Last updated2021-02-12T14:29:05



411024 Ossettian, replying to Ossettian, 24, #1 of 2096 🔗

I nornally read the comments first but as there aren’t any I’ll have to go straight ATL.

At least it is Will.

411236 ▶▶ popo says, replying to Ossettian, 3, #2 of 2096 🔗

Brave man!

412438 ▶▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to popo says, 1, #3 of 2096 🔗

It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain

Sonia Elijah
February 12, 2021

412600 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 1, #4 of 2096 🔗

The British do not benefit from their relative placidity, that’s for sure.

412442 ▶▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to popo says, #5 of 2096 🔗

A lesson in oppression for the mask generation
Sophie Birtles
February 12, 2021

412947 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, #6 of 2096 🔗


412555 ▶▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to popo says, 1, #7 of 2096 🔗

Uk Police Catch Saucy Couple Doing A Bit Of Dartmoor Dogging

411369 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Ossettian, 2, #8 of 2096 🔗

When there’s a Will, there’s a way.

411484 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to rockoman, 2, #9 of 2096 🔗

Will you give it a rest?
Or: where there’s a will there’s a family argument.
Take which you will.

412440 ▶▶▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Dermot McClatchey, #10 of 2096 🔗

Michael Gove, the Brexit betrayer
Timothy Bradshaw
February 12, 2021

411493 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Ossettian, #11 of 2096 🔗

Let me know if there’s anything of interest up there- I haven’t looked ATL for three days now.

411500 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 1, #12 of 2096 🔗

Yes. Today’s has some good critique.

411552 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Cheezilla, 1, #13 of 2096 🔗

Thanks, CZ!

411717 ▶▶▶▶ Binra, replying to Cheezilla, 2, #14 of 2096 🔗

If it isn’t the same critiques as have been reiterated – or rather coming from the same framed narrative reaction – then I missed it.
For anyone new LDS may of course be a stepping stone. But a stepping stone is not a destination.

To be fair, ATL is expressly a limited hangout in that from the outset it was not going to allow crackpot theories. Which provided a kettle within which to talk about covid like we might talk about football or the weather.

As I see covid as being a many levelled intent to lockdown consciousness as well as freedom of movement or business, the degradation and redefining of the mind as dispossessed but ‘happy’ or reprogrammed to system compliance as the new normal for ‘social virtue’, and etc, I feel the most important defence or resilience to the mind-virus is the re-education and development of consciousness from a new place, as a mind renewed and not as a reset to the same old control but ratcheted up as biosecured, carbon assets, under mainstreamed groupthink enforced by robots.

There was a complaint of the replacement of clinical judgement by medical mandates. A bit late! The replacement of doctoring by clinical skills with pharma dictated biomarkers and standard of care had degraded doctors to be replaced by robot-screen dispensers, along with any other system management for the underclass. Life is being replaced with system efficiency under corporate structures that are themselves captured and controlled by the system of finance and law that they are expressions of.

‘Killing the goose that lays the golden egg’ or ‘Midas finding you cant eat gold’, A ‘monopolistic tower disintegrates to babble’ – the mythic record is full of condensed wisdom-experience that the active-ignorant and arrogant have no basis by which to recognise that wisdom is NOT control over fear nor the invoking of deep demonic fear and forces for the sake of gaining a dream of ‘Control’. Wisdom is a discernment within the whole, not fear distanced, locked down and set apart and over its experience.

There is a view that says that our only opportunity for healing the deeper ills that plagued even our old normal*, is in the exposure to awareness of it.
(*but were effectively lidded over and masked out for the many),

My sense of life is that denied conflicts are carried and active in our lives and world regardless our surface awareness of them. Reconciling our selves and our world with Reality is not a bargain struck!

“Forgives us our illusions as we forgive them in others”.
Integrity is not a tick boxed social mask of correctness, but a truly integrated life. Where there are areas we are unable or unwilling to face, the mind generates ‘protections’ as bubble ‘realities’ of a limiting substitution and displacement, that operate an evasion in delay. This is called ‘control’ or indeed power. That closing of our eyes or mind can shut off a living Universe from awareness, is a kind of freedom or power, but while it can provide time or space in which to grow willingness, it does not change the underlying Law that a Living Universe is the manifestation of. Hiding or masking narratives are a form of magic that demands the distortion and perversion of logic.

If this novel ‘virus’ had not been ‘discovered’ as a needle in a haystack of selected code fragments put together again with computer software, and run with by a rabid media blitzkrieg that displaced all else to shape the minds that gave attention their, what would have been different? Allow that the reactions generated upon organised panic are the principle destructive event still unfolding a fear and control agenda within the frame of the narrative set.

Nothing is more dangerous than a false basket of protection into which all our eggs are placed, while the centralisation of power and wealth always becomes the possession of control over subjection. Monopoly is not relational. That is to say there is no life or love in it. It’s a dead thing and a death cult founded on dead concepts. To which the living give sacrifice in order to get for themselves alone. To get their protection for a locked down, distanced and supported masking. This IS a choice.

411587 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Ossettian, 2, #15 of 2096 🔗

Although I would have liked to see some of the stuff which is at the bottom featured as a leading article instead of just copying from MSM.

412886 ▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Ossettian, 3, #16 of 2096 🔗

Trump’s Lawyer Uses Video Montage of Dems to Absolutely DESTROY Their Case
Trump’s lawyer David Schoen just played a DEVASTATING video montage of Democrats and their incitements of violence which blows apart their entire impeachment case. WATCH Trump Lawyer EXPOSE Dems for playing manipulated video of Capitol Rio

411025 TheClone, replying to TheClone, 130, #17 of 2096 🔗

The real conspiracy theorists believe that the government cares about them, the media would never mislead or lie to them and the pharmaceutical industry that makes billions off sickness wants to cure them.

411031 ▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to TheClone, 49, #18 of 2096 🔗

Trouble is no big pharma has come up with a cure for stupid which the UK governement is in dire need of

411035 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Judy Watson, 65, #19 of 2096 🔗

They are not stupid but evil.its important to make that distinction.

411046 ▶▶▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to jonathan Palmer, 29, #20 of 2096 🔗

Both are oversimplifications, one (stupid) born of the rationalist paradigm, the other (evil) of the religious (millenarian) paradigm. They’re reasonably bright and devious in limited ways. They are the people who do well in the current system. And the current system is fatally flawed and outdated. The funny thing is, there does need to be a great reset. Just not the one they are accused of attempting.

412507 ▶▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 3, #21 of 2096 🔗

Rushing out an experimental vaccine ,which they know is killing people,is evil in my book

412301 ▶▶▶▶ Binra, replying to jonathan Palmer, #22 of 2096 🔗

We would be wise to recognise that evil is consequence NOT a true cause.
The cause of evil is the sin of placing self-illusion above real relationship.
This error is correctable. But it runs as a mindtrap.

Sin is not self imaginings as such, but of giving them priority over truth, such as to usurp the mind that MUST then deny and attack truth as threat to its ‘self-invested illusion’. Threats are seen as evils – even if they are a genuine feedback, such as to be denied and sacrificed for the ‘survival of the self-illusion or system that proceeds from it.

Another means by which evil comes in is the wish to generate meanings and narratives to divert away from self-exposure so as to divert from the obvious denial of truth and lack of substance in all kinds of tricks.

The ‘necessary evil’ or the ‘noble lie’ is the foundation of doublethink or masked self contradiction as a basis for a mind and a world of such mindset. It generally posits as the lesser of evils when set against feared or modelled outcomes.

The mind can model virtual outcomes without computers, but taking the modelled outcome as a fact and reacting as if it is true is to exchange a wish or a fear for a living truth.

The manipulation of the mind begins with wish and fear made ‘real’ by giving priority of energy and attention (or funding and resources for the collective mind). This generates scarcity and fear of lack, conflict and competition, set in power struggle as weapons of deceit.

The need to believe and worship evil as a cause stems from the uncovering of hate, attack and guilt in our self as a horror to be excommunicated, eradicated, cast out or cast in a masking displacement layer of self justification. What we give energy and attention to is what we feed and fund and value by action, regardless the mask of ‘war on evil’.

This consideration of evil and its characteristics continues on:

412354 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Binra, 3, #23 of 2096 🔗

Nothing remotely noble about what they are up to. They want the planet for themselves and we are in the way. The vaccines are here to fix that.

411491 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Judy Watson, 1, #24 of 2096 🔗

Think it might have been Sergey Brin who said he’d never been able to write a patch for stupidity.

411515 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Judy Watson, 11, #25 of 2096 🔗

Calling the government stupid is letting it off the hook.

411528 ▶▶▶▶ J4mes, replying to Rowan, 27, #26 of 2096 🔗

This hoax has proven beyond doubt the stupidity of the public has reached dangerously high levels.

411602 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to J4mes, 19, #27 of 2096 🔗

Yes, the high level of public support for the highly malevolent UK government would strongly support that view.

412649 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Rowan, 1, #28 of 2096 🔗

Electing this lot in the first place had already made the point.

412654 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to RickH, 2, #29 of 2096 🔗

After a lot of scare propaganda about Corbyn which gave us Johnson, we now get scare propaganda about the new Black Death…

412334 ▶▶▶▶ Binra, replying to Rowan, 2, #30 of 2096 🔗

I focus more on buying into the circus of diversion from the underlying regulatory capture. Vengeance doesn’t correct error to restore the conditions for live to flower and thrive or in a truly living sense, survive.

They are groomed as media fronts to face out the leveraging that is orchestrated in private and rubber stamped for public consumption. Or indeed predation upon the public as a result of Private ‘partnering’ (sic).

By all means uphold the law that represents and serves the sovereignty of the common people. I don’t know if rehabilitation is possible, there has to be a willingness. An addict has to bottom out in some way that gives them their life back against all hope or expectation, and as a basis to live from a renewed sense of life and purpose, one step at a time.

I appreciate that people seek to make sense within what they know, but the nature of current events is to reveal that all we thought we knew was wrong or at the least fundamentally questionable.

Perhaps the incoming technocratic saviours will appeal to your desire to damn and destroy their proxies along with what’s left of any social and parliamentary structure for political oversight.

There HAS to be huge influence at back of all this. the seeming leaders are as little dogs barking madly with impunity because they and others in any position, know that wealth, influence and power of penalty is supporting the show. Without financial QE style bailout and lube, this whole thing would be dead in the water in a day!

411610 ▶▶▶ albert hall, replying to Judy Watson, 2, #31 of 2096 🔗

Not to mention a very large part of the population

411545 ▶▶ Van Allen, replying to TheClone, 7, #32 of 2096 🔗

Yes I’m pretty jealous of those living in LaLa land with a loving caring Government and freedom just around the corner.

411741 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Van Allen, 2, #33 of 2096 🔗

Somewhere over the rainbow.

412023 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Van Allen, 2, #34 of 2096 🔗

Freedom is always just around the corner. So is enslavement.

412359 ▶▶▶▶ Binra, replying to bebophaircut, #35 of 2096 🔗

Slaves live the hope that freedom is coming.
A dissociation from present experience is set in past and future.
True presence is not a narrative identity.
Or narrative stamped on the face of the present.
Jealousy and envy operate from self-lack – which is the same as the above.
These are reintegrative or ‘spiritual’ considerations.
As an undoing or healing of the dissociative and segregative – that becomes disintegrity and destructive to the whole.
Where is our freedom right here and now?
Does the reader go to the head or the heart for answer?

411026 Rich, replying to Rich, 51, #36 of 2096 🔗

Good morning all! Hoping to spread some hope and peace to you all…

Let’s keep our spirits up and avoid the mental pitfall of boundless pessimism. It’s a human tendency for us to dwell too much in the present, and feel that things will continue as they are, but they never do! As unprecedented as these lockdowns are in their severity and scope, this is far from the first time in history that a new pathogen has been met with draconian measures. There is a predictable “new pathogen” response cycle that societies tend to go through, and we will most definitely come out of this cycle just like we did all the others. Hopefully this time we will finally learn the lesson of liberty that this educational episode can teach us.

Today I found this interview with Jeffrey Tucker (Great Barrington Declaration fame) to be very uplifting – his positivity and historical knowledge is amazing:

If you’d like to zone out for a bit, here’s a hopeful video I watched recently:

411059 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Rich, 15, #37 of 2096 🔗

Hear hear. Wallowing in pessimism helps no one.

411390 ▶▶▶ katz, replying to Annie, 5, #38 of 2096 🔗

I think that’s untrue. Wallowing in pessimism helps governments, sage scientists and pharmaceutical companies.

411128 ▶▶ maggie may, replying to Rich, 39, #39 of 2096 🔗

Thank you for this. This morning reading the piece about vaccine passports, i have felt more demoralised than ever. i have already had a large chunk of the rest of my life removed by the government and it looks like another large chunk is going to go too, ie 2021, i don’t want the vaccine although i have now been invited to make an appointment, being of a certain age. Just hope i will not be prevented from doing anything enjoyable (which in my case is not a lot, i don’t ask for much!) in the future if i continue not to have a vaccine. But your post has given me some optimism again. Thanks

412302 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to maggie may, 4, #40 of 2096 🔗

Its hard. Just had this conversation with my wife. She wants to have the jab so she can “get back to normal and get on with her life,” but why would this government give you back your life? Its so easy for them. They know where you are and you’re not going anywhere. Can’t protest, can’t complain, can’t hurt them. Lovely! I think my wife just wants to go on holiday. But that will be awful, tests, masks, tests, more masks. Not really much of a holiday, then prison when I get home, sounds dreamy!

412514 ▶▶▶ lizzie81, replying to maggie may, 2, #41 of 2096 🔗

I don’t think I will ever be able to leave the country again… 😞 there is no way I am having a “vaccine”

411157 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Rich, 8, #42 of 2096 🔗

Thanks Rich. It’s been a demoralizing news round up this morning.

413032 ▶▶▶ Binra, replying to Pebbles, #43 of 2096 🔗

The hope that ‘it will go away’ is the susceptibility to pitfalls of despair. Putting faith in externals is giving power away. If every time a liar lies, you see untruth, then you are not looking for truth from where it is not.
Then you will see what is not being said and what is being revealed behind the attempt to conceal, not within a complex of deceits, but as the mask over hidden truths.
Those fixated on external outcomes do not see or want or value truth except it serves the outcome.
If you love life and live the loving, and this is true, then this is a foundation not to be abandoned for the fears that would rob you of it – so as to ‘sell it back to you’ inside a package of false premises for protection or profit.
If we do not use adversity to connect at the heart, we give it the power to destroy our lives – even if the shell is left intact.
Hope of change is surely not unfounded in a realm of always changing, but to see the true paths and opportunities calls for being truly present and alert – not least to mind viruses! But also for our peace.
The mind does not have it and can never give it, while divorced from the heart and struggling to manage from a distanced, locked down sense of lack and grievance. The calm of a true peace is not a medicating tranquilliser, but the embrace of what is here within being simply and directly present. This means learning to not let the mind get in the way as an already reactive emotional state.
How can we be responsible for a life that everyone else is in ‘control of’?
If we neglect what is within our own sphere of responsibility while driven to change what is not our personal or direct responsibility.
So it is not the hope of a positive change that is wrong so much as putting all our eggs in needing it to occur according to our ‘terms and conditions’ or those of others who set their ‘offers’ seeking consent under duress and misinformation that hope WANTS to be true or fears to question.

411027 Teddy Edward, 45, #44 of 2096 🔗

Somebody needs to throw the first stone.But who and when?.I’m through with idle chat and pondering this and that.Words require actions.For every action there is a reaction it’s our lives at stake here not our frail liberties.

411028 karenovirus, replying to karenovirus, 50, #45 of 2096 🔗

‘Another Government U-turn.
Vaccine Passports on the way’

The lockdown junta are boring in their predictably.

411029 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to karenovirus, 30, #46 of 2096 🔗

Show me your papers! Are you a second or third class citizen? I am the controller of the papers and so I am above all of you!

411192 ▶▶ jb12, replying to karenovirus, 38, #47 of 2096 🔗

It isn’t a U-turn, though. They lied in the first place: this was always the planand it won’t stop at trips abroad.

411425 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to jb12, 12, #48 of 2096 🔗

Very good point. The media isn’t even able to call out blatant government lies.

412625 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to stewart, 3, #49 of 2096 🔗

I notice the tabloids like The Sun try to be upbeat, The Grauniad in contrast likes to doom-monger.

411595 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to karenovirus, 9, #50 of 2096 🔗

It sounds as if a lot of countries expect other countries will demand proof of vaccine so they prepare for it. That is what I understand Sweden’s official line is.
So, just like lockdown, everyone is copying everyone.

412218 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to karenovirus, 4, #51 of 2096 🔗

“Manchester-based cybersecurity firm VST Enterprises has signed a deal with digital health company Circle Pass Enterprises (CPE) to create a digital health passport designed to “manage a safe return to work, life, and safe travel” after the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic.

The two companies have partnered to create “the world’s most secure digital health passport”, known as Covi-pass, and according to VST Enterprises, are committed to working with governments and “major stakeholders” to deploy the technology.

CPE will ship the digital health passports to 15 countries around the world, including Italy, Portugal, France, Panama, India, the US, Canada, Sweden, Spain, South Africa, Mexico, United Arab Emirates and The Netherlands, with the goal of supplying 50 million digital health passports. The first passports will begin shipping from next week.

VST Enterprises’s VCode and VPlatform technologies will be integrated into the Covi-pass to ensure it is secure.”

11th May 2020….

413127 ▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to LMS2, #52 of 2096 🔗

The globalist filth has been planning this for a while

412870 ▶▶ james007, replying to karenovirus, 1, #53 of 2096 🔗

I think we should stop talking about u-turns. They imply that the Government was going in one direction with a purpose, only to change their mind.
For over a year now they haven’t had the faintest clue what to do about Covid-19. Without the technocrats telling them what do, they would have no ideas at all. Rather like Corporal Jones on Dad’s Army, they are running around screaming “don’t panic! Don’t panic!” Whilst thowing grenades in all directions.
They are like children, deluded into think they are great men of state.

413126 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to karenovirus, #54 of 2096 🔗

„East German government: @we have no Intention of building a Wall“

411030 Judy Watson, replying to Judy Watson, 92, #55 of 2096 🔗

I am dead set against the idea of ‘covid passports’, what about those who cannot have the vaccine due to allergies/previous history/medications they are receiving?

Regrettably i think this will come about. Thailand has been talking about it but nothing concrete as yet.

I would rather not have any of the vaccines and definitely will not have the Pfizer one.

However to travel between here and the UK I fear i may not have an option.

I feel like I am being held to ransom by the governments of both countries.

411033 ▶▶ Teddy Edward, replying to Judy Watson, 49, #56 of 2096 🔗

No intention of travelling again.My partner is from Slovakia and that’s under despotic control because somebody sneezed in Bratislava 11 months ago so that suits both of us.In the absence of an Aviation Industry it’s all irrelevant.

411761 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Teddy Edward, 16, #57 of 2096 🔗

Travel means nothing, if a compulsory lethal injection is part of the deal.

412629 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Rowan, 3, #58 of 2096 🔗

Well, death is the ultimate journey. Of course, they can’t say the jab is what brings you there…

411066 ▶▶ Suzyv, replying to Judy Watson, 65, #59 of 2096 🔗

I will be sitting back and watching and waiting regarding the vaccines and travel. And yes looks like it may mean not travelling overseas for a while which may not be practicable for some I know due to family and work etc. There are already a great many adverse reactions published and this will only get worse with time. No matter how hard they try to cover it up some of it at least will come out. And it isn’t just a headache or sore arm, heart attacks, strokes, bells palsy, loss of sight etc and even some deaths admitted and we haven’t started on the possible autoimmune illnesses and ADE for some further down the line although they will definitely try and say no link to these. It’s a personal choice but is a risk of a very serious life changing reaction worth it? And if with time there seems to be no risks then you can think again- although the reactions have already started so I am not hopeful on that.

411094 ▶▶▶ kpaulsmith1463, replying to Suzyv, 9, #60 of 2096 🔗

I would refer you to the YT Channel & website, ‘Hugo Talks’, where he DOES talk about it.

411117 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Suzyv, 19, #61 of 2096 🔗

Indeed – the info. is starting to come out re effects of the Vax – and this is before many have had the 2nd one and goodness only knows what will happen then. In fact I think one of my main concerns is re the effect on the person themselves – not their body. I do wonder and there’s some comments already that the Vax will affect about one-third of people mentally. Already there are reports coming out of the person themselves changing – eg an instance I read of a couple of close relatives and close friend commenting that the person themselves has changed (ie their personality has gone from outgoing etc to depressed and introvert and they just aren’t themselves any more). There have been several tales of that sort of thing I’ve read recently. Added that, I know it’s only anecdotal, but apparently some very well-known (spiritual) healers have reported that they were simply unable to “reach” three people they tried to send distance healing to any longer – and it felt like there was a blockage in the way that they had never experienced with people they had tried absent healing on prior to The Vax. Very early days yet – but I am concerned about the effect of The Vax on the person themselves (and not just their body).

411662 ▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to ElizaP, 7, #62 of 2096 🔗

It reminds me of Pullman’s intercision!

412816 ▶▶▶▶ Spearthrower Owl, replying to ElizaP, 1, #63 of 2096 🔗

I have also read that – quite some time ago – and it makes me think that there will be a category of people “vaxed” behaving very differently from the “uvaxed”

411118 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Suzyv, 4, #64 of 2096 🔗

I agree with everything you said Suzy

411142 ▶▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Suzyv, 16, #65 of 2096 🔗

Please can everyone send the latest UK Medical Freedom Alliance Brief about vaccines to their MPs, and also to medical correspondents in the media… you can find it on their website in pdf form. It is pushing for an enquiry regarding the side effects. Also distribute to others who are thinking of getting vaccinated. Thank you.

411582 ▶▶▶▶ kate, replying to Pebbles, 7, #66 of 2096 🔗

I have done this and am very glad I did. I also sent it to my local councillor who said he has forwarded it to the local Director of Public Health



411190 ▶▶▶ rose, replying to Suzyv, 18, #67 of 2096 🔗

We have n’t had the second round yet. Adverse reactions will be much worse and then when ‘vaccinated’ come into contact with the live virus …who knows

412603 ▶▶▶▶ primesinister, replying to rose, 2, #68 of 2096 🔗

TThe data from the vaccine adverse event reporting website ive only seen for usa, is pretty grim reading plenty dead after mrna jab.

411753 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Suzyv, 6, #69 of 2096 🔗

Knowing what I have learnt since last April about this being a political agenda and not concern for our wellbeing, we will not comply.

411771 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Bella Donna, 12, #70 of 2096 🔗

They will have to tie me down first. It is all a scam and their end game is massive depopulation.

411136 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Judy Watson, 45, #71 of 2096 🔗

Can’t be bothered with all this. If this means doing a George V and simply staying in this Sceptered Isle for life (he loathed the idea of travelling abroad anyway) then so be it.

My family live in the Philippines and have long drunk the lockdown Kool Aid and if their insane government wishes to plunge more Filipinos into the extreme poverty bracket then the lockdownistas there will deserve everything they get.

This is what the Greens have long wanted – a new Medieval Age where foreign travel is only the preserve of the mega rich, celebs, politicians and royals. While the rest of us have to make do with Scarborough.

411251 ▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Bart Simpson, 11, #72 of 2096 🔗

GeorgeV: seems to have loathed travelling anywhere outside Sandringham estate to judge from his last words: “Bugger Bognor”

411304 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to mikewaite, 6, #73 of 2096 🔗

That too. He was forced to go to Italy for his health during the late 1920s which Queen Mary was excited about because it meant her visiting the museums there but as she later wrote George’s philistinism partly ruined the holiday.

412949 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Bart Simpson, #74 of 2096 🔗

Scarborough is very nice.

411211 ▶▶ primesinister, replying to Judy Watson, 4, #75 of 2096 🔗

And the people who do not wish to be par of this experiment.

411315 ▶▶ Mr Taxpayer, replying to Judy Watson, 2, #76 of 2096 🔗

I’ll carry a card if I HAVE to. If I have to put an app on my phone, I’ll get a cheap phone with nothing on it but the app and only turn the phone on when required to show it.

411391 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Mr Taxpayer, 22, #77 of 2096 🔗

Then you are collaborating
We will find ways around the system
fake papers and apps will be readily available
The Government is inherently incompetent

411397 ▶▶▶ katz, replying to Mr Taxpayer, 9, #78 of 2096 🔗

I haven’t got a phone. Live free (er).

412607 ▶▶▶ primesinister, replying to Mr Taxpayer, #79 of 2096 🔗

please dont do any of those things ,it wont be easy but we must resist

411756 ▶▶ Rowan, replying to Judy Watson, 3, #80 of 2096 🔗

All the western vaccines are part of the depopulation scam. If push comes to shove, perhaps the Russian Sputnik vaccine might be the best of a bad bunch, but even then not if it can be avoided.

412103 ▶▶ Paul M, replying to Judy Watson, 10, #81 of 2096 🔗

I’m hoping Reiner Fuellmich and his crew will expose all this and bring the house of card crashing down.

I always thought coercion to have unwanted medical procedures went against international law.

Indeed, even the Council of Europe (a group of, I think 47 countries) recently stated vaccines should be voluntary and those not having them must not be discriminated against

Many of us saw this coming, but were written off as conspiracy theorists. Well, the are becoming conspiracy facts. I dread for the future if the rest of the stuff starts coming true

412129 ▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Judy Watson, 5, #82 of 2096 🔗

don’t give in or try not to, it’s what they want . i wont get any vaccine. the more of us who refuse the faster the vacine passport plan will disintegrate and not too soon enough i say

411032 jonathan Palmer, replying to jonathan Palmer, 135, #83 of 2096 🔗

Note to Will and Toby.It not a u turn when this has been the plan all along.
It’s called deception and they won’t just be for holidays,they will be needed to access normal life.Be a proper journalist and research the Chinese Social credit system.
Q codes,track and trace,temperature scans and masks are all just conditioning to get us to accepted the premise.

411034 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to jonathan Palmer, 66, #84 of 2096 🔗

Reply to myself.They did highlight China in the article.My apologises.This is the future they have planned for us.If anyone is in any doubt to the Governments malign intentions this should dispel it.
We have a small window in the summer to stop this before a critical mass of people have been vaccinated.

411099 ▶▶▶ kpaulsmith1463, replying to jonathan Palmer, 21, #85 of 2096 🔗

…OR before a critical mass of people explode, as things reaching critical mass tend to do.

411309 ▶▶▶▶ Mr Taxpayer, replying to kpaulsmith1463, 36, #86 of 2096 🔗

Agreed. Let’s hope for a hot Easter and May BAnk Holiday for a mass outbreak of “Enough is enough”. Never have I looked forward more to the prospects of huge crowds heading for beaches and tourist spots.

412090 ▶▶▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Mr Taxpayer, 2, #87 of 2096 🔗

Hear hear

411404 ▶▶▶▶ katz, replying to kpaulsmith1463, 20, #88 of 2096 🔗

Yes, all empires fall and all despots meet their end. This happens throughout history.

411432 ▶▶▶▶▶ stewart, replying to katz, 7, #89 of 2096 🔗

Tool 70 years in Russia.
The CCP reached 70 and going strong.

412141 ▶▶▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to katz, 3, #90 of 2096 🔗

history is very reassuring to me now and so many peopel here know so much about histroy i love reading the commenst thank you all

411619 ▶▶▶ Woden, replying to jonathan Palmer, 4, #91 of 2096 🔗

Good sunny summer weather will help

411638 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Woden, 15, #92 of 2096 🔗

But will it change a malevolent government, which is clearly working to the globalist depopulation agenda. This sold out government is in it far too deep to back off now and it will push this madness to the bitter end.

411624 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to jonathan Palmer, 15, #93 of 2096 🔗

Yes, vaccination in the key. They are so intent on injecting people with biological agents, which have nothing to do with disease prevention , that we can be absolutely certain that their intentions are totally malign. People who still fall for the government nonsense will deserve all they get, but of course they are dragging the rest of us along into the nightmare scenario.

411169 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to jonathan Palmer, 19, #94 of 2096 🔗

Thank you for saying it as it is. Since last year I have sent emails to Toby et all saying “look at the bigger picture”… they have a bigger plan. It’s a global-fascist coup d’état, not governmental incompetence. I wonder when, if ever, he will come round to that that the Chinese Control State was always the goal, depopulation via vaccines par for the course.

411426 ▶▶ Thomas_E, replying to jonathan Palmer, 12, #95 of 2096 🔗

Agreed..this will not stop at travel.When your employer asks you for a vaccine certification or no job ,shit will hit the fan and I will have to have a deep look at my self and just how strong are my conviction. I think that right at the end I will be forced to take it in order to feed my family. Or I will put a gun in my mouth. Both are options I have been thinking a lot about lately.

411709 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Thomas_E, 6, #96 of 2096 🔗

Guns in mouths don’t feed families!

411735 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Thomas_E, 8, #97 of 2096 🔗

Those taking the vaccines are effectively putting a gun to their own mouth. This is all about depopulation and the vaccines are their weapon. The only option is resistance.

412094 ▶▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Rowan, 1, #98 of 2096 🔗

Totally agree

412330 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Janette, 2, #99 of 2096 🔗

There are people who seem to think it’s all lockdowns. It isn’t, as you know.

412569 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Thomas_E, 5, #100 of 2096 🔗

So glad I don’t have a family – and most of all that I’m retired. If push comes to shove – I will be off – only I will use carbon monoxide (I gather one is asleep literally in a matter of minutes and painlessly – provided pppm is high enough – ie parts per million). I’m not having the Vax no matter what ever.

411036 Teddy Edward, replying to Teddy Edward, 89, #101 of 2096 🔗

My Agency texted me all front line workers to be vaccinated by the 15th of Feb this is in Wales.My response short and sweet.I know plenty of Nurses who are saying no so watch the shitty care Home sector collapse as the Foreign Legion and the Africa Corp attempt full control of the day to day running of these camps.

411038 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Teddy Edward, 61, #102 of 2096 🔗

Thank you for standing up for yourself and other healthcare professionals who are being coerced into taking an untested, experimental gene therapy. I can only hope there are enough of you and of us laypeople who refuse. Coercion is not informed consent.

411122 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 5, #103 of 2096 🔗

Yes let’s hope so

412634 ▶▶▶ RoseE, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 5, #104 of 2096 🔗

I think there’s a new definition of Informed Consent. You have been informed. You will consent.

411056 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Teddy Edward, 20, #105 of 2096 🔗

You have my respect, Teddy.

411060 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Ceriain, 21, #106 of 2096 🔗

God damn Dungford and his foul, filthy minions.

411123 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Teddy Edward, 12, #107 of 2096 🔗

I’d be interested to know exactly how they phrased that “request” (aka instruction) please. (Willing to bet it was phrased along lines of “You are all to ensure you have been vaxxed by 15 Feb”, rather than “We’d like to request that those who have decided to have the Vax ensure it is done by 15 Feb”). I don’t blame you for giving short/sweet response whatever way they phrased it = your body your choice. Do keep us posted.

411151 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Teddy Edward, 22, #108 of 2096 🔗

Thank you for saying NO. If you need ammunition, please show them the UK Medical Freedom Alliance latest letter in pdf format that outlines the severe adverse reactions and deaths in care homes. They also have the Informed Consent Letter…

411372 ▶▶ fiery, replying to Teddy Edward, 9, #109 of 2096 🔗

Well done for not agreeing to have the vaccine although sadly the majority of nurses and medical staff will happily agree to be injected as being assertive simply isn’t in their nature.

411509 ▶▶▶ Sceptical Steve, replying to fiery, 7, #110 of 2096 🔗

As we saw a couple of days ago, the government’s plan is to coerce health professionals and the over 70s into having the jab, on the basis that their failure to do so will delay the ending of the lockdown for the rest of us.

411037 Alex B, replying to Alex B, 13, #111 of 2096 🔗

When things get crazy, and things for the last year have been off of the Richter scale crazy, like many people who visit and comment here I, all of us, find solace in something to try and keep an even keel. For me it’s music and photography, and books and poetry; so I thought I’d offer this, a poem I love and has meaning for me in these dystopian times.
[as freedom is a breakfastfood] by e.e.cummings

as freedom is a breakfastfood
or truth can live with right and wrong
or molehills are from mountains made
—long enough and just so long
will being pay the rent of seem
and genius please the talentgang
and water most encourage flame

as hatracks into peachtrees grow
or hopes dance best on bald men s hair
and every finger is a toe
and any courage is a fear
—long enough and just so long
will the impure think all things pure
and hornets wail by children stung

or as the seeing are the blind
and robins never welcome spring
nor flatfolk prove their world is round
nor dingsters die at break of dong
and common’s rare and millstones float
—long enough and just so long
tomorrow will not be too late

worms are the words but joy’s the voice
down shall go which and up come who
breasts will be breasts thighs will be thighs
deeds cannot dream what dreams can do
—time is a tree(this life one leaf)
but love is the sky and i am for you
just so long and long enough

411039 ▶▶ Teddy Edward, replying to Alex B, 5, #112 of 2096 🔗

Lovely but the broken dong concerns me would a handful of fiery jack improve that condition?

411040 ▶▶▶ Alex B, replying to Teddy Edward, #113 of 2096 🔗


411090 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Teddy Edward, 1, #114 of 2096 🔗

Shades of Larry Grayson.

411626 ▶▶▶ Woden, replying to Teddy Edward, #115 of 2096 🔗

Is this the Dong with the Luminous Nose?

411577 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Alex B, 1, #116 of 2096 🔗

They tuck you up, your mum and dad. Look after your grandchildren if you can.

411041 primesinister, replying to primesinister, 21, #117 of 2096 🔗

Dan Hodges talking about suicide clueless prick ,,, as i have contemplated this during low moments and all due to lockdown.

411111 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to primesinister, 3, #118 of 2096 🔗

Hodges enraged me with this guff. And what the hell is a “senior mental health charity”?

411436 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to Charlie Blue, 1, #119 of 2096 🔗

Just another of bunch of puffed up social scientists who don’t realise how little they actually know about anything.

411572 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to primesinister, 1, #120 of 2096 🔗

Another Red Prince, best ignored.

412318 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to primesinister, #121 of 2096 🔗

Yes I have no proof but you must be wrong because I said so. What am arrogant twat!

411042 Scotty87, replying to Scotty87, 44, #122 of 2096 🔗

I haven’t flown since 2014, and now I can happily announce that I won’t fly until this wretched exercise in vaccine coercion is completely dismantled.

I don’t care if it takes 10 years.

411044 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Scotty87, 23, #123 of 2096 🔗

I do believe my travel days are over. It used to make me very sad, but as each country is worse than the next I don’t believe I’ll be missing anything. The best I can hope for is that the Canada-US border opens up to vehicular traffic at some point in my lifetime and I can drive to a sane place like Florida for a vacation. I used to hate Florida, but everything is topsy turvy now.

411051 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Scotty87, 26, #124 of 2096 🔗

That is all very well but many people have family in other countries, we have family in Calgary and our twin grandsons are in Kampala, as far as my wife and I are concerned, in the end, we will do whatever it takes to get to see them.
I do feel that there is a problem with this vaccination passport as unlike yellow fever etc, this vaccine is thought to have a limited protection period and so there is going to be quite an issue keeping it up to date.

411061 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Steve Martindale, 31, #125 of 2096 🔗

It will cause such chaos that they will have to drop it.

411070 ▶▶▶▶ Suzyv, replying to Annie, 29, #126 of 2096 🔗

That has occurred to me too. What about all the people who can’t have vaccines due to health, allergies, pregnancy etc. I suppose they will say get a letter from your GP, then the GPs will be complaining they are inundated and cannot do it. There are disability discrimination issues although that’s only for the UK it’s upto each country what their own laws are. Protected characteristics under the Equalties Act includes health but also religion and philosphical issues. Then there is the Data Protection Laws and Human Rights Laws certainly all applicable across Europe.

411077 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Suzyv, 24, #127 of 2096 🔗

Not only that, but different victims will have had different snake oils, and some countries will accept some oils but not others.

411442 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ stewart, replying to Annie, 12, #128 of 2096 🔗

Did you not notice how quickly the WHO jumped in to squash the squabbling over the Oxford vaccine?

Anyone who thinks there isn’t some form of supranational coordination going on is simply not paying attention.

411081 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Annie, 14, #129 of 2096 🔗

I think you’re correct, Annie. My concern is that these bastards are in this for the long game.

411125 ▶▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Annie, 1, #130 of 2096 🔗

Fingers crossed

411145 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Steve Martindale, 8, #131 of 2096 🔗

Sorry to hear this and I have been surprised to find the number of “international” families there seems to be these days – as I can think of very few personally and those don’t maintain regular physical contact. But do please consider responsibilities to others (ie the wider Society) and stay unvaxxed – and not let the Government use “international” families as a “thin end of the wedge” to push the Vax on the rest of us.

411758 ▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to ElizaP, 8, #132 of 2096 🔗

I too, have been surprised by how many people have family abroad. Also astonished at quite how many people regard international travel as a normal part of their lives. It’s only the events of the past year that have actually confronted me with the stats and made me think about this aspect of modern life. I am curiously naive about the world in which everyone else lives.
I’ve only been on an aeroplane once (or twice, if you include the return trip) and that was for a school trip in 1972. Mrs F has never been on a plane at all. The whole idea of getting on one of those flying tubes and going to foreign, and potentially dangerous lands, fills me with horror. Mind you, the idea of staying in this country with the kind of future the tyrants have planned for us, and the kind of zombies who apparently make up the majority of the population, now fills me with horror too.

411377 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #133 of 2096 🔗

in the end, we will do whatever it takes to get to see them.

….. and it could kill you and you might never see them again

yes having family in other countries makes it much more complex – therefore to fight this with everything you have. This includes standing together and vote for the new political parties at the next election – never vote conservative or labour again.

411440 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #134 of 2096 🔗

The logistical issues are enormous. We should really not overestimate the capability of governments around the world to organise something so vast and complex.

This doesn’t mean they won’t try, bit we have time to build up an opposition to it. There is time.

411116 ▶▶ cubby, replying to Scotty87, 13, #135 of 2096 🔗

Unfortunately I fear you are too optimistic. When Governments worldwide enforced smallpox vaccination it took a massive outbreak among the vaccinated in 1871 to reverse public opinion, an entire city (Leicester) to resist it and another 50 years of diminishing public acceptance until punishment for vaccine refusal was removed from the law.
In our time, the compliance of the public and the efficacy of the government’s propaganda wing (mainly the BBC) will allow all future deaths related to the vaccine to be classified as Covid deaths.

411121 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to cubby, 3, #136 of 2096 🔗

Interesting on the smallpox vaccinations – is there a concise account of this anywhere?

411137 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to TJN, 3, #137 of 2096 🔗

I’m also wondering if there is a suitable link that could be given for us to read about this online. It was news to me to read online (here I think??) re that mandatory smallpox vax thing happening and going on so long – as I’d not known anything about that. So it would be useful to read about it and details of how it was removed eventually.

411141 ▶▶▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to ElizaP, 2, #138 of 2096 🔗

I remember way back in 69 that I had to have a smallpox vaccine to visit the USA, don’t know when that stopped though?

411745 ▶▶▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to ElizaP, 2, #139 of 2096 🔗
411850 ▶▶▶▶ cubby, replying to TJN, 2, #140 of 2096 🔗

Read “Dissolving Illusions” by Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk. The chapter on smallpox is an eye opener, the one on Polio an absolute shocker.

411910 ▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to cubby, 1, #141 of 2096 🔗

Many thanks – I see it on Amazon, and where a part of the smallpox chapter is available to view.

Is this the ‘Anti-vaxxer Bible’?

412581 ▶▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to cubby, 1, #142 of 2096 🔗

I’ve just received a copy of that in the post today – think I must have read about it on here and then decided to order a copy.

411462 ▶▶▶ Simon, replying to cubby, 1, #143 of 2096 🔗

News travels faster today, so things will change much more quickly this time as people share information.

411131 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Scotty87, 7, #144 of 2096 🔗

I’m with you on this. I gave up flying personally – for environmental reasons and personal health concerns (ie about the quality of air within cabins of planes for instance) some years back – probably around 2010. I don’t like feeling I literally can’t fly though – by Government diktat – as not flying is MY decision and MY decision only. But I have to admit there doesn’t look to be any chance to fly for literally the rest of my life courtesy of the Government – even if I changed my mind and decided to (NB; my estimated remaining lifespan is 15 years). Just as well I had made my own personal decision before all this that any foreign travel to farflung parts would be done now after I’m dead anyway and I can manage without for a few years and then happily start travelling again as soon as I’m dead (ie relocated to “Heaven”).

411476 ▶▶▶ Simon, replying to ElizaP, 8, #145 of 2096 🔗

You needn’t worry about the air quality in the cabin, in the majority of aircraft it’s bled from the compressor stage of the engine and filtered many times before coming into the cabin. Usually above your head and exits beneath your feet. It can be pretty dry in there though.

The air is from a fresh source, unless you have an oil leak in the engine which can cause it to smell quite bad…

Newer aircraft use fresh air from the outside, filtered and distributed around the cabin in much the same way.

411762 ▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Simon, #146 of 2096 🔗

Good to know. Thanks!

411872 ▶▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to Simon, 5, #147 of 2096 🔗

You are correct, but only for airlines where smoking is allowed.
One of the reasons smoking was banned is it did not allow the airline to recirculate air. When smoking was allowed, it was continuous fresh air which had to be heated.
This has a fuel cost and the use if recirculated air is the reason behind the rise in respiratory ailments in airline travellers since the smoking ban.
So curiously enough, when smoking was allowed at the back of the plane, the air quality was better for the majority of passenegers.
Dr John Brignell has written extensively on this:

412590 ▶▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Nessimmersion, #148 of 2096 🔗

Yep – I’d gathered that the airlines used to do the continuous fresh air and then stopped doing so and doing recirculating air instead – for cost-saving reasons. Didn’t know it was connected to smoking – so that’s new info. to me.

411158 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Scotty87, 9, #149 of 2096 🔗

Agree. I have family abroad but given how much they’ve imbibed this Kool Aid hook, line and sinker I don’t care if I see them physically again.

Life is short and if I do get to travel again, I want to go to places because I want to be there not because of any obligation.

411223 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 9, #150 of 2096 🔗

Have all Fillipinos drunk the kool aid? I know a nurse here and she is a lockdown fanatic….I had a huge row with her and have not spoken since. She called me a selfish bastard!

411265 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Boris Bullshit, 8, #151 of 2096 🔗

Certainly among the people in my Arsebook circle they’ve all drunk the kool aid. Not surprising as they’re mostly rich or middle class or are teachers still being paid despite the schools being shut.

The only sceptic I know is a friend of mine – we had a fairly long chat 2 weeks’ ago and she was concerned about how the lockdowns are affecting children (she has one).

411313 ▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 15, #152 of 2096 🔗

Interesting to hear that Bart. The nurse I know has a house over there but has married an old pensioner here and moved into his nice country house…no doubt it will soon be hers! She rants on about how her job is now impossible with covid and how we all need to stay indoors all day and night for months. I suggested she change job and maybe take up one in an office if doing the job she trained for is so bad.

She is the new breed of health fascist who thinks the NHS is all that matters in the world and that they have the right to dictate how everyone lives so that her job will be easier. It reminds me of a fireman I knew who lectured me about having a log burner!

411380 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Boris Bullshit, 7, #153 of 2096 🔗

That sort of attitude doesn’t surprise me. Filipinos are resilient yes and are some of the nicest people in the planet but sadly the vast majority aren’t bright and easily take things as gospel truth so long as it’s an “authority figure”who says it.

We actually have a saying for that friend of yours, its translated as “big headed” or “swell headed”. Just because she works for the NHS she thinks she’s special and ergo is “swell headed”

411554 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 6, #154 of 2096 🔗

I don’t think she counts as a friend anymore…as I said she called me a selfish bastard for daring to suggest there are other things in life besides viruses and health. I think you have a good point about the listening to ‘authority figures’.

i am fortunate that I worked out decades ago that such figures are not to be trusted…never more so than now.

411919 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Boris Bullshit, 3, #155 of 2096 🔗

My road-to-Damascus moment was when my primary school headmaster loudly opined to my class teacher that left handed people were in some way, can’t remember his exact words, mentally deficient. My eyes were opened as to the true nature of authority at that moment and have remained open from that day to this. So thanks, Mr. Walker. I owe you a lot.

411980 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Boris Bullshit, #156 of 2096 🔗

As a kid, my school reports constantly described me as a “malcontent” and of course like the Japanese, the Filipinos also have a way to hammer down those who stick out.

So glad that I got out.

411317 ▶▶▶▶▶ stalfie, replying to Bart Simpson, 7, #157 of 2096 🔗

Round my way, a village in rural South East, it is the tradespeople who are the most ardent lockdown and mask fanatics- for others! You should read the rants if an old lady should linger for a little chat in the butchers shop, or if a few lanky teenagers gather in a skatepark. These people are out all day, mingling with colleagues, going into customers homes, and – this is the crunch- very very jealous of what they perceive to be people being paid to loll about at home.

411386 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to stalfie, 5, #158 of 2096 🔗

It’s “rules for thee but not for me” isn’t it? Mr Bart points out that for many people they’re happy to break the rules when it suits them but if its other people, they clutch their pearls and go “oh no, no, how selfish of them”

411043 Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 54, #159 of 2096 🔗

Nobody can “prove immunity status” by virtue of having taken an experimental gene therapy that was never intended to stop you from getting Covid or spreading Covid. FFS, the manufacturers themselves have said these treatments don’t confer immunity. At this point all I can hope for is that the adverse reactions keep piling up and the countries that have immunized the most keep wracking up more “cases” and deaths. It’ll take some number of years, but I believe we will see ADE/pathogenic priming and a proliferation of autoimmune disease, in addition to the already high rate of more immediate adverse reactions.

411074 ▶▶ Suzyv, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 29, #160 of 2096 🔗

Totally agree. Adverse reactions are coming in. I am personally hearing of them through friends and family and literally every other day. If you look on Vernon Coleman’s website he is keeping details and updating regularly.

411102 ▶▶▶ kpaulsmith1463, replying to Suzyv, 11, #161 of 2096 🔗

Or, as I mentioned above, look up Hugo Talks on YouTube – kid does good work.

411958 ▶▶ kate, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #162 of 2096 🔗

The problem is that adverse reactions to vaccines have been evident for years. This has not led to their safety being reassessed.

411045 jonathan Palmer, replying to jonathan Palmer, 6, #163 of 2096 🔗

I just received an email from my daughters school.They are planning mass testing of children when they finally return,using the LFT

411067 ▶▶ Sodastream, replying to jonathan Palmer, 31, #164 of 2096 🔗

Hi Jonathan, is your daughter at primary or secondary school?
I had this stress around Xmas as my son who is at secondary year 7, his school were introducing it.
They need parental consent which we obviously did not give and he’s been left alone ( he’s there as key worker child) It stressed me out a lot though as many emails coercing parents to fill out the consent form. After all “it would reduce the spread” and “make school safer”.
Utter bollox. There is a part on the forum “testing in secondary schools” though it ground to a halt as the schools shut.
There are some good template letters on us for them uk and miriaf.webs.com which has excellent letters for all manner of mask/ testing / vacc etc issues.
I haven’t needed the letter for school this for but one is brewing as my son was asked to explain his exemption for non mask at the school gate by a a high vis gestapo.
My son replied “my mum says I’m exempt” bless him. She didn’t like that!

411229 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Sodastream, 1, #165 of 2096 🔗

Well, it’s all your fucking fault, you parents, isn’t it. You gave up your rights over your children to the state.

It was always going to end like this.

The future of freedom is ironically in the land of Gates and FAuci, the United States, where homeschooling and farmer’s markets and evangelical communities still exist.

413003 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to FedupofLies, #166 of 2096 🔗

where homeschooling and farmer’s markets and evangelical communities still exist.

We’ve got all these things in Sussex, FuoL.

Now if you’re talking about the 2nd Amendment, I’m completely with you.

411361 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Sodastream, 6, #167 of 2096 🔗

explain his exemption for non mask at the school gate by a a high vis gestapo.

My son replied “my mum says I’m exempt” bless him. She didn’t like that!


Great information thanks! Al parents should use these resources and challenge testing – it leads to anxiety in children = child abuse

411047 nickbowes, 31, #168 of 2096 🔗

Another day, i wonder which gates paid non-entity “expert” (on a gold plated guaranteed by the tax payer, secure pension) will be on the news, suggesting years long “lockdown” is worth it, if it only saves just one 83 year old.. Come on people, as the prophet Icke says “time to get off our knees” !

411048 SallyM, replying to SallyM, 19, #169 of 2096 🔗

The suggestion to deflect attention to the overweight is abhorrent. Why would anyone who cares about liberty and autonomy and decency want to replace Covid tyranny with another? I’m sick to death of people trying to escape their predicament by turning the spotlight onto smokers or the overweight or some other scapegoat category.

411052 ▶▶ Annie, replying to SallyM, 18, #170 of 2096 🔗

Satire, m’dear.

411054 ▶▶▶ SallyM, replying to Annie, 3, #171 of 2096 🔗

Oh yes, the height of wit.

411063 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to SallyM, 1, #172 of 2096 🔗

I wonder how you would have responded to Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposa l?

411073 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Steve Hayes, 2, #173 of 2096 🔗

Get the cookery book out! Enfants à la sauce Robert.

411126 ▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Steve Hayes, 2, #174 of 2096 🔗

A poisonous little piece, and a wonderful send-up of the type of spreadsheet management that has got us into this current mess, three centuries ahead of its time.

411082 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to SallyM, 4, #175 of 2096 🔗

Don’t feel bad, Sally. We’re that used to seeing bad news above the line, it’s easy to be fooled. 🙂

411750 ▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Annie, 1, #176 of 2096 🔗

It might be satire but we don’t need to go around giving them ideas. 🙂

411104 ▶▶ sophie123, replying to SallyM, 6, #177 of 2096 🔗

I quite like the idea, given that Johnson, Gove and Patel are chubbers.
Hancock, Witty and Vallance could stand up on TV and harangue them. See how they like it.

411154 ▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to sophie123, 3, #178 of 2096 🔗

Look into their eyes

413006 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to SallyM, #179 of 2096 🔗

As a smoker, I can only say that I look good under a spotlight.

411049 kpaulsmith1463, replying to kpaulsmith1463, 12, #180 of 2096 🔗

Andrew Cuomo, mass-murderer.
I truly, truly HATE this guy.

411064 ▶▶ Annie, replying to kpaulsmith1463, 16, #181 of 2096 🔗

Anybody believe that they didn’t do the same over here?

411068 ▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Annie, 44, #182 of 2096 🔗

The only country in the west that didn’t attempt to cull their elderly, was Belarus. Instead, during the initial 3wk house arrest, infection control teams were sent to all the nursing homes, alongside supplies of PPE. And then life resumed as normal. Poor Belarus, with their awful dictator. Sigh

411563 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Jinks, #183 of 2096 🔗

Perhaps we’ll get a huge golden statue of Dilyn soon like the chap in Turkmenistan put up. Would be very suitable for the continuing worship of Baal Hammon/Moloch/NHS.

411631 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Nigel Sherratt, 1, #184 of 2096 🔗

satanic occult ritial sacrifice, in broad daylight, and most people haven’t a clue how demonic this all is.

411050 Crystal Decanter, replying to Crystal Decanter, 14, #185 of 2096 🔗

Bring it all down

411237 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Crystal Decanter, -4, #186 of 2096 🔗

Don’t give me Peter Hitchens. At the beginning he was a hero, but now he doesn’t even touch the issues of the coup d’état by Big Pharma and the coming Reset.

He could have used his position to lead protests. Instead he just sat on his ass complaining about David Icke.


All that stuff about ‘courage’ and the previous generations bla bla bla and he does nothing himself.

He could have been a real leader, THE leader.

Instead he sat it out.

411257 ▶▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to FedupofLies, 6, #187 of 2096 🔗

How bout you do it rather than criticising others?

411281 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to FedupofLies, 4, #188 of 2096 🔗

He has made it pretty clear that he fears mass civil disobedience more than he fears lockdown. He has stated in a spiked interview that he thinks Ferguson is a man of integrity and that he thinks that govt ministers are driven by the best of intentions.

I used to like him but he is becoming increasingly annoying. I find it hard to think of someone who thinks those things as being on the same side of the barricades as me.

411434 ▶▶▶ Tattersall, replying to FedupofLies, 5, #189 of 2096 🔗

If he wasn’t ‘moderate’ he wouldn’t be allowed on the MSM. As it is it’s difficult enough for him. Pity, but there we are.

411053 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 90, #190 of 2096 🔗

I am 59 years old. I have had 3 heart attacks (told no. 4 will probably be it), I’m asthmatic, I have no spleen, and have COPD. I had a double heart bypass 5 years ago; since then, I’ve never felt better.

I’m a person who, were the vaccine real, would have been jabbed by now. I declined the offer when it was made this week by my GP.

No, Mister Hancock, I will NOT take your poison!

411057 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ceriain, 32, #191 of 2096 🔗

Brave words. May you live long and prosper.
And you don’t swallow his verbal poison either. That’s resistance.

411085 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Annie, 31, #192 of 2096 🔗

Bless you, Annie. 💖
I’ll do everything in my power to live long enough to hopefully see the bastard pay for his crimes.

411095 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Ceriain, 16, #193 of 2096 🔗

I’m confident we all will.
It will be the biggest celebration in British history. VH Day.

411241 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Annie, 8, #194 of 2096 🔗

And what about the overwhelming majority who supported him?

People will NEVER admit their complicity.

As Musk said “people wanted this”.

A CHOICE was given: the public accepted.

This is the beginning of 1984. Winston Smith is in the future. Brave New World, too!

411147 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Ceriain, 4, #195 of 2096 🔗

Keep going! Well done mate.

411156 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Ceriain, 3, #196 of 2096 🔗

Not necessarily so- re the 4th one. My erstwhile brother has gone through 14 heart attacks last I knew and he’s just erstwhile status because he’s turned out to be the right little selfish sh*t I’ve long thought he was, but he is still alive as far as I know – so I don’t want to know someone like that any longer. NB; I’m sure you’re a much nicer person than he is I hasten to add…

I admit to astonishment that anyone could have survived so many heart attacks…

412682 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to ElizaP, #197 of 2096 🔗

14! OMG!

413129 ▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to ElizaP, #198 of 2096 🔗

I very much doubt that he has had 14 heart attacks – methinks it is more likely to be acute angina attacks. I know someone who told me he had another ‘heart attack’ – turned out to be an angina attack – being the blunt arse that i am I told him in no uncertain terms to stop lying and exaggerating.

411183 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Ceriain, 2, #199 of 2096 🔗

Well done. KBO!!!

More power to your elbow sir!

411226 ▶▶ Hoppy Uniatz, replying to Ceriain, 7, #200 of 2096 🔗

You are undoubtedly the only person on this thread with no spleen!

411641 ▶▶▶ AshesThanDust, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 1, #201 of 2096 🔗


412691 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 1, #202 of 2096 🔗

Literally, yes; figuratively, no. 😉

411527 ▶▶ Mutineer, replying to Ceriain, 11, #203 of 2096 🔗

It’s a medical trial!!! Nobody will underlying health issues should even be offered the death elixir (vaccine it ain’t) They are not even checking medical histories! I have been offered it and I had a severe life changing reaction to a BCG jab I was forced to have working in the NHS and never worked again. It hasn’t been tested on people with health issues or people on medication. It’s slaughter.

411945 ▶▶▶ kate, replying to Mutineer, 1, #204 of 2096 🔗

You are quite correct. This experimental treatment will be riskier for those with underlying problems.

411536 ▶▶ Old Trout, replying to Ceriain, 2, #205 of 2096 🔗

Brilliant! I wish my dad had some of your spirit. He has what he calls a ‘dicky ticker’ which has turned him into the world’s biggest hypochondriac and, despite all the information I showed him about its lack of effectiveness and possible side effects, he couldn’t wait to be jabbed. I wish you all the best for the future.

412679 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Old Trout, 2, #206 of 2096 🔗

Thanks, Old Trout.

I, too, have met a few people who have had heart attack/s and have used it to almost give up on living, or wanting to do anything, but really are, just as you say, hypochondriacs. That said, I’ve met plenty like me who used it as an excuse to live life better.

411055 Annie, replying to Annie, 45, #207 of 2096 🔗

How the sheeples are going to enjoy their double knickers. A wire digging into the bridge of your nose. Knots digging into the sides of your face. A tight string yanking at each ear. Itchy material clamped tight against your nose and mouth and facial skin. Then another wire and more knots and more itch on top, grinding the first lot further into your face. And if you work in a shop or other public place, this is for eight hours a day with no remission. And if the Fascists have their way, it goes on for ever .
Enjoy, sheeples, enjoy.

411186 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Annie, 8, #208 of 2096 🔗

We’ll probably be seeing more skin problems. Not just your usual acne but severe dermatitis and impetigo for a start.

412503 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Annie, 2, #209 of 2096 🔗

The mask tan should be interesting this summer. I imagine them all looking like reverse Barney Rubbles.

411058 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 71, #210 of 2096 🔗

Fauci claimed that face masks were of no use for the general population and recommended that people did not wear them. He later claimed that face masks prevented transmission of the virus and recommended that people wear them. Asked about this change, he claimed he had been lying when he had said that face masks were of no use. Later Fauci claimed that wearing two face masks was better than wearing one, as two were obviously more effective than one. Within days of this new position he admitted that there is no evidence that double masking is effective in preventing transmission of the virus.

The World Health Organisation has also struggled with this issue. It changed its long standing position on face mask wearing by the general population in June 2020, not on the basis of evidence, but, as even the BBC reported, as a result of political lobbying. (Unfortunately the BBC did not identify the lobbyists.)

Here at home we saw the same pattern with experts pointing out that face mask did not prevent transmission of virus and they were not recommended for the general population. Then the government changed its position (something neatly led up to in the media) and made face mask wearing mandatory first on public transport and later in other indoor public spaces. Chris Whitty, the Chief Medical Officer, was asked by the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee about the evidence for this change. “The data had not changed. What changed was our interpretation,” was Whitty’s reply.

Of course this change of position had the serious problem (for people whose incessant mantra was “the science”) that there not only was no evidential support for it, but there was decades of research against it. So studies were quickly generated, showing masks reduced water droplet transmission, which we were all supposed to believe proved that face masks prevent transmission of the virus.

The change of position on face masks was political, and it was global, and it happened in a very short period of time.

411062 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Steve Hayes, 8, #211 of 2096 🔗

Maybe gay saunas impact the mind

411130 ▶▶ cubby, replying to Steve Hayes, 17, #212 of 2096 🔗

The change in position may reflect a change in personal or family investment in companies producing the lockdown paraphernalia.

411246 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to cubby, 2, #213 of 2096 🔗

good point

412724 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to cubby, 3, #214 of 2096 🔗

It would simply reflect what Bill Gates wanted.

411342 ▶▶ Mr Taxpayer, replying to Steve Hayes, 28, #215 of 2096 🔗

I’ve been free-faced throughout. I was walking out of ASDA Hereford 30 minutes ago and was stopped by 2 of West Mercia’s finest. Apparently they had been called by the security guard that I reminded of the extent of his powers a few days earlier. I told them I was exempt. they explained it easier if you carry a card or something, so I flashed my “I am exempt” free card downloaded from .gov.uk and I was let on my way. The best bit was them walking across to the security guard and telling him I was exempt. I could have pointed out a few other points of law but my daughter was with me and the bacon was getting warm.

411639 ▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Mr Taxpayer, 6, #216 of 2096 🔗

I am surprised they respond to these calls.
They could as well explain to the security person on the phone what the law is and ask him to review how he handled it, and not waste their time.

411901 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Silke David, 3, #217 of 2096 🔗

I suspect the filth might have been hoping to make an example- possibly accompanied by a scare-piece pour encourager les autres in the local rag- of Mr. Taxpayer.

411065 Scotty87, replying to Scotty87, 38, #218 of 2096 🔗

So most Brits back immunity passports, eh? Well let’s see how that stacks up next summer. It’s easy to virtue-signal and give the “right” answer in a poll, it’s very different to roll up your sleeve and be jabbed with an unlicensed, experimental form of gene therapy.

I’m predicting wails of desperation from the heads of the Spanish and Greek tourist boards before long.

411089 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Scotty87, 29, #219 of 2096 🔗

Immunity passports? Not even the developers of the so called vaccines claim their products confer immunity; they merely claim their products reduce the severity of the symptoms. This is an admission that the “vaccinated” may well be walking around carrying the virus and thus be able to pass it on to others.

411113 ▶▶▶ PeeDubbya, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #220 of 2096 🔗

Steve, The paper work that comes with the Pfizer jab clearly states in the ‘what is it used for’ section:

COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a vaccine used for active immunisation to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus

The vaccine triggers the body’s natural production of antibodies and stimulates immune cells to protect against COVID-19 disease.

To me, that sounds like they are claiming immunity, not a reduction in the severity of symptoms. More truth massaging going on here probably

411132 ▶▶▶▶ cubby, replying to PeeDubbya, 1, #221 of 2096 🔗

A job for Trading Standards? Does this department still exist and if so maybe a UK resident could report this?

411529 ▶▶▶▶ Sceptical Steve, replying to PeeDubbya, #222 of 2096 🔗

My assumption would be that they’ll claim that “Covid-19 Disease” is an acceptable description of the more serious consequences (hospitalisation, death) of the Viral Infection, which is what the vaccines claim to suppress.

411263 ▶▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Steve Hayes, 7, #223 of 2096 🔗

I think the distinction between immunity status and vaccination status is being deliberately fudged. They are different things.

411729 ▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Scotty87, 5, #224 of 2096 🔗

Several people including me pointed out yesterday that YouGov was founded by Vaccines Minister Zahawi. MW

411877 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Scotty87, 1, #225 of 2096 🔗

The Greeks somewhat opened up last summer – they had to, as they depend on tourism and the reported death toll from Covid was tiny last year until November, when it rose for obviously seasonal reasons.
This year they will certainly be wanting people to hit the beach.

412509 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Waldorf, 1, #226 of 2096 🔗

Won’t be me if they want a CovviPass.

411069 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 51, #227 of 2096 🔗

My local authority of Torridge has a case rate of 19/100000, the neighbouring area of North Devon has a case rate of 25.7/10000. The hospital for these areas, Barnstaple, serves a population of 164,253 people. The NHS data board reports that there are currently 2 Covid patients in Barnstaple Hospital and as far as I am aware the hospital is running relatively normally.

The actual local area where I live and am ‘locked-down’ has a case rate of zero because try hard as they like they cannot find any virus. People locally look hale and hearty, stop and chat in the street, walk through the local woods all looking very fit and healthy. Yet the schools are half shut, the pub is shut, the village hall is closed and we are not supposed to travel very much.
How long can they impose all these restrictions when there is virtually nothing happening and it is proving so hard to find any signs of virus?

411071 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Steve Martindale, 27, #228 of 2096 🔗

For as long as the zombies bleat for it.

411144 ▶▶▶ Harrydean, replying to Annie, 12, #229 of 2096 🔗

That’s the sad truth Annie. We can blame the government but they do seem to have the support of the majority. The vaccination potential time-bomb may become difficult to hide though.

411146 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Steve Martindale, 9, #230 of 2096 🔗

I know that’s why they are going door to door testing people. They are so desparate to find cases so they can keep us locked up.

411252 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #231 of 2096 🔗

How long? As Sunetra Gupta warned, until some nasty virus is on the rise because of the lack of social mixing.

These people know what they are doing: they are genocidal SCUM!

411548 ▶▶ Sceptical Steve, replying to Steve Martindale, 3, #232 of 2096 🔗

I would expect that your suggestion that Barstaple Hospital is running “relatively normally” is far from the truth. My wife works as a secretary within the clinical psychology department of our local NHS hospital and is expected to wear mask and goggles throughout her time on the premises. Hancock and Johnson need to address how they expect the hospitals to reduce their massive waiting lists when all the staff, clinical and administrative, are forced to continue working under such restrictive and unnatural conditions.

411072 Friedrich Stapß, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 5, #233 of 2096 🔗

Quick, off-topic questions, arising from something I’m translating.

Are supermarket shelves in Britain empty?

Is it difficult to buy wine?

411076 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 12, #234 of 2096 🔗

Only the government minds and souls are empty!

411079 ▶▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to TheClone, 14, #235 of 2096 🔗

That’s what I thought. I can’t give details, but people very high up on the continent are peddling the notion that British supply chains have collapsed and supermarkets are empty. It seems to be part of a sort of doomsday atmosphere they’re nurturing.

411540 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 4, #236 of 2096 🔗

Laphroaigh regularly heavily discounted at local Sainsbury’s and the reassuring smell of brewing drifts over from Britain’s oldest brewer so no, it’s balls of course.

411685 ▶▶▶▶ JanMasarykMunich, replying to Friedrich Stapß, #237 of 2096 🔗

The ‘leaked Canadian report’ mentions:

Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.

I really do not know what to think about this document…


411914 ▶▶▶▶▶ kate, replying to JanMasarykMunich, 1, #238 of 2096 🔗

It seems remarkably prescient for something I first read last October. Since then, second wave, stronger lockdowns first local, then progressing to nationwide, mutations, travel restrictions, both internal and external, increased pressure and propaganda directed against the minority that will not accept vaccines……

None of this had occurred last October, in fact I remember reading this and thinking it unbelievable.

Just waiting now for the supply chain breakdown, financial collapse and being carted off to the isolation facility under the Coronavirus act as a danger to society. Oh, and having all my assets confiscated, of course.

On a more optimistic note I am hoping that the attack on private property will prove to be a step too far. The right to own private property has been a cornerstone of British law.

411078 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 16, #239 of 2096 🔗

From observations locally in North Devon, no and no, our village shop and the greengrocers in Torrington have stacks of fresh produce, the bakers have plenty of bread, the wine shelves are full and the farms are producing plenty of eggs milk and cream.

411080 ▶▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to Steve Martindale, 11, #240 of 2096 🔗

Thanks. No one I talk to in the UK has mentioned anything about this either. I must say I’m a bit blown away by what I’m having to work with today. It goes a long way beyond what I’ve hitherto believed possible. I’d better leave it at that.

411160 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 2, #241 of 2096 🔗

Oh don’t – do tell us more…

411446 ▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 3, #242 of 2096 🔗

I read the German press.

I have noticed too.

411083 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 16, #243 of 2096 🔗

no. the supermarkets are as normal

traffic on the roads seems normal – I don’t know where everyone is going as not much open

london is almost deserted

411088 ▶▶ DevonBlueBoy, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 6, #244 of 2096 🔗

No and very much no!!

411163 ▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 4, #245 of 2096 🔗

I did read an article – forgotton where about an English supermarket in Belgium that was struggling to get English produce onto it’s shelves due to the vast amount of paperwork for a single item.

411571 ▶▶▶ Sceptical Steve, replying to Judy Watson, 1, #246 of 2096 🔗

This has so much to do with the UK government not giving proper guidance on the trade deal that it was doing. (As various commentators said at the time, 95% of the deal was done and dusted by the middle fo 2020. The rest was just political theatre.) In a practical sense, I expect that the ultimate solution will have to be for small UK exporters to abandon the idea of point to point delivery and route items through EU-based wholesalers.

411184 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 7, #247 of 2096 🔗

In Cretinigulag Wales, Wales, I can buy as much wine as I like from the supermarket so long as I buy it before 10 p.m.

411231 ▶▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to Annie, 11, #248 of 2096 🔗

I’m kind of blurred in my brain from a long day’s work, which is my only excuse for having read that and thought “Oh, Annie just told us the village where she lives”, having mistaken Cretinigulag for an actual Welsh placename.

411280 ▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 2, #249 of 2096 🔗

Dylan Thomas would call it ‘Dnaltnuc’

411201 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 1, #250 of 2096 🔗

Nope. Well stocked and loads of food and wine for Valentine’s Day weekend.

411254 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Friedrich Stapß, #251 of 2096 🔗


411272 ▶▶ Alethea, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 1, #252 of 2096 🔗

Hilarious. No. I go to Waitrose two or three times a week. It’s completely normal in what it’s stocking and the quantities available.

411343 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 1, #253 of 2096 🔗

Trying to buy an EAG oven – no stock available. No frozen french croissants at Ocado (much better than the local ones). Think a lot of products from Europe will become difficult to get

Later this year we will be presented with food inflation and higher taxes

412784 ▶▶ rose, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 1, #254 of 2096 🔗

We just bought 6 bottles and the shelves in Aldi were full

411075 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 23, #255 of 2096 🔗

Good to see Will ATL again today.
Maybe Toby will do the weekend shift and he can remind us all again that this is just incompetence and Boris being terrified of the death numbers.
I’ve read many people on this forum BTL say, “this is not/was never about a virus”.
They’re right, it’s not, it never was, and it’s not about a vaccine either!

411234 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Ceriain, 5, #256 of 2096 🔗

Yes such nice people these govt ministers and they have our best interests at heart. Sadly even Peter Hitchens thinks that!

411084 Richy_m_99, replying to Richy_m_99, 63, #257 of 2096 🔗

Henceforth, I no longer wish to be referred to as anti-vaxx. That implies that I have not given any consideration to other options.

Indeed, I decline in spite of my mother now being scared of seeing me, such is the level of fear that has been instilled in her by this evil regime and a complicit media.

I now wish to be considered a conscientious objector.

411166 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Richy_m_99, 6, #258 of 2096 🔗

It would be useful for us all to have a (suitable of course) name that could be used by us to describe our refusal to have The Vax status. I am personally totally anti all vaccinations and also anti The Vax. But I would think it likely most on here would have vaccinations – but not have The Vax. So I can/do call myself an anti-vaxxer (and that means I’m anti the lot of them and also anti The Vax) – but I appreciate others would like to differentiate to make it plain they are in favour of vaccinations but not The Vax.

412021 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to ElizaP, 11, #259 of 2096 🔗

I have mentioned before that I say I am in the Control Group – vital for any medical experiment . It also sounds like a positive choice which is correct and important.
Most don’t seem to understand the concept but if they ask for an explanation they mostly say “Reeelly? How interesting”

412611 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Barbara Baker, 1, #260 of 2096 🔗

A vital role indeed – as today’s UK Column News included the thought that those who were the control group in the tiny short-lived amount of trialling there was will also shortly have The Vax in all likelihood and so there’ll no longer be any sort of control group at all!!!

411337 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Richy_m_99, 1, #261 of 2096 🔗

Informed decision

411403 ▶▶ LS99, replying to Richy_m_99, 5, #262 of 2096 🔗

Great point. The term anti-vaxx suggests that the vaccine is the thing and that one is defined against that. Surely it should be the other way around with natural immunity being the thing and therefore pro vaxxers being anti natural immunity.

It is really important how language is used because these two terms, pro natural immunity and anti-vaxxer, transmit something very different from each other to your unconscious mind. Not sure I’m that articulate today but you get the drift, I hope.

411448 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Richy_m_99, 13, #263 of 2096 🔗

you are just somebody who has resisted the brainwashing, the mind control. you are still free. let them put what stupid labels they like on you, who cares, they’re all stark raving mad, in any case. ‘anti-vaxxer’ can be translated as ‘heretic/apostate; blasphemer’ – I’m proud to number myself as one of those, I reject this entire cult, which I consider satanic at bottom

411086 DevonBlueBoy, replying to DevonBlueBoy, -52, #264 of 2096 🔗

I cannot see what the problem is with ‘vaccination passports’. When I first started travelling abroad in the 1970s, to Africa and Asia, you had to have with you vaccination certificates for such conditions as typhoid and yellow fever. These were inspected by the health authorities just before you went through immigration at your destination. If you don’t want to travel the you won’t need a certificate. We can’t influence the numpties in our Government so there will be no chance of doing so in foreign lands!

411091 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 40, #265 of 2096 🔗

Do you really think this will stop with just ‘permission to travel’?

411215 ▶▶▶ Stephanos, replying to Ceriain, 31, #266 of 2096 🔗

Definitely not. Its use will be extended to gradually and not so gradually to EVERYTHING. Restaurants, pubs, museums, libraries, corner shops, sports centres, driving, you name it. It is a not very thin end of an extremely thick wedge. Our freedoms have gone completely.

411098 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to DevonBlueBoy, -7, #267 of 2096 🔗

I’m more than happy to let the markets do the talking on this one.

411101 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 33, #268 of 2096 🔗

How about the fact that the so called vaccines are not vaccines; do not confer immunity; but merely (according to the developers of these products) reduce the severity of the symptoms (making it more likely that individuals who are ill will continue with everyday activities rather than take to their beds until they are well)?

411105 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 44, #269 of 2096 🔗

The difference was that vaccinations were limited to exotic destinations with deadly viruses not found on our shores for which we have no immunity. Not for what amounts to s common cold for the majority.

411133 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 38, #270 of 2096 🔗

This illness is not serious for most – indeed as we are aware most cases are in fact false positives caused by high PCR test cycle thresholds. They are not even asymptomatic. So once we take those out of the equation, we are left with a few who will be badly affected, just like with the flu every year.

We have never treated flu like this – I don’t know about you, but I’ve never take precautions against catching flu, let alone a vaccine (nor would I take a vaccine, they are filth – monkey viruses which have been genetically altered are not something I want anywhere near me, let alone the mRNA gene therapies).

The virus is the ploy for more control. The vaccine passports are a coercove measure to get more people to take the vaccine now. They know what they are doing – the Behavioural Insights Team knows that by creating such a feeling of hopelessness in the population they can get people to aquiesce to their plans more easily, and that once you’ve had one of these vaccines, you’ll be more likely to accept another.

The Overton window is being shifted by these measures. It’s not a public health measure, it’s a control measure.

411155 ▶▶ cubby, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 13, #271 of 2096 🔗

A couple of reasons for not accepting the vaccine; the deaths from vaccination are likely to be similar in number and frequency to deaths from the disease itself (see ‘flu) and the people who are mandating this are probably profiting from it (see Handcock and Vallance). Would these not be reason enough to object to vaccine passports? And we’re not talking about Africa, we’re talking about people wishing to see family members working in the community without borders to which we once belonged.

411165 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 17, #272 of 2096 🔗

As far as I am aware, for Yellow Fever there is one vaccination and this is internationally agreed as being needed for travel to certain countries and also it seems to be accepted that it lasts for a lifetime.
There are now a large range of SARS-Cov2 vaccines, all experimental and all dubious and there is no International agreement as to how long they last? nor which ones are acceptable. Indeed whilst yellow fever seems a fairly stable disease, SARS-Cov 2 is unstable and mutates and so international agreement on a vaccine protocol will be tricky to achieve.
These proposed vaccine passports are more likely to be required by travel companies, in which case it will depend on how keen they are for your business?

Another thing; I note that my Yellow Card has an exemptions sheet, all existing Yellow Card treatments have an agreed exemptions protocol. Before SARS-Cov2 can be officially added to the Yellow Card system there will need to be an agreed exemptions protocol.

My optimistic hope is that before all this official international agreement can be reached SARS-Cov2 will have duly disappeared.

411228 ▶▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #273 of 2096 🔗

Actually SARS-COV-2 is not very mutable – especially compared to something like flu. I don’t think we have seen anything that can be classed as mutations, only small changes in RNA from replication errors. The word “mutate” is deliberately overused as part of the propaganda.

411168 ▶▶ Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 7, #274 of 2096 🔗

Fuck off.

411182 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 4, #275 of 2096 🔗

Et tu, Brute?

411889 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Annie, #276 of 2096 🔗

Quousque tandem abutere patientia nostra, DBB?

411232 ▶▶ Apache, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 21, #277 of 2096 🔗

The typhoid and yellow fever vaccines were proven to be beneficial and safe. The covid vaccines haven’t finished safety testing. The disease is survivable for most healthy people so the unknown risks of vaccine outweigh the upside. If the vaccine passports were purely for travel your stance might be justified but just watch the mission creep and they being required to enter other areas.

411430 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 10, #278 of 2096 🔗

the difference is that typhoid and yellow fever are real diseases, and the vaccines are real vaccines, which went through normal development and safety protocols. I too have a yellow fever vaccination certificate [somewhere]

411532 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 5, #279 of 2096 🔗

I had my polio vaccinations in 1958 at Medical Centre, Rifle Range Road, Kuala Lumpur. I’ve still got the chit and all the subsequent ones for other serious diseases. There is no comparison with the current Great Insanity.

411534 ▶▶ Mutineer, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 3, #280 of 2096 🔗

You can’t even compare typhoid and yellow fever! This is seasonal flu ffs!

411567 ▶▶ Old Trout, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 5, #281 of 2096 🔗

How about the fact a person is risking serious injury or even death by taking an experimental treatment in order to travel abroad?

411677 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 7, #282 of 2096 🔗

A “vaccine” for an illness that 99.7% of the population survive and where the greater risk individuals are easily identified (the elderly,the obese and those with other illnesses). In addition, there has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus yet suddenly there is!

411963 ▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to Ewan Duffy, #283 of 2096 🔗

Its not even the obese, otherwise Japan, Taiwan, Belarus etc would be reporting far more deaths.
Its only the obese with other issues AND low Vit D

412161 ▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 1, #284 of 2096 🔗

On one level I don’t necessarily have a problem with vaccination certificates and I’ve said as much a few months back on this forum. What I have a problem with is the almost guaranteed mission creep that these digital “passports” will have.

412482 ▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to The Filthy Engineer, #285 of 2096 🔗

You’ve said this before? Wonder why nobody was listening?

412502 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to DevonBlueBoy, 1, #286 of 2096 🔗

I used to say “oh, sorry,must be in my suitcase” and they let me through.

411087 Basics, replying to Basics, 25, #287 of 2096 🔗

The NHS has 1.2 million employees. Roughly a third of them are overweight or obese. How seriously do the employees want to save the nhs and help the nation?

411127 ▶▶ PeeDubbya, replying to Basics, 5, #288 of 2096 🔗

It would appear there’s a few of them on sick leave at the moment:

411519 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to PeeDubbya, 2, #289 of 2096 🔗

I asked Whately months ago what proportion of the self isolators were obese. No response of course.

411170 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Basics, 8, #290 of 2096 🔗

I’d say rather more than a third of them are overweight – judging by those gruesome little TikTok videos of them dancing. The vast majority of them are overweight – going by those. What a load of little porkies in the main…

411853 ▶▶▶ fiery, replying to ElizaP, 2, #291 of 2096 🔗

Absolutely – when I worked for the NHS there’s was certainly more than a third who were morbidly obese.

411222 ▶▶ muzzle, replying to Basics, 9, #292 of 2096 🔗

I’ve been to the hospital and all the nurses are fat. Surely that would be like going to a tailors for a nice suit but all the staff are in scruffy jeans.

411516 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Basics, 4, #293 of 2096 🔗

You can draw your own conclusions from Sir Tom’s fund being spent on biscuits and chill-axing spaces.

411558 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Basics, 2, #294 of 2096 🔗

Not helped by the free food they’ve been getting from the likes of Domino’s Pizzas.

411566 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 3, #295 of 2096 🔗

haha yes ‘protect the NHS’…eat at Dominos every day!

411093 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 6, #296 of 2096 🔗

latest PHE all cause mortality

1st peak = NHS launching biowarfare against care homes + lockdown

2nd peak = NHS biowarfare + lockdown + vaccine on hyper-frail (banned in some countries)

411283 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to steve_w, #297 of 2096 🔗

Which countries have banned it?

411096 HelzBelz, replying to HelzBelz, 18, #299 of 2096 🔗

The only hope now for those of us that don’t want to take the experimental ‘vaccine’ is for the vaccinated to start dying in large numbers.

Whether the deaths were attributed to COVID or the jab, it wouldn’t look good for the vaccine.

411103 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to HelzBelz, 2, #300 of 2096 🔗


411150 ▶▶ Janette, replying to HelzBelz, 3, #301 of 2096 🔗

Yes I agree

411188 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to HelzBelz, 8, #302 of 2096 🔗

I tend to agree. I think we probably are waiting for Critical Mass to be reached – ie for so many of the vaxxed to have been killed/injured/personality altered by the Vax that TPTB can’t hide the fact any longer and everyone has to admit it. At that point I feel the tide will turn and we will start getting our freedom/normal Lives back. The only ones I will feel sorry for out of them are those that got blackmailed into The Vax (eg by an employer threatening to unfairly dismiss them if they didn’t have it). I won’t even feel sorry for those that gave way to family pressure from the more selfish/stupid of their family members – as they could have “been Strong” and held out against them and so even they are complicit with the way the rest of us are being made to suffer.

411415 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to HelzBelz, 4, #303 of 2096 🔗

but if I’m right, (and my only hope is that I’m completely batshit crazy) the ‘vaccinated’ (ie, lethally injected) will die is such huge numbers that those of us diehards who are left will be in an extremely vulnerable position – there will be nothing stopping them then from just hunting us down and shooting us.
I do hope I’m wrong, but I’m afraid I really think this is the level of evil we are up against.

412619 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to JaneHarry, #304 of 2096 🔗

My mind runs more along the lines of “If a lot of the vaxxed are dead or ill – then Society will still need a noticeable number of people to run it/keep the pumps manned so to say and maybe they’ll be trying to tempt us back into work with bribes (would have to be a VERY big one in my case – as I’m retired).

411097 TheBigman, 26, #305 of 2096 🔗


I have come to the opinion that anyone who gets one of the DNA altering vaccines willingly is a proponent of the lockdowns and a sheep to what has been done to them in the form of lockdowns and devastation.
Even more disgusting are the supine that will take the experimental concoction just to get a gold star passport so they can go to Spain for a week to then spend 10 days in a concentration camp at their own expense.

Are we really a nation so badly in need of excitement that we have become uncritical idiotic dunces in the face of a virtue signalling psychological operation (see SAGE’s ’emotional messaging’) aimed at stripping us of the liberties that were fought for over centuries. Are we that generation that are so willing to accept Blairite globalism that’s purpose is to lead to the One World Government (see Brown’s many calls for it).

411100 TheBigman, -1, #306 of 2096 🔗

Make no mistake we live in a lefty world.

They aren’t called the loony left for no reason.

Where is the ‘Right’ lockdown sceptics site???

I hope everyone enjoys the trip to the gulag.

411107 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 5, #307 of 2096 🔗

This knobhead is changing her tune…..

The Scotsman: Coronavirus in the UK: Prof Devi Sridhar says ‘very open debate’ is needed over easing of lockdown restrictions.

411129 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to Tom Blackburn, 6, #308 of 2096 🔗

My instinct tells me that this is to allow the pushing of the zero covid agenda because it is currently not considered a realistic option within government.

411139 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Nobody2021, 5, #309 of 2096 🔗

she wants hard borders between countries and then borders within countries – between zones of different levels of infection – it is zero covid stuff

411264 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to steve_w, 4, #310 of 2096 🔗

Its ironic that often those who favoured no borders now want hard borders!

411290 ▶▶▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Boris Bullshit, 10, #311 of 2096 🔗

its natural for extremists to shift from one extreme position to another – the only thing that stays constant is that they are extremists

411570 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to steve_w, 1, #312 of 2096 🔗

good point!

411803 ▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Boris Bullshit, #313 of 2096 🔗

It is… especially the ones whose rightful place is the other side of that border.

411181 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Tom Blackburn, 12, #314 of 2096 🔗

Open debate.
I say something paralysingly stupid.
You beg to differ.
I suppress you.
Zombies shriek aproval of me.
End of debate.

411398 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Tom Blackburn, 7, #315 of 2096 🔗

who the fuck is Devi Sridhar and why should anyone take a blind bit of notice of anything she says?

411700 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #316 of 2096 🔗

Being a pal of Chelsea Clinton means you are somebody /sarc

412528 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #317 of 2096 🔗

She’s shouty and on message. That’s why I am ignoring her anyway.

411108 Lowe, replying to Lowe, 2, #318 of 2096 🔗

See the illustration used in a Guardian article yesterday: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/11/matt-hancock-lays-out-his-plan-for-wholesale-reorganisation-of-nhs
Is that a scene from a film version of 1984?

412180 ▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Lowe, #319 of 2096 🔗

I was thinking of the omnipresent screens of Dr Breen from the game “Halflife 2”

411109 AN other lockdown sceptic, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 39, #320 of 2096 🔗

Morning fellow amazing Lockdown Sceptics.

Well doesn’t this shitshow keep on giving eh!?

We must not let the buggers grind us down. The world has gone collectively insane in the past but has always come to its senses at some point.

Keep fighting the good fight in whatever way you can. We are the resistance.

Onward and upwards.

411177 ▶▶ Annie, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 8, #321 of 2096 🔗

Yesyesyes. We are adamant. We can’t be ground down..

412537 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to AN other lockdown sceptic, 1, #322 of 2096 🔗

Summer 2020 is starting to look like a golden idyll compared to Summer 2021. But yes that only hardens my resolve.

411110 Margaret, replying to Margaret, 25, #323 of 2096 🔗

I listened to most of the Hitchens-Hodges debate yesterday.

Hitchens kept on pushing the point-yes this has been a nasty virus, but we need to keep our response to it in proportion to the dangers involved.

It has not been the killer which it was predicted to be, nor has it affected 99.5% of
us, apart from destroying livelihoods, our children’s education and our mental health, that is.

In proportion is the key phrase and has been my viewpoint from the very beginning.

411167 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Margaret, 13, #324 of 2096 🔗

It’s not the virus that has destroyed livelihoods, our children’s education and our mental health, it’s the government!

411200 ▶▶▶ Margaret, replying to smithey, 5, #325 of 2096 🔗

You are absolutely correct Smithy. I should have made my point, about the percentage of us affected, a little clearer. We have not been affected by the virus but the out-of-all-proportion response to it.

411112 John David, replying to John David, 27, #326 of 2096 🔗

Why is it that SAGE (which role is to only advised the government) allows it members to appear on the main stream media to announce their latest speculation and general scaremongering day in and day out. Surely all this should have to be vetted by No 10 to ensure some form of coherent strategy. When is our spineless prime minister going to take some form of control of this mess. I am actually surprised that the narcissistic control freak Matt (I am the Minister of Health) Hancock has not had words. But then chaos and disordered aids this government’s continued usurping of our now non-existent parliamentary democracy. To all intents and purposes we’ve now had a bloodless coup in this country and not many people seem to have noticed.

411120 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to John David, 8, #327 of 2096 🔗

Any and all information that is made public we can probably assume to be sanctioned. Even so called leaks are now so common it’s clear that somebody left the tap running.

411605 ▶▶▶ Sceptical Steve, replying to Nobody2021, 4, #328 of 2096 🔗

I’m increasingly of the opinion that the German reports of collusion between the German Interior Ministry and their scientific community, specifically to encourage the scientists to provide evidence to justify further restrictive measures mirror the relationship between the UK government and SAGE.( https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article225864597/Interner-E-Mail-Verkehr-Innenministerium-spannte-Wissenschaftler-ein.html ) It seems to only credible explanation for the way that the UKG tolerates the apparently spontaneous interventions from SAGE members, always warning of new dangers and recommending more restrictions on our freedoms.

411746 ▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Sceptical Steve, 2, #329 of 2096 🔗

About time some of these cunts were offed

411124 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to John David, 2, #330 of 2096 🔗

Certain SAGE members are long overdue the nudge. I assume it has natural wastage, ins/outs. When will it get a shake-up?

411134 ▶▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to Tom Blackburn, 14, #331 of 2096 🔗

It needs to be stood down. It exists to advise in times of emergency.
An endemic virus is not an emergency.

411138 ▶▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Charlie Blue, 15, #332 of 2096 🔗

it should have been stood down when it declared the effects of lockdown were not part of its remit

411140 ▶▶▶▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to steve_w, 1, #333 of 2096 🔗

Spot on, steve.

412037 ▶▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to steve_w, #334 of 2096 🔗

Hear, hear !

411143 ▶▶▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Charlie Blue, 1, #335 of 2096 🔗


412539 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #336 of 2096 🔗

I rather they got a hang-up.

411171 ▶▶ DeepBlueYonder, replying to John David, 1, #337 of 2096 🔗

I often wonder about this. They always carefully precede their appearances with words “speaking in a personal capacity” (even when they are introduced as being a member of SAGE, or whatever).

411212 ▶▶ jb12, replying to John David, 3, #338 of 2096 🔗

Because they do what they are told by the government. If they were to do the opposite, they would be removed.

411375 ▶▶ mikewaite, replying to John David, 3, #339 of 2096 🔗

It is interesting that Whitty addressed the problem of how science based data should interact with Govt policy on medical issues in a paper published 5 years ago:

What makes an academic paper useful for health policy? Abstract Evidence-based policy ensures that the best interventions are effectively implemented. Integrating rigorous, relevant science into policy is therefore essential. Barriers include the evidence not being there; lack of demand by policymakers; academics not producing rigorous, relevant papers within the timeframe of the policy cycle.
This piece addresses the last problem. Academics underestimate the speed of the policy process, and publish excellent papers after a policy decision rather than good ones before it. To be useful in policy, papers must be at least as rigorous about reporting their methods as for other academic uses. Papers which are as simple as possible (but no simpler) are most likely to be taken up in policy.
Most policy questions have many scientific questions, from different disciplines, within them. The accurate synthesis of existing information is the most important single offering by academics to the policy process. Since policymakers are making economic decisions, economic analysis is central, as are the qualitative social sciences. Models should, wherever possible, allow policymakers to vary assumptions. Objective, rigorous, original studies from multiple disciplines relevant to a policy question need to be synthesized before being incorporated into policy.

I have highlighted what I thought were important points in this message , and points which he seems now to have forgotten that he once made
The article btw is open access.

411114 Sceptic in SA, replying to Sceptic in SA, 9, #340 of 2096 🔗

Morning all from Cape Town.

I am on this Arsebook page with about 10 other people, which is mainly about golf. I posted a month or so back about an argument I had with JC who is about 35 (20 years younger than me) and a know-it-all keyboard warrior. Most if not all of them are what I would call typical – not exactly zealots but they pretty much believe everything they read.

I will share some posts from yesterday which make me wonder what goes on in their heads. The characters in this short story are below. Without wanting to sound rude, none of them are that bright. :

KS – about 65-70 yrs old, ex copper. A bit of a bigot, for instance believes that women shouldn’t be members of his golf course
TA – N Irish, about 60, works in health service
DF – about 50. Usually quite objective although not exactly a deep thinker
MP – about 45, scouser, the most sceptical but again not exactly a genius.

KS joined in with JC last time with “nutter” jibs at me when I raised the point that this is a scam-demic.

Here is the conversation, which as I said is quite depressing. They seem to be celebrating the fact that they are having the jab, and that immunity passports are on the way. Crazy.

Yes.! Getting my first jab on Saturday.
· Reply · 13h
KS I’m booked for the second one on 13th March.
· Reply · 11h
TA that’s great mate. Hopefully get my second in May.
· Reply · 11h
Write a reply…
TA and KS: The government have this target of getting everyone – the vulnerable/underlying – done by April/early May.
Is it wrong that we should target that date, or do we just carry on with lockdown after lockdown?
This isn’t going away because I’ve said before it’ll be like the flu jab.
However, we all need something to look forward to.
· Reply · 9h
Viruses mutate, it’s what they do. I think we will have to have a yearly jab, possibly one day it will be combined with the flu jab. I also think that you will need to prove you are vaccinated and up to date before being allowed into a lot of countries.
· Reply · 9h
KS I bet bill gates can’t wait to tune into your daily activities https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f609.svg
· Reply · 8h
KS I know of a guy who travelled to Dublin last week for a flight home to India. Got to the check in desk and was refused travel as he didn’t have a current PCR test certificate. In reality he was being asked for a travel passport so only a matter of time before that becomes a vaccine certificate.
· Reply · 8h

Although this sounds cruel, part of me hopes that he has his jab and then develops an instant and fairly serious adverse reaction. Only because it will demonstrate to him and the rest of them what I have been trying to tell them

In other news, my sister (55, diabetic, overweight) told me that her and her hubby (65, asthmatic) are having the jab. I sent her various articles and videos to try and dissuade her, but she won’t change her mind. I’m genuinely worried that she will get some sort of bad reaction and told her as much

411614 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Sceptic in SA, 1, #341 of 2096 🔗

Sorry 😉 I hope you find this funny, the views expressed are not that of the author…much

411115 Tim Bidie, replying to Tim Bidie, 11, #342 of 2096 🔗

This is the scandal; the indictment of NHS England and this government:

Only England, out of all of the 27 European countries listed (including Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland) has overall all cause deaths, amongst age group 15-44 years, above the ‘substantial increase’ dotted redline.

And England is the only country of the 27 where that above ‘substantial increase’ mortality for 15-44 years age group occurs both in April/May 2020 and Dec/Jan 2021.


This tells us that government interventions specific to England are directly responsible for at least a major part of the increases in all cause mortality for those periods; nothing to do with SARS CoV 2 (because atypical whereas SARS CoV 2 common to all).

Of course, if those specific government interventions caused a substantial increase in deaths within the 15-44 years age group, it takes little imagination to work out what effect those interventions would have had on the older age groups.

Nowhere to hide………

411706 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Tim Bidie, 4, #343 of 2096 🔗

This. 100%.

And if you listen to Hodges on Talk Radio, he sees the English numbers as ras evidence that sceptics were wrong. Talk about cherry picki

411135 Basics, replying to Basics, 3, #344 of 2096 🔗

Cold, frosty morning? Bring cheer and warmth to your heart with this thread of comments after China boot BBC comment!


Yes twitter bad as facebook as instagram as…etc, but go on see the public stick it to the man.

411225 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Basics, 14, #345 of 2096 🔗

I needed a laugh

411671 ▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to this is my username, 1, #346 of 2096 🔗

Their “from our correspondents” on R4 yesterday was one of the worst programs I ever heard.

411708 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to this is my username, 2, #347 of 2096 🔗

Defund the BBC

412542 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to this is my username, #348 of 2096 🔗


411148 steve_w, 12, #349 of 2096 🔗

“UK economy suffered record annual slump in 2020”

How to destroy a country because you don’t understand data

411149 Tim Bidie, replying to Tim Bidie, 21, #350 of 2096 🔗

This whole global hypochondriacal silliness is so over:

Corticosteroid Budesonide via an inhaler:

‘They hypothesised that the use of steroid inhalers, which suppress immune response in the lungs, could have a beneficial effect on COVID-19 patients who often suffered lung damage due to overactive immune response to the disease.’

‘Professor Nicolau said they realised in the early stages of the pandemic that people with asthma were under-represented in severe and fatal cases of COVID-19.’

‘A preprint version of the trial’s findings is being considered by medical journal The Lancet , which published the team’s hypothesis before the start of the trial last year.’

‘“When we first began the trial back in March [2020], we were hoping for 50 per cent reduction [in risk of developing serious symptoms], which itself would have been very high,” he said.

“We got 90 per cent, which even with only a few hundred people is off the charts.
“And it’s not just the overall result – their temperatures are less, they get less fever, and they recover faster.”

The trial wrapped up recently, with the strong early results independently assessed to be sufficient with no need to continue.

Professor Nicolau said there were also ethical considerations to continuing the trial while getting such positive results.

“There were 10 times as many people going into the normal arm of the hospital rather than our treatment arm,” he said.

“It reaches a point where it’s no longer ethical, so we stopped [the trial] about two-thirds of the way through.”

The randomised trial ended up looking at 146 patients, who were given regular doses of either corticosteroid budesonide via an inhaler, or a placebo.

Professor Nicolau said the implications for the treatment were enormous, especially for parts of the world which would not have access to any vaccine for some time.

‘“We’ve never had a good treatment for the common cold, it does make people sick, especially older people, and perhaps this could be it,” Professor Nicolau said.

“These pandemics are now coming every five years or so, and this treatment should work for the next one, because hyper-inflammation is not particular to COVID, it happens with all respiratory infections.”


Remind me: how much money did we spend on vaccines?

411695 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Tim Bidie, 2, #351 of 2096 🔗

Yep. Hence the massive propaganda mission now in motion to push the vaccines.

411844 ▶▶ kate, replying to Tim Bidie, 3, #352 of 2096 🔗

I’m an asthma sufferer and as such have a ventolin and budesonide inhaler. I have always used my budesonide inhaler whenever I have had a bad respiratory infection to cut down on the inflammation in my lungs. I am surprised this is a “discovery”.

411951 ▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to kate, #353 of 2096 🔗

‘I am surprised this is a “discovery”

The leitmotif of this shambles.

Who knew, for example, that Britain’s healthcare system was so much worse in terms of health outcomes than those of most of its neighbours?

Errrr……everyone. What has been done……..nothing

Same with your asthma treatment………

411153 Will, replying to Will, 8, #354 of 2096 🔗

Many might think me heartless but I can’t help a bit of of a “Go on the Kent strain” in relation to Australia. If the virus gets in and does it’s thing in Australia it might make people see the utter futility of trying to “stop” a virus.

411173 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Will, 7, #355 of 2096 🔗

When you realise Covid is not the real enemy, and that the enemy claims to be opposed to Covid, it does become tempting to cheer on the Covid. Poor Rona, she’s not even relevant, you know.

411510 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Will, 4, #356 of 2096 🔗

I think we can be pretty confident they will have their hands full come their winter.

411159 Professor, 13, #357 of 2096 🔗

The article posted today on “Imperial College Modelling Falsely Assumes No Seasonality to COVID-19” is perfectly correct and the same logic can also be applied to all the other modelling studies (such as those from Warwick) that similarly predict huge numbers of cases in the height of Summer. The models also seem to ignore, or grossly underestimate, pre-existing immunity. Unfortunately, none of these concerns are new and yet the predictions produced continue to scare the politicians. “Computer says no” is apparently argument enough for them.

411161 Will, replying to Will, 2, #358 of 2096 🔗

Can someone help, please. I am trying to find the number of under50s in the UK who have been registered as having died with covid. All I can find is graphs and I could really do with the actual number preferably with and without comorbidities.

411494 ▶▶ DomW, replying to Will, 2, #359 of 2096 🔗

The only figures I have to hand are the ONS total “deaths with covid on the death certificate” numbers for England and Wales, You can add on around 10% for Scotland and Wales to get approximate UK total.

For ages 0-49 up until 29/1/21 the total (England = Wales) was 2,253

411162 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 5, #360 of 2096 🔗

In response to the excellent but anguished poem today in the Poetry Corner. This is my unashamedly Christian response. In the face of such a lack of hope, I wanted to share my hope.

My Hope

I mirror your thoughts,
I know what you mean,
Life in this nightmare,
Is not just a bad dream.

I too often wish,
I could bury my head,
But I have to face up,
To the whole truth instead.

I hear what you say,
It’s hard to have hope
But I do have an answer,
Which helps me to cope.

All we see’s been accounted,
In the Bible I read,
God knew this was coming,
His warning I heed.

If you reach out to Jesus,
Then new hope will arise,
His Word has the answers,
This was all prophesied.

There’s not an event we see today that doesn’t make sense if you line it up with The Bible. The stage is being set for a one world government and a mark on the hand or forehead allowing people to buy and sell. If we trust in Christ though we have the promise that he will keep us from this coming time of trial which will come upon this world. This is a good time to ask the big questions in life. I pray each of you considers whether Jesus was who he said he was. As CS Lewis said about Jesus Christ,

“A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic—on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg—or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”
C S Lewis, Mere Christianity, 1960.

411202 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Liberty, 1, #361 of 2096 🔗


411164 Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 33, #362 of 2096 🔗

I will commit suicide before I have a vaccine passport. Fuck off. Just fuck off.

411174 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 21, #363 of 2096 🔗

The pressure they are putting on people is appalling – this is such a coercive move. Please don’t think about doing anything drastic as a response. Hold on!

411191 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to this is my username, 14, #364 of 2096 🔗

they’ve never made a coronavirus vaccine before and now they have a handful in 8 months – partially tested

mRNA vaccines have been tried for years but have never really been licensed due to side-effects and efficacy

I predicted ages ago hat they would start being abandoned by about March. Let’s see – we already have countries not doing over 65s (the only people at risk of covid). We have side effects in younger people that are horrific – what’s that going to do to a frail 90 year old?

What will happen will happen but they can’t hide it. No way the laggard countries are going to go ahead if it looks bad – they have no interest in saving face for someone else and spending money doing it.

411210 ▶▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to steve_w, 9, #365 of 2096 🔗

This is worth looking at https://web.archive.org/web/20210207100203/https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1358290308757409794

Israel has seen a surge in deaths, just like the UK, since the vaccine was brought in. I hope you’re right that they will be abandoned, what governments are doing is immoral.

411255 ▶▶▶▶▶ Norman, replying to this is my username, 2, #366 of 2096 🔗

From Worldometer:
February 12 (GMT) Updates

February 11

February 10

February 9

February 8

411983 ▶▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to this is my username, #367 of 2096 🔗

Israel is perhaps the most vaccinated country of them all.

411235 ▶▶▶▶ Basics, replying to steve_w, 17, #368 of 2096 🔗

I wrote last night about Elwoods statement he now fully supports vaccine passports. You may remember a few mobths ago he made an implying statement in favour of Vpasses then put out a following statement to say pretty much her was a weasel and did not say no such thing.

I pointed out the times those sceptics like myself who have, from the very beginning, being raising the alarm about the pattern of developments and where they lead. It is tiresome to have incompetence theorists pooh-pooh any notion of planned global control when the evidence is all around us. I am patient with those who are seeing only UK Government involvement and a political haplessness which just so happens to be causing death and misery unchecked.

This crime is so big, so broad that I can understand why people are not prepared to see the trajectory we have been set on. But my god is this tedious to watch.

Evil exists, it lives in the minds of the fuckers who come onto screens and preach fear at you. It lives in the minds of those unseen making calculatiins to cause anxiety and fear. The purpose they have in mind is evil.

Just the most simple of facts – masks – is enough to tell you this is seriiusly sinister. Put yourself in the eyes of a child then the mind of the people who dreamed up and imposed the mask on all of humanity. Is that not evil incarnate?

I respect other views entirely- exception being the trolls. So please respect my opinion and contemplate once again looking beyond Westminster for the source.

412554 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to steve_w, #369 of 2096 🔗

I will holiday in any country that does not insist on a CovviPass. £££ waiting.

411203 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to this is my username, 14, #370 of 2096 🔗

I’m afraid this was completely predictable – by those of us who were paying attention: first: the ‘soft’ coercion: you will not be able to participate meaningfully in society without a vaccination: this will be enough to capture a large proportion of the ”vaccine hesitant’ and when only the real diehards are left, comes the ‘hard’ coercion – the gulag? the bullet to the head? forced vaccination under anaesthesia? – I don’t really see any ‘way out’ to this: it’s die standing, or die on your knees, that is the choice

412214 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to JaneHarry, #371 of 2096 🔗

‘Real diehards’ have families, friends, neighbours, work colleagues. It won’t be at all easy for the bad guys.

412208 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, #372 of 2096 🔗

At least take one or two of them with you !

411172 Henry2, replying to Henry2, 27, #373 of 2096 🔗

Who is this prat Hodges? We had a bad winter, somewhere between a bad flu season and an unvaccinated flu season. This was predicted as an unsavoury outcome by Witty and Vallance back in March 2020 if we suppressed the virus with perpetual lockdown and failed to build immunity. Lockdown scepticism was bang on the money illustrating this from April, that the virus was seasonal and no matter how many banal, overweight nurses said ‘just wait two weeks for the 2nd wave’ after every human indulgence – from BLM marches.to sitting at the beach. IT WAS FORECAST to happen during every peak respiratory disease season or more specifically winter. You can’t call a FORECASTED (by your science committee) bad winter a 2nd wave. We can all predict when the next peak in covid cases will be.

Lockdown scepticism, with numerous.examples has clearly shown that the only thing that works is immunity. You can be optimistic about a vaccine if you want, but there was no way it would have an effect being deployed when it did, and may even have worsened the problem (another debate). But if you have a run in to winter with literally no other levers to pull because regions and the country is already in lockdown, failed to be build any immunity barrier, it’s on the onus of the lockdown zealots to be ACCOUNTABLE for elevated covid mortality by denigrating basic epidemiological science chasing the unicorn of the silver bullet vaccine. I despair at this tired argument. And that’s before you take ACCOUNTABILITY of the cluster fuck of collateral damage now and forever going forward. Dan Hodges et al. should be reminded, that lockdown sceptics aren’t pulling the levers or have had influence since the BEGINNING.

LOCKDOWN is the biggest public health disaster ever, and the vaccine could be a close 2nd.

411179 ▶▶ Will, replying to Henry2, 3, #374 of 2096 🔗

My thoughts exactly Henry2.

411204 ▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to Henry2, 3, #375 of 2096 🔗

Hodges is the Chief Air Raid (ARP) Warden and greengrocer.

411351 ▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Henry2, 2, #376 of 2096 🔗

Who is he? Son of Glenda Jackson. Yesterday’s man. Former Blair-arse-licker; soft-lefty opponent of Livingstone, K and Millipede,E (so not entirely bad) and a mate of the vaccines minister.

411575 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to TheOriginalBlackPudding, #377 of 2096 🔗

What a great guy!

411940 ▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Boris Bullshit, #378 of 2096 🔗

You forgot the /sarc at the end!

411175 Anti_socialist, 15, #379 of 2096 🔗

Another government u-turn.

No its just another government lie exposed.

411176 TJN, replying to TJN, 8, #380 of 2096 🔗

Let’s start flushing some of these vaccine passport/compulsion MPs out. Last summer I wrote to my own MP, Geoffrey Cox, asking if he was in favour of compulsory vaccination, and he replied that he was not.

Why can’t all Sceptics do this with their own MPs? Then get a database together so we know where we are with these bastards.

A question for Will and Toby especially: will this site organise and host such a database?

411189 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to TJN, 6, #381 of 2096 🔗

I respectfully suggest that we would be none the wiser. Most of them are untruthful and even those that are will still vote with the Govt when it came to the crunch.

411199 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Charlie Blue, 2, #382 of 2096 🔗

I think it’s worth doing – would help hold some of them to account and give a bullet to fire at any who turned out to have lied subsequently.

411213 ▶▶▶ Still Got It, replying to Charlie Blue, 7, #383 of 2096 🔗

I’m afraid I agree. My MP categorically said would not support another lockdown (after number one). She did, of course. When I wrote back, copying her own response back to her I got the usual tripe about situation changing, deadly virus, blah fucking blah.

My experience of all of this is that writing to MP’s is a absolute waste of time and is there purely to give us something to do.

411292 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to TJN, 5, #384 of 2096 🔗

Why can’t all Sceptics do this with their own MPs?

What’s the point in wasting time, when your MP is called Ian Blackford?

411656 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #385 of 2096 🔗

God help you. My old Great-Grandma used to say “There’s always somebody worse off than you.” Well…….although I think Andrea’s MP is RLB, so possibly a dead heat at the bottom of the pile there.

412556 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #386 of 2096 🔗

Save the stamp for his head.

411324 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to TJN, 3, #387 of 2096 🔗

At the next election people will need to stand together and vote for the new parties. Never vote conservative or labour (failed to oppose anything and therefore collaborated) again.

412908 ▶▶▶ primesinister, replying to Victoria, #388 of 2096 🔗

The current sysem /politics/parties = corruption,.
Politics and parties is their invention their game, we need our own game.

412899 ▶▶ primesinister, replying to TJN, #389 of 2096 🔗

Fuck all the lying bastard mps Irefuse to engage with them anymore.

411178 Freddy Boy, 22, #390 of 2096 🔗

Morning folks , Well there you have it , the Vaccine passport ( micro chip is on its way ) that’s what all this is about ! You can see from all the cover up info of real science , logic, common sense , Hope etc that the powers that be are absolutely determined to see this thing through to the bitter end , no matter what the human / economic cost is , I’ve said it before “ This is a War “ Period !!..

411180 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 12, #391 of 2096 🔗
411319 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Basileus, 2, #392 of 2096 🔗

Indeed this has been planned for decades by big money man Gates and his associates. Now gates is the biggest owner of farmland in the US that will focus on GM foods and developing more highly processed and unnatural products like the impossible burger

411185 Bill Hickling, 4, #393 of 2096 🔗

Well what a surprise that Imperial College has other bogus assumptions in their modelling and that they would be politically-motivated!

411187 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 10, #394 of 2096 🔗

Lose Weight, Stay Healthy, Protect the NHS

Haven’t we got this ass about face, when is the NHS going to meet its obligation of protecting us so we can live our lives?

411310 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Anti_socialist, 7, #395 of 2096 🔗

The government/nhs have failed us for decades with their incorrect advice on how to eat – sponsored by big food and confectionary companies. The eatwell guide/plate that is heavy carbohydrate makes people fat. It is not healthy and leads to lots of other diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, cancers etc

I cannot see that they will provide a proper nutritious approach to food

411480 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Victoria, 5, #396 of 2096 🔗

We have biologically evolved, to eat meat, scavenge predator kills, suck out bone marrow, forage for seasonal berries, the occasional flower, some succulent spring greens (leaves) collect eggs, browse for insects, catch the odd rodent or fish & slowly progressed to hunt larger prey, the richest source of many essential vitamins is animal organs.

Grass seed is a relatively new addition to our diet, its not a biologically appropriate diet. There’s barely any nutritional benefit in the likes of wheat & rice. Note cereals often labelled fortified (artificial) vitamins.

Our teeth & jaw muscles became smaller, i’d speculate because we invented tools & fire. Not entirely sure when humans started cooking meat but it obviously aids consumption of tough foods & release nutrients from some sources. Like everything neo-liberal corporate globalism goes against nature. The best way to promote good health is a good biologically appropriate diet, that’s not exotic grains, fruits & vegetables from the other side of the planet.

We are paying the price of our dismissal of natural process, ecological capacity.

412060 ▶▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to Anti_socialist, #397 of 2096 🔗

How many times are we going to have to shoot the overweight zombie.
NHS stats show:
1) People classed as Overweight have a greater life expectancy.
2) People classed as overweight have more chance of surviving surgery or an encounter with OURNHS.

Being overweight i s healthier than being of ” normal” weight.
(Normal being a noodle armed NHS desk jockey)

It’s almost as if humans like many other animals lay down fat reserves to carry them trough the lean times of no food or illness,but nah – that can’t be true.

411193 Freddy Boy, 8, #398 of 2096 🔗

Every day they are cranking up reasons to keep this Shit show on the road !! .. Dropping little Shitty Hints about can’t let our guard down etc , the latest one making out that virus’s are not seasonal so they can Fuck summer off , what is there left to do !! Are we going to sit here while they destroy us , if an army was coming we would know what the threat was but this is worse just as real and it’s happening under our stupid dumb noses !!

411194 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 13, #399 of 2096 🔗

“We know that fit is important for masks to be effective”

Stopped reading right there, everyday this site capitulates more & more to appease covidian mob.

411299 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #400 of 2096 🔗


Can’t wait for the massive increase in dementia, cancer and other illnesses that thrive in low oxygen environments. In addition young people that will never realise their potential as low oxygen affects brain development.

411431 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Anti_socialist, 4, #401 of 2096 🔗


!5 sets of randomized, controlled trials show muzzles provide no detectable benefit,

It’s pure superstition.

411195 Bart Simpson, replying to Bart Simpson, 36, #402 of 2096 🔗

The headline above does not surprise me. The government has consistently lied to us since March 2020 so this is another one of their long string of lies.

Anyone who still believes this is about a virus and that the government is their best friend and has their best interests at heart needs to have a long honest conversation with themselves.

411197 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Bart Simpson, 7, #403 of 2096 🔗

Bart telling it like it is again – keep at it…

411217 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to ElizaP, 3, #404 of 2096 🔗


411198 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Bart Simpson, 4, #405 of 2096 🔗

Anyone who still believes this is about a virus and that the government is their best friend and has their best interests at heart needs to have a long honest conversation with themselves.” Well there are some, like me, who simultaneously believe that it is at least in part “about a virus” but think the government is dishonest and evil.

411220 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Julian, 8, #406 of 2096 🔗

Agree. But I know a lot of people who are both and they don’t care about the collateral damage – the job losses, the bankruptcies, suicides, untreated illnesses, mental health, etc

And they have the nerve to call us “selfish”

411249 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #407 of 2096 🔗

Yes they have no right to the moral high ground. We are not “all in this together”

The ones that make me maddest are people who think it’s bollocks but defend the PM and say he had no choice and blame Labour and the media

411284 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Julian, 6, #408 of 2096 🔗

Exactly. That’s another reason why I’ve pulled back out of Arsebook as I’m fed up with seeing all the virtue signalling and endless posts about how “we’re all in this together.”

The odd thing is many of the lockdownistas I know have a pathological hatred of Johnson and the Tories and yet now are the biggest cheerleaders of this shit show.

411578 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #409 of 2096 🔗

I know such people myself…its laughable.

411196 Julian, replying to Julian, 3, #410 of 2096 🔗

The Australian Open tennis was up to now allowing 30,000 fans per day to enter across all the courts. I don’t know what the daily capacity is but I think 30,000 is half or less of the normal total

Surprisingly they didn’t sell all of the tickets (I think they sold about half of that number) – presumably because people are still worried about being in crowds.

Would you go to a crowded sports event at full capacity tomorrow if you could?

Do you think sports events here would sell out?

(From what I could see, the crowds in Aus were nappy-free and I doubt they had to have a vaccine as lots of them looked young, though a negative test MAY have been required, not sure)

411206 ▶▶ Scouse Sceptic, replying to Julian, 15, #411 of 2096 🔗

I’d go to ANY event at full capacity right now!

412178 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Scouse Sceptic, 1, #412 of 2096 🔗

Even to watch the Toffees … ?

412563 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to JohnB, 1, #413 of 2096 🔗

Steady now

411278 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Julian, 4, #414 of 2096 🔗

They allowed 30000 at the Cricket in a 90k capacity stadium. I expect it is all the extra spurious safety crap around attending that puts people off, rather than the virus. Australia was bad before this on zealous safety measures.

I would go back to Forest without hesitation but if I was harassed by jobsworths, or stupid rules like muzzles imposed, I wouldn’t bother with it until sanity returns.

411205 Julian, 15, #415 of 2096 🔗

If anyone chirps at you about zero covid and Australia, point them to this news:


“Victoria to enter lockdown with fans barred from Australian Open (tennis) The Australian state of Victoria will enter lockdown for a third time in a bid to suppress an outbreak of the UK strain of coronavirus.
Officials this week found 13 cases stemming from a quarantine worker who became infected at a Melbourne hotel.
The lockdown will begin on Friday midnight and end on Wednesday.
However, the government has said the Australian Open tennis tournament would continue in the state’s capital, Melbourne.
Spectators will be banned from attending the event from Saturday, which had previously allowed up to 30,000 visitors a day. Tickets will be refunded, tournament director Craig Tiley said.”

The tournament has only just started. Note that the “cases” came from a “quarantine worker” from a hotel and note the low number of “cases” that triggered this. It shows very clearly that zero covid cannot possibly work even on an isolated island where the virus isn’t circulating much, and that “quarantine hotels” won’t work. Zero covid just means lockdowns forever, at short notice.

411207 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 15, #416 of 2096 🔗

Historically, public respect for and trust in doctors has exceeded that awarded to politicians. The unquestioning capitulation of medicine to an authoritarian executive and predatory corporate power may have undermined the doctor-patient relationship for a generation.

At least someone gets it! Not sure doctors ever deserved the trust & respect they once had. Statistically medication is the worlds third biggest killer. And frankly the way they’ve abandoned any principle or integrity ‘DO NO HARM’ during covid earns them a seat in the dock of Nuremberg 2022.

411219 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #417 of 2096 🔗

I highly recommend this video to everyone here:


It’s called Pharmakeia The Sorcerer’s Wand – it exposes the medical and pharmaceutical industries. It’s also heartbreaking, but so worth watching.

411230 ▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #418 of 2096 🔗

I know someone who refused to say their Hippocratic oath because they felt it was an impossible commitment.

411305 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to TheHandbag, 4, #419 of 2096 🔗

Doctors in affect have just become sales assistants handing out drugs. Just medication technicians.

412570 ▶▶▶▶ stevie119, replying to Anti_socialist, #420 of 2096 🔗

Or licensed drug dealers.

411208 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 5, #421 of 2096 🔗

The doctor’s letter to the BMJ quoted AtL was a response to this article also in the BMJ:


Covid-19: Social murder, they wrote—elected, unaccountable, and unrepentant
‘After two million deaths, we must have redress for mishandling the pandemic.’

‘The “social murder” of populations is more than a relic of a bygone age. It is very real today, exposed and magnified by covid-19. It cannot be ignored or spun away. Politicians must be held to account by legal and electoral means, indeed by any national and international constitutional means necessary. State failures that led us to two million deaths are “actions” and “inactions” that should shame us all.’

411543 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Basileus, 2, #422 of 2096 🔗

That social murder article is Keir Starmers argument. Zero Covid, we should have locked down harder blah. Avoid.

411209 Julian, replying to Julian, 7, #423 of 2096 🔗

Another job gone – tennis line judges replaced by technology at the Australian Open Tennis, to make it more “bio-secure”. Being a line judge doesn’t pay much but it’s a way for tennis lovers to be involved in major tennis events. They will replace the ballkids next. Why not just replace it all with CGI?

411244 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Julian, 3, #424 of 2096 🔗

It will soon be robots playing the tennis….even more bio secure!

411248 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Julian, 1, #425 of 2096 🔗

Why did they not move that event from Melbourne this year. With the fruitcakes they have there running the show, what has transpired was totally predictable.

411295 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Julian, #426 of 2096 🔗

Yes, and the huge enormous prizes can be allocated by Guinevere.

411214 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 9, #427 of 2096 🔗

I’m living in a country that won’t let me out ” – Lionel Shriver in the Spectator

She deserves it, despite everything she says, she still supports the democrats Clinton mafia!

411243 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Anti_socialist, 5, #428 of 2096 🔗

Yes this woman is a bit peculiar.

412169 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Boris Bullshit, 1, #429 of 2096 🔗

… a bit peculiar.

She’s called Lionel …

411218 Cecil B, 9, #430 of 2096 🔗

The Rapists Dad announces that he is ahead in the ‘vaccinations ‘ game

He says they will soon have vaccinated the over 70’s

What’s not mentioned is that they are ‘vaccinating’ 60 year olds in the constituencies of the Rapists Dad and the Health Minister

In the ‘wrong’ constituencies the over 70’s are ‘missing out’

We have had four offers in the past 48hrs

Don’t they know there is an election on

I love Marxism

411221 Nobody2021, 8, #431 of 2096 🔗

This is quite an observation below. The Government is propping up the economy with T&T and also making some people very rich all with taxpayer funds.

Jonathan Portes

Interesting note in the GDP release – well over half of the 1% growth in Q4 came from the test and trace scheme…

411224 Margaret, 4, #432 of 2096 🔗


This was posted in Stop Press ATL but in case people miss it, it is worth a read.

No wonder there are no health and safety studies available re. wearing masks for long periods of time!

411227 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #433 of 2096 🔗

Supporting the vulnerable during lockdown ” – The Government is currently inviting evidence for an inquiry into support for the vulnerable during lockdown

That’s not what we need, we just need to stop “lockdowns”, by definition lockdown is compulsory enforced by draconian police powers.

If you must support those vulnerable categories who wish to cower isolate themselves (just do it with your money).

411239 ▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Anti_socialist, 4, #434 of 2096 🔗

God I hope no one replies. Because it’s actually a road map for silently neglecting the weak abs allowing them to die off. Ask anyone involved in the various DWP enquiries. It’s all a crock of shit.

411233 Ross Hendry, 22, #435 of 2096 🔗

Clearly vaccine uptake isn’t going too well so they let it be known that vaccine passports are under consideration.

These scumbags are totally predictable.

411240 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 8, #436 of 2096 🔗

“Bring out the Gimp”

Once again Imperial College and presumably Ferguson are brought out to provide modelling on demand to paint whatever picture is required to justify additional measures.

411373 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Nobody2021, 5, #437 of 2096 🔗

Yes, and I’m now of the opinion that it’s that way around – they are producing the results they are told to.

411242 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 55, #438 of 2096 🔗

Skeptics I just want to say this,I have not obeyed one single government diktat since this shit show got off the ground.. No mask (other than WW2) mixed and hugged family and friends, had house party’s, drank in a pub, traveled where I want within the UK, told covid Marshalls to fuck of and go die, and I will continue to do all the above in other words, live a normal life..

411286 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 7, #439 of 2096 🔗

My heeero!

411379 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Annie, 6, #440 of 2096 🔗

And your my favorite comment lady..

411644 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 2, #441 of 2096 🔗

And mine, seeing as we’re peddling gratuitous compliments this morning. Well, dead heat photo btwn. you and Andrea followed by a stewards’ enquiry if I must be pedantic.

411332 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 14, #442 of 2096 🔗

Totally with you M8. We are having regular parties here. Someone asked me “aren’t you worried about being grabbed by the fuzz?” I said “no,just worried about being swung round by the tits!”

411368 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bungle, 2, #443 of 2096 🔗

Respect to you Bungle.

411352 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 2, #444 of 2096 🔗

Good on you that’s exactly how I have lived my life since last April

411365 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Harry Chara, #445 of 2096 🔗

Respect to you Harry.

411245 chaos, replying to chaos, 4, #446 of 2096 🔗

Interesting facts #478474948

Bill Gates doesn’t even have a degree He dropped out.

411287 ▶▶ Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to chaos, 3, #447 of 2096 🔗
412255 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 1, #448 of 2096 🔗

That photo looks like the flames of hell busting out behind him.

411322 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to chaos, 5, #449 of 2096 🔗

bill gates doesn’t even have a soul.

411611 ▶▶▶ tarfu, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #450 of 2096 🔗

Ah!… soul.

411247 doug, replying to doug, 14, #451 of 2096 🔗

Toby Young stating incorrect data on the LC Podcast which totally blows his increasingly MSM repeat signal on this site.

I have been listening to London Calling Podcast since March 2020 and have enjoyed the banter between James Delingpole and Toby Young.
I even gave £ to Toby site last spring.

During this time, I have been party to the pairs transformation over time. They both went through the “ …we are all going to die ” phase before both realising this was a total data fiasco and nothing like the media driven “pandemic” portrayed by the Government. Late summer 2020, they philosophically parted ways and Dellingpole has become a rare lonely voice, however he has all the data on his side.

Having just listened to the latest sparring contest on the London Calling Podcast (8th Feb 2021), James Delingpole said that this entire “pandemic” is nothing more than an enormous over reaction to something no worse than a bad winter flu.

Toby Young disagreed and said this was only true for under 65 yr olds and that older people were at significantly more risk and hence he is justified in his stance.

I decided to review again the latest data from the ONS to see who is correct.

The attached charts are taken from the ONS, and like all the data this year, the conspiracy is hidden in plain sight.

The first chart here is showing the past 20 years data for various age groups “at most risk”. This deserves to be in quotations because even a cursory glance at the data shows two main points.

1) Firstly, the excess deaths all occurred during April and early May 2020. Before and after this date there is nothing that can justify the ongoing Government and media fed propaganda.

Even if you believe all the April / May 2020 deaths were ALL Covid related, then the “Pandemic” was over by the end of May 2020. However the ONS data shows that most of those deaths had no mention of Covid on the death certificates. This Conservative Woman web site has written before about the DNAR ( Do Not Attempt Resuscitation) notices that were forced on the elderly in April which were responsible for most the deaths.

Toby Young also reported that

“Care homes were asked by NHS managers and GPs to place blanket ‘Do not resuscitate’ (DNR) orders on all their residents at the height of the coronavirus pandemic to keep hospital beds free, a new report has found.”

He referenced the Telegraph story here.

2) Secondly, July 2020 had the lowest death rate for ANY AGE Group going back to 2001. Despite the endless media noise of “increasing cases”……“ beaches packed ”….. ” hospitals overrun ”, this has never translated into excess deaths.

The narrative used by all the lockdown zealots is that the deaths last year were above the 5 year average and hence the virus is going to kill us all.

However the 2020 overall mortality (14% above the 5 year average) is only true because of a single spike in April/May 2020 which coincided with closing the hospitals and the DNAR notices placed on care home residents. Remove this April / May excess deaths and 2020 no one would have noticed anything remarkable about the year.

This whole “pandemic” is nothing more than a total failure of MPs and the media who failed in their duty to look at basic data. Instead this has morphed into a political disaster, fed by people with vested interests in keeping the crisis going.

Dr. John Ioannidis, the C.F. Rehnborg Chair in Disease Prevention at Stanford University wrote in March 2020 that what we were looking at was “once-in-a-century evidence fiasco.” He was correct, and nothing has changed since.

The definition of the word “Parliament” means “a formal conference for the discussion of public affairs”, yet there is no discussion anymore. Simply a one way announcement of new diktats made up by the Government and forced on a populations with almost zero questioning by the MPs.

Shame on the MPs and shame on the media.

411734 ▶▶ ChrisW, replying to doug, #452 of 2096 🔗

Good analysis.

412155 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to doug, 2, #453 of 2096 🔗

Dr. John Ioannidis, the C.F. Rehnborg Chair in Disease Prevention at Stanford University wrote in March 2020 that what we were looking at was “once-in-a-century evidence fiasco.” He was correct, and nothing has changed since.

So good it should be repeated many many times.

411250 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 14, #454 of 2096 🔗

So since the start of the lockdowns anyone mentioning that the end game is health passports were labeled as conspiracy nutters but hey ho here we are….

But will the wishes of others be taken into consideration, their rights protected, their religious views respected, if vaccine documentation is brought in?

If you just look at how disabled rights are trampled on with masks, it is clear that rights won’t be protected.

So they want to build the health passport on ‘vaccines’ that are not properly tested, the positive research findings based on a very unreliable PCR test, new vaccine technology that could eventually wipe out most people or make them very sick or even affect fertility, etc

Be afraid, be very afraid

411267 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Victoria, 3, #455 of 2096 🔗

Don’t worry. We are. Time to find out who are friends are.

411692 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Victoria, 2, #456 of 2096 🔗

I attended an anti-lockdown protest in Liverpool in early August. This was the report of the event in the Liverpool Echo. Note the scoffing assurances given by NHS staff that we were protesting about nothing as our freedoms were not under threat. I would love to catch up with said NHS staff to remind them of what they said. “They won’t be held down and vaccinated against their will!”


412579 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Dodderydude, #457 of 2096 🔗

Another said: “It’s important to mention any vaccine is not forced. They are talking about freedom, well they have the freedom to do what they like.

Yeah except travel anywhere, get treatment, go see a film, go to a concert, buy groceries. You can still leave the house can’t you? This week.

412146 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Victoria, #458 of 2096 🔗

Arse. Fear is failure.

Staying properly alert as to likely developments is one thing; wetting ourselves in advance is both smelly and inconvenient. And people will laugh at us …

411253 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #459 of 2096 🔗

Critics of the 10-year Covid jail sentence are right, but out of touch ” – Ross Clark in the Spectator on the disturbing YouGov poll

The medieval prison system is an obsolete cruel & entirely worthless instituion that only serves one purpose revenge (oh & profit)! 90% of all incarcerated slaves do not belong in a cage. Especially with modern technology, other sanctions would be far less costly & harmful to society & therefore more effective. Only persons considered dangerous to others should be segregated from open society.

Entirely academic of course because we are all prisoners now.

411698 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Anti_socialist, #460 of 2096 🔗

Next they will demand people sentenced to 10 years have to pay for their own meals, like in mediaeval times. Oh no, they already have to.

411256 chaos, replying to chaos, 10, #461 of 2096 🔗

Interesting Facts #73933838

Why woiuld MP’s put in letters to 1922? It’s great working from home on full pay.

Why do some working people willingly go for a flawed PCR test? Because a positive means you get to stay home for almost two weeks.

Why mask us? Because it increases fear factor (makes it seem more real) and dissuades us from talking to each other. Same reasons pubs and gatherings are closed. To stop us talking. Stop us askingquestions.

Every month or day now is the same. TalkRadio toiday was TalkRadio in September. Same old. And the ordinary kids have now missed out on almost one year of education.

411261 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to chaos, #462 of 2096 🔗

The first point makes no sense. MPs are not employees. They are paid regardless of how many or few hours they attend the House of Commons or anything else.

411269 ▶▶▶ chaos, replying to Steve Hayes, 2, #463 of 2096 🔗

They get to stay home dullard.

411259 chaos, replying to chaos, 7, #464 of 2096 🔗

Valentine’s day this year will be somewhat illegal for many if not most..

In Bojo Kemal’s and Nut Nut and Wancksock’s new Taliban China UK..

We’re all muslim now. Masked. No sex before marriage.

411296 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to chaos, 5, #465 of 2096 🔗

Alcohol banned next

411326 ▶▶▶ Basics, replying to stefarm, #466 of 2096 🔗

Sugar rationed.

411260 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #467 of 2096 🔗

Laura Dodsworth speaks to sociologist and SAGE member Robert Dingwall

There should be no place in government for “ sociologists ” in a democratic society.

411262 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #468 of 2096 🔗

Prof. Dingwall has been bob on throughout this nonsense.

411334 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Tom Blackburn, #469 of 2096 🔗

That is beside the point, a democracy should be the opposite of government manipulating the masses to advance governments agenda.

In any case if it weren’t for sociologists & psychologists we wouldn’t be in lockdown or wearing masks etc.

411360 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #470 of 2096 🔗

I totally agree. If Dingwall has helped our cause then good luck to him, and glad he is there, but that doesn’t take away from the point that the govt has no business employing social scientists to “nudge” us. They serve us, not the other way round.

411271 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to Anti_socialist, 5, #471 of 2096 🔗

He could be an entomologist for all I care. He has spoken eloquently and convincingly about the need for people to live their lives and for the fear narrative to be dropped throughout.

411349 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to Anti_socialist, #472 of 2096 🔗

He’s probably one of a handful within SAGE stopping us from going full China lockdown.

411438 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Nobody2021, 1, #473 of 2096 🔗

Best of two evils?

Alternatively just eradicate evil.

412583 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Nobody2021, #474 of 2096 🔗

He’s one of the few I would spare.

411268 Basics, replying to Basics, 5, #475 of 2096 🔗


Bill Gates @BillGates
· 8 Feb
I’m teaming up with Anderson Cooper for a virtual chat on my new book “How to Avoid a Climate Disaster”.

No comment needed.

411293 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Basics, #476 of 2096 🔗

Pooper yuk.

411328 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to Basics, #477 of 2096 🔗

Nerdboy meets Vanderbilt – what could go wrong?

411270 Hawkins_94, replying to Hawkins_94, 13, #478 of 2096 🔗

While LS was busy parroting the government’s “vaccine miracle” it was clear to its readership this had to, simply had to, be part of the big picture.

My wife will surely have her medical consent removed and force vaccinated to remain working with the NHS. (Yes, vaccinated and NOT “immunised”) Having just married all of this will likely happen before we ever wanted to begin family planning.

It’s beyond frightening that something could become mandatory before anyone has even completed the programme by having their second dose. Surely the millions of voluntary guinea pigs make for an excellent case study? And to think they’re already saying some of said mandatory vaccines don’t even work!!

I’m deeply distressed about all this and feel utterly helpless… I’d consider leaving UK but where to. I’ll forego foreign holidays, but then what about everything else.

Others on here will refuse it at all costs and good for you, but for me I have my whole life ahead of me and the extreme pressures to conform will ultimately make me take a knee. Who knows what comes next

411289 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Hawkins_94, 1, #479 of 2096 🔗

No case study involving current authority could be excellent because honesty just isn’t going to happen.

411291 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Hawkins_94, 7, #480 of 2096 🔗

I have a young child. If, as I have known all along, they will make them mandatory for employment, I think the best option is to find one that is as close to a traditional vaccine as possible and do whatever it takes to get that. I don’t feel I have anywhere else to go and have felt this way for months now. This charade will not end, no matter how much we recite figures and stats and the harms of lockdown because it has nothing to do with any virus. Anyone who believes it so, even to think this all began as a response to some virus, is my enemy. It is that simple.

411374 ▶▶▶ Victorious Sponge, replying to jb12, 4, #481 of 2096 🔗

I believe the Novavax is a traditional attenuated virus vaccine, rather than an mRNA Frankenvaccine, and the adverse event patterns on its Phase III clinical trial so far show no signs of the horrifying autoimmune damages associated with the experimental technology injectibles. It’s been touted as “less effective” against the super-mutant ninja covids, but still effective. And much safer.

It’s expected to be approved in the UK by end of summer, so could be one worth going for if needed – I imagine you’ll be able to buy it at private clinics even if the “good old” NHS doesn’t stock it.

411560 ▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Victorious Sponge, 3, #482 of 2096 🔗

Yes, I noticed that one, but I wasn’t sure with all of the talk of nanotech. But hey, this is where we are: discussing which of these abominations are the lesser of all evils.

411751 ▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Victorious Sponge, 2, #483 of 2096 🔗

Just tell your GP you have already had it at some backstreet vaxx emporium
Then go apeshit when your records aren’t updated
and then get them updated
problem solved

412329 ▶▶▶▶ Hawkins_94, replying to Victorious Sponge, #484 of 2096 🔗

This is an interesting point, thanks

412589 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Victorious Sponge, #485 of 2096 🔗

I’m holding out for the Salinovax. Salt on the wounds maybe but safe enough.

411303 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Hawkins_94, 18, #486 of 2096 🔗

This gene therapy is an experiment you have every right to refuse. Stand your ground, you will not be alone in that. This is NOT a vaccine, this is a genetic experiment and must be refused.

The narative is that 85% are willing to take it. That is a lie – statistics carefully cherry picked by the nudge unit to get you to change your behaviour and accept this jab as inevitable. Meanwhile they tell us that the UK economy will bounce back – headlines today proclaiming that we’re going to be propsperous once again – no there will be an inevitable stock market crash once furlough is removed. Jobs and businesses will fail in large numbers.

We are being lied to every day in the press. Don’t fall for it.

412137 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Hawkins_94, 2, #487 of 2096 🔗

Several friends in the NHS are ‘vaccine’ refusers.

Beware of believing how the msm paint the picture.

411273 Lydia, replying to Lydia, 62, #488 of 2096 🔗

I started to read today’s post but stopped after the first paragraph.

I feel that there is no point anymore, I’m so sad and angry at what is happening. I fear for for my children’s future.

I have no friends who think and feel the same as me about all of this. They’re happy to do everything the gov tells them and can’t wait to roll their sleeves up.

I only leave the house to go and collect my shopping or visit my mum.

Is this life now? Trapped at home. Am I a bad person for wanting my old life back, to have the freedom to do what I like, to go abroad without having to have a vaccine for a illness that I’ve most probably had and recovered from?

I have my husband for support and he keeps reassuring me that it will end. Some days I agree but then a lot of the time I feel that nothing is going to change.

Sorry for being so miserable and negative but I genuinely have no one to turn to other than posting my thoughts and feelings on here.


411282 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Lydia, 33, #489 of 2096 🔗

We all want our lives back. That makes us good people.The bad people are the vicious, selfish, hysterical cowards who want us locked up so that they can protect their miserable non-lives.
Don’t feel trapped. Your mins us free. It’s the zombies who are trapped in their own cretinous idiocy.

411520 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Annie, 8, #490 of 2096 🔗

I think you miss the point, Annie.

This isn’t as serious as it is because of “ vicious, selfish, hysterical cowards”. That’s just a feel good rant.

It’s serious because of ordinary people.

411294 ▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Lydia, 30, #491 of 2096 🔗

Stay strong and try to be optimistic, this shit show will end there are far more people against Lockdown than the rigged pols would have you believe..

411302 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to Lydia, 25, #492 of 2096 🔗

Lydia, I know just how you feel. You don’t say how old your children are. Mine have all left home and have their own children – and I fear for all of them. What sort of Brave New World are they going to live in? Be thankful you have a husband you get on with: many don’t. Mrs Bugle and I are united in our resistance. I think gene therapy refusers are going to be smeared and bullied, so it’s no good pretending things will get easier in the medium term. Having said all this, the Regime is massively incompetent. Perhaps therein lies a shred of hope.

411414 ▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to Bugle, 10, #493 of 2096 🔗

My children are 12 & 9. They had a very fulfilling life with sports and activities before this. They both loved school and were doing brilliantly but now they struggle to motivate themselves.

411423 ▶▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Lydia, 2, #494 of 2096 🔗

Sprry to hear that

411463 ▶▶▶▶ Still Got It, replying to Lydia, 12, #495 of 2096 🔗

I have two boys – 10 and 12 and am in a state of perpetual fury. There is a creeping normalisation going on with regards to the kids and their new lives which makes me want to scream.

411786 ▶▶▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to Still Got It, 4, #496 of 2096 🔗

Their new lives involve sitting in front a screen, for mine anyway. I’ve spoken to them this morning and I’ve told them that this half term they are to get out as much as they can. Go get your friends out and get some fresh air and exercise.

412117 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Lydia, 3, #497 of 2096 🔗

That’s the spirit!

412122 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Lydia, 5, #498 of 2096 🔗

Trees, fields, parks, balls, bikes, skateboards, dogs, etc.

“Come back for your supper”, as our mum used to say.

413034 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Woden, replying to JohnB, 1, #499 of 2096 🔗

In the olden days ,it was’ come back for your tea,’

411592 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Lydia, 8, #500 of 2096 🔗

I am a private tutor….i see those effects everyday…it makes me sick to see it.

412109 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Lydia, #501 of 2096 🔗

I assume they’re doing online learning, which is no substitute for the real thing. Are you able to home school at all?

411306 ▶▶ Alethea, replying to Lydia, 15, #502 of 2096 🔗

Hang in there, Lydia. Lots of people here feel very much as you do.

411417 ▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to Alethea, 11, #503 of 2096 🔗

Thank you. Some days are harder than others. Just had a big cry to my husband and kids.

411625 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Lydia, 7, #504 of 2096 🔗

You’re very fortunate that you can do that. Mrs. M is a full-on New Model Citizen. I have to keep my own counsel- I find it easier to do that than many seem to, but it still takes its toll.

411327 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Lydia, 18, #505 of 2096 🔗

Don’t be trapped at home then . I am out every day for all manner of things from shopping to visiting friends in their homes / offices , biking 20 miles , etc etc . Fuck these pricks I haven’t ‘obeyed’ any of their nonsense rules and regs since April last year . Live your life it’s YOUR life

411330 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Lydia, 11, #506 of 2096 🔗

Feel free to get in touch Lydia . I have been a sounding board for lots of friends and family for months now .


411422 ▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to Harry Chara, 4, #507 of 2096 🔗

Thank you.

411350 ▶▶ mariehelene, replying to Lydia, 12, #508 of 2096 🔗

I feel exactly the same as you Lydia and I cry every morning for what we have lost to these power mad leaders and will never get back! I’m french and I have a twin brother and family there. I also have a house where I go every year but I refuse to have this experimental vaccine to cross the border ! Does that mean giving up on my country! I will probably move back there if this shitstorm carries on here! And as Harry says: get in touch as I have few friends on my page! I do go out for walks and shopping but not much else!

411437 ▶▶ jennybean, replying to Lydia, 14, #509 of 2096 🔗

I feel the same and am losing all hope. I have 3 kids 13, 10 and 5 and feel sick to my stomach every day that they will try and push a vaccine on them that they have no idea what the long term effects are. My husband is on same page and says we can homeschool them if they try and bring in mandatory Vax but my youngest is autistic and really needs school to help him develop. I cry every day as I’m so scared not for me but them.

411798 ▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to jennybean, 3, #510 of 2096 🔗

Yes, I am the same for my two. I feel sick at the thought of a vaccine for children and testing at school. There is no way I would let that happen.

411854 ▶▶▶▶ jennybean, replying to Lydia, 2, #511 of 2096 🔗

They’ve had every other Vax but it’ll be a cold day in hell before they have something that’s still in clinical trials!! 13 year old is meeting her mates in park and taking 10 year old to meet her friends at weekend. Surely there’s plenty of people just getting on with life quietly and ignoring the evil government. My Mum’s 73 and has had 1 jab and is coming to see us when she’s had second one no matter what the government says

411449 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Lydia, 13, #512 of 2096 🔗

Stay strong and bugger the rules. My mental health nosedived during the first lockdown when I confined myself to my local areas despite the lack of green spaces and rampant anti-social behaviour. Since then I’ve been out everyday and I don’t care. I realised that no-one cares for me and I need to take care of myself and if I have to go into Central London everyday even for a walk along Regent Street so be it.

411805 ▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to Bart Simpson, 3, #513 of 2096 🔗

Just going out for a walk can make you feel so much better. Its easy to get trapped indoors especially during winter time.

411465 ▶▶ GuyRich, replying to Lydia, 10, #514 of 2096 🔗

I feel your anguish Lydia. I have been in this boat since October 2019 with the whole ‘Event 201’ thing and news of a quantum dot tattoo from a ‘patch-like’ vaccine delivery system which would show someone is vaccinated when a UV light is shone on the skin – advertised at the time as beneficial for children.

I genuinely cried at the thought of my children being taken away from me, when the WHOs Mike Ryan suggested that infected people could be taken from homes in a ‘dignified manner’, along with all of the new ‘laws’ laid out to the same effect in the Coronavirus Act.

It hasn’t gotten any easier. I am so utterly depressed (chronically, diagnosed many years ago) and this is all pushing me to my limit. I have young children and their future looks bleak. I have tried looking for freedom cell networks but no one is forthcoming in any of the ones I have found. Quite how they’d even work long term is beyond me but thought it worth a shot.

My partner is supportive but doesn’t think things are as bleak as I make out (she says I catastrophise everything) and we will return to normal soon. We go out for walks every weekend with our children, go to the park etc and she takes them out nearly every day. We are fully prepared to homeschool if needs be.

I have one friend who is suspicious but won’t meet up. My brother is totally on board and we meet regularly, thankfully, and I do see my mum too (less on board but is also suspicious). I have taken to growing my own fruit and vegetables to not only channel my energy/mental health but to also do something useful for my family, getting the kids involved etc.

I don’t have much hope for the future, but while there a like minded people out there like yourself, then there is always hope.

411832 ▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to GuyRich, 2, #515 of 2096 🔗

There’s always hope, lets try and cling on to that and hope that this will be over in the future. We will always have like minded people on here who we can turn to for support.

411585 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Lydia, 5, #516 of 2096 🔗

You are not a bad person you are wonderful. Sadly its your friends who are the wrong uns…they probably always were…. you just did not realise it. Now you know.

411821 ▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to Boris Bullshit, 2, #517 of 2096 🔗

I do know now. My husband said you’ll find new friends. I’ll have to as my friends will be vaxxed and going abroad and I’ll be going to Skegness for my holidays!

412133 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Lydia, 2, #518 of 2096 🔗

Skegness ?! Only if you’re lucky ! 🙂

Seriously though, I’d keep trying with the groups angle. Every week our groups get new people who ‘didn’t know any others thought the same’. Once you find a good one, children can meet up, parents can have a mental health support group, or business meeting, over a couple of pints and a snack. Plus just fighting against the tide is very empowering.

412597 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Lydia, 1, #519 of 2096 🔗

Even the right-on types are majorly pissed off they can’t have a holiday this year. It is unfortunate the “vaccines” arrived (were waved through by MHRA) so early – this is what is making this year much worse than the last one.

413074 ▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Lydia, 1, #520 of 2096 🔗

i think a lot of us have only here for those who think like we do.is so wonderful to have this

411274 TheHandbag, replying to TheHandbag, 3, #521 of 2096 🔗

Got to ask this and go… If you could live anywhere in this God-forsaken country, where would you go?

I need a spot of land and an MP with guts who makes it feel safer than it is because he’s non-compliant, (like Desmond Swayne). I enjoy the company of people and have huge faith in their ability to do good, but I don’t enjoy living cheek by jowl with them. Where could we go?

411320 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to TheHandbag, 11, #522 of 2096 🔗

Screw THIS country I don’t even want to live here anymore . Had plans to up to the sticks but I would rather leave this shower of shit and the brain dead sheep behind

413041 ▶▶▶ Woden, replying to Harry Chara, #523 of 2096 🔗

See the scene in the film ‘My Dinner With Andre’, where the bloke reckons he would like to escape the robots, but it is impossible because they are everywhere.

411323 ▶▶ Basics, replying to TheHandbag, 1, #524 of 2096 🔗

Mistake spotted.

Your MP with guts will either be an apparition or else evaporate.

411275 Bugle, replying to Bugle, 16, #525 of 2096 🔗

“School return date must be ‘signed in blood’, Boris Johnson told.” No – vote down the emergency powers and get the 1922 to wake up and get rid of Boris Johnson.

411312 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Bugle, 9, #526 of 2096 🔗

Parliament is a waste of time and space, it is a distraction. Its role is that of the French National Assembly at Vichy, or the Reichstag after 1933. I don’t really know why people here keep discussing what this or that MP has said. Will they exercise their constitutional authority to do anything other than give cover to the regime? No. They are culpable, the institution is of no use or value.

What we have seen in history is that when democracy is destroyed, dictatorship is preferable to oligarchy. There is no permanent oligarchy, certainly no possibility of a permanent ‘liberal’ oligarchy.

411512 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Ovis, 10, #527 of 2096 🔗

I think it’s far more serious.

I see no evidence that the majority of MPs actually grasp the fundamental issues : either of civil rights or about Covid itself.

411599 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to RickH, 5, #528 of 2096 🔗

Have to agree with you there Rick…its impossible to overstate the seriousness of this.

411719 ▶▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to RickH, 4, #529 of 2096 🔗

It seems unfathomable how so many agenda driven, sometimes ‘educated’ but always fundamentally unintelligent party selected MPs/ministers ( from all major parties ) have hoodwinked the nation for quite so long. Not to put too fine a point on it most MPs are thick, and most ministers fundamentally unqualified/inexperienced for the positions they hold. How did Gideon ever become Chancellor, for example (there are many, many more)?
Perhaps we just didn’t want to call ’em out, as this would force us to actually get of our sorry collective a**es and do something about it between catching up on Soaps and commenting about Strictly on twitter.
The people get the government they deserve might be a convenient truism, but all too apt atm I’m afraid. And we are ALL culpable.

412151 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 1, #530 of 2096 🔗

I think that, like the Americans, we imagined that our institutions with their ‘checks and balances’ were strong enough to protect our fundamental freedoms. We now find to our alarm this is no longer the case and we don’t know what to do about it. We have elected a PM who has two talents, avoiding scrutiny and accumulating power. Parliament, despite its occasional shows of affronted dignity seems not to care.

Some daylight brought to bear upon the inner workings of this coup would most likely end it – although, I suspect, we would all find ourselves much poorer.

412274 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Bugle, #531 of 2096 🔗

we would all find ourselves much poorer.

We can’t get any poorer than having our lives ripped away and basic liberties arbitrarily denied. We will not get back these days of state imposed imprisonment, nor will compensation be paid. Besides, once the IMF imposes strict austerity conditions for a post-Lockdown ‘future economy’ bailout, all private assets and savings will be at risk (remember Cyprus, Malta, Spain, Greece etc). And for what exactly?

412328 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 1, #532 of 2096 🔗

Some one posted a comment here today suggesting that once the Reset has taken place, all the debt – national and private – will be forgiven. Digital currencies will be launched from a new base, and. I guess, good compliant, ‘vaccine’-taking, health-passport bearing citizens will not even notice. The Guardians will have bought the world and the people will be their tenants.

For those who resist, the choice will be stark and the future rough. George Osborne has suggested that the uncertificated will not be able to participate in normal life and should be ignored. As well as being a hysterical over reaction to a relatively minor disease, it raises a good many questions. For example, will the children of the “ignored” be able to attend school, or will they become wards of the state?

But to return to my point, some transparency on the inward workings of this international coup would finish it. Those culpable would suffer shame and prosecutions. Debt forgiveness would not then be forthcoming and the public finances would be in ruins. So the choice is servitude and a bearable standard of living, or freedom and poverty. Personally, I would choose the latter.

412492 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Bugle, #533 of 2096 🔗

once the Reset has taken place, all the debt – national and private – will be forgiven

This statement stands in stark contrast to the IMF’s own ‘Future Economy’ Covid bailout loan conditions, already in place in several developing economies. It also goes against the long-prevailing neo-liberal policy of using debt as a means of reversing decades of downward wealth distribution. Debt will not be forgiven, moreover the trillions now being run up by Sunak will be recoverable from private wealth and property. We are already in this mess to approaching £50k per UK citizen. May was already flexing her muscles prematurely in 2017 when threatening to take the homes from the elderly in care – this policy has not been cancelled, merely shelved for a later date.

Osborne has suggested that the uncertificated will not be able to participate in normal life

I have long held that the unqualified should not be able to participate in government economic policy making, which would have excluded Gideon the towel folding historian from the outset. He (and other fellow amateur public school dilettantes) should be made financially accountable for the incompetence and damage inflicted when in office.

411341 ▶▶ Achilles, replying to Bugle, 2, #534 of 2096 🔗

More posturing. Will amount to nothing as usual.

411277 C S, replying to C S, 1, #535 of 2096 🔗


Looks as though the last lockdown was really worth it then…I’m sure it will just be for 5 days though…

411314 ▶▶ Julian, replying to C S, 1, #536 of 2096 🔗

Yup, how’s that zero covid thing working out for them?

“Linked to quarantine hotels” Yeah, great idea to have quarantine hotels. Can’t fail.

411348 ▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Julian, 4, #537 of 2096 🔗

The virus is thought to have leaked from quarantine hotels.

Ok, who left the door open and let all the viruses out,?

411539 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Richy_m_99, 2, #538 of 2096 🔗

It’s worse than that. The explanation is while the person implicated wore their mask in the room, this had a nebulising effect and meant the virus was able to spread through air conditioning systems and through cracks in doorways.

So masks nebulise droplets and release virons. Yep. Logic

411279 gedhurst, replying to gedhurst, 8, #539 of 2096 🔗

So Imperial were not aware of the affect of sunlight/UV on airborne virons, no idea of seasonality. I’m just trying to assimilate that information, but finding it very difficult.

411297 ▶▶ Basics, replying to gedhurst, 1, #540 of 2096 🔗

Theoretically speaking, would anyone be comfortable sending the son or daughter off to ICL where other universities don’t harbour such seemingly maniacal staff?

411308 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to gedhurst, #541 of 2096 🔗

Add ignoring the risk to one of the most vulnerable groups, care home residents.

it seems there is more that they don’t know vs what they do know

411444 ▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Lindy, #542 of 2096 🔗

I am sure that they know- these are bright kids remember . Its just that they don’t want to know what they know because their boss , the man determining their academic futures, is Ferguson.

411636 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Lindy, 1, #543 of 2096 🔗

I re-watched this Channel 4 interview with John Edmunds (SAGE) last night to remind myself what a moron he is. Note the number of times he says words to the effect of “We/I didn’t know…” or “We couldn’t foresee…” “I’m not sure…” His whole demeanour is extremely disconcerting.


411285 Nobody2021, 9, #544 of 2096 🔗

Mandatory vaccination = Trial without jury for a crime you have not committed and may never commit but could possibly commit. There is no plea for innocence, by standing trial you are automatically admitting guilt.

Mandatory vaccine passport = Confirmation that you pled guilty.

If you accept both for this particular “crime” then you are giving express permission to be treated the same for all future crimes regardless of whether or not you are even capable of committing them. Crimes will be determined by the state and the mere possibility of you committing said crime is enough to confirm your guilt.

411288 BertieFox, replying to BertieFox, #545 of 2096 🔗

Has anyone heard of a group called Covid19 Assembly? They keep sending me e-mails. I don’t trust them at all.

411301 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to BertieFox, #546 of 2096 🔗

I am suspicious.

411307 ▶▶ Julian, replying to BertieFox, #547 of 2096 🔗

Yes I have heard of them

I think TY is involved, among others

411325 ▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Julian, #548 of 2096 🔗

Yes he is involved and gave them a mention on here months ago. Martin Kulldorff has endorsed them.
The website is currently a temporary “holding” site, with a new one to be imminently.

411871 ▶▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to TheOriginalBlackPudding, #549 of 2096 🔗

The temporary website hasn’t changed for about three months.

411555 ▶▶ Stephanos, replying to BertieFox, 1, #550 of 2096 🔗

Yes, I have heard of them. I did some work for them ‘tagging’ articles ATL for their new website; the tagging was accomplished with the knowledge of Toby I understand. It seems to me that they are genuine. The person with whom I corresponded put me in touch with the ‘Back to the Old Normal Group’.

411298 Smelly Melly, replying to Smelly Melly, 20, #551 of 2096 🔗

So the salami slicing continues. Vaccine passports to fly, how about the end of the salami, vaccine passports to go out, visit friends, go in a shop, go to the cinema etc. The police having the power to demand to see your passport/papers and if you don’t have it, you’ll be arrested.

I would of said a year ago that this was conspiracy theory, but not any more.

411336 ▶▶ l835, replying to Smelly Melly, 2, #552 of 2096 🔗

We will definitely need it to book theatre, cinema, sport or gig tickets etc Visits to cafes and restaurants will continue to use T&T.

411393 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Smelly Melly, 4, #553 of 2096 🔗

It will be the jolly old Sector system that the old Nazi party used , ( vere r your papeers!! ) The New Nazi party will be just the same !! It was only one mans lifetime ago , oh we think we are so much more advanced “ it could never be like that again “ Stand by cos it’s here !!.. Now if we all chucked our Smart phones in the bin , that would be a start !!

411300 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 8, #554 of 2096 🔗

It’s in the nature of Psychopaths’ to lie

The lying of this regime has been on an industrial scale

The 22nd of February became the 29th of February without so much as a blush

The Greater Covidia have fallen for it and really do think they are being vaccinated

They really do think they are going to get their freedom back

All roads lead to Jonestown

Twelve million have supped the Kool Aid so far

(I’m still down to have Piers pad so keep your mitts off)

412095 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Cecil B, #555 of 2096 🔗

Reckon he’s got more than one, Cecil. I’ll take the one in mid Sussex.

411311 crimsonpirate, 4, #556 of 2096 🔗

In the same way that some shops don’t accept Amex, Diners Card you will find some countries won’t accept some vaccines. Within that there will likely subsets relating to upgrades in the same way you upgrade your iphone.

411318 crimsonpirate, 4, #557 of 2096 🔗

Another Lockdown in Victoria. This time it’s Dan Andrews vs Kent Variant. May the best side win!

411321 chaos, replying to chaos, 7, #558 of 2096 🔗

A Bill Gates advert (about his new climate change book) every few minutes on TalkRadio.. I guess TalkRadio don’t mind losing listeners.. Bill is a eugenecist. He doesn’t even have a degree.

411333 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to chaos, 5, #559 of 2096 🔗

Talk Radio lost me a while ago.

411356 ▶▶ GuyRich, replying to chaos, 5, #560 of 2096 🔗

I raised this the other day. Absolute shilling. Scum.

411387 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to chaos, 7, #561 of 2096 🔗

Largest farmland owner now in the USA apparently. Funny that. This little twat wants to kill people, then feed the remainder with his food monopoly.

411433 ▶▶▶ xplod, replying to FerdIII, 7, #562 of 2096 🔗

Soylent Green, 2022-3-4-5.

411514 ▶▶▶ rose, replying to FerdIII, 2, #563 of 2096 🔗

He could also starve the remainder if he owns all the farmland

411475 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to chaos, 2, #564 of 2096 🔗

I get email notifications from Waterstones and Foyle’s and they have been pushing Gates’s book for weeks now.

411489 ▶▶ maggie may, replying to chaos, 3, #565 of 2096 🔗

It was on Classic FM as well. I guess with all the advertising revenue they’re losing from businesses which aren’t operating (i think there was a piece on this ATL recently) they’re having to take what they can get ie propaganda from government and others like Gates.

411511 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to chaos, 7, #566 of 2096 🔗

He doesn’t even have a degree.

What does that even have to do with anything? Some of the thickest people I’ve ever met have degrees.

Gates – as much as I hate the man – can hire more people with firsts from Oxford and Cambridge, Princeton and Caltech than you or I could afford wine gums.

This detracts from your main point, which is spot on. Talk Radio, like every other media outlet has been bought and paid for by globalists and the government.

411329 James Leary #KBF, replying to James Leary #KBF, 9, #567 of 2096 🔗

Listened to the Delingpod yesterday with Josh, the running ex-Marine who’s taking himself on a solo run/walk from the south coast to Hadrian’s Wall along with his English White Dragon to publicise the death of free speech, and English democracy. Somebody had set up a GoFundMe page to pay his young family bills and for a lawyer when plod jump on him. I went to it last night. It’s gone. Been taken down. Natch.


Telegram link.


412089 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to James Leary #KBF, 1, #568 of 2096 🔗

Still on u-tube.

White dragon though ? Dubious alchemical symbology …

413050 ▶▶▶ James Leary #KBF, replying to JohnB, #569 of 2096 🔗

LOVE White Rabbit, though.

411335 Achilles, replying to Achilles, 17, #570 of 2096 🔗

The fact Imperials model ignores seasonality shows you how far from reality they have drifted. The model is their reality now and they will happily ignore even the most well established principles of respiratory viruses if they don’t support their beliefs. It is the Koran to them now. These people are very, very dangerous.

411384 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Achilles, 10, #571 of 2096 🔗

Models are shyte. Globaloneywarming is an example. No connection to reality. None. Ferguson et al are not programmers (I do program). I could rip apart their outsourced code, schemas, apps in about 4 hours. All shyte.

411447 ▶▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to FerdIII, 1, #572 of 2096 🔗

Yep, these models are a backwards and simplistic thing that only a certain type of deluded individual would engage with. They are fine for modelling entities with simple rules on a massive scale but can never be successful for something with as many variables, unknowns and chaotic interactions as an epidemic – as Professor Pantsdown has proven time and time again. They could possibly make decent use of AI and machine learning but I would imagine that they find it difficult to get machine learning algorithms to give the dramatic output they desire.

411502 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Achilles, 2, #573 of 2096 🔗

Retrospectively, the models in general have rarely been anywhere near reality – although they have been the key driver of much nonsense.

The general distance from the real world was shown with Vallance’s ‘4000 deaths a day’ nonsense back in November when several modelling projections were issued, most of which didn’t even mimic the shape of a virus curve.

411338 B.F.Finlayson, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 7, #574 of 2096 🔗

At first, it would just be a glorified doctor’s note, to help you get on that longed-for flight to Greece. Later, it could exist to “reassure” your employer.

Lara Prendergast in the Spectator

Stop there please, as you seem to be either deliberately or unwittingly avoiding the real issue that a ‘piece of paper’ is no longer needed in the 2020s. A vaxx passport (like a MOT certificate or a DVLA tax disc) will be a digital procedure available by tapping in one’s own personal number plate ID . One can already find out how many ‘MOT advisories’ the neighbour’s posh car had last time round by tapping in their registration number, and check which wheel size to boot.
The link between State and Corporate has strengthened in the last year, with supermarkets being allowed to thrive while small shops and local economies go to the wall aided by police and local government intimidation. Accordingly, there will be no national or local paper passport, compliant world states will allow the Vaxx to be its own bio-passport .
The psychologists in marketing are working on this, with an ever more confident and dominant Pharma (in the manner of 90s mobile phones) projecting ‘basic’ and ‘luxury’ models, regular free upgrades, lifetime contracts etc..
Freed from being simply a C19 vaccine gene therapy will incorporate all manner of must have bio-apps & add ons , and every year we will be running after the latest models; willing to shell out $trillions worldwide for the privilege/necessity. Soon a jab will not even be necessary, and each of us will have their own preference ( chewy capsule, energy drink, herbal smoke inhalation ).
Then there’s the matter of cost. Some will favour the expensive Gates backed i-MOON technology, some will economise with ‘Lives-R-Us’ or Tesco’s own pay-as-you-breathe ‘Every Little Dose Helps’ budget brand. Will there will be Vaxx class snobbery? Of course there will!! Vaxx Wars will drive sales still further.
Oh, I almost forgot, the NHS, what about the NHS, doesn’t it have a say in all of this?
I think we already know the answer.

411385 ▶▶ p02099003, replying to B.F.Finlayson, #575 of 2096 🔗

You already have an ID number from birth, it’s your NHS number. As soon as you reach employment age you get a National insurance number.

411418 ▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to p02099003, 3, #576 of 2096 🔗

My point exactly. Passport number also. Numbers already used as a digital key to unlock personal information. The extent of the information linked to the number ( and so available to police, border control, employers, HMRC etc ) is the only change. Immunisation info will be simply layered into this, and so be available for inquiry, so there is no need for a separate vaxx ID.
Corporate Pharma will be in control so will ensure this info is updated, and state the level of disease protection you have bought into within your chosen contract. It is called taking control of your health and your loved ones, and will be 100% backed by the insurance sector. We will not notice the change, it will be subtle and painless, and within 3 years we all have private health care plans – or lose our basic civil liberties permanently.

411424 ▶▶ leicestersq, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 6, #577 of 2096 🔗

It may not be a piece of paper. Isnt the crucial thing here that you are obliged to share your health information with others for inappropriate reasons? The reason for the sharing isnt to protect anyone else’s health, it is to coerce people into taking the vaccine. That is a breach of the Nuremburg code and the Data protection act.

411457 ▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to leicestersq, 3, #578 of 2096 🔗

Isnt the crucial thing here that you are obliged to share your health information with others for inappropriate reasons?

Privacy has already been compromised by allowing police to access personal health records, without any parliamentary debate or opposition. The ‘common cause’ argument, used time and again to trump any human rights objections, is being used daily by the state to drive a coach and horses through now obsolete notions of civil liberties.
But it is worse than that, because not only will private Vaxx contracts ( aka gene therapy ) become the compulsory norm, they will become the desirable norm . The sought after, increasingly expensive, life accessory to boast about. There will be no concern of out-dated notions like human rights or healthcare for all or even privacy of info.
It doesn’t need nano-chips in the vaccines (a stupid idea put out there by Pharma just to be debunked), it is the process and technology itself that is life & culture destroying. However did we manage our bank accounts and personal lives in the 90s without that screen sitting on the table, or the insistent little beeping box in our hands?

411506 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to leicestersq, #579 of 2096 🔗

That is a breach of the Nuremburg code and the Data protection act.

Have any lawyers stated that?

Nothing personal, but I’m starting to find bar room barristers extremely tiring. They rarely add anything meaningful to the debate, and their extrusions serve no purpose other than to say ‘look at me, I’m clever’, while actually saying ‘look at me, I’m opining on something I’ve no training or experience in, because it looks easy when Rumpole of the Bailey does it’.

411535 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to AidanR, 2, #580 of 2096 🔗

Lawyers & barristers are highly overrated, as has been demonstrated during the panicdemic.

411632 ▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #581 of 2096 🔗

I don’t disagree.. there are plenty of mediocrities, and I don’t wish to ‘appeal to authority’, but I’ve been around a lot of subcultures (e.g. freeman on the land) where they’ve echo-chambered their way into a complete misreading of the law.

“I’ve got my rights” they will cry, as they are clapped in irons and led to the cells at the point of a gun. No mate, you don’t, because the rules of the game don’t work the way you think they do, because you’re reading them all wrong.

411840 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to AidanR, 1, #582 of 2096 🔗

Not sure they misunderstood how the law was meant to work, they just didn’t keep up with the neo-liberal take over & common law being replaced with rules based order regulation.

Freeman on the land, are wonderfully naive people, i admire greatly, but either way there’s no such thing as natural justice or a fair trial its all rigged to go the establishment way. We live in a hierarchical society its who you know & how much (money) power you have that matters.

412127 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Anti_socialist, #583 of 2096 🔗

Again I don’t disagree, and I don’t think it’s anything new, because it’s precisely what my father told me 30 years ago.

411339 straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, 13, #584 of 2096 🔗

Unless I’ve missed it the NSPCC has been rather quiet about schools being closed.

411345 ▶▶ Paulus, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, 13, #585 of 2096 🔗

There are so many charities that have been far to quiet on the harms being done in their areas of campaigning; cancer; heart disease; dementia; domestic violence and the list goes on.

411401 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Paulus, 7, #586 of 2096 🔗

indeed. no more contributions to these useless sods. It is well know that most contributions pay for salaries and very little goes for the cause.

Rather make a contribution to the Free Speech Union by becoming a member

411597 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Paulus, 9, #587 of 2096 🔗

The charities have been useless and I will never donate to them again ever.

This also includes military charities such as the British Legion & Help for Heroes especially as its a disgrace that the British army has a branch that works against the people of this country.

They can all get stuffed & shan’t be sorry if they have to wind down their operations.

411620 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 6, #588 of 2096 🔗

I think we have to face the fact that ‘charities’ or certainly the larger ones are just multinational businesses these days who don’t have to pay any tax. They own huge assets and employ vast numbers and have CEOs on eye watering salaries. They were no more likely to come out against this than Amazon.

This is the new phase of capitalism that has been developing for a long time. It has no respect for national borders or democratic governments. They all pursue global strategies and are in league with global NGO organisations.

Ironically the modern ‘Left’ are fully signed up for this but that does not mean they are the true architects. They are just Lenin’s ‘useful idiots’.

411487 ▶▶ RickH, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, -3, #589 of 2096 🔗

I wouldn’t read too much into examples like this. Charities can be ‘got’ by the charge of political activity, and are also sensitive to funding pressure.

A difficult balance.

411497 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to RickH, 4, #590 of 2096 🔗

The ‘political activity’ thing is not something that’s ever bothered the big charities before.

411618 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, 1, #591 of 2096 🔗

Charities, philanthropy, altruism all = corporate neoliberal globalism aka communism to you comrade.

411823 ▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #592 of 2096 🔗

The primary purpose of charities is to provide awful people with terrible things on their conscience with a way to get to sleep at night.

411340 this is my username, 1, #593 of 2096 🔗

Project Immanuel – Announcement

“In this video we would like to introduce Project Immanuel, which critically examines the scientific background of the so-called “Corona Crisis.” With the help of the natural scientist and virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka, all fundamental publications on SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 are closely scrutinised and scientifically examined in a series of posts.”

411344 captainbeefheart, replying to captainbeefheart, 10, #594 of 2096 🔗

A global ID card.

“It’s not a conspiracy! All this evolved over the last 11 months of bumbling cock-ups! It was never planned! It’s the only way we can go back to ‘normal’!”

411470 ▶▶ Apache, replying to captainbeefheart, 1, #595 of 2096 🔗

If they want a global ID card then say so. But it must include all countries and all people. No ID card no rights – asylum seekers.

411490 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Apache, 2, #596 of 2096 🔗

Steady on, they’ll try to sell it to right wingers that way, while telling the left it’ll allow them to better safeguard refugees’ rights and lives.

411483 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to captainbeefheart, 1, #597 of 2096 🔗

I don’t think it’s this back or white.

The capacity of governments for cock-up and groupthink is undoubted.

No doubt there is pure evil at large, but the most coherent narrative I’ve come across so far is the ‘convergent opportunism’ one, posited by Mike Yeadon.

412080 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to AidanR, #598 of 2096 🔗

You’ll come round …

412078 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to captainbeefheart, #599 of 2096 🔗

Yep. In the nicest possible way, ‘Fuck off Toby !’. 🙂

411346 Cbird, replying to Cbird, 9, #600 of 2096 🔗

I understand that the vaccines contain animal products. Will vegans be allowed to claim exemption to vaccination then?

411366 ▶▶ Basics, replying to Cbird, #601 of 2096 🔗


Will you be able to travel the globe with a V stamped in your passport? Unknown.

411376 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Cbird, 3, #602 of 2096 🔗

Yes, as long as you wear a very big Yellow Star on your jacket and tug your forelock at the masktards and jump out of the way with your head bowed.

411394 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Cbird, 3, #603 of 2096 🔗

sadly most people fail to do their own research in order to make an informed decision so many vegans will happily take the jab because the ad on the TV said it was safe

411347 kvnmoore561, replying to kvnmoore561, 9, #604 of 2096 🔗

So, apparently testers are out in my area today. If we’re in lockdown and lockdowns work, what exactly are they testing for? Is it to see that infections are down and the lockdown ‘worked’? I don’t get it, seems to be a complete waste of time and money. Anyway, I’ll politely refuse if they turn up.

411354 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to kvnmoore561, #605 of 2096 🔗

See my post below: https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/02/12/latest-news-283/#comment-411221

I think they’re propping up the economy whilst lining their own pockets. Robin Hood and the Sherriff of Nottingham rolled into one.

411358 ▶▶▶ kvnmoore561, replying to Nobody2021, #606 of 2096 🔗


412076 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Nobody2021, #607 of 2096 🔗

Ay up ! Robin Hood was one of the good guys.

411407 ▶▶ leicestersq, replying to kvnmoore561, 5, #608 of 2096 🔗

They clearly need to find some more cases to keep the scare story going. With the PCR test, the more they test the more cases they will get irrespective of how many people are actually ill with Covid. Without those numbers it is difficult to make an argument to continue the lockdown. Sad that so many people find it difficult to understand that testing isnt always 100% accurate. In the case of PCR testing I doubt it is even 5% accurate.

411353 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 11, #609 of 2096 🔗

what have they done?

“The crisis is projected to create the first ever drop in the global Human Development Index”

“estimates suggest that an additional 100-420 million people may fall below the US$1.90-perday poverty line”

“double the number of food-insecure people globally from 135 million to 265 million – including 74 million children”

“there will be an additional 3.43 million stunted children as a direct result of the COVID-19 crisis”

“children have a higher risk of death from diarrhoea, pneumonia, malaria and measles”


411359 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to steve_w, 4, #610 of 2096 🔗

If it saves one life!

411428 ▶▶ Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to steve_w, 9, #611 of 2096 🔗

This is biggest global catastrophe since WW2. For most people that penny hasn’t dropped yet. Good post, thanks.

411485 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 6, #612 of 2096 🔗

It truly is. That is horrific.

411547 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 4, #613 of 2096 🔗

I only really considered UK horrors and changes to life expectancy in the UK til last summer. Then started reading WHO, UN, WFP documents. Considering only 2 million have died ‘of’ covid so far worldwide, deaths worldwide (in QALYs) could exceed this from each of suicides, malaria, diarrhea, starvation, malnutrition induced disease etc etc etc. Add them together and this is an absolute catastrophe

411355 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 6, #614 of 2096 🔗

The implications of vitamin D deficiency on COVID-19 for at-risk populations

The complications of obtaining sufficient vitamin D are further exacerbated in subgroups at risk for COVID-19; the complications include the global quarantine, isolation, and stay-at-home orders that have been given to individuals who have been officially diagnosed with COVID-19, believe they have contracted COVID-19, and who are taking measures to reduce their risk of exposure. 1 , 2 For many, especially older individuals in nursing homes or community long-term care facilities, as well as for ethnic minorities who more commonly live in densely populated areas, these measures include little or no movement outside their home. 1 , 2 Major implications of limited or no time spent outdoors are the reduced synthesis of vitamin D from sunlight exposure and the increased risk of vitamin D deficiency development.

What was it that Hancock said?

411406 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Basileus, 7, #615 of 2096 🔗

During lockdown version one Hancock asserted that sunbathing was illegal.

411504 ▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Basileus, 7, #616 of 2096 🔗

It was totally obvious that the government were desperate for this virus to be as severe as possible. We knew very early on that vitamin D massively reduced risk at negligible cost. They surpressed this information and made people hide indoors during the sunniest spring/summer ever.

I’d they wanted to save lives they would have distributed vitamins widely or at least advised their use. The sheep think the dictatorship is there to protect them, when in fact the psychopaths need people to die to prove the virus is scary.

The only actions the dictatorship have taken are the ones with the greatest financial costs. If an effective drug or mitigation comes then it must be burried unless it is expensive. Economic destruction is their objective and lives do not matter. The spending spree is happening everywhere – local government have also been told to spend like mad, and they have been given deadlines to use it or lose it.

412677 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Basileus, #617 of 2096 🔗

They also denied HCQ treatments from the start of this scam.

411357 Basics, 6, #618 of 2096 🔗

Travellers from England face checks at the Scottish border after UK ministers snubbed SNP demands to quarantine all international arrivals.


There are many in Scotland who wish to visit friends and relatives in other parts of the UK and return. This isn’t about folks travelling to Scotland – let’s be honest why would you do that in the current situation, unless studying collapsing dictatorships of the world for a PHD.

411362 Andrew K, replying to Andrew K, 5, #619 of 2096 🔗

I don’t know if anybody BTL has picked up on this story ATL about continued lockdowns in china.


Some of these video’s emerging from china THIS YEAR are very disturbing. And to think everybody has followed the lead of a crazy dictator in China. This link must be shares and shared more to show these zealots who keep banging on that lockdown worked in China.

411367 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Andrew K, 7, #620 of 2096 🔗

Is Wancock so very different from Xi or Bidentard with his 7.000 troops encamped around the White House? When will Doris call in the army?

412063 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to FerdIII, 1, #621 of 2096 🔗

yes, the most popular president in history, if you believe the vote count [and who does?] – yet he does not feel safe without an enhanced military presence around him.

411478 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Andrew K, 1, #622 of 2096 🔗

That ambush testing is frightening.

You have to be careful, we’ve seen this before

411363 FerdIII, 24, #623 of 2096 🔗

Covid Fascists always changing the messaging, objectives.

1-Diapers and Distancing, just flatten the Fat curves of Doris’ fat ugly obese body they said.

2-Shut down all businesses, public places, to limit the infection, transmission they said.

3-Test and Vaxx the vulnerable they said.

4-Vaxxing 70% of the vulnerables will allow normality they promised.

5-Now: to travel, to work, to go to the toilet you must be vaccinated and wear your useless, stupid, idiotic face diaper for at least 1 year…..

What a load of fascist horse shit. 80% of the sheeple apparently applaud, bleat more more more, according to the Fake Polls. Fake data, Fake Dead counts. Fake Pandemic. Flock Off already.

Wake up.

411364 PatrickF, replying to PatrickF, 8, #624 of 2096 🔗

The vaccinated master race is here. For the rest of us it’s the Gulags until we’ve been re-educated.

412036 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to PatrickF, #625 of 2096 🔗

But we’ve been pre-warned by Mr Solzhenitsyn !

Sharpen those billhooks, oil those cricket bats, and let’s see how up for it the snatch squads are.

411370 Nobody2021, 9, #626 of 2096 🔗

The vaccine passports make me think of a man who’s wife has just caught him with his mistress.

“It just kinda happened”

411371 PatrickF, replying to PatrickF, 13, #627 of 2096 🔗

I’ve just seen a global id card. It reads “I’m a cunt.”

411460 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to PatrickF, 5, #628 of 2096 🔗

That’s mine, where did you find it?

411378 alw, replying to alw, 10, #629 of 2096 🔗

Please sign this petition against Vaccine passports. Share far and wide.

411389 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to alw, 4, #630 of 2096 🔗

That one is gaining some serious traction – the government won’t be able to ignore that. You can actually watch the numbers ticking up. Excellent. 🙂

411395 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to this is my username, 4, #631 of 2096 🔗

The Government will absolutely be able to ignore
pay attention

411459 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to this is my username, 7, #632 of 2096 🔗

the government won’t be able to ignore that.


411412 ▶▶ TJN, replying to alw, #633 of 2096 🔗

Signed it, but wasn’t there a very similar petition a few weeks ago, which was debated in ‘Parliament’?

411421 ▶▶ Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to alw, 2, #634 of 2096 🔗

The petition committee has been suspended, so this will achieve fuck all.

411427 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to alw, 1, #635 of 2096 🔗

I’ve signed it for what good it’ll do. Now they know my name and post code it’ll be easier to cart me off to the detention centres for reeducation.

412029 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Andrew K, #636 of 2096 🔗

I always use Her Maj’s – SW1A 1AA

411441 ▶▶ BTLnewbie, replying to alw, 2, #637 of 2096 🔗

Signed (but to little effect). I look forward to meeting Andrew K in the re-education centre!

412394 ▶▶ Cat Woman, replying to alw, #638 of 2096 🔗

Up to 89,700 moments ago…

411381 norwegian, replying to norwegian, 17, #639 of 2096 🔗

I accept that the west is in for harder times with regards to less of many things but I do not accept a future a la Scam-19. Problem is, if most people accept such shite the shite will be forced on me. Not having that, I’m joining the resistance, no surrender!

411413 ▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to norwegian, 2, #640 of 2096 🔗

Yes, agreed.

411382 alw, 3, #641 of 2096 🔗

Good to hear that Great Barrington Facebook page up and running again. No exclamation as to why it was removed.

411383 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 22, #642 of 2096 🔗

Unless there is resistance we are headed for full on totalitarianism.

411392 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Londo Mollari, 13, #643 of 2096 🔗

Fascism is always inplemented incrementally. Piece by piece. Changing messaging. Changed objectives. Nazis and Commies used ‘science’ to impress the Sheeple and get compliance. There is no science to the Covidian cult, just fascism.

412636 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Londo Mollari, #644 of 2096 🔗

Indeed, and one opportunity will be at the Great Reopening, which I believe is scheduled for 20th March.

Yesterday someone posted this link. Catherine Austin Fitts points out what is needed for the oligarchs to fail.

Planet Lockdown | Catherine Austin Fitts (Full Interview) (rumble.com)

411388 BeBopRockSteady, 6, #645 of 2096 🔗


How the Oxford Stringency Index tried to undermine the Swedish success, trying to show they did lockdown. Ends up chasing its own tail because it pushed other less stringent countries into the control(Finland) and they had even less deaths.

411396 leicestersq, replying to leicestersq, 15, #646 of 2096 🔗

Now we know that when Matt Hancock used the weasel words of ‘no plans for vaccine passports’ he straight out lied to us. This is going to give him very bad Karma indeed.

Does anyone trust him at this point?

And what are these passports for exactly? They are of no use to anyone worried about Covid because as we know, vaccines do not stop the spread of Covid. If the vaccines worked, you could simply avoid Covid by taking the vaccine yourself. The only people left vulnerable to Covid would be those who choose not to take the vaccine, a risk that those people are happy to accept.

That leaves us as Sherlock Holmes would say, with just one reason for vaccine passports. And that is to coerce us into taking them, just as the conspiracy theorists have said. And why would they do this? Clearly the vaccine doesnt do the good it is supposed to do, it cannot stand up on its own merits. The question then is just how bad is it?

411400 ▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to leicestersq, 8, #647 of 2096 🔗

Internal passports a la Soviet Union.

411405 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to leicestersq, 4, #648 of 2096 🔗

As its a global plan, this country can’t stop them if people need them to travel, trouble is, things don’t stop there, Blair, still sticking his oar in, has always wanted ID for everyone.

411411 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to DanClarke, 2, #649 of 2096 🔗

Is it a global pan or a western one? There seems to be doubt about Russia going down that road. Too much collective memory of the USSR.

411420 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to leicestersq, 12, #650 of 2096 🔗

He is currently top of my shit list. The little runt is a maniac.

Exactly, the vaccine doesn’t stop spreading the virus so why the effing passport. I am seriously beginning to think there must be some shit in the vaccine to try to persuade people to take it. More money for Big Pharma? To eventually cull the population? I am way open to theories at this stage

411665 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Ganjan21, 2, #651 of 2096 🔗

Aren’t we all?
All, that is, except for an elderly rellie of mine, who is DETERMINED to accept the jab (next week) and won’t brook any argument whatsoever. I’m not even sure what he expects to gain from it. He knows now it won’t ”allow” him to travel (as there’s nowhere we’re ”allowed” to go) and he isn’t afraid of catching the Coercid either. Perhaps there’s some misguided sense that he’s doing it for the well-being of the community – I don’t know. I’ll just keep plugging the vitamin D and zinc advice. There doesn’t seem much more to do. I’m worried though.

411900 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Ganjan21, #652 of 2096 🔗

well, put it like this: even if you’re not as hardcore as I am, you can at the very least be certain that it’s NOT what it says on the tin: – a vaccine that will prevent the spread of a respiratory virus. If that is the concern, then why was not the flu vaccine similarly mandated? why have there never been ANY mandates for vaccines, even for extremely dangerous diseases such as TB and polio? And why should the government be so concerned about protecting sick and elderly people from being carried off by a respiratory virus? [‘the old man’s friend’]? And why was it rushed through in record time? And why were the usual trial procedures dispensed with? and why were civil indemnities issued? …so many things just don’t add up, it all stinks to high heaven…. I think in my case it is my intuition which is telling me that this is the worst case scenario [ie, genocide] I don’t have any direct evidence for this, but I know from experience that I am very intuitive, and my intuition has seldom or ever been wrong. I hope this is a first.

412538 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to JaneHarry, -1, #653 of 2096 🔗

Given that there are documents showing this to be literally a human experiment gene therapy costed for a few years, I am guessing it is part of some general investigation into how nanotechnologies will be inserted into humans with the eventual hookup to the social credit cloud via 5G.

Once Gates and his friends have worked it all out on the ordinary scum, it will be used on themselves though not as social control but some form of transhumanist improvement. ALso, such improvements will be sold by corporations to those who have the money.

Make no mistake, this is absolutely dystopian: Look up Judy Mikovits ‘Plandemic’ and also Dolores Cahill and others.

411467 ▶▶ RickH, replying to leicestersq, 5, #654 of 2096 🔗

The phrase no plans ‘ is one of the oldest disguises for a lie in the book.

411399 pvenkman, 10, #655 of 2096 🔗

I suspect passports are part of the global plan there is nothing that our government can do about it.

411402 Crystal Decanter, replying to Crystal Decanter, 10, #656 of 2096 🔗

To quote Dr Ian Malcolm
“Life finds a way”
We will find a way around the jab certificates
The Government is inherently incompetent

411443 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Crystal Decanter, 9, #657 of 2096 🔗

A poster mentioned here before of a potential way around it……… when you get a call from your GP to get jabbed, tell them you have already had it at a vaccination tent somewhere and why were they not informed? Insist you have had the vaccine and its a disgrace they haven’t passed the information on to your GP and demand it goes on your record for you to obtain the passport. Not sure how it would work but hey, worth a try.

411492 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Ganjan21, 6, #658 of 2096 🔗

Government incompetence is our friend

412007 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Ganjan21, #659 of 2096 🔗

Like the way you think ! 🙂

412540 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Ganjan21, #660 of 2096 🔗

And the next time, and the next time ( I mean the booster jabs etc )

So it is just a short-term thing.

411445 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to Crystal Decanter, 2, #661 of 2096 🔗

Be that as it may, border officers in France, Germany and pretty much any other country are inflexible and brook no debate.

While what you say is true, it’s basically beside the point.

411450 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to AidanR, 5, #662 of 2096 🔗

For me personally, it’s not a problem. I’m of an age and disposition where I’ve done enough travelling, seen plenty of the world, can take or leave foreign holidays, and am unlikely to need to travel for work. So I don’t see not being able to cross borders as a particularly big deal.

But it’s a fiendishly effective way to force young people to comply.

And that’s before they start to require it routinely for domestic activities.

411507 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Mark, 2, #663 of 2096 🔗

Also bear in mind the millions of people in this country with close relatives abroad.

411648 ▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Julian, #664 of 2096 🔗

Since I have one (adult) offspring in Spain and one in Singapore, I recognise that situation…

412545 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Julian, #665 of 2096 🔗

I told my mother last year that she should have come to England to see her grandchildren as they would be closing the border or making it so expensive. Of course, she thought and thinks I am a conspiracy theorist ( I am yet to send her videos etc ) so said she didn’t want to do the isolation, fair enough, in the house, even though they have a garden etc.

411630 ▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Mark, 1, #666 of 2096 🔗

We’re in the same boat…

While I’m grateful to have seized the day and done the travel and whatnot, it’s never occured to me to say ‘well, doesn’t affect me so it’s fine’.

I’m not saying you have, but it’s a rationalisation I’ve seen a lot from people in general.

411651 ▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to AidanR, #667 of 2096 🔗

Yes, absolutely. It’s wrong and must be fought.

412549 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Mark, -1, #668 of 2096 🔗

I tell you honestly if I am stuck in the UK forever, I will kill myself.

I HATE this country. I love France.

412700 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to FedupofLies, #669 of 2096 🔗

De gustibus non est disputandum, I suppose. Each to his own. But you probably should have bailed out across the border before the end of the year, if that was your view.

Personally my suspicion is that while we will have our own problems, they are nothing to what Europe will be facing as the EU superstate project caves in on its rotten foundations.

412548 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to AidanR, #670 of 2096 🔗

The days of young people travelling to Morocco or whatever on a limited budget are OVER.

The climatology fanatics will ensure that. And millennials and z support these fanatics and would rather sit in their houses watching netflicks or some ‘influencer’ garbage anyway.

412013 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to AidanR, 1, #671 of 2096 🔗

Outside Western Europe, a $100 bill will continue to work wonders.

411409 katz, replying to katz, 20, #672 of 2096 🔗

I see that China has banned the BBC due to it broadcasting “fake news”. Nice to hear that a world power has taken heed of what happened in my house last Summer and has followed my example.

411521 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to katz, #673 of 2096 🔗


411876 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to katz, #674 of 2096 🔗

yes, why don’t we copy China’s better ideas?

412552 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to JaneHarry, #675 of 2096 🔗

I NEVER blame China for any of this. China is China.

It is ENTIRELY the fault of Westerners.

411410 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 4, #676 of 2096 🔗

I’ve just been sent a link from a friend in NZ. It’s an excellent site, and here’s one of the articles:

There’s a PDF file you can download for a positive message to share with others: ”The day the people stood up”…..

411517 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Banjones, 2, #677 of 2096 🔗

Great link.

Yes these supplements really do work

Number 1: Vitamin D , get your levels up, and you can also ask your doctor to test your levels, a very easy blood test.

Number 2: Vitamin C , we know it’s working well. There have been some studies on COVID where vitamin C has shown to have very good benefits in the outcome of an illness.

Number 3: Zinc stops viral replication multiple ways, so it prevents the virus from hijacking your DNA, prevents the virus from replicating. It also prevents the virus from entering the cell, so zinc is very important right now .

Number 4: Quercetin , which is what’s called a natural bioflavonoid. Quercetin opens up the cells in your body so that zinc can get inside your cells, where it works. So think of quercetin as the key. Think of zinc as the repairman, that is allowed into the house, so-to-speak,” says Dr. Osborne.

Note Quercetin plays a similar role as HCQ – helping the Zinc getting into the cell

411635 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Victoria, #678 of 2096 🔗


411416 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 15, #679 of 2096 🔗

The ATL article from Canada describing covid as three times worse than seasonal flu is actually a very story.
With all the efforts of the worldwide ‘mafia’ involved in this scam, they can only get this result.
As the excellent letter from the retired GP in ATL described so lucidly, the ‘mafia’ has been doing its level best to deny all sufferers of this coronavirus from having any of the increasingly vast array of drugs/medicines that would relieve symptoms enormously if allowed to be given.
Yet despite this they can only get it up to 3 times worse than seasonal flu! And in many areas of the world nowhere near these levels.
Early use of such as HCQ, zinc, ivermectin, vit D, asthma inhalers, even vicks nasal spray would have reduced hospitalisations to normal flu numbers or below.
It was and is a deliberate attempt to inflate numbers that has caused problems.

411429 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to peyrole, 13, #680 of 2096 🔗

Canada-stan is full on retard for CV Fascism. This article is a joke.
Death from the normal flu for the over 80s is about 2%.
Death from CV 19 for the over 80s is about 5-6%.
Hence the 3x greater risk.
If under 60 there is little risk dying from either.
As usual the Covidiot cult plays with numbers, no context, no reality, no even handedness in discussing the data.
The article headline gives the impression that all people are 3x more likely to die from CV. Factually this is a lie.

411453 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to FerdIII, 5, #681 of 2096 🔗

Flu is more of a risk to under 40s than Covid. Covid is a gerryatric disease primarily.

412005 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to FerdIII, #682 of 2096 🔗

Death from CV 19 for the over 80s is about 5-6%.

Wow, different to most of the stats I’ve seen. Evidence ?

411419 Basics, 3, #683 of 2096 🔗

Care Home Relatives Scotland.

Bringing together people who have loved ones in nursing/residential homes & have been locked out for 10months. Email chrscotland@gmail.com find us on Facebook



Campaigning group working to return relatives to care homes. Critical for good care.

411435 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 31, #684 of 2096 🔗

Did you previously wonder what it would be like if Extinction Rebellion ran the county?

Well you know now

411538 ▶▶ concrete68, replying to Cecil B, 8, #685 of 2096 🔗

I often wondered what it would be like if we elected a fat lying bastard on the basis he was a cheery fat lying bastard. Well now I know.

411569 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to concrete68, 1, #686 of 2096 🔗

Well now I know .”

Indeed. We know it’s much the same as if we’d put a bearded lying “zero covid” “herd immunity is eugenics” bastard in office.

411643 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Mark, #687 of 2096 🔗

Yes plague on all the bastard’s houses…I thought they both looked shit in the GE campaign anyway…especially Johnson…what a cretin.

411686 ▶▶▶▶ concrete68, replying to Mark, #688 of 2096 🔗

The difference between knowing and believing. That’s what got us in this place.

411781 ▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to concrete68, #689 of 2096 🔗

Oh, you want to preserve your illusion that “zero covid” Corbyn in office, surrounded by Labour panickers, would have done something entirely different from what he was pushing the government to do?

Understandable, I suppose, but not particularly useful if you want to address the real world.

411608 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Cecil B, #690 of 2096 🔗

Spot on and I think we know whose driving this!

411690 ▶▶▶ concrete68, replying to Bella Donna, 1, #691 of 2096 🔗

Spot on meaning “yes I don’t like climactic activism so pretend this is something to do with them rather than face reality “?

411439 Jolly Green Giant, replying to Jolly Green Giant, 26, #692 of 2096 🔗

Once the government starts flatly denying that there are any plans for covid passports, you can bet your pension that they are coming. It’s like that article says though, the scheme will start small (holidays only) then gradually be expanded until in encompasses pretty much anything else essential to everyday living … work, shopping, pubs, restaurants, gigs, cinemas etc. etc.

So much for vaccines being the “road back to normal”. Coronavirus has a 99.5% survival rate anyway. Even without the vaccines (for argument’s sake I’m assuming here that they work as advertised). Once they’ve been fully rolled out, the death rate will be so tiny as to be barely noticable.

Anyone who still thinks that all this is about “controlling the virus” is an idiot.

411455 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Jolly Green Giant, 2, #693 of 2096 🔗

Obviously, international pressure has been a key factor in all this vaccine passport nonsense, as the boys and girls in the gang polish their self-importance ahead of the interests of the populace.

One fascinating aspect of Covid baloney is that our Brexit government has been far more susceptible to this than non-Swexit Sweden, who managed to hang on much longer, despite recent concessions.

411498 ▶▶▶ Mike, replying to RickH, 1, #694 of 2096 🔗

I get the impression that the government in Sweden won’t have to try so hard to convince people to get micro chipped etc. No need then for the strong arm tactics..

412015 ▶▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Mike, #695 of 2096 🔗

Yes. saw a mini film on them a while ago (pre-2020) but it certainly appeared as though large portions of the population lived via microchip – one guy had one in his arm for work ID, another in his hand for something else (cash?). Got the impression it was something they were very far along with, in the main.

411647 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to RickH, #696 of 2096 🔗

‘Swexit’! Sounds good that lol.

411464 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Jolly Green Giant, 9, #697 of 2096 🔗

Once the principle of a Covid passport is established it won’t be long before it is expanded to include other things like booster vaccines, vaccines for other illness and vaccines for whatever the next new virus is that appears over the next few years. It could then easily morph into a form of ID card and anyone who displeases the state in someway will have their “passport” removed or restricted thus essentially excluding them from society. Of course as with all these things the real criminals will find a way around it by purchasing a “passport” on the black market.

412001 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to smithey, #698 of 2096 🔗

The real criminals will be happy to sell to the rest of us, too. 🙂

411451 BertieFox, replying to BertieFox, #699 of 2096 🔗

Has anyone heard of a group called Covid19 Assembly?

411524 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to BertieFox, #700 of 2096 🔗

Yes. They’ve been mentioned on here a few times.

411604 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to BertieFox, #701 of 2096 🔗

What is it?

411452 Maverick, replying to Maverick, 3, #702 of 2096 🔗

To provide some hope to those who are suffering through this shitshow, does anyone have a possible, positive scenario to how this all ends?

411456 ▶▶ katz, replying to Maverick, 3, #703 of 2096 🔗

That’s a tough question. Did you used to work as an A Level exam setter in the olden days when A Levels were the ‘gold standard’ of educational echievement?

411471 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Maverick, 11, #704 of 2096 🔗

The only route out of this is mass non-compliance. Every act of defiance is a victory. Each act of non-compliance potentially encourages others. It is not predictable, but any one of those acts could inspire a mass revolt, much like Rosa Parks’ act of defiance on a bus inspired the civil rights movement.

411601 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #705 of 2096 🔗

I agree.

411649 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Steve Hayes, 3, #706 of 2096 🔗

No Steve haven’t you heard? It will be resolved by us all writing to our MPs!!!

411861 ▶▶▶ Sampa, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #707 of 2096 🔗

And who will be the Rosa Parks of the LS movement? It’s got to be someone with the right “image”. Toby Young? Piers Corbyn?

Rosa Parks was the carefully selected public face of the protest, and was already a member of the civil rights movement when she was arrested. She wasn’t the first to defy to the segregation laws, Claudette Colvin was. Three other women were also arrested for the same offence before Rosa Parks, but they didn’t have the right “profile” to be the standard bearer the protest.

I agree that non-compliance is the way forward, but hiding your exempt lanyard in Tesco so you can have a pop at the minimum wage, zero-hour staff member at the entrance is not it. It might make you feel big and rebellious but your actions may have cost some poor twat their job. Writing to your MP is another pointless activity, they don’t have any say on anything, especially if it’s one of Starmer’s mob.

We are seeing some acts of non-compliance, those who refuse to close their business in that face of police intervention are in the forefront. Support them, in person if possible, financially if not. They are the folks who will lead the way out of the shitstorm.

411924 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Sampa, 2, #708 of 2096 🔗

I do not have an exempt lanyard nor do I have pops at minimum wage zero hour members of staff. I have no idea why you are making such accusations.

411996 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Steve Hayes, 2, #709 of 2096 🔗

No lanyard either.

Though I will take a pop if one is thrown at me first.

412501 ▶▶▶▶▶ Sampa, replying to Steve Hayes, #710 of 2096 🔗

Sorry Steve, that was a general observation on the level of non-compliance and not a criticism of you in particular. Confronting minions won’t change anything, non-compliance has to get the attention of those in power.

411479 ▶▶ pvenkman, replying to Maverick, 3, #711 of 2096 🔗

Seasonal variations mean cases dwindle to tiny amounts government can’t find any more cases people demand to be let out and come winter herd immunity is reached and it’s forgotten about.

411522 ▶▶ Jonny S., replying to Maverick, #712 of 2096 🔗

As with all who have gone before. Death.

411723 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Maverick, #713 of 2096 🔗


412003 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Maverick, #714 of 2096 🔗

Not me. Mad Max or 1984 seem to be the only options on the table.

411458 RickH, replying to RickH, 6, #716 of 2096 🔗

The article on obesity may be correct re. its role in morbidity.

But we could do without alternative health fascism, thank you very much.

The only value of the article is as yet another illustration of what not to do in public health

411477 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to RickH, 2, #717 of 2096 🔗

Pray tell what do you think of Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposal ?

411583 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #718 of 2096 🔗

Proper satire. Private Eye wouldn’t touch it with a ten-foot pole if it were published today. And its influence lives on even today, as Matthew Brittain ATL may or may not be aware.

411505 ▶▶ Julian, replying to RickH, 1, #719 of 2096 🔗

Totally agree. I suppose encouraging people not to be obese could be helpful, but as we’ve seen it’s a slippery slope into micromanaging people’s lives and worse.

411518 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to RickH, 3, #720 of 2096 🔗

It’s satire. Designed to show the circular logic of zero Covid type fanaticism.

411523 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, 2, #721 of 2096 🔗

I think there’s debate to be had on causes of obesity, if it were a free & fair debate I suspect we’d find its what people eat, not how much.

Processed food high in carbs & sugar! Is the number one cause & yet liberal lefties continue to push this vegetarian nonsense only promoting corporate profit.

Grass seed isn’t a biologically appropriate diet. Throughout our evolution vegetables only made a small part of our diet.

411530 ▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #722 of 2096 🔗

That last assertion isn’t true – our nearest relatives in the animal kingdom are vegetarians.

411596 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to bluemoon, #723 of 2096 🔗

Did they invent fire & hunt woolly mammoth? You have heard of evolution? And do you know Chimps hunt monkeys, eat insects & eggs, some even hunt small mammals with weapons, spears to impale rodents etc in holes. Chimps have even been known to catch & eat human babies. Baboons hunt & are effective scavengers of carcases, baboons are omnivores. Our evolution is probably more like that of baboons than any other species. Gorilla essentially eat herbs.

411660 ▶▶▶▶▶ kate, replying to Anti_socialist, #724 of 2096 🔗

The human gut is much shorter than the chimp. If we ate our food raw we would starve in six months. We have an “external stomach” the cooking pot!
Ever since we became human, however that occurred, we have been dependent on technology to survive.

411684 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to kate, #725 of 2096 🔗

Yep its called evolution. Its why we invented fire & ground roots, but humans are quite capable of digesting raw meat (cant say the same for grains) , highly likely cooking meat helped increase available resources by killing pathogens in rancid meat.

411672 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Mark, #727 of 2096 🔗

In evolutionary terms its irrelevant what or who our closest relatives are anyway, that’s the function of evolution to exploit new niches of a changing environment. Homo sapiens ecological success would have been impossible, if we didn’t evolve to eat meat. We may have started off eating leaves but we’ve travelled along way since we lived in trees.

411985 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Anti_socialist, #728 of 2096 🔗

I’ve never lived in trees. Is there proof any of my ancestors did ?

411693 ▶▶▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Mark, #729 of 2096 🔗

Orang utans and gorillas.

411712 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to bluemoon, #730 of 2096 🔗

What about them?

Are you disputing humans eat meat?

When did we first start eating grass seed? There’s little nutrion in wheat.

411557 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Anti_socialist, #731 of 2096 🔗

liberal lefties …”

Do leave your obsessions behind. They just get tediously in the way of serious debate.

411573 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, #732 of 2096 🔗

Of course comrade, you’d know all about that.

411653 ▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Anti_socialist, #733 of 2096 🔗

Play nicely children!

411702 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Boris Bullshit, -1, #734 of 2096 🔗

The time for nice has past, the leftist, neo-liberal puppets are destroying us & our culture, it may already to late.

The naive belief that politics & modern life can be separated is delusional or dishonest but a typical tactic of socialists to dismiss opposing opinions.

411782 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Anti_socialist, #735 of 2096 🔗

I agree I was joking.

411711 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Anti_socialist, #736 of 2096 🔗

obesity is a metabolic disease – contrary to widespread opinion it’s not ‘a lifestyle choice’ ; and yes, it is a metabolic disease which is essentially caused by ingesting ‘poison’ – foods that the obese person’s body was not designed to process, and can not handle, and therefore cause it to malfunction, and become sick. People who are not obese are in many cases simply luckier: they handle this poison better, it does not affect them in the same way. The good news is that obesity can be managed, brought under control, but the bad news is, it’s far from easy or pain free, and requires a lifetime of constant vigilance.

411728 ▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to JaneHarry, #737 of 2096 🔗

Whilst that maybe true – for some
Portion control is also an issue – for some

411811 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to JaneHarry, #738 of 2096 🔗

Its called agro-chem corporate profit & globalism. The simple fact is self indulgent comfortable lifestyles with an overabundance of high carb, high sugar processed food are to blame & some people aren’t as naturally (genetically) disciplined as others.. There are plenty of unhealthy skinny people, i don’t automatically buy into the liberal left corporate scienctism of fat bad. Its mostly about what not how much that causes poor health.

412166 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to Anti_socialist, #739 of 2096 🔗

you telling me that Barry Pieface doesnt have a good diet????

411461 PatrickF, replying to PatrickF, 8, #740 of 2096 🔗

We’re all vaccinated. Does that mean all our freedoms are restored? Of course not.

411472 ▶▶ smithey, replying to PatrickF, 7, #741 of 2096 🔗

You won’t be getting those back I am afraid. We are now living in a totalitarian dictatorship. Better get used to it and forget about holidays, seeing friends or having any enjoyment. Trying to plan any of those things is now as futile as planning a trip to Jupiter.

411658 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to smithey, 1, #742 of 2096 🔗

Sadly Smithey I think you are right. The sheep think otherwise though…they think one more heave together and we are back to freedom!

411978 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to smithey, #743 of 2096 🔗

forget about holidays, seeing friends or having any enjoyment.

You have stopped seeing friends and enjoying life ? Seriously ?

411466 alw, replying to alw, 8, #744 of 2096 🔗

‘Right from the start, the “stay home, protect NHS, save lives” messaging was completely drilled into the minds of the UK population,’ he said. ‘Britons have been terrified by what I can only describe as government propaganda. I think this collective fear, along with British politeness, is what’s preventing initiatives like this from taking off.
‘Britain has ceased to be a free country and we must do everything in our power to get our freedoms back. Is it right to comply with laws which are so damaging and wrong? If enough businesses are to take a stand and open, the rules would have to change, as they have done in other countries.’


411496 ▶▶ smithey, replying to alw, 12, #745 of 2096 🔗

But I am afraid 90% of the population do not want their freedoms. They have an infantile mentality and want the government to look after them and do their thinking for them. Most people are content to live like an animal in a zoo, looked after but not free.

411501 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to smithey, 8, #746 of 2096 🔗

Nothing like 90% I am 100% sure of that. A substantial minority are as you describe but many others believed the vaccine would get us out of this and will be furious when it doesn’t. We have to hope that fury is turned in the right direction.

411513 ▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Julian, 3, #747 of 2096 🔗

I hope you are correct but my worry is they will all swallow whatever excuse the government comes up with for keeping us locked up.

411559 ▶▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Julian, #748 of 2096 🔗

I get the impression that many would like to rebel but are either too afraid of the peer pressure or don’t know how to rebel.

411670 ▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Richy_m_99, 1, #749 of 2096 🔗

What is this peer pressure? Maybe I am strange but have never cared a jot what my peers think…I make up my own mind and to hell with them if they cant handle it. Maybe thats why we are on this site and most people are not.

411783 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Boris Bullshit, #750 of 2096 🔗

You are in a minority then. Most people are terrified of not fitting in so go along with whatever their peers think/do, just like sheep really.

411779 ▶▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Richy_m_99, #751 of 2096 🔗

Just like in all other totalitarian regimes throughout history.

411598 ▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Julian, 2, #752 of 2096 🔗

That is my hope. So many have gone along with the covid jab because they thought it would free us from this nightmare, when they learn it was for all for nothing that just might light the blue paper. We can only hope!

411725 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Bella Donna, 2, #753 of 2096 🔗


This is SICK and you are JUST AS BAD AS THEM.


411724 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Julian, 4, #754 of 2096 🔗

I am afraid they will simply blame those who refused it.

Unless you intend to take the experimental gene therapy.

The most important moral task now is to make sure it is NEVER mandatory for children.

411664 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to smithey, #755 of 2096 🔗

Wow what a great way of putting it! Wish I had thought of that…hope you dont mind me using that one with the sheep.

411787 ▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Boris Bullshit, 1, #756 of 2096 🔗

Please do. If it helps to bring just one person round then I will be glad to have helped.

411468 PatrickF, 9, #757 of 2096 🔗

The Government promises to lie to you. That’s the truth.

411469 bobdavies123, replying to bobdavies123, 8, #758 of 2096 🔗

Great article by the undergraduate mathematician, extremely well written. ICL SAGE members are clearly doing far more harm than good, and our government is too feeble and too naive to realise it.

411474 ▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to bobdavies123, 13, #759 of 2096 🔗

They realise it, everything is going to plan..

411473 alw, replying to alw, 14, #760 of 2096 🔗

Ten days ago, I was expelled from my Chambers after 30 years of unblemished practice at the Bar. My expulsion shows that it is now impossible to practise as a barrister whilst expressing conservative and populist opinions. If you are content with this state of affairs then the public should know that the Bar has become a profession for those who either hold left-wing politics or who do not publicly challenge them. If, on the other hand, you believe there is a place at the Bar for those who are prepared to challenge Guardian -reading liberals, then I look forward to receiving your response to this letter.”


411481 ▶▶ smithey, replying to alw, 7, #761 of 2096 🔗

Yet more proof that the hard left have infiltrated the nations institutions and gained power by stealth. We have to accept that we are now living in a totalitarian state akin to 20th century East Germany.

411739 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to smithey, 2, #762 of 2096 🔗

Irrespective of whether we have a so called conservative party elected, this is the far left operating within so many organisations. If you look at the last couple of years brexit was voted for, Trump was elected, the tories won another election and more centre right parties gained traction in many countries, this went against all the left woke narrative on social media and in the MSM. So instead of using democracy to win they have just decided to change things and over ride democracy. Facism and communism form a circle eventually and become the same thing, an elite ruling the little people and the removal of liberty and free speech.

411546 ▶▶ Mark, replying to alw, 7, #763 of 2096 🔗

Exclusion from legal practice for offending woke leftist opinion, banks refusing basic services to Gab for offending woke leftist opinion, Amazon web services denying basic server provision to Parler for offending woke leftist opinion.

Core establishment institutions and the very biggest of corporate big money operating to enforce an explicitly left-wing partisan political agenda .

we have to turn down the capability of these conservative influencers to reach these huge audiences

Yet liars and delusionals still try to claim there’s some kind of “right wing” elite that’s meaningfully in charge!

Bear this in mind, the next time one of the liars here pretends it’s a “right wing” agenda that’s running the show.

411716 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Mark, 1, #764 of 2096 🔗

Neo Liberalism isn’t Left wing per say
They just think they are

411615 ▶▶ dhid, replying to alw, 1, #765 of 2096 🔗

That is profoundly disturbing.

If the legal profession follows the general state of infestation by the intolerant left everywhere else in important areas of life, we really are screwed.

411633 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to dhid, 2, #766 of 2096 🔗

If they keep pushing and suppressing legal avenues for the expression of dissent, the only way out will be violence. And of course, that’s what they are preparing for in the US with plans for a new “war on terror” targeting “white supremacists” [dissenters from pc dogma], “bigots” [conservatives], and “religious fanatics” [Christians].

The useful idiots on the left just want to silence opinions they hate. The hardliners on the left want to provoke violence so that they can have a real crackdown and bring to bear all the resources of the security state against their political enemies.

That way lies reeducation camps and civil war. It’s by no means the implausibly remote possibility it once was.

411667 ▶▶▶▶ dhid, replying to Mark, 2, #767 of 2096 🔗

The current state of affairs is certainly becoming increasingly disturbing, however I try to look at them.

The present incumbent of the White House is a big concern.

411768 ▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to dhid, 2, #768 of 2096 🔗

Though not particularly for himself, but for the attitudes and people surrounding him. He’s just a corrupt old fart who will most likely be fairly quickly sidelined.

The really significant thing is the anti-democratic attitude of the left elites as it was displayed in their response to the backlash against their policies, that manifested in support for Donald Trump. VDH summed it up as well as I’ve seen it put recently:

“I t’s tragic that this country is at this place right now, because it didn’t have to be this way. They could have said Donald Trump represented a lost constituency that … globalised culture had ignored in a very amoral fashion and that was an understandable pushback, but the way to beat Donald Trump is to appeal to his voters in the way that the Democratic Party used to do, and win them back. They didn’t do that. They didn’t do that because they wanted open borders, and they’re tribalists that believe in identity politics, and they don’t care about people of the working class any more, and they feel that their money and their power and their titles and their degrees have allowed them to be an unquestioned elite. Sort of Platonic Guardians that we … don’t dare question .”


The leftists poohpoohed the idea of a backlash, until it arrived in the form of Trump, then instead of learning from it they went hysterical and used every dirty, big money trick in the book to overturn it, and doubled down on imposing their agenda by force.

As a result, there will be another backlash, and the longer and harder they suppress it, the more devastating it will be.

411915 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Mark, 1, #769 of 2096 🔗

The people who prioritised the 2nd Amendment were Divinely inspired.

411975 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to JohnB, #770 of 2096 🔗

If it comes to that, it will save them a lot of time and blood of martyrs that we will,have to expend to catch up with them.

412308 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Mark, #771 of 2096 🔗

I’m an advocate of facilitating martyrdom on the other side. 🙂 But yes, agreed.

411482 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 9, #772 of 2096 🔗

Is there any news on the brave cafe owners in Manchester? Sorry, been offline due to yet more rank incompetence by my internet provider (who the hell rolls out a transfer from copper to fibre without first testing it – grrrr). Anyway, any further info’ gratefully received.

411526 ▶▶ Mark, replying to kh1485, 11, #773 of 2096 🔗

Fund is up to £17k. Last I heard (yesterday), they’d been to court to try to overturn the 48 hours closure order and lost, and they are planning to reopen next week.

Presumably making plans for how to deal with the inevitable repeated closure orders and harassment.

I’ll be spending money in their cafe any chance I get, and leaving good tips, though it’s 30-odd miles away so I can’t be there every day. Miriam and Alan of this parish have also said they are up for dropping in there.

We’ll do what we can.

411537 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Mark, 4, #774 of 2096 🔗

Thanks Mark, that’s good to hear. There was some report on twitter saying that they were closed until May. Glad to read that’s not the case.

411550 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to kh1485, 2, #775 of 2096 🔗

Remember I’m not on the spot and have no direct link,so there’s no guarantee my info’s up to date. That’s just the last I heard about it.

411588 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Mark, 1, #776 of 2096 🔗

Don’t expect any justice in this country. The only way we can make a change is by mass rebellion, we have the numbers we just need to orchestrate ourselves.

411600 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Bella Donna, 1, #777 of 2096 🔗

I agree with the former. On the latter (having the numbers), that remains to be seen.

411637 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to kh1485, 2, #778 of 2096 🔗

There was a picture of a giant sign attached to the railings directly outside the cafe from teh local council saying that this cafe has been ordered to close under section blah blah blah. My first thoughts were the painting of star of David on jewish doors and businesses

411486 pvenkman, replying to pvenkman, 8, #779 of 2096 🔗

positive tests and cases are falling and the government seems to get only more negative.

411488 ▶▶ Mike, replying to pvenkman, 9, #780 of 2096 🔗

They can’t allow the fear to subside before the sheep have had the jab…

411495 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Mike, 15, #781 of 2096 🔗

I think it’s worse than that. I think at last count 12 million had been jabbed, possibly more now. If they wanted a way out they would have taken it, but they are either in grip of SAGE or Dr No or their own power crazed madness. I think we have to assume there’s no way this is going to end unless the people rebel en masse.

411508 ▶▶▶▶ pvenkman, replying to Julian, 3, #782 of 2096 🔗

A part of me wonders if that’s the only way out for the government mass rebellion like Italy. Otherwise the vocal minority will be screaming about how they are murders

411564 ▶▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to pvenkman, 5, #783 of 2096 🔗

No, I think they have easily enough control of the narrative to declare victory under cover of the vaccine, use LFTs, reduce PCR cycles

411574 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Mike, 2, #784 of 2096 🔗

This particular 🐑 isn’t having the jab.

411533 ▶▶ Will, replying to pvenkman, 8, #785 of 2096 🔗

And lockdown has the square root of FA to do with it. I drove past a primary school yesterday afternoon, it was so busy the lollipop man was seeing all the kids across the road.

411499 mikewaite, 1, #786 of 2096 🔗

Whan that Aprill with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote,
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages,
A modern version of Chaucer’s pilgrims are the attendees at academic conferences opening up as soon as the sidewalks in US cities are free of snow.
Hundreds of conferences in cities across the Northern Hemisphere, attended by folk from nervous PhDs with their first presentations to grey haired professors emeritus .
How will the vaccine passport affect them ?
Will their joint academic influence change political minds here and in Europe ,North America and the Far East , the latter being a major player in academic conferences nowadays.

411549 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #788 of 2096 🔗

Does he still think it is all just one big mistake?

411568 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to jb12, 1, #789 of 2096 🔗

Give me a break, I said usually. He’s not perfect i know but who is?

411754 ▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Anti_socialist, #790 of 2096 🔗

I only asked you a question. He is a rational, seemingly benevolent person, but if he thinks it is all a big mistake, he is part of the problem.

411774 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to jb12, #791 of 2096 🔗

I’m not here to defend anyone, I have no answer for you, listen & make up your own mind or not.

412824 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Anti_socialist, #792 of 2096 🔗

Sure. You stated he makes ‘sense’. But yeah, ok then.

411525 kate, 5, #793 of 2096 🔗
411531 Aslangeo, replying to Aslangeo, 1, #794 of 2096 🔗

This come in my you tube feed – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aKhO3e97ss

Nicola Turdgeon jealous of DUP from 2017

411594 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Aslangeo, 4, #795 of 2096 🔗

She’s jealous of Arlene’s looks and fashion sense

411930 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to DanClarke, 1, #796 of 2096 🔗

That is in the same league as two bald men fighting over a comb.

411541 rockoman, 11, #797 of 2096 🔗

Imagine a botanist who claims to have discovered a new vaiety of peony.

…and yet it has nothing to distinguish it from other peonies.

So, he develops a PCR ‘test’, which which he then claims shows him that there is a certain speck of a particular dust, which only settles on the kind of peony, which he ahs discovered.

But investigators find the dust on pawpaw fruit and on goats.

Other botanists wonder why the total number of peonies in the park is the same as in every year, despite the claim that the new variety in only additional to all of the previous varieties.

411542 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 5, #798 of 2096 🔗

Wisconsin resident doctor has miscarriage days after COVID “vaccine”
The Dr. Sara Beltrán Ponce public miscarriage

Dr. Michael Yeadon is the former Vice President and Chief Scientific Advisor at Pfizer. He and Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed a petition with the European Medicines Agency on December 1, 2020. The petition asks the agency to halt trials for the Pfizer BioNTech BNT162b shot and all other mRNA trials until study designs conform with more universal methods.

One of their concerns involves Syncytin-1. The protein is responsible for placenta development during pregnancy.

Placentas provide oxygen and food to fetuses. They also eliminate waste from the baby. Syncytin-1 is “also found in homologous form in the spike proteins of SARS viruses,” according to the petition. The mRNA shots would thus inhibit or eliminate Syncytin-1, and prevent or obstruct pregnancy.

Further, according to Section 10.4.2 of the Pfizer BioNTech trial protocol , pregnant women or women who may become pregnant should not take the mRNA shots . Section 10.4.1 also warns men taking the mRNA shots to “be abstinent from heterosexual intercourse” and to not donate sperm.

Despite all these clear warnings, people are lining up and getting these shots to conform with social media and mainstream media norms. Medical professionals are not immune to said social pressures.


411655 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Victoria, 3, #799 of 2096 🔗

Site is now offline.

411764 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to GrannySlayer, #800 of 2096 🔗

Oh no its not (its working for me) are you being firewalled?

411881 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to GrannySlayer, #801 of 2096 🔗

Try Dissenter/DuckDuckGo, working here too.

411544 Cumbriacracked, replying to Cumbriacracked, 4, #802 of 2096 🔗

I have posted this before but the idea of a vaccine passport was being discussed in 2018, how convenient how the dates fit.


411894 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Cumbriacracked, #803 of 2096 🔗

I am grateful to you, C. I have been trying to find this document for months! I remember looking at it about nine months ago when a number of statistics jumped out at me.

GPs in all EU Member States were asked to complete a questionnaire regarding their personal perception of the safety of vaccines, generic and specific. The results are summarised within the document you have linked to. This is the specific section that was of interest to me in the context of ‘SARS CoV2’.


Page 11 is a table of flu vaccine uptake for over 65s in EU countries. It is notable that the UK tops the list percentage wise, and there does seem to be a distinct correlation between flu vaccine uptake being highest in the countries that are reporting the most covid deaths.

GPs were asked about their confidence in the safety of the seasonal flu vaccine (page 17). The UK had the highest confidence at 85.4%. Conversely France was 51.8%. A significant difference.

GPs were also asked about confidence in the safety of vaccines generally (page 18). The UK was fifth highest at 89.9%. Out of 28 countries France was 26th at 69.9% and Bulgaria was lowest at 66.3%.

These opinions are based on GPs’ knowledge of existing vaccines, many of which have been in use for decades. It would be interesting to know their corresponding views on the current experimental vaccines.

412348 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Dodderydude, 1, #804 of 2096 🔗

I downloaded the pdf what seems like an eternity ago, presuming it was unlikely to come to anything or it would be deleted, how wrong was I!

I do not believe in coincidences. It is all written as though it is such a simple process, nowhere does it mention if there will be any pushback. I doubt many people in the EU are even aware of the document, considering we were part of the EU when it all was starting to be discussed.

411551 DThom, replying to DThom, 14, #805 of 2096 🔗

We suspect that the dictator is being dictated to by a ‘higher’ power but surely the other 649 of them can do some critical thinking? They can’t all be ‘in on it’?

411556 ▶▶ Julian, replying to DThom, 10, #806 of 2096 🔗

Indeed not

Some probably know it’s bollocks but fear for their jobs or have ambition

Some e.g. Labour are using it for political ends

Some just believe the propaganda – I don’t think there’s much reason to suppose the average MP is somehow immune from being brainwashed or that they have better critical thinking skills than the average person

411773 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Julian, 3, #807 of 2096 🔗

As Vernon Coleman pointed out the other day, you have to ask what sort of ‘grey matter’ David Lammy has as just one example. In a celebrity quiz show (I think from my own memory it may have been Mastermind) he was asked the following:

Q: Surname of famous physicists Marie and Pierre who researched radioactivity?
A: Antoinette
Q: Famous historical prison in Paris….?
A: Versailles
Q: Who acceded to the British throne after Henry VIII?
A: Henry VII

Is it any wonder the country is in the state it is?

411800 ▶▶▶▶ Basics, replying to Dodderydude, 1, #808 of 2096 🔗

You deserve a seat on the Krypton Factor with Gordon Burns for remembering all that jibberish! Well done! Are you good at obstacle courses too?

411857 ▶▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Basics, #809 of 2096 🔗

Simultaneously! 🙂

411860 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Dodderydude, 1, #810 of 2096 🔗

My daughters, who mercifully are not as far-gone as many of their generation, counter this when I draw it to their attention by saying ah yes, but he got into Harvard, didn’t he? Hmm…..conceivably an adverse comment on Harvard’s admission criteria? No, okay then……

411875 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Dodderydude, 1, #811 of 2096 🔗

One of our top barristers/baristas, astonishing, the few I have know have been super smart.

412124 ▶▶▶▶ mj, replying to Dodderydude, 1, #812 of 2096 🔗


he got 8 on his specialist (mohammed ali) and 5 on gk. And in 2014 the questions were harder as like most quizzes in recent year it has been dumbed down

412191 ▶▶▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Dodderydude, 2, #813 of 2096 🔗

But that was from a long time ago, the ‘rewoked’ (sic) questions are:

Q: Surname of famous scientist that beat coronavirus?
A: Ferguson
Q: Famous historical prison in UK?
A: All of it.
Q: Who acceded to the British throne after Boris Johnson?
A: Nobody.

412578 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Julian, #814 of 2096 🔗

If Labour are using it for political ends, they are stupid, because I don’t think there will be any real advantage in time to come in a line of “lockdown harder, harder!”

411561 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to DThom, 9, #815 of 2096 🔗

Anyone who has ever worked in a large organization at a lower level particularly, knows that one of the most important skills , if you want to survive within the organization, is to learn to recognize which way the wind is blowing..

411562 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to DThom, 10, #816 of 2096 🔗

Suspect the dictator isn’t in on it, to be a dictator you have to be willing to be a leader. I’ve long been suspicious of his girlfriends role & who her paymasters are. Follow the money.

411581 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Anti_socialist, #817 of 2096 🔗

A sleeper?

411640 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to DanClarke, 1, #818 of 2096 🔗

Honey trap!

411657 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Anti_socialist, #819 of 2096 🔗

Honey trap in what sense? Come on, nobody cares about adultery anymore.

411675 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #820 of 2096 🔗

In the sense of a handler/controller/minder.

411757 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #821 of 2096 🔗

Feminine charms are a well known de Pfeffel weakness.

411869 ▶▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Anti_socialist, #822 of 2096 🔗

I honestly wouldn’t rule that possibility out.

412558 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Dermot McClatchey, -2, #823 of 2096 🔗

That might explain Chomsky’s disgusting silence as he has a young wife telling him what to do.

Women have a lot to answer for with this.

Mothers have shown themselves to be sadists.

411576 ▶▶ pvenkman, replying to DThom, 3, #824 of 2096 🔗

Many of the other 649 are merely the first level of the useful idiots I suspect at least 600 of them are as out of the loop as the rest of us

411580 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to DThom, 5, #825 of 2096 🔗

Definitely coerced, wonder if blackmail?

411553 Victoria, 5, #826 of 2096 🔗

At least 36 people develop blood disorder and a doctor DIES after receiving mRNA vaccines (Pfizer or Moderna COVID vaccines) – as experts probe potential link between shots and the rare condition

At least 36 cases of thrombocytopenia after COVID-19 vaccination have been reported in the US

One person, a previously healthy Miami doctor aged 56, died of the blood disorder which causes platelet counts to drop, preventing blood from clottinng. Miami obstetrician Dr Gregory Michael, died after thrombocytopenia caused his platelets to drop to virtually zero. He was just 56 and died of a brain hemorrhage just 16 days after receiving Pfizer ‘s shot.

Thrombocytopenia has occurred after other shots, but it is exceedingly rare and not yet clear whether vaccines could cause it


411565 Bella Donna, 8, #827 of 2096 🔗

This government are so crooked they couldn’t lie straight in bed.

411579 nickbowes, replying to nickbowes, 7, #828 of 2096 🔗

Look East dear friends, that is where freedom now lies.

411629 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to nickbowes, #829 of 2096 🔗

I’m wondering if George Orwell had a time machine or met somebody who had traveled back in time. I say this as the west were at war with the east in 1984 so as to get them to toe the line.

411584 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 5, #830 of 2096 🔗

This shows how difficult to think that travel restrictions can stop a respiratory virus.Even a month before the first report in NYC there were multiple sporadic cases pf C-19.Why did it kick only off 1 month later? No herd immunity? Changes in the innate immunity? Favourable climatic conditions? Anybody who think there is an easy answer is misguided.New article.


Before the Surge: Molecular Evidence of SARS-CoV-2 in New York City Prior to the First Report

“Additionally, we detected SARS-CoV-2 RNA in pooled specimens collected in the week ending 25 January 2020, indicating that SARS-CoV-2 caused sporadic infections in NYC a full month before the first officially documented case.”

411797 ▶▶ RickH, replying to swedenborg, #831 of 2096 🔗

Of course, the WHO planning document in 2019 dismissed travel restriction – along with lockdowns, universal test and trace and general masking.

411586 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 11, #832 of 2096 🔗

It is pretty obvious now that they are intent on Genocide

411652 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Cecil B, 6, #833 of 2096 🔗

In terms of its scope this is the greatest Crime Against Humanity.

The major moral issue of our lifetimes.

Where is Chomsky? Where are all the moral figures.

Answer: they were only ever anti-American, NEVER pro-liberty and human dignity. Shame on them. I SPIT on them.

411715 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #834 of 2096 🔗

Chomsky has either lost the plot in his extreme old age or, as you suggest, was always merely anti- American. He critiques the Covid shitshow as yet another example of the failure of neolib capitalism, and has described Trump as the worst criminal in history. Ah, well- don’t follow leaders (watch the parking meters).

411589 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 18, #835 of 2096 🔗

Voluntary informed consent is a fundamental of professional health ethics.

Ethics are rules that exist for the difficult circumstances. Rules are not necessary when the right thing is obvious and easy. The reason for ethical rules is precisely for those situations where the right course of action is unclear and/or difficult.

The coronavirus madness has tested the health care professionals. In order to be admitted to a hospital patients are required to have a test for the virus. If they refuse, they will be denied treatment. This violates the ethical requirement of voluntary informed consent. Doctors and nurses and others have been going along with this ethical breach for months. And because they have been doing it, they have persuaded themselves that the difficult circumstances justify their behaviour.

Months of violating the ethic of voluntary informed consent in respect of the test has prepared the way for the violation of the ethic in respect of the so called vaccines. Health care professionals have persuaded themselves that telling patients that the products are vaccines, are safe, are effective (all at best misleading) is done with apparent sincerity. Persuading patients (an obvious form of pressure) is done with apparent good faith on the rationale that it is necessary given the coronavirus pandemic – an obvious ends justifies means rationale, which is precisely what the ethical duty is designed to make obviously illegitimate.

Health care professionals have shown their (collective) commitment to their ethics is superficial, mere lip service, empty words.

411799 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Steve Hayes, -2, #836 of 2096 🔗

In order to be admitted to a hospital patients are required to have a test for the virus.”

Unlike the government, let’s keep accurate : this is not universally the case.

411848 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to RickH, 2, #837 of 2096 🔗

Perhaps you would like to share the examples you know of doctors and nurses etc refusing to go along with the rule that all patients admitted to hospital have to be tested for the virus? Or the doctors etc who are informing patients that the so called vaccines are not vaccines, have not completed trials and therefore they are not known to be either safe or effective?

411590 Smelly Melly, replying to Smelly Melly, 14, #838 of 2096 🔗

Does anybody know if discarded face masks are classed as biological hazardous waste?

I ask as some of the village do-gooders are proposing a litter pick, “to keep the community sprite alive”. All very noble but I think I may piss on their parade by asking what are they going to do about disposing of the bio-hazard waste?

411603 ▶▶ Andy Riley, replying to Smelly Melly, 2, #839 of 2096 🔗

Well, if they work by trapping contaminated particles from infected people, as we are informed by the pro mask folk, then they must be a bio hazard.
Here’s an opinion from a consultant anesthetist:

411622 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Smelly Melly, 1, #840 of 2096 🔗

At my ex workplace we put them into a separate bin, which got emptied once a week, the bag quarantined for 2 days before putting it into general rubbish to be burned in the county facility.
Does that make it bio-hazard waste/ I do not think so.
Any surgical masks found on the floor went into the general bin.
As usual, it does not make sense.
In your case I would say as they were in the fresh air and rained on, they are not a hazard.

411676 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Smelly Melly, 2, #841 of 2096 🔗

Yes it is hazardous waste.

412101 ▶▶ mj, replying to Smelly Melly, #842 of 2096 🔗

they wont be a hazard but best to wind them up and say they are toxic and whoever picks them up must wear biohazard suits

412638 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to mj, #843 of 2096 🔗

Whoever picks them will need to self-isolate for 10 days. You will come and wave at them through their window as long as it is closed.

411591 kate, replying to kate, 7, #844 of 2096 🔗

Just reposting this from Pebbles here, to keep the subject topical.

Please can everyone send the latest UK Medical Freedom Alliance Brief about vaccines to their MPs, and also to medical correspondents in the media… you can find it on their website in pdf form. It is pushing for an enquiry regarding the side effects. Also distribute to others who are thinking of getting vaccinated. Thank you.

My answer

I have done this and am very glad I did. I also sent it to my local councillor who said he has forwarded it to the local Director of Public Health


411593 Richy_m_99, replying to Richy_m_99, 25, #846 of 2096 🔗

Van Tam says that international freedom of movement won’t be possible until the entire world has been innoculated.

Let’s do the maths shall we. Even if only about half get inniculated, that is close to 4 billion people. Each requires two doses annually and lets say for example the average cost is $15 a shot.

That would be $120 BILLION that world leaders would be handing over to the Pharma giants annually, for something that probably costs dime to manufacture.

That is what is driving this whole shit show.

411609 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Richy_m_99, 3, #847 of 2096 🔗

And then we need to look at the shares in pharma and who have them

411703 ▶▶▶ concrete68, replying to DanClarke, #848 of 2096 🔗

Assuming from comments here it’s Jeremy Corbyn and extinction rebellion?

411663 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Richy_m_99, 8, #849 of 2096 🔗

Info from the manufacturers:

stops neither ‘infection’ nor ‘transmission’

411941 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to rockoman, 2, #850 of 2096 🔗

A logical follow on from masks sold from boxes on which the manufacturers note that they will not stop COVID19 infection.

411767 ▶▶ alw, replying to Richy_m_99, 2, #851 of 2096 🔗

Damnation and Witless have chosen to ignore the oath “Do No Harm.
Why haven’t they been struck off by the GMC?

411793 ▶▶ Basics, replying to Richy_m_99, #852 of 2096 🔗

Papa New Guinea and Amazonian tribes ignored I presume. Do these people have UN special human relic status which keeps circulating humans from making contact?

I recall a BBC ‘adventure’ muppet showing up in a jungle to try and make contact with a ‘lost’ tribe.

One of the tribe chaps appeared out of the under growth with an angular stick for ramming home decisions. The weapon was operated in a feorboding manner.

The BBC muppet even then did not voice recognition of his own stupidity crashing through the jungle and showing up at a tribe who needed nothing and wanted nothing. He did scarper sharpish – bless them they are stupid and don’t know I am a BBC hero.

The encounter stays in my mind because it was a moment of true human defence. This is what we ought to be doing, showing the muppets the strength of our intent as they pose a clear and present danger to our families and ourselves.

411867 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Basics, 1, #853 of 2096 🔗

Watched an excellent film of an explorer returning to make contact with PNG hill tribe after many years. They rushed out of the bush shaking their spears and clubs then collapsed in laughter at the excellent trolling.

411912 ▶▶▶ Sampa, replying to Basics, #854 of 2096 🔗

You’re a bit behind the times. The Amazonian tribes all have top-end phones, cable TV and wi-fi, and at least when the cameras are on them they are muzzled up too. They are also one of the priority vaccination groups here in Brazil, at least they were with that last supreme court ruling but that could change depending on which way the wind blows.

411810 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Richy_m_99, 1, #855 of 2096 🔗

I think at the last count, Van Tam had £600,000 invested in Pharma shares.

411988 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to RickH, #856 of 2096 🔗

Yes I think so. that we know about. I suspect there’s more where that came from, or did he really sell himself so cheap?

411606 Caramel, replying to Caramel, 2, #857 of 2096 🔗

So ‘snap lockdown’ for Victoria. 5 days or whatever. It’s going to be the brutal one.

I was in my friend’s car today and the radio was playing. Kim Jong-Dan’s voice was on so I put my hands over my ears as I can’t bear to hear him speak. According to said friend, I had to ‘deal with it’. I was forced to live through the traumatic lockdown here and so why would I want to listen to him. I’ve heard his voice only a handful of times but it stresses me out. Said friend dismisses it all as ‘opposition politician might not have handled it well ‘.

411645 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Caramel, 5, #858 of 2096 🔗

How can you be a friend of a child hurting lockdown-loving scumball?


411680 ▶▶▶ Caramel, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #859 of 2096 🔗

They’re all brainwashed here.

Am wfh and had a meeting the other day with someone who ended the meeting with ‘stay safe’.

411607 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 21, #860 of 2096 🔗

I asked a masked neighbour, how am I still alive having never worn a mask, she said she has protected me with her mask. Of course the question, ‘so it only works one way and how does it get through yours for you to stop it getting to me?!’ gets a blank dead stare.

411621 ▶▶ HelzBelz, replying to DanClarke, 9, #861 of 2096 🔗

This just shows the level of stupidity to which the majority have sunk. Or maybe they were already there – we just didn’t notice!

411623 ▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to HelzBelz, 11, #862 of 2096 🔗

That’s it. They were always that thick, this has just shown it up, as Annie posted, yesterday.

411776 ▶▶▶▶ Mike, replying to Sam Vimes, #863 of 2096 🔗

Correct, it has highlighted peoples true characters, previously hidden by societal niceties.

411898 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to HelzBelz, 2, #864 of 2096 🔗

It’s no good just dismissing this as ‘stupidity’.

Although people generally are poor at information and risk assessment’s, it’s much more sinister than that.

Where are people to get there reference points with such blatant propaganda and deliberate misinformation?

412645 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to DanClarke, #865 of 2096 🔗

If she thinks she has Covid why is she out talking to people?

411612 Silke David, replying to Silke David, 4, #866 of 2096 🔗

Interesting news re jabs from Lower Saxony, Germany, this morning.

BionTech/Pfizer recommend 30mg, when 10mg showed effective.

A vile holds 5 jabs of 30mg. Germany has already done 6 jabs per vile, Lower Saxony will now do 7 so they can get more people vaccinated.

It will also mean the risk of side effects is less.

411659 ▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Silke David, 1, #867 of 2096 🔗

Looks like someone didn’t get the memo that they are supposed to be spending as much money as possible. Economising on vaccine doses just won’t do.

411661 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Silke David, 7, #868 of 2096 🔗

They’re vial things, those ‘vaccines’ …


411673 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Silke David, 5, #869 of 2096 🔗

Street level drug dealers often resort to ‘cutting’ the product

411613 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 3, #870 of 2096 🔗

Same story, 2 different perspectives. One is a cheerleader for zero covid and thinks this is a rational way to act. The other seems like a regular human being to me. I wonder what people will think of the strategy if/when there are multiple outbreaks at the same time.

Victoria to enter lockdown with fans barred from Australian Open

The Australian state of Victoria will enter lockdown for a third time in a bid to suppress an outbreak of the UK strain of coronavirus.

Christina Pagel

A suppression strategy looks like Australia – when there is an outbreak you stamp down on it hard but fast to allow quick return to normal life. this outbreak was linked to a quarantine worker getting sick. And Aus have stricter rules than us!


Perhaps this might show the lockdown zealots that there is a difference between free from, and free to. And being free from viruses isn’t a realistic goal if we want a life where we are free to do the things that make being alive worthwhile

411855 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Nobody2021, #871 of 2096 🔗

This is my hope for NZ and Aus, that as their winter approaches they will be in so many snap lockdowns in so many different places that it will become untenable and zero covid will be put in the bin where it belongs.

411616 frankfrankly, replying to frankfrankly, 8, #872 of 2096 🔗

It’s always a mistake to prepare for the last war but the next looks like it will strongly be a continuation of the present one. The Govt. will have to account for failures on ppe and testing but the dominant meme is going to be “We should have locked down sooner”-esp. from Prof. Ferguson & Owen Jones. This will be used as an excuse to always lock down or impose tiers in future, no matter the NHS capacity or how dangerous or not new variants are. It is this narrative which we must destroy. Undermining the model and the modellers must be a crucial part of this as today’s article shows-‘Maths student shows up professor’ would be a good headline.

Meanwhile we need to keep up the pressure on MP’s as they are the ones who can prevent all this happening again; and be careful to keep a record of what they have said. In future, some of them may not like to be reminded of it!

411678 ▶▶ Achilles, replying to frankfrankly, 5, #873 of 2096 🔗

We’ve undermined the modelling many times over. People aren’t interested, it’s too technical. Highlighting the human cost of lockdown, the duplicity of government, the long-term future and the impoverishment of the “New Normal” are the only places we can gain traction. People act emotionally and then justify it logically afterwards. We can only trump emotion with emotion.

411766 ▶▶▶ Mike, replying to Achilles, 4, #874 of 2096 🔗

I would argue that mocking is the way to go. From my interactions with covid zombies the only thing that has even got them to consider any information in a critical manor has been making them laugh at parts of the scenario we are in..

I’ve tried facts, evidence, reason, graphs, tables, YouTube videos etc and they have remained indifferent. Make a joke of parts of the scenario we are in which sneaks in a few nuggets of truth and they have re-acted in a sceptical manor…one caveat…don’t attempt on a zealot, you’ll be accused of being a heartless b@stard.

Andrew Lawrence on YouTube has been quite useful for point out the stupidity without scaring them off..

411893 ▶▶▶▶ frankfrankly, replying to Mike, #875 of 2096 🔗

I don’t disagree with any of these comments but the inevitable enquiry can’t be allowed to establish a dangerous theme without challenge.Mockery, esp. of masking is good. The problem is that fanatics react differently and damagingly to normal people.

411737 ▶▶ alw, replying to frankfrankly, 4, #876 of 2096 🔗

As I have noted previously this is now World War 3. People versus the political elite and technocrats. We also need to remind all sitting MP’s whatever the party that there is now no longer such a thing as a safe seat

411763 ▶▶▶ leicestersq, replying to alw, 4, #877 of 2096 🔗

Amazing how during this terrible pandemic, there hasnt been one single by-election. How do so many MPs all manage to stay alive?

411627 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 8, #878 of 2096 🔗

Irish Health Chief says frontline health workers who refuse vaccination will be “removed” from frontline roles. i.e. it’s mandatory.


411646 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to godowneasy, 8, #879 of 2096 🔗

Then its time people banded together to fight back.

411668 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to godowneasy, 7, #880 of 2096 🔗

Great. The Irish health system will be on its knees in days

412651 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to godowneasy, #881 of 2096 🔗

Good luck filling those posts.

411628 Will, 5, #882 of 2096 🔗


Petition to stop the imposition of identity cards, renamed as health passports.

411634 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 20, #883 of 2096 🔗

The non vaccinated are the new 1930’s German Jews

411642 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Cecil B, 10, #884 of 2096 🔗

I’m waiting for yellow badge wearing to be made mandatory showing who the covid dissenters are.

411650 ▶▶▶ Alan P, replying to Bella Donna, 17, #885 of 2096 🔗

We already have a system. Believers wear face masks, dissenters are coming under pressure to display exemption badges or lanyards.

411669 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Cecil B, 10, #886 of 2096 🔗

My hippy commune idea for us type of folk is becoming more and more realistic.

411704 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Ganjan21, 3, #887 of 2096 🔗

The won’t allow it. The last thing they will want are visible groups of the unvaccinated who are stubbornly refusing to die, while the vaxxed zombies are dropping like flies. The vaccine refuseniks are the worst enemy of those pushing the corona depopulation scam and as such they will be relentlessly hounded by government. Of course, the alternative is death by “vaccine,” so resistance is not optional.

411747 ▶▶▶ Basics, replying to Ganjan21, 3, #888 of 2096 🔗

I don’t have the feet for sandals.

411749 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Basics, #889 of 2096 🔗


412658 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Basics, #890 of 2096 🔗

Pobbles will not be discriminated against.

411674 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Cecil B, 15, #891 of 2096 🔗

Ah well now you must be careful when making such comparisons because when you are famous enough to have your own page on Wikipedia they will be referred to, as below on Matt Le Tissier’s page

“In 2020, Le Tissier became an outspoken critic on the reaction to the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, with several tweets in which he criticised what he deemed to be an “overreaction” from the government and media, among others opposing lockdowns and mask orders. An image he posted on Twitter which implied a comparison between the Holocaust and having to wear masks during the pandemic was deleted.”

There’s a whole army of Wikipedia editors who must spend all their spare time digging “dirt” on anyone with heretical views and slipping them in, regardless of how important, relevant or balanced they are.

411681 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Julian, 2, #892 of 2096 🔗

There certainly is. The “Philip Cross” and “Slim Virgin” franchises come straight to mind.

411721 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 2, #893 of 2096 🔗

I’d not heard of them. There are probably lots of others plus amateurs who hate anyone remotely conservative.

The longest paragraph in Lord Sumptions entry concerns his remarks about the value of life – so in his long career that’s the most important aspect? There are some rent-a-quotes attacking his views – they love a citation. One day when I have more time I will include something defending his views, from Toby or someone like that, and see how long it lasts.

411731 ▶▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Julian, 1, #894 of 2096 🔗

Craig Murray’s blog has an interesting article- possibly two, not sure- on “Philip Cross”. The “Slim Virgin” operation is a spy-story in itself.

411687 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Julian, 1, #895 of 2096 🔗

If they deleted it then that is all you need to know

411714 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Cecil B, 4, #896 of 2096 🔗

I expect he deleted it after getting attacked

He tweets less than he used to about covid now that the football season is underway but in general he has stuck to his guns despite the attacks

411691 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Cecil B, #897 of 2096 🔗


411707 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to rockoman, 1, #898 of 2096 🔗

The inmates of care homes. The majority have been killed off

411720 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Cecil B, 3, #899 of 2096 🔗

Excellent article here about the latest case of censorship for speaking the truth.


411666 Cecil B, 26, #900 of 2096 🔗

Message to Kate and Luc

You have done enough. Don’t put your family at risk. Don’t open again until the PIg Dictator has gone. Hopefully you have enough money now to get by until after the regime has fallen.

There is more than one way to skin a cat

If this is ever over I will visit and buy everyone in there a full Polish

411679 Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, 5, #901 of 2096 🔗

Toby posted this in June last year!

The Health Passport — A Green Light for Tyranny?

411683 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Cheezilla, 6, #902 of 2096 🔗

A friend told me last year that COVID was short for:


411813 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Bella Donna, #903 of 2096 🔗

Wishful thinking
Cov is the common prefix of a coronovirus (as in Hcov-Oc43)

411838 ▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Crystal Decanter, 1, #904 of 2096 🔗

And yet vaccine IDs are being issued! Did anyone become hysterical about Influenza deaths? So whilst you may dismiss my comment what I say is still relevant. What is happening now has been in planning for a number of years.

411697 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Cheezilla, #905 of 2096 🔗

Tyranny ! It is here now ! What can we do ??? Can Toby let Delingpole run this site ( with a disclaimer for himself) as a call to Arms , Dellers could be the Churchill for our times 😇

411743 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Freddy Boy, #906 of 2096 🔗

Has delingpole been suspended on utube?

411682 p02099003, 8, #907 of 2096 🔗

With regards to the critique of the Imperial model, here is a quote from Hope-Simpson in his book about Influenza:
“The most striking defect of the current concept of direct spread is its inability to explain a common feature of human epidemic influenza, namely the fact that it is a seasonal disease. This is so well known as to be taken for granted. Perhaps, for that very reason, it has tended to be forgotten that, as an aspect of influenza behavior, it needs to be explained by any valid concept of the epidemic process.”
He also considers the differences between the number and rate of infection based on latitude.
Perhaps Darth Ferguson should do some reading before unleashing his Death Star predictions.

411688 danny, replying to danny, 9, #908 of 2096 🔗

Following the ideology behind masks to the logical conclusion, shouldn’t people be forced to safely dispose of a mask as soon as they remove it, and then to replace it with a new vacuum sealed new mask, a few times a day?
Anything less is surely making them super spreaders?

411694 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to danny, 4, #909 of 2096 🔗

But that would mean they actually care about our health.

All part of the plan 😉

411696 ▶▶ albert hall, replying to danny, 5, #910 of 2096 🔗

That’s beyond the intellect of most maskers. They’d sooner wave the filthy rag around to ensure the rest of us get a lungful of whatever they’re spreading and not just Covid. Then why not just drop it on the ground.

411744 ▶▶ Basics, replying to danny, #911 of 2096 🔗

Taken care of in part by the council here. Your waste, including used tissues they helpfully point out, is to be double bagged and left for 72 hours before disposal. This applies to those who have a positive pcr test. The council have spent thousands on that little campaign, posters applied to building works. Our council are clever, but the haven’t yet addressed the issue of biohazard facemask disposal. They will, they are brain boxes in our council.

412668 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Basics, #912 of 2096 🔗

Surprised there isn’t a separate light blue wheelie bin yet for face nappies. Binmen with good life insurance and in hazmat suits could collect it once a week.

411825 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to danny, #913 of 2096 🔗

Indeed and that is what we need to tell the mask wearing people. Stop touching your mask. Now that you touched your mask, go and wash your hands, now put on a clean mask

411846 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to danny, 1, #914 of 2096 🔗

And there should be proper hazardous waste disposal points if the muzzles are THAT effective. They’re so contaminated by viral stuff AND bacteria (which we know is dangerous and never gets a mention).

411689 tony rattray, replying to tony rattray, 4, #915 of 2096 🔗


Two of three BiFab yards bought out of administration – BBC News

The above story really does sum up the economic numpty-land of the so called scottish government. Remember, the future is about building back better (green)!

However, in the real world the scottish government / economy cannot even maintain a business that ought to boom under this future (off shore wind farms, etc.).

Instead it has been bailed out by an english based company with the current skeleton staff on holiday (sorry, lockdown furlough ).

But as the ginger nut has decreed, we do have universal basic income also to look forward too….

Please sir, can I have some more…

411701 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to tony rattray, 4, #916 of 2096 🔗

Where’s the money for UBI going to come from?

411705 ▶▶▶ tony rattray, replying to Nobody2021, #917 of 2096 🔗

Nicola will sell her house as she really does care.

411732 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Nobody2021, 1, #918 of 2096 🔗

I doubt they care, when has public debt & rising taxes ever bothered socialists?

411820 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Nobody2021, #919 of 2096 🔗

We can hand in all the pots and pans we’ve been banging to be melted down to sell to CCP.

411699 Major Panic, replying to Major Panic, 40, #920 of 2096 🔗

First do no harm

Lockdown was a panic move by a weak leader for a virus that turned out to be not as deadly as the panic suggested – and without first checking what harm may be caused by the lockdown experiment.

For political reasons from then on it was required that the population believe;

the virus far more deadly than it turned out to be to justify the panic,
only lockdown can secure safety and reduces deaths to justify the panic,
only population vaccination can get the population into safety and out of lockdowns.

The Government have gone from a forgivable panic to crimes against the British people including mass murder simply to cover their arses

411710 ▶▶ Maverick, replying to Major Panic, 3, #921 of 2096 🔗

Spot on!

411727 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Major Panic, 3, #922 of 2096 🔗

To simplistic, the smoking gun was the sudden abandonment of decades of science from there, theres a chain of impossible coincidences, its much more than incompetence, that’s just an excuse used for denialists unwilling to acknowledge reality. The tories are doing what tories always do exploiting others to enrich themselves at everyone elses expense. Privatised profit & nationalised debt.

411790 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #923 of 2096 🔗

Labour would have done exactly the same they are all the same bucket of shit.

411812 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Jaguarpig, 3, #924 of 2096 🔗

Sir Kneel demanding incarceration etc. harder and faster.

412028 ▶▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Jaguarpig, #925 of 2096 🔗

Hear hear

411738 ▶▶ DeepBlueYonder, replying to Major Panic, 4, #926 of 2096 🔗

Professor Christopher Whitty, 10 October 2018:

Although the first reaction is usually panic, epidemics should be addressed systematically. Panic kills . How to respond to any given new epidemic or pandemic depends on factors all of which are predictable as being important. These are: mortality/severity, available treatment, available vaccines, force of transmission and above all route of transmission.”

(at 50:14 onwards).

411770 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Major Panic, 3, #927 of 2096 🔗

So true, those responsible for this must be brought to justice.

411784 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to smithey, 4, #928 of 2096 🔗

At the end of a rope

411829 ▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Jaguarpig, 3, #929 of 2096 🔗

Rope or firing squad.

411842 ▶▶▶▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Bella Donna, 1, #930 of 2096 🔗

By face mask would be preferable.

411789 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Major Panic, #931 of 2096 🔗

A brilliant CCP psyop to take back HK, Taiwan next no doubt. Our only hope against complete domination by CCP aided by their satrap in WH is collapse of CCP under the weight of its many internal contradictions (the collapsing birth rate in China not the least of them). Corrupt dictatorial regimes do collapse eventually (USSR) but it will be a close run thing this time round.

412025 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Major Panic, #932 of 2096 🔗

Totally agree with all you say Major Panic.

411713 Caramel, 2, #933 of 2096 🔗

Reminder that the Plan B symposium starts soon. https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/symposium2021/

411718 Katabasis, replying to Katabasis, 19, #934 of 2096 🔗

In all honesty folks if they bring in both negative interest rates and soft coercion to take a vaccine whose safety I have every reason to question I’m going to consider my life effectively over.

Negative interest rates mean I won’t be able to protect myself by saving responsibly for lean times and possible gaps between contracts. Morally and emotionally I would never be able to live with myself if I gave into deeply questionable medical tyranny just to go to the gym, the pub or see family. We all know it won’t stop there either.

Prison or an early death would be preferable.

411733 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to Katabasis, 7, #935 of 2096 🔗

I understand how you feel – would be the same for me. But don’t give up yet (or ever). Not feeling too optimistic myself but let’s call their bluff before we wave the white flag.

411822 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Charlie Blue, 1, #936 of 2096 🔗

I’m not waving a white flag .,.. ever!

411736 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Katabasis, 7, #937 of 2096 🔗






411742 ▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to Katabasis, 6, #938 of 2096 🔗

yes, the same thoughts just crossed my mind, so going forward we will see the real heroes emerge to fight this, including myself. never give up . no surrender. we will find an alternative reality.

411769 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Katabasis, 2, #939 of 2096 🔗

Perhaps we’ll get hyper inflation and wealth taxes too just to add to the fun. Joked about spraying the lead internal ballast ingots in my little wooden boat gold to troll HMRC but I might be spraying gold ingots lead coloured now.

411856 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Katabasis, 1, #940 of 2096 🔗

Buy gold and silver and keep it under the floorboards
This will also help to implode the fiat currency system
Only keep in a bank as much as you need for month to month bills

412676 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Katabasis, #941 of 2096 🔗

Buy hard assets or just find a secure hiding place for the cash. It’s worth more under the mattress in a NIRP world. People will always take cash or barter.

411722 rockoman, 8, #942 of 2096 🔗

“We are in the typical context of a “self-fulfilling prophecy”, where, through neuro-immunological overresponses, physical immobilization, social isolation and socio-economic difficulties, the death toll gets maximized and the expected death prophecy confirmed.”


411726 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 5, #943 of 2096 🔗

Israel marches forward to exclude the unvaccinated from society. At least they are being honest about it I suppose but do they realise what they are doing?. What I find amazing is that they are actually saying the vast majority of vaccinated Israelis are NOT sufficiently protected by the vaccine and that the minority who have refused the vaccine are a danger to their health system and society in general.


The Health Ministry is reportedly planning to clamp down on Israelis who refuse to vaccinate against the coronavirus and impose severe sanctions on businesses that accept unvaccinated customers and on individuals who forge a document that says they have been vaccinated.
According to a Channel 12 news report Thursday night, Health Minister Yuli Edelstein wants to encourage widespread vaccination by offering advantages to those who take the shot, and also by limiting the options of those who don’t.
“Whoever doesn’t vaccinate will only go out to supermarkets or pharmacies, while the vaccinated will go to stadiums and gyms,” Edelstein was quoted as saying.

411748 ▶▶ leicestersq, replying to godowneasy, 18, #944 of 2096 🔗

Odd that Israel are so keen to breach the Nuremburg code. They want us to remember why it was introduced, dont they know why it was created?

411752 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to leicestersq, 10, #945 of 2096 🔗

I agree 100% with your comment, it scares me if Israel is prepared to ignore Nuremburg what hope is there for us?

411759 ▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Cumbriacracked, 9, #946 of 2096 🔗

Israel have been involved in atrocities since they were re-invented. Why is this a surprise?

411794 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to jb12, 3, #947 of 2096 🔗

As have many other countries, however it was what happened to the Jewish, and others, which as we all know led to Nuremburg. History is being airbrushed by many in order to introduce such draconian measures.

412823 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Cumbriacracked, #948 of 2096 🔗

The Israelis, along with South Africa, are a special brand of psychotic, which is why it is not surprising.

411896 ▶▶▶ HelzBelz, replying to leicestersq, #949 of 2096 🔗

Exactly my first thought too.

411730 FedupofLies, replying to FedupofLies, 19, #950 of 2096 🔗

The NUMBER ONE moral issue is to make sure that CHILDREN are KEPT AWAY FROM THAT FILTHY NEEDLE!

SHAME on Peter fucking Hitchens and his stupid debate with someone I don’t even know





411740 ▶▶ Julian, replying to FedupofLies, 20, #951 of 2096 🔗

I’d go along with your other points wholeheartedly but I think Hitchens in firmly on our side and has tirelessly argued against the coronamadness since Day 1

411755 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Julian, 7, #952 of 2096 🔗

I agree he is but he needs to drop this nonsense about the govt being motivated by the best of intentions…that is horse manure sorry.

411765 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Boris Bullshit, 3, #953 of 2096 🔗

Where has he said that?

In any case the govts intentions are somewhat secondary – unless and until we persuade enough people that the coronapanic has done more harm than good, we are nowhere

411775 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Julian, 3, #954 of 2096 🔗

Need to form LARGE mass protests like in Germany et al.

Non-violent, of course, so that people SEE there is an alternative.

411801 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #955 of 2096 🔗

Where has peaceful protests got anyone?

411815 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Bella Donna, #956 of 2096 🔗

Satyagraha. Just saying.

411819 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Bella Donna, 6, #957 of 2096 🔗

I’m not sure violent protests would be the answer though, until more of public opinion is on our side – I think they would serve to put people off

Mass civil disobedience may be a better way forward

411833 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Julian, #958 of 2096 🔗

We don’t hear much about New Zealand. So this website (sent to me by a NZ friend) is well worth a read, so that people can see that many Kiwis feel EXACTLY as we do, and trying to fight their corner.
Here’s the blog page, with some great articles:


411879 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Bella Donna, #959 of 2096 🔗

It’s really just to provide a visual sign to those who are sceptics that something isn’t up, that they might join us.

That really is all that can happen now.

Also, there are other countries in the world who are rebelling. They would see it on social media even if, like the German protests, mainstream media ( fascist complicit and criminal ) ignore it.

411837 ▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Julian, 2, #960 of 2096 🔗

He does make a point of insisting that we must presume our political opponents have good intentions. He regards that as the basis of civilised discourse. I think he extends that to the government despite his intense dislike of what the have done and the way they have done it.

411883 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Mark, 2, #961 of 2096 🔗

That is the kind of RUBBISH Hitchens has been coming out with for months.

This is TOTALITARIAN FASCISM we are fighting, and there is no room for ‘polite debate’ now that all avenues of it have been demolished.

At best Hitchens and his debate serves as an example for future generations on how to behave in a civilised society.

THIS is a society that is OPENLY calling for MASS EXPERIMENTATION ON CHILDREN!

There is NO ROOM for polite debate.

411814 ▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Boris Bullshit, 5, #962 of 2096 🔗

I’m not so sure. If makes too much anti government noise he will be labelled an anti government crank and likely banished from the airwaves. If he comes at it from the angle that the government have the best intentions but have inadvertently got things wrong and we want to help them correct things he may well engage better with the majority of the population. Even though we know better we have to think about how best to win over the majority of people.

411885 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to smithey, #963 of 2096 🔗

It is MONTHS away from MASS EXPERIMENTATION on children.

I care not a jot what a FUCKING FASCIST PUBLIC THINKS.

I am interested in drawing out the decent people among them who already have realised the truth. A MASS RALLY creates the assurance that there is a significant number of citizens who think differently from the mainstream.

PLUS, muggles will also begin to have doubts, potentially, when they see it is more than Piers Corbyn out there. Fantastic guy as he is, hero and all that.

411948 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Boris Bullshit, #964 of 2096 🔗

Well – we know what the road to hell is paved with.

411772 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Julian, 3, #965 of 2096 🔗

Yeah, sorry, I wrote that when I was angry. Peter Hitchens was the first person I read against the lockdown. I am just angry that he has the kind of middle-class identity that he could have led a revolt. Instead he attacks David Icke who has clearly filled a vaccum where such as he might have been. Fair enough, I guess.

And he is getting into silly twitter spats with lightweight journalists that go nowhere.

411795 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to FedupofLies, 5, #966 of 2096 🔗

Yup we’re all angry

I don’t remember everything he has said about Icke but most of the things I have seen are along the lines of “I don’t agree with everything David Icke says” and have been a response to people comparing him to Icke. I don’t think it’s fair to call that an “attack”

As for the Twitter spats, it’s a point of view but at least he is trying to engage the opposition in debate – he’s not going to convert Dan Hodges but some people watching that debate might start to change their views and it’s an opportunity to put forward the sceptic case

As for his middle-class identity and leading a revolt, I don’t think he’s got that much credibility outside of those who generally agree with his take on things

He has worked tirelessly to put the sceptic case, actually quite a purist version of the case based on the value of liberty, since the start and been mercilessly attacked for it

I don’t think he is much of a joiner, and prefers to plough his own furrow, which is his choice. I expect his views on leading a revolt are that he is not a person to do such a thing and the revolt doesn’t need leaders, just ordinary people taking whatever action they can to push back

411895 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Julian, 1, #967 of 2096 🔗

Ah well, he’ll just stand by as mass experimentation on kids takes place.

I have never been on a protest in my life. I LOATHE the protesting classes.

As for Icke, he says that the ‘sceptic position would have won were it not for Icke’.

My point is, Icke is up there because Hitchens preferred not to be.

I have literally no idea who Hodges is.

411809 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Julian, 5, #968 of 2096 🔗

Hitchens refuses to condone breaking the law and appears to ascribe our predicament solely to compound incompetence- he is perfectly entitled to hold these opinions. In fact, such traction as he has upon what passes for the national debate about the response to Covid would be completely destroyed were he to renounce the former, and possibly the latter. His debate on the Mike Graham show with the vacuous Establishment brat Hodges, whom he schooled, was seen by a mass audience. Were Hitchens to start advocating breaking the law, even assuming for a moment that he ever would be inclined to do so, he would be un-personned in an instant. He absolutely needs to keep doin’ what he’s doin’ in the way that he’s doin’ it.

411830 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 2, #969 of 2096 🔗

appears to ascribe our predicament solely to compound incompetence” That’s not my reading of his position. I think he’s made clear that there’s a good deal of power madness, cowardice and arse covering involved, which makes the govt wicked rather than incompetent

411847 ▶▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Julian, #970 of 2096 🔗

Fair enough, Julian, yes…..was meaning more that he sits on the “cockup” side of the unfortunate, false and unhelpful “cockup/conspiracy” binary. As opposed to the “conspiracy” side of said unfortunate, false and unhelpful binary. Wickedness and incompetence are certainly not mutually exclusive- a government can be both wicked and incompetent, as our current junta demonstrates on a daily basis. Uptick, anyway!

411905 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Julian, #971 of 2096 🔗

To not mention Big Pharma, at least, as the engine of this is pure wilfull ignorance.

411902 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Dermot McClatchey, #972 of 2096 🔗

There is no DEBATE!

They are making an experimental gene therapy mandatory for a fucking non-dangerous virus, and all because BIG PHARMA has taken over government.



Then again, maybe you are right.

411780 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to FedupofLies, 10, #973 of 2096 🔗

Hitchens has argued against the coronavirus madness from the outset. His arguments have persuaded others, people who supported lockdown and the rest. He has made, and continues to make, a significant and substantial contribution, challenging the madness day in and day out.

412768 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Steve Hayes, #974 of 2096 🔗

Update on Hitchens: He has just posted this tweet:

“Good and right are often defeated, @davidhoban8 , and frequently far more utterly than they have been defeated here and now. There’s no secular answer to this, only a hope that what we do here matters somewhere else, and that telling the truth is worthwhle for its own sake.”

So that is Hitchen’s moral response? To the planned experimentation on children?

He says there is justice in heaven. What a fucking immoral douchebag.

he only ever cared about his own being a contrarian.

Fuck him!

I am never reading anything by him again. Ivor Cummins thread is my go-to, anyway.

411760 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 23, #975 of 2096 🔗

Forced injections for the whole population including children. No not even the Nazis went that far

411796 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Cecil B, 3, #976 of 2096 🔗

My niece has 3 children who live in Portugal, they all have to be vaccinated or no schooling.

411818 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Bella Donna, 2, #977 of 2096 🔗

Oh dear. And it seemed for a little while as though Portugal just might have been a beacon of hope.

411873 ▶▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Banjones, #978 of 2096 🔗

Now it’s just a bacon of hope

411831 ▶▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Bella Donna, 5, #979 of 2096 🔗

Hope she isn’t expecting grandchildren.

411999 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Bella Donna, #980 of 2096 🔗

That’s horrific. Has there not been any pushback Bella Donna from the parents in Portugal?

411777 ChrisDinBristol, replying to ChrisDinBristol, 10, #981 of 2096 🔗

Stephan Lewandowsky? STEPHAN LEWANDOWSKY? Those of us that have been following ‘climate wars’ over the past decade will recognise the name – he was responsible for the fr**dulent “97% of scientists” paper, along with aussie cartoonist John Cook (founder of the Orwellian “skeptical science” website). Lewandowsky is also one of the most unpleasant people I’ve seen in the whole “debate” (and that’s a crowded field) – all we need now is for Michael Mann or Naomi Oreskes to pipe up and I’ll consider my (and others’) hypothesis that covid19 and climate change are the same monster wearing different clothes proven. Ashamed that a Bristol ‘educational’ establishment should employ him – sorry.

411791 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to ChrisDinBristol, 11, #982 of 2096 🔗

FWIW Chris, if it gives you a chuckle, it was me who originally leaked his data to Steve McIntyre and other sceptics after I pretended to be a head-banging green who needed his data to help me fight off “evil deniers”.

411858 ▶▶▶ ChrisDinBristol, replying to Katabasis, 3, #983 of 2096 🔗

Chuckle? You deserve a medal (so does Steve, but I expect you’ll both be waiting a long time). Anyhow, well done indeed!

411778 EssieSW, replying to EssieSW, 69, #984 of 2096 🔗

Forgive my rant, I only very occasionally comment but I visit the site almost every day and I just need to let this out.
I am so full of hate now, and I hate it. I have always been one to let and let live and to try and see the best in people, but no more. Lockdown and the whole response to covid has changed me as a person. I find myself wanting to hide away because every single time I go outside there are morons walking outside in the open air in masks. People stepping into the road (often without looking first) rather than walking past me on the pavement. It makes me feel like there is something wrong with me even though I know full well the problem lies with them. I avoid all eye contact with people, my eyes constantly trained at the ground when I see someone approach me. I hate these people, and I know nothing about them. And I hate them more for making me feel that hatred.

They question nothing, and I find myself hoping that they suffer. That the masks make them ill, that following the ‘rules’ ends up harming them somehow. Then I feel hatred towards myself for wishing that on a stranger.

I’m sure this is also something the behavioral physiologists have engineered too. To make those of us who don’t buy into the fear feel very isolated. I am not going to start a conversation with a stranger because I hate them on site.

The hardest part about all this for me is the uncertainty. On this site we share ideas and information about what is happening or might happen in the near future. Health passports, forced vaccination and the ever lasting lockdown. I just want to know what is going to happen. Even if it is going to be a fully totalitarian state and the end of life as we once knew it. The worst thing is this purgatory we find ourselves in. Living of scraps of hope when we read about protests, businesses staying open and facing fines and the odd voice in the government and public eye daring to question this madness. I don’t know if that is enough for me anymore.

411788 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to EssieSW, 30, #985 of 2096 🔗

I want to see this government publicly lynched, that’s how much I hate them.

412906 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Bella Donna, 1, #986 of 2096 🔗

Fair enough.

411792 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to EssieSW, 20, #987 of 2096 🔗

I’m sure many of us understand completely what you say.

I hope you continue to share your thoughts.

411802 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to EssieSW, 16, #988 of 2096 🔗

Hate is normally such a strong word however I can certainly relate to your feelings. It is not a surprise so many are experiencing such emotions which we probably do not do. The behaviour bods have managed to scare so many into submission, the flip side of their actions is to make many very angry.

412480 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Cumbriacracked, 7, #989 of 2096 🔗

I have no problem saying I hate them. well, probably not the sheeple, but certainly those who devised and are pushing this agenda. I could quite cheerfully take part in murdering them, and moreover believe that I was doing a good thing. I suppose because I believe that they are trying to murder me: therefore it’s only self-defence technically speaking.

411804 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to EssieSW, 24, #990 of 2096 🔗

I’m quite looking forward to partaking in a civil war at this stage.

411828 ▶▶▶ EssieSW, replying to GrannySlayer, 11, #991 of 2096 🔗

It would not surprise me at all if that is the way this will go. Its kind of what I mean about the purgatory. Civil war would be very messy but at least something would be happening and the government will see not everyone is abiding by and believing this shit

412099 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to GrannySlayer, #992 of 2096 🔗

I’d still rather nuke China.

412907 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to AidanR, #993 of 2096 🔗

That sounds like a 77th Brigade diversionary comment.

412485 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to GrannySlayer, 2, #994 of 2096 🔗

see you on the barricades, Granny Slayer!

411806 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to EssieSW, 22, #995 of 2096 🔗

I understand everything you say. I feel the same way.

But one thing I do differently, in an effort to plant a seed (which may take root, who knows?) is, when approached by a muzzler when walking, to beam broadly and say brightly ”Good morning! Nice day!” (or whatever) – so that they can remember how it felt to be greeted with a smile and a merry word. I want them to be reminded. I want them to feel uncomfortable about the loss.

It may not work – but if it makes JUST ONE of these idiots actually THINK, then it’s worth the effort. And it IS an effort to treat them as if they’re normal. So YOU continue to be normal. That’ll show ’em.

411817 ▶▶▶ EssieSW, replying to Banjones, 17, #996 of 2096 🔗

Thank you Banjones, this is the approach I took last year but I feel so worn down lately I haven’t done it. But I will resolve to try and do this again, you are right, it is worth the effort.

411839 ▶▶▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to EssieSW, 16, #997 of 2096 🔗

I have avoided places like supermarkets and town centre where the masked people are. I can only hope that they are following the rules to avoid confrontation, and will realise the plot eventually. I go out on my bike a lot and have found shops and a catering supplier who never say anything to me when i go in unmasked and an outdoor market for butchers , bakers and greengrocers, all of which i am trying to educate about the facts, not the lies. keep up your resistance , you are not alone, and keep venting on here. its a great place for humour , facts and educated people.

411897 ▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to pub with no beer, 10, #998 of 2096 🔗

Just an aside, re muzzles – it specifically states on the government’s own website about ‘examptions’, that the police should NOT wear them because of their job to ”serve” the public… (I know, the word ”serve” is risible.)

Perhaps we should all make a point, if ever in a ”conversation” with an officer, of asking him/her to remove the muzzle.

411906 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Banjones, 6, #999 of 2096 🔗

Police officers are exempt, and yet they wear them outdoors, where they are not needed or mandated. All part of the propaganda assault.

412288 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ John Crichton, replying to Sam Vimes, 3, #1000 of 2096 🔗

Out walking my dog earlier today out in the countryside. A cop car passed me with a lone plod in it – yep, you guessed it, fully muzzled. I laughed so much had to sit down for a few mins to recover.

411827 ▶▶ Mark, replying to EssieSW, 15, #1001 of 2096 🔗

The most important thing for you to do is to find people irl who share your hatred of this coronapanic mess and find constructive things to do with them. You can’t change anything on your own, none of us can, but you can at least be someone pushing in the right direction.

Find a way to direct that hatred constructively. Don’t ever let it turn back on yourself.

Real life contact is vital. Isolation of dissenters is what all propaganda and censorship is aimed at, from pc cancel culture to coronapanic manipulation. They want you to feel alone and helpless and to doubt your own sanity. The best way to resist it is to find real people to talk to about it.

There is no certainty about what is coming, and anyone who tells you there is, is lying.

411935 ▶▶▶ EssieSW, replying to Mark, 10, #1002 of 2096 🔗

I will try to find people in my area again who share our views, and I do desperately want to take action and do something constructive. Unfortunately the town I live in is ‘middle class’ so compliance is very high, lots of mask wearing outdoors, virtue signaling with those bloody rainbows in peoples windows and I since the new year I am 99.9% of the time the only person in the shops/supermarkets unmasked.

411961 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to EssieSW, 4, #1003 of 2096 🔗

Same in my area, tbh.

Have you tried the forums here? There are some regional posts there, might be one for your town or area.

412027 ▶▶▶▶▶ EssieSW, replying to Mark, 1, #1004 of 2096 🔗

I posted on the forum towards the end of last year but didn’t get a response, but I will certainly try again.

412113 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to EssieSW, 2, #1005 of 2096 🔗

As Silke says, can try Telegram as well. The Great Reopening campaign has a whole bunch of regional subgroups. It’s pretty chaotic and there are a lot of people of doubtful sense and possibly motives there, but it is possible to find a likeminded few amongst the chaos.

THE GREAT REOPENING (UK), [12.02.21 10:40]







412202 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ EssieSW, replying to Mark, #1006 of 2096 🔗

Good suggestion, I will check it out

412035 ▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to EssieSW, 3, #1007 of 2096 🔗

Have you tried telegram?
I, too, live in a very middle class town, and we have a group who organise maskless shopping trips. Just one thing to make you feel better, being in a supermarket with other visible faces.

412152 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Silke David, 1, #1008 of 2096 🔗

Why not give us a place and time?

412689 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to EssieSW, 1, #1009 of 2096 🔗

Same with mine but not outside the town (or even the centre). Plenty of normals there. Go for long walks and you will see them.

411834 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to EssieSW, 3, #1010 of 2096 🔗

Essie, I understand your feelings. I know that for me, living alone this last year, I lost almost all human contact because I couldn’t even chat to people in the supermarket queue anymore – partly because I couldn’t understand them with their masks on. Like you, I have changed to avoid eye contact in the main, with anyone wearing a mask.

I’ve managed because I have kept my eyes on the God of the Bible – my hope is in Him and nowhere else. There are no political solutions to this, although I wish everyone the best with whatever they want to do to try to stop this – maybe they will succeed. My priority is my relationship with God. I try to stay humble and feel sorry for those who have been misled into following along with the beginnings of this totalitarianism.

I’ll add here some verses from Micah Chapter 7 which bring understanding and comfort.

1“Woe is me!
For I am like those who gather summer fruits,
Like those who glean vintage grapes;
There is no cluster to eat
Of the first-ripe fruit which my soul desires.
2 The faithful man has perished from the earth,
And there is no one upright among men.
They all lie in wait for blood;
Every man hunts his brother with a net.
3 That they may successfully do evil with both hands—
The prince asks for gifts,
The judge seeks a bribe,
And the great man utters his evil desire;
So they scheme together.
4 The best of them is like a brier;
The most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge;
The day of your watchman and your punishment comes;
Now shall be their perplexity.
5 Do not trust in a friend;
Do not put your confidence in a companion;
Guard the doors of your mouth
From her who lies in your bosom.
6 For son dishonors father,
Daughter rises against her mother,
Daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
A man’s enemies are the men of his own household.
7 Therefore I will look to the Lord;
I will wait for the God of my salvation;
My God will hear me.
8 Do not rejoice over me, my enemy;
When I fall, I will arise;
When I sit in darkness,
The Lord will be a light to me.
9 I will bear the indignation of the Lord,
Because I have sinned against Him,
Until He pleads my case
And executes justice for me.
He will bring me forth to the light;
I will see His righteousness.
10 Then she who is my enemy will see,
And shame will cover her who said to me,
“Where is the Lord your God?”
My eyes will see her;
Now she will be trampled down
Like mud in the streets.
11 In the day when your walls are to be built,
In that day the decree shall go far and wide.
12 In that day they shall come to you
From Assyria and the fortified cities,
From the fortress to the River,
From sea to sea,
And mountain to mountain.
13 Yet the land shall be desolate
Because of those who dwell in it,
And for the fruit of their deeds.

411845 ▶▶ ChrisDinBristol, replying to EssieSW, 12, #1011 of 2096 🔗

Look them in the eyes. Be proud. They are deranged, not you. This is taking – and will continue to take – a kind of moral courage that we never expected to need, but which shows us to be stronger – and yes, better – than they. Government measures worldwide will cost tens – maybe hundreds – of millions of lives, cause utter misery for billions, and are removing fundamental freedoms fought for over centuries – that is blood on their hands, not yours.

Be proud.

411851 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to EssieSW, 6, #1012 of 2096 🔗

Source unknown:

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of ‘Men who wanted to be left Alone’.

They try, so very hard to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love.

They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it.

They know the moment they fight back, the lives as they have lived them, are over.

The moment the ‘Men who wanted to be left Alone’ are forced to fight back, it is a small form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be.

Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these ‘Men who wanted to be left Alone’, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives.

They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror.

TRUE TERROR will arrive at their door, and they will cry, scream, and kick but it will fall on death ears. For they are the few and we are the many. “

411880 ▶▶ HelzBelz, replying to EssieSW, 18, #1013 of 2096 🔗

I totally empathise. I hate people that I used to consider friends. I hate my husband. I feel like a bad person for hoping that he will get the vaccine and die. But I cannot abide his views any more – he has become a moral vacuum and is not the person I married.

This morning’s row – he thinks vaccination passports are OK because ‘it’s out only way out of this’. He said the same about extended lockdowns, restrictions, masks, testing, track n trace, quarantines, travel bans… he hasn’t been right yet, so why would any sane, intelligent person think that vaccine passports are the way out?

What disgusts me is that I’m living with someone who clearly supports medical interventions for which voluntary, informed consent has not been given. He is no better than the Nazis that supported Josef Mengele.

411927 ▶▶▶ EssieSW, replying to HelzBelz, 5, #1014 of 2096 🔗

No wonder you feel disgusted! I think this whole episode has shown a lot of people for what they really are and where their true morals lie.

I hope that things are not too difficult for you HelzBelz living in that situation and I am sorry you are having to put up with arguments on a frequent basis.

411977 ▶▶▶▶ HelzBelz, replying to EssieSW, 7, #1015 of 2096 🔗

Thank you – just wanted you to know that you are not alone in your hatred. I’m sure many of us feel this way.

411984 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to HelzBelz, 3, #1016 of 2096 🔗

Oh god that’s awful. Luckily my husband and I share the same views in all of this.

412077 ▶▶▶ kate, replying to HelzBelz, 2, #1017 of 2096 🔗

Hi HelzBelz,

Your husband does not know, or cannot accept, that vaccines can cause serious lifelong harm. Try asking him to look at this site, and then ask him if it is reasonable to force an untested liability-free medical product on anyone, adult, or child who has an objection.


412158 ▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to HelzBelz, 1, #1019 of 2096 🔗

Get in touch with me, Helz, and we can run away together like the owl and the pussy cat. You sound wise and I purr a lot!

411886 ▶▶ Annie, replying to EssieSW, 10, #1020 of 2096 🔗

We all know how you feel, Essie.Raw hatred is strength, but it’s also poison.
I try to act on the words of a character in a favourite children’s book: ‘Once I hated a nan, and it poisoned my days and nights until I realised he was mere scum and not worth hating and so got peace of mind’.
These zombies are mere scum. Look through them. They don’t dare touch you or even come near you. They aren’t fit to do so even if they wanted to. Walk tall and stay with us!

411943 ▶▶ EssieSW, replying to EssieSW, 4, #1021 of 2096 🔗

Thank you very much to all of you who have taken the time to respond to me. I appreciate the experiences you have shared and words of encouragement. It is helping me to find the will to fight and turn the hatred into something constructive 🙂

411968 ▶▶ Janette, replying to EssieSW, 1, #1022 of 2096 🔗


411974 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Janette, 2, #1023 of 2096 🔗

Hi EssieSW I totally understand your feelings and do also wonder where this is all going. It’s horrendous but we must stay strong and support each other. I am sure more people are waking up. Stay strong. Don’t forget we are here for you.

412098 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to EssieSW, 2, #1024 of 2096 🔗

Beautifully put.

I’m 100% with what you say.

There’s a real danger of being consumed by the burning anger.

412147 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to EssieSW, 1, #1025 of 2096 🔗

Nice one Essie, we’re with you!!!

412622 ▶▶ primesinister, replying to EssieSW, 1, #1026 of 2096 🔗

I second rockomans comment 100%

412771 ▶▶ Rowan, replying to EssieSW, #1027 of 2096 🔗

The end game is depopulation by “vaccine” and this explains the governments frenzied efforts to get us all clamouring for the lethal injections.

411785 Banjones, 5, #1028 of 2096 🔗

I got the link to theburningplatform from LS (thanks). This page was particularly interesting, about Fauci, PCR and the ”vaccine”.


411807 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 13, #1029 of 2096 🔗

A tale of two countries.

One has been world leading in science led response to the pandemic. The best scientists in the world. They have brilliant virologists and are sequencing the virus much more than any other country in the world

The other country is poor and has been in armed conflict recently. I can bet not a single virus has been sequenced as above.

One country has afforded not just one lockdown in the spring but even two more with enforced mask mandate and SD. Although the price has been -10% GDP fall 2020 ,it has been acceptable to all political parties and public opinion.

The other country had the first lockdown in the later spring early summer wave but quickly stopped these measures. The country couldn’t afford a lockdown and mask regulations is constantly flouted and any SD in restaurants etc has ceased.All shops etc are open. There have been wide spread demonstrations in the capital without hinderance.

One country has been strongly against a  “let it rip through” darwinistic spread of the virus in the population which could kill many.

The other country thought that there was some immunity from the first wave and did nothing in the second wave with LD and further SD measures as they could not afford it.


 Please tell us how SD and LD is working.

411841 ▶▶ Chicot, replying to swedenborg, 5, #1030 of 2096 🔗

Hah! Great minds think alike. I just posted exactly that graph to prove the point on a different forum. So many have been brainwashed into believing that cases and deaths just carry on rising indefinitely in the absence of human intervention.

411874 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to swedenborg, 6, #1031 of 2096 🔗

The highly-indebted, highly-taxed welfare states of the Anglosphere and the Eurozone are at the centre of this.

If things continue as they are doing, then these societies are heading for collapse.

411884 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to rockoman, 4, #1032 of 2096 🔗

I look forward to hunting collaborators in the street Mad Max style

411892 ▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Crystal Decanter, 1, #1033 of 2096 🔗

By then everybody will be a lockdown sceptic.

411808 Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 50, #1034 of 2096 🔗

So vaccine passports. The vaccine doesn’t stop you getting “it”. Vaccine passports are useless. Not everybody can actually have a vaccine for very good reasons. Vaccine passports are useless What about all the other diseases that are much more dangerous and common? Vaccine passports are useless. How can such a system be realistically workable it’s going to be really hard to do. Vaccine passports are useless.

Whats more important than these important things is this. A lot of people just aren’t getting jabbed.

Look, they have jabbed all the most vulnerable and gullible, hit all the soft targets and now they have ran out of jabbees in the upper age groups and ALREADY they are jabbing the 50+ demographic.

I think by next week they will be targeting the very brainwashed 20 somethings and once they round up these fools that might be another 5 million.

So then when all the very brainwashed have had the jab. We will have 20 to 30 million people in the UK who will not get jabbed.

They know this so what do they do, predictably they turn up the fear/threat/coercion dial up another level. No holidays sheeple unless you get jabbed. Like no Christmas unless you follow the rules.

This is all they have FEAR THREATS AND LIES. It’s not working very well any more is it.

This is why they did that advert with all those has-been “celebs” saying “do your best to stay at home” “Stay at home and save the NHS”, “please stay at home and save lives”.

They bastards know that nobody is listening to their bullshit anymore. No holidays and health passports are the last thing they can pull out their butts to scare the sheeple into getting jabbed and even that isn’t going to be enough. People are sick of their bullshit and their lies don’t work very well any more.

411816 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Two-Six, 8, #1035 of 2096 🔗

Great post

411836 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Two-Six, 8, #1036 of 2096 🔗

I am hoping, almost praying, it is the last throws of desperation.

411849 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Two-Six, 14, #1037 of 2096 🔗

The more they threaten, the more support they lose.

It seems their vastly expensive Machiavelli Department haven’t cottoned on to this simple idea yet.

411868 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to GrannySlayer, 8, #1038 of 2096 🔗

This is where the manipulation of the information the public can or cannot see becomes even more important. The polls, so they keep telling us, are all in favour of what they are doing. So they feel they are justified. It is very difficult to communicate with like minded sceptics with the censorship ongoing. I am sure there are far more sceptical people out there, at least I hope there are!

411890 ▶▶▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Cumbriacracked, 8, #1039 of 2096 🔗

They know support is falling the internal information will tell them. The only thing in their favour now is the weather. For males I am sure there is a sceptical majority. More of the ladies are still scared, particularly those with young children and working in public sector. They are bombarded with propaganda and fear porn.

411903 ▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to nottingham69, 4, #1040 of 2096 🔗

All the sceptics I know are women! Perhaps I should get out more…. oh, just remembered – I can’t, can I?

412296 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Banjones, 1, #1041 of 2096 🔗

Other than my husband, the sad situation is other than on LS I do not know any! I have found that women are the most awful when I am out without a mask, I am sure they would not be so nasty to a man.

411917 ▶▶ jennybean, replying to Two-Six, 11, #1042 of 2096 🔗

I hope so, my husband says they’re just trying it on. I’m not scared of covid, I’m scared and very angry at whoever is in charge (not sure who that is)

411992 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to jennybean, 2, #1043 of 2096 🔗

3 deranged scientists, 1 Secretary of State for Health with serious delusions of being Hitler and 1 Prime Minister known to be a charlatan, pathological liar and worthless individual. That’s whose in charge.

412171 ▶▶▶ mattghg, replying to jennybean, 4, #1044 of 2096 🔗

That’s more or less exactly what Charles Walker said when he voted against lockdown 2: I’m not afraid of the virus, but I am afraid of what’s lurking in the shadows.

412298 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to mattghg, #1045 of 2096 🔗

Was it Charles Walker who also mentioned dark forces?

412345 ▶▶▶▶▶ mattghg, replying to Cumbriacracked, #1046 of 2096 🔗

I think we’re thinking of the same speech .

412167 ▶▶ mattghg, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1047 of 2096 🔗

I saw that advert. A few of them said ‘we’re almost there’. Does any of them have a clue where ‘there’ is, though?

411826 Steeve, replying to Steeve, 1, #1048 of 2096 🔗


COVID-19 mRNA BNT162b2 is a vaccine used for active immunisation to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus.

The vaccine triggers the body’s natural production of antibodies and stimulates immune cells to protect against COVID-19 disease.

Apparently a rare side effect (1 in 1000) people is temporary one sided facial drooping.

Not know side effect (cannot be estimated from the available data) severe allergic reaction.

411969 ▶▶▶ Steeve, replying to Banjones, #1050 of 2096 🔗

Thanks. Is that updated weekly?

411835 Dorian_Hawkmoon, 6, #1051 of 2096 🔗

…and on the basis of that politically motivated US PH behavioural paper that cites highly speculative modelling papers or talks about weather and climate and splits hairs between pandemic and endemic virus behaviours, the modellers can dismiss seasonality and simply ignore latitude altogether. These people are extremely confused and ignorant and yet they drive policy.

411843 l835, replying to l835, 23, #1052 of 2096 🔗

So I had an operation to remove a suspected cancer before Christmas, and was expecting a follow up appointment with histology. Two months later I phoned them as I hadn’t heard anything, more for reassurance as if they’d found anything they’d let me know urgently? Wrong. They “haven’t forgotten about me” and will be sending me a letter. Great, let me know if I’ve got cancer or not by post.

Stay home, save the bloody nhs.

411852 ▶▶ Annie, replying to l835, 13, #1053 of 2096 🔗

This is a scandal. Awful Disgusting.
Do write to your MP. Even if s/he’s the usual spineless slimeball, s/he won’t be able to say that s/he didn’t know about it.
You could write to Wankok as well, same reason.
I will pray for you (unless you object!).
Bon courage! Hope you get good news, and soon.

411864 ▶▶▶ l835, replying to Annie, 3, #1054 of 2096 🔗

Thank you Annie, your chat before Christmas helped me decide to have the op. Will write to my AM once I get the results, although he’s probably still drinking somewhere in the senedd!

411862 ▶▶ gina, replying to l835, 2, #1055 of 2096 🔗

I’m so sorry to hear you’ve had such a stress. I wish you well.

411936 ▶▶▶ l835, replying to gina, #1056 of 2096 🔗

Thank you.

411866 ▶▶ mj, replying to l835, 3, #1057 of 2096 🔗

not in the same league, but i had a blood test before christmas (surgery wouldnt do it , i had to pick up a form from them and the book the hospital.
after a couple of weeks i phone surgery as they had not let me know results were back. apparently not their job.

411925 ▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to mj, 2, #1058 of 2096 🔗

And yet I bet they got arsey that you dared to phone the great doctors to find out…

411921 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to l835, 2, #1059 of 2096 🔗

This is how the Great NHS has always done it, FIL was told a few years ago that he would get a letter if his cancer had come back, if no letter then everything fine.

Not like letters ever get lost in the post or anything, is it? Quite apart from the inhumanity of hearing the news by post.

411979 ▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to A. Contrarian, 6, #1060 of 2096 🔗

It must clear to anyone with half a brain cell that the NHS is run for the convenience of its employees not for those it’s is meant to provide service to. It was before SARS-CoV-2 arrived, and even more so now.

How dare we expect hIghly paid NHS management to have properly planned for the predictable annual winter crisis.

411859 MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, 30, #1061 of 2096 🔗

Last week, I posted that our local butcher’s family had gone down with ‘IT’. Yesterday, the main butcher was back at work. I asked her how she was and it appears that 3 of them had tested positive after 1 daughter lost her sense of taste and smell and she herself developed a bad cough. She said she’d been ‘a bit poorly’ but kept on working on the farm (frustrated at not being able to be in the shop), the daughter was, unsurprisingly, otherwise asymptomatic but her husband was ‘quite poorly and weak’ , now slowly getting better. She did not seem to feel very sorry for him but then she is a farmer!

I sympathised and asked her if she thought their experience justified the ‘measures’. Answer: a resounding ‘NO!’ and she said, ‘They’ve buggered the country’ for this. We agreed (again) that you cannot hide from a virus, masks are useless and damaging (like me, she’s appalled that people wear them outside), that the lock-downs have been a disaster and it’s all about money and power.

I missed a trick. The shop assistants are also sceptics and none of them got ‘IT’ so I wish I’d accused J, who I always have a laugh with, of being the ‘superspreader’! (sarc alert) Next time. . . .

If only there were more people like this. Pay attention, local zombies! MW

411870 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, 7, #1062 of 2096 🔗

And the virus was game-functioned off research started by Fauci and then shifted to China. Laboratories built by Big Pharma corps. Don’t know what the Chinese knew about what was going on there.

Judy Mikovits spills the beans in her banned Plandemic documentary.

411878 ▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, 4, #1063 of 2096 🔗

ps They are all anti the so-called ‘vaccinations’ too! 🙂 MW

411888 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, 2, #1064 of 2096 🔗

Well, they’ve not buggered the country for this. They’ve buggered the country, at best, for the joy of buggery.

There are of course other hypotheses represented btl.

411863 Ovis, replying to Ovis, 16, #1065 of 2096 🔗

There is at least one thing going badly wrong for the regime: the obedient, compliant people are even more miserable and desperate than we are.

412022 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ovis, 5, #1066 of 2096 🔗

I’n afraid I find that a very consoling thought. A whole year of living in hysterical terror. I hope it was really, really horrible.

411865 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 35, #1067 of 2096 🔗

Man fined £10,000 for pushing a pickled onion along the road with his nose.

A senior officer commented. “I understand peoples frustration but this sort of behaviour is extremely selfish and could lead to the death of four million babies

In the interests of public health I have instructed officers to punch the next person they find doing this”

411882 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Cecil B, 2, #1068 of 2096 🔗

Cecil, I love it.

411891 ▶▶ Freddy Freethinker, replying to Cecil B, 8, #1069 of 2096 🔗

Was he wearing his face nappy?

I’ve consulted with a lawyer friend and as I now understand it the walking of pet pickles is legally acceptable (possibly a loophole) so long as they are not gherkins and you are not making a wally of yourself.

412019 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Freddy Freethinker, 1, #1070 of 2096 🔗

And are wearing two masks and the onion has been sanitised.

412458 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Freddy Freethinker, 1, #1071 of 2096 🔗

It’s not a pet it’s a wild pickle, so therefore unlawful

412183 ▶▶ mj, replying to Cecil B, 2, #1072 of 2096 🔗

and when he finished speaking he said “That’s shallot, I walnut accept any argument or egging on “

411887 isobar, replying to isobar, 3, #1073 of 2096 🔗

Wtf? ‘Prof Lockdown’ says parts of UK could be in Tier One from May: Neil Ferguson hints summer could be ON, says Covid cases are falling faster than expected and hopes this will be the FINAL shutdown – despite warning social distancing may stay until 2022

411907 ▶▶ smithey, replying to isobar, 15, #1074 of 2096 🔗

What business of Ferguson’s is it to be speaking to the media about what Tier’s people will be in and what will and will not be allowed to do. He is only a government advisor and so should not be appearing in the media at all, all announcements such as this should be made through the proper Downing Street channels.

411926 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to smithey, 2, #1075 of 2096 🔗

Good point – as John Lee (I think) said this week – there was a time when government advisors kept schtum as a matter of principle.

411934 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to smithey, 4, #1076 of 2096 🔗

He’s an ignorant, arrogant, self-serving, unprofessional oik.

What’s more he is unelected and DISHONOURABLE.

412086 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Banjones, 1, #1077 of 2096 🔗

With bad dress sense.

411938 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to smithey, 2, #1078 of 2096 🔗

Totally agree, same goes for the rest of SAGE and or NERVTAG

411916 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 3, #1079 of 2096 🔗

He’s such an odd one. A few weeks ago he was saying that herd immunity might have been reached. It’s almost like he’s becoming slightly less pro-lockdown.

They are contradicting each other about every 5 minutes now. It’s horrendous.

Cases have been falling faster than expected for weeks now, has he only just noticed?

411929 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to A. Contrarian, 2, #1080 of 2096 🔗

He’s such an odd one.

I think ‘opportunist’ is the word.

412018 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to RickH, 2, #1081 of 2096 🔗

‘Slimeball’ is better.

411955 ▶▶ Freddy Freethinker, replying to isobar, 2, #1082 of 2096 🔗

G7 summit in June, Cornwall.

411964 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to isobar, #1083 of 2096 🔗

I thought this lockdown was longer so there wouldn’t be any more tiers. I think Pantsdown is trying to publicly influence Johnson.

411899 AidanR, replying to AidanR, 7, #1084 of 2096 🔗

This is going to be the most expensive humble pie the pro-lockdown people have ever made.


For those without access, text here: https://pastebin.com/3FucWYHq

411904 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to AidanR, 14, #1085 of 2096 🔗

If it postpones one death by a few minutes…

411909 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Ovis, 1, #1086 of 2096 🔗


411923 ▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Ovis, 7, #1087 of 2096 🔗

Exactly, if just one 101 year old mages to eek out another hour drooling in an old people’s home then it will have all been worthwhile

411911 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to AidanR, 3, #1088 of 2096 🔗

Nah, it’ll be because of coronavirus, not lockdown.

Still, it might make Rishi think twice before extending furlough yet again… or perhaps not.

411922 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to A. Contrarian, 3, #1089 of 2096 🔗

The unions already calling for furlough to be extended until the end of the year. Hopefully Sunak will say enough and turn off the free money, I doubt he will as you say.

411932 ▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Cumbriacracked, 1, #1090 of 2096 🔗

It beats me why Sunak has had such an easy ride of it. He is printing money hell for leather and in a few years no doubt will move onto another cushy overpaid job and leave the rest of us to sort of the mess of a bankrupt nation.

411937 ▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to smithey, 1, #1091 of 2096 🔗

Perhaps there’s ”someone” behind the scenes, either supplying the money or ready to bail us out.
I wonder who that could be?

411949 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to smithey, 4, #1092 of 2096 🔗

He is hopeless as a chancellor, no experience, always wants to raise taxes and not pro small business or the self employed. I am sure he will cave in and extend furlough.

He was put in as a yes man long before this madness.

412038 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Cumbriacracked, 1, #1093 of 2096 🔗

I can never understand why a multi millionaire married to the richest woman in Britain would want a job like Chancellor, looking after everybody else’s money.

Of course, I might also be cynical.

412119 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #1094 of 2096 🔗

Instictively, I want to stridently disagree with you.

But I’m afraid I cannot.

411956 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to smithey, 1, #1095 of 2096 🔗

I don’t think Sunk so to blame actually. He was handed a poisoned chalice. Under the circumstances I think he’s doing o.k. Johnson needs to sort out Wancock and the scientists.

411966 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Jo Dominich, 4, #1096 of 2096 🔗

I disagree, all he has done is hand out free money and ensure public sector workers do not have to worry about how to pay their mortgages as many others have. Sunak is as part of this as the others. By not resigning he is going along with everything. It’s very easy to just keep the printing presses going for quantative easing.

412014 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Cumbriacracked, 6, #1097 of 2096 🔗

He is the worst offender of the lot. He could end it tomorrow by turning off the money tap.

412182 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Annie, 1, #1098 of 2096 🔗

He’s probably been tipped the wink that there’s plenty more where THAT came from…

413082 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Annie, #1099 of 2096 🔗


413081 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Jo Dominich, #1100 of 2096 🔗

Do you not remember the years when Brown was Blair’s chancellor?

Brown ran domestic policy with an iron fist simply by controlling the money departments could have and what they could spend it on.

I’m not seeing any evidence that RS is using his powers in such a resourceful way. (assuming he is what he’s purported to be by those who have hope in him)

412075 ▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Cumbriacracked, #1101 of 2096 🔗

Printing press go brrrrrrrrrr
Get your savings out of stirling

412257 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Crystal Decanter, #1102 of 2096 🔗

And put it into what? EUR/USD are also printing press go brrrrrrrrrr.

412006 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1103 of 2096 🔗

Fishi doesn’t do thinking. Or arithmatic.

412139 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to A. Contrarian, 3, #1104 of 2096 🔗

It will morph seamlessly from Magic Money Tree to UBI and New World Order at the swipe of a pen …..

411973 ▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to AidanR, #1105 of 2096 🔗

Listening to the news (R4) this morning I was struck by how the report on the shrinking economy was swiftly moved on to a positive view about the ‘pent up demand’ that would deliver a speedy recovery. It was almost as if they were trying to placate listeners who might have noticed a link between ‘lockdowns’ and economic disaster.

412121 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to DJ Dod, 1, #1106 of 2096 🔗

Remember the V-shaped recovery?

412179 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to AidanR, #1107 of 2096 🔗

They won’t care so long as THEIR money keeps coming in. It seems to me that lockdown zealots must be the most selfish people alive.

411908 Freddy Freethinker, replying to Freddy Freethinker, 6, #1108 of 2096 🔗

If this great big charade is all a smokescreen for a failing International Monetary and Financial system then look no further than Deutsche Bank for the root cause back in September 2019. No one wanted to lend them money overnight.
Rife with dodgy dealings, dead bankers over the last decade and about 50 trillion in derivatives liabilities, most of it junk.


How long before the wibbly wobbly stack comes tumbling down?

My view now is act like a once derided prepper.

411918 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Freddy Freethinker, 6, #1109 of 2096 🔗

When it does come tumbling down I think it will be the final nail in the coffin for the European Union.

411960 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Freddy Freethinker, 5, #1110 of 2096 🔗

Douche Bank has a supermassive black hole of debt in its balance sheet. It is also intimately linked to the Bundesbank, the German Central Bank. The German economy is the only non-basket case economy in the EU. So yes, the EU is a zombie looking for a double tap. The UK bailed out of that shitshow at absolutely the right moment.

411976 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to GrannySlayer, 1, #1111 of 2096 🔗

China certainly would like the west to suffer financially, that has certainly happened and will continue. Planned or using it to their advantage?

412107 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Cumbriacracked, 3, #1112 of 2096 🔗

China have an industrial revolution underway and now have the highest standard of education in the world. They are also working to enrich their neighbours and trading partners.

In the west, we have no growth, little production, bullshit markets, paper promises, failing education and social entropy.

Most of the complaints I hear in the west about China are likely little more than sour grapes. If their vision is to enrich their local trading partners to in turn enrich themselves, why would they want to spend billions on the belt and road project and simultaneously prove themselves an untrustworthy trading partner by purposefully harming the west? It’s nonsense.

China is the future, they’re too busy building to give a fuck about us crying about yesterday’s glories, goading them politcally and smearing them with our gutter press.

Do you see anything like this in the west? Seriously?:


412055 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Freddy Freethinker, 3, #1113 of 2096 🔗

Am I a bad person for wanting to watch it all burn?

412294 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Crystal Decanter, 1, #1114 of 2096 🔗

no, it’s the only fun we’re likely to have left now

412719 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Crystal Decanter, #1115 of 2096 🔗

Fat Boy’s wonderful “trade agreement” probably has a subsection promising to pay half their CovviCosts that only appears when you hold it over a candle.

412680 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Freddy Freethinker, #1116 of 2096 🔗

My view now is act like a once derided prepper.

Sometimes, the difference between lunacy and genius is timing.

411913 alw, replying to alw, 14, #1117 of 2096 🔗

An in-depth analysis of the government’s covid vaccination strategy and their plans to reopen society. All makes perfect sense. Hope you feel reassured.

It only stops when we say it does.

Because the government don’t have a plan at all and never have had.


Just brilliant a must watch


412065 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to alw, 2, #1118 of 2096 🔗

Ha ha ha.

Brilliant video – to get this to all the people that believe that lockdowns will stop if they just get the jab

411928 danny, replying to danny, 24, #1119 of 2096 🔗

Ferguson (somehow still given a media platform) proudly announces that some areas might be in tier 1 by May.
1) tier one is still more restrictive than anything since WW2.
2) May? It is mid February now you deranged sadist.

411939 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to danny, 7, #1120 of 2096 🔗

Why should we be arsed to follow the rules if if their primogenitor Ferguson can’t be arsed to obey them, because he wants a cross-London shag with his bit on the side? And why did he go swanning off to North America to “spread the fear” back in early 2020, knowing what he claims to know about viral transmission…he was just adding to the risk, wasn’t he?

It seems epidemiologists are exempt from their own rules and advice – perhaps they have a weekly booze up together at Imperial College?

411953 ▶▶ Freddy Freethinker, replying to danny, 5, #1121 of 2096 🔗

G7 summit in Cornwall in June.

411959 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Freddy Freethinker, 4, #1122 of 2096 🔗

I do think keeping people in lockdown is one of the reasons to stop any protests at the G7 summit.

412184 ▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #1123 of 2096 🔗

And an excuse to cancel the May elections?

412004 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Freddy Freethinker, 3, #1124 of 2096 🔗

Ten day’s quarantine and imprisonment for liars?
Imprison the bloody lot, then.

412070 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to danny, 4, #1125 of 2096 🔗

Why are the schools not yet open?

Why are the english schools not opening after half term?

School closures = child abuse

412289 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Victoria, #1126 of 2096 🔗

cf a few years ago when some parents were imprisoned for taking their children out of school for a few weeks to go on a foreign holiday – apparently because this would cause irreparable damage to the child’s education

412362 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to danny, 1, #1127 of 2096 🔗

Let’s say, rather ”deranged UNELECTED sadist”.

411931 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 11, #1128 of 2096 🔗

The UK hotel quarantine system is a bit risky compared to the Australian approach because inmates will be able to go outside for “fresh air” (or a fag?) in the company of the security guard. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56037420

One Australian epidemiologist described allowing travellers quarantining in hotels to leave their rooms for fresh air as “very risky”. Prof Michael Toole said there was evidence of transmission when guests opened doors, and “with the positive pressure this kind of fog of virus went out into the corridor, travelled down and infected hotel staff”.
It comes as the Australian state of Victoria enters a five-day “circuit breaker” lockdown in a bid to suppress an outbreak linked to its hotel quarantine system.
Victorian Premier Dan Andrews said that the quarantine system would be further strengthened – all inmates will be placed in an induced coma for the length of their stay – this will help tackle the “hyper infectious” bastard mutant strains now appearing. It will also save money on the catering, he said.

Yes, I made up the last bit, but you get the idea.

411950 ▶▶ Julian, replying to godowneasy, 2, #1129 of 2096 🔗

I read something from South Korea that suggested the virus can circulate through the air con

412048 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Julian, 1, #1130 of 2096 🔗

Sars Cov1 seemed to really like air con by all accounts

412053 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Julian, 2, #1131 of 2096 🔗

Not just aircon:


Fine aerosols on the wind means:

SD – useless
Masks – useless
Lockdowns – useless

412192 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Julian, 2, #1132 of 2096 🔗

Viruses can circulate through anything.

412047 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to godowneasy, 3, #1133 of 2096 🔗

The safest place to be is outside. Without a mask.

411933 merlin, replying to merlin, 15, #1134 of 2096 🔗

Kim Jong-Dan has locked down Melbourne again . The source of the latest outbreak is one of the quarantine hotels. Tennis fans watching the djokovic vs Fritz match were also kicked out at 11.30pm , part way through the match. How much more light needs to be shone on these brainless fucktards for the masses to realise that they are taking the piss.


411947 ▶▶ Julian, replying to merlin, 10, #1135 of 2096 🔗

Yup, that’s the reality of the covid-zero lunacy – you think you are covid free and suddenly you’re not and you lock everything down again at short notice, ad nauseam

411952 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Julian, 2, #1136 of 2096 🔗

I think that’s a feature rather than a bug. Some people find the idea of a state mechanism to shut everything down and order everyone about at the drop of a hat very enticing.

411970 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Mark, 8, #1137 of 2096 🔗

Well, yes, a feature for those doing the ordering, but the carrot for some of the deluded here is that once we achieve zero-covid then things can be normal again – I see a lot of comments from people saying we should be like Aus or NZ, and I think they should reminded that the reality is very different

412360 ▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Julian, #1138 of 2096 🔗

As can be seen from the NZ website:

411965 ▶▶▶ merlin, replying to Julian, 7, #1139 of 2096 🔗

It’s pure mental illness. Matts Wilander mentions the crowd being kicked out in passing like it was a perfectly sensible step. We are being trolled by these arseholes.

412000 ▶▶ Annie, replying to merlin, 7, #1140 of 2096 🔗

Quarantine works really well, then.

411942 OKUK, replying to OKUK, 14, #1141 of 2096 🔗

Well we have another rubicon…if that’s metaphorically possible. Any MP who votes for vaccine passporting is voting for authoritatian globalism and against a return to sane normality.

411994 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to OKUK, 1, #1142 of 2096 🔗

You think they will actually get a vote. ?

412369 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Richy_m_99, #1143 of 2096 🔗

I’ve just written to my MP to ask her if she’s in favour of these diktats appearing without debate or scrutiny. She just spouts the party line though. Too comfortable on the gravy train, no doubt.
Sir Charles Walker seems to be on our side though.

411944 John Galt, replying to John Galt, 52, #1144 of 2096 🔗

If you want everything that’s going on to make sense, you need to learn about Technocracy. A book called “Technocracy Rising: The Trojan Horse of Global Transformation” by Patrick M. Wood is a good start.

To sum it up briefly – technocracy is the society they want to implement. They want us to be pawns in a global dictatorship ran by “experts” rather than elected politicians. They want us all to live in cities where they’ll track our energy usage and track our movements. I’ll break down each part as to how it applies to now:

Global dictatorship – we’re essentially living in a globalist world now, as we’re all restricted by the same thing.
Experts – none of us have voted for any of this, we’re just expected to listen to the “experts” and to follow their guidance.
Tracking our energy usage – think about the big push for smart meters and the implementation of smart motorways, amongst other things. Also their decade long onslaught of trying to shame us regarding “global warming” (which is a big part of this plan), will result in restrictions to our “energy usage”.
Track our movements – track and trace, surveillance on our smartphones, rumours about tracking chips etc.
Cities – the countryside is very inconvenient for them to track us. You may have seen an advert for NEOM, this is how they envision future life.

Once you learn about technocracy, which is what The Great Reset is, everything starts tying up. For example, you may think “how are they printing so much money? How do they intend on paying it back?” Well, they don’t intend on ever paying it back because they expect to move into a new society where past debt is irrelevant to them. You may also think “why are they flagrantly and blatantly violating laws?” And, again, they expect to move into a new society where their past transgressions are no longer challenged.

It surprises me to see comments on here with people still saying things like “why are the government not looking at the facts?” The top comment a couple of days ago was a long breakdown about how statisticians weren’t looking at the situation “rationally”. Rationality is an irrelevance, the truth is an irrelevance, it’s all an irrelevance because this is all for an agenda, and they’re pushing full steam ahead with it regardless of whether the “facts” match up or not.

411954 ▶▶ leggy, replying to John Galt, 5, #1145 of 2096 🔗

Spot on. An escape to the 3rd world might be the only option to avoid it.

412050 ▶▶▶ John Galt, replying to leggy, 7, #1146 of 2096 🔗

If they succeed, sure. Personally, I don’t think they will.

412115 ▶▶▶▶ leggy, replying to John Galt, 5, #1147 of 2096 🔗

Let’s hope you’re right. I have a very sceptical local friend who is of the same opinion – “They won’t get away with it this time”.

412125 ▶▶▶▶▶ John Galt, replying to leggy, 8, #1148 of 2096 🔗

My optimism comes from the fact that they’re attempting to make a world altering change in a short space of time. There’s so much to juggle and it’s based on such lies that it won’t take a lot for it to topple.

411990 ▶▶ Alice, replying to John Galt, 4, #1149 of 2096 🔗

I haven’t read the book, but my conclusions about recent events seem to agree with your summary of technocracy.

412057 ▶▶▶ John Galt, replying to Alice, 7, #1150 of 2096 🔗

Once you start looking at recent events with this in mind, everything ties up, doesn’t it.

It’s why I’ve stopped paying attention to the minutiae they throw at us – it’s all just a distraction so we get bogged down and don’t see the big picture.

412045 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to John Galt, 3, #1151 of 2096 🔗

Parts of S America are quite nice
It isn’t all shanty towns

412069 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to John Galt, 3, #1152 of 2096 🔗

A v good book, I’ve just read it

Did someone say kier starmer is a member of the tri-lateral commission?

412114 ▶▶ captainbeefheart, replying to John Galt, 5, #1154 of 2096 🔗

I’m still baffled as to why so many people can’t see / don’t want to see this

(well, no one wants to see it, but it’s there)

412142 ▶▶▶ John Galt, replying to captainbeefheart, 11, #1155 of 2096 🔗

For people who post on this site and sites like this, I agree, there’s really no excuse to stay ignorant towards it. This is why the main updates are useless now – they’ve decided that they’re not going to cross that line, so any updates are now just about frivolous nonsense that, like I said below, they just throw at us to baffle us. On other forums we were discussing vaccine passports last April, so to see the main updates portraying them as some kind of new idea is just completely laughable.

For people who are ignorant towards the whole thing, I think it’s a mixture of a couple of key things. The first is that it goes entirely and completely against what they believe, so to even consider for a second that it could be true would completely wreck their world view and subsequently their entire psyche. The second is that without any prior knowledge it’s quite a complex subject. As I was reading the book I kept thinking “how are we going to get this across to the masses?”

412364 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to captainbeefheart, 1, #1156 of 2096 🔗

Me too. But it’s a kind of denial. It’s too uncomfortable. Much easier to throw insults about ”incompetence” and so on.

411946 Steeve, replying to Steeve, 1, #1157 of 2096 🔗

The pfizer information for recipient was updated on 26/01/21 the only difference(what I noticed anyway) from the Dec leaflet is a strange one


After dilution, the vial contains 6 doses , of 0.3 mL with 30 micrograms mRNA each.

12/2020 states

After dilution, the vial contains 5 doses of 0.3ml with 30 micrograms mRNA each.

A bit of meaningless information.

Maybe the vials got bigger?

412011 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Steeve, 1, #1158 of 2096 🔗

That is very strange.
Unless, like you said, they made larger vials, that dose not seem possible. I am not an expert, but Dr Schmidt-Krueger in the Coronaauschuss already talked about this.
During trials it showed that 10mg is effective with less side effects, and doing 30mg per dose is a purely political decision. She did say you can dilute it more, ergo less mg, to get more jabs out of a vial.
Would be interesting to get an explanation.
I posted earlier that a region in Germany wants to do 7 doses per vial, so they can jab more people.

412044 ▶▶▶ Steeve, replying to Silke David, #1159 of 2096 🔗

Thanks for the reply – strange got stranger! (7doses)

412097 ▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Steeve, 1, #1160 of 2096 🔗

Update from German news website:
Usually there are drags left in a vial, if there is enough to make another dose, use it. Do not use drags from several vials to make a dose.
I guess the machines filling the vials are not very good.
Not really the answer to the instruction leaflet, but one explantion.

412031 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Steeve, 1, #1161 of 2096 🔗

It is so they can charge more. The vial contains the same amount, which Pfizer had assessed as five doses, but the NHS were getting six doses out of each vial.

412059 ▶▶▶ Steeve, replying to Steve Hayes, #1162 of 2096 🔗

Hi Steve Who is charging more?

411957 Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, 3, #1163 of 2096 🔗

ONS Coronavirus Infection Survey UK February 2021 now out, which gives an indication of prevalence of SARS-C0V-2 in a cross-section of the community.


First thing to say is that despite the survey’s name, this doesn’t actually measure infections because most of the positives are ‘false positives’ for example people who have no symptoms, or only have detectable viral fragments not live virus (and that’s ignoring any test contamination issues).

The positivity rate is the percentage of people who have tested positive for COVID-19 at a point in time. We use current COVID-19 infections to mean testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, with or without having symptoms, on a swab taken from the nose and throat. This is different to the incidence rate, which is a measure of only the new infections in a given time period

For example 75% of the positives have a cycle thresholds above 26.6 whereas live virus is highly unlikely at a cycle threshold above 25. It is possible that live virus is actually roughly equivalent to a positive at a cycle threshold below about 20 which would mean only 10% of the positives are true infections. So between 10 and 20% of the positives are genuine infections perhaps.

First here is the positive test prevalence by nation. Ignore the modelled estimates but just look at the official reported estimates. Falling in all nations.

411962 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, 2, #1164 of 2096 🔗

Regional PCR positive prevalence attached here

The percentage of people testing positive has decreased in London, the South East, North West, North East, and the South West in the week ending 30 January 2021

411967 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, 3, #1165 of 2096 🔗

Positive prevalence by age attached. The ONS describe this as

The percentage testing positive has decreased in England in all age groups except in those aged over 70 years
I might alternatively describe it as ‘The percentage testing positive has decreased in England in all age groups except in those where vaccination has been concentrated’

411971 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Freecumbria, 3, #1166 of 2096 🔗

Thank you for the info, very interesting.

411987 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Freecumbria, 6, #1167 of 2096 🔗

Useful information, Freecumbria. Well done.

One thing that needs to be mentioned is the overall picture : this virus, even at worst, is not very prevalent.

412010 ▶▶▶▶ Portnadler, replying to RickH, 4, #1168 of 2096 🔗

I still don’t know anyone personally or have actually met anyone who has had it or anyone that I did know who has died from it.


412102 ▶▶▶▶▶ Luckyharry69, replying to Portnadler, 1, #1169 of 2096 🔗

a friend’s friend of mine has got it…but to be fair he has been ill on and off for years……that’s the only person I know of…….

412177 ▶▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Portnadler, #1170 of 2096 🔗

I’ve known loads – I think because I know a lot of people in other countries, but I also know some in the UK, – and it’s just a cold

412062 ▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to RickH, #1171 of 2096 🔗

Positive test prevalence in community is about 1 in 80 in England according to ONS. Only 1 in 10 of the positives are positives with symptoms and Ct below about 20 perhaps.

Then that’s at a guess around 1 in 800 in the community testing positive for ‘live’ virus at a recent point in time. Most of those will have mild symptoms. In a typical town you might only have the odd person in the community needing to be hospitalised with severe symptoms at the moment. The rest are likely to be nosocomial and care home cases.

412008 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, #1172 of 2096 🔗

Regional prevalence to 6th February 2021 (corrected)

The percentage of people testing positive has decreased in all regions except for the South West in the week ending 6 February 2021

412009 ▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Freecumbria, 1, #1173 of 2096 🔗

But yet nearly all the over 70’s got jabbed.

412100 ▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Freecumbria, 1, #1174 of 2096 🔗

That will never do, will it? New ‘lethal’ variant incoming in 3… 2… 1…

411972 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, 1, #1175 of 2096 🔗

And positive test prevalence of the new variant by nation.

Still looking from the data like the new variant isn’t more transmissible, despite what we hear.

411989 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, #1176 of 2096 🔗

Whoops have posted last weeks figures. Will post this weeks shortly

411998 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, 1, #1177 of 2096 🔗

National prevalence to 6th February 2021 (corrected)

412017 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, #1178 of 2096 🔗

Positive prevalence by age to 6th Feb (corrected)

412024 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, #1179 of 2096 🔗

And new variant positive prevalence to 6th Feb (corrected)

412067 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, #1180 of 2096 🔗

And corrected link to the 12th February survey (previous link was to 5th Feb)


411981 Stephen Williams, replying to Stephen Williams, 5, #1181 of 2096 🔗

I’ve read the conditions for returning to the UK and it seems if you don’t complete the form it’s a criminal offence. As they are threatening to prosecute people under the Forgeries Act then not forging something is now arrestable. So will I be put in prison for which I don’t have to pay £1,750?

I am not over worried about catching covid but I am worried about catching it by being locked up in an air conditioned hotel not designed as a medical or isolation facility in any way. Bit like a care home really but it’s awful to say that.

412041 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Stephen Williams, 2, #1182 of 2096 🔗

No, it’s quite right to say that – what has gone on in care homes amounts to manslaughter at the least.

411982 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 6, #1183 of 2096 🔗

It’s all of a piece with the Global Action Plan, Agenda 21 and Agenda 30. All for the Common Good and nothing else. It has nothing to do with health, wellness and all those other Woke, PC clichés.

411995 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #1184 of 2096 🔗

No Mardi Gras in New Orleans this year. Order from the Mayor’s office.

412012 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to bebophaircut, 4, #1185 of 2096 🔗

I have friends in New Orleans. One of them posted this the other day:

No parades. No bars. No go-cups. No loitering.Yes, it hurts that Mardi Gras won’t be the same this year, but it’s for the greater good.

I asked if he thought it’d be any different next year. His reply?

I honestly don’t know. Seems like there has been less resistance to distancing and masks lately,so here’s to hoping.

Yes, they’re a bit woke. I didn’t see any point in pushing it further.

412061 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #1186 of 2096 🔗


411986 Cristi.Neagu, replying to Cristi.Neagu, 7, #1187 of 2096 🔗

Can anyone please explain why we’re saying it’s a U-turn that government now wants vaccine passports?

Also, can anyone explain why the British, who have been so adamant against ID cards which are actually useful, are taking this laying down?

411993 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to Cristi.Neagu, 2, #1188 of 2096 🔗

Is anyone here saying it’s a u-turn? You would have needed to believe them when they claimed they had no plans to introduce vaccine passports in order to think of it as such.

412640 ▶▶▶ gina, replying to Charlie Blue, 1, #1189 of 2096 🔗

Nadhim Zahawi expressly and clearly stated in a number of interviews, only a week or two ago, that vaccine passports would not be introduced as they were discriminatory and not the ‘British way.’
I’ve written to him today to ask why he’s changed his mind since he made those statements and some follow on questions.
I would urge people to write to him expressing their alarm and opposition to any kind of vaccine passport.
Though writing emails doesn’t change what is done, it does at least give MP’s and ministers some sense that not everyone agrees with their actions – and they will never be able to say, come the reckoning, they did not know there was any opposition to their actions.

412774 ▶▶▶ Cristi.Neagu, replying to Charlie Blue, #1190 of 2096 🔗

Yes… it’s at the very top of the page… Did you even read the update?

412016 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Cristi.Neagu, 5, #1191 of 2096 🔗

ID cards are useful – for whom?

412020 ▶▶▶ muzzle, replying to Steve Hayes, 7, #1192 of 2096 🔗

Indeed. I know who I am so it’s not for my benefit.

412770 ▶▶▶▶ Cristi.Neagu, replying to muzzle, #1193 of 2096 🔗

So you’ve never opened a bank account, then.

412769 ▶▶▶ Cristi.Neagu, replying to Steve Hayes, #1194 of 2096 🔗

For anyone who’s ever had to provide proof of ID or proof of address.

412032 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Cristi.Neagu, 5, #1195 of 2096 🔗

Anyone with any firing neurons knew that the Government was lying

412042 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Cristi.Neagu, 2, #1196 of 2096 🔗

Also, can anyone explain why the British, who have been so adamant against ID cards which are actually useful, are taking this laying down?

Great question

412702 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Cristi.Neagu, #1197 of 2096 🔗

Fuck off with the ‘useful’.

412767 ▶▶▶ Cristi.Neagu, replying to JohnB, #1198 of 2096 🔗

As some how has had an ID since i was 18, and who has had to deal with the backwards “proof of address, proof of ID” system in the UK, filled with people that can’t write down a name properly with a passport in front of them… Trust me, it’s useful. What exactly is your problem with it?

413016 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Cristi.Neagu, #1199 of 2096 🔗

If you need to ask, you’re part of the problem.

411991 Mark, replying to Mark, 7, #1200 of 2096 🔗

Hector Drummond is correct :

Hector Drummond, Gone to Gab

The @Telegraph is lying again. Their graph says the UK’s worst economic collapse in 300 years was caused by coronavirus. That’s funny, because Sweden also had coronavirus and never locked down and they didn’t have a crash like this. Sick of legacy media.

https:// telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/ 02/12/economy-shrinks-99pc-record-annual-contraction/

412135 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Mark, 6, #1201 of 2096 🔗

Any economic damage was due to the responses and lockdowns, not due to the virus.
If everyone had stayed open, there would have been no contraction anywhere, no debt explosion and none of the millions of deaths solely due to Western lockdowns in the 3rd world.
Every lockdown supporter has their blood on their hands, for good.
But then, thye know or even avtively wanted just that.

412138 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to JayBee, #1202 of 2096 🔗

Of course. Claiming coronavirus caused lockdown consequences is like claiming a spider set fire to this fellow’s house:


412143 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Mark, 2, #1203 of 2096 🔗

Minus 10% with a gov debt/GDP ratio increase of 20% is a true contraction of 30%.
In an economy with an unchanged government sector and a previous equal 50% share for it and for the private sector, the real damage was minus 60% for the private sector.
That’s the true size and distribution of the economic destruction and the rebuilding task at hand.

412203 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Mark, 2, #1204 of 2096 🔗

Get over there and comment while you can. if they keep having to shut down comments due to all the dissidents (us) eventually they will realise they are committing suicide.

411997 Andrew K, replying to Andrew K, 15, #1205 of 2096 🔗

I’ve lost all hope, you give people medical papers tat show an alternate side to the project fear narrative, and your a conspiracy theorist! You know what, I will probably be killed and stripped of my assets soon enough but at least I will die a free man in my mind. These sheeple who are asleep will get a very big shock soon enough.

412034 ▶▶ merlin, replying to Andrew K, 12, #1206 of 2096 🔗

We will win. I refuse to let the bastards get me down. If you can see the fraud then others will eventually see it as well.

412043 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to merlin, 5, #1207 of 2096 🔗

Wouldn’t be so sure sadly . The Sheep are beyond saving in the UK . Accept it

412282 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to merlin, 2, #1208 of 2096 🔗

Ae will win. Despite the sheeples. Let them hide under the bed for ever and ever.

412074 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Andrew K, 6, #1209 of 2096 🔗

Carry on hoping. What we need is good old Saxon stubbornness. It takes a lot to fire it up but it’s in there somewhere, as Kipling said:

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late
With long arrears to make good,
When the English began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy-willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the English began to hate.

Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the English began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred,
It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the English began to hate.

There will be a final straw that tips the balance – in fact handcock’s ridiculous 10 year sentence has already moved it our way – earlier last year you gov were reporting overwhelming support for government policy – by this week it was down to half and half.

412164 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Andrew K, 3, #1210 of 2096 🔗

the problem is I like some of the sheeple and don’t want to see them murdered

412002 Richard O, replying to Richard O, 24, #1211 of 2096 🔗


Excellent video embedded in this article of Italians harassing police to get the fuck out of a restaurant they are eating in. No face nappies in sight (apart from the scumbag police). Wonderful stuff. Nothing like this in the UK of course, and there never will be. We are one of the most supine, compliant, brainwashed countries in the world. Pathetic. The problem is, the longer we leave peaceful protests of non-compliance like this, the greater the need there will be for more extreme acts of resistance further down the line to turn things around.

412026 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Richard O, 5, #1212 of 2096 🔗

The Italians have a long proud history of throwing out their Governments

412091 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Crystal Decanter, 5, #1213 of 2096 🔗

Usually once a year.

412244 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #1214 of 2096 🔗

Like Belgium, things generally run better between governments.

412277 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Crystal Decanter, 1, #1215 of 2096 🔗

Very good point.
The UK has a long history of stable government. On the whole (said with all due caution) it has been better government than in many other countries, more stable and more respected.
Sadly, this means that now we have a thoroughly bad and wicked government, it’s harder for us to kick against it than it is in most other countries.
Maybe we’ll have to wIt until Bozo and his foul gang are the only Covvifascist tyranny left in the western world. If so, I hope their eventual humiliation will be the most abject.The worst government in British history.

412030 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Richard O, 18, #1216 of 2096 🔗

It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain

That’s the spirit the likes of Toby Young, Peter Hitchens and TalkRadio need to be displaying. Ruat caelum.

These laws are wrongful, and it is our duty to disobey them.

Easy for me to say, you might suggest, because I’m not in the public eye. Ok, But I break these laws every single day if I can find a way to do so. I have never worn a mask. I’ve continued training weekly throughout, with a couple of like-minded friends. I’ve eaten out to support a business defying these laws, and I will do so again when the opportunity comes. I’m prepared to take the consequences, when they come. Those who have the privilege of a public platform have the higher duty thereby.

Things have gone too far already. It’s time for dissidents to put their money where their mouths are, because any other way out than forcing things by mass disobedience leaves the perpetrators unpunished and the laws and structures in place for next time.

No liberty, no compliance!

412040 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Mark, 9, #1217 of 2096 🔗

We will never EVER protest or bring about action like the Europeans . As a country / populace we are finished !!!

412066 ▶▶▶▶ merlin, replying to Harry Chara, 7, #1218 of 2096 🔗

The sheep are 90pct , they are fickle and will easily change their position( and forget their previous position). Only need to convince 10pct. We are far from finished.

412104 ▶▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to merlin, 6, #1219 of 2096 🔗

Any revolution has only ever needed 10%

412697 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Crystal Decanter, #1220 of 2096 🔗

Fewer, as active participants anyhow.

412052 ▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Richard O, 7, #1221 of 2096 🔗

One part of that post amazed me was this item from Simon Dolan :
‘Britain has ceased to be a free country and we must do everything in our power to get our freedoms back. Is it right to comply with laws which are so damaging and wrong? If enough businesses are to take a stand and open, the rules would have to change, as they have done in other countries.’
Dolan champions SMEs (small and medium-sized enterprises) which make up ‘the lifeblood of our economy’ and he is heavily critical of the government’s Covid loan scheme. The general public may be unaware but these loans have sky-high interest rates of up to 35 per cent.

3%% interest rates? . people have been imprisoned for loan sharking for less surely.
Why does this Govt hate small businesses so much? It can’t be due to some political dogma can it? or if not that then there must be a financial motive underlying ths crusade against cafes , shops , hairdressers and all those who provide beneficial and appreciated services to te community .

412088 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to mikewaite, 5, #1222 of 2096 🔗

It’s all part of the Global Action Plan. AI robots will cut your hair, polish your nails and give you relaxing massages. The government is just full of cretins who cannot think critically.

412156 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to mikewaite, 3, #1223 of 2096 🔗

Speaking as a small business owner who looked into the loan situation, I haven’t seen any 35% loans. The ‘bounce back’ loans are actually 0% interest for the first year and then 2.5% interest. BUT once again they are biased towards larger businesses as the loan amount is based on your annual turnover. If you have just a part time business that turns over less than £8000 you won’t get a loan. Also many smaller businesses, especially those without business accounts, have been turned down. I can’t help but think its just another way for comfortably well off people to get easy cheap money.

412084 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Richard O, 6, #1224 of 2096 🔗

Puts all those jokes about Italians being cowards into perspective.

412033 Harry Chara, replying to Harry Chara, 17, #1225 of 2096 🔗

I got a SMS from my Doctor’s Surgery to ask me do I want my Vaxx . Instructions to reply YES or NO to the text . Put NO 5 times and the message was unable to send . Looks like the System won’t even accept my reply hahahahahhahah . They don’t like what they hear lol

412083 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Harry Chara, 8, #1226 of 2096 🔗

It’s a hidden survey. Don’t answer yes or no. It’s none of their business. Ignore them. Every time you or anyone else answers one of their queries it spurs them on to continue their insidious intrusion in our private lives.

412096 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to bebophaircut, 6, #1227 of 2096 🔗

100% ignore the stab merchants for as long as possible

412231 ▶▶ fiery, replying to Harry Chara, #1228 of 2096 🔗

People really do need to block their GPs number on their phone or alternatively ring up, say you’ve changed your number and make one up.

412752 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Harry Chara, #1229 of 2096 🔗

Have you tried typing UNSUBSCRIBE?

412039 Markus Skepticus, replying to Markus Skepticus, 8, #1230 of 2096 🔗

Say it all, really.

412049 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Markus Skepticus, 10, #1231 of 2096 🔗

35…..dog years????

412056 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Markus Skepticus, 6, #1232 of 2096 🔗

That’s a big baby.

412058 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Markus Skepticus, 14, #1233 of 2096 🔗


412072 ▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Markus Skepticus, 9, #1234 of 2096 🔗

Surprised they were able to fit a mask around that neck.
What a nasty thing to say you cry – but if he had denied himself a few pies he might have saved an 85 year old from dying due to being coerced into accepting a lethal vaccine injection., So i am not sorry for being so unsympathetic.

412073 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Markus Skepticus, 1, #1235 of 2096 🔗

They took away their Whisky.

412085 ▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Markus Skepticus, 6, #1236 of 2096 🔗

That man is NOT in his 30s

412126 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to TheHandbag, 2, #1237 of 2096 🔗

It’s what frying Mars bars does to you…

412093 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Markus Skepticus, 8, #1238 of 2096 🔗

Maybe he identifies as a 30 yr old transageist

412134 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Markus Skepticus, #1239 of 2096 🔗

That guy is a year younger than me. He should be ashamed of himself. The problem is, in Scotland in particular, the public are also fat gluttons, so don’t see it as the health issue it so obviously is.

412495 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Markus Skepticus, 1, #1240 of 2096 🔗

He is wearing a “high pressure oxygen mask”…
Looks like it.


412529 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Markus Skepticus, #1241 of 2096 🔗

35 years my arse. That’s more like 55 going on 60… morbidly obese and never gave a crap about his health. Nevertheless I wish him well… fuck theMSM.

412755 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Markus Skepticus, #1242 of 2096 🔗

Why are they pumping him up with air?

412046 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 19, #1243 of 2096 🔗

Disney cancels Gina Carana for stating historical fact:

Carano ignited fresh fury on Tuesday night when she shared a post implying that conservatives are treated like Jews in Nazi Germany.
“Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children,” the post said. “Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?”

Sound familiar?

412051 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 3, #1244 of 2096 🔗

Sorry, Gina Carano.

412071 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 3, #1245 of 2096 🔗

Lucasfilms supported the ban. George Lucas: from THX 1138 to Star Wars to Hollywood Liberalism and Woke Culture to Cancel Culture Totalitarianism.

412064 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to bebophaircut, 8, #1246 of 2096 🔗

I liked the Babylon Bee’s take:

To Prove Cancel Culture Doesn’t Exist, Disney Fires Actress Who Condemned Cancel Culture


412079 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to GrannySlayer, 2, #1247 of 2096 🔗

Hasn’t she already gone to the Daily Wire?
Gina will make bank from this if she is savvy

412272 ▶▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to GrannySlayer, #1248 of 2096 🔗

My pronouns are beep/bop/boop.

412123 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to bebophaircut, 4, #1249 of 2096 🔗

As a German, I can confirm her statement and supply plenty of evidence, even from family records.
No one says we are at the killing stage yet, which is what the Liberals always seem to comply when any such comparisons are made and makebthem get a tantrum, but the parallels to its prequel are unquestionable, which is what she stated eloquently and correctly.

412054 Johnsontown, replying to Johnsontown, 16, #1250 of 2096 🔗

Headline article on the BBC website:

“Levels of coronavirus are going down in all four nations of the UK, latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show.

The data provides more evidence that lockdown is working to control the virus, even [with] the more infectious variants circulating.”

The first paragraph is a statement of fact (okay, we can argue about how “levels of coronavirus” are measured and whether the tests are accurate etc, but it is at least an accurate description according to the ONS metric).

The second paragraph is an interpretation of that fact, presented as though it were unambiguously true, without any nuance or challenge. Levels of coronavirus are coming down: this must be due to the lockdown “controlling” it. The counterfactual – that they would be coming down even without the lockdown, or perhaps that the lockdown may be playing a part but only a minor one – is not considered.

This is not objective reporting; it is simply pushing the contentious narrative that lockdowns work, without putting any alternative view across. Imagine them saying: “This has been the coldest January in the UK for some years; this data provides further evidence that climate change is a myth”. The BBC would never report like this and rightly so: it would be a contentious and disputed claim.

412068 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Johnsontown, 4, #1251 of 2096 🔗

yes. coming down at the exactly same time all for the whole the world

lockdown is literally the last thing I’d think of


412081 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Johnsontown, 5, #1252 of 2096 🔗

Yep, typical BBC subjective propaganda. No mention of seasonality or, as Steve mentions, universality.

412087 ▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to OKUK, 2, #1253 of 2096 🔗

Or the lockdown intentionally being juxtaposed with already falling figures.

412092 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Johnsontown, 9, #1254 of 2096 🔗

The BBC would never report like this and rightly so: it would be a contentious and disputed claim.” They would never say climate change was a myth but a lot of what is presented as fact is contentious and disputed. The BBC is a full-on propaganda organisation now. Just look at their news pages and half the pieces are obvious attempts to push an agenda

412112 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Johnsontown, 3, #1255 of 2096 🔗

A look at Sweden would also immediately nullify their conclusion.
They know that, and that’s why they double-down on doing it.
Same in Germany at the press conference today.
Over there, they have either gone completely mad, or are taking the p*ss out of the people in a most obvious and ever absurder fashion, probably to test how far can they still go with these absurdities.
They now changed the totalky arbitrary and mesningless incidence number from 50 to 35 before they’d consider loosening restrictions, and Wieler, the Whitty equivalent, seriously spouted that we should now try to eradicate all illnesses and stay shut until that’s achieved.
What can you say?!

412105 Sarigan (Day 326 of lockdown), replying to Sarigan (Day 326 of lockdown), 6, #1256 of 2096 🔗


An in-depth analysis of the government’s covid vaccination strategy and their plans to reopen society. All makes perfect sense. Hope you feel reassured.

412304 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to Sarigan (Day 326 of lockdown), 1, #1257 of 2096 🔗

I’m going to transcribe this, it’s absolutely brilliant. Completely demolishing the case for the fake vaccines in less than a minute, and with humour.

412106 B.F.Finlayson, 9, #1258 of 2096 🔗

Levels of coronavirus are going down in all four nations of the UK, latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show.

The data provides more evidence that lockdown is working to control the virus , even with the more infectious variants circulating. BBC News Online.

One more time – no it does not prove lockdowns are working! It simply confirms what I and many others have saying since last Summer that C19 figures (projected or otherwise) have been deviously mapped onto previous years’ data for flu and other respiratory infections. As I stated on here a couple of weeks back the C19 will begin falling in Feb, and then drastically tail off in March. No vax, no lockdown, no masks – it’s just going to happen and you can’t stop it.
Meanwhile Bojo, SAGE & the BBC keep trying to play at Columbus taking the moon away. .

412108 Paul, replying to Paul, 34, #1259 of 2096 🔗

My wife has just been pretty much thrown out of our gp surgery because she refused to wear a muzzle.She has a medical reason for being exempt,and the bloody surgery knows that,she was wearing her exemption lanyard but the receptionist said exemptions do not apply on surgery property with no exceptions at all.
My wife tried to stand her ground but they would not budge and told her to leave.My wife is the nicest,kindest and most gentle person I know and the way she was treated was disgraceful,she is upset and quite distressed by what happened,I am absolutely livid.
They said to her.’can’t you just wear a mask just this once ?,it won’t be for long’,bastards !.
We have been at this surgery for 30 years and know the receptionist well and this is how my wife gets treated.
I want to take this further but I don’t know who to complain to,not that I think it will make any difference,I would be grateful to anyone who could point me in the right direction.
My wife goes to a hospital clinic and they have always been perfectly happy with her exemption and she has never once had a problem.
I really want to fight back against the insanity more than ever now,I mean actually physically fight back,being nice,calm and reasonable has got us nowhere.

412118 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Paul, 4, #1260 of 2096 🔗

Buy a WW2 gas mask on ebay and go full satire

412132 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Crystal Decanter, 3, #1261 of 2096 🔗

Provo-spec ski mask gets my vote.

412128 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to Paul, 7, #1262 of 2096 🔗

You can write to the GP Practice manager with a complaint. If you want to go beyond that then I think Citizens Advice website have info about making GP and NHS complaints.

412130 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Paul, 8, #1263 of 2096 🔗

Bastards. Sounds like a good case for a discrimination case.

412131 ▶▶ Paulus, replying to Paul, 3, #1264 of 2096 🔗

Check this website – they have a number of similar cases:


412159 ▶▶ Sodastream, replying to Paul, 2, #1265 of 2096 🔗

That’s truly disgusting and it happens where I work (nhs hospital) the staff have been known to say exactly the same. I’m so sorry for your wife .
There’s a great website miriaf.webs.uk where Miriam had done excellent template letters including one for being turned away at the gp surgery for not wearing a mask.
I fine it difficult when I’m upset and angry to compose a complaint so these templates help a lot .

412165 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Paul, 2, #1266 of 2096 🔗

Sorry to hear this Paul. This is atrocious.
Agree with other comments – probably the first port of call is to complain, formally and purposefully, to the Practice Manager.
I believe that actions of said Receptionist will almost certainly constitute a hate crime, but don’t take my word for it, your local police will likely have more info on their website. if that’s a road you wanted to explore.

412200 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Paul, 1, #1267 of 2096 🔗

Next time go wearing full hazmat suit.

412210 ▶▶ Steeve, replying to Paul, 5, #1268 of 2096 🔗

Before writing a complaint you could ask them for their medical proof/documents that masks work. At the end of the day being asked to wear a mask is a medical intervention. Before writing you could also ask for a written statement that a consultation was refused because of not wearing a mask and that they(the practice) do not recognise exemptions..They have said this verbally but they should also be willing put this in writing. It would also be worth getting help in constructing any letter so that it has a legal tone.

412670 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Steeve, #1269 of 2096 🔗

In writing is sensible. Always record these incidents if possible.

412229 ▶▶ Achilles, replying to Paul, #1270 of 2096 🔗

I’ll be sure to give them a clap on Thursday. Bloody heroes.

412331 ▶▶ ituex, replying to Paul, 2, #1271 of 2096 🔗

Write to the practice manager, the senior partner and the Primary Care Trust.
Oh and get a mask that says ‘ I hate the NHS’ or ‘ The NHS is Useless’, ‘ Defund the NHS’ then they will ask you to take it off.

413086 ▶▶▶ Woden, replying to ituex, #1272 of 2096 🔗

Couldn’t the receptionist be sued personally under the Equalities Act?

412418 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Paul, 2, #1273 of 2096 🔗

Fire off letters to everybody. Don’t take this lying down. Good luck to you, nd all sympathy to your lovely wife.

412663 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Paul, #1274 of 2096 🔗

A half-brick through their window is one response.

412763 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Paul, #1275 of 2096 🔗
412828 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Paul, #1276 of 2096 🔗

Government guidance says if you’re exempt you don’t have to wear a mask. So ask the surgery if they are intentionally breaking government guidelines.

See ( https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own )

There’s also a Cabinet Office document saying the same, but in more forthright terms. I’d hazard a guess that if they deny a non mask wearer entry, they are breaking the law. Maybe they would like to think about that.

412110 Silke David, replying to Silke David, 14, #1277 of 2096 🔗

Just saw on the Not on the Beeb FB that apparently a court has declared closing of bars and restaurants in Basque country illegal as there is no evidence they are a spreader.
Can still be overturned by a higher court, but for now they are open and setting a precedent for other areas.

412120 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Silke David, 3, #1278 of 2096 🔗

Is that North East Spain? Old ETA stomping grounds? Huge ruling if that’s the case. Spain have had it bad in terms of restrictions.

412423 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to leggy, 1, #1279 of 2096 🔗

It isn’t generally wise to mess with Basques.

412660 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Annie, 1, #1280 of 2096 🔗

Best not to restrict them to just one way out – a bad idea to put all your Basques in one exit.

<< coat >>

412111 AidanR, replying to AidanR, 14, #1281 of 2096 🔗

Thinking of getting a shirt printed.


412144 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to AidanR, 4, #1282 of 2096 🔗

Britain is Pfizer’s rape victim.

412150 ▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to AidanR, 1, #1283 of 2096 🔗


412175 ▶▶ l835, replying to AidanR, 2, #1284 of 2096 🔗

Mine will be “I’m fucking exempt, don’t even think about asking”

412655 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to l835, #1285 of 2096 🔗


412194 ▶▶ Mark, replying to AidanR, #1286 of 2096 🔗

Make it with a cartoon of a bruised and tearful union jack and that list of characteristics of an abusive relationship that applied so well to lockdown Britain.

412206 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to AidanR, #1287 of 2096 🔗

I don’t want that man associated with Scotland. If anybody is doing any battering it’s the Scots.

412136 bebophaircut, #1288 of 2096 🔗

In Mark Windows Lies Go Viral- For The Common Good From: Windows on the World
11 1 9 months ago
At minute 19 he calls Matt Hancock a dreary liar and other choice putdowns, but he doesn’t stop there. Further on, he suggests ridicule as a way to fight back. I’ve checked the Science Boris, you are a robotic liar.

412140 Niborxof, 1, #1289 of 2096 🔗

According to the PRB, the number of people born since the beginning of time is c. 108Billion (2019). With millenia of cumulative experience , of those c. 108BN Billion were ‘lockdown skeptics’ . Who do you think are the extremists, them or Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock and their ilk globally? I think we all know where the next few Billion will sit. We are all in good company.

412145 TheHandbag, replying to TheHandbag, 12, #1290 of 2096 🔗

Here’s some ideas for passive insurrection.

1.) Stop sending your kids to virtual school. Turn on the BBC remote offering (it’s total shite, but state mandated). Tell the school you are still here and you will NOT be deregistering. They will have to involve the Child Missing Education team. You will eventually be given a School Attendance Order. At which point, turn up at the school, en masse and it’s job done. You cannot compel school attendance if you don’t provide a school.

2.) Concurrent to this, turn of the microphone setting off on every app on your phone and tablet, and stick something over your camera. (It’ll come off with an alcohol wipe anyway).

3.) Cancel news subscriptions and just jump from free sub to free sub for as long as it takes to see what you need.

4.) Get a shortwave radio and just listen to the World Service. (Very relaxing when it’s not genocide).

5.) Sit out on your corridor/balcony/front garden without your phone or any other digital media for an hour every day at the same time and chat to your neighbours. Be sure to keep 2 m distance. Call it “Chat for ourselves” or WhatsUpp Covid Support group.

6.) FOR GOD’s SAKE OLDER GENERATION (65 plus), get out there and be counted. Demo outside NHS buildings and schools. I suggest a placed that simply says, “Not in my name.”. Nice and simple. Stand 2 meters away and be sure to wear your lanyard that says, “under the equalities act I have the right to self-identify abs don’t have to explain a thing to you”.

7.) We fatties need to get the heck on and shed some tonnage. So that COVID can’t find any more victims, and pharmaceutical companies run out of idiots to feed with statins etc.

8.) Get a VPN. Use encrypted apps for communication. Just shut as many doors as is takes for all the parasites that are making money out of this manufactured crisis to crawl back into their holes.

412174 ▶▶ PWL, replying to TheHandbag, 2, #1291 of 2096 🔗

Take your children out of the hands of the state once and for all.

Let My People Go; How Organising In A Legally Cultural Separate Enclave Destroys Pharaoh

412650 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to TheHandbag, #1292 of 2096 🔗

Some good ides, Handbag.

Not sure why you need to shout at us more mature folk though – we ain’t all deaf, young’un !

412916 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to TheHandbag, #1293 of 2096 🔗

Why do we have to stand 2m away from everyone else? Fuck that. I’m not assaulting anyone. Don’t like it then stay at home.

412148 nottingham69, replying to nottingham69, 10, #1294 of 2096 🔗

Those who make a personal choice not to be vaccinated should also sign a form waiving their rights to hospital treatment for the next twelve months. Letting them loose in society is like opening the door to a guy with a machine gun. They are both potential murderers and should be treated just the same.

This is taken of the localrag Mirror site and they are happy to let such vitriol stay up. It is a one way propaganda campaign.

What I don’t understand is why the Mirror and Labour in general back Bunter and give themselves the smallest of potential political capital gains, saying he dithers etc. Tactics I don’t get, they won’t benefit when the economics bite.

412154 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to nottingham69, 5, #1295 of 2096 🔗

Well seeing as NHS waiting lists have multipled for a number of treatments by a factor of 200x; I’d say the odds of being treated for a lot of things in the next 12 months are somewhat variable anyway…!

412163 ▶▶ PWL, replying to nottingham69, 5, #1296 of 2096 🔗

Not having any contact with the murderous NHS, not a problem for anyone not already on the death pathway.

As for treating vaccine refuseniks as murderers – that would mean innocence until proven guilty, as usual, and good luck with that. On the other hand, plenty of evidence that the NHS kills.

Is “Covid-19” An NHS Prescribed Drug-Induced Pneumonia (Amongst Other Things)?

The Beneficent NHS, Where Corporate-Government Makes A Buck From Population Control

412168 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to nottingham69, 3, #1297 of 2096 🔗


Reach PLC owns the Mirror, and 70 plus other news outlets.

412170 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to nottingham69, 4, #1298 of 2096 🔗

So, do these people agree when they are denied treatment after they fell over drunk or their liver gave up?

413178 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Silke David, #1299 of 2096 🔗

most illnesses/accidents can be traced back to some extent to the sufferer’s own acts. it is a road that a socialistic health care system inevitably leads to, and another reason why such systems should never be allowed

412213 ▶▶ Apache, replying to nottingham69, 10, #1300 of 2096 🔗

More than happy never to use any NHS services ever again. Can I have a rebate please.

412230 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Apache, 2, #1301 of 2096 🔗

Exactly that.

412222 ▶▶ fiery, replying to nottingham69, 4, #1302 of 2096 🔗

At my age I’m probably mostly at risk of cancer, a heart attack or stroke all of which if treated might extend my life but seriously compromise any quality. I’d be more than happy to refuse treatment for any kind of life changing condition.

412286 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to fiery, 8, #1303 of 2096 🔗

Get some Chateau Lafitte Rothschild and Nembutal in.

Who would want to spend the rest of their days in a fucking death camp stewing in some disgusting mask while waiting to be told they can’t see their family or even leave because of some CUNTY ‘strain’ dreamed up by some CUNT and then being put down as a statistic to justify the ruining of their grandchildren’s futures?

412245 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to nottingham69, 2, #1304 of 2096 🔗

They think the tory government will fall, this is all about getting into power for the labour party. Support the government to ensure lockdowns piss the country off (eventually) hope tories lose the next election, secondly if the country continue to say we should have locked down sooner, they will campaign on that. Finally if the country and MSM turns saying what we on LS think, Labour will support that position saying if elected they will never lockdown the country.

412280 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Cumbriacracked, 5, #1305 of 2096 🔗


Starmer is on the Trilateral Commission.

This goes far beyond your parochial observation.

UNTIL people WAKE UP to the power of BIG PHARMA and the Going Direct Reset / Great Reset and Agenda 21/30 ( see interview on Planet Lockdown website with Catherine Austin Fitts: Catherine Austin Fitts – Planet Lockdown – Full Interview (bitchute.com) ) then they are going to be twisting in the wind for the rest of their miserable lives.

This is globalism.

412315 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #1306 of 2096 🔗

I still maintain Labour will want to be in power irrespective of any other motive.

412574 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Cumbriacracked, #1307 of 2096 🔗

I suppose, given how pathetic ‘Jezza’ has behaved in the wilderness with fuck-all to lose, it is obvious how pathetic he would have been as leader.

412247 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to nottingham69, 2, #1308 of 2096 🔗

They reckoned it worked for Biden so they think they can ride the same wave in 2024.

412270 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to nottingham69, 2, #1309 of 2096 🔗

“… waiving their rights to hospital treatment” — for me, fucking gladly. I have never had to visit a death camp willingly.

412290 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to nottingham69, 6, #1310 of 2096 🔗

Should those who go to be vaccinated have to waive any treatment required following any vaccination injury?

After all, it is a free decision.

412379 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to rockoman, 1, #1311 of 2096 🔗

You nailed it. Anaphylactic reaction from the “vaccine?” Too bad, no treatment for you. There’s no question that some percentage of people will end up with lifetime autoimmune issues. No treatment for them. These sheeple will cost the rest of us a ton of money as the medium- to long-term effects of this experimental gene therapy manifest.

412311 ▶▶ ituex, replying to nottingham69, 1, #1312 of 2096 🔗

Thank God! I started reading this and thought it was your actual view!!

412787 ▶▶▶ Portnadler, replying to ituex, #1313 of 2096 🔗

Getting familiar with the quote button helps!

412149 PWL, replying to PWL, 3, #1314 of 2096 🔗

Of course vaccine passports are on the way. Dangling foreign holidays and entry to football matches was the only way UK Government was going to get a lot of cattle to get over its vaccine hesitancy.
“Covid-19 Vaccine” Adverse Reactions; Part One: Dropping Dead?

412332 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to PWL, 1, #1315 of 2096 🔗

It’ll take more than that for me to get involved in their dystopia

412153 bebophaircut, 1, #1316 of 2096 🔗

Cancel Culture appeals primarily to poorly educated, grammatically challenged (i.e. illiterate) persons.

412157 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 2, #1317 of 2096 🔗

R number is down: Of course it Bleedin is; Its called HERD IMMUNITY!!!

412189 ▶▶ Mayo, replying to Fingerache Philip, #1318 of 2096 🔗

We hope . I’m not yet convinced.

412243 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #1319 of 2096 🔗

It’s also called the end of Winter.

412493 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, #1320 of 2096 🔗


412633 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, #1321 of 2096 🔗

🙂 Just need Aslan to turn up now …

412160 l835, replying to l835, 10, #1322 of 2096 🔗

Rhetorical question. Should I get one of those natty sunflower lanyards? Having been completely embarrassed trying to gain entry to M&S due to the following pantomime

“Have you got a mask?”
I’m exempt thank you
“Could you pop one on?”
“Are you sure?”
“I’ll just let my colleagues know your coming”

I went to Tesco instead, and emailed M&S customer service.

412240 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to l835, 4, #1323 of 2096 🔗

Only been to M&S a couple of times in the last year, but found them probably the worst place I’ve seen for mask compliance. Staff to be fair were very good in my experience, but a couple of death stares from folks, literally in one case masked 3/4 of the face, gesticulating wildly at me, ‘hey you haven’t got a mask!’ to which I just smiled and said exempt… paused for a few seconds and said, ‘exempt from bacterial pneumonia’. (technically true, I knew someone who contracted this a few years back, believed to be due to a temp covering they had in place for a short period. Extremely nasty for a while but thankfully made a full recovery) anyway I saw the woman’s eyes bulge as I said it, so maybe gave her food for thought. for a second anyway!

Re: the lanyard, I have one. it’s a personal choice, use it sometimes but not always, & just occasionally feel a bit more comfortable with it. For me I got one from etsy I think it was, and it was worth a couple of quid.

412338 ▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to l835, #1324 of 2096 🔗

i have 2 old v festival lanyards, one is yellow so im going to wear it next time i venture to the supermarket. wonder if they will spot the difference?

412628 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to l835, #1325 of 2096 🔗

Which M&S, l835 ? The ‘Could you pop one on ?’ is out of order.

412688 ▶▶▶ l835, replying to JohnB, #1326 of 2096 🔗

The big one at Cheshire Oaks.

412733 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to l835, #1327 of 2096 🔗

Ta. Did you hear back from Customer Service ?

412781 ▶▶▶▶▶ l835, replying to JohnB, #1328 of 2096 🔗

Not yet, expecting the usual reply…

412162 Ovis, replying to Ovis, 18, #1329 of 2096 🔗

I can see only one way for this to end: massive civil disobedience in the Spring.

In the end, it comes down to the use of force, and at this stage the police and army are not quite prepped for gunning down unarmed protesters or people behaving in an old-normal way. It is also not quite clear who in the regime would be willing to sign off on that kind of use of force, given the difficulty of escaping some level of personal responsibility. Massive defiance in the Spring probably overwhelms the regime.

In the aftermath, the main political parties, Parliament itself, and most British institutions are humiliated busted husks, held in deep contempt by the British people. But that’s tomorrow’s problem.

If the regime can keep up the kicks and kindness abuse routine through the Spring without serious opposition, then I think basically we are fucked all the way to Hell. There will be no escape, and no end.

412173 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Ovis, 8, #1330 of 2096 🔗

I agree as far as overthrowing the lockdown regime is concerned, though mass civil disobedience doesn’t have to mean riots. It can be dispersed and passive.

Our wider problems won’t be overturned in a few months, regardless.

412187 ▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Mark, 3, #1331 of 2096 🔗

True, the only way to clean up the mess if we ever get out if this would be if every single parliamentarian, civil servant and high ranking police officer resigned and was replaced by someone who was not complicit in such as abuse of the British people.

412252 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to smithey, 3, #1332 of 2096 🔗


They need to be PROSECUTED.

PUT in jail for a LONG TIME!

412287 ▶▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #1333 of 2096 🔗

True, we need to ensure that there is a deterrent to put people off abusing public office again. Sadly if there ever is an enquiry it will be a whitewash and those responsible will not be brought to justice.

412595 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to smithey, #1334 of 2096 🔗

According to the series The Crown, it would take 10,000 totally dedicated and loyal troops to carry out a successful coup in the modern UK.

412190 ▶▶▶ PWL, replying to Mark, 2, #1335 of 2096 🔗

The economic blockade is just another in a long line of abuses. The Crown, all its secret handshake merchants, all its means to authority, has to go, and real republican government installed – and that’ll be a long job.

Action To End The Interminable Unlawful Lockdown

412259 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to PWL, 5, #1336 of 2096 🔗

Yes, the Queen is a traitor and the future King a traitor to their subjects. And to think, minus the climatology garbage, I used to think Prince Charles had decent views.

412378 ▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #1337 of 2096 🔗

Me too. I believe he was a good, well-meaning soul. Then I listened the treacherous garbage he spouted for the WEF.

I still think they chose him as a useful idiot, to give some kind of respectability to their ”cause” (and he, not being the brightest, fell for it) – rather in the way his brother was chosen to give respectability to a different nefarious bunch.

412251 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Mark, 9, #1338 of 2096 🔗

Our CENTRAL problem is the EXPERIMENTAL GENE THERAPY on CHILDREN that is coming down the line.

THAT is our central concern.

The rest can be sorted out.

These people need a NUREMBERG.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is not serious.

412260 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to FedupofLies, 7, #1339 of 2096 🔗

I agree about the children but it is not just on children, adults who do not wish to take the vaccine for whatever reason need to be protected by Nuremburg too.

412186 ▶▶ EssieSW, replying to Ovis, 5, #1340 of 2096 🔗

I am interested to see what will happen at the one year mark. Could that be a turning point for some people when they actually realise how long they have been putting up with this? And that there is no end in site as the goal posts are being continually moved?

Not that I will hold my breath.

412263 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to EssieSW, 7, #1341 of 2096 🔗

We need to STOP THE VACCINATION OF CHILDREN with experimental gene therapy.

Who gives a flying FUCK about anything else right now?

412382 ▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #1342 of 2096 🔗

It is up to the parents to say NO. Unfortunately, many of them are narrow-minded and dimwitted enough to believe the narrative. How do you stop children being abused in this way if the parents are ready to give their consent?

412598 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Banjones, -1, #1343 of 2096 🔗

I think it is more than that: I think it is sadism.

A lot of women have abortions. I know sometimes it is reasonable, but they have them all the time. They HATE their children.

There is a female doctor doing the rounds on social media among sceptics. She was virtue signalling about taking the vaccine to protect her patients and her unborn child. Soon after she had a miscarriage and said how she felt the need to be honest with her followers.

Not for a SECOND did she question taking the vaccine, despite the evidence and the recommendation of WHO etc that pregnant women forego.

She could WARN other expectant mothers but she doesn’t. It was ALL about virtue signalling on stupid and overrated social media.

I honestly think a lot of women are evil. Possessive over their children, yes, but incapable of loving them.

412265 ▶▶ Teddy Edward, replying to Ovis, 3, #1344 of 2096 🔗

See you at the barricades.My piss is boiling fuck democracy let’s try Chaos and Anarchy.Time for the filth to retreat to their barracks.

412279 ▶▶ Markus Skepticus, replying to Ovis, 1, #1345 of 2096 🔗

Come on now, people have been saying it’ll end due to mass civil disobedience for almost a year. No such instance of civil disobedience has occurred nor will it occur.

412367 ▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Markus Skepticus, #1346 of 2096 🔗

I don’t say it will happen. I say it’s our only hope of getting to an end point. To be honest, I don’t even give it even odds of happening. I just think there is still a chance, and it is worth pointing that out.

413176 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Ovis, #1347 of 2096 🔗

sorry to be a pessimist, but my money’s on the regime. there will be no uprising. they will release the pressure valve just enough before tightening up again come the autumn.

412172 Edward, replying to Edward, 11, #1348 of 2096 🔗

Half past two and over 1000 comments, so I don’t have time to read them all. Apologies if I’m repeating what others have said.

Questions for the general public:
If the vaccines work, why can’t restrictions be eased as soon as most of the vulnerable people have been vaccinated?
If the vaccines don’t work, what is the point of them?

Of course the binary assumption of “working/not working” is a bit simplistic, but it’s a starting point for more detailed arguments.

Mixed messages on the front pages of the tabloids today. The Sun says vaccination is going according to plan. The Mail quotes a Bank of England bigwig saying that the economy is like a coiled spring which will leap into action when released. But the Metro leads with some SAGE bastard basically saying lockdowns for ever (also inside the Mail according to the above-the-line stuff here). Classic good cop, bad cop routine.

412188 ▶▶ Luckyharry69, replying to Edward, 2, #1349 of 2096 🔗

There has to be a SECOND vaccine first?…and then the other 50 million or so have to have to have TWO jabs as well to get your ‘passport’?….so I reckon that’s a couple more YEARS at least of dragging this on?

and we will have another lockdown in the autumn….guaranteed

412205 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Luckyharry69, 2, #1350 of 2096 🔗

I reckon that’s a couple more YEARS at least of dragging this on?” I doubt it – once the reliance on the vaccine as a way out of this was established, it was always going to go on forever because of mutations

412209 ▶▶▶▶ Luckyharry69, replying to Julian, 2, #1351 of 2096 🔗

apologies…yes…forever…I was trying to cheer myself up…….

412198 ▶▶ Polonium1806, replying to Edward, 3, #1352 of 2096 🔗

How can someone believe that after a year or lot longer actually, everything will just spring back to normal like nothing happened is beyond me. Or do this detached eggheads think of the plebs as a mindless mass, obsessed with consuming? And what about all the sectors of the economy that will not be even close to normal, like everything travel related? Lies, lies, lies

412224 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Polonium1806, 4, #1353 of 2096 🔗

It’s often said that confidence is the key to an economic upturn. I can’t see any grounds for confidence in the current situation. The precedent has been established that lockdown and other restrictions can be switched on instantly at any time.

412585 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Edward, #1354 of 2096 🔗

Exactly, who on earth would start a business now (other than some ultra-light home business) knowing that at any time, it could be shut down by government decree?

412212 ▶▶ Edward, replying to Edward, 3, #1355 of 2096 🔗

Off on a tangent here: I listen to a lot of classical music, but I’ve never been keen on opera (Mozart and Rossini aren’t too bad). In one of the Sunday papers there used to be a feature called something like “My Week” in which some posho or bigwig would give a diary-style account of his or her week. There was usually a line “To the opera, with friends”. I was always a bit suspicious of people who claim to like opera but don’t seem to have a broader interest in music – is it just the spectacle they like? Or is it just a fashionable place to hobnob and network with others of their type? If they really do like opera for its own sake, aren’t they missing it desperately and what do they think of the notion that large-scale events seem to be banned for the foreseeable future?

412592 ▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Edward, #1356 of 2096 🔗

I’ve been saying for a while that this may be where the permanent-lockdown advocates get it wrong. The boffins whose only friends reside in petri dishes don’t care about permanent lockdowns, but the MPs and influential people who participate in the Season – Ascot, Henley, Wimbledon, hunt balls, Cav-Mem parade, Trooping the Colour, plus all the society weddings, baptisms, passing out parades &c might just start to tire rather of it all quite soon.

412601 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Edward, #1357 of 2096 🔗

Last time I looked, you could get most operas on gramophone records. 🙂

412233 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to Edward, 6, #1358 of 2096 🔗

I now believe there is more to it than a virus (yes I am late to the party I know), this is a minor illness for most of the population, if the vulnerable have been vaccinated, then there is no reason to not get back to normal, relatives in their 60s have now had their first vaccine dose, I can imagine people in their 50s being done next month at this rate.

The government have paid a lot off the population, who will sit compliant as long as they are financially whole. They have brainwashed people into thinking this is a deadly virus like Ebola, I know people who are not in any risk groups who are terrified of leaving their homes and are borderline agoraphobic.

If we have lockdowns forever, people like me in close contact jobs that will close in a lockdown will have to either close permanently, or up our rates to allow for 3-4 months off a year, this is not going to be viable, no pubs/restaurants/tattooists/hairdressers could operate under this. So much for the economy being like a coiled spring, the country is in massive debt, lots of people like me excluded from all help, there will be a massive financial reckoning for this.

412283 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to liztr835, 3, #1359 of 2096 🔗

You are right. Economists have their uses, but when they’re wrong they can be seriously wrong. Before the 2008 crash, there would be occasional letters in newspapers from ordinary punters saying that “you can’t build prosperity on a mountain of debt”. The “experts” would respond, “these simple plebs don’t understand sophisticated modern economic theory”. But then in 2008 the sub-prime mortgage debt which had been sliced and diced into “collateralised debt obligations” (if I remember the jargon correctly) became worthless and the resulting collapse spread to the rest of the system.

412176 Tim Paton, replying to Tim Paton, 16, #1360 of 2096 🔗

When ever I see a news piece about how traumatised NHS staff are I always wonder what our young men and women who served in Afganistan are thinking. They were never given the same amount of airtime and they have seen I imagine alot worse.

412193 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Tim Paton, 5, #1361 of 2096 🔗

I remember very well how soldiers were disliked after Iraq, the management even advised soldiers to go in civvies when they did their shopping as they sometimes got abuse.
That changed after “help for heroes”.

412217 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Silke David, 6, #1362 of 2096 🔗

For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ” Tommy, wait outside “;
But it’s ” Special train for Atkins ” when the trooper’s on the tide
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s ” Special train for Atkins ” when the trooper’s on the tide. 

412237 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Nigel Sherratt, #1363 of 2096 🔗

Well, where the FUCK are they now?

412236 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Silke David, 1, #1364 of 2096 🔗

Bullshit! Nobody hated soldiers after Iraq. This is like the myth of Vietnam vets being spat on.

412241 ▶▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to FedupofLies, 3, #1365 of 2096 🔗

Only the more extreme followers of a certain religion.

412602 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to redbirdpete, #1366 of 2096 🔗

Oh, just a bunch of worthless types bussed in from some dump in Bradford.

IF we get through this, it is time to just simply END all this Identity Politics.

412303 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Silke David, 2, #1367 of 2096 🔗

I’m sorry, you are wrong. Soldiers and cadets were advised not to go out in their uniforms because of the threat of Islamic terrorism after Lee Rigby was murdered on his way back to barracks. Help for Heroes predates that.

412596 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to ituex, #1368 of 2096 🔗

‘Lee Rigby’ ?!? I detect an msm narrative here …

412232 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Tim Paton, 5, #1369 of 2096 🔗


412447 ▶▶ richardw53, replying to Tim Paton, 1, #1370 of 2096 🔗

I recall the army officer responsible for assembling the ExCel Nightingale comparing it to fighting on the Somme. God help us if ever we have to fight a real war.

412604 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to richardw53, #1371 of 2096 🔗

The Officer class is all compromised with Identity Politics.

412185 Mayo, replying to Mayo, 2, #1373 of 2096 🔗

This guy reports on Israeli data. He is not an anti-vaxxer – far from it.


Third update of my estimations of vaccination effectiveness. Not as optimistic as my previous posts. Data is based on cases of vaccinated individuals up to February 9th. Findings: 1. No protection up to day 21. We only see protection from day 0 of the 2nd dose. = 

412322 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Mayo, 1, #1374 of 2096 🔗

What do you make of that? Well down on the 95% claims and certainly nothing tangible after the first dose, again undermining the UK approach.

The government us acting as if it’s not a trial at the moment, assuming the vaccines allow for travel to return and vaccine passports etc. The big assumption in many models is that the marketing claims of the vaccines stand up.

Another shambles in the making. Even their most nightmarish policies seem doomed to fail.

Of course that’ll just mean restrictions stay. Eventually the Great Barrington Declaration will be shown to have been well ahead of the curve on many issues. Before then we may have to see the rise and disastrous fall of zero Covid for which the entire country will pay.

412195 merlin, replying to merlin, 9, #1375 of 2096 🔗

If I were the chief cunt on SAGE running the psyop, now would be the time to unwind the lockdown. I would say that vaccines and lockdown saved the day , knowing that I could pull a similar stunt later on in the year. If I keep pressing lockdowns then the chance of major ‘short squeeze’ is increasing by the day as even the most docile sheep are getting twitchy.

412201 ▶▶ Mike, replying to merlin, 5, #1376 of 2096 🔗

I really not sure about the sheep getting twitchy…I’m literally on a team call at this moment in time and the numpties I work with are discussing their joy at the vaccine being rolled out and how good it is that their parents have now had the jab…sheep.

412207 ▶▶▶ Luckyharry69, replying to Mike, 2, #1377 of 2096 🔗

all my family are the same…you have my sympathies…

412219 ▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Luckyharry69, 8, #1378 of 2096 🔗

As are mine. My parents are intelligent and normally very sensible rational people yet right now my Mother thinks certain death awaits if she dares step out of the front door or has any visitors in the house. It is easier to get my Father to see the lunacy of the situation but he still believes the whole thing is a government overreaction rather than something more sinister. Both can’t wait to have their jabs and think once they have had them they will get their lives back. Don’t know why I shared this with you all…….

412246 ▶▶▶▶▶ landt2020, replying to smithey, 5, #1379 of 2096 🔗

For what it’s worth, mine are the same. I’m taking my mum on an outing tomorrow. We will “happen to meet” at the entrance to the gardens we’re visiting, and then take our “daily exercise with one adult from another household” in the same vicinity… I think it’s the first time she’s been out for a month, she’s even getting the shopping delivered these days. She believed that everything outside was closed; just tumbleweed and virus rolling down the high street. I blame fucking Facebook and those poisonous local FB groups full of curtain-twitching Karens. Dad’s still working, it gets him out of the house and he can see the normality of the world outside but mum’s shut herself off mentally as well as physically. I’m really worried about her.

412524 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to landt2020, #1380 of 2096 🔗

I read an interview with Michael Palin in Radio Times and he was apparently genuinely surprised when the interviewer told him the trains were still running.

412756 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Cranmer, #1381 of 2096 🔗


people should have NEVER given so much credence to these goddamn entertainers

fucking sick society . ACTORS! THEY ARE FUCKING ACTORS.

413169 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to landt2020, #1382 of 2096 🔗

I am not remotely afraid of ‘the virus’, which I don’t even believe exists, but the last time I left the house was October. the result of living in a village without a car.

412511 ▶▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Mike, 1, #1383 of 2096 🔗

Condolences. I know plenty people like that. Colleague even volunteering in vaccination center recruiting volunteers… Usually I try to say sth but I decided to let it be. May ADE fate decide… the awakening will be painful when the realization sets in people are getting ill – possibly fatally – with vaccine.

412758 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Pebbles, #1384 of 2096 🔗

Mental health problems and god knows what. an entire generation of children to be experimented on. SICK!

412204 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to merlin, 5, #1385 of 2096 🔗

Communist party clinical psychologist Susan Michie, who is on various committee advising the government, is warning that vaccinating the entire adult population still won’t be enough.

412474 ▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to LMS2, 2, #1386 of 2096 🔗

She needs Offing !!

412220 ▶▶ Achilles, replying to merlin, 3, #1387 of 2096 🔗

You’re forgetting who funds some of the key players in SAGE.

412225 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to merlin, 7, #1388 of 2096 🔗

They are planning to destroy the economy – it never was about a virus. They are going to do it sector by sector – hospitality and tourism are not needed in the new UN Agenda21 smart city world they want to create. They have to destroy to get you to comply – if you have a job/income/security you could resist them.

That’s why they are unlikely to phase out lockdown, because if they do, these businesses might not fail as they want them to.

412253 ▶▶▶ merlin, replying to this is my username, 4, #1389 of 2096 🔗

I do not dispute your description of their objectives. However there is no guarantee that they succeed and even if they can pull it off it will take many years.
I reckon a tactical retreat makes sense else they run the risk of blowing up their plan.

412196 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 19, #1390 of 2096 🔗

Mrs. F P went to pay for petrol at our local Sainsburys this morning and genuinely forgot her face nappy; “Haven’t you got a mask?” was the friendly greeting.
“No I’ve mislaid it” was my wife’s reply, “Well you will have to go outside and pay at the “leper’s” window, then” was the reply, “Well, I’m facing you at the cash desk right now” my wife retorted.
A “face off “then ensued for a few seconds before common sense won out and sanity returned.
Good start to the day!!

412221 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #1391 of 2096 🔗

Ha ha nearly got your fuel for free

412197 LMS2, replying to LMS2, 2, #1392 of 2096 🔗



V-Health Passport “The People’s passport”

[Notice how they call something “the people’s….” when it’s being imposed on the people, whether they want it or not, and pretend it’s a good thing.]

“Introducing the V-Health Passport™
The ‘digital health passport’ & ‘contact tracing’ platform created using VST Enterprises revolutionary patented VCode® and VPlatform™ technology.

The V-Health Passport™ is a simple to use I.D system that can display various health status’ about the passport holder in the most secure way.

VHealth Scan permissions also allow other items to be viewed from the issued Passport such as travel and event tickets.

Once the public user has registered their details via the V-Health Passport™ portal or mobile phone application (available on both Android and iOS), they can request an appointment with their nearest test centre (over 250 to choose from) via the V-Health Platform™.”

Coronavirus digital health passport to be supplied to 15 countries
Ellen Daniel
11th May 2020 (Last Updated June 12th, 2020 14:23)

“Manchester-based cybersecurity firm VST Enterprises has signed a deal with digital health company Circle Pass Enterprises (CPE) to create a digital health passport designed to “manage a safe return to work, life, and safe travel” after the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic.

The two companies have partnered to create “the world’s most secure digital health passport”, known as Covi-pass, and according to VST Enterprises, are committed to working with governments and “major stakeholders” to deploy the technology.

CPE will ship the digital health passports to 15 countries around the world, including Italy, Portugal, France, Panama, India, the US, Canada, Sweden, Spain, South Africa, Mexico, United Arab Emirates and The Netherlands, with the goal of supplying 50 million digital health passports. The first passports will begin shipping from next week.

VST Enterprises’s VCode and VPlatform technologies will be integrated into the Covi-pass to ensure it is secure.”

412750 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to LMS2, #1393 of 2096 🔗

It’s ALL about the MONEY.

Population Management is MONEY and a private prison system at the centre of it.


Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

412199 Freddy Freethinker, 2, #1394 of 2096 🔗

This chap should be the new covid-19 official spokesman:


412215 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 5, #1395 of 2096 🔗

This is just the start – the impact of the economic destruction is going to be massive…..

Outrage as hundreds of desperate homeless people are forced to queue in the snow for hot food in Glasgow as temperatures plunged to -14C

However, charities are warning things will get even worse for those struggling to make ends meet when lockdown ends, with soup kitchens now facing unprecedented demand for handouts.

The number of people regularly using the service has almost doubled since the start of the pandemic – with Covid forcing families who had stable homes and businesses into poverty.


412261 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Victoria, 3, #1396 of 2096 🔗

So in the spring all the homeless were put into hotels as one was afraid they would all catch covid sleeping in tents and door ways.
Now we let them freeze to death.
In Hamburg, Germany, 13 died so far this winter. ok, some do not want to be housed.

412267 ▶▶ EssieSW, replying to Victoria, 6, #1397 of 2096 🔗

It is the language the media use that keeps sheeple fearing ‘the virus’.

The pandemic and covid have not forced families into poverty – lockdown restrictions and businesses not being allowed to operate have.

412216 The Filthy Engineer, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 6, #1398 of 2096 🔗

This is what you can expect the “vaccination passport” to be integrated into if you are concerned about mission creep


412223 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 9, #1399 of 2096 🔗

The plan all along has been for full biometric and health IDs with social credit scoring, and all of the ‘parliamentary debates’ along the way are a pretty unconvincing attempt to make us believe that this was not all planned ahead of time.

412228 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to GrannySlayer, 9, #1400 of 2096 🔗

It’s all a shakedown racket by Big Pharma while they also experiment technologies on CHILDREN for a not very dangerous virus .


This is the GREATEST CRIME in the history of the world.

And our current monarch is a TRAITOR to the British people and our future King is a TRAITOR to the British people.


412344 ▶▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #1401 of 2096 🔗

Off with their miserable heads

412227 ▶▶ Dame Lynet, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 4, #1402 of 2096 🔗

Oh dear, not at all sinister.

Yet another creepy-looking Matt, with the potential to be as punchable as the one we have come to know and loathe.

412264 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to The Filthy Engineer, #1403 of 2096 🔗

So loss of physical documents can lead to identity fraud, – well what do they suppose happened when Israel’s biometric database was hacked (7 million records)? or India’s massive data breach encompassing most of the country & IDs were traded on WhatsApp for a couple of £? (over 1 billion records)? good grief.

Still at least there appears to be a survey so you can give your thoughts (a few minutes of your life you probably won’t get back!)

412275 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 1, #1404 of 2096 🔗

Bliar’s plans all coming true, he wanted this many years ago, who would have thought it may come to fruition with a tory government.

412285 ▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Cumbriacracked, 4, #1405 of 2096 🔗

Tory in name only. I see nothing more than a lighter shade of red.

412321 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to The Filthy Engineer, #1406 of 2096 🔗

I agree, although I actually think quite a dark shade of red!

412342 ▶▶▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Cumbriacracked, #1407 of 2096 🔗

A shitty brown colour.

412353 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Edward, #1408 of 2096 🔗

Definitely looks Brown on a shirt ! Oh hang on that’s been done !

412310 ▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 3, #1409 of 2096 🔗

As ever, they give utterly disingenuous examples to make it appear so beneficial.

Still, with the economy going down faster than a whore’s drawers they won’t be able to pay the software development costs.

412356 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to The Filthy Engineer, #1410 of 2096 🔗

And this is how freedom dies! Welcome to Prison Earth!

412226 mhcp, replying to mhcp, 19, #1411 of 2096 🔗

Remember how the impact statement on the SIs said “no impact assessment has been made”

Whitty and Vallance: “No impact or cost benefit analysis has been done”

Well dickheads the economy just phoned – you fucked it completely.

Worst drop in 300 years!

Gordon Brown couldn’t even pull off that scale of catastrophe. Not even Normal Lamont with Black Friday.

And as has been pointed out elsewhere, they are counting PPE contracts, adverts and testing as GDP. As if this is lifting the economy.

Frederic Bastiat had it perfectly: you cannot build an economy based on destruction.

412235 ▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to mhcp, 8, #1412 of 2096 🔗

And as has been pointed out elsewhere, they are counting PPE contracts, adverts and testing as GDP. As if this is lifting the economy.”

This is nothing more than a self-licking lollipop.

412238 ▶▶ smithey, replying to mhcp, 7, #1413 of 2096 🔗

I could have told them last March that lockdown would fook the economy and I failed my economics A level!

412250 ▶▶▶ Luckyharry69, replying to smithey, 2, #1414 of 2096 🔗

I saw this coming 20 years ago and I have no economics knowledge at all……..

412242 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to mhcp, 7, #1415 of 2096 🔗

What happened 300 years ago? That other great exercise in mass hysteria and fraud The South Sea Bubble

412256 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Cecil B, 10, #1416 of 2096 🔗

spot on. its a regular occurrence. humans go mad. tulipmania, WW1, coronapanic, medieval dancing plagues

412300 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Cecil B, 4, #1417 of 2096 🔗

Isaac Newton allegedly said that he could “calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people.” Yet he was caught out too.

412266 ▶▶ katz, replying to mhcp, 1, #1418 of 2096 🔗

They don’t care though

412614 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to mhcp, 1, #1419 of 2096 🔗

Minus 10%GDP with plus 20% gov. debt/GDP equals minus 30%GDP.
The replacement of productive tourism with useless testing forms a part of that within.
And as the government sector shrank zero, it means that the private sector shrank 20% incl. the gov.debt increase financed subsidies, and 60% without them.
That’s the real cost of lockdown, and the real size and distribution of the damage and the dimension of the task to rebuild.

412234 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 4, #1420 of 2096 🔗

Northumbria Police admit that they are cowards


412249 ▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Cecil B, 13, #1421 of 2096 🔗

Covid regulations allow police to issue fines for organised gatherings but the rules do not apply for crowds consisting of individual households.

Cleveland Police Insp Tony Cross said: “It’s taking up a lot of resources.”

“You can see we’re outnumbered,” he added.

Ha, ha, ha, ha!! Priceless stuff. It only takes one snowball of dissent and it will lead to an unstoppable avalanche of rebellion.

412258 ▶▶▶ landt2020, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 4, #1422 of 2096 🔗

Police do have powers to disperse crowds and fine or arrest those refusing to leave, but only if they have a justifiable reason such as disorder or crime.

Very interesting that the covid regulations are not deemed a justifiable reason!

412262 ▶▶▶ katz, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 1, #1423 of 2096 🔗

We all need a good laugh.

412317 ▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 1, #1424 of 2096 🔗

Bad news for the 30 people in my town who gathered on a field near the estate to release balloons. The argument that they just happened to be at the same time at the same place with balloons does not sound convincing.

412254 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Cecil B, 10, #1425 of 2096 🔗

About time the pigs had a wake-up call.

412271 ▶▶▶ katz, replying to GrannySlayer, 14, #1426 of 2096 🔗

I object to them being called pigs. Pigs are intelligent animals with no malice in their characters.

412340 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to katz, 8, #1427 of 2096 🔗

A good point. I shall henceforth only refer to them by their proper name: The Filth.

412376 ▶▶▶▶▶ katz, replying to GrannySlayer, 2, #1428 of 2096 🔗


412935 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to GrannySlayer, #1429 of 2096 🔗

Filth! Haven’t heard that for a few years. I think you might be as old as me.

412305 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to GrannySlayer, 2, #1430 of 2096 🔗

I hope they get more than a wake up call and sometime soon

412276 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Cecil B, 5, #1431 of 2096 🔗

“If they’re not going to engage with us and we can’t explain and reason with them in an amicable manner we’re going to have to start taking names and addresses and issuing fines.”
Well I am not surprised that the police cannot explain the reasoning. People sledging outdoors are unlikely to get close together for long enough for the virus to spread let alone result in the sudden death of granny! It is right they had to back off and let people have some much needed enjoyment even though that is now banned in Britain.

412324 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Cecil B, 3, #1432 of 2096 🔗

At least they’re acknowledging that they’re outnumbered.

412390 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to leggy, #1433 of 2096 🔗

Always worth reinforcing. 🙂

412551 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Cecil B, 1, #1434 of 2096 🔗

So how about one hundred thousand households meeting up in Trafalgar Square, say sometime about ten on Saturday week.

412248 Mark, replying to Mark, 4, #1435 of 2096 🔗

NEW – Instagram to permanently ban users that send “hate speech” in their private Direct Messages, the social media platform announced.

Another burning straw in the wind from the bonfire of our freedoms of opinion and speech stoked by the woke left.

And in practice, of course, here’s the kind of stuff that “hate speech” means:

What REALLY Got Gina Carano Cancelled

412269 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Mark, 20, #1436 of 2096 🔗

“If you go to the southwest desert and catch 100 red fire ants, as well as 100 large black ants, t can catch about 100 red fire ants that live in the southwestern desert and also about 100 of those large black ants, and put them in a jar, at first, nothing will happen.

However, if you violently shake the jar and dump them back on the ground the ants will fight until they eventually kill each other.

The thing is, the red ants think the black ants are the enemy and vice versa when, in reality, the real enemy is the person who shook the jar.

This is exactly what’s happening in society today:

Liberal vs Conservative
Black vs White
Mask vs Anti Mask

The real question we should be asking ourselves is who is shaking the jar and why?”

Gina Carano

412320 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to rockoman, 2, #1437 of 2096 🔗

Ain’t that the truth.

412772 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to rockoman, #1438 of 2096 🔗

Yes, even that kind of relatively harmless hippy nonsense mixed with fantasy about a shadowy “them” deserves not to be censored as supposed “hate speech”.

412377 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Mark, 1, #1439 of 2096 🔗

Had never heard of her previously. But good for her !

412268 Dartford44, replying to Dartford44, 14, #1440 of 2096 🔗

Johnson is a total wanker,we all know that.Never ever a leader,a charlatan.
The war is against sage and all their policies.
The general public have no idea what is coming down the line and I am including my wife.
People have lost their liberties and rights and it is going to get worse.I understznd to some extent the idea of vaccine passports to go abroad, however,we all know they will be used to go to a football match or pub.The World has changed forever.Wwe are now run by Left wing sage who want to control us,as do any socialist party.
We need to demonstrate peacefully.

412278 ▶▶ katz, replying to Dartford44, 15, #1441 of 2096 🔗

We need to stop being afraid of our neighbours and afraid of the gestapo and that includes me. Many of my friends think the same way as us, but are going along with it out of fear of being stigmatised and singled-out in their communities.

412281 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Dartford44, 11, #1442 of 2096 🔗

“.I understznd to some extent the idea of vaccine passports to go abroad,”


The manufacturers themselves say that the ‘vaccines’ neither confer immunity nor stop transmission.

412291 ▶▶▶ Kat, replying to rockoman, 4, #1443 of 2096 🔗

It’s also another way of taxing us and deterring us from going abroad in the first place. Will then morph into a charge on movement of any kind. We will be the equivalent of medieval serfs.

412313 ▶▶▶ Gtec, replying to rockoman, 3, #1444 of 2096 🔗

It’s what you could call a ‘Greta’: a symbolic gesture that achieves nothing, but denies freedom to others.

412325 ▶▶▶ John001, replying to rockoman, 2, #1445 of 2096 🔗

You’d probably be more immune using Fauci’s vitamin D intake (6000 IU a day, or 1.5x what the NHS says is ‘safe’) and no vaccine.

412316 ▶▶ Luckyharry69, replying to Dartford44, 3, #1446 of 2096 🔗

“Johnson is a total wanker”?…..very succinct.I cannot improve on that……..

412370 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Luckyharry69, #1447 of 2096 🔗

Johnson – total wanker !

412273 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 2, #1448 of 2096 🔗

BBC Headline

Covid: Man denies giving woman, 92, fake vaccine

(If you don’t believe me check it out on their ‘news’ website)

Have they finally caught up with the Pig Dictator?

412293 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Cecil B, 3, #1449 of 2096 🔗

He was just doing whatever the person who administered a jab to Brenda and Phil did.

412284 pub with no beer, replying to pub with no beer, 2, #1450 of 2096 🔗

just watched delingpoles’s last podcast with Josh. very good and stay to the end for a brilliant speech by Josh.

412306 ▶▶ leggy, replying to pub with no beer, #1451 of 2096 🔗

Not seen that yet, but a good cameo on Sky News Australia too:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6231120593001 ?

412333 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to pub with no beer, #1452 of 2096 🔗

Dellers is a legend 👍

412292 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #1453 of 2096 🔗

Washington, D.C.: Tear down this wall.

412297 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #1454 of 2096 🔗

Who are the insurrectionists/domestic terrorists in Washington, D.C.?

412295 leggy, 10, #1455 of 2096 🔗

This really was prescient from MUSE wasn’t it:

The paranoia is in bloom, the PR

Transmissions will resume, they’ll try to

Push drugs, keep us all dumb down and hope that

We will never see the truth around, so come on

Another promise, another scene, another

Package not to keep us trapped in greed with all the

Green belts wrapped around our minds and endless

Red tape to keep the truth confined, so come on

They will not force us

And they will stop degrading us

And they will not control us

We will be victorious, so come on

Interchanging mind control, come let the

Revolution take its toll, if you could

Flick a switch and open your third eye, you’d see that

We should never be afraid to die, so come on

Rise up and take the power back, it’s time that

The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that

Their time is coming to an end, we have to

Unify and watch our flag ascend, so come on

412299 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 24, #1456 of 2096 🔗

To describe Bill Gates as a philanthropist is akin to describing Dr Mengele as a Child Protection Officer

412309 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Cecil B, 7, #1457 of 2096 🔗

Even disregarding character, people talk as if he is giving all of his money away: he has increased his wealth during this last year, for goodness sake!

412319 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Cecil B, 7, #1458 of 2096 🔗


He is a ‘philanthropist’ to his own so-called non profit organisations – very tax efficient making tax deductible donations to these non profits, then control them as a normal company to pay people off, buy lots of farming land in the US, setting the pieces in place on how to control the whole world etc

412336 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Cecil B, 1, #1459 of 2096 🔗

Superb analogy 👍

412355 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Cecil B, 1, #1460 of 2096 🔗

Dr John Money as a Paediatrician

412307 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 23, #1461 of 2096 🔗

Just got an answer back from the Government Legal Department about social distancing, guidelines being law and enforceable or not.

They have some very dubious reasoning to justify themselves.

I’m going to send it out to people such as laworfiction and Francis Hoar who will be very interested in what they said.

kh1485 could have fun with it against that BID woman I guess.

Here is a link to the FOI – if you are going to use it on social media or print it up for posting in your business window etc please redact my name and personal E-mail from it is all I ask.


Highlighting mine:

1 – the legislation that states the social distancing is a legal requirement and has the force of law and is not just “guidance”

Their answer:

The term “social distancing” is not used in legislation. However, some restrictions which form part of the concept of social distancing are included in legislation as set out below:

– The prohibition on gatherings of two or more people (unless an exemption applies) and the requirement to have a reasonable excuse to leave the house are set out in The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (All Tiers) (England) Regulations 2020 (SI 1374/2020).

The advice relating to the distance to be maintained from others (which is one aspect of social distancing) is not set out in law and is instead set out in guidance.

So does not really explain all the road and footpath closures, signs blotting the landscape and officials acting like jack-booted Nazis when dealing with businesses and the public about having social distancing signs etc in their premises, making customers wait outside and so on does it?

2 – the legislation that states anything with the words “guidance” or “guidelines” in the title is anything other than advice or a recommendation and has the force of law the allows it to be enforced if not followed.

Their answer:

There is no legislation on the legal status of guidance or guidelines. In some instances social distancing guidance advises and informs on the application of the law. Other elements of guidance are produced to inform the public, business and other organisations how they should operate to minimise the risk and spread of COVID-19. The guidance published by the government relating to the COVID-19 pandemic can be found at: https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus . It is not an offence to not comply with guidance but individuals, businesses and other organisations should act in accordance with the guidance produced. You may find this report by the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments useful in considering the relationship between legislation and guidance.

So they state that it is not an offence to comply with guidance but businesses etc should act in accordance to guidance – contradictory or what?

I’ve browsed through the report they linked to and cannot find anywhere where it states guidance must be followed as it’s law and legally enforceable.

But one interesting is section 3.3:

The Committee asked the Department for Health and Social Care to confirm that the “rules” relating to limited exercise, local travel, social distancing and shopping only for basic necessities amount to non-statutory advice or guidance that is not legally enforceable. In a memorandum published at Appendix 3, the Department confirms that this is the case. The Committee remains concerned that guidance continues to be used in the context of the emergency pandemic response in a way that appears to purport to impose more severe restrictions than are imposed by law. The “new rules” were widely reported before the Regulations were published and have been the focus of public and media attention. The Committee is concerned that many readers will not readily appreciate the distinction in rule of law terms between provisions of regulations and paragraphs in government guidance; and a statement such as “the law will be updated to reflect these new rules” is likely to add to the confusion by suggesting exact correspondence between the “rules” (which are not in fact rules but guidance) and the law. The Committee considered it important to have confirmed on the record that a number of specific provisions of the guidance, despite being described by Ministers as “rules” and using imperative language, are in fact no more than guidance , and accordingly reports the Regulations for requiring elucidation, provided in the Department’s memorandum . (their highlighting)

So even the committee overseeing the legislation says guidance cannot be enforced and ministers should stop trying to say it is law.

Can someone else have a look and let us all know what they think?

Health and Safety Executive were asked the same questions but not answered yet.

412314 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Awkward Git, 4, #1462 of 2096 🔗

Great information thanks

412392 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Awkward Git, 2, #1463 of 2096 🔗

What I think is that their answers are evasive gibberish and that guidance is guidance, not law

412412 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Awkward Git, 1, #1464 of 2096 🔗

It isn’t all good. A law can be scrutinised in court. A guideline can’t.

412435 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Annie, #1465 of 2096 🔗

Reflexive Law. Check it out.

412504 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Awkward Git, #1466 of 2096 🔗

Doesn’t this actually sum it up nicely… it’s not law, it’s guidance, and only maintained because people perceive it as law…? Isn’t that where the hoodwinking is happening?

412312 John001, replying to John001, 7, #1467 of 2096 🔗

Bad news & good.

Unpleasant supermarket incident 3 (1 & 2 were two very minor ones in 2020):

Cashier in Aldi, who turned out to be the manager, asked for a mask and an exemption card before I paid for the goods … I was basically refused service. I correctly said a) I don’t have one b) they’re not required. They also used the ‘private property’ argument … I don’t know if that breaches yet another law.

Mildly positive: the GP has agreed to do a vitamin D blood test in early March. Last year they seemed sceptical that anyone needed more than the NHS ‘micro-intake’ (400 IU a day) and anyway a Mar 2020 test wasn’t possible.

412323 ▶▶ Lili, replying to John001, 1, #1468 of 2096 🔗

How did the Aldi trip conclude then? Don’t leave us hanging!

412335 ▶▶▶ John001, replying to Lili, 7, #1469 of 2096 🔗

I politely walked out and left the goods behind (only £3, as it was a top up shop; I visit Lidl Mondays for that). Being an ‘oldie’ I don’t carry recording equipment. An e-mail will go to the CEO this evening.

412337 ▶▶▶▶ John001, replying to John001, 2, #1470 of 2096 🔗

I mean that I visit Lidl for a normal £25-30 trolley-load of shopping.

412351 ▶▶▶▶ Lili, replying to John001, 1, #1471 of 2096 🔗

I carry the printed out government exemptions list with me. Never had to use it yet.

412358 ▶▶▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Lili, 1, #1472 of 2096 🔗

I wear the blue badge with white text from the government website, and carry a copy of the Law or Fiction guide to mask exemptions, though I’ve never had a need to bring out the latter.

412357 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to John001, 1, #1473 of 2096 🔗

Might be worth borrowing a mobile phone, and pulling it out and switching it on when refused service ?

“I’m recording this for use in court” can work wonders.

(Our local Aldi has been good throughout, except for one bottom-feeder on a checkout, who a quick word with the manager soon sorted out. Whereabouts is yours, John001 ?).

412534 ▶▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to John001, 2, #1474 of 2096 🔗

Go back and fill a trolley next time you need to fill up the freezer.

They can’t put frozen food back in the freezer.

412728 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Richy_m_99, 1, #1475 of 2096 🔗

Good tip !

412799 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to John001, #1476 of 2096 🔗

I had a very similar bad experience in Aldi a week after they hitched their wagons to PHE last month. My letter went to the CEO and got a lengthy reply. Will never darken their doors again. One less leper in there is what they want after all.



412326 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to John001, 12, #1477 of 2096 🔗

They can ban you from a private property if you are out of control or similar but if they refuse to serve you when you are exempt they are discriminating against you – similar too refusing to serve you if you are black.

You absolute must report this to their head office. ALWAYS film these incidents so that you have proof – stay calm and constructive

Imperative to vote with your feet – do not support companies like this.

412384 ▶▶ Annie, replying to John001, 2, #1478 of 2096 🔗

Stick to your guns, John. Aldi bullies need taking down a peg. Or hanging out to dry on one.

412400 ▶▶ katz, replying to John001, 10, #1479 of 2096 🔗

You could make one of these:

412466 ▶▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to katz, 1, #1480 of 2096 🔗

That’s genius.

412411 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to John001, 5, #1481 of 2096 🔗

Next time go in there fill up with a sack load of crap get the muppet to ring it through and then say oh sorry I forgoten my methods of payment you bitch.

413162 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Two-Six, #1482 of 2096 🔗

that’s actually quite a good idea for a sabotage: especially if a whole gang of saboteurs went in at the same time, and especially if they went for the frozen foods – you could wipe out that store’s profits for the day

412327 peter-, replying to peter-, 12, #1483 of 2096 🔗


Nice to see some critique of the SAGE committe finally, only taken 11 months.

As I have always maintained, they are the biggest problem and without them we would never have been locked down and the whole situation would have played out exactly as it has done in Sweden.

One issue with the article is it gives that vile little weasle (apologies to weasles everywhere) John Edmunds a completely free pass. On balance I feel he is the absolute worst of the lot of them on SAGE, which when you factor in the likes of Whitty, Vallance, Van Tam, Michie, Ferguson etc, is quite an achievement. Not one to be proud of but an achivement nonetheless.

I do wonder what will become of these SAGE members when the lies, crimes and human rights abuses of the last year are laid bare and people finally realise what has been done to them.

412341 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to peter-, 6, #1484 of 2096 🔗

Probably not much. Ferguson seems to just keep getting invited back regardless of what he does. I expect one of them, probably Van Tampax or Twitty, will be made a patsy by the government (assuming all this ever ends).

412385 ▶▶▶ peter-, replying to Cranmer, 6, #1485 of 2096 🔗

The Govts, plan to hang people out to dry is so obvious, you wonder how supposedly intelligent men like Van Tam and Whitty can’t see what is going on. Vallance appears to have some brains as he is cashing in pharma shares and will do a Reggie Perrin as soon as he can.

When I said what will become of them my thinking was more how they get on with their lives. Ferguson must know he is going to be in danger every time he walks down the street from now on, will come across the wrong person sooner rather than later.

On this never ending it has been my fear for so long, but I do feel there is light starting to appear. Given we now even have David Blunkett on our side (not that he can see the light…sorry, cheap shot but fun to type) it must be a good sign.

412352 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to peter-, 4, #1486 of 2096 🔗

They’ll all move to ‘useful idiot’ hotels in New Zealand. Where a surprising fate might well await them.

412368 ▶▶ RickH, replying to peter-, 2, #1487 of 2096 🔗

I totally agree with you re. SAGE.

But they would have no purchase without the government, who appoint them and choose to listen to them.

412413 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to peter-, 2, #1488 of 2096 🔗

Funny I was thinking only this morning that Edmunds is perhaps even more vile and despicable than Ferguson, especially at the moment,

And also that they both look like mangy skinny weasels.

412428 ▶▶▶ peter-, replying to A. Contrarian, 2, #1489 of 2096 🔗

It takes a certain “type” to dedicate a career to a lab or mathematical models.

Both 100% virgins as well.

412339 suitejb, replying to suitejb, 10, #1490 of 2096 🔗

Having just declined the offer of a jab without any problem I wondered if it’s possible to find out how many people are refusing to have the vaccine. Anyone know?

412346 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to suitejb, 14, #1491 of 2096 🔗

There is no way on God’s green and grassy that they are making that number available to us plebs.

412386 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to GrannySlayer, 4, #1492 of 2096 🔗

Let’s just say the regime is getting worried. A few days ago, over 70s were told not to wait for a letter, just phone for an appointment. This morning, the DM reported that the regime were going to write to over 65s. Yesterday, our dear leader claimed to be ‘missing’ two million people who need to