2021-02-10

Ten years’ prison for lying. And this is not fascism?

Darren Grimes: Why I Haven’t Been Posting As Much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNkiYhXkwro&list=WL&index=35

“Darren Grimes confirms that he hasn’t been ‘Trumped’ by YouTube. He, like many, have struggled during this lockdown.

In pursuit of minimising one disease’s impacts, we have heightened the effects of others. I hope one good of this sorry saga will be that the shame circling mental health is exiled for good.”

Stop appealing to your captors for help Darren

What a pathetic young man.

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” — Plato.

Oh, sorry, that wasn’t very nice. I take it back.

Can’t lie to the state.
But it can lie to you .

I was taught trust is a two way thing, which is why i’ve never trusted government.

And a fine decision I am of the same mind,I mean what is there to trust.

Is Wankok more mad than he is evil, or more evil than he is mad?
Quem deus vult. perdere prius delirat.

He’s a wrong un either way. I had hoped Pfeffel might reshuffle the silly bastard with some hogwash that he is a war-time consigliere, but it appears they both want to go down the piano wire route.

When Boris and Nutnut shoot themselves in the bunker, will Wankok poison his wife, his children and himself?

Don’t tell me he and his wife have foisted more Wankcocks on the world?

It appears so, according to the video of him and brat(s) enjoying themselvesd in the park released a while back.

He possesses the sort of troubled ego that would. Kay Burley appeared to have him sussed and got him onside with lashings of over-the-top praise. He’s the type of fragile man we could persuade to get a tattoo that commemorates this special time and his role in it. Maybe that’s a bit too subversive.

Fingers crossed.

If only ….

It was all bought up from music shops b4 the crisis hit… they foresaw the revolt.

Hamitup’s far too useful being the obvious patsy right now.

No one can be reshuffled.They all know where the bodies are buried.

Either way – the mere sight of his ugly, self-satisfied little face is enough for me to feel my blood pressure rising.

Me too. I really must stop spitting at the screen, it gets in such a mess.

I need a new clock radio in my bedroom after one of his announcements I er, turned the radio off in too forceful a manner and it er, fell apart. Don’t build them like they used to!

Glad to hear im not the only one.

‘Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad’.

– Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

Well,let’s hope it won’t be long then.

Issac Asimov’s best story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves

I honestly just don’t think he is all there. He seems to be on the aspergens/ autistic side of the spectrum. You only need to look at the video of him flopping in his chair in the commons or the creepy interview with the blond woman outside the hospital.

I suspect this allows him to remain dissonant to the devestation he is causing.

Yes, I’ve been wondering that. Johnson is clearly troubled when he speaks; Twitty and Van Tampax do to a certain extent also. Hancock just looks calm and composed, even faintly amused by it all. Can’t help thinking he knows a lot more than he’s letting on.

Naaaaa he’s just a dick.

I think he is a sad sack

Who gave Matt the green light? Hmm?

It is absolutely ridiculous. Goodness knows I can think of someone locally that was only in prison for months for drink-driving and killing someone in the process. So longer prison spell for having a holiday than for drink-driving/resultant death on the one hand or rape on the other hand is ridiculous. Just because someone wanted a bit of sun and headed to another country to get it!

It’s high time the travel industry stood up for itself.

They will receive their payoffs, don’t worry, but the ‘travel industry’ for the lower middle classes is OVER.

Yep. Holidays for the foreseeable future will be like in the old USSR – overseas travel very difficult. Camping and hostels for the masses, heavily restricted and regulated hotels for the favoured few. We may not even be allowed that if restrictions on interior movement are retained. We may only get ‘holidays at home’ (restricted to local area) like in the war.

Not ridiculous at all. It is a staggered move to isolate certain populations. It is obvious given the island nature of the United Kingdom that harsher policies like mandatory vaccines will be tried out on a population that cannot escape. Possibly crowd control weapons that we haven’t yet seen used in public.

Hard fascism is coming fast. Enjoy it!

You know that something is massively wrong when REAL crimes such as rape and murder can get much less than that!!!

So the question arises as to what sort of way political prisoners would be treated in prison v. the actual criminals that would rightfully be in there. I know I’d certainly be calling myself a political prisoner if I were in there – to make it very plain I wasn’t a criminal/shouldnt be there.

Do you think Amnesty International would campaign on my behalf?

Unfortunately we can’t rely on Amnesty International as we don’t fit into their Messiah tendencies.

HA! Amnesty International is co-opted. And it NEVER gave a shit about white people like you!

In 1984 the normal criminals are treated much better than the political prisoners.

I’ve read that it is the Fraud Act that would be used, which does have a maximum of 10 years imprisonment; however that would require a crown court trial by jury.

Well they did use the magic words up to 10 years.

Where did you read that? I wonder because it directly contradicts what Matt Hancock told parliament. He said that the law to criminalise lying about where one had been would be introduced this week. This means the law does not yet exist. Moreover, lying about where one had been would not be fraudulent.

Irony – a politician introducing a law to criminalise lying eg “three weeks just to flatten the curve”

Not that I’m promoting rule breaking, but here’s my thoughts in rhyme on this new jail time.

Hancock shall never dictate,
Who of us shall be an inmate,
If I go to Peru,
What can Hancock do?
He is not in control of my fate.

We must seek a sound alibi,
If to the cops we must lie,
To escape quarantine,
And our freedom redeem,
Our records we must falsify

It’s fascism. Not “Marxism”, not “communism”. Fascism. And had the last month’s events in the United States happened in, say, Ecuador, or Azerbaijan, they would have been called out as what they were.

Just taking a glance over at the Marxist fist on the ‘Free-speech Union Advert’…

Hancock should be locked up for about 10,000 years in that case.

It’s Fascism Jim, and we know it.

Define ‘we’.

‘No Escape From Stalag Britain’ – title of the 1st article of the day.
‘Ten years’ prison for lying. And this is not fascism?’ – 1st top 140+ upvoted ‘community’ comment made at approx. 4pm in British-time morning.

Both comments deliberately driving opposition opinion away from describing this tyranny for what it is: communist.

No coincidence.

This is a false opposition website and it needs called out.

Edit: That was meant ‘ 4am ‘ British time – pretty damn early…

The category that has most benefited from the coronavirus responses are the billionaires, who have seen their wealth increase by trillions of dollars. This transfer of wealth is not communism. Communists do not throw money at the capitalists.

Handjob (before): “vaccines will solve all the problems”
Handjob (now): “vaccines might not solve all the problems”
Me: “STOP INSULTING MY FUCKING INTELLIGENCE!”

In January, the (fortunately very few) zealots that I know, were crowing about how close we were to the vaccine ending the restrictions, and so it was doubly important that we follow the rules . I am no virologist but I do know viruses mutate. From what I can gather there are thousands of strains of Covid. Now, the policy makers have admitted this fact and also admitted they have quarantined 100,000,s of non infections people because they have been running the PCR tests at over 25 cycles. So just WHEN do these zealots expect this to end???

We are living in an age where ‘here no evil, see no evil, speak no evil’ is the new mantra of the general public. Most people are aware that viruses like colds and flus mutate every year, just as they are aware it get colds in winter and warm in summer (mostly). But it seems the majority of people out there have lost all prior knowledge or life experience in favour of following ‘the science’. It is a master class in mental manipulation!!
You can’t point any of this out to these sheep; just as you won’t be able to point out the cycle rate, the fall in infections due to seasonality etc.

Yep…well I’ve been saying I’m doing a Three Wise Monkeys act of “hear no evil/see no evil/speak no evil” – but what I am referring to is I don’t notice (apparently LOL) any Lockdown rule-breaking and am not a Covid snoop.

Never

If the UK were applying the same rules to ” cases” as New Zealand the crisis would be over here as well.
NZ requires
1) A 2nd confirmation PCR test of a first positive.
2 )PCR tests run up to 23 x Ct.

Hey Presto – crisis over and a virus free island.

The current virus SARS-Cov-2 causes the Covid 19 pneumonia. 99.95% who get that disease recover. SARS 2 is 78% the same as SARS 1 – that’s why it’s called number 2 – and all these current mutations, instead of ‘Kent’ ‘Brazil’ etc, could be called SARS 3, SARS 4 etc. The good news is that basic virology tells us that mutations, though more transmissable, are usually less harmful so let’s tell these ‘our souls’ to Foxtrot Romeo Oscar.

You are going to need some bigger numbers. There were ~78,000 variation back in April 2020, with at least 300 in the UK. There are probably double that now.

Ferguson quoted today saying the Kent variant blindsided them. Its shows how much SAGE know about viruses and how desperately they need to have a lot of virologists advising them (AFAIK there are none on SAGE). They are fucking useless. The NN (I think) posted about Clades yesterday, I had never heard of them, so I looked it up. I was educated, viruses randomly mutate all the time, its not breeding, its just random because they are such simple organisms. It cant be contained, stopped, predicted or managed. Which is exactly why there is no vaccine for the common cold viruses. They aren’t smart they aren’t anything, they are just viruses, one of the simplest forms of life.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.30.402487v1.full
If anyone reads this they would understand this whole shit show is a vanity and money spinning exercise. No one in the civil service or government seems to spend a minute of their time educating themselves and as for Joe Zealot, they get their news from mumsnet and facebook and Piers Moron so it must be true..

They need more clinical scientists and doctors of medicine as well as economists. The people they have are ‘academic’ people with no medical training whatsoever.

Most of them are behavioural psychologists. The rest are merely their mouthpieces.

Most of them are vaccinators, so it is entirely unsurprising that vaccines, vaccines and even more vaccines are the answer.

What you say might have been true, if all this nonsense was really about combatting a novel coronavirus. It isn’t, so what you and some others are suggesting wouldn’t work in any event. The rabbit hole goes much deeper.

Their ignorance is just a facade for the public who know no better. It all feeds into ‘the myth of danegrous and unknown territory with the brave scientists valiantly struggling to cope with an Evil Virus. This nonsense would be over if the real medics/scientists had the guts to stand en masse. “All it takes for evil to succeed is good men to do nothing”?

The vaccines work.
Well we need to change the dose plan but they still work.
Well we might not be able to give this one to over 70s, but take this one.
Well we might need a booster in autumn.
Well we might need a mixture of vaccines. With boosters.

Yes you should wear a mask and lock yourself indoors.

Kerrrchinggg!

It’s all about the Benjamins baby, as some young female US politico from The Squad bravely said.

Virus’s will mutate. So the risk can never be reduced to zero. The logical extension of this is that we should restrict travel to the immediate locale, be it city block or village. A country is far too big an area to allow unrestricted access and be able to contain a mutating virus at the same time. We should venture out in a hazmat suit, and then only for emergencies or to clap to the NHS gods once a week. The rest of the time should be spent indoors. We should spend the entire GDP on vaccines and daily PCR testing. This should continue for the next 10,000 years or so, longer if people do not comply. It may seem excessive but if it saves just one life it is worth it. Remember that we are all in this together and to please put a rainbow picture in your window. These can be purchased from Amazon.

Virus’s will mutate. So the risk can never be reduced to zero.

so true – would have thought any virologist would know that

I wonder if any of these “scientists” are really who they say they are.

I have started to give the lizard theory more credence…

Who knows? Hancock is Health Minister yet he has degrees in philosophy and politics. A bit like me training as a hairdresser but seeking a job as a shorthand typist.

No. He has a degree in PPE.

… along with a disproportionate number of others in the HoC.

‘Nuff said.

And that’s not personal protective equipment

So he isn’t even up to being a dodgy secondhand car salesman? Wot is the woild coming too?

Also death from disease will be illegal and anyone found guilty of dying will have to spend ten years in prison the selfish bastards.

Long since worked out how to walk to the (very nearby) next county on back ways – in case they put up county boundaries one isn’t allowed to walk over. I just won’t speak to any of those living just across the county boundary in a settlement there – because I know there’s quite a high proportion of Covidians amongst them and that, coupled with a big tendency locally, to ask exactly where one lives (and it is often asked in order that they can graciously make up THEIR minds how I should live MY life LOL).

I’ve been doing the same. Worked out the back routes around my area a while ago; which ones are useable by motor car, which ones accessible only on foot or by bicycle. Have been progressively doing longer and longer bicycle rides, the intention is to be able to do without a motor car if necessary, ie if movement outside one’s area is restricted (realistically that can only be done by ANPR, so a bicycle will not be checked).

Just carry a bit of paper saying “Can’t speak; valid reason for travel concerning mental health”. They will soon foxtrot including the unwashed.

Why does Hugo Stolkin spend so much of his email to Harriet Harman establishing his woke credentials and boasting about his wonderful life and in the process make sure that his email is far too long to be absorbed? Being generous, perhaps, as someone ‘connected’, he knows that Harman is as inhumane and power obsessed as the rest of them and only lashings of wokeness and pressing all the available buttons has any chance of penetrating her hide. The second paragraph is the only one that matters although a slimmed down version of the third and fourth might have been worth adding.

If any MP is unaware of what is going on by now then I doubt any letter is going to have any effect.I could list everything you are not allowed to do but it would take too long.Basically life consists of going to work,shopping in supermarkets and going for a walk in the park.And millions of people are unable to work by force of government edict.

Why is he even bothering to appeal to Labour/Starmer? The only criticism the Opposition have presented is the government should have been more draconian and have been quicker about it, and should have spent even more inflicted even greater harm.

Be’s bothering because to do something is better than to do nothing.
And it will help to prove, at Nuremberg, that these witless, spineless, pseudo-political poodles knew perfectly well what evil was being done in their name, and sent along with it, in many cases enthusiastically.

to do something is better than to do nothing

This is not a given. The very reason we are in this mess is because people (in government) have done something when actually they should have done nothing.

Time after time, in fact, ‘something must be done’ is the hue and cry from the media and the public. To which the politician responds, ‘well, this is something, so we must do this’, no matter how nonsensical the ‘something’ is. All because they conclude that, as you say, “to do something is better than to do nothing”.

First do NO harm

Agreed. The best advice to give the public sector is “don’t just do something, stand there”.

These days the clear statement of woke credentials are required before they will look at the content of the letter. Although to be fair, writing to the Labour Party was pointless. It’s not as if they’ve offered any viable opposition to government for the last ten years.

Just to put this into more detailed perspective :

The election of Starmer has put the Labour Party firmly back in the hands of pole-climbing establishment shills. The regime has ‘come out’ and tried to frantically shut down the active involvement of members through the established system of accountability and substitute diktat by unelected functionaries.

Meanwhile, the surge of know-nothing placemen/women as MPs that happened under Blair has continued to have its continuing effects in terms of the Commons.

… as we’ve seen vividly throughout this situation.

He’s a pragmatist. He’s doing anything he can to get her to see he is rational. MPs ignore most of our emails and send a stock reply because they’ve been warned an evil right-wing extremist group (driven by QAnon) is determined to infect everyone’s minds with conspiracy theories. Because, in the beginning, most of us who knew in our gut something was wrong but couldn’t show what, had no evidence. So we did all sound like conspiracy theorists. But sometimes a theory is TRUE. Sometimes there IS a conspiracy. The BBC conspired to hide Jimmy Savile, the police conspired to hide the truth about Hillsborough. Governments and tobacco companies conspired to hide the truth about the dangers of smoking. These things were covered up for YEARS! That is where we are. Except this time the harms are all worse and more wide spread. But you will never get the attention of an MP or mainstream journalist by saying, “the whole thing is a complete con and now people at dying from a hastily approved vaccine.” You HAVE to nudge the door open with, “Look what a rational person I am, I’m on your side, always have been, here’s a picture of my normal, rational self… please will you consider that there is a different picture than the one you are being constantly fed.” Because they ARE being constantly fed a different picture. They are scared, too. They can’t see their mates. They are locked up, looking at screens. They have been forced into masks and pressured into pushing vaccines. The idea that the health minister is guilty of crimes against humanity is too far fetched for them. You have to dial it all back in order to get them to engage. It’s frustrating – when we know the whole charade and have see the nightmare unfold from the inside – but people, including MPs have been severely brainwashed. They don’t have our perspective. We have to help them, not attack them. Harriet is a decent woman. I hope she starts to wake up.

Hannah Arendt said that totalitarianism brings about, in otherwise intelligent people, ‘a quite authentic inability to think’.

https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/attheintersectionoffaithandculture/2020/04/a-curious-but-quite-authentic-inability-to-think-the-making-of-the-flat-curve-society-and-the-corona-walkers.html

As witness the blank uncomprehending faces we are already finding when we tell people we know (even those we used to think of as friends) that we’ve decided not to have The Jab. It’s like it does not compute with them and they regard having The Jab as automatic/not to be even thought about as a decision to make for/against.

Exactly. They always look at me like I’m a cross between a psycho and leper. I’ve stopped telling the brainwashed fools. Very saddening.

So true.

Harriet is a decent woman.

‘Harriet’ spent her time in the late 70s and early 80s, along with Patricia Hewitt, providing legal assistance to an organisation called ‘the Paedophile Information Exchange’.

This is not a conspiracy theory. This is fact. Harriet Harman tried to make fucking children respectable.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paedophile-rights-campaign-still-causing-stink-harriet-harman-40-years-1437152

Tell me more about what a decent woman she is.

Indeed. The pair of them were a disgrace. Harman claimed there was ‘no evidence that children are harmed by early sexual encounters’. She is quite a stupid woman – she gave her young sons girls’ toys to play with and was puzzled when they weren’t interested in them. So, we can see that inept and totally unsuitable persons being voted into parliament is nothing new.

Harriet Harperson.

I noticed that too. Subconsciously he is aware that the content will be totally disregarded unless it is made clear very early on the he hates Brexit. At least he knows his audience. These MPs are fascist, bigoted, moronic idiots masquerading as liberal human rights warriors. If she got a whiff of anything more conservative than Marx it would be binned or sent to the Stasi as a hate crime.

In fact I am wondering if we would be better off prefacing our MP letters with “I am a Brexit-hating, post-human, trans woman, identifying as a non-binary mixed-race unicorn, vegan (in January, except Chicken) who drives a Prius and an avid Guardian reader (Personal pronouns: Xe/Xim)”.

Pathetic

Excellent TBP, thanks, I’ll try your last paragraph on Whately. I think driving a top of the range Tesla might have more cut through in these parts amongst her voters.

Sometimes its easier to get an answer if you knock on the door instead of kicking it in. I’m the kicking in kind, but in life I have seen others get a lot more success than me by knocking.

So, to clarify….

The average rape conviction is 7 years. But your getting 10 years in prison for lying about travel destinations.

OTT punishments and extended restrictions are the beginning of Zero COVID policies. International travel is now unachievable outside of high level sports and the ruling classes. The government is positioning for the NZ/Australian model. ‘Variants’, ‘vaccine resistant’ are the buzzwords that will drive this policy.

On another note, did anyone work out what happened to the Flu? I noticed a heavily subsidised FB video appeared which seems to be saying that COVID has killed off the Flu in a biological sense. I also read it is down to social distancing and the use of unregulated, face masks . Either way, why isn’t there more of a fanfare for the elimination of this endemic disease that has been described in texts going back over 2500 years? I would expect this to be front page news.

Good new is not allowed.
Not that I believe the flu claim anyway. It’s part of the Great Covid Lie.

Not that I believe the flu claim anyway. It’s part of the Great Covid Lie.

Me neither. Almost certainly misattribution. Small chance of out-competed. what say Yeadon?

Opinion is very divided.
It could be:
1) Misattribution.
2) Zealotry
3) The flu may have been supplanted in the host by a newer similar virus in the process alleged above and as detailed over 40 years ago in “The Transmission of Epidemic Influenza by R Edgar Hope- Simpson” which was also commended by Ivor Cummins in his podcast 104 on Vit D
So the last supplantion theory has serious credibility.

It is very unlikely that socialist distancing and muzzles have stoped flu dead and make no difference to Covid, the methods / vectors of transfer are alleged to be the same.

That’s one of the interesting things about all this. There’s never any real good news. There are hints and rumours and announcements about mights and maybes, but never anything concrete. If anything like that comes up, ie, ‘vaccines will save us’, the government quickly pours cold water on it with some new fear porn.

I am pretty sure that previous authoritarian regimes, eg the Nazis and the Soviets, did not do this – they knew that good news was important to keep spirits up. Even late into 1944 the Germans were claiming in newsreels that they were winning the war and victory was just around the corner.

This lack of even the slightest hope for the population may just prove to be the downfall of the government – even a prisoner in jail has a release date.

If you look at the ONS figures for deaths involving flu and pneumonia in 2020 they are at the same or a slightly higher level than the average of the last 5 years for the period after March.

Why does virtually nobody look at the COVID situation rationally, even accomplished statisticians who you would expect should know better.

I have been looking at numbers from 4 countries, concentrating on the excess death count, the most objective of figures.

Firstly, the UK. We have a very reliable analysis of excess deaths on an age adjusted mortality basis (AAMR – i.e. adjusting for differences in population and ages between the calendar years) from the institute and Faculty of Actuaries. This shows that there were 54,600 excess deaths in England and Wales over the period from the beginning of the pandemic (14 March 2020) to 1 January 2021. What is interesting is that 51,000 of those were in weeks 10-24 (14 March to 14 June), minus 6900 from 15 June to September 13  (i.e fewer people died than normal in that period), and 10,500 from 14th September to 1st January 2021. So the vast majority of the deaths last year were in March – May, particularly April when excess deaths were running at around 11,000 per week. But to put that into perspective take the oldest and worst affected population demographic, the over 90s. They have a 1 in 4.6 chance of dying in a normal year and last year the chance was 1 in 4.1, an increase of 1 in 46. So they lost most of the meaning and joy in around a quarter of their remaining life for a relatively very small reduction in the chance of dying.

Next, look at France, as we will inevitably be told that the UK is improving more rapidly than the EU as we have successfully rolled out the vaccine. Well if you look at the Insee (French ONS) numbers you will see that the daily excess death rate comparing January 2021 to January 2019 is getting close to zero Download the daily deaths files − Number of daily deaths | Insee For the week ending 18 January 2021 there were 13,782 total deaths compared to 13,700 for the week ending 18 January 2019. It looks like it’s nearly done there – even the government realises there shouldn’t be another lockdown ! Could the UK be following a couple of weeks behind ?

Next, we have of course that old favourite punch bag of the terminally innumerate reality deniers (lockdown supporters as they would call themselves). You can quite easily download two files from the government statistical office (SCB) and do a comparison of age and population consistent death rates for the last few years. You will find the following: in 2020 there were 95,462 deaths. In 2019 on an AAMR consistent basis there were 87,790 (8.1% fewer) – a fair size gap but not something worth shutting an economy down for – well done Sweden, until your ridiculous King got involved ! It then gets more interesting: in 2018 on this basis there were 92,768 deaths (2.8% fewer than 2020) and in 2017 – 94,249 -just 1.3% fewer and if you take into account the fact that there was an extra day in 2020 the difference was just 1%. So 2020 wasn’t an exceptionally bad year, in fact it was 2019 that was unbelievably good (similarly to the UK).

Finally, let’s look at the US, where nearly one quarter of all the COVID deaths in the world have supposedly taken place – over 450,000. Or have they ? The official COVID death count for last year was 402,369, however excess deaths taking age into account (AAMR basis)  were around 362,000. Even more interesting were the excess deaths over 75 years old which were only 167,484. Now, in every country in the world (other than the official US figures) 75% of COVID deaths are amongst the over 75s, so the probable deaths from COVID were most likely around 223,312 (168,464 divided by 0.75). In other words, per capita an outcome better than the UK.

So why are the medical and political establishment so innumerate ? That is a question I can’t answer, as it has been obvious to me and many others here, since March 2020, that COVID was going to kill but at around the same level or lower than those dying of causes including flu and pneumonia (last year it was roughly half this level) and would affect predominantly the very old.

Since then, this has been proven absolutely correct, and it has also been shown that lockdowns achieve virtually nothing other than in cases where they were started very early (e.g Germany, Poland, Switzerland) where they have served only to delay deaths for a few months but then catch up.

We who have been against lockdown from the start, particularly of the under 70s (what I suggested in March 2020), should be proud. The medical community and the politicians, and those pathetic statisticians who ran along with them, need to explain why they have destroyed tens of millions of lives.

Why are our oppressors so innumerate, you ask?
It’s an old question, though its lethal consequences have only become fully apparent since the beginning if the bollox.
Somebody, I think it was John Allen Paulos, pointed out long ago that whereas to be illiterate in our society is thought to be shameful – or at least, a shameful condition that is somebody else’s fault – no stigma attaches to innumeracy, which many people admit to with a laugh, or even boast about. The abysmal standard of school mathematics is both a symptom and a cause.
Yet another abscess in the rotting body of British society.
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From an Amazon synopsis of Paulos’ book Innumeracy :

“A humorous study which suggests that our inability to deal rationally with very large numbers, or the probabilities associated with them, results in misinformed governmental policies, confused personal decisions and an increased susceptibility to pseudo-sciences of all kinds.”

And how.

Last year I encountered a fourteen year old who asked me, ‘What is twice 43’, ‘Eighty-six’. I responded. He seemed very pleased to have his problem solved.

Endeavouring to teach him something I said, ‘So what is twice four’. ‘Six’, he answered. I frowned, ‘Oh sorry, five’, he said. He was being taught science! Probably has all the makings of an epidemiologist.

I am not sure what proportion of the population has ‘achieved’ this level of innumeracy.

About 149%. Or eleventy million in real terms.

Gosh, as bad as that.

Brilliant, best laugh all day

My daughter has a friend who is a primary school teacher. She’s probably quite a good teacher, BUT….. She needed a pass at GCSE maths in order to get into teacher training college. It took her 2 attempts to pass the exam, merely scraping the bottom grade the second time.
It’s people like that who are teaching maths to the very young. And you wonder why the nation is innumerate.

That doesn’t really make sense. The fact she struggled so hard to pass the exam might make her a better teacher who can understand how hard maths is for some learners.

Thats the optimistic view!

And then again it might make her bloody useless.

Numbers? I am numblexic so numbers are maths is something that is just a little broken with me. As a result I know I am really crap at maths and numbers.

So I don’t really get a sense of the values involved, the relationship between values is lost on me somehow, an abstract concept, not innate, not a natural feeling.. I need to really think about it. I have never really managed to pin down exactly what the problem is with me and maths.

I just had the idea that people who have a little ability in maths THINK they are much better at numbers than they really are. To a person who is really good at maths I would imagine its like being good at another language and its almost like philosophy.

Most people are just OK at “maths”, adding up n taking away and that..

So here we have the infallibility of numbers and maths for them. A rigid belief in statistics and maths and numbers.

They are SO GOOD at maths….That there can be no criticism or some numbers presented as credible from a source they see as really good with numbers and so, infallible.

Perhaps in this case a little knowledge and a little mathematical ability does more harm then good, a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

Hummm, This is a bit hard to convey. Its an interesting idea for me anyway and I need to have a think about it a bit more.

While still at junior school, my granddaughter was expected to do the sort of maths I did for o-level. So it was before her basic numeracy skills and grasp of arithmetic were firmly in place. I blame the national curriculum, which frequently puts the cart before the horse.

Some are indeed pretty innumerate and it’s just how it is. I’m one of them and, thankfully, I can work out figures enough to do basic arithmetic and keep on top of my finances. But gawdaloneknows how I got a good result in an official IQ test done on us all way back in my schooldays – as I try to remember just how much of that test must have been to test that aspect out. Yep – 130 IQ and I didn’t pass my maths O level LOL.

should of chalked up in darts more

It appears plainly obvious to me that the vaccine is having little-to-no impact on figures and may in fact be making things worse.

No better or worse, just a panacea for the collaborators.

Watch UK Column for Monday. Care home deaths appear to be correlated with vaccinations.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-8th-february-2021

The vaccines are having an effect, but regrettably it seems to be death.

that and improving the bottom line of Big Pharma.

Great post. Thanks.

Brilliant stuff! Thanks.

Very interesting.

There were many excess deaths in the US from dementia last year (tens of thousands I seem to recall reading), so your figure is presumably too high. As a starting point, however, it’s very enlightening.

Thanks.Great post again

“ the excess death count, the most objective of figures .”

Sorry – but it isn’t. ‘Excess deaths’ is a rubber ruler, stretched and distorted to suit.

In the present situation with the distortion of causes, the ‘most objective of figures’ is all-cause mortality placed in a meaningful context.

Yes, but many deaths are the direct result of lockdowns and refusal to treat.

It’s the great reset by the technocrats. Say goodbye to all freedom

Statistically literate people have been looking at the data and pointing things out from day 1. There was a time when Prof Spieglehalter would be giving his opinion to radio progs and things as often as sandwich board Ferguson. I have heard seminars and talks from real stats researchers that had more than a skeptic tone to them. But the fact is, only a small fraction of real researchers like the media attention, and many just prefer to toil away in private and only present findings to colleagues. Very few scientists are the absolute narcissists of the Ferguson type – so absolutely resolute in the importance of their own research that they indulge in the media circus as frequently as he does. I had an unpleasant experience of unwanted press for a paper I published about 5 years ago, and it is not something I would repeat in a hurry. It takes a lot of energy to continuously counter dodgy science pushed with the fervour that Ferguson does, and I would guess many statistical researchers just want to get on with their own work. Not an excuse as such, just reality. Everyone is trying to get through this in their own way.

Just scanned the headlines but must say I am very glad the zero-Covid nutters are firmly in the crosshairs. Even your average bedwetter is starting to turn against these clowns. This needs to be the thin end of our wedge that we ram home until they are chewing on the entire sceptic argument.

Also good to see SAGE minutes being scrutinised. Hopefully this site is finding its way again.

anybody that advocates the mass stripping of human rights should be declared a domestic terrorist. that includes the government, zero-covid and the majority of the public health weirdos

I genuinely think we can attain a very large foothold by very vocally and very visibly discrediting zero-Covid. It is (and always was) pie in the sky.

It’s a religion in NZ.

They are the global equivalent of ‘stay at home’ goons. Enjoying their imports and services that come from the toil of others whilst also lording it over the very same people that they judge so harshly. Horrible selfish country.

I know! VERY shocked when a formerly intelligent friend in NZ expressed joy at being “covid free”!

We don’t all follow it here – are you aware of covidplanb.co.nz?

Are you in NZ? We have to break this insane narrative. NZ is being used to “prove” you can achieve “zero covid”. Any country can achieve “zero covid” if they stop testing people!!

PS I just found this site. THANK YOU! It’s NZ’s version of HART. We need more international cooperation and coordination between these independent groups (PANDA is another one) to put pressure on governments. Anyone know any others in other countries?

PANDA is excellent. Richard Atlas on board.

They don’t all think it’s amazing, I know several Kiwis who think of life as now being in a permanent prison.

It is a one way street. Immunity comes through exposure to nasty things like germs and bugs and such. Over time, the will end up like the Martians in War of the Worlds when something nasty does break through their barriers.

100% agree. I caused some offence on Facebook the other day by stating that the country’s being run by ‘sociopathic academics on a power trip’. But it is.

If I was feeling optimistic, I would think they were offended by your use of ‘sociopathic’ rather than ‘psychopathic’.

According to YouGov polls the majority back quarantine etc. Over 70% back travel restrictions and over 83% think we should have to quarantine. I am amazed.

I wonder if more and more people are waking up to the fact that the government are taking the piss with their endless Teenage Mutant Ninja virus versions.

Is it news to them that viruses mutate? Who knew?

Time to exert more pressure on these clowns. The more they expose themselves the more the gullible will start to wake up and see how they’ve been played.

On yesterday’s ATL another quack was saying not to worry that the vaccine did not cover The SA mutation because your body could deal with the mutation. WHAT’S THIS? Our immune system can deal with the virus? How can this be? We need more jabs!! What’s that old joke more pricks than a porcupine!!

You obviously have no idea what is going on. Extreme positions are put forward, then false opposition or scepticism to them is the response and then later on those extreme positions are accepted.

It is a form of conditioning wherby the subject is more likely to accept something he is familiar with beforehand.

Yes. Psy-op!

You do not ‘write to your MP’ or ‘vote’ your way out of a dictatorship, but it’s going to take at least another 12 months for people to realise this.

The world as you know it has gone.

“What luck, for governments, that the people are stupid!” – Adolf Hitler

You do not ‘write to your MP’ or ‘vote’ your way out of a dictatorship…. The world as you know it has gone.

utterly gone. Only way out will be very violent….and may be in generations, not 12 months or so. So depressing. Any other conclusion, for me, is a denial i can’t keep up any more.

Very well said

I feel that too

There’s really only 2 ways out of this thoroughly corrupt system of (western) governance.

1. Civil war in the west, an ideological war which in all practical terms has already started. (the other side is winning).
2. A natural disaster that dwarfs the covid narrative.

I’ve felt for a long time now that there’s no political solution to the way civilisation is evolving. The system now exists to serve itself, people are just the cogs that maintain it. The western system of governance has become to powerful to be overthrown by civil unrest. With every technological advance we impose greater slavery upon ourselves to the system.

I think the only way to save our humanity is if nature in some way intervenes & we are humbled by a major natural event! I know that sounds exceptionally pessimistic & of course I don’t want people to suffer but I think that’s what it will take to save our species. Otherwise we are just becoming more & more like drones in an ant colony.

Either way the future is bleak, nothing stays the same forever, forget the old normal its history its never going to be that way again regardless of how you feel about it. Hard times are coming, reliance on the state will only make your personal experience harsher.

Or

3. China over reach and start a kinetic war against Taiwan or maybe even Australia….

True I did not notice I was not living in a democracy until I needed a democratic answer to a problem. There have been too many “face saving” opportunities missed by this government. In the summer deaths were miniscule. They could have busted out the flags and boasted that they had it beat. Instead they ramped up testing to massive amounts and then mandated masks??

Now we reach another victory chance, hospital admissions down, deaths down, infections down. Do it now. We have it beaten, vaccines a success we did it. Thow away your mask, all praise the fat pig dictator. BUT! Still they dither, why? You can say your lockdowns worked, shut all us sceptics up and be carried off on shoulders. This just highlights to me they don’t have a dinky doo! They are just blustering along cherry picking other countries ideas. You have noticed NZ is the other side of the world. Did you notice the vast majority of the countries on that side of the world all had the same virus conditions and results? Italy are moving away from lockdown, France is teetering and you just totally ignore Sweden. I cannot wait to read handjob and the fat pig dictator covid diaries, how it was all the chuckle brothers fault.

Moolah and vaccine ensure they don’t waver.

It is very indicative that many mythic and cosmic cycles ,such as the Kali Yuga, point to 2025 – 30 as significant. The Hopi term Koyaanisquatsi, meaning life out of balance is just about where we are now. The film from 1982 by Godfrey Reggio, scored by Phillip Glass shows this well.

Yes its time those like Peter Hitchens realised that too. I have great respect for him but think his strategy for getting out of this is a pathetic joke.

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-124394/v2

Tales from the exotic East.

I’m walking back from the market, and beside a votive garland stall is slumped a homeless man. A blue face mask escapes his grasp. It flies a short distance into a puddle, after an unseasonable dry-season rain shower in the night. Undeterred, he crawls across the pavement to fetch it, and dutifully hooks the muddied thing over his face.

This is a man who literally lives in the gutters of Bangkok, his body playing host to God knows what contagions, and doubtless immune to all of them by now. Pity the virus that penetrates his mask of virtue and filth.

The New Abnormal.

This is one major issue I have with the mandatory masking. Not only is it a health and environmental hazard but its also anti-poor. The poor who are already struggling to survive find that they’re being punished further for existing and worse are brainwashed like the others.

Hancock is done for now!
Hysterics in the extreme.
Hope this now gets used to bring perspective

He’s been unhinged for some time. I’m surprised our security services aren’t more concerned.

Could well be a cry for help. “What the fuck do I have to say before they cart me out and lock me up a nice, safe hospital?” I used to think trump was doing that, too, when he made his insane remarks on Twitter.

Every word he utters and decision he enacts is fully approved over his head. A minister is only a messenger for the PM.

I love the lockdown. Another lie to add to my charge sheet.

Hannah Arendt, contemplating Eichmann, noted that he could jettison one set of rules and moral concepts and espouse another, however evil, without difficulty and without being aware of any contradiction. This made notions of guilt, remorse, and moral responsibility irrelevant to him.
Wankok to the life. Could they be related?

Approx 2% of men can apparently kill without remorse.
It doesn’t mean that they do but maybe some just seek to use power and do it wholesale.
Have a nice day,everyone.

His non-verbal language gives him away – those facial expressions. So it’s not a case with him of “Father forgive them for they know not what they do”. He knows very well what he’s doing – but does it anyway.

He’s full-blown NPD. Zero empathy, narcopath.

Both sociopaths.

Good morning.
Not sure if it;s been posted but Oxford Uni to look at ivermectin about which msm seems to have gone quiet.
If Third World countries seem to be using it effectively then you would like to think even the fools and duplicitous so and sos in the msm here might push it more? God knows they push all the other, negative news.
Link here: https://trialsitenews.com/oxfords-principle-trial-bringing-ivermectin-directly-into-the-developed-world-in-the-battle-against-covid-19/
If I’ve learned anything from this epidemic it will be never to buy a newspaper again, nor to subscribe to them online and probably ( but only when SWMBO goes) junk the TV set.

It seems to me that if a quarter of the effort and money that has been ploughed into vaccines had been directed at treatments for serious covid we would be now have treatments in place that would have relegated this disease to an irksome nuisance rather than a cause for mass hysteria.

if we’d spent the money we spent on tackling this ‘pandemic’ elsewhere, we could have cured cancer and had a Mars base

As I don’t have a tv what is SWMBO?

She Who Must Be Obeyed.

I’ve got one of those too.

Yes got two. Wife and 21 yo daughter!

The Light Paper is your friend

“Already pressure is mounting from backbench MPs”

I read this phrase a lot and all it ever amounts to is the “pressure” of a wet fart in the wind.

Absolutely. Always the definition of controlled opposition

Do we think a subversive campaign to get Covid-nutters to ink themselves would work? Something that shows them up for the complete sausages they are. Like the Manchester bee one (which I don’t have a problem with btw).

Getting them to wear two masks at once is good enough for me.

I was thinking something more permanent. Something regrettable and that requires remedial action.

HE HE

Are we saying ‘red list countries ‘ because to say ‘bla*k list countries’ is racist?

Gross insult to ‘native Americans’.
But of course, you’re right. Woke Fascism.

Yes most of Africa is is on the red list

The 10 years/quarantine/hard borders is straight from the zero-covid lot. Devi Sridhar has been banging the drum for effectively permanently closed border for ages.

It seems the zero-covid fanatics are now running the show. So expect lockdown to move into regional tiers with travel restricted between them

I remember hearing someone say that whilst a successful company needs a good accountant it is important that the Chief Executive makes sure that the accountant never runs the company, they will run it into the ground with caution. It seems to me that Hancock and all the health tyrants are very much in the accountant category and with no effective Chief executive to take a dynamic pro-active approach they are like a bunch of accountants running the country into the ground with caution.
The fault lies with Johnson, a vacuous, lazy, spineless jelly-bag who is completely out of his depth. It should be him who is standing up and shaping the overall direction of our Public Health Policy and defining what it is for and what it can and cannot do.
As it is he is letting the accountants run the company into the ground.

good analogy. yes. if you let any special interest group run the country it would be a fuck up.

the zero carbon lot or the road traffic accident campaigners or anti-meat etc

any group would ban the thing they don’t like. The politicians should balance freedom with harm – always erring towards freedom

The current group running the country are trying to ‘ban’ covid and by the time they realise its a fool’s errand there won’t be anything left

I agree about Johnson. His initial ‘take it on the chin’ approach was correct. But he couldn’t stand up to the health fascists. It would have been easy to do – ‘show me the cost benefit analysis’, ‘we are sticking with the pandemic plan until you give me a good reason not to’, ‘anybody who advocates wide-scale human rights removal will be put in prison’ etc

Indeed. He had a chance to show real courage, but he blew it.

and there’s no way back for him. he deferred to the public health oddballs – to overrule them now would be to admit the entire strategy was wrong

he needs removing

He does, and fast.

He was hit by covid (allegedly) at just the right time. Back in 2001, some US politicians opposed the introduction of the pre-written US PATRIOT Act as a response to the 11 September incident. They, and some like minded media people, just happened to receive letters containing military-grade anthrax. Unsurprisingly, they changed their minds.

Sweden coming to the end of their second season

A free liberal democracy with less ‘deaths’ than most of fascist Europe

Hi everyone.

HUGE NEW PODCAST TODAY!

https://therealnormalpodcast.buzzsprout.com/1268768/7768657-ep-19-the-only-thing-to-fear-is-fear-itself-dr-nicola-ridgeway-interview

This week we have our first guest – Dr Nicola Ridgeway a Clinical Psychologist who wants to talk to us about the current covid mental health crisis.
We talk about how mental health is being affected by the lockdown. How the government has deliberately frightened a nation. We talk about fear, comfort behaviors like wearing a mask, life and much more.

I’m really proud of this episode. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did making it.

Lord R.

Very good edition which explores our thinking etc – some nuggets for everyone here!

Looking forward to listening to this later.

Brilliant episode. She gave very good advice. Open your business, don’t wear a mask, live your life normally. Very positive attitude, also optimistic. I can’t remember when I last heard anyone that optimistic about the long term.

So this is our hellscape of a world now. Those who exercise their right to freedom of movement get 10 years in prison, but the inhuman bastards who have deprived us of human contact and any sort of agency, forced people to lose their livelihoods, denied children an education and coerced vulnerable people into taking an experimental medical treatment are still allowed to walk freely among us.

They will pay. Stay strong, stay angry, resist.

Of course. ‘Twas ever thus. And on full pay, plus expenses.

Ah you see Poppy when they say we, they don’t mean them, they mean you. You stay at home, you lose your job, you wear a mask, you and your kids schools are closed, you can’t have holidays and you can’t see your friends. We however can do what we fucking like as this does not impact them.

Poppy,

I suggest we start a campaign to get you elected as PM with new party to back you.

Nuremberg trials #2 for those people

California lawyer, Jan 6, 2021

https://youtu.be/mllca8PkX-s

English at 4 minute mark

More madness:

(Though one of our LS number has just posted a video of him doing a dance routine in a snow-covered field dancing to Boogie Wonderland . Mercifully, he was not spotted by the rozzers)

Children are being abused by the state – school closures, denying the right to play and relax, denying the right to socialise with friends.

Lots of children becoming more and more anxious and mentally fragile as these draconian lockdowns continue.

Even the 8 year old now despairing that this will never end – never thought I would see such a young child in so much pain

In our town, and I suspect many others, play areas are ‘Closed’, due to Covid. I have torn the notices down and recommend that we should all do that.
Children need to play.

I’m happy to report that there were about 5 kids (probably about 6 years old) having a great time playing in our snow-covered park yesterday. Thankfully, the stasi were nowhere to be seen.

But, yes, the damage being done to children will be incalculable. How those responsible can sleep at night, I do not know.

Jesus wept. Thankfully during my walks saw loads of kids having fun and no Gestapo to be seen.

They should be ashamed of themselves. Kids look up to them and now they’re seeing that they’re nothing but wolves in sheep’s clothing.

So the CDC (and the UK by extension) invent new reporting rules for a respiratory disease and possibly violate state and federal laws.

Oh the sauce.

https://jdfor2020.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/adf864_165a103206974fdbb14ada6bf8af1541.pdf

It would be nice if they had a follow-up with an update for whole year mortality and comparison of reporting standards….

UK will be similar – March 2020 changes to MCCD. Maybe not 16 x less, but at least half the dead count would not be CV related. This would put 2020 in the zone as a bad flu year for the elderly. There is no pandemic. Death rates are within the historical average (1 per 000).

This is a very interesting read:

https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/01/bystander-at-switch-moral-case-against.html

I almost shared it on pointy-finger-rant-book but then realised I’d probably just get shouted down by people who only want to hear what they want to hear and can’t face admitting supporting lockdowns is supporting the deaths of millions of vulnerable people.

“ The head of the World Food Program WFP has warned that the “equivalent of 400 million full-time jobs have been destroyed” by government mandated COVID lockdowns and that there are now “270 million people marching towards the brink of starvation” (full article here ). “

Already pressure is mounting from backbench MPs to announce when these restrictions will be eased.

Already ? Is this a joke, ffs? MPs of all stripes have been propping up the New Corona Kingdom since last March, encouraged by 10K spending money for fake Zoom expenses and an above inflation pay rise. I probably wouldn’t mind so much if they didn’t whore themselves out so cheaply; if politicians are going to predictably corrupt, they surely owe it to us plebs to be really corrupt so we can string ’em up joyfully.
PS: A replacement flag and Thursday night sing-&-clap-along anthem is urgently needed for the N.C.K, so probably time for Boris to call in more Tory cronies.

Somehow we have to make people realise that the country is now intent on a policy advocated by Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott.

Somehow we have to make people realise that the country…

…is being run by a bunch of incompetent, corrupt, ex-public school cretins intent on re-establishing feudal governance, demolishing hard won civil liberties, ignoring basic human rights, corporatising all economic transactions and re-allocating previously distributed wealth back up the food chain. Corbyn & Abbott were not in power when I last checked…

Spot on. DePiffle et al are far worse than c&a; same policies but with brazen betrayal and industrial lying/MIS-selling.

I think you misunderstand my point. Corbyn and Abbott are toxic, politically. If the narrative that they are behind the push for zero covid can gain traction there is a chance people will start to realise what this corrupt, spineless government are intent on doing. I am not absolving Johnson, Wancock and the corrupt advisors, I am saying we need to approach the argument from a different angle to try and shake people to their senses. Make them realise that the policy of zero covid is the policy of the hard left and the useless government are too stupid to realise the hard left are leading the country to ruinous collapse.

The myth of there being a ‘hard left’ of any credible sort has blighted British political commentary & decision making for far too long, and protected successive inept governments. Since the 90s we have been governed via convenient neo-liberal centrist administrations. Whether Blair-Brown-Clegg/Cam-Cam-May-Johnson (or should that be Starmer/Johnson?), there is not a Rizla paper width between them.
The increasing narrowness of centrist parties and MSM supporters has forced it to invent a hard left and a hard right narrative, and populate it with straw panto villains like ‘Commie Corbyn’. Meanwhile it is this centrist hegemony that is destroying the UK in a way hitherto undreamed of, but the fact it isn’t a neo-Stalinist or neo-Francoist junta in power has led the populace to be convinced it can’t really be happening.
After all we have a moderate TORY government; so NI hasn’t really been annexed by the EU, we are all free to move and socialise as we please, cultural events have not been forbidden, freedom of assembly and other inalienable human rights are still intact, our economy isn’t being deliberately decimated, education is sacrosanct, fines aren’t being handed out by a radicalised police force etc…
But let’s watch out for the hard left , they want to take over!!! Take over what?

I couldn’t give a flying fuck about any of that, I just want lockdown lifted and I certainly don’t want the country to go down the ruinous road of zero covid. If that means we have to scapegoat Corbyn and Abbott, because they are politically toxic and regarded as hard left, to try and shake some sense into people, then so be it. When lockdown is lifted you can get back to your Socialist Worker party meetings and sing your Jeremy Corbyn songs.

When lockdown is lifted..

Your response illustrates precisely why this duplicitous Tory/Lab coalition government are getting away (literally) with murder. You don’t need Zero Covid hysterics to oppress a nation; just lies, incompetence and agenda driven advisors. Oh, and credulous sceptics…

I haven’t seen you posting here before and suspect you are here as a government plant to attempt to spread division.

I haven’t seen you posting here before

Not my problem. LS should make previous comments easily accessible.

….suspect you are here as a government plant….

Are you serious? Didn’t you accuse me of being a SWP member in a previous reply? What would any ‘government plant ‘ be doing here wasting their time when there are so many credulous self-proclaimed sceptics prepared to buy so easily into the government ( Tory btw ) lockdown narrative?

Maybe you could highlight left wing politicians who are opposed to lockdown.

That would be difficult as there aren’t any left wing MPs, and there aren’t any right wing MPs. As previous stated they are all carefully selected government compliant centrists, despite what you might choose to think.

Both sides are financed (at top level) by billionaires. They do what their paymasters expect them to do. The Left/Right thing is there to give an appearance of democracy and the possibility of voting for change.

Did Poodle Parliament get to vote on Wankok’s latest brutal Fascist diktat? Do juries get to consider their verdicts? Remember that before Peel’s sweeping reforms, when you could be hanged for stealing a sheep, juries made the system unworkable by refusing to convict even on the most blatant evidence.

However, a jury of zombies would probably clamour for a death sentence for visiting Brighton.

Parliament? voting? democracy? juries? justice? what quaint antiquated ideas! We are taken aback when the military take over in Myanmar and yet the ruling junta in the UK have been running on a martial law system for some while. And it is addictive, now our ruling commissariat have tasted totalitarian authoritarianism they will not want to give it up.

The military took action to prevent a pro-US CIA-orchestrated regime change op from happening. The Kyii woman is a CIA asset.

Lucky Sweden followed the plan they had in place and advocated by the WHO

Number 19 in deaths per million in Europe

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The last free country in Europe

Lockdowns kill

“ Individuals and communities would be motivated to conform and support the plan as part of a social consensus – a collective objective for the regional populations. It would be assisted by local daily communication with the public. “

That’s all Chinese to me.

Pure CCP!

The Oxford vaccine is ineffective against the SA strain. Luckily the researchers reckon they can tweak the vaccine and have a new version ready ‘in a few months’. So only a few months more of lockdown and then we can vaccinate our way out of this!

Haven’t I heard this before?

We aren’t getting out of this

Until the Icelandic strain arrives. Just ahead of the Romanian strain which was straining to race ahead of the Mongolian variant…..etc

“It would be a poor solution to the coming employment crisis to prop up Test and Trace as a job creation scheme or quarantines as a subsidy to the hospitality industry. Let’s use those resources to create real jobs in a functioning economy.” (Source: https://threader.app/thread/1359153633594662919 )

It is great to see Joe Boot in the links. A pity he isn’t Archbishop of Canterbury. If only the secularists could understand that totalitarianism is the inevitable result of the rejection of God’s rule and law.

When you serve Mammon and the Great Satan one should not be surprised to be effaced by them…..oddly the ‘Enlightenment’ most of it propaganda, which promoted endless ‘rights’ has now led to this….the inevitable totalitarianism of the me-focused cult of endless individuality guarded by state power and statism (100 genders, anti-White racism, unfettered Muslim immigration, the 4th EU German Reich, eco-Fascism, Warmtards, the Bidentard unDemocratic party etc etc). Modern society is not scientific. It is ineffably insipid.

That about sums it up.

Perhaps LS can find some legal eagle to comment.

Laws? Interesting idea. Henry II parish courts perhaps? 1215 Great Charter? 1260 provisions of Oxford? International covenants incl Nuremberg, WHO…. Nah. Today there are lax laws for BAME and Muslims, and laws for the rest of us. CV 19 illegality is simply part of a general trend since 1990. Laws and reality are optional. We need ‘strong rule’ to ‘get us through this ‘war”……etc bleat the sheeple and Fake News.

Somebody will be making a nice earner from the jail fees if it goes ahead. First it was for travel out of country, then it was for travel out of region, then it was for travel out of county. @Niemoller2021

Not a legal eagle, but I have seen the question come up before. If I recall, the answer was that individuals cannot take legal action personally. Only a state can make formal complaint on behalf of its citizens. I suppose the real answer is that the WHO have no legal status and presumably cannot impose laws on an individual state.

We have seen all to many times already how their advice has been ignored by this country along with many others.

10 years for lying about your holiday destination. Why not 10 years for claiming to be mask exempt, or couples shopping together?

If you don’t show your CV religiosity piety, diapers, bulging eyes, shitting pants (soon to be mandatory), distancing, turning your back constantly (soon to be mandatory), you will simply be shot. Public health, in-it-together, protect the NHS etc. Your family will be charged the cost of the bullet and firing squad. They will hang a yellow star outside your door.

Don’t give them ideas!

https://youtu.be/S5_lFo83PGk

Lockdown sceptic commenter John Galt made the above video and posted it last night. It is wonderful and very powerful in it’s message. A good one to share with others who are yet to understand how truly wrong Lockingdown is.

5 minutes, worthwhile watching.

Brought tears to my eyes.

John Galt’s work give him a thanks next time you see him on.

Get sharing the video. Any comments that come back to you about how sad simply point out 99.997% survival rate.

Thanks Basics! I was overwhelmed by the response to the video yesterday, really pleased you all liked it.

I’ve also enabled comments on the video now. For some reason it had disabled comments previously.

Here’s a link to where the 99.997% figure came from:

https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1308824541104398337
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

I made another video, this time about police brutality. I’ll post it in a separate comment but thought I’d mention it here too, as it’s a highly upvoted comment. Good old Morrissey again:

https://youtu.be/s-NeQsfGXTw

One day, at any random point in the future, “Mengele” Hancock will meet a random man on the street or in a country pub who has either lost his business or a child due to non treatment at the hands of the “appalling” nhs, the nation would rejoice !

Whoever it is would probably get far less than ten years for it.

a medal hopefully

My hope is that every hospitality outlet in this country bars him and the rest of them for life. Let’s see how they like having services withheld from them.

should bar them all – every politician that voted for it, all the public health psychos, zero-covid, anyone that has advocated lockdown on social media

Hear hear

totally agree – owners have the right to prevent admission to their premises – bar all the MPs and put their picture at the entrance “not welcome”!

Agree. One way to pay for all the damage he has helped cause.

They don’t mix with the plebians if at all possible

Only for photoshoots!
And Mutt Hamitup isn’t likely to be barred from his local is he?

Has the actual legislation regarding the quarantining of travellers from the “red zones of death” actually been published yet?

I am interested to see what penalty the think they can impose if somebody who has been shut inside one of these hotels for tens days against their will, refuses to pay their bill at the end of their stay..

Will they hold a person until payment is made? Ransom.

I would be walking straight out at that point, and there would be fuck all the security guards could do without facing an assault charge.

This is why I want to see what the legislation says. Is the “payment” a matter of contract between the hotel and the “guest” or is it a government collected charge.

Attachment of earnings order. Whatever. They will have their way, because they can.

Good luck trying attachment of earnings to a foreign visitor or person earning benefits.

Indeed.

“Matty, we’ll need to charge the ordinary working bloke more to make up for them that won’t pay…”
“As usual, then Bozo?”

i think they have to book and pay in advance / before travelling into the uk – rather than after the imprisonment

According to the Daily Mail none of the hotels will be named for commercial reasons. Lol. As soon as they lock someone up, the name of the hotel/hotel group will be out there. People have mobile phones. Didn’t say anything about removing phones.

Gagging order to be signed for ever more even if tgey do seize communication relied upon for life and business.

Refuse to sign ANYTHING. No signature, no contract, no enforceability re payment.

Hmm I wonder what the plan is in the event of a fire alarm?

Simon Dolan tweeted about this:

Components of mRNA Technology “Could Lead to Significant Adverse Events in One or More of Our Clinical Trials,” says Moderna
Summary:

• mRNA vaccines undergoing Covid-19 clinical trials, including the Moderna vaccine, rely on a nanoparticle-based “carrier system” containing a synthetic chemical called polyethylene glycol (PEG).
• The use of PEG in drugs and vaccines is increasingly controversial due to the well-documented incidence of adverse PEG-related immune reactions, including life-threatening anaphylaxis.
• Roughly seven in ten Americans may already be sensitized to PEG, which may result in reduced efficacy of the vaccine and an increase in adverse side effects.
• If a PEG-containing mRNA vaccine for Covid-19 gains FDA approval, the uptick in exposure to PEG will be unprecedented—and potentially disastrous.
• Moderna documents and publications indicate that the company is well aware of safety risks associated with PEG and other aspects of its mRNA technology but is more concerned with its bottom line.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/components-of-mrna-technology-could-lead-to-significant-adverse-events-in-one-or-more-of-our-clinical-trials-says-moderna/

Too deadly in 2017 – but now inside the Covid-19 vaccine?

How Safe Are the Nanoparticles in Moderna’s Vaccine?

Moderna and Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccines use lipid nanoparticles that contain polyethylene glycol (PEG) to deliver mRNA to your cells

This experimental mRNA technology and its lipid nanoparticle-based delivery system have never been approved for use in a vaccine or drug

Significant concerns have been raised over the technology, including the lipid nanoparticles, and Moderna actually abandoned it in 2017 after studies revealed a high rate of adverse effects

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/02/10/nanoparticles-in-moderna-vaccine.aspx

Is synthetically modified mRNA now in our water cycle?

Question courtesy of Dr V Coleman Esq.

I’ve been having email correspondence with my CRG MP. His position is so wet. ‘Pushing for removal of most restrictions by May’, ‘if its safe to do so’. It will never be ‘safe’ depending on how you define it

I think the only way out is mass civil disobedience. The CRG are the only ‘opposition’ but it is thin gruel.

Maybe set a new date? March 23rd? That will be 1 year we have spent as slaves and 65 million QALYs lost

The talk of ‘zero covid’ has the ring of some academic ‘Glass Bead Game’ of no consequence to realistic public health that works to the overall benefit of society. With hospital ‘covid’ figures falling and deaths not all that alarming for a respiratory disease in the winter time this zero covid game seems to need test results to prop it up. I am hoping that as the weather turns to spring and respiratory diseases decline the public’s enthusiasm for testing will decline and we may see these miserable ‘pop-up’ testing centres close down.
Are they actually switching from PCR tests to Lateral Flow Tests?
Whatever; if the numbers being tested falls away it is going to be harder to maintain this nonsense.
I still have a naive optimistic hope that at some stage soon this virus will confound all the experts by disappearing, after all it would not be the first time a virus has done this…….we live in hope.

my hope is that they are becoming increasingly draconian so they can take the credit in spring. what I think is happening is that they are going zero-covid

That is exactly what is happening.

Lockdown is the thin edge of zero covid it only works if 100% of the population follow, no work,no shopping and no medical care. It’s a fantasy the only countries where it works are geographically remote,
closed borders early and imposed lockdown early. These countries will need to remain closed until the rest of the world eradicate covid which could take several years. The lockdown as clearly damaged society through the harms it as done to health and the economy so the people who advocate zero covid which would be far more devastating should be shown for what they are vandals.

OT
You have to laugh – i can see a “national scale” suicide by egg overdose rather than carry on with this sh**show !
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9241937/Eating-just-half-egg-day-increases-risk-DEATH-7.html

Jog on! I’ve eaten three eggs a day for years. If I suddlenly stop posting it probably won’t be because I’ve had a heart attack.

No indeed – it will immediately be found to be Covid!

To think they were promoting scotch eggs – true monsters!

Yes we all remember Edwina telling us we would all croak from eating eggs

I eat 5-7 eggs per day. Great natural source of vit d

DEATH! boom big letters for stupid people to quake at the foot of.

I see once again where looking at Chinese propaganda a nation of slaves and dictatorship. The whole problem with dictatorship is they based on lies and keeping the people ignorant. Our politicians are fools to follow them but it is we who suffer for believing they know what they doing. Last year we were told covid killed 3-4 out of every hundred people who caught it, in other words a killer disease. This was a mistake because it was only those who went into hospital, if you included everybody who caught covid you find it kills 2-3 out of every thousand. Still a high death rate but similar to a bad flu such as Hong Kong flu of 1968-69 when no lockdown occurred.
Next we were told a three week lockdown would defeat this terrible disease which would require all of us to stay at home. This is impossible because in the real world people go to work,shop and seek medical care. So from day one lockdown was flawed yet no politician objected when common sense was screaming to say it wouldn’t work. Then came face masks which few wore during the first lockdown yet magically rates of covid decreased without them. The reason the government gave for making them mandatory was to stop infected people unwittingly spreading their germs to others. This is nonsense because anyone with a vap can easily demonstrate that when you breathe through a face mask your germs spread to everyone around you.
Face masks only protects the user and explains why every study done on the effectiveness as shown such little effect. In other words the only chance of catching covid is in a confine space with an infected person. We are now told 1 in 3 people who has covid don’t know they’ve got it and spread their germs unwittingly to others. How the government know this is a mystery as the only studies showing this are Chinese who have a vested incentive to paralyze the Western democracies. Other studies show you may have no symptoms for the first few days after being infected before showing symptoms when you would be infectious. If you’ve been infected and recovered you may still have dead virus particles for weeks afterwards but you would not be infectious.
I will now mention the vaccine sold to us as the way out of lockdown but as anyone whose had a vaccine will tell you they never 100% effective or safe.
The whole idea behind a vaccine is to make you immune which assumes you don’t have any immunity which is nonsense otherwise every time you got a cold you would die. In some people the over 70s and people with impaired immunity this is quite possible but unlikely,but to be safe these people and only these would benefit from vaccination. The government wants us all to be vaccinated but just like lockdown which requires 100% compliance it is flawed because it isn’t 100% effective. In other words 100% of 50% is still 50% and in the long term the virus will mutate requiring another vaccine, or as we’ve discovered be useless very quickly. This may explain why the drug company Merck decided to abandon making a vaccine as it’s a false hope, like the aids vaccine and concentrate on drug therapies.
As millions of people have discovered covid isn’t the killer disease we once believed it to be and the present strategy isn’t working, it requires more and more laws to work so a new strategy needs to be found. Protect the vulnerable, quarantine/isolate only the infected, give people sound health advice and develop drugs.The present strategy isn’t working so a new strategy needs to be found now or this madness will just continue.

You said 2-3 out of 1,000 die from Covid but remember, not all people with the virus develop Covid so the number of those with the virus who die is more like Professor Bhakdi’s figure of 0.05%or 5 in 10,000.

More statistical nonsense.

Is the risk only inceased whenever I eat half an egg? What if I eat multiple eggs, is the 7% effect cumulative?

Is this 7% increase in death on any particular days or is it spread out over the course of a lifetime?

Can I offset the risk if I exercise or is this one of those “do nothing worst case scenarios”? Is it possible that I’ve already survived the 7% extra risk so there’s nothing more to worry about?

Are we talking quail eggs? Or ostrich eggs?

Grant Schapps saying his 89yo father has been in hospital for 2 months and has Covid. But that’s not what he went in for. How can he continue to delude himself and attempt to hoodwink all of us?

Is this supposed to make me feel sorry for him? I bet you are not stopped from visiting? Why not celebrate the fact that your dad made it to 89 and celebrate that he lived 8 years longer than average instead of trying to keep the poor old bugger alive?

I have made a regular practice of reporting NHS ads to the ASA. It only takes a couple of minutes to do. The ads are seriously misleading. Here is the latest I have reported.

The ASA have a dedicated page on their website for Covid ad complaints.

https://www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint/quick-report.html

“Our AK47s have been rigorously tested and found to be working correctly”.

I’ve registered on LS to say thank you for the link. It has prompted me to complain about the Saga Holidays ad – you have to have been “fully vaccinated”. Leaving aside what “fully vaccinated” means, it is discrimatory and illegal.

Given a substantial part of the population is explicitly excluded from vaccination under the accepted protocol, so they really want to go there? I guess it is just another manifestation of the magic power of the word ‘vaccine’ – apparently meaning some ‘thing undeniably good and risk free that no normal person could possibly object to’.

Just reported this one for good measure.

The other biggie – are the drugs being pimped by Big Pharma really vaccines? All vaccines are drugs, but not all drugs are vaccines. So what exactly distinguishes a vaccine drug from a non-vaccine drug? They provide long term (permanent?) immunity to a specific disease? ….

I posted a retweet from Jonathan Engler yesterday re the Sage minutes and the Ct cycles mentioned ATL today.

More importantly, Freecumbria responded with this:

”And in the latest ONS survey which has Ct values in the associated dataset, 75% of the positive tests in the England part of the survey have a Ct value of over 27.

If viable transmission is below a Ct value of 25 (as per the Sage minutes) this indicates about 3 out of the 4 supposed ‘infections’ in the survey are really people having one quarter of an amount or less of virus than would be needed for viable transmission.

So most are fabricated infections by deduction”

Politician introduces 10 year sentence for lying. That’s our problem sorted, then.

Yes, a VIP prison for all of them

hahaha good one!

Ten years for lying about what country you’ve travelled from and drakeford’s son only got seven years for violent rape.

He got off for noncing though so all good

Will Jones did an excellent write up today – think a lot of people on this site will be much happier with today’s version

Yes, but, in the spirit of doing what it says on the tin, I still feel that a change of name for the site is a priority. How about lockdownscepticish.org ?

Sorry,it looks like pro-vaccine rubbish to me.

What police and certain politicians were involved in regarding Lord Brittan shows how lacking in shame these people are. Tom Watson thought he might get a knighthood!! Its beyond most people to see how people like them think and the current fiasco is on the same track. No shame only self interest for all of them.

Frontline doctors on experimental “vaccine” &c

https://www.facebook.com/TeresaKae/videos/10218122250743379

Well it didn’t take FB long to take that one down – link has gone already!

It’sstill there but you have to acknowledge that it is fake news before you can watch it.

Statement from Ty and Charlene Bollinger: Rebuttal to Fake News CNN’s Hatchet Job

The recent baseless CNN attack on us is a fake news media hit job of epic proportions which lacks all journalistic ethics and impartiality. CNN’s attack demonstrates that it is not just questioning of the alleged safety of vaccines but “free speech itself.”

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CNN’s attempts to depict us as “profiteers” running an “empire” is yet another dishonest and deceitful attack. We are extraordinarily proud of the work we have done in our documentary films – The Truth About Cancer and The Truth About Vaccines . And while we have generated income from our documentary films, we find nothing wrong with making a living.

What CNN’s “hatchet job” failed to mention was the fact that over the past six years, we have donated over $250K to charities that help people with cancer and vaccine damage, and we also have personally funded events to bring awareness to health freedom and the legitimacy of questioning the safety of vaccines.

And while brazenly disparaging us for selling products, in true “fake news” form, the CNN report failed to mention the record profits made by the vaccine manufacturing pharmaceutical giants in 2020, with the top 10 companies accumulating profits in excess of $400 billion .

Not surprisingly, they also failed to mention that the four companies that make all 72 of our vaccines (Merck, Pfizer, Sanofi, and Glaxo) are four of the most corrupt companies in the world. They are serial felons, and have paid $35 billion the last 10 years for falsifying science, for defrauding regulators, for lying to doctors, and for selling drugs that they knew were poisonous and knew were going to kill people, but still acquired FDA approval and took to market.

Even the FDA admits, on its own website, that over 106K Americans die each year from “ adverse drug reactions ” to pharmaceuticals which are “FDA approved” and properly prescribed and used.

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That CNN’s attack on us was a “hatchet job” is demonstrated by the fact that CNN never contacted us directly before their vicious and malicious “hit piece” was scheduled to be aired.

Instead, they sent an email to our customer service department a mere 24 hours before the piece went live, yet they had our mailing address the entire time. They even sent us a physical letter (image below) asking for comment, but we didn’t receive it until 2 days after the report had aired. Obviously, CNN had no real desire to give us a “fair shake,” they just wanted to be able to conclude their ludicrous report and state “Despite multiple attempts, the Bollingers refused comment.”

Lastly, the coup de grâce! If there were still any doubt that CNN lacks all ethics and common courtesy, CNN’s so-called “reporter” Drew Griffin had the unbelievable audacity to pull up Google maps and show actual photos of our personal residence, while he shared details about our home and where we live. Clearly, Drew is not a “journalist” and has less regard for the truth than a pathological liar.

https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/statement-ty-charlene-bollinger/

I see Princess Eugenie has given birth to a new royal variant..( just sayin’)

Does Handjobs policy apply to the following people:
1) The 30,000 lorry drivers coming to the UK each week.
2) Crews of aircraft landing in UK.
3) Passengers & Crew of ferries and ships arriving in UK.
4) People crossing over border in Norn Irn.
5) Business / mega rich on private jets.

Exactly but I think all passengers on ferries are included in the isolation requirements. But the others just flowing in. Does anyone think we know of any sequencing of virus in trucker countries like Romania, Bulgaria etc? Of course not. Any country with a half brain would conclude that virus sequencing will not earn you any Brownie points in this world. And are all Portuguese truck drivers excluded? UK can never have true zero Covid policy. The whole thing is insanity.
The only countries in the world isolated and large enough can strive for temporary zero covid are NZ and Australia. When they have carefully choosen the best vaccine, they will vaccinate and then open up. Even they cannot afford zero covid more than 2 years and they are not even out of the woods with their coming winter.

Australia is commencing vaccination next week. There was no “careful choosing”: the same vaccines that have been approved elsewhere are being selected here, beginning with Pfizer. I had hoped that they would wait longer to evaluate data as it accrues but they are gung-ho about vaccines and Australia tends to follow foreign regulatory approvals.

The criteria applied in NZ for a case if applied here, would mean no panicdemic.
Before a case is declared in NZ.
1) A 2nd positive PCR test must be obtained as confirmation.
2) PCR test Ct cycles are capped at 23x.

And as if by magic NZ is plague free.

Also, why are they charging £175.00 a night?! I had to check hotels in Central London this week, for something work related. A lot of very nice places available from £30.00 a night!!

Great question – must be the costs for a guard standing outside your door

And the backhander to HMG. Someone posted about this last night.

I wondered that too. Before I went contracting it was exceptional that any of the companies that I worked for would have accepted that as an expenses claim for a night in an hotel even for London. Even a night in an hotel plus three meals wouldn’t come to that much.

Enter the following co-ordinates in Googlemaps: 54.1470687,-7.3191887

Zoom out to see the border and explain how a person living there can travel to the rest of the Republic of Ireland without entering the UK.

knew it was a complex boundary (hence the smuggling has been so easy) but i have never seen that anomaly before. It is possible on foot or by horse assuming there are gaps in the hedges and you have a coracle to cross the river.!

51°30’16.29″N  4°46’43.73″E

Not the UK but an ideal site for a Zero-Covid prison/pub

I see they are now saying in DT no travel restrictions lifted till everyone is vaccinated!!!

Is that with the vaccine that doesn’t work?

Or the one that gives you side effects?

So, not only will I be guilty of ‘killing granny’, I will be guilty of depriving people of their holidays. My charge card is filling up.

Is that the vaccine that is not mandatory?

Don’t really give a toss about people whinging that the exercise of my bodily autonomy deprived them of a holiday in the Med when they don’t care about being complicit in denying me my fundamental freedoms for almost a year.

Zero Covid = Zero holidays
same rules apply collaborators
Going to be fun to deprive you of all your jollies

Today’s board:

So, in Britain 2021:

You can be jailed for 10 years for lying.

You get less for:

Carrying a loaded gun;
Drugs offences;
Knife crime.

Still want the ‘new normal’?

Fantastic!!

Clear, factual, incontrovertible. Customer comment along the lines of “You shouldn’t say that” incoming in 3…2…1…

Oh yes, or my favourite: “I was going to come in, but I didn’t like what your board said, so I won’t”

Just come in via dinghy and brownface

,, and Perjury (also lying)

Great stuff and so true!!!!

Why are businesses allowing themselves to be taken down when Johnson & Hancock will be off to richer pickings before long, why aren’t they putting up more of a battle, many of them spent a fortune on making their business ‘safe’.

Some of us are trying, believe me. But it’s bloody difficult when you are operating in a town that is virtually 100% compliant (businesses and customers). Safety comes with numbers which we don’t have right now. We are also aware that we are being spied on and I have received various telephone calls that, ostensibly, appear innocuous but when the searching questioning begins, I am wary of.

I know, you are doing great things, hope you get to continue. I’m really thinking about the big business, like breweries etc which are massive with big money behind them, its amazing that they are caving in the way they are.

Perhaps it’s because those heading up big businesses will have insulated themselves from this. Makes me wonder, re. the lack of any real kick-back whether they were given the heads-up.

“ Johnson & Hancock”

Sounds like a firm of shonky accountants. Oh wait………….

I’ve been asking that question from Day One? It’s not just businesses but also other sectors such as culture, arts, entertainment, hospitality, museums & heritage.

I won’t be surprised when this is all over when I get begging letters from orchestras and museums that I support. I’ll tell them to get lost and call them out for their cowardice.

COVID-19 Vaccine Maker Pfizer Paid $2.3 Billion In Largest Healthcare Fraud Settlement in History
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.. a senior managerial executive whistleblower of the pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca has revealed in shocking details that the AstraZeneca could not be held responsible for any side-effects from its COVID-19 vaccine . The company has agreements with governments as per which AstraZeneca cannot be held responsible and those affected will have no legal recourse.

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https://greatgameindia.com/pfizer-fraud-settlement/

The only comment that I would make on that is that AZ (et al) are EXTREMELY foolish to trust government words. Should it prove expedient for the UK (and other) government to change its mind and feels the need to find a scape-goat to protect itself from blame over massive ‘vaccine’ related disaster, AZ (et al) will be thrown over-board very rapidly!

yes, the indemnity agreement isn’t worth the paper

lawyers will make a few quid though

Big pharma has dirt on all politicians
they have all been napping under the yew tree

Wasnt the non liability clause common knowledge?

If there was any evidence of criminal wrongdoing, all contracts are null and void.

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Great poster.

However many people find it impossible to read lengthy text that is all in capital letters

I know, I’m just reposting from elsewhere.

We also need to get the news out that AFAIK- it is isolation or lockdown that mitigates against viruses mutating into more benign versions.
Could do with a snappy poster by a wordsmith of “Look them in the eyes and tell them that Lockdown caused the malignant variant to survive and infect them”

Great poster.

However many people find it impossible to read lengthy text because they are too stupid.

Ys. ths!

Lol!

I like that.

It’s a pity it couldn’t also be run as a radio ad to counter the “real” ones we are tortured with daily!

Essential viewing this weekend, the mighty Richard D Hall and two hours of whats in store for us this year.

Here is a link to the latest Richplanet show,

https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=287&part=4&gen=99

Started watching this last night, good one. I think Richard is a bit peeved!

50,000 adverse events from mRNA vax in UK.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/958616/COVID-19_mRNA_Pfizer-_BioNTech_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf

So just up to late Jan. This needs open discussion.

Yes it does. It’s absolutely shocking

Rookie numbers
I’d wager quadruple that for those that do not want to cause a fuss

Report vaccine adverse effects via the yellow card scheme

Yellow Card Scheme – MHRA

“WOULD it surprise you to be told that the mortality from all causes in 2020 was lower than it ever had been before?
Actually, it’s cheating to say that. The mortality rate in August 2020 was 836, lower than it ever has been. For comparison, the August death rate in the exceptionally good year of 2019 was 867. Why on Earth was the death rate in August 2020, the year of Covid, so low?
Was there Covid in the country? Yes.
Were there compulsory masks? No!
Were there lockdowns? No!
Was there social distancing? No! “

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/coronavirus-is-controlled-by-the-calendar-not-by-the-government/

According to Worldometer, Gibraltar has gone to the top of the death league. When they started vaccinating on 9th January 12 people had died. The total as of yesterday was 83.

It’s a scooby doo mystery

Must be a new rock monkey strain

There doesn’t seem to have been the same spike in deaths after the second doses have started. They are down to only 3 cases in there old folks homes 99 active cases total and they have opened up on the 1st feb not completely but hairdressers etc are trading again.
they still have 20 people on hospital 10 of those in intensive care and over 20% have had their 2nd jab. They have stuck to the proper schedule for the vaccines.

There is enough info on LS this morning to convince anyone of previous sound mind that the whole world has actually been taken over by lunatics ! How can this carry on ? , as one article confirms that weekly UK death rates are pretty much average (1700ish) which to me is the only statistic that matters , surely in spring when winter respiratory stats drop off this Bullshit cannot continue . It’s so obvious that an actual WAR is taking place against us plebs , every day the level of Bollocks grows & we just soak it up , WTF are we waiting for ?? The vaccine rollout could be likened to the WW2 German railway wagons waiting to cart people off ! It’s all that mad & Bad

I hope I’m right. I’m probably not. I rarely am. But I feel like Hancock may have jumped the shark with the ten year imprisonments thing.

I’d like you to be right too… but for months now we’ve been saying “they’ve gone too far this time” and “the wheels about to fall off this thing.” And yet the juggernaut keeps going. I think it’s too abstract – people don’t care about some reckless covidiot getting a hefty punishment. As long as it’s not happening to them.

You’re probably right.

Mrs J had a conversation with a friend last night – let’s call her Janet – and they talked about covid, vaccines etc. I see Janet as an interesting barometer of public opinion. She is mid-40s, well-off, not particularly political (“small c” conservative instincts), mainly focussed on her own security/health/job/family/creature comforts rather than any ideological agenda. Works as a freelancer and not financially affected. Well-educated but not what us down here would consider well informed: all her information is from the BBC. Her attitude is:

– She can’t wait for the vaccine and will feel much safer once she’s had it.
– Not bothered about which vaccine she has; not particularly troubled by reports of South African mutant
– No concern about side effects of vaccine: it’s been tested and it is safe
– It would be great if we could get to zero covid, maybe by all just staying at home for three weeks with no rule breaking at all, but that’s probably not realistic.
– Primary school children should be back now.
– It’s all really hard on young people but that’s just the way it is.
– Other countries have handled this much better – they got rid of it in New Zealand, China
– Once everyone’s been vaccinated we will be all be back to normal in the summer; she will be able to have a big family party
– But she expects we’ll probably have to have a bit of a lockdown in the winter again, and maybe again in the years to come
– She definitely thinks we’re doing the right thing by shutting the borders. Should have done this earlier. It’s a bit of a nuisance not having a summer holiday but it’s only one year, there’s always 2022 to look forward to.
– So far, the government has done a reasonably good job of keeping her safe; the loss of liberty is a necessary evil and not something that really bothers her

I expect she reflects what a lot of people are thinking. My big question is: once all these good folk (and their parents) have been vaccinated, at what point do they start to get seriously disgruntled when normality does not return?

I think then they’ll be pointing the finger at “lockdown flouters” going to the shops twice in one day as the reason why summer holidays are banned and we have to eat so many scotch eggs. I don’t think anyone in authority will be questioned.

Sadly, that is the level of unassailably complacent and self-interested thinking that we’re dealing with.

We await the economic reckoning. In a society that was largely decayed to mere utility anyway, only the pocket hurts.

Great summary of why the country is in a shambolic mess and is allowing the politicians to turn this into a bio security state. She sounds an awful lot like most of my media colleagues. And at this point I really hope they all drop dead with ADE after their jab or at the very least get that cushy financial carpet ripped out from under their feet and commence a freefall. I feel nothing for these people but rage.

I naively thought that when back in the summer in announced with his telltale smirk that the NHS would not be resuming f2f consultations, and would “see” patients virtually using video and telephone calls.

Yet another example of negligence and institutional failure to protect the vulnerable

I really hope that you’re correct but we need to be aware of false dawns – we’ve had A LOT of them. I hoped that it would all start to collapse when Ferguson got caught with his pants down ….

“How many doctors are misattributing covid deaths?” – I would suggest a great deal. My brother-in-law was a case in point. We were categorically and repeatedly informed by the nursing staff that he did not have Covid whilst he was in hospital for other reasons yet Covid Pneumonia appeared on his death certificate. Neither my wife or her siblings felt inclined to contest this as they were too upset with their loss. The hospitals know this will happen and so yet another case is incorrectly added to the Covid stats of gloom. I also know of several similar circumstances where the same thing has happened and it’s happening in plain sight.

Last May, there was a young girl fell of her horse and sadly passed away due to head injury…..Covid was put on her death certificate.

Neither my wife or her siblings felt inclined to contest this as they were too upset with their loss.

And why should they. This is what the NHS rely on: that relatives are too distraught to question things. And this is the kind of thing that a truly free/investigative press should be all over right now.

This free/investigative press you speak of, has there ever been something like it or was it always a fantasy?

Yes, you’re probably right. Everything I have believed in prior to 2020 has been totally turned on its head.

ooh, I will create merry hell when it happens to me…as it will

I’m watching a lot of dystopian movies at the moment, cheering myself up with visions of society not quite as bad as our own. Anyone seen the 1975 movie Rollerball? The basic idea is that national governments are no more and the world is run by a global corporate technocracy. That could never happen, surely! Anyway, our hero is a sports hero who is part of the bread and circus spectacle that keeps the masses distracted and compliant. He is told the time has come to retire; he doesn’t want to. There’s a great quote where he is told:

“Corporate society takes care of everything. And all it asks of anyone, all its ever asked of anyone, ever, is not to interfere with management decisions.”

Do not intefere with management decisions… it’s easy. Why are we all being so difficult about this simple thing?

Saw that at The Gaumont Cinema in Birmingham 1975 , always stuck in my mind !

Happy memories of many visits to the Gaumont in central Manchester

Happy Days

A classic and it’s commentary on the direction pro sport was headed, was on the money.

Memorable especially for the use of Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D Minor. Love that organ piece.

How many around here see Scam-19 as a cover operation/distraction from real problems with no solutions?

it’s a cover operation for something. it certainly ain’t a pandemic, a virus, or a public health crisis, that much is bleeding obvious

The west has been going down at least since before the so called financial crisis of 2008, a public health system lacking resources may very well be a piece of the truth.

But why this ridiculous 10 year prison sentence threat?! Why is such a big deterrence not to lie necessary? Because they already know that it’s going to be SUPER EASY for people in these “red list” countries to do it.

Anyone in S America/Portugal just needs to get to Spain, anyone in sub Saharan Africa just drive further North then fly to anywhere in EU. Then book separate ticket to UK. Don’t carry anything on you or in your luggage that identifies where you were actually living. Choose travel routes/methods that avoid your passport being stamped – easy if you have an EU passport and arrive in EU as they’re not allowed to. If you have to fly rather than train/road/boat then choose airlines that are unlikely to willingly share passenger data ie not based in EU.

Border staff barely have the time to check actual passports/visas and now they have to check tests too, they defo won’t be checking that closely.

I predict that these prison hotels will be empty. Anyone who wanted to get back will have done it by now. The system will either fall apart v quickly or they’ll just extend it to the whole world when they realise their plan is useless.

Hardly anyone is going to use these hotels as you say there are many loopholes. Regardless, It’s £1750 and then the risk of a positive test resulting in another 10 days. You literally can’t budget for it. Hotels will pull the plug on this in no time.

And surely there is little point in doing the 2 and 8 day tests if you are stuck all by yourself in a prison cell. You are hardly going to infect yourself and if you are really ill you will be moved to a hospital. (what medical facilities are these state quarantine places going to have, never been mentioned).

if someone was in a ‘red’ country and then travelled to EU country – how long would they have to stay in EU country before the red country restriction expired? eg if come from brazil to france and stay for 2 weeks then travel to uk surely the ‘red’ rules would not apply.

Has anyone heard about the new NIwVD vaccine?

I’ve heard it’s really good against all mutations of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, in fact much better than any other covid vaccine, and it is expected to provide de facto immunity for at least 17 years. And the side affects are almost always completely trivial except in a few very very rare cases, and in some people whose immune system is very seriously dysfunctional or who are receiving end of life care.

I’ve asked a few immunologists, but they save they’ve never ever heard of it.

A mate, albeit one who doesn’t know much about how viruses spread, claims you can even get this vaccine down the pub. How convenient is that! What a shame that at the moment all the pubs around me seem to have closed, trust them to all be doing their refurbishments at the same time. But at least if any boosters are needed of the vaccine, the pub will be available for these.

The manufacturers claim they’ve tested their vaccine for hundreds of millions of years. Initially they did some animal studies on vertebrates which went quite well. I broke into my local library last night (strangely it hasn’t been open for months so I had no choice) to see if I could find any details on these initial animal studies or the first human studies. But sadly there don’t appear to be any good records of these studies. Although I did find some old books detailing the human studies over the past 10,000 years, although many of them relate to an earlier version of the NIwVD vaccine called the NI vaccine. The results from the trials done in humans do sound seriously impressive and the manufacturers seem to have honed the latest version of their vaccine through trial and error to near perfection, using some artificial intelligence like techniques.

I’m seriously concerned about the net harms of the Pfizer and Oxford vaccines compared with any possible small benefits. But, much as I don’t like these covid vaccines, I have to be honest, this NIwVD one does sound really good and is tempting me in. But at the same time, you know what they say, if it sound too good to be true…

Does anybody else know about this NIwVD vaccine? Should I go for it? Thanks in advance.

I’ve heard tales of this thing that can ward off viruses
I’m going to consult a frogs gizzards for guidance

That sounds a bit like those witches out of Macbeth, They tricked that Macbeth bloke all right didn’t they. Are you sure it’s reliable?

The frogs entrails have stated categorically that T-cells are fake news

And I only liked their early records. Like Breathe and Brain Damage!

I have been on it for 40+ years and I am still alive.
This year I got an enhanced batch. NIwVD2500 it is called. Doing OK so far and no side effects at all.

Apparently if you take the original NI version outdoors in the summer, it works even better than the NIwVD versions. Although the old version isn’t available outdoors here in Cumbria only in the sunny South. The NIwVD2500 version sounds good.

Hopefully VD stands for Vitamin D?

Ha ha. I genuinely hadn’t even thought of the alternative interpretation!

Natural Immunity with Vitamin D
Working for me…

We should take to social media and trend this!! I love it.

I don’t do social media. But you are welcome to improve on it and use it.

It did cross my mind that when I am offered the jab (I’m a bit of a way down the list) I might send the surgery a letter with the above and asking them if they can guarantee I get the NIwVD vaccine rather than tjhe Pfizer or Oxford ones. Not sure how that will go down.

For the first 59 years of my life I had the NI vaccine, latterly with the addition of VD. This seemed to very effective, but I received the upgraded AIwVD in December from my son.

Initially, I had some side effects similar to many other more recent vaccines on the market. Fortunately, the side effects only lasted for a few days. This new upgraded vaccine is fantastic and apparently gives me at least 17 years of immunity. I can recommend it to anyone under the age of 75.

Thanks for the recommendation.

My brother in law had what appeared to be covid back In March/April (fairly mild but typical symptoms for a week) but my nephew and sister who live in the same house and share a bathroom etc didn’t have any symptoms at all. My sister works in a school.

While it’s only anecdotal, it did seem plausible that someone like my sister is more likely to have some cross-immunity against SARS-C0V-2 from full exposure to previous coronaviruses for example in the school. I did see some associational stuff that hypothesised that possibility. It would be interesting to check blood samples from blood donors pre-pandemic who are teachers and see if there was more cross reactivity of T cells with SARS-C0V-2 than adults with less contact with children.

The narrative of children might get it and pass it on to their teachers who then die, seems nonsense, even if we ignore the significant psychological damage such a suggestion creates. I expect that overall children are helpful in terms of providing protection for teachers against viral infections. Not sure if it has been properly studied.

So getting the AIwVD vaccine from your son, or a parent or teacher getting it from their school age child is probably of net expected benefit to anyone with a good immune system, it all helps in the immune system learning process.

Simone Gold

https://www.facebook.com/TeresaKae/videos/10218122250743379

Do the ‘trusted celebs’ being used to promote the vaccines have protection from liability if any people who trust them suffer ill effects from covid vaccines.

No let up in sight?

Grant Shapps has urged people not to book summer holidays either in the UK or abroad, suggesting there is no certainty they won’t still be illegal later this year.
The Transport Secretary told Radio 4’s Today programme: “Please don’t go ahead and book holidays for something which at this stage is illegal to actually go and do, either here or abroad.”
He added that “we simply don’t know the answer as to where we will be this summer”, telling would-be holidaymakers to “wait until that is clear before booking anything”.
People should “do nothing at this stage,” Mr Shapps added.

Have you lost your fucking mind? The only way travel companies are surviving is with the future booking funds. Hundreds of thousands of people have listened to handjobs bullshit that the vaccine was our way out and booked a summer holiday to give them something to look forward to.
Unlike you and the government Mr crapps we have to make plans. We have to book time off work and kennels for our pets.

So what you are saying is your lockdown, mask wearing and vaccines are utter bollocks? If you had faith you could predict an outcome and say with confidence what the predicted outcomes would be. Instead, (even though you have data from last summer where the infection rates and deaths were minimal) you bluster along with not a fucking clue what you are doing and refusing to make hard decisions. Are you so dumb you think opening schools will have an impact on death and infections. Fuck me.

What can you say?
They have gone full Don Quijote.

For those in enforced hotel quarantine, courtesy of the BeeGees:
Here I lie
In a lost and lonely part of town
Held in time
In a world of tears I slowly drown
Goin’home
I just can’t make it all alone
I really should be holding you
Holding you
Loving you loving you

Tragedy
When the feeling’s gone and you can’t go on
It’s tragedy
When the morning cries and you don’t know why
It’s hard to bear
With no-one to love you you’re
Goin’ nowhere
Tragedy
When you lose control and you got no soul
It’s tragedy
When the morning cries and you don’t know why
It’s hard to bear
With no-one beside you you’re
Goin’ nowhere

Night and day
There’s a burning down inside of me
Burning love
With a yearning that won’t let me be
Down I go
And I just can’t take it all alone
I really should be holding you
Holding you
Loving you loving you

Don’t forget Jive Talking, you’re telling me lies!

“I started a Joke” Hancocks whole approach
“First of May ” – unless another variant comes a long in which case it will be “tomorrow tomorrow”
“staying alive” only just …….. but “spirits having flown” means people are suicidal
“night fever” a symptom of covid – get tested
“this is where i came in” happy anniversary covid

i could go on ……..

Wonder how Nut Nuts feels about Madcock’s 10 yr sentence for lying about what country you came in from, bearing in mind John Worboys only got a minimum sentence of 6 yrs?

I got a positive response from my MP this morning. After a to and from about mutant strains, human rights and lockdowns

This is all he sent

“ These restrictions must be lifted and must never be reinstated.”

which is moving in the right direction – just 10 months late

Steve this is good to hear.

I think he is decent. But I think he has been propagandised more than the rest of the population. He has the government, SAGE, the whips, the BBC. Most people have just the BBC. I have ‘primary data sources’ so am immune.

You do have to wonder how much of this is down to your social circle. If you’re an mp and the times, the bbc and sage are your data points. Your address is a house miles away from your town centre and all your buddies are fellow champagne socialist. How do you hear what “the people” are talking about?
The noise about loss of liberty these restrictions are causing should be deafening, but you sit in silence blissfully unaware.

I think you are right. I would say over 50% of my friends (WFH types mainly) believe in lockdown, but most of those are getting bored. Most of the people I randomly meet (probably a better cross-section) – mums at school, friends of friends etc think its a load of bollocks

It was a big shame to stop/ban the weekly London demos – it was a visible sign that you weren’t alone if you were at home wondering what its all about

Good. A member of the CRG? My MP belongs to it but is about as much use as a wet blanket. The Labour party has no MPs who seem to want to rock the boat.

Vaccine passports are on the way says R4 … Bastards, absolute bastards.

He is CRG but was panicked into voting for lockdown 3 because of mutants

Slow on the uptake but is getting their in the end.

Rejoice.

Would you ind telling us who your MP is? People are trying to get an urgent cross-party discussion going!

I just want to clarify: by ‘these restrictions’ does he mean all the restrictions imposed since 1 March 2020? Leaving nothing out? Masks, anti-social distancing, track ‘n trace? All of them?

his previous email said ‘most of the restrictions by May…if possible’ – I took him to task saying this basically meant never due to ‘the mutants’, talked about freedom, democracy etc

his last email has clarified his ‘supposed’ position

“Dominic Grieve told Radio 4’s it was “entirely disproportionate” suggesting the 10-year period “had been plucked out of the air.”
He added: “This is a regulatory offence, and no regulatory offence I can think of attracts a 10-year sentence. The reality is that nobody would get such a sentence anyway, the courts are simply not going to impose it.”
The former MP for Beaconsfield urged those in the Commons to “to pay attention to what the Government is doing on this”, saying: “The Government should not be abusing the powers it has taken through Parliament for this emergency to create offences which are subject to that kind of penalty.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/02/10/lockdown-news-schools-quarantine-hotels-boris-johnson-uk-latest/

It’s been a while since I agreed with Mr Grieve.

Well not my flavour, – but he was one of a small minority on the Tory front benches that did a job rather than polishing his bank balance and booking an ego trip.

we take our allies where we find them. the battle lines have been re-drawn.

“ The Government should not be abusing the powers it has taken through Parliament”

Should be:

“The Government should not be abusing the powers it has stolen from Parliament”

There FTFY

A nun who will be 117 tomorrow only realised that she had had Covid when she was tested.
WAKE UP SHEEP, COLLABORATORS AND COVIDISTERS AND SMELL THE COFFEE OR TEA IF YOU PREFER.

Yes, it’s clearly a VERY dangerous virus!

0.05% or 0.005% deadly?

Can I have this as my quarantine hotel? https://www.secretescapes.com/dunalastair-hotel-suites-pitlochry-scotland/sale-hotel?gce_pbf=1 I don’t mind paying a bit extra.

Great edition today. Truly sceptic, if not downright antagonistic to the insanity. How long before Hancock brings back the death penalty for Covid offences? Killing people to save people?

Always infinitely better when Will edits. Night and day. I think we call for Jonathan Barr to be replaced. He could get a job at the Guardian perhaps,

Or as a SPAD to Hancock.

I also feel encouraged that a number of articles quoted ATL are from The Telegraph. Hopefully the editors are favouring more sceptical pieces than in the past when they tended to hide them away in obscure locations.

Yes much better.

don’t worry, that’s on the way

Wrong, just full of pro vaccine nonsense

I’m not 100% up on how laws are derived under UK law, but can new laws and sentencing be made up on the spot without consultation with parliament (not that I’d trust the Westminster scumbags not to capitulate)?

that is exactly what is happening – parliament has been sidelined, and is now an irrelevance. attempts to bring these clear constitutional violations before the courts have been simply turned away. this is a totalitarian coup.

Well, they have been for nearly a year now…

How anyone, including the otherwise most eloquent and sensible Lord Sumption, can still subscribe to the ‘well meaning at heart’ tyrant story is now beyond me.
The most obvious proof of their conscious malintent and sadism is that they have still not done anything about standardizing the PCR tests down to a max ct number at which they stop being meaningful, especially before demanding 3 more of them to be done per trip.
This flaw is common knowledge since at least half a year now.
And it has been addressed and is being practiced lile this in all those places which have few/no cases, like NZ/OZ, NFL, PGA Tour etc..
(Erroneously anyway) Trying to achieve now what they have achieved without using the real major ‘weapon’ they used for that is, whilst possessing the full knowledge about that weapon and its necessity for victory in rhat regard, nothing but a deliberate mass suicide/genocide strategy and desire.
If they can’t be made to change this at least and immediately, only a major revolt can now stop them and
the destruction they crave.

How about a life sentence for any public official( in solitary confinement) for calling a PCR positive an infection.

WHY IS THIS BEING SOLD AS GOOD NEWS?? First dose Jabs are 64% effective – THIS VERY PAPER stated repeatedly AS FACT it was 89% (90%) effective. it’s BAD NEWS. The elderly were 220 times more likely to die from covid that a control group. Now only 80% more likely to die than a control group… WHAT A SUCCESS! Well, only 80% eh, its just as well you took their 2nd dose of vaccine off them, in peak weeks! This paper lied about the efficacy of one-done vaccine to suit a political agenda. Hid the 52% pfizer figure. But it’s closer to that than Tony Blair’s 90, is it not? All should be held to account! And now slipped in in the small print is that two doses is not 95% effective at all, but 79-84. I guarantee you that 79% is for the older age group who need most protection. So the elderly are now just 40-50% more at risk? But they were sold jabs, on the day, BY DOCTORS AS FACT as 90% effective. The 89/90% protection from one jab lied to ensure docility toward the one jab policy. Disgrace.
Credit to Mimi Two , daily mail comments.
The comments section is fabulously cynical!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9243101/Pfizer-Covid-jab-offers-two-thirds-protection-against-virus-one-dose-new-data-set-show.html

I sense the vaccine roll ojt has many many failing they cannot spin enough to control. More than they can chew?

Sooner or later, the masses will start questioning the ever-shifting narrative. Especially when the evidence of those suffering adverse effects becomes overwhelming.

Note that the key figure for any medical treatment : that of absolute risk reduction is rarely quoted.

Absolute fanatic.

Well that’s one word for him, probably not the one I would have chosen.

This is a farce Below.See side effect vaccines.Death 59 Fatal 53.Pfizer side effects 31st Jan UK

The other 6 were reborn as believers

The other 6 are running for parliament.

So death isn’t always fatal. Good to know.

But it can be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlFAbtU6Qwc

The total fatalities at the very bottom of the document came to 107.

Interesting. They used 107 deaths to justify masks in shops…

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/958616/COVID-19_mRNA_Pfizer-_BioNTech_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf

The original document

But how many were vaccinated? What’s the total sample size? Let’s not play the same stupid game government is playing, trying to scare us with out of context numbers. We know better.

This is Pfizer given one dose up till 27th Jan.Probably millions given Of course difficult to assess that there were 5 persons getting blind and 5 persons getting deaf and need to compare how many deaf/blind spontaneously 2-4 weeks past vaccine/not vaccine in so many millions.
There is 1 report of congenital disesase difficult to underatand(not to given to pregnant)

But intersting and more relevant 101 anaphylactic reactions nobody died due to treatment.
And 217 C-19 infections with 10 deaths.
This is the first Pfizer dose more effect likely after second dose.

In summary this is not like the influenza vaccine at least 10 times riskier so far

I predict another letter/visit coming our way. Head ‘Safety Ambassador’ has just done his usual thing of feigning interest in one of the park shrubs (he seriously seems to think that we don’t know what he is up to). Gave me a scowl as he walked past and then walked straight past one our customers who was consuming a takeaway on one of the park benches. It’s like being in a rather sinister episode of Tom & Jerry .

What are YOU – not your customers, who have free will and responsibility for themselves – doing that’s actually wrong, KH?

My real crime Sam is that I am not a ‘believer’. When we had the first visit, we were questioned very closely on our covid views (presumably because of the blackboard comments). For those, we are cleary being punished. I have been on the EHO radar for many years because I question their ridiculous diktats. All we are doing is what we are permitted to do – serve takeaways.

We had previously been kind to customers and provided a tray and proper crockery and, in some instances, taken the drinks/food to the customers outside. To my mind, the end result is the same so I don’t understand the justifation in going after us (other than it being personal). According to them, we are ‘encouraging’ people to gather, which is patent bollocks as there are only seven benches in the quite sizeable park. The only people gathering have been Max n Paddy and plod!

According to them, we are ‘encouraging’ people to gather…

By that logic, so are all the big supermarkets. Likewise, waiting at a bus stop in the morning to go to work means the bus companies are guilty, too.

Record if possible and put online after the nightmare is over. It’ll be funny then but of course it’s not at the time.

Sounds more like Itchy and Scratchy

Letter from a retired GP from Wales published in the BMJ on 4th Feb. As a retired GP from England, I couldn’t agree more!

Dear Editor
History is littered with examples of the atrocities which ensue when doctors abandon their traditional principles and judgement in favour of unquestioning subservience to government diktat – medical involvement in torture, human experimentation and psychiatric punishment of political dissidents being familiar examples.
Abbasi takes as axiomatic that there was no prior immunity in the population, that lockdowns are effective, that computer modelling is realistic, that statistics have been accurate and that WHO statements are reliable. All of these parameters have been widely challenged by knowledgeable and conscientious researchers whose findings were often disregarded, censored or vilified.
From a medical perspective, it was clear early on in the crisis that disregarding clinical acumen in favour of blind obedience to abnormal ventilation measures, reliance on an unsuitable laboratory test for diagnosis and management, and abandoning the duty of care to elderly hospitalised patients and those awaiting diagnosis and treatment of serious diseases, would create severe problems down the line.
Doctors who had empirically found effective pharmaceutical remedies and preventative treatments were ignored, or worse, denigrated or silenced. Information regarding helpful dietary supplements was suppressed.
This was further compounded by rule-changes to death certification, coroners’ instructions, autopsy guidelines, DNR notices and the cruel social isolation policy enforcement regarding family visits to the sick and dying.
When medical professionals allow themselves to be manipulated by corrupt politicians and influenced by media propaganda instead of being guided by their own ethical principles and common sense based on decades of clinical experience, the outlook becomes very bleak indeed.
Historically, public respect for and trust in doctors has exceeded that awarded to politicians. The unquestioning capitulation of medicine to an authoritarian executive and predatory corporate power may have undermined the doctor-patient relationship for a generation.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n314/rr-8

Powerful.

Thank you. Reposted!

yes my faith in ‘modern medicine’ has so far collapsed that I intend to remove myself altogether from the NHS register. I want nothing more to do with them, and would rather take my chances with nature

I’m considering the same, aged 67.
I learned about high-dose vitamin D at age 65.
I’d known about healthy diets for much longer but vitamin D seems to be even more crucial.

Thanks, as the daughter of a GP (who thankfully passed a few years ago) I couldn’t agree more.

The complicity of the majority of the medical profession and other HCPs is beyond comprehension

He should have sent that to the Telegraph; let more people read it.

Hear, hear!!! Should be circulated more widely.

And he’s right, trust in the medical profession will be badly damaged. I have not gotten around to registering with a GP and this shit show has ensured that I will not bother for the foreseeable future.

Bin the caps.

Reminder to all uppercasing Covid is part of their fear game – the word does not require uppercase.

SARS-CoV-2, Covid-19 or Covid84 is fine.

Why Covid? Why not covid? I don’t seem to remember seeing people say “The Flu”. Or “I have a bit of a Headache.” I’ve even seen “ebola” and “zika”, even though the former is the name of a river and the latter the name of a forest.

Why not cristi.neagu?

“covid” should always be in quotation marks. that indicates that it is not a specific thing but a word being used to cover various possible things ..

The Currant Bun article in todays links..

Dr Strain said “no evidence” did not mean it couldn’t be ruled out.

Apart from the obvious WTF comment, his name is Dr Strain!?? What’s his superpower, shitting out complete garbage at journalists?

I used to work on engine diagnostics for passenger cars. A lot of our diagnostics were of the “if this value goes above this threshold, there’s an issue” type. It is, basically, what PCR testing is. And we used to do a lot of testing, trying to understand what the system is doing normally, without faults, what are the worst case scenarios, all aimed at figuring out a threshold where we don’t catch any of the normal use cases (no false positives) and we can robustly detect an actual fault. And we were doing all that work so as not to upset a few customers with a trip to the service, and to limit our spend on services covered by the guarantee.

And here we have, the brightest minds in the medical field, on whose work depend not only every person in this country, but also the entire economy, and they never bothered trying to understand what that PCR test is doing and where the threshold is supposed to be. If i had set thresholds by ear, with no evidence, and then it turns out 2 in a thousand customers were having issues with it, i would have probably lost my job. These guys are hailed as heroes. I bet they didn’t even bother reading the initial paper about PCR tests. What an utter joke.

Last night, I copied and pasted a rather amateurish poster about a bid to create a maskless protest in supermarkets. However, it was turned into a trollfest and the point was eclipsed.

I’ve noticed over the last few nights that AidanR and Anti-socialist have created the sort of long, pointless trollspats normally associated with the 77ths BTL on Conservative Woman or the DT. When I called them out on it, Anti-Socialist claimed: I’m afraid I’m not batmans robin, in fact i don’t recall ever seeing his name before.

However, Basics too pointed out: Noticing there’s a little tag team of guys on the same shift. Go back over the days you’ll see they appear in tandem.

Just a headsup.

Meanwhile, here’s the offending poster again. Yes the graphics are poor but I took it straight from the Protest Everywhere group to get the info out. I was thinking of those people who are nervous to go out muzzle-free, they could maybe find some allies on Tuesday and Thursday evenings.
It might be one of a very few places to legitimately meet new like-minded people too…….

It still looks like it was make out of sticklebricks and alphabetti spaghetti.

Well do something constructive then instead of just sniping from sidelines.

Fuck off somewhere else 77

LOL…. “Everyone who says something I don’t like must be from some shadowy government psi-ops team.”

Obviously not. You could just be being a knobhead for the sake of it.

Aren’t you the guy who’s had a girly strop and stormed out, slamming the door behind him several times now?

Nah.

yes it does look a little like it it was done by a 6 year old in school (remember when that happened) but then again, this is aimed at the masked sheeple who have the attentions span of a goldfish and who are likely to notice something bright and simple and full of pictures, rather than us intelligent sophisticates

Aidan is no more “77th” for over-harshly responding to the poster than Basics is for implying that Aidan is an intentional disrupter. Aidan has been around for many months and has always been what he is – sharp as tack, venomously intolerant of nonsense, and absolutely committed to the anti-lockdown cause.

Was he right in his criticism of the poster itself? Was he wrong to make that criticism in such a vicious manner, that could easily be interpreted as personal criticism?

Those are the issues, though I’d suggest the best stance would be to recognise that such very different people as you and Aidan each contribute to the fight in different ways and are unlikely to get on personally.

Look on the bright side – at least with Aidan’s approach you aren’t going to get any over-polite false praise…..

Thanks Mark. You’re right of course. Plenty of room for all styles.

I was hoping to leave yesterday’s chapter as yesterday’s news. I had no wish to drag it into today.

But it has been brought into today, and I will not be driven away by dogpiling.

A truce is probably in order.

“ A truce is probably in order .”

That would seem the most constructive response, to me. But you are probably going to need to bite your figurative tongue a few times to let the heat go out ….

If people on this site object to that poster, then they they are likely paid trolls and should be called out as such. This is the prime sight for anti-lockdowners, so 77th Brigade and other government funded trolls are bound to be active here.

There are websites about sea snails that have more traffic than this one… The daily sum total of BTL contributors is probably 60 people.

Even if 77 were this big shadowy monster, do you really think they’d spend their precious resources here?

QED

‘Even if 77 were this big shadowy monster, do you really think they’d spend their precious resources here?’

*If* 77th has its instructions, and *if*, as Rowan says, this site is ‘the prime [site] for anti-lockdowners’, then, well, yes. Obviously.

“Perth in Australia, which recently went into a snap lockdown because of a single positive case, is an exemplar of the Zero Covid approach”

With a “test” that is known to have false positives (an not just a few), how is this possible without people screaming bullshit?! Have 99.? % of human brains stopped working?!

… and how on earth did they only detect *one* positive? Did they only perform *one* test?

Please speak to Keir Starmer and your party and begin a new movement to bring down this murderous government and turn this catastrophe around.

Hugo Stolkin is rather naive I think about the real nature of the party he has supported all his life. Lockdown is fundamentally a policy that fits perfectly with the basic principles of the Labour Party – state-centric, collectivist, employing top-down state coercion to force people to do what is supposedly for the greatest good of the greatest number, and openly justified by worship of the great shibboleth of the Labour left – the holy national health bureaucracy that is the NHS.

Stolkin, like me, clearly doubts the assumptions that ostensibly underpin lockdown – that without it there would be a “disaster”, that the “NHS would collapse”, that the costs of lockdown are less than the costs of not locking down and can supposedly be ameliorated anyway by more state action, to help those harmed by it, that infinite borrowing for socialist purposes is perfectly practicable and acceptable.

But doubts about those assumptions, however self-evident to us, clearly are not shared by the Labour hierarchy from Corbyn to Starmer

Has there been the slightest chink in the lockstep Labour hierarchy response to the coronapanic, of “faster, harder lockdown”, to justify any hope Stolkin feels of some kind of revolutionary change in that party’s utter political failure on lockdown?

I am of the opposite political persuasion to Stolkin, but I long since recognised that it was futile to expect real conservatism, traditionalism or patriotism from the kind of people at the top of the “Conservative” Party. Perhaps it’s time Stolkin likewise recognised that our problem is not any one party, but a wholly corrupted political class, including those among them who have been slightly better at pretending, from Corbyn on the left to the likes of Rees-Mogg or Gove (at times) on the supposed right. All of them revealed, when the coronapanic test came, as internally rotted timbers.

I have to turn to new parties like Reclaim and Heritage to look for politicians unsullied by lockdown support. Perhaps if enough people like him do the same there might be one – just one would be a start – party of the left that would openly and clearly stand against lockdown.

I have to turn to new parties like Reclaim and Heritage to look for politicians unsullied by lockdown support. Perhaps if enough people like him do the same there might be one – just one would be a start – party of the left that would openly and clearly stand against lockdown.

Indeed.

Your profile photo however is quite scary

LOL! Ok I’ll change it later on today.

I have to turn to new parties like Reclaim and Heritage to look for politicians unsullied by lockdown support. Perhaps if enough people like him do the same there might be one – just one would be a start – party of the left that would openly and clearly stand against lockdown.

Indeed.

Your profile photo however is quite scary

Yes I said this today. Pushing the Tories to set up the system that allows them to play out their agenda.

Why the masked picture? It’s not nice!

It was suggested that I put in a profile pic because there’s been a recurrence of posting comments under duplicate names and someone was commenting as “Mark” again. It was a good suggestion, so I jumped through the Gravatar hoops to do so and stuck in an old anti-mask image I had lying around. Didn’t occur to me that it’s too small here for the message to be easily read…..

Maybe I’ll see if I can dig up a different picture.

Rather use one of Bob’s cartoons

Phew, glad to see the reason behind your picture Mark, I was starting to worry!.

Is that a picture of you, Mark? Thank Christ for the mask…..

Far better looking than me, mate, even before the ravages of time and cancer… : -)

Tell me about both, kiddo.

I agree with this it seems to me that the entire political class and establishment is deeply corrupt and authoritarian in Britain. I really make no distinction between them from Corbyn to Steve Baker. They are all in it for their own careers and could not care less about the public. The Left/Right division has become meaningless, the only issue now is if you are pro or anti this tyrannical establishment. I am happy to join forces with anyone who opposes it and wants them overthrown and destroyed.

“ The Left/Right division has become meaningless “

Not meaningless, it is fundamental and will never be meaningless, but it is not the most urgent line of dispute in Britain today (that’s for or against coronapanic and lockdown) and nor is it the line between the political parties (all the current main political parties are of the left basically).

As you say, the urgent and important issue of the day is whether you resist the panic and the lockdown, not which side of the left/right divide you ordinarily fall on.

One of the saddest comments I’ve seen on this site is the one by the left-wing LS reader today who has written to Harriet Harman MP begging her to ask Keir Starmer to end this murderous lockdown. He gets it but he doesn’t get it at all. Starmer and the whole political class are trapped in lockdown fanaticism and many Labour people want even tougher lockdown, no matter what the destructive effect. As someone who has been a conservative all my life and a party member (not any more) I must say that it doesn’t matter if you are left-wing, right-wing, any-wing or no-wing, the political class are out of control and need to suffer a mass extinction event. If anyone thinks our govt. or its alternative has the ability to govern us in a calm, rational way or cares a fig for democratic values and accountability then they deserve everything they get. Our governing class are actually dangerous.

Great post!

If labour did their job that of being opposition we would never have been in this mess – destruction of economy, livelihoods, mental health, dreams etc

So it’s not really Boris Johnson and his government of loonies who are to blame?

exactly, they all need to go, and not just in the soft sense of ‘lose their jobs’ but be held to account before a human rights tribunal and face the severest of penalties. add to that any professional who has been complicit to ANY degree in this horror-show: police, medics, journalists – the whole damn lot of them need to be wiped out – and soon. it’s them or us.

Some on the Left see it as an opportunity to permanently re-fashion the relationship between the individual and the state. We now have a huge public sector and unprecedented intervention in personal lives. This is a route to better social justice in the eyes of some and they want it to become institutionalised. There has been interesting discussion on ‘authoritarian muscle memory’, i.e. the state becoming so used to ruling by decree that it never wants to go back, or at least it preserves the memory of its practice for a long, long time to come.

I would agree that this issue should transcend Left and Right. I don’t see the destruction of jobs, end of in-person education and the elites having a good time of it as particularly conducive to a fairer and more just world. I am not on the Left but if I was I would see this episode as a disaster for the cause.

About time to make a sensible party for common men and women, eh?

My vote is for the Slightly Silly Party.

I was a left-wing Labour voter, but I’ve spent an awful lot of time with anarchists this past year and find myself much more drawn to their way of thinking! I doubt I’ll ever vote again.

Absolutely tight…frankly they all need exterminating.

I think Hancock is easily moving into villain number#1 spot.

I wonder if he has plans to leave the UK once the destruction starts to come to a head. He cannot be safe in this Country for long.

Maybe his reward from the over lords will be the leadership position…

certainly doesn’t seem too concerned about any future enquiry that will only start when the never ending lockdown ends

Lets hope not

He won’t be the only one in danger.

I’m guessing he will eventually be escaped by U boat to one of ‘those’ S American countries and will hope to enjoy time with his relatives and other chosen volk and perhaps learn another European language.

Hopefully Peru – they have strict lockdowns there.

You have to hope that his constituents see him for what he really is and refuse to vote him back in followed up by any reasonable employer refusing to employ him.

Here’s the full list. Not exactly your average Brit family holiday destinations, are they?
It will stop a few people from seeing their families but this is mostly a huge storm in a teacup – or the thin end of a wedge.
We need to watch for what’s happening beneath this smokescreen!

The 33 hotel quarantine ‘red list’ countries
South Africa
DR Congo
Tanzania
Zimbabwe
Botswana
Eswatini
Zambia
Malawi
Namibia
Lesotho
Mozambique
Angola
Rwanda
Burundi
United Arab Emirates (including Dubai)
Mauritius
Seychelles
Portugal (including Madeira and the Azores)
Panama
Cape Verde
Argentina
Brazil
Bolivia
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
French Guiana
Guyana
Paraguay
Peru
Suriname
Uruguay
Venezuela

Not big players on the WEF scene… most using Ivermectin and HCQ. Not buying into the vaccine propaganda. Must be punished!

no Sweden? I suppose everyone there has died so its unnecessary

No, mate. The current line on Sweden from the Branch Covidians is that everyone there has got ‘long covid’.

I had to do a Google to find that Eswatini is what most of us know as Swaziland.

Ditto for me.

and me.

always a low scorer on Pointless . !!

I’m just having a discussion with covidian who believes being jailed for 10 years for lying on a form serves a reasonable deterrent. They can’t quite get their head around the fact that we have more fingers and toes each than Tanzania has had covid deaths.

I’m more bothered about the fact that with a stroke of the pen, without reference to parliament, without debate in parliament and without a vote by MPs this has been signed into law. Just where does this autocratic nonsense stop?

I’m only guessing, but I reckon they’d find it hard to carry on with their heads all on sticks ?

I see the number 33 pops up YET AGAIN! Over and over, I’m seeing it in nearly everything being reported. In plain sight as they say. More proof they’re laughing their tits off at us.

Well spotted! Yes, their ribs must ache quite noticeably nowadays.

Wondering why there are 33 on the list?

Because the USA is number 34 according to the list of at risk countries published by the DM. They DARE not include the US. They would run out of hotel rooms very quickly.

Dubai is on this list only as a punishment – too many people went there for a Christmas holiday and sent back lots of lovely images on TikTok, FB and Instagram. That wasn’t allowed as the message that was meant to be conveyed was one of misery and despair on every continent due to the big bad covid. So Dubai was summarily put onto a no-fly list a few weeks ago and as continuing punishment has now made it onto the Red list. This has also of course caused (deliberate ) stress within the UAE as Abu Dhabi was taking a different approach to their covid defences, yet they and their airline (Etihad) have been made to pay the same price as Dubai and Emirates with a cancellation of direct flights. The very fact that indirect flights were and still are allowed confirms of course its nothing to do with stopping spread and merely, as I said, a punishment. And the governments of the UAE will be unlikely to forget what Doris and Handjob have done to them, so don’t be expecting any Brexit dividend there if/when this fiasco ever scales don.

Sent this to the Home Office Attn: Priti Patel:

My question is for the Home Secretary, Priti Patel MP, as I am shocked by her recent decision to add the United Arab Emirates to the “red list” of quarantine countries in what can only be called a blatant and obvious attempt to control the official narrative of “travel bad”.

There was no medical or scientific reason for her to announce this decision.

It was purely political and an outright abuse of power.

Can you please explain your reasoning behind the decision? Is there any other than “must stop people travelling”?

No reply as yet.

Also sent to the Conservatives Central office requesting her removal from office.

Presumably no reply to that either…!? Shame..

How did you guess?

Unless you know the right people, of course….

“ this is mostly a huge storm in a teacup – or the thin end of a wedge .”

Definitely the latter, imo.

It’s invariably about setting up structures that can later be quickly, easily and quietly abused as and when the need and opportunity arises.

Got a FOI answer back from PHE about covid death reporting.

They do nto answer any of my questions as they cannot but they do apologise about it and sent me 2 links insetad:

Thank you for your email dated 24 January 2021 to Public Health England (PHE) in relation to COVID-19 deaths data. I work on the team that handles enquiries and have been asked to respond to your request. Please accept an apology for the delay in answering your email. PHE is currently receiving a high volume of correspondence about COVID-19 and this has affected our response lead times.

Thank you for taking the time to provide feedback on the manner in which daily death totals are calculated. We can pass your concerns onto the relevant team at PHE but regrettably we cannot answer your specific queries. However, we can provide you with the latest information on the daily deaths calculation.

Here is a web link to a blog titled ‘Counting deaths during the pandemic’ dated 08 February 2021.

https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2021/02/08/counting-deaths-during-the-pandemic/

Here is a web link to a previous blog titled ‘Behind the headlines: Counting COVID-19 deaths’ dated 12 August 2020.

https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2020/08/12/behind-the-headlines-counting-covid-19-deaths/

I hope you find this information helpful and apologise we could not answer your specific queries on this occasion.

The DHSC and NHS were sent the same questions so we’ll see what they say before I play one off against the other.

Great work.

Did amuse me that Public Health England in the first line of their blog used one of our btl posters ‘sadlidied’ word, although with the wrong spelling

Counting how many people have sadlidied with COVID-19 is not straightforward

Zoe update

R is still below 0.8 (it was 0.85 last summer)

new daily symptomatics back to September levels

https://covid.joinzoe.com/data

Ministers in talks to create Covid vaccine certificate to allow international travel – under pay-walled The TelegraphControl, control, control!

There are going to be council elections soon we need REFORM or RECLAIM to step up to the plate right now ! They need to be hammering at the airwaves and media (sorry forgot, censored) against these vile criminals who are infesting our “democratic” house..

Democracy here is dead if the only choice is Tories = lockdown
OR Labour = lockdown plus

Yes – it’s vital that there are clearly anti-lockdown candidates for people to vote for everywhere.

KBF Sussex are organising a slate of anti-lockdown candidates. Even setting up a ‘party’ (mandatory) is a Brobdingnagian nightmare.

Sorry – but local elections are irrelevant to this.

The nation made the key fatal choice over a year ago – and we’re stuck with it.

It wouldn’t have mattered who we voted for both parties have been singing from the same repressive hymn sheet.

The obvious assumption is that RickH wants to ensure that no alternatives to Labour arise, so that the Labour Party lockdown fanatics are rewarded for their collaboration by gaining power Presumably getting “his party” into office is in the end more important to him than lockdown issues.

No, just as Euro-elections were vital to the rise of the Brexit parties, so local elections are the necessary first step for anti-lockdown parties.

And as was highlighted yesterday, local authorities are the front line enforcers of the lockdown:

and the “civil servants” that work in the councils will take any notice of elected representatives, even if an election brought forward more independent councillors? i doubt it. they follow government (ie civil service) instructions

Independent councillors can get their voices heard though. And make things a lot more ‘rigorous’ for council officers.

Because things would have been so much better if Zero Covid Corbyn had been in charge for the last year.

Even that election was irrelevant.

Just to keep things inclusive, are there parties on the Left that want lockdown ended and are putting up candidates? Would be good for our wider audience to know.

I don t know !
Problem is many small parties now fighting for small slice of the pie with zero media coverage. Kurten s “Heritage Party” also in the mix.
Council elections, once irrelevant, will be interesting to see even if they can go ahead ! but there needs to be a strong showing at these elections or we have to realize that the political path is now a blind alley.

It’s going to be a brutally Darwinist environment, but presumably in the end effective parties will arise.

As you say, they must, or democratic means are exhausted.

I am sure Rick H will be able to highlight some left wing politicians and commentators who are opposed to Lockdown.

Surely at least some of them must have noticed what he has, that it’s all been “driven by the hard right”?

I mean, if not then surely he’s basically pointing out that the left-wing political class are all just too stupid to tie their own laces…

problem is they are going to split the vote
they need an alliance as per the Liberal-SDP in the 80’s

The AIER article in the links is pretty much what I’ve suspected from the start, that this is a perfect storm, that’s been a golden opportunity for a few.

One point missing though is that number 5. Governments, have increased their blind reliance on number 1. Big Tech and all the dodgy data that comes with it.

Worth saying again that border restrictions are yet another measure not recommended by the WHO in 2019.

This adds to a long, long list.

Everything, everything we thought we knew about pandemic management pre-2020 has been chucked down the memory hole.

I didn’t know anyhting about ‘pandemic management’ in the first place. And it was still obvious that what was being pushed was a crock of shit.

Is Bruce Reynolds around? I need cheering up with some story about wearing a gas mask in Specsavers and shouting that the SA strain is killing pets

Someone needs to film him in action, I would pay to watch it.

Fuck Steve your making me blush.. My old mum is still moaning like fuck about showing her up in the council office,as I said you got 400 quid of the bill, can’t please some people!

Mums are always the hardedst to please.

keep up the good work. your stories are being shared and cheering people up!

This was a New Year’s Eve party in Zanzibar, Tanzania

https://twitter.com/AlanAprich/status/1346392455474802694

Lucky gits

It seems abundantly clear that the ‘vaccines’ do not stop transmission. So what is the point of a vaccination passport? The illogic involved in these kinds of contradictions are gradually forcing me to believe there is genuine insanity going on.

Unless its not about a virus and about control, a passport to control everyone on the pretext of health would get the green light where a lot objections would come up as they have before, Blair tried to push ID for the UK and failed

It has always only been about the health passport. That will only be the first step. Then all other aspects of your life will be added to that digital passport – if we allow them

What’s going on is much more sinister than mere insanity.

Censorship is not limited to Facebook, twitter and newspaper comments, One of the places I visit is https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/ who today has a long tirade about lockdown et al and I might have guessed there is some sceptic blood in him. I made a comment earlier there about side effects from the AZ vaccine, together with some very relevant comments about restrictions to my favourite pastime, walking. Guess what, they have disappeared without trace. But lots of similar sceptic comments are allowed to remain.

If he had a long tirade about lockdown and there are lots of similar sceptic comments I suggest that there’s maybe something else going on. It would be strange that sceptical comments on a site that appears to be sceptical should not appear.

DavidC

If it normally takes 8 to 10 years for a vaccine to be developed and approved, how is it that in the last six months, not one but THREE new vaccines have been developed and approved; Pfizer, Oxford and Moderna, whilst two more are in the pipeline awaiting approval? Is this nothing short of miraculous?

Our plumber was here yesterday-a very level-headed and down to earth chap. He sees vaccines as the government’s ladder to climb out of the very deep hole which they have dug for themselves. I tend to agree with him.

its a ladder whose rungs are falling off due to ‘the mutants’

Let’s be clear :

“ its a ladder whose rungs are falling off due to fictions about (‘the) mutants’”

Exactly, they do not even appear to want to climb out of the ladder.

Mutants, vaccines, waves, infections, deaths with, etc. It’s fiction upon fiction upon fiction. Nothing can be proven or unproven, justified or unjustified, achieved or failed. They don’t need to when they can just deny objective reality and make their own.

The government has said the ‘vaccine’ will not end any restrictions.

Yes … and the gullible still can’t see the lack of good faith and sheer nonsense being thrust upon them.

It’s about surveillance and control of our movements – and that’s just for starters.

They are not really approved or licences.

They are under Emergency use Approval only which is a completely different kettle of fish.

Thanks AG, I understand that. They are still being jabbed into folks in massive numbers though, even if they are only approved for emergency use.

Yep, the EUA rules were not meant for for mass vaccinating whole populations, just sporadic. localised outbreaks of something.

Frightening isn’t it especially with the refusal by authorities to even think about looking at the correlation (I know it’s not causation etc) between the avccien roll out, covid outbreaks and increasing deaths in the targeted demographics.

Just waiting for the rise in problems in the 60s then 50s as the vaccine moves down the ladder to see how they deny everything then.

Yes, very convenient that they are all developed around the same time, isn’t it?
I’ve started quipping to some people that it’s so brave of folk willing to take an experimental vaccine of which I would prefer to perhaps wait until the human trials stage is over in a few years. The response is mostly of surprise/shock…….as if the dummies haven’t even considered that they are essentially test subjects.

I know DARPA along with our favourite billionaire’s fund was paying for mRNA vaccine research going back to 2011 I think.

Here’s a few links:

https://nanotechnology.news/2020-10-12-darpa-funded-implantable-biochip-deploy-moderna-vaccine.html

https://www.biocentury.com/article/304691/darpa-jump-started-technologies-behind-some-of-the-leading-covid-19-vaccine-and-antibody-hopes

https://www.mirrorreview.com/bill-gates-partners-darpa-for-covid-19-vaccine/

Oh and ModeRNA “forgot” to disclose the source of the funding:

https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2020/08/28/moderna-covid19-vaccine-coronavirus-patents-darpa/

Is it me, or does this say what I think it says? It’s from the DW report quoted ATL.

…. in order to avoid risking the successful curbing of infections …,

What is DW.? What is ATL?

DavidC

DW= Deutsche Welle, a state-owned German broadcaster.
ATL- above the line! Get with the beat, daddio!
BTL- nice sandwich on malted bread!

Probably a result of machine translation, rather than a tacit admission. On the other hand, what will our Dear Leaders do when infections decline?

Interesting that a machine could suffer from Freudian slip!

“Gefahren”/”Gefahr laufen” can, I think , mean either “risk” or “jeopardise” in a particular context- probably supposed to mean “jeopardise” in this case- not entirely sure, Silke D will know for certain, she’ll no doubt be round before long.
(Cloth-eared translations by people who know the words but don’t understand the context are a perennial problem- the classic example, which may well be urban myth, is supposed to be the translator who translated “Einstein” as “une pierre”.)

Thanks.

Off topic – Been trying to find out what the fancy new anntenas are that are now in the centre of nearly every town, sometimes a few of them.

Couldn’t really find a proper picture but this article from the Sun shows them sort of plus you can see the shape through the flames in a couple.

Now I know, they are 5G masts.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/11421457/ee-5g-towers-masts-5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory/

They weren’t there a few months ago but now seem to be sprouting up everywhere.

Anyone live near one of these and is there a covid cluster in your area?

I know Walsall for sure.

The way I’m feeling now I want more than just 5G masts burning.

33 warns of risk to human life….oops had my tablet upside down…EE warns of…..

For roll-out of social credit passports… an app that records your every move and activity, and determines how many “credits” you get (credits replace money) – no one works, no more jobs, people just exist and are told when they are allowed outside. If you’re not good (defy masking order and vaccine order) you are not allowed out.

Which is why the 2m social distancing – so the individual devices can be listed as individual locations and not all lumped together.

get a non mainstream phone that cannot be tracked

The Gab phone will arrive soon

also Sailfish on the Xperia ( I have 4 of them)

https://jolla.com/sailfishX/

Grant Craps says “Vaccine passports may be introduced, to help the tourism industry” Labour is “Open to the idea”. Well, blow me down.

Just a conspiracy theory.

3 weeks to flatten the curve

For weeks read years, or possibly decades.

Flatten the economy

It was always about vaccine passports!

No, it was and is all about the vaccines. The vaccines are all about depopulation and everything else is a distraction.