2021-02-13

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413130 Rich, replying to Rich, 156, #1 of 1392 🔗

It gives me strength to know that all our striving is not in vain. It may seem that we are inflicted by a random and pitiless fate, but there is value in facing adversity. It is a greater affliction never to have been afflicted.

Stay strong folks, this will not last forever. Mass hysteria will eventually die down, and in the meantime we need to steel ourselves to fight for the world our children and grandchildren will inherit.

“The weak indulge in resolutions, but the strong act.”

413131 ▶▶ Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to Rich, 113, #2 of 1392 🔗

Also, Fuck You Boris

413136 ▶▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 17, #3 of 1392 🔗

Uk Police Catch Saucy Couple Doing A Bit Of Dartmoor Dogging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutekwKhAGU&list=WL&index=31
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It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain
By
Sonia Elijah
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/its-high-time-europes-lockdown-rebellion-spread-to-britain/

413189 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 62, #4 of 1392 🔗

The sex-in-a-car episode from down the road from here. It actually isn’t funny. If two people want to share sex, then how to God have we reached the position whereby the State says it’s not allowed?

413299 ▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to TJN, 31, #5 of 1392 🔗

Very true….I don’t think that would have happened even in communist dictatorships….in many ways we now have less freedom than they did.

413550 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ HelenaHancart, replying to Boris Bullshit, 26, #6 of 1392 🔗

At least in older communist dictatorships they weren’t able track your every movement with your slave slab.

413626 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to HelenaHancart, 20, #7 of 1392 🔗

True – that’s why we strongly recommend not carrying one! Why hand it to them on a plate? MW

413663 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Boris Bullshit, 10, #8 of 1392 🔗

They were not literally muzzled and kept in isolation.

414256 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Boris Bullshit, 3, #9 of 1392 🔗

THOUSANDS Gather In Austria Vienna / Hugo Talks #lockdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ejbzAymtY

413302 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to TJN, 14, #10 of 1392 🔗

1984/Sex crime!

413665 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 10, #11 of 1392 🔗

If you enjoy anything, it’s a crime. Ask Turdgeon. Or Foetida Dick.

413812 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to Annie, 2, #12 of 1392 🔗

Or Judge Death, from 2000AD: ‘The crime is life. The sentence is death.’

413413 ▶▶▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to TJN, 31, #13 of 1392 🔗

Why are the police driving around at that time of night in a field? Are there no proper crimes at that time of night, you know young people getting stabbed? This might be the only way this couple can meet, exactly what covid laws were they breaking? If they are in the middle of a field who are they upsetting. Just more police overreaching. We no longer consent!

413429 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Spikedee1, 6, #14 of 1392 🔗

As I recall, they were parked up in a car – easy prey for a patrol car in the dead of night.

413724 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to TJN, 14, #15 of 1392 🔗

The filth are sad bastards…never again would I help them out in any situation…I am done with them for ever.

413845 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Spikedee1, 4, #16 of 1392 🔗

they were probably up for a bit of dogging themselves and were beaten to it.

413853 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Spikedee1, 15, #17 of 1392 🔗

I don’t care if they are breaking Covid laws. Covid laws are meant to be broken. We should all do it, often.

414399 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Rowan, #18 of 1392 🔗

Agreed

414025 ▶▶▶▶▶ houdini, replying to TJN, 6, #19 of 1392 🔗

i advise the ladies concerned to report the police officers for committing the offence of voyeurism contrary to s57 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (assuming they did not consent to being watched)

414113 ▶▶▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to TJN, 3, #20 of 1392 🔗

As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult whose business is that?

413785 ▶▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 2, #21 of 1392 🔗

Bring it on ! The rebellion not the dogging , hang on though 🤦🏼‍♂️

413927 ▶▶▶▶ albert hall, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 3, #22 of 1392 🔗

And it won’t. Shopkeepers are just as gullible as the rest of the population.

413780 ▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 2, #23 of 1392 🔗

Yes , with bells on !!..

414356 ▶▶▶ Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 2, #24 of 1392 🔗

Record-high number of suicidal children forces San Francisco to sue its own school district to reopen
NEWS
There’s a 66% increase in the number of suicidal children in the emergency room

https://www.theblaze.com/news/suicides-children-san-francisco-schools-reopen?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New-Trending-Story_WEEKEND%202021-02-13&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News

413135 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Rich, 24, #25 of 1392 🔗

Rich – your post put me in mind of the following passage in Albert Camus’ The Plague. NOT to be read literally, the germ in this book is an allegory for the spread of totalitarianism.

“It’s a wearying business being plague-stricken. But it’s still more wearying to refuse to be it” – Tarrou

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/403028-i-know-positively—yes-rieux-i-can-say-i

“What’s natural is the microbe. All the rest- health, integrity, purity if you like – is a product of the human will of vigilance that must never falter”.

413141 ▶▶▶ Rich, replying to Tom Blackburn, 17, #26 of 1392 🔗

Good one Tom – it does take energy, and sometimes we get weary, but we will prevail!!

413174 ▶▶▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Rich, 14, #27 of 1392 🔗

We absolutely will.

413192 ▶▶▶ Still Got It, replying to Tom Blackburn, 3, #28 of 1392 🔗

Haven’t read this so just ordered.

413290 ▶▶▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Still Got It, 14, #29 of 1392 🔗

You won’t regret it 👍🏻
After that I’m recommending The Stranger which covers the arbitrariness of life and it’s silly made-up rules. Also what happens to people who don’t play the game 😳

413324 ▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Tom Blackburn, 2, #30 of 1392 🔗

You won’t regret it 👍🏻

You might 🙂

The Stranger (a.k.a. The Outsider, a.k.a L’Étranger) is magnificent though.

When the moment comes, please do play Killing an Arab by The Cure.

413518 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to AidanR, 1, #31 of 1392 🔗

It’s redemptive 😉

413639 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #32 of 1392 🔗

read that Autumn 2019- it was a small glimpse into the near future

413653 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Tom Blackburn, 4, #33 of 1392 🔗

Also

All I maintain is that on this earth there are pestilences and there are victims and it’s up to us, so far as possible, not to join forces with the pestilences.

413657 ▶▶▶ Binra, replying to Tom Blackburn, 5, #34 of 1392 🔗

The actively protected and funded belief in the pathological virus as a microbe, frames every other thought and reaction, as a mind trap, false flag or psyop.
Virology is a ‘scientific’ mask for demonology.

‘Demons’ are externalised or projected agencies of fear, denial, hate and guilt.
Others are assigned such characteristics as power over life while their operation through us is masked as virtue and necessity.

In the conflict and denial is the attempt to escape blame as the penalty of exposure as a hatefulness of guilt to its penalty of vilification, exclusion and pain of loss. This is the mind of a masking manipulation, of false witness whereby the blame to another and to the world becomes the source of ‘salvation’ to a mind in fear and hiding.

The social contagion of fear is the corruption of truth and trust to codes of distancing and evasion, in ritual forms that mask as joining in virtue, while actually lock-stepping in the evasion of exposure of fear, in mutual allegiance and support to the currencies or narratives that protect the mask, the distance and the belief that this is freedom for a self-alone, within a group or social ‘identity’ or mask.

The mind given to fear is then persistently vigilant against threat to its masking ego, as if to its self. Such a mind is captured or set in its own emotion backed thinking, as if that is alive, rather than a complex of thought and reaction that feeds a reversal of function in which the meanings assigned for the intent of personal control operate as the limiting and conflicting subjection to the experience of subjection to externally active agencies of a life denying malice that is attuned to hidden guilts and fears within.

In this way a psycho-pathy is repackaged to a narrative of pathogen – where the power of generating life, decision and action is assigned to something ‘out there’ hidden and taking shifting forms, such that nothing is really safe, for today’s friend can be revealed as tomorrow’s threat.

That a lockdown of the mind to fear, denial, and masking narrative identity can be normalised, is never natural or true to who and what we are the living of. And so must be at war with our life while running as the claim to add to or protect invested illusions.

When we act from a wishful and thus active ignorance, we seek answer in panacea or magic bullet cures. This hides the underlying conflict in the arena of the chosen solution where it is not addressed but masked, and so the psychic energy of fear, hate and denial is ‘externalised’ to that ‘solution’.

The capacity to choose fear of pain of loss as our ‘creative’ source or Self, is the reversal of the Golden Rule that reflects the Law of Life. It generates a private experience of a Lawless or insane world, for the exploration and experience of love framed in Separation trauma – and made ‘normal’ to the surface of the mind of its expression.

Love is shared lived experience. Not shared repackaged narrative substitution for experience. This is what we have forgotten.

https://willingness-to-listen.blogspot.com/2021/02/virology-and-projections-of-fear.html

413139 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Rich, 8, #35 of 1392 🔗

Thank you, Rich, that’s the right way to start the day!

413166 ▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Rich, 6, #36 of 1392 🔗

Remember 12 angry men.

413276 ▶▶▶ AN other lockdown sceptic, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #37 of 1392 🔗

Very good call. Brilliant film.

413340 ▶▶▶ CGL, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #38 of 1392 🔗

The Hancock’s Half Hour one?

413674 ▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to CGL, 2, #39 of 1392 🔗

I had completely forgotten about the Hancock one.

413854 ▶▶▶▶▶ Woden, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #40 of 1392 🔗

Maybe a remake of’ The Blood Donor’ with Peter Hitchens playing Hancock

413219 ▶▶ MikeMayUK, replying to Rich, 36, #41 of 1392 🔗

I’m too far gone down the road on which I’m all too aware that the people we keep voting into office, particularly those who achieve the highest offices of state are, in the main, remarkably thick and more interested in retaining or gaining sufficient popularity to get themselves re-elected.

None of the Above [X]

413277 ▶▶▶ Ross Hendry, replying to MikeMayUK, 11, #42 of 1392 🔗

Politics has always been showbusiness for ugly people. Forget principles and ideals, politicians are simply treading the boards in the fervent hope we don’t see through them and throw them out at the next GE.

413866 ▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Ross Hendry, 21, #43 of 1392 🔗

Politics has always been showbusiness for ugly people
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413306 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to MikeMayUK, 16, #44 of 1392 🔗

Not necessarily thick or stupid, and I’m sure there are plenty who are, but overly selfish and ambitious. It’s not about what they can do for their country, but what the country can do for them.

413346 ▶▶▶▶ CGL, replying to LMS2, 3, #45 of 1392 🔗

Well this doesn’t show them up as particularly intelligent does it:
https://twitter.com/polygenicity/status/1358475130507321354

413966 ▶▶▶▶▶ popo says, replying to CGL, 1, #46 of 1392 🔗

They’re regular tossers, then, just not the coin variety…

413693 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to MikeMayUK, 9, #47 of 1392 🔗

When we talk about elections and who would be a good replacement PM, we are faced with the fact that the decent ones just don’t have what it takes.
Those of us who live from a basis of essential human decency find it hard to understand how the successful leaders in politics and multinational corporations operate. We might be temporarily capable of ruthlessness in order to protect our family, but we could never exhibit that sustained calculated callousness merely to further our own self-interest.

413821 ▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Cheezilla, 1, #48 of 1392 🔗

Elegantly written. Do you mind if I quote that second para (with appropriate acknowledgement) in my forthcoming letter to my MP?

414068 ▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Cheezilla, 4, #49 of 1392 🔗

That’s right. Take JC, for example – an LSE report (front page in pic) showed how the press consistently lied about him, his views and his actions, most notably labelling him an IRA sympathiser when he supported Paul Hill, wrongly convicted of the Guildford bombing. The Sun story on the morning of Hill’s wedding was labelled ‘IRA Pig To Wed’. Interestingly, the LSE report says that the Guardian lied more often about Corbyn than the Daily Mail, preferring gut feelings to facts. Sound familiar???

413715 ▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to MikeMayUK, 5, #50 of 1392 🔗

If there’s no box to vote for the Reform Party at the next election, then it’s a spoiled vote for me.

413229 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Rich, 41, #51 of 1392 🔗

Our most important moral issue is to FIGHT THE MANDATORY VACCINE and stop the roll-out to CHILDREN.

This Big Pharma shakedown is also a costed human experimentation with suppressed short term side-effects and god knows what in the long term. Honest scholars like Dolores Cahill are warning about a ‘storm’ effect when the jabbed comes into contact with a cold.

THIS is the moral issue, as the treasonous scum are going to force people to take jabs frequently from Big Pharma and any deaths etc will be blamed on the disease.

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

We must revolt en masse!

Our ONLY option!

413308 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to FedupofLies, 9, #52 of 1392 🔗

I’ve just posted a bit chute video of another doctor who does an excellent job of explaining how these new vaccines work, and in easy to understand terms.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/thgHE7VUsDrn/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Dangers+of+Covid-19+Vaccine&utm_campaign=2+12+21+Dangers+of+Covid-19+Vaccine

413673 ▶▶▶▶ gipsy2222, replying to LMS2, 31, #53 of 1392 🔗

Last night the topic of vaccines came up. I explained to some friends that given my age and health the risks of covid are minimal and the jabs have limited evidence of efficacy and no long term safety data. I was shouted down as an anti-vax nutter. So they believe that they have the moral high ground because a man in a white coat told them to do it, and in any case a vaccine will be necessary to travel, work or socialise. Apparently I am a nutter because I thought informed consent meant doing some research to be informed about the vaccines, their trial data and the cost benefit. These educated people accepted that the covid risks for under 50s and children are very low but would not even consider my suggestion that blackmail by the government is not a good enough reason to take an experimental drug.

413709 ▶▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to gipsy2222, 13, #54 of 1392 🔗

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you….

413975 ▶▶▶▶▶ albert hall, replying to gipsy2222, 9, #55 of 1392 🔗

You have to hand it to Hancockup and co they did a brilliant job with the propaganda. From low to high IQ the plebs fell for it. It’s the common sensers who actually thought it through.

414509 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to albert hall, #56 of 1392 🔗

I suppose PPE degrees are good for teaching them the hard sell at least.

413617 ▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to FedupofLies, 11, #57 of 1392 🔗

i agree and also the masks the main things i despise

414405 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #58 of 1392 🔗

I agree

413594 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Rich, 19, #59 of 1392 🔗

Yeah it is tough being outspoken when all around are being credulous or fearful. I know I am doing the right thing but it isn’t easy to be isolated.

413778 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Rich, 2, #60 of 1392 🔗

👏 ✅ 👍

413820 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Rich, 5, #61 of 1392 🔗

I agree, Rich. We must stay strong, but it’s hard to do sometimes, especially if your nearest and dearest have an opposing view. Then life seems to be a constant struggle to avoid the elephant in the room.
I think Neil Oliver puts some of the problems very clearly in his interview on Talk Radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfggCDwT-JU

414251 ▶▶ Hound dog, replying to Rich, 1, #62 of 1392 🔗

Punishment for the lockdown perpetrators will be cheered on by the people when we break out of this.

413132 Niborxof, replying to Niborxof, 64, #63 of 1392 🔗

We saved the NHS so it could kill half the Grannys.

413140 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Niborxof, 64, #64 of 1392 🔗

Go to hospital, get Covid, go home, stay home, infect everybody at home, save the NHS.

413134 Hugh_Manity, replying to Hugh_Manity, 11, #65 of 1392 🔗

With thanks to the Urban Dictionary; the definition of insanity:
“The state of suffering a severe psychiatric disease which causes extremely abnormal behaviour or loss of touch with reality ( psychosis ), most commonly associated with schizophrenia and bipolar illness (the manic phase).
King George suffered from bouts of insanity .”.

413200 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Hugh_Manity, 11, #66 of 1392 🔗

Poor old G3 was a model of rationality compared to Bozo.

413270 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Hugh_Manity, 14, #67 of 1392 🔗

Good one. Here’s another, popularised by the American communication expert Dale Carnegie:

Insanity – seeking the importance in fantasy that they can’t get in real life.

I would include Sage in that definition

413212 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Hugh_Manity, 18, #69 of 1392 🔗

Wancock and ‘Scientists’ say diapers, distancing etc…..they can’t explain the spread of CV 19 however which is part of the flu family…..

413466 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to FerdIII, 6, #70 of 1392 🔗

They also can’t explain the disappearance of flu in Sweden and Belarus.

413601 ▶▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to FerdIII, 11, #71 of 1392 🔗

This is one of the most glaring idiocies isn’t it? No flu because muzzles and banging people up have been so effective. Covid because we haven’t worn muzzles and been banged up enough.

414293 ▶▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, #72 of 1392 🔗

A true ‘the science’tist must be able to support at least two mutually exclusive ‘explanations’ at the same time.

413217 ▶▶ MikeMayUK, replying to Hugh_Manity, 25, #73 of 1392 🔗

The work put into eradicating smallpox from the world was Herculean and worthwhile. Pity they didn’t know that an easier option was simply to attribute all smallpox infections to something else.

413620 ▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Hugh_Manity, 3, #74 of 1392 🔗

i think i t ‘s becuase it is the flu. i mean that this’ killer virus’ is the flu

413680 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to sam s.j., 7, #75 of 1392 🔗

I miss the flu. Come back, all is forgiven.

413723 ▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Waldorf, #76 of 1392 🔗

Beautifully put, my Lord!

413142 Annie, replying to Annie, 28, #77 of 1392 🔗

Reported ATL:

There are also now 27.7million adults who are considered vulnerable because of poor health, low financial resilience or events such as redundancy.

This is from a newspaper article, and we all know that any figure relating to Covvie is suspect. But 27.7 million adults?Approaching half the adults in the UK?

Stay safe,indeed.

413154 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Annie, 22, #78 of 1392 🔗

but if it saved one life…… what a shallow materialist you are, putting the economy before human life!

413158 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to JaneHarry, 18, #79 of 1392 🔗

Oooooh, sorry! I am indeed a very villain!

413423 ▶▶▶ Derek Toyne, replying to JaneHarry, 13, #80 of 1392 🔗

The year is 2030 and the history teacher is talking about the covid pandemic of 2020/21. Can anyone tell me how many people died of covid in the UK 140,000 sir says one of the kids.The teacher asks prior to 2020 was there any other pandemic that was as bad as covid. In 1968/69 Hong Kong flu killed 80,000 says another kid. A kid at the back of the class pips up and says sir wasn’t the UK population smaller and younger then. Quite right says the teacher who goes on to point out both pandemics were as deadly as each other. The teacher then goes on to ask the class how was covid brought under control. At that the class all shout lockdown. The teacher then points out that at the time everyone believed this and as a consequence the pandemic lasted longer. The teacher then goes onto explain to the class using various graphs that vaccines and people acquiring immunity due to recovery led to the virus coming under control. The teacher then asks the class does anyone have any questions to which the kid at the back, sir didn’t the pandemic lead to inflation and mass unemployment. Slightly embarrassed the teacher replies that’s a subject for another day and brings the lesson to an end.

413180 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Annie, 14, #81 of 1392 🔗

Yep – remember that phrase about “maintaining a sense of proportion”? Well we remember it – but the Government clearly doesn’t.

413449 ▶▶ Suet, replying to Annie, 5, #82 of 1392 🔗

And these people are all ahead of me in the Vaccination Stakes. Result!

413143 bluemoon, replying to bluemoon, 122, #83 of 1392 🔗

Good morning.
Posters have been advocating lynching and shooting for the perpetrators of this covid/lockdown bollox. I’m proposing incarceration. Those on The List should be dragged off to prison, no doubt they’ll be piteously squealing “But I’ve committed no crime”. The grim response is “Neither have the British people”.
Their cells will be small but with an en suite, I’m not cruel. There is no natural light.
Attached to the wall is a screen showing an endless loop of government and NHS TV advertisements.
A loudspeaker will broadcast ‘celebrities’ who have been twittering about how much they’re enjoying lockdown – and this is their punishment because they’ll stumble over the long words and not understand them – reading out all the regulations enacted since the beginning of this insanity.
A key pad will be provided on which the prisoners can order food, a short menu of fast food: burgers, chips, pizzas, ice cream.
The cell is air conditioned with oxygen depleted air.
An hour of exercise per day is mandated, on a tread mill in a small enclosed space with no sunshine. There is a small bench to sit on but it’s covered in yellow and black striped tape.
A glass panel is set in the cell door. The panel is obscured all the time, except for once a week. Then a shutter is drawn back to reveal for half an hour the prisoner’s family. (This is my favourite feature.)
I haven’t yet figured out how to deliver the exquisite torture of ‘Hancock Promises’, those that administer hope then remove it. Perhaps my mind isn’t devious enough.

413148 ▶▶ Annie, replying to bluemoon, 53, #84 of 1392 🔗

Sounds ideal.
Of course they wear two or more face nappies 24/7/365.
And the family isn’t really there, it’s a Zoom screen.
And it’s for life, with no parole or release ever,ever, ever.

413153 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Annie, 79, #85 of 1392 🔗

PS. Except that from time to time, they’re told that by autumn/Christmas/next year, if they are very very good, some restrictions might be eased. But a day or two before the suggested date, they’re told that we have decided, with a heavy heart, that no easing is possible.

413159 ▶▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Annie, 51, #86 of 1392 🔗

Ooo nice! But I’ve just thought of another way to deliver the ‘Hancock Promise’.
Every 2/3/4/5 weeks four screens are brought into the cell in front of which the prisoner sits. The screens show four solemn faces. The prisoner is encouraged to ask questions, perhaps for improvements in their regime: better conditions, a different diet, longer exercise periods. All the faces on the screen regretfully shake their heads and intone “It’s for your own good”. The screens are removed.

413182 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Annie, 10, #87 of 1392 🔗

Oh yes – mustn’t forget the carrot and the stick stuff – fake promises rule ok.

413738 ▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Annie, 10, #88 of 1392 🔗

Yes; by far the most evil words that have come out of the politicians’ mouths, the bastards. “With a heavy heart” the cunts.

Sorry for my bad language, but my own MP (the bitch) used exactly the same phrase.

If, when this is all over, there is a much-to-be-hoped-for Nuremburg Trial for Crimes against Humanity, please may I volunteer to be the person administering the death penalty? It’s a terrible job, so I wouldn’t want anyone else of a more nervous disposition to have to do it. I will, with a heavy heart, execute the lot of them and see them sadlidie.

413988 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to RichardJames, 5, #89 of 1392 🔗

Deservedlidie. Who’ll be sad?

414329 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Annie, 1, #90 of 1392 🔗

Hee, hee.

Annie, you have made another variant! (Which I like much better than the viral version.)

413215 ▶▶▶ straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to Annie, 27, #91 of 1392 🔗

Keep telling them its only for 3 more weeks.

413231 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, 13, #92 of 1392 🔗

Is there anyone left by now – even amongst the Covidians – that would believe Boris/Hancock et al if they said the sun was going to rise tomorrow?

413317 ▶▶▶▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to ElizaP, 13, #93 of 1392 🔗

Unfortunately millions of people, I know a few of them.

413734 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Annie, #94 of 1392 🔗

Same wavelength Annie! I hadn’t read yours before I posted.

413267 ▶▶ houdini, replying to bluemoon, 19, #95 of 1392 🔗

As a special treat each month they are injected with an unknown substance in order to keep them safe.

413327 ▶▶▶ straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to houdini, 18, #96 of 1392 🔗

You could tell each of them randomly that one of the others has sadly died of covid so we must lock you down even further removing one of their comforts.

414333 ▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to houdini, 1, #97 of 1392 🔗

With extra hand-wringing and a carefully-chosen whining voice; “keeep them saaaaafe…”

413274 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to bluemoon, 5, #98 of 1392 🔗

Good one. Plus they have to wear double muzzles all day every day. Visors optional.

413320 ▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Bart Simpson, 5, #99 of 1392 🔗

Well I did say that the air conditioning was oxygen depleted… nah you’re right, double masks it is!

413342 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to bluemoon, 2, #100 of 1392 🔗

Sounds expensive. And a bit like a ‘regenerative retreat’ advertised in the back of Country Life.

Fire is the answer. Lots and lots of fire.

413740 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to AidanR, 1, #101 of 1392 🔗

I’m sure they’ll get that after their life sentence.

414336 ▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to AidanR, #102 of 1392 🔗

Nuke them from orbit; it’s the only way to be sure.

413487 ▶▶ Jo, replying to bluemoon, 7, #103 of 1392 🔗

I thought of one for Wanco a few months ago.
Chain him to a chair and then get a syringe and fill it with an unknown substance. Tell him that what is in there might cause him harm, perhaps kill him; it might be immediate or when it reacts with something else in the future. Or he might be fine.
Tell him he can be released if he takes this substance, or at least after the second dose.

413742 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Jo, 2, #104 of 1392 🔗

Even better, threaten one of his kids!

414461 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Cheezilla, #105 of 1392 🔗

His kids have suffered enough.

413526 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to bluemoon, 4, #106 of 1392 🔗

How about a “Friday night special” where the criminals are taken to a viewing room, then allowing them to watch a special comilation of cops beating, tazering, strangeling, punching, kicking, and arresting COVID DENIERS, Anti-Lockdown protestors and non-maskers on a loop with surround sound of the screams of pain and rage can be rendered in full 3D.

Ooooh I am bad.

Mind you these psychopaths would probably enjoy that kind of thing.

413589 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to bluemoon, 5, #107 of 1392 🔗

Just hang the bastards

414463 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Jaguarpig, #108 of 1392 🔗

Oh yes please.

413614 ▶▶ Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to bluemoon, 4, #109 of 1392 🔗

Dispatch them by the swiftest method available, and without ceremony. They have wasted enough of our time, and deserve to be quickly forgotten.

413730 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, #110 of 1392 🔗

Swift dispatch is far too kind, considering the long-term misery they’ve inflicted on the population!
They could easily be forgotten while they fester in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.
Bluemoon’s plan is completely appropriate – I’d just add the mandatory wearing of a face nappy (or three) for at least 8 hours per day.

413752 ▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, #111 of 1392 🔗

No, no; I must insist, that’s my penance. I must suffer the punishment of seeing them die, because I have sinned by claiming a genuine mask exemption.

414160 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 2, #112 of 1392 🔗

Tower Hill can be repurprosed for executions.

414170 ▶▶ Hound dog, replying to bluemoon, #113 of 1392 🔗

Tell them they will be released in 3 weeks then 1 day before inject them with a poison and say sorry it will now be another 3 weeks. Repeat over and over again increasing the dose of poison each time. Tell them we are doing this to protect the nhs and bbc. Play on repeat adverts only especially the ones involving ant and dec and poems. Make them wear a mask and limit the amount of oxygen to the cell. Schedule a 5pm news broadcast and have questions only on why more poison is not being administered.

414324 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to bluemoon, #114 of 1392 🔗

I’m for just ridding society of the globalist puppet filth. Plop them into the nearest active volcano. Pay per view. Build homeless shelters with the proceeds.

413144 chaos, replying to chaos, 24, #115 of 1392 🔗

Boris is still PM. Just amazing. Where are the letters?

413201 ▶▶ Llamasaurus Rex, replying to chaos, 24, #116 of 1392 🔗

DePiffle’s narc personality flaws meet the globalist move (accelerated NWO, with social credit etc)….result? The worst PM in the country’s history. Heath, Eden, Balfour, North….all atrocious, but better. Only Blair’s damage, seen in perspective, which is a major enabler for this globalist carnage, comes close to the material damage of dePiffle. Blair loaded the gun, dePiffle pulled the trigger.

413314 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Llamasaurus Rex, 12, #117 of 1392 🔗

Obama and Biden are doing the same to America.

413755 ▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Llamasaurus Rex, 1, #118 of 1392 🔗

Yes, don’t worry; there’s a specially comfortable seat waiting for him and his Wide-Mouthed Frog. His name is very high on Ze List.

414465 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Llamasaurus Rex, 1, #119 of 1392 🔗

Blair is an evil clever bastard, Boris is just an evil bastard.

413348 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to chaos, 10, #120 of 1392 🔗

There aren’t any, because the Tories are spineless pieces of shit.

Labour are an altogether darker bodily waste product. Say someone was trepanned, and then skullfucked by a pack of wild dogs, then their body left for several weeks to decompose in subsaharan heat. If you decanted the decomposed brain into a cup… that’s Labour.

413761 ▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to AidanR, -1, #121 of 1392 🔗

I am beginning to respect you more and more each day, AidanR.

413496 ▶▶ Mutineer, replying to chaos, 1, #122 of 1392 🔗

From YouGov

413498 ▶▶ Mutineer, replying to chaos, #123 of 1392 🔗

And another.

414297 ▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Mutineer, #124 of 1392 🔗

A ‘likeable’ leader? FFS that gave us the ‘very nice man’ Tory ‘Psycho’ Bliar.

413500 ▶▶ Mutineer, replying to chaos, 1, #125 of 1392 🔗

Yet another. I suspect, knowing the brains of many contributors to YouGov that they want harsher lockdowns!

413502 ▶▶ Mutineer, replying to chaos, #126 of 1392 🔗

And it continues.

413504 ▶▶ Mutineer, replying to chaos, 1, #127 of 1392 🔗

Sigh.

413145 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 20, #128 of 1392 🔗

Clapping the killers. North Korea on steroids

413146 ▶▶ chaos, replying to Cecil B, 5, #129 of 1392 🔗

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSo9Uvgh1Mo

Boris and Nut Nut’s new Jerusalem.

413762 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to chaos, #130 of 1392 🔗

Scary!

413147 nickbowes, replying to nickbowes, 29, #131 of 1392 🔗

Time for a “Back to Normal Party” whose first goal is the arrest of all these main players of the hoax, from the Fat Dictator, Mengele hancock and most others of the 650 who are bought and paid for by corrupt global forces , also the “pharma” bucks boys down to the nhs harassing people to take this poison. Only when these scumbags are in the big house will this country be allowed to move on.

413156 ▶▶ Annie, replying to nickbowes, 7, #132 of 1392 🔗

A coup!

413150 Teddy Edward, replying to Teddy Edward, 43, #133 of 1392 🔗

Another Night shift on the front line almost over.Peppered with boredom fast food and trite tv.It’s Hell here especially trying to keep awake.Please clap for me.The only time I encountered clapping as a former NHS Nurse of 27 years is when I caught the clap off an Irish domestic at Guys Hospital.

413152 ▶▶ Rich, replying to Teddy Edward, 6, #134 of 1392 🔗

Teddy, I clap for you – sincerely.

413155 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Rich, 7, #135 of 1392 🔗

And I. Not least because you keep us informed. Thank you.

413161 ▶▶▶ Teddy Edward, replying to Rich, 14, #136 of 1392 🔗

Thank you. I did stare out of the window masked with a plaintive expression mouthing to passers by under my gag. Looking intensely pleading with tearful eyes are you fuckers doing enough to protect these victims.

413511 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Teddy Edward, 7, #137 of 1392 🔗

Wot, no TikTok? Slacker!

413151 JaneHarry, replying to JaneHarry, 19, #138 of 1392 🔗

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HYQIU7Kt4Q7s/ – Dave Cullen’s latest. They’ve tried all this before. The swine flu hoax of 2009 [hot on the heels of that hiccup to the world financial system] – they didn’t manage to pull it off that time, but they learned the lessons of their failure – and the rest of us did not. we let it go, and forgot about it. at our peril.

413319 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to JaneHarry, 7, #139 of 1392 🔗

Indeed:

https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/european-parliament-to-investigate-who-pandemic-scandal.html

“European Parliament to Investigate WHO and “Pandemic” Scandal
by F. William Engdahl
The Council of Europe member states will launch an inquiry in January 2010 on the influence of the pharmaceutical companies on the global swine flu campaign, focusing especially on extent of the pharma’s industry’s influence on WHO. The Health Committee of the EU Parliament has unanimously passed a resolution calling for the inquiry.
The step is a long-overdue move to public transparency of a “Golden Triangle” of drug corruption between WHO, the pharma industry and academic scientists that has permanently damaged the lives of millions and even caused death.”

413160 Scotty87, replying to Scotty87, 92, #140 of 1392 🔗

So the monomaniacal SAGE fanatics are at it again, pressuring our utterly spineless PM into delaying the Great Reopening by “just a couple more months to get the cases down.” But at what cost? It’s clear that politicians and scientists alike are now embarked in a bizarre international competition to completely eradicate Covid-19, with envious eyes cast towards the likes of New Zealand (a country with more sheep than people). Covid-19 deaths are the only deaths in town to these putrid zealots.

The fact that British children commiting suicide due to these torturous restrictions is seen as fair game but Auntie Ethel isn’t allowed to die “with” Covid at the age of 97 tells you all you need to know – the establishment is fully subscribed to this rotten, sociopathic cult which was borne out of utter hysteria, panic and the habit of the state to nanny and interfere with every aspect of our lives.

Academics will pore over this dreadful period in human history for decades, perhaps centuries into the future. “Act Like You’ve Got It” posters will be the subject of robust analysis and discussion just like the Goebbelsian propaganda of the Nazi regime. The key players of this era will be infamous not for their political or business successes, but for the catastrophic harms that they have inflicted on their fellow man. For their crimes against humanity.

That will be the legacy of even the small fish like Boris Johnson. Like swords of Damocles hanging over their heads, they simply cannot escape the brutal judgements of the history books when they are finally written.

413165 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Scotty87, 16, #141 of 1392 🔗

New Zealand. I’m reminded of the story of the British Lions on tour in the 1970’s

Sat at breakfast one morning a front row forward (no names no pack drill) complained

“What no bacon, a country with two million sheep and no bacon”

413168 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Cecil B, 2, #142 of 1392 🔗

No pigs either, apparently.

413173 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 13, #143 of 1392 🔗

No, we’ve got them all. In government, in the MSM, in the opposition, in the police, and of course in SAGE.

413177 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Annie, 9, #144 of 1392 🔗

And also, Annie, we’ve got more 2 legged sheep than 4 legged ones.

413198 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 12, #145 of 1392 🔗

True. There are lots of both hereabouts, and I’m always impressed by the calm rationality shining in the eyes of the four-legged ones.

413788 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Annie, #146 of 1392 🔗

Lovely set of postings!

413172 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Scotty87, 41, #147 of 1392 🔗

There’s no doubt that the Great Covid Insanity will spawn a huge academic industry, just as the Holocaust has done.
The one thing the academics will never discuss is their own spineless cowardice while the nightmare was actually in progress.

413194 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Annie, 20, #148 of 1392 🔗

Like “some” German people who didn’t know that there was a death camp just down the road.

413199 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 15, #149 of 1392 🔗

Until they were frog-marched through it. See what you have done.

413687 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Fingerache Philip, 2, #150 of 1392 🔗

Dachau actually had road signs outside pointing to the camp, with carved figures of SS guards and villainous-looking prisoners. People outside were certainly aware of it. The worst camps, like Auschwitz etc. were however deliberately located in Poland, but concentration camps were a known feature of German life.

414518 ▶▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to Fingerache Philip, #151 of 1392 🔗

No, of course not, that smell was just the local abattoir…

413193 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Scotty87, 21, #152 of 1392 🔗

The victors of a struggle write the history. So we first have to ensure we win.

I fully share your sentiments. I’m sure Hancock, Fergusson Whitty and many others are blissfully ignorant of this possibility. Vallance, I think, suspects it; but Johnson – for all his faults – knows it.

413357 ▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to FedupofLies, #154 of 1392 🔗

Needs a theme tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5yYtzsJAyg

Turn it TF Up!

413237 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Scotty87, 20, #155 of 1392 🔗

We need to mass revolt!

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

These SICK criminals against humanity will get away with it unless we do so.

ALL leadership in politics, NHS, newspaper propaganda and police MUST be put on trial and if found guilty, put away for a LONG TIME.

I will not put up with any liberal softies on here who say otherwise.

If the death penalty is somehow applicable then it should also be sought.

413361 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #156 of 1392 🔗

Hell yes…

Needs a theme tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5yYtzsJAyg

Turn it the fuck Up!

413599 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to FedupofLies, 8, #157 of 1392 🔗

There is an article by Vera Lengsfeld in Germany which reviews the German politicians latest moving of the goalposts and comes to the very same, obvious conclusion:
We can only end the lockdowns ourselves. The politicians, scientists and presstitutes will never, ever do it for us.

413763 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #158 of 1392 🔗

Hear hear

413281 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Scotty87, 9, #159 of 1392 🔗

Hear, hear!! This government has perpetuated large scale Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy which has not only decimated this country’s economy and society but also its citizens’ mental health & well being.

This year in the tercentenary of the office of the Prime Minister. When they come to write another book for the quadcentenary in 2121, Boris Johnson will go down as the worst ever and historians will wonder why a man with so much promise & elected with an 80 seat majority has squandered all that.

414222 ▶▶ richardw53, replying to Scotty87, 2, #160 of 1392 🔗

Don’t rely on the academics. They are just as likely to recount this period as one of collective achievement in defeating the virus, and will thereafter recommend the same mechanism of fear to maintain the collective compliance. We are now living in a post modern, post rational age which has defeated reason and evidence as the foundation of political judgement.

414517 ▶▶ Hugh, replying to Scotty87, #161 of 1392 🔗

New Zealand? When will they fully reopen to international travel, I wonder? Will I ever be able to visit my relatives there (if I refuse the Big Pharma hard sell)?

413163 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 13, #162 of 1392 🔗

Mikey Mike has announced that the BLM protests were a disgrace and that she would never take the knee. Funny, I don’t remember her saying anything about this at the time. If a white person said what she has just said they would get cancelled

Or is it that MM wants to deflect attention away from the MFU that is the airport hotel/prison debacle

I’m no expert on government but it might be an idea to ask the civil servants if a scheme is possible before announcing it and not the other way round

413242 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Cecil B, 9, #163 of 1392 🔗

Please stop using words like ‘debacle’ and ‘madness’.

Calculated totalitarianism inflicted on a nation by Behavioursal Pscyhologist pseudoscientists is NOT a debacle.

The airports are also part of a preparation for the internment of dissidents.

413164 iane, replying to iane, 19, #164 of 1392 🔗

I was thinking about the covid death statistics last night and a couple of significant thoughts occurred.

Firstly, as we all know, the average age of death in the UK is 81 whilst the average age of death WITH covid is 82. Now, surely noone could suggest that covid makes you live longer, so the only conclusion is that the extra year of life, on average, must be due to the extreme efforts that the NHS is putting into care of those with covid, combined with the fact that covid is rife in care homes where many of the already elderly are based.

Secondly, this has consequences for those who claim that covid is on average depriving sufferers of 10 years of life. BUT that would mean that people dying with covid would have gone on to live for an average of 92.4 years. I mean, seriously, do they realise that that is what they are claiming???!!!

413167 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to iane, 5, #165 of 1392 🔗

Ssssshhh!! There is money to be made

413190 ▶▶ landt2020, replying to iane, 11, #166 of 1392 🔗

If you make it to 81, you are in pretty good shape and may well live to 92. 81 is the mean of all people across the UK. Basically if you take all the people who die before 81 out of the equation, the life expectancy of the remaining people could well be up in the 90s.

413208 ▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to landt2020, 22, #167 of 1392 🔗

Not really. Child mortality is low and yes of course people die at all ages. But the average life expectancy is 80. That is just a fact. The post is commenting that the death from CV is about that age. Most people in their 80s suffer from at least 1 condition. A flu or any respiratory attack can indeed finish them off. This includes the normal flu.

If you or the Covid cult is saying ‘look it, the guy died at 82 with CV 19 he could have lived 10 yrs more..’, you would apply the same logic to flu and any other respiratory disease. About 70 K people die every year in the UK from flu+resp problems. Statistical fact. I have never heard anyone say ‘well that 82 yr old could have lived 10 more yrs, too bad about the flu….’. Nothing. Until CV 19.

Never heard a peep from the Covid bedwetter cult in Jan 2018 when 15.000 people died in one week from the flu. Nothing. Imagine if 15K were to die next week from CV 19. They would weld your front door shut.

413288 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to landt2020, 5, #168 of 1392 🔗

Yes, good point that needed to be made.

You are completely correct, as long as you restrict your point to a person of average age say 81, and not an average person of age 81 whose death is labelled as covid.

It is a useful point to say that the average age of death of someone whose death is labelled as covid is around a person’s normal life expectancy at birth, as that puts things into context.

But we shouldn’t draw incorrect conclusions from that or use false logic in respect to that to conclude that the years of life lost are therefore around zero or minus one when we are simply mixing up life expectancies at an older age with the life expectancy at birth.

We should instead use correct logic to conclude that the years of life lost for a covid labelled death are probably between 0 and 1 year.

When you take into account the skewed distribution of the average age of a covid labelled death, then if those dying were of average health for those of that age, and but for covid they would have lived on average for that future life expectancy, you do reach years of life lost in the 15 to 20 range.

But as a thought experiment imagine that SARS-C0V-2 is completely asymptomatic in everybody. Then if you tested everyone for SARS-C0V-2 you would still find the average life expectancy of someone of the same age as those with a covid labelled death to be around 15 to 20. But you know the years of life lost are actually zero, it’s just people are dying of the causes that they would have died of anyway.

The position with SARS-C0V-2 and covid is very similar to that thought experiment. 96% of the covid labelled hospital deaths have co-morbidities, and I suspect that of the remaining 4% most have undiagnosed co-morbidities, which would have caused them to die in most cases relatively soon after. And the average stay until death of someone in a care home is about 2 years and so the years of life lost there has to be very close to zero.

Although we can’t accurately calculate it, the average years of life lost by someone with a covid labelled death is of the order of half a year.

413329 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to landt2020, 2, #169 of 1392 🔗

And here are the life expectancies for an average person of that age based on 2017-2019 experience (so not allowing for future improvements in mortality, which is probably reasonable given the damage caused by the Government covid response)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/datasets/nationallifetablesunitedkingdomreferencetables

It’s the e(x) column that is relevant.

Males
Life expectancy at birth: 79 years
Life expectancy at age 80: 8.5 years

Females
Life expectancy at birth: 83 years
Life expectancy at age 80: 9.8 years

413366 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to landt2020, 2, #170 of 1392 🔗

If you make it to 81, you’ve been in the damned way quite long enough. It’s time to GTFO.

413507 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to AidanR, 3, #171 of 1392 🔗

Psalms 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

413531 ▶▶▶▶ iane, replying to AidanR, 1, #172 of 1392 🔗

In the way of what? Do you think anyone over 81 is causing societal problems? I suppose they tie up the NHS, but on average they have paid their way and are owed such treatment. But maybe you are just pulling our legs?!

413928 ▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to iane, #173 of 1392 🔗

Ya think? 🙂

413869 ▶▶▶▶ Woden, replying to AidanR, 1, #174 of 1392 🔗

Ah, but will you agree to your statement if you make it that far?

413922 ▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Woden, 1, #175 of 1392 🔗

My mother’s going in a wood-chipper in 3 months time… I’ll let you know after that 🙂

413524 ▶▶▶ iane, replying to landt2020, 1, #176 of 1392 🔗

But one is considering a whole distribution of ages affected by covid and not just the 81 year-olds. For your comment to apply, it would be necessary that covid specifically kills those who are super-healthy and who would otherwise, on average, have lived for an extra 10 years: I am dubious!

413667 ▶▶▶▶ ituex, replying to iane, 2, #177 of 1392 🔗

I have a suspicion that the deaths occur in the ‘lucky to have lived that long ‘ group rather than those who are actively playing tennis or golf in their 80s. There are always exceptions before anyone says so, but in the main I think this seems likely to be the case. After all the mortality for an 80 year old unwell with a positive Covid test is around 15-20% not 100%.

413170 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 27, #178 of 1392 🔗

The police announce we are overwhelmed

Doooooh!!! did they only just realise there are 66 million of us and 100,000 of them

413184 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Cecil B, 22, #179 of 1392 🔗

and the vast majority of them seem to spend their time beating up innocent taxpayers making some attempt to lead a normal life – rather than deal with criminals. Oh …perish the thought of dealing with actual criminals – as us normal people are a lot easier to belt round the head.

413285 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to ElizaP, 3, #180 of 1392 🔗

They’re thick, lazy and can’t be bothered that’s why. Dealing with thieves, rapists & fraudsters is soooo much hard work.

413205 ▶▶ alw, replying to Cecil B, 5, #181 of 1392 🔗

Perhaps that would explain why in my part of London siting a policeman other than driving past in a car off to somewhere in a hurry we haven’t seen a policeman for many months.

413424 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Cecil B, 4, #182 of 1392 🔗

By what? Walking around the sea front and arresting people walking with their kids. Is it because you can’t use your car to tell people to put on a mask and you’re having to walk? Might do you some good you fat useless bastard!

413490 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Cecil B, 1, #183 of 1392 🔗

Time to amalgamate the NHS/Police to help the poor dears even the odds.

414554 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Cecil B, #184 of 1392 🔗

660 people per police person? They’re definitely outnumbered

413171 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 36, #185 of 1392 🔗

Wankcock: “We could live with Covid like we do with the flu”.
FOR CHRIST’S SAKE!!!

413175 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 79, #186 of 1392 🔗

Well, Wankok, you stupid, sordid little zombie, that’s exactly what we would have done if you and your disgusting squad of co-Fascists hadn’t decided to wreck the country and enslave the population. You must be so proud,
.

413206 ▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Annie, 24, #187 of 1392 🔗

LDs have only delayed the natural life cycle of the virus. LDs have stopped general immunity. LDs have damaged our own immune systems and psychology and yes the 2 are related. LDs have shuttered gyms and places of exercise which along with vitamins, sunshine and a good life style are your best vaccation. LDs have killed 50K people.

No science to any of their actions. Just pathetic totalitarianism based on fiction.

413244 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to FerdIII, 18, #188 of 1392 🔗

It was ALL about the vaccine roll-out.

This experimental gene therapy.

We must STOP THEM before it becomes endemic to society and they begin to give it to children.

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

In terms of scale, this is the WORST crime against humanity in history.

413432 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #189 of 1392 🔗

Whats that line from the outlaw Josey Wales. “Don’t piss up my back and tell me its raining!”

413690 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Fingerache Philip, #190 of 1392 🔗

A glimmer of sense, for once?

413794 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Waldorf, #191 of 1392 🔗

The point of his statement is the end of the year . What’s he really telling us?!

413872 ▶▶ Woden, replying to Fingerache Philip, #192 of 1392 🔗

Who’d have thought ??

413179 danny, replying to danny, 67, #193 of 1392 🔗

Restaurants and cafes will be able to serve people outside from April?
Ah yes. When I choose to g out for a coffee I always like to bypass the sofas, tables and chairs, ambience and air conditioning of the establishment, buy my overpriced drink and then sit in the burning sun/pouring rain/gale-force winds, just outside said cafe, next to the busy road. Lovely.

413185 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to danny, 14, #194 of 1392 🔗

There’s something about a full English served to takeaway. The polystyrene, the cheap sauce, all ‘served’ together so the beans smell of egg and the sausage is covered in plum tomato juice. Yes, there’s something that is very sad about a takeaway full English.

413186 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to danny, 19, #195 of 1392 🔗

Precisely! You can tell the people making that sort of rule live in the warmer drier climes of Southern England. Do you think we could make them all take compulsory month long holidays in the windiest wettest part of West Wales I can think of? Followed by another month long holiday up the furthest north (and windy) part of Scotland I can think of? During both holidays they are to spend a couple of hours per day each day attempting to have a long leisurely meal outside a cafe (and…no…they’re not allowed to gear up in loads of layers of clothing – they must wear just pretty standard clothing of one layer of average thickness clothing and a cheap raincoat or jacket on top of it). They will be inspected prior to this to ensure they’ve not snuck in any thermal underwear underneath said clothing either.

413717 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to danny, 5, #196 of 1392 🔗

Some countries, like Greece, have appropriate climates for cafe society, even in April. England is not one of these countries.

413181 this is my username, replying to this is my username, 51, #197 of 1392 🔗

This idea of the UK economy being like a “coiled spring” is just another lie being served up to you by the same people who said “three weeks to flatten the curve”. Few have any idea of the real devastation this government is causing – the truth will out when furlough ends (or doesn’t and becomes UBI).

413187 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to this is my username, 16, #198 of 1392 🔗

It is just a sound bite. Completely meaningless. The economy WILL improve the second this ends, we know that. It doesn’t take the Bank of fucking England to exclaim it using a simile.

413188 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to this is my username, 24, #199 of 1392 🔗

That economist saying how wonderful vaccines are – SARS 1 tests stopped when the animals died on contact with wild virus. For SARS 2 we have no animal studies and are in the middle of trials. Anyone recommending them should be locked up and I have just written to my medical practice telling them they are only marginally behind Mengele.

413247 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Bungle, 13, #200 of 1392 🔗

Excuse me, they are AHEAD of them.

The sick bastard Mengele never had the scope of operation these NHS criminals are seeking.

Mass testing on CHILDREN is due to begin.

FIGHT IT!

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

413442 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to this is my username, 11, #201 of 1392 🔗

The coiled spring presumes the economy as it was in March 2020. Have they not noticed the 2 million extra unemployed and 30% of businesses that have gone broke and we have no travel industry and no entertainment sector. Because of online shopping people have not stopped spending and there will he no boom. Yes people will want to go out but if you have to wear a fucking mask would you bother.
These people know as much about business as sage does about effective management of the economy during an endemic virus.

413593 ▶▶ rupert, replying to this is my username, 3, #202 of 1392 🔗

This is to quell any potential narrative as to the true economic damage being inflicted on the country. ‘If the government say it so, then it must be true…’

Meaningless.

413697 ▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to rupert, 2, #203 of 1392 🔗

If the LD carries on much longer, it’ll be more like a coiled sock.

413800 ▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Nessimmersion, 2, #204 of 1392 🔗

A coiled wet sock.

413669 ▶▶ ituex, replying to this is my username, 3, #205 of 1392 🔗

Yes because UBI will be much more basic than the top level of furlough payment.

413191 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 19, #206 of 1392 🔗

BBC

Breaking News

Government announces changes to its daily press briefings

The government has announced that it intends to move away from its daily 5pm press conferences

A spokesperson said “We are aware that the daily briefings cause considerable disruption to peoples daily schedules. We know for example that people have favourite television programs and it is often a difficult choice to switch channels

In addition the current process places heavy burdens on Ministers and Officials. These briefings often tie up three individuals at a time and the whole day can be spent on preparation

In the circumstances we do not consider that the current arrangements are the best use of tax payer funded resources”

The government also announced that it intended to make use of the latest and best technology available to get it’s message across

As from next week the government will hold one press conference a week

The press conference will commence at 9am every Monday and be completed by 5pm the same day

Known as ‘Super Conferences’ they will be hosted by a virtual reality Minister named AIDAN (Artificial Intelligence Dunce and Nonce)

The morning session will comprise of government announcements of ‘this opens’, ‘that closes’,’ we plan to’ etc, etc

At lunchtime there will be a short maintenance break so Bobby the Journalist can wipe Aidan’s backside

The afternoon session will comprise of Aiden reversing everything he/she/it announced in the morning

Bobby is excused the afternoon sessions so he can attend his daily organic, vegan, enjoyment free high tea with a certain Princess Nut Nuts

413196 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Cecil B, 19, #207 of 1392 🔗

Cecil, you can be horribly convincing in your first paragraphs! Naughty!

413339 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to Cecil B, 6, #208 of 1392 🔗

you got me there Cecil until the 7th para!! 🙂 Actually i don’t know when the Weimar hold these as i can’t watch them for my own health and the safety of the TV/radio. I read on here the outcome of the latest patronising drivel passed to the sheep.

413370 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to Cecil B, #209 of 1392 🔗

I’m feeling tangentially traduced somehow 😀

413383 ▶▶ Cat Woman, replying to Cecil B, 4, #210 of 1392 🔗

Cecil, you completely got me there. I was reading this out to my husband and cheering. We have been complaining about the BBC because they keep taking off the Bidding Room for the pointless briefings. We lost about half of the last series and of course, BBC don’t repeat them or put them on iPlayer. Gggggrrrrr 😁

413400 ▶▶▶ CGL, replying to Cat Woman, 2, #211 of 1392 🔗

He got me yesterday – he won’t get me again though 🙂

413195 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 6, #212 of 1392 🔗

Daily Mail: Scientists urge Boris to keep brakes on for two more months.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9255421/Scientists-urge-Boris-brakes-two-months.html

413203 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Tom Blackburn, 17, #213 of 1392 🔗

‘Scientists’. Now running a country. Now relevant. Now powerful. Now getting rich. Now ensuring contracts go to friends and family.

In related news the scientists with the Soviet Cominterm urge Gorbachev not to proceed too hastily with Glasnost.

413197 Tom Blackburn, 2, #214 of 1392 🔗

Al Jazeera English: All hypotheses remain open on COVID origins: WHO chief.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/12/all-hypotheses-on-the-table-on-covid-origins-who-chief

413202 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 26, #215 of 1392 🔗

ATL, JHB, tweet poll of 85 K is heartening. 60% want an end to LDs now and/or when the over 70s are vaxx’d with whatever you believe that vaxx to be…..maybe we are not alone in this. Certainly more believable than Gov’t-BBC-YouGov nonsense.

413509 ▶▶ Mutineer, replying to FerdIII, 7, #216 of 1392 🔗

Many of us ‘oldies’ will NOT accept a death elixir, thank you! They will never get 100% of over 70’s culled.

414167 ▶▶ Cotton Wool, replying to FerdIII, 2, #217 of 1392 🔗

That’s right vax the oldies, doesn’t matter if it kills them, they were going to die anyway! Ageist wanker

413204 Tim Bidie, replying to Tim Bidie, 20, #218 of 1392 🔗

Now that the means exist to treat extreme cases of covid 19 (and any other common cold virus) amongst the elderly and infirm cheaply and effectively:

‘We’ve never had a good treatment for the common cold, it does make people sick, especially older people, and perhaps this could be it,” Professor Nicolau said.

“These pandemics are now coming every five years or so, and this treatment should work for the next one, because hyper-inflammation is not particular to COVID, it happens with all respiratory infections.”

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/over-the-counter-inhalers-suppress-severe-covid-symptoms-trial-finds-20210210-p5716m.html

There can be no reason not to implement the recommendations of the the Great Barrington Declaration forthwith:

‘Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.’

https://gbdeclaration.org/

413213 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Tim Bidie, 13, #219 of 1392 🔗

Yes indeed, I think the failure to invest in and develop effective treatments for severe covid has been one of the big scandals of this hoo-haa. All along the arrogance and conceit of the politicians and health tyrants has been breathtaking as they assume they are in total control of this virus and can wipe it out with their nasty vaccines.
If we had better effective treatments then the level of concern and angst over this nonsense would have scaled down long ago.

413226 ▶▶▶ DeepBlueYonder, replying to Steve Martindale, 3, #220 of 1392 🔗

Yes. Fear eats the soul.

413263 ▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to Steve Martindale, 7, #221 of 1392 🔗

‘Not though the soldier knew
Someone had blundered.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.’

And the blunder has been, massive, at the strategic level, so NHS senior management/SAGE/government directly responsible. Simple solutions at ward level using multivitamins, zinc, doxycycline and ivermectin and, now, cheap anti asthma inhalants, would have saved so much mortality amongst the elderly and infirm, immunocompromised. But, as ever, big spending solutions are preferred by ministerial bureaucracies, more money, more importance for their silo/ministry…..gongs, baubles, treble peerages all round then home for tea… and so on.

The government are clearly aware of this which is why Britain has had the massive PR noise: obfuscation.

But they will all have to face the music in the end………

413803 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #222 of 1392 🔗

It was soon realised that we had effective treatments but they were suppressed because they didn’t fit the agenda.

413207 alw, replying to alw, 14, #223 of 1392 🔗

I have had this feeling that the vaccination rollout is not as successful as the government would have us believe.

“Ministers urge most vulnerable to get jab”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-vaccine-lockdown-end-uk-cases-quarantine/

413209 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to alw, 13, #224 of 1392 🔗

Many health care workers refuse to take the poison. 300 dead in the UK from it, 100 K injured- though the Fake News says it has nothing to do with the vaxx. (they prob died from Covid of course…..)

413221 ▶▶▶ JME, replying to FerdIII, 13, #225 of 1392 🔗

I’ve heard it’s around 30% of health workers round here- me & my wife included.

413236 ▶▶▶▶ l835, replying to JME, 8, #226 of 1392 🔗

Another example of the NHS’ divas I say, no as I do policies cf fat nurses handing out obesity advice.

413254 ▶▶▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to l835, 2, #227 of 1392 🔗

NHS divas……

Brilliant!

413471 ▶▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to l835, 7, #228 of 1392 🔗

Gave up going for ‘health checks’ when the statin pusher told me I was a fat drunk (tell me something I don’t know!). My small victory was my statin defying blood test result.

413683 ▶▶▶▶▶ ituex, replying to l835, 3, #229 of 1392 🔗

This is one of my bugbears. Both my husband and I have complained to our GP practice about this. I was asked to move practices for being unreasonable. Seriously the health advice nurse is so fat she sweats and is breathless sitting down.

413819 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to ituex, #230 of 1392 🔗

Yuk!

413225 ▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to FerdIII, 8, #231 of 1392 🔗

And many health workers will be aware of just how little danger they are in from an endemic common cold coronavirus, some of which we have been living with for over a century.

They will also know that the hyper inflammation that is the main cause of mortality from any common cold viruses is now eminently treatable (has been for some time, but needed a proper trial…) with cheap anti asthma inhalants:

‘“When we first began the trial back in March [2020], we were hoping for 50 per cent reduction [in risk of developing serious symptoms], which itself would have been very high,” he said.

“We got 90 per cent, which even with only a few hundred people is off the charts.
“And it’s not just the overall result – their temperatures are less, they get less fever, and they recover faster.”

Professor Nicolau said they realised in the early stages of the pandemic that people with asthma were under-represented in severe and fatal cases of COVID-19.

They hypothesised that the use of steroid inhalers, which suppress immune response in the lungs, could have a beneficial effect on COVID-19 patients who often suffered lung damage due to overactive immune response to the disease.’

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/over-the-counter-inhalers-suppress-severe-covid-symptoms-trial-finds-20210210-p5716m.html

The medical side of this silliness has been over for some time.

England’s problem is not the covid 19 virus but the public sector healthcare management virus (and the politics associated with it). Just check the 15-44 age group Euromomo z scores for England April/May 2020, Dec 2020/Jan 2021; England the only country out of 27 with mortality above ‘substantial increase’ for that age group in those two periods….clearly nothing to do with SARS CoV 2!

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#z-scores-by-country

413686 ▶▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Tim Bidie, 1, #232 of 1392 🔗

There has recently been an admission that Budesonide a steroid inhaler is protective and if used early can keep 90% out of hospital.

413257 ▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to FerdIII, 18, #233 of 1392 🔗

Every day I read a Twitter post from someone whose relative has suffered after having the vaccine. Here is today’s:

https://twitter.com/ALEXNEWMAN_JOU/status/1360327872209170432

Despite my pleading, dad took the covid “vaccine” a couple days ago. This morning he passed out for the first time in his life and was taken by ambulance to the ER with wild heart issues. If something happens to him, I will not rest until all involved are held accountable.

413293 ▶▶▶ Rhema, replying to FerdIII, 1, #234 of 1392 🔗

Could you direct me to a UK source/website for stats on deaths & injuries following the C-19 vaccine? I’ve been looking but it’s unsurprisingly not easy to find in the UK. It seems easier to see stats in the US on VAIERS website but I’m sure injuries are under-reported on this.

413512 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Rhema, 2, #235 of 1392 🔗

Rhema

This is the official website logging ‘yellow card’ reports (i.e. adverse reactions following vaccination but not necessarily connected to the vaccination). Needless to say, it doesn’t get any coverage in the mainstream media.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

413250 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to alw, 7, #236 of 1392 🔗

GOOD! Now we must REVOLT!

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

Once more people realise there are millions who are against these FILTHY SWINE, more will step forward.

413210 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 18, #237 of 1392 🔗

Is this true for any of you, or anyone you know?

Broken Britain

Feeling stress,
Life’s a mess,
Kids on screens,
Want to scream.

Endless days,
No more play,
Need to hide,
Nerves fried.

Lonely, broken,
Harsh words spoken,
Feeling numb,
Need to run.

Open doors,
We implore,
It’s no joke,
Families broke.

413468 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Liberty, 3, #238 of 1392 🔗

Bob covers it well as usual, prescient and omniscient!

Broken hands on broken ploughs
Broken treaties, broken vows
Broken pipes, broken tools
People bending broken rules
Hound dog howling, bullfrog croaking
Everything is broken

Copyright
© 1989 by Special Rider Music

413211 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 7, #239 of 1392 🔗

Get a load of this:

Exclusive: We hope to live with Covid like flu by end of the year, says Matt Hancock
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/02/12/matt-hancock-hope-live-covid-like-flu-end-year/

Matt Hancock has said he hopes vaccines and treatments will have turned Covid into a disease we can “live with, like we do flu” by the end of the year.
In an interview with The Telegraph – which you can read in full below – the Health Secretary said new drugs designed to tackle the virus should arrive in 2021, making it a “treatable disease”.

Click reload then ‘esc’ to get full article.

413230 ▶▶ Dan L, replying to Basileus, 3, #240 of 1392 🔗

Vaccine buses! I’d wait for the next one if that turned up at the bus stop.

413328 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Dan L, #241 of 1392 🔗
413359 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Basileus, 1, #242 of 1392 🔗

Now that he has planted the seed of “treatments” into peoples’ minds, watch for subsequent statements where “vaccines” are not mentioned, only “treatments”.

413829 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Ewan Duffy, 2, #243 of 1392 🔗

The seed he was actually planting was the end of the year .

413377 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Basileus, 14, #244 of 1392 🔗

There are already drugs available that make it a treatable disease.
They decided not to use them, and to silence anyone who tried.

413691 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to LMS2, 4, #245 of 1392 🔗

Absolutely. The problem was that the advice was to stay at home and only get help if you deteriorated significantly. By then it was too late for all the basic cheap treatments such as Ivermectin and steroid inhalers. They need to be taken early.

413214 MikeMayUK, replying to MikeMayUK, 21, #246 of 1392 🔗

Regarding vaccine passports and the like, it occurs to me that we will need a method of easily identifying those refuseniks who refuse to be vaccinated, preferably in a way that persuades them of the error of their views.

I sugest some form of emblem to be worn on the clothing of these people whenever they venture outside, something that reminds us all of the benevolent forces that acting to our benefit to save us from this terrible, terrible disease, namely the Prime Minister, the Health Secretary, SAGE, the NHS, the pharmaceutical industry, and the great British public.

Say, a six-pointed star. Coloured yellow, the colour of quarantine.

Additional help in identifying refuseniks who try to get away with not identifying themselves in this way could be obtained by recruiting our fantastic youngsters (they seem to have a lot free time at the moment) as a sort of flushing-out corps – they could be called the Hancock Juniors, or HJ for short.

With these measures in place, we might finally be moving forward a solution to this problem that we did nazi coming.

413216 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to MikeMayUK, 8, #247 of 1392 🔗

Wancock Youth perhaps?
You could make the refuseniks sing the Horst Vessel song as well, as they clean up public spaces and build public projects.

413457 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to FerdIII, 1, #248 of 1392 🔗

‘HJ’ was a joke for the German speakers (or those with a working knowledge at least). ‘Tomorrow Belongs to Me’ (written for the film but very authentic feel).

413754 ▶▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Nigel Sherratt, 2, #249 of 1392 🔗

Hitler Jugend – I didn’t study German but I know that one!

413218 ▶▶ Liberty, replying to MikeMayUK, 1, #250 of 1392 🔗

Maybe we will have to wear masks but the vaccinated will be liberated? Masks would suddenly become a sign of dissent.

413450 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to MikeMayUK, 2, #251 of 1392 🔗

We could be made to hang one of these round our necks (wreck of SS Richard Montgomery in background).

413220 primesinister, replying to primesinister, 2, #252 of 1392 🔗
413441 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to primesinister, #253 of 1392 🔗

Excellent, thanks.

413222 Boris Bullshit, replying to Boris Bullshit, 38, #254 of 1392 🔗

Just seen the new government propaganda advert with successions of moronic celebrities blithely repeating the same tired mantras about staying at home and saving the NHS.

Whatever happened to people using their brains to assess their own risks and make their own decisions. God I hate what this sewer of a country has become.

In Telford where I live every bus is driving around with an electronic sign that reads ‘Captain Sir Tom Moore Thank You’. You see that as often as the bus’s destination!

Add that to the huge ‘Thank You NHS’ banners attached to road signs and we are becoming more like the old Soviet Union everyday. Are we soon going to have murals everywhere with pictures of the ugly cretins Johnson, Gove and Ferguson et al to worship on the rare occasions we are allowed out of our houses?

413228 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Boris Bullshit, 26, #255 of 1392 🔗

I think there should be an award for the most infantile, banal and nauseating slogan of this hoo-haa.
Devon County Council have just sent round a note with the attached image and this jolly warning;
And finally… spread love, not coronavirus this Valentine’s Day Love might be in the air this weekend, but remember, so is coronavirus! So if roses are red and violets are blue, remember don’t get too close, and keep that mask on too! Don’t be stupid because of cupid!

413235 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Steve Martindale, 18, #256 of 1392 🔗

Pass the sick bag on that one Steve!

I presume they were not impressed with the couple caught ‘fornicating’ in the car at 2am at -3 degrees C! Sounds more like the spirit of Valentines Day than that ghastly Devon County Council homily.

413255 ▶▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Boris Bullshit, 2, #257 of 1392 🔗

I still don’t understand why the outside temperature is relevant to that story. Presumably they kept the engine running so it was nice and toasty warm inside the car anyway?

413311 ▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, #258 of 1392 🔗

One hopes so yes! I think there may have been ‘performance problems’ otherwise lol.

413303 ▶▶▶ straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #259 of 1392 🔗

I think I need a second bucket.

413338 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #260 of 1392 🔗

I should slit my wrists after reading that tripe.

413534 ▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #261 of 1392 🔗

Words cannot describe …

413567 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #262 of 1392 🔗

POISON. What is wrong with these people?

413692 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Steve Martindale, #263 of 1392 🔗

It makes me want to take up skydiving.

413297 ▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Boris Bullshit, 1, #264 of 1392 🔗

Reminded of the excellent Chris Morris satire where he got loads of slebs to condemn a fake drug.

413367 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Fiona Walker, 1, #265 of 1392 🔗

Cake! Everyone likes cake!

413334 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Boris Bullshit, 9, #266 of 1392 🔗

Those celebs should be rounded up and made to “stay at home” in a tower block or council estate somewhere in Tottenham or Edmonton or Govan where there are no green spaces, no chi-chi high street and rampant with crime and anti-social behaviour.

I guarantee you, they will do a U turn faster than you can say “Thank You NHS”

As for those asinine “Thank you NHS” banners and posters, I’m itching to tear then down or vandalise them.

413434 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Bart Simpson, 3, #267 of 1392 🔗

They’ve been replaced by signs saying ‘Thanks for the clap but now what about our pay rise?’ locally. Coming down from the Sir Tom biscuit fund sugar rush probably. Perhaps they ate the whole fund before anyone thought to set up a local chillax pod.

413336 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Boris Bullshit, 4, #268 of 1392 🔗

it’s classic fascist propaganda, isn’t it. we are all supposed to be brimming with gratitude towards a benevolent regime which is working tirelessly in our interests. the idea that we should bear responsibility for our own lives is anathema.

413421 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Boris Bullshit, 7, #269 of 1392 🔗

The local 666 bus route used to have the sign alternately flashing up a cartoon ‘Old Nick’ on the destination boards and there was a large collection of themed stuffed toys by the driver. A jolly bit of local colour until some busybody killjoy complained.

413223 Laurence, replying to Laurence, 9, #270 of 1392 🔗

The Israeli hospitalisation rates post vaccination look horrendous – this is far from a good news story.

Per the Israeli Times, 523,000 people and, according to the Jerusalem Post, 715,000 people have had two doses more than one week ago. According to the Jerusalem Post, they have had between 7 and 18 days since the second dose, or an average of 12.5 days assuming even vaccinations over the time period. However, the new infection has to take effect at least a week after the vaccination to count in these stats, and it would take on a very conservative basis at least 5-10 days from new infection to hospitalisation, so there would be a maximum 3.5 days to be hospitalised (18-7-7.5) and, assuming vaccines are running at a consistent daily level, that would give an average of 1.75 days.

So annualise 16 hospitalisations (J Post figure) over 1.75 days, gives 7,787 over a year (16 x 365/1.75) and adjust to the size of the UK population (67m/ 721,000 x 7,787) = 723,618 hospitalisations per year equivalent for the UK. Now, as of yesterday we’ve had 418,148 hospitalisations with COVID (not even all from COVID) in just under one year. So why are all these vaccinated Israelis going to hospital. This sounds quite alarming !

As regards the deaths figures, Maccabi Healthcare Services report (J Post) that of 248,000 members who have had at least a week since the second vaccination, none were hospitalised. Now the chance of a random sample of any age of 248,000 people not dying, let alone going to hospital, in 1 week is 0.0000000000000000002% (1 in 500 million trillion). So some must have died – it’s just a question of how many of those that died had the virus within the last 28 days.

Now, this comes with a huge caveat that it is just according to newspaper figures, so if anyone has further information to add, I would be pleased to hear.

413286 ▶▶ swedenborg, replying to Laurence, 2, #271 of 1392 🔗

According to Berenson (one of the best as he always links to facts) Times of Israel story is not correct. See below. The best one can say is that after 2 doses you might expect 70 % protection. One dose no protection. Lots of conflicting reports out of Israel and Nethayanu has many suspect connections with Pfizer. Be careful assess any data from Israel.

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1359944293331460097

 They now claim it is two weeks after the booster dose (5 weeks after the first shot). Only reason to create this subgroup is that it is relatively tiny so deaths are low in it for now. Ignore the headline. The story is in the table, which shows 41 deaths one-week after dose 2

413405 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to swedenborg, 2, #272 of 1392 🔗

Yeah zero deaths is just laughable given what we know.

413298 ▶▶ Laurence, replying to Laurence, 3, #273 of 1392 🔗

Correction, annualised Israeli deaths should be 3,337 which is 310,108 on UK equivalent population basis. Still very little improvement over non vaccine.

413309 ▶▶▶ swedenborg, replying to Laurence, 2, #274 of 1392 🔗

This from Michael Levitt(himself being vaccinated)who is worried about the data

https://twitter.com/MLevitt_NP2013/status/1360454673875009538

In Israel, 3 weeks of 2021 excess death
add to ~400, about third of all IL excess death in 2020.

Likely too early, but a worrying sign. Daily reported Covid deaths dropping but at 45/day still higher than any 7-day average in 2020.

Hope to be wrong.

413224 Basileus, 4, #275 of 1392 🔗

This post is a summary of the MHRA vaccine risk report.

https://twitter.com/SharpieDj/status/1360297332357668868

I can’t currently locate the data on the MHRA website.

413227 Mike, replying to Mike, 56, #276 of 1392 🔗

Why is LS still pushing the vaccine or at least its efficacy…come on, most of us here know we don’t need it, and the questions really should be asked why its being rolled out so aggressively in the first place. If you want to take it fine, good luck, have at it, but these articles discussing this vaccine or that one rather than pulling down the narrative for the need to vaccinate the vast majority of the population is getting boring. If many of us wanted to hear how great the jab is we’d be on one of the MSN websites.

We prop up the narrative of our oppressors by simply discussing these jabs as the way out of lock down. From the point of view of Boris/wancock et al of course they are the way out, its what this has all been about since the start. So why is it being celebrated and its virtues discussed so often on this site. Other than being forced to take it or coerced in to it through fear mongering many people wouldn’t even consider getting this after the old and infirm have been dosed up.

Its obvious the timing of the vaccine roll out has been planned to do two things; firstly, take credit for the usual seasonal decline in respiratory illness which occurs annually around March – April as the weather and light levels improve; secondly, use the eagerness of the masses(sheep) to get away on spring/summer holidays or attend sports events during the nicer weather as a catalyst for getting the under 50’s to take the jab.

We’ll then have a couple of months (if we’re lucky) of semi-lockdown before it all ramps up again in September with new varieties. Thats not including the risk of the hayfever season being co-opted for the COVID narrative again as per last year.

Keep an eye on OZ for an idea of what we can look forward to. They are coming into Autumn once again so we should get a glimpse of what the plans are next for how our overlords will spin this narrative.

413238 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Mike, 23, #277 of 1392 🔗

Swayne and other MPs opposing LDs are also pro-Vaxx.

LDS and these MPs don’t understand that the Vaxx is a gross betrayal of law, morality and as a precedent, would mean that the morons calling themselves ‘scientists’ can in the future, force you to take anything for the ‘public good’….this is called a ‘slippery slope’ and whether you look at queers, Muslims, wokeness, socialism, or Covidism, the slope is steep and slippery indeed.

413300 ▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Mike, 1, #278 of 1392 🔗

I’m happy for all the masked zombies to take it, more fool them.

413232 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 5, #279 of 1392 🔗

Apparently there is another data release from the USA VAERS database:

https://principia-scientific.com/cdc-500-deaths-after-mrna-jabs-vaccine-hesitancy-rising-fast/

413233 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Basileus, 10, #280 of 1392 🔗

300 in the UK. Hundreds across Europe. But some idiot with a calculator will say ‘well that is only 0.2% of those vaxx’d…’. Yeah the death rate from CV 19…..

413252 ▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 11, #281 of 1392 🔗

“The data goes through January 29, 2021, with 11,249 recorded adverse events , including 501 deaths following injections of the experimental COVID mRNA shots by Pfizer and Moderna.”

Where is the outrage at the deaths of 500 in the US, 80 in Gibraltar, 300 in the UK, hundreds across Europe?….and this is ONLY what is REPORTED. Multiply by 5?

413234 PatrickF, 5, #282 of 1392 🔗

New virus + new vaccine = permanent lockdown

413239 Tim Bidie, replying to Tim Bidie, 4, #283 of 1392 🔗

The evidence is now crystal clear that England has the worst healthcare outcomes of 27 European countries.

This is no longer a matter of solving a minor common cold coronavirus epidemic.

The healthcare crisis in England is a great deal more fundamental than that and can no longer be hidden; obvious to all in the clear light of day

England’s problem is not the covid 19 virus but the public sector healthcare management virus (and the politics associated with it).

Just check the 15-44 age group Euromomo z scores for England April/May 2020, Dec 2020/Jan 2021; England the only country out of 27 with mortality above ‘substantial increase’ for that age group in those two periods….clearly nothing to do with SARS CoV 2!

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#z-scores-by-country

This has been a natonal disgrace for far too long.

The solution?

https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Niemietz-NHS-Interactive.pdf

413243 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Tim Bidie, 29, #284 of 1392 🔗

2 beds per 1000. Belaus has 12.
£140 bn – unlimited funding.
They hire diversity officers, climate changers and endless management.
NHS is a disgrace.
They killed 10.000 older people by moving them into health care homes last spring.
More people will die contracting CV and other diseases in the NHS than anywhere else.

NHS org is broken. Break it up, make it compete.

413246 ▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to FerdIII, 4, #285 of 1392 🔗

Spot on!

413249 ▶▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Tim Bidie, 13, #286 of 1392 🔗

Thank you. NHS is a protected species. That worship has to end. They are now actively deciding who lives and dies etc. I pay enormous taxes to them, yet apparently I am ‘not an essential worker’….and I can’t get normal access.

413410 ▶▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to FerdIII, 1, #287 of 1392 🔗

The worship of NHS/Moloch is your patriotic duty citizen!

413583 ▶▶▶ TyRade, replying to FerdIII, #288 of 1392 🔗

GDP fell all but 10% in the Year of the COVID, thanks to government’s sage policy reaction. This was ‘real’ GDP, but assume the same fall for money GDP. That would mean government burned through £282 billion last year (10% of £2829 billion GDP for 2019). Actually worse; for GDP would have otherwise grown around the 2% trend; so they pi$$ed away another £56 billion. That’s a total £338 billion (282 + 56). That’s two and a half NHS years (not quality years, obviously). So, instead of imposing national self harm, we could have expanded NHS capacity to handle all ailments and variants known to man and had hope and livelihoods and some faith in democracy left over.

414042 ▶▶▶ popo says, replying to FerdIII, #289 of 1392 🔗

To my credit I have never got around to praise ‘our’ NHS and only ever gave them cautious approval. I struggle to accept the ‘efficiency’ claims made for it. Something didn’t feel right. You’ve got to look at ‘averages’ and not anecdotes. I think the averages tell a very different story to the ‘Frontline’ hagiographies.

I have a rare and costly to treat chronic condition so, be in no illusion, I would be dead today but for the service as it existed a decade ago. But what’s left of the service today looks more like a skeleton.

From a purely ‘health economics’ position, the NHS spends too much money in toto and does so in the wrong places [IMO] compounding the error.

Provided you only treat simple medical problems and stop treating chronic conditions like diabetes and even cancers altogether you could save a tonne of money and ‘only’ shave maybe a couple of years off the average life expectancy Public health first, personalised health second.

It’s a radical suggestion of course but the way things are going that is likely to be the shape of things 10 years from now anyway.

413262 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Tim Bidie, 14, #290 of 1392 🔗

“The evidence is now crystal clear that England has the worst healthcare outcomes of 27 European countries.”

Is it? I’m not defending the failings of the NHS but it’s clear to me that this country has been determined since the start to manipulate the stats to make it look like we are doing as badly as possible.

Dodgy death certs
Deaths with not from covid
Deaths within any date of a positive test now 28 days
Positive tests as cases
Tests run at way too many cycles
Mass testing of asymptomatic people
Hospitals supposedly overwhelmed

Other countries do the exact opposite and make it look like the situation is much better than it is. How can you trust any representation? It’s clear they’re grossly over-estimating the risks in order to justify their tyrannical actions.

413279 ▶▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 4, #291 of 1392 🔗

England does not run Euromomo:

‘From 2016 onwards, the EuroMOMO network has been supported by and worked closely with the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) Regional Office for Europe.’

https://www.euromomo.eu/about-us/history/

The Euromomo evidence is clear……for stark contrast, not even Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland 15-44 mortality is above ‘substantial increase’ for April/May 2020, Dec 2020/Jan 2021, only England out of 27 European countries…….

No place to hide for NHS England senior management, SAGE, government.

And you are correct, that is the reason for all the PR noise: to hide the increasingly obvious fact that NHS England has been hopelessly incompetent at a strategic level. The finger incontrovertibly points at senior NHS leaders, SAGE, government (those same people who, unsurprisingly, control the NHS England PR budget!)

413698 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 2, #292 of 1392 🔗

Yes I agree. The idea was to frighten people at the beginning and they just stuck with the all encompassing death counts.

413304 ▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Tim Bidie, 6, #293 of 1392 🔗

And yet we are instructed to clap the NHS, worship and protect it. This goes beyond Stockholm Syndrome into seriously masochistic fetish territory.

413241 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 11, #294 of 1392 🔗

In my opinion the writer of the article on Gibraltar entirely misses the point

If they save just one life then surely the eighty deaths will have been worth it

413245 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Cecil B, 4, #295 of 1392 🔗

80 dead old people. More bed space. Covidiots will be pleased. Save the Gibraltar NHS they scream.

413248 TJN, replying to TJN, 19, #296 of 1392 🔗

Fascinating and telling piece in Conservative Woman about the UK’s failure of science – specifically SAGE – in dealing with covid.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/sage-and-the-failure-of-science/

In a nutshell, scientists suffer badly from confirmation bias. This appears to me to get to one of the root causes of why we’re in this mess. The article concludes:

… I am concerned to the point of alarm over the quality of advice from the Sage committee. My suggestion, to avoid future committees of scientific advisers falling into the trap I believe Sage is currently in, is to make a clear distinction between the development of scientific opinion and the oversight of that opinion. Government scientific advisers should be charged with assessing the quality and validity of independent experts and also with sourcing and weighing potentially contradictory opinions. They should not be charged with developing those opinions themselves, as doing so entails a loss of objectivity. This would help avoid the reputations of the committee members becoming entangled in the nature and quality of the advice itself. This structure would, I believe, serve policy-makers better by ensuring the committee had the ability to change their position when necessary.

I would add something else: there needed to be a regular change of personnel among the government scientific advisors, so as to bring in fresh thoughts and perspectives. It appears that the exact opposite has been done, and deliberately . We are stuck with the same old tired, discredited and increasingly ridiculed faces, long past their sell-by-date, who through egregious arse-covering are in fact only making their eventual denouement even worse.

413406 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to TJN, 1, #297 of 1392 🔗

Trouble is, like ‘fact checkers’ they would still produced biased balls to achieve their objectives. Like the thermaggedon linked Community Assemblies, a pathetically obvious set up recommended heartily by the XR loonies.

413433 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Nigel Sherratt, 3, #298 of 1392 🔗

An increasing glaring question is raising its head: is science leading the government, or is government directing the science? We sit around and blame Ferguson, but is he just a Useful Idiot?

414044 ▶▶ popo says, replying to TJN, #299 of 1392 🔗

Always a mistake to not employ people on the basis of results, eh? Unsackable eh? Qanon will claim anything but Scianon not apparently.

413251 wendyk, replying to wendyk, 18, #300 of 1392 🔗

https://omarskhan.medium.com/magical-thinking-c4bad6944dca

Brilliant article by Omar Khan, for those who might have missed it.

Meanwhile, here in the long stay asylum, we find that Anthea Turner has been set upon by the twitter attack dogs for ‘ableism’ and ‘fat shaming’.

Megaphone Morgan has denounced her comments as despicable, as he reaches Olympian heights of righteous hypocrisy.

In my small town there are several folk who are morbidly, frighteningly obese: one is so fat that she has developed a fatty abdominal apron and significant body odour.

Her dimensions obviously place limits on personal hygiene.

But hey, they wear masks, while I’m a bare faced heretic and thus more likely to attract condemnation, especially as I’m not overweight and not eligible for woke protection.

What can one say?

413266 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to wendyk, 25, #301 of 1392 🔗

The sight of morbidly obese people wearing masks or in my area some of them are going OTT and wearing both masks & visors is rather ironic given what the data has told us – that Covid is more likely to develop in people who are obese, lack Vitamin D or have underlying respiratory conditions such as lung cancer or emphysema.

There was a cartoon making the rounds back June/July last year where an obese woman wearing a mask and sitting in her motorised scooter with a McDonald’s meal was barking to a young slim & attractive woman – “put a mask on, you’re putting my health at risk.”

You can bet that this has happened more than once in real life.

413283 ▶▶▶ wendyk, replying to Bart Simpson, 4, #302 of 1392 🔗

We’re stuck in a matrix of madness Bart

413341 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to wendyk, 1, #303 of 1392 🔗

Sad but true.

413749 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 6, #304 of 1392 🔗

Anthea Turner recently tweeted this very same cartoon and was condemned by the rent a mob PC twitter brigade. The fact is its true I see a lot of huge people giving me a dirty look for not wearing a mask. Well if you want to reduce risks get those jaws wired up buffalo arse.

413895 ▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Boris Bullshit, #305 of 1392 🔗

Proves they don’t believe their own masks provide them any protection.
That’s where10 years of compulsory schooling gets you!

414083 ▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Boris Bullshit, 2, #306 of 1392 🔗

Anyone who is that fat in real life, who is still scoffing McDonalds, does not deserve very much sympathy. Typical of Piers Morgan pretending to be outraged over something when everyone else can clearly see the point that Anthea was making.

413253 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 14, #307 of 1392 🔗

A “gushing” post popped up in my LinkedIn feed, due to one of my contacts liking it. It was a post by a nurse administering experimental gene therapy – sorry, vaccines, in Warrington.

She ended her post with the following line: “Let’s put an end to this pandemic. Together let’s save lives and protect people’s mental health.”

Has no-one told her that the Government are not planning on lifting restrictions any time soon and that this will not improve peoples’ mental health. I also wonder how proud she will be when ADE kicks in in those she “helped”.

413305 ▶▶ Lockdown_Lunacy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 2, #308 of 1392 🔗

Eurgh. I can’t read my LinkedIn feed anymore. Let’s face it, it’s never been a place for frank and honest discussion of anything, but corona has sent the virtue signalling into overdrive on there.

413256 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 7, #309 of 1392 🔗

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/pet-shop-boys-neil-tennant-has-coronavirus-jab-b919492.html

Headline: Pet Shop Boys’ Neil Tennant reveals he has had coronavirus jab
Hope he makes it to those rescheduled tour dates. I was thinking of booking a ticket for the gig in Cork (the only PSB tour date in Ireland) – think I’ll wait for the moment.

413264 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Ewan Duffy, 2, #310 of 1392 🔗

I got tickets for Christmas to go see Erasure in October in Dublin. Finding it hard to believe it will sill be going ahead, can only hope!

413271 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Ewan Duffy, 2, #311 of 1392 🔗

That could be tricky if Chris Lowe won’t have it, could be the pet shop boy singing acapella

413280 ▶▶ alw, replying to Ewan Duffy, 6, #312 of 1392 🔗

Elton John has had too. Seriously did the government think that anyone listens to these people? Certainly wouldn’t want any of them to be my role model.

413292 ▶▶▶ danny, replying to alw, 11, #313 of 1392 🔗

Waiting to see if Keith Richards goes for it, or will he draw the line at this drug and say “no thanks, too risky, man”.

413296 ▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to danny, 5, #314 of 1392 🔗

KR died about 40 years ago but nobody told him.

413310 ▶▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to danny, 7, #315 of 1392 🔗

If he goes, we all go.

413563 ▶▶▶▶▶ TyRade, replying to Fiona Walker, 1, #316 of 1392 🔗

Biden’s looking well

413363 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to danny, 10, #317 of 1392 🔗

They could inject him with Pfizer, Moderna, Oxford, Novovax and Sputnik3 all together and he would go clubbing afterwards.

413393 ▶▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 4, #318 of 1392 🔗

Noticed he was the only one mask-less in a recent picture of the geriatric rockers. Don’t do drugs!

413404 ▶▶▶ FiatLux, replying to alw, #319 of 1392 🔗

It’ll be all right for Reg, as long as the stuff has no deleterious effect on transplanted barnets.

413893 ▶▶▶ Woden, replying to alw, #320 of 1392 🔗

And Macca, appearing in the Sun , of all rags!

413440 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Ewan Duffy, 2, #321 of 1392 🔗

No gigs will happen this year. I would love to be wrong, but…

413784 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Sam Vimes, #322 of 1392 🔗

The best we can hope for is some gigs with limited audience numbers, as there were around August to October last year – like my visit to the Vortex Jazz Club, audience of 20 in a venue of normal capacity 80.

413786 ▶▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Edward, 1, #323 of 1392 🔗

No atmosphere, no sense of communion, everybody masked (condition of entry)… naah, I’ll skip it thanks.

413258 l835, 12, #324 of 1392 🔗

So what’s it going to take to wake the sheeple up? Sceptics setting themselves alight on street corners like Buddhist monks in Vietnam?

413259 this is my username, 19, #325 of 1392 🔗

“A whistleblower at a Courtice retirement home says management removed the door handles on rooms of COVID-19 positive residents, “trapping” them in their suites for days in a bid to halt the spread of the deadly virus.

The employee, who wished to remain anonymous, tells CityNews that a manager at the White Cliffe Terrace Retirement Residence ordered maintenance staff to remove door handles on some fourth-floor assisted living suites last week.

The employee claims it was done to prevent COVID-19 positive residents from freely moving around the facility.

“It’s disgusting,” the staffer told CityNews. “There is no excuse to remove (the handles), in essence trapping someone in a room for any reason.”

The whistleblower alleges the handles were off the doors for several days until a head office employee discovered it and complained.

The manager who ordered them removed was placed on leave on Monday, the whistleblower added.”

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2021/02/12/courtice-retirement-home-door-handles-removed/

413260 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 69, #326 of 1392 🔗

An Irish doctor with a conscience.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/covid-vaccine-celbridge-doctor-liveline-19820331

A north Kildare GP has been slammed (I think he means criticised) for (?) after he revealed that he is refusing to administer COVID-19 vaccines to patients.
Dr Gerard Waters, of Whitethorn Clinic in Celbridge,is also refusing to refer patients for coronavirus tests as he disagrees with how the Covid virus has been handled by authorities.
“I’m a conscientious objector,” he said in a statement to RTE’s Liveline.
“I will not be administering the vaccine. I do not refer people for COVID tests.
“I will not put anything into someone else’s arm that I would not put into my own arm as a doctor.

413275 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Basileus, 21, #327 of 1392 🔗

Wow that’s is excellent and so brave of him. We need more medics speaking out like this.

413307 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Basileus, 15, #328 of 1392 🔗

another one of the few great men. another one of the few who can be certain that he would have hidden the Jews in his attic rather than gone with the machine that processed them through the death camps.

413385 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Basileus, 5, #329 of 1392 🔗

Fair dues to him. I lived in Celbridge until I moved to my present house in Dublin 3 years ago.

413547 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Basileus, 3, #330 of 1392 🔗

This 2018 EU report summarises the results of a survey of EU GPs to gauge their attitudes to the use of vaccines. We must bear in mind that this info was compiled before these experimental vaccines were being rolled out so GPs would have been commenting from a position of practical knowledge and experience.

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/health/files/vaccination/docs/2018_vaccine_confidence_en.pdf

A number of conclusions are notable:

(page 18) when responding to whether they thought vaccines in general were safe, 89.9% of UK GPs answered in the affirmative.

(page 17) when asked if they thought the seasonal flu vaccine was safe, 85.4% answered in the affirmative.

So presumably it’s fair to presume that more than 1 in 10 UK GPs (more likely 1 in 5 or more) do not trust the experimental covid vaccines but I haven’t heard them shouting about it.

413261 Bart Simpson, replying to Bart Simpson, 29, #331 of 1392 🔗

That article by Dr Alberto Giubilini is spot on.

One of the most depressing even offensive phenomenon of this whole shit show is the use and abuse of WW2 analogies and that overuse of the phrase “We’re all in this together.” I’m sure we here in LS have noticed that the worst offenders when it comes to using both are the lockdownistas smug in their lovely homes & areas, on fully pay or sitting on top of huge savings & pension schemes?

As Sir Charles Brady has pointed out over the last few days, even months lockdown is easy if you can afford it. But not for those who can’t afford it either financially or mentally or heaven forbid even both.

This is a message we should ram home to counter the dominant narrative – NO, WE ARE NOT IN THIS TOGETHER!!!

Anyone who still thinks this needs to get their eyes and brain tested.

413360 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Bart Simpson, 15, #332 of 1392 🔗

Somebody who is on full school pay, but hasn’t worked in months, said to my wife the other day ” ooh, I don’t know what I’d think of lockdowns, if I had financial worries too”. Somehow, it had only just crossed his mind, that there was another side to the story.

413437 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to PoshPanic, 7, #333 of 1392 🔗

Seems to me like the penny is dropping.

If only people I know do start to wake up…….

413569 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to PoshPanic, 6, #334 of 1392 🔗

A few days ago I heard some TV presenter (I can’t remember who it was) actually say, when talking to someone about the impact of lockdown, “Well we are all suffering the same so we can all understand the impact it has”. Now maybe I was being overly sensitive to what he was trying to say but it came across as being a particularly crass and ignorant thing to say.

413716 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to PoshPanic, 2, #335 of 1392 🔗

Proves the point if anything – ie that most people seem to have no conception of what it’s like to be in someone else’s shoes financially. I’ll freely admit to no conception of what it’s like to be in the financial shoes of someone with more than 2 children (as they chose it at some level or other). But I’d like to think I can understand/empathise with any other financial position – even if it’s not one I’ve been in personally. Surely he must know there’s loads of people getting lower or no income – because lots of jobs don’t do that one way or another?

413699 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #336 of 1392 🔗

Most people here will know this but we are not all in this together. People who can work from home are all right, others are not. Also people are not encouraged to be “together” but to see others as purveyors of deadly pathogens.

413268 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Basileus, 17, #338 of 1392 🔗

Me too. It was great to see the young ones enjoying themselves.

413294 ▶▶ straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to Basileus, 12, #339 of 1392 🔗

The police are outnumbered, full stop.

413318 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, 7, #340 of 1392 🔗

Their leadership are guilty of CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY and will be held to account.

They MUST receive long prison sentences. Anyone who is a soft liberal is an enemy of justice.

413403 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to FedupofLies, 4, #341 of 1392 🔗

I’ve been saying for 20yrs, ‘Liberals are the greatest threat to all life on earth’ . Because of their denial of natural process! Covid19 is just another example of their ignorance of nature.

413474 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #342 of 1392 🔗

Liberal means leave it to nature.

414061 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Bungle, #343 of 1392 🔗

Tell the liberals that, don’t think they know.

413416 ▶▶ mj, replying to Basileus, 10, #344 of 1392 🔗

usual BBC bias and spin with quotations from “health chiefs”

“Health chiefs on Tyneside said large numbers of people socialising in close proximity heightened the risk of transmitting coronavirus and warned an increase in patients attending hospital with sledging injuries was putting extra strain on departments at a “critical time”.

“Burdening our NHS with avoidable injuries at a time when we are already struggling with a pandemic is not acceptable,” said Bas Sen, director of emergency care at Newcastle Hospitals Foundation Trust.

people outside heightened the risk of transmission? They are in more danger of catching covid if they have to attend hospital.
Avoidable injuries? yes – dont do DIY, dont walk, dont drive, dont eat (choking is dangerous) – as these are all causing avoidable injuries.
And are they really struggling with a pandemic. All the evidence indicates not.

413473 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to Basileus, 7, #345 of 1392 🔗

Everyone, please remember, you are OK if you have a valid reason. Mine is that I have a mental health issue!!!

413269 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 6, #346 of 1392 🔗

Bad news for UK.The Astra vaccine no effect South African strain see below.The last phrase “undetermined for severe cases” is probably just a fig leaf. South Africa has had a spectacular decrease of cases and deaths. Only fools would think this variant is only in SA. This variant is competing with all others around the globe and we don’t know where as 99.9 % of all strains are not sequenced .This sophisticated investigation is only done in Western countries.

Can anyone think that we can shelter from this strain or shall we quarantine the Eastern European truck drivers and live on turnips?

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.10.21251247v1.full.pdf

Safety and efficacy of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) Covid-19 vaccine against the B.1.351 variant in South Africa
A two-dose regimen ofChAdOx1-nCoV19did not show protection against mild-moderate Covid-19 due toB.1.351 variant, however, VE against severe Covid-19is undetermined

413395 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to swedenborg, 1, #347 of 1392 🔗

Days after Boris said it would work.

The lies and spin is exhausting

413465 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to swedenborg, 5, #348 of 1392 🔗

The variants are mainly propaganda tools. The protection you really need is of the mind.

413272 Suzyv, #349 of 1392 🔗

What might really be going on right now.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6231120593001

413273 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 28, #350 of 1392 🔗

Press release

New vaccines stop transmission

Astra/Vauxhall announce their new vaccine stops transmission

A spokesman said ‘Our new vaccine comes as a result of research we have conducted over many decades. Our research has identified that there has not been a single case of Covid in the Turtle population

We have concluded therefore that there is something in Turtle DNA that prevents transmission. Our new vaccines contain computer modelled Turtle DNA

Our human trials are nearly completed and the results are excellent

There have been a small number of minor adverse reactions. Some participants reported a hardening of the soft tissues of the back and a tender underbelly

We did have one severe reaction when the participant crawled up a beach and dug a pit before returning to the sea. We believe however that this severe reaction was caused by a previously undisclosed condition

If you do not want the new vaccine our full range of Snake Oil is still available from most shops

(Spot the obvious untruth? Yeah, the shops are not open)

413321 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Cecil B, 4, #351 of 1392 🔗

Vaccine deaths will be easy to spot, they’ll have a mask stuck in their throat.

413278 isobar, replying to isobar, 16, #352 of 1392 🔗

COVID-19: Oxford vaccine to be tested on children as young as six in world-first trial
http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-oxford-vaccine-to-be-tested-on-children-as-young-as-six-in-world-first-trial-12216667

How on earth can a six year old give informed consent?

413289 ▶▶ danny, replying to isobar, 7, #353 of 1392 🔗

Presumably the consent given by parents will differ from the lack of consent needed to ban children from an education.

413282 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 17, #354 of 1392 🔗

Morning everyone. Sadly, missed all yesterday’s comments a) due to lack of internet at home and b) lengthy sceptics’ meeting yesterday. This may be nothing and it may be totally unconnected to the current shitshow but …

Yesterday I received a letter from my mortgage lender asking me to provide details on how I planned to pay off my mortgage (final date is ten years’ hence). The letter provided a questionnare which they wanted me to complete, together with documentary evidence of any monies/investments/pensions held elsewhere. I wasn’t too happy about this as I have always dealt properly with financial matters and as long as my mortgage is being paid off per the terms, what the hell is it to do with the bank what other assets I may or may not have (notwithstanding the issue of privacy). So, I decided to call them.

Apparently, this is standard procedure and I was told that this is done at various time-points (15, 10 & 5 years) which actually is not the case as they haven’t contacted me in the past. I asked what would happen if I didn’t complete the questionnarie and was told “we will send you another one” I asked what would happen if I didn’t return that. I was told “I don’t know, but we hold the mortgage after all” I said to the woman that that sounded like a threat to me. She got a bit flustered at this, saying I wasn’t being singled out. But it all looks a bit odd to me, especially as she would not tell me what non-compliance meant. I wonder if this is a pre-emptive strike by a banking sector that is potentially about to hit the rocks.

413284 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to kh1485, 6, #355 of 1392 🔗

Do you have an Interest Only mortgage KH? In which case it is not unusual for them to ask how you intend to pay of the capital sum at the end as it is something the regulator makes them check. If it’s a repayment mortgage then they don’t need to ask the question as the capital is being paid off as you go.

413295 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to vargas99, 6, #356 of 1392 🔗

It is, but I treat it as a repayment mortgage which they can clearly see. My concern was that a) they haven’t asked me for this information before (despite saying they have) and b) I am wary of a third party having access to other financial statements. The thing that really rattled me though was the fact that the woman couldn’t or wouldn’t tell me what the repercussions were of non-compliance.

413431 ▶▶▶▶ CGL, replying to kh1485, 1, #357 of 1392 🔗

We had an interest only mortgage and used to regularly get letters from the bank reminding us that we needed to make sure we could pay off the capital at the relevant time. It is normal – I would agree with vargas99 – I don’t think it’s anything to be concerned about.

413461 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to kh1485, 1, #358 of 1392 🔗

I had one of these, and I understand they want to be sure they get their money back. I’m not sure you are obliged to give information about the rest of your finances though.

413705 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to kh1485, 1, #359 of 1392 🔗

It does sound to me like they are just applying standard terms that come with any interest only mortgage and did so before Lockdown started. I gather a lot of people hadn’t bargained on how they were going to repay the capital part – even before Lockdown started – and were getting into trouble because of that. So I wouldnt take that personally and/or as a Lockdown thing. Don’t know if it’s possible to swop to a repayment mortgage? – as you say you are treating it that way anyway. I had my 25 year repayment mortgage (on my own – as a single) for about 14 years in the event – before I’d repaid all the capital early and that was that. But never had any letter in all that time unprompted and the only correspondence was me to them a. Changing mortgage holder one time b. Repaying extra capital several times until the final early repayment of capital and it was Mortgage Over early time.

413711 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to vargas99, #360 of 1392 🔗

We had one of these letters for an interest only mortgage a few years ago.

413287 ▶▶ l835, replying to kh1485, 7, #361 of 1392 🔗

Given the real state of the economy I expect the banks are very concerned about the forthcoming rise in unemployment and people defaulting.

413386 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to kh1485, 2, #362 of 1392 🔗

Of course it’s hitting the rocks. How many new businesses would have opened this year simply to put staff on furlough? Maybe the odd sanitiser seller. That will reduce massively the loans going out of commercial banks.

Negative interest rates in 3 to 6 months says it all.

413394 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to kh1485, 2, #363 of 1392 🔗

Have you researched agenda 21? Just asking.

You own nothing unless its in your hand.

413443 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #364 of 1392 🔗

Doing loads of research on that atm. I keep saying to anyone who will listen that the virus appears to be a Trojan Horse to effect huge societal/financial/cultural change. Such changes, that had they been put to the ballot, would not have seen the light of day.

413706 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #365 of 1392 🔗

Correction – I own everything that I own – unless they’ve got a death wish.

413402 ▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to kh1485, 4, #366 of 1392 🔗

KH it is normal. I got one from my bank about two months ago. Admittedly it worried me as I have no job but I filled the form in and sent it back. I have 15 years left on it so the timing sounds right to me. I really wouldn’t read too much into it. Just make up what they want to hear and then send it back. You’ve got enough on your plate at the moment to add this to the load!

413438 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Redundant Pilot, 1, #367 of 1392 🔗

Thanks, was just concerned that they wanted documentary evidence of other monies I may have. And I didn’t like the rather unpleasant comment from the bank functionary – when I suggested not replying – about them still having a charge on my home.

413452 ▶▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to kh1485, 1, #368 of 1392 🔗

Hmmmm, see mine only had a simple form and I just entered in where the money was coming from…which was I’d sell the house to pay it off. I didn’t have to show evidence, as how can you show evidence of selling the house in 15 years. Can you say something like that? Just that your plan is to sell the house in xxx years time to pay the mortgage off. Bugger the extra proof.

413489 ▶▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to kh1485, 1, #369 of 1392 🔗

I think that it is normal for banks to check up on the interest only mortgages from time to time, especially at a period when many businesses are collapsing.
In a way the bank is your ally in your never ending struggle with the Covid obsessed council . The bank would surely prefer you not to succumb to the presures in order to ensure that they continue to receive payments.
Perhaps you could suggest that their chief exec has a quiet world with his/her counterpart on the council to go easy on you . They are probably members of the same golf club or mason’s lodge..

413796 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Redundant Pilot, #370 of 1392 🔗

Yes, I think it’s normal. A relative of mine worked in mortgages and it has always been a requirement to specify how you’re going to repay the capital. Having said that, I suppose the financial institutions might be getting nervous about future defaults and checking up a bit more about ability to repay.

413291 wendyk, replying to wendyk, 15, #371 of 1392 🔗

A brief visit to the Post Office, where the unfailingly cheerful ,long suffering staff are battling to keep warm in this bitterly cold weather.

All heaters behind the counter are on, but they are obliged to keep the door open, as we are no longer allowed to pass through closed doors and apply the formerly accepted custom of holding the door for the next customer; it’s much too dangerous!

Ventilation is crucial, but exposing workers to extreme cold for many hours must take its toll on their well being.

Still, we’ve got to stop the spread and protect the NHS, so keep calm and carry on shivering.

413581 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to wendyk, 4, #372 of 1392 🔗

I was in that situation, and in the lucky financial position to temporarily not rely on my job, so when I was forced to work in 14C, having to wear my onw street coat while serving food, I quit. There were numerous reasons to quit, but this was one of it.

413301 LMS2, replying to LMS2, 12, #373 of 1392 🔗

https://www.bitchute.com/video/thgHE7VUsDrn/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Dangers+of+Covid-19+Vaccine&utm_campaign=2+12+21+Dangers+of+Covid-19+Vaccine
EXPLAINS HOW THE DEPOPULATION MRNA VACCINES WILL START WORKING IN 3-6 MONTHS
“Dr. Sherri Tenpenny gives VERY important information! Hyper-immune response in test animals for previous attempts at coronavirus vaccines, like SARS and MERS, has been a persistent problem. All is well for awhile, until the animals are exposed to the wild mutated virus. Dr. Tenpenny and other scientists have forecast that millions may die, and it will be blamed on a new strain of COVID, making an argument for even more deadly vaccines. See: “The Coming Genocide of Adverse COVID Vax Reactions, and Who to Blame for It””

413536 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to LMS2, 3, #374 of 1392 🔗

The second in two days to support the hypothesis that the mid to long term effects of the treatment currently administered could be potentially far more deadly if it were to meet another Coronavirus in the future.

413312 FedupofLies, replying to FedupofLies, 15, #375 of 1392 🔗

Child experimentation for a totally unnecessary vaccine takes place:

Oxford vaccine to be tested on children as young as six in world-first trial (msn.com)

Remember their filthy names: Andrew Pollard

Guilty for crimes against humanity. DEATH SENTENCE!

https://www.idonotcomply.org/events-1/worldwide-day-of-protest

413316 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to FedupofLies, 5, #376 of 1392 🔗

What kind of parents will sacrifice their child(ren) for this?

413332 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to TheClone, 12, #377 of 1392 🔗

The same kind of sick devils who unquestioningly force them into masks and do not think for a minute about their economic futures.

413503 ▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to TheClone, 1, #378 of 1392 🔗

Long answer: It’s the ultimate in virtue signalling. Just imagine the “kudos” that will accrue when they proclaim it to their FaceAche echo chambers.
Short answer: “c**ts”.

413325 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to FedupofLies, 6, #379 of 1392 🔗

Children cannot give informed consent, which is needed to be part of a trial. This cannot happen without perpetrators breaking human rights law.

413352 ▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 10, #380 of 1392 🔗

Parents/guardians can give informed, as proxies. And older children will also be given opportunities to consent, along with parents.

But any parent doing has truly lost the plot.

413382 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Lindy, 2, #381 of 1392 🔗

It’s like this. For trials and money making schemes, it’s up to you. Your body your choice. We won’t force your child to take part.

Oh but later, it’s mandatory, no choice now. You’ve got to take it.

413337 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to FedupofLies, 12, #382 of 1392 🔗

My ghast is flabbered that an ethics committee would approve this based on the risk benefit, ie children are not at a significant risk of suffering a serious Covid infection or of transmitting the virus.

Or maybe not I’m not surprised given the lack of critical thinking in members of these committees and the lack of independence from the NHS

(former member of an ethics committee)

413350 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Lindy, 3, #383 of 1392 🔗

All about money. Big Pharma money to the likes of the dirty criminal Pollard, and career safety for the NHS committees.

413718 ▶▶▶▶ ituex, replying to FedupofLies, -2, #384 of 1392 🔗

Andrew Pollard is very definitely NOT a criminal. We trained together, I know him. You may not like what he does but I know he is an honorable person.

413999 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to ituex, 2, #385 of 1392 🔗

Oh, that’s nice, do pass this message onto him that he is an utter cunt, would you? Thanks.

413378 ▶▶ stevie, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #386 of 1392 🔗

In the Daily Mail:

Oxford launches world’s first Covid vaccine trial for children – new study underway
Researchers will use 300 volunteers to assess whether the jab produces a strong immune response in children aged between six and 17.
The vaccine is one of three to have been approved for use in adults in the UK, along with those from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna.

Andrew Pollard, professor of paediatric infection and immunity, and chief investigator on the Oxford vaccine trial, said: “While most children are relatively unaffected by coronavirus and are unlikely to become unwell with the infection, it is important to establish the safety and immune response to the vaccine in children and young people as some children may benefit from vaccination.
“These new trials will extend our understanding of control of SARS-CoV2 to younger age groups.”
The first vaccinations of the trial will take place this month.
Up to 240 children will receive the vaccine and the others will have a control meningitis jab.
Earlier this week, England’s deputy chief medical officer said “several” trials were under way to develop coronavirus jabs for children.
Professor Jonathan Van-Tam told ITV News: “It is perfectly possible that we will have some licensed children’s vaccines for Covid-19 by the end of the year.”
The University of Oxford said their trial was the first in the 6-17 age group.
It said other trials had begun but only measuring efficacy in those aged 16 and 17.

413399 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to stevie, 4, #387 of 1392 🔗

This is disgraceful. What do they propose should happen to parents who refuse and children of parents who refuse? Parents in quarantine and children into care? Since the state has interposed itself into every human relationship, nothing would surprise me.

413445 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Bugle, 8, #388 of 1392 🔗

Their children will be taken away.

It started with ha ha stuff like gay wedding cakes and ended up with brainwashing kids into wanting to carve themselves another body at age ten.

These are a sick liberals. Identity Politics Totalitarian scum

413448 ▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to FedupofLies, 4, #389 of 1392 🔗

The parents who allow this probably don’t want to be grandparents, or potentially have a disabled grandchild. Thalidomide is a great drug, but not for pregnant women.

Allowing your child to be used for drug experimentation must come under child abuse.

413580 ▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Smelly Melly, 4, #390 of 1392 🔗

There is supposed to be a Minister for Children . She or he should surely stop this , unles they too are suborned by the cash from Oxford Vaccines and Gates.

413675 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #391 of 1392 🔗

These poor children will in all likelihood, be ward’s of the state!

413313 AidanR, replying to AidanR, 7, #392 of 1392 🔗

Stay Home > Save Lives > Protect us from the NHS

413331 ▶▶ neilhartley, replying to AidanR, 4, #393 of 1392 🔗

Stay Home > Die at Home > Protect the NHS

413368 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to neilhartley, 16, #394 of 1392 🔗

go out > get angry > burn down the NHS.

ONLY JOKING OFFICER!

Disclaimer This comment was satircal and meant to be sarcastic & in no way intended to incite violence or vandalism. Killing stuff is wrong, the NHS is already killing enough people as it is, it doesn’t need our help!

413447 ▶▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #395 of 1392 🔗

NHS is already killing enough people as it is, it doesn’t need our help!

Priceless hahahaha

413478 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to AidanR, #396 of 1392 🔗

Stay home and stop creating problems for us to deal with…

413315 BeBopRockSteady, 5, #397 of 1392 🔗

“A simple calculation assuming 5% of infections are hospitalised and of these hospital cases, if 25% are due to nosocomial infection, the complete prevention of nosocomial transmission would have led to approximately 1% impact on the number of infections in the English epidemic”

I love how they are forced to downplay the epidemic when it suits them.

413323 Bella Donna, #399 of 1392 🔗

I saw this comment in UKColumn. Its scary if this is true and I cert\inly would not have this done!

413326 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 34, #400 of 1392 🔗

All this fucking clap trap rubbish about people loving lockdown, the vast majority of people in this country are totally sick to the back teeth of it,any silly twat that believes polls and MSM tripe is basically retarded.. The only thing holding this back now is the cold weather once it turns it will be showtime people will go ape shit.. the majority of people want there lives and freedoms back only a small minority who don’t deserve to breathe want it to continue.. This shit show is coming to an end the next few months will confirm my comment.. ignore the blatant MSM propaganda..

413351 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 11, #401 of 1392 🔗

I really hope you are right Bruce and I get the impression of a widespread wearying of the repression among clients of mine. I don’t believe the polls either for whatever reason…probably poor sampling and virtue signalling.

Its time for more of those Covid Marshall cars to be on bricks!

413354 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Boris Bullshit, 8, #402 of 1392 🔗

It’s still on bricks as I write this comment, will be a while before the fucker is on the road again..

413444 ▶▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 2, #403 of 1392 🔗

Brilliant !

413573 ▶▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 4, #404 of 1392 🔗

It could bcome a local landmark. LS sceptics queuing up to take selfies beside it .Put it on Youtube
Send a photo of it to the Council with the message “This is just the start”.

413764 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bruce Reynolds, #405 of 1392 🔗

I salute you.

413392 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 3, #406 of 1392 🔗

Yay!

413435 ▶▶ CGL, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 1, #407 of 1392 🔗

I think you must be in the North? Down here in middle-class land they’re still lapping it all up – believe me, it’s as great now as it was last March for some of them, especially if they can rat on their neighbours – they bloody love it.

413497 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to CGL, 2, #408 of 1392 🔗

It’s clown town down ere innit

413548 ▶▶▶▶ CGL, replying to Two-Six, #409 of 1392 🔗

If only it were funny!

413600 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to CGL, 4, #410 of 1392 🔗

The few that are enjoying it will hopefully be obliterated when the economic shit Storm hits home,make a note of the neighbors who rat and put their front window in that will cure the problem..

413330 BeBopRockSteady, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 7, #411 of 1392 🔗

This is frighteningly candid. You’ll either take the jab or be moved to the basement so you can socially distance from your work colleagues or just outright sacked.

https://www.cipd.co.uk/knowledge/fundamentals/emp-law/health-safety/preparing-for-covid-19-vaccination#gref

If you are a line manager, you’ll be called out very early and if you refuse to spread the marketing.. ..prepare to be disciplined.

413391 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #412 of 1392 🔗

!

413560 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #413 of 1392 🔗

I started to skim through it, but as I just had breakfast I decided to stop.

413333 Boris Bullshit, replying to Boris Bullshit, 62, #414 of 1392 🔗

Just been for a very (minus 3C) chilly walk over the river Severn to go to the Bakery at Broseley. The girl in there is always very friendly and I get the impression its a relief for her to finally see a face compared to the ugly maskoids she has in the shop.

The shop allows 2 people in but when I am in nobody from the queue of masked zombies outside will join me in there as I am unmasked. I then have to pass them all as I come out. Its dirty looks all round from them but I give them all a beaming smile just to remind them all how moronic and repressed they are.

Outside in the village everyone is a masked zombie…even those just out walking their dogs. I make a point of talking to the dogs and ignoring the human owner. Of course they all shrink back in horror as I get close whilst the lovely dogs are always friendly.

Its a strange feeling to loathe your own species and relate more to dogs but thats how it now is.

413343 ▶▶ MFvH, replying to Boris Bullshit, 7, #415 of 1392 🔗

It is not that bad here. Most people outside still don’t wear masks

413356 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to MFvH, 10, #416 of 1392 🔗

Broseley does seem particularly bad I agree…its always the same. Its definitely the sort of place where you could imagine getting lynched one day if the terror is jacked up further. Fortunately I am bigger and fitter than almost all of them and would not take it lying down lol.

413344 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Boris Bullshit, 5, #417 of 1392 🔗

They are all cunts around here. I always found English people awkward anyway. Now I just ignore them all.

I will kill myself if I cannot leave this cUntry ever. Indeed, I will take the vaccine to leave if I have to. Move to France, a country with some courage besides.

413389 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #418 of 1392 🔗

Masking 6 year olds?

413555 ▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Bugle, 6, #419 of 1392 🔗

Yes, R4 from our own correspondent had a report from Paris. “schools are back to normal” Really??

Having to wear masks all day is f…ing normal?!?!?!?!

413353 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Boris Bullshit, 23, #420 of 1392 🔗

It’s the same here. Seen just one unmasked person this morning. One bloke, despite there being room for both of us on the pavement, effected a theatrical manoevre into the road. I don’t give a shit any more so I said “yes, that’s it, make way for my disease-ridden body”.

413365 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to kh1485, 22, #421 of 1392 🔗

Brilliant…its time to call these scumbags out. I never thought I would feel like a leper in my home country. The irony is I am healthier and fitter than any of them…Ironbridge to Broseley and back up and down hills is not for the faint hearted! Many of them are obese which shows how much they care about their own health.

I just let them run away from me now and if they get mowed over or fall into the canal thats their problem.

413807 ▶▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Boris Bullshit, 1, #422 of 1392 🔗

Ironbridge to Broseley! Brings back memories of my visit to that area in 2012. I sometimes check if my memory is still working by listing the 10 museums in the Ironbridge Gorge area – won’t repeat it here but Broseley Pipe Works (as in clay pipes for smoking) is one of the more outlying ones.

414560 ▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to kh1485, #423 of 1392 🔗

Perhaps you should swing a bell and proclaim loudly „unclean , unclean“??

413564 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Boris Bullshit, 2, #424 of 1392 🔗

It’s equally bad where I am / Bexley. Hardly anyone unmuzzled. I think the cold weather is partly to blame too, as the face nappies protect from the wind presumably… It’s a pathetic freak show out there.

413775 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Pebbles, 1, #425 of 1392 🔗

Thats probably true its bloody freezing! Mind you I did see one young woman in a short skirt and bare legs and a muzzle on! So I dont think the cold winds can be a factor in her case.

413993 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Boris Bullshit, 3, #426 of 1392 🔗

At the vet’s, the vets and owners are muzzled, but the dogs aren’t.
Says it all,

413335 MFvH, 1, #427 of 1392 🔗

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-Ngtmx0jA
I watched some of the Covid Symposium plan B yesterday (live from New Zealand). Interesting talks, I did not agree with all of it.
Also good to hear the international perspective, especially from New Zealand who have locked themselves in!

413345 Anti_socialist, 9, #428 of 1392 🔗

Up to 40% of first wave

What is a wave?

wave wāv

  • intransitive verb ; To move freely back and forth or up and down in the air, as branches in the wind.
  • intransitive verb ; To make a signal with an up-and-down or back-and-forth movement of the hand or an object held in the hand.
  • intransitive verb ; To have an undulating or wavy form; curve or curl.

Oddly I can find no reference to the ecology of viruses pre-2020 using the term WAVE. Could this be because the term seasonal isn’t as hyperbolic & fearful as WAVE? No indeed it was invented by sage a group of accomplished “scientists” wait for it, in the art of manipulation, yes psychologists & statisticians (are we calling these science now). Imagine my surprise to see LS adopt the same fear mongering terminology in its headline.

I glanced to the left, yep guess who edited today’s issue none other than LS’s resident closet covidian. Jonathon Barr. I decided to skip today’s covert propaganda & jump straight to the comments section for how ever long that lasts before being infiltrated by covid worshippers.

413347 Julian, replying to Julian, 7, #429 of 1392 🔗

Arguably a worthy cause:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/back-to-normal-campaign-funding?qid=eb5e7673bf93289028fde30eba826a89

The goal of Back to Normal is to deliver 1 million leaflets to the public outlining an alternative approach to Covid-19. We wish to counter Government policy by:

Putting our case to those who only get their news from the TV.
Convincing anyone who already has their doubts about the Government message.
Encouraging sceptics to speak out who might otherwise be “shamed” into silence.

We have produced a website and free leaflet which can double as a window or car sticker and is easy to post door-to-door or hand out in the street (when not in lockdown). This is something every lockdown sceptic can do. Become a postie! All donations will be appreciated and acknowledged. All money raised is being spent on postcards (our only expense) .

Financial summary at 13 Feb 2021. Initially through other channels we raised £5000 and now, through GoFundMe, we have raised another £6400. The postcards cost between 3p and 3.5p each inc p&p. We have bought and distributed 350,000 postcards so far. Since our goal is to distribute 1 million postcards in total, we need to raise roughly £20,000 more as we go along.

413409 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Julian, 4, #430 of 1392 🔗

Hello. But the narrative will shift to vaccines. That is their important goal.

There is no mention of pressure/mandatory vaccines as well as the fact that information about these unnecessary and potentially dangerous treatments is being suppressed.

It was ALWAYS about the vaccines, and a few other things.

413349 maggie may, replying to maggie may, 50, #431 of 1392 🔗

This is what really gets me about the vaccine passport nonsense. One of my reasons for not having the vaccine is despite my age (70) I prefer to trust my immune system. I don’t have any other illnesses, i am fit (do my 10,000 steps most days), eat well, sleep well, no great stress (fortunately) except what is produced by hancock etc, don’t smoke, drink within recommended limits. But i am going to be penalised and unable to travel abroad (which isn’t a disaster) but more to the point possibly unable to meet friends for a coffee or meal, go to the cinema, go and watch cricket. Seems it’s not worth trying to look after yourself any more!

413369 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to maggie may, 17, #432 of 1392 🔗

https://www.cipd.co.uk/knowledge/fundamentals/emp-law/health-safety/preparing-for-covid-19-vaccination#gref

I posted this already but its worse than just travel. The segregating of society into those allowed out of lockdown and those forced to stay at home is under way.

If you are vaccine hesitant or not, to not stand up to this is a disgrace. It only leads to the end of freedom.

413420 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 20, #433 of 1392 🔗

No one has forced me to stay at home since April 2020 and no one will succeed in doing that anytime soon . I am out everyday , drive as far as Brighton and Brum and Surrey from London to see friends and work a bit too . I don’t give a Flying fuck what they TELL us we can or can’t do

413451 ▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Harry Chara, 5, #434 of 1392 🔗

Good!

413439 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 7, #435 of 1392 🔗

George Osborne said the public will demand health passports. Clearly the plan is to programme the compliant majority to resent and bully the refuseniks.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/george-osborne-to-lead-a-normal-life-youll-need-a-covid-passport-heres-why/ar-BB1dwVYv?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ

413373 ▶▶ Janette, replying to maggie may, 8, #436 of 1392 🔗

Yes I think we are all starting to feel like that Maggie. There is no end to this shite show but on the positive side I do think people are starting to wake up and surely Bojo and co must be starting to crack?

413422 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Janette, 3, #438 of 1392 🔗

It will end to all intents and purposes at some point have hope

413411 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to maggie may, 2, #439 of 1392 🔗

Yes you should have just eaten all the pies and become obese and then had the snake oil gene therapy. You would now be a picture of health!

413417 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to maggie may, 9, #440 of 1392 🔗

Pulll yourself out of that mind funk . They are threatening us with NO Travel , pubs , food etc but it won’t last . many business’ / individuals will cry out for the Money so will allow non Vaxx peeps to do what we all used to do I am sure .

Domestic Vacatiosn for us this summer . I miss going abroad but will not partake in their stupid games . Maybe 2022 lol

413425 ▶▶▶ maggie may, replying to Harry Chara, 2, #441 of 1392 🔗

Actually Harry, that is what i have hoped all along, that this will become just another flu like winter illness which we all learn to live with and travel restrictions will be unnecessary (unless they want to impose them for absolutely every illness) Just that things are looking particularly bleak at themoment!

413553 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to maggie may, 4, #442 of 1392 🔗

Be aware of making this two-tier society a done deal and if it was written in stone. It isn’t at all. It’s another layer of coercion to increase uptake of vaccine before they can actually tackle the mandatory vaccine shit rule legally. That’s not going to be so easy as it sounds. Time to get active again and start writing Human Rights Lawyers personally, MPs, directly approaching medical correspondents and journals, your GP surgery. It’s about making it known that it is unacceptable to counter the bullshit mainstream media narrative.
Yesterday I read somewhere about the Dengue vaccination the WHO rolled out in 2016 in the Philippines and pushed and coerced people into it. 18 months in the results were so disastrous that they stopped the vaccinations and now people in charge are facing Criminal Courts. I’ll find the links and will post, but this is hopefully what will happen here – they will hang in the end.

413572 ▶▶▶ BTLnewbie, replying to Pebbles, 2, #443 of 1392 🔗

Hi Pebbles,
I think this is what you’re after – I posted the link yesterday:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/04/dengue-vaccine-fiasco-leads-criminal-charges-researcher-philippines

413811 ▶▶ Edward, replying to maggie may, #444 of 1392 🔗

Agreed, I’m a few years younger than you but in a similar situation.

414284 ▶▶ Derek Toyne, replying to maggie may, 1, #445 of 1392 🔗

I agree with what you say those who love lockdown can’t think for themselves or have a clue how to look after themselves. Their would rather have a vaccine than look after their health while I have no problem with vaccines I just know from experience our own immunity will protect most people. So get vaccinated if you want but don’t force those who want to look after themselves.

413358 CGL, replying to CGL, 50, #446 of 1392 🔗

I am always quite a stressed sort of person, but I have never felt so much anger and hate as I do now. People keep saying that these things only destroy those who feel them – I have no idea how to feel any different. Every time I think about everyone I ever knew before this, I grieve for the friendships that I can’t see carrying on now. I can never look at any of them the same again, or contemplate having any meaningful conversation – just the banalities. We clearly had nothing in common whatsoever. That is a lot of grief.

413571 ▶▶ HelenaHancart, replying to CGL, 17, #447 of 1392 🔗

So true! It feels like all our lives, that seemed to be complete and whole, have been thrown up in the air, and smashed down into millions of tiny fragments, impossible to put back together again. We’ll have accept that we are going to have to build new, stronger lives for ourselves.

413851 ▶▶ Steve F, replying to CGL, 12, #448 of 1392 🔗

I absolutely agree with you. This extends even to family members. I will try to avoid the repeat of one shameful (and uncharacteristic) loss of temper a few months ago but I’m not entirely sure I can keep a lid on it, if provoked, so I’ll just become even more misanthropic than I already am. The saddest thing is that people I thought were intelligent, decent human beings, plainly were not. Perhaps I only saw what I wanted to see and now I see things as they really are. This has been a very painful awakening.

413362 RickH, replying to RickH, 6, #449 of 1392 🔗

It gets tedious stating the obvious – but again we have a lead item that just repeats the terms ‘infections’ and ‘cases’ without qualification.

Nosocomial transmission is, of course, a vital issue. But it isn’t helped by this lack of definition.

413408 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to RickH, 4, #450 of 1392 🔗

It is tedious but we need to keep saying it…much of the battle is in the language.

413364 BeBopRockSteady, 8, #451 of 1392 🔗

On that Gibraltar article in says 97% of people had received the vaccine. Only 6 of the 44 deaths were vaccinated. There seems to be a discrepancy of sorts there.

Who are they vaccinating then? For it doesn’t seem like the most vulnerable given around 85% of deaths with Covid are those that didn’t receive the vaccine?

The Gibraltar Government seem trapped in their own shaky defence. They’ll need to find a new variant to explain it.

413371 Mark, replying to Mark, 32, #452 of 1392 🔗

there is some optimism that the rapid rollout of the vaccine, assuming it leads to the easing of restrictions. will cause a recovery driven by a surge of activity and spending

This is just an irritating way of putting it. If there is a reopening of the economy it will not be because of the vaccine rollout, but because the government chooses to stop inflicting further harm on the nation by locking down. Most of the resistance to covid in the country is undoubtedly by now due to past infection or underlying immunity anyway.

At best you could say that, like a child given a rabbit’s foot for a feeling of protection, the vaccine rollout gives the panickers courage to face the world again.

Presumably there will be an economic rebound of some sort, as activities reopen, whether from government relaxation or general disobedience. It may not last long, given the underlying damage done by lockdown, the catastrophically huge costs incurred and the literally mind-boggling inefficiencies introduced into the global economy and most societies by covid nonsense, much of it doubtless ongoing despite any reopening. But inevitably while it lasts we will be massively propagandised with “see, the doom predicters were wrong” messages.

The government’s plan presumably is to try to ride the rapids of opinion by being enough behind the curve of public opinion in reopening that, if anything goes wrong, it can blame others and say “we warned you”, while avoiding the disaster (for the politicians, medical industries and authoritarians) of losing control and credibility completely.

Anyone who recognises the utter, near unprecedented scale of the disaster caused by lockdowns should be desperately hoping they do not manage it. As it stands, lockdowns and full medicalisation of societally minor respiratory diseases are now baked into the culture forever. If we are to have any hope of avoiding that future of paranoid fearful medico-fascism, it’s vital that the government does not establish a belief that “we were saved by being locked down until the vaccine was available to save us”.

This is why the vaccines are bad news,regardless of any potential harmful effects from them.

413493 ▶▶ CGL, replying to Mark, 5, #453 of 1392 🔗

“At best you could say that, like a child given a rabbit’s foot for a feeling of protection, the vaccine rollout gives the panickers courage to face the world again.”

I thought that was what the muzzles were for last July?

413510 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to CGL, 3, #454 of 1392 🔗

If only the government funded Gypsies properly, they could roll out lucky heather to most of the UK population pretty quickly I should imagine. Let’s see, £5 for every bunch, that buy a lot of nice caravans and Ford transits.

They would be more than happy to mobilise themselves into helping the community.

This government really are incompetent, this is school boy stuff here. I despair!

413539 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to CGL, 2, #455 of 1392 🔗

If one rabbit’s foot works, why wouldn’t two be even better?

413544 ▶▶▶▶ stevie, replying to Mark, 1, #456 of 1392 🔗

Not for the rabbit

413554 ▶▶▶▶▶ CGL, replying to stevie, #457 of 1392 🔗

Trudat!

413688 ▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to stevie, 1, #458 of 1392 🔗

I’m guessing the rabbit’s long past caring….

413372 James Leary #KBF, replying to James Leary #KBF, 5, #459 of 1392 🔗

Torygraph:

We treat the flu with paracetamol. Too cheap for SAGE and it’s cronies.

“Britain has already approved two drugs, dexamethasone and tocilizumab – which together can lower the risk of death in the most ill patients by around 40 per cent – following UK trials.
“I hope that Covid-19 will become a treatable disease by the end of the year,” Mr Hancock told The Telegraph, saying new treatments will be important in “turning Covid from a pandemic that affects all of our lives into another illness that we have to live with, like we do flu. That’s where we need to get Covid to over the months to come”.

413381 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to James Leary #KBF, 14, #460 of 1392 🔗

Covid-19 will become a treatable disease by the end of the year,

Covid always was and always will be a respiratory illness similar to the flu. Strong immune systems will protect against infections

Viruses mutate and you cannot stop a virus

Sadly all these clever virologists and the medically trained people all forgot virus 101

413384 ▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to James Leary #KBF, 7, #461 of 1392 🔗

Already cracked it:

‘… clinical trial using a cheap asthma inhaler to prevent COVID-19 patients developing severe symptoms has produced “incredible” results.’

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/over-the-counter-inhalers-suppress-severe-covid-symptoms-trial-finds-20210210-p5716m.html

So it will take years for NHS England to get the hang of it, as currently structured……

413726 ▶▶▶ ituex, replying to Tim Bidie, 1, #462 of 1392 🔗

Budesonide, 90% reduction in hospitalization. But you need to give it early and NHS tells people to stay at home until they are getting too bad to get any benefit from this.

413374 End of Tether, replying to End of Tether, 7, #463 of 1392 🔗

Watching the test cricket on TV in India. Such a joy to hear a crowd there. How is India able to do this and we can’t?

413376 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to End of Tether, 20, #464 of 1392 🔗

Because a bunch of Psychos in SAGE are running our country via Bill Gates and others

413414 ▶▶▶ merlin, replying to Harry Chara, 3, #465 of 1392 🔗

They have plenty of public health psychos as well it’s just that they already have a massive slave class who work for next to nothing and don’t do package holidays.

413458 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Harry Chara, #466 of 1392 🔗

No. The Tory government is running the country. Blame – like credit – where it’s due.

413480 ▶▶▶▶ Mayo, replying to RickH, 2, #467 of 1392 🔗

Yes – let’s replace them now with Labour’s Zero Covid fanatics.

The Tories are terrified that a surge in cases will overwhelm the NHS. They fear that will damage the party far more than an economic slump.

If the polls are a true reflection of public opinion – they are spot on in their thinking.

413485 ▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Mayo, 2, #468 of 1392 🔗

And who’s to blame for that delusional public opinion?

413482 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to RickH, 8, #469 of 1392 🔗

But of course when the “Conservatives” are rightly blamed for the decisions they were elected to take and got so profoundly wrong, it’s vital to remember also that the Labour “opposition” were worse, on the coronapanic and on the lockdown outrage.

Otherwise Labour lockdown fanatics will wrongfully benefit from their complicity with the panic and lockdown.

And it’s also absolutely correct to point out the psychopathically manipulative behaviour of SAGE, and of the mainstream media and of big tech in this.

413379 ▶▶ James Leary #KBF, replying to End of Tether, 1, #470 of 1392 🔗

Better sound effects.

413388 ▶▶ Tim Bidie, replying to End of Tether, 3, #471 of 1392 🔗

Complete shot in the dark…….something to do with NHS England senior management/SAGE/Government strategic direction……?

413397 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Tim Bidie, 14, #472 of 1392 🔗

They can’t afford our type of total lockdown so they are just letting it do its thing and the results will be the same as if they had followed our idiotic path, or better maybe with fewer “variants” and quicker herd immunity. The poorer countries will lead us out of this.

413407 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Tim Bidie, 4, #473 of 1392 🔗

They’re all complicit and have influence but to me it seems SAGE are the ones formulating Governement Policies . Not to say I am right of course lol

413430 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Harry Chara, #474 of 1392 🔗

If we’re not told, we’re entitled to speculate.

413595 ▶▶ Colin, replying to End of Tether, 5, #475 of 1392 🔗

In India, they realized within a few weeks after starting a strict lockdown that millions were going to starve to death very shortly. So they abandoned that idea pretty quickly. Surprise, surprise, some people got ill, some died, and the vast majority are doing fine. Plus the fact that Indians don’t put their parents in “care homes”…

413375 peyrole, 8, #476 of 1392 🔗

Comments on two of the ATL articles.
Sage paper stating up to 40% of infected from stays in hospital ( unstated 100% in care homes). As almost all deaths in hospitals and care homes, we can infer that almost all covid deaths were from infections caught in hospitals and care homes.
Imperial modelling being circular given R value outcome driving results. This is explained by ignoring the first assumption in the article, that the date on the Imperial paper must be wrong ( 2021 not 2020). No! We have other evidence that Imperial modelling was done months prior to the event supposedly modelled, for instance the modelling on ‘new strains’ was done in the summer of 2020. Accept the date is correct and all is explained.
Of course the Imperial modelling does not deal with the issue of hospital/care home infections, it makes assumes uniformity of infections across populations. It is GIGO.

413380 Bugle, replying to Bugle, 27, #477 of 1392 🔗

While Mrs Bugle went into Lidl this morning, I sat in the vehicle with the dog and listened to Radio 4. There was an interview between (I think Justin Webb) and a Professor Harnden who is advising the regime on the ‘vaccine’ programme. He seemed a pretty moderate guy.

The subject of getting the stuff to hard-to-reach groups was discussed, as was the high rate of take-up amongst care home residents and the not so high take up amongst care home staff. The professor gave the rate of take up amongst staff as 66% – ‘not high enough’. The interviewer started to push a question about mandatory vaccination at which the professor said that in this country we have never compelled people to be vaccinated and it was not a direction he wished to go in – or words to that effect. At this point the interviewer suddenly interrupted with questions about, ‘These people who work in care homes, they know the score, don’t they?’ and ‘couldn’t they get jobs somewhere else?’

My point? First of all the BBC can hardly contain its inner fascism. Secondly, the complete lack of empathy with care home staff. Third, care home staff cannot just get a job elsewhere, and even if they could, care homes cannot easily replace them.
Must say though, despite remaining very suspicious of the gene therapy, I found Professor Harnden’s liberal outlook acceptable. It just remains to be seen whether the PTB can suppress their inner fascists, or if refusers like myself are to be kept under restrictions and “ignored” as suggested by George Osborne.

413396 ▶▶ Ned of the Hills, replying to Bugle, 4, #478 of 1392 🔗

Masks are mandatory but not the jab. Which do these experts or anyone one think is more effective? The latter I would think.

So it is interesting how making vaccination is shied away from. Any simple explanation for that? I suppose it is because vaccination is seen as being possibly harmful – but mask wearing never is.

413418 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Ned of the Hills, 6, #479 of 1392 🔗

The data in the letter published by the UK Medical Freedom Alliance in Friday’s edition suggests that the vaccines are more dangerous than we think. Winter deaths in five vaccine counties spiked, whereas in the two non vaccine countries (Sweden and Jordan) they fell

413419 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Ned of the Hills, 3, #480 of 1392 🔗

I suppose it’s because the ‘vaccine’ is a medical intervention and subject to informed consent – so far, anyway.

413499 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Ned of the Hills, 19, #481 of 1392 🔗

I can take a mask off – the action is reversible.

Undoing a vaccination is impossible.

413535 ▶▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to rockoman, 4, #482 of 1392 🔗

Exactly!!

413454 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Bugle, 10, #483 of 1392 🔗

As said : on this one (compulsory vaccines) you’re either with Mengele or civilization. There’s no in-between.

413387 dhid, replying to dhid, 1, #484 of 1392 🔗

The following page from BCP (Bournemouth Christchurch Poole) Council website:

https://www.bcpcouncil.gov.uk/news-article.aspx?title=stay-local-explore-from-your-door

From that page the following, and much else, is complete and utter meaningless gobbledygook!

“On 1 February 2021, traffic flow in the Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole area was 35 per cent lower than the same time the previous year and 72 per cent higher than the first lockdown”

So, it was 35% lower than normal for the time of year (1st Feb) but 72% higher than (the whole of?) the first lockdown – March 16th/21st/23rd/26th/etc… (depending which member of the government you believe) to somewhen in June then…

Yeah right…..

What utter lying or incompetant fools these people – paid from the public purse – are.

413477 ▶▶ albert hall, replying to dhid, 1, #485 of 1392 🔗

And they take us for fools too.

413607 ▶▶▶ dhid, replying to albert hall, #486 of 1392 🔗

Indeed they do!

413390 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 16, #487 of 1392 🔗

How statistically improbable is it that there are zero deaths among 523,000 fully vaccinated Israelis as per the Stop Press of the Times of Israel (below the Gibraltar article)?

413412 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Londo Mollari, 5, #488 of 1392 🔗

IMPOSSIBLE I would say so statistically ZERO

413426 ▶▶ A Heretic, replying to Londo Mollari, 4, #489 of 1392 🔗

What they mean is 0 covid deaths. Of course we still have the usual bollocks that any death after a positive covid test is 100% caused by covid and any death post-vaccination is just sadly down to old age.

413494 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Londo Mollari, 2, #490 of 1392 🔗

Has our government owned up to any deaths following the vaccine in the 14000000 test subjects

413610 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to jonathan Palmer, 1, #491 of 1392 🔗

143 deaths up to the end of January. At least that is the number reported via the yellow card system. The true number is probably significantly higher.
,
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting#analysis-of-data

413401 A Heretic, replying to A Heretic, 19, #492 of 1392 🔗

Scenario 2: we have no restrictions whatsoever: everything is as it was before March 2020. Even those who favour a ‘herd immunity’ strategy would probably not see this favourably. Surely, if there is something that we could do to protect the vulnerable and that does not cause us much harm – such as wearing a mask when entering an indoor public space – we should do it. These kinds of limited restrictions seem proportionate.

Great, another quack that has decide to ignore 100 years of research showing that masks do nothing.
Muzzling the entire, healthy population is in no way proportionate to the risk.

413427 ▶▶ Hoppy Uniatz, replying to A Heretic, 13, #493 of 1392 🔗

“if there is something we could do to protect the vulnerable…such as wearing a mask when entering an indoor public space..”

Yeah because that’s worked so well in hospitals hasn’t it! LOL!

413519 ▶▶▶ FenTyger, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 2, #494 of 1392 🔗

Protect the vulnerable, don’t go to Hospital….. and whatever you do don’t send infected people to a care home. Who are the Granny (and Grandad) killers then?

413415 Anti_socialist, 3, #495 of 1392 🔗

There is a basic fundamental principle of life.

The old must go extinct, to make way for the new!

413428 Will, replying to Will, 18, #496 of 1392 🔗

Just got my invitation for the jab. Rejected it for a variety of reasons but, even if I trusted it enough to think if was worth the risk, quite why someone of my age and fitness should be a priority, even with a child with significant health issues, is a mystery.

413455 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Will, 15, #497 of 1392 🔗

The fact that people are being and will ever increasingly be pressured to take it, creates quite a strong moral case for refusing it in order to stand with the oppressed minority, imo. Combined with the importance of not giving in to the “lockdown until big pharma saves us” precedent, for me that overwhelms any argument that there is some duty to take it for the protection of others. Taking it for your own protection is contemptible, for most people.

413492 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Mark, 10, #498 of 1392 🔗

Totally agree. I have an autoimmune condition and personal reasons to refuse, but the charities for the condition came out in December, before the roll out, to say the vaccines were safe. What is going on there? It is meaningless when there was no data to back it up.

413963 ▶▶▶▶ Will, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #499 of 1392 🔗

I am amazed that 16 year olds with my daughter’s autoimmune condition have been cleared to be jabbed and that their parents are delighted for them to be thus experimented upon. I think they are bonkers myself.

413446 Poppy, replying to Poppy, 24, #500 of 1392 🔗

https://www.cipd.co.uk/knowledge/fundamentals/emp-law/health-safety/preparing-for-covid-19-vaccination#gref

‘However, those who avoid vaccination because they are planning a pregnancy may be able to use this to assert sex discrimination if they are then treated less favourably or are later dismissed due to this refusal.’

Doesn’t say how far in the future this planning has to be. I want a family with my bf 5-10 years down the line, so I am technically planning a pregnancy…

I shouldn’t have to find loopholes like this. The implication that one has to have a ‘justified’ reason to refuse vaccination is fatuous and revolting. Medical information has always been confidential and I should not have to justify a choice as to what goes into my own body to anyone, ever.

413460 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to Poppy, 6, #501 of 1392 🔗

“I don’t need it” is a good enough reason for most people.

Evidence to the contrary should be provided for consideration by anyone who tries to enforce vaccination on the masses.

413475 ▶▶ Hattie, replying to Poppy, 6, #502 of 1392 🔗

I have just emailed them to challenge them on their philosophy of supporting good work environments if they are in essence coercing people to have the vaccine by recommending different work practices, environment for those that are not vaccinated – let’s just make your work life unpleasant until you comply.

They also stated there is no evidence to say the vaccine is unsafe-so addressed this with a few facts.Unbelievable that an emergency approved drug, and one that its final trial is due in 2023 is being quoted as completely safe. Also referred them to the latest adverse reactions report and noted that they will be accepting companies being sued if a person is ‘forced’ to have a vaccine and suffers a debilitating reaction.
On another matter, is it worth lobbying MPs regarding reviewing the cv19 Bill, which is due in March. I note by the rhetoric from government about restrictions continuing through the year, that they obviously assume the power will continue to be theirs to do so. Appears to have gone very quiet about the 6 month revision date.

413568 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Hattie, 1, #503 of 1392 🔗

Your first paragraph: it’s just discrimination by the back door.

413611 ▶▶ CGL, replying to Poppy, 3, #504 of 1392 🔗

What a very private thing to have to disclose. So everyone will know someone is trying for a baby. Then what happens if it doesn’t go as planned – people will then assume there is a problem. Your whole life lived in a goldfish bowl with unwanted sympathy and possibly people avoiding you or the subject because they don’t want to say anything they shouldn’t.
People can’t live like that.

413453 Nobody2021, 9, #505 of 1392 🔗

Pandemic Logic (this one is my own assumption on the thinking)

Up to 40% of patients caught the virus in hospital

The solution – Lock down the population harder to reduce the chances of it getting into hospitals…

413456 mj, replying to mj, 4, #506 of 1392 🔗

Main headline in the Sun (i get it on a saturday for the weekly tv section – honest!!!)

“April the thirst” Pubs and Restaurants will be able to serve outdoors from 1st April if cases continue to fall.

Spaghetti trees and the islands of San Serif spring to mind. It’s just a bit early for a Canard d’avril isnt it?

413616 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to mj, 1, #507 of 1392 🔗

Spaghetti harvest was a classic early example of BBC de haut en bas punching down. Ha! ha! a good giggle at the ignorant peasants who don’t have expenses funded lunches at the local Italian like us. Another bottle of Chianti (in a straw covered bottle, remember them?) Mario per favore!

414162 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to mj, #508 of 1392 🔗

April can be bloody freezing…how is that good for health?

413459 frankfrankly, replying to frankfrankly, -9, #509 of 1392 🔗

I understand concerns re vaccination but the comments that LS cannot be seen as an ‘anti-vax’ site are right. The post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy applies to us as well as the Covid fanatics. The main point to focus on is do the “vaccines” confer immunity or not. If not, then they are effectively a medication. Aside from the moral principle of not forcing people, if no-one is actually immunised by this medical means then a covid passport to access services in one’s own country is meaningless. An international passport would operate like having a jab before going on one’s hols-not getting very sick and putting pressure on other countries’ hospitals would be something those nations would reasonably expect.

413469 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to frankfrankly, 11, #510 of 1392 🔗

I think allowing the govt to lock us down until a rushed vaccine is available is a terrible idea that sets a terrible precedent. There will be tears sooner or later –

413483 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to frankfrankly, 7, #511 of 1392 🔗

“The main point to focus on is do the “vaccines” confer immunity or not.”

IFR = 0.2% max. Ioannidis

Large swathes of the popeulation already have T-cell immunity.

Therefore if the ‘vaccines’ did confer immunity (they don’t), then any additional immunity would be extremely margunal.

Therefore, the main point to focus on is safety.

As for the load on other countries’ hospitals –

Should countries refuse entry to those who, fir example, have had eart attacks or strokes in the past, or to people who are vastly overweight?

Why do we have insurance?

413513 ▶▶▶ FenTyger, replying to rockoman, 3, #512 of 1392 🔗

Wait for the jab clause in your travel insurance.

413685 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to FenTyger, 1, #513 of 1392 🔗

Valid point – and worth checking…

413540 ▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to rockoman, 5, #514 of 1392 🔗

Bringing the kids into it proves beyond doubt they are bullshitting !! Where is the Pushback ???….

413484 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to frankfrankly, 3, #515 of 1392 🔗

Go were the data leads. That’s the only course to retain integrity.

Being scared of weaponised language is self censorship.

413486 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to frankfrankly, 7, #516 of 1392 🔗

The lockdown is entwined with the vaccine.There are inseparable.It wasn’t us who made it so it was the government.Cast your mind back when Johnson unveiled the 5 colour alert system.Level 1 normality would not be possible without a vaccine.This was in May last year I think.

413488 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to frankfrankly, 6, #517 of 1392 🔗

‘anri-vaxx’ is a weaponized propaganda term, which has been developed by the public relations operatons of the pharmaceutical industry to paint anyone who questions any vaccine in any way whatsover as a woolly-minded eccentric, dangerous to public health.

413506 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to frankfrankly, 10, #518 of 1392 🔗

So if we have evidence that vaccines are causing harm we should keep quiet about it?

‘Anti-vax’ is a version of an ad hominem argument, like pseudophobias etc, it is attempt to end debate before it starts. Responsible human beings do not behave this way.

413508 ▶▶ Julian, replying to frankfrankly, 14, #519 of 1392 🔗

Like any other important issue, the merits or otherwise of a certain vaccination should be discussed based on the evidence and the wider situation

There are legitimate concerns regarding the safety of a vaccine that only has an emergecy licence, that has not finished its trials, that is experimental, that has been produced in a climate of fear, panic and government deception and dishonesty

Anyone calling themselves a sceptic needs to question it

But beyond that, even if the vaccine is safe and effective, it is NOT a way out of this and never can be. The fundamental problems where the level of risk has been distorted and people’s thinking about risk has altered the fabric of our society probably for generations in a deeper and wider way than almost any event in human history will not go away and as long as they don’t, we are lost

413515 ▶▶▶ FenTyger, replying to Julian, #520 of 1392 🔗

Exactly, Ms Tyg has her jab offer (by post) this AM.

413521 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Julian, 11, #521 of 1392 🔗

The risk issue I find fascinating with regards to the vaccine. The majority of the population want no risk from coronavirus which is why they accept the draconian measures and yet see no risk from a new vaccine, my brain cannot fathom why. Everyone can ascertain their own risk in life but the majority will accept no risk from one action but not the other in the context of coronavirus.

413529 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Cumbriacracked, 8, #522 of 1392 🔗

The majority of the population want no risk from coronavirus which is why they accept the draconian measures and yet see no risk from a new vaccine, my brain cannot fathom why.

Indoctrination.

By extremely well funded people with access to government powers.

Not a conspiracy theory – that’s just what the government and corporate wealth have been doing, more or less openly, for years, and reaching a hysterical peak in the coronapanic

413542 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Mark, #523 of 1392 🔗

Of course but still interesting. Two such opposing views to risk, the behaviour bods on SAGE must be loving the results they are achieving.

413619 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #524 of 1392 🔗

They are prepared to actively submit themselves to a real, serious, lifelong risk rather than take the chance of a risk that in most cases they won’t even know they’ve encountered, or at worst will temporarily suffer a natural reaction to a regular virus. ‘Nowt so strange as folk’ comes to mind.

413900 ▶▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #525 of 1392 🔗

I was taught about risk analysis and applied it at work several times. One identifies the risks in a proposed course of action and assesses them in terms of likelihood (high, medium or low) and consequence (high, medium or low). Any risk with “high” in either category needs to be mitigated by appropriate measures. “Medium/medium” should also be mitigated if possible, but anything at a lower level needn’t be addressed. The aim is to mitigate all risks down to an acceptable level.

Of course there is some guesswork involved in making these assessments, and regular reviews should be held.

I won’t give a detailed assessment of the two courses of action (taking or not taking the vaccine), but at present I consider the risks of “not taking” as acceptable and the risks of “taking” as being difficult to assess on currently available information, with the potential for medium or high consequence. My decision is therefore not to take at present, which I’ll review in six months or a year’s time.

413562 ▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Julian, 2, #526 of 1392 🔗

Can I throw in an equation I thought of – Before any vaccinations started in the UK , the government had Approx 70 million people ( give or take anyone sneaked in by them ) who could possibly catch covid ! So that’s possibly 70 million problems to sort , Then if they vaccinate everyone not being sure that the jabs are safe enough because the trials are not complete surely the possible problems double to 140 million ! Maths was never my forte but surely they are just heaping shit onto shit !!…

413516 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to frankfrankly, 11, #527 of 1392 🔗

Any person is allowed to say no to any medical treatment, I or anyone else do not need to justify why, be that for a vaccine or anything else. If someone calls me “anti” anything that is their point of view being forced onto a decision I take for my reasons not theirs.

So on LS anyone can be anything they want, some are anti things some are not, we are all allowed to have our views.

413538 ▶▶ Lockdown_Lunacy, replying to frankfrankly, 7, #528 of 1392 🔗

With the exception of a few African countries requiring yellow fever vaccination for entry, I cannot think of anywhere else making vaccination for anything else a condition of entry.

You don’t currently need any jabs to go on ‘one’s hols’ to almost anywhere. Any recommended vaccines for certain destinations are just that, recommended.

413746 ▶▶ ituex, replying to frankfrankly, -4, #529 of 1392 🔗

I agree. It’s very important for LS not to become discredited. I will have the vaccine as will my husband and both our adult children. I don’t believe we need it medically but for work and necessary international travel. It is everybody’s choice. I don’t rubbish the arguments of anti vaxxers but I don’t expect to be vilified for my choice either.

413462 Brett_McS, 9, #530 of 1392 🔗

The pharmaceutical industry has cottoned on to a real winner, haven’t they? Mutant Strains. At least that’s one segment of the economy that is not in the dumps.

Meanwhile, those unfortunate countries without a pharma industry can use safe, cheap and effective treatments off the shelf.

413463 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 7, #531 of 1392 🔗

It can happen to anyone.

Join the Free Speech Union that will fight for you. Do this instead of a donation to charities that no longer use their money for their causes

https://freespeechunion.org

413598 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to Victoria, 5, #532 of 1392 🔗

When they say that police inquires were dropped as “they got it wrong”, that’s not enough. Someone should get fired and pensions revoked. This should be done hard.

Deincentivise idiocy.

414270 ▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to mhcp, #533 of 1392 🔗

The big problem is that people are so relieved that the filth have buckled, that they don’t sue the police; everyone unjustly treated by the police must sue, immediately.

Nothing else works.

413464 Matt The Cat, replying to Matt The Cat, 3, #534 of 1392 🔗

A bit of “light relief” courtesy of one of our local rags down here on the south coast.

Hilariously grotesque. Apologies if you’ve just eaten, or were about to eat.

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/19084562.businesswoman-makes-cake-making-comeback-honour-captain-sir-tom/

413470 ▶▶ l835, replying to Matt The Cat, 3, #535 of 1392 🔗

Quite appropriate, considering what the NHS spent the money he raised on!

413565 ▶▶ DavidC, replying to Matt The Cat, 1, #536 of 1392 🔗

FFS!

DavidC

413604 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Matt The Cat, 1, #537 of 1392 🔗

Brilliant, thanks, needed a laugh.

413467 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 5, #538 of 1392 🔗

Matt Hancock

hoped new drugs coming by the end of 2021 could make Covid a “treatable disease””

so, lockdown til these new drugs come – one last push – what could possibly go wrong?

413472 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to steve_w, 3, #539 of 1392 🔗

So good news for the minority it actually affects, whereas the 99.9% don’t need your drugs. So blatant with the ‘drug’ bit. From a doctor friend of a friend, many of the covid victims are or have been smokers and have respiratory problems but smoking is tax to the government

413495 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to DanClarke, 4, #540 of 1392 🔗

It’s already treatable

Better treatments will come, but not if govts are obsessed with lockdowns, vaccines and zero covid

413501 ▶▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Julian, 4, #541 of 1392 🔗

I can’t think of anyone who has been involved in all this as anything other than crooks, part of a cabal

413527 ▶▶▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to DanClarke, #542 of 1392 🔗

Same here

413505 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to steve_w, 6, #543 of 1392 🔗

So the majority of the great British public focuses on the treatable disease but I see it as another new date from Wancock, the end of the year. There is always a not so subtle “hidden” message in everything he says.

413541 ▶▶ mikewaite, replying to steve_w, #544 of 1392 🔗

So no longer aiming for zero covid if they are accepting SARS -Cov2 as an endemic pathogen, similar , according to the Telegraph version of hancock’s statement , to seasonal flu viruses.
That surely is quite a significant change of mood isn’t it?

413556 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to mikewaite, #545 of 1392 🔗

Hopefully but I do not believe a word that comes from Wancock.

413476 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 11, #546 of 1392 🔗

Is this paving the way for mandatory vaccination for our children to attend school? Also, who puts their child up for vaccine trials, for a disease which does them no harm?

413545 ▶▶ End of Tether, replying to Liberty, 1, #547 of 1392 🔗

Hancock should lead by example and let his kids be the first guinea pigs.

413549 ▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to End of Tether, 6, #548 of 1392 🔗

Maybe it will be like the MMR situation with Blair. He would never say whether or not he has vaccinated his son.

413561 ▶▶▶▶ DavidC, replying to Liberty, 2, #549 of 1392 🔗

Tony B. Liar – slimeball.

DavidC

413603 ▶▶▶▶ CGL, replying to Liberty, 2, #550 of 1392 🔗

Surely this information will now be available on his vaccine passport though?
Or perhaps he will be one of the elite that don’t need one – that must be it.

413622 ▶▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Liberty, 2, #551 of 1392 🔗

Yes , the Dr Wakefield witch-hunt was in full swing and Blair could have ended the debate by proving that Ewen had had the MMR , however he didn’t , as you said the bastard kept quiet ! Our youngest was due the Jab at that time but because of the uproar we had his jabs done separately , typical oily politician , so much he has to answer for !!!

413625 ▶▶▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Freddy Boy, 1, #552 of 1392 🔗

I always reckoned that he had Ewans jabs done separately same as us !! But the good doctor still had to be sacrificed !!

414274 ▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Liberty, #553 of 1392 🔗

Yes. That’s because he probably went to Paris to pay for the private administration of the single vaccines. Stinking hypocrite if he did.

The likelihood of him being a hypocrite and a liar? Well, I wonder…

413559 ▶▶▶ DavidC, replying to End of Tether, 1, #554 of 1392 🔗

Even if he did so on TV it would probably be saline.

I’ve just remembered David Mellor and his kid(s?) eating the beefburgers…!

DavidC

413597 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to DavidC, 2, #555 of 1392 🔗

Gummer, (not Mellor) now leading the CCC thermageddon hoax and making a pretty peny off it. https://www.thegwpf.com/mail-on-sunday-reveals-hidden-payments-to-climate-change-committee-chairman/

413961 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Nigel Sherratt, #556 of 1392 🔗

Ah, the mad cow disease panic. What happened to that? Unless it caused all the dementia we are seeing nowadays. I actually recall buying into the fear for a while, being young.

413590 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to End of Tether, #557 of 1392 🔗

Yes I totally agree

413902 ▶▶ Woden, replying to Liberty, #558 of 1392 🔗

This is a great Pharma~ vaccine cash cow , jab the young and reap the pharmaceutical erm.. benefits at a later date when the adverse reactions manifest.. perfect!

413479 peterthepainter, 7, #559 of 1392 🔗

rNHS wasting more money. I am due to have a telephone conversation with a urologist in JUNE about what they are going to do about my bladder stone. They have written to me to tell me to still attend my appointment as the hospital is still open. WTF are they writing to me to tell me to answer the phone.

I see that my cloth nappy will no longer be acceptable and they will only let me in with a surgical mask. LOL.

This is a hospital that was not very busy when I went for the MRI scan and only slightly more busy when I went to find out what, if anything, had been found – that result could have been given on the phone as well. Apart from having to wear the nappy and having the temperature of my ear checked there was no specific covid infection control and people just kept swopping seats. If that had been a café or restaurant that we had gone to in September they would have been wiping down between patients.

413481 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 18, #560 of 1392 🔗

My apologies if this has been posted already and I missed it but It looks like the spirit of Josef Mengele lives on;
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9256383/Oxford-Covid-vaccine-tested-children-young-six-world-trial.html?ito=push-notification&ci=77030&si=25332643
Mad, deranged megalomaniacs!
In the second world war we evacuated the children to keep them safe, but in 2021 we throw them like lambs to the slaughter. Completely pointless for a virus that does not affect them and with a vaccine that may at best last a few months.

413523 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Steve Martindale, 4, #561 of 1392 🔗

I know !! There are so many things now that are so far off the scale that if you were trying to explain the Methodology in normal times no one would believe a word !!!

413552 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Steve Martindale, 3, #562 of 1392 🔗

Judging by the best rated readers comments, this proposal has backfired spectacularly

413613 ▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #563 of 1392 🔗

Aside from the glaring ethical, moral and safety vacuum that this kind of experimentation resides in, it really raises questions about the media. Where are the screaming headlines when you need them? “Horrific child experimentation to be carried out by doom scientists!” “Child abuse goes mainstream!” “Children as young as 6 forced into horror trials!” Instead they talk about how important the trials are and that the participants are “volunteers”. Volunteers! It’s sinister. Even the poor placebo group are being subjected to the meningitis vaccine (best way to hide adverse events, obvs).

413491 Awkward Git, 13, #564 of 1392 🔗

Didn’t take long did it for the “heroic” NHS that was to be saved to turn into the scapegoat that infected teh majority fo cases and was responsible for sending these people out into the communtiy to spread it further and make the first wave worse than it had to be did it?

From saviour to the responsible casue in one big leap.

Reminds me of the song Zero the Hero from Black Sabbath.

Or is this turn in the narrative part of the takeover by Ministers as bandied about last week?

413514 Freddy Boy, 5, #565 of 1392 🔗

Great news! Jab to be tested on kids as young as six very soon !… Yippie ! Who would have thought , we surely are doomed !.. 🤬

413558 ▶▶ stevie, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #567 of 1392 🔗

The government would normally not allow any of this as these are public servants subject to with confidential agreements. I assume they are allowing these messages as part of the gaslighting and propaganda.

413520 rockoman, replying to rockoman, 5, #568 of 1392 🔗

Gibraltar has a typical all-cause mortality of 30 people in January – max

This year 70 people died in Gibraltar of covid according to official figures -plus an unknown number of others presumably.

So, the number of covid deaths alone in Jnuary was therefore 233% higher than maximal all cause mortality in a typical year.

In the previous 9 months 7 people had died of covid.

413525 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to rockoman, 2, #570 of 1392 🔗

We will never know the answer but I do wonder if relatives are questioning the deaths so close to having a vaccine? When people are suffering the loss of someone they are unlikely to question due to grief, this in itself I find sad.

413689 ▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Cumbriacracked, #571 of 1392 🔗

We will never know the answer. True, because there will be no autopsies and no inquests on the deceased. MW

413528 John001, replying to John001, 3, #572 of 1392 🔗

Does anyone have e-mail addresses for any senior executives at Aldi, ideally the CEO, following my ‘incident’ yesterday?

All e-mails bounce except to ‘customerservice….’.

I want a response from CEO level.

Thanks.

413579 ▶▶ TJN, replying to John001, 1, #574 of 1392 🔗

The government guidance says they cannot compel a lanyard. I posted about this yesterday:

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/02/11/latest-news-282/#comment-410220

following my original post on Wednesday, which relates a similar experience to yours:

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/02/10/latest-news-281/#comment-407396

I can get you more info on this if you need.

413635 ▶▶▶ John001, replying to TJN, 6, #575 of 1392 🔗

Thanks. If they admit anything it’ll ‘become legal’. Due to my lack of recording equipment yesterday it’s potentially their word against mine.

I was more conciliatory in spring 2020. My motto now

‘Sue them, it’s the only language they understand’.

413942 ▶▶▶ Suet, replying to TJN, 1, #576 of 1392 🔗

We all know that on here, TJN. It’s the Door Feldwebels who don’t.

The next time I write to one of these coves, I might just point out that this lack of basic training for people who are at the sharp end of dealing with the most vulnerable in society does not inspire me with confidence about training and compliance in other areas, such as hygiene and food regulations.

413772 ▶▶ Suet, replying to John001, #577 of 1392 🔗

Here’s a list of CEO’s emails: https://www.ceoemail.com/

The CEO of Aldi is shown to be Mr Giles Hurley, and his email is:
gmd.cs@aldi.co.uk

Let us all know how you get on.

413920 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Suet, #578 of 1392 🔗

That works yes – my letter went there and I got a reply back from one of his minions saying he’d read it and wanted to respond. If enough letters annoy the guy he might regret throwing in his lot with the Medical Dictatorship.

413530 Apache, replying to Apache, 4, #579 of 1392 🔗

This is how the readers over at The Times react when one of the unbelievers (me) ask a simple question.

What information have you based your decision to have the vaccine on?

Presumably science and evidence of all the successful immunisation programmes as opposed to antivax quack quack 🦆 c##p

I am an undecided hoping to find some actual facts rather than just a vague assertion that it must be good. Never mind.

Stay at home for the rest of your life then -never mind!

Have a read of Kim Metcalf’s comments further down. She succinctly makes the point for vaccination. Anyone over 65 lost friends to diseases or was severely ill themselves in childhood. Even if they survived, six months or a year away from education would have affected their employment and education for ever.
And as another commentator stated which card would you draw from the pack? COVID-19? Or the vaccine card (even with a possible short term reaction)

I am assuming that’s a rheotorical question. But mine isn’t. Have you heard of any cases where the vaccine has caused harm?

I am an undecided hoping to find some actual facts rather than just a vague assertion that it must be good.

Vague assertion! The media is full of reports on scientific findings – and links to those findings if you feel the reports are lacking. There are also reports on the experiences of those who have had the vaccine and those who have had the disease.
And then there is always common sense.

Another typical covid idiot comment

You only get long covid if you catch short covid. 🤷🏻‍♂️

“How could anti-vaxxers think” and there in lies the fundamental dichotomy – they don’t think!
They get pleasure from lying, not from thinking.

As you can see articulate and well reasoned arguments.

413546 ▶▶ Apache, replying to Apache, 5, #580 of 1392 🔗

I am an undecided hoping to find some actual facts rather than just a vague assertion that it must be good.

The above comment (mine) has already been deleted from the Times comments.

413631 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Apache, 4, #581 of 1392 🔗

You have to be irremediably resistant to reality if you cant grasp the fact that these vaccines, by definition, have not been properly tested.

It’s no different to consuming any old snake-oil remedy on the basis of an advertorial.

414153 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to RickH, #582 of 1392 🔗

I don’t know what you think about this Rick but I am surprised at how many left wing people I know suddenly have this infinite trust in Big Pharma….where has that come from?

413532 Dave Angel Eco Warrier, replying to Dave Angel Eco Warrier, 6, #583 of 1392 🔗

Good to see a crowd at the India v England cricket match. Even better to see mask wearing and anti-social distancing appears to be lax.

413543 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Dave Angel Eco Warrier, 6, #584 of 1392 🔗

Looks like channels broadcasting the cricket in the UK will soon have to cut out pictures of the crowd, or to use technology to doctor the pictures, showing the crowd to be ‘following the rules’.

413557 ▶▶▶ Dave Angel Eco Warrier, replying to rockoman, 3, #585 of 1392 🔗

That did indeed occur to me as well.

413570 ▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Dave Angel Eco Warrier, 6, #586 of 1392 🔗

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

7-day moving average of ‘covid deaths’ is now 90 in India.

That equates to 4 or 5 deaths a day in the UK.

THe curve in India is a classic epidemic one.

413566 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to rockoman, -6, #587 of 1392 🔗

No, you idiot, they are moving to the VACCINE now, the experimental gene therapy.

THAT was their aim.

Are people incapable of reading propaganda at this forum?

413576 ▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to FedupofLies, 3, #588 of 1392 🔗

Well, it’s news to me that I’m an idiot, but thanks for keeping me informed.

Would you please explain your point a little more?

Thank you.

413592 ▶▶▶▶▶ LS99, replying to rockoman, 2, #589 of 1392 🔗

Calling you an idiot was un-called for but I think he means that this is the part of the process when they show you what you’ll be missing if you don’t take the vaccine.

413627 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to LS99, 4, #590 of 1392 🔗

I get the vaccine agenda.

But the Indians haven’t taken a vaccine.

413666 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to rockoman, #591 of 1392 🔗

But the message is, we do have to take it – if we’re idiot enough!, that is ! 🙂 MW

413987 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to rockoman, #592 of 1392 🔗

Oh, I see

413985 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to rockoman, #593 of 1392 🔗

FFS people are so sensitive.

413537 rockoman, replying to rockoman, 4, #594 of 1392 🔗

An absolutely terrific article from Catte Black at Off-Guardian:

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/12/the-new-normal-requires-a-new-response/

413551 ▶▶ Lili, replying to rockoman, 11, #595 of 1392 🔗

But all this is no good if people are not listening and so many are NOT listening. We’ve been trying to this for a year now. Not one of my friends or family responds to anything I say or send them.

413596 ▶▶▶ CGL, replying to Lili, 4, #596 of 1392 🔗

Yup – pissing in the wind

413638 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Lili, 1, #597 of 1392 🔗

In many ways what is worse is those acquaintances who genuinely appear to take in all that you say and make the right noises and then the next thing you hear is them bleating on again about “what is the alternative to lockdown”, “the high numbers of deaths/cases” or that they are “going for their jab”. Back to the moronic brainwashing.

414144 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Dodderydude, 1, #598 of 1392 🔗

They are people like cushions that bear the imprint of the last person that sat on them. They are mentally weak people who cannot cope with being outside the consensus.

413950 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Lili, #599 of 1392 🔗

This says it all for me really. I’ve stopped trying to convince people, if they want to be lemmings it’s their choice. I think a lot of them are scared to have their minds changed having invested so much faith in “the science”.

413623 ▶▶ RickH, replying to rockoman, 6, #600 of 1392 🔗

Yes – although I don’t quite share the optimism, there are some good take-away thoughts :

Don’t let these basic truths be diluted with irrelevant chatter ….”

The old politics and its terminologies are meaningless in the fact of this latest coup against humanity. It’s not a matter of Left v Right any more. It’s a simple division between those who believe in human freedom and those who want humanity enslaved.”

414052 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, #601 of 1392 🔗

More bollocks. Unity is impossible whilst capitalism & socialism exists. Equality is an oxymoron in a hierarchical society. Whilst Homo sapiens exist there we be conflict because competition is the law of nature.

Are you going to surrender or compromise to the covidian religion? There are 2 choices democracy or natural process a.k.a. law of the jungle, anything else is a dictatorship.

414148 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to RickH, #602 of 1392 🔗

Yes its that simple now.

413574 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 4, #603 of 1392 🔗

NY Mag admits Fauci “hot-wired” coronavirus with gain-of-function engineering

After a year of denial, the mainstream media is finally coming to terms with the fact that Anthony Fauci is responsible for “hot-wiring” the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) with experimental gain-of-function technology, which ultimately turned it into a global “pandemic.”

Were it not for the artificial insertion of amino acids and other additives by Fauci and his team, the novel Chinese virus never would have gained the traction it did in terms of being a human-to-human contagion.

In its natural form, the unmodified bat coronavirus would have stayed within the animal kingdom. Instead, thanks to Fauci, it morphed into a tool that is now being used to destroy the global economy and herd the masses straight into the new world order.

“These gain-of-function experiments were an important part of the NIH’s approach to vaccine development, and Anthony Fauci was reluctant to stop funding them,” writes Nicholson Baker for the Intelligencer .

“He and Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, along with Gary Nabel, NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) director of vaccine research, published an opinion piece in the Washington Post in which they contend that the ferret flu experiments, and others like them, were ‘a risk worth taking.’”

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-02-12-mag-admits-fauci-hot-wired-coronavirus.html

413588 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Victoria, 4, #604 of 1392 🔗

I’m not saying there wasn’t research going on, but this all legitimizes the idea of the ‘deadly virus’ being out there, doesn’t it?

Whereas the 7-day mortality rate in India, with 1.35 billion people, is now down to 90 per day.

413704 ▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to rockoman, 1, #605 of 1392 🔗

Not necessarily. It’s a research instrument, not a weapon.

This angle could explain a lot, not in terms of real fear of loss of life, but loss of face. These bastards have been saving face at all costs from the start.

It’s at least credible as an explanation.

413575 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 5, #606 of 1392 🔗

At lot of ifs and buts. However I’m going to chuck this up in the air anyway

Dr Sherri Tenpenny is of the opinion that the ‘vaccine’ could kill when the recipients come into contact with a corona virus in the future

I take on board the previous comments on here that she is dyed in the wool anti vaxxer and not a physician

Odd figures for Gibraltar. Too small a number to make any assumptions, but seem out of the ordinary

413582 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Cecil B, 7, #607 of 1392 🔗

I believe Dolores Cahill, an immunologist, shares her opinion.

413585 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to rockoman, 6, #608 of 1392 🔗

as do the front line doctors who are mostly medical doctors

413584 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Cecil B, 5, #609 of 1392 🔗

It seems to me that the Gibraltar statistics are pretty convincing. They certainly demand further investigation.

413695 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Cecil B, 2, #610 of 1392 🔗
413577 Dorian_Hawkmoon, 2, #611 of 1392 🔗

OK I am analytical by nature but not as clever as some but the nosocomials paper seems to be based on how the sample is skewed towards captive populations? Darned if I could split out positives from Covid from respiratory poorlies. The denominators remain obscure but maybe it’s me. My biased take-away was in the very last para: “There is considerable heterogeneity between Trusts.” Yeah that’s because this is a sampling artifact with some built in assumptions about what they are measuring. Maybe I’m being too critical. But either there is something there and it’s ignoring all your measures or there isn’t anything there (that isn’t normally there).

413578 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 2, #612 of 1392 🔗

Move aside, Big Pharma: BIG COVID is a trillion-dollar industry and those who profit from it will make sure covid never goes away

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-02-12-big-covid-trillion-dollar-industry-profit.html

413700 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Victoria, 2, #613 of 1392 🔗

As above the line, the 1% rebound in the economy was down to track and trace with testing super infrastructure. It’s the kind of society we always dreamed of.

413586 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 3, #614 of 1392 🔗

New Anal Swab Tests Deployed to Fight COVID

While the tests are supposed to be only for “high-risk cases,” they’ve reportedly been given to unsuspecting individuals, including travelers arriving in Beijing , those in quarantine centers and even 1,000 children and teachers who were exposed to the virus

When asked by a journalist whether anal swabs could be implemented for EU-wide COVID testing, a spokesperson said they would “follow the science”

anal-swab-tests-deployed-to-fight-covid.aspx

413605 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to Victoria, 3, #615 of 1392 🔗

hmmm me thinks this may just tip the public over the edge having some idiot telling them to take their caks off and bend over – i forsee big trouble in the back alley!! Can’t see it happening!
If these so called experts are so effing good it can’t be beyond them to design a quick reliable saliva swab.

413645 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to penelope pitstop, 1, #616 of 1392 🔗

at least it would give you a chance to fart in their fucking faces

413684 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to penelope pitstop, 3, #617 of 1392 🔗

Let Wankok be swabbed. .
Let Pantsdown be swabbed.
Let Bozo be swabbed.
In the place they talk out of.

413745 ▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Annie, #618 of 1392 🔗

Yes yes!

413747 ▶▶▶▶ DavidC, replying to Annie, 1, #619 of 1392 🔗

Naughty Annie! Lol!

DavidC

413767 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to penelope pitstop, #620 of 1392 🔗

Next up – vaginal swabs for women? Object rape disguised as science?

413643 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Victoria, 2, #621 of 1392 🔗

Did anyone punch the spokesman when he said ‘follow the science’? Are there so few of us who realise what a nonsense statement that is?

413587 crimsonpirate, replying to crimsonpirate, 6, #622 of 1392 🔗

An important test as to whether we will see vaccine passports is the annual Hajj to Mecca. This year’s dates are 17th to 22nd July. I guess it’s a case of watch this space.

413640 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to crimsonpirate, 1, #623 of 1392 🔗

An interesting point. Do any of the religions object to vaccines? I know that the Jehovah’s Witnesses object to certain medical procedures – blood transfusions i think.

413660 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to redbirdpete, #624 of 1392 🔗

They do refuse blood transmissions – ie of other peoples blood. I believe they will accept their own blood (ie taken from them in advance of possible need for a transfusion) – though would need a JW to confirm that 2nd point.

413591 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 3, #625 of 1392 🔗

Are COVID Vaccines Causing Blood Clots, Brain Injury & Heart Attacks?
https://principia-scientific.com/are-covid-vaccines-causing-blood-clots-brain-injury-heart-attacks/

413641 ▶▶ alw, replying to Basileus, #626 of 1392 🔗

Thank you most interesting. As both my mother and her sister suffered strokes I shall definitely not be having.

A taster.

”Specifically, Whelan was concerned that the new mRNA vaccine technology utilized by Pfizer and Moderna has “the potential to cause microvascular injury (inflammation and small blood clots called microthrombi) to the brain, heart, liver and kidneys in ways that were not assessed in the safety trials.”
While Whelan did not dispute the vaccines’ potential to quickly arrest the spread of the virus (assuming that the vaccines prove to actually prevent transmission — also not assessed in the clinical trials), he cautioned that “it would be vastly worse if hundreds of millions of people were to suffer long-lasting or even permanent damage to their brain or heart microvasculature as a result of failing to appreciate in the short-term an unintended effect of full-length spike protein-based vaccines on other organs.”
Unfortunately, Whelan’s concerns were not acknowledged, and the agency instead relied on the limited clinical trial data. The VRBPAC endorsed the use of the Pfizer vaccine on Dec. 10. The following day, the FDA issued the first COVID-19 vaccine emergency use authorization allowing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine to be widely distributed in individuals 16 and older without calling for the additional studies that Whelan felt were critical to assure safety of the vaccine, especially in children.
Why was Whelan worried about the mRNA vaccines causing blood clots and inflammation?”

413773 ▶▶ kate, replying to Basileus, #627 of 1392 🔗

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-injuries-covid-vaccine-cdc-data/

653 Deaths and 12044 other injuries following covid vaccine CDC data show.

413602 Schrodinger, 4, #628 of 1392 🔗

The American adverse reaction website is updated every Friday. Death is now the 24th most commonly (from hundreds of different types of notifications) reported adverse reaction. Deaths make up 3.88% of all adverse reactions compared to the flu vaccine where deaths make up 0.34% of adverse reactions.

Just to be clear this does not mean that the vaccine caused every death – just the same as it does not mean that it caused every headache.

413656 ▶▶ Hattie, replying to JayBee, 1, #630 of 1392 🔗

The fact Hancock is an avid supporter of the 4th IR, I wonder if this influences his policies – yes, of course it does. Quite convenient that he ended up in such a controlling role, just at the right time.

413608 mhcp, 9, #631 of 1392 🔗

While it’s interesting to say that 40% could have caught Covid in hospital this is more crap as you are using a vague test to say you have it.

As always you cannot say anything if you don’t measure it correctly. Never forget that.

What you have here is speculation and noise because it’s becomingn obvious that something needs to be blamed

413609 JayBee, replying to JayBee, 4, #632 of 1392 🔗
413624 ▶▶ LS99, replying to JayBee, 13, #633 of 1392 🔗

Great article, thanks. I particularly liked this bit (for those who don’t read the article the word vaccine comes from the latin for cow, vacce – from the original smallpox vaccine and Edward Jenner discovering that milkmaids appeared to not get small pox) :

Meanwhile, the response of most Western governments to the failure of their policies continues to be to double down in the manner of the old lady that swallowed a fly:
There was an old lady who swallowed a cow
I don’t know how she swallowed a cow.
She swallowed the cow to catch the dog
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly
I don’t know why she swallowed a fly – Perhaps she’ll die!
It feels like in the year of the Ox, we are now at the stage of her swallowing the Cow (the vaccine) to catch the Dog (the mutant variant) that emerged because she swallowed the cat (put in tiers and a second lockdown) to catch the bird (the case-demic that arose from mass testing in the autumn). The bird was supposed to catch the spider (the closure of schools and universities) that was caused by the original fly. The final stage is to swallow a horse. Let’s not hope we get there, because we all know how that ends.

413644 ▶▶▶ alw, replying to LS99, 1, #634 of 1392 🔗

Wonderful 🤣

413612 Liz F, replying to Liz F, 7, #635 of 1392 🔗

The petition not to roll out Covid 19 vaccine passports has just under 95,000 signatures and rising. At 100,000 the petition “will be considered for debate in Parliament”. No obligation to debate then. Bet our useless Parliament weasels out of it.

413632 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Liz F, 6, #636 of 1392 🔗

They’ve already shut the hall where they do the debates. Makes no diff, their reply to petitions is always “We’re not doing that”. For debates, their answer is always, “Yeah, we’ve talked about it. We’re still not doing what you want.”.

413651 ▶▶ Hattie, replying to Liz F, 3, #637 of 1392 🔗

Haven’t they now suspended any parliamentary debate on petitions … conveniently.

413615 rockoman, 16, #638 of 1392 🔗

Current 7-day moving average ‘Covid death’ rates per million population.

UK – 11

Sweden – 1.2

Germany – 6

Belarus – 1.1

India – 0.067

Brazil – 5

All of the usual resrvations about the ‘covid deaths’ apply.

India:

Lockdown (unaffordable) + SD (impossible) = Herd Immunity.

Source – worldometers.

413621 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to JayBee, 1, #640 of 1392 🔗

“Go sniff your own hair”

413633 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to rockoman, 2, #641 of 1392 🔗

It isn’t even his own hair. Old ‘hair plugs’ has more hair on top than he had 30+ years ago.

413629 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to JayBee, 4, #642 of 1392 🔗

Wow. That was quite an exchange. We could use a few like him!

414299 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Cheezilla, #643 of 1392 🔗

Not sure how much evidence there is for it actually having happened, though…..

413703 ▶▶ Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to JayBee, 4, #644 of 1392 🔗

“Address me as Mr. President or President Biden,”

“I will not, and you can go fuck yourself,”

I’m dying! Hahahaha!

413681 ▶▶ Annie, replying to crimsonpirate, 2, #646 of 1392 🔗

God bless them, every one.

414096 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Annie, #647 of 1392 🔗

there’s a little more to their “brave” decision to “defy” the authorities. They only let people in who can prove they have been vaccinated. I wonder if such a stunt will take place here if Boris is slow to lift the lockdown.

413630 Smelly Melly, replying to Smelly Melly, 14, #648 of 1392 🔗

So the “vaccine” is being proposed in children, I only have one thing to say about that, Thalidomide.

413634 ▶▶ Hattie, replying to Smelly Melly, 13, #649 of 1392 🔗

Pfizer’s literature states it should not be given to under 16s, so how can they even propose this?

413647 ▶▶▶ Hattie, replying to Hattie, #650 of 1392 🔗

My error, I didn’t realize your comment was linked to the new Oxford trial.

413637 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Smelly Melly, #651 of 1392 🔗

The Smiths – Suffer Little Children

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xux9-UQ4wJ4

413672 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, #652 of 1392 🔗

Injecter so much to answer for

413712 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to Freecumbria, 2, #653 of 1392 🔗

Manic Street Preachers have several apt songs

  • If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
  • This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours
  • The Masses Against the Classes
413636 Fear is Finite, replying to Fear is Finite, 4, #654 of 1392 🔗

https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/cov006-oxford

There’s actually an info sheet aimed at each age group. Read it and weep.

413646 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Fear is Finite, 2, #655 of 1392 🔗

(age 6-11 sheet) They seem to have missed out death and serious permanent injury here

“What are the bad things about taking part?

After the blood test it may be sore and leave a bruise. The vaccine may also be sore”

413649 ▶▶ saab93viggen, replying to Fear is Finite, 2, #656 of 1392 🔗

Sickening, truly sickening.

413739 ▶▶ alw, replying to Fear is Finite, 1, #657 of 1392 🔗

More state sponsored child abuse. Hopefully when young people get to the age of majority they can sue their parents and the government.

413816 ▶▶ Lydia, replying to Fear is Finite, #658 of 1392 🔗

The sad thing is that there will be parents and children who will be signing up for this. The parents will be so proud that their child wants to take part.
Crazy.

413642 Jo Starlin, replying to Jo Starlin, 6, #659 of 1392 🔗

Just checking back in. What’s happening in India? Everything looks completely normal at the cricket?

413648 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Jo Starlin, 2, #660 of 1392 🔗

A colleague of mine is over there right now and he told me things are pretty normal, but it’s a big place so measures may vary from state to state.

413655 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Jo Starlin, 6, #661 of 1392 🔗

They can’t afford lockdowns like we can, but obviously we are working on that one.

413668 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 4, #662 of 1392 🔗

The UK will make itself so poor, that it will have no alternative ‘next time’, but to adopt the right policy.

413714 ▶▶▶▶ iane, replying to rockoman, 3, #663 of 1392 🔗

Yes – reminds me of what Churchill once quipped about the US, “You can always rely on Americans to do the right thing; after trying everything else!”.

413662 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Jo Starlin, 7, #664 of 1392 🔗

Herd immunity has almost been achieved.

155,000 deaths

1,350,000,000 have so far survived .

You can work out the miniscule percentage for yourself.

For comparison tuberculosis is estimated to kill 220 000 people in India every year.

413777 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Jo Starlin, 1, #665 of 1392 🔗

The Indian team are on top and are in the box seat batting 1st on a turning pitch. As always more Moeen Ali bowls too many bad balls but he does have knack of getting wickets.

We will do well to secure a draw.

413650 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 27, #666 of 1392 🔗

Just fired off my reply to the Governemnt Legal department

Part one:

In reply to your FOI you have supplied, in my opinion, some very dubious reasoning and convoluted arguments to try and justify your position.

The only 2 relevant statements in your reply are:

The term “social distancing” is not used in legislation.

and

There is no legislation on the legal status of guidance or guidelines.

The rest of your reply is just what can only be described as misdirection and obfuscation especially with regards to social distancing and trying to justify the bully boy tactics being used by local council officials who have defaced High Streets and shopping areas with nonsensical signs, one way systems and road closures and threatened the public and businesses with prosecution, closure and other penalties by insinuating that social distancing is law when it is not and they have no power to enforce it or take any of the measures they have done nor make any of the threats that have done to businesses.

There is also no comparison between social distancing between people who just happen to be in the same premises at the same time to do some shopping and a planned “meeting” between 2 households as you suggest there is.

In the legislation you supplied a link to it clearly states at different points that a “risk assessment” must be used.

As someone who has been intimately involved in health and safety legislation and the writing and reviewing of risk assessments for many years at a senior level some of which start with the premise that if no mitigations are taken there will be multiple fatalities so what can be done to bring the risk down to “as low as reasonably practicable” (ALARP) – notice it does not state “zero risk” – I will put forward my reasoning on why your answer is misdirection.

The legislation you supplied is a Statutory Instrument, the Health and Safety at Work legislation is an Act of Parliament and therefore is pre-eminent of the two pieces of legislation.

Under Health and Safety Legislation companies must use an evidence based risk assessment for all operations, jobs, premises and so on.

The operative wording is “evidence based”.

Professor Dingwall, a SAGE member, about social distancing that is easily found in an internet search:

“it was conjured up out of nowhere”.

So how can something “conjured up out of nowhere” be used for an evidence based risk assessment?

As for being “covid safe” the risk assessment should only be done on transmission risk, not how dangerous the virus may or may not be plus all mitigations should be verifiable as effective with documented evidence to support the risk assessment.

BUT:

Central Government cannot supply anything meaningful even under Freedom of Information request answers.

When asked County Councils can supply no scientific evidence given to them by central Government to warrant or support any restrictions on individuals or businesses so that does not support the Government’s actions.

When asked Borough Councils can supply no scientific evidence given to them by central Government to warrant or support any restrictions on individuals or businesses so that does not support the Government’s actions.

When asked City Councils can supply no scientific evidence given to them by central Government to warrant or support any restrictions on individuals or businesses so that does not support the Government’s actions.

When asked Devolved Governments can supply no scientific evidence given to them by central Government to warrant or support any restrictions on individuals or businesses so that does not support the Government’s actions.

When asked Metropolitan Borough mayors can supply no scientific evidence given to them by central Government to warrant or support any restrictions on individuals or businesses so that does not support the Government’s actions.

The Office of National Statistics’s data on deaths does not support the Government’s actions.

The NHS Hospital activity and bed monitors data does not support the Government’s actions.

FOI answers do not support the Government’s actions.

Documents published by the Government on their own website do not support the Government’s actions.

The OFCOM Notice to Broadcasters dated 23rd March 2020, the refusal to publish any non-official narrative research, the censorship of any non-official narrative research and the vilification and smearing of independent researchers that attempt to question the official narrative does not support the Government’s actions.

If these Government departments cannot supply and meaningful evidence either that can be used for a risk assessment so where do you get the required evidence to document for your risk assessment?

From independent research.

413652 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 18, #667 of 1392 🔗

Part 2:

“But this does not really produce any evidence that a premises can be “covid safe” unless they take precautions like a Level 4 Biolab that handles viruses and other highly infectious pathogens and this is a nonsensical and not a reasonably practicable option – remember ALARP – it is not “reasonably practicable” to bankrupt a company in an attempt to bring risk to zero.

Here is a link to the UN’s World Health Organisation’s 2019 document on Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions for an influenza type epidemic or pandemic:

Very interesting reading.

The document can be downloaded direct for the WHO website here:

https://www.who.int/influenza/publications/public_health_measures/publication/en/

Section 2 has a column called “Quality of Evidence” and is worth reading.

How can anything listed here be used to support them as a mitigation in an evidence based risk assessment that may be used in a court of law to defend yourself and your company against a Health and Safety breach?

Maybe you as the Government Legal department, could answer this in a meaningful way?”

413658 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Awkward Git, 6, #668 of 1392 🔗

That’s is word for word an excellent retort. They are making it up as they go along with a clear conscience. A herd of fools

413719 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Awkward Git, 4, #669 of 1392 🔗

Now right there is the legal basis for a Judicial Review. It’s bloody brilliant. Cannot praise it enough.

413735 ▶▶▶▶ alw, replying to Jo Dominich, 4, #670 of 1392 🔗

The judges in the last two applications for judicial review said there was too much to read. Lazy is an understatement or maybe they have been bought. I despair.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/sacked-barrister-is-the-bar-a-left-wing-club/

413659 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Awkward Git, 9, #671 of 1392 🔗

Your points are an excellent summary of the non-evidence, Awkward.

I fear, however, that the term ‘deaf ears’ prevails.

413661 ▶▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to RickH, 10, #672 of 1392 🔗

I know but does wonders for my mental health.

413664 ▶▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Awkward Git, 12, #673 of 1392 🔗

And all ours, Sir.

413678 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Sam Vimes, 5, #674 of 1392 🔗

Indeed.

413976 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Awkward Git, 2, #675 of 1392 🔗

Thank you AG. Your destruction of government non-speak needs a much wider audience. I hope you don’t mine me copying it and passing it along.

413671 ▶▶ l835, replying to Awkward Git, 4, #676 of 1392 🔗

The Government Legal Department are bastards. They use their weight and unlimited resources to crush any opposition. In my dealings with them they tried to claim the cost of two barristers, you’re only allowed one in law, so the unimpressed judge threw it out.

413676 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Awkward Git, 12, #677 of 1392 🔗

Superb as ever, AG.
Oh, the vile, horrible street junk that antisocial distancing has spawned, making high streets hideous. And the threats plastered over every shop, banning human beings in favour of muzzled zombies. I never go into my town centre if I can possibly avoid it.

414130 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Annie, #678 of 1392 🔗

Me neither I hate going to any towns now and I used to enjoy it. I now go only where I see non humans…sad eh?

413720 ▶▶ alw, replying to Awkward Git, 2, #679 of 1392 🔗

We need to put some of the nonsense to bed;
Only children who have no outside space can play in playgrounds.
Takeaway only for those who don’t have cooking facilities.
When dining out in restaurants you don’t need to have a mask to enter, go to your table or go to the loo.

Too many to mention.

https://laworfiction.com/2020/09/face-covering-some-pretend-law/

413654 Derek Toyne, replying to Derek Toyne, 11, #680 of 1392 🔗

Today I looked at the stats for where I live and discovered 99.9% are covid free which compares to the national average of 99.8%. I live in a city so not some sparsely populated place where people don’t see each other from day to day. Yet where all been told there’s virus out there waiting to kill us all if we dare send our kids to school or go to work. The lockdown supporters say it is all due to lockdown and don’t even consider things like immunity due to prior infection or acquired immunity due to being infected with covid. This together with vaccines will not only bring down infections below a thousand a day but will keep them down. Come spring and sunny weather it will be very hard to justify lockdown but who knows then maybe the government will make it illegal to do anything without a vaccine !

413701 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Derek Toyne, 4, #681 of 1392 🔗

Apart from the fact of course that there is no pandemic just the flu.

413702 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Derek Toyne, 6, #682 of 1392 🔗

The actual prevalence of real illness is probably one of the most neglected key pieces of data – partly because it really puts risk into proportion. All the fear-mongering depends upon a grossly disproportionate exaggeration.

413677 l835, replying to l835, 30, #683 of 1392 🔗

For a brief, glorious moment I was in a shop where the unmasked outnumbered the masked. The fear in one woman’s eyes!!! I honestly thought I’d missed the announcement saying it’s back to normal!

413708 ▶▶ iane, replying to l835, 12, #684 of 1392 🔗

I was in Tesco this morning. Lots of unmasked there – well, there was me and me!

413725 ▶▶ alw, replying to l835, 3, #685 of 1392 🔗

I walked into our local patisserie this morning unmasked. I was the only one in a crowded shop but no one batted an eyelid.

413679 Ianric, replying to Ianric, 41, #686 of 1392 🔗

It has been argued that if restrictions were lifted, the economy is like a coiled spring which will bounce back. I wonder what planet someone who belives this is living on. How will the economy bounce back in view of the following even if restrictions are fully lifted

  • Who would want to start up, set up or buy a business in view of the fact your business could be closed down or have to operate under restrictions which will no longer make your business viable eg restaurants only being to offer takeaway or only outdoor dining. Even if your business was allowed to operate, business closures would have a knock effect on your business. For instance, who would want to set up a brewery if pubs, restaurants and hotels were forced to close which would deprive you of your customer base. This point has been several times in the comments. The range of businesses forced to close during full lockdowns was vast and only a limited of businesses are allowed to operate.
  • If unemployment goes up when furlough ends, this will take spending money out of the economy.
  • Many business will likely have already gone banrkupt due to going through a cycle of having to close, being able to open, having to close again and operate under restrictions when open.
  • Due to constant fear porn by the media people will be reluctant to use pubs, restaurants and gyms. I know of several people who will not use these businesses.
  • People with jobs could be reluctant to spend due to fear their jobs could be under threat if their business could be closed again in another lockdown.
  • Even if business survive they will have lost a lot of revenue due to almost a year of lockdowns.
  • Business will be reluctant to invest due to fear of being forced to close again. For instance, would a gym owner feel it would be worth investing in new equipment if his or her business could be forced to close again.
413696 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Ianric, 14, #687 of 1392 🔗

Also another mad scientist from the SPI-1 modelling group has said if lockdown is lifted too early it ‘could’ cause a massive third wave. I am sick of modelling to date it has been grossly wrong. Johnson needs to deal with real data now.

413713 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ianric, 9, #688 of 1392 🔗

Fishi should demand that Bozo give a cast-iron guarantee that there will be no more lockdowns, ever.
Fishi won’t. Fishi is a blackguard.

413731 ▶▶ BJs Brain is Missing, replying to Ianric, 12, #689 of 1392 🔗

You can also add the impending disaster which is IR35 tax legislation and coming into force this April. This will finish off many self-employed and limited companies. Only the truly big boys will still be able to operate. And the so-called Conservative Party is supposed to be the party of business and sound financial management? Don’t make me laugh!

413757 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 8, #690 of 1392 🔗

It is the party of big business. The trouble is that small business people vote for them because they do not realise this. They may have trouble facing the voters after this one, so they have every motive to cancel the next elections because of Covid.

413758 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 3, #691 of 1392 🔗

They are neither that NOR Conservative

413748 ▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Ianric, #692 of 1392 🔗

You think a Governor at the Bank Of England who said that is brighter than you ? hahahaha

413789 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to Ianric, 6, #693 of 1392 🔗

I am lucky in that my close contact business is run from an annex on my home, if I had had to rent, I would have had to close and give the keys back, unless I had a very understanding landlord, or were prepared to take huge loans out to continue. I can see many of those who run as limited companies rolling the company, writing off the debts and starting again if they are confident that it’s worth doing, for many it wont be worth the risk to continue to trade. Lots of us, me included got no financial support during the lockdowns. These bounce back loans in the main will not be paid back, so that’s more lockdown debt we will all be paying back.

I think anyone opening a cafe/restaurant/salon/close contact type business at the moment is totally mad as to me it looks like we could possibly be looking at a 9 month working year or restrictions so we cant operate at full capacity for quite some time. I am glad I am older, with money behind me, although now not as much as a year ago, and a tiny mortgage, if I was young I couldn’t have got through this terrible time financially.

413802 ▶▶ dhpaul, replying to Ianric, 13, #694 of 1392 🔗

I would add that people like myself are just not interested in the experience of doing something if it involves wearing a muzzle, or I am restricted by anti social distancing measures. I don’t think I am alone in this

413809 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to dhpaul, 3, #695 of 1392 🔗

Ditto

413981 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to dhpaul, #696 of 1392 🔗

I will NEVER walk into an inn or tavern that did not support the Great Reopening.

414372 ▶▶▶▶ BJJ, replying to FedupofLies, #697 of 1392 🔗

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatReject/comments/liz8wr/restaurants_sued_the_government_to_stay_open_and/

91 restaurants sued the government and won and now the New York authorities lifted the ban.

414201 ▶▶▶ Stephanos, replying to dhpaul, #698 of 1392 🔗

You are far from alone in this.

413909 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to Ianric, 1, #699 of 1392 🔗

Not forgetting the colossal debt that has been created , which will presumably lead to tax rises, so less disposable income. This will be exacerbated by the social security bill caused by mass unemployment, family break ups, repossessions, mental health issues, NHS backlog, crime increase etc.

Meanwhile there’ll still be huge ongoing costs for covid-related measures that will no doubt be here to stay for the foreseeable.

Throw in Brexit, which is having a massive effect on SMEs that ship to/from the EU – some will accept their businesses are no longer viable with the extra costs involved, others will relocate/set up operations in an EU country instead.

And we had austerity measures for several years so presumably there’s very little capacity to find any additional cuts in the system to save money.

Good luck Sunak.

413931 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Ianric, #700 of 1392 🔗

The only way out is for us to express our freedoms (still looking after the vulnerable – but properly, i.e. as we see fit). The Great Reopening may well be the start of something good. One thing that concerns me is that people joining the Gt. Reset should do so in groups for support.

413941 ▶▶ Edward, replying to Ianric, #701 of 1392 🔗

The big brewing companies must be suffering from absence of sales in pubs, but like most of the corporate sector they’re keeping quiet. Or are they selling much more than usual in supermarkets?

413968 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to Ianric, #702 of 1392 🔗

We could give tax breaks to risk takers then. I’d be fine if the only people I met were normal people.

414013 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Ianric, #703 of 1392 🔗

I am an economist but now count myself as ‘lapsed’. Never has such bull shit been uttered by so many. The points you raise are all valid…..economists talk shit I’m afraid.

413710 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Ianric, 2, #705 of 1392 🔗

Absolute garbage! The same pedohysterical parents are the same who are wanting to vaccinate their kids with EXPERIMENTAL gene therapy.

Pedohysteria was just another psyop to create ‘stranger danger’ to distract away from the REAL threat to kids: isolation from society and being stuck in front of a screen leading to brainwashing and lower immune systems.

Q was just a microcosm of this. Might have started as a prank but was coopted by intelligence.

BULLSHIT!

413852 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to FedupofLies, 11, #706 of 1392 🔗

Stranger danger and fear of your kids getting fiddled by pedeos (that are literally everywhere) has been probably one of the most damaging psy-ops in the last 20 years. A systematic abuse of the threat of stranger danger. WHY?

To enable all kinds of highly intrusive state intervention, censorial oversight and controlls on “The Internet”,(which is like the telly innit) and also families and children.

This trojan horse will be used again and again and again until we need internet passports and licences that will be revoked.

Another psy-op scam.

Now, the harms it has caused. One of the main ones that I can see, as a 50 year old male, is that:

I AM LITERALLY NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO YOUNG PEOPLE

As a consequence I have not talked to a young person (under the age of 25) with a few notable exceptions for the last 25 years.

Make of that what you will, but multiply this by some big number and you have a big problem. Young people only get to talk to their families and approved other adults.

Perhaps this is why they are so brainwashed.

When I was a kid, I used to just walk into other people’s houses, people around the village, the old peeps there, just for entertainment, a routine, something to do, lets go and chat with old Mr and Mrs Smith, perhaps old Mr Smith (who was in in the first world war) will get his shotgun out and let us play with it again or tell us some tall war stories….kind of thing.

Yes children of today are really missing out on the experiences and wisdom of their elders, on a massive scale. This is going to cause great harm.

414124 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Two-Six, 2, #707 of 1392 🔗

Brilliant post and the cause of much of this shite too.

413694 videosteve, replying to videosteve, 3, #708 of 1392 🔗

I’m sure I’m not the first to post this image. FFS. Spotted on a Bath bench.

413760 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to videosteve, 5, #709 of 1392 🔗

Hmm, 2 obese cartoon women. Wonderful

413769 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to videosteve, 2, #710 of 1392 🔗

Oh, Saffron Walden did not get these gems?

413862 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Silke David, #711 of 1392 🔗

Don’t give ’em ideas! Still, good thing is, our bench signs are being ignored.

413911 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to videosteve, 1, #712 of 1392 🔗

Antisocially distanced and muzzled. What’s the problem? Catch-ups are life.

413934 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to videosteve, 1, #713 of 1392 🔗

That would come of with a small tug, no problem.
*As the actress said to the bishop*

414040 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to videosteve, #714 of 1392 🔗

Hope you cut the ties and removed it?

414079 ▶▶ Janette, replying to videosteve, #715 of 1392 🔗

Crikey it gets worse doesn’t it!

413707 Biggles, replying to Biggles, 5, #716 of 1392 🔗

I’m glad I don’t live in Barnsley. A local sculptor is designing a Covid Memorial which might look a bit like the artist impression. It will represent those who lost their lives and serve as a tribute to key workers…..

413722 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Biggles, 6, #717 of 1392 🔗

Riminds me of the burglars, sorry Burghers, of Calais.
And a better monument to the insanity would be a group of miserable people with muzzles. Or a lonely, miserable old person locked up in a cell.

413753 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Annie, 1, #718 of 1392 🔗

Well, they had nooses around their necks.

413727 ▶▶ Alice, replying to Biggles, 6, #719 of 1392 🔗

In the great tradition of socialist realism…

413729 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Biggles, 7, #720 of 1392 🔗

Is this a joke ?

413741 ▶▶▶ Biggles, replying to Bella Donna, 3, #721 of 1392 🔗

Apparently not, due to be in place in November.

413804 ▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Biggles, 6, #722 of 1392 🔗

Its beyond ridiculous and if I was a council tax payer I would certainly complain about my council taxes paying for it..

413750 ▶▶ Teddy Edward, replying to Biggles, 3, #723 of 1392 🔗

No Caucasian figures I hope!

413768 ▶▶ mj, replying to Biggles, 5, #724 of 1392 🔗

Hope they stick it next to a war memorial .. then people can draw their own comparisons

413771 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Biggles, 4, #725 of 1392 🔗

You’re going to have a lot of statues, then, what with the ones for cancer, ischaemic heart disease, dementia and so on. Oh, and the big one for ‘Government Caused Collateral Deaths’.

414039 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Sam Vimes, 1, #726 of 1392 🔗

Don’t forget the Lockdown Suicides.

413787 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Biggles, 2, #727 of 1392 🔗

Awful. The lack of perspective is shocking.

I am dreading the yearly onslaught of documentaries and minutes silences. This hell will be forever forced into view.

413870 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Biggles, 10, #728 of 1392 🔗

The statue should feature a face nappy fascist cop, tazering a young woman for face nappy refusal, with a crew of TSG cops sitting on her boyfriend in a strangle hold, , fastening his hands with zip ties, as another old lady is sprayed in the face with CS gas by another uniformed hero to symbolise the steadfast strength and determination of those on the front line in their fight against covid.

413932 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Two-Six, 4, #729 of 1392 🔗

…and two crying children being pulled apart as they hold out their arms to each other.

413938 ▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Fiona Walker, #730 of 1392 🔗

Yer!

413921 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to Biggles, 1, #731 of 1392 🔗

Urgh, that is vomit-inducing. Still, could have been worse, could have been a statue of Boohoo Wancock.

413924 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Biggles, 2, #732 of 1392 🔗

Teacher? Are they going to show them sitting on their fat arse at home?

413930 ▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Biggles, 3, #733 of 1392 🔗

Right, next time there’s a statue toppling protest we know where to go. See you in Barnsley!

413721 LittleMissSunshine, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 34, #734 of 1392 🔗

Hi, new to here but glad to have found my people! Its a lonely, faceless world right now. Ive been reading for a few months, but after the vaccine warriors forced themselves, unannounced, into my 94 year old grandmothers home, i can no longer be quietly sceptical. Shes lives alone with no help, copes very well thank you very much. Since she had the vaccine, 2 weeks ago now, she has had a swollen arm which causes physical pain. She could not use it for the first week after. Shes also been suffering nose bleeds, and 2 weeks down the line has lost her apetite and feeling tired. It came to a head last week when she felt so bad she decided to go for a nap. She was woken the following day by ambulance and police trying to break the door down as the neighbours had not been able to contact her for nearly 2 days. I mean, it must just be a coincidence, shes 94 after all, people get old. But 2 weeks ago… she was fine. Shes now so worried she considering not taking the second dose. I hope she doesnt.

413732 ▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 15, #735 of 1392 🔗

Welcome, she certainly should not take the second dose,at 94 she should be allowed to live the rest of her life in peace.

413751 ▶▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 18, #736 of 1392 🔗

Thank you. Unfortunatly i live 300 miles away and have not been able to see her since october. So shes certainly living a quiet life! Im so angry i literally shake with silent rage at times and so sad that at 94 she cannot enjoy time with her kids and grandchildren. I will never ever forgive the government for this.

413765 ▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 11, #737 of 1392 🔗

Well, good that she has neighbours who were concerned for her! Surely, being woken up by police must have been a shock, but those side effects are terrible. Please discourage her from having a second jab, the medical evidence is very clear that 1 is sufficient!

413884 ▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 4, #738 of 1392 🔗

You are DEFINITELY not alone!

413955 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 7, #739 of 1392 🔗

There is a long, long list of their crimes ready to be turned into indictments at Nuremberg 2.
We won’t forget and we won’t forgive.

414073 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 1, #740 of 1392 🔗

I agree she should stay well clear of it

413733 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 5, #741 of 1392 🔗

Thanks for sharing.

So sorry to hear that. Hope your grandmother is feeling better soon.

413882 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 3, #742 of 1392 🔗

Do report it via the ”Yellow Card”.
I don’t trust this lot, but it might help someone else. I do feel for you, and hope she feels better soon.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting#yellow-card-reports

414075 ▶▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Banjones, 2, #743 of 1392 🔗

Thank you. Ive forwaded this to my mum – shes the “anti-covid” reincarnated. Shes livid. Shes not yet 70 but was offered vaccine 2 weeks ago “no thank you” and hung up! im not sure i could be so polite…

413939 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 2, #744 of 1392 🔗

Report it through the MHRA yellow card scheme.

413953 ▶▶ Annie, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 2, #745 of 1392 🔗

Welcome, and best wishes to your gran.

413728 Bella Donna, replying to Bella Donna, 9, #746 of 1392 🔗

I was phoned by my local library this morning to ask how I was. 😅 I was somewhat surprised by this but I decided to play along. I used to be an avid library goer visiting the library every week without fail. I haven’t set foot in the library since I was spoken to very rudely when I attempted to take my books back last year. I was treated as a leper and I haven’t forgotten or forgiven them for it. She apologised profusely and explained some people were very frightened by Covid. We had quite a chat about covid. Needless to say she’s very much onboard with it, she’s even had the jab although she didn’t have to but in the interests of keeping safe blah blah. Everything I tried to counter with she wasn’t interested in hearing, she gets all her news from the TV. She asked if I had had the jab I said no and I wasn’t going to as I wasn’t prepared to be used as a lab rat. She admitted to being worried about having it but other than an achy arm she feels fine, (she had the Pfizer jab) her friend had the Astrazeneca jab and hasn’t been very well. I didn’t say any more about it as its early days yet and she might very well have no bad reaction. The library opens next week but its only click and collect and she hopes for the library to eventually be opened as normal eventually, I LOL at that!

413743 ▶▶ Teddy Edward, replying to Bella Donna, 7, #747 of 1392 🔗

I envisage your next trip to that antiquated service for you to be greeted by the Skeletal remains of that Mouse.Seated at her desk with a jab badge pinned to her remains.Madness!

413841 ▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to Bella Donna, 18, #748 of 1392 🔗

I miss the library. I miss mooching around the charity shops. I miss a cup of coffee in the local cafe. I miss a pint or two and a meandering chat on a Friday night. I miss five a side football and squash. It’s still hard to believe these simple, harmless pleasures are deemed so dangerous they have all been shut down. And if they return this year it’ll be an endless hell of QR codes, masks, “social distancing” restrictions and sloppy hand sanitizer which will still suck the joy out of everything. End of Lockdown has to mean returning to exactly how things were before or it means nothing.

413878 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Johnsontown, 3, #749 of 1392 🔗

I posted this above, but in case you miss it, it describes well what we’re aiming for:
”The day the people stood up”…..
https://usercontent.flodesk.com/18362695-f9e0-4cfd-9424-36de88d15e58/upload/the-day-the-people-stood-up-2_62e437a4-3e84-44f1-8f7f-f0e79f92f5d6.pdf

It’s from Voices for Freedom, New Zealand. There are lots like us there too – despite what many want us to believe.

414004 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Johnsontown, 1, #750 of 1392 🔗

Exactly.

413859 ▶▶ dorset dumpling, replying to Bella Donna, 2, #751 of 1392 🔗

Yes, I miss the library too and, like you, I’ve not been in for nearly a year now. After the first lockdown they opened with a click and collect, but you couldn’t specify which book you wanted, only the genre and they’d choose for you from what each library had in stock as they were not allowed to get books from other libraries in the county! I’m fortunate enough to be able to afford to buy real books when I want them, but I do feel for those who can’t. Same applies to the charity shops, which round here have been closed more than they’ve been open in the last year. Always a good source of novels of all genres and a good place to deposit the ones you’ve read.

414005 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to dorset dumpling, 2, #752 of 1392 🔗

Charity shops might as well not have existed this last year. I have seen some that have closed for good too. By the time they reopen many of their volunteers will have died of old age!

413875 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Bella Donna, #753 of 1392 🔗

I called my library a few weeks ago to get them to order Klaus Swabbs book TGR, I got through to a council phone answering minion, gave him the 3rd degree of LD scepticism, scared him silly, then did the same for library lady.
I still haven’t got my book, I think she has to go and have a lie down after she got of the phone with me and forgot about ordering my book.

414215 ▶▶ Stephanos, replying to Bella Donna, 1, #754 of 1392 🔗

Before March last year I used to go to the Bodleian twice a week for the study of Greek, Latin and Syriac. In those good old days one showed one’s ticket, got in, selected a desk and could have a good browse around. Many of the libraries were open until 10:00pm which was great.
Now?
One needs to ‘book a slot’, one cannot simply turn up. It is only possible to visit ONE library – I used to go to two in one day comfortably. And, of course, there is the business of anti-social distancing (completely unnecessary) and face-nappies. Horrible!
I haven’t been since these vile and idiotic restrictions have been in place. So I have to rely on archive.org and numerous other web sites.
Not the same.

413736 stefarm, replying to stefarm, 24, #755 of 1392 🔗

Well folks just had my first bona fide cunty swerver.

Me and the OH were having a nice stroll/skate around the block and along the local bike track getting some fresh air when coming towards us we see the lesser spotted 60 something head swivelling eye spinning paid up member of the covoid cult, all the gear and no idea walking regalia, no mask. Silly prat dived into a snow drift.

Walking away it chirped ‘space, give me some space, how dare you’

We both turned around.

Me ‘grow up you fucking idiot’.

Mrs brave was off.

We both turned to each other.

Me ‘welcome to the new normal, the indoctrination is strong in that one’

OH ‘oh dear, sad days, what an arsehole’

413959 ▶▶ Annie, replying to stefarm, 1, #756 of 1392 🔗

The New Brits. Imbecile zombies.

413744 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 19, #758 of 1392 🔗

Max n Paddy doing their rounds today: completely ignored all the bench-sitters (including this pesky reoffender) and carried on having a chat and a fag!

413759 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to kh1485, 1, #759 of 1392 🔗

Well, he’s not eating, so I guess it’s ok. But is he ‘essential’?

413791 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Sam Vimes, 9, #760 of 1392 🔗

Ha ha … You might know that as soon as I posted that, the bloody rozzers turned up and cleared the park. And what was sad is that one of our sceptics was in with his two sons and one of them rushed to the other side of the shop in case they saw him. These people are bastards.

413795 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to kh1485, 5, #761 of 1392 🔗

Cunting bastards, and yet people will go on supporting these scum police.

We don’t need a police force. Property rights and gun rights.

413798 ▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to kh1485, 4, #762 of 1392 🔗

Lower than a snake’s bally (belly) and/or a sh×thouse on a U boat.

413935 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to kh1485, #763 of 1392 🔗

Awwww….

413756 Sam Vimes, replying to Sam Vimes, 18, #764 of 1392 🔗

Just received second parcel delivery in as many days. Both times, postie unmasked, right up to the door and handed over the goodies. Little victories.

414032 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Sam Vimes, 2, #765 of 1392 🔗

Yep – I told the main postie off the other day for coming into my garden in a mask – as I’m entitled to say I don’t allow mask-wearing in my home. She’s turned up several times since – without a mask. Little victories.

413766 alw, replying to alw, 11, #766 of 1392 🔗

“March 8 too soon to reopen schools as NHS staff ‘on their knees’, health chief warns”
These mad scientists along with the political class need to be incarcerated.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-vaccine-lockdown-end-uk-cases-quarantine/

413774 ▶▶ Old Bill, replying to alw, 16, #767 of 1392 🔗

“NHS staff ‘on their knees”

On their knees praying for it to go on for ever maybe.

413880 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Old Bill, 2, #768 of 1392 🔗

Probably.

I’d bet the sickcare workers in the UK are making bank just like those in the US.

Corona is now too big to cure.

413897 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Old Bill, #769 of 1392 🔗

Have a look at the social media feeds of those who seem to have no shortage of time as long as it involves plugging the experimental jab, eg. Dr Niki Kanani for instance. Clearly some staff are significantly more overwhelmed than others!!

413783 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to alw, 16, #770 of 1392 🔗

Bastards. Was thinking today the friendships that will never be. Primary 7, the last year in secondary schools. All zoomed into the abyss. The young have paid too high a price already. The NHS has no right to be quued up in front of them any more.

413861 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 5, #771 of 1392 🔗

quite, a healthy society protects its children, that is the priority, the most precious thing, – not some bloated bureaucracy which guzzles money and exists mainly just to maintain itself and those parasites who feed off it. this is an extremely sick society, and perhaps deserves to die

413933 ▶▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #772 of 1392 🔗

It’s actually considerations like that which make me think we – as a society – would be better off accepting the Muslims rather than the globalists. And it astonishes me that I would say that.

413970 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #773 of 1392 🔗

It is the teaching proffession itself who are the BASTARDS.

EVERY single leader of the Teacher’s unions needs to be put on trial along with the rest. The penalty: decades in prison.

I don’t know why anyone would want to send their children to those places, however.

413855 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to alw, 2, #774 of 1392 🔗

they need to be shot in the face

413969 ▶▶ Annie, replying to alw, 1, #775 of 1392 🔗

Sacrifice your children to the National Moloch.

413770 Old Bill, replying to Old Bill, 5, #776 of 1392 🔗

The Romans believed that bread and circuses would quell civil unrest and it seemed to work for them.

In dear old GB we don’t even need the circuses to achieve the same result.

Says a lot about us doesn’t it.

Although I suppose you could argue that social media is a circus of sorts.

413779 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Old Bill, 5, #777 of 1392 🔗

Circus is provided by TV, the internet, elite sport

413825 ▶▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to Julian, 4, #778 of 1392 🔗

Netflix, Facebook, Amazon Prime, PornHub, Strictly Come Dancing, bottle of wine and a daily antidepressant. Welcome to 2021.

413776 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 13, #779 of 1392 🔗

LOL… I’m loving some of these Guardian headlines in recent days. Oh, and the feeling is mutual 👍🏻

The Guardian: ‘I don’t want friends who put others at risk’: has lockdown wrecked friendships?.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/13/i-dont-want-friends-who-put-others-at-risk-has-lockdown-wrecked-friendships

413799 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Tom Blackburn, 4, #780 of 1392 🔗

I suggest responding by asking such to get rid of their cars in order to show sincerity – if not sense.

413805 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Tom Blackburn, 22, #781 of 1392 🔗

I don’t want friends who buy the Guardian.

413964 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Tom Blackburn, 8, #782 of 1392 🔗

Yes, it’s wrecked friendships.
Friendship with mindless zombies is impossible.
Friendship among mindless zombies is their affair.

414019 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Tom Blackburn, 5, #783 of 1392 🔗

Any “friend” who wants to put me at risk by mandating an experimental gene therapy or who thinks I should be denied access to services for choosing not to comply, is definitely no friend of mine! So I agree — I also don’t want friends who put others at risk.

413781 Sam Vimes, replying to Sam Vimes, 15, #784 of 1392 🔗

I’m thinking of crowd funding an ‘art installation’. It’s a model of WW1 and WW2 soldier’s graves. I need the money for the motorised gear that keeps the bodies turning…

413806 ▶▶ concrete68, replying to Sam Vimes, 3, #785 of 1392 🔗

That’s quite funny, although the truth is they died pointlessly doing what they were told just like the unfortunates on the other side…

413850 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to concrete68, 10, #786 of 1392 🔗

This is in fact WWIII – in 21st century style. in previous wars, ordinary people were brainwashed by the then global elites to present themselves as cannon fodder, serving geopolitical interests in which they had zero personal stake. Now they are brainwashed to present themselves for lethal injections, in the service of those same elites. Same result: a new world order emerges over rivers of blood and mountains of corpses.

413863 ▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to JaneHarry, 2, #787 of 1392 🔗

”Elites”? Surely oh surely we can find a different word that isn’t a compliment to these t*ssers?

413871 ▶▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #788 of 1392 🔗

This is correct.

WW3 is being fought via psychological, economic, media, and political means.

No need for those messy battlefields like the Somme or Kursk in our modern times.

413782 alw, replying to alw, 16, #789 of 1392 🔗

Ten texts, two letters from NHS imploring me to have vaccine. With one was able to reply to my GP that I wasn’t having. And now another letter this morning imploring me again to have a vaccine telling me evidence was that vaccine was safe. In recycling now.

Methinks there is not the take up of the vaccine that the government says there is. Pretend vaccine, pretend evidence.

413790 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to alw, 5, #790 of 1392 🔗

Yes its certainly looking that way. Every jab they give means £15 in their bank account.

413965 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Bella Donna, 5, #791 of 1392 🔗

NEVER trust a GP ever again.

I never go to the doctor and hate the NHShit, but if I did find myself requesting advice from one I would go onto the Great Barrington Declaration and if they didn’t sign it I wouldn’t trust anything they advise.

413797 ▶▶ kate, replying to alw, 10, #792 of 1392 🔗

I heard an interview on Radio 4 this morning. The expert admitted (when asked about the liklihood of mandatory vaccination) that only 60% of health care workers had been “vaccinated.” The implication was that the others were “hesitant.”

414014 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to kate, 3, #793 of 1392 🔗

The true heroes are the healthcare workers who are refusing the experimental gene therapy. Their bravery may save the rest of us.

413801 ▶▶ Lydia, replying to alw, 7, #794 of 1392 🔗

Yep, I think that not everyone is having the jab like they say. My mum has received three nhs letters now. I’ve told her to bin and ignore.

413891 ▶▶▶ davews, replying to Lydia, 1, #795 of 1392 🔗

Just one letter here so far. Round here the local centres are run by Berkshire Healthcare, the centres they offer you from the letter are run by NHS and the two don’t seem to talk to each other. The letter suggests you go 10 miles to Slough (no thankyou) rather than one mile to the local one. No phone calls yet to refuse and they don’t have my mobile number so can’t text me.

413918 ▶▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to davews, 2, #796 of 1392 🔗

Anecdotal, but I understand that a high proportion of care staff are from BAME backgrounds (certainly for the care homes in my market town many bus in and out from the nearby city), I wonder if their healthy scepticism is part of the issue but due to general woke-ness it has to be treated with kid gloves?

413958 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Fiona Walker, 1, #797 of 1392 🔗

We’ll just have to pump some of the good stuff into Hank Aaron and that should alter their black minds.

413982 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Lydia, 1, #798 of 1392 🔗

Back to feisty, Lydia. Good for you!

413842 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to alw, 7, #799 of 1392 🔗

surely there can’t be that many gullible fools left out there who are actually still afraid of Scam19, believing it to be a genuinely lethal virus, rather than the slight cold that it was quite a long time ago shown to be? [that’s if you still believe it exists at all as anything distinct from the usual seasonal respiratory illnesses] – so the ‘takers’ for the lethal injections will have to come from the ranks of those who are having their illegally confiscated freedoms dangled out to them, on condition of their compliance, and who are gullible enough to put their trust in this promise, and whose minds it never crosses that their government would be evil enough to actually murder them?

414028 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to alw, 2, #800 of 1392 🔗

Remember that old idea from Friends of the Earth (as I recall) – that of sending junk mail back to sender tied to a brick (ie to increase the weight of it – so that the sender would have to pay out rather more in postage to receive their mail back again)? Maybe food for thought…

414041 ▶▶ EllGee, replying to alw, #801 of 1392 🔗

Read somewhere yesterday that over two million are “missing”. Already onto over 65s here and there is an area of Sheffield that is doing over 50s

414049 ▶▶ Janette, replying to alw, 1, #802 of 1392 🔗

It’s funny isn’t it because theMSM would have you believe that the uptake is more than they anticipated. All mind control and more brainwashing

413792 BJs Brain is Missing, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 8, #803 of 1392 🔗

Let’s get this ‘anti-Covid-19 vaccine passport’ petition to a 100,000 folks. Almost there now.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957

413831 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 3, #804 of 1392 🔗

And this one (that’s been growing suspiciously slowly…)
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564347

413793 kate, replying to kate, 6, #805 of 1392 🔗

I am just reposting these two links here because they are so important. Apologies to whoever the original posters were

The links show that Health and Safety at Work regulations will be used to pressurise employers to effectively mandate vaccines on their workers.

And that vaccine passports are really coming.

https://www.cipd.co.uk/knowledge/fundamentals/emp-law/health-safety/preparing-for-covid-19-vaccination#gref

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/george-osborne-to-lead-a-normal-life-youll-need-a-covid-passport-heres-why/ar-BB1dwVYv?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ

413814 ▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to kate, 6, #806 of 1392 🔗

Im actually terrified

413867 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to kate, 4, #807 of 1392 🔗

The CIPD document is truly terrifying. It paves the way for no jab no job policy. The “vision” of CIPD is “ We want to create a world of work that’s more human. By changing hearts and minds about the purpose of work, the value of people and the role of people professionals, we’ll help ensure that work creates value for everyone.”

And yet their document goes into a great deal of detail about how vaccination of employees should be actively “encouraged” and that unvaccinated employees can be segregated or even dismissed. It is saying that employers have a duty to explain vaccine safety to their employees (are the qualified to do this?). Clearly employees have no ability to find out for themselves and no right to exercise their own judgement.

The key argument is this: “Ultimately, if their return (the unvaccinated) to the workplace could pose a threat to the wider workforce’s health and safety, employers may consider not allowing unvaccinated employees to return to the workplace. This entails a legal risk for the employer.”

413957 ▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to godowneasy, 3, #808 of 1392 🔗

They don’t discriminate if you are HIV positive but suddenly if you are unvaccinated you are? Good luck in the courts for those companies.

414006 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to godowneasy, 2, #809 of 1392 🔗

The legal risk to the employer should be damages paid to employees who are vaccine injured due to coercion. While the pharma companies and anyone involved in actually administering the “vaccine” are protected from liability, I don’t believe employers who mandate untested medical treatments are immune from legal liability. Of course that would depend on the courts not being captured.

413886 ▶▶ Alyse Glass, replying to kate, 3, #810 of 1392 🔗

This chills me to the bone. I am grateful I am now retired and no longer working as an HR professional as I think I would have ethical and moral issues with this policy.

414043 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to kate, 2, #811 of 1392 🔗

CIPD failed to look at the angle where the employee could take legal action against the employer should they in any way be negatively affected by such a jab.

Get them employer to sign a declaration to this effect, then get a report from the doctor to say that you are in good health as a baseline for future illness or death

413808 Lydia, replying to Lydia, 15, #812 of 1392 🔗

Sat watching the Liverpool vs Leicester match and I don’t think this deadly virus can touch footballers, they must be immune! Plenty of close contact, goal celebrations, hugging, they even spit! Have they had the vaccine?!

It annoys me because they can go train and play yet my two kids can’t go dancing play hockey or football and when they do return they have to social distance from others.

What a joke!

413813 ▶▶ p02099003, replying to Lydia, 6, #813 of 1392 🔗

Also the 6 nations rugby.

413815 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to p02099003, 7, #814 of 1392 🔗

Bread and circuses…….

414015 ▶▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to p02099003, 1, #815 of 1392 🔗

Kneeling twats. I’ll Never Watch Again.

413817 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to Lydia, 4, #816 of 1392 🔗

Ah yes, but whether they know it or not, they’re part of the elite. Not least to act as useful idiots when required.

413828 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Draper233, 1, #817 of 1392 🔗

Not ”elite”, Draper. Can’t we find another word to describe these arrogant and entitled plonkers?

413840 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Banjones, #818 of 1392 🔗

I have suggested “effete”, bit it does have connotations that are not quite right.

413868 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Draper233, #819 of 1392 🔗

I see them as tools, possibly well-trained pets of the elite that are used to placate, possibly even sedate the masses as required.

413826 ▶▶ p02099003, replying to Lydia, 4, #820 of 1392 🔗

My 5 year old granddaughter made her rainbow guide promise via zoom.

413844 ▶▶▶ Lydia, replying to p02099003, 3, #821 of 1392 🔗

So sad.

413830 ▶▶ mj, replying to Lydia, 5, #822 of 1392 🔗

week 1-7 feb premiere league covid testing
“2,970 players and club staff in total had been tested between Monday, February 1 and Sunday, February 7.
Of that number, only two returned positive results”

2 out of 2970. that is 0.067% testing positive . I’ll have whatever they are testing with. Sure as hell it isn’t PCR tests

or if they are using PCR tests, the cycle count must be so far below 25 that the test is actually only picking up people with a proper infection . Now there’s a novelty

413832 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Lydia, 9, #824 of 1392 🔗

And yet ordinary children (and adults) playing is where the real benefit to society is of sport.

The rest is just commerce, bread and circuses, and a bunch of elite freaks performing.

413858 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Mark, #825 of 1392 🔗

Not ”elite” in any sense. I’ll give you ”freaks” though.
I think you’ve just created an oxymoron.

413885 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Banjones, #826 of 1392 🔗

Duplicate post – deleted by user

413888 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Banjones, #827 of 1392 🔗

Elite does not have to be respect-worthy or morally good

elite
adjective [ before noun ] UK /iˈliːt/ US /iˈliːt/

belonging to the richest , most powerful , best-educated, or best-trained group in a society
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/elite

413903 ▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Mark, #828 of 1392 🔗

A definition of ”elite” being:

”a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society”

is how it’s often used. To describe the bunch who are issuing the diktats that are ruining our country and our lives as ”elite” seems nothing less than an insult to the rest of us. They’re hardly the ”best” of anything.

Your chosen definition, Mark, seems to be a compliment!

But it’s all just semantics and I daresay we can agree to differ – especially as we agree on so much else here!

413919 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Banjones, 2, #829 of 1392 🔗

As you say, it absolutely is just semantics. I agree that elite can be used with connotations of being morally better, it’s just that it doesn’t have to be and I rarely use it in that way.

These groups often are the best at doing particular things. Elite sportsmen are “best” (broadly speaking) at playing their sport, politicians are best at lying, etc. Doesn’t necessarily mean they are to be admired particularly for that.

413948 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Mark, #830 of 1392 🔗

Yeah, exactly.

413901 ▶▶ Suet, replying to Lydia, #831 of 1392 🔗

Having an interesting conversation with the other half while watching that. Klopp’s mother’s funeral was this week, but he couldn’t go. I reckon that could have been because he, or LFC, realised that it would have brought some appalling headlines. As he’s German and no doubt holds a German passport, of course he could have returned to his home country. On return here, he could self-isolate for the required ten days with little problem. Or maybe his employers put his attendance at the upcoming Chumps League game above his family obligations? Who knows, but I confess to feeling a bit sorry for him. He seems a decent bloke.

413906 ▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Suet, #832 of 1392 🔗

he would have had to quarantine in Germany as well for 10 or 14 days. as he is travelling from Britain, no option to leave earlier even with a negative test after 5 days.
The German authorities are very scared of Tommy flu.

413912 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Suet, #833 of 1392 🔗

Or maybe his employers put his attendance at the upcoming Chumps League game above his family obligations?

I’m pretty confident that Klopp could have gone without any meaningful sanctions from his employer (and probably with none) if he had chosen to do so.

If he chose not to, my guess is that it was his professionalism that made him choose not to. With the current fatuous restrictions, going to a funeral in Germany would have caused huge disruption to him doing his job for weeks.

Imo if that was the basis for his decision then it is worthy of respect (unlike the literally stupid restrictions that put him in that situation).

(I am no Liverpool fan, by the way – quite the contrary).

413925 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Lydia, 1, #834 of 1392 🔗

They do take stringent precautions and effectively the whole sport is a single bubble. But your point is still fair – after all, the safest place is clearly out in the open air – even T&T only triggers when you have been in the same place with someone for 15 minutes, so it takes prolonged close exposure – exactly what you get indoors in your own home, or in hospitals and care homes.

413986 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to redbirdpete, 1, #835 of 1392 🔗

I live near a few Premiership footballers (not the zillion pound ones in their mansions obviously but many just have a comfy detached near the training ground), and they are out and about; many are also married with little kids and their wives go shopping and coffee-ing. In fact just the other day the manager was in Morrisons and several people came up to him to congratulate and ask for selfies. They are also clearly all having their hair done. I suspect that the 0.67% is perhaps a true rate and the fictitious national rate reflects multi-testing of the same person, dead virus particles and false positives.

413810 isobar, replying to isobar, 17, #836 of 1392 🔗

‘New ‘do not resuscitate’ orders imposed on Covid-19 patients with learning difficulties’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/13/new-do-not-resuscitate-orders-imposed-on-covid-19-patients-with-learning-difficulties

Wouldn’t normally recommend a Grauniad story but this is truly shocking!

413838 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to isobar, 12, #837 of 1392 🔗

The charities have been silent throughout

413839 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to DanClarke, 9, #838 of 1392 🔗

Yes, absolute disgrace.

413944 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to DanClarke, 7, #839 of 1392 🔗

I will be leaving the United Kingdom as soon as I can.

I HATE my fellow Brit.

I have nothing in common with them.

414001 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #840 of 1392 🔗

Don’t come to Canada. We’re as bad or worse.

413846 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to isobar, 6, #841 of 1392 🔗

Are they actually attempting to kill these people? I would like to know where these DNR notices are being issued and under whose authority. The article doesn’t mention it. Surely the CQC has the power to put an immediate stop to it?

413873 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to godowneasy, 1, #842 of 1392 🔗

You would have thought so, they condemned the practice in December

413914 ▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to godowneasy, 5, #843 of 1392 🔗

At fear of invoking Godwin’s law, isn’t this exactly what Nazi Germany did under Aktion T4 ?

The fact that the Guardian do not complain about it actually reveals how utterly uncaring they and their readers are about anything but their own personal skins – exactly the opposite of what they try to allege – it’s them that are the selfish bastards, not those of us who believe unnecessary deaths are being caused by lockdowns and are prepared to risk our reputations in objecting.

413951 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to redbirdpete, 2, #844 of 1392 🔗

Sorry, didn’t see your comment before I posted mine. Good to see some one else had the same thought.

414104 ▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to godowneasy, 2, #845 of 1392 🔗

I think it’s because people with learning disabilities are already much more likely to die from covid than the average neurotypical person. Therefore they get lumped in with the very elderly/infirm for whom there’d be little benefit in resuscitation as it’d lead to greater suffering in a death that is inevitable in the near future anyway.
However the crucial difference is that people with learning disabilities don’t have as good outcomes because they aren’t in the best place to be advocates for themselves. As the article describes it – they aren’t very good at “badgering”. Anyone who has had any experience with the NHS knows that “badgering” is exactly how you have to be to get treatment.

413943 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to isobar, 3, #846 of 1392 🔗

The other day, I asked in these comments whether Aktion T4, the Nazi euthanasia programme, would have looked any different from present policies in the UK.

413818 isobar, replying to isobar, 2, #847 of 1392 🔗

COVID-19: ‘Optimistic’ Boris Johnson hints at how lockdown in England will be eased
http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-optimistic-boris-johnson-hints-at-how-lockdown-in-england-will-be-eased-12216907

Yeah right!

413824 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to isobar, 2, #848 of 1392 🔗

Well, isn’t that good of him?

Did he mention that it had anything to do with a virus, or has he forgotten that excuse? (I didn’t watch it.)

413837 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Banjones, 2, #849 of 1392 🔗

Don’t know, I didn’t watch it either; maybe this is a Valentines Day come on. Oops, almost forgot, sex between non-cohabiting couples is verboten. Especially if you drive out and meet up in a car park!

413827 ▶▶ Paulus, replying to isobar, #850 of 1392 🔗

Must be ok if Boris thinks this, his track record on these things makes Imperials modelling look accurate!

413836 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to isobar, 4, #851 of 1392 🔗

Gosh, thought it was all over now, people coming and going in my street all day

413822 John Galt, 9, #852 of 1392 🔗

Does anyone recollect any videos of anyone saying “the effects of lockdown are worse than the virus”, or something along those lines? I’m making another video, so if anyone can point me towards anyone saying something like that it’d be helpful.

Also, if you have any stories of people suffering because of the lockdown then that’d be great too. Thanks.

My other two videos:

Childhood – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5_lFo83PGk
Police – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-NeQsfGXTw

413823 p02099003, replying to p02099003, 7, #853 of 1392 🔗

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56052673 let Hancock et al vaccinate their children/grandchildren first.

413833 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to p02099003, 4, #854 of 1392 🔗

With the real juice, not saline.

413849 ▶▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to PastImperfect, #855 of 1392 🔗

It’s not saline, it’s a meningitis jab…

413997 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Fear is Finite, 1, #856 of 1392 🔗

I believe that’s true of the AstraZeneca vaccine trials but the Moderna and Pfizer trials used a saline placebo (only because Del Bigtree’s non-profit ICAN petitioned the CDC and forced a change in protocol).

414159 ▶▶▶▶▶ DoubtingDave, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 1, #857 of 1392 🔗

The High Wire, Del Bigtree’s weekly show is worth a watch, episode 202 this week is well worth a watch.

A new episode airs each Thursday.

413835 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to p02099003, 11, #858 of 1392 🔗

The Duke of Cambridge has a 7 year old and a 5 year old. The first can be volunteered immediately and the 5 year old is due to be 6 in May and can be volunteered then.

413907 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Ewan Duffy, 3, #859 of 1392 🔗

Also, all MPs. Get back to work.

414021 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Ewan Duffy, #860 of 1392 🔗

Yes good idea

413834 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #861 of 1392 🔗

Daily Mail: European snub Oxford vaccine after EU campaign cast doubts.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9256597/European-snub-Oxford-vaccine-EU-campaign-cast-doubts.html

413865 ▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #862 of 1392 🔗

Where is the journalism in this article? It literally says there’s no flu like side effects from the OAZ jab in the UK – anyone with half a brain knows that’s not true.

Mild ‘side effects’ including high temperatures and headaches have been reported by a small percentage of medical staff on the continent, despite there being no evidence of such occurrences in the UK, where the jab has been rolled out even more widely.

Lifted from the OAZ press release no doubt.

413876 ▶▶▶ davews, replying to Fear is Finite, 5, #863 of 1392 🔗

From talking to people and various online posts it seems these ‘mild side effects’ which lay you exhausted in bed for two days and with constant trips to the loo affect about 50% of people. Why is it being covered up.

413892 ▶▶▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to davews, 3, #864 of 1392 🔗

And didn’t the trials show side effects were worse after the second jabs? Maybe that’s why Imperial’s latest graphs of doom expect an early summer massacre.

414066 ▶▶▶▶ John001, replying to davews, #865 of 1392 🔗

Does anyone have the energy to ask a FoI question in the UK, i.e. what are the deaths and injuries for 1) Pfizer 2) AZ 3) any others?

The information requested is exactly analogous to what is probably regularly published in the USA by the CDC, i.e. under FoI laws.

The UK might as well have reverted to the Official Secrets Act.

413979 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #866 of 1392 🔗

So they are just going to love vaccine passports with that particular snake oil.

413847 Banjones, 7, #868 of 1392 🔗

I posted this yesterday – but it’s such a good potential poster for a village notice-board, I thought I’d share it again.

”THE DAY THE PEOPLE STOOD UP”

https://usercontent.flodesk.com/18362695-f9e0-4cfd-9424-36de88d15e58/upload/the-day-the-people-stood-up-2_62e437a4-3e84-44f1-8f7f-f0e79f92f5d6.pdf

413848 eastender53, replying to eastender53, 4, #869 of 1392 🔗

Having a discussion with a long time friend who, of course, got ‘the virus’ (felt just like flu but did a postal PCR which said you know what). I hqpp n d to mention that the Pfizer vaccine works on a cellular level and affects the DNA. I was promptly hit with a blizzard of ‘fact checks’ which allege it does no such thing. Now the very concept of a MSM fact Check s an oxymoron but I’d like to find somewhere a layman’s scientific explanation as to how the mRNA in the vaccine enters the cells of the recipient and ‘kids’ them into recognising the virus she po updated it arrive. Surely this must count as cell manipulation.

413860 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to eastender53, 4, #870 of 1392 🔗

I find it odd how there is virtually no discussion of how these mRNA jabs affect those with autoimmune conditions.

You’d think that would be a key subset of the research effort.

413864 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to awildgoose, 7, #871 of 1392 🔗

I have (had) such a condition and am not touching any of these experimental treatments with a bargepole

413894 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Julian, 5, #872 of 1392 🔗

I have no auto-immune illness, but I do have a range of conditions, and I too would not touch an under-tested vaccine (I probably wouldn’t even if I was fit – but definitely not as things are).

413954 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Julian, 6, #873 of 1392 🔗

Same. I already have an overactive immune system and am convinced these “vaccines” could kill me.

413877 ▶▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to awildgoose, 6, #874 of 1392 🔗

I also have AI issues, I know that we were excluded from the initial trials, so to all intents and purposes the mass rollout was a phase 1 trial for anyone with AI diseases. Despite this the online support groups I frequent are awash with people lining up to stick their arms out. I really don’t know what they’re thinking. I worked hard at my remission there’s no way I would jeopardise that. You also get immediately attacked for posting anything against the narrative. I made a very reasonable comment several months ago about thinking the collateral damage would be worse than Covid, and I immediately got accused of being a eugenicist 🙄 .

413889 ▶▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Fear is Finite, 3, #875 of 1392 🔗

I myself have seasonal allergies and psoriatic arthritis.

Neither condition inhibits my ability to avoid or fight off colds and the flu.

I manage both via proper diet, exercise, and sleep.

These mRNA jabs have me worried that my immune system will kill me with a cytokine storm or other devastating positive feedback loop.

413896 ▶▶▶▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to awildgoose, 3, #876 of 1392 🔗

Yep. I risk a thyroid storm, something that has a 20-30% fatality rate so a no brainer for me. I’ll take my chances with the rona (we actually had it in our house last March anyway, can’t prove it obvs).

413984 ▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to awildgoose, 2, #877 of 1392 🔗

Yup — I have allergic rhinitis, but also have inflammation from an overactive immune system that got triggered with pregnancy 24 years ago (long story). I work hard to keep myself in decent shape despite physical limitations, but I have also been able to overcome colds and I almost never get the flu. I also believe I’m a candidate for a cytokine storm with these “vaccines” and will never comply. There’s a decent chance I had Covid in December 2019 — crazy dry cough that I couldn’t shake. If so, my overactive immune system took care of it and I trust it to keep me “safe” without the use of experimental pharmaceutical products.

414047 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ davews, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 1, #878 of 1392 🔗

Thanks for reminding me of allergic rhinitis, with the nasal spray I have been on for years I had almost forgotten about it. And yes, I also had that dry cough December 2019.

413905 ▶▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Fear is Finite, 4, #879 of 1392 🔗

Let the NPCs fill their boots, the more of them that bare their arms and bleat for it, the less chance of the rest of us being mandated.

413917 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to awildgoose, 2, #880 of 1392 🔗

My sister-in-law had Lymes disease. Had the flu (not Covid) vaccine a couple of months ago. Been in severe joint pain ever since. Correlation is not causation, we know, but…

413989 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Bugle, 3, #881 of 1392 🔗

Those with Lyme disease are at increased risk from these Covid “vaccines.” If she’s got joint pain now, she’ll be in a world of pain if she takes the experimental gene therapy. I have chronic joint pain from an overactive immune system and won’t risk further damage. The problem is that people with issues think they’re at increased risk from Covid — and maybe they are — but they’re almost definitely at increased risk of vaccine injury as well. I hope she makes the connection and takes a pass on the experimental gene therapy.

413887 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to eastender53, 7, #882 of 1392 🔗

Genetic engineering is what it is. And that is not hyperbole.

413890 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to eastender53, 3, #883 of 1392 🔗

From Moderna. they specifically refer to mRNA technology as being comparable to a computer operating system.
https://www.modernatx.com/mrna-technology/mrna-platform-enabling-drug-discovery-development

413929 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 5, #884 of 1392 🔗

That’s why it ‘requires’ updates. I told my sister, if you wake up in the morning and your mind’s gone blank, you have to contact Bill for your update.

(Please don’t fact check me).

414008 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to eastender53, 1, #885 of 1392 🔗
  • The mRNA vaccine instructs your own cells on how to build a part of a protein that the virus has.
  • Your arm muscle cells will take up this mRNA and read the instructions, building a spike protein that also is on the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2)
  • Some of the spike protein shows in part or in whole on the surface of these cells
  • Your immune system recognizes that the protein is different. It starts to produce antibodies as well as trains immune cells to recognize it in the future
  • When your body next sees SARS-CoV-2, some antibodies will be there to start protecting immediately, and immune cells will be primed to increase that protection
414094 ▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 2, #886 of 1392 🔗

Thanks that makes sense. I can see now why they’re warning that in pregnant women the new antibodies might recognise the placenta as the wrong sort of protein. Why is any woman with the potential to bear children going to risk this?

414109 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 2, #887 of 1392 🔗

Any woman of child bearing age will have a negligible risk of being hospitalised let alone dying of Covid. So they just don’t need this risk. Course they may be pressurised at work to get jabbed or by selfish older family members and so on. Bother them.

413857 awildgoose, replying to awildgoose, 10, #888 of 1392 🔗

A fun story from a low quality source… Florida Governor DiSantis may have told Basement Joe to go reproduce himself after Florida was threatened with travel bans:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/biden-claims-he-can-prevent-people-from-traveling-state-to-state-with-fauci/

413978 ▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to awildgoose, 8, #889 of 1392 🔗

Why low quality?
Armstrong was jailed for not allowing the feds access to a potentially highly manipulative computer program.
Compared to the later stunts of Joepedo & co, that indicates higher quality ethics.

413874 alw, 5, #890 of 1392 🔗

Recovery
@T4Recovery
·
11 Feb

Lockdowns cost lives:

https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/25aa.svg @Ldn_Ambulance
attends 60% more suicides or attempted suicides per day than in 2019

https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/25aa.svg 25% more people had suicidal thoughts in L’down 1 (British Journal of Psychiatry study)

https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/25aa.svg 560,000 lives will be lost *because* of lockdowns say experts @BristolUni

😭 😭

413879 Bella Donna, replying to Bella Donna, 13, #891 of 1392 🔗

A must watch. Delores Cahill video about suing doctors, ministers under Malfeasance.

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=H935RMBH4BUN

413908 ▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Bella Donna, 3, #892 of 1392 🔗

Just to add…if you want a letter template so you can sue the pants off whoever then I’ve followed some links on an Aussie website to this…

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rtG0yLK8sDhywDt5xC7O4PzfV8e3a9BG/view

hope it might help a few of you….

413946 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Redundant Pilot, #893 of 1392 🔗

Thanks.

413881 eastender53, replying to eastender53, 9, #894 of 1392 🔗

Every cloud has a silver lining!

413899 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to eastender53, 5, #895 of 1392 🔗

They do the same thing with crime figures too. But people are more cynical about that.

413883 GrannySlayer, replying to GrannySlayer, 12, #896 of 1392 🔗

Latest from Kompromat Hancock:

“Covid CAN be managed like the flu”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9255903/Matt-Hancock-hopes-treatable-virus-disease-live-like-flu.html#newcomment

FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

413904 ▶▶ Ross Hendry, replying to GrannySlayer, 21, #897 of 1392 🔗

They’re on the run the little scumbags. Court cases are piling up worldwide.

414063 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Ross Hendry, 3, #898 of 1392 🔗

And rampant unemployment looming.

413947 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to GrannySlayer, 10, #899 of 1392 🔗

The problem with this is that the zealots think the flu has been eradicated due to anti-social distancing, sanitizing and mask wearing. Unfortunately, I think “managing the flu” has a completely different meaning in 2021 than it did in 2019. The tools of social control may be here to stay as the new way of preventing the flu.

413972 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 6, #900 of 1392 🔗

So how do they think Covid is spreading despite these measures? Even they must see the illogicality in that? No point in having a flu jab anymore then if it has been eradicated.

414085 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 4, #901 of 1392 🔗

They’re so stupid and suffering from cognitive dissonance that they don’t see that the same measures they believe have eradicated the flu haven’t done shit to eradicate Covid. Of course we see how illogical it is, but this worldwide mass hysteria is beyond logic.

414010 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 5, #902 of 1392 🔗

For Christ’s sake!

Why has the flu disappeared in Belarus and Swden then?

Why hasn’t the flu disappeared in Cambodia where nobody has died of ‘covid’

414018 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to GrannySlayer, 1, #903 of 1392 🔗

See my comment above!

414024 ▶▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to A. Contrarian, #904 of 1392 🔗

Good call. 🙂

413898 isobar, replying to isobar, 6, #905 of 1392 🔗

A follow up to an earlier posting.

This is interesting, note the bit about ‘learn to live with’ Covid. Follows on from Wancocks earlier statement today. Have they ditched the ‘zero covid’ option?

“Boris says he’s ‘optimistic’ about easing lockdown starting with schools in March and we will ‘learn to live with’ Covid – as leaked data shows hospitalisations falling much FASTER than expected”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9256565/Hopes-rise-end-lockdown-Covid-hospitalisations-fall-FASTER-expected.html

413913 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to isobar, 30, #906 of 1392 🔗

Ignoring the fact, isn’t he? that we could have ”learned to live with covid” nearly a year ago, and life wouldn’t have been disrupted in the slightest.

413916 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Banjones, 2, #907 of 1392 🔗

Yes, yes and yes!

413980 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to isobar, 5, #908 of 1392 🔗

And all it cost you was 10% drop in GDP. Fantastic result Boris

414203 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to mhcp, #909 of 1392 🔗

Plus 3x that in added on government debt….

413983 ▶▶ Annie, replying to isobar, 1, #910 of 1392 🔗

At least the words ‘learn to live with’ seem to indicate, just possibly, a faint spasm of sanity.

414016 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 7, #911 of 1392 🔗

This fits with what I said yesterday – I believe that last week was the final big push to get people to accept a Zero Covid policy. Lots of numpties came out claiming we’d need masks FOREVER, lockdown until 0.1 cases per billion etc etc. I don’t think it went down well. Hence this coming week will be all about learning to live with it and the economy bouncing back like a coiled spring, etc etc – just like this was the plan all along.

I think we might just have escaped within an inch of our lives…

414020 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #912 of 1392 🔗

I just so hope so!

414026 ▶▶▶ EllGee, replying to A. Contrarian, 3, #913 of 1392 🔗

Every finger crossed

414322 ▶▶▶ Marialta, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #914 of 1392 🔗

Somehow I think the fear and general compliance has gone too deep – even if Sage said tomorrow it’s not necessary to wear a mask people still would, they’re hooked on them and the drama.

I read a lot of encouraging posts about country walks amongst the maskless – but that crowd are outdoor types and dog walkers who are not representative of the majority of believers.

413910 Banjones, 13, #915 of 1392 🔗

Do sign the petition: ”Do not roll out vaccine passports”

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957

And this one: ” After the vaccine roll-out to high risk groups, remove ALL covid-19 restrictions”
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564347

413915 SimonCook, replying to SimonCook, 33, #916 of 1392 🔗

Good afternoon everyone

My wife has just returned home from her part-time job (a keyworker position within the kitchen) of a rather fancy retirement living complex in Henley-on-Thames.

Apparently, the young lady in the office (who happens to be a mask zealot) asked her this moring to provide her NHS number so “she can book her in for a vaccination”. Supposedly there is a work WhatsApp group that my wife isn’t in, and this same lady has been asking all members of staff to provide their numbers.

Needless to say, she’ll just bin off the job if she has to, although this behaviour from the company strikes me as outrageous.

For starters, I’m printing out the following from The Council of Europe’s recent legislation and make sure that it goes to their head office:

https://pace.coe.int/en/files/29004/html

7.3 with respect to ensuring high vaccine uptake:
7.3.1 ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is NOT mandatory and that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to get themselves vaccinated, if they do not wish to do so themselves;
7.3.2 ensure that no one is discriminated against for not having been vaccinated, due to possible health risks or not wanting to be vaccinated;

Kindest regards

Simon

413926 ▶▶ Mark, replying to SimonCook, 11, #917 of 1392 🔗

This kind of intrusive presumptiveness on an employer’s part is highly annoying, at the least, even if you don’t regard the vaccine itself as necessarily any worse than unnecessary.

413991 ▶▶ FenTyger, replying to SimonCook, 9, #918 of 1392 🔗

Never seen an employment contract that stipulates giving personal information like your NHS number. What if she was selling the jabs/number on to a third party? What next your VISA number and PIN?

414017 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to SimonCook, 3, #919 of 1392 🔗

How politely – or otherwise – did your wife tell the little madam where to get off?

414135 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to ElizaP, 2, #920 of 1392 🔗

Hi Eliza,

She said she doesn’t know her number and actually laughed. She couldn’t actually believe what she was being asked

Best regards

Simon

414086 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to SimonCook, 2, #921 of 1392 🔗

Aside from any of the actual vaccination stuff, they shouldn’t be sharing personal data on a social messenger group. Presumably this is their personal phones and numbers?

If I was your friend I’d get in first and complain to HR that people have been doing this. Attack is best form of defence and all that.

414129 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 1, #922 of 1392 🔗

Thanks, SweetBabyCheeses

As you say the GDPR implications alone have almost certainly been broken.

Apparently, the majority of staff are already booked in for Monday somewhere in Marlow.

We are working out what to do next over some good coffee – we just watched (again) the great video with Reiner Fuellmich & Tamir Turgal.

https://youtu.be/euSqObr6emM

414142 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 3, #923 of 1392 🔗

yeh, fuck the bitch over on the Data Protection Act. Sue the company into bankruptcy

414125 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to SimonCook, 1, #924 of 1392 🔗

asked her this moring to provide her NHS number

That’s a “No!” Your NHS number is for use by you and the NHS only; it’s NOT any business of your employer.

414132 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to Ceriain, #925 of 1392 🔗

Thanks, Ceriain, and yes you’re completely right. Thankfully she’s no idea what is and told the lady so.

413923 albert hall, #926 of 1392 🔗
413936 Tom Blackburn, #927 of 1392 🔗

Roll up, Roll up. Get your vaccines.

413937 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 10, #928 of 1392 🔗

Of course these fuck faces are sounding more optimistic there planing there exit strategy to save there worthless skin.. expect more good news as spring approaches they no full well this lockdown is a farce and if not for the weather would have completely collapsed.. expect a new Bank holiday to be announced shortly “victory over covid day.” They need to start covering there tracks damage limitation is the name of the game.. after all the pessimistic news people will swallow the new found hope with glee, the saviour has come down from high and hopefully all will be forgiven..

413962 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 15, #929 of 1392 🔗

People, especially the vaccinated golden oldies, will be demanding let alone expecting to go on holiday this year. They will also expect to be able to see people and go out to pubs, cafes and restaurants, and visit attractions again. After all they could do this last summer before they were jabbed. These are also essential for the tourist trade to support the hotels – if you stay in a hotel somewhere nice you need to have stuff to go to. All this new variant crap is already running thin as our so-called Covid death rate is way higher than that of South Africa and Brazil, and Kent isn’t full of corpses any more than anywhere else in the UK is.

My weekend walk today (an extended 8 miles as all the usually muddy footpaths were frozen solid so passable) was great with very few swervers, muzzloids or stepasiders. Lots of cheery hellos and smiles, normal distancing and plenty of folk out. Helped capture an adorable puppy that had made a bid for freedom (I know the feeling.) All these people are NOT afraid of variant this, that and the other even if they are ostensibly on message.

414228 ▶▶▶ CGL, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 1, #930 of 1392 🔗

I saw an interview last weekend with Baroness Claire Fox and Naomi Wolf – Baroness Fox made your point. The oldies who have been vaccinated have got plans! They are expecting to be going out and seeing their kids and grandkids – who is going to stop them!

Here it is:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nCX973sfpA&feature=youtu.be

414250 ▶▶▶▶ Alice, replying to CGL, 2, #931 of 1392 🔗

Remember what Jabba Van Tam said about older people rushing off to bingo? I don’t think I can ever forgive him for those patronising remarks!

414057 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 3, #932 of 1392 🔗

That’s just how I see it. Keep up the good work!

413960 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 15, #934 of 1392 🔗

A friends poor old uncle 74 mild dementia, got jabbed, had seizures, went to hospital, got tested, got covids, got viral pnumonia, released back home to DIE. They almost seem excited about the propest and can’t wait for him to shuffle off.

He got bacterial pnomonia. For the last two weeks every day they have been almost WILLING it to be his last but he keeps waking up and having breakfast. He is just so disobedient. They just couldn’t wait to put him on palliative care, that was about 4 days ago but he is still here.

Perhaps if they had tried a bit harder at keeping him alive than helping him die he might be in much better shape now.

Poor old Uncle Bob. (not his real name)

414505 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 1, #935 of 1392 🔗

Uncle “Bob” died tonight.

414218 ▶▶ CGL, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 1, #936 of 1392 🔗

I know first hand of someone whose 32 year old child in care had a DNR slapped on them. The parents only found out because one of the carers told them – they weren’t consulted or notified officially. The person is unsurprisingly no longer in care!
It’s not just old people this has been happening to by any means.
But hey all lives are important aren’t they – that’s what we’ve been told isn’t it?

413945 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 19, #937 of 1392 🔗

Herd immunity will defeat this virus as it has done for thousands of years but governments all over the world aided by the advisers and experts who write the history books will claim that it was because of the measures they took.
Lockdown sceptics will have to ensure that the truth will be passed down through the generations: That THEY LIED!!!

414309 ▶▶ Marialta, replying to Fingerache Philip, 1, #938 of 1392 🔗

Well put….. we must live up to this and not fade away if the hysteria does finally subside in a few years. The legacy will last many years. I for one will not ever forget this abomination.

413949 Redundant Pilot, replying to Redundant Pilot, 18, #939 of 1392 🔗

With regards to the Oxford Vaccine group advertising for little kids to be their test subjects, there is a form on the NSPCC website where you can report child abuse….

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/reporting-abuse/report/report-abuse-online/

suggest we all report them! Bastards!

413990 ▶▶ Liz F, replying to Redundant Pilot, 6, #940 of 1392 🔗

I wonder if Boz and Handcock will be happy for their children to receive the vaccine?

413996 ▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Liz F, 7, #941 of 1392 🔗

They should be made to be first in the queue.

I’ve reported the Oxford Uni lot for child abuse….

414046 ▶▶▶▶ Liz F, replying to Redundant Pilot, 4, #942 of 1392 🔗

Well done, what they’re doing is beyond appalling.

413952 Matt The Cat, replying to Matt The Cat, 3, #943 of 1392 🔗

Christ Almighty. Look at the pic of the Pig Dictator Yeltsin on the beeb’s front page … What a bloody state!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

413967 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Matt The Cat, 8, #944 of 1392 🔗

wow just a small click onto the BBC’s web page is instant eye trauma isn’t it?

413973 ▶▶▶ Paul, replying to Two-Six, 6, #945 of 1392 🔗

That’s what I thought too,I haven’t looked at it for months,no wonder the sheep are terrified.

413977 ▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Paul, 6, #946 of 1392 🔗

It really is quite an “eye-opener”…It’s been like this on every MSM outlet for a whole year. No wonder people are insane.

413974 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Matt The Cat, 5, #947 of 1392 🔗

Look at his eyes, he’s gone.

414002 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Matt The Cat, 1, #948 of 1392 🔗

Haha

414007 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Matt The Cat, 6, #949 of 1392 🔗

“potato in a wig” – Katie Hopkins

414009 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Matt The Cat, 2, #950 of 1392 🔗

This is quite big news however – he’s basically coming out against Zero Covid, for today anyway.

414029 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Matt The Cat, 4, #951 of 1392 🔗

I just can’t do it sorry, instinctually self-preservation prevents me from clicking any bbc link.

414051 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #952 of 1392 🔗

Don’t blame you, complete quislings throughout!

414033 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Matt The Cat, 12, #953 of 1392 🔗

From that article… Mr Hancock told the Daily Telegraph that he hoped new drugs by the end of 2021 could make Covid a “treatable disease”, and one that we live with “like we do the flu”.
HCQ/Zinc/AZT and Ivermectin have been proven out in the field to treat the disease last year you mendacious monster! Why would endemic Covid be any worse than endemic flu anyway?

414076 ▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 2, #954 of 1392 🔗

I will actually concede that I think covid may have a higher fatality rate than flu. Unless that can be explained by it affecting the elderly/vulnerable more so than flu. HOWEVER, it’s not impossible to actually tell because the stats are so fcuked up. It’s almost impossible to examine actual data on patients who defo have covid because it immediately gets clouded with all the “asymptomatic cases”, deaths within 28 days of a positive test etc.

414122 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 2, #955 of 1392 🔗

As you say with all the dishonest reporting of causes of deaths it is impossible to make a good call on relative IFRs but now Covid is an endemic disease there will be sufficient population immunity to make it much less of an issue than the first epidemic. Even with that though there are serious questions: why was the April death spike so late in the season (beta-Coronavirus season is normally Dec-Feb) ? We know a big proportion of that spike (40%?) was caused by withdrawing medical care from the oldest and frailest people and also seeding care homes with the infected. A similar spike in N. Italy correlates with a high pollution event (and also with a bad reaction to the flu jab) – SE England had an intense spell of high pollution in early April. The jury isn’t so much out as not having even been summonsed yet.

414131 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, #956 of 1392 🔗

Scam19 doesn’t even exist.

414321 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 1, #957 of 1392 🔗

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/10/asthma-drug-budesonide-may-reduce-risk-severe-covid-if-taken-early-study
Asthma drug may reduce risk of severe Covid if taken early – study
Inhaled budesonide could become first treatment in early stages of infection if study confirmed

414082 ▶▶ Skippy, replying to Matt The Cat, 3, #958 of 1392 🔗

Brushed his hair like a cunt again? A 70s porno snatch

414090 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to Skippy, 2, #959 of 1392 🔗

Toffee apple for a comb

413956 Basics, 9, #960 of 1392 🔗

important update
Dr Reiner Fuellmich CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
court cases being brought.
worth listening.

https://vimeo.com/498442220

413971 Boris Bullshit, replying to Boris Bullshit, 18, #961 of 1392 🔗

Hitchens v Hodges

Just watched the debate on you tube. My impressions are that Hitchens went out of his way to be reasonable and have a civilised debate (I think he tried too hard). Hodges had no such scruples though and repeatedly tried to smear Hitchens as a ‘lockdown denier’ which probably lowered himself in the eyes of neutral observers.

The most satisfying part of the debate though was the last minute in which Hodges was completely destroyed by Hitchens quoting an extract from a Hodges article from last March in which he said pretty much what Hitchens is saying now.

413998 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Boris Bullshit, 11, #962 of 1392 🔗

The difference is Hitchens is a gentleman and Hodges is an uncouth oaf.

414031 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Bella Donna, 10, #963 of 1392 🔗

Also PH cares about winning an argument properly

It’s had 135,000 views, hardly any downvotes and all the comments say that PH won the debate easily

414050 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Boris Bullshit, 7, #964 of 1392 🔗

I don’t even understand how anyone can be a “lockdown denier”. The slur does not compute. It’s all around us, every day.

414087 ▶▶▶ Draper233, replying to leggy, 4, #965 of 1392 🔗

Presumably he means people who believe lockdowns to be ineffective or unnecessary.

414108 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to leggy, 4, #966 of 1392 🔗

I thought the same…it makes no sense….I wish I could bloody deny it and end it once and for all. Hodges came across as a bit sly and seedy and clearly does not have the character to remain outside the conventional wisdom for long….Glenda produced a mummy’s boy there.

The Hodges in Dads Army had more character…at least he always went for a swim!

414290 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Boris Bullshit, #967 of 1392 🔗

I always remember the scene in Dad’s Army where Hodges goes off on a rant, saying something like ‘I never want this war to end, because for the first time in my life people have got to do what I tell them!’

413992 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 5, #968 of 1392 🔗

Ireland’s Zero Covid cult has its own website and twitter page. https://www.wecanbezero.com https://twitter.com/WeCanBeZero
But these guys can’t even write a proper paragraph – from the top of their website – “How can we reach # CovidZero ?
CRUSH – Suppress Covid infections now to single digits or better. This means a short, effective lockdown of two incubation cycles – 4 to 6 weeks, if done well – with an initial aim of fewer than 10 new cases per day. Why this number? Fewer than 10 cases per day means that the contact tracing system can hunt those down and contain them, aiming to eliminating those as well.

Try harder you morons. I’m convinced these people want to permanently prohibit all forms of human contact forever. And to think that some of them have children!

Wecanbezero – Zero COVID = zero humanity.

414022 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to godowneasy, 4, #969 of 1392 🔗

Grim. It’s got a lot of backing in Ireland, they’ll need a hard border to make it work. Psychos

414036 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to godowneasy, 1, #970 of 1392 🔗

Just give them the Blasket Islands and forget about them.

414059 ▶▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 2, #971 of 1392 🔗

Send the basket cases to the Blasket Isles.

414181 ▶▶ ituex, replying to godowneasy, #972 of 1392 🔗

But you’re already in lockdown in Ireland.

413994 dommo, replying to dommo, 28, #973 of 1392 🔗

NHS – can you look us in the eyes and say “NOSOCOMIAL”???

Cunts

414003 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to dommo, 15, #974 of 1392 🔗

About a third of those sad-eyed actors are in those oxygen masks because of NHS incompetence. Look them in the eyes and tell them you are doing all you can to stop the spread of Covid-19, Sir Simon Stevens.

414038 ▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 14, #975 of 1392 🔗

Why are they not giving people Ivermectin. The NHS has blood in their hands.

414230 ▶▶ Old Bill, replying to dommo, 3, #976 of 1392 🔗

“NOTSOCOMICAL”

NHS=No help service.

413995 Bella Donna, 8, #977 of 1392 🔗
414000 Margaret, replying to Margaret, 48, #978 of 1392 🔗

Yesterday OH and I received a text message from our doctor’s surgery, inviting us to book our “jab”. This took us by surprise as I am 66 and OH is a year older. Have they jabbed all the over 70s already or are many people not taking up the offer?

We discussed it of course. OH is keen to travel abroad again and is worried about vaccination passports but we both know that foreign travel for us is unlikely this year anyway.

We are going to take a leaf out of the book of another poster here a few days ago, who told the doctor that they were waiting for the “human trials” to be completed before they had the jab!

414012 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Margaret, 11, #979 of 1392 🔗

Good plan! End of January 2023.

414056 ▶▶▶ BTLnewbie, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 3, #980 of 1392 🔗

Will the trials ever be completed?
AIUI, both the vaccinated and the control groups have now been offered the vaccine, so how can they compare and contrast the 2 groups?

414172 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to BTLnewbie, 1, #981 of 1392 🔗

That’s a good point on a macro scale – I just hope they have a good sized list of all age groups who have agreed to not be jabbed so as to act as the control. Most likely they couldn’t give a damn now they are indemnified and the MHRA have nodded it through on their tea-break.

414027 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Margaret, 6, #982 of 1392 🔗

I spoke to someone in London who is in her 50s and was offered it – not someone in a “vulnerable” group.

414416 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Julian, #983 of 1392 🔗

Seems that loads of Londoners in the older groups are turning it down, could be BAME effect closely linked to common sense.

414035 ▶▶ Biggles, replying to Margaret, 4, #984 of 1392 🔗

I will be 68 next week and Mrs B has just turned 65. In the last week we have had text messages about the jab and will apparently be receiving letters in the next few days.

414045 ▶▶ CapLlam, replying to Margaret, 3, #985 of 1392 🔗

In my area they are doing groups 5 & 6 , my mum got her letter today to invite her

414473 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to Margaret, #986 of 1392 🔗

I agree that with travel being made so difficult for the next year or so and this being the primary incentive to be vaxxed, I don’t see the point of being a guinea pig in their experiment. I too will hold off until at least next year as see the fallout from the adverse reaction and passport scheme etc

414011 rockoman, replying to rockoman, 43, #987 of 1392 🔗

A society full of people too scared to live will not survive.

Nor does it deserve to.

414206 ▶▶ CGL, replying to rockoman, 2, #988 of 1392 🔗

But why should we go with them?

414258 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to CGL, 2, #989 of 1392 🔗

We won’t , but our society has proven that it doesn’t deserve to survive.

Therefore, our aim is to save ourselves and those we love.

414023 Andrew K, replying to Andrew K, 39, #990 of 1392 🔗

I wonder what the bedwetting English cricketers are thinking right now. They abandoned the South Africa Tour because they shit themselves over a few SA cricketers going to a BBQ and now they are in India, no lockdowns hardly any face mask use, packed non anti socially distanced cricket stadium. They are probably thinking have government lied to us!

YES YOU FUCKING PLANKS.

Be intereting to think what the watching public back home are thinking, why aren’t they dropping dead!!!

414224 ▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Andrew K, 12, #991 of 1392 🔗

Hi Andrew I thought I would reply as I have just recently finished watching the recorded highlights of day 1.

What did I think? Well to be honest I felt like crying.

Crying with joy because for the first time in a year I witnessed normal human behaviour – Captain’s shaking hands, crowds hugging each other and jointly waving huge banners, hardly any masks, no ‘distancing’ and no BLM shite either. It was all too wonderful to behold after such a hiatus of continual miserableness.

Then I felt like crying in anger because in the world where I live such behaviour is illegal, yes ILLEGAL, that is EFFING ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then I felt like crying for more prosaic reasons.

Firstly we are pretty certain to lose on that pitch batting second.

Secondly for the first time in what seems an age, we have a proper wicket keeper behind the stumps who is a joy to behold, but will almost certainly be dropped after we lose inside 3 days and replaced with some bit part player.

I don’t think of myself as one of the planks that you refer to, but I share the sentiments you espoused with a vehemence equal to your own.

414030 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 3, #992 of 1392 🔗

‘Welsh firebreak’ – something utterly pointless

414287 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to steve_w, 1, #993 of 1392 🔗

Is that something for English holiday cottage owners in Wales?

414034 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 33, #994 of 1392 🔗

What pub or restaurant is ever going to let Ferguson, Whitty, Valance, Spector etc in? They wanted hospitality destroyed. Let them stay at home and eat pot noodles

414037 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to steve_w, 3, #995 of 1392 🔗

I would like to meet them in a pub and congratulate them on their activity so far!

414067 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to TheClone, 3, #996 of 1392 🔗

Pubs and restaurants need lists and IDs of the culprits. Like they do for local trouble makers. Let them back in after 10 years when they’ve learned their lesson

414089 ▶▶▶▶ John001, replying to steve_w, 3, #997 of 1392 🔗

Spector’s situation could be resolved by restoring academic tenure (abolished in UK 1988). I think Canada, USA, Germany and probably other countries still have it for most academics, well those beyond the age of 30 or 40. It’s also called academic free speech, aka pay academics a decent salary and allow them to get on with their research or study without jumping through further hoops every 3-5 years. ‘Industrial funding’ is then optional.

In the UK, no-one whose job is at risk will go against the prevailing narrative. Spector had a funding bid rejected, i.e. warning shot across his bows.

He seems to be 62 so he probably plans to work after 65 and has had to tone down his wording to have any future prospects.

Heneghan is also a GP. Maybe the income from that part of his work provides him with enough security to speak up.

414100 ▶▶▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to John001, #998 of 1392 🔗

Spector is no fan of human rights. He wanted to give the Tiers more time before going into lockdown. Given the 30 years International development has gone back, I think people should say what they think and sod their careers

414449 ▶▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to steve_w, #999 of 1392 🔗

I’m sure Digital IDs will help hospitality venues keep them out.

414077 ▶▶▶ Skippy, replying to TheClone, 1, #1000 of 1392 🔗

Indeed. Shake them by the neck, vigorously

414091 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to TheClone, 3, #1001 of 1392 🔗

With a fucking machete

414065 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to steve_w, 5, #1002 of 1392 🔗

Hope all such establishments in Cornwall have barred the Hancocks in advance of their holidays.

414147 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to steve_w, 1, #1003 of 1392 🔗

Pot noodles are too good for them.

414184 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to steve_w, 2, #1004 of 1392 🔗

That assumes they have friends, or ever go out to socialise.

414285 ▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to LMS2, #1005 of 1392 🔗

Yes. I get the impression the SAGE types don’t do much of that.

414048 Prof Feargoeson, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 10, #1006 of 1392 🔗

They’re having to rapidly move down the age band to find useful idiots.

414064 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 19, #1007 of 1392 🔗

I hate all the “painless” comments like they think that a needle is actually why people are put off from having it.

414095 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 6, #1008 of 1392 🔗

This kind of unquestioning acceptance is also going to make it very hard for the unvaccinated to get into a care home (like her mother) going forward to see their aged loved ones.

414283 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 3, #1009 of 1392 🔗

I don’t understand why people say things like ‘I can’t see my mum’. Even if one obeys the rules strictly to the letter, one can still form a bubble with a single household.

414070 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 10, #1010 of 1392 🔗

This is the language of someone who has just had a religious experience.

414194 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to awildgoose, 2, #1011 of 1392 🔗

She, and most others, had one since March 2020.

414107 ▶▶ Paul, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 8, #1012 of 1392 🔗

Yet another over paid,under talented member of the media/political self-styled elite that has systematically destroyed the fabric of this country over the past two decades,just go and fuck yourself.

414119 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 20, #1013 of 1392 🔗

I hate this country, where I now feel like a foreigner, marooned in a culture/religion which I can neither understand nor respect

414183 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to JaneHarry, 3, #1014 of 1392 🔗

We live in different realities. We have a completely different value system. There is little common ground.
It resembles the ideological split in America.

414469 ▶▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to JaneHarry, #1015 of 1392 🔗

me too!

414468 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #1016 of 1392 🔗

god the gushing thanks just makes me want to puke! hope this individual gets a severe adverse reaction and then will be cursing!

414053 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 15, #1017 of 1392 🔗

this seems so long ago now!

414081 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to steve_w, 3, #1018 of 1392 🔗

Good old Clippy! Haven’t seen him or his friends (the Puppy was one!) since about 2002 lol. Good joke. Rank amateurs.

414055 steve_w, 6, #1019 of 1392 🔗

just clearing off my desktop

414058 Silke David, replying to Silke David, 8, #1020 of 1392 🔗

BBC article People at Heathrow airport are so stupid:

A spokesman said: “We have been working hard with the government to try to ensure the successful implementation of the policy from Monday (15th Feb), but some significant gaps remain.
“Ministers must ensure there is adequate resource and appropriate protocols in place for each step of the full end-to-end process from aircraft to hotel to avoid compromising the safety of passengers and those working at the airport.”

So, anyone arriving from these countries today or the last week is not “dangerously infective” and can walk through and linger in the airport as much as they want, but from Monday they are so dangerous they need to be separated and contained?

414078 ▶▶ Draper233, replying to Silke David, 4, #1021 of 1392 🔗

How does this scheme work in relation to pilots and cabin crew? They obviously can’t quarantine for days after each shift.

414088 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Draper233, 8, #1022 of 1392 🔗

Covid don’t bother with flight crew sage has said so follow the science

414060 leggy, replying to leggy, 3, #1023 of 1392 🔗

UK gov digital ID plans. Now we’re starting to get to the nitty gritty. Note that there is an option to provide feedback.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-sets-out-new-plans-to-help-build-trust-in-use-of-digital-identities

414069 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to leggy, 3, #1024 of 1392 🔗

Biometrics will justify governments obsession with 5G!

414080 ▶▶▶ Kat, replying to Anti_socialist, 10, #1025 of 1392 🔗

I don’t want a digital identity or to have my details accessed by numerous third parties. It’s like giving your personal information to the first stranger you meet and asking them to look after it for you.

414093 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Kat, 13, #1026 of 1392 🔗

Oh! it’s a lot more than that, it gives greater control over you and me. Cancel culture? You ain’t seen nothing yet, acquaint yourself with chinas social credit score system.

414074 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to leggy, 12, #1027 of 1392 🔗

Anyone remember that data disc that went missing with millions of peoples personal info, under Gordon Brown, did it ever turn up?

I don’t want a digital economy!

414164 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Anti_socialist, 5, #1028 of 1392 🔗

Sunak is very pro digital currency, another reason why he should not be chancellor.

414191 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #1029 of 1392 🔗

Wait until your bank and the land registry etc. have gone full blockchain.
If you forget or lose your
password then, or get hacked, you immediately lose your house, shares, pension fund etc..
Without any legal recourse availability, as ownership has been replaced by and become identical with possession then and thereby.
The developers body threw out the lawyers they hired who realized the problem and tried to advise on a backup solution after just a few months, saying they’re
not interested anymore.

414208 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to JayBee, 6, #1030 of 1392 🔗

I don’t have a bank account! I don’t have a smart phone! You only own it if you can hold it in your hand. GOLD!

Yes life isn’t easier without a bank account, I don’t value easy, I value privacy, anonymity is freedom.

414121 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to leggy, 8, #1031 of 1392 🔗

How many people will not have any idea this is where things are heading? I am called a dinosaur as I limit use of technology and do not use the social media, I am not surprised there is not more kickback to the move to digital ID’s. The reason why in my opinion is so many people have the likes of Alexa in their homes, keep their mobiles on all the time with bluetooth/GPS enabled and will happily use “smart” home technology, they are so used to using “gadgets” and either have no idea how their digital ID is being used or do not care.

414127 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to Cumbriacracked, 6, #1032 of 1392 🔗

What until the sheople find out that their internet browsing history and social media posts will affect their social credit rating.

414149 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to stefarm, 2, #1033 of 1392 🔗

And then they will bleat very loudly and wonder how it happened.

414139 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Cumbriacracked, 5, #1034 of 1392 🔗

Smartphones are a state surveillance device they’ve tricked us to pay for!

414152 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #1035 of 1392 🔗

Yes and many want the latest upgrades, preparing to pay stupid money for them!

414180 ▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #1036 of 1392 🔗

To be honest I’m tired of it. I don’t have FB anymore (left 3 years ago). It’s an echo chamber. This site has a comment section like we had 20 years ago.
I only use specific apps on my phone.

The whole push for digital IDs and all that jazz will just be more ineptitude piled on top of the current waste. I don’t use Alexa even though I do use a lot of Amazon Web Services. Don’t need it.

I don’t stream music. I download or have ripped my all LPs and records.

I grew up before the internet started and saw it grow. We’ve gone full cycle and are seeing the emergence of new technologies after the grand consolidation.

Plus ca change

414202 ▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #1037 of 1392 🔗

If they can’t get up and press a fucking button on a radio, they deserve to die.
(other than people who really can’t do so, obviously)

414263 ▶▶ Tenchy, replying to leggy, 1, #1038 of 1392 🔗

Chilling stuff. Here’s the full report:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework

Here’s some of the jargon used in the summary:

rules of the road

inclusivity

best practice

vouching

unleash the future potential of our digital economy

we want industry, civil society groups and the public to make their voices heard

we can build back better and fairer from the pandemic

stakeholders

This will help give people confidence that particular service protects their data and privacy

Here’s an example they give:

Sarah is in the queue for a nightclub and the door security guard [bouncer] asks for [demands] her ID. Instead of showing her passport, which contains lots of personal information, she instead uses her already created digital identity. She signs in on her phone using secure biometric authentication and shows the QR code to the security guard. The security guard can then scan this code, see it is a valid identity, and receive confirmation that Sarah is over 18 years old, without seeing any more details such as her date of birth or address.

Yes, the above example is really secure. LOL!

414062 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 7, #1039 of 1392 🔗

“Covid-19 pandemic: China ‘refused to give data’ to WHO team”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-56054468

The most parsimonious explanation is the virus came from the lab – unless it can be proved otherwise

414084 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to steve_w, 4, #1040 of 1392 🔗

Or perhaps the ‘earliest cases’ had no virus.

Perhaps they were victims of a pollution incident in Wuhan.

That would also explain the reluctance to give up data.

414098 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to steve_w, 2, #1041 of 1392 🔗

It is not as if China will be bothered by any BBC article having banned them!

414072 liztr835, replying to liztr835, 38, #1042 of 1392 🔗

Just listening to Talk Radio, I want to be sick, talking about the benefits of the lockdown financially for huge amounts of people who are much richer, have loads more money in the bank, they have saved on meals out, coffees out, some of which are from small businesses who really need the custom. There I am just having paid a massive tax bill to shower people with thousands of pounds of my money, and I get nothing being excluded, but they get to boost their savings!!!!!! for gods sake, do these people have no empathy.
I don’t mind adding to the pot to help those in need but not to boost someone’s savings account or to buy them a new kitchen/car.

414097 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to liztr835, 12, #1043 of 1392 🔗

It certainly has shown how selfish some people can be, they are fine so their opinions are either everyone else must be or they do not care about others. Either way amounts to the same thing.

414102 ▶▶ RickH, replying to liztr835, 2, #1044 of 1392 🔗

You may be misreading (although I didn’t hear the Talk Radio slant – perhaps they did put a stupid spin on it).

But it’s just a fact – the enforced closure of small businesses means that money is not circulating in a normal manner, and not leaving savings accounts. But that’s down to the Tory government, not those who are not spending in the usual way.

Be very wary of diversions engineered by the Tories.

414117 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to RickH, 7, #1045 of 1392 🔗

Sorry yes I read it as people being better off due to the lockdown rather than money not circulating.

For every business which has suffered there are people who have financially saved a lot of money.

Lockdown needs to finish now, a low tax policy adopted to encourage people to spend in order to help those businesses suffering and also to use up the extra savings people have.

Businesses who have survived also need to understand about making customers and other businesses who trade with them actually welcome. Some businesses even though struggling financially have been so nasty due to “the deadly virus” they almost do not deserve to survive however I would not wish that on any business.

414145 ▶▶▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Cumbriacracked, 7, #1046 of 1392 🔗

Those making customers queue outside in sub zero temperatures will get a permanent ban from me. I would never queue for any shop or bank for that matter but I will remember who not to give my custom in future.

414158 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to nottingham69, 6, #1047 of 1392 🔗

I totally agree, there are a list of businesses where we will not support due to how they treated not just husband and I but others. We cannot support every local business but it is a good way to work out which ones we will. A year ago I would not have had the guts to tell them why but now I will happily say if I get the chance to.

414277 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Cumbriacracked, 4, #1048 of 1392 🔗

I reserve my greatest ire for those local businesses who were legally allowed to carry on but who chose to close, in a flurry of virtue signalling about ‘new variants’ etc. I can understand most people, even sceptics, feel they should stay within the law, but I can’t accept those who go above and beyond the requirements of the law.

414166 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to RickH, 4, #1049 of 1392 🔗

It’s a statement of fact.There are millions of people who have not been impacted financially yet.Further millions who have,but are being financed by the state.Then there about 3 million who have fell through the cracks.
The coming economic crash will impact every household in the land.
The budget in a couple of weeks may wake a few people from their complacency.

414169 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to jonathan Palmer, 4, #1050 of 1392 🔗

Yes I agree many need to get their heads out of the sand and realise they are going to be affected. I am one of the many who fell through the cracks, so no matter what Sunak comes up with in the budget to try and sort out the economy I can safely say I cannot pay any additional tax on money I no longer have. I am sure there are many in exactly the same position.

The unemployment figures can only be hidden for a short time and they are going to rise quicker than coronavirus cases per day!

414301 ▶▶▶ liztr835, replying to RickH, 1, #1051 of 1392 🔗

They did put a stupid spin on it, it was all about the lockdown being a positive thing and how wonderful it was for peoples finances, no mention of the impending recession. They said 60something percent have saved money, not talking about the excluded, and people who have lost their jobs was terrible, all the time sounding smug.

414123 ▶▶ peterthepainter, replying to liztr835, 10, #1052 of 1392 🔗

We are saving loads. Not rich but have had 2 weeks away in last 12 months instead of 6. Eating out when we were away but at no other time. No coffees and cakes. Not driving around. Nothing to spend money on as the shops we would normally patronise are closed.

Our income is also up as wife who is self employed has only had 2 weeks off. Normally does 2 days a week but has been doing 3 days at times all from home instead of driving to clients’ offices.

We have no reason to put more away and I would much prefer to be out spending in small businesses.

414137 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to peterthepainter, 4, #1053 of 1392 🔗

I am pleased you and your wife are not being impacted financially by the lockdown, sadly many are. I am presuming though as you are posting on LS you probably can accept and understand others are not quite so fortunate, there are many who cannot see that either by ignorance or choice.

Hopefully there are many people like yourselves will go out and spend to support the businesses who have suffered.

414150 ▶▶▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Cumbriacracked, 4, #1054 of 1392 🔗

My advice would be pay down loans rather than spend, with the crash coming.

414232 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #1055 of 1392 🔗

We’re fine too, but I’m livid about all the people who aren’t. I’d be out buying from local businesses, but with the mask mandate here I refuse to frequent the shops. I try ordering my deliveries from local/national companies rather than Amazon. Businesses here, by and large, do not honour mask mandates so I won’t give them my business. So much as I’d love to spend and support businesses who have suffered, the continuing restrictions make it very difficult.

414092 Biggles, replying to Biggles, 5, #1056 of 1392 🔗

Sorry to put you off your tea, but Bozo the clown has been up in the north east today visiting a plant in Billingham that will be making yet another vaccine. He’s also been making calls in Newcastle.

He flew into Teesside Airport this morning courtesy of the RAF in a BAe 146 of 32 Sqn from Northolt. Lockdown? What lockdown….

414101 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Biggles, 15, #1057 of 1392 🔗

Are they necessary reasons to leave home? We know he’s not an essential worker.

414400 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #1058 of 1392 🔗

He’s not an essential anything.

414103 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Biggles, 6, #1059 of 1392 🔗

How many more vaccines do they actually want? Quite rightly people are not having the ones the UK does have why waste money on more?

414133 ▶▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Cumbriacracked, 1, #1060 of 1392 🔗

It up’s the GDP doesn’t it. Back to the 70’S the state paying the majority to work.

414106 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Biggles, 17, #1061 of 1392 🔗

Die cunt

414112 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Jaguarpig, -3, #1062 of 1392 🔗

Is there any point in a comment like this – it’s as useless as Boris?

414114 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to RickH, 9, #1063 of 1392 🔗

I liked it.

414138 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to JaneHarry, 6, #1064 of 1392 🔗

Me too. I’m way beyond being civilised now.

414320 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Jo Starlin, 4, #1065 of 1392 🔗

I thought it was quite restrained.

414115 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Jaguarpig, 4, #1066 of 1392 🔗

Straight to the point.

414136 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Jaguarpig, 3, #1067 of 1392 🔗

I agree with Jaguarpig.

414110 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Biggles, 15, #1068 of 1392 🔗

.

414128 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Biggles, 6, #1069 of 1392 🔗

I like this pic – he looks so Care in the Community.

414253 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 7, #1070 of 1392 🔗

Looks a bit like Homer Simpson working in the nuclear reactor

414315 ▶▶▶▶ Janette, replying to stefarm, 1, #1071 of 1392 🔗

Haha

414314 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #1072 of 1392 🔗

Haha you made me laugh

414402 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 1, #1073 of 1392 🔗

He was naughty in Mr Shitty’s class, so Shitty put him in the corridor.

414146 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Biggles, 4, #1074 of 1392 🔗

He really believes he’s a scientist

414154 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to DanClarke, 6, #1075 of 1392 🔗

Like Mrs Ceaucescu.

414156 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to DanClarke, 2, #1076 of 1392 🔗

Hang around enough with SAGE that scientific prowess just rubs off on you.

414267 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Biggles, 3, #1077 of 1392 🔗

Why should he be able to breathe his germs all over the North East? Doesn’t he know about the dreadful Kent and SA variants which we are told are rife down there? Why is any of this essential?

414276 ▶▶▶ Biggles, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1078 of 1392 🔗

Well indeed. Might explain why ‘cases’ in the NE are going up again.

414105 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 28, #1079 of 1392 🔗

Bro just rang me Covid Marshalls car just been towed away minus his two wheels appears bricks collapsed damaging front end,i told the daft fuckers jacking up a motorcycle is not the same as jacking up a car..

414111 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 2, #1080 of 1392 🔗

Lets hope he causes less trouble on foot and gets bad blisters.

414116 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Boris Bullshit, 13, #1081 of 1392 🔗

I’ve been told he’s handed his notice in can’t understand why..

414118 Redundant Pilot, replying to Redundant Pilot, 31, #1082 of 1392 🔗

So, have just ventured into one of our nearest towns (we live in the middle of nowhere in the south west)….on the way in, in a layby on a main artery road to the south west there were FIVE police cars and ONE police van, so approx 12 police officers. All nappied up and interrogating cars they’d pulled over. WANKERS.
We didn’t get stopped, and came home the cross country route. Haven’t these tossers got anything better to do. We are living in a police state why don’t these sheeple wake up!

414398 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Redundant Pilot, #1083 of 1392 🔗

They were looking for wicked people from big cities who yesrned for a bit of fresh air and freedom.Terrible crime.

414318 ▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Anti_socialist, #1085 of 1392 🔗

Love the top comment:

“The Lockdown party verses the Lockdown Harder party.”

414126 Bill Gisz, 12, #1086 of 1392 🔗

“the danger posed by healthism ~ the ideology of the ‘health of the nation’ ~ [is] to our right to do as we like with our lives, to our autonomy to pursue our kind of happiness, to the liberty of the Savage in the Brave New World.”

~ Dr Petr Skrabanek

414134 Jo Starlin, replying to Jo Starlin, 45, #1087 of 1392 🔗

Had a horrible bit of news. Bloke who used to go in my local pub has died at 59, had ongoing heart and respiratory problems. That’s pretty awful but, well, people die. But on top of that his wife killed herself a week later, son found her hanged at home.

I can’t help thinking a proper funeral with due ceremony, and the love and support of friends and family would have made a difference to her, if the monomaniac fascist scum who rule us hadn’t decreed such things “non-essential”.

RIP Ian and Kelly.

414141 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Jo Starlin, 11, #1088 of 1392 🔗

Very sorry to hear this, My sincere condolences.

414151 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Bart Simpson, 10, #1089 of 1392 🔗

Thank you, I should say that they were pub acquaintances rather than close friends but I still feel shocked and sickened. In my view the lack of proper funeral rites and mourning drove her past breaking point.

414187 ▶▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Jo Starlin, 11, #1090 of 1392 🔗

It disgusts me that the Churches have not revolted over this

414241 ▶▶▶▶▶ mj, replying to Ovis, 7, #1091 of 1392 🔗

churches, charities, all ignoring the real effects

414269 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Ovis, 6, #1092 of 1392 🔗

I heard on the radio the other day that ‘when’ we come out of lockdown the CofE expects congregations to be down permanently by 20%. I suspect this will, however, be blamed on ‘Covid’ rather than the church simply giving in to enforced closures and disruptions to services. I know some clergy did fight against this – Magna Carta forbids the state to interfere in the running of church services – but it was a small minority.

414395 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Cranmer, 1, #1093 of 1392 🔗

The CofE is not worth anybody’s allegiance except zombies’. Like to like. We need a new Church.

414213 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Jo Starlin, 9, #1094 of 1392 🔗

How horrific — I’m so sorry. Their poor son, who has to live with finding his dead mother and is now without both parents. Unfortunately, I think there will be more storied like this.

414231 ▶▶ CGL, replying to Jo Starlin, 6, #1095 of 1392 🔗

How awful. So sorry Jo.
I don’t think it matters that you weren’t close – it’s still a shock when it’s someone so young and such tragic circumstances. And their poor son – the heart just breaks.

414298 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Jo Starlin, 3, #1096 of 1392 🔗

Horrible. And the worst part is, had he been under proper care of a Dr. and perhaps been on a nutrition/dietary/ exercise regimen along with some herbals and nutrition supplements he would have probably been completely fine! But anything that’s not Covid hasn’t been important in the last year.

414373 ▶▶ stewart, replying to Jo Starlin, 3, #1097 of 1392 🔗

Bloody hell

414394 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to stewart, 1, #1098 of 1392 🔗

That’s where the Fascist sadists and murderers are heading,

414458 ▶▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Annie, #1099 of 1392 🔗

I bloody well hope so Annie.

414140 Apache, replying to Apache, 19, #1100 of 1392 🔗

I have been having fun over at The Times. I researched Pandemrix because some zealot was asking for proof. Have to say I was amazed at how similar today’s events are.

Eight years after the pandemic influenza outbreak, a lawsuit alleging that GlaxoSmithKline’s Pandemrix vaccine caused narcolepsy has unearthed internal reports suggesting problems with the vaccine’s safety. Peter Doshi asks what this means for the future of transparency during public health emergencies
In October 2009, the US National Institutes of Health infectious diseases chief, Anthony Fauci, appeared on YouTube to reassure Americans about the safety of the “swine flu” vaccine. “The track record for serious adverse events is very good. It’s very, very, very rare that you ever see anything that’s associated with the vaccine that’s a serious event,”1 he said.
Four months earlier, the World Health Organization had declared H1N1 influenza a pandemic, and by October 2009 the new vaccines were being rolled out across the world. A similar story was playing out in the UK, with prominent organisations, including the Department of Health, British Medical Association, and Royal Colleges of General Practitioners, working hard to convince a reluctant NHS workforce to get vaccinated.2 “We fully support the swine flu vaccination programme … The vaccine has been thoroughly tested,” they declared in a joint statement.3
Except, it hadn’t. Anticipating a severe influenza pandemic, governments around the world had made various logistical and legal arrangements to shorten the time between recognition of a pandemic virus and the production of a vaccine and administration of that vaccine in the population. In Europe, one element of those plans was an agreement to grant licences to pandemic vaccines based on data from pre-pandemic “mock-up” vaccines produced using a different virus (H5N1 influenza). Another element, adopted by countries such as Canada, the US, UK, France, and Germany, was to provide vaccine manufacturers indemnity from liability for wrongdoing, thereby reducing the risk of a lawsuit stemming from vaccine related injury.4

https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3948.full

414155 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Apache, 3, #1101 of 1392 🔗

Thank you for researching this. With your permission I will share with my circle to highlight the narrative with today while they consider whether to have the experimental vaccine.

414211 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 6, #1102 of 1392 🔗

Check out the Dengue vaccine debacle in the Philippines. Children died from pathogenic priming before they pulled it from the market.

414165 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Apache, 2, #1103 of 1392 🔗

A nice addition to that would be this video of chief of fear and doom Gabriel Scally encouraging everyone to get the Swine Flu vax 10 years ago.

https://youtu.be/Hth2eoHixMQ

414176 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Apache, 11, #1104 of 1392 🔗

Same story and players in Germany too.
Drosten panicking, narcolepsy vaccine pushing and wrong.
Wodarg calm and thereby saving- many- lives.

Fake Dr. Drosten now chief gov. adviser, fearmongerer and drugpusher, whilst Wodarg is regarded as a conspiracy theorist,
who was an will of course be proven right again.

414185 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to JayBee, 3, #1105 of 1392 🔗

Also carrying a fraudulent Doctorate is Mr Drosten.

These people are total game players

414143 Smelly Melly, 18, #1106 of 1392 🔗

So 40% of infections originate in hospitals. It makes me want to stand on my door step and slow hand clap them.

414163 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Anti_socialist, 4, #1108 of 1392 🔗

From Michael Wendling of the BBC Misinformation Unit

“Of course those who believe in conspiracy theories are not going to call their beliefs conspiracy theories, and are going to call themselves mainstream, moderate people.
We viewed footage of the speakers and spoke to people who were there.
We have no obligation to give a platform to erroneous ideas. We don’t, to take an extreme example, broadcast the manifestos of mass murderers alongside police statements so that people can “make up their own minds”.
I’m not saying the people there were violent. Some of them were (as the story reflected) were drawn by legitimate concerns. But the speakers (Mr Icke and others) were not expressing mainstream views that would benefit from airing and debate.

414171 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Julian, 4, #1109 of 1392 🔗

Is it not the case that the BBC has a duty to be impartial?

414177 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Steve Hayes, 7, #1110 of 1392 🔗

The quote from the BBC yesterday following their ban in China

The BBC is the world’s most trusted international news broadcaster and reports on stories from around the world fairly, impartially and without fear or favour.”

414179 ▶▶▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Cumbriacracked, 5, #1111 of 1392 🔗

And all of that is true. Except the second sentence, in its entirety.

414186 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Sam Vimes, 4, #1112 of 1392 🔗

The thing is they probably do think they are impartial – they just don’t really understand what the word means. There are different shades of acceptable opinion, which they endeavour to reflect, and then there are views that are beyond the pale which make you literally Hitler if you hold them, and those are offensive and dangerous and cannot be tolerated

414237 ▶▶▶▶▶ mj, replying to Cumbriacracked, 4, #1113 of 1392 🔗

They meant to say
“The BBC is the world’s most trusted international news broadcaster and reports on stories from around the world fairly, impartially and without fear or favour (unless it is about someone we like or dislike), and report on stories from home unfairly with partiality, toadying and general arse licking, and completely ignoring any argument against our chosen point of view

414178 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Steve Hayes, 2, #1114 of 1392 🔗

Indeed they do – I think it’s part of their charter but also morally because they are publicly funded

Of course we all know they are no such thing, and Mr Wendling quite openly admits here in an email to me that he and his colleagues are the ultimate arbiters of what ideas are and are not “erroneous” and benefit from an airing – it’s very instructive as an insight into what is probably quite a common mindset there and in similar organisations

He works with Marianna Spring

They do not believe in freedom of speech, but then hardly anyone does any more, if they ever did

414264 ▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Julian, #1115 of 1392 🔗

BBC talking rubbish as usual. I remember when the Yorkshire Ripper was captured they often said on the radio that he was doing it because he believed God was telling him to kill prostitutes.

414391 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Julian, 1, #1116 of 1392 🔗

Indeed, non- mainstream views are not worthy of debate. The Beeb would not have given a platform to Galileo. Or Darwin.Or Wegener. Or any nineteenth-century doctor who disbelieved in the Miasma.

414173 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #1117 of 1392 🔗

“We don’t debate with people who have different opinions to ours.”

414189 ▶▶ p02099003, replying to Anti_socialist, 8, #1118 of 1392 🔗

The same decision applies to anyone who disagrees with the “science” of anthropogenic climate change, Greta Thunberg over Roy Spencer.

414235 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #1119 of 1392 🔗

Says Emma Barnett, apparently. Anyone surprised?

414271 ▶▶▶ Liam, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 2, #1120 of 1392 🔗

The pimp’s daughter?

414331 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Liam, #1121 of 1392 🔗

I object to your comment, and must request that you be more precise in future.
Emma Barnett’s father is a convicted pimp and people-trafficker. Her mother, while having, so far as I am aware, escaped criminal conviction is, by any definition of the word “ponce”, a ponce.
I hope I do not have to repeat this criticism. Bro.

414161 Julian, replying to Julian, 25, #1122 of 1392 🔗

Just watching an old show on TV. It featured a school play. It reminded me that the debate about schools “reopening” is as usual disappointingly shallow. Schools will at some stage “reopen” maybe this academic year, maybe not, but truth be told they never properly reopened after they closed in March last year. I am thinking about the extra-curricular activities and all the sport, culture, social activities, clubs, school trips. The same goes for universities – eventually some teaching may be done on-premises but the whole richness of all the other stuff will never come back, but this won’t be headline news. A whole chunk of life gone and only a few will notice and talk about it openly.

414174 ▶▶ Kat, replying to Julian, 20, #1123 of 1392 🔗

It’s as if we’ve gone from a technicolour world to a monochrome and joyless existence in which the younger generation will never have what their parents and grandparents experienced.

414193 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Kat, 26, #1124 of 1392 🔗

I truly hope that all the anti-lockdown campaigners will continue to push for a return to normality for as long as it takes – and by normality I mean every last restriction and piece of “guidance” – just because schools “open” and pubs “open” etc etc we must not consider the fight over until they are restored in every way to what we had before March 2020

414205 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Julian, 14, #1125 of 1392 🔗

Couldn’t agree with you more. Where I live the current lockdown is ending next week, but because the mask mandate is still very much in place the end of these restrictions makes no difference to my life. I won’t wear a mask so I’m still just as restricted. I do fear that too many are too demoralized and will settle for much less than what life used to be like. Even my 24-year-old has said she’d be happy if she could just see her friends and eat at a restaurant. She’ll put up with the mask nonsense and the anti-social distancing garbage just to have a tiny bit of what she remembers as freedom. I March she has to go back into a school for her final placement to become a teacher and will be masked up 5 days a week. THAT’S NOT NORMAL!!! We can’t settle, but I’m afraid too many people will.

414214 ▶▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 23, #1126 of 1392 🔗

Masks are lockdown. Social distancing is lockdown. Limits on crowd sizes is lockdown. Group activities restricted is lockdown. Forced testing is lockdown. Forced isolation is lockdown.

414352 ▶▶▶▶▶ Colin, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 1, #1127 of 1392 🔗

We also have to be ready to jump on any attempt to transfer lockdown and its associated practices to another virus or illness, e.g. flu.

414358 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Colin, 3, #1128 of 1392 🔗

I think that’s the grand plan. Why would we accept any flu deaths now that we know how to “cure” the flu? I’m not sure what types of death will ever be acceptable now. Respiratory deaths are seemingly a no, but it’s OK to die of an overdose, untreated cancer or suicide. These people are evil and insane. And be prepared for more vaccine requirements. Why would governments insist on the Covid “vaccine” and not the flu vaccine every year? Where I live we do have court precedents against mandating vaccines, but I don’t trust those precedents not to be overturned in this environment of mass hysteria.

414292 ▶▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Julian, 1, #1129 of 1392 🔗

Yeah we need to fight on

414388 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Kat, 1, #1130 of 1392 🔗

Not unless they demand it. If all the students in Britain tore off their masks and went out there and demanded normalcy, what could the Fascists do? Shoot the lot of them? Send in the tanks, as in Prague in the 1960s? That would really make Bozo look good.

414168 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 32, #1131 of 1392 🔗

Watching the Six Nations provides a perfect illustration of the absurdity of the coronavirus madness. Whilst scrumming, mauling and tackling the players are all unmasked, but once they leave the field of play, and are more than two metres from anyone else, they are masked. It is obvious that they are simply following rules drawn up by the authorities, but the introduction of masks was premised on the rationale that they were only required where it was not possible to be two metres apart.

414175 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Steve Hayes, 3, #1132 of 1392 🔗

Husband just said something very similar! Also isn’t the social distancing guidance only so no need for any of it?

414242 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Steve Hayes, 5, #1133 of 1392 🔗

A pantomime for the masses, pointless. I do wonder when these ‘elite’ athletes are going to say no, enough is enough.

414446 ▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Steve Hayes, #1134 of 1392 🔗

I made the same observation. Not only all of that but they also stood socially distanced during the National Anthems too. What the Fuck are they playing at was my comment.

414182 eptwll, replying to eptwll, 49, #1135 of 1392 🔗

I just completely depressed myself by falling down a twitter thread about people bragging that they will never stop wearing masks even when the pandemic is over, that they can’t believe that people just used to breathe all over them, that they love not having to make eye contact or talk to people in stores. I’m in total despair now. These people are permanently damaged.

414196 ▶▶ leggy, replying to eptwll, 20, #1136 of 1392 🔗

They were probably damaged before. We can guess the sort who go down that path.

414385 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to leggy, 3, #1137 of 1392 🔗

They were always there in the supermarket, shuffling step, dead eyes, malevolent mutterings if they suspected you had beaten them to the best bit of fish in the bargain cabinet… the bollox has just highlighted their horribleness.

414199 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to eptwll, 10, #1138 of 1392 🔗

I am convinced it is just all signalling, they would not have worn a mask up until July and as soon as our great masters say they are not needed they will discard them straight away.

414227 ▶▶▶ Dave Angel Eco Warrier, replying to Cumbriacracked, 13, #1139 of 1392 🔗

Agree. Barely 5% of people (at a push) wore masks before they became mandatory. I know many who only wear them becasue they’ve been told to and not because they believe they do any good.

414319 ▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Dave Angel Eco Warrier, 3, #1140 of 1392 🔗

And because they’re afraid of confrontation and possible fines. Many don’t wish to stand up for their beliefs, preferring to take the easy way forward.

414200 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to eptwll, 11, #1141 of 1392 🔗

I hope someone is recording for posterity all these muzzloids, swervers and wall-facers. Future generations need to see it to believe it. How they will laugh. I’m tempted to get a Go-Pro.

414207 ▶▶▶ eptwll, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 4, #1142 of 1392 🔗

I took screen shots – I decided to keep a running record. I’m planning on adding to it daily.

414210 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to eptwll, 4, #1143 of 1392 🔗

Inhuman as it seems, there are good reasons why concentration camp prisoners held musselmaenner in such contempt. It was for many perhaps a condition of survival.

414220 ▶▶ tonyspurs, replying to eptwll, 4, #1144 of 1392 🔗

Quote “These people are permanently damaged”,
Deranged more like

414225 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to eptwll, 2, #1145 of 1392 🔗

As it happens I live in a ‘zero covid’ area, I would say that within our zero covid area people quickly relax and even in this cold weather people stop, maskless and chat to each other in the street. In my view the mask enthusiasm will fall way in the end.

414254 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to eptwll, 19, #1146 of 1392 🔗

There’s a tea room for sale in my neighbourhood, and I fantasized how I would run it.
Firstly a sign in the door: Masked people not allowed to enter unless you show your “exemption document” to proof you need to wear one.

Their food and drink would be served as a smoothie so they can suck it with a straw under their mask.

414344 ▶▶▶ Colin, replying to Silke David, 11, #1147 of 1392 🔗

I live in Bordeaux and there is a photographer who has a little shop/gallery. Big Sign on the door says “ No masks please – a smile will do”. Quite brave, for mask-loving France.

414261 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to eptwll, 10, #1148 of 1392 🔗

All they are doing is signalling conformity to the herd as a means of self-protection. If the herd is told masks are bad, they will announce that they don’t wear them and never did. Seriously, just ignore these people. Twatter, Faecebook, Instasham, these places are toxic and if you really have to visit, pretend you’re visiting Chernobyl and get out as quickly as you can.

414346 ▶▶▶ Colin, replying to Cranmer, 7, #1149 of 1392 🔗

Well we’re now being told by our most learned scientists that cloth masks are useless and only N95/FFP2 is acceptable. Blimey, I was telling everyone that 10 months ago, drawing on my extensive knowledge gleaned from O level Biology in 1977.

414308 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to eptwll, 2, #1150 of 1392 🔗

They were probably that way before, just now their sheep status is obvious

414317 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to eptwll, 1, #1151 of 1392 🔗

They were always the barely educated (ie informed) underclass – even those who appeared to be because of their ”dugreez”, tertiary education. I know quite a few who are personable and articulate, good at pub quizes, and quite knowledgeable about TV sitcoms and American movies.
And these are the ones who have volunteered for weekly tests and are desperate for the ”vaccine” so they can ”get back to normal” and who will, no doubt, hand over their precious children for the jab.

414188 Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 28, #1152 of 1392 🔗

Just talked to my mate, he has tested positive for the Rona last Tuesday, got notified on Thursday, phoned incessantly by national track n track, first to tell him all about the penalties for not isolating, threats, then another load of calls from all manner of government track n tracer callers, many with big foreign accents or very roughly spoken types that sound like they are out in the park or something, dogs barking in the background, traffic etc, calls from 8:30 in the morning every day to see if he was following the rules, and then he got handed over to the local track n track council team, more phone calls from them explaining the package of support measures he could get for self isolating.

Its not clear to my mate how long he has to stay in for, he is not even allowed out to the shops. Lucky he doesn’t have a dog. This is not clear, 9 days, 10 days 11 days 14 days, nobody can give a definitive answer.

What a shit show. He had to get tested for his care job.

The big question you all want an answer for, is he ill?

Nope.

414192 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Two-Six, 31, #1153 of 1392 🔗

NEVER NEVER NEVER give your phone number to a government department.

414197 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Anti_socialist, 12, #1154 of 1392 🔗

Why would anybody consent to a test? Even if you had to for your job. Mental.

414212 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Two-Six, 3, #1155 of 1392 🔗

A lot of testing does concern care and health workers getting tested for work, can your work demand you get tested? I am not sure what happens if you say no?

414217 ▶▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #1156 of 1392 🔗

They said to him and all the rest of the staff no test no pay.

414226 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1157 of 1392 🔗

Can he get them to start doing LFTs instead? After all they have now lost his services for 10 days even though he is likely fit as a butcher’s dog.

414312 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 1, #1158 of 1392 🔗

They are doing this now, about three days ago the council set up a LFT testing centre for essential workers, a drop in even for the fully well. He was unlucky and just missed the boat.

Also another of our mates tested positive a few days ago. Guess what, perfectly well.

414418 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Two-Six, 4, #1159 of 1392 🔗

Then this is direct violation of the Nuremberg principles (& by extention, UNESCO declaration of bioethics & human rights). You have the absolute right to decline consent for ANY medical intervention without any form of disadvantage or prejudice. They are breaking the law and can be held absolutely accountable.

414198 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Anti_socialist, 16, #1160 of 1392 🔗

And never answer the phone to anyone number you don’t recognise

414260 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Julian, 1, #1161 of 1392 🔗

I’m pleased to say that when some government department rang me to try to get me to have a Covid test, my phone marked it as ‘probable spam’ and suggested I block the number.

414536 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Julian, #1162 of 1392 🔗

Absolutely! No good ever comes of it.

414195 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Two-Six, 6, #1163 of 1392 🔗

10 days of harassment and bullying.

414204 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Two-Six, 3, #1164 of 1392 🔗

I hope you’ve been to visit

414219 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Ovis, 5, #1165 of 1392 🔗

Not yet but he is running out of cider.

414236 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1166 of 1392 🔗

Has he got any symptoms?

Apart from boredom

414310 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to stefarm, 3, #1167 of 1392 🔗

NONE, nothing, not even a sniffle.
PERFECTLY WELL.

414247 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Two-Six, 5, #1168 of 1392 🔗

Yet more proof the reaction to Covid is totally disproportionate. If the reaction of the main stream media and government are to be believed then your friend should br dying the most horrific death imaginable right now.

414281 ▶▶ CGL, replying to Two-Six, 3, #1169 of 1392 🔗

I heard this a few months ago – the calls are endless and the information is never consistent. What a crock of shit.

414306 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Two-Six, 3, #1170 of 1392 🔗

All complete bullsh*t

414190 Anti_socialist, 2, #1171 of 1392 🔗

Probably been posted before Jake Jacob – Go Outside.

414209 quodcumque, replying to quodcumque, 37, #1172 of 1392 🔗

We have a trainee teacher this term. I haven’t actually met him but at least once a day he watches my online lessons and slightly less frequently I return the favour. He keeps his camera on and I can generally see him frantically taking notes. Assuming he’s producing a transcript, which is all I’ve ever managed in such situations, I suppose these notes must look a bit like this. “Good morning everyone. Could you please open the shared Google document you were using last lesson. Yes that’s right, the one you’ve been using for the last few weeks. What do you mean you can’t find it George? Do we have to do this every single lesson? Go to drive.google.com and look in your recent files. Of course it’s there. Scroll down. Oh for heaven’s sake. Why would you delete it? Why? OK go into your deleted documents and undelete it. Wonderful. Thank you. Right. Now look at page two. It’s the second page Emily. What do you mean you can’t find it? Do you have more than one page? OK so you see the first page? That’s called page one. Now go to the second page. I’m aware there are no page numbers and I’m sorry it’s caused such confusion but I had assumed that at some point you’d been taught to count higher than one.”

The first term of the PGCE course is all lectures on wokery. Inclusion, diversity, implicit bias, gender-related stuff. More than ten years ago I had to explain why I’d failed to attend a lecture entitled “Conflict resolution through dance”. The second term is when all the practical experience is gained, which is really the point of the course. Students can make all their most excruciating mistakes in a controlled environment and at the end they get a job offer, rather than a sacking. Last year’s crop of poorly prepared recruits has already arrived and in some cases the pupils are running rings around them.

If I were in the same position as these trainee teachers, I’d be asking for a refund of my fees but that would be an admission that their qualification is close to useless. It all seems to encapsulate the current situation. Schools and universities pretend to teach. Exam boards and universities give fake qualifications. Then everybody does fake furloughed jobs. Paid for with fake money. But really nobody is doing anything worthwhile. This is living rather than existing. I wasn’t keeping count but I believe that this half term the breakdowns and threats of suicide among pupils I teach were roughly daily. And these are generally the most sociable and normal. Ordinarily I’m of the pull-yourself-together school but despair and breakdown seems rational at the moment. Now we’re talking about doing this for “just one more year”, at least if you watch the BBC, this seems permanent to the average teenager. What exactly do they have to look forward to? Friendship? Academic success? Sports? University? Holidays? A career? All that seems to matter to most people is stopping this virus. They think a life spent in quarantine is worth preventing a few extra cases and seem happy to impose their values on the rest of the world.

I’m more positive than a few weeks ago but I suspect if the Government wants to do this again, it won’t be hard to frighten everyone a little bit more and I fear lockdown will be an annual four-month event, coinciding with the NHS’s yearly death throes. How long until we start hearing the phrase “vaccine-resistant mutant virus”?

414221 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to quodcumque, 4, #1173 of 1392 🔗

What gives me (a smidgeon) of hope is that the vaccinated will expect the new variants to be catered for in every season’s jab just like it is with flu (with varying success but only the questioning will know this not them.) If you trust the science and Big Pharma you will trust they can do this and not take no for an answer. If they can’t then people will simply not bother getting jabbed and then who’s going to rake in the dollahs?

414265 ▶▶▶ quodcumque, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 1, #1174 of 1392 🔗

Yes, there’s certainly a strong desire to present this as a success and it gives me hope too. Conflict with the EU has helped too.

414257 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to quodcumque, 6, #1175 of 1392 🔗

I admire you for being able to stomach a PGCE. My mother trained as a teacher in the early 1960s and said that she could see the ideological ‘direction of travel’ even then.

414268 ▶▶▶ quodcumque, replying to Cranmer, 3, #1176 of 1392 🔗

Yes, it was bad. I’m sure it’s a lot worse now. Thankfully we were a rather right-wing intake. A real disappointment, apparently.

414381 ▶▶ Annie, replying to quodcumque, 1, #1177 of 1392 🔗

It’s bloody time these young ones got off their fannies and took action. It’s their future. They get together online every day for these pseudo-lessons, surely they can get something going? What use is all their bloody technical expertise if they never use it to communicate anything worthwhile?

414409 ▶▶▶ quodcumque, replying to Annie, 1, #1178 of 1392 🔗

I suppose young people in the past were usually being encouraged by radical teachers and lecturers. Now those people are telling them to be as compliant as possible. I mean, I’m doing my best to ridicule and undermine the paranoia and stupidity. But most of us aren’t. It also doesn’t help that our government’s response to protest is only slightly more lenient than that of the Chinese Communist Party.

414433 ▶▶ Lockdown_Lunacy, replying to quodcumque, 2, #1179 of 1392 🔗

I feel very sorry for teenagers. Looking back, between the ages of 15 and 18, even though I probably moaned like hell half the time, I had a blast! These times can never be replicated. They’re missing out on a key part of their development as people.

414216 PoshPanic, replying to PoshPanic, 4, #1180 of 1392 🔗

Was never a fan of Davis, but he’s growing on me. More evidence ( like we needed it ), of Vit D’s importance..

https://twitter.com/DavidDavisMP/status/1360647462197878791

414229 ▶▶ A Heretic, replying to PoshPanic, 10, #1181 of 1392 🔗

the problem is this was known a year ago before these fuckers threw us into prison thereby making the problem even worse.

414266 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to A Heretic, 5, #1182 of 1392 🔗

They’ve been so slow on the uptake on a number of things because they’ve been focused on vaccines. That’s because it’s a captured state.

HCQ, Ivermectin, Vit D (?3 reviews into it now), Vit C, seasonality, PCR CTs etc.

414223 embergalaxy, replying to embergalaxy, 69, #1183 of 1392 🔗

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I could cry. I’m so sick of this, masks, people dodging me in the street, queuing outside shops, not being able to travel, sheep everywhere I look. What is wrong with people, how can they not see what is going on??? I feel so alone, for the first time in my life I actually feel like there is no point anymore. I don’t know how much longer I can keep this up.

414233 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to embergalaxy, 25, #1184 of 1392 🔗

Please believe you are not alone. I have felt and do feel everything you have written there. You are amongst like minded people. Have you checked out ‘Find A Hub’? Talk to and meet up with fellow sceptics to fight the rot. Stay true and stay strong.

414234 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to embergalaxy, 32, #1185 of 1392 🔗

Remember how few people wore face nappies before 24th July. If Fat Boy announced the immediate cessation of muzzling and said anti-SD can be 1m (i.e. forgotten) 80% of folk would ditch both pronto. The rest will soon look so ridiculous they will start to drop them themselves except for the hardcore who need psychiatric treatment.

414272 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 2, #1186 of 1392 🔗

Good points.

414275 ▶▶▶ CGL, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 11, #1187 of 1392 🔗

We were saying that earlier – the sheep will just do whatever the latest decree says that comes from above – no thought, no question as to what the hell point was there in it all for the last 11 months – just a shrug and follow the rules.

414337 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #1188 of 1392 🔗

Absolutely.

414389 ▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 2, #1189 of 1392 🔗

And that’s the insanity of it all. Despite the numbers coming down there seems to have been a number of people who petitioned management at work to make wearing masks in the office mandatory. So now masks are mandatory. But this left me wondering why these same people weren’t shitting their pants demanding that something should have been done during October when numbers were on the rise.

414239 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to embergalaxy, 12, #1190 of 1392 🔗

Hold on – there is a future, even when we can’t see it. We’re here for you, and you are not alone!

In the meantime, find some good sources of dopamine, it will really help you to feel better and keep fighting on every day. https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/02/11/latest-news-282/#comment-408962

414240 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to embergalaxy, 15, #1191 of 1392 🔗

I know how you feel. Best thing to do is avoid maskers and places where they go. I find the further out in the country and away from towns you go the fewer maskoids you encounter.

414243 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Cranmer, 3, #1192 of 1392 🔗

This is true.

414375 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 4, #1193 of 1392 🔗

Absolutely. Go aming the joggers and the dog walkers,. Why do you think those groups were targeted by the lying government ad that had to be pulled?

414244 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to embergalaxy, 21, #1194 of 1392 🔗

As it happens I live in a zero covid area, when I go for a walk I commonly end up stopping and chatting to various friends and acquaintances, no masks, no anxiety, my wife has been out for walks with a friends, a team of us worked down in the local woods to clear a heap of baler twine caught in the stream, nobody wore a mask.
OK we are a medium sized village in the boondocks of North Devon but I think it is an indication that it can and will pass.
You cannot fool all the people all the time.

414248 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to embergalaxy, 12, #1195 of 1392 🔗

Keep on fighting embergalaxy

Our day will come.

You know what happens to sheep.

414378 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to rockoman, 2, #1196 of 1392 🔗

Yes, and it’s their sedulous guardians, the shepherds, who pack them into the trailer bound for the slaughterhouse.

414249 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to embergalaxy, 12, #1197 of 1392 🔗

Ps, you are not alone. This website bears testament to that. I recommend you join your local Great Reopening group on Telegram, which will put you in touch with like minded people in your area, or visit the forums on this site which perform a similar function. I have already met two people in my district who are Lockdown Sceptics.

414300 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Cranmer, 1, #1198 of 1392 🔗

”… who are Lockdown Sceptics”…. Say, rather – who ADMIT TO BEING lockdown sceptics. Sometimes it’s hard to hold ones hands up …..

414255 ▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to embergalaxy, 21, #1199 of 1392 🔗

You are not alone, embergalaxy.

The ‘lockdown’ zealots are determined to suck all the joy from life. They seem to forget that there is a difference between living and existing, that quality of life is more important than length of life. However, the current tyranny will not last forever – if nothing else, economic reality will force a change of strategy. And history will not be kind to the buffoons who are currently in charge.

In the meantime, here’s an uplifting tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Znh0OM9jiA

414296 ▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to DJ Dod, 5, #1200 of 1392 🔗

Good point. It’s easy to get sucked into pessimism and believe that we are on the brink of an endless totalitarian nightmare. Now, I am not denying that is a possibility – but such systems tend to have the seeds of their own failure built into them. I recall reading an academic who theorised how the Big Brother state in George Orwell’s 1984 could collapse through internal disagreements and supply chain problems, which are evident in the book if you look closely.

414259 ▶▶ Luckyharry69, replying to embergalaxy, 17, #1201 of 1392 🔗

you are NOT alone….please keep the faith………there are many more of us out here than you realise…..

414262 ▶▶ eptwll, replying to embergalaxy, 12, #1202 of 1392 🔗

Please know that you’re not alone – we all feel this way at times. It’s a roller-coaster for we sane people. And if you need to cry, have a good sob fest. This is a completely sane reaction to the absolute madness that we are trapped in.

414278 ▶▶ Janette, replying to embergalaxy, 8, #1203 of 1392 🔗

I know how you feel Embergalaxy but remember we are all here for each other and we need to stay strong.

414279 ▶▶ CGL, replying to embergalaxy, 16, #1204 of 1392 🔗

As others have said – you are definitely not alone. All of us here have days like when we feel the same way. My 16 year old came home from a short shopping trip in town yesterday and burst into tears because she is fed up with being treated like a leper. She says that all the old sheeple think it’s her age group that are to blame – she is a really good girl and wants to be nice to people, but they are all just horrible to her.

Go onto this link and see if there’s anyone near you you might be able to meet up with:-
https://www.thefreedomnetwork.co.uk/find-a-hub

Or get on the forums on here – there may be a group in your area you can contact.
I hope you find someone you can talk to face to face.

414295 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to CGL, 10, #1205 of 1392 🔗

That’s awful about your daughter. Why do the sheep blame everyone but the Govt themselves, the young, the sceptics, so-called anti-vaxxers, but not those who actually instigate it all? Completely puzzles me. Thanks also for that link.

414304 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer, replying to Old Trout, 8, #1206 of 1392 🔗

Immaturity is the incapacity to use one’s intelligence without the guidance of another.” – Kant

414289 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to embergalaxy, 5, #1207 of 1392 🔗

I had a couple of body swervers the other day in the park but I did detect the faintest taint of resentment as I strode forth imperiously.

414307 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to crimsonpirate, 5, #1208 of 1392 🔗

BEAM at them! Wish them ”good day”! Tell them what a lovely day it is, while taking deep breaths! Remind them of what they are missing and what has been lost!

(Difficult when you’d rather rip off their ridiculous muzzles and stuff them down their trousers…. or wherever…)

414291 ▶▶ Old Trout, replying to embergalaxy, 11, #1209 of 1392 🔗

I feel the same, its hard to find hope in this situation. I try and avoid the local town as much as possible. I find that going for a walk in the countryside helps enormously, very few mascoids or swervers, folk with dogs who are usually friendly, (and if not the dogs are) sounds of nature, fresh air, it feels like the ‘old normal’. Keep battling on, as others have said, you’re not alone, all of us on here feel the same and understand what you are going through.

414303 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to embergalaxy, 8, #1210 of 1392 🔗

You are not alone… I feel the same way. 😢

414374 ▶▶ Annie, replying to embergalaxy, 8, #1211 of 1392 🔗

You aren’t alone, friend. All over the country, and Europe, and the world, are the resistors. Yes, we’re a minority, and yes, we often feel alone, but we are HUMAN and we are RIGHT, and through sites like this we can figuratively join hands. So next time you go out among the sheeples, remember that you are not alone. In the end we will win. And so long as we don’t give up, we can’t lose.

414430 ▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to embergalaxy, 3, #1212 of 1392 🔗

You are not alone – you are expressing thoughts that, I’m sure, have occurred to us all.
Come here and rant, let off steam whenever – you are amongst kindred spirits. Perhaps you can find other groups of like-minded individuals.
Get out of the house when you can and enjoy the open air. If you are within a comfortable distance of the open countryside, so much the better. Real sheep live there, but the bemasked sheeples are by and large scared of it.
Find something to laugh at and forget all this (avoid YouTube and similar whose algorithms might propose more lockdown etc discussions, depending on your viewing history).
Remember some of the little things that gave you pleasure before all this started – make sure you recapture some of them.
You will come through, embergalaxy, and your humanity will join with ours in prevailing over the tyrants.

414238 PastImperfect, 10, #1213 of 1392 🔗

Nuremberg

414245 this is my username, 1, #1214 of 1392 🔗

UN Seeks ‘Human Rights’ for Rocks & Rivers, With Debbie Bacigalupi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HexfWLVLqbM

Interesting video which shows the agenda. She makes some great points.

414252 Lockdown Sceptic, 7, #1216 of 1392 🔗

THOUSANDS Gather In Austria Vienna / Hugo Talks #lockdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ejbzAymtY

414280 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Tenchy, 4, #1218 of 1392 🔗

Sweden.

414286 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Tenchy, 14, #1219 of 1392 🔗

so says Steven Riley of Imperial College funded by Bill Gates interviewed by BBC this morning ( funded by …ditto) now reported by Guardian (funded by…ditto)

414288 ▶▶ Dan L, replying to Tenchy, 9, #1220 of 1392 🔗

These experts are killers. I suppose they are already drenched in blood so what is a few more victims to them.

414302 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to Tenchy, 15, #1221 of 1392 🔗

What about a headline that said mass job losses, abject poverty and waiting lists of years rather than months/excess cancer deaths if we don’t open up now, but I don’t think that fits their narrative.

414363 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Tenchy, 4, #1222 of 1392 🔗

Isn’t that the same paper that stated because of climate change cold winters in the UK would be a thing of the past?

414535 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to OKUK, #1223 of 1392 🔗

Despite being kept afloat by the tax efficient sale of Auto Trader through ‘offshore vehicles’.

414367 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Tenchy, 6, #1224 of 1392 🔗

If there was a huge wave of anything that carried off the Grauniad, it would be a cause for celebration.

414282 JayBee, replying to JayBee, 14, #1225 of 1392 🔗

Mask zealous friend of mine, who owns a house in Sweden, was just sent back by Swedish customs because his negative PCR test was in German, not in Swedish or English.
He pleaded, it clearly showed negative, he had LFT tests on him etc.- to no avail.

This fits to the vaccine passport zealousness of the Swedes:
Everyone is in it/the GR/4thIR, they are just given varying leeways depending on how far along they are with the abolishment of individualism otherwise.

He is fuming, 600 miles driving and two ferry rides for nothing, and he might now join the resistance too.
I told him I hope that Texas and
Florida will secede and accepting me/us then…

414294 ▶▶ Mark, replying to JayBee, 21, #1226 of 1392 🔗

Mask zealous friend of mine, who owns a house in Sweden, was just sent back by Swedish customs

Well if he’s your friend you might not want to think it in this case, but for me the more often the panicker zealots suffer the consequences of the stupid panic they share and enable, the better.

414305 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to JayBee, 10, #1227 of 1392 🔗

Not surprised by this at all.

It is a hopeful sign because it points to the Tower of Babel nature of this entire globalist project.

We can only hope it implodes sooner rather than later.

414311 BJs Brain is Missing, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 41, #1228 of 1392 🔗

It’s coming up to a year now since the covid restrictions began. And do you remember being told it was just for “three weeks to flatten the curve”.

Now look at where we are… Multiple lockdowns, tier systems, shops and restaurants closed, businesses ruined, pubs closed, art and culture non-existent, finances destroyed, no sporting venues open to the public, mass unemployment on the horizon, forced vaccinations on the way, vaccine passports being touted, 10 years in jail for going on holiday, threats of forced incarceration in a ‘quarantine hotel’, and having to pay £1,250 for the privilege; separation from friends and family. The list goes on and on…

How much more needs to be done to us before we start to rebel and re-assert our God-given rights and liberty?

If you had been told about all of this back in March 2020, would you have accepted it? So why accept it now?

None of what has transpired is by accident, only a blind fool would believe this.

Get off your backside and stand up for your rights and liberty.

Embrace Common Law and fight back.

414365 ▶▶ Annie, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 9, #1229 of 1392 🔗

The zombies accept it because it’s come step by step, not all at once. Like the old Roman tale about the rebel, I think he was Spanish, who demonstrated that you couldn’t pull out a horse’s tail all in one go, but you could pull it out hair by hair.

414369 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 15, #1230 of 1392 🔗

Just had a chat with a zero Covid fan who wants ‘just 6 weeks extreme lockdown’ and we can get back to normal. Jesus wept.

414371 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 3, #1231 of 1392 🔗

I bet he has a constant stream of Amazon, GrubHub, and Instacart deliveries.

414380 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 8, #1232 of 1392 🔗

I agree.No power workers.no supermarkets open.no hospitals no tv.No one to leave the house.6 weeks should do it

414313 Elisabeth, replying to Elisabeth, 24, #1234 of 1392 🔗

Ugh. Just had a conversation with my sister… she said she might get the vax. I’ve been trying to talk her out of it. She also religiously wears masks and social-distances just like she’s been told. While I ignore all of the useless mandates, and challenge the mask directive at work by wearing it blatantly under my nose. I find it rather disturbing that out of 150 people in the building every day I am the ONLY ONE. What the HELL is wrong with all the brainwashed SHEEP???
They’re also „offering“ the vax at work now. I will not be getting it.

414323 ▶▶ rockoman, replying to Elisabeth, 8, #1235 of 1392 🔗

There are probably quite a few more who just don’t have the self-confidence to reject the muzzle, but share our views.

414492 ▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to rockoman, #1236 of 1392 🔗

In a nutshell !! An alternative piece of news needs to break to let people start the pushback !

414341 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Elisabeth, 6, #1237 of 1392 🔗

Stay strong! You’re doing the right thing. As for your sister, she’s an adult and there’s not much any of us can do convince our friends and relatives to say no to the experimental gene therapy. One interviewer I heard the other day said something powerful that has at least pushed a few of her friends/family to do a bit of reading. She told them if they get the “vaccine” then she will not help them in any way if they have an adverse event or long-term disability as a result. Tough love, but I’m considering it as well when my parents get notice that they’re eligible (Canada is well behind the UK, thankfully).

414360 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Elisabeth, 7, #1238 of 1392 🔗

Their problem is that they are brain-washed sheep. Before the bollox started they were already brain-washed sheep, but less noticeable because we weren’t forced to be like them or face persecution.

414362 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to Annie, 1, #1239 of 1392 🔗

They’re all flocked now.

414316 Ross Hendry, replying to Ross Hendry, 32, #1240 of 1392 🔗

The simple truth is that the average person, conditioned to believe that authority must be obeyed (with the odd grumble), can’t seem to get his or her head around right now is that we are in the midst of the biggest crime against humanity ever. It’s such a nightmare, so large, that most really don’t want to know, thank you very much.

At this moment I can only take one positive – it’s at least showing up a dire situation that’s been long in the making: we will follow any orders if they promise to free us from fear.

Nevertheless I find hope in that Fuellmich and his legal team in Germany, and lawyers worldwide are on the case – and this will eventually prove to be a major turning point in history.

414357 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ross Hendry, 9, #1241 of 1392 🔗

But the zombies, who follow the Rules slavishly, are NEVER free from fear, because the poison media pump it into them 24/7. They have traded everything that makes life worth living, in exchange for a miserable existence of perpetual terror.
Things are very bad for us humans but not that bad.

414393 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Annie, 5, #1242 of 1392 🔗

That is why it is so important to attend this world rally in London this March. Just to show the presence of people in large numbers who know this is a planscamdemic. Then the questioning ones at home will see it and have greater confidence to speak out.

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

414488 ▶▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #1243 of 1392 🔗

Let’s pledge our attendance !! I’m going , anyone else ????….

414534 ▶▶▶▶▶ Nymeria, replying to Freddy Boy, #1244 of 1392 🔗

Me! Bought the train ticket for London last week.

414364 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Ross Hendry, 1, #1245 of 1392 🔗

What’s the latest on Fuellmich, I’ve had too many false dawns this year.

414490 ▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #1246 of 1392 🔗

I’m waiting on this since his first post a while back , Simon Dolan tried , Fuellmich please prevail !!!

414325 danny, replying to danny, 80, #1247 of 1392 🔗

So as for many of you on here my friends, today is the first day of half term. Usually February is great either for visiting family over in Paris, or just taking my daughter out for cold weather stuff like cinema, castles, ice skating, bowling etc. She sees my parents a lot that week for sleepovers and old musicals with my Mum. Just a lovely time.
This year?
My parents hide behind their front door and refuse to come near, her little friends only communicate via zoom, everything’s closed, and she doesn’t even seem her usual exuberant, happy self.
As a parent, there is NOTHING that I can do to help her.
Every single mask, every indifferent shrug, every damn person who replies to me with “we are all having to adapt, or well, what can we do” as if this lockdown is a given, makes me see red.
I am beyond angry now, and just feel so incredibly sad. Sorry to rant, but I know here I am among people that feel as I do.

414326 ▶▶ CGL, replying to danny, 16, #1248 of 1392 🔗

Or ‘it is what it is’ (shrug). That really pisses me off.

414327 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to danny, 13, #1249 of 1392 🔗

Sorry to hear this. Have you tried joining the Great Reopening groups on Telegram? I understand some of those are frequented by parents looking to get in touch with other like minded parents in their area so that children can get together with other children. Might also be possible to arrange this through the forums on this site as well.

414334 ▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Cranmer, 7, #1250 of 1392 🔗

Exactly what we need to be doing.

Rebuilding from the ground up.

Our way.

414339 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to rockoman, 28, #1251 of 1392 🔗

I’ve been saying this for a while. We need a parallel, dissident society, underground if necessary, but visible if possible, which refuses to go along with this nonsense. I’ve already started by having ‘pub nights’ with friends in my cottage and getting my hair cut by a sceptic lady hairdresser in the village. It’s not much but we should all be doing stuff like this.

414345 ▶▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Cranmer, 10, #1252 of 1392 🔗

The demographics of my (very agreeable, I must admit) little village constitute an almost binary division between Guardianista liberal-fascists and unreconstructed working-class authoritarian-conservatives. So. Here I stand, I can say very little……

414387 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 1, #1253 of 1392 🔗

Where you do you live, the Cuntwolds?

414422 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #1254 of 1392 🔗

No.

414343 ▶▶▶▶ Nymeria, replying to rockoman, 5, #1255 of 1392 🔗

Been having this very same conversation this afternoon.

414386 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Cranmer, 1, #1256 of 1392 🔗

or http://www.thefreedomnetwork.co.uk might have people with children to meet up with other children

414332 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to danny, 14, #1257 of 1392 🔗

Keep ranting. It’s like swearing when you stub your toe — it helps! I am so sorry for your daughter and it sickens me to see the extent to which people are willing to selfishly sacrifice children for their own perceived “safety.” Finding even one other family who is willing to socialize and act normally would be super helpful for you and your daughter.

414390 ▶▶▶ danny, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 5, #1258 of 1392 🔗

Thanks Lisa. She has always been very loyal to her little group of friends, none of which currently go to school (she does, as a key worker kid luckily)z
They have basically vanished. Busy parents, siblings at home etc, and now will only talk on zoom, as will my parents, who live ten minutes away and have always been incredibly close to her.
So the feelings of rejection and isolation for a happy 10 year old, despite our best efforts as parents, are really hitting home.
Not sure whether it is easier having anti-lockdown parents as she does, or not. At least if we were terrified, all this would have a point.

414424 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to danny, 10, #1259 of 1392 🔗

She’s far better off with anti-lockdown parents, even if it doesn’t look like it at the moment. As awful as she’s feeling, she likely won’t end up with the fear of others and the OCD/germaphobia that so many kids will suffer with. Thankfully she’s in school, which is more than so many kids. The most disturbing part of your story is your parents rejecting their granddaughter. My mom had to have a talk with my niece who was anxious about visiting my parents. She told her they were not afraid and wouldn’t stop seeing their grandkids. My parents are pretty careful given their age, but they’ve decided it’s not OK to isolate from their closest family. Keep up the great work — your daughter is lucky to have you as parents.

414438 ▶▶▶▶▶ danny, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #1260 of 1392 🔗

Thank you for the kind words Lisa. Means a lot.

414353 ▶▶ Annie, replying to danny, #1261 of 1392 🔗

You’re in France, yes? Which is supposed not to be in lockdown? Some supposition.

414384 ▶▶▶ danny, replying to Annie, 4, #1262 of 1392 🔗

No. Misunderstanding there. I have family in France but we are in the UK. I made the point about usually going there during school holidays.

414444 ▶▶ HoMojo, replying to danny, 5, #1263 of 1392 🔗

Yeah, and it’s all bulshit and they can’t see it. No more deaths per thousand than any other year (averaged out) since 1945, some years considerably less. I thought people were cottoning on, but my taxi driver tonight really had a go at me when I said I wouldn’t wear a mask cos they don’t work when he was all muzzled up.

414466 ▶▶ Adamb, replying to danny, 5, #1264 of 1392 🔗

I feel for you Danny. I’ve driven my three children to my parents 300 miles away. Frankly I didn’t give them much option, but they are in their 80s and probably realise there’s a finite number of times we will see each other again. Worth the risk of the fine to see my parents’ spirits rise being surrounded by children and grandchildren. The law be damned.

414484 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to danny, 1, #1265 of 1392 🔗

👍

414519 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to danny, 2, #1266 of 1392 🔗

she’s lucky to have a father like you. that is all that matters.

414328 Redundant Pilot, replying to Redundant Pilot, 8, #1267 of 1392 🔗

The HART group have just isssued their first weekly bulletin…..

https://www.hartgroup.org/covid-19-bulletin-for-mps/

It says a lot of what we’ve already been saying but in a more polite way…..still not sure what the game plan is with these guys. Is it slowly slowly catchy monkey?

414437 ▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Redundant Pilot, 2, #1268 of 1392 🔗

I can’t see how it can be anything other than slowly-slowly when they are briefing MPs, and trying to steer a reasoned middle course through the now extremely polarised debate.
MPs have been subject to the same manipulation as the population as a whole, so are in much the same state of anxiety and bewilderment. Their minds won’t be changed overnight, especially when “the experts” of SAGE appear to have free licence to promulgate their worst-case scenarios as fact.

414507 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to TheOriginalBlackPudding, 1, #1269 of 1392 🔗

MPs have been “subject to” a £100k salary plus and extra £10k “to assist working from home” plus expenses for not actually doing anything.
Slowly-slowly doesn’t come close!

414330 Tenchy, replying to Tenchy, 3, #1270 of 1392 🔗

FFS! It gets worse. The Telegraph (paywall):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/13/antiviral-coating-face-masks-kill-kent-south-africa-covid-variants/

Scientists at the University of Cambridge say an antiviral coating on face masks is capable of protecting users from the Kent and South Africa variants of Covid, killing the virus in as little as an hour.

The invisible coating attacks the virus by rapturing [sic] its outer layer, effectively eliminating all new mutant variants.

The mask uses a technology called DiOX that is based on quaternary ammonium salts – organic compounds widely used in the textile industry for their antimicrobial properties [yes, I really want to breathe in this stuff].

. . . .

The mask is reusable and can be washed up to 20 times, albeit subject to a reduction in efficacy after multiple washes.

414335 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Tenchy, 14, #1271 of 1392 🔗

LOL. Might as well say ‘the witchdoctors have read in the entrails that the skull of a walrus worn around the neck is more likely to prevent against attacks from the Evil One than the skull of a fox.’

414370 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Cranmer, 1, #1272 of 1392 🔗

Thanks for making me chuckle!

414338 ▶▶ Suet, replying to Tenchy, 11, #1273 of 1392 🔗

But, but, but … I thought my mask protected YOU, not me!

414342 ▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Suet, 9, #1274 of 1392 🔗

Good point, if people believe that this will protect them, does that mean that we stop having to wear one to protect them?

414349 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to A. Contrarian, 16, #1275 of 1392 🔗

The zombies have never really believed that their nappies protect other people. That’s why they wear them outdoors, in their own cars, and doubtless in the bath and in bed. The rest is just an excuse to abuse human beings who refuse to delete their own faces.

414340 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Tenchy, 1, #1276 of 1392 🔗

In an hour?? Unless you need to wear one for work, who is wearing one for that long?

Presumably it kills the non-variant variants too, or what’s the point?

414350 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to A. Contrarian, 8, #1277 of 1392 🔗

No, you have to wear an extra nappy for each additional variant, until the choice is between covvie and asphyxiation.

414452 ▶▶▶ A Heretic, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1278 of 1392 🔗

I’m trying to work out whether the virus patiently waits outside your mask for the hour.

414347 ▶▶ Alan P, replying to Tenchy, 9, #1279 of 1392 🔗

Invisible coating? We really are going through the “Emperor’s new clothes”.
Who’ll be the first to fall for it?

414361 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Tenchy, 4, #1280 of 1392 🔗

Killing the virus, the single virus stuck on the outside while the other 999 get sucked in when you breathe.

414448 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Tenchy, #1281 of 1392 🔗

They tried to sell this before the mutations already…..

414482 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Tenchy, 1, #1282 of 1392 🔗

Washed upto 20 times !! Do me an F – in favour 😂

414487 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to Tenchy, 2, #1283 of 1392 🔗

Can’t we just walk around with bars of soap in our mouths?

414348 Basics, replying to Basics, 21, #1284 of 1392 🔗

stand at your door and clap this.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/13/new-do-not-resuscitate-orders-imposed-on-covid-19-patients-with-learning-difficulties

New DNRs placed on people with learning difficulties.

If you work for the NHS are you complicit with evil? If you fund the NHS with taxes are you funding this evil?

As a nation we have some very dark questions to ask ourselves.

414351 ▶▶ Basics, replying to Basics, 11, #1285 of 1392 🔗

Sorry, while I’m at it, how does it feel to be administering the ‘vaccines’ into people knowing the numbers of dead and other adverse reactions that are spawning off them? How does it feel?

414383 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Basics, 8, #1286 of 1392 🔗

We are talking about thousands of Harold Shipmans: it feels wonderful

414516 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to FedupofLies, #1287 of 1392 🔗

I think the distinction is whether they are prepared to take it themselves. you should not administer any treatment that you would not be prepared to have yourselves, or give to your loved ones. this was the position of that Irish GP which someone posted on here, I think he got sacked

414382 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Basics, 10, #1288 of 1392 🔗

This is just the beginning. It’s all about moving to a digital social credit system.

This is the greatest crime in human history. Gates, Fauci, Ferguson and all the bankers who designed it ( and the teacher’s union leaders ) need to be held account for their actions and sentenced to decades in prison if found guilty.

414354 OKUK, replying to OKUK, 4, #1289 of 1392 🔗

LS claims that production would necessarily have fallen because of the pandemic and that lockdown only made it worse. How then to explain China – epicentre of the pandemic – which saw economic growth of 2.3% in 2020?

414359 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to OKUK, 4, #1290 of 1392 🔗

Chinese growth is always much higher. Depends what it was last year. Obviously we any growth is good but baseline important too.

Also, Chinese growth numbers are well known to be juiced. Tractor production stats abound

414376 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 6, #1291 of 1392 🔗

We certainly live in an age of falsehoods.

It feels as though the Father of Lies is at work in the world.

414527 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 1, #1292 of 1392 🔗

Maybe you’d prefer Taiwan – growth rate in 2020 was 4.94%. Or Swazilan which I’ve just found out we should now call Eswatini – 1.4%.

My point is that the pandemic was not bound to cause a major economic meltdown. Did anyone notice the Hong Kong Flu pandemic of 1968 causing a major economic downswing? Of course it didn’t because it didn’t affect human behaviour back then.
Governments across the world, encouraged by China, chose to frighten the bejesus out of their populations. It was a policy choice. A really stupid one.

414366 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to OKUK, 7, #1293 of 1392 🔗

They didn’t lock down. They just convinced the rest of the world to.

414528 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to LMS2, 1, #1294 of 1392 🔗

Exactly. There was no national lockdown in China. And there has been no national lockdown in Japan, South Korea or Taiwan either.

414450 ▶▶ A Heretic, replying to OKUK, 3, #1295 of 1392 🔗

It may have fallen but only because of the 24×7 fear porn we’re bombarded with. Otherwise who would have noticed anything out of the ordinary last year?

414355 Lockdown Sceptic, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 8, #1296 of 1392 🔗

R ecord-high number of suicidal children forces San Francisco to sue its own school district to reopen
NEWS
There’s a 66% increase in the number of suicidal children in the emergency room

https://www.theblaze.com/news/suicides-children-san-francisco-schools-reopen?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New-Trending-Story_WEEKEND%202021-02-13&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News

414368 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 2, #1297 of 1392 🔗

Same thing happened in Las Vegas a few weeks ago.

414379 ▶▶ danny, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 2, #1298 of 1392 🔗

That is awful.

414413 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Lockdown Sceptic, 7, #1299 of 1392 🔗

Where are all the anti-lockdown protests in California? Oh, there aren’t any. Why aren’t these parents doing more to advocate for their children???

414456 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 4, #1300 of 1392 🔗

University of CA San Francisco seems to think 2-year olds can effectively advocate their own gender fluidity. I suspect CA is (in the main) too far gone!
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/two-year-olds-decide-transgender

414392 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 3, #1301 of 1392 🔗

Very interesting just published study. Also linked a twitter thread from Mina explaining it. They are saying the trajectory of the epidemic is best following Ct Values of PCR test. This is better than pure case counting as there are enormous difference in testing either of symptomatics or asymptomatics or full scale scale community testing. I think similar things was found in Rhode Island during summer where there was no virus according to Ct value but massive of cases based upon PCR.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.08.20204222v2
Estimating epidemiologic dynamics from cross-sectional viral load distributions We show instead that the population distribution of viral loads observed under random or symptom-based surveillance, in the form of cycle threshold (Ct) values, changes during an epidemic and that Ct values from even limited numbers of random samples can provide improved estimates of an epidemic’s trajectory.

 https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1360634486111764480

414434 ▶▶ leggy, replying to swedenborg, 9, #1302 of 1392 🔗

The way PCR is being used must be the biggest global scam the world has ever seen. Kary Mullis must be spinning.

414470 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to leggy, 7, #1304 of 1392 🔗

Talking of conspiracy theories, it was a really convenient coincidence he died just before PCR was hijacked to enable the Covid-19 fraud.

414478 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #1305 of 1392 🔗

There’s a debate about that in the youtube comments, but I think they would have just silenced him as they do Ioannidis, Bhakdi, Gupta etc

It is kind of sad though that Fauci the grubby bureaucrat is a household name and the public has never heard of Mullis the Nobel laureate.

414513 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Anti_socialist, #1306 of 1392 🔗

how did he die? was he suicided?

414396 BeBopRockSteady, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 13, #1307 of 1392 🔗

You may remember the recent Swedish schools study which showed minimal risk to opening schools. The author received threats.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jhnhellstrom/status/1360500840692334592

Signatories of the Cormac-Dorsten review also suffered similarly. Mike Yeadon.

This is the kind of people we are dealing with. Lower level activists like the #wibbles and higher level 77th types.

414404 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 19, #1308 of 1392 🔗

Well, it happened to Didier Raoult, I believe, in France after he vindicated hydroxychloroquine and zinc through his research, that he was threatened by phone in the night by a member of their SAGE equivalent.

I want all these doctors to testify at the next Nuremberg.

414412 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to FedupofLies, 7, #1309 of 1392 🔗

There have been doctors sent for mental assessment after questioning the narrative. One was a swiss doc and guest on the Richie Allen Show on summer. It happened to an Australian doctor too.

414447 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 5, #1310 of 1392 🔗

I just saw a clip by a journalist who predicted in 2008 EXACTLY what’s going on today.
Her name is Jane Burgermeister, she was declared insane a few years later and seems to be amiss now.

414477 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to JayBee, 3, #1311 of 1392 🔗

She is on BrandNewTube, listening to her now, and she has quite an ASMR voice so that’s good

414489 ▶▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to JayBee, 1, #1312 of 1392 🔗

Link?

414474 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #1313 of 1392 🔗

From wikispooks, and completely unsourced or anything. The stuff about the Chinese not knowing is in line with how I sense it. There is just so much dark stuff going on behind the scenes. I long for simpler times:

In December 2020, Jean-Bernard Fourtillan , a French retired university professor in pharmacology and toxiology, and known for his strong opposition to COVID-19 vaccines , was taken from his temporary home in the south of France by a team of gendarmes (police) and forcibly placed in solitary confinement at the psychiatric hospital of Uzès. [29]
In particular, Fourtillan has accused the French Institut Pasteur , a private non-profit foundation that specializes in biology , micro-organisms, contagious diseases , and vaccination , of having “fabricated” the SARS-COV-2 virus over several decades and been a party to its “escape” from the Wuhan P4 lab — unbeknownst to the lab’s Chinese authorities — which was built following an agreement between France and China signed in 2004 .

414403 DThom, replying to DThom, 8, #1314 of 1392 🔗

Has anyone noticed the ‘big’ men wearing black masks everywhere. Hoodies make them look ‘harder’

414407 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to DThom, 18, #1315 of 1392 🔗

There are no ‘men’ left. They are weak cowards.

414504 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #1316 of 1392 🔗

The real men are barefaced!

414406 Ricky1, 12, #1317 of 1392 🔗

The obese troll says hes optimistic about reopening according to the original March 8th timetable after days of UK “experts” going to the media and doom mongering that unless lockdown is extended till may/June we’re all gonna die. As a result expect a lot of scientific screeching from the “experts” over the next few days, they’ll being going into overdrive to ensure the public is scared into agreement to keep their five minutes of fame going.

414408 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 12, #1318 of 1392 🔗

I have just watched Andrew Bolt on Sky News Australia. He is usually measured and humorous. He sounded frustrated and angry – and said a lot of what we feel. He was especially incandescent about the idea of muzzles on an empty beach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf64Z_W25b0

This despair is creeping. As Neil Oliver so well described on his interview with Mike Graham on Talk Radio.

414472 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Banjones, 1, #1319 of 1392 🔗

I noticed that actually a while back that he seemed getting distraught. Then he retired or something, I don’t know.

414410 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 8, #1320 of 1392 🔗

Seasonality. This is the most difficult in the enigma of C-19. All modelling like Ferguson don’t accept seasonality. This interesting US graph shows only hospitalization, ICU use, Ventilation patients spread over time  in the curve. Superimposed is Hope Simpson curve combined North Temperate and North Tropical as US has both zone. A remarkably similar curve.

https://twitter.com/Hold2LLC/status/1360583461971652608/photo/1

414415 ▶▶ leggy, replying to swedenborg, 8, #1321 of 1392 🔗

Clear relationship. Seasonality is undeniable yet they deny it!

414411 BeBopRockSteady, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 14, #1322 of 1392 🔗

FOI requests across NHS Trusts in Scotland. 94 deaths only from Covid in 2020.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRustler83/status/1360619784673591297

What to make of this then?

414431 ▶▶ Janette, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 11, #1323 of 1392 🔗

As expected. So we have all been locked down for more or less a year for that. We need to get the country open again. This just shows it’s all been a bloody hoax!

414442 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 4, #1324 of 1392 🔗

Just shared this on faceless book, I will post on the telegram groups. The world needs to see this is a scam.

414414 Hound dog, replying to Hound dog, 15, #1325 of 1392 🔗

It’s only a matter of time before the change the lockdown narrative from COVID to climate change

414432 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Hound dog, 8, #1326 of 1392 🔗

I recently watched an English language youtube video with Sucharit Bhakdi ( it was very hard to find as he is suppressed and deleted ) and the Dutch interviewer seemed to imply that anti-lockdown/the vaccine people there were already openly making the connection to climatology as the new justification for tyranny.

I regard climatology as completely bogus now because it comes from the same people who promoted the ScamPlandemic, whereas before I was just sceptical but perfectly willing to go along.

I wouldn’t want to alienate those like Naomi Klein who see this virus scam for what it is yet are climate change believers.

414512 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to FedupofLies, 3, #1327 of 1392 🔗

yes same here; I would say that 12 months ago I had more respect for scientists, and couldn’t have believed that so many of them were so disreputable and untrustworthy. now I realise that they are just as capable of being complete assholes as the rest of us, and the climate crap bears all the same hallmarks of cultism and scamming and a cover for another more sinister agenda that the Scam19 does. I am quite sure they are different variations of the same bollox

414445 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Hound dog, 1, #1328 of 1392 🔗

Why would anything need to change? They’re doing fine pushing both at once.

414417 Janette, replying to Janette, 10, #1329 of 1392 🔗

I am sick of heating Bill Gates advert for his book on Climate Change on Talk Radio. I have heard it at least 3 times today and I only listened to TR for about 2 hours. The charlatan is worming his way into our psyche. Does anybody else get this awful vibe?

414425 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Janette, 6, #1330 of 1392 🔗

I wouldn’t min heating Bill Gates over a spit roast no and slowly.

414426 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Janette, 1, #1331 of 1392 🔗

He wants to be the equivalent of Ford in Brave New World, if I remember, the distant deity who founded that society.

414464 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Janette, 1, #1332 of 1392 🔗

Never listen live, go on utube an hour after stream starts, so you can fast-forward stuff you don’t like.

414476 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Janette, #1333 of 1392 🔗

YES

414510 ▶▶ Jane G, replying to Janette, #1334 of 1392 🔗

BBC R4 are serialising the book next week; steer clear! I guess they have to schmooze one of their funders….
I can’t help being reminded of one of Top Cat’s gang when he talks – Choo Choo, maybe?

414427 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to awildgoose, 3, #1336 of 1392 🔗

Quelle surprise’. Brilliant job Biden’s done so far calling for ‘total unity’ or whatever the hell it was he promised.

414529 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, #1337 of 1392 🔗

“put a lid on it”

“salute the marines”

“C’mon, man!”

414429 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to awildgoose, 16, #1338 of 1392 🔗

Well, praise be! There IS some sanity in the world after all. Just a bit – but better than nothing.
I feel so low tonight and this lifted me just a welcome bit…

414530 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Banjones, #1339 of 1392 🔗

My man, there are reasons gangsta rappers have name checked Trump for almost three decades.

414460 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to awildgoose, 2, #1340 of 1392 🔗

Fake impeachment, but surprised he beat it this time.

414467 ▶▶ Mark, replying to awildgoose, 3, #1341 of 1392 🔗

More lefty performance art for and by Trump Derangement sufferers.

414493 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to awildgoose, 7, #1342 of 1392 🔗

I just saw the BBC News report. The BBC were quite happy to show the arguments on both sides: the leading Democrat who condemned Trump and the leading Republican who condemned Trump. This was followed by some mad alcoholic woman in her 80s, a mobster’s daughter, who hates Trump and claims to be a big shot in the House of Representatives. Then the unfortunate presenter had to read out Donald Trump’s statement – this was presented as an incomplete ropey old screen shot – no neat graphic with quotes. You could tell the guy’s sense of peril…this could be a career-ending moment if his delivery was too sympathetic. But equally he couldn’t blow the BBC’s impartiality cover totally by reading it in a tone of sarcastic ridicule. He did well, hitting just the right note of nose-holding disdain at having to read out such a transparently false and fallacious text.

BTW – why no reports from the normally ubiquitous Sopel, Bryant and Zurcher.

As for the Capitol “riot”, it all comes down to whether there was massive electoral fraud that denied Trump his genuine victory. That has never been examined properly in a court of law or by any sort of public inquiry. The corrupt DoJ and FBI refused to even investigate the thousands of serious claims backed by affadavits.

There are a couple of ongoing cases I understand but those bringing them have been threatened with professional ruin. Big Tech and the MSM censor all discussion of the alleged fraud. To discuss it can lose you your job.

Having studied numerous articles, affadavits and videos on the subject I am personally convinced there was massive fraud. If the election was stolen then storming the Capitol to prevent the stolen election being ratified is perfectly constitutional.

414497 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to OKUK, 3, #1343 of 1392 🔗

Yes, agree. Dunno if you’ve seen the video ‘Absolute proof’ by the guy that does MyPillow in the US, it’s a bit of overkill (1 hr 50 minutes+ or something) but there is real shocking evidence, IP addresses, screenshots of machine manipulation, all kinds of stuff. inc direct links to & from China.

The storming of the Capitol is interesting – being as several protagonists named in connection with this, inc. Logan Grimes, John Sullivan, have very public links to BLM. Sullivan’s name was plastered over at least some of the MSM here mid January, clearly labelling him as an anti-Trump BLM activist. A London colleague of mine made a formal complaint to the London Assembly in Jan. re: the Mayor’s continued highly public support of the group, surely pretty inappropriate as they are linked to this so-called “insurrection”? zero reply thus far, to my knowledge.

414501 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 4, #1344 of 1392 🔗

Did you see the Proud Boys leader was an FBI informant?

414525 ▶▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 1, #1345 of 1392 🔗

Not surprised if true. Equally important is why the Capitol Police with plenty of advance notice of the intentions of various protestor groups assembling in their tens of thousands had on perimeter guard duty about 5 poorly protected officers and virtually no one at the main entrance door. I really can’t believe that was unintentional.

And why have the MSM told us virtually nothing about the incident where a protestor was shot dead at virtually point blank range by an unnamed police officer. Imagine if it had been a reverse image killing of a BLM supporter?

The whole thing stinks like a trout stuck between two radiator panels.

414420 Janette, replying to Janette, #1346 of 1392 🔗

Just noticed a typo in above
heating should be hearing

414423 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Janette, #1347 of 1392 🔗

You can edit your own comments

414421 Andrew K, replying to Andrew K, 28, #1348 of 1392 🔗

Posted the open letter from the UK Medical Freedom Alliance about the excess deaths due to vaccines in care homes on facelessbook and got from a (now ex-facelessbook) reply saying he lost his dad to covid in a care home and unless I stop posting this shit he will report me to the police. Felt like replying back to him saying instead of being angry with me he should be angry with the people who allowed him to die by not giving him the treatment that Indians are getting or probably the DNR order. Then I thought, no fuck him, jus removed him from arsebook, a lot easier.

PS, 3 years ago I know his dad was in a care home with dementia so probably highly unlikely that covid killed him anyway. I don’t give a shit anymore as these people will ultimately lead to my death. I know it sounds callous but I’ve long past caring now.

414435 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Andrew K, 16, #1349 of 1392 🔗

That is just chilling. To threaten to report you to the police.

Jonathan Sumption needs to stop using the present participle and say this nation, the United Kingdom, has become a police state.

414439 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Andrew K, 13, #1350 of 1392 🔗

They’ve been emboldened lately. I do hope the real truth emerges soon as the damage is already great.

414494 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Andrew K, #1351 of 1392 🔗

Freud would have something to say about his reaction!

414428 swedenborg, 9, #1352 of 1392 🔗

The UKs response to the many D vitamin studies is disappointing. The early suggested Vitamin D supplement on an effective dose was never implemented in care homes. Vitamin D needs to be taken regularly to build up Vitamin D but faster Vitamin  D treatment  are shown in several Spanish studies also RCT , first  links to  three Spanish studies. Then,finally two other links explaining Vitamin D antiviral effect in epithelia in lungs and one of the links is before C-19 and discusses the general anti viral effect of Vitamin D

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960076020302764

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3771318

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1876382020314529

General effects of Vit D in C-19 and general virus.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.590459/full

A Network-Based Analysis Reveals the Mechanism Underlying Vitamin D in Suppressing Cytokine Storm and Virus in SARS-CoV-2 Infection https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166354216303692 Vitamin D increases the antiviral activity of bronchial epithelial cells in vitro

414440 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 25, #1353 of 1392 🔗

In an exercise in masochism I looked at Hancock’s twitter feed, I lost count at around 16 tweets and re-tweets about vaccines sent out today, I think he must be both deranged and desperate. The covid data on the NHS/Gov dashboard is all falling fast and it as if he needs to keep up the hysteria to ensure a continuing take up of the vaccine. As the vaccine campaign moves to the under 70’s they are into a group increasingly less vulnerable to covid and so if the data is falling, the impetus to get ‘jabbed’ could fade away. I know of a number of people who are not totally anti vaccine but do not feel vulnerable and are saying they will wait and see how it goes when the older group get their second jab before they think about taking up the vaccine offer. There are also a number of people who are saying they will wait and see what the actual requirements are for vaccines and overseas travel before they contemplate the jab.
I may well be wrong but the next phase of the vaccine drive could prove a bit tricky for them.

414455 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Steve Martindale, 18, #1354 of 1392 🔗

That’s because the the under 70s aren’t in care homes where they can be injected at will and without permission, while the people in their 50s pressurising their elderly parents to be injected won’t be so keen to take the risk themselves.

414457 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Steve Martindale, 16, #1355 of 1392 🔗

He’s a bona fide lunatic. The only way it could be more obvious was if he wiggled his finger between his lips and made a sound at the same time.

414485 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #1356 of 1392 🔗

I think it’s because they’d dug themselves into such a big hole with lockdowns that they couldn’t believe their luck when the vaccines were developed so quickly.

Now they’re going all in with the vaccines in the hope that people will forget everything else.

Sophie Ridge (Sky News) has coincidentally just written an article on something called the recency effect here .

In psychology, there is a concept called the recency effect: a cognitive bias where the events, ideas or arguments that happened more recently are remembered more clearly.

If the vaccine rollout is the final stretch of the battle against COVID – will the previous mistakes be forgiven? Will Britain’s success in obtaining and administering jabs be remembered more than the failures over test and trace, care homes and supplying our doctors with personal protective equipment?

414441 swedenborg, 17, #1357 of 1392 🔗

Politics is working  in some countries
 https://www.praguemorning.cz/state-of-emergency-end-czech-republic/
The Czech lower house of parliament on Thursday rejected the government’s request to extend a state of emergency underpinning pandemic measures beyond February 14.

The Chamber of Deputies rejected the extension of the state of emergency in force in the Czech Republic due to the coronavirus epidemic.
The minority government said the decision would mean the end of nationwide limits on movement, including a night-time curfew, the lifting of a ban on public gatherings, and a reopening of retail stores. Some other measures may still be extended under different legislation.

414443 Les Tricoteuses, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 4, #1358 of 1392 🔗

Looking at this government page
https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment
It seems £120k is much less than courts might award for serious cases.

414453 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 5, #1359 of 1392 🔗

You have to jump through a lot of hoops for those peanuts.

414495 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to Anti_socialist, #1360 of 1392 🔗

I think you may have to sign some kind of Non Disclosure Agreement. Something like that – perhaps it’s that you can’t claim the company was responsible for causing the damage.

414500 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #1361 of 1392 🔗

Indeed. If you suffer such debilitating condition or injury, god forbid, highly likely that money will disappear faster than Dominic Cummings trying to go for an eye test.

414491 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 2, #1362 of 1392 🔗

I notice that the wording is ”as a result of a vaccination against CERTAIN diseases….”

You can bet they’ve made sure that Coercid isn’t one of them.

414526 ▶▶ Alex B, replying to Les Tricoteuses, #1363 of 1392 🔗

Indeed. When the Pandemrix vaccine caused cases of narcolepsy the DWP fought tooth and nail (no surprise there then), not to pay out under the Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme. This was contested all the way to the Court of Appeal where the DWP lost.
https://www.narcolepsy.org.uk/resources/pandemrix-narcolepsy

414454 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 17, #1365 of 1392 🔗

Anyone seen that film with Matt Damon in – Contagion?

The one where the human race is at risk of extinction until everyone writes their names and addresses at the entrance of the pub using a little bookie pen.

414459 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Tom Blackburn, 7, #1366 of 1392 🔗

Don’t forget the hazard tape and one way systems at Asda!

414462 ▶▶ Paulus, replying to Tom Blackburn, 4, #1367 of 1392 🔗

Wancock did and the rest, as they say, is history 🙂

414481 ▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to Tom Blackburn, 4, #1368 of 1392 🔗

Pure fiction that film. You can tell because they didn’t have one way arrows on the floors.

414486 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Tom Blackburn, 5, #1369 of 1392 🔗

The scene where they had a chicken and sweetcorn Cup-A-Soup in pretence off a substantial meal with their pint is vivid in my memory.

414479 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Tom Blackburn, 3, #1371 of 1392 🔗

Although positive to see the CRG being proactive, in my opinion it is still too slow to removing all restrictions, there is no need for them to continue. Still nearly 2 months for some businesses opening and could be goodness knows when for all the vaccinations to be completed.

414502 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Tom Blackburn, 2, #1372 of 1392 🔗

No legislative restrictions after top 9 vulnerable groups protected

Top 9 groups?! How many are there? That sounds like it could cover most of the population.

414475 Cumbriacracked, replying to Cumbriacracked, 11, #1373 of 1392 🔗

Not sure if this has been posted in the comments today, apologies if it has and I missed it.

Following on from Charles Walker’s “reining in” comments about Wancock earlier this week, if the article is to be believed he did not let up in a 1922 meeting. Good for him!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9257695/Top-Tory-Sir-Charles-Walker-warns-Matt-Hancock-Boris-sack-makes-gaffe.html

414483 ▶▶ Hound dog, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #1374 of 1392 🔗

The telegraph is running with coffee in the park from 6th March showing pictures of boris under a giant rainbow. Good for him and the 1922 committee but not sure it’s going to do much good it’s going to do.

414480 Nobody2021, 42, #1375 of 1392 🔗

I was just looking over the reports of the 40% of patients catching the virus in hospitals and it triggered a memory of recent events.

It wasn’t that long ago that actual medics were on TV and all over the media telling everyone that they had blood on their hands for not following the rules.

I could put this in far stronger terms but all I am going to say on that is…

HOW DARE YOU!

414496 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 7, #1376 of 1392 🔗

Can it be true? I don’t read MSM or watch any TV news. This is appalling! What parent would offer up their child for experimentation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U0FNI9LBjI

414499 ▶▶ Liberty, replying to Banjones, 7, #1377 of 1392 🔗

Sadly it’s true and it’s being suggested that if the vax works then it could be used to enable children to return to schools during future lockdowns. Horrifying!!

414514 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Liberty, #1378 of 1392 🔗

Ridiculous, then, isn’t it? Children don’t contract it anyway – so how could it be seen to ”work”? Absolute madness – why are ‘they’ dragging us down like this?

414522 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Liberty, 2, #1379 of 1392 🔗

If the vax works then why would we need lockdowns.
Have people forgotten how to think over the past year?

414531 ▶▶ Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Banjones, 3, #1380 of 1392 🔗

Nevermind whether it is worthwhile.
Bollox. Looks profoundly unethical to me. Children cannot give consent They experience no harm from SARS-CoV-2. They are at risk of harm from the administration of an agent that has not even completed adult trials. It beggars belief that it is assessed as legal, let alone ethical.

414533 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Banjones, #1381 of 1392 🔗

Baal Hammon is pleased that they plan to sacrifice their own children this time, not the children of the poor as previously which incurred his wrath and our defeats.

414498 Jo Starlin, 8, #1382 of 1392 🔗

Hitchens completely back on top of his game tonight.

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

414506 Hugh, replying to Hugh, 10, #1384 of 1392 🔗

“We continue to be guided by the science” – Government spokesman according to atl lead, 12th February.

What “science” exactly are they being guided by? Does that include the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service or other truly independent groups of scientists and doctors? If not, why not? Ten years for them?

If they’re going to threaten ten years prison for lying, they should be held to pretty high standards themselves. Just saying…

414508 ▶▶ Hound dog, replying to Hugh, 6, #1385 of 1392 🔗

It’s all being guided by Boris the tyrant and the technocrats. The Green agenda will follow bringing more misery to the people.

414520 ▶▶▶ Hugh, replying to Hound dog, 3, #1386 of 1392 🔗

Why are the “green” lobby so keen on Big Pharma anyway? That’s one I find strange.

414511 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 3, #1387 of 1392 🔗

This is a few months old now but worth watching, I think, just for a bit of a snigger before bedtime!
Professor Vallance’s advice back in September.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSmqxm8eMnk&t=2s

414515 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Banjones, #1388 of 1392 🔗

Cheers 😄 . That’s one I’ll be circulating.
Night night 😴

414521 Hugh, 4, #1389 of 1392 🔗

“Greater Manchester” is not a city (judicial reviews stop press). Just for the record.

414523 Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, 7, #1390 of 1392 🔗

Mail Online:

AstraZeneca said it would expand trials of its Oxford vaccine to children as young as six while Janssen, another pharma firm, said it may start testing its jab on newborn babies and pregnant women;

What sort of monster would volunteer their baby????

Police said officers would be carrying out spot checks on drivers today to see if they were making ‘non-essential’ trips to visit lovers on Valentine’s Day;

30 mins drive home tonight about 23.30. Saw one bus but no moving cars whatsoever.

414524 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Cheezilla, 4, #1391 of 1392 🔗

Non essential shagging trips? What if they pick up Ferguson at it again?

414532 ▶▶▶ Nymeria, replying to OKUK, 2, #1392 of 1392 🔗

He’s exempt, as we know.

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