was BBC, which I forced them to retract), several ‘hit pieces’, then two html hacks on Twitter, creating offensive fake tweets leading to account suspensions. I’ve had enough of that platform and closed the now redundant account.
I’ve also been fired from several biotech scientific advisory boards & consulting clients. Also suspended from groups I was helping from a scientific perspective (because I’m controversial, even toxic & potentially damaging to the cause).
Bottom line is ‘they’ have successfully cancelled my contribution.
I’ve been THE most qualified & persistent critic of U.K. government policy & this is why I’ve been relentlessly targeted. In private, I’m a gentle person, wholly unsuited & ill-equipped to handle this kind of nastiness. So deprived of a platform, I’ve nowhere to go for a while.
Best wishes, Mike”


400068 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Basileus, 28, #429 of 1279 🔗

They can’t win on facts so attempt to destroy a decent mans reputation and life.These people are vile scum

400082 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to jonathan Palmer, 24, #430 of 1279 🔗

I totally agree. I feel really sad and upset for Mike. I wish him all the best. He has been fantastic throughout this whole shitty show.

400101 ▶▶▶▶ Clancloch, replying to Janette, 8, #431 of 1279 🔗

And also the decency and humanity to admit he’s not got everything right-very sad.

400158 ▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Janette, 21, #432 of 1279 🔗

His mistake was to believe that we still live in a democracy where the scientific method is respected;
Not a dictatorship where science is made to fit government policy.

400378 ▶▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to jonathan Palmer, 2, #433 of 1279 🔗

Churchill’s “ perverted science”.

400087 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Basileus, 8, #434 of 1279 🔗

This is truly dreadful but sadly perhaps not unexpected. He might not be the last!

400088 ▶▶ mj, replying to Basileus, 19, #435 of 1279 🔗

Establishment destroying an inconvenient person. Why does David Kelly come to mind?

400116 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Basileus, 11, #436 of 1279 🔗

I would have thought the FSU plus a good lawyer could do something with this. I believe the identity of the hackers is known.

400189 ▶▶ peyrole, replying to Basileus, 14, #437 of 1279 🔗

No doubt its been made very clear to Heneghan that his funding , reputation and job is on the line unless he shuts up.
If the majority are kept ‘muzzled’ by furlough , soon to be replaced by UBI, no-one will be able to individually withstand the power of the state. The Corona Act will be superceded by the Climate Emergency Act, and every government from now on will rule by terror.
How prescient was Eric?

400197 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to peyrole, 1, #438 of 1279 🔗


400202 ▶▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to rockoman, 4, #439 of 1279 🔗

Blair, ‘George’ if you prefer.

400205 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Basileus, 6, #440 of 1279 🔗

at the very least Yeadon should be able to contribute here ATL-hopefully Toby will be in touch

400497 ▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to crimsonpirate, 4, #441 of 1279 🔗

That would be the Toby who stabbed Yeadon in the back on BBC by ‘admitting’ he was ‘wrong’ about the ‘2nd wave’. Don’t bank on it! MW

400262 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Basileus, 2, #442 of 1279 🔗

I’m still surprised people think Twitter is their friend. It will crush them.

400409 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 5, #443 of 1279 🔗

Twitter is a stinking sewer. How any decent person can bear to go there beats me.

400065 John David, 12, #444 of 1279 🔗

So the Daily Telegraph is behaving (like so many members of the mainstream media) as the useful idiot testing hypothesis out for SAGE’s thought police . Let’s see if the sheep will buy the pub without beer gambit. We can spin it that they’ve got their pubs back and so a few crumbs from the table should keep them happy.

400067 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 32, #445 of 1279 🔗

The twitter cancelation of Mike Yeadon is the best news we’ve had for a long time (Apologies Mike)

Proof that they are running scared. I don’t see how the intelligence agencies can not be involved in what was done

400102 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Cecil B, 5, #446 of 1279 🔗

Yes, there’s a lot at stake – hopefully, in the future there will be a lot of them at the stake.

400111 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Cecil B, 14, #447 of 1279 🔗

The Corona Project is a DEEP state project, almost entirely driven by UK “spys” and covert actions. Ex Mi6 people and intelligence service assets are deeply involved internationall. The Crown Territories, Five Eyes Countries. All of them balls deep in the scam. It’s their scam, its a UK initiative. Thats what we do best, underhand skullduggery, and duplicitous back-stabbery. Like the sneaky little boy in the playground that get the big stupid bullies to do their dirty work.

400200 ▶▶ peyrole, replying to Cecil B, 9, #448 of 1279 🔗

They are not ‘running scared’ , they are just removing inconvenient obstacles with the minimum of fuss.

400502 ▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Cecil B, #449 of 1279 🔗

However, he needs a better platform than Twatter because he knows his stuff and tells the truth. MW

400072 iansn, replying to iansn, 46, #450 of 1279 🔗

I woke up last night and started thinking, where are all the QC’s, human rights lawyers and Liberty and Shami. Where are the ambulance chasers? All of them completely silent. A girl who runs away to join ISIS and get caught out has a queue of them waiting to represent her for free. Has there been some hidden legislation or a secret order been put on them all? What the fuck happened to all of them? What is going on? Any legal people on here have any idea?

400080 ▶▶ isobar, replying to iansn, 12, #451 of 1279 🔗

Yes, I’d like to know that too. Why are the legal rights lawyers sitting on their hands?

400081 ▶▶ mj, replying to iansn, 16, #452 of 1279 🔗

they are all establishment and all behind the new order

400106 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to iansn, 14, #453 of 1279 🔗

Doesn’t really matter does it, because the judges aren’t interested in legal arguments just covidian worship. I don’t know when people are going to wake up to the theatre that is the corrupt judiciary.

400078 Cumbriacracked, replying to Cumbriacracked, 9, #454 of 1279 🔗

PM meets 1922 committee after PMQ’s, MSM start reporting things lifted by May elections, with no doubt another speech full of waffle on Feb 22nd. I read all of that as throwing crumbs to the 1922 and CRG, meaning in everything other than the PM’s mind nothing will change for at least another 2 months. Positive news is good of course and if it makes people feel more optimistic that is great too, but we have been here before. Do not want to be all doom and gloom just the realism of how I feel?

The TV and papers have been paid millions by the government to get their message out, one could hope that once the advertising revenue stops the MSM could turn on the government “unless you keep the money coming”. So we will now start to see ads turning towards whatever the governments latest bull is. The MSM and government are totally dependant on each other.

400090 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Cumbriacracked, 14, #455 of 1279 🔗

so, early May, we can expect a new mutant variant, or some other bullshit to scare the crap out of the gullible

400100 ▶▶▶ TheClone, replying to Major Panic, 2, #456 of 1279 🔗

Better late April to keep the heat on!

400109 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Major Panic, 2, #457 of 1279 🔗

Yes. We should take bets on it!

400148 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Major Panic, 5, #458 of 1279 🔗

They can’t afford to open up.The whole facade will collapse.

400093 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Cumbriacracked, 22, #459 of 1279 🔗

It’s all bullshit, he’s a fat lying fuck

400129 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Cecil B, 2, #460 of 1279 🔗

You said what I was thinking in far fewer words! Thank you!

400094 davews, 6, #461 of 1279 🔗

I know a few of you on here also post on John Redwood’s Diary. A couple of weeks back the website got ‘tarted up’. Don’t particularly like the new look myself. It always took a long time for posts to get through moderation but the couple of posts I have submitted recently have never appeared and the overall number of comments seems way way down from what it used to be. Is John also selectively ignoring sceptical comments?

Out on my morning walk, saw very few people. But no less than 3 of the 6 or so were masked, WTF. Including the woman opposite, walking her dog, who kindly said ‘good morning’ but I never even recognised her.

400097 JayBee, 8, #462 of 1279 🔗

Snowden just mines his data, time periods and countries to suit his preconceived conclusions and completely omits referring to all those that would immediately debunk them, like Sweden, or the relevant US comps and figures to Florida (Cali, N.Y.) and South Dakota (North Dakota).
I’ve had it with the quality and sincerity of them and their ‘debate’.

400099 Winston Smith, replying to Winston Smith, 10, #463 of 1279 🔗

I have solved it!

Instead of a mass vaccination programme, a mass sterilisation programme, no ifs, no buts. Everybody, worldwide.

It will produce zero covid and zero carbon in time but we’ll get there in the end, we are in it together.

If we want to hurry it along a bit, focused euthanasia programmes can be initiated, or even mass euthanasia.


400103 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Winston Smith, 5, #464 of 1279 🔗

Can we start with the PM and SAGE group? I mean the focused euthanasia.

400105 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Winston Smith, 5, #465 of 1279 🔗

If they are so bothered about the world being overpopulated why didn’t they bring in a policy of only 2 children per family instead of carrying out this horrendous show???

400107 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Janette, 8, #466 of 1279 🔗

Alexander Johnson’s hardly done his bit for keeping population numbers down either.

400389 ▶▶▶▶ Janette, replying to kh1485, 2, #467 of 1279 🔗

Haha dead right!

400184 ▶▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Janette, 11, #468 of 1279 🔗

Indeed the likely root cause. Population control has been needed for decades. Unfortunately it is incompatible with capitalism and clashes with some very strong animal instincts. For anyone that thought about it for five minutes, it would have been obvious that the alternative to limiting breeding was either huge wars or epic crimes against humanity like the hell that we have incoming now.

And just to confirm, I am sure that the CO2 levels are a totally fraudulent distraction, again propagated by pseudo-science. The real issues are chopping down forests to farm for food, filling the land and oceans with rubbish, degrading the soils with intensive farming, polluting our breathable air with the actual nasty stuff that comes from combustion engines, exhausting our fuels and precious metals, fracking the water table, etc. It cannot be solved with bird-crunching turbines, lithium ion batteries, pretend recycling, heat pumps, solar panel farms, or any of the other nonsense they use to pretend that the issue is being resolved. It can only be solved by reducing population numbers. I’m not sure if that is what they are attempting now, or if this is another attempt at kicking the can down the road by replacing capitalism.

400213 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to TheBluePill, 2, #469 of 1279 🔗

In countries like ours I’ve found it incredible that people were still being paid to have children ever since the 1970s. That being that the contraceptive pill and legal abortion have been available since then and so I’ve felt envious of children born since then (ie as I naively assumed both parents had decided to have them). Well I was wrong on that one – but I still certainly feel that anyone having children after that date should cover the costs themselves and not expect child benefit/etc from the rest of us – even if only the mother decided to have the child (rather than both parents – as it ought to be and I had naively assumed it would be). That is a relatively painless way to ensure that it’s unlikely anyone would have more than 2 children (except the wealthy – who do what they want anyway as we know) and I know that would mean some people desperate for children would stick to one or not have any at all – but it would be a sight better option than the current situation of having a go at the lot of us (which I do feel is part of what is happening at present).

400415 ▶▶▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to ElizaP, 2, #470 of 1279 🔗

Disagree. Child benefit was all my siblings and I had to live on in the 70s after my parents divorced and father left the country, without paying maintenance.
Arguing he should have paid up didn’t put any food on the table.

400280 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to TheBluePill, 3, #471 of 1279 🔗

The current narrative is nothing to do with AGW, the real issues facing our future are population, population & population which is the root cause of over consumption of finite natural resources, diminishing bio-diversity & death of nature itself!

Nothing they are openly saying or doing is in mitigation of those facts, over population is a nightmare with no acceptable solution or outcome!

400449 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Anti_socialist, #472 of 1279 🔗

Absolutely right.
Doesn’t make me feel any better about the present bollox, however.

400204 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Winston Smith, 4, #473 of 1279 🔗

The “vaccine” manufacturers are already ahead of you.

400104 Julian, replying to Julian, 22, #474 of 1279 🔗

A pub that cannot serve alcohol is not a pub

400110 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Julian, 5, #475 of 1279 🔗

Indeed. Also no way that they will even be able to break even for a day if they only serve food

400130 ▶▶▶ John David, replying to Victoria, 14, #476 of 1279 🔗

Most small pubs will remain closed. They can’t viability operate without being able to sell alcohol. As a friend commented it’s a bit like them allowing the theatres to open but then not allowing live performance. This was something the government actually did.

400135 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to John David, 16, #477 of 1279 🔗

The fact that these kinds of things are openly spoken of and not subjected to immediate widespread ridicule in the media and from the opposition is as clear a demonstration as you could wish for of how dysfunctional our “democracy” has become – in fact it’s more than dysfunctional, it is non-existent.

400169 ▶▶▶▶▶ Niborxof, replying to Julian, 14, #478 of 1279 🔗

The endarkenment

400451 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Niborxof, 2, #479 of 1279 🔗

Good word.
Deest lux in tenebris.

400170 ▶▶▶▶ l835, replying to John David, 1, #480 of 1279 🔗

“It’s a bit like them allowing the theatres to open but then not allowing live performance“

We call them cinemas! Remember them…

400273 ▶▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to John David, 6, #481 of 1279 🔗

When it was announced in Wales that pubs, which until that point could sell alcohol with meals would be prevented from seling alcohol, Wetherspoons shut all their pubs in Wales, as did Brains, who also shut their Breweries.

Many will not reopen, even after the lockdown ends.

400108 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 6, #482 of 1279 🔗

Dangers of Water Fluoridation

The main fluoride chemical ( fluorosilicic acid ) that is added to water is not what most people would call a naturally occurring compound. It is a corrosive acid captured in the air pollution control devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry.

Fluoride is captured in air pollution control devices because fluoride gases are hazardous air pollutants that cause significant environmental harm. This captured fluoride acid is the most contaminated chemical added to public water supplies, and may impose additional risks to those presented by natural fluorides.

These risks include a possible cancer hazard from the acid’s elevated arsenic content, and a possible neurotoxic hazard from the acid’s ability–under some conditions–to increase the erosion of lead from old pipes.



400113 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Victoria, 7, #483 of 1279 🔗

If lockdowns doesn’t work they will try fluoride! For your own safety! You just need to believe them and the “science”. They will produce the necessary “science”.

400239 ▶▶▶ John001, replying to Jack, 3, #485 of 1279 🔗

That’s good news. They’ve had widespread fluoridation for ages & I don’t think it’s put their dentists out of business. Vitamin D might help do that though.

400114 captainbeefheart, replying to captainbeefheart, 10, #486 of 1279 🔗

Mmmm mmm! I love the taste of fluoride in my drinking water!

Teeth nice and strong (I stopped using toothpaste when I realised they’re poisoning our water) – and no other health effects to worry about.

This saves me about 7p a day in toothpaste which I will be donating to the nhs.

We URGENTLY need to put fluoride in all water – even bottled water – to save the nhs!!! It’s the most pressing issue facing the country!

400118 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to captainbeefheart, 5, #487 of 1279 🔗

Stay home! Drink fluoridated water! Save NHS!

400214 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to captainbeefheart, 5, #488 of 1279 🔗

Fluoride in the water is compulsory mass medication – it will make us all sick

400257 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Victoria, 4, #489 of 1279 🔗

I do not consent. Actually I have never consumed tap water.

400374 ▶▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #490 of 1279 🔗

Me neither -have you seen what it does to the bottom of boats?

400387 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Judy Watson, 3, #491 of 1279 🔗

I remember as a kid tap water had little taste & it was served via lead pipes! Now scottish water is vile, it literally fizzes on your tongue it is so heavily contaminated with chemicals.

400266 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to captainbeefheart, 2, #492 of 1279 🔗

I more concerned about his plans for stopping obiesity.

Is he plannning on extending face mask rules to a securely locked muzzle on everyone that can only be removed twice a day for meal times at designatedgovernment eating outlets where calories are strictly controlled dependent on your weight.

400115 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 24, #493 of 1279 🔗

I was interested in the article in the above list regarding climate change and lockdowns;
Are you ready for the climate lockdowns? I have felt for some while that climate change measures such as electric cars and no more fossil fuel central heating could only be done with huge cost, social disruption and the results are likely to be socially divisive i.e. you will need to be well off to have an electric car and a warm house. It does seem that the virus lockdown has been a good practice for the imposition of outrageous climate change measures that they previously would have doubted they could get away with.
Welcome to the People’s Undemocratic Republic of Green Britain, led by our dear leader Princess Nut-Nuts.

400139 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Steve Martindale, 17, #494 of 1279 🔗

There are not enough rare earth materials in the world to replace Britain’s car fleet with electric vehicles.
Also the electrical generating capacity would have to be expanded massively.
Conclusion,not a lot of us will be driving in the future.

400172 ▶▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to jonathan Palmer, 10, #495 of 1279 🔗

But nuclear verboten and massive battery storage will be invented for when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing. Noddy numbers. When the cockroaches evolve, they will look back to try to figure out where we went and conclude we killed ourselves off in a mass collective insanity event. Silly humans.

400221 ▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 5, #496 of 1279 🔗

It won’t be the cockroaches but the Chinese who still rely on coal.

400161 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Steve Martindale, #497 of 1279 🔗

Nut Nut but yeah.

400256 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #498 of 1279 🔗

Nuclear is the only way to maintain anything resembling today’s consumption let alone any increase in energy needs. It’ll be a case of a car for me not for thee.

400125 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 19, #499 of 1279 🔗
400212 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Basileus, 7, #500 of 1279 🔗

Well done!

It is also not a vaccine as per the definition of a vaccine – vaccines prevent illnesses

400127 captainbeefheart, replying to captainbeefheart, 35, #501 of 1279 🔗

This “you can open, but not serve beer” thing sounds like a way to stop financially supporting pubs (because they are allowed to open) but as they’re not allowed to sell beer, they’ll go bankrupt anyway.


400364 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to captainbeefheart, 9, #502 of 1279 🔗

is this a way to stop paying furlough to pub staff? If the gov removes the pub opening restrictions and simultaneously remove the furlough so the pub has to pay the full wages regardless of whether makes any revenue. So would mean more unemployment and pubs go out of business which is what their objective is seems.

400128 Harry hopkins, replying to Harry hopkins, 11, #503 of 1279 🔗

Pubs to reopen in April–But can’t serve alchohol

Followed by hairdressers who can’t cut hair, book shops who can’t sell books and travel agents who can’t sell holidays.

On a separate note….It’s interesting that Wetherspoons and Greene King are looking to buy up small pubs that have gone bust to add to their already huge chains. Do they know something the rest of us don’t?


400187 ▶▶ arfurmo, replying to Harry hopkins, 2, #504 of 1279 🔗

Bottom of article “ This article were amended on 22 January 2021. Wetherspoon has not stated that it intends to buy up “smaller pubs” as the headline of the earlier version said. This was an error based on reported plans by the Redcat Pub Company. Neither did Wetherspoon’s recent statement to investors say it planned to buy pubs in general as the article said. Rather the company announced that it is, “considering the acquisition of a number of properties in central London, the freehold reversions of pubs of which it is currently the tenant, and properties adjacent to successful pubs”. We apologise to J D Wetherspoon for these errors.”

400441 ▶▶ CGL, replying to Harry hopkins, #505 of 1279 🔗

What about Taco Bell – are they buying up the restaurants?

400132 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 35, #506 of 1279 🔗

Feeling arsey today so put this to the DHSC about Wancock’s inetrview on TV yesterday:

In a TV interview on the 05th February 2021 the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care Matthew John David Hancock stated that over 30 000 people were in hospital “with covid”.

From the Department of Health and Social Care Reference FOI-1240596 and it stated that a positive PCR test means nothing medically. The actual quote:

“SARS-CoV-2 RNA means the RNA is present in that sample at that point in time. It does not mean that the patient has the novel coronavirus (COVID-19).” And “The result has to be taken into context of symptoms present.”

To corroborate the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care Matthew John David Hancock’s statement I request under the Freedom of Information legislation the following information:

Q1 – Did each and every one of the 30 000+ people in hospital “with covid” have the diagnosis confirmed by a follow-up test using a different method by having the actual virus on the swab that tested positive confirmed physically by isolating it as being SARS-CoV-2, by having the relevant symptoms and by having medical interventions such as a scan of the lungs to show the damage that SARS-CoV-2 causes?

Q2 – Or was it just a “positive test result” only with no further confirmation performed?

Q3 – Is each and every one of the 30 000+ in hospital “with covid” only and this is their only medical condition or are they undergoing treatment for other medical conditions?

Q4 – How many of the 30 000+ in hospital “with covid” are receiving treatment for their existing medical condition and are receiving NO treatment for “covid”?

Q5 – How many of the 30 000+ in hospital “with covid” have no symptoms?

Without this information being part of the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care Matthew John David Hancock ’s interview his statement that over “30 000 people were in hospital with covid” is meaningless and can be construed as either ignorance of the facts or deliberate misrepresentation of the truth.

400453 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Awkward Git, #507 of 1279 🔗

AG, you never cease to amaze me.

400137 frankfrankly, replying to frankfrankly, 10, #508 of 1279 🔗

The modellers’ baleful influence continues. Rather than note empirical studies-like the Jutland and US evidence which show NPI’s don’t work, they stick to model:-GIGO is forgotten. There was a distinguished professor who invited a brilliant young rsearcher to give a presentation before a large audience. At the end he stood up in front of everyone and said “Thank you for showing me that I have been wrong these 10 years.” This is a necessary spirit which is totally lacking among the modellers [I use Bayesian techniques but I’m not their prisoner]. Einstein had a large wpb for his mistakes. Ferguson et al.’s lack of humility is dangerous.

I fear that Lockdown opponents have not been ruthless enough and have been much too reasonable. Prof. Ferguson could have been labelled the ‘Mad Prof’ given his being consistently wrong by a factor of a thousand. The suggestion that he has Munchausen’s Syndrome By Proxy because he appears to have a saviour complex could have been stuck to him and the Imperial modellers. That’s playing dirty, but when did Ferguson ever play fair?

400146 ▶▶ Dame Lynet, replying to frankfrankly, 5, #509 of 1279 🔗

Science isn’t their main driver, they want control. People who are free are anathema to them.

400372 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Dame Lynet, 3, #510 of 1279 🔗

IMO they don’t directly care whether people are free or not, as long as they are important, get listened to, stay in business, prestige, money, attention

SAGE are in the emergencies business, so they talk their book – it’s up to the cabinet to see through that

Any leader of a large enterprise is always going to have his ear bent by experts and to an extent to rely on or trust them – working out which ones you can trust, evaluating expert advice has always been part of being a leader – in this they have failed utterly, or been complicit in the lies, or both

400250 ▶▶ RickH, replying to frankfrankly, 7, #511 of 1279 🔗

Exactly. I’ve posted this before – but it is an illustration of how useless is a lot of mathematical computer modelling is.

I have used statistical techniques to project future trends – the main lesson learned being that potential error limits diverge so rapidly that the results are often useless.

However, when Vallance came up with Imperial’s ‘4000 deaths a day in December’, I did my own forecast for a month ahead, based purely on likely trends projecting forward from known data and the common annual patterns. Nothing sophisticated. Just an educated guess.

Result :

Witty/Imperial error : +135%
My error : – 3.5%

‘Nuff said.

400140 Alan P, replying to Alan P, 1, #512 of 1279 🔗

Anyone else seen Mike Yeadon has been removed from Twitter?

400142 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Alan P, 1, #513 of 1279 🔗

Yes if you look further back on today’s comments there’s some more info on what happened

400144 ▶▶▶ Alan P, replying to Julian, 1, #514 of 1279 🔗

Always late to the party!

400147 kh1485, 6, #515 of 1279 🔗

‘Safety’ Ambassadors doing a circuit of an empty park right now. They reminded me of Max and Paddy from Phoenix Nights .

400149 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 12, #516 of 1279 🔗

ATL NHS Deforms ‘reforms’, will simply make the useless 100-layered management obese socialist institution worse.

The reforms will also scrap forced privatisation and competition within the NHS. Dozens of new management bodies will be given control over billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money. The move is a reversal of 2012 reforms by Lord Lansley, then the Health Secretary.

In other words double down on the stupid and make sure the NHS becomes more inefficient. 12 beds per 1000 pop in Belarus. 2 in the NHS…..but lots of climate and diversity officers……..

400224 ▶▶ John001, replying to FerdIII, 3, #517 of 1279 🔗

8-9% of GDP compared to 14% in Switzerland and 18% in USA hardly suggests inefficiency.

400238 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to John001, 1, #518 of 1279 🔗

Precisely – whatever else.

I’m afraid that with some, hobby-horses take over the facts.

400368 ▶▶▶ frankfrankly, replying to John001, 1, #519 of 1279 🔗

10% of GDP I think with 1.3m staff, half clinically trained.

400152 straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, 10, #520 of 1279 🔗

Just had a GP survey questionaire pop through the door. How has the NHS got time money & resources for this? I thought the NHS was on its knees?

400185 ▶▶ Mayo, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, 1, #521 of 1279 🔗

It shouldn’t be on its knees. A number of Trusts are dripping with cash.

Have had two of the same in the last month. They were welcomed by recycling.

400153 Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 25, #523 of 1279 🔗

From the Spectator: “Health Select Committee chair Jeremy Hunt said ministers shouldn’t lift the English lockdown until there are 1,000 cases a day.” Is there any brain activity going on here? What a swivel-eyed loon.

400160 ▶▶ Will, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 3, #524 of 1279 🔗

Well we all know Hunt rhymes with…

400190 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Will, 3, #525 of 1279 🔗

well the presenters on R4 Today certainly do.

400173 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 11, #526 of 1279 🔗

The House of Commons has now become the U-bend of public life. It now collects the smelly, useless debris that has no function.

400174 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 4, #527 of 1279 🔗

Completely arbitrary number.

400215 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 12, #528 of 1279 🔗

Wasn’t Hunt health minister when a report said that in the event of a pandemic the NHS would be overrun.
A questioning media would ask why preparations were not made instead of giving him a platform to call for everlasting lockdown.

400234 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to jonathan Palmer, 3, #529 of 1279 🔗

Yes – and he was one of those many complicit in reducing NHS capacity.

400254 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to jonathan Palmer, 6, #530 of 1279 🔗

Exercise Cygnus 2016 concluded that in the event of a pandemic the NHS would be overwhelmed. Hunt claims he tried to prepare the NHS by encouraging increased training for doctors and nurses. However under his watch NHS funding was reduced in real terms and NHS capacity was reduced. However, what was prepared was the legislation that became the Coronavirus Act 2020, which gave the government the authority to rule by ministerial decree (Part 2 Section 90).

400392 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 3, #531 of 1279 🔗

Easy as long as you are only doing testing for sick people in hospitals to confirm if they have the virus. So if you stop doing 700,000 unnecessary tests of people who have no symptoms. Then drop the cycle rates of the pcr test to 30. Then that’s possible next week. Can I go out now?

400159 RickH, replying to RickH, 10, #532 of 1279 🔗

“Is the ONS’s Infection Survey Data Wholly Reliable?”
Sorry – but this is a dumber than dumb question.

Of course it isn’t. Never has been. Never will be.

It’s based on PCR testing.


There might be some loose (but unknown) degree of relationship between detected RNA and real SARS infection – but it’s too late to investigate.

… and I write as a supporter of the ONS in general – the one light in a morass of data garbage.

There is no accurate data on SARS-CoV-2 infection; it’s as simple as that – and the pigeons of deliberate obfuscation are now coming home to roost.

400198 ▶▶ Julian, replying to RickH, 9, #533 of 1279 🔗

Indeed they are – let’s assume for a moment that the govt want a way out, they have made it very hard for themselves because “cases” and “covid deaths” and “covid hospitalisations” are all such distortions that it’s nigh on impossible to measure any positive impact that the vaccination program is having

They may know this and that’s why they are waiting until spring/summer to lieft restrictions, by which time the seasons will have done the work for them

400216 ▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to Julian, 6, #534 of 1279 🔗

If they really wanted a quick way out all they need to do is follow the WHO’s latest PCR giudelines, turn down the tests to amp of 25 , and hey presto, wonderful vaccines, no more cases etc etc.
My guess is that there is unfinished business with the next stage of the ‘reset’ ie the climate emergency and relevant legislation which they need to do before taking the boot off the throat. Maybe, just maybe the current chancellor is not yet playing by quite the same rules, hence the growing attacks in the media.
They might need until May to get this sorted, UBI etc , hence the tardiness.
Of course people like Grove and Hancock will be very reluctant to lose any ‘power’ , tin pot meglomaniacs are not the most subtle of people.

400228 ▶▶▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to peyrole, 8, #535 of 1279 🔗

I read somewhere when I was reading an analysis of Putin’s speech to the WEF/Davos “meeting” that the Russians say it will all be over in May as that is when they would have cleared out thise behind all this.

No corroboration in the article for this opinion but it would be nice to think someone is fighting back.

Problem is I use a VPN based overseas with history turned off when looking at things like this so hard to find it again but if I stumble across it will post it.

400360 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to peyrole, 3, #536 of 1279 🔗


Gove, Hancock, SAGE are power mad and don’t want it to end

The PM has no balls

That’s my optimistic, wishful thinking take on it

400166 PastImperfect, 8, #537 of 1279 🔗

I put this up late yesterday.

This lady is calling for action.
Essential viewing

400175 Dodderydude, replying to Dodderydude, 3, #538 of 1279 🔗

I see that the US VAERS (vaccine adverse reactions) recording system currently has nine cases of post-vaccine abortion or foetal death.


400210 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Dodderydude, 5, #539 of 1279 🔗

The CDC is telling pregnant women that there are likely no problems to get vaccinated with the Covid19 vaccine during pregnancy, and here is what unfortunately can happen…

400177 Smelly Melly, 3, #540 of 1279 🔗

Something to make you smile, from Ivor Cummings. (Hitler in the bunker having a rant about lockdowns).


400178 Ned of the Hills, replying to Ned of the Hills, 7, #541 of 1279 🔗

Yesterday on this page:-


Patients in mechanical ventilation beds
were shown as being nearly twice as many as the previous day!

I see this morning that’s been corrected. The number is now shown as being lower than the previous day.

Anyone else spot this?

400455 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ned of the Hills, 1, #542 of 1279 🔗

Think of a number, double it, multiply by x, take away the number you first thought of…

400180 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 2, #543 of 1279 🔗

Just thinking out loud but I’m wondering if the introduction of quarantine hotels has anything to do with facilitating sporting events.

The build up for the Australian Open tennis tournament required all players and their teams to quarantine in hotels for 2 weeks.

I can’t imagine something like Wimbledon and other major sporting events going ahead without a similar approach.

400186 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Nobody2021, 1, #544 of 1279 🔗

It’s already been done last summer with the cricket and the Champions League football

400208 ▶▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to crimsonpirate, #545 of 1279 🔗

Which actually shows the absurdity of them trying to claim things are more on a knifeedge now than before. But that’s exactly what they’re saying now. We have to be more cautious.

400290 ▶▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Nobody2021, 1, #546 of 1279 🔗

Yes. They had more patients than beds by about 75%.
Also I’m not sure if people realize but mechanical ventilation beds is not in any way the same thing as number of people being ventilated or even the number of ventilators available.
It’s nearer to being the number of people who would be considered suitable for ventilation.

400183 Harry hopkins, replying to Harry hopkins, 7, #547 of 1279 🔗

Danger!!—turn off your TV!

This is the most comprehensive, persuasive, debunking video covering all aspects of ‘Covid’ I have yet seen. Send it to your brainwashed friends, relatives and neighbours. Anyone with a smidgeon of brain still in tact might be saved.


400209 ▶▶ John001, replying to Harry hopkins, 5, #548 of 1279 🔗

Two-thirds of his points are excellent, like normal trade for undertakers and unemployed US nurses. Any sharp mind who’s followed this since March 2020 and is working for the govt will rapidly pick holes in maybe 6-8 and use them to discredit the whole video.

Reduce it to 15-20 questions and he’d have an almost impregnable case which people could send to MPs. My MP is a member of the CRG but still says in most e-mails something like

‘the government has acted because lives must be saved’.

400385 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Harry hopkins, 2, #549 of 1279 🔗

That’s an excellent succinct summary of the whole debarcle

400211 JHUNTZ, replying to JHUNTZ, 11, #550 of 1279 🔗

What jumped out at me today was Hancock requiring fluoride in the water throughout GB. I thought it was a joke when I first read the sentence. It is my understanding that there is a lot of controversy around this. Why risk including it?

400218 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to JHUNTZ, 4, #551 of 1279 🔗

Why risk keeping the lockdowns going? You can’t comprehend how stupid he is.

400220 ▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to TheClone, 18, #552 of 1279 🔗

He is not stupid, he’s doing exactly what somone else wants him to.

400219 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to JHUNTZ, 10, #553 of 1279 🔗

Fluoride prevents clear thinking, does nothing to benefit teeth, and causes problems with bones.

1940 Soviet concentration camps maintained by fluoride administration to inmates to decrease resistance to authority and induce physical deteriorization.”

Link: https://wariscrime.com/new/hidden-history-fluoride/

400225 ▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to this is my username, #554 of 1279 🔗

That’s interesting. Am I right in saying it is in the water in America? Could go some way to explain the current crop of PC millenials.

400232 ▶▶▶▶ Christopher, replying to JHUNTZ, 8, #555 of 1279 🔗

Many believe it calcifies the pineal gland , dulling any critical thinking and any divine spark you may posses . As you say it looks like it has helped to create the NPC shitlib PC millenials that now populate the states along with the long march through the institutions .

400284 ▶▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to JHUNTZ, #556 of 1279 🔗

I believe it’s in most states of the US, yes. It’s also used to fumigate our food when it crosses borders.

400223 ▶▶ Christopher, replying to JHUNTZ, 12, #557 of 1279 🔗

I couldn’t believe That I was actually reading that this morning , just when I thought this country couldn’t get any more dystopian I find the Torie junta want to finish off those that survive the vax by putting a Neuro Toxin in the nations drinking water .

400243 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to JHUNTZ, 6, #558 of 1279 🔗

So let me get this straight – we are not allowed to breathe, we could be poisoned by drinking the water and booze will be banned. So next up – what do they plan to do to our food?

400248 ▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to godowneasy, 8, #559 of 1279 🔗

“what do they plan to do to our food?”

We’re all compelled to go vegan.

400251 ▶▶▶▶ Christopher, replying to Richy_m_99, 6, #560 of 1279 🔗

Bingo , Bill Gate’s Vegan kibble , Lab grown Franken Meat , starvation rations for all .

400456 ▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Richy_m_99, #561 of 1279 🔗

Soylent green

400717 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to godowneasy, #562 of 1279 🔗

isn’t the plan that we should eat insects or something?

400230 Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, 12, #563 of 1279 🔗

Further ONS evidence of false positives?

I was looking at the ONS publication

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey: characteristics of people testing positive for COVID-19 in England, 27 January 2021


What they seem to be saying is that with cycle threshold (Ct values) less than 30 only around 50% of people actually have any symptoms at all. I think this is referring to people who are in the infection survey.

But in the data (table 6a) attaching to the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey, UK: 5 February 2021

It is clear that over half of those testing positive in England have a cycle threshold of over 32.2 in the latest week. By my understanding 32.2 is a point where there is over 4 times less virus (fragments or live virus) detectable than at 30.

Given that PCR should only be used to confirm a diagnosis of covid, the presence through a test of SARS-C0V-2 (the virus not the disease) without symptoms should not be classed as a covid case. Of course symptoms and a positive test don’t mean covid because the symptoms may have been caused by another virus, but it may be useful for diagnosis.

But at a very rough guess we might assume all those above a 32.2 cycle threshold have no symptoms at all that might be typical of covid caused by SARS-C0V-2 and half of those below 32.2 have symptoms. This would mean about 25% of those testing positive have any covid like symptoms.

In practice some above a cycle threshold threshold of 32.2 might have some symptoms, but then between 30 and 32.2 you would expect only a small fraction to have symptoms (given it is only 50% in those with a cycle threshold under 30), so there are some balancing errors there and overall 25% is probably an overstatement of those in a random sample who test positive who have covid like symptoms.

On a related point ONS stopped publishing their figure of new ‘infections’ after 14th November. This was probably the most useful figure by far in the ONS infection survey figure, because it was I believe based on the point at which someone first tested positive, so it avoided including people who test positive for a number of weeks or months despite not being infectious after perhaps the first week, if they are ever infectious at all.

Publishing new ‘infections’ shows more clearly when R had dropped below 1 before the lockdowns, whereas publishing the number testing positive hides that information because numbers are swelled by people testing positive week after week after week. It also inflates numbers, and that is obvious because their number of ‘new infections’ (or more accurately the weekly equivalent) was always a factor less than the number of total ‘infections’ reported. If you assume each person who tests positive is ‘infectious’ for one week, then the ratio of total ‘infections’ to ‘new infections’ should oscillate around 1, but for example in the last week that data was available in November it was nearly 4.

I’m afraid I have lost all confidence in the ONS data. I don’t believe they are fabricating data as such, but they are using techniques such as

a) publishing modelled data to hide the real raw data,
b) using misleading and biased wording to describe the data (their misuse of infections and at its most blatant for example they say something is increasing in every region and then illustrate that with a graph that suggests it isn’t increasing in every region)
c) deliberately not collecting or publishing the useful data that would show what was happening
d) using deliberately obscure techniques to make analysis difficult
e) publishing obviously inconsistent results without explanation

400264 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Freecumbria, 2, #564 of 1279 🔗

Well – the best figure I recall is that only around 20% of PCR+ results represent actual infection.

400235 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 12, #565 of 1279 🔗

Pub? No alcohol? Does not compute. Public Health Puritan Revolution? New Prohibition? Laughing in our faces.

This is two hours long. Prepared by the owner of MyPillow. An exposé of election fraud in the U.S. Presidential election. The last section, with around 10 minutes to go, shows cyberattacks mainly from China in realtime, with the IP address of the sender and the receiver, plus the number of votes that were deleted from Trump’s ledger. Only Trump. Worth a look. We should hear more about their findings next week.

400504 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #566 of 1279 🔗

I saw some it last night. Was a lot of what we already knew, but we’ll done in the way it’s consolidated.

400236 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 22, #567 of 1279 🔗

The coronavirus madness has resulted in the effective banning of sport to all except the professional elite. So this weekend as the Australian Open and the Six Nations are celebrated by the corporate media ordinary people are denied the right to join with others to participate in sporting activities. From a public health perspective this seems to be backwards. Lack of exercise it the major public health problem. Participation in sport encourages people to regularly engage in exercise. Such activity not only improves physical health, it improves emotional well being; it fosters positive social relationships and. community cohesion. Even the NHS recognises that physical activity as a miracle cure*. Yet the government has responded to the virus, allegedly on public health grounds, by making virtually all sport, for virtually everyone, illegal, the exact opposite of what a responsible policy maker would do.


400276 ▶▶ ituex, replying to Steve Hayes, 5, #568 of 1279 🔗

What nobody seems to question is where are the next elite coming from with no school or club sport.

400293 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to ituex, 5, #569 of 1279 🔗

So true. The child has not had a swimming lesson since last March – all the good work undone

400711 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to ituex, #570 of 1279 🔗

they will come from the elite who are in the process of exterminating the rest of us

400351 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Steve Hayes, 7, #571 of 1279 🔗

I’ve nothing in particular against watching sport or against those who make their living from sport, but I am boycotting any sporting event, live or on TV, that engages in coronamadness in any way, and as long as people in that country are prevented from doing that sport at all levels

It’s bread and circuses

400237 Katabasis, replying to Katabasis, 22, #572 of 1279 🔗

“He said above all that the government wants to avoid another lockdown.”

Ah yes just like “above all” it wanted to avoid the last three lockdowns and the “tiers” that were lockdown in all but name.

400313 ▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to Katabasis, 3, #573 of 1279 🔗

“No one has the intention of building a wall!”
— Walter Ulbricht, 1961, shortly before the Berlin Wall was built.


400240 JohnDanny, replying to JohnDanny, 27, #574 of 1279 🔗

Multiple stabbings in London:


My sources tell me that Government and SAGE officials are keen to find out if those responsible for these stabbings were safely distanced at the time and using ‘knife throwing’ techniques and had sanitised their hands and knives beforehand. These officials stress that stabbings not adhering to social distancing guidlines will not be tolerated.

400286 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to JohnDanny, 3, #575 of 1279 🔗


Found this link whilst reading the link above – I hope SERCO* don’t get the contract for providing food in the internment camps quarantine hotels.

*They will of course

400241 sam s.j., replying to sam s.j., 8, #576 of 1279 🔗

fluoride i read is meant to control the masses .i think they are getting really desperate !

400247 ▶▶ Basics, replying to sam s.j., 1, #577 of 1279 🔗

How does fluoride work to protect enamel?

400261 ▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Basics, 5, #578 of 1279 🔗

sorrry i don’t knwo but i have read flouride is supposed to make people dumb adn compliant and unmoitvated

400283 ▶▶▶▶ Basics, replying to sam s.j., 5, #579 of 1279 🔗

No need to apologise. It is the simplest of questions we ought all to know, yet nobody does. It is even fun to ask chatting to a pharmacist when asking for non fluoride toothpaste, you get to watch them run rabidly out of steam.

We all learn fluoride is wonderbar, but how does it work?

400341 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Basics, 1, #580 of 1279 🔗

Disrupts the regularity of the hydroxyapatite crystals in the enamel matrix, makes it physically stronger and increases the remineralisation rate after acid attack.

400371 ▶▶▶▶ Basics, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 2, #581 of 1279 🔗

Thank you. This is something for me to get my teeth into. I have never been able to get a evenly slightly helpful answer in years of asking.

It’s labelled as poison on tubes in US. So I shall be intruiged to learn about the strengthening studies.

Thank you.

400405 ▶▶▶▶▶ Carrie, replying to Basics, 4, #582 of 1279 🔗

There is a difference between naturally occurring fluoride and the version in toothpastes, which is a by-product of the aluminium industry.

400298 ▶▶ bluemoon, replying to sam s.j., 8, #583 of 1279 🔗

Do we know which water authorities are already adding fluoride to the water they supply I wonder.
If Thames Water are doing so, it might explain the lack of intelligence displayed in Westminster.

400750 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to sam s.j., 1, #585 of 1279 🔗

Is it to increase sales of bottled water?

400244 Basics, replying to Basics, 26, #586 of 1279 🔗

The discussion surrounding no alcohol in pubs following from the top of the page needs realise this is a hobby-horse of Devi Sridhar.

Whoever is feeding the venom to Devi Sridhar that she then pukes forth onto the world I don’t know. About 10 or eleven years ago she wrote a paper about her requirement to get rid of alcohol. In the paper she calls for UN to act as it is the only body, she says, that can use international law to effect such a ban. She was about 28 yrs at the time of writing.

It’s an easy enough search to find the paper.

Anyone doubting this is a globalist plan need only to consider the rationale for banning off sales. You drink, you stop socially distancing – what kind of lemon is that.

A future pleasure will be to see Devi put on trial for crimes against humanity. HRH terms this pleasure before anyone chimes in pleasure is a sadistic word to use.

Important video, 21st century Nuremburg trials.

400258 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Basics, 19, #587 of 1279 🔗

A fascinating fact is that data is suggesting that the sociopathic fanatics and their lunatic measures have done far more to increase alcohol consumption than pubs ever have!

400285 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to Basics, 10, #588 of 1279 🔗

As I keep saying, The Devil Sridhar – the most dangerous and demented woman in the UK

400345 ▶▶▶ PW, replying to Draper233, 6, #589 of 1279 🔗

Chief adviser to the second most dangerous and demented wummin!!

400362 ▶▶▶▶ Basics, replying to PW, 4, #590 of 1279 🔗

I understand what you’re saying. It important to remove that camoflage. Devi is deeply involve at UK level and impacting millions world wide in her work directly.

She is an operative much more widely spread than McKranks poodle, how she has been set up for us.

400812 ▶▶▶▶▶ ekd, replying to Basics, 2, #591 of 1279 🔗

There is a coordinated, psychopathic network of “zerocoviders” who are out to destroy our way of living. The Irish branch is here: https://www.isagcovid19.org/ . There are similar cells in most advanced countries.

400245 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 10, #592 of 1279 🔗

1 of 2

 Water Fluoridation Dangers to Health

Internet Resources Where You Can Learn More

400246 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Victoria, 9, #593 of 1279 🔗

2 of 2

  • Moms2B Avoid Fluoride : Help spread the word to expecting parents to avoid fluoride during pregnancy due to potential harm to the fetus.
  • Health Effects Database : FAN’s database sets forth the scientific basis for concerns regarding the safety and effectiveness of ingesting fluorides. They also have a Study Tracker with the most up-to-date and comprehensive source for studies on fluoride’s effects on human health.
400249 Bill Hickling, replying to Bill Hickling, 9, #594 of 1279 🔗

I cannot spare the time to read Snowdon’s rebuttal word for word. But what I would like someone to put to the lockdown fanatics is the set of lies right at the start of this nonsense when Ferguson’s modelling assumed everyone to be equally susceptible and that there was no prior or innate immunity.
As far as I know we are still operating on this basis despite the mountain of anecdotal evidence that even old and vulnerable people do not catch it when exposed to it and, of course, it is a mild disease for the majority.

400275 ▶▶ Will, replying to Bill Hickling, 5, #595 of 1279 🔗

Everyone knows of households where some got it and others didn’t.

400332 ▶▶▶ Bill Hickling, replying to Will, #596 of 1279 🔗

Exactly! I do.

400437 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Will, 3, #597 of 1279 🔗

I don’t know a single person who has had it.

400617 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Jaguarpig, 4, #598 of 1279 🔗

I know of quite a few people who got sick with some cold or flu which some medic told them was covid-19. that is the most I am prepared to concede. none of them died, or came even remotely close to it. most of them just had a cold.

400908 ▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Jaguarpig, 1, #599 of 1279 🔗

I’ve just had it. A DiL and DS’s ex have had it.
My symptoms were so mild I didn’t realise I had it till I noticed I’d lost my sense of smell. The women had the equivalent of a few days with flu.

400255 Liz F, replying to Liz F, 30, #600 of 1279 🔗

Boris has now locked the country down three times, on each occasion his excuse being “we don’t have a choice”. Of course he has a choice, he’s just been abdicating responsibility for the past year. This kind of attitude is pathetic and unforgiveable from a so-called leader. Lead or leave Boris, for everyone’s sake.

400272 ▶▶ Will, replying to Liz F, 6, #601 of 1279 🔗

At least he has been consistent in that he has locked down the country three times and every time “infections” were falling before the lockdowns started.

400306 ▶▶▶ Liz F, replying to Will, 9, #602 of 1279 🔗

And now when even scientific advisors are saying it’s safe to open primary schools before 8th March he’s ignoring them. So much for “following the science”.

400259 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 10, #603 of 1279 🔗

There’s some good discussion about Zero Covid relating to Freddie Sayers Unherd article:


An excellent read. It gives a good feel for what will likely be the major societal conflict ahead of us. At the risk of being blunt, #ZeroCovid is not compatible with the individual rights and freedoms that characterise postwar democracies.

400269 ▶▶ Will, replying to Nobody2021, 5, #604 of 1279 🔗

And it is completely unachievable because people need to eat. The Chinese never did it anyway it is one of the biggest con tricks in history.

400263 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Victoria, 4, #606 of 1279 🔗

page 2

picture dental fluorosis

400297 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Victoria, 5, #607 of 1279 🔗

Don’t think that’s fluorosis, what with the lesions being only on the crowns of the centrals. What I suspect has happened there is that the kid fell over, traumatised the decidious incisors, joggled them upwards, the decidious roots knocked agin’ the developing crowns of the permanent centrals, produced those characteristic patches of hyperplasia on them, the centrals erupt looking like that.
I’ve always been opposed to artificial fluoridation of the water supply- told my patients so- for reasons which are now, apparently, starting to become revealed.

400267 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Victoria, 2, #608 of 1279 🔗

Can we please not get sidetracked by the fluoride issue?

400279 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to RickH, 1, #609 of 1279 🔗

I agree with you . It’s classic distraction tactic

400289 ▶▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Harry Chara, 12, #610 of 1279 🔗

Wish I could agree with you.

At the start of the lockdowns in April last year, topics such as mass vaccination and health passports were regarded as ‘distraction tactics’ – now it is reality

400294 ▶▶▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to Victoria, 11, #611 of 1279 🔗

You are correct. This whole situation is an unfolding one. Mentioning fluoride is just the next step. We must observe each step and not ignore anything as a distraction.

400301 ▶▶▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Victoria, 3, #612 of 1279 🔗

I meant to NOT get sidetracked from what is important NOW !! Vaxx and Health Passports were never in doubt all I’m saying is this Flouride bollox isn’t a problem now we need to pull ourselves out of this Virus Scam

400338 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Harry Chara, -11, #613 of 1279 🔗

I’m with you, Harry.

But then almost everything Victoria has posted here has been utter nonsense, so it’s easy to filter out.

400282 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to RickH, 15, #614 of 1279 🔗

Totally disagree – this is a major issue – potential of medicating the population via the water supply causing more ill health.

People will also absorb this industrial chemical through their skin when having a bath or a shower. People with chemical sensitivities and those with skin issues such as eczema and psoriasis will be badly affected.

The millionaires and MPs will be able to install whole house filter systems and the rest not

400302 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Victoria, 6, #615 of 1279 🔗

Sorry – but the more hares that this site runs, the more the focus diminishes.

400308 ▶▶▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to RickH, 2, #616 of 1279 🔗

I agree mate

400337 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, 4, #617 of 1279 🔗

Covid19 is the distraction dude.

400304 ▶▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Victoria, 1, #618 of 1279 🔗

Fair enough and I hear you Vic . For me I am not gonna lose sleep over it at the moment

400399 ▶▶▶▶ Carrie, replying to Victoria, 5, #619 of 1279 🔗

Agree – it is mass-medication without consent..

400333 ▶▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to RickH, #620 of 1279 🔗

Some hope.

400334 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, 1, #621 of 1279 🔗

Why do you think we’re going to forget covid19?


400430 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to RickH, #622 of 1279 🔗

Much of the water in England is already fluoridated. It’s easy to look up your post code and find if yours is. Some naturally high, some added.
Wales and Scotland are not though.

400554 ▶▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to ituex, 2, #623 of 1279 🔗

41) The Chemicals Used To Fluoridate Water Are Not Pharmaceutical Grade

Instead, they largely come from the wet scrubbing systems of the phosphate fertilizer industry. These chemicals (90% of which are sodium fluorosilicate and fluorosilicic acid ), are classified hazardous wastes contaminated withvarious impurities.

Recent testing by the National Sanitation Foundation suggest that the levels of arsenic in these silicon fluorides are relatively high (up to 1.6 ppb after dilution into public water) and of potential concern (NSF 2000 and Wang 2000). Arsenic is a known human carcinogen for which there is no safe level. This one contaminant alone could be increasing cancer rates–and unnecessarily so.


400367 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Victoria, 3, #624 of 1279 🔗

Easily solved – stop drinking tap water.

400423 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Awkward Git, 2, #625 of 1279 🔗

The shite is undrinkable in Notts smells like a very bad 1970s swimming pool.

400649 ▶▶▶ rose, replying to Awkward Git, #626 of 1279 🔗

And stop having showers and baths

400396 ▶▶ Carrie, replying to Victoria, 5, #627 of 1279 🔗

The bit in today’s bulletin about fluoride seriously stressed me – the dangers are well-known and avoiding fluoridated water once it’s there is difficult and expensive (hence why they want to do it..)

Also, I have not been here for a few days, but it seems this site (or at least the bulletin part, ie our host here) is pro-vaccine? Why????

400265 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 56, #628 of 1279 🔗

Two of the Bro’s just boxed in the covid Marshalls car, fucker won’t be bothering any body today…

400270 ▶▶ Christopher, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 10, #629 of 1279 🔗

Excellent work

400271 rockoman, replying to rockoman, 5, #630 of 1279 🔗


Cormaan-Drosten retrction request has been rejected by Eurosurveillance.

400483 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to rockoman, 4, #631 of 1279 🔗

Mckernan posted a number of screenshot last night how a number of the points they raised about the Dorsten paper, were used by one of the reviewers to discredit a paper by Andrew Wakefield. For example, they focused on Wakefields use of 35CTs but give Dorsten a by ball for 45CTs. It goes on. Many arguments made to derail Wakefield but OK for Dorsten.


400288 masksniffer22, replying to masksniffer22, -2, #632 of 1279 🔗

If lockdowns do nothing or do little, there must be cryptic superspreaders at large that lockdowns do not suppress. Maybe shop assistants or shop doors or long aerosol plumes. There must be both an upper limit on the infectivity, or else how did Sweden escape annihilation, and also a lower limit on how much suppression can be achieved, short of absolute quarantine. All lockdowns have fallen into the wide gap between these two.

400356 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to masksniffer22, 7, #633 of 1279 🔗

Perhaps social contact is largely irrelevant.

400292 Will, replying to Will, 6, #634 of 1279 🔗

I am not a conspiracy theorist but a quick question for any biologists. Would it be possible to engineer a virus that naturally disappeared after a period of time? I am not for a second suggesting anyone might have done this, I am merely ruminating on the possibility that somebody could do this.

400328 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Will, 13, #635 of 1279 🔗

Why bother? Just don’t formally isolate anything using well established procedures then use a test to detect a theoretical corona virus. You can’t & don’t need to move past the fact PCR is fraudulent! It simply isn’t fit for purpose. The rest apart from the death count is fiction.

400613 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Anti_socialist, 5, #636 of 1279 🔗

exactly! – they wouldn’t risk a real virus, at least not a particularly dangerous one, because they might not be able to control it enough to stop it reaching them or their loved ones. far safer and simpler to go for the psyop, which is what they’ve done

400295 Chicot, replying to Chicot, 46, #637 of 1279 🔗

The smearing of Mike Yeadon has shown, if we didn’t already know it, that the people we are up against are evil and there is little they wouldn’t stoop to, to silence dissent. Yeadon was a real thorn in their side as his background meant he couldn’t just be dismissed as a “crank”. So they had to come up with another angle – hack his twitter account, post some ludicrous islamaphobic tweets and then call him a racist. It’s their go-to play – remember all the attention to a fascist flag supposedly appearing at one of the anti-lockdown demos in London? Fits perfectly with the labelling of all anti-lockdowners as “far-right”. And now we have the suggestion of people turning up at your doorstep to “persuade” you to take the vaccine. There is something very sinister going on.

400317 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Chicot, 24, #638 of 1279 🔗

Its what they always do, its SOP of the deep state, if they can’t dispute a whistle blowers facts they discredit his character. Its usually a sexual slur or spurious charge or some kind of financial corruption. I’d be surprised if Yeadon didn’t realise what he was getting into. He’s a brave man so are many others because this is a fight for our future.

400352 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Anti_socialist, 12, #639 of 1279 🔗

It formed part of the plot line in the original series of Utopia. The authorities trying to track down one of the characters put out a news alert that he was wanted for child sexual assault. That series is beginning to look so prophetic it’s scary.

400363 ▶▶▶▶ Christopher, replying to leggy, 6, #640 of 1279 🔗

Re : Utopia , The people clamouring to be protected by a Vaccine from the ” Russian Flu ” quite prophetic .

400414 ▶▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Christopher, 2, #641 of 1279 🔗

Where is Jessica Hyde?

400571 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Christopher, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 1, #642 of 1279 🔗

As long as Wankock doesn’t send Arby and Lee out to deal with us dissenters . 😉

400606 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Anti_socialist, 4, #643 of 1279 🔗

yes, if the twitter hacking fails to keep him quiet, next it will be prostitutes pissing on him in a hotel, or an enormous amount of money mysteriously turning up in his bag

400361 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Chicot, 3, #644 of 1279 🔗

If they turn up at my doorstep I will invite them in to watch all the videos of Drs advising not to get the vaccine!

400365 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to Chicot, 12, #645 of 1279 🔗

I’ve made comments on this website defending Muslims from barely veiled slurs on the rare occasions they’ve appeared.

However, let’s just suppose Yeadon is Islamaphobic. Would this make him any less credible in relation to his views about Covid? Absolutely not. I could still completely agree with him on one issue, and completely disagree on another.

It doesn’t surprise me that the likes of Monbiot believe that there is only one truth, because he’s effectively a totalitarian.

I’m just waiting for him to assert that vegetarianism must be wrong because Hitler was a vegetarian. That’s the level of logic we’re dealing with.

400376 ▶▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Draper233, 2, #646 of 1279 🔗

Let’s face it – its not even about beliefs, it’s about speech codes. The likes of Monbigot just want others to obey and comply.

400382 ▶▶▶▶ Alice, replying to Katabasis, #647 of 1279 🔗

First, we need to know what the term “Islamophobia” means. As far as I know, there’s no legal definition of it.

400837 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Alice, #648 of 1279 🔗

It denotes someone who has an irrational fear of Islam.

400401 ▶▶▶ Chicot, replying to Draper233, 4, #649 of 1279 🔗

You’re right that it wouldn’t make his views on Covid any less credible but the tweets in question are absolutely laughable. Even if Yeadon has these views I very much doubt he would express them in this way and certainly not at a time when he knows the establishment is gunning for him.

400836 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Draper233, #650 of 1279 🔗

Hitler was an animal lover and so was vehemently opposed to animal cruelty. He especially liked dogs.

400377 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Chicot, 4, #651 of 1279 🔗

I really think the ‘far right lunatic fringe’ lone wolf false flag attack is on the cards. The seeds are being sown.

400411 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to stefarm, 2, #652 of 1279 🔗

Let’s hope they succeed fat pig , witless, unbalanced, specy cunt and van cunt die you traitor bastards

400609 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Jaguarpig, #653 of 1279 🔗

I couldn’t have put it better myself

400602 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Chicot, 3, #654 of 1279 🔗

anyone still out there who believes this is ‘just about a virus’? hello?

400757 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Chicot, #655 of 1279 🔗

I shall waste as much of their time as I can. They will hear as many objections as I can muster. They will learn about Nuremberg. Finally, they will leave with an armful of leaflets and educational material – whether they like it or not.

400831 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Chicot, 1, #656 of 1279 🔗

For the sake of argument. assume that the allegations made against Yeadon are completely true: how is that relevant to his opinions on the virus and responses to it? Calling him a racist is a complete non sequitur.

400299 lost in inner space, replying to lost in inner space, 15, #657 of 1279 🔗

FERGUSON!! This man is starting to look like the sandwich board nutter standing on the street corner shouting ‘the end is nigh’.

Didn’t the original model predict deaths under full NPIs around 250k? We’ve had 100k over the entire year, so the model overestimated cfr by roughly x2.5. If you add in the extra non-covid deaths from LD then the model was more accurate, but I don’t think SAGE realize other people who are not and haven’t yet been covid patients (about 80% of us) exist. Impossible to know whose life was ‘saved’, but maybe overall around 50-100k?

400303 ▶▶ jb12, replying to lost in inner space, 12, #658 of 1279 🔗

We haven’t had 100k dead from Covid.

400312 ▶▶▶ lost in inner space, replying to jb12, 3, #659 of 1279 🔗

I agree, but for the sake of arguing about how many were ‘saved’ in the official narrative. (I meant this comment in reply to someone else who asked how many were saved!)

400311 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to lost in inner space, 16, #660 of 1279 🔗

should have stuck to the original pandemic plan and WHO guidance from 2019

best not make policy on the fly when you are clueless – that’s what plans are for

Neil Ferguson should have been told to go away, write an academic paper and it would be considered for the updated pandemic response plan sometime after 2050

400342 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to steve_w, 10, #661 of 1279 🔗

Actually – given his record, Ferguson should have been handed his P45.

400350 ▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to RickH, 5, #662 of 1279 🔗

Or should not have had the position in the first place, but then again his is a mate of Gates

400314 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to lost in inner space, 6, #663 of 1279 🔗

Anybody can be a modeller. Keep crying wolf and eventually it may seem as if you got something right and you can then say “I told you so”.

400319 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Nobody2021, 9, #664 of 1279 🔗

Ferguson shows you never even have to be right ever

400322 ▶▶▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to steve_w, 2, #665 of 1279 🔗

It’s like a horoscope, make it general enough that for some people it will be true. Then you can claim horoscopes work whilst ignoring all the times they’re wrong.

400346 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Nobody2021, 5, #666 of 1279 🔗

It’s a bit like being a weather forecaster isn’t it. One of the few jobs where you can routinely get things wrong and retain employment.

400478 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to leggy, 2, #667 of 1279 🔗

Weather forecasting is pretty reliable these days.
But if Pantsdown said we were in for a dry summer, I’d build an ark.

400394 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Nobody2021, #668 of 1279 🔗

As long as you have the right mates

400591 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Nobody2021, #669 of 1279 🔗

A stopped clock would make him look bad.

400330 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to lost in inner space, 4, #670 of 1279 🔗

Request to Ferguson:

If you ever try your hand at bookmaking, could you please, please, please offer your odds to me first?

400395 ▶▶ Mayo, replying to lost in inner space, -1, #672 of 1279 🔗

Didn’t the original model predict deaths under full NPIs around 250k?

No. Nothing like it. Try reading the paper.

I’m not defending Ferguson but his model produces a range of projections (~20k up to ~500k) depending on which interventions were implemented.

400440 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Mayo, 2, #673 of 1279 🔗

did he make any predictions for Sweden if they did not lockdown?

400473 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Mayo, 3, #674 of 1279 🔗

Take the 500k. That looks absolutely insane looking back on the last 12 months and all we now know about lockdowns and their relative effects once a virus has taken hold.

Someone smarter than me would have all sorts of empirical data, which include the fact that infections were peaking before lockdowns, to show mathematically how insane it is.

Then you’d back that up with comparative examples based on the empirical data we now have.

What kind of science is he conducting? I don’t recognise it and yet it seems to hold sway over my entire life.

400315 AidanR, replying to AidanR, 24, #675 of 1279 🔗

It’d be a terrible terrible thing if some chaps who knew where Ferguson does his shopping etc were to drive by in a Transit van, bundle him into the back and deposit him naked and bound on the Scunthorpe bypass in the early hours of Sunday morning.

Definitely don’t do that. It would be illegal, if not immoral.

400323 ▶▶ NorthumbrianNomad, replying to AidanR, 5, #676 of 1279 🔗

He’d probably enjoy that.

400327 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to NorthumbrianNomad, 9, #677 of 1279 🔗

Hypotheses like this one need testing.

400344 ▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to AidanR, 12, #678 of 1279 🔗

Deposit him naked and bound wearing concrete boots and dumped in a disused quary somewhere in the uk..

400578 ▶▶▶ iansn, replying to Bruce Reynolds, #679 of 1279 🔗

or north wales, 600 ft deep

400391 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to AidanR, 3, #680 of 1279 🔗

Just kill him

400590 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to AidanR, 4, #681 of 1279 🔗

A million cattle are waiting patiently for him in Hell. The Aberdeen Anguses have pushed the way to the front of the queue.

400318 Peter Thompson, replying to Peter Thompson, 56, #682 of 1279 🔗

The article written by the hospice nurse, was for me one of the most well written and accurate articles I have read ,putting the current events into perspective . It could have only been written by a highly intelligent person with decades of experience under their belt. They say wisdom comes with age.

We live in a world today of fear, sensationalism, and terror propaganda. We have lost our religious faith and have yet to find a replacement.

This article reminded me of two medical events of my experience. I recall having visited a patient in a care home with advanced dementia who was doubly incontinent and had been given antibiotics for their chest infection which were not effective. I then went to phone the NOK who lived 300 miles away to discuss what the best was for this person who was clearly dying. The NOK demanded I admit this patient to the DGH otherwise they would be complaining to the ombudsman , GMC, papers etc. Cowardly I gave in and the patient went to hospital where they died 24 hours later in a corridor. on a trolley after numerous blood tests and x rays.

I also recall an elderly revolving door patient who was seriously unwell and after being ” saved” again was sent home to live in their bed sit with carers 4 x a day to wash, dress move etc. They subsequently ended their own pain in a manner which left me with mental scars.

When did society in the western world become infantalised ?

400324 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to Peter Thompson, 16, #683 of 1279 🔗

It started in America, with their infantilised euphemisms and circumlocutions.

The words you use shape the way you think.

Exposing us all day and night to it by social media is what caused the landslide.

400433 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to AidanR, 8, #684 of 1279 🔗

When necessary I usually say that somebody “died”. Occasionally “passed away” is an acceptable euphemism, but I dislike “passed on” and I hate “passed”, which is an Americanism now becoming commoner in the UK.

401004 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Edward, #685 of 1279 🔗

Or ‘we have lost X’, as if we carelessly dropped X behind the sofa.

401003 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to AidanR, 1, #686 of 1279 🔗

Have you read Evelyn Waugh’s The Loved One ?It’s a tragicomedy which nailed, at a quite early stage, that sickly American desire to negate the reality of death.

400336 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Peter Thompson, 16, #687 of 1279 🔗

“We have lost our religious faith and have yet to find a replacement.”

People have. It’s Covid – supported by the main churches, and just another in the long train of superstition.

400357 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Peter Thompson, 6, #688 of 1279 🔗

Started with the introduction of the nanny state and risk adverse, danger to be avoided at all cost HSE culture and blossomed from there.

400383 ▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Awkward Git, 6, #689 of 1279 🔗

As well Thatcher opening the door for ambulance-chasing solicitors. Does anyone remember Mcdonald paying £5m for a customer scalded by hot coffee, and then the deluge of moronic statements accompanying food&drink?

400393 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Peter Thompson, 8, #690 of 1279 🔗

It is a brilliantly written article isn’t it. So much compassion mixed with common sense and thoughtfulness about end of life care.

Thanks for sharing your experiences also.

400512 ▶▶ R G, replying to Peter Thompson, 8, #691 of 1279 🔗

The replacement is the NHS. Its flag flies on top of churches, murals of angel-winged nurses and paramedics are painted on shop shutters and sides of buildings up and down the country. We clap for this Brahmin caste, donate to charities which keep them in junk food, Amazon wishlists and electronic gadgets then give discounts and privileged access to the few shops that remain open. Yet how can anyone be surprised? What’s even the point of the CoE anymore?

401005 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to R G, #692 of 1279 🔗

There is absolutely no point in the Covidian Church of England. They worship the devil. Literally.

400320 Draper233, replying to Draper233, 33, #693 of 1279 🔗

O’Brien v Heneghan

First half: O’Brien publishes a website accusing Heneghan of spreading dangerous misinformation

HT Score: O’Brien 1 Heneghan 0

Second half: Heneghan offers to publicly debate the issues with O’Brien. O’Brien refuses using the pathetic excuse of not wanting to give Heneghan publicity.

FT Score: O’Brien 1 Heneghan 5

O’Brien needs to go back to low level local politics where he might get away with pushing people around who can’t fight back. He’s already shown that he’s way out of his depth at a higher level, although very fitting for the worst Government in UK history so he may do well.

400349 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Draper233, 6, #694 of 1279 🔗

It wasn’t a debate, was it?

It was just a pathetic and dim little pole-climber sayin ‘Giyuz a job, Boris, me old mate’

400355 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Draper233, 17, #695 of 1279 🔗

Neither O’Brien nor his website even attempted to give a rebuttal to my e-mails last week.

He has nothing to back-up his stance except rhetoric.

He’s a useful idiot.

400463 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Awkward Git, 1, #696 of 1279 🔗

Cebm closed down and replaced by Reuters Fact Check

400321 CHArtWell, replying to CHArtWell, 12, #697 of 1279 🔗

Four days after receiving the Astra Zeneca vaccine my wife was feeling so unwell she spoke with a doctor (name unknown) at the surgery where we are both registered. The interaction she found congenial, and was initially amused when the doctor sought to reassure her. He said there was nothing for her to worry about: the side effects she had described indicated “monkey flu” derived from a constituent of the vaccine. I say “initially” because afterwards our reaction was: Hang On! No one told us this “monkey flu” might result; moreover there is nothing about it in the leaflet handed out prior to vaccination – nor online, so far as I can determine.

400508 ▶▶ thinkaboutit, replying to CHArtWell, 4, #698 of 1279 🔗

Has she started scratching her armpits and eating bananas from the wrong end?

400325 RickH, replying to RickH, 17, #699 of 1279 🔗

I was just having a laugh at the idea of Mr Toad’s hero/model being Churchill :

Boris has suddenly become one of the most fretful, cautious people in the Cabinet.”

I reckon he’d have a problem being Chamberlain’s pet poodle.

400576 ▶▶ iansn, replying to RickH, 1, #700 of 1279 🔗

obviously long covid has addled his brain, nothing to do with Nut Nuts and the sprog. they are only thinking about how to stay in power not how to resolve this confected clusterfuck

400586 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to RickH, #701 of 1279 🔗

Suddenly on March 23rd 2020?

400331 AidanR, replying to AidanR, 8, #702 of 1279 🔗

Only one tune of the day needed today.

A Pub With No Beer – Slim Dusty


400358 ▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to AidanR, #703 of 1279 🔗

Any chance of it being re-released as a download single?

400348 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 28, #704 of 1279 🔗

The other day there was a reported 915 deaths attributed to Covid but in TRUTH 885 had underlying health problems so in TRUTH 30 people died of Covid and nothing else, so taking that as an average,(3.278%) that is 3,278 out of the so called 100,000.

400375 ▶▶ arfurmo, replying to Fingerache Philip, 4, #705 of 1279 🔗

I think the counterargument is that Mrs Miggins who was suffering from X may have lived another 2 years but Covid almost certainly finished her off.

400410 ▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to arfurmo, 3, #706 of 1279 🔗

Even that is questionable since the average age at death with Covid is the same within a year as the age without Covid. In fact with Covid lives are a year longer.

400412 ▶▶ peyrole, replying to Fingerache Philip, 4, #707 of 1279 🔗

The actual number of deaths with covid and without comorbidities is reported by ONS/NHS each reporting period. Its currently just over 4,000 since start of 2020.

400424 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #708 of 1279 🔗


400370 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 4, #709 of 1279 🔗

Ferguson’s next attempt at modelling – how many will be saved by vaccinations (not covid specific but generally):


400388 ▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to Awkward Git, 9, #710 of 1279 🔗

Thanks AG, not planning to read it fully, but I scrolled down to the only bit that is relevant, and highlighted what is the sentence that should alarm anyone:

Declaration of competing interests This publication is authored by members of the Vaccine Impact Modelling Consortium (VIMC, http://www.vaccineimpact.org ). VIMC is jointly funded by Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, and by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The views expressed are those of the authors and not necessarily those of the Consortium or its funders. The funders were given the opportunity to review this paper prior to publication , but the final decision on the content of the publication was taken by the authors. Consortium members received funding from Gavi and BMGF via VIMC during the course of the study (see funding statement above).

400462 ▶▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, 4, #711 of 1279 🔗

Noticed that as well – same old names financing the “research”.

400480 ▶▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Awkward Git, 8, #712 of 1279 🔗

Neil Furgusson is the UK Acting Director of GAVI Secretariat. Fingers in so many pies and pockets probably getting deeper with the weight of ill gotten gains.

400422 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Awkward Git, 4, #713 of 1279 🔗

You could pull most people off the street to predict better than him. Of course though he is paid to set an agenda and the media is paid to project it. Bunter if he had any courage would call him out but he hasn’t so he dare not do so.

400381 Basics, replying to Basics, 4, #714 of 1279 🔗

Localrag update observation.

The online Live propaganda outlet has been extremely poor throughout, it has boasted millions of page views, probably due to other local rag outlets being paywalled. Over the past few days the Live rag locally has had a tiny turnover of new stories. A decreased rate in fresh propaganda.

400413 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Basics, 4, #715 of 1279 🔗

Localrag has ceased to be local and is run by the Commie Mirror group, with the exterminate CCP Virus agenda. I have a feeling employees are ordered to spew their bile through the online arm of the localrag Mirror.

400386 Smelly Melly, replying to Smelly Melly, 6, #716 of 1279 🔗

Does anybody know an undertaker and what they are going to do with all the money they have earned during this bumper year?

400402 ▶▶ alw, replying to Smelly Melly, 13, #717 of 1279 🔗

Undertakers reportedly no busier than usual.

400403 ▶▶ Carrie, replying to Smelly Melly, 4, #718 of 1279 🔗

A survey of undertakers and their impressions of the last year would actually be quite interesting..

400690 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Carrie, 2, #719 of 1279 🔗

A substitute is simply all-cause mortality – which similarly shows little unusual since May.

400431 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Smelly Melly, 10, #720 of 1279 🔗

I work for an funeral directors. A large spike very evident in May. That’s it.

They will have not really made a massive amount from that however. Because of all the rules, funeral packages are now only rock bottom basic. Nobody wants the full thing so their profits have taken a hit that way.

400531 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Smelly Melly, 4, #721 of 1279 🔗

My mother died in December and her funeral was 10 days later so no sign of a backlog of dead bodies waiting to be cremated!

400390 JME, replying to JME, 18, #722 of 1279 🔗

I know the MHRA are currently not releasing information on the Covid “vaccines” mortality & side effect rates (& not sure I would necessarily trust whatever they do decide to let us know) but if anyone has relatives or friends who have had any side effects after “vaccination” I would encourage reporting via the yellow card system (it does not have to be a medical professional who does it). I appreciate it may not make a lot of difference but lots of reports may put some pressure on them & may come out in full if/when there is any public enquiry.

400404 ▶▶ peyrole, replying to JME, 3, #723 of 1279 🔗

yes they are, I posted link yesterday.

400416 ▶▶▶ JME, replying to peyrole, #724 of 1279 🔗

Sorry- missed that!

400428 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to peyrole, 2, #725 of 1279 🔗
400557 ▶▶ David Ashton, replying to JME, 5, #727 of 1279 🔗

A nephew of mine, who is an A&E doctor at a hospital in Ireland. A fit young guy in his late 20’s, caught Covid in the summer, had very mild symptoms, a tickly cough nothing more. Because of his job he was prioritised for the Pfizer vaccine. Had severe headaches after first jab, was bed ridden after second jab with flu like symptoms, off work for four days.

400697 ▶▶▶ John David, replying to David Ashton, 1, #728 of 1279 🔗

They have been concerns voice some medical practitioners that giving the vaccine to people who’ve already had covid-19 may cause a problem with an overreaction of the immune system. More so in the young. I think Prof.Tim Spicer the ZOE project has mentioned this recently.

400397 The Covid Kid, replying to The Covid Kid, 29, #729 of 1279 🔗

Does anyone fancy joining me for a world record attempt at the largest group hug ever? (No masks obviously!)

400445 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to The Covid Kid, 6, #730 of 1279 🔗


Imagine if one year ago
1 today we had all met and licked each other. No lockdown after that. A better world.

400524 ▶▶ Janette, replying to The Covid Kid, 2, #731 of 1279 🔗

Yes what a good idea

400398 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 34, #732 of 1279 🔗

Another one of our customers has been harassed by the police for sitting on a bench in the town square after taking her dog for a walk. Bastards.

Time for a flashmob of all the town’s benches by our dog-walking mates from the ‘Book Club’, I think.

400487 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to kh1485, 7, #733 of 1279 🔗

Unessential seating is one of the gems of this time.Whether a scotch egg constituted a substantial meal used to be my favourite absurdity.

400495 ▶▶ Liz F, replying to kh1485, 7, #734 of 1279 🔗

Yes, we dog-walkers are a dangerous breed. Hub and I take our two hounds out twice a day, contaminating the hedgerows and trees with our filthy germs. And if we kept the dogs indoors and didn’t exercise them we’d have the RSPCA knocking on our door accusing us of cruelty to animals. You just can’t win.

400417 Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, 19, #735 of 1279 🔗

So dePiffle is keen to avoid another mockdown, by just keeping us in this one?!

Does anyone here believe his cautiousness act?

400429 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Cheezilla, 6, #736 of 1279 🔗


400442 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Cheezilla, 9, #737 of 1279 🔗

Caution would not have produced the most reckless medical experiment in history.

400464 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Cheezilla, 3, #738 of 1279 🔗

Who says he’s keen to avoid another one & why would anyone believe the flip flopper.

400482 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Cheezilla, 11, #739 of 1279 🔗

All along Boris has played good cop.Maybe that is getting stale so he’s playing cautious cop.
If I was outside getting wet and the government told me it was raining I still wouldn’t believe them.That is my level of trust in this regime.

400500 ▶▶▶ TheClone, replying to jonathan Palmer, 1, #740 of 1279 🔗

He played the stupid cop!

400558 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Cheezilla, 5, #741 of 1279 🔗

We all know that he would happily slam us back into another lockdown, not matter how quickly or slowly this one is eased. Last summer he said we wouldn’t lock down again, it was the nuclear option. He then proceeded to use it for most of the winter.

I do believe it actually, I think he’s become petrified of being blamed for every single person who dies, which of course has come about because he told us that the government, and people following the government rules, would prevent death. Therefore he took responsibility for bringing stopping death, so he can’t now admit that it’s impossible.

400870 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #742 of 1279 🔗

That proves he’s a total idiot!

400419 mhcp, replying to mhcp, 27, #743 of 1279 🔗

It has to be said again and again: a model is not evidence nor is it useful in any applicable way except if it is approaching an emulation where the inputs are tightly controlled. Even then it is treated with caution.

The problem with modelling is that is all too easy to add more and more tweaks or statistical methods when you should be looking at the quality of what goes in.

Errors propagate in both data and thinking.

I’ve written models myself in various physics fields.

Ferguson has been wrong all his career but not in the way you think. He produces orders of magnitude ranges for his projections which should immediately negate their use. A good prediction/projection is within the same magnitude range, often with a 20% variance.

Ferguson’s model outputs are like saying it will rain anywhere between 3 to 3600 days in the next 10 years. And thinks that’s useful.

To make matters worse then he goes on TV and talks up the more extreme cases without ever having a caveat to say this is all hypothetical and should not be taken as possibility. Without ever thinking about the ethics of that.

He is trying to bypass the standard processes that make lots of things safe to use.

Another key point is that those in the media and most to the public to be fair don’t know that a model’s outputs are not scientific fact. That you still have to do the hard stuff or measuring things and testing things.

But if you are of a certain persuasion, often those who hate ugly reality, a model is a dream machine and it helps you stay afloat on your own oxygen of delusion.

You can see this in the Twitter posts of the cogniscenti and the patronising idiocy of Hancock, Whitty and Valance.

In my mind I think the damage done to science now isn’t going to be restored. The climate models will be next to take a battering once the scales have been lifted.

Probably why it seems there’s desparation to stuff a lot of new laws and schemes in before the unwashed realise the con.

400527 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to mhcp, 7, #744 of 1279 🔗

Doing what Bill needs him to do.

400548 ▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to mhcp, 19, #745 of 1279 🔗

Very interesting mhcp, we were just discussing something similar over lunch with the junior TTs. Both me and Mr TT are natural science graduates, with PhDs in an area of social science. I use qualitative datasets, whereas Mr TT uses quant datasets, and is an expert statistical and simulation modeler (he has advised government and major firms). We were discussing the ‘genius’ academics we know, and who are also known to governments. They are significantly better mathematicians and academics than we are, but both of us have pulled apart their major contributions based on the datasets and handling of evidence. Professor Ferguson, in our view, is not in the same camp as these ‘genius’ academics, and it is very easy to pull apart his modeling. Mr TT said back in March that Ferguson’s model – which he recreated in a single cell of an Excel spreadsheet by multiplying four variables together – would not pass muster for a PhD student. Ferguson is unimpressive by Oxford standards and is no more than a political actor in our opinion.

400869 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, #746 of 1279 🔗

He’s definitely a shill.

400680 ▶▶ RickH, replying to mhcp, 3, #747 of 1279 🔗

A good analysis, mhcp.

The one thing I’d add is the disuse of the most basic of statistical techniques :

LOOK at the fucking data at every stage of any analysis and from every angle.

If it doesn’t look and smell right, it quite probably isn’t.

400818 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to mhcp, 1, #748 of 1279 🔗

those in the media and most to the public to be fair don’t know that a model’s outputs are not scientific fact.

Anyone who is literate (never mind science) knows that the outcomes of computer models are not facts.

400420 Mayo, replying to Mayo, 12, #749 of 1279 🔗

Will Jones (guest post above) writes

The second question is why the ONS differs so hugely from ZOE when they are modelling essentially the same thing – namely, Covid infections in the community.

Er .. NO – they aren’t modelling the same thing.

Will goes on to speculate about school infections

Yet this school epidemic simply doesn’t exist in the ZOE data. Is it because ZOE data are based on symptoms, whereas the ONS data are based on positive PCR tests (with Ct cycles possibly up to 45) so will not exclude false positives or those no longer sick or infectious?


400435 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to Mayo, #750 of 1279 🔗

I agree that with different variables going into each model it is not a surprise that we would get different results. But could you explain what you think ONS and ZOE are trying to investigate if it is not prevalence in the community – I think I’m being a bit slow!

400551 ▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Charlie Blue, 1, #751 of 1279 🔗

I think Mayo means that Zoe is only estimating symptomatic cases i.e. people who report symptoms and then take a test. ONS test the population randomly, symptoms or no symptoms, and count any positive result as a case.

400599 ▶▶▶▶ Will, replying to A. Contrarian, #752 of 1279 🔗

I am sure the FreeCumbria will confirm that the ONS are no longer undertaking a random survey and haven’t been since November.

400682 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Mayo, 1, #753 of 1279 🔗

Zoe also has built-in error with the process of self-reporting of questionable symptoms.

400425 alw, replying to alw, 3, #754 of 1279 🔗

“Another Lockdown Tragedy”

Having worked briefly with NHS complaints and most of the time with local government complaints, the gentleman should Initially write to the CEO of the hospital concerned saying if he does not get any satisfaction he will be taking the matter up with the health ombudsman and the media and very possibly a lawyer. Always send the letter PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL.

400426 ▶▶ iane, replying to alw, #755 of 1279 🔗

Wise words!

400506 ▶▶ John001, replying to alw, 2, #756 of 1279 🔗

Also use recorded delivery and for large-ish cases hire a solicitor. An intelligent person can do a county court small claim alone but if you’re facing the NHS monolith you need outside help. From my experience 10 yrs ago it will send you through endless appeals which aim to demoralise you and make you give up.

400427 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 18, #757 of 1279 🔗

Just had my “jab” at my local medical centre.
When asked my date of birth, I proudly said the same as Jonathan Sumption (09/12/1948) and I swear the temperature in the surgery dropped 10 degrees.
I don’t think that my anti lockdown badge helped either.

400432 ▶▶ arfurmo, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #758 of 1279 🔗

Did you have to be muzzled, please? And if not, was a battle?

400444 ▶▶▶ James Leary #KBF, replying to arfurmo, -1, #759 of 1279 🔗

It wouldn’t be a battle.

400447 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to arfurmo, #760 of 1279 🔗

Yes and No.

400438 ▶▶ Suet, replying to Fingerache Philip, 9, #761 of 1279 🔗

The anti-lockdown badge maybe, lol. But I bet you they wouldn’t have the first clue who Jonathan Sumption is.

400446 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Suet, 3, #762 of 1279 🔗

No, I had to tell them.

400439 ▶▶ jos, replying to Fingerache Philip, 15, #763 of 1279 🔗

That’s so brave of you to take part in the experimental gene-therapy clinical trials..

400450 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to jos, -4, #764 of 1279 🔗

I’m a proud sceptic but I’m not an anti-vaxer.

400452 ▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Fingerache Philip, 18, #765 of 1279 🔗

What do you consider an ‘anti-vaxxer’ to be?

I am amazed that a commenter on here can just trundle out such an overused, cliched propagandistic term.

400466 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to rockoman, 3, #766 of 1279 🔗

Someone who has valid reasons to refuse or just doesn’t want it.
I would fight to the end for the right of everyone to do so.
Different to the Covidisters who will buck no opposition whatsoever.

400471 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Fingerache Philip, 23, #767 of 1279 🔗

Not correct.

The word ‘anti-vaxxer’ is a propaganda term, which is used to paint anybody who has any question about any vaccine at any time as irrational and perhaps a danger to others.

400485 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to rockoman, 11, #768 of 1279 🔗

Count me as an anti vaxer if that is the case.
Us sceptics must be a “broad church” and if I can challenge this “propaganda” against us ( from members of my own family included) I will continue to do so and I will not be “talked down” to, not even by members of the medical profession.

400511 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to rockoman, 13, #769 of 1279 🔗

This is the problem Rocoman.
We are all classed as being mad conspiracy theorists for raising the slightest opposition.
We must stay united and not let the government, experts, advisers, sheep and collaborators divide us.
Along with all sceptics, I have been insulted and treated like an idiot even by members of my own family for raising the slightest objection to lockdown.

400443 ▶▶ James Leary #KBF, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #770 of 1279 🔗

Christ! He’s a few days younger than me. Whirrrrr – Click!! Who is this young upstart whippersnapper?

400448 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Fingerache Philip, 1, #771 of 1279 🔗

Which ‘jab’ was this?

400470 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to rockoman, -3, #772 of 1279 🔗

Astra Zeneca; for protection? against the Covid virus.

400474 ▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Fingerache Philip, 9, #773 of 1279 🔗

The one which a number of countries have recommended not be taken by those over 65.

400493 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to rockoman, 3, #774 of 1279 🔗

Can’t live forever nor do I want to.

400518 ▶▶ TimeIsNow, replying to Fingerache Philip, 1, #775 of 1279 🔗

Hello Phillip. Where did you get your anti-lockdown badge, could you post a photo? I’ll wear one next to my Free Speech Union pin. (Unless I’m being dense and it’s a rhetorical badge).

400529 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to TimeIsNow, 1, #776 of 1279 🔗

From Amazon or Ebay, can’t remember which.

400434 James Leary #KBF, 6, #777 of 1279 🔗

The upside-down Wee Crankie. Anybody the Woke idolise is bound to be a wrong-un.

‘I’ve shared ‘The myth of Saint Jacinda’ with you from Spectator’


400454 alw, replying to alw, 20, #778 of 1279 🔗

Talking to some New Zealand friends who live here in London about the NZ residents who came out of quarantine and then caught the virus. Apparently the NZ government are saying that the air-conditioning in the hotel wasn’t good enough. Oh dear even New Zealander’s aren’t buying this. Looks like St Jacinda’s saintly status is not holding up too well.

400476 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to alw, 23, #779 of 1279 🔗

Poor Jacinda, give her a sugarlump, keep your fingers out the way!

400582 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Two-Six, 3, #780 of 1279 🔗

Thats one of the funniest & polite jokes i’ve heard made about her.

401013 ▶▶▶▶ stevie119, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #781 of 1279 🔗

She could eat an apple through a tennis racquet!

400509 ▶▶ Will, replying to alw, 2, #782 of 1279 🔗

I worry for how this could unravel in NZ.

400510 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Will, 3, #783 of 1279 🔗

Why worry? They’re better off than we are at the moment. At least they’ve had a year of living more or less like human beings.

400543 ▶▶▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Annie, #784 of 1279 🔗

Yeah, comparisons are pretty invidious.

400528 ▶▶▶ alw, replying to Will, 5, #785 of 1279 🔗

It will hit them very hard.

400544 ▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Will, 4, #786 of 1279 🔗

As I’ve said previously, I don’t consider myself to be an evil person generally, but in this case I must be because part of me would feel quite some satisfaction if it does unravel. Only because they’ve been so smug about it however.

400585 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to alw, 2, #787 of 1279 🔗

If this virus is what it says on the label, then they aren’t going to escape it.

400457 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 11, #788 of 1279 🔗

Reading through the first MHRA adverse reaction report.


Full of platitudes and homilies saying “nothing to see here guv”.

They say this:

The MHRA has received 107 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 34 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 2 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.

So 143 reported deaths but as we know if they had been within 28 or 60 days of a positive test they would d100% be a “covid death”.

But I found these comments interesting:

The majority of adverse reactions were mild to moderate in severity and usually resolved within a few days of vaccination. Adverse reactions reported after the second dose were milder and reported less frequently than after the first dose.

Adverse reactions were generally milder and reported less frequently in older adults (65 years and older) than in younger people.

This is the age group least likely to go online and fill in a report.

They also admitted mild side-effects were experienced by “at least” 1 in 10 people so it could be a lot more, they did not specify.

And how does this assumption work?

because most of the millions of people offered the vaccine in this early phase of a vaccination campaign are elderly and/or have underlying medical conditions, which increases the likelihood of unrelated illnesses occurring soon after vaccination.

And basically the “fuck ’em, they don’t matter comment:

A high proportion of people vaccinated in the vaccination campaign so far are very elderly, many of whom will also have pre-existing medical conditions. Older age and chronic underlying illnesses make it more likely that coincidental adverse events will occur, especially given the millions of people vaccinated. It is therefore important that we carefully review these reports to distinguish possible side effects from illness that would have occurred irrespective of vaccination.

Based on age-stratified all-cause mortality in England and Wales taken from the Office for National Statistics death registrations, several thousand deaths are expected to have occurred, naturally, within 7 days of the many millions of doses of vaccines administered so far, mostly in the elderly.

400472 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Awkward Git, 9, #789 of 1279 🔗

“Older age and chronic underlying illnesses make it more likely that coincidental adverse events will occur”

Ah that makes sense – an adverse event is only real if it’s not a coincidence. What kind of double speak is that FFS?

400489 ▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to godowneasy, 10, #790 of 1279 🔗

And of course the exact opposite logic to that which they use to inflate the number of Covid deaths.

400486 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Awkward Git, 2, #791 of 1279 🔗

Someone seriously ill in hospital within 7 days of a natural death is unlikely to have a covid (experimental) vaccination, so you would expect less natural deaths in those vaccinated within 7 days of a vaccination than within the general population of the same age profile as the vacinees. It’s an invalid comparison.

Those seriously ill in hospital within 7 days of a natural death, are likely to be tested for covid, may test postive, and be recorded a a covid death however.

400668 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Awkward Git, 2, #792 of 1279 🔗

Essentially, anything from the MHRA can be ignored.

Their lack of opposition to absurdly rushed and curtailed vaccine trials said it all : they are an arm of government, not an independent regulator.

400688 ▶▶ peyrole, replying to Awkward Git, 1, #793 of 1279 🔗

They rely on others telling them of instances. So all the ADRs phoned in from the grave?

400458 James Leary #KBF, replying to James Leary #KBF, 87, #794 of 1279 🔗

Team Toadmeister, add this to your list.
(Lord) 🤣 Charles Moore:

Throughout Covid, I have been neither a lockdown sceptic nor an ardent supporter. The question seems finely balanced to me. My doctor friend who reports from the front line constantly assists those with severe Covid, so I am struck by his latest dispatch. ‘Although lockdown has almost certainly averted a disaster this time around, I am concerned that its costs are not being counted… therefore I am slowly compiling examples of harm that I have witnessed.’ One such: ‘An 88-year-old man who has been married for 62 years to the girl next door. He came into hospital very frail. His wife had gone into a nursing home before the first lockdown with dementia. He could not see her because he was not allowed out, and no one was permitted into the home. Their few Zoom conversations didn’t work, due to their mutual deafness and her dementia. As she was dying in July, alone among strangers, he begged to be with her, but was not allowed. It broke his heart and he declined rapidly. When he got a letter inviting him for a vaccine, he said: “Why am I allowed to go out for a vaccine but not to see the woman I loved more than life itself?” He refused the vaccine and days later became very unwell with a urinary tract infection. He has now died. The lockdown intended to protect that man destroyed his life and made it meaningless.’ We should not ignore such examples.

400691 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to James Leary #KBF, 4, #795 of 1279 🔗

My heart is with you, James

400459 Suet, replying to Suet, 21, #796 of 1279 🔗

I don’t understand. A scotch egg, using sausagemeat to wrap a hardboiled egg, is an acceptable meal (minister-approved), but sausages are to have a health warning?

Does anyone in the cabinet possess ANY brain cells?

400461 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Suet, 8, #797 of 1279 🔗


400522 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Suet, 5, #798 of 1279 🔗

If they had any it would disqualify them from office.

400460 Annie, replying to Annie, #799 of 1279 🔗

Try this for a fine example of balanced BBC reporting.


400498 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Annie, 9, #800 of 1279 🔗

I honestly will not watch anything put out by the BBC.

400514 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Annie, 3, #801 of 1279 🔗

Thumbs up to their president standing up to them. We might have to move there.

400467 mwhite, replying to mwhite, 10, #802 of 1279 🔗

Pubs to Reopen in April – But Can’t Serve Alcohol, so bring your own alcohol!

400539 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to mwhite, 5, #803 of 1279 🔗

And cinemas without films, swimming pools without water, schools without children…

400549 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to mwhite, #805 of 1279 🔗

Good one

400475 RoseE, replying to RoseE, 18, #806 of 1279 🔗

This may have been said before, but it seems to me that the whole sorry situation we find ourselves in can be traced back to three significant events instigated by the WHO:

  1. Espousal of, and blind enthusiasm for, the CCP’s Lockdown strategies.
  2. Changing the way deaths from Covid-19 are tallied by appearing on the medical death certificate anywhere in Part 1 (a, b, or c).
  3. Changing the definition of herd immunity to that of only being possible through vaccine.

Am I wrong here, but was Tardros Adhanom’s appointment from direct influence of Xi Jinping?

400499 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to RoseE, 13, #807 of 1279 🔗

“China did it’ is a red herring.

Tedros’ connections to western globalist elites are what counts. Check out his history.

From his Wikipedia entry:

“As Minister of Health, Tedros was able to form a close relationship with prominent figures including former American president Bill Clinton and the Clinton Foundation and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. [19] In 2010 the US State Department named Ethiopia as one of the US Global Health Initiative Plus countries, providing the country with greater access to resources for public health projects. [1″


“From 2008 until 2009, he was a member of the High Level Taskforce on Innovative International Financing for Health Systems, co-chaired by Gordon Brown and Robert Zoellick . [24]”

Chinese funding to WHO is miniscule compared to others.


Like everything else in life – it is those who pay who determine policy.

400577 ▶▶▶ RoseE, replying to rockoman, 3, #809 of 1279 🔗

Ah! Yes, sorry I should have mentioned the Gates funding too.

400537 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to RoseE, 3, #810 of 1279 🔗

I still well remember feeling my heart sink back in Feb/March when he (or it might have been some other WHO goon) returned from a fact-finding mission to China and praised their method of lockdown as being impressive and the right thing to do.

I knew that things would get bad from that moment on.

400575 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RoseE, 8, #811 of 1279 🔗

You only need concern yourself with two facts to realise covid19 is a fraud.

  1. The virus hasn’t been isolated or purified, therefore doesn’t officially exist.
  2. The test used to confirm infection of a disease that doesn’t officially exist doesn’t work & is unfit for purpose.

That alone at any other time or case would be sufficient evidence in a court of law to secure a conviction.

400484 rockoman, replying to rockoman, 8, #812 of 1279 🔗


The number of ‘active cases’ in Israel has now reached a new high, after previously falling a month or so ago.

400503 ▶▶ Janette, replying to rockoman, 9, #813 of 1279 🔗

Funny haven’t most of them had the vaccine???

400646 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Janette, 2, #814 of 1279 🔗

Yes they have.

400570 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to rockoman, 1, #815 of 1279 🔗

Who gives a shit, cases

400596 ▶▶▶ John001, replying to Jaguarpig, 3, #816 of 1279 🔗

Doctor interviews a US vaccine expert (and self-confessed enthusiast)

He still seems less gung-ho than what I’d call the UK vaccine-pushers, ranging from NHS staff to Hancock and Zahawi. (Funny that, could it be that the ministers are all on a percentage?)

So if anyone not seriously at risk wants a safer vaccine, J&J/Janssen or Novavax are coming along and might fit the bill.

400490 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 53, #817 of 1279 🔗

The Met describe anyone sitting on a bench in a park as a threat to life and limb which could bring about the end of human race

Ten stabbings in four locations in one evening is described as an ‘isolated incident’

400496 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Cecil B, 31, #818 of 1279 🔗

I will never respect any Copper as long as I live . I know they may be viewed as the Govt’s uselful idiots but I hate the cunts

400525 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Cecil B, 10, #819 of 1279 🔗

Keeps the fear going – don’t go out as it’s not safe

400644 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Cecil B, #820 of 1279 🔗

😅 😅 😅 😅 😅

400491 ruthsugden, replying to ruthsugden, 42, #821 of 1279 🔗

In response to the Hospice Nurse’s perspective in the newsletter on 6th February. I wholeheartedly agree with them. We as a society have lost sight of death being an inevitable part of life – as Benjamin Franklin is often quoted ‘in this world nothing can be said to certain, except death and taxes’.
My mother’s birthday is in December. In previous years she has taken her children, grandchildren and great grandchildren out for lunch. The meal is her Christmas present to us, our company is her birthday present to herself. Last year (2020) this was not allowed. At the start of 2020 my mum was a fit healthy 85 year old. Lockdowns have destroyed her. She was devastated that she wouldn’t be able to celebrate as normal so my husband, my three 30 something children and I broke the ‘law’ and went to see her.
My mum is now physically (and mentally) frail yet she still has capacity. I was a nurse who worked in the NHS for nearly 40 years and my husband is a GP. We made every effort to ensure that my mum could make the decision about our visit herself (she was literally begging us to come). We explained fully the potential problems, she understood the information we provided, was able to retain it for long enough to make a decision, was able to weigh up the risks and benefits of that decision and able to communicate that decision to us all (and other family members). Some people may say it was an unwise decision but as an adult deemed to have mental capacity, making an unwise decision is her prerogative. We drove to see her. None of us had coughs or colds and although one of my sons did check ‘but what if we kill her? Don’t kill Granny the government says’ he too saw that the delight our visit gave her FAR FAR outweighed any potential risk. And if she had died, she would have died happy (and five years older than the average age of death in the UK) and we would have been glad to have seen her.
We took food, my daughter baked a birthday cake and we gave her home made gifts and sang to her. She hugged and thanked us all. Much more meaningful and (for her) manageable than a zoom conversation.
Its now February. She’s still alive, though getting daily more fearful. She is too scared to leave her house. Not in case she catches any viruses but because the constant propaganda has led her to believe that if she has a fall, a heart attack or a stroke she will not be allowed to go to hospital – as health care is now only for Covid patients. And if she were to be admitted she would die of loneliness within days refused visitors to protect the very institution supposedly caring for her.

400534 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to ruthsugden, 14, #822 of 1279 🔗

And these are the people we’re supposedly protecting. It’s sick.

400636 ▶▶ Annie, replying to ruthsugden, 5, #823 of 1279 🔗

Protect the NHS. Destroy lives.
I do hope your mum lives through this bollox to spend more happy years with her family.

400642 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to ruthsugden, 5, #824 of 1279 🔗

Your family’s happiness comes first above everything else. To touch and hug a loved one should not be denied to anyone!

400656 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to ruthsugden, 6, #825 of 1279 🔗

You did a good thing for your mom! Keep breaking the law and give your mom a reason to stay healthy and hopeful. My grandmother died in July at almost 101, which is sad but by no means a tragedy. What was tragic was that her last 6 months of life were miserable and she told my mom during her last visit that she was ready to die. Try to give your mom reason to live and maybe plan another visit so she has something to look forward to.

400501 Major Panic, replying to Major Panic, 82, #826 of 1279 🔗

My thinking is, as a non expert, who has tried to understand what’s been going on over the last year, that;

There are at least two effective treatment drugs being used effectively by many reputable experienced doctors around the world, these cheap drugs have been around for decades and proven be completely safe when used properly. Even if you were sceptical about these treatments it is fair to say the doctors using them are first doing no harm.

These drugs and the doctors using them have had nothing but abuse from the authorities that authorise their use, in fact every attempt has been used to stop doctors using the treatments, even making it illegal.

Until recently there has been no ‘vaccine’ for covid,- and every effort has been made by ‘public health’ authorities, with no expense spared, to develop new vaccines. At the end of 2020 the first experimental vaccines were given emergency approval by regulators for mass population vaccination. My understanding is there cannot be emergency approval if there are effective treatments available.

So, from what I understand, the medical authorities have made every effort to prevent any possible treatments that may have caused problems for emergency approval for new and experimental vaccines.

it looks to me like the priority has not been saving lives, the priority has been promoting vaccines – and this has caused thousands of deaths of people who could otherwise have been treated.

Anybody involved in this pyramid of shit is guilt of premeditated mass murder, with no excuses – whatever there delusional justifications in their warped power hungry heads.

Am I wrong? Please tell me why – many thanks

400516 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Major Panic, 16, #827 of 1279 🔗

You are not wrong. There be money in them thare vaccines!

401020 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to isobar, #828 of 1279 🔗

There’s also death in the vaccines. Quite a bit in the short term, but lots more to come over the next year or so. The long planned Covid event has always been about depopulation.

400568 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Major Panic, 6, #829 of 1279 🔗

Sorry no comfort in a lie. This shits real.

400580 ▶▶ ituex, replying to Major Panic, 14, #830 of 1279 🔗

You are completely correct from a medical point of view. I think you are also right about the profit angle.

400638 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Major Panic, 4, #831 of 1279 🔗

No you’re not wrong. Your spot on. Just follow the money !

400650 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Major Panic, 4, #832 of 1279 🔗

Yes, the priority has been boosting share prices and selling at the right time.

400706 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Major Panic, 4, #833 of 1279 🔗

mRNA may lead to a cure for cancer and vaccine development in 6 months. Just need pass those pesky trial…. oh wait, an emergency licence? How fortuitous! Blank cheques? Even better! Patent heaven here we come! Kaching!

Have a look at this article and tell me if you think maybe the politicians and advisors have a certain, shall we say….. incentive. See that magical word beginning with ‘k’?


400513 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #834 of 1279 🔗

According to this article, renewable energies have overtaken fossil fuels. It doesn’t say why. Is it because of subsidies to prop up renewables and the closing down of other forms of fuels?


400532 ▶▶ John001, replying to bebophaircut, 5, #835 of 1279 🔗

They haven’t. They’ve overtaken fossil in electricity generation. Most cars still run on oil, a lot of cement is still made by burning coal and most houses in the UK are heated by natural gas.

400567 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to John001, 6, #836 of 1279 🔗

There is nothing that hasn’t consumed a drop of oil.

400515 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 13, #838 of 1279 🔗

Please rearrange the words False, Gates, Twitter, Intelligence, Graft, Positive, Monbiot, Guardian, Pig, Corruption, Yeadon, Funding, Censorship, Fraud, Vaccine, PCR, Money, Test, BBC, Dictator. Services, into a meaningful sentence

400517 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Cecil B, 2, #839 of 1279 🔗

Here is one from climate change news:


Almost the exact same article. Hmm. Who cares about Denmark? Their population is 10 to 11 times smaller than the U.K.’s.

400520 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #840 of 1279 🔗

Check out all the sponsors and advertising on the right hand corner.

400523 ▶▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 3, #841 of 1279 🔗

This article was produced by the World Economic Forum.


Look how they play around with percentages from one paragraph to the next. I’m confused.

400526 ▶▶▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 3, #842 of 1279 🔗

In the US and Europe, renewable increases are expected to far exceed demand as they are brought in to replace ageing fossil fuel infrastructure .

Oh yeah? When? Already? Horse manure.

400533 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 2, #843 of 1279 🔗

The recent presidential election victory for Joe Biden in the US, who has pledged a $2tn spending programme for clean energy, could also have a significant impact on the renewables sector.

Two Trillion? I wonder who’s going to pay for that?

Biden said the other day that it will take at least 10 years to get back to full employment. I wonder why.

400535 ▶▶▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 2, #844 of 1279 🔗

This was at the bottom of the webpage:

Written by
Josh Gabbatiss , Author, Carbon Brief
This article first appeared on Carbon Brief .
The views expressed in this article are those of the author alone and not the World Economic Forum .

400538 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #845 of 1279 🔗

If you scroll down page one of all the articles on renewables you will notice lots of different timelines and claims that are just several months apart.

400540 ▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to bebophaircut, 9, #846 of 1279 🔗

Are these the same Danes who have to get rid of surplus electricty when demand is low by selling it at a loss to Norway. Who then pump up their hydro and sell it back to Denmark at 3 times the price when demand is high but renewable generation is low.

Dispatchabilty is the key not generation.

400634 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to mhcp, #847 of 1279 🔗

Meanwhile, Sweden gets massive power cuts when the hydroelectric rivers run dry.

400536 RoseE, replying to RoseE, 3, #848 of 1279 🔗

Madeleine, Big Brother’s Legal and Policy Office, on our human rights and civil liberties:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J39OMn6GG8&nbsp ;

400553 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to RoseE, 1, #849 of 1279 🔗

excellent, I’m in

400541 DanClarke, 2, #850 of 1279 🔗

The Renewal energy, sustainable planet, Gene Therapy, etc, ILK, will ruin the planet the same way the same ilk did with their wars.

400555 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #851 of 1279 🔗
400562 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Londo Mollari, 1, #852 of 1279 🔗

Is there an echo in this room?

400564 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #853 of 1279 🔗

Don’t know what happened there.

400669 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #854 of 1279 🔗

…in this room.

.. this room.

400556 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 9, #855 of 1279 🔗
400559 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Londo Mollari, 4, #856 of 1279 🔗


400561 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Londo Mollari, 9, #857 of 1279 🔗

Recorded as a covid death no doubt.

400565 ▶▶ davews, replying to Londo Mollari, 13, #858 of 1279 🔗

Slightly confusing story as the chap was outside in the street and they went inside Tesco to get the defribillator. But I thought all such defribillators were for public use and recorded in an online searchable database. It looks like the security chap wasn’t informed and probably didn’t even know what such a device was for. A shocking death whatever the circumstances.

400589 ▶▶▶ Suet, replying to davews, 7, #859 of 1279 🔗

I rather think Tesco (and other supermarkets) badly need to up their training of these so-called ‘security’ staff.

400592 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to davews, 3, #860 of 1279 🔗

Its a stretch to say he would have lived otherwise anyway, they aren’t miracle machines, don’t think there use is particularly successful. I read somewhere a while ago the 3rd largest cause of death is medical care (medication) LOL.

400645 ▶▶▶ Basics, replying to davews, 1, #861 of 1279 🔗

Indeed. By coincidence the WEF young superstars of the future group in edinburgh has as its only project for public display the installation of more public defribillators.

These nasty little groups are all over the country made up of 18-30(?) yr olds who have been selected by WEF to be future leaders … I forget the name of the initiative.

Apologies for shoe-horning, but worth while mentioning.

400584 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Londo Mollari, -1, #862 of 1279 🔗

T esco staff caused a man’s death …”

Using MSM exaggeration and inaccuracy is not excusable.

400588 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to RickH, 6, #863 of 1279 🔗

if a defib might have saved the man, and tesco staff refused to allow someone to take the defib, then it is a reasonable chain of events to indicate that tesco staff certainly contributed to him not surviving if the use if the defib would have kept him alive.
regardless of technicalities, tesco are still at fault .

400658 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to mj, -1, #864 of 1279 🔗

Sorry – no. That’s confirmation bias, pure and simple.

Don’t mistake – they were undoubtedly stupid, but there is no evidence that this contributed to his death – in fact it is unlikely in terms of what is actually known.

Sorry – but hearing ill-sourced Covid crap every day makes me hypersensitive to self-serving assumptions.

400671 ▶▶▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to RickH, 3, #865 of 1279 🔗

Would you have accepted ‘Tesco staff might have caused a man’s death’?

400770 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to redbirdpete, 2, #866 of 1279 🔗

Lack of appropriate staff training might have contributed to a man’s death.

400615 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to Londo Mollari, 7, #867 of 1279 🔗

Assuming we have the full story (unlikely), the irony is that the Neanderthal in a uniform has probably been enforcing Tesco’s ludicrous Covid rules for months thinking he is a virtuous life saver.

Then he had to actually engage his pea-sized brain in a real life and death situation and failed miserably.

Still, with that level of intelligence he should really think about joining the Met police (spit), he’d fit in well.

400692 ▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Draper233, 3, #868 of 1279 🔗

There is one thing that has annoyed me lately – you all will probably think it trivial , but it does display some of the current hypocrisy – and that is the ads for supermarkets and other stores , such as furniture stores .
One minute we have the infamous “look them in the eyes” ad and then next to it ads from tesco or sainsburys showing unmasked , non SD- d actors playng customers looking for the latest bargains, mingling in the aisles with other unmasked actors . . Or in the case of sofa and bed stores the actors bouncing togeher on the furniture , unmasked and obviously not from the same bubble. And of course they are surrounded by sound and video technicians , store managers and film directors.
The ads give the impression of a normal pre covid scene , but should any person tempted by these ads try to enter the stores as unencumbered as in the ads is immediately at risk of being surrounded by the local SWAT team.
So the business model of say , Sainsburys is : -pay OUT lots and lots of money for air time and actors and for videos playing out an unmasked scenario. but a customer wanting to pay IN lots of moey by buying something is restricted , harassed, and often forced to stand out in the sleet until some arbitrary numbr of customers is in the store.
If you took that business model to Dragons Den , how many would be tempted to invest in it.

400627 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Londo Mollari, 1, #869 of 1279 🔗

Was it because the would-be rescuers weren’t wearing face knickers?

400767 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Londo Mollari, #870 of 1279 🔗

Yet another example of security staff not being properly trained until head office gets a damning complaint.

400569 fiery, replying to fiery, 58, #871 of 1279 🔗

Does anyone else find the practice of miming a hug and the equally ridiculous gesture of elbow bumping as irritating as I do. I always hatred playing charades and simply refuse to reciprocate.

400574 ▶▶ ituex, replying to fiery, 25, #872 of 1279 🔗

You could use ‘kicking on the shins’ that’ll stop it.

400583 ▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to ituex, 5, #873 of 1279 🔗

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

400622 ▶▶▶ Liz F, replying to ituex, 5, #874 of 1279 🔗

Or sticking a swab up their nose

400709 ▶▶▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to Liz F, 5, #875 of 1279 🔗

Or sticking a swab somewhere else.

400579 ▶▶ RickH, replying to fiery, 6, #876 of 1279 🔗


400603 ▶▶▶ DavidC, replying to RickH, 2, #877 of 1279 🔗



400612 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to fiery, 3, #878 of 1279 🔗

Yes, very irrritating. Reminds me of the Steff Petticoat song

“I don’t want no pleasant dreams, I want a pleasant reality”


400635 ▶▶ leggy, replying to fiery, 10, #879 of 1279 🔗

I won’t play along with that bollocks. People can give me a hug, shake my hand or do nothing at all.

400572 DThom, replying to DThom, 11, #880 of 1279 🔗

I wonder how much of our money has been wasted by this lot on controlling the media?
Probably paid expensive charges for the stupid adverts!

400587 ▶▶ mj, replying to DThom, 4, #882 of 1279 🔗

there was something on here a couple of weeks ago that showed the government advertising spend as being several hundred million

400597 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to mj, 7, #883 of 1279 🔗

Public Health England is now the country’s biggest advertising spender, over 50% more than Unilever. Back in august its spend was up 5,000% on the previous year, dread to think what it is now.

400626 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Jo Starlin, 8, #884 of 1279 🔗

Loads and loads and LOADS of damning evidence for Nuremberg 2.

400631 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to mj, 3, #885 of 1279 🔗

The cost of Covid-19 – The Institute for Government
Search domain http://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/cost-of-covid19.pdfhttps://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/cost-of-covid19.pdf
advertising campaigns by campaign area, January 2019 to July 2020 15 … be £317.4 billion in 2020/21 alone. This paper analyses the impact that the pandemic has had on the UK’s public finances in the current financial year. We calculate the cost of Covid to the public purse, drawing together data on government spending and tax revenues, as well as calculating the impact on the spending of …

400684 ▶▶▶▶ mj, replying to Bella Donna, 1, #886 of 1279 🔗

page 15 onwards. Shows advertising june/july up to £30 million per month. Likely to have increased since then

400573 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 40, #887 of 1279 🔗

Question for the Met

Is going out to stab someone an essential journey?

If not these people are in big big trouble and should get a fixed penalty notice

I want a report on my desk in the morning

400637 ▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to Cecil B, 2, #888 of 1279 🔗

As long as you are not “asking for a friend”

400594 Portnadler, 14, #889 of 1279 🔗

I’ve heard from a fairly official “source” today that (a) cases are down in my county ( winter peak past? ) but (b) deaths are up ( vaccine? ).
My italics.

Their explanation for (a) was the success of the lockdown measures and for (b) the new variant.

There is quite a wide gulf of interpretation here. I felt a shiver as she spoke.

400595 nic, replying to nic, 18, #890 of 1279 🔗

Any body know if there are any anti lockdown demos in the pipeline ?,weathers crap at the moment ,march approaching ,if nothing has changed by march time to take to the streets.

400762 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to nic, #891 of 1279 🔗

There were at least four today, see Protest Everywhere group on Telegram

Also regular meetups in several cities. Find their details on StandupX.

400618 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Sarigan (Day 321 of lockdown), 3, #893 of 1279 🔗

Done, suggested they display adverse reaction data.

400667 ▶▶▶ peterthepainter, replying to PoshPanic, 1, #894 of 1279 🔗

Did the same.

400628 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Sarigan (Day 321 of lockdown), 4, #895 of 1279 🔗

You can fill it again and again. I also mentioned please include deaths within 28 days of vaccine.

400652 ▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to Silke David, 5, #896 of 1279 🔗

Me too, by age

400604 JohnDanny, 11, #897 of 1279 🔗

The WEF admitted last April that lockdown is the biggest ever psychological experiment, and that we will pay a heavy price:


400605 Tenchy, replying to Tenchy, 4, #898 of 1279 🔗

When will restrictions end? Not for a very long time (and hopefully never) according to the scientists featured here:


Here’s the last paragraph (my emphasis):

“If the policy is to try to reach the herd immunity threshold, it will certainly be extremely difficult to do that without vaccinating older children,” says Woolhouse. He adds that other measures will be crucial in the meantime. “Mass testing could help us enormously between now and September , and we’ll need to focus on making contact safe and activities safe.

400620 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Tenchy, 17, #899 of 1279 🔗

The true believers will never admit they were wrong. Avoiding ever having to admit they were wrong has been a key motive in bringing them this far.

But for the great bulk of the compliant, when will their faith be exhausted? When this has been going on for another year, perhaps. Obviously, by then there will be nothing they can actually do. But surely at that point it must dawn on them that the gaslighting and the fake promises of an end in sight have made them accomplices in the destruction of their own lives.

I am not feeling very positive today.

400624 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Tenchy, 4, #900 of 1279 🔗

How much are our Dishonourables being paid for every vaccination?

400625 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Tenchy, 7, #901 of 1279 🔗

Woolhead, more like.
Stuff safe. Life isn’t safe.

400633 ▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to Annie, 4, #902 of 1279 🔗

I have heard they want to keep quarantine hotels for the next 50-100 years. ( Apart from the nomenklatura of course)
They are also planning another click of the ratchet by stopping anyone moving out of the shire they were born in, now that the sheeple accept not being allowed out of the country anymore.

400629 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Tenchy, 7, #903 of 1279 🔗

These people are a menace to society. Yeah, let’s inject children with vaccines that have not been developed or tested for this age group.

400672 ▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to PoshPanic, 9, #904 of 1279 🔗

Whitty has no children, so no empathy for those that have. Hence the nonsense that comes out from No 10 over which Whitty appears to rule.

400814 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Tenchy, #905 of 1279 🔗

Woolhead more like!

400991 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Tenchy, #906 of 1279 🔗

I am not a violent person, but if this trial balloon emerges in the general conversation and some body decides that they want to raise the idea of child covid vaccines in my vicinity, well.

400611 HoMojo, replying to HoMojo, 32, #907 of 1279 🔗

I never cease to be amazed by the idiocy that is government and the morons that occupy it. Open pubs but they can’t sell alcohol? Right. So we have an epidemic of customers buying fruit juices and other soft drink and adding their chosen poison – vodka, gin whatever – which they’ll bring in themselves. Hence disease precipitated by alcohol will now increase exponentially since our beer and wine drinking consumers are now imbibing booze that is at least twice as strong (depending of course on volume.) Have none of these cretins who make up these rules as if they were participating in some primary school project studied Prohibition in the US? That worked really well I hear.

400648 ▶▶ RickH, replying to HoMojo, 9, #908 of 1279 🔗

Prohibition in the US? That worked really well I hear.”

Indeed it did. Some people are too thick to be in charge of a child’s scooter – let alone a government.

400654 ▶▶ Annie, replying to HoMojo, 13, #909 of 1279 🔗

Look out for the new popular pub name: The Speak Easy. Particularly suitable for Fascist Britain, where free speech, and indeed all speech, is crushed.

400714 ▶▶▶ Alethea, replying to Annie, 10, #910 of 1279 🔗

I’ve never been much of a pub person, but if the medico-fascist state actually bans pubs from selling alcohol I will roam the streets of my city until I detect the presence of a speakeasy and I will from that day on establish myself as the most loyal patron at its bar.
I might adopt a new name: Tallulah, perhaps, or Babe. Something suitably 20s.

400745 ▶▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Alethea, 1, #911 of 1279 🔗

I’ll be on the bar stool next to you. My name is Hildie, and these are my two friends Barney and Reggie.

400778 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to HoMojo, 4, #912 of 1279 🔗

It’s a round about way of pulling the plug on pubs by withdrawing any business support because they are in theory free to open while removing their trade.

400811 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 1, #913 of 1279 🔗

Exactly. My local pub does great food and has wonderful beer but it absolutely murders an excellent brand of coffee.

400621 Nessimmersion, replying to Nessimmersion, 9, #914 of 1279 🔗

Although the fluoride in tapwater is possibly a distraction, why the living f*** would we want to mess about with an old obsession now.
Fluoride in toothpaste is old school.
It has already been surpassed, it is just typical dentistry stick in the muds that are still pushing it.
Hydroxyapatite toothpaste is what you need.

“A new kind of toothpaste has come onto the scene, challenging fluoride’s #1 seat at the cavity-defense table. But does hydroxyapatite (HAp) really work to protect and strengthen teeth? Is it safe? Should you use it?

In this article, you’ll learn how HAp toothpaste works, why I recommend it over fluoride for optimal oral health, the benefits (including whiter teeth!), and which brands to try.

If you’re done with fluoride and ready to move onto something better and fluoride-free, this is the toothpaste for you.”

400756 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Nessimmersion, #915 of 1279 🔗

I think the sausages were the distraction and fluoride is the real agenda.

400623 FenTyger, replying to FenTyger, 17, #916 of 1279 🔗

I have a runny nose and sore eyes, should I get tested?
I think it may be the Allium mutation.
Should I add a jalfrezi sauce & some chicken?
Will a couple of Cobra’s cure it?

400643 ▶▶ Jonny S., replying to FenTyger, 3, #917 of 1279 🔗

Think you shoujd have a couple of Tigers not Cobras

400685 ▶▶▶ FenTyger, replying to Jonny S., 2, #918 of 1279 🔗

All I have in the garage… No Corona.

400666 ▶▶ mikewaite, replying to FenTyger, 8, #919 of 1279 🔗

We are only a few weeks away from the start of the hay fever season , sneezing , runny nose, sore eyes , headache, perfect cover for boosting the “covid” statistics . I know, lets have a lockdown on rape fields, any farmer sowing rape pays £10000 per acre . That should help to ease the Chancellor’s money worries.

400755 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to mikewaite, 3, #920 of 1279 🔗

I’d be up for that. Oilseed rape is evil stuff!

400630 Basics, 19, #921 of 1279 🔗

Gobbledegook flag update.

Edinburgh Council City Chambers are no longer flying the EU flag which they had being doing consistently since the Brexit date.

The Chambers are now flying the LGBT rainbow and a pink white and blue flag assumed to be Transgender or self IDing of some description. Both are flown from the top of the building judt below the Union Flag. Saltires now adorn the lower slopes below Trans and LGBT.

It is assumed the two flags, LGBT and Trans, are there to support the recent sacking of Cherry who is the wrong kind of woke, or something.

Meanwhile the council is overseeing homelessness, defunding of addiction support, closed schools, etc etc etc.

400651 Jonny S., replying to Jonny S., 4, #922 of 1279 🔗

Has Mike Yeadon been removed from twitter?

400655 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Jonny S., 8, #923 of 1279 🔗

He removed himself after some pretty disgusting attacks. There’s plenty of commentary below if you have a search.

400665 ▶▶▶ Jonny S., replying to leggy, 2, #924 of 1279 🔗

Cheers. I missed that. Unfortunately another voice of reason silenced by the baying masses. I more and more frequently despair of my own species.

400659 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Jonny S., 5, #925 of 1279 🔗

These people are truly fucking mental.

400662 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to PoshPanic, 11, #926 of 1279 🔗

It’s a strategy designed to silence those with opposing views.

I’m really glad that I never joined TwitFace….

400653 Polemon2, replying to Polemon2, 22, #927 of 1279 🔗

Astonishment and scorn regarding pubs with no beer is quite reasonable. However we should realise that this is a long term NHS aim. You may have noticed, in the past, the number of MSM reports on the numbers of hospital admissions for alcohol related problems; Friday nights in A&E with waiting areas full of drunks; household violence due to “excess” alcohol consumption, etc, etc.
I have no doubt that there is a degree of truth here, but (as usual) we mainly have anecdotes rather than facts.
The NHS (under the guise of “prevention is better than cure” ) has long been trying to abolish alcohol consumption and uses every opportunity to advance this agenda. Here we have yet another example of the pursuit of this aim. It is not just Devi Sridhar, it is an NHS mantra.

It is the same campaign strategy that was waged so successfully against tobacco and which would remove lung cancer forever. Yet it is still the third most frequent cancer with, according to Cancer Research UK, 1 in 13 UK males and 1 in 15 UK females diagnosed with lung cancer in their lifetime

400661 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Polemon2, 10, #928 of 1279 🔗


“Global strategy to reduce harmful use of alcohol
For the first time, delegations from all 193 Member States of World Health Organization (WHO) reached consensus at the World Health Assembly on a global strategy to confront the harmful use of alcohol. Since 2008, WHO has been in the process of drafting a global strategy to reduce the harmful use of alcohol. On Friday 21 May 2010 the Sixty-third session of the World Health Assembly adopted by consensus resolution WHA63.13, which endorses the global strategy.

The harmful use of alcohol is a serious health burden, and it affects virtually all individuals on an international scale. Health problems from dangerous alcohol use arise in the form of acute and chronic conditions, and adverse social consequences are common when they are associated with alcohol consumption. Every year, the harmful use of alcohol kills 2.5 million people, including 320 000 young people between 15 and 29 years of age. It is the third leading risk factor for poor health globally, and harmful use of alcohol was responsible for almost 4% of all deaths in the world, according to the estimates for 2004.

The global strategy focuses on ten key areas of policy options and interventions at the national level and four priority areas for global action.”

Not as if there’s not a global move to reduce alcohol consumption or anything….

400676 ▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to LMS2, 6, #929 of 1279 🔗

So when will we do a Sweden style Alcohol shop which also rations how much you can buy?
Why go to the pub anyway if you can get drunk much cheaper at home?
People will start brewing/distilling at home and unclean alcohol will kill people.
Yes, it might reduce A&E attendances from people with alcohol related minor injuries, but it won’t stop drinking. Not in GB, it is in their genes!

400763 ▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Silke David, 4, #930 of 1279 🔗

In South Africa they banned alcohol sales (only just rescinded) to ‘combat covid’. What happened, sales of illicit booze apparently went through the roof.

400821 ▶▶▶▶▶ peter-, replying to isobar, 2, #931 of 1279 🔗

The major driver behind this was the fact that the ANC and their cronies control almost the entirety of South Africa’s black market on alcohol. Consumption hasn’t gone down at all, just different people earning a lot more money from it.

400729 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to LMS2, 6, #932 of 1279 🔗

Let’s face it – the sober sociopaths like Sridhar have done more damage in the last year than a tribe of piss-artists.

400739 ▶▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to RickH, 1, #933 of 1279 🔗

The road to help is paved with good intentions.

Prohibition didn’t work in the U.S..
I doubt it will work here….

400681 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Polemon2, 10, #934 of 1279 🔗

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” ~ Benjamin Franklin
Traditionally wine and cider making used the natural yeast that is found on the surface of fruit, we need to live in tune with nature, learn to let our own immune systems live with SARS-Cov2, let ourselves enjoy the result of the natural interaction of fruit and yeast. Don’t fight it go with the flow……………I’ll drink to that!

400807 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Steve Martindale, 3, #935 of 1279 🔗

When I was a kid, I used to make some very potent ginger beer.
Most homes had a ginger beer “plant” on the windowsill and the kids would take turns to feed it.

Nettle beer is actually quite good too.

I was wondering if I should plant some rhubarb, as I’m indifferent to eating it but am quite partial to it in a fermented format. I already have elderflowers in the hedge.

Hope they don’t decide to ban the sale of yeast to the public!

400683 ▶▶ Kat, replying to Polemon2, 8, #936 of 1279 🔗

There’s a deep irony to this as there is a long history of medics using alcohol to cope with the stress of their job. They often have quite high suicide rates. In addition, I was always struck by the fact that when my children were young, our health visitor was a longtime smoker. The NHS needs to focus on its staff if it wants the nation’s health to improve.

400742 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Kat, 7, #937 of 1279 🔗

“The NHS needs to focus on its staff if it wants the nation’s health to improve.”

And put a lot of them on a diet, for a start.

400760 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Polemon2, 4, #938 of 1279 🔗

I think that restrictions on alcohol consumption have always been part of the plan and this is another example of how covid 19 has been ‘weaponised’ by single interest pressure groups to pursue their own agenda. Wait for a hike in alcohol duty in the budget to combat the rise in off sales.

400663 Bungle, replying to Bungle, 24, #939 of 1279 🔗

Welcome to Spring dear sceptics. Yes,I know that Whitty will tell you that Spring starts on March 21 but, dear friends, just watch the flowers and the creatures, they know. If you prefer incontrovertible facts, rather than observation, check the daylight hours. 13 weeks in each season so, 6 and a half weeks since Dec 21 takes us to Winter’s end on 5th Feb. Why drag Whitty in? Well, he doesn’t like facts, he likes guesswork, known as modelling. So, he is single and a private man? That is his entitlement, but we are also entitled and we want someone without 19 university degrees but a little more evidence of knowledge of life for the ordinary Joe & Joanna. Talking of which, I started teaching research methods to doctoral students the year Whitty was born but since then I’ve accumulated many scars and 6 grandchildren and as Churchill said “Expert knowledge is limited knowledge, and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.”

400725 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Bungle, -2, #940 of 1279 🔗

That Churchill ramble round the roses is a right load of old bollocks. 🙂 The ‘plain man’ is well invested in the Corona nonsense – even if a lot of ‘experts’ are similarly clueless (or venal).

400732 ▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to RickH, 3, #941 of 1279 🔗

If they weren’t cushioned, they would not be. Winston, who allowed the police to open fire on my grandpa, had not imagined furlough.

400664 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 24, #942 of 1279 🔗

Murder, Mass Murder Genocide: NO; Attending a 1 year old’s birthday party is the worst crime possible.
I don’t know who are the
most loathsome, the MSM who could hardly contain their glee, the so called human beings (gestapo) who raided the flat and fined the party goers £800 each or the “friendly” neighbours who shopped em.
Don’t know if the 1 year old was fined.

400673 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Fingerache Philip, 10, #943 of 1279 🔗

The baby was not fined, but police took away their presents and birthday cake for “further examination”. Apparently 24 persons were at the illegal house party in a tiny flat but somehow they managed to have a barbecue as well. The neighbours have asked for police protection.

400675 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to godowneasy, 6, #944 of 1279 🔗

No comment necessary or possible.

400677 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Fingerache Philip, 2, #945 of 1279 🔗

Just added Cooper to the list

400678 ▶▶ Biker, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #946 of 1279 🔗

It’s just a shot away

400689 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Biker, 1, #947 of 1279 🔗

It’s just a kiss away.

400670 Biker, 30, #948 of 1279 🔗

It’s all still a lot of old bollocks. Stay home, hide in a cupboard and pray jesus takes your soul while sleeping. Though i was speaking with a medium and she told me old Tom said if you die of the woo flu they’re not letting you into heaven. You have to quarantine in Limbo for ten days before St. Peter lets you near them gates and even then if you’ve died of the woo flu you caught from the vax then you’re not human anymore so you’re not getting in. Hell don’t want you because even the devil can’t be bothered with this pish anymore.

400674 Sarigan (Day 321 of lockdown), 3, #949 of 1279 🔗


Gates briefing the CIA in 2005

400679 HelenGrace, replying to HelenGrace, 41, #950 of 1279 🔗

Thank you so much for publishing the letter from the nurse on 6th February. I too trained in the 1970’s. I absolutely agree with every word she has written and applaud her for putting down on paper what has been on my mind. She is bang on the button and I would love to speak with her.

I am thankful that my mother at 97 years of age is still living at home with some morning help and meals on wheels and so on. It is crazy to me that she can have care workers, meal deliveries, cleaner/ laundry helper, chiropodist and my sister doing her shopping in and out, but I am not to visit! She is bored, deprived of family visits and great grand children visits and has lost mobility during the last year. She is supposed to have her hearing aid adjusted with a home visit and the audiologist says “the government won’t let us do home visits”!!! So she has been managing for a year with her old hearing aids and the new ones sitting in a box with no date. She could go to the shop last autumn when it was briefly open but no home visits!! As a family we have always tried to have something for her to look forward to, she is very pragmatic and stoic on the whole. Having people in and out of the house has helped her keep in contact with the world other than through the TV screen!

Many of us nurses and healthcare professionals have been banging on about the loss of beds and the impact of demographic curve and major increases in the elderly, let alone a massive number of staff retiring around the same time. The impact of the European working time directives on, in my experience as a theatre sister, surgical training and the surgical teams (called firms) with the loss of continuity.

I have written to my MP several times, as I am sure many have about this insanity and how so many people have been scared literally witless’.

Thank you Toby and team and contributors to Lockdown Sceptics for allowing voices to be heard and for me to comment too, Helen

400693 ▶▶ DThom, replying to HelenGrace, 18, #951 of 1279 🔗

Just visit her, who is stopping you!

400695 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to DThom, 2, #952 of 1279 🔗


400703 ▶▶▶ Marialta, replying to DThom, 12, #953 of 1279 🔗

You can visit her! You are well within the advice as you are visiting an isolated person with restricted mobility in receipt of other essential services. I am sick of this idea that older people just need to be fed, watered, washed and medicated and that ‘ care’ does not include psychological or spiritual care. Any ‘ care package’ worth the name includes a chance to socialise.

400704 ▶▶▶▶ Marialta, replying to Marialta, 1, #954 of 1279 🔗

That was meant for HG

400686 Derek Toyne, replying to Derek Toyne, 7, #955 of 1279 🔗

The BIS report while biased towards vaccination does make interesting reading and points some obvious stuff. First the vaccine will provide you with immunity after twelve weeks or until your antibodies have reached a certain level. While no one is 100% sure it should be assumed that you won’t be infectious in that time,but still vulnerable to covid. This explains why the government are frightened to open up society when their should be giving the vulnerable the second dose now. The other thing BIS report says if you get infected with covid you will be infectious, but after ten days you will have immunity. This says to me you should only be vaccinating the vulnerable as soon as possible and allowing the rest of us to get out and about. But no the government has decided to vaccinate everybody going for herd immunity which a couple of months ago they said didn’t exist, and criticised lockdown sceptics for saying such a thing. I work for nhs and everyone I know is getting vaccinated even though they not vulnerable but I won’t because I believe we all have immunity and believe it’s unfair for me to get vaccinated while the vulnerable must wait. I don’t know if I am immune to covid but do know that neither me nor my daughter’s got infected even though my wife got covid and we hugged her while she coughed on us. Please don’t try this if your vulnerable. Lastly do people remember those adverts telling you to take pain killers or Lemsip at the first sign of a cold or flu, and the next moment he or she is back at work. A couple of years ago research showed such medicines not only could prolong your cold but leave you infectious to everyone so I wonder is Lemsip the biggest spreader of covid now?

400707 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to Derek Toyne, 5, #956 of 1279 🔗

The ‘get infected with Covid and be immune 10 days later” was true from the start. Which means a lot of people are getting experimental gene therapy for nothing.

400960 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to mhcp, #957 of 1279 🔗

And they’ve known this. Which is why Witty was making the comments he was n February. They fucked things royally by locking down. Going against all pre 2020 planning. Why? They’ve got to answer for that

400712 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Derek Toyne, 5, #958 of 1279 🔗

“Lastly do people remember those adverts telling you to take pain killers or Lemsip at the first sign of a cold or flu, and the next moment he or she is back at work. A couple of years ago research showed such medicines not only could prolong your cold but leave you infectious to everyone so I wonder is Lemsip the biggest spreader of covid now?”

The adverts for products like Lemsip are irresponsible in my opinion. It’s misleading to suggest someone with flu could be ok to go to work after taking Lemsip. Even if they could (if you have real flu, you’re lucky to get out of bed, let alone go to work), they’d still be infectious. Ditto a cold. You’d just be spreading your virus everywhere.

I personally only use them to be able to sleep at night.
I don’t think Lemsip is spreading CV19, but i could be wrong.

400851 ▶▶▶ Derek Toyne, replying to LMS2, 1, #959 of 1279 🔗

Lemsip works by reducing your temperature good if it’s very high but your immune system usas high temperature to kill off infection.Lemsip interferes with the immune system so prolonging illness. Now if you go out after you’ve taken Lemsip you could be spreading unwittingly covid. Lastly try taking vitamin D there’s many videos out there showing how it’s linked to sleep.

400719 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Derek Toyne, 2, #960 of 1279 🔗

The vulnerable should actually think very hard before getting a vaccine that hasn’t been properly tested, and for which information is therefore skimpy and based on vested interests more than science.

400687 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 24, #961 of 1279 🔗

The Met police can find thousands of officers to attack peaceful demonstrators, yet have none available to prevent ten people getting stabbed.

Moral of the story?

400698 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Cecil B, 2, #962 of 1279 🔗

Unless of course you are a Marxist intent on property damage, in which case they’ll kneel to you.

400713 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Cecil B, 4, #963 of 1279 🔗

The Met is politically corrupt.

400731 ▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to Cecil B, 11, #964 of 1279 🔗

That sitting on a park bench is a major risk to the health of the nation, but 10 stabbings is an isolated local incident.

400741 ▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to Cecil B, -1, #965 of 1279 🔗

“Keep your eye on the ball”.

400761 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Cecil B, 1, #966 of 1279 🔗

Wear a stab vest in Croydon and a hard hat in Trafalgar Square.

400699 GrannySlayer, replying to GrannySlayer, 13, #967 of 1279 🔗

Hancock wants to fluoridate the water so… we all become as stupid as he is? Great…

400722 ▶▶ BJJ, replying to GrannySlayer, 4, #968 of 1279 🔗

It is banned in the Netherlands and in Germany to fluoridate drinking water. It is really only done in the US and there are court cases in process demanding bans.

400700 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 8, #969 of 1279 🔗

I haven’t paid too much attention to all the stats and graphs recently but I wandered over to the UK Corona dashboard just now (pic below). The “cases” figure is diving down rapidly but I find the number of tests quite astonishing – 783,000 in one day, 4.5 million in a week. I guess this is part of the surge to track down mutants? Where on earth are they finding that many people? And since when have the tests been called “Virus tests”? I thought they were supposed to be looking for SARS-COV-2 – will any old virus now do?

400705 ▶▶ nic, replying to godowneasy, 2, #970 of 1279 🔗

Agree if never had a test I’m sure some sheep have 1 just to pass the time.

400710 ▶▶ RickH, replying to godowneasy, 6, #971 of 1279 🔗

since when have the tests been called “Virus tests”?”

Interesting . Especially when they don’t establish the presence of a live virus!

400715 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to godowneasy, 2, #972 of 1279 🔗

when you divide positive tests by tests conducted the % is considerably low even when you consider false positives

400718 ▶▶ BJJ, replying to godowneasy, 10, #973 of 1279 🔗

I´m sorry to disappoint you but there is not a grain of truth in any of this. The whole saga is just a Potemkin facade. The big race now is to keep the “case” rates high until the “vaccines” have saved us. If the rulers think they might not make it the will roll in the climate armageddon. I think they will lose in all of this. Eventually.

400701 Lockdown Sceptic, 6, #974 of 1279 🔗

Canadian and UK Censorship Madness – “Not all truthful statements must be free from restrictions”


Piers Corbyn arrested for poster

400708 Alex, replying to Alex, 13, #975 of 1279 🔗

On the Door To Door “Surge Testing” article in the Mail Online; looking at the comments, I would say that the people are starting to turn…

400728 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Alex, 4, #976 of 1279 🔗

Yes and long may it continue

400716 Basics, replying to Basics, 25, #977 of 1279 🔗

Greta being investigated


“Environmental extremist Greta Thunberg sparked a criminal conspiracy probe after sharing the wrong document with her nearly 5 million Twitter followers.

“The investigation began after the 18-year-old Thunberg accidentally tweeted apparent orders advising her on what to post and say about sensitive world issues.”

She is WEF Davos invitee. As such is of relevance to the utility of lockdown in advancing the globalist goals brought in with lockdown. Screen capture in the article.

400721 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Basics, 5, #978 of 1279 🔗

Oops, some truth came out…. can’t have that.

400723 ▶▶ Basics, replying to Basics, 4, #979 of 1279 🔗

And to emphasise the point, a tweet from a loon.

“Climate change may have played a “key role” in the transmission of the novel coronavirus to humans by driving several species of pathogen-carrying bats into closer contact, research showed on Friday.’ ” Feb 6 2021


400735 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Basics, 3, #980 of 1279 🔗

Via a virologist research laboratory…..

The bat colony in question were hundreds of miles away from where the outbreak was said to have started.

400743 ▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to Basics, 2, #981 of 1279 🔗

Heavy metal probably had a larger role as the force of rock is mighty. That’s what I typically think when some institution brings up climate change.

400734 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Basics, 3, #982 of 1279 🔗

Article about her on UKColumn yesterday:


400946 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Basics, 1, #983 of 1279 🔗

She’s being investigated allegedly by the Indian government or whatever. They are organising a digital campaign against the government. This is the document.


Am I missing something? Looks like a bunch of 20 somethings trying to change the world via tweets

400720 GrannySlayer, replying to GrannySlayer, 20, #984 of 1279 🔗

Filed under ‘No Shit, Sherlock’:

Covid has been ‘catastrophic’ for cancer care and ‘a crisis is brewing’ with bowel and breast tumour deaths set to surge in next five years, WHO director warns

  • World Health Organization’s Europe director, Hans Kluge, warns of cancer crisis
  • He said delays to scans, treatments and drug shortages will hit patients hard
  • Macmillan in the UK has warned cancer has been the ‘Forgotten C’ during Covid
  • Cancellation of appointments during first wave in UK led to huge backlog


400727 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to GrannySlayer, 18, #985 of 1279 🔗

We all know this and we also know that no one will ever be responsible for this! No fat cat in NHS bears any accountability. As for Macmillan and other charities their silence was and still is deafening – their fat cat are no different that the state paid ones.

400733 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to TheClone, 9, #986 of 1279 🔗

Absolutely well said. I am sick of all these charities begging for money ‘cos their donations have gone down. Like u say their silence has been deafening yet, when the issue is made public by WHO they jump on the bandwagon.

400737 ▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to TheClone, 12, #987 of 1279 🔗

I’m afraid that is the problem with most of the larger charities – they are run to ensure the income of their employees – particularly the director level – and the people or animals they are meant to be helping come a distant second.

400801 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to redbirdpete, 4, #988 of 1279 🔗

Well said. Check out the executive pay of some of the large charities, it’s disgusting, they’re just a scam.

400906 ▶▶▶▶▶ stevie119, replying to GrannySlayer, 2, #989 of 1279 🔗

Once a charity reaches a certain size it needs to pay bosses, company cars, pensions expenses etc. It is then a business.

400740 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to GrannySlayer, 4, #990 of 1279 🔗

The entire board of the WHO should be resigned and await trial.

400749 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to GrannySlayer, 4, #991 of 1279 🔗

We were on this 8, 9 months ago. These people are slow.

400730 AN other lockdown sceptic, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 11, #992 of 1279 🔗
400746 ▶▶ Jo, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 5, #993 of 1279 🔗

Thank you. Just sent to my friend who is having the gene tech on Tuesday. As a retired nurse she will understand what these conditions mentioned are.
PS 21 people have died in Berkshire of Covid – in hospices!

400799 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 1, #994 of 1279 🔗


400736 PoshPanic, replying to PoshPanic, 8, #995 of 1279 🔗

A really great article over at Off G, written by an anonymous journalist, working at one of Germany’s news channels.


400759 ▶▶ RickH, replying to PoshPanic, 10, #996 of 1279 🔗

Well cited.

It is an excellent article, giving insight into the media processes that have been so important in creating this shit-show.

Back in March, I well remember supporting the cancellation of rehearsals in the committee of the orchestra of which I was a member. I’d done my research and, on the basis of best available information, it seemed the best thing to do. In the same situation, I would do the same now.

But then more information began to emerge, coupled with a downgrading of Covid from being a ‘High Consequence’ disease. But the media narrative didn’t change. Quite the opposite. As the author of this argument writes :

“Part of the basic training of a journalist is that he never reports figures without meaningful reference. He must always provide comparisons, references and proportionalities so that the viewer / listener / reader can contextualise the information.”

And this is precisely what didn’t happen. The BBC, night after night, displayed appalling, decontextualsed journalism.

The output used exactly the same propaganda methods as had been used to promulgate the story of fictional antisemitism in the Labour Party, and in the wider establishment attack on Corbyn. Anyone with a grasp of the facts and propaganda methodology recognized it – whatever their political alignment.

Data analysis confirmed the gap between narrative and reality.

The rest is history. The same techniques were used to batter the population into abject fear of another myth.

This article is an excellent insight into this media corruption.

400766 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to RickH, 6, #997 of 1279 🔗

The downgrading of the virus from High Consequence Infectious Disease occurred in March – the nineteenth to be exact.

400777 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #998 of 1279 🔗

I think I implied that, Steve.

400791 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to RickH, 3, #999 of 1279 🔗

Back in March, I well remember supporting the cancellation of rehearsals in the committee of the orchestra of which I was a member. I’d done my research and, on the basis of best available information, it seemed the best thing to do. In the same situation, I would do the same now.

But then more information began to emerge, coupled with a downgrading of Covid from being a ‘High Consequence’ disease

No, you implied the opposite. You implied that you supported lockdown measures which were introduced 20/23 March on the basis of your research and later became sceptical on the ground of new information, specifically the downgrading of the virus, but that happened on19 March.

400889 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ stevie119, replying to Steve Hayes, -1, #1000 of 1279 🔗

and then likened it to “fictional antisemitism”. Fictional my arse.

400798 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to PoshPanic, 2, #1001 of 1279 🔗

It is a terrible, self serving article – reminiscent of nothing so much as Nieomoller’s post facto pretence to be opposed to the Nazi’s when he had in fact been a Nazi supporter. The journalist makes it perfectly plain that they have gone along with all the coronavirus propaganda, but like Nieomoller pretends they were opposed to it. As Burke famously pointed out: all that is needed for evil to succeed is for good people to go along with it.

400826 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #1002 of 1279 🔗

That’s an interesting take on it, which I hadn’t thought of. And helps explain why we are so deep in the shit.

400876 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #1003 of 1279 🔗

Did Niemoller pretend not to have been a supporter of the Nazis? My recollection was that he openly admitted that he had been a supporter of them but had changed his mind.

400738 PhantomOfLiberty, replying to PhantomOfLiberty, 9, #1004 of 1279 🔗

Matt Hancock, Klaus Schwab, 5G and the Fourth Industrial Revolution (2030) all embedded in the British state years ago:


400747 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to PhantomOfLiberty, 2, #1005 of 1279 🔗

Haha! You actually found that, good work!

400792 ▶▶ jb12, replying to PhantomOfLiberty, #1006 of 1279 🔗

Incompetence, I say!

400751 bebophaircut, 3, #1007 of 1279 🔗

Elsewhere in Europe. Pressure on smaller countries to curb use of coal powered plants. Threat of closures for non-compliance.


GreenEnergyNews. Probably subsidized by the World Bank, IMF or WEF.

Project is being implemented by a civil society organization Center for Promotion of *Sustainable Development
*The United Nations favourite buzz word. In use for around 50 years.

400752 Seansaighdeoir, 7, #1008 of 1279 🔗

Very subtle the way the DM ‘records’ cases in its latest headline on the number of positive pcr tests carried out. This supplants in the mind that the numbers are ‘records’ i.e. record numbers.

If all this was real why the need for such devious behaviour and the employment of behavioural psychologists who will be well versed in such techniques?

400753 Ross Hendry, replying to Ross Hendry, 23, #1009 of 1279 🔗

There are only really two possibilities:


(a) Our government and those worldwide are the most supremely incompetent and traitorous ever known (and synchronously so), who have acted with hitherto unknown draconian measures for a disease that our most reputable scientists (when they are allowed to speak) say is no more lethal than the annual flu.


(b) We are in the midst of a diabolical, planned global reset meticulously organised by the weirdly left-leaning WHO and the WEF – and facilitated by their marionettes in national governments.

Sooner or later national inquiries will be forced to recognise that (b) obtains and charges of crimes against humanity will apply, including infringement of the Nuremberg Code with regard to medical experimentation.

Hang in there, justice will prevail.

400754 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Ross Hendry, 12, #1010 of 1279 🔗

God I hope so

400769 ▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to Janette, 2, #1011 of 1279 🔗

Me too, it’s the only thing that keeps me going. There is more than sufficient evidence on the record that there should be nowhere to hide

400843 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Ross Hendry, #1012 of 1279 🔗

B is the only world I can entertain. Otherwise I’ll not be here in current form.

400758 Mark, replying to Mark, 42, #1013 of 1279 🔗


Enjoyable morning in Kate & Luc’s cafe in Burnage, having breakfast, teas and coffees just as though we were still living in a free country.

A good capacity crowd in, filling all the tables. Standing room only at the lunchtime peak. Not a mask in sight, that I saw, except on the council goons. A couple of the latter poked their heads in mid-morning and retreated quickly, with no more presence until closing time (2pm), when a couple of different, overweight and thuggish-looking council goons came to hand a large, menacing envelope to Luc. The letter was not opened, but most likely contains the threatened “further action” by the regime.

Lots of pleasant conversation and all in all a nice reminder of what life is like in a healthy, free society.

A start, but Kate and Luc are going to feel the heavy hand of the state unfortunately. We need more courageous business owners to stand up next to them.

400764 ▶▶ IvanDP, replying to Mark, 8, #1014 of 1279 🔗

Fantastic to see, hope everyone enjoyed themselves
All we need now are more businesses to join in.

400834 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to IvanDP, 3, #1015 of 1279 🔗

All seemed to be having a good time as far as I could tell. Only issue was that the staff were run off their feet so there were delays in getting your order, but entirely understandable in the situation, and not a concern for me. I wasn’t in any hurry to go anywhere, except to walk the dogs by and in the Mersey afterwards.

400765 ▶▶ BJJ, replying to Mark, 4, #1016 of 1279 🔗

What happened to the Federation of Small Business

400771 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to BJJ, 6, #1017 of 1279 🔗

At best, awol. At worst, collaborators.

400795 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Mark, 10, #1018 of 1279 🔗

Let us know if there’s a fine to pay and (assuming they decide to pay it) whether there’s a crowdfunding page to help out

400800 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Julian, 4, #1019 of 1279 🔗

I’ll update as and when I know anything.

400835 ▶▶ CGL, replying to Mark, 8, #1020 of 1279 🔗

And that’s how it should be – those that can cope stay and live, those that are too fearful stay away. Everyone use their own risk assessment to decide whether they want to be a part of civilisation or not.

400768 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 18, #1021 of 1279 🔗

Lots of error messages trying to access this site today.

400772 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Tom Blackburn, 4, #1022 of 1279 🔗

Likewise, I hope it is nothing sinister?

400785 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Steve Martindale, 4, #1023 of 1279 🔗

it’s only a matter of time before this site gets shut down – at any rate, the BTL section

400774 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Tom Blackburn, 5, #1024 of 1279 🔗

Yes, I noticed that too and very slow to load up comments

400775 ▶▶ Matt The Cat, replying to Tom Blackburn, 6, #1025 of 1279 🔗

Yep, it’s having problems for sure. Either that or it’s under attack from the “you know who’s”.

400779 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Matt The Cat, 4, #1026 of 1279 🔗

DDOS attack by 77? Had to log in via a Dutch VPN just to be able to load the comments.

400784 ▶▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 3, #1027 of 1279 🔗

I wondered the same. Does seem like the server is creaking a bit.

400787 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 5, #1028 of 1279 🔗

it’s only a matter of time before this site gets shut down – at any rate, the BTL section

400781 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Matt The Cat, 3, #1029 of 1279 🔗

Wait a bit before over-doing the paranoia. :-).

400783 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to RickH, 9, #1030 of 1279 🔗

My understanding is (in other words, I’ve been told by credible people) that ddos attacks are pretty commonplace for any significant dissident website. As to the identity of the perps, that’s another matter….

400786 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Tom Blackburn, 2, #1031 of 1279 🔗

I had that too trying to access the comments

400789 ▶▶▶ davews, replying to jonathan Palmer, 2, #1032 of 1279 🔗

Well seems OK again now but serious DOS attacks going on earlier. As you say it is only a matter of time.

400793 ▶▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to davews, #1033 of 1279 🔗

most of the comments appear to have gone missing. Try scrolling down

400790 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Tom Blackburn, 4, #1034 of 1279 🔗

If it is a DDoS, the cloud host will just automatically mitigate it, so that shouldn’t take the site down (though it would slow things down). I just saw connectivity errors, then a database error, then it connected, but without login cookies (had to re-login). This suggests to me that the webserver has been rebooted because of an issue. It happens.

400819 ▶▶ Ian Rons, replying to Tom Blackburn, 14, #1035 of 1279 🔗

Yeah, we had a bit of an issue on the server, I think fixed now. Nothing sinister going on, no DDoS or anything. We’re going to be moving to a bigger, better server over the next month so I think we’re fine generally.

400824 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Ian Rons, 2, #1036 of 1279 🔗

Like learning there’s no Father Christmas. If only 77th Brigade really were after us …

400832 ▶▶▶▶ CGL, replying to TJN, 2, #1037 of 1279 🔗

We’re too nice to be a threat to anyone 🙂

400856 ▶▶▶ davews, replying to Ian Rons, 1, #1038 of 1279 🔗

Thanks for the explanation. Having had my personal details hacked on another forum that had suffered a DDoS I was a tad worried. I expect when this site was originally set up it was never imagined it would grow so huge….

400932 ▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Ian Rons, 1, #1039 of 1279 🔗

See more conspiracy deniers, next they’ll be saying no alcohol in pubs.

400942 ▶▶▶ Basics, replying to Ian Rons, #1040 of 1279 🔗

LS going bigger and better!

400936 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Tom Blackburn, #1041 of 1279 🔗

Same. I’m not sure whether to be glad it’s not just me.

400773 Matt The Cat, replying to Matt The Cat, 4, #1042 of 1279 🔗

I was a little bit “sick in my mouth” when I read this latest report from the Beeb “On Da Ground” in duh Bwistol Manor innit;


400846 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Matt The Cat, 3, #1043 of 1279 🔗

I was more interested in the story next to it- “How Will We Heat Our Homes In Zero-Carbon Britain?”, by the vacuous patsy Harrabin, in which it is taken for granted that ZCB is both desirable and inevitable and that gas has no future in home heating, and in which we are told that we can expect inconvenience and increased expense in the cause of making our new transnational masters even wealthier and their bribed, overeducated shills in politics and the media feel good about themselves.

400993 ▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 1, #1044 of 1279 🔗

Norway shows how stupid a zerocarbon plan is for Uk. They have gone all electric with cars and houehold heating, because they have almost 100% hydro-electricity. So they now consume more peak demand than Sweden next door with a population 3 times the size. The UK would need 300GW of peak capacity, it currrently has a peak of about 50GW. Its utterly and completely impossible to close that gap with wind/solar. Harrabin and co must know this.
The only way this circle is closed is with very much reduced private car ownership and colder house heated by hydrogen replacing natural gas, which will cost £trillions.

400776 DRW, replying to DRW, 26, #1045 of 1279 🔗

It was nice to see the local playgrounds packed this afternoon, not even any swerving or mask idiocies. Not much but just nice to see people of all ages out enjoying themselves just like old times again in spite of this shitshow and its endless doom and gloom.

400788 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to DRW, 12, #1046 of 1279 🔗

yes, I noticed that car parks near local places where people park and walk were really full today. Lots of people seem to be militantly jolly well going for a walk and bugger Boris!

400802 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to DRW, 8, #1047 of 1279 🔗

Yes, down here on the Surrey/Hants border everyone was out and about, local places where people go to run/cycle/walk the dog were packed to the point where the car parks were full, and people were parking on verges, during normal times these places were never that packed. I also think the vulnerable who have had the first vaccine are feeling more confident to go out.

400806 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to DRW, 8, #1048 of 1279 🔗

Yes, it’s nice, but I’m starting to feel a bit annoyed – wish other things would open so I can have outdoor places back to myself again!

400828 ▶▶▶ CGL, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1049 of 1279 🔗

Yes – it’s really really muddy around here – too many people walking where they wouldn’t be normally (including us actually! 🙂 )

400841 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to DRW, 7, #1050 of 1279 🔗

Seen an old friend I hadn’t seen in a long time while at the park with my kid today. Big proper hand shakes and immediately agreed this is complete bollocks. Loved it.

400878 ▶▶▶ DRW, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 5, #1051 of 1279 🔗

Always a nice feeling when you come across another sceptic.

400782 Derek Toyne, replying to Derek Toyne, 30, #1052 of 1279 🔗

This year I decided not to bother with the flu vaccine not because I am anti-vaxx but because of two pieces of information. First last year the BMJ did an article showing that flu vaccines while protecting you against last year’s flu viruses increased your vulnerability to respiratory infections like covid. The other piece of information was that cases of flu in Australia had decreased by 98%. A similar thing in the UK as occurred where cases are down 95% and deaths 90%. I believe this is all because lockdown was designed to reduce the transmission of flu and hopefully covid. This brings me to I why I will hold having the covid vaccine, first I believe most of us are already immune to covid due prior immunity and exposure to covid last year and cold viruses. That and taking 25ug vitamin D a day as prevented me catching covid off my wife who coughed every day onto me over ten days. Lastly I believe instead of taking a vaccine every year should we not look after our immunity through vitamin D and looking after one’s health.

400797 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Derek Toyne, 4, #1053 of 1279 🔗

ADE is an interesting topic, this is a pretty good article, and goes some way to confirming your caution. Though the article plays down the possibility of ADE from the current mRNA treatments, some of the comments are very interesting and counter this suggestion:


400804 ▶▶ iane, replying to Derek Toyne, 14, #1054 of 1279 🔗

Flu is down dramatically simply because they no longer look for it.

400808 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to iane, 3, #1055 of 1279 🔗


400839 ▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to iane, 5, #1056 of 1279 🔗

And since last October 27th it’s been included with Covid in the UK statistics.

400842 ▶▶▶ Derek Toyne, replying to iane, 4, #1057 of 1279 🔗

I used to believe this but everyone I speak to as stopped getting flu. At this time of year we would expect around 10million people and around 10-20thousand deaths but I believe we are getting 1200 deaths. Some people believe where misdiagnosing flu as covid but the reduction in flu as been so massive and worldwide that something else is going on. That something else is lockdown which while reducing flu as failed to do so with covid.

400982 ▶▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to Derek Toyne, 2, #1058 of 1279 🔗

Erm, the PCR test is making sure its misdiagnosed, there is absolutely nothing else at work. The influenza virus has not magically disappeared.

400796 dommo, replying to dommo, 22, #1059 of 1279 🔗

in the last 12 months, has this “government” caused more harm to the country and its people than hitler ever did in any given 12 months of WW2?


400803 ▶▶ iane, replying to dommo, 6, #1060 of 1279 🔗

Yes – but, be fair, they had decades of educational destruction, AGW nonsense, PC and wokery to give them a good start!

400820 ▶▶ Ossettian, replying to dommo, 8, #1061 of 1279 🔗

Hitler didn’t hate the British people.

Almost all of our politicians support population replacement.

400829 ▶▶▶ dommo, replying to Ossettian, 7, #1062 of 1279 🔗

like it – what i’m hoping is that we can get to a position where we can justifiably say that “this government is worse than hitler”…

keep it up

400840 ▶▶▶▶ Ossettian, replying to dommo, #1063 of 1279 🔗

We have the evidence of the German occupation of the Channel Islands.

400830 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Ossettian, 1, #1064 of 1279 🔗

I wouldn’t argue with your first sentence; and the second is certainly worthy of discussion.

400972 ▶▶▶ Bill H, replying to Ossettian, #1065 of 1279 🔗

Goering failed.

Too busy shooting up to direct the Luftwaffe to destroy the RAF on the ground. Which they were well capable of doing.

So, good idea, this war on drugs .


400847 ▶▶ Biker, replying to dommo, 5, #1066 of 1279 🔗

Hitler told the British people the Americans were coming for our empire and would invade europe and what happened? We lost our empire and they invaded europe

400974 ▶▶▶ Bill H, replying to Biker, #1067 of 1279 🔗

Adolf nailed it then…..

Oops, I’ve been cancelled…

Like I give a shit !!

400805 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 2, #1068 of 1279 🔗

Here we go, somebody who wants to use the stick of immortality but wouldn’t take on the responsibility of choosing who has to die to balance things out:


Christina Pagel

THREAD ON FLU: Just an attempt to start a conversation about annual flu. I’m not an expert on this at all and welcome people’s thoughts and insights… Basic question is: how many annual flu deaths are acceptable?

400809 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Nobody2021, 9, #1069 of 1279 🔗

Lockdowns work, that’s why no flu. But Covid has the same transmission vectors, so why so much Covid?

She’s not very bright, is she.

400815 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to GrannySlayer, 1, #1070 of 1279 🔗

But flu has also vanished in Sweden and Belarus, but not in Cambodia which has had only a few hundred covid ‘cases’ and not a single death.

400850 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to rockoman, 3, #1071 of 1279 🔗

cos flu has just been renamed covid, idiots – I think we can all work that out

400849 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to GrannySlayer, 4, #1072 of 1279 🔗

She suggests that perhaps people should not go to work if they have flu symptoms – no one goes to work, or anywhere else, if they have flu symptoms.

400969 ▶▶▶ Bill H, replying to GrannySlayer, #1073 of 1279 🔗


She’s a cretin.

400810 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to Nobody2021, 1, #1074 of 1279 🔗

Maybe she can ask her “esteemed” colleagues at Imperial for another useless model to answer her very stupid question.

400868 ▶▶ jos, replying to Nobody2021, 6, #1075 of 1279 🔗

Most of the victims of flu, like ‘covid’, are the elderly and/or the very frail. Without flu people might live longer but, as my 99 year old mother keeps asking me, what are they living longer for? Exactly. Either make life worth living for the elderly by letting them see friends, family or anyone familiar or accept that respiratory illnesses over 90 are what used to be called ‘dying of old age’ and, more controversially, the old man’s friend. We’re all going to die eventually but the point is how to live well before you do – and, with the current state we’re in, there’s not much quality living going on.

400813 AN other lockdown sceptic, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 4, #1076 of 1279 🔗

Interesting …

“Absolute Proof

– 100% Irrefutable Proof of the 2020 Election Fraud”


400945 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 1, #1077 of 1279 🔗

What is TIME up to?
Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears….After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result…”
Last week – any talk of collusion is a dangerous Trumpian conspiracy theory… Now it’s more like – well yes there was collusion & a secret conspiracy plan, but it had to be done; whatcha gonna do, suckers?!

400967 ▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 2, #1078 of 1279 🔗

Simple, they want everyone to know they did it, can do it again anytime they want. Resistance is futile. Its how to break people’s will to fight. And it usually works if people fear they have enough to lose. Hence UBI for everyone.

400816 The Covid Kid, replying to The Covid Kid, 9, #1079 of 1279 🔗

Anyone else thought this…? 🤔

400817 ▶▶ Ossettian, replying to The Covid Kid, 16, #1080 of 1279 🔗

I commented months ago that if you saw him outside a junior school you’d be tempted to call the police.

Same for Van Tam.

400823 ▶▶ TJN, replying to The Covid Kid, 16, #1081 of 1279 🔗

Much as I dislike what he is responsible for, I can’t see that that is fair.

400825 ▶▶▶ Ossettian, replying to TJN, 8, #1082 of 1279 🔗

Why do we need to be fair to these scum?

400838 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Ossettian, 30, #1083 of 1279 🔗

Because a decent society is fair to the worst of its members. The worst of criminals should have a fair trial.

By all means take the man down on his professional track record. But we can hardly complain about people like Mike Yeadon being hounded out if we use the same tactics.

400848 ▶▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to TJN, 6, #1084 of 1279 🔗

it’s not the same tactics – nobody is slandering Whitty in the sense Yeadon was slandered (eg hacking into his social media and planting paedo material in his name) – at worst you could accuse us of vulgar abuse, admittedly a rather low pleasure, but considering what this man is intent on – which I actually think is nothing less than genocide – I think we can be permitted a little cheap sneering

400859 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to JaneHarry, 2, #1085 of 1279 🔗

But surely it is similar tactics? I’ll go for a technical take-down over cheap sneering every time.

(I’m off now, so apologies I can’t continue.)

400861 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to JaneHarry, 6, #1086 of 1279 🔗

When Elon Musk publicly called someone a paedophile, a court ruled that it was not defamation, libel or slander, but merely an insult.

400950 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #1087 of 1279 🔗

If being called a paedophile is considered “merely an insult”, that means it’s been normalised. Worrying!

400996 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Steve Hayes, #1088 of 1279 🔗

Fraud tosser probably is

400862 ▶▶▶▶▶ Skippy, replying to TJN, 8, #1089 of 1279 🔗

A decent society has died. We need to start fighting back, by always upping our attack.
They want fists, we bring bats.
They bring bats, we bring knives.
They bring knives, we bring guns.
And so on.
The time for nicety for those who Tell US that WE are wrong, I say fuck you and spit in their face.
We have been too benign and supine, it is time for us to wake from our slumber and take back our lives

400910 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to Skippy, 1, #1090 of 1279 🔗

When I read ‘bats” I thought it was an obscure covid reference!

400998 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Les Tricoteuses, #1091 of 1279 🔗

If you think that you must be a bit bats!

400997 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Skippy, 1, #1092 of 1279 🔗

Well said I’m with you

400987 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to TJN, #1093 of 1279 🔗

Oh do fuck off these scum need killing they donotgive one fuck for you or me.

400881 ▶▶▶ danny, replying to TJN, #1094 of 1279 🔗

Agree. Must admit when scrolling through the comments just now though, it did make me laugh!

400984 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to TJN, #1095 of 1279 🔗

Never has more truth been said in jest

400827 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to The Covid Kid, 5, #1096 of 1279 🔗

Dunno about that, but he’s definitely a virgin.

400865 ▶▶▶ Skippy, replying to Dermot McClatchey, #1097 of 1279 🔗

That’s not what his mommy says

400863 ▶▶ DRW, replying to The Covid Kid, 2, #1098 of 1279 🔗

Possible but I’d say psychopath.

400866 ▶▶ Nymeria, replying to The Covid Kid, 1, #1099 of 1279 🔗

No. His wank mag of choice would be The Lancet.

400983 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to The Covid Kid, #1100 of 1279 🔗

Die cunt

400822 ekd, replying to ekd, 17, #1101 of 1279 🔗

I suggest we put to rest the old fashioned verb “to die”, and embrace its new form, “to covid”. We can adopt a good Anglo-Saxon past tense : “he covad”. And: “they have covud”.

400888 ▶▶ ekd, replying to ekd, 3, #1102 of 1279 🔗

An example of usage: “my cousin was suffering from breast cancer, we thought the treatments were working but then she took a major turn for the worse and sadly she covad”.

400995 ▶▶ Annie, replying to ekd, 2, #1103 of 1279 🔗

We already have a word for it: to sadlidie. Only covvies sadlidie. Everybody else just dies.

400833 BeBopRockSteady, 6, #1104 of 1279 🔗

When Pharma companies target Dr X and Prof Y:


They will have a serious operation to do this today

400844 Biker, replying to Biker, 28, #1105 of 1279 🔗

Here’s a treat for you old duffers out there struggling with the lockdown, You’re maybe twenty odd years past your prime, bored out your fucking mind, your mrs offers you a blow job and you’d rather not, you’re considering growing a mullet, you suddenly miss friends that have been dead twenty years, you’ve started drinking Stella again and it’s fucking good, you’re so fucking sick of smug bastards being all so serious, condescending and virtuous, you’re having violent thoughts about hunting down the people from the masked singer and burying them alive in the deserts of Lochore and you’re so down you’ve even been feeling sorry for Bono. So you think what i need is some new tunes from a band doing it. Not some record company faggots, not some woke gender confused wanker, not some lefty tossers but straight up weird as fuck out there art for people who know we’re apes not monkeys



Don’t thank me, just crack open a tin of Stella, do this especially if you’re an alky and on the 12 step programme. Skin up a fat number, find Liam Gallagher on Twitter and call him out for being a council house twat, make a facebook account and find an old flame and tell them you’d fuck them one more time. Get as out of your tiny mind as you can and proclaim that you could take Street Jesus in a square go, in or out of the octagon. Tune out, turn off and get fucked. Tomorrow? Fuck tomorrow. Now is as good as it gets. Say ten hail mary’s for not standing up for anything in your pitiful life previous to this shakedown. Now is the winter of our discontentment, it’s cold, wet and dark and it’s down to you. When Cabbie said “Snake, i heard you were dead” you be the Duke of New York A number 1.

400852 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Biker, 9, #1106 of 1279 🔗

Are you Irvine Welsh?

400855 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Ganjan21, 1, #1107 of 1279 🔗

He’s Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth.

400913 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Ganjan21, 2, #1109 of 1279 🔗

He wishes he was me but to his credit (i don’t like his books much but i have read a couple of them) i was at a Bobby Conn gig in the Venue in Edinburgh and he was there dancing and being off his tits. Any fan on Bobby Conn is a friend of mine. here’s his great song “You’ll never get ahead giving head to the man” it’ a valuable lesson in life and you only get one chance to learn it


400853 ▶▶ stevie119, replying to Biker, 1, #1110 of 1279 🔗

I especially liked the first one.

400854 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Biker, 3, #1111 of 1279 🔗

Don’t know about Stella – never did care for it much. Special Brew for me. But you can’t get it anymore.

Looking back, denying us Special Brew was a harbinger of this shitshow.

Off for a cask-strength single malt now. Before they ban that too.

Edit: can’t even spell shitshow anymore.

400951 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to TJN, 2, #1112 of 1279 🔗

A man who likes Special Brew is a drinker. i can appreciate that.

400857 ▶▶ stevie119, replying to Biker, #1113 of 1279 🔗

Here`s a good one to get fucked up to! Nearly 20 minutes! 4 bassists and 1 drummer. Plus a bloke on the twiddly bits.

400858 ▶▶▶ stevie119, replying to stevie119, #1114 of 1279 🔗
400948 ▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to stevie119, 1, #1115 of 1279 🔗

Yeah i like it.

400964 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bill H, replying to Biker, #1116 of 1279 🔗

On yersel Bike.

400883 ▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to Biker, 1, #1117 of 1279 🔗

For some reason the news that Kim-Jong Nik’s collected speeches are to become part of the ‘curriculum for excellence’ (well, it’s only a matter of time) reminded me of this toe-tapping number:



400887 ▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to Biker, #1118 of 1279 🔗

Cheers, always good to find new music. Shades of Iggy Pop in Viagra Boys.

Here’s something for you

400933 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 1, #1119 of 1279 🔗

sounds like Black rebel motorcycle Club

400952 ▶▶▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to Biker, 1, #1120 of 1279 🔗

They’re just starting out, now a year of shit and bands like this need live music not just YouTube. It’s this generation getting screwed over more than most.

400962 ▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 8, #1121 of 1279 🔗

Good luck to them.
I miss gigs. Going to gigs, playing gigs, clubs, pubs, festivals and busking. I am sick to death of being told to stay in my fucking house. I’m an artist and i need to be doing shit. I feel most of the people whom support lockdown do fuck all and it’s no hardship to them but for me it’s a killer.

400845 Cheezilla, #1122 of 1279 🔗

This was posted earlier. It’s a really good discussion:

400860 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 18, #1123 of 1279 🔗

I looked at the latest NHS dashboard up-date, ‘covid’ cases in hospital are well down, deaths are nothing to elicit dramatic public health action and so why are they not, right now, announcing the end of the circus packing up the tent and going home?

In my view, Johnson may be incompetent, lazy and have no leadership or inspirational qualities but he can play politics. He has announced that the May local elections are going ahead, he wants to string this lockdown along until the last moment then set us free so that the conservatives will do well in those elections. He can then go to the G7 in Cornwall in June as the Global Covid Hero, who has conquered Covid and won an election, this will then pave the way to the UK Climate Change meeting in the Autumn when he will probably come down in a cloud from the mountain, like Moses, and be the Global superhero of covid and the climate.

Or perhaps I am being too cynical?

400864 ▶▶ DBSR, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #1124 of 1279 🔗

Not at all. Spot on.

400871 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #1125 of 1279 🔗

it might explain why Yeadon’s twitter account needed to be eliminated one way or another.

400874 ▶▶ dommo, replying to Steve Martindale, 9, #1126 of 1279 🔗

the conservatives are going to get fucking slaughtered in those elections

400959 ▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to dommo, 5, #1127 of 1279 🔗

I sincerely hope so and for Labour to get fucked over too if only because they kept saying that they would have done it sooner and harder.

400980 ▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 3, #1128 of 1279 🔗

Traitor wankers as well

400880 ▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to Steve Martindale, 9, #1129 of 1279 🔗

No, that is exactly his game – he is performing his duties, just not to the people who elected him. Next stop, head of the UN.

400903 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, 8, #1130 of 1279 🔗

I know, i’m sick of these fuckers who don’t think this is being controlled by shadow forces and think we have control of our countries and it’s all just a big mess by incompetent people. This is the big change over to the one planet on crew bullshit dreamed of by lefty wankers.

400900 ▶▶ AN other lockdown sceptic, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #1131 of 1279 🔗

Sadly, I think that your hypothesis is spot on.

Remember, the pig dictator stated as a child that he wanted to be ‘world king’

400941 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #1132 of 1279 🔗

Stop looking at those graphs. They are juiced.

400979 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #1133 of 1279 🔗

Fucking fat cunt die bastard

401014 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #1134 of 1279 🔗

He wants us to rise from the ashes on Easter Sunday. Good PR.

400990 ▶▶ Annie, replying to crimsonpirate, 1, #1136 of 1279 🔗

Take your own alcohol.

401000 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Annie, 1, #1137 of 1279 🔗

don’t worry, a hip flask will be the must-have accessory this spring

400879 Laura Suckling, replying to Laura Suckling, 24, #1140 of 1279 🔗

It may just be me but I feel they are really fucking with us now:

Two masks are better, three to be safe
Anal swabs from China
Fucking bastarding new variants, Kent, South African – what about fucking Angelonia, Venezuelan, Afghani, Marshan
No alcohol in pubs, I mean what the actual fuck?

400884 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Laura Suckling, 9, #1141 of 1279 🔗

“I wonder what these saps will swallow next? I know, we’ll give everyone an anal swab before they’re allowed to put their bins out! That’ll be a laugh!”

400891 ▶▶▶ Laura Suckling, replying to Jo Starlin, 8, #1142 of 1279 🔗

I am honestly thinking if someone from SAGE advised it, they probably would.

400904 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Jo Starlin, 3, #1143 of 1279 🔗

Well, in Austria from Monday hairdessers’ salons are open again, but you have to present a negative test from within the previous 48 hours in order to get your hair done.

400917 ▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to rockoman, 12, #1144 of 1279 🔗

Germany discussing sth like this, too.
Closure of salons has driven hairdressers and clients underground and the govt is afraid they will all get infected and pass it around.
Nothing about keeping a business going.

400920 ▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Silke David, 4, #1145 of 1279 🔗

I’d love to find an underground hairdresser! My former stylist in Toronto will see me at his home but I live 2+ hours away now. If I get desperate I’ll stay with family and make a trip to the city for a day or two. If I were a hairdresser I’d go mobile for sure — government can’t shut you down that way.

400924 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 19, #1146 of 1279 🔗

Speakeasies, underground hairdressers.

Humanity routing around bureaucrats and regulations.

I think some places have seen underground church meetings too.

400929 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to rockoman, 7, #1147 of 1279 🔗

Glad to see it. They can get some business back and avoid paying tax. Governments deserve this.

400949 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Tom in Scotland, 2, #1148 of 1279 🔗

Until cash is phased out.

400953 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Jo Starlin, 8, #1149 of 1279 🔗

Back to barter.

In a strict economic sense cash cannot be banned – merely ,ade less efficient.

Cash defined as the most marketable good.

Other goods/commodities take over the role.

400966 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jane G, replying to rockoman, 6, #1150 of 1279 🔗

I wish I knew of an underground vet. I fear my 21 yr old moggy will not recover from this stroke – practically paralysed and am hydrating her with a syringe. The bastards would expect me to hand her limp little body over to the assassin for lethal injection with me waiting out in the rain, and collect her corpse after paying for the deed. Far too unsafe to do it with her in my arms. God, I’m loathing people….

401011 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Jane G, 1, #1151 of 1279 🔗

We had to have our mog put down in LD1. Found a mobile vet who agreed to do it in the garden, albeit masked and gloved. There’s no way I could have done it otherwise. Is that something you could investigate? Took us a while to find one who would do it. Actually found them online, Cloud Nine vets, not sure what areas they cover though.

401063 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jane G, replying to A. Contrarian, #1152 of 1279 🔗

I’ll enquire – thanks. I’ve been googling other vets and haven’t asked mine yet, but it’s Covid central round here so I fear the worst.

401078 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Jane G, #1153 of 1279 🔗

Covid central here as well but I was able to find a sceptic vet. But even the hysterical vets make an exception for end-of-life and allow one to go in with your pet. Many vets will come to the home as well. I’m so sorry you’re having to go through this at this insane time.

401040 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to Jane G, 3, #1154 of 1279 🔗

That’s so heartbreaking. But some vets do let you go in with your pet, so its worth asking around. I had to get my little cat put to sleep in the first lockdown and was terrified they wouldn’t let me in with her but although we had to wait in the car with her instead of waiting room, they let both me and my dad in with her and were able to hold and cuddle her to the end. It was a dreadful experience as she was only a baby but made bearable by being able to be with her. My thoughts are with you.

401064 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jane G, replying to Old Trout, 1, #1155 of 1279 🔗

Sorry this happened to you. I couldn’t send her to die with a stranger – it would feel like a betrayal after all the years of love.

400922 ▶▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Silke David, 7, #1156 of 1279 🔗

They will be worried too about people getting used to all the advantages od a black market economy.

Pehaps some people will prefer it that way.

400886 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Laura Suckling, 6, #1157 of 1279 🔗

Anyone know if William Shakespeare of Warwick had his second jab yet?

400895 ▶▶▶ Laura Suckling, replying to jonathan Palmer, 19, #1158 of 1279 🔗

He has had it, no ill effects and expected to live for another 10 years. If he fails to reach the age of 120 it will be a ‘tragic death’.

400901 ▶▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Laura Suckling, 15, #1159 of 1279 🔗

His parents will be devastated.

400930 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Jo Starlin, 5, #1160 of 1279 🔗

Clever. 🤪 🤣

401080 ▶▶▶ Countrygirl, replying to Steve Martindale, #1162 of 1279 🔗

And I’ll dance on your grave til I’m sure that you’re dead. Love Dylan, his music never ages.

400893 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Laura Suckling, 16, #1163 of 1279 🔗

Yep the frog is being boiled, went shopping today, totally dismayed by the amount of muzzles worn outside. And for only the second time since this whole shit started I got challenged about not wearing the symbol of oppression, not once but twice.

400992 ▶▶▶ Draper233, replying to Andrew K, 3, #1164 of 1279 🔗

My experience at Sainsburys earlier was OK. No challenge at the door and actually saw 2 – yes 2!! – other people without nappies. This is 2 more than i’ve seen for quite a while.

That said I boycotted one of the local Morrisons branches a couple of weeks ago after a security guard tried to insist I wore a lanyard. I berated him, got him to call his manager to put in a complaint, and the manager agreed to educate him. It was the same branch where I was challenged by the Met only a couple of weeks prior, so have opted to take my business elsewhere.

400885 Andrew K, replying to Andrew K, 40, #1165 of 1279 🔗

I think I may have found some kryptonite for this whole charade. Everytime I mention Ivermectin and HCD, Vit C&D I get jumped on, by what it seems the 77th. To me it looks like they know, if people find out there is a prevention/cure/treatment for this flu then people will be less scared, angry with leaders for denying these drugs and people will be less willing to take the experimental poison knowing that once they get the flu with special name they can be treated and then also have immunity. People need to know about these drugs, we have to put pressure on everybody, from those in health care to the political scum. Play them at their own game and accuse them of murder.

Remember folks: Look in their eyes and tell them why they are not been given effective, well known cheap, over the counter drugs that will make them better.

400916 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrew K, 14, #1166 of 1279 🔗

Exactly right. And now there are peer-reviewed studies supporting the use of these cheap, effective, and relatively safe medications. I keep thinking about Nick Rose and how he might have been treated when he first came down with symptoms. I think we should all have the following on hand: Vitamin D3 (4,000+ iu per day), Vitamin K2, Magnesium (theonate, malate or citrate), Zinc (8-30 mg), Vitamin C (500+ mg) and Quercetin. I take these every day, but it’s basically the at-home Zelenko protocol if you can’t access HCQ or Ivermectin. I implore everyone to have these easy-to-source supplements on hand and take them at the first sign of sickness or prophylactically. I don’t believe our doctors are treating with HCQ or Ivermectin here in Canada, so I’d rather prevent serious symptoms at home if possible. Nebulized hydrogen peroxide (food grade) can be administered at home as well (see link). We can’t trust the “experts” but my caveat is to do your own research if you’re on any medications such that any of these supplements could pose a problem.


400925 ▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 6, #1167 of 1279 🔗

Thanks Lisa, great info there. Was taking Vit D3 but only 1000 iu until yesterday when I heard you need at least 2500 iu. Generally taking these minerals and vitamins will keep many bugs away.

400937 ▶▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 6, #1168 of 1279 🔗

Thanks – I started taking D3+K a while back (inexpensive for 4000 iu online if you search a bit) and C+Zinc, plus a basic multivitamin. I’ve read a lot about D and took your advice about the added K (the tablets have both). Scotland is dark, even in the summer, and this could be one reason why we have the world’s highest rate of multiple sclerosis. I remember milk and some other food products being fortified with D and other vitamins growing up in the USA and this has been proposed here, but with no success. Amazing what we could do if the authorities had any common sense.

400999 ▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #1169 of 1279 🔗

Really good website here, giving comparative numbers for Covid, HCQ, Inver mectin etc etc and a listing of all the trials that have taken place for each one.
Play around with it.

When posted elsewhere, it sends the govt loyalists and paid tr olls for big pharma into frothing denial & whataboutery.

400928 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Andrew K, 7, #1170 of 1279 🔗

They were over the counter in France until February 2020. Just a coincidence, I suppose.

Leaflets, stickers, pamphlets

400985 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Andrew K, #1171 of 1279 🔗


400894 Jo Starlin, replying to Jo Starlin, 18, #1172 of 1279 🔗

I’ve been thinking back of late to the pub smoking ban. I really think that was a warning, which to my shame I ignored as I’m not a smoker.

400899 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Jo Starlin, 9, #1173 of 1279 🔗

First, they came for the smokers.

400905 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to rockoman, 5, #1174 of 1279 🔗

Precisely. I watch a lot of old football on YouTube as well and the sanitisation of the whole experience is astounding.

400911 ▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Jo Starlin, 6, #1175 of 1279 🔗

Yeah – I like watching football from the 70s – muddy pitches and packed terraces.

Sanitization will perhaps be the end of our society, and we will deserve it quite honestly.

400914 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to rockoman, 12, #1176 of 1279 🔗

I’m only in my 40s and I can remember when you could make your mind up to go to an away game on the day it took place.

400927 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Jo Starlin, 6, #1177 of 1279 🔗

Kill spontaneity and you kill part of the experience.

Perhaps poverty will sort it out.

Regulation and santization cost resources.

400978 ▶▶▶▶▶ Draper233, replying to rockoman, -1, #1178 of 1279 🔗

And no, sorry, but muddy pitches are fine for rugby, but not the beautiful game.

400973 ▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Jo Starlin, #1179 of 1279 🔗

And rugby real scrapping like when I played

400915 ▶▶ ekd, replying to Jo Starlin, 21, #1180 of 1279 🔗

Yes. There’s a direct connection. I don’t know how many times I tried to explain to people that the denial of property rights entailed by the smoking ban was unjustifiable in a free society and would open the door for untold future abuses. I’m not a smoker. And that makes no difference, or shouldn’t do. Also, the “science” behind “passive smoking” was totally fraudulent. And even if it wasn’t, in a free society people should be allowed to estimate risks for themselves.

I didn’t foresee “Covid”, I suspect the downward spiral could take many forms and this is the one we’re stuck with now.

400939 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Jo Starlin, 7, #1181 of 1279 🔗

The smoking ban and the seatbelt law were two of the most glaring warning signs of encroaching illiberal totalitarianism wrapped up in safetyism.

Correctly termed safety fascism by those few of us resisting them.

Lockdown was just the next step, and the passes had already been sold for any lines of defence against it.

400944 ▶▶ arfurmo, replying to Jo Starlin, 3, #1182 of 1279 🔗

The bit I don’t miss is going out to watch the second half so being in pub for about 1 hr 35 mins and coming back with clothes and hair stinking of smoke.

400947 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to arfurmo, 6, #1183 of 1279 🔗

I didn’t like smelling of smoke but I think a greater principle was involved.

401034 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Jo Starlin, -4, #1184 of 1279 🔗

Yes – just like I felt when they stopped me pissing in someone’s beer and crapping on the floor. 🙂

401130 ▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to RickH, #1185 of 1279 🔗

you’re a total knob bro

400954 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to arfurmo, 5, #1186 of 1279 🔗

A bit like with lockdown, the problem was with the coercion. If people wanted smoke-free pubs restaurants, nightclubs etc, they were free to set them up (and there were a few around).

Personally I never minded the smell of smoke much, but I was a smoker myself at school and gave up when I was at university.

401041 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Mark, -6, #1187 of 1279 🔗

… and if the minority wanted to smoke, they were free to stay at home and invite others round with some cans.

401066 ▶▶▶▶▶ stevie119, replying to RickH, 1, #1188 of 1279 🔗


401071 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ ekd, replying to stevie119, 1, #1189 of 1279 🔗

Double twat.

401132 ▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to RickH, #1190 of 1279 🔗

man what is it with you? How come you’re such a fucking cunt?

401070 ▶▶▶ ekd, replying to arfurmo, 1, #1191 of 1279 🔗

You twat. And now all the pubs are shut because other people’s breath is bad for you.

400971 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Jo Starlin, 2, #1192 of 1279 🔗

At least my clothes didn’t stink well apart from piss and puke.

400977 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to Jo Starlin, 1, #1193 of 1279 🔗

Looks like i’m gonna make myself unpopular here but seatbelt wearing, the pub smoking ban and reform of football terraces have all been progressive steps in my opinion.

I was no longer a smoker when the ban came in but still actually opposed it and favoured some sort of halfway house at the time. However, I would never reverse it back now. It’s not so much the passive smoking, but more the stink of my clothes and hair that I don’t miss.

Similarly, when I used to go to the football in the eighties as a kid, it was often ugly and occasionally terrifying. I’m not saying the modern day corporate-led experience is ideal, but I know which version I would prefer for my own kids.

As for the seatbelt-wearing, even if you want to argue it’s your own risk, RTAs involving fatalities actually take a serious amount of time to investigate, so reasonable measures that can minimize this have to be a good thing.

401001 ▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to Draper233, 1, #1194 of 1279 🔗

Evidence that seatbelts have reduced RTA’s is where?
They have reduced the risk of a collision to the cars occupants, but due to risk tolerance and compensatory behaviours they have made sharing the road with cars more dangerous for other road users, cyclists, pedestrians etc.

401006 ▶▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Nessimmersion, 4, #1195 of 1279 🔗

No, can’t agree with that. Compulsion may have been wrong, and I was affronted by it at the time, but not wearing a seatbelt is plain daft.

401037 ▶▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to redbirdpete, 1, #1196 of 1279 🔗

Anyone who thinks the wearing of seatbelts is a an infringement of liberty and comparable to what is happening now has really lost their sense of proportion, and probably their marbles.

… and whilst health fascism is a real problem, the smoking ban in pubs was totally reasonable. I was a smoker, but got to realize that the ban was necessary when it dawned on me what it inflicted on others.

401069 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ ekd, replying to RickH, 3, #1197 of 1279 🔗

We don’t care what “dawned on you”. Oppression is oppression. If you don’t like cigarette smoke, don’t go where smoke is.

401134 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to ekd, #1198 of 1279 🔗

Don’t argue with rick, he’s a 65 year old Billy Bragg fan i.e a total fanny

401133 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to RickH, #1199 of 1279 🔗

anyone who thinks like you is a fucking moron. A dull as fuck stupid motherfucker who has nothing but banal socialist pish to hide their miserable stupid fucking life behind. What a fucking rotter

401032 ▶▶▶▶ Draper233, replying to Nessimmersion, 1, #1200 of 1279 🔗

Deaths and injuries have plummeted since the 1980s:


Obviously this isn’t all down to seatbelts, but given that the number of cars on the road has increased dramatically, we should actually be proud to have a world-class safety record on our roads.

401067 ▶▶▶ ekd, replying to Draper233, 2, #1201 of 1279 🔗

Given what you have said, you have no grounds to object to any freedom killing measures which can be justified by “public health” or “public safety”. Weak-minded thinking like yours has brought us here.

You don’t like cigarette smoke? Don’t go to places where people smoke. Or create your own smoke-free zones.

Afraid of football stadiums? Watch TV instead. I’m afraid of sky-diving.

Seatbelts? That’s so obvious I’m not even going to comment.

400897 Biker, replying to Biker, 4, #1202 of 1279 🔗

I don’t think the Guardianista like Billy Nomates but i fucking do, she cool


401009 ▶▶ Morse, replying to Biker, 2, #1203 of 1279 🔗

Yep, she’s great, love her colab with Sleaford Mods as well.

400898 Jo Starlin, 8, #1204 of 1279 🔗

Take your non-alcohol pubs and shove them up your arse Whitty et al. Where’s Al Capone when you need him?

Oh it’s-a lonesome away from your kindred and all
By the campfire at night we’ll hear the wild dingoes call
But there’s-a nothing so lonesome, morbid or drear
Than to stand in the bar of a pub with no beer

Now the publican’s anxious for the quota to come
And there’s a far away look on the face of the bum
The maid’s gone all cranky and the cook’s acting queer
Oh what a terrible place is a pub with no beer

Then the stockman rides up with his dry dusty throat
He breasts up to the bar and pulls a wad from his coat
But the smile on his face quickly turns to a sneer
As the barman says sadly the pub’s got no beer

Then the swaggie comes in smothered in dust and flies
He throws down his roll and rubs the sweat from his eyes
But when he is told, he says what’s this I hear
I’ve trudged fifty flamin’ miles to a pub with no beer

Now there’s a dog on the v’randa, for his master he waits
But the boss is inside drinking wine with his mates
He hurries for cover and he cringes in fear
It’s no place for a dog ’round a pub with no beer

And old Billy the blacksmith, the first time in his life
Why he’s gone home cold sober to his darling wife
He walks in the kitchen, she says you’re early Bill dear
But then he breaks down and tells her the pub’s got no beer

Oh it’s hard to believe that there’s customers still
But the money’s still tinkling in the old ancient till
The wine buffs are happy and I know they’re sincere
When they say they don’t care if the pub’s got no beer.

400926 Tenchy, replying to Tenchy, 5, #1206 of 1279 🔗

Is it disappearing? See the Worldometers graphs of “cases” and deaths for the global data. Select the 7-day moving average option.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 106,273,662 Cases and 2,317,410 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic – Worldometer (worldometers.info)

400934 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Tenchy, 8, #1207 of 1279 🔗

No because they are not going to let it disappear.

400938 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Tenchy, 9, #1208 of 1279 🔗

No, they’re just trying to make it look like the vaccine is making a huge difference.

400940 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Tenchy, 10, #1209 of 1279 🔗

In the official ‘covid death’ figures Sweden is falling and falling down the list.

“Let’s look at the siuation in one year”

Anders Tegnell in May 2020

400943 Covidonian, replying to Covidonian, 22, #1210 of 1279 🔗

Re the neo temperance approach. Scotland is the proving ground. We live in a public health police state. Many comfortably off middle class people in government and public health, think the rabble are drinking too much. Reams of health statistics which dispense altogether with the concept of causation, associate it with violence and poverty. They see an opportunity in Covid just as environmentalists who want to shut down flying do. We should also be aware that as long as politicians have a covid condom to protect them they can ride out everything from Brexit balls ups, to Sturgeon and her consort’s attempt to frame political opponents. This is an worrying time for democracy. We need vigilance and resistance. Sadly as a Scottish libertarian socialist I can only see that coming from a section of the Tories or Sadly for me a UKIP sequel.

400957 ▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to Covidonian, 12, #1211 of 1279 🔗

Yes, Scotland is going down a dark path and I’m very worried. I was hoping Sturgeon might need to resign due to the Salmond affair, but the parliamentary committee is largely toothless and cannot seem to compel people to provide evidence. If the ‘Dear Leader’ skates through this, she’ll probably take the SNP to a majority of seats in May, facing an even futher fragmented opposition. What’s most worrying, though, is her Svengali effect on most Scots, who seem to think she is the messiah. I just don’t understand how people can be so gullible (but then I’ve been saying this for 11 months now).

We need resistance, but I’m not sure how this will happen. I think it will soon get to the point here where people who are able to leave Scotland will do so, in large numbers. Even with its problems, England is preferable.

400955 PastImperfect, replying to PastImperfect, 10, #1212 of 1279 🔗

This lady is calling for action.
Essential viewing

400965 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to PastImperfect, 10, #1213 of 1279 🔗

Great video. Yes she is absolutely right.

Ties in with something Delores Cahill said – in one interview I believe she says they have evidence that some PCR tests are not sequencing covid RNA, but something related to the flu virus instead; and as she points out, if someone affected by this takes formal measures against an individual Dr (not necessarily an institution as a whole) it goes on their record & has to be investigated.. when it comes to things like looking at their medical licence, there are obvious repercussions. This is how change is instigated & addressed.

401028 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 1, #1214 of 1279 🔗

I think she said, correct me if I am wrong, that they have taken cases against Doctors in Northern Ireland who put Covid on a death cert on ‘suspicion’ or due to a + covid test?

She throws these anecdotes out but this should be more publicised. She is planning a Belfast appearance in March. I hope to attend

401045 ▶▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #1215 of 1279 🔗

I think you’re correct, yes she makes ref to various goings on in videos & interviews but I too haven’t seen a lot of facts or figures. But yes, the idea & principle is solid I think – if someone thinks their own personal head is on the block, so to speak, chances are they will take notice!

Not just the medical profession who need a dressing down,- I happened in the room the other day when a relative was channel hopping and the One show was on in the background – absolute shamless use of Captain Sir Tom’s death, in a way it was a bit sickening; Michael Ball & Alex Jones saying: he was so desperate to have the vaccine but was denied the chance because of his illness (*there seems to be some debate, I realise MSM previously said he had it*) but anyway they said, the best thing, accordingly, would be for everyone else to get the vaccine…

400956 2 pence, replying to 2 pence, 8, #1216 of 1279 🔗

Meanwhile in Russia.

Streamed live on 5 Feb 2021

Friday Night with Anastasia. Jazz at “The Hat”. St Petersburg, Russia

400958 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to 2 pence, 12, #1217 of 1279 🔗

Life, joy, sociability, happiness. Call me an eccentric but I kind of miss that.

400961 theanalyst, replying to theanalyst, 6, #1218 of 1279 🔗

The Sun reporting yet another bad reaction to the vaccine. This time the first born son of Katie Price, and only 18 years old rushed to hospital…..time for some in the media to wake up this ongoing atrocity ?


400968 ▶▶ Biker, replying to theanalyst, 11, #1219 of 1279 🔗

That Harvey kid has a tough life. Poor bastard.

400970 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to theanalyst, 3, #1220 of 1279 🔗

He is fucked already

400981 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to theanalyst, 10, #1221 of 1279 🔗

Interesting that the 2nd half of the article is pointing to his underlying conditions… in case the worst happens.

So far only people aged 70 years old and over have been offered the vaccine.

And this, of course, is not true.

400994 ▶▶ Janette, replying to theanalyst, 7, #1222 of 1279 🔗

Wow I am surprised they were allowed to publish that!

401026 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to theanalyst, 3, #1223 of 1279 🔗

Oooh deery me..this is going to twig out the normies….

“What do we call people who give us dodgey vaccines Harvey?”
“We call them C……”
“OK” lets go to the weather…

401062 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to theanalyst, #1224 of 1279 🔗

doctors are said to have confirmed his illness was a reaction to the vaccine.

Hmmm! Truth will out!

400963 captainbeefheart, replying to captainbeefheart, 28, #1225 of 1279 🔗

We all know that masks are not good enough.

I recently thought I’d try and give up smoking again. I went to the local vape shop to find a notice saying “Click and collect only”

I knocked on the door (whilst saying “click click click”) and the kind shopkeeper came to the door.

I explained that I had not ordered anything online and went on to ask if he could help fix my old vape that I had not used since before last March (for some reason I started smoking real cigarettes again after last March – can’t think why – it was just after I ran out of fingernails that I’d not been biting for a while)

He kindly explained that he might get fined £6,000 for doing this (as the covid police had threatened him with this before), but sorted out my vape and also let me buy some extra nic shots for it.

Anyway, after having a few puffs, I thought hat maybe everyone should be vaping in public. This way, other people would be able to see which bits of air they should avoid breathing in.

I tried to see if my “mask” (a tartan scarf) stopped the vapour, but for some strange reason, it didn’t.

The only thing we can do now is force everyone to vape.

We could also make the vapour green like in those adverts. I know that mankind put a man on the moon before inventing suitcases with wheels on, but surely we can manage this!

400976 ▶▶ captainbeefheart, replying to captainbeefheart, 14, #1226 of 1279 🔗

Sorry, I didn’t actually finish my rant…

WHY THE FUCK is it OK to go to the shop everyday and buy a newspaper, or a pack of fags, but not go into a vape shop to try and stop smoking??????

ON WHAT PLANET does this make sense?????????


Thanks for reading, feel better now.

401017 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to captainbeefheart, 3, #1227 of 1279 🔗

I have been mixing my own for a while. Its very affordable, unlike eliquid you buy in vape shops. VPZ do good mail order too and are a generally good company with lots of choice.

401031 ▶▶ isobar, replying to captainbeefheart, 2, #1228 of 1279 🔗

Given that Public Health England have stated that vaping is 95% less risky than smoking, the closure of Vape Shops is lunacy. We are governed by morons!

401002 Biker, replying to Biker, 2, #1230 of 1279 🔗

Here is a series of testimonies from covid cult members before they take the vaccine

401021 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Biker, 1, #1231 of 1279 🔗

Scary stuff

401015 Ceriain, 5, #1233 of 1279 🔗


Fake televised injections with no solution in the syringe are an affront to our intelligence. Please stop.

401016 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 8, #1234 of 1279 🔗

The last 24 hours in France has seen new hospitalisations fall by 50% with more discharged than admitted, and new ICU patients also down by 50%. Continuing trend.
‘Cases’ still 20k because of mad ‘testing’, but almost all are asymptomatic.
School holidays started, so if this trend continues through them I think its likely some restrictions will ease later this month.
Its not a ‘lockdown’ at present but still curfew after 6pm and all bars/restaurants closed, and bloody masks in shops and some town centres.
Borders with EU/EEA open but need the dreaded PCR in 72 hrs negative; UK is a special hybrid case, not EU/EEA but not 3rd country either ( which are more or less closed except for 21 special reasons). Still no talk of idiotic ‘hotel quarantine’,thank god.
We will need PCRs now to return from Canaries, my route via Barcelona and train is now covered, so might as well fly back to Toulouse if nothing changes by end of March.

401029 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to peyrole, 2, #1235 of 1279 🔗

You are naive if you think this is ending. This is ten years long.

401053 ▶▶ ekd, replying to peyrole, 4, #1236 of 1279 🔗

It is a lockdown. There is no “normal” life. Kids are force-masked in school. Going unmasked in the open air in any street or park in Paris or many other cities is illegal. Take the metro and there is endless public speaker Covid propaganda assaulting your ears without end. The atmosphere is oppressive, masked police snarling at you. You can’t board a plane to escape without showing a “covid-negative” test pass. Paris looks like a war-zone with ludicrous MASH-type tents erected outside every chemist shop for testing the sheeple.
It is illegal to leave your abode after sundown. No cafés, no restaurants, no pubs.

401018 2 pence, replying to 2 pence, 6, #1237 of 1279 🔗

Dead Kennedys
album: “Plastic Surgery Disasters” (1982)

Government Flu

We got a drug
we’re gonna try it out on you
won’t make you die
it’ll getcha just a little bit sick

got a head cold
got a chest cold
and it’s three days old
(goin’ on forever)
make you hazy
make you lazy
drive you crazy
for days and days and days and days and days
and years
Barely got the time now
to stay on the job
double up the dosage in your water supply
make you even sicker ’til you’re slippin’ away
Getting all depressed
it’s getting all your friends
you can’t get it up
for nothing that’ll rock the boat
The government flu
the government flu
the government flu
Slip it abroad
keep a-slowin’ down the ussr
but meanwhile
we’ll keep an eye
on what it’s doin’ to you

got a head cold
got a chest cold
and it’s three days old
(goin’ on forever)
make you hazy
make you lazy
drive you crazy
for days and days and days and days and days
and days and days and days and days and days
and days and days and days and days and days
and years
The government flu
the government flu
the government flu


401019 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to 2 pence, 3, #1238 of 1279 🔗

One of my favourite tunes

401022 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 3, #1239 of 1279 🔗

Take a look/listen. She could have recorded this yesterday – yet it’s from April 2020. She certainly got a handle on it early!


401033 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Banjones, 6, #1240 of 1279 🔗

Even today I had to explain to my wife that they made this shit up

401025 Jonny S., replying to Jonny S., 11, #1242 of 1279 🔗

Police in Bacup have raided a speakeasy on an industrial estate. Along with A fully functioning bar it had snooker table, table football and a large tv. Apparently 10 people were fined for breaking covid rules but police were bewildered to find two sheep there also.
Anyone whose been to Bacup will wonder why there were only two.

401052 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Jonny S., #1243 of 1279 🔗

Were the sheep the equivalent of a heating system?

401035 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to merlin, 4, #1245 of 1279 🔗

This was revealed in a recent report in Ireland. It had to be forced not to be sealed.


40,000 babies used in vaccine trials. The whole report is off the scale.

401036 ▶▶▶ merlin, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #1246 of 1279 🔗

Sick motherfuckers

401038 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to merlin, 2, #1247 of 1279 🔗

It’s insane. The idea of being patriotic to a state and its religious high priests that could engage in that is baffling to me.

Add to that the laundries, the pedophilia, it’s unreal the level of sickness now evident in that era

401055 ▶▶▶▶▶ ekd, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #1248 of 1279 🔗

The regime that has been place in Ireland since 1921 is not “Ireland”. It was just that one ruling coterie was replaced by another… on reflection, it would probably have been better if the status quo has been maintained, by kidding the Irish into believing they were being ruled “by themselves” they let their guard down and now the whole country has gone to shit.

401042 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to merlin, 1, #1249 of 1279 🔗

A friend of my father’s was given experimental LSD while in hospital in UK suffering a nervous breakdown after the sudden and tragic death of his son.

401061 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Cheezilla, #1250 of 1279 🔗

Ooh blimey. I bet that didn’t help much. Did it drive him insane? Medical grade LSD…OOOhhhh mamma. Terrifying

401075 ▶▶▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Two-Six, #1251 of 1279 🔗

In defence of science, there is recent evidence of the efficacy of hallucinogens in careful amounts in certain mental conditions. Just sayin.

401043 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to merlin, 2, #1252 of 1279 🔗

This is pretty funny, LSD being given to British Marines

401056 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1253 of 1279 🔗

RAF Cloud Seeding Experiment caused 1952 flood in Lynmouth

401060 ▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, #1254 of 1279 🔗

Millions of UK citizens were used in secret Bio warfare trials

401048 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to merlin, 4, #1255 of 1279 🔗

Timing of this vis vaccines? Are the DM trying to wake the public?

401057 ▶▶▶ merlin, replying to Andrea Salford, 2, #1256 of 1279 🔗

If I had taken the mRNA vaccine in good faith I would not be feeling too clever after reading this.

401077 ▶▶ Nymeria, replying to merlin, #1257 of 1279 🔗

Judging from the comments, looks like a few more sleepy heads are beginning to awaken.

401039 rockoman, replying to rockoman, 4, #1258 of 1279 🔗

Covidians – Stepford version 1975


401046 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to rockoman, 9, #1259 of 1279 🔗

Even Stepford didn’t envisage masks.
I find the idea and reality of them abhorrent and sickening yet the majority of my circle aren’t bothered. I KNOW I’m right but it’s so difficult.

401044 Andrea Salford, replying to Andrea Salford, 16, #1260 of 1279 🔗

At 19 I remember being not just bereft but confused and saddened when my nana used to say ‘I’m glad I’ll be dead by then’ at whatever ‘new normal’ was being proposed. Also I remember seeing ‘A Man For All Seasons’ and wondering why he didn’t just ‘sign up’. Now I get it. Now I know what they both meant. Now ‘I hope I’m dead by then’ ‘cos I sure won’t accept the new normal/vaccine/bullshit.

401049 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Andrea Salford, 5, #1261 of 1279 🔗

Indeed. Richard Rich is alive and well, and working in the Cabinet Office.

401074 ▶▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Dermot McClatchey, #1262 of 1279 🔗

Spoiler alert. lol. (I assume you are referring to Mantel’s fictionalised account.) I gobbled up Mantel’s first two but the doomladen final book has already stopped me twice. It feels to grim to read in these grim times. Just can’t read it.

401050 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #1263 of 1279 🔗

But for as long as possible we’ve got to try to make a difference, no matter how small. There may be more of us than we think – and we may be needed.

401058 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Banjones, 4, #1264 of 1279 🔗

I think there are many more of us than we think. The number of muzzle-wearers is misleading. I’m convinced that most of them just go along to get along, or to avoid fines.

I think we need to just reach some critical proportion.

Things are moving our way and I think that by late Spring the narrative will be under considerable pressure.

401059 ▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Banjones, 7, #1265 of 1279 🔗

For sure. I’m a long way from giving up, it actually fires me to stand firm and fight for what I believe.
When I say to people ‘lockdown of healthy law abiding people is criminal. Denying children their education and freedom is criminal’ I feel empowered, because they either get it and I’m in the majority or they don’t and I’m in the minority but either way I know we’re right and I’ll go down fighting.

401051 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #1266 of 1279 🔗

Same here.

I remember reading as a child about reincarnation. I wondered why Buddhists and Hindus wanted to escape the endless cycle of rebirth. Surely, I thought, isn’t it great to be reincarnated ….

Well, now..

401082 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #1267 of 1279 🔗

In the o,ay, More says again and again that he fervently wishes he could sign, but he can’t, It isn’t just conscience, it’s because to sign would be a betrayal of his whole being, a total spiritual death. He can’t do it.
And we can’t yield to the coronabollox..

401047 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 10, #1268 of 1279 🔗

I’d like to know what people think – so I’ll repeat this tomorrow But just in case anyone’s still up and compos mentis….

Everyone who gets jabbed should be told about the ‘yellow card’ and that they MUST report adverse reactions. As it is, people ARE having these reactions but maybe taking to their bed for a few hours (my neighbour, a couple of rellies, and an elderly friend) and when they recover are relieved, and they don’t ”make a fuss”. So there won’t be many reports at the moment from those who just struggle on.

And how fiendishly clever to begin the experiment with the oldies, those less likely to report symptoms, so that by the time it reaches the younger ones, more likely to whinge about not feeling too good, the damage will be done.

401054 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Banjones, 4, #1269 of 1279 🔗

My in laws and brother (NHS) have had the jab so far but knowing where I stand on matters I know they won’t report anything negative to me. However anecdotally so far I haven’t heard any bad experiences (70s & 50s) and loving them dearly I hope that remains the case. However I still won’t be having it and neither (to date) will my mum (82).

401068 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Banjones, #1270 of 1279 🔗

Yes very clever of them

401072 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Banjones, #1271 of 1279 🔗

Me mentis is just about compost but yes, I agree. Shout it out. I don’t think anyone here should worry about repeating stuff. What matters is the goal.

401140 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Banjones, #1272 of 1279 🔗

Agree. All adverse reactions must be reported

401065 rockoman, replying to rockoman, 11, #1273 of 1279 🔗

In Gemany a legal action by a group of lawyers has resulted in the release of Email correspondence, showing tht the government pressued scientists – in March – to produce modelling, which would deliver the justification for ‘preventative and repressive’ measures.

Link in German


401079 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to rockoman, 5, #1274 of 1279 🔗

I believe something similar happened here.Sage didn’t advocate lockdown so they sent for someone with a history of exaggerated models,Ferguson.Boris made his loved ones will die speech on March 13 so the decision was made by then.Ferguson arrived at Downing St on the 16 with his apocalyptic model.
Lockdown was always a political decision,Ferguson admitted as much when he saw Italy and said we can get away with it.

401073 captainbeefheart, #1275 of 1279 🔗

“The hugest experiment in the history of medicine”


401076 rockoman, #1276 of 1279 🔗


401081 Cecil B, #1277 of 1279 🔗
401090 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, #1278 of 1279 🔗

Did the new page just appear and then disappear?

401091 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Cecil B, #1279 of 1279 🔗

I cannot see any new page.


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