Last updated2021-02-20T02:48:51



423747 bobdobbs0507, replying to bobdobbs0507, 108, #1 of 1640 🔗

Morning all! Don’t let the bastards grind you down!

423779 ▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to bobdobbs0507, 19, #2 of 1640 🔗

And so say all of us!!!!

423783 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 19, #3 of 1640 🔗

Absolutely. And they won’t.

424835 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Annie, 3, #4 of 1640 🔗

So true! Right now – it would certainly be appreciated if anyone knows how to do with trolls that play the “holier than thou” card on local Facebook groups during arguments. I’ve got one currently that is playing that one on a local FB group and doing the “I’m a scientist – and you are nothing” thing at me – even though I was born a generation before her and therefore was brought up as a woman, whereas she was brought up as a person iyswim. Little **** is trying to get me thrown off – though I’ve been perfectly polite to her! – and she’s not the first one (and may not be the last one I’m afraid) that tries to deal with a difference of opinion by getting the opponent barred – rather than actually answering what they say!!! Thoughts welcome..I’m getting very fed-up with these troll tactics that they don’t even try to give credible answers back – but just try and get us barred, where the thought doesn’t even cross my own mind for retaliating by trying to get them barred!!!!!

425098 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to ElizaP, 1, #5 of 1640 🔗

Never feed the trolls.

425102 ▶▶▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to ElizaP, 1, #6 of 1640 🔗

You can’t deal with people who essentially are just resorting to insults. They are just not interested in facts. Best move on and ignore

423796 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to bobdobbs0507, 6, #7 of 1640 🔗

Hear!!! Hear!!!

424035 ▶▶ popo says, replying to bobdobbs0507, 1, #8 of 1640 🔗

Hear hear!

424161 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to bobdobbs0507, 1, #9 of 1640 🔗

You mean the floggings won’t continue till morale improves?

423748 TheClone, 26, #10 of 1640 🔗

Welcome to Gulag Britain!

423749 Andrea Salford, replying to Andrea Salford, 95, #11 of 1640 🔗

From DM report ‘ Ministers are hunting for vulnerable Britons who have not yet come forward for their jab, warning that having large numbers of unprotected people could delay the easing of lockdown.’

God give me strength. My mum 82 doesn’t want it. She’s assessed the risks for herself and that’s her decision. Her reasons, all very sensible are:

‘I don’t want to be a guinea pig, I remember Thalidomide, that was safe so they said, I’m just lucky I wasn’t nervous about being pregnant or I could have taken it, there were two in the ward when I had you (me) and one of our neighbours, her baby only lived 1 month. Also they say it doesn’t stop you getting covid or passing it on and they still won’t let us out of lockdown so what’s the point? And they can treat it better now anyway. I’m not saying never but you won’t know the long term effects for a few years yet’

Any minister hunting for her is going to regret it. Good old mum.

Ps – great sceptics comments under the article

Depressingly Littlejohn is lost, clearly ‘had the memo’, he’s trumpeting vaccines, no jab no job and vaccine passports and conflating those that don’t want ‘the jab’ with probably don’t want to go back to work or happy wfh and worthy of a bell round their neck and ‘unclean’ board.

423753 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Andrea Salford, 51, #12 of 1640 🔗

That word ‘hunting” has very unpleasant implications.

423755 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Andrea Salford, 58, #13 of 1640 🔗

This is the most worrying thing I’ve read.There is no help coming from the media when high profile skeptics are coming out in favour of the jab.
They have sold their soul for 30 pieces of silver.

423864 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to jonathan Palmer, 25, #14 of 1640 🔗

Because it was ALL about the vaccine.

423936 ▶▶▶ Cbird, replying to jonathan Palmer, 15, #15 of 1640 🔗

Planet Normal has also fallen – this week came out in support of vaccine passports

424005 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Cbird, 7, #16 of 1640 🔗

So much for ‘normal’!

424731 ▶▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to Cbird, 6, #17 of 1640 🔗

I wonder whether the sceptical media personalities were intentionally or otherwise planted to lure sceptical people over to their side and then convince them to be vaxxed. The two pronged approach ensures greater compliance. We’re seeing it with lots of the great sceptical voices. As I believe this is a spiritual battle, I don’t think the individuals initially calculated it, but they have been used.

423761 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Andrea Salford, 51, #18 of 1640 🔗

Agree on both things there, Andrea.

Total respect to your mum. 🙂

Littlejohn’s definitely been bought. I never thought I’d see the day when he would come out with crap like that. I notice the commenters don’t like it either.

423781 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Ceriain, 24, #19 of 1640 🔗

Always thought that Littlejohn was a bullsh×ting bully.

423786 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Fingerache Philip, 28, #20 of 1640 🔗

Me, too. I still never thought I’d see him supporting garbage like vax passports.

423766 ▶▶ Alex B, replying to Andrea Salford, 54, #21 of 1640 🔗

Your mum’s objections to the vaccine seem perfectly sound to me; good on her!
The quote that you provide from the DM is sadly typical of the tone regarding vaccines.
Hectoring emotional blackmail tactics: if you don’t have your jab then if lockdown continues it’s all your fault!

423790 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Alex B, 16, #22 of 1640 🔗

More grooming for what is to come…

424260 ▶▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Alex B, 12, #23 of 1640 🔗

if you don’t have your jab then if lockdown continues it’s all your fault!

when you do have the jab and the lockdown continues whose fault is it then?

423770 ▶▶ TC, replying to Andrea Salford, 42, #24 of 1640 🔗

People like me, classed as vulnerable (not in my eyes,though), to be used as some form of human shield?
Get the vaccine or else everyone else in society will suffer – collective punishment – outlawed in war.
And I thought family pressure to be jabbed was tough enough to resist but at present resist I will until I see some form of reliable evidence I can accept – anyone got any?

423809 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to TC, 21, #25 of 1640 🔗

I’d be inclined, in your position, to show them the stats available to date of vax-related injuries and deaths. Some are available, for instance, on the website of Dr Vernon Coleman. Others in this months issue of The Light newspaper (freebie monthly online newspaper). Say “How awful of you to want to take the risk of adding me to the list of those stats!!!! Shocking of you!!!!”. Of course they will retaliate with saying they are only concerned for your welfare. The response to that one being “I’ll have it in writing from you please that you faithfully promise to be a carer to me – to the full extent required – free of course should my health deteriorate as the result of the vax”. Make it very plain you’d want that document from them – signed in blood in effect. But still not have it anyway. Your body = your choice. There are people already reporting that someone they know well has changed personality (and not for the better) from having the vax and so it’s not just physical ailments you’d be at risk from.

423812 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to ElizaP, 35, #26 of 1640 🔗

In fact – I wouldnt even bother to argue with them in your position. I’d say “I respect your views – and expect you to respect my views”. If they still carry on use the technique taught in Assertiveness Training. It’s called the Broken Record technique. That technique is to be used when someone is trying not to accept your refusal and persisting in trying to get what they want. You repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat the message – in the same/very much the same words. So, for instance, “I don’t want it”, “I don’t want it”, “I’m not having it”, “I don’t want it”. Sometimes it has to be repeated up to a dozen times or so before they realise what you’re doing and have to shut up – that’s voice of experience time LOL – but it works.

424166 ▶▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to ElizaP, 11, #27 of 1640 🔗

I do not consent.

423848 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to TC, 6, #28 of 1640 🔗

Good on you. Stick to your guns.

424101 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to TC, 2, #29 of 1640 🔗

The OpenVAERS.com website.

423780 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Andrea Salford, 33, #30 of 1640 🔗

Most of Littlejohns material about Charlie Mullins (Pimlico Plumbers) being in favour of ‘no jab no job’ he got from listening in to Vanessa Phelps who was covering for Jeremy Vine.
Subject was ‘no jab, no job ?’.

Most callers were in agreement but the two vaccine averse people were spoken over by gobby Phelps especially the second who had explained how she had recovered from pre-covid flu without medical intervention.

The person told Phelps that she was still wearing masks and complying with social distancing and her response was

”*You’d have to be jolly lucky for that to keep you safe from Covid* when there is a vaccine available . . . ”

Let the cat out of the bag there Vanessa.

423794 ▶▶▶ Van Allen, replying to karenovirus, 44, #31 of 1640 🔗

The trouble with these programmes is that they are so obviously censored and biased. Pimlico plumbers obviously believes the propaganda and were dismayed when their poll on Twitter (would you prefer to use tradesmen in your home who have had the vaccine?) didn’t go the way they planned. They pulled it 😂 . Remember to inform 77 Brigade next time you put a poll up!

424126 ▶▶▶▶ dhid, replying to Van Allen, 7, #32 of 1640 🔗

Mullins (Pimlico Plumbers) just hopes all his plumbers, with their extra arms grown after getting the jab, will get the jobs done quicker, so they can do more jobs per day, the greedy bastard! Lol.

423819 ▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to karenovirus, 17, #33 of 1640 🔗

Given the size of compensation payments these companies could be in for, it might be, ‘No jab, no job, no business’.

424179 ▶▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Basileus, 7, #34 of 1640 🔗

I’m afraid even in the worst case, the result would just be a smirking admission at the top the ‘mistakes were made,’ and at the worst a technical bankruptcy and minor rebrand for companies such as Pimlico Plumbers.

Without power, there will never be accountability.

425046 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Ovis, 1, #35 of 1640 🔗

Any agreement with your employer should cite the individual who is insisting on compliance. Make them personally responsible for financial compensation, as well as the company. Make the compensation a nice round sum of £5 million.

423793 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Andrea Salford, 40, #36 of 1640 🔗

My mum aged 84 has decided against the experimental vaccine also.

No pressure from me at all, but glad she’s made that decision. The risks of the vaccine harming her outweigh the benefits of it helping her by my evaluation.

423795 ▶▶ Thomasina, replying to Andrea Salford, 51, #37 of 1640 🔗

My Mum is 87, she has politely declined. She had a call last week from the NHS (not her Drs surgery) asking lots of questions and piling on the pressure. Her reasons – we dont know enough about it yet. I am pleased that she hasnt taken it, I am declining it too.

423818 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Thomasina, 28, #38 of 1640 🔗

If I find the NHS rings me – they will have committed an error to start with (because I rang my doctors surgery and told them not to contact me re the vax – as I won’t be having it). If, despite that, they ring me anyway – my response to a lot of questions would be “I don’t have to justify MY decision about MY body to you or anyone” and slam phone down. If they’re foolish enough to ring back to have another go at “persuading” me – I’ve got a whistle en route in the post that I bought ready to blow at the phone full blast and then slam it down again. Followed by taking it off the hook. It’s easy with a landline phone to just ensure that there is a message to callers saying “The NHS have been ringing to harass me about the vax. If you’re a friend please leave a message and I’ll ring you back. If you’re the NHS yet again – bugger off” and then take the phone off the hook and just check it at intervals in case of messages from friends. Don’t forget there’s a Protection from Harassment Act 1997 – check it out.

423822 ▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to ElizaP, 17, #39 of 1640 🔗

I contacted my surgery a while ago to tell them that I no longer had a home phone or mobile, so could they remove my numbers. I could hear the surprise in their voice that I no longer had a phone!

423857 ▶▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Freecumbria, 4, #40 of 1640 🔗

I’m someone who is not used to lying personally and so I’d struggle with doing that. Thankfully, they don’t have my mobile number (which would be a waste of time anyway – as it’s an old-style basic one I never have on anyway and just carried round switched off in case of emergencies). I must have given them my phone number though and email address – and figure I can deal with that (there’s always the spam folder to redirect NHS emails to).

423906 ▶▶▶▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to Freecumbria, 3, #41 of 1640 🔗

That was the old normal.

424150 ▶▶▶▶▶ dhid, replying to Freecumbria, 11, #42 of 1640 🔗

I got rid of my landline a while ago and only use a mobile now.

I had received an NHS letter and text telling me the “importance” of the vaccine, so when I got a call – from the corporate business that “my” (utterly useless) doctors surgery are now partners in – “offering” me the poison jab, they were surprised by my decline of their “offer”, and my statement I didn’t need it, so the caller asked me why.

I calmly told her the reason was that, “I simply don’t want it, and that is it and all about it, thank you, goodbye.”

The number they called me from, is now blocked on my mobile.

424354 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to dhid, 12, #43 of 1640 🔗

I received a text message telling me I should download the Serco track and trace app, it didn’t say where it was from but I guessed it was from my doctor’s surgery.

Then got another text saying a lot of people weren’t sure if a recent text about downloading that app was genuine. This one was from the doctor’s surgery and said I should download the app.

I must admit I had been under the impression my doctor’s surgery was there to help me with health issues, not to spam me with government propaganda.

But having realised my error, I knew it was time to get my numbers deleted from the surgery record.

424426 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ dhid, replying to Freecumbria, 11, #44 of 1640 🔗

Yes, they don’t give up easily.

My neighbour, in a “vulnerable” age group, allegedly, despite being fitter and more agile than many 20 years younger, has had several letters texts and phone calls and despite him (and his wife) telling them they weren’t interested, they received either a text or letter – not sure which is was – that said they might get a “visit” to be sure they understand the potential implications.

I recently discovered the area we live in (a specific largish unitary council area on the south coast of England) has been been identified – apparently by the Army no less.. – as being an area of high “reluctance” to the vaccine and may require additional persuasion tactics.

I should point out that the demographic is quite a mix of older retired residents and younger working age – both native and a mix of former EU citizens who have willingly settled here – and is certainly not a deprived area, nor one which has had a high “pandemic” death rate, so the “reluctance” is probably coming from mostly rational and not uneducated people.

We live in rather worrying times I think.

423862 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to ElizaP, 26, #45 of 1640 🔗

I’m assuming that when I eventually get the call it will just be an appointment time and date, and that there will be no attempt to explain the pros and cons at even the broadest level, let alone as they might appertain to me and my circumstances.

At which point I’m writing back at full blast on how they are supposed to ensure informed consent, and that by not doing so they are falling far below the ethical standards I would expect of a doctor.

Mrs TJN says that if they offer a jab to our children, which seems possible by the end of the year, she will report them to the General Medical Council.

My prediction is that the medical profession is going to emerge from this with a repetitional battering worse than that of bankers and the 2008-9 crisis, and that they will have only themselves to blame.

Happy to hear the views of any on here who work in medicine (TJS123 anywhere?). But I’ll take a lot of persuading otherwise.

423872 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to TJN, 25, #46 of 1640 🔗

Unless this is STOPPED there will be no emerging from this.

The roll out HAS to be stopped through mass protest.

As for reputation, I don’t think you quite understand: leaders of the medical profession have committed the GREATEST CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY in human history.

This ends ONE WAY or NOT AT ALL: bringing these people to account in a COURT OF LAW and if they are found guilty then DECADES in prison.

423946 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to FedupofLies, 4, #47 of 1640 🔗

How do you stop people from wanting the jab from having it? Should you?

The leaders of the medical profession are indeed guilty of a Crime Against Humanity, and should be brought to account; but I wouldn’t yet extrapolate to everyone in the profession.

425111 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to TJN, 6, #48 of 1640 🔗

I’ve had two letters from a central unit of the NHS, which was in Bristol, asking me to ring and make a vaccination appointment. Both letters went in the bin. A week or so later I had a call from the surgery asking me to make an appointment and also telling me that my somewhat younger wife could come along as well. We both firmly but politely said no.

Two weeks later the GP’s surgery rang again and asked for my wife to make an appointment, which she politely refused. They then asked to speak to me, but my wife said I still wasn’t interested. They then ended the call by saying that we would both be put on the “decline list” which I think was meant to be scary. As such, I wouldn’t be that surprised, to find a couple of government’s heavies at the door before too long and if so, I shall no longer be remotely polite.

425395 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Rowan, #49 of 1640 🔗

May have to keep some pitchforks and shovels handy. Since they don’t let you have real weapons.

423972 ▶▶▶▶ davesmart, replying to ElizaP, 6, #50 of 1640 🔗

In addition to protection from harassment act, you can always tell them to delete your number from their database then, if you get another call, go after them with the data protection act.

424199 ▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Thomasina, 3, #51 of 1640 🔗

I said “No” to the first call from my GP and have ignored all 6 0r 7 others, mainly from NHS.

The Great Recall with Dr Reiner Fuellmich ::

Lots in German I had to skip – Fuellmich translated – report from Israel near end of video tells of tens of deaths and 400 adverse reactions per week after vaccinations. Lots of interesting legal cases discussed.

423803 ▶▶ Llamasaurus Rex, replying to Andrea Salford, 39, #52 of 1640 🔗

I’m just in my 50s, gp reception called yesterday, full of joy…offering me a golden ticket. I said “no thank you”. I could hear her fall off her chair. “Oh, ok then. Good bye” she said, once she’d got back to the phone.

423860 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Llamasaurus Rex, 12, #53 of 1640 🔗

Standard response I guess – there are a lot of people that react with surprise and incredulity to being told one won’t be having it. I just can’t make up my mind sometimes whether it’s fake “surprise and incredulity” or real “surprise and incredulity”.

423903 ▶▶▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to ElizaP, 12, #54 of 1640 🔗

It’s real. When debating the scamdemic with some of these sheople, they resort to using what they think is their ace card – “so are you not going to be having the vaccine when offered then?”. You can see in their pleased faces that they think this question is the ultimate snare. They honestly can’t comprehend saying no to it, they (tellingly) assume I have no conviction and am lying in my response.

423885 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Llamasaurus Rex, 14, #55 of 1640 🔗

The bedwetters on another site I follow (actually a fitness site but they have general threads and it’s an interesting window on the world of the masked and sanitised NPCs) are burbling with excitement and happiness as they and their loved ones are offered the jab. Out of a recent poll 25% had had it, 72% were looking forward to it and only 3% were refusers. I think it’s a losing battle out there, I intend to just quietly refuse, the civilians can suffer the consequences.

424275 ▶▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Llamasaurus Rex, 3, #56 of 1640 🔗

The “Good Bye” probably meant you have just been removed from your surgeries list.

423947 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Andrea Salford, 31, #57 of 1640 🔗

It is not your mother who is delaying the end of lockdown. It is the regime itself that is choosing to do so.

‘Look what you made me do,’ is the great lie of abusers everywhere, and we must always call it out.

423996 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Andrea Salford, 15, #58 of 1640 🔗

Funnily enough I did think the last time I caught up on his articles that he was shifting his position. Full support for vaccines and his criticisms of Johnson were clearly being toned down. He traditionally made his money by attacking the police for their ridiculous behaviour but when it comes to Britain turning into a police state they withdraw their criticism. I left a comment saying what a scumbag he was.

This is the problem with sceptics starting to welcome vaccines….its difficult to avoid a slippery slope to health passports and ultimately support for lockdown until they have been rolled out. Sadly that also applies to the editors of this site!

The real divide now is between those who are opposed to Big Pharma vaccination programmes and the coming health passports and other elements of the Great Reset and everyone else. The former group comprises almost all of the political spectrum and most of the Right have now joined forces with the much of the Left who have supported all this from day one.

Those of us who don’t want to live in this nightmare dystopian world may ultimately find ourselves in prison much like conscientious objectors in wartime.

424154 ▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Boris Bullshit, 11, #59 of 1640 🔗

Those of us who don’t want to live in this nightmare dystopian world may ultimately find ourselves in prison…

We’re already under house arrest, so what’s the difference? Besides, there aren’t enough prison cells to hold us all anyway; unless of course The Regime lets the convicted lifers out on probation to be Covid Wardens or security guards at their local branch of Ratco’s?

424032 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Andrea Salford, 5, #60 of 1640 🔗

Richard LittleCock

424070 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Andrea Salford, 23, #61 of 1640 🔗

“12 hours later I was shaking like Terry McCann locked in an industrial freezer and spent the night hallucinating like my old hippie mate Spot, who dropped a tab of bad acid during the Jimi Hendrix set at the 1970 Isle of Wight pop festival and convinced himself he had snakes coming out his eyes.

When I emailed my GP with my symptoms the next day he told me not to worry because he’d had exactly the same violent reaction to the Oxford/AstraZeneca version.”

“Not to worry”?
So this doesn’t count as an adverse reaction? They don’t think that this kind of adverse reaction couldn’t kill someone elderly and frail?
And it still doesn’t stop you catching it? What kind of vaccine is this? I’ve never heard of a vaccine that makes people this ill afterwards. It has killed some people, made them blind, given them Guillain Barre disease, or Bell’s palsy. We don’t hear much about that, do we? Or anyone who’s died of anaphylactic shock, even though there have been cases in the US. Do we really think there have been none in the UK?

424122 ▶▶ HelenaHancart, replying to Andrea Salford, 12, #63 of 1640 🔗

My mum’s 78. She told them politely, “No!” especially when they wanted her to travel 20 odd miles to a certain hospital to have it!

424809 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Andrea Salford, 4, #64 of 1640 🔗

WTF ! That’s insane , if he’s gone then how many others ? What are they being threatened with ??

424991 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #65 of 1640 🔗

I posted a comment.”Richard won the battle with himself.He finally loved Big Brother”.It wasn’t posted

425070 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to jonathan Palmer, 2, #66 of 1640 🔗

Hmmm I wonder why that was. Littlejohn likes to makes out he is a big man. He is actually nothing other than a coward. He supported the first lockdown as it was too scary to be seen away from the herd. Peter Hitchens has more guys in his little finger than Littlejohn has in his fat arse. Then Littlejohn started to get more critical of lockdown in the summer when he thought it was safe to come out. Now the vaccine is the new ‘conventional wisdom’ he has not got the guts to oppose that either. The man is an unprincipled piece of filth.

425003 ▶▶ popo says, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #67 of 1640 🔗

From DM report ‘ Ministers are hunting for vulnerable Britons who have not yet come forward for their jab, warning that having large numbers of unprotected people could delay the easing of lockdown.’

NO. Ministers… could delay the easing of lockdown [I didn’t know covid was a brain parasite that way!]

423750 jonathan Palmer, replying to jonathan Palmer, 115, #68 of 1640 🔗

The mass testing of school children serves 2 purposes.The first is to create high numbers of ‘infections’ to maintain lockdown.The second is to make life so burdensome that we submit our children to the vaccine.
Without the children being jabbed a vaccine passport system cannot work.

423953 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to jonathan Palmer, 29, #69 of 1640 🔗

A third: systematically destroy the presumption of individual bodily autonomy. The message is that the state owns your arse, rubbed in with a stick up your nose twice a week. These children will take it as normal.

423997 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Ovis, 28, #70 of 1640 🔗

Evil on every level

424874 ▶▶ doug, replying to jonathan Palmer, 4, #71 of 1640 🔗

The ONS methodology says they are using 60% as the false Negative rate.

They say this because the test is so unreliable because people are testing themselves so it is more likely to be inaccurate.

They are doing this so that then they can increase the actual number of positive test by 40% for the “modelling”

It’s simply layer upon layer upon layer of BS.

Read the open letter to the Gov from a load of doctors questioning the sudden ramp up in deaths just after vaccination started 🤔


Ironic that the two peaks in deaths during this pandemic were both CREATED by government policy

Spring was when the all the old people were refused admission to hospital and funny enough all died


Then Dec 2020 mass live trial of a new Vax effectively wiped out the rest of the elderly

425140 ▶▶ Silver cat, replying to jonathan Palmer, 2, #72 of 1640 🔗

Do not take the vaccine under any circumstances

423752 Bigade, replying to Bigade, 33, #73 of 1640 🔗

Minor cause for optimism; when I see Paul Nuki writing an article about Tony ‘the turd that won’t flush’ Blair I realise they really are scraping the bottom of a very small barrel. Blairs past record in his ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory is not to be sniffed at.


424280 ▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Bigade, 8, #74 of 1640 🔗

Tony ‘the turd that won’t flush’

Tony the floater – I just love that!

423754 nickbowes, replying to nickbowes, 66, #75 of 1640 🔗

Have been some strong contenders in my lifetime but this awful and deceitful Government is the most incompetent in my lifetime. Johnson and co need to be in jail.

423756 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to nickbowes, 55, #76 of 1640 🔗

They are not incompetent.They have been very efficient in enslaving the country.Prison is too good for them.

423763 ▶▶ Annie, replying to nickbowes, 55, #77 of 1640 🔗

The worst in our lifetime? The worst and wickedest ever. Not the worst of tyrants, not the weakest of fools, not the most corrupt self-seekers, ever deleted people’s faces, isolate pd and imprisoned everybody, closed churches, or forbade every meaningful human activity.

423833 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Annie, 21, #78 of 1640 🔗

agree. until there is a ‘coronaberg’ trial, and ALL those who contributed are punished, with the death penalty for the ringleaders, then we will never shake off this tyranny

423834 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to nickbowes, 20, #79 of 1640 🔗

Incompetent? I wish.


423877 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to nickbowes, 13, #80 of 1640 🔗

Why are you saying this RUBBISH! DO you not read threads?

This is all ON PURPOSE

They have an AGENDA?!


I am seriously considering giving up on this site if I read any stupid comments like this again.

423928 ▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to FedupofLies, 13, #81 of 1640 🔗

People comfort themselves with delusions, in this case, incompetence instead of corruption. The truth is just too overwhelming, and they’re not prepared to go down the dark rabbit-hole it reveals. I call it Complex Cognitive Dissonance Disorder, and I’d say, at a conservative estimate, 90% of the general public are afflicted.

424018 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Jinks, 6, #82 of 1640 🔗

In that case we’d better be there for when they snap out of it

424046 ▶▶ popo says, replying to nickbowes, 2, #83 of 1640 🔗

The Isle of Man … Send them there and if they misbehave we still have St Helena don’t we?

424509 ▶▶▶ Woden, replying to popo says, 2, #84 of 1640 🔗

Or the Isle of Wight where David Icke lives

423757 PatrickF, 34, #85 of 1640 🔗

Good morning fellow inmates and disease vectors. Thanks for the comments, analysis, common sense and chuckles.

423758 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 64, #86 of 1640 🔗

The flaw in the thinking of those who want to impose a totalitarian society (and those who fear it) is that they imagine that locked down society can continue. I very much doubt it – a functioning society whether free or totalitarian requires a functioning economy to feed and shelter its population. That is true for the most primitive societies, let alone those which require advanced technology to keep going.

The lunatics at the WEF, in the Government and at Imperial College have never given the slightest thought to how societies function. They are more brain dead than the person who has a job and who thinks no more of life beyond Coronation Street and the footie on Satudays (apologies for my stereotype). They take everything that keeps society going fro granted.

423771 ▶▶ Bigade, replying to Londo Mollari, 46, #87 of 1640 🔗

They are caught in a dilemma (for them). Covid seems to be slipping away, but they’ve not dragged the vaccine/passport shite across the line. The next couple of weeks and months are going to be very testing for all. Who blinks first; government or people?

423829 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Bigade, 28, #88 of 1640 🔗

don’t worry, the ‘vaccine’ deaths will kick in soon, and then the fun will REALLY start – then we will have a REAL pandemic, with mass illness and deaths – the morons will be told that it is just a continuation of the fake one that they already believe exists

424377 ▶▶▶▶ abbie s, replying to JaneHarry, 12, #89 of 1640 🔗

The odd thing is, I still know of no one who has died from the covid virus or indeed anyone who even had the virus ( knowingly – I know of many who think they may have had it back in November/December 2019) but I do know of one person who has died from a reaction to the vaccine.

I cannot be convinced of the safety of a vaccine like that.

424863 ▶▶▶ ColoradoGirl, replying to Bigade, 1, #90 of 1640 🔗

You’ve nailed it.

423817 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Londo Mollari, 32, #91 of 1640 🔗

Agree. Trouble with say the likes of the clowns at Imperial is that they’re academics and they live in cloud cuckoo land. When I was doing my unfinished PhD I was very unimpressed with the academics I’ve met, they were so divorced from reality and clearly have no idea how to deal with everyday issues that I found myself constantly thinking “they should go out more”

Ditto for the losers in government.

As for the lunatics in the WEF many of them are so wealthy that they have long been removed from how real people live.

423839 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Bart Simpson, 34, #92 of 1640 🔗

I think there’s a lot of people that don’t realise how things are ITRW (In the Real World). It’s not just academics – though there’s certainly quite a few of them in this mindset. Right now – I’m living in an area of the country where a noticeable number of comfortably off middle class people retire to and some of them have had good careers/ones that would denote “person of intelligence” one would have thought – but lots of them don’t seem to have any concept of how things are for “yer ordinary person in the street”. So I’m just as intelligent as them – though I had a job that wouldn’t give any indication of the fact (rather than a career) and the basic reason I have less money than them is because I’m single and always have been. So I’m just as intelligent as them and just as middleclass as them – but THE difference is “I do comprehend what things are like for yer ordinary person in the street” – because I’ve had no more money than them/had the same level of job insecurity and spent most of my life struggling money-wise and without the evidence the wealthier have of level of brainpower/contacts/etc. That’s the thing – these people have always been several “rungs up the ladder” from the ordinary person in the street and the gap is too big for them to see the rest. Whereas I’ve only been a couple of rungs up the ladder and can see all too clearly the effort I’ve had to make not to fall to the bottom of the ladder and have a pretty good idea what it’s like there and it’s felt like a real and present risk to avoid falling. Hence I do sympathise – having had to fight to prevent getting knocked off the ladder.

423849 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to ElizaP, 16, #93 of 1640 🔗

Agree. As for millenials many of them are still not really used to the real world, still ensconed with their university mindset and still able to run to mummy & daddy if they run into difficulties.

423881 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Bart Simpson, 5, #94 of 1640 🔗

Mummy and Daddy are going to be dead pretty soon

424011 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to FedupofLies, 3, #95 of 1640 🔗

Or can’t help if they’re made redundant or bankrupt.

423866 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to ElizaP, 14, #96 of 1640 🔗

Good post. The blindness and self-entitlement of the middle classes is the real disease at the heart of our society.

424087 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 13, #97 of 1640 🔗

Interesting comments about academics Bart. I remember when I was an undergraduate I was rather overwhelmed by the seduction of the environment and was in awe of the lecturers….but then I was only 19! Later on in my late 30s I ended up doing some part time teaching in the same university and I then saw them in a very different light. The aura had evaporated and what I saw was how out of touch they were and realised I had far more respect for the average plumber or electrician.

424505 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Boris Bullshit, 4, #98 of 1640 🔗

I had the a similar epiphany to you. When I was doing my degree in the Philippines, my lecturers always said that you know that a country has a good educational system when over 90% of jobs didn’t need a university degree as a requirement. The UK was held as the gold standard (as its universities especially Oxbridge). That illusion was soon shattered when I arrived here to do my MA and all my awe and respect for academia evaporated when I startred my PhD!

423823 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Londo Mollari, 24, #99 of 1640 🔗

it’s not intended to continue. the plan is that 3 years from now most of us will be dead. our society, economy – all gone, and whatever is ‘built back better’ will be for the ‘benefit’ of a drastically shrunken population

423840 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Londo Mollari, 22, #100 of 1640 🔗

I don’t know if you’ve read Schwab’s “Great Reset” book Londo but perpetual lockdown isn’t what they want.

Lockdown and the other collective punishments are only there to manoeuvre us into a position where we willingly accept the level of control and monitoring they want to impose on us, in return for which we get some semblance of the freedom we once knew.

423863 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Katabasis, 25, #101 of 1640 🔗

But my point is that they are making the huge assumption that there is a society left to control. Just to make one silicon chip requires a huge number of steps, mining capacity, processing capacity massive quantities of energy and so on. Think of how many experts are required to make a vehicle run, or keep Gates’s private planes in the air. I think they are drunk on their own rhetoric. Gates and Schwab can buy anything they desire in a fully functioning society. Their power will disappear once a fully functioning civilisation collapses.

423883 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Londo Mollari, 4, #102 of 1640 🔗

There will still be personnel for themselves. Also, Amazon warehouses are due to be automated within ten years. The bulk will be done by robots.

423895 ▶▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to FedupofLies, 11, #103 of 1640 🔗

Don’t believe the robot hype.

Even if it were true, in the real world not only does the production – and maintenanance – of robots depends on a large network of support, not just directly, but also indirectly, as in energy supplies for example.

424261 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to rockoman, 2, #104 of 1640 🔗

But can’t they get the blacks in Africa who they pretend to love so much to continue producing those raw materials and such? Just like they do for their smart phones.

I was thinking that the economy in Western countries would be ( were they to succeeed, these scum, and I pray they do not ) a permanent populational management economy and a farm for gene experimentation and organ harvesting and such.

424661 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to rockoman, 1, #105 of 1640 🔗

Skynet will learn at a geometric rate.

424511 ▶▶▶ Woden, replying to Katabasis, 1, #106 of 1640 🔗

And you will own nothing…and be happy!

424361 ▶▶ BertieFox, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #107 of 1640 🔗

You might be right. However, as I understand it, depopulation (genocide?) is very much the plan going forward. They might be ballowing for just enough resources for whoever is left after that.

423759 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 57, #108 of 1640 🔗

Tony’s back… was he ever away?

I’ll be shocked if this stays up. 😉

423765 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ceriain, 11, #109 of 1640 🔗

Saddam Coviddein.

423869 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Ceriain, 30, #110 of 1640 🔗

Always good to have Blair on the other side of the argument from you – both in that it confirms you are correct and that there’s a fair wind in your sails towards winning he struggle.

An odious creature.

423879 ▶▶ Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), replying to Ceriain, 21, #111 of 1640 🔗

The Blair Bitch Project?

423884 ▶▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), 3, #112 of 1640 🔗


424671 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), 2, #113 of 1640 🔗

Brilliant! Wish I’d thought of that while I was making the image. 🙂

423760 primesinister, 5, #114 of 1640 🔗

https://youtu.be/bi2_2ogPMvo summink for an early morning laugh.

423762 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 20, #115 of 1640 🔗

Posting here on behalf of the good Lady C.

She believes one of the reasons they continue to get away with this is that having seen so many carrots dangled in front of them, and then taken away, the UK public see nothing but sticks now.

423767 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ceriain, 19, #116 of 1640 🔗

Unfortunately they are afraid of the sticks, even if they have come to disbelieve in the carrots.

423801 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Ceriain, 10, #117 of 1640 🔗

The public are victims of narcissistic abuse. In this case it’s called Breadcrumbing


423764 Scotty87, replying to Scotty87, 48, #118 of 1640 🔗

The good doctor ATL reports that: “The ICNARC report also finds that there is evidence that patients admitted to ICU since December 1st are sicker in terms of blood oxygen levels than earlier in the year.

ICNARC use a ratio called PaO2 / FIO2 – which compares the blood oxygen level of a patient against the percentage of oxygen given to that patient by face mask or intubation…the lower this number, the worse the lungs are at passing oxygen from the inhaled air into the blood stream.”

One wonders if this change has little to do with the lethality of new variants, but everything to do with the fact that millions of people have been wheezing into filthy, fungus-laden masks for nearly a full year now?

423768 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Scotty87, 16, #119 of 1640 🔗

Interesting suggestion. Sadly, non-maskoids are so few that it wouldn’t be impossible to test the hypothesis even if they wanted to, which of course they never would.

423776 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Annie, 2, #120 of 1640 🔗

Sorry, mean ‘would’!

423769 Bungle, replying to Bungle, 33, #121 of 1640 🔗

One of your links yesterday took me to the Bitchute piece with Dr David Martin. Key things he says about so-called vaccines. They are not vaccines, they are ‘gene-based technology’ according to Moderna. They do not measure viral susceptibility or transmission. They do not trigger immunity, they create toxins in your body which they say the body will get used to fighting. Martin says it is the same as giving everyone chemotherapy for the cancer they might get. These therapies, along with PCR tests, are only allowed because there is a state of emergency. Take away the state of emergency and the whole stack of cards falls. He says your choice is simple “choose to live or be enslaved.”

423772 Laurence, replying to Laurence, 6, #123 of 1640 🔗

Following from my post yesterday about Gibraltar I came across this fascinating piece of ‘journalism’ in the Olive Press, a local newspaper:

Vaccine proves effects as Gibraltar COVID – 19 Cases hit rock bottom

it goes on to say that “Active cases have dropped to just 44 with only 11 people in hospital today.

Well, needless to say, hospitalisation rates are just about average for Europe at 326 per million population compared to 296 in the UK and 340 in Italy for example – full listing below.

Interesting they haven’t looked at death rates !

423958 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Laurence, 2, #124 of 1640 🔗

Is that because they have killed off many of the active cases with the vaccine? Seems highly likely.

423773 Will, replying to Will, 32, #125 of 1640 🔗

Thank you for an excellent update. The doctors was brilliant as always and reassuringly objective. The idea lockdown has caused the fall in cases is laughable. I can’t believe that anyone really believes that lockdown is responsible.

423775 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Will, 27, #126 of 1640 🔗

Nobody with a brain could possibly believe it.
About 90% of Britain’s population believes it.
No surprises there.

423789 ▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to Will, 24, #127 of 1640 🔗

On the contrary. Lockdown in England was so successful that it worked in Sweden too.

423805 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Crimson Avenger, 9, #128 of 1640 🔗

And so successful in California that it worked in Florida too!

423808 ▶▶▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to Freecumbria, 2, #129 of 1640 🔗

Maybe it was the other way round! Examples from all round the world.

423821 ▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to Crimson Avenger, 3, #130 of 1640 🔗

Action at a distance – like gravity.

423802 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Will, 15, #131 of 1640 🔗

Yes, excellent set of articles today. Thanks Will Jones and the contributors.

I like the chicken farm analogy.

The bizarre thing is these so called ‘scientists’ can’t see that they are falling for the chicken farm scam in thinking lockdowns work. Not only is it causing great harm, it’s frankly embarrassing that they are so stupid.

423828 ▶▶ Adamb, replying to Will, 7, #132 of 1640 🔗

Agreed. I realise he very much sticks to the facts, but I’d like to hear his retrospective opinion on quite how close we were to hospitals being “overwhelmed”. It seemed to me that after a week or two of media hysteria on this it went very quiet very quickly.

423859 ▶▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to Adamb, 5, #133 of 1640 🔗

If I am not mistaken, this is the first year in at least the last 25 when the hospitals have been below 99% capacity. It’s usually headline news and the NHS has never been ready for winter. Indeed I can remember Denis Howell being given this remit by Harold Wislon.

423774 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 25, #134 of 1640 🔗

Good update ATL today; well done, Will.

Should have just titled the whole thing: SAGE & Imperial – liar, liar, pants on fire!

423807 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ceriain, 3, #135 of 1640 🔗

Pantsdown fire.

423856 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to Ceriain, 3, #136 of 1640 🔗

Agree C, first article really sceptical instead of DT nonsense.

423777 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 31, #137 of 1640 🔗

Uberfuhrer Johnson shows his hand; he may be a vacuous, air headed, incompetent buffoon but credit where credit is due, he is strong on breathtaking naked political ambition. He is now taking a lead with the G7 in promoting vaccines to the developing world;
Nothing to do with virus, disease control or helping developing countries but everything to do with promoting our ‘Dear Leader’ as a major global player. He is planning that by the G7 meeting in Cornwall in June he will have a starring role as a major global figure…………and we are all paying the price.

423787 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Steve Martindale, 14, #138 of 1640 🔗

Perhaps the thought of compelling the G7 Jamboree Mandarins and their vast entourage spending 10 nights in the Newquay Travel Lodge will force bozo to abandon at least Passport quarantine.

423850 ▶▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to karenovirus, 14, #139 of 1640 🔗

You can be pretty sure that none of the entourage will be required to quarantine.

424497 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #140 of 1640 🔗

Ah! The gravitas!

423778 ElizaP, replying to ElizaP, 7, #141 of 1640 🔗

Good article by Dr Shaw.

423792 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to ElizaP, 21, #142 of 1640 🔗

Agree. Very good article.

We’ve heard that people are being sent information with vaccination invites that up to 1 in 100 people who get covid will die, going up to 1 in 10 in over 70s.

It’s misleading and people can’t make an informed decision from that.

The reality is that for a typical reasonably healthy person in their 40s, while it’s hard to evaluate accurately, the chances of an effective vaccine preventing their death from covid is perhaps in the 1 in 40,000 range at most. And someone relatively healthy in their 50s it’s typically at most around 1 in 10,000.

The NHS information is like a department store advertising a sale of up to 90% off where most items aren’t reduced at all but a few are reduced by a single penny.

How can the risk of side affects of an experimental vaccine not exceed that risk by some margin.

If we use micromorts of risk, a risk of say 1 in 40,000 is the equivalent of dying in a fatal road traffic accident if you drive a total of 6,000 miles.

The problem is that people aren’t good at estimating risk, so provided with such NHS misinformation, people make different choices to those that person if informed might make.

423870 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Freecumbria, 2, #143 of 1640 🔗

Good point. An analogous situation might be when manufacturers wish to charge an exorbitant price for their product and I’ve learnt by now that one way they phrase that price is to say “It’s ONLY £x” (so we all get the message of it being cheap). The second I see “It’s ONLY £100” (for instance) I instantly think “Ah – that means the real price must be about £50 – I’ll go and check other suppliers”.

423889 ▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to ElizaP, 1, #144 of 1640 🔗

“That’s just £10” is a phrase that always irritates me, when I’m paying for an item that is a bit overpriced but that I need!

423890 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to ElizaP, 4, #145 of 1640 🔗

Yes, to make money is the ENGINE of this as far as Big Pharma is concerned.

But the aim is to have an entire servile population quite literally as a farm for genetic research, the fruits of which will be patented once they are found to be safe and sold to who can afford them. This will involve nanotechnologies.

It is transhumanism.

This stuff I don’t know by what jab will kill off millions in a cull once the next coronavirus comes around ( propaganda intends to blame it on the virus ). See Dolores Cahill.

But it also screws around with people’s bodies in such a way that corporations will LITERALLY OWN you and your children.

Your children will be taken away for private experimentation. Possibly even farmed for producing children to create fetuses for vaccines.

It is about transhumanism.

By that time everyone is hooked up via nanotechnologies with the social credit cloud and the reset has taken place where money is all digital.

423901 ▶▶▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to ElizaP, 2, #146 of 1640 🔗

It would of course be just £99 in practice because it sounds even less.

423871 ▶▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Freecumbria, 8, #147 of 1640 🔗

“How can the risk of side affects of an experimental vaccine not exceed that risk by some margin.”

A risk set to continually increase, too with the talk of multiple injections every year . Unknown side effects aside, each time you take any vaccine you give your immune system a jolt and create a window of vulnerability which is precisely why until this insanity became the norm no one was expected to take a vaccine they didn’t need.

423961 ▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Katabasis, 7, #148 of 1640 🔗


The immune system is a wonderfully complex system honed to perfection through natural selection. Next to the brain it’s arguably the most complex system the body has.

I’ve used before the analogy of an artificial intelligence chess playing engine that learns from its own games and reaches the state where it wins pretty much all all of its games. But imagine a human adds in an instruction to the program behind the engine to never to give up your queen. Sounds plausible as queens are quite important in chess. But its opponents in future games realise it is vulnerable to a queen sacrifice, and the engine starts losing lots of games because of the vulnerability.

We are messing with our immune systems by introducing an experimental vaccine in the same way as we are messing with the chess engine, and the end result is we are creating vulnerabilities in the body to infection that other viruses can exploit.

424583 ▶▶▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Freecumbria, 8, #149 of 1640 🔗

The year of lockdown (as Julian always says, we haven’t really been out of it since March 2020) has also already messed with our immune systems. The fact that I haven’t had a cold for well over a year, while it might seem like a good thing, makes me concerned that my immune system isn’t getting enough of a workout and may be less effective in future. Lockdown for any period above a few weeks is a massive medical experiment on the population, to which we have not given our consent.

423873 ▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Freecumbria, 14, #150 of 1640 🔗

As professor Bhakdi says “I’m in my late seventies, fit, healthy and full of vitamin D. I am not afraid of any virus. It cannot do anything to me.It is not possible. 0%!!!

424564 ▶▶ Edward, replying to ElizaP, 1, #151 of 1640 🔗

Yes. Pretty much in line with my attitude to the vaccines. I’ve done a personal risk assessment of the two courses of action, taking the vaccine or not taking it, and decided that not taking it has an acceptable level of risk, whereas taking it has uncertainties which mean that I’m unable to assess the level of risk.

423782 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 32, #152 of 1640 🔗

Surely even the most compliant collaborating sheep can see that the “look him in the eyes, etc” adds are emotional blackmail on steroids!

423806 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 19, #153 of 1640 🔗

The emotional blackmail is directed at zombified morons and it works on them a treat.

423880 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Annie, 5, #154 of 1640 🔗

Doesn’t it just!! It goes nicely hand in hand with the tactic Covidians use (if they possibly can) of “I know someone that died of Covid” and then tell you about their auntie’s best friends neighbour – and it’s all to the good (in their opinion) if they can actually quote someone that is close to them (eg a parent). I am just so inclined to turn round and say “Are you sure that death certificate was accurate? What did it say?” and I certainly demanded to see the death certificates of both my parents (as they both died since Lockdown started). Fortunately, some at least were honest (or hadn’t underestimated me!) and those certificates were accurate and only listed illnesses I knew they had anyway. But I bet a lot of these people never questioned….

423827 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Fingerache Philip, 16, #155 of 1640 🔗

It’s Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy on a large scale. Sadly the zombies fell for the adverts.

The NHS and the ad agency who did those should be charged and jailed as the fallout from the advert will linger long after this shit show is over.

423838 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to Bart Simpson, 9, #156 of 1640 🔗

The spot features close-up shots of various faces – some wearing surgical masks, others ventilation masks. It ends with the message: “Look them in the eyes and tell them you are doing all you can to stop the spread of Covid-19.”

The ad was created by Jane Briers and Dave Cornmell and directed by Simon Ratigan through HLA. The media agency is OmniGov. Other agencies involved in the campaign are Freuds, MMC and 23red.


423846 ▶▶▶▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to stefarm, 8, #158 of 1640 🔗

Thank you. These agencies and the actors, writers and authorisers involved, need to be exposed.

423902 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to stefarm, 6, #159 of 1640 🔗

All of this information will be used at the next Nuremberg.

423909 ▶▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to FedupofLies, 9, #160 of 1640 🔗

Yep – we’re gathering the evidence. Personally, I’m also expecting a lot of the Covidians to turn round afterwards and say “We weren’t really Covidians – honestly” after the event. One almost wonders whether to take photos of them in their little facemasks then – as proof they went at least that far in supporting the madness and I bet there’ll be a lot of deleting of Facebook posts in which they supported the madness come the time (so copy them off now…….). But they’ll try and say “I wasn’t really a modern day Nazi yer honour”.

424023 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to ElizaP, 4, #161 of 1640 🔗

That will definitely be the case – loads of anti-social media mask selfies and posts berating “selfish” people and calling them “Covidiots” will be deleted en masse.

It will be our sacred duty to remind them that they were collaborators and allowed this nonsense to run and run.

424016 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to stefarm, 1, #162 of 1640 🔗

They should go on the list definitely – imprisonment in the Tower then on the dock at Nuremberg part 2.

These clowns should realise that being an accessory to the crime does not pay either.

424971 ▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to stefarm, 2, #163 of 1640 🔗

Those particular ads have the very opposite effect on me. I am filled with the most appalling hatred for the people who made them and I don’t give a damn about those patients who so disgracefully allowed themselves to be a part of it.

Nothing encourages me to break the guidelines more than those adverts.

423898 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Fingerache Philip, 4, #164 of 1640 🔗

You don’t know how many people question it. Would people think I questioned it from seeing me wearing a face shield occasionally in my local shop.

From me being a naturally unfriendly person anyway.

I don’t see many kids wearing masks around mine.

So, mass protest is the way of providing a visual aid to those in the shadows who may come forward.

423784 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 9, #165 of 1640 🔗

Smart facemasks! just when you think that people can’t get any more gullible.

423835 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Fingerache Philip, 4, #166 of 1640 🔗

Smart-scientific face diapers. Guaranteed to lose weight and get the chicks if you wear one as well…..don’t be anti-science now.

423788 CivilianNotCovidian, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 24, #167 of 1640 🔗

Did anyone watch the Cambridge Union debate on China last night? It’s essential viewing. Crystal clear that – unless we work very hard and fast – the CCP’s way of life will be upon us VERY soon. This way of life robs us of all our rights as human beings. This pseudo authoritarian state we are living in will be permanent. We must stop talking about a virus, we must write to all MPs and demand that they reject the tools that will usher in this regime IMMEDIATELY. Everything we have been subjected to, from masks to testing to hotel quarantining has been to groom us for this new way of life. These are the “dark forces” Charles Walker mentioned one his speech. We need to make the public aware. Urgently.


423904 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 3, #168 of 1640 🔗

China should do what it wants to do. China never forced this on the West. I am not even sure they knew the research going on at Fauci’s laboratory. I hope that Chinese young people bring about a similar situation to the 1970s in the West.

The Chinese were overturning police cars during their lockdowns. Courage!

423942 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to FedupofLies, 3, #169 of 1640 🔗

Very much specified the CCP… which is not China! It’s very worrying when people get this wrong. I always try to correct them. Chinese have been fighting oppression much longer than anyone.

424030 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 3, #170 of 1640 🔗

I see. To be honest, I am still very much forming my worldview. Having been thrown in at the deep ends of deep ends. I used to read Noam Chomsky and Chris Hedges and think I was informed. The reality is that the conspiratorial view of history is more correct and the anti-globalisation left is the distraction.

423791 nickbowes, 7, #171 of 1640 🔗
423797 CivilianNotCovidian, 11, #172 of 1640 🔗

Excellent edition today, Will! Thank you. Can we pay you overtime to be permanent editor?!

423798 l835, replying to l835, 3, #173 of 1640 🔗

Three more weeks of fun in Wales…

423804 ▶▶ Annie, replying to l835, 6, #174 of 1640 🔗

Well, it’s fun for that horrible, wrinkly little toad in Cardiff.

423799 BJs Brain is Missing, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 7, #175 of 1640 🔗

I now think of Johnson and Hancock as Governor General Johnson and Medical Governor Hancock of Globalist Province Britain.

423820 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 4, #176 of 1640 🔗

Cunt and co

423842 ▶▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to Tom Blackburn, 3, #177 of 1640 🔗

That suggests that they are more useful than they actually are.

423800 CivilianNotCovidian, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 63, #178 of 1640 🔗

Little anecdote for you, that’s really affected my perspective. I have an Ethiopian acquaintance. Hadn’t seen her in a while. She has a business here and kids in school. Saw her last weekend. Very depressed. Probably moving back to Ethiopia in September. I asked what life was life there. She’s visited in the summer and said it’s totally normal. All open. No masks. Not even any talk of a virus. I asked if they would try to roll out vaccines there. She laughed and says, “Just say the word vaccine in Ethiopia and they will shoot you.” Once bitten twice shy, I guess. Africa has been around the block on this one. Gates shovelled vaccines into them. They want no more to do with it. Now it’s our turn. Africa may be the future. Now that will be fun to watch!

423837 ▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 16, #179 of 1640 🔗

Much the same in Sudan and Egypt. Politicians and generals on TV wear masks most of the time but normal people in the markets etc. don’t. They are much more worried about the price of bread.

423922 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 14, #180 of 1640 🔗

Sadly, once they have dominated the West they will move to Africa and other places.

It has crossed my mind about claiming asylum in various countries. I am completely not joking, by the way. It has very much crossed my mind. The time for joking is over.

423939 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to FedupofLies, 9, #181 of 1640 🔗

It’s a daily conversation in my household. Where do we go? Not a joke at all. Very serious conversation. Costa Rica touted. Tanzania? Sweden?

424896 ▶▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 1, #182 of 1640 🔗

just saw this after i wrote sweden or ethiopia , see you there

423949 ▶▶ Hattie, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 10, #183 of 1640 🔗

Already considering which African country is a potential to move to, Tanzania being the most attractive. If push comes to shove and Blair’s dystopia becomes reality, then move it will be. Keeping an eye on the Caribbean as well and their take on mandatory vaccines, as there are 4 islands that if you can sell up and buy a property there, you also can apply for residency and a passport – just for the back burner of emergency options.

424894 ▶▶ sam s.j., replying to CivilianNotCovidian, #184 of 1640 🔗

wonderful news ! ethiopia sounds better than sweden now ,thnk read they might be for vaccines in sweden there went my hope of sweden as a sanctuary , now its ethiopia !

424961 ▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to sam s.j., 1, #185 of 1640 🔗

on second thought why should we have to leave our home country ,let ‘ s win here not give up . but vacation for sure [with out any vaccine of course!] glad to know there’ s sanity somewhere

423810 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 13, #186 of 1640 🔗

What a great set of articles this morning. LS have got their mojo back. Well done Will.

423987 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Basileus, 3, #187 of 1640 🔗

It was a tour de force of hammer blows on SAGE and the worthless Fat Boy and his (or Bliar’s) creatures.

423811 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 23, #188 of 1640 🔗

There were no pictures of any of the terrible trio this morning, so I thought you might like this.


423815 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Basileus, #189 of 1640 🔗

They will end up in the HoL instead of a ditch!

423832 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Basileus, 5, #190 of 1640 🔗

Fake News loves Shitty. ‘Doctor’ they call him. He isn’t. An expert they say. He is a clueless retard with slanty criminal eyes and a palate which indicates health issues. Another crumpled overweight half wit who teaches about ‘health’. Reminds me of the ‘personal trainers’ who look like a pear.

423941 ▶▶ Thomas_E, replying to Basileus, 7, #191 of 1640 🔗

Just posted this on my Instagram..my friends are loosing their shit 😆 One if the called me a murderous scumbag.

423995 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Thomas_E, 4, #192 of 1640 🔗

my friends are loosing their shit 😆 One if the called me a murderous scumbag .”

I always wonder about the idiots who come out with that kind of hysterical shit – are they just cowards who believe all the fear propaganda, or are they Leader-worshippers who just hate anyone questioning authority?

That degree of hysteria must be driven by some kind of strong emotional loss of control.

424029 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Thomas_E, 10, #193 of 1640 🔗

Anyone who thinks that the Fat Dictator, Wancock and The Two Ronnies of Doom have their best interests at heart needs to have their head examined.

The fact that a friend called you a “murderous scumbag” says it all – brainwashed and doesn’t want to hear alternative viewpoints.

424114 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 6, #194 of 1640 🔗

Unfriend this person! Do we really need shits like that in our lives?

423813 jos, replying to jos, 31, #195 of 1640 🔗

As the jabs are experimental gene therapy and the trials end in 2023, can I offer to be in the unvaccinated control group – helping the country by keeping my sleeves unrolled? I mean they need that so that when the adverse events appear, the unjabbed can show how effective and safe those jabs are.

423831 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to jos, 4, #196 of 1640 🔗

Are you prepated to wear a Yellow Star and walk on the other side of the street when passing the vaccinated elite?

423841 ▶▶▶ l835, replying to FerdIII, 7, #197 of 1640 🔗

By not wearing a face nappy or silly lanyard, we are already.

424034 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to FerdIII, 5, #198 of 1640 🔗

The yellow star is nothing to fear
It is a potent weapon and we should use it
optics people

423814 Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, 17, #199 of 1640 🔗

The experimental vaccinations in the over 80s have been so successful in preventing deaths that it has reduced deaths in the mainly un-vaccinated under 80s by the same percentage.

424074 ▶▶ popo says, replying to Freecumbria, 1, #200 of 1640 🔗

I see your logic there…

423816 Crystal Decanter, 4, #201 of 1640 🔗

The green screen is a bit bizarre and it veers dangerously close to comspiritard territory but it’s an interesting take none the less


423824 Peter Fitt, #202 of 1640 🔗

Hi Guys is it just me (and this is from my phone) but I need a microscope to read the Newsletter today, suppose I’m asking why the much smaller print?

423825 Katabasis, replying to Katabasis, 24, #203 of 1640 🔗

I have a weekly zoom meeting with friends to share how we are coping mentally and emotionally with this madness.

One of my friends came up with a great idea – stop telling people to “stay safe”, tell them to “stay sane”.

423852 ▶▶ alw, replying to Katabasis, 1, #204 of 1640 🔗

Thanks. Brilliant.

423867 ▶▶ norwegian, replying to Katabasis, 4, #205 of 1640 🔗

Start meeting face to face.

423868 ▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Katabasis, 3, #206 of 1640 🔗

The trouble with that is that the sheep who bleat “stay safe” believe they are indeed being sane!

423874 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to Katabasis, 4, #207 of 1640 🔗

and meet up – fuck zoom!

423893 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to Katabasis, 6, #208 of 1640 🔗

I was on board with “stay sane” at some point last year but most days I feel that the sanity ship sailed some time ago for me.

423913 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Katabasis, 1, #209 of 1640 🔗

Been doing that for months.

423826 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 13, #210 of 1640 🔗

Looks like we’ve gained a rare foothold. Scientific fact actually accepted by the MSM.

The Guardian: How the beach ‘super-spreader’ myth can inform UK’s future Covid response.

423891 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Tom Blackburn, #211 of 1640 🔗

Maybe it should also be used to inform journalistic standards?

423910 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to PoshPanic, 2, #212 of 1640 🔗

How did the Grauniad react to the Great Beach Horror at the time?

423830 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 31, #213 of 1640 🔗

ATL bullshit. ‘ Professor Whitty is a highly capable doctor’

No he is not. He is not a practicing doctor whatsoever. He is a bloody Professor of Medicine. Yes a ‘teacher’. If you can’t do, you teach.

None of the idiots at SAGE or the model-mafia or the Scientism-cum-Fascist oligarchy are doctors. None.

Shitty is the type of Gestopo agent who would happily send an LD sceptic to the Gulag.

Shitty rejects the Great Barrington Declaration.
He ignores real science.
He is a LD fanatic.

Stop fucking praising him.

423858 ▶▶ Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), replying to FerdIII, 8, #214 of 1640 🔗

Not a fan of him at all but he i s a practising NHS Consultant Physician at University College London Hospitals (UCLH) and the Hospital for Tropical Diseases, and Gresham Professor of Physic at Gresham College.

424156 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to FerdIII, 3, #215 of 1640 🔗

This kind of attitude of praising our enemies is becoming a habit. Even John Lee is now saying ‘we are all on the same side’. Sorry John we are bloody not…its like someone in a Havana jail for being a political dissident thinking Castro was ‘on the same side’.

Maybe some people are just too nice these days…they find it difficult to think of some people as evil enemies and are instead seen as ‘people in a difficult situation doing their best’. Pull the other one John.

423836 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 32, #216 of 1640 🔗

Tony Blair has released his own roadmap out of lockdown. Why do we care? Why would we listen to him? Why is he still worming his way into our politics. He was keen on ID cards and now he is busting for vaccine passports.

423843 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Liberty, 12, #217 of 1640 🔗

No IDs for Muslims or BAME. Just Whites according to Bliar. Pretty ugly and useless Home Sec Patel the Hindoo agrees.

423886 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to FerdIII, 6, #218 of 1640 🔗

Seriously????? Wow! Reverse race discrimination then.

424159 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to ElizaP, 5, #219 of 1640 🔗

Thats being going on for decades…muslim grooming gangs raped with impunity for years and it went uncovered ‘for the sake of diversity’.

423892 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to FerdIII, 4, #220 of 1640 🔗

Segregation, who would have thought it of the UK!

423915 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to DanClarke, 2, #221 of 1640 🔗

Yep – Rosa Parks ‘r Us – only this time it’s us English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh.

423920 ▶▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to ElizaP, 5, #222 of 1640 🔗

In fact – I couldn’t possibly identify as BAME – but I could self-identify as Muslim. I do have a belief system – and it’s a general all-encompassing one though. Do you think we’ll get questioned on the basic tenets of the Koran? Better go and google what they are then LOL….

423845 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Liberty, 4, #223 of 1640 🔗

Sounds like a ‘dodgy dossier’ to me.

424088 ▶▶▶ popo says, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #224 of 1640 🔗

It’s remarkable what the UK has contributed to the enrichment of the US of late. First ‘pubs’ and latterly ‘dossier’ – as in the Steele Dossier.

It was only twenty years ago when Jack Straw was struggling with his ‘CIA-isms’ by saying 9/11 had: “all the earwigs of Al Qaeda”

423853 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Liberty, 7, #225 of 1640 🔗

I suspect Boros’ roadmap will look suspiciously like Bliar’s….

423861 ▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to Katabasis, 6, #226 of 1640 🔗

That would be a concern. When people voted for Boris I don’t think Blair style leadership was what they planned on. Would a different leader have done anything different though? Is this entirely Boris’ choice or is he being guided from higher up?

423865 ▶▶▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Liberty, 8, #227 of 1640 🔗

I believe both – they are all compromised, yet they all made that decision to sell their souls.

423876 ▶▶▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to Liberty, 8, #228 of 1640 🔗

Elected politicians are only front men for some very shadowy, sinister people. It is painting by numbers. You can choose any colours you like but the picture comes out the same.

423998 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Liberty, 6, #229 of 1640 🔗

When we voted for Boris it was faute de mieux, and we didn’t vote for vicious totalitarianism. Nor, I hope, did those who voted for today’s non-opposition.

424093 ▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Liberty, #230 of 1640 🔗

From below I think – his willy or the horned one , though he doesn’t know the difference

423855 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Liberty, 7, #231 of 1640 🔗

Bet the roadmap goes via glory holes

424124 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Crystal Decanter, 2, #232 of 1640 🔗

Young Miranda
I posted that before I read the text 🙂

423882 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Liberty, 6, #233 of 1640 🔗

The only good argument I can see for ID’s is counter terrorism. In nearly every single attack over the last few years, it turns out the terrorists were already known to the security services. So why the need?

423900 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Liberty, 2, #234 of 1640 🔗

Exactly anything he does is bad.

424080 ▶▶ popo says, replying to Liberty, #235 of 1640 🔗

Does it take him anywhere near the Hague by any chance?

423847 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 46, #236 of 1640 🔗

Some of the things I remember the most growing up are the moments in time, stories or films where all seems lost and then suddenly someone or something comes to save the day.

The most memorable scene in recent times for me was The Battle of Helms Deep (Lord of The Rings – The Two Towers) when Aragorn rides out with King Theoden from Helms Deep in a last stand against the forces of Saruman. They are surrounded and all seems lost until Gandalf turns up with the Riders of Rohan to save the day.

There are countless examples of such moments that generally involve people in dire situations and are saved in some way, e.g. Dunkirk, the trapped miners in Chile or the junior football team trapped in caves in Thailand and many many more.

When I was 19 I spent a bit of time travelling by myself and the one thing I realised about most people is that we’re all just as scared as everybody else about being alone in the world. Every interaction we have with people stems from not wanting to be alone and reciprocating when others reach out to you.

I think it’s this fear of being alone that makes us all appreciate when somebody is saved from a dire situation. We imagine what it would be like to be trapped, the fear, the loneliness, the despair and then somebody comes to save the day. Everyone needs to believe that if they’re ever in trouble there will be somebody who can and will come to their aid.

I’ve often thought about all the people who have died in the last year in utter despair because they essentially died alone. I try to imagine what it must be like to live day after day wondering if somebody you know will come to save you. I wonder to myself how long I would/could go on for before I gave up hope.

There is no doubt in my mind that countless people have died in the last year simply because they did give up and there will be many more to come the longer we allow this tragedy to continue.

If I go back to imagining being on my death bed and my wife or my daughter, friends or relatives turn up I can then imagine how much happier I would feel. In a sense I would feel “saved” from the dire situation of dying alone with nobody to give me comfort. I might even feel the will to fight on and try to live longer if that was at all possible.

I don’t think I realised before now but the greatest gift that we can give is to simply let others know that they’re not alone in this world and we can never let people take that ability away from us again.

423851 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Nobody2021, 24, #237 of 1640 🔗

The hardest lesson for me in all this is just how many of my countryfolk, friends and family will simply fold and give into a horrific level of authoritarianism, including selling their own out for not sufficiently complying, simply because they are told to.

424063 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Katabasis, 8, #238 of 1640 🔗

Yes its not nice to realise you are surrounded by cowards and fellow travellers who would destroy you if necessary. We should not really be surprised by this though…..history is littered with such examples. Think of the ‘loving’ girlfriends who urged young men in 1914 to go to their deaths in WW1 for utterly pointless reasons. You have to sometimes realise that even those closest to you do not really have your best interests at heart….only you really have that.

423875 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Nobody2021, 13, #239 of 1640 🔗

Interesting thought.

I remember a number of Winters ago we had a lot of snow to a good depth on the ground and freezing temperatures for about 4 weeks. It genuinely seemed at the time like it was never going to end. But it did of course and suddenly the snow all melted and we were into Spring and Summer and then the subsequent winters have been much milder.

Hopefully we will come to our senses, lockdowns and masks and all the nonsense will go and we won’t be so stupid next Winter.

423907 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Nobody2021, 22, #240 of 1640 🔗

Well said.
The lesson I always take from Lord of the Rings is that there is an absolute standard of right, and we must defend that to the very end, even if the situation seems hopeless, because it is the right thing to do .
I don’t think our situation is hopeless, and I know that to go on fighting is right.
Like Tolkien, I believe that God is with us. Whether you believe that or not, NEVER DESPAIR. There us such a thing as evil, total evil, as we are experiencing just now, but we can only recognise evil because we know what is good. That knowing cannot be taken away.

423929 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Annie, 2, #241 of 1640 🔗

There are indeed Eternal rights and wrongs. My own standard of conduct is “Is this action I wish to take/idea I have broadly consistent with most societies at most times?” and it has to pass that test for me to know whether it’s moral or immoral. Thus many societies haven’t put women down as second-class citizens throughout the centuries/countries and therefore they are equal in eternal terms to quote one instance and any society that does so is in the wrong. Betrayal is widely considered to be immoral – and therefore it is so (whether it be betrayal by politicians, so-called friends, etc) – and so on and so on and that’s how I judge what is or isn’t right.

423932 ▶▶▶ Hattie, replying to Annie, 14, #242 of 1640 🔗

Yet, our priests and the church not only seem to be blind to the evil that stands before them but are condoning and supporting it.
When this is over, I will have lost faith and trust in most professional bodies, be it legal, medical, education, parliamentary democracy etc., but the one I find most distressing is the Church. How can I ever attend mass again and listen to the pontifications from the pulpit, when they have demonstrated by their inaction that they believe little in the teachings of Christ or the scriptures- our priest even ceased visiting care homes or offering the last rites, which to those dying must have been an abomination.

423993 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Hattie, 11, #243 of 1640 🔗

I feel exactly the same about our church, the Covidian Coward Church of England.
Maybe God’s plan is a complete renewal of ALL the churches. Back to the first days of Christianity, when Christians – just now, that means true Christians – were a persecuted minority. Better a persecuted minority than a corrupt, cowardly, hypocritical, sold-out majority.

424394 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Hattie, 3, #244 of 1640 🔗

yes, the churches were pretty useless in the third reich too, weren’t they. on the other hand, the persecuted christians are prominent in Solzhenitsyn’s writings as being among the few breathtaking examples of courage and resistance in the face of tyranny

424270 ▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Nobody2021, 8, #245 of 1640 🔗

My grandmother died alone in a care home during the first lockdown. She was left alone, not able to leave her room or have visitors. She gave up and just stopped eating to end it more quickly. How much more of this must we take before realisation hits home?

423854 alw, replying to alw, 17, #246 of 1640 🔗

I WOULDN’T say I was anti-vax but I do think that vaccination should be carried out only where absolutely clinically necessary. All forms of medication involve some risk, no matter how small. The decision to medicate our immune systems should be one that is taken with the utmost care and diligence.”


423914 ▶▶ Hattie, replying to alw, #247 of 1640 🔗

And Johnson is now advicating 100 days as a time period for new vaccine roll out.

423887 LittleMissSunshine, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 98, #248 of 1640 🔗

Thank you all for your comments so far this morning. Tuesday I broke. I phoned the Samaritans for the first time in my life. Ive not slept in 2 weeks, and my long term relationship is on the verge of breakdown. I feel overwhelmed and claustrophoic and constantly on the verge of panic attack at the pressure of lockdown. And im a “lucky one” working from home, nice house in a nice part of the country. I my heart breaks and the pain is almost physical for those in a worse situation than me, when i can barely get out of bed in the morning, feel sick and spend all day crying. As i HAVE to travel abroad for work, i have been told i will be required to take the vaccine if i need it to travel. I pray and hope vax passports do not come in to force, and the stress of having to make a choice on my job i love, my life, my livlihood and my rights over my own body are destroying me. Those saying its a choice, no jab, no job, are so insanely incorrect, short sighted and narrow minded its untrue. A job is an essential means to an end for most people in society, and it say its a choice is wrong. And for the government to undermind the jobs and lives of millions by classing them as “unessential” and closing them down… well i have no words. Society is like an ecosystem and every person, every job, every business plays its role, no matter how insignificant it may appear on the surface. You remove one part if an ecosystem (shops, restaustaurants pubs theatres hotels travel…) everything else suffers because of it.

Im trying to keep going, and this site and your comments help keep me sane. Knowing im not alone. We must not under any circustances let these bastards win and we need to keep fighting for every broken person out there. Society and democracy will surely win out again in the end, and its the only thing kerping me going right now is my desire to see their down fall. Sooner rather than later… i live in hope.

Keep fighting the good fight.

423894 ▶▶ Annie, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 33, #249 of 1640 🔗

We’re with you, sunshine. You are suffering because you are human, and refuse to be reduced to a robot zombie with no soul, no principles, no will of your own.
Take a little joy where you can. Go outside and observe the signs of spring. Smile at people.Talk to dog walkers, they’re almost all human. Never give in to evil. It may seem to triumph, but it never really does.

423896 ▶▶ Janette, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 21, #250 of 1640 🔗

Sorry to hear how you are suffering Little Miss Sunshine. We do all get days like that and it is absolutely awful. I had a bad day in December but like you I am determined to fight these bastards. I think more people are waking up. Stay strong and keep going. We will win.

423966 ▶▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Janette, 11, #251 of 1640 🔗

I hope with the vax not leading back to the free society promisef (which ive been telling people since december and been shot down constantly as conspiracy) will wake people up… i live in hope.

423912 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 16, #252 of 1640 🔗

You are not alone, Sir Charles Walker MP asked people to write to him telling how lockdown has affected their lives and he is getting sacks full of desperate stories. I felt like that yesterday seeing kids out at a garden centre in the sun, muzzled. Dont know if it helps to think of the vax as a means to an end in your case, ie employment and like the other vaccinations we are offered for many countries.

423962 ▶▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to DanClarke, 16, #253 of 1640 🔗

I actually wrote to him about 2 weeks back. Outlining the damage this is doing to my industry specifically. The jobs that will be lost in incalcuable. Charles for PM!

423991 ▶▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 18, #254 of 1640 🔗

Sunshine, I know exactly how you feel. I’ve been in touch with the Samaritans twice now, never had to before in my 50 years. Your concerns with the vax and your job echo mine. I have now been unemployed nearly a year and of course with aviation like it is there are NO jobs, but should there ever be a chance of flying again in the future I am terrified it will be no jab, no job. I am not putting that experimental crap in me.

Does anyone have Charles Walkers email, I’d like to write to him too.

424006 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Redundant Pilot, 3, #255 of 1640 🔗

Contact details can be found in his bio here:


424025 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #256 of 1640 🔗

Thanks Bart!

424055 ▶▶▶▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Redundant Pilot, 13, #257 of 1640 🔗

I work i oil and gas… if i cant travel no job for me either. The quarantines are already destroying the industry – its no physically possible to 10 day quarantine in country, 3 weeks on rig, 10 days home quarantine and thus the cycle starts again… when you work 3 on 3 off… there arent enough days. The new red list is crippling the industry. Its costing companies thousands and putting massive mental toll on workes who are now away from home for months on end rather than weeks. A lot of our clients are now hiring from the USA or enternally within their country as its easier to get them out so we are losing work because of it which we will never get back.

424175 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 8, #258 of 1640 🔗

Hope things work out for you Sunshine – it’s a shitty position to be in.
If your relationship is a bit rocky would it be an option to get out to the country where you’re posted for rig work and stay there for a year or so, and rent an apt locally for onshore leave? This would get you out of uk, take a break from other half and keep you working.
The travel restrictions are deliberately onerous to put people off travelling which is all part of their plan.

424460 ▶▶▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Redundant Pilot, 5, #260 of 1640 🔗

freedom airways no vaccine needed and there will be others dont give in, we are with you on this no way will i g et a vaccine a nd im going to travel
maybe by boat but ill get there !
there are many of us out there we just havent met them

423916 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 28, #261 of 1640 🔗

Been there done that 30 years ago over something obviously not related to covid

At that time someone who had been through it previously said “You may not feel like it now but you will get better” and in doing so saved my life

I now have a fantastic life despite the country being run by a nonce



423917 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 6, #262 of 1640 🔗

So sorry to hear you are struggling so.. You are not alone, hold fast to that. Make sure you get out as much as you can, take Vitamin D (at least 5000 IU), Vitamin C etc to keep your immune system healthy. I hate to say it, but if your feelings get worse perhaps consider some medication from your GP? I don’t say that lightly but it could help break the cycle of low feelings you are having.

423924 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 14, #263 of 1640 🔗

In reponse to pressure to take the vax, I think we need to say we are “pro choice”, i.e. My body my choice. If this impacts your situation at work SUE them! No company has the right to determine what you do with your body – that would be like telling you you can’t have a child!

I feel your pain – you are in the middle of a maelstrom right now. I hope your relationship can weather this storm – it helps to have a fellow traveller.

If you’re feeling the stress physically, consider taking some supplements. At their most basic the herbal Kalms night time tablets can help you sleep (they really do work), and are available at most supermarkets. To help alleviate stress more deeply, take some B3 (non flushing), vitamin C also helps stop adrenaline from oxidising and making us feel worse. A good multivitamin and a decent bar of chocolate helps too!

423926 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 9, #264 of 1640 🔗

I’m fighting for my grandkids and now you LMS. x

423990 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 6, #265 of 1640 🔗

As long as we have each others backs we’ll be fine. Act free, Stay, free, Be free

424004 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 5, #266 of 1640 🔗

Very sorry to hear this. I echo what other people have said here and also would recommend watching clasical music concerts, not the current streamed ones which are a reminder of our dystopian present but archived ones.

As a start I recommend this, one of my favourite pieces of music, conducted by a living legend (who ain’t afraid of no virus) with another living legend as a soloist (performed in 1992):


424057 ▶▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #267 of 1640 🔗

Ive been on the 70s disco, but ill take a look – thank you 🙂

424013 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 3, #268 of 1640 🔗

If you have a few minutes to spare, watch Dr. Randomercam’s anti-mask song. Cheers me up without fail every time I watch it:


425344 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Katabasis, #269 of 1640 🔗

Excellent. “paranoiac misanthropes in a world of doom & gloom”.

424197 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 7, #270 of 1640 🔗

As others have said you are not alone. My weeks are roller coaster like, some up and some down. During the down ones I am scared and not sleeping however during the up ones I turn that depression into anger and proudly go out without a mask, refuse to move out of the way for anyone and have developed a “glare” which I hope is as terrifying to the zealots as I think it is!

What allows me to gain strength is reading the comments on here and recently joining in the discussions, just knowing there are other people with the same thoughts helps a lot.

In a strange way, even though I would not wish anxiety and depressive thoughts on anyone, the fact that some on LS experience the same helps me understand that it is actually part of being sceptic for some of us.

424211 ▶▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Cumbriacracked, 8, #271 of 1640 🔗

Well said – i think the anxiety comes from knowing this is not right now, nor will it be right in the future and fear of whats to come. Most people i know are in one of two camps, either completely onboard and its almost a “moral duty” to comply, doing good for the good of society, or they they are hiding their heads in the sand and not WANTING to believe the truth – that this will continue and normal will never be the same again. Its a hard fight, and ive lost good friends over it… just for mearly saying i dont think lockdown is worth it! But you can tell from their faces that deepdown they struggle too. I genuinely think a lot of the general public dont WANT to believe the truth and are still clinging on that normality will return. It can return, but only when enough people wake up and fight back… i fear its too late for that now.

424465 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 3, #272 of 1640 🔗

There is a part of me which thinks it is too late, but there is probably a more positive part which believes as quick as everyone fell for this they will turn. If it was that easy for people to be brainwashed, once the narrative turns from any source they will all suddenly support that. It is probably that view which helps me get up every morning.

424294 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 11, #273 of 1640 🔗

we’re not dead yet, and they may yet never succeed, as you say, we may live to see the glorious day when they are all lined up against the wall and shot, and even if we don’t, we can die in the certain knowledge that they will all rot in hell. if these really are our last days, we should be sure to live them as fully as we still can. break their stupid rules whenever you can get away with it: see friends, hug the people you love, go out and enjoy nature, do whatever the hell you want – don’t yield ANYTHING to them. we always heard that we should live each day as if it were our last, we have always lived with the uncertainty of knowing when, but the certainty of the final outcome. what’s changed, really

424475 ▶▶ sam s.j., replying to LittleMissSunshine, 4, #274 of 1640 🔗

dont give in there are airlines starting no vaccine think is freedom airways , i just met another stranger who would rahter die than get that vaccine, and another person the same day who also wont ge t the vaccine and recently found out another friend of mine is also a sceptic from day one wont get vaccine there s more of us out there than we know!

g o out side[ no mask of course !] get sunshine little miss sunshine dont give in i wont ever,chin up

423897 Hattie, replying to Hattie, 20, #275 of 1640 🔗

Well, Mr Shaw ( the article on informed consent), I would have to disagree with your assertion that SAGE are very clever people as is Whitty. Good article though, although a central point to also mention would have been that these vaccines are still untrialled ( end date 2023) and on emergency approval and therefore should not even be rolled out to the entire population. In addition, emergency approval is reserved as an option when no alternative medications are available, which we know not to be the case. The lack of noise from healthcare professionals on this mass roll out is a concern; one ex nurse on UK column recounted how she had questioned some GPs on their knowledge of the ‘ingredients’of the vaccines and few appeared to be informed or rather had bothered to inform themselves; how then they can fulfill the criteria of informed consent, is beyond me.

423923 ▶▶ Crimson Avenger, replying to Hattie, 4, #276 of 1640 🔗

Interesting point here, the court in Holland which ruled against a curfew law, stated that as the matter was debated in their parliament, it could not be an emergency. In England only the enabling act was given any time for debate although all the executive diktats have technically been laid before parliament, and we are not in a state of emergency. (The Dutch govt is appealing today Friday 19.02)

423899 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 6, #277 of 1640 🔗

NHS Reset. Another conspiracy theory? Oh no, wait:


423908 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Basileus, 1, #278 of 1640 🔗

Sponsored by Moderna, Facebook and Du Pont

423918 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to PoshPanic, 3, #279 of 1640 🔗

Now there’s 3 companies we can trust!

423911 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Basileus, 1, #280 of 1640 🔗

Gods give me strength!

424105 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Basileus, #281 of 1640 🔗

Cheeky bastards – create the problem- “fix” the problem. Usual bloody revolving door

423905 mj, replying to mj, 10, #282 of 1640 🔗

re the story in woke section ATL.
“Proud Puffs”. Isnt this a bit homophobic? Can they refer to homesexuals as “puffs” these days?. Are any of the people depicted on the box from the LGBT community? Where is Christopher Biggins? where is Elton?

What next ? Hovis sold in a bag which says Black Loaves Matter?

423921 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to mj, 1, #283 of 1640 🔗

I was confused by the Flaysexual bit..sounded like being married to me.

423919 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 19, #284 of 1640 🔗

So many people seem apathetic about wanting to resume normal life, they just accept this ‘new normal’ as inevitable. Where is the the determination to hold on to all that makes us human? Human connection, in the form of hugs, smiles and daily conversations are not small parts of our lives, to be discarded, as if excess emotion and communication were unnecessary. These small interactions shape our days, a smile can lift our mood, a hug can heal a lonely soul and it is in the chitchat that we see one another’s needs. I am seeing people behaving like prisoners, inevitably accepting their prison guards orders. They are downtrodden and not determined , they are cowards and not courageous, they are broken and not brave. They have given up without even fighting. What will drive these compliant masses out of their slumber? Do they not miss their families, their friends, their freedom?

424021 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Liberty, 8, #285 of 1640 🔗

Like all victims of narcissistic abuse, there will be a wake up at some point, but not nearly as soon as we would like. People are being compliant out of fear, they are beng bread crumbed by the government to think lockdown will end and then it doesn’t – just a few more weeks each time.

Many are frustrated, but the lying press continues to tell us that we are the few and the compliant are the many.

The map today showing that over 90% of 70-74 year old have been vaccinated in East Anglia is not even possible – so many will have refused, but if they tell a lie big enough and often enough people (some people) will believe it – to their own detriment.

423925 BJs Brain is Missing, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 9, #286 of 1640 🔗

The truth about Boris Johnson [King of the World]


What have we done…

423948 ▶▶ isobar, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 7, #287 of 1640 🔗

Well worth watching, explains a lot!

424228 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 3, #288 of 1640 🔗

good video – he’s just a lazy, self indulgent, narcissist which is quite obvious and we are now suffering the consequences of having him in power.

424513 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 1, #289 of 1640 🔗

This is allegedly why Gove ‘stabbed him in the back’. Gove is supposed to have said he was too lazy and not leadership material. Not sure what changed unless, like all other politicians, Gove had a price, and Johnson offered him that.

423927 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 16, #290 of 1640 🔗


With no mask mandate and schools open, Florida ranks 11th lowest in COVID deaths per capita among seniors


423931 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to Basileus, 10, #291 of 1640 🔗

And correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t there like a gazillion seniors in Florida during the winter?!

423934 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to vargas99, 6, #292 of 1640 🔗

All year. Not just in winter

424133 ▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Basileus, 3, #293 of 1640 🔗

This note from Basileus inspired me to look at property prices in Florida . This ad , purely taken at random, is for a 6 bedroom , 5 bathroom house in a gated coommunity by a lake : https://www.aplaceinthesun.com/property/details/ap2662594/6-bed-house-for-sale-in-davenport-polk-county-united-states
could buy two of those with the sale of our 1930s semi .
Now, what paperwork do I need ?

424296 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to mikewaite, #294 of 1640 🔗

It’s pretty hard to emigrate to the US unless you have a confirmed job there

424706 ▶▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to Julian, #295 of 1640 🔗

Get a dingy?

423930 stewart, replying to stewart, 41, #296 of 1640 🔗

You know why government and officials are terrified of sceptics?

If a majority of the public starts seeing things the way we do, Boris Johnson and co. (and their counterparts in other countries) will all end up on trial for crimes against humanity.

The public will be so angry at what has been done and so determined that it never happens again that they will be made an example of and will either face execution or spend the rest of their lives in jail.

This is not some fanciful idea. When populations wake up and realise they have been conned and abused, the reaction is usually very very ugly.

423984 ▶▶ Annie, replying to stewart, 12, #297 of 1640 🔗

If? It’s a dead cert. They have committed crimes against humanity. In fact, they are doing everything they can to abolish humanity altogether. It will be the trial of Satan, embodied in his willing minions. As C S Lewis puts it, those who submit to Satan are ‘melted down i pnto their master’. You can see it already in their eyes.

424152 ▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Annie, 6, #298 of 1640 🔗

Absolutely right, Annie. We are constantly struck by the contrast between those people speaking out against this evil (the ones that have not yet been censored, that is) and the politicians and paid-off ‘experts’. The honest ones’ faces and eyes are clear, their integrity shines out of them.

Whenever we have the misfortune to see a clip of one of the evil ones talking you can see what’s going on in their eyes. Nothing. Dead. Their skin is often pasty and grey. They have to smirk and use weird hand gestures to pretend to be human but it doesn’t wash with us. They are dead. They have been melted down, as CS Lewis said.

We were watching the last V-revealed documentary yesterday and AlanG and I noticed it again. We were watching real humans. They are all American but they feel like friends.

 The contrast is now very stark. What is incredible to us is that so few of us can see it. MW

424185 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, 2, #299 of 1640 🔗

Perceptive post. I hadn’t consciously thought of much of that, but having read your post it is clear to me now that it has been in the back of my mind.

424420 ▶▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, 3, #300 of 1640 🔗

This is true. I have worked in the past with one of the SAGE members, and I can see the change in him. How he can look at himself in the mirror, I just don’t know.

424182 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Annie, 4, #301 of 1640 🔗

You are 100% right. If the sceptical view was not a worry to the government, they would not be so much effort into keeping us quiet.

424084 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to stewart, 3, #302 of 1640 🔗

yes, we are extremely dangerous to them – which is why we will not be tolerated for long

424139 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to stewart, 4, #303 of 1640 🔗

That’s why we aren’t allowed to meet each other.

425337 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Two-Six, #304 of 1640 🔗

That’s why we ignore them and meet each other. 🙂

423935 Katabasis, replying to Katabasis, 32, #305 of 1640 🔗

If “vaccine passports” truly do become the new normal for even simple day-to-day activities such as going to the pub or shop then we will have collectively given up bodily autonomy. I think a lot of people even on the sceptic side don’t quite grasp just how profoundly horrifying and authoritarian this is.

423937 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Katabasis, 4, #306 of 1640 🔗

I do.

424072 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to TJN, 4, #307 of 1640 🔗

me too. we will have ceased to be autonomous individuals and become livestock, to be processed as our masters see fit

423938 ▶▶ stewart, replying to Katabasis, 9, #308 of 1640 🔗

Absolutely. It is a watershed moment in the history of humanity.

423954 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Katabasis, 12, #309 of 1640 🔗

They won’t be brought in. That was government fake news put out to distract our attention

423959 ▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Katabasis, 5, #310 of 1640 🔗

I do. Im already serking out countries i can move too wherr its no mandatory. I cannot continue in the UK if this happens.

424076 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 2, #311 of 1640 🔗

go now – the window of opportunity for escape is closing, and at some point will just slam shut. go to the third world, probably Africa, you will buy some time, and there is a glimmer of a possibility that you may even live to come through this at the other end

423967 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Katabasis, 10, #312 of 1640 🔗

I’m looking forward to drinking and eating in the vaccine free establishments – and i suggest a new ”not vaccinated” passport to keep out the newly formed species of ‘vaccinated’

424012 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Katabasis, 4, #313 of 1640 🔗

Imagine needing to show ID just to by a loaf of bread.

424024 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Katabasis, 7, #314 of 1640 🔗

It’s the Mark of the beast.

424026 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Katabasis, 2, #315 of 1640 🔗
424028 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Katabasis, 3, #316 of 1640 🔗

Make local connections with local shops and this will not be an issue

423940 nottingham69, replying to nottingham69, 7, #317 of 1640 🔗

Great content today. The point about infection control in the NHS is a very important issue and one both the NHS and media want to keep very quiet. Results vary a lot between Trusts as well but these Public bodies absolutely hate any league table style scrutiny. The education unions will be desperate to never go back to that type of scrutiny, you can be sure.

423950 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to nottingham69, 7, #318 of 1640 🔗

Long before this crisis, I had great concerns about healthcare staff wearing uniforms to and from work.

if healthcare care employers (hospitals, care homes etc) cannot be bothered to get this very basic infection control sorted out, how can they be trusted with more complex protocols.

423965 ▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Lindy, 3, #319 of 1640 🔗

Carers go from home to home, flat to flat constantly during their working day. The ones I’ve seen in my neighbourhood gave up on PPE long ago and have no time between visits to change their uniform.
A sense of proportion is needed here I think.

423963 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to nottingham69, 3, #320 of 1640 🔗

Might seem a minor point, but it’s passing on an additional cost to people on generally low incomes.

423974 ▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to PoshPanic, 3, #321 of 1640 🔗

Singapore got its Nosocomial infection rate down to statistical zero in March last year by treating Covid as a contact transferred infection and having a rabid attention to hygeine.
The same attitude in the NHS would work wonders and save all staff the cost of laundering their work clothes.
After all I bet surgical.staf don’t wear their scrubs home, so it can’t be that difficult.
It would be good to see the NHS at least try to catch up with the excellence.of 1st world healthcare systems such as Switzerland or Singapore instead of permanently languishing as a 2nd world system.

424177 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Nessimmersion, 2, #322 of 1640 🔗

Infection control in the NHS hospitals has long been an issue, long before all of this madness. Having spent time in a hospital in the last couple of years, the “cleaning” methods of some and the general cleanliness is frankly disgusting. Some wards are very good, some awful in the same hospital.

This has nothing to do with money or outsourcing cleaning but the sheer laziness of those doing the job and those managing the cleaning.

Some NHS staff think it is beneath them to actually clean up after any kind of problem with those on a ward.

I am surprised the figure is only 40% of infections of the “deadly” virus are nosocomial

424120 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to PoshPanic, #323 of 1640 🔗

Not if the NHS/ care companies assume the responsibility of giving staff sufficient uniforms and a laundry service

423943 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 2, #324 of 1640 🔗

This paper suggests there is evidence for reverse transcription, ie that mRNA ‘vaccines’ can cause changes to DNA.


This is a long and quite technical paper and is somewhat beyond me. Perhaps others can take a look and give a view?

423952 ▶▶ Lucan Grey, replying to Basileus, 5, #325 of 1640 🔗

Sunlight causes changes to your DNA.

So does eating, drinking and importantly breathing oxygen.

As well as all types of infections, and every time your body creates a new cell to replace or repair an old one.

You have an automatic repair system that goes around correcting those changes to the DNA. That’s why you don’t die of cancer every week.

There is a copy of your DNA in pretty much ever cell in your body. There are plenty of good copies to compare faults against.

Let the fantasies from Hollywood films stay in Hollywood films. There are enough hysterics obsessed with masks. We don’t need any more.

424027 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Lucan Grey, #326 of 1640 🔗

Indeed, unless it is synthetic RNA ….

The messenger RNA (mRNA) used in many COVID-19 vaccines are not natural. They’re synthetic. Since naturally produced mRNA rapidly degrades, it must be complexed with lipids or polymers to prevent this from happening. COVID-19 vaccines use PEGylated lipid nanoparticles, and PEG is known to cause anaphylaxis.2 Lipid nanoparticles may also cause other problems.


The idea behind mRNA vaccines is that by tricking your body into creating the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, your immune system will produce antibodies in response.

But what happens when you turn your body into a viral protein factory, thus keeping antibody production activated on a continual basis with no ability to shut down ?


424020 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Basileus, 2, #327 of 1640 🔗

The idea behind mRNA vaccines is that by tricking your body into creating the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, your immune system will produce antibodies in response. But what happens when you turn your body into a viral protein factory, thus keeping antibody production activated on a continual basis with no ability to shut down?

“Normally, messenger RNA is not free in your body because it’s a danger signal. As a molecular biologist, the central dogma of molecular biology is that our genetic code, DNA, is transcribed, written, into the messenger RNA. That messenger RNA is translated into protein, or used in a regulatory capacity … to regulate gene expression in cells.

So, taking a synthetic messenger RNA and making it thermostable — making it not break down — [is problematic]. We have lots of enzymes (RNAses and DNAses) that degrade free RNA and DNA because, again, those are danger signals to your immune system. They literally drive inflammatory diseases.


423944 Lucan Grey, replying to Lucan Grey, 3, #328 of 1640 🔗

Summit News points out that no-lockdown Sweden is seeing Covid deaths plummet quicker than lockdown UK. “

Why has nobody done a rate of change graph comparing the rate of change of the two countries?

424022 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Lucan Grey, 2, #329 of 1640 🔗

ATL today.

423945 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 10, #330 of 1640 🔗

I can’t help thinking that people who wear masks for hours on end are risking making an infection worse once they are actually infected.

There’s too much focus on preventing infection when we know for most people getting infected is not an issue. What if the measures put in to prevent infection make everything worse for those who do get infected? Somebody needs to look into this pronto.


Nearly 20 major healthcare bodies are appealing to the PM for better personal protection against coronavirus.

They say at least 930 health and care workers have died of Covid-19 and more are experiencing long-term effects.

423956 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Nobody2021, 12, #331 of 1640 🔗

When masks came in last summer, I remember seeing a waitress carry a plate of food across the restaurant. She touched her mask several times before using that hand to pass the plate. Unless they’re being evil, most waiting staff wouldn’t lick their hands before passing a plate, but touching a saturated mask is the same thing.

423960 ▶▶▶ Nobody2021, replying to PoshPanic, 12, #332 of 1640 🔗

It’s not just that it’s the breathing back in of what your body is trying to get rid of. If you’re infected your body will try to reduce the infection in any way it can. Breathing out is the most basic way to do this. If an infection gets bad enough you will start coughing to try and expel more of it.

Wearing a mask can only slow down your bodies attempt to get rid of an infection and perhaps make it worse when you breathe all that infected breath back in.

423971 ▶▶▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Nobody2021, 6, #333 of 1640 🔗

Yep, breathing the crap you’ve just expelled, can’t be good in the long run.

425327 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to PoshPanic, #334 of 1640 🔗

Nor in the sprints, PP. 🙂

423969 ▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to PoshPanic, 11, #335 of 1640 🔗

Everyone does it, tbh it’s very difficult not to.

Then they go around touching everything that everyone else touches door handles, car park machines, ATMs, etc etc. How people think that this is acceptable is beyond me

The mandate wearing of masks is for political reasons only, medically and scientifically it’s not just wrong, it’s dangerous.

423983 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to PoshPanic, 3, #336 of 1640 🔗

or those people in the supermarket diligently wearing masks which they adjust (i.e fiddle with) as they enter and then immediately they are then handling fruit and veg and prodding mangos

423986 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to PoshPanic, 7, #337 of 1640 🔗

I’ve seen that several times when I’ve bought coffee or takeaway food. Those who are exempt don’t touch their faces and continue to observe basic hygeine protocols but those who are muzzled constantly fiddle with their masks to the point where I would rather their exempt colleague did my order.

423951 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 17, #338 of 1640 🔗

Call me Mr Picky but people in care homes are being jabbed and then catching and dying of covid

We are asked to believe this is a coincidence

“That’s one big mother fucking coincidence” as Samuel L Jackson might say

Don’t think I’ll waste my time today writing to my MP about this

Instead I’m going for a walk and upon my return to Che
Cecil will attempt to follow James Martin instructions on how to make Yorkshire puddings

Wish me luck

423955 ▶▶ stewart, replying to Cecil B, 2, #339 of 1640 🔗

It’s a coincidence if they die from the vaccine.
But not if they die from covid.

423957 ▶▶ l835, replying to Cecil B, #340 of 1640 🔗

I wish Samuel L Jackson was my mother fucking AM!

423968 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Cecil B, #341 of 1640 🔗

Think you have to make sure your cooking oil is very hot

423981 ▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to stefarm, #342 of 1640 🔗

And sieve the flour from a good height. It increases the air volume in the mix, and makes the puddings rise fabulously.

423973 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Cecil B, 6, #343 of 1640 🔗

I’m wondering if Prince Philips hospital stay is related to him getting the vaccine?

423979 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Ganjan21, 2, #344 of 1640 🔗

I’m starting to think that’s the case. My FIL who is 80 had the vaccine and he’s been experiencing some side effects. He’s reported it to the doctor who has been monitoring his situation.

424000 ▶▶▶ Seansaighdeoir, replying to Ganjan21, 5, #345 of 1640 🔗

Personally I would be very surprised if any of the RF have had the vaccine – just a publicity push but if so that would be very interesting if he has. Must admit it was my first thought on hearing he had been admitted.

424344 ▶▶▶ Suet, replying to Ganjan21, 1, #346 of 1640 🔗

Oh, but the BBC was MOST careful to say that his hospital stay relates to a ‘pre-existing’ condition ….

423964 Seansaighdeoir, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 12, #347 of 1640 🔗

Another brilliant article by Rosemary Frei over at Off-G exposing the connections between govt and the medical / pharma mafiosi. A must read.


423982 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 10, #348 of 1640 🔗

It’s about time anyone, including politicians, interviewed by the media has to show their funding sources and affiliations ( not just Covid interviews, for everything).

THe good old repeating ticker tape banners that Sky and BBC use incessantly should work a treat.

Then we add the fee they are getting.

A bit of transparency should expose the so called “independent experts”, such Devi Sridhar, for what they really are.

423992 ▶▶▶ Seansaighdeoir, replying to Lindy, 6, #349 of 1640 🔗

Quite. I think thats what the (really) mean when they say ‘we are all in this together’. By together they mean GAVI, CEPI, SAGE, NERVTAG, BMGF and the WEF.

Rosemary illustrates that they ARE all in it together.

423999 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Lindy, 4, #350 of 1640 🔗

Absolutely. Even a Snooker player can’t walk into a match without displaying any of their sponsorship details.

423970 Prof Feargoeson, 13, #351 of 1640 🔗

“Eat Nowt to Help Out”.

“Low BMI Means You Won’t Die!”

“A Minute on the Lips A Week on the Drips”.

423975 Julian, replying to Julian, 18, #352 of 1640 🔗

We should remember that even if the headlines say schools are going to “reopen” post the 22 Feb review, they will not be properly open. As long as masks, mass testing, forced absence, distancing are in place they are not “open”. The same goes for any curtailment of what used to be normal school activities – school clubs, school trips, sports, social events.

The same goes for Universities. MSM reporting of Unis has been largely restricted to stuff around Uni halls and rarely mentions the virtual closure of campuses and close to 100% restriction of Uni life to being online or simply cancelled indefinitely.

I’ve been told by a senior leadership team member at a large Uni that they need to follow government guidance but cannot open in the same way schools have been because of the sheer numbers involved and the impossibility of forming class or year group bubbles. In practice this means that Uni life as it used to be is finished, probably forever. There has not been enough focus on this issue, including ATL here

424001 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Julian, 5, #353 of 1640 🔗



Parents not to allow their kids to be tested

424054 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Julian, 6, #354 of 1640 🔗

the schools are only re-opening to make the children available as fodder for the fraudulent testing, and no doubt ultimately, the lethal injections. the regime and its apparatchiks don’t give a flying fuck about children’s education or welfare.

424134 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #355 of 1640 🔗

Indeed they do not

They do care about headlines and public opinion, so reopening schools gives them a big tick in the box – one of the unfortunate consequences of focus on school closures

423976 isobar, replying to isobar, 16, #356 of 1640 🔗

‘Revealed: The human face of Britain’s cancer ‘disaster’ threatening 100,000 patients who could miss out on treatment due to Covid pandemic’


Notable that although the headline blames the ‘covid pandemic’ one of the sub-headlines (see below) blames ‘covid lockdowns’

Latifah King, 27, and Kelly Smith, 31, both died of cancer after treatment delays due to Covid lockdowns which meant missed chemotherapy and late diagnosis

Take a look at the best rated comment. Excoriates Wancock and the Government and has almost 4000 upticks! Builds on feeling that public opinion has shifted of late.

‘So sad RIP Latifah and Kelly. It’s not fair how you were both treated. Hancock needs to resign , he has neglected millions of people, only COVID has mattered for over a year and unfortunately there will be tens of stories like this of these poor young women. I was referred during lockdown one one a two week rule bowel cancer referral , I’m 31 years old , I waited 6 months to be seen. Thankfully I’m ok but others won’t be. The destruction this government has caused is unforgivable. People dying too soon and alone, people birthing alone, people not being allowed to go to funerals. Makes me sick it really does.’

3829 upticks 135 downticks

423988 ▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to isobar, 10, #357 of 1640 🔗

My fathers cousin was one of these. She was given a “choice” of forming a “bubble” with one other family unit to follow the rules to recieve treatment. She had 3 children and 5 grandchildren. She chose to spend what turned out to be her final few months with everyone than live her dying days alone and miserable.

424015 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 1, #358 of 1640 🔗

So sorry to hear of your sad loss – good call on her part.

423989 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to isobar, 5, #359 of 1640 🔗

No need for wancock to resign – just separate her head from the body. It might be more helpful.

423977 Bart Simpson, replying to Bart Simpson, 15, #360 of 1640 🔗

Great update today and shows how the clowns in our government really have no intention of letting this go and are now using children and schools as an excuse.

How many more excuses should be tolerated before the zombies realise that by complying they’re complicit in the devastation of this country and society?

These people should realise that they will go down in history as collaborators on par with those in France in WW2 and East German Stasi informers.

Is that what they really want?

424050 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Bart Simpson, 15, #361 of 1640 🔗

I dont think they ever will realise. The mumsnet brigade are quite happy for their children’s lives to be made intolerable for a disease that is irrelevant for them. I makes you realise how diabolical many parents are….but then i knew that when I was a teacher.

The way children are increasingly being made to carry the can for this is one of the most despicable aspects of it. So glad I grew up in the 1960s when we played out everyday and had real lives.

424544 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Boris Bullshit, 2, #362 of 1640 🔗

Agree. When I was teaching that’s when I started to lose respect for parents, it was clear to me that they never bothered to raise their kids properly and were passing on the responsibility to us teachers.

My respect for them plummeted even lower in my current job. Made me wonder why did they bother to have kids if they saw them as an inconvenience & couldn’t be bothered to raise them properly?

That said I do feel sorry for kids today. I have two nieces, aged 3 and 5 and I shudder to think what will become of them.

423978 primesinister, replying to primesinister, 14, #363 of 1640 🔗

Im not sceptical about lockdowns [for some ] im totally against them, there is plenty of evidence that they are highly destructive and people have died as a direct result of them.
It is clear from the increase in flawed testing that ball head will not have his under 1000 cases so where does that leave us, It is very dark what is happening, i have this image in my mind of the majority of the public like masked lemmings leaping off a cliff personally I dont think they can be stopped how do those left behind avoid the slip stream and not get sucked in behind them and over the cliff.

424044 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to primesinister, 12, #364 of 1640 🔗

Hugo Talks often speaks of a need for a parallel universe for those of us who for those of us who do not want to live like this…a kind of Amish separatism. I really do not want to be around these people at all and find myself increasingly withdrawing from mainstream society.

424073 ▶▶▶ Harry Chara, replying to Boris Bullshit, 9, #365 of 1640 🔗

I agree wholeheartedly . If I could live on another fucking Planet I would be off

424075 ▶▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Boris Bullshit, 8, #366 of 1640 🔗

This is something often on my mind too.

Even if we pull back from the brink this time, what about next time? The willingness of so many people including our own friends and family to give everything up like this means it can and will happen again in the future.

425079 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Katabasis, #367 of 1640 🔗

Yes thats the unedifying truth…..we now know beyond doubt that even our friends and family cannot be relied on in a crisis…it makes you fear the future.

425322 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Boris Bullshit, #368 of 1640 🔗

Makes me look for new friends. Fear’s always failure, BB.

424546 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Boris Bullshit, #369 of 1640 🔗

At the moment, following the example of the Early Church fathers and the founders of monasticism is becoming attractive.

423980 ThomasT, replying to ThomasT, 46, #370 of 1640 🔗

I have been feeling quite fed-up this last few weeks and realised it was probably because I hadn’t left the house in ages. So yesterday being lovely & sunny, I decided to go for a nice walk around the village where I live. I bumped into a neighbour a few doors away, he s in his mid 80 s. I have seen him driving about on his own in his car fully masked up so I knew he had been brainwashed. I asked him how he was doing and he mentioned he had his jab back in Jan. Apparently he had to go to hospital for a chest scan as he wasn’t feeling very well and they said “well whilst your here we may as well jab you”. Guess they were trying to finish him off whilst he was ill.

Bit further on, I bumped into one of the school mums and her 4 year old son out for a walk. First thing she does is grab her son and remind him to keep 2m away from me. They were going to see grandparents and wave at them through their living room window.

Further on still I bump into a retired bloke I know whose in his mid 60 s. Turns out he s a quite sceptical, telling me he s been doing his research and the excess death doesn't add up compared to what's being reported and when comparing it to other years. He says quite a few sceptical comments about lockdowns, how badly the govt is handling things. Even says how his brother in law died a couple of months back, and despite him being exceptionally ill and on deaths door for years, covid was put down as cause of death much to the family's disagreement. It was nice hearing someone else who was sceptical about things. Then he comes out and tells me him and his wife s just had the AZ jab last week. He says he knows quite a few people who have had the jabs and had no side effects.

So I went from feeling like I had found another sceptic to being disappointed again.

Then nearly home, I see a woman talking to her elderly mother, through the glass porch on their house using their mobile phones. Just like you see in prison when the visitor talks to the inmate via a phone and the inmate is securely locked up behind the glass screen. That kind of summed things up for me and I walked back in my house feeling nearly as fed-up as when I left.

423994 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to ThomasT, 7, #371 of 1640 🔗

Sad to hear that, at various times it has been reported that villagers tended to have a firmer grasp on reality and so were less fussed about the details of social distancing.
Perhaps the behaviour you describe is because village dwellers know who everybody else is and are therefore more vulnerable to being dobbed in.

424091 ▶▶▶ ThomasT, replying to karenovirus, 4, #372 of 1640 🔗

Sad to hear that, at various times it has been reported that villagers tended to have a firmer grasp on reality and so were less fussed about the details of social distancing.
Perhaps the behaviour you describe is because village dwellers know who everybody else is and are therefore more vulnerable to being dobbed in.”

I think my village like a lot is more like a small town now. With so many new houses being built over the years and lots of new people moving in, long gone are the days when everyone knew each other.

424010 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to ThomasT, 27, #373 of 1640 🔗

It’s tricky mate but keep going out for a walk, fresh air and nature.

At the weekend me and the OH had a swerver who dived into a snow drift to avoid us and then berated us as she walked off.

This week we bumped into an elderly gentleman who looked fit as a butcher’s dog, the 3 of us stood inches apart celebrating the weather, listening to his story of how he was out walking enjoying the sun, we stood together watching the birds (robins, bull finches, black birds), 3 of us smiled and wished each other a good day. Wonderful.

Keep strong and keep going.

424039 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to stefarm, 10, #374 of 1640 🔗

Any swervers who berate people deserve pelting with snow…that what she would have got from me lol.

424094 ▶▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to Boris Bullshit, 1, #375 of 1640 🔗

I did, a green snowball winged her

424065 ▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to stefarm, 15, #376 of 1640 🔗

The other day just as I was approaching my driveway on foot somebody happened to be coming the other way. He swerved down my driveway to avoid me. I think he nearly had a heart attack as I followed him up my own driveway.

424095 ▶▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to Andrew K, 1, #377 of 1640 🔗

☺️ I done that once in trying to avoid a traffic jam, followed a car on the basis they he clearly knew a shortcut out of the jam, 5 minutes later he pulled up on his drive with me sitting outside his house about 2 miles out of my way.

424125 ▶▶▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to stefarm, 4, #378 of 1640 🔗

Many many years ago, 1992 to be exact, Tottenham were playing Sheffield Wednesday in Sheffield, so long before sat Nav. Anyway the motoway junction we were suppose to exist was closed due to an accident. We then got hopelessly lost looking for the ground. Drove around Sheffield, on a Sunday with no people around to ask and no idea where the ground was. We then spotted a guy in his car with a Sheffield top on. We followed him for about 15 minutes as closely as we could, only for him to dive home.

424200 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to Andrew K, 7, #379 of 1640 🔗

Ha, I forgot to mention that I was a bus driver at the time, the passengers were not happy!!!

425082 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Andrew K, #380 of 1640 🔗

Ha ha thats great to hear!!

424017 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to ThomasT, 10, #381 of 1640 🔗

That really is a grim account of our Country. We are going on 12 months in!!!

424036 ▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to ThomasT, 18, #382 of 1640 🔗

I think the thing is when you go out you have to try and plan an outing that avoids people. I know that sounds terribly anti social but thats the world we have been made to live in. Any visits to town centres are depressing seeing the ghost town environment and the hordes of muzzled musketeers everywhere. I find it better to go for walks that involve being around nature and animals….they have not changed and are oblivious to the ghastly world humans are busy creating.

424082 ▶▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Boris Bullshit, 9, #383 of 1640 🔗

Aint that the truth. My precious little rescue cat has been a real help through all of this.

425086 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Katabasis, 1, #384 of 1640 🔗

Aw he or she sounds lovely…would love to see a picture of them.

424164 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to ThomasT, 12, #385 of 1640 🔗

Yes ThomasT – I walked in my village yesterday and was delighted to see a Master Thatcher at work on a cottage roof. So I sat in the churchyard with my thermos for about an hour simply marvelling at how he was so deftly weaving straw and willow into a ridge design. I was passed by several swervers and young families ( with masked 6 yr olds I kid you not) who had not even noticed what was going on – they were too busy looking at the floor and huddling together to make sure I HAD ENOUGH SPACE (so said one mum) . I have this morning picked up my 5yr old granddaughter and been sat on the same seat for 20 mins chatting about what “that man up there” is doing. She has learned something and we had a nice face muzzle free time ( and admittedly shared a sticky bun ☺️ ) Still saw the swervers…. but as she said”we don’t care , do we Nanny”
And no we don’t- their problem, not ours.
We can still influence the young ones as long as we don’t lose touch with them.
I have not abandoned her to the state so far and NEVER WILL

424455 ▶▶ Felice, replying to ThomasT, 2, #386 of 1640 🔗

Same problem for me.
Usually, I go out around 4.30 or so, when there are fewer people around. Or early before the bedwetters are up. Made a mistake yesterday though. I went out in the afternoon around 2.30 and within 5 mins I’d been passed by 3 swervers along an otherwise very quiet 2m wide pavement. It really raised my blood pressure.

424528 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to ThomasT, 4, #387 of 1640 🔗

Apparently he had to go to hospital for a chest scan as he wasn’t feeling very well and they said “well whilst your here we may as well jab you”.

Giving someone a vaccine while they are ill, especially with a chest condition, is insane. What the fuck were the doctors thinking?

Guess they were trying to finish him off whilst he was ill.

I think that’s exactly it.

423985 karenovirus, replying to karenovirus, 8, #388 of 1640 🔗

BBC R4 News this morning has been concentrating on western countries ‘hoarding’ vaccines at the expense of 150 less developed states that have been unable to start vaccinating at all.

As predicted here on LS some weeks ago we must now prepare to continue lockdown measures for the foreseeable future because, as one Expert put it:
‘If Virus remains rife in the rest of the world and continues to mutate (insert hyperbole here) our own vaccination programmes will have been pointless’.

424083 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to karenovirus, 7, #389 of 1640 🔗

The “hoarding” of these “vaccines” is saving those in less developed states from the long term side effects of these experimental therapies.

424167 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to karenovirus, 4, #390 of 1640 🔗

Completely as per instructions from Uncle Bill

424002 Cecil B, 23, #391 of 1640 🔗

We have a guest and they have turned the TV on

The BBC feature is about Vaxxi drivers who have volunteered to transport the old to their deaths at the vaccination centres

At first I thought it was a Monty Python a sketch

I’ve added everyone involved to the list

424003 JHUNTZ, replying to JHUNTZ, 13, #392 of 1640 🔗

Logistically do they honestly intend to vaccinate all the population every year. What was once the National Health Service became the National Covid Service and will be the National Vaccination Service.

This is just not possible vaccination is so far down the list of priorities in the health service despite what the media are telling us.

Good to see the mail reporting on the cancer crisis https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9276335/In-heartbreaking-pictures-human-face-cancer-epidemic-threatening-100-000-patients.html

424037 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to JHUNTZ, 1, #393 of 1640 🔗

“Logistically do they honestly intend to vaccinate all the population every year. What was once the National Health Service became the National Covid Service and will be the National Vaccination Service.” – this is THE FUTURE!

424069 ▶▶ ThomasT, replying to JHUNTZ, 6, #394 of 1640 🔗

With 67 million people in the UK and Doctors apparently being paid a £12 per covid jab “sales commission” I can see there being quite an incentive for local surgeries to go out of their way to jab people. My local surgery already goes crazy each year with marketing for the flu jab!

424007 J4mes, 18, #395 of 1640 🔗

Regarding ‘woke gobbledegook’ – yesterday I saw articles bemoaning Wilfried Zaha’s decision to stop ‘taking the knee’ at the start of every football match. He say’s “I feel like taking a knee is degrading,” which led me to think, finally, black people are coming out and objecting to being used as a political pawn…


So the whole taking the knee crap has run its course and no one gives a shit about it anymore. How do they get out of doing it without conceding it failed? Yes of course, blame whitey.

‘The whole kneeling down – why must I kneel down for you to show that we matter?’ Says millionaire Zaha. See how the left and their globalist masters love to switch things so they’re always the victim? No one asked black people to take the knee, but it is beyond question they demanded their fellow white players buckle and for us all to observe this deliberately divisive ritual.

424008 Tom Blackburn, 1, #396 of 1640 🔗

The Independent: Coronavirus news – live: Current lockdown may not be last, government admits as Wales to unveil roadmap.

424009 Bella Donna, replying to Bella Donna, 19, #397 of 1640 🔗

Johnson Hancock and SAGE have to go! They are a ball and chain around our necks and we are being slowly suffocated.

424014 ▶▶ J4mes, replying to Bella Donna, 2, #398 of 1640 🔗

Quite the understatement there Bella!

424038 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Bella Donna, 3, #399 of 1640 🔗

They need to be helped to go! We all need to help them go – the sooner the better!

424043 ▶▶▶ J4mes, replying to TheClone, 8, #400 of 1640 🔗

In a healthy democracy, a full-blown criminal investigation would already be underway. It would be the instigators of this enormous crime that would be living in full lockdown – behind bars while they wait their trial.

424019 James Leary #KBF, 18, #401 of 1640 🔗

Ferguson and some of the other Camp Guards appear to think that if they come out of the back end of the disaster with wreathes of smiles, and throwing sweeties to the gaunt and ashen inmates, they will be forgiven all their previous inhuman conduct. I’ve got news for them.

424031 James Leary #KBF, replying to James Leary #KBF, 1, #402 of 1640 🔗

Fraser Nelson & ‘The Revenge of the Remoaners’ in SAGE?

“ What worried the European Union about Britain’s vaccine miracle was not just the VIP access to vaccines but what it all seemed to point to. An Easter resurrection for the British economy – and a major competitive advantage against the rest of Europe who may be still in and out of lockdowns, wrestling the virus. It now seems that the link between vaccination and reopening may be nowhere near as close as was feared in Brussels.”

424119 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to James Leary #KBF, 2, #403 of 1640 🔗

“Wrestling the virus.” brilliant. where’s Hulk Hogan when you need him?!

424033 isobar, 5, #404 of 1640 🔗

More on the impact of the governments strategy on cancer cases.
‘Institutionalised scaremongering is fuelling this cancer nightmare, writes Professor ANGUS DALGLEISH’


Professor DALGLEISH calls for an end to lockdown.

424042 Bart Simpson, replying to Bart Simpson, 7, #405 of 1640 🔗

Whoever did this is a genius and this should be circulated more as a counterpoint against those Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy adverts:


424056 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #406 of 1640 🔗


424058 ▶▶ Melangell, replying to Bart Simpson, #407 of 1640 🔗

Does anyone know how this video can be copied?

424071 ▶▶▶ vargas99, replying to Melangell, #409 of 1640 🔗

just right click and copy the link then paste it wherever you want

424062 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #410 of 1640 🔗

Made my morning!

424081 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to isobar, #411 of 1640 🔗

Yep. They should also do printouts to replace those ones in the Underground and public spaces.

424090 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #412 of 1640 🔗

Absolutely brilliant, should be sent to every MP, every NHS manager, every SAGE and iSAGE patsy and every snivelling MSM cheerleading journalist.

please don’t forget Piers Mogan

424539 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #413 of 1640 🔗

Scary how evil (inhuman?) Whitty looks in that video.

424045 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 38, #414 of 1640 🔗

Just happened to be round my old mums house when the chiropodist arrived, young lady around 30 years of age..starts talking to old girl” I have had such a weight taken off my shoulders I can’t tell you how happy I am I’ve just had my covid jab so I can’t catch the disease”Old girl gave me a dirty look don’t say a word look.. next thing she asks old mum “How do you feel after your jab”mum says “I refused I don’t think the jab is safe”, to which chiropodist replys ” Oh your one of those are You”. That was it I fucking exploded the fucker was kicked out of the house so fast bag and equipment not far behind, she literally shit herself.. pathetic human being..

424047 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 21, #415 of 1640 🔗

Despicable. As many others have observed we spent decades wondering how Nazi Germany could have happened. Now we know. This blind obedience to hysteria is just incredible.

424051 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Katabasis, 10, #416 of 1640 🔗

From a thirty something girl incredible..

424053 ▶▶ Mayo, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 12, #417 of 1640 🔗

Why didn’t you ask her to explain how the vaccine works.

It’s then they usually start to realise how ignorant they are.

FWIW, I think the vaccine(s) might be fairly effective but there is a risk of a big increase in autoimmune disease in the coming years.

424059 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Mayo, 14, #418 of 1640 🔗

Quite honestly I just wanted the fuck out of the house. she will regret her decision in the not too distant future no words needed..

424066 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Mayo, 11, #419 of 1640 🔗

So you support the taking of an experimental treatment for an illness that 99.7% recover from without, notwithstanding that there is an elevated risk of developing an auto immune disease going forward by doing so.

424064 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 14, #420 of 1640 🔗

Such a country, full of ignorant fools! Good on you Bruce. And your Mum.

424079 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 5, #421 of 1640 🔗

Would have paid good money to have seen that. Well done you.

424148 ▶▶ Hattie, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 9, #422 of 1640 🔗

Oh, and you are one of those that believes this ‘vaccine’ is a vaccine and confers immunity.

424048 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 30, #423 of 1640 🔗

The demands for a “vaccine passport” are getting more strident. Those making the demands assume that the introduction of such passports would be a public health measure. Because it is assumed, how this would work is not even explained, let alone demonstrated by evidence. There is a good (rhetorical) reason for this assumption: the position is nonsensical. A vaccine confers immunity on the vaccinated individual. It does this regardless of whether or not anyone else is vaccinated. Vaccinated individuals have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated. A vaccinated person can mix with obviously infected and infectious people without fear of developing the disease.

The introduction of a vaccine passport policy has a number of negative consequences. First, it is obviously unethical, as it clearly violates the requirement for voluntary informed consent. Second, it clearly institutionalises discrimination. People without proof of vaccination are treated less favourably and have their fundamental human rights and liberties violated. They are transformed into second class citizens; indeed, even effective denied their citizenship. Third, the policy creates a perfect opportunity for fraud. Israel has introduced a vaccine passport (effective Sunday). Already, there is a massive market in forged passports, making many otherwise law-abiding citizens into criminals, and incentivising the state to adopt draconian responses, and encouraging people to suspicious of each other, undermining social cohesion.

Vaccine passports are a terrible idea. I cannot but wonder why anyone would think they are a good idea?

424052 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Steve Hayes, 16, #424 of 1640 🔗

As a friend of mine put it, as soon as “public health” is invoked, you and your health as an individual become public property.

424068 ▶▶ davews, replying to Steve Hayes, 11, #425 of 1640 🔗

Although now one of the ones who as succumbed to the jungle juice (sorry) I very strongly oppose vaccine passports for the very same reasons as Steve mentions. Covid has never been the sort of disease which justifies this and once this current peak has gone and next winter’s being falsely attributed to it hopefully the whole thing will be forgotten just like all the other things our bodies have encountered over time immortal.

425303 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to davews, #426 of 1640 🔗

Well, if you’re allowed to travel and I’m not, dave, I’ll have a couple of business propositions for you.

424116 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Steve Hayes, 5, #427 of 1640 🔗

Also the not insignificant problem, that there is no such thing as an impenetrable database. India’s entire biometric database (north of 1 billion records) was hacked & the entire contents spread around Whatsapp for literally a few pounds. Criminals certainly won’t have their own digital health ID, they’ll just take someone else’s!

424121 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Steve Hayes, 9, #428 of 1640 🔗

The problem is the vaccine does not confer immunity, only milder symptoms.

I would argue the drug companies should go back to the drawing board then. Braindead authoritarian zealots argue for vaccinating the whole population. This despite the fact that we don’t have enough evidence of it stopping transmission. In all honesty what the fuck use is it?

The whole premise is on a bed of lies. I have no idea how they have managed to maintain the narrative this long and people have still not smelt the bullshit.

424219 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to JHUNTZ, 3, #429 of 1640 🔗

The so called vaccines are not vaccines. The causative agent, the virus, has not been isolated, which is the first step in the development of a vaccine.

424142 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Steve Hayes, 13, #430 of 1640 🔗

May be a generalisation of the type of people but I do think those very accepting of the passport idea are the people who cannot live without their smart phone. Their entire life is via their phone, all communication and actions. They never question downloading an app, it is just what they do. So from that their question isn’t “why would we take a “vaccine” we don’t need” it is in fact ” I will just download an app after having a jab”, the vaccine is almost incidental to the digital passport.

Those pushing for a passport in power, think they are appealing to the generation who are likely to vote for them in future elections (if we ever have them again) and that is for all parties, hence this does seem to be a cross party push.

424049 LMS2, replying to LMS2, 11, #431 of 1640 🔗

“‘Near-elimination’ of Covid needed before restrictions are significantly eased, says doctors’ union” – The chairman of the British Medical Association has said there is a “growing consensus” that the number of cases needs to reach the lows seen last summer – with less than 1,000 a day – before major steps can be taken to reopen society, reports the Telegraph
“The vaccines will end the pandemic – whether Dr. Fauci likes it or not” – Karol Markowicz in the New York Post on the weird elite movement to sustain social restrictions once the danger is passed
“We’re already seeing why hotel quarantine is our most bonkers Covid policy yet” – Annabel Fenwick Elliot writes in the Telegraph that no other country in the world has copied Australia’s quarantine strategy at this late stage of the pandemic, and with good reason. And we’re not even copying it in a way that could ever work – doubly pointless
“Who Are the Covid Investigators?” – The Wall Street Journal continues pressing the questions that the WHO investigation refuses to answer”

The above stories all illustrate my contention that the continuing lockdowns and restrictions are political, not scientific.
The BMA leadership has become very political in recent years. Ditto the WHO, where 1000 of its staff signed a letter last year, demanding that “racism” should be declared a bigger health risk than CV19.
Fauci’s advice changes constantly. He’s not seen a patient in 30 years. He’s an administrator, not a medic.

424078 ▶▶ Julian, replying to LMS2, 6, #432 of 1640 🔗

“growing consensus”  = More people should think like me, and I will try to bully them into doing this using peer pressure rather than facts or logic

424106 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to LMS2, 7, #433 of 1640 🔗

The trust in doctors going lower and lower

424060 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 8, #434 of 1640 🔗

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one – Ireland’s Deputy CMO Ronan McGlynn (quotes taken from RTE – https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0218/1198020-key-points-from-covid-briefing/ ):

However, he said there is no robust evidence at the moment that Vitamin D has an effect on preventing people becoming seriously ill with Covid-19.

“We have to be very careful about what we recommend to people to put into their bodies or the reasons that people put something into their bodies,” Dr Glynn said.

The first sentence is bullshit, the second – famous last words as the “vaccines” eventually cause ADE.

424107 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Ewan Duffy, 6, #435 of 1640 🔗

That is appalling. And of course the UK press put the number of BAME cases down to systemic racism and not the fact that dark skins are not adapted to northern climes where they will struggle to make enough Vitamin D from sunlight. The truth is not something you will find in the press routinely

424061 Redundant Pilot, replying to Redundant Pilot, 7, #436 of 1640 🔗

Not sure if anyone else has posted this link yet. It’s the government trying to introduce a digital ID card, they are asking for feedback…. follow this link and go to the survey. It’s literally three questions, to which you say NO and an area where you can comment…


424085 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Redundant Pilot, 3, #437 of 1640 🔗

Cheers for this, just after a cathartic entry in the comment section.

424103 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Redundant Pilot, 1, #438 of 1640 🔗

The survey is open until 12 pm on Thursday 11 March 2021 .


424110 ▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to Victoria, #439 of 1640 🔗

Thanks for the link.

424077 Melangell, replying to Melangell, 15, #440 of 1640 🔗

Excellent article from LeftLockdownSceptics today, ending with the prediction that by 2030:

“the UK population who have managed to survive will be a multiply-masked bunch of pasty-faced genetically modified pin cushions, socially distancing to outwit the constant stream of new variants, who own nothing but are happy…”


424162 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Melangell, 12, #441 of 1640 🔗

I do enjoy LLS
I agree with the “old” Left on many issues
The woke intersectionalists can all go choke on a tranny

424172 ▶▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Crystal Decanter, 3, #442 of 1640 🔗

Amen to that, CD.

424244 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Melangell, 5, #443 of 1640 🔗

Sorry, but should have come with a warning. The face of that FASCIST LITTLE GIMP Owen Jones should be covered up!

What a dirty, democidal scum bag!

424086 Melangell, replying to Melangell, 2, #444 of 1640 🔗

Can anyone help me find something that I believe was posted here yesterday, but can’t remember where….It was called “Covid in Context” and looked like a useful piece to print out and hand to erstwhile friends and neighbours who now cringe from my unmasked face in the street.

424089 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Melangell, 4, #445 of 1640 🔗

If you manage to get people to read anything longer than a couple of sentences or watch anything for more than 60 seconds – please let me know how you did it….

424097 ▶▶▶ Melangell, replying to Major Panic, 2, #446 of 1640 🔗

I understand, but I would also like to read what I recall was a succinct bullet list of evidential points with references so that I can be ready to verbally counter any flak.

424100 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Melangell, 5, #447 of 1640 🔗


424109 ▶▶▶ Melangell, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 1, #448 of 1640 🔗

Thank you SO much, SH! I just had an intersting experience searching for this using the title of the piece together with “Lockdown Sceptics,” first on Bing (which I can’t get rid of) and then on DuckDuckGo. Comparing the results on both search engines was eye-opening!

424127 ▶▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Melangell, 2, #449 of 1640 🔗

Depends on which browser you use, it nearly always is possible to change the default if you dig around the settings. DDG is my default now.

424132 ▶▶▶▶▶ Melangell, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 1, #450 of 1640 🔗

I’ve tried everything suggested by others online and I’ve done it in the past successfully, but the latest windows update has made it really tricky and involves going to regedit and scary things like that. I use DDG most of the time but was in a hurry today. I use Firefox.

424543 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ John Crichton, replying to Melangell, 1, #451 of 1640 🔗

Reject Windows – install Linux and be freeee!. Seriously, you can try it without having to nuke windows off your machine and if doesn’t work for you then you can just go back to Windows no problem. Have been Windows free for 11years now.

424578 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Melangell, replying to John Crichton, #452 of 1640 🔗

OK – I’ll give it a go – thanks for info. What do you use as your word processor software? I’m assuming Microsoft Word doesn’t connect with Linux? I need to be able to read and send Word docs for my work.

424157 ▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Melangell, 3, #453 of 1640 🔗

DDG is better but not perfect – there are serious questions surrounding their “privacy” and allegations that they are just a front for Google to avoid antitrust regulations (Google always cite DDG as a shield)
SearX is better as you can adjust the settings to scrape the searches from all engines securely


424180 ▶▶▶▶▶ Melangell, replying to Crystal Decanter, 2, #454 of 1640 🔗

I have always felt a bit funny about the DDG/Google connection, so will definitely check out SearX – thanks, Crystal!

424273 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Melangell, 2, #455 of 1640 🔗

DDG have been caught selling data to Gulag via 3rd parties

424576 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Melangell, replying to Crystal Decanter, #456 of 1640 🔗

Yikes – I’m off them, then!

424092 Mayo, replying to Mayo, 9, #457 of 1640 🔗

These videos are always worth viewing but Episode 9 (see link) featuring Zach Bush is probably the most thought provoking. Unlike Delores Cahill & others, Bush provides clear logic why the Covid vaccines cold be potentially harmful. Zach and James Lyons-Weiler are, far and away, the best communicators on Covid. (note video availability may be time limited)


The Robert Kennedy (bonus video) isn’t bad either.

424104 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Mayo, 3, #458 of 1640 🔗

I watched the Weiler one.

The fact they don’t even countenance an open debate on such issues, tells you how incredibly difficult this situation is for people. It’s a science heavy debate, but when the state and big business collude in censorship of this kind I think three things.

1. They regard me as an idiot.
2. They are extremely invested in vaccines, for reasons beyond saving lives.
3. We live in an elitist society and democracy is a facade

424112 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Mayo, 3, #459 of 1640 🔗

Just watched some of episode 9, will watch the remaining part later. Very good, thanks for flagging it up!

424169 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Mayo, 2, #460 of 1640 🔗

Thanks. Like Zach Bush, I’ll watch that later.

You might like Zach Bush thought provoking interview also about keeping us in balance with the virome

Zach Bush MD: Knowledge – Innate Immune System


424241 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Mayo, 2, #461 of 1640 🔗


424096 Fear is Finite, replying to Fear is Finite, 19, #462 of 1640 🔗

Imperial credits lockdown for drop in cases…

School children will be allowed to mark their own GCSEs and A levels in latest Government U-Turn. A spokesperson confirmed the move with a leak to the Telegraph this morning. “The children’s work is robust and unquestionably of high quality, as such their opinion on how they performed is without reproach.” Several fringe conspiracy theorists questioned the move, after many A* grades were self-awarded to students previously incapable of achieving anything higher than a D. “It would be discriminatory and probably racist in some way to use past performance as a benchmark, we’re all capable of smashing it out of the park on the day of the exam,” the spokesperson continued. The Telegraph interviewed several students at a virtual results day event. “I’m chuffed to pieces,” said Neil Funguson, a student hoping to attend the prestigious Imperial College in London. “I’ve messed up my exams lots of times in the past but this new grading system gave me the opportunity to cheat perform on a level playing field.” When asked if the grades would be externally moderated, he laughed maniacally, eyes swivelling. “We thought we couldn’t get away with not externally moderating the grades, but then Imperial did it, and we realised we could”.

424102 ▶▶ Melangell, replying to Fear is Finite, 4, #463 of 1640 🔗

Absolutely brilliant!!!!! 😀

424141 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Fear is Finite, 4, #464 of 1640 🔗

Careful, FF, we are quite likely to believe this sort if thing because it’s no dafter than what Bozo and his foul gang are doing all the time!

424165 ▶▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to Annie, #465 of 1640 🔗

Damn, sorry. Do you think they read this? Probs not. I’m not convinced they CAN read.

424098 BeBopRockSteady, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 4, #466 of 1640 🔗

“We can measure ‘sickness’ in a variety of ways – ICNARC use a ratio called PaO2 / FIO2 – which compares the blood oxygen level of a patient against the percentage of oxygen given to that patient by face mask or intubation. In a nutshell, the lower this number, the worse the lungs are at passing oxygen from the inhaled air into the blood stream.”

Masks able to cause this kind of blood oxygen issue?

424129 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 12, #467 of 1640 🔗

I’ve experimented with breath restriction techniques for a few years to improve my athletic performance. It’s a bit like high-altitude training without needing the high-altitude.

It works. During that time I’ve routinely measured my blood oxygenation using a pulse oxymeter. You can get a good one for just £20 or so from Amazon.

When the mask madness started, I carried out a few experiments to the shop and back wearing a tight fitting mask. It’s a good 20 minute walk there and back, with a significant slope to traverse. Bloody oxygenation level definitely dropped and I’m very fit – its likely even worse for unfit people who are dragging kids and shopping around with them.

424149 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Katabasis, 2, #468 of 1640 🔗

There were quite a few vids doing the rounds of firefighters measuring the C02 levels at the time
Would not comply with health & safety requirements

424209 ▶▶ mattghg, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #469 of 1640 🔗

Effects of surgical and FFP2/N95 face masks on cardiopulmonary exercise capacity, Clinical Research in Cardiology 109:1522–1530 (2020)


424099 Redundant Pilot, replying to Redundant Pilot, 26, #470 of 1640 🔗

This is what they want….

424181 ▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Redundant Pilot, 2, #471 of 1640 🔗

In two years it will become a badge of honour!! VAXX-FREE logo T-Shirts and Caps will be the only thing to wear in the summer to attract a mate.
“Hi, my name’s Matt, I took the Pfizer jab, how about you?”
“P*** off!!!”

424281 ▶▶ Felice, replying to Redundant Pilot, 2, #472 of 1640 🔗

I’m seriously thinking of making a Star of Covid badge – 5 or 8 sided yellow star – with mask exempt written above it – to wear to Morrisons, just to make a point.

424338 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Redundant Pilot, #473 of 1640 🔗

And a bar code tattooed on your wrist.

424666 ▶▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to Anti_socialist, #474 of 1640 🔗

attach one to your forehead

424111 Wolver, replying to Wolver, 10, #475 of 1640 🔗


Gov’s doc on their digital identity plans. It’s pretty long but worth a read. They are looking for feedback on the rules that should govern the digital identity. They want it to be a one-stop-shop for all your personal info and for it to be used as ID when buying age restricted products, to provide employment info to new employers, financial info to banks for mortgages or opening accounts and hold your education records too name a few. I expect they would also like it to hold your medical records too….

Sounds a lot like the start of social credit system to me, dressed up as something you control and have to opt into. We all know how easily these things become the norm and how long before its being used to deny service or treatment?

There’s a feedback form at the bottom of the page.

424218 ▶▶ Nymeria, replying to Wolver, 3, #476 of 1640 🔗

I filled it in and told them they can shove the digital ID where it belongs, along with the vaccine.

424567 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Nymeria, 2, #477 of 1640 🔗

I filled it in and told them they can shove the digital ID where it belongs, along with the vaccine.

Funnily enough… 😉

I also chipped in a few comments about Big Pharma, American Medical Insurance Companies, and Bill Gates.

424238 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Wolver, 1, #478 of 1640 🔗

It will link up to the Social Credit Cloud via injected nanotechnologies.

It’s over if people accept this, folks.

424113 davews, replying to davews, 10, #479 of 1640 🔗

It was suggested I posted back on my experiences with our local vaccine centre. Yes, I have succumbed, don’t criticise, my choice and I know what I probably let myself in for.

Arrived around 15 minutes early for my 9.30 appointment, the chaps guiding the traffic told me to wait in my car until my time. 10-15 cars in the pretty large car park. Queue of half a dozen at the entrance but having got through there and given all my details I only had to wait a couple of minutes before being called, hardly very busy and most of the 20 or so vaccination booths were not being used.

Astra Zenneca today, no choice. Asked all the questions on how well I felt, whether I had any covid symptoms or whether I had a positive test recently. And whether I was white British, do I look anything else… Painless prick done then told I had to wait in my car for 15 minutes before leaving. So overall including driving there and back (2 miles) it took the best part of an hour.

If our vaccine centre is typical (quite a large building and the only one doing our town) they are definitely running out of volunteers. Some of the others looked a LOT younger than me.

Given a copy of the drug package leaflet. Says it is not licenced for use on under 18 and if someone is pregnant they should discuss it with a doctor before having it.

I will report in due course on the side effects. Those listed as ‘very common’ and ‘common’ both shown to be 1 in 10 and don’t sound very nice.

424123 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to davews, 6, #480 of 1640 🔗

Thanks for relating your experience.

Did they tell you how to report any side affects?

424207 ▶▶▶ davews, replying to Freecumbria, 3, #481 of 1640 🔗

The vaccine leaflet (the one out of the package) gives you the web address for the yellow card scheme, though it wasn’t mentioned in all the questions she asked, in fact ‘side effects’ were not mentioned at all.

424556 ▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to davews, 1, #482 of 1640 🔗

Thanks. That tallies with my 90 year old neighbour, who had the Pfizer jab. He doesn’t have the internet so couldn’t have easily have reported any side affects himself. He had a sore arm after the jab (unreported). Has been feeling very tired in last week (3 weeks on from jab).

424131 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to davews, 4, #483 of 1640 🔗

No criticism at all here, fair play to you! Keep us posted how you’re doing. My 83 year old Granny got the Oxford one back early January and had no side effects at all.
Did they give you a card or anything like that to show you have had it?

424232 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Ganjan21, 6, #484 of 1640 🔗

For the last FUCKING TIME, we are talking about side effects six months from now. Cytokine Storm and such.

No, it is NOT FUCKING GOOD that someone has taken the vaccine. It is NOT FAIR PLAY.

EVERYONE who takes the vaccine is putting pressure on others here INCLUDING FUCKING CHILDREN!!!!!!!


I hope you are 77th Brigade.

424256 ▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #485 of 1640 🔗

It may protect from Sars-Cov2 (dubious) but just wait until you bump into HCov-Oc43
Oh boy

424397 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #486 of 1640 🔗

As Zach Bush explains here (recommend 25-40 minutes segment for quick view) we will likely see a human disaster of holocaust proportions over the next five years or so following the vaccination programme. He refers to the ADE/cytokine storm risk but also longer implications for auto-immune misfunctioning. Terrifying stuff.


(This link has been posted elsewhere but cannot be posted often enough to make people really sit up and think).

424603 ▶▶▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #487 of 1640 🔗

Excuse me, I am indeed not 77th. If he wants to have it then its his choice! I tried gently to tell my Granny not to have it, but she did, I cant force her not to! I am concerned about her and my in laws and anyone else I know who has taken any experimental vaccine and will be watching them closely over the coming months.
I have been here as a genuine poster since last summer and take offence to your comment.
I will NOT be taking the vaccine myself AT ALL by the way.

424137 ▶▶ Annie, replying to davews, 3, #488 of 1640 🔗

I don’t blame you in the least, and thanks for this clear and sober account.

424140 ▶▶ leggy, replying to davews, 8, #489 of 1640 🔗

Thanks for the feedback. Hope you’re OK, my Mum had the Oxford one a fortnight ago and was in bed for two days as a result. Though she was struck down with a virus this time last year and had four days in bed, so maybe it’s an improvement!

Point of order though – I don’t believe that these jabs are licensed at all. Having an emergency approval is not the same as being licensed. Happy to be corrected.

424412 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to leggy, 2, #490 of 1640 🔗

Pfizer trials:
Completion date 31 January 2023

Astra-Zeneca trials:
Completion date 21 February 2023

In both cases even the estimated “Primary” completion date has not yet been reached.

There are other vaccine trials going on, all of which are of similar status.

Everyone who has been ‘jabbed’ is participating in trials.

424573 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to leggy, #491 of 1640 🔗

No correction required.

424146 ▶▶ ThomasT, replying to davews, #492 of 1640 🔗

Good luck. Both my parents had the AZ jab a few weeks back (on different days) and in both cases they said it took about 10->12 minutes from them getting out of their car, getting into the place, having the jab and being back in their car. They said they were impressed with the “effectiveness” of the process, but I felt that surely that meant that they were not given time to listen to the details of the jab & understand them, so it was good your experience was longer.

424236 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to ThomasT, 2, #493 of 1640 🔗

Thanks 77th Brigade.

424201 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to davews, 7, #494 of 1640 🔗

Stay away from magnets and strong elecro-magnetic fields, as well as other people for at least the next two weeks, you now have zero immunity to anything.
Good Luck!

424481 ▶▶ Binra, replying to davews, #495 of 1640 🔗

You are the power to recognise and learn by your own choices to learn and appreciate the power of choice.

But how can you know the consequences of your succumbing?

When a ‘novel virus’ is announced the black box of an asserted unknown is filled with terrors.
When a novel ‘vaccine’ is pushed on the back of terrorism, the black box an unknown or undisclosed outcome is filled with hope of salvation.

In both cases the imagination is given power to set the frame for response.
In both cases the imagined fear, and its imagined control, are set as fact from which to then live, see and respond.

Because I hold all mind to be of Mind – it can never in truth be locked down and distanced as a separate bubble excepting as the imagination of word and definition, given priority in the mind of the desire to experience itself (its reality) in its own terms and conditions and at cost to a true relational appreciation (Reality).

And so any personal ‘reality’ can be yielded to the true currency of being. We can change our mind about our mind. The deconstruction of what we take to be Reality, that is revealed as a ‘reality-bias’, is deeply unsettling and undoes our sense of self in ways we could not expect or predict. The first urge is to get a LID back on asap – and this is the opening for the pushing of ‘solutions’ that merely repackage the old problem as IF to make a new start in a reset of fear to narrative dictate. If we resist temptation, we abide through fear to recognise an expanded appreciation that resolves the ‘problem’ from a deeper perspective as a result of being truly addressed rather than cast out to symptoms and diversionary masking.

As guilt is the most destructive and undermining emotional emotional state, I suggest choosing not to engage it, and to accept and own your choices as your life and learning.
But note that guilt and fear are the primary leveraging for these so called vaccines. There is hardly anything inherently medically threatening to the sickness parameters or asymptomatic biomarkers running under the definition of covid. There is much that is actively dangerous to sanity and life in the reactions that are now running as ‘socio-political’ dictates.

If you own what is yours and only that, then what has no belonging can be released.
The deceiver would guilt us for its own sins, just as banksters repackage toxic debts into novel packages by which to sell it to suckers who exchange value for the valueless.
It is a systemic corruption that seeks immunity from Disclosure!

424592 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to davews, #496 of 1640 🔗

A couple of questions; no need to reply if you don’t want to.

Did they give you the leaflet to read BEFORE, or AFTER, they pricked you?

Did you take the jab because you have any underlying health conditions?

Did you take the jab because you are a certain age?

Do you believe that vaccinating perfectly healthy people for a condition that, in the words of Chris Whitty, “hardly anyone will get, and those who do get it will have hardly any effects” is necessary?

I know what I probably let myself in for

I won’t criticise you, as requested, but I don’t think you do. (Just my opinion, don’t criticise.)

424893 ▶▶▶ davews, replying to Ceriain, 1, #497 of 1640 🔗

Leaflet given me at the door when I went in and time to scan it while I waited. 72 in a couple of months, no known issues and in good health but the government would see me as the vulnerable age group. I knew all the issues discussed here and was quite worried about ‘volunteering’ but I was prepared to take the risk. Maybe after a night’s sleep I may not be so positive in the morning.

424955 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to davews, #498 of 1640 🔗

Fair enough, thanks for replying, dave.

424115 Julian, 15, #499 of 1640 🔗


Hello and thank you for choosing to support The Great Reopening! We are raising money to develop our map system! As well as covering operating costs such as: Website hosting/domain, equipment, software, website development, plug ins, email servers, administration, moderation, graphics, designers, video creators, creating content for business owners and volunteers and more!

424117 this is my username, 10, #500 of 1640 🔗

Something to make you smile.

Covid: Man offered vaccine after error lists him as 6.2cm tall


424118 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 8, #501 of 1640 🔗

Feigl Ding showing he’s purely motivated in peddling fear. Here’s an attempt at highlighting long covid as a real issue because Gwyneth Paltrow has it:

Eric Feigl-Ding

Real: “I had #COVID19 early on, and it left me with some long-tail fatigue and brain fog,” Paltrow wrote

Fake: Paltrow “recommended some decidedly Goopy “detox” product (like an at-home sauna sack, hiking boots & $8,600 gem necklace) for long haulers.

and here’s somebody’s response to it showing she’s been suffering from long covid since 2017:

SecondOpinion https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f642.svg

LongCovid since 2017?

424128 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Nobody2021, 5, #502 of 1640 🔗

These fucking morons really are pathetic! GP has always turned my stomach.

424719 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Ganjan21, #503 of 1640 🔗

Paltrow has brain-fog? How can they tell?

424138 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to Nobody2021, 1, #504 of 1640 🔗

And nothing whatsoever to her fringe diet devoid of natural nutrients and minerals

424246 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Lindy, 1, #505 of 1640 🔗

Her immune system has been turkey slapped into oblivion long before the coof

424262 ▶▶ iansn, replying to Nobody2021, 2, #506 of 1640 🔗

She recommended the ‘air’ diet. You swallow air and it helps you lose weight. She is a shit for brains posturing waste of space. I’d no more take the advice of a snail than hers.

424130 C S, replying to C S, 17, #507 of 1640 🔗

There were a fair few complaints in recent weeks about the quality of the ATL articles. I must say that more recently the quality has reverted back towards where it used to be. Keep up the good work everyone involved! We appreciate your efforts immensely

424145 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to C S, 6, #508 of 1640 🔗

I suspect they had to retreat during the January onslaught. It got ugly for quite a while there.

424143 Binra, 2, #510 of 1640 🔗

Big Money control says ‘lockdown!’
to reshape corporates and social institutions
via regulatory capture,
under cartel monopoly.
that control as the capacity to choke life support,
to trap in false dependencies,
To set and protect narratives
that direct fear and funding.

Masking as virtue,
in global ‘concerns’.
Where PR runs public predation
as a world turned on its head.
Pharming the human
mind and body.
System Operators.
Global stakeholders.

Hiding corruption of fear set in malice,
Milking grievance to leverage sacrifice and denial
as the offset to toxic conflict and debt.
In death and taxes,
Big Money buys and sells ‘possession and control’,
as the dispossession of Soul of connection.

Nurtured grievances
Are problems given protection
from healing.
As long we we want to feed and protect
hate and fear
it will mask as the mind and world
of polarised conflicts
and systemic controls.

System breakdown is the deconstruction
of the Mask
to the revealing of the ‘Beast’
of a mindset as fear in hate and hiding.
Repenting of protected and persistent error,
allows release of self and world
from the masking lie of a
narrative dictate.
Love awakens
one willingness at a time.

Giving sets the measure for receiving
and giving to get or get rid of
is a self deceit
by which to pile up denials
in a hell of our own making.
As if the victim of anyone’s choice
but our own.
And suffer and die
as proof hate is real
and love a treachery and deceit.
Or the broken and frail victim
to psycho-pathological ‘Power’
worshipped externally
as the basis for replication
of such ‘power’ as a separated,
distanced and locked down ‘self’.
Desperately in need of allies
lockstepped in narratives of
masking reinforcement.

424144 Mark, 13, #511 of 1640 🔗

In the end we pull all of our observations together and publish them in CLUCK! (The magazine for Chicken Farmers) where we consider all of the evidence in the round and conclude firmly that there is no relationship between sacrificing chickens and whether it rains.

The sad end to the chicken story was omitted.

The scientist leading the study was denounced by a fat TV “celebrity” bloviator for spreading “dangerous” disinformation that threatens the very existence of chicken farming, and called an “uncaring murderer” for risking mass starvation. His study was removed from all internet outlets, and ultimately withdrawn by the editors of CLUCK!, who apologised and promised to submit all future articles for prior approval by a “fact checking” body approved by the Association of Sages. He was subsequently tragically murdered by a mob of angry chicken farmers.

All in all, a grim parable highlighting the evil of challenging The Science.

424147 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 9, #512 of 1640 🔗

Having anaysed the data, I have to come to the conclusion that ordinary people can bring this whole situation to a halt, and quite quickly.
Only 5% of deaths remotely connected to covid happen outside hospitals and care homes. We are given figures of 25% of infections occuring within hospitals by the NHS, others estimate it at 40%. I conjecture its far higher, something like 80% or more, otherwise the deaths ‘at home’ would be far more.
So people; stay away from hospitals, doctors or other medical staff/institutions. Do not go near them for respiratory problems, tests, check-ups, treatments of any sort for as long as possible. If everyone did this for a month, the recorded stats would plummet.
It would be so obvious the cause of this collapse that it would force the hand of all the experts/politicians so keen on keeping this charade going.

424224 ▶▶ Annie, replying to peyrole, 8, #513 of 1640 🔗

Ordinary people could have stopped the nonsense any time, if they hadn’t all been turned into ordinary zombies.

424151 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 15, #514 of 1640 🔗

‘No Lockdown’-Sweden Sees COVID Deaths Plummet Quicker Than ‘Fully-Locked-Down’ UK “The strict lockdown in the UK was so effective that it stopped the spread of Covid in Sweden as well…”

424198 ▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to Anti_socialist, 8, #515 of 1640 🔗

And yet the propaganda smear campaign against Sweden in the British press continues. Yesterday’s Times had quite a big article “Shutdown is on the cards, Swedes told”. Why would the British press bother to report on what the Swedes are doing as opposed to anywhere else? Because they know about “but Sweden…” and they are determined to squash it.

424153 Hairbartlet, replying to Hairbartlet, 1, #516 of 1640 🔗

Shit the bed!! Three upticks for Mayo. 🎂

424234 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Hairbartlet, 2, #517 of 1640 🔗


424155 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 10, #518 of 1640 🔗



424184 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Victoria, 1, #519 of 1640 🔗

He is a vet! say no more

424158 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 13, #520 of 1640 🔗

Simon Dolan asks: ”What on earth is Boris waiting for?”
Obviously, he’s waiting to be told what to do by those pulling his strings.

SD also says: ‘ This nightmarish Groundhog Dog will never cease to end unless the Prime Minister sticks to his guns and ignores the blinkered scientists, only fixated on getting cases down without giving a thought to the bigger picture….”

Naive, surely? Suggesting that these so-called ”scientists” DON’T give a thought to the bigger picture?

424174 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Banjones, 1, #521 of 1640 🔗

They don’t call scientists ‘mad’ for nothing

424160 Victoria, 31, #522 of 1640 🔗

If you are being tested whilst asymptomatic, wearing a mask, or obeying lockdown orders, I’m sorry but you are complicit in this nonsense continuing.


424163 Basics, 7, #523 of 1640 🔗

Currently there is a clip that has gone viral from yesterday’s sturgeon hour covid pulpit party political broadcast. Nickla Sturgeon appeans to pick & flick her nose. Simple straighforward disgusting. You can simply find the 10 sec video by search the hashtag #resignsturgeon.

We have had these so called leaders hypocritically break lockdown rules, travelling, we’ve had them not masking, not social distancing, now we have one that is hypocritical enough to breach the ‘face’ rule of their purile and dehrading hands face space.

424168 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 12, #524 of 1640 🔗

WHO Approves AstraZeneca Vaccine for Emergency Use, But Some Nations Say ‘No Thanks’
 The controversial vaccine, which Bill Gates has heavily invested in, is being rejected by some countries over widespread concerns about side effects and efficacy.


424521 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Victoria, 1, #525 of 1640 🔗

I read in a German publication this week that some officials or scientists there recommend the 2nd with a mRNA vaccine if you had AZ first.
Might as well shoot them.

424170 RickH, replying to RickH, 25, #526 of 1640 🔗

“A Senior Doctor Writes” provides some excellent analysis.

I won’t pick up on some of the issues that arise – all good analysis will beg questions. But I can’t let the following pass without comment :

I am not being overly critical of Professor Whitty. After 30 years of practicing clinical medicine I am acutely aware of how easy it is to make a mistake and how vulnerable one is when making prognostic predictions …. Professor Whitty is a highly capable doctor – his errant statement speaks to a wider point about accuracy of projections. No matter how eminent the commentator any prediction is simply an educated guess.”

Sorry – the truth of this, whilst beyond reproach, cannot be used to excuse Whitty.

He may be a ‘highly capable doctor’. But that is irrelevant. He is not just ‘a doctor’ – he is the Chief Medical Officer, whose role involves assessing information and making public statements that have massive consequences. In this role, he is astoundingly in competent (or wilful?).

I know that it was Vallance who made the statement about ‘4000 deaths a day’ – but I do not recall Whitty shouting ‘Patent Rubbish!’ or apologising for such an egregious error. Nor have I noticed him resigning for successive errors of judgment (remember masks?). He obviously hasn’t worried too much about the continued employment of Ferguson and repetition of Imperial College junk for propaganda purposes.

any prediction is simply an educated guess.”

How true that is – but note the word ‘educated’. I deliberately made such an ‘educated guess’ just after Vallance’s patently ridiculous pronouncement and, as I’ve posted before, it was more accurate by an order of about 10. The only response to the reality that was appropiate for Whitty if he wis competent was ‘Sorry – we fucked up Big Time.’ I don’t recall hearing it.

424176 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to RickH, 1, #527 of 1640 🔗

Great post. So true. No excuses

424195 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to RickH, 4, #528 of 1640 🔗

No explanation about the covid announcement Whitty made in May that Covid would only affect about 1% etc, he has altered his stance with no shame at all.

424204 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to RickH, 6, #529 of 1640 🔗

I’d take their views onboard if they were not aligned with a Bill Gates and the Davos crowd. However……. 😒

424522 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to RickH, 1, #530 of 1640 🔗

Highly capable
Highly culpable

424171 The Covid Kid, replying to The Covid Kid, 9, #531 of 1640 🔗

There is nothing ‘smart’ about wearing a face mask and never will be!

424189 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to The Covid Kid, 2, #532 of 1640 🔗

So she should wear one, if it works good for her, her views not mine. Its like other opinions don’t count with this lot

424196 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to The Covid Kid, 10, #533 of 1640 🔗

She looks like a pillock.

424332 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to The Covid Kid, 3, #534 of 1640 🔗

Eww, are they Codpieces, she’s a perv panty sniffer, is she related to Biden?

424178 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 14, #536 of 1640 🔗

So we are to dump our unwanted monkey gunk on the Africans

At the end of WWII huge amounts of unwanted munitions were dumped in the Irish Sea

In the 1950’s some wag came up with the bright idea of selling the tools of death to the Africans. This is still ongoing and unlikely to end well

The foreign aid budget is run along the same lines. Yes you can have £2bn as long as the contract is awarded to Justin who I was butt fucking at Eton

Justin funds a Think Tank in return

Think Tanks are the offshore arms of political parties. Murky funding is used to create non jobs for the political wannabes and nonces of the future

And so it goes on

424190 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Cecil B, 2, #537 of 1640 🔗

I think they will not want it.

424193 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Jo, 4, #538 of 1640 🔗

If there is a kickback in it they will take it

424194 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Cecil B, 1, #539 of 1640 🔗

That just about sums it up. 👏 👏 👏

424560 ▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Cecil B, 1, #540 of 1640 🔗

The full plan is this – Anyone taking our vaccine in Africa will get a free Club Class ticket to Heathrow with no compulsory fortnight imprisonment and guaranteed citizenship after 1 month. Meanwhile, the vaccine refuseniks from Britain will be taken in the hold of a fishing boat (thus saving the fishing industry) and sold into slavery in Mauritania – win,win.

424183 RickH, 14, #541 of 1640 🔗

Just a note about the ‘Informed Consent’ item.

In relation to this :

Informed consent (in this case of the public) can only have been obtained when the relative risks have been presented in a non-biased way without frightening them.”

I think it is also necessary (more mecessary?) to have information about absolute risk – which often puts a very different complexion on the risk assessment.

424186 Jo, replying to Jo, 45, #542 of 1640 🔗

Where my partner is working at the moment, there is a youngish man who has a friend living currently in Florida. I expect everyone knows that they are open and having a normal life there. Apparently, if anyone goes into a shop wearing a mask they are shouted at, told to take it off, and sometimes accused of being a communist!

424192 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Jo, 19, #543 of 1640 🔗

Sounds blissful!

424203 ▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to Jo, 9, #544 of 1640 🔗

How I long to laugh and snigger at the masked.

424221 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Smelly Melly, 7, #545 of 1640 🔗

Do it!

424187 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 9, #546 of 1640 🔗

Brilliant piece from CalvinRobinson on the abhorrent racism he has experienced this week at the hands of so called “progressives”.


Calvin Robinson: There’s no racist like a hard-Left racistdailymail.co.uk

424235 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Victoria, 2, #547 of 1640 🔗

Silly goose – it’s not racism when the woke do it

424249 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Crystal Decanter, 5, #548 of 1640 🔗
424188 B.F.Finlayson, 4, #549 of 1640 🔗

ATL worth reading today. Not before time.

424191 isobar, replying to isobar, 17, #550 of 1640 🔗

‘Only HALF of Covid jab appointments are taken up at mass centre in Manchester: Mayor Andy Burnham calls for roll-out to be expanded to younger adults so doses ‘just sitting in fridges’ don’t get wasted’



424202 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to isobar, 20, #551 of 1640 🔗

The cat has left the bag.

It is difficult to get a handle on how many or few are having the jab. I know some on here have, and my parents did it (perhaps usual suspects for being the kinds of people who chunter but comply). But clearly there are far more who are refusing than a tiny minority of extremists.

If enough of us hold out, the regime will be forced to retreat from its most fascistic threats. Only compliance from the vast majority permits the regime to bully the hold-outs.

424223 ▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Ovis, 10, #552 of 1640 🔗

Judging by the number of links both above and below the line to MSM fear-mongering, I sense that the regime is getting anxious about take-up and is now, via media and behavioural science, resorting to outright bullying.

It is so hard to get any perspective when you are mostly at home and don’t talk to many people. We are old and many people we know in our age-group have had a jab. Nobody has admitted to having any adverse reactions (yet).

The other thing we have no real idea of is how many adverse drug reactions there have actually been as the yellow card system is probably only capturing a small percentage of them. The reported deaths have been dismissed as coincidence or, ironically, ‘co-morbidities’.

Also does anyone know how the original trial participants have actually gone on, post-trials? Assuming that themselves won’t know whether or not they have had the ‘real’ injection how will that work? Will those in the placebo group be told they’d better have the jab or will they all be encouraged to have it, whether or not they’ve already had 2 doses?

How are they monitored? If the doctors speaking out against the vaccine are right and ADE, pathogenic priming etc can kick-in after 3+ months, would this ever be reported? Since there are only a few thousand of them all-told and they probably don’t know each other, bad news would probably be easy to conceal. MW

424366 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, 3, #553 of 1640 🔗

I have heard various experts say (and I am sure there is probably an official link somewhere) that everybody in the trial placebo groups was offered the vaccine on roll out which means there is no official long term comparison group in existence. This is completely at odds with standard trial parameters which, for vaccines at least, would require several years of ongoing monitoring of actual vaccinated group v. placebo group.

424813 ▶▶▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Dodderydude, #554 of 1640 🔗

Thanks. I suspect this may indeed mean that monitoring stopped at roll-out. MW

424357 ▶▶▶ Bigade, replying to Ovis, 1, #555 of 1640 🔗

Here’s hoping

424210 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to isobar, 8, #556 of 1640 🔗

Suspect the figure is nearer 25% as people not in the designated cohorts are rung up at home and asked to come in and make the numbers up to 50%

If the real figure is nearer 25% of those originally offered the ‘vaccine’ then the figures for people taking the ‘vaccine’ will soon plummet

The dictatorship will have known this for some time and it explains the media hysteria of the past month

Note to myself: Give it to the Africans and then count them in the figures

424212 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to isobar, 1, #557 of 1640 🔗

Waste the life instead of the vaccine.

424205 Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 1, #558 of 1640 🔗

Has anybody got a link to that clip on Sky news that was on Twitter about Captain Tom getting jabbed live on air or any other evidence that the Captain got jabbed?

424266 ▶▶ jos, replying to Two-Six, 2, #559 of 1640 🔗

There was a daily mail article about Janet Street-Porter complaining that the Queen, Prince Phil and Captain Tom had had their jabs but she’d heard nothing and later it was altered to delete the mention of the captain- I can try to find the original if you can’t get it online.

424284 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to jos, #560 of 1640 🔗

There is a clip out there somewhere it was on here just after he died but no idea how to find it again, I am sure it was very deeply buried.

424482 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Two-Six, #561 of 1640 🔗

Check computer history

424206 kvnmoore561, replying to kvnmoore561, 1, #562 of 1640 🔗

Hi, does anyone have a reliable comparison of Sweden and the UK in terms of infection rates before, during and after our 3 lockdowns? I’m just after something that shows the curves are pretty much the same and even better for Sweden with no lockdown. Thanks.

424231 ▶▶ Julian, replying to kvnmoore561, 1, #563 of 1640 🔗

I use this for Swedish data


“Reliable” data on “infection rates” for the UK is close to non existent because of the way tests are done but I think this has the “official” figures https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1100dash/prototype/wrapper/index.html

You could also look at the Zoe data here https://covid.joinzoe.com/data – it is self reported but they cross match with positive tests I think

424277 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Julian, 2, #564 of 1640 🔗

close to non existent “

No, Julian – just ‘non-existent’. Reliable data can’t be partially reliable.

424240 ▶▶ Jonny S., replying to kvnmoore561, 1, #565 of 1640 🔗

Julian beat me to the Swedish one. but official UK gov. one here.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases .

Of course as we all know thease are cases based on a flawed test but suffient to see the ebb and flow of the virus.

424250 ▶▶▶ Jonny S., replying to Jonny S., 1, #566 of 1640 🔗

I would also add to take care and note the number and especially the type of test being used and also the amount of pillar 1 (NHS) and pillar 2 ( general public)

424316 ▶▶▶ kvnmoore561, replying to Jonny S., #567 of 1640 🔗


424625 ▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to kvnmoore561, #568 of 1640 🔗

see UK column 19th february and Ivor Cummins youtube channel

424208 PastImperfect, 6, #569 of 1640 🔗

StandupX call for an “Army into London on 20th March”.

Stand Up X | Facebook

424213 Ovis, replying to Ovis, 25, #570 of 1640 🔗

Something I’ve noticed where I live is that the official propaganda signs are all well maintained, never allowed to get tatty. At the same time, there is almost no evidence of anti-lockdown signs/stickers etc.

From my own spates of distributing posters, I know they have disappeared almost instantly. Last night I saw stuck to a bus stop just the tiniest fragment of an anti-lockdown sticker (not put there by me, so clearly I have an unknown local ally). It must have been a bastard to pick off, and a very thorough job had been done.

So…who is taking down all our propaganda? How is it happening so quickly? Is it the same people who are maintaining the pro-lockdown propaganda? Are we dealing with motivated members of the public who dislike our message, or paid agents of the state who have nothing better to do?

Certainly, a great deal of effort is being expended in maintaining an environment that gives the impression that we are alone in our views.

424215 ▶▶ Kelly deacons, replying to Ovis, 9, #571 of 1640 🔗

My stickers have been removed too.Lucky me,I have loads more waiting to be stuck up!

424230 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Ovis, 4, #572 of 1640 🔗

Don’t forget to mask up and do your duty

424239 ▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Crystal Decanter, 5, #573 of 1640 🔗

That does pose a dilemma, doesn’t it?

Unfortunately, as I find masks genuinely intolerable, I have to rely on a hood and shifty look around before doing the deed.

424559 ▶▶ Stephanos, replying to Ovis, 2, #574 of 1640 🔗

This is interesting, well, somewhat. In my town, official propaganda that has been ruined or removed has not been put back; and the same is true of another town local to me.
So this does vary from place to place.

424214 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, #575 of 1640 🔗

Anyone know who this Virologist Examines 1,500 “Covid positive” Tests to find Influenza A and B: can you put a name to the person in this video?

424248 ▶▶ ThomasT, replying to Anti_socialist, #576 of 1640 🔗

I thought Delores Cahill said she did this the other week?

424325 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to ThomasT, #577 of 1640 🔗

I suspect it’s a group effort.

424252 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Anti_socialist, #578 of 1640 🔗

Doesn’t look much like him to me but 4chan suggest it is

424322 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 1, #579 of 1640 🔗

That’s obviously not the man in the video.

424346 ▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #580 of 1640 🔗


424380 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to Anti_socialist, #581 of 1640 🔗

Prof Dolores Cahill has been involved in this but unsure if she is the main person.

424216 Basics, replying to Basics, 4, #582 of 1640 🔗

Flag gobbledegook off topic.
Holyrood and St Andrews house have been flying an EU flag continuously since brexit day – they have not just been put up as has been said by some commentators. Our Union flag was being flown yesterday at Holyrood.

There has been a debate in Holyrood a few weeks ago – mid ‘pandemic’ – and a vote which was in favour of the EU flag being flown from Scottish Public buildings. I do not know the numbers of msp who took part nor the hourly rates and so as such do not know the cost to the tax payer of such rubbish.

I spoke with a Holyrood estate worker recently, we compared notes, my part was I suggested the EU flag being flown reflected on the estates staff poorly, incompetence perhaps. The estates staff member suggested that if they had their way they would burn it, they continued, more people voted to leave the EU than voted for krankie to be in power.

424267 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Basics, 2, #583 of 1640 🔗

EU flag and LGBTQWERTY flags no longer flying over Victoria Quay

424217 Boris Bullshit, replying to Boris Bullshit, 36, #584 of 1640 🔗

Survival Strategies in the face of tyranny.

A contributor on here called ‘Alice’ has sometimes said she lived for the first 20 years of her live under Soviet communism and explains how she had to develop ‘coping strategies’ to survive in it.

Being realistic we are facing an authoritarianism here that ,while differing on the details, is going to be broadly similar. We can see the drifting over to the lockdown cause of former sceptics like Littlejohn, Planet Normal, Snowden, Haimes, Hodges etc. Health passports, at one time seen as a conspiracy theory, are now clearly in the pipe line as are ‘no jab no job’ clauses. Masks and anti social distancing are clearly here to stay and ,even for those pubs and restaurants that survive, the experience there is going to bear no resemblance to what happened under the old normal.

Yesterday I had my first client to ask me if I had had the vaccine. I said I had not but I got the clear impression that it was assumed I would soon be having it. I wont be so I am going to have to lie to those that ask me or it will be ‘no jab no work’. I shall not feel guilty for lying as I think it is outrageous to be asked such an invasion of personal privacy.

I suspect we are going to become a very distrusted minority whose rights will come increasingly under threat…and don’t even expect some of those closest to you to be on your side. I have never been part of mainstream society in many ways so it at least is something I have already been partly used to. I am lucky that I am not an employee so I cannot be forced to have the stab to keep my job. I have also not been abroad for over 20 years so am unaffected by travel restrictions. I am also lucky that I am able to go often to an illegal cafe and remember the old normal (no masks, distancing…anything). Obviously I am not able to say where that is thanks to our lovely friends in the 77th brigade.

I feel very sorry for those who are affected by those things and whose rights will be crushed but were sceptics. I feel no sympathy at all for those who have collaborated in this and will also find their lives become miserable and barren. We will all have to find our own ‘coping strategies’….I play the piano a lot, work in my gardens ,cycle (but without the helmut and lycra), go for walks in remote areas well away from people and enjoy my cats and dog. I am envious of James Delingpole to be able to escape on his horse! I am fortunate to have a partner and best friend who are fellow sceptics…..other remaining friends and family have gone along with this so I no longer contact them. I never ever buy a newspaper nor pay the TV licence nor watch or listen to the mainstream media ever. As far as I am concerned the entire British State is corrupt and my enemy and the same goes for all big business and many small ones as well,

What are your ‘coping strategies’ going to be?

424220 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Boris Bullshit, 7, #585 of 1640 🔗

Larping as someone with a severe allergy to polyethelyne glycol

also possibly obtaining forged vaxx docs and sending into GP

424226 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Crystal Decanter, 10, #586 of 1640 🔗

Yes I already have a lanyard off e bay so have never worn a mask so I would definitely be in the market for forged vax documents.

424247 ▶▶▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Boris Bullshit, 10, #587 of 1640 🔗

Me too, I think there will definitely be a black market for those.

424227 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Boris Bullshit, 6, #588 of 1640 🔗

A Vendetta mask and a pitchfork 🤨

424233 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Barbara Baker, 13, #589 of 1640 🔗

Yes I like the pitchfork idea. I am quite prepared to participate in any amount of civil disobedience and resistance and am realistic enough to recognise that violence may end up being part of that. I think I would rather die in battle than live in the kind of world they have in store for us.

424928 ▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Boris Bullshit, #590 of 1640 🔗

Never take away too much from a person, or you will leave them with nothing to lose ” – Solzhenitsyn.

There will come a time of great mental freedom when we realise that the government has no hold over us, because they will have done their worst and we will still be alive.

Or we will live free and not care if we die; better to die on your feet rather than live on your knees.

424243 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to Boris Bullshit, 11, #591 of 1640 🔗

My coping strategy in a single phrase is “ go within “. Which by necessity means I have retreated from the external world in every conceivable way. I think I am holding up pretty well by comparison with many others, so I will continue with this approach.

424245 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Boris Bullshit, 9, #592 of 1640 🔗

Very glad you raised this as it’s important for us all. I feel our mentality is being tested to the limit and need to try and not allow ourselves to get overhwhelmed to the point of stress on our bodies and mind. This is a war on our very souls. We need to find the strength.
I have always usually been a bit of a ‘black sheep’ in my family, as my husband has been with his. Thankfully most of my family are sceptical but my husbands aren’t really. Our friends are a mixed bag but most are happy to socialise and hug when it suits them.
We already had plans before Covid to move and try to live ‘off grid’ as best we can. With 2 young toddlers, our focus is on their wellbeing and they keep us happily occupied amongst the sorry state the world is in today.
We are both bikers, we have a chicken coop, grow our own veg and have fruit trees ready to be moved. When we move we will get a couple of dogs and maybe a few ponies.
I need to focus on improving my physical health, I done a lot of running and yoga before but have felt so down these past couple of months I havent bothered. I know once I take them up again I will feel much better all round.
Its looking like this is going to go on for a long time and it would be good to develop some local sceptic communities so we can all share coping strategies together.

425099 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Ganjan21, 1, #593 of 1640 🔗

I raised it as its a thought that occupies me for much of each day. To avoid gradual descent into poor mental health and even suicide we all need to find ways of coping with this. You have plenty of good ideas in there and your dogs and ponies will give you much pleasure and remind you how animals are so much more sensible than most humans. I really hope it works for you. I find I am gradually reverting to my teenage life before I had money to participate in activities for which money was necessary. I did not use pubs or restaurants then and I cannot now either. So its back to bike rides and home made picnics and flasks of drinks!

424259 ▶▶ Felice, replying to Boris Bullshit, 17, #594 of 1640 🔗

Please send in those replies, as I need help to be able to cope.

As someone who has problems making good friends easily, I managed my life before all this by being a member of several groups, which gave me access of casual friendships. And by spending a couple of months a year walking the pilgrim paths of Europe, a cheap activity where it was possible to meet lots of open and friendly people, again for casual friendships. All gone now, and I just do not know what to replace it with.

I am in the difficult situation of needing social interaction but finding it difficult to initiate. My outlook has shrunk so dramatically this past 11 months, and even if all this nonsense stopped tomorrow, I doubt I would be able to recover quickly.

424402 ▶▶▶ Alethea, replying to Felice, 7, #595 of 1640 🔗

I hear you, Felice. I totally understand the importance of a friendly world, an open landscape of strangers to talk to and places to visit. The near-total destruction of civil society is an emotional disaster for people whose social selves are richly lived outside private homes.

424699 ▶▶▶▶ Felice, replying to Alethea, 3, #596 of 1640 🔗

A friendly world – that’s gone. I’m fed up with all the swervers who view me as a bio hazard, the mums who pull their kids away from me as I go past, the idiots who jump into the road. Something fundamental has been destroyed.

425104 ▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Felice, #597 of 1640 🔗

You have got that so wrong….remember we are all in this together!! The truth is we are not…..the richer groups are well insulated and the poor have had their lives devastated….do the richer groups care? Do they buggery.

It is a much less friendly world…mothers can be very tribal with children and are not always the selfless beings they claim to be.

I find I look at people less and less…..I just cant bear to look at their muzzled clocks.

424438 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Felice, 6, #598 of 1640 🔗

I know how you feel. How can I go back to associating with people I now know to be spineless fools and cowards? Or supporting organisations full of bleating sheeples, run by wicked tyrants?
It’ll be like being a member if the Resistance after the war.
OK. Right. A fresh start. I’ve done it before.

424696 ▶▶▶▶ Felice, replying to Annie, 1, #599 of 1640 🔗

It’s just such an effort now, to keep quiet when others prattle on about being jabbed etc. Just not worth it.

424990 ▶▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Felice, 1, #600 of 1640 🔗

just tell them they’ll be dead within 5 years. it’s what I always do.

425005 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to JaneHarry, #601 of 1640 🔗

Thanks for your excellent advice!

425105 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Annie, #602 of 1640 🔗

I really don’t think you can. How can you be friends with people who want to destroy your life?

424489 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to Felice, 1, #603 of 1640 🔗

i love the idea of walking the pilgrim routes ..having seen the tv programmes over the last couple of years – even though i am not religious.
I am in fortunate position of getting myself into an independent mode over the last few years so lockdown hasnt affected my social life. But not every one has sociopathy tendencies. But coming here has been good fun and has kept me sane and there are a lot of people here who i think i could happily spend time with.

424685 ▶▶▶▶ Felice, replying to mj, #604 of 1640 🔗

I’m no longer religious, and many of the people I met are not either. But there is a tangible spirituality about the routes, knowing that you are walking in the footsteps of thousands of others who came before.
I’m not even sure I want to go back again now. Things like spontaneous hugs, shared meals, casual open encounters, all of which made the journeys so special, are likely to be a thing of the past.

424515 ▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Felice, 2, #605 of 1640 🔗

I am with you Felice. I find it difficult to make friends, partly as I am terrible at contacting people of my own accord, because I often do not feel the need to interact and just exchange pleasantries to keep up the friendship.
I had a public facing job and two volunteer positions, which were plenty for me. Now I am struggling, especially as the few people I do have contact with are sheep.

424694 ▶▶▶▶ Felice, replying to Silke David, 1, #606 of 1640 🔗

I was going to volunteer for a couple of wild life trusts just before all this kicked off. Now all people can suggest are helping out at a food bank or delivering medicines for the elderly, both of which would require wearing a mask and being with lots of masked people, so not my idea of fun.

424315 ▶▶ BJs Brain is Missing, replying to Boris Bullshit, 6, #607 of 1640 🔗

My coping strategy? To leave this country as soon as possible. 40 years of liberalism has destroyed it from within. Most ‘men’ are that in name only. No guts, no courage, no get up and go, no fight in them… Pansies.

424320 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Boris Bullshit, 2, #608 of 1640 🔗

Change my name to Jeremiah Johnson head for the mountains

424331 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Boris Bullshit, 5, #609 of 1640 🔗

I said I had not but I got the clear impression that it was assumed I would soon be having it. I wont be so I am going to have to lie to those that ask me or it will be ‘no jab no work’.

The answer is that you are waiting for the vaccine trials to be completed regarding safety and will then make an informed decision

424359 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Boris Bullshit, 7, #610 of 1640 🔗

I’m old enough and misanthropic enough not to be too personally troubled by life as a dissident, though they will always manage to attack you somehow. One of the problems with big government types is that you can’t just ignore politics and get on with your life, they will always find ways to impose their evil and stupidity upon you, from trivial annoyances like seat-belt laws to “hate speech” nonsense and the outright totalitarian coronapanic.

Anyway, my children are adult, I’ve done enough travelling the world, so I can ignore a lot of the stuff.

My main coping strategy is to think like a dissident, and prioritise the issue I’m a dissident on, in almost every decision. Someone who is a coronapanic resister will almost always get priority for me, in almost every decision I make. Whether or not I like them or agree with them on everything, they are my kind and anyone who supports the panic and lockdown is not. Family complicates that, but friendship does not. I do not regard the government as legitimate, or the law as a moral force. I obey them when I have to or when it suits me anyway.

This is life, in a totalitarian state – one in which the state regards basic rights as privileges, and actively suppresses dissent.

425117 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Mark, #611 of 1640 🔗

Spot on as usual Mark…I have come to the conclusion that the whole British State is deeply corrupted and no friend of mine at all. I agree its difficult to avoid its meddling, I just try to have as little contact with it as humanly possible. We do now live in a totalitarian state and both political parties would have behaved in just the same way. We are told where we can go, with whom, where we can eat or drink, in what location and even with whom we can have sex. Its hard to think of any totalitarian state that has done all these things.

424980 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Boris Bullshit, 2, #612 of 1640 🔗

I think Soviet communism would have been a much better life than this, especially the post-Stalin, later years

425110 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to JaneHarry, #613 of 1640 🔗

I have thought that sometimes myself. As far as I am aware people could still meet and god forbid even have sex with a non household member. I think there was a degree of civil society too….here its electronic only.

424222 Richard O, replying to Richard O, 48, #614 of 1640 🔗

I was moved by the short interview with Charles Walker posted ATL today. Here is a politician who clearly cares very deeply about the unfathomable toll the catastrophic policies of the last year have inflicted on the British people. This is the kind of moral leadership that has been totally lacking in the executive branch. That he is in a tiny minority amongst his peers is no surprise.

I sincerely hope his reputation is not stained by being associated with the wretched and corrupt political party he is a member of. Much as I would like to see him resign the whip and stand in a by-election as an Independent (which he would surely win by a landslide), from a pragmatic viewpoint he can have more influence by staying within the Tory ranks.

Let the history of this disaster record that there was at least one good guy in Westminster.

424251 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Richard O, 2, #615 of 1640 🔗

Yes he is top man. Another 200 with principle and we would be ok.

424341 ▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to nottingham69, -13, #616 of 1640 🔗

He’s still a fucking politician, ergo he still needs to be strung up on The Mall.

Oh sure he may be making noises we like right now but he’s still an expenses troughing power-hungry liar who’ll tell you any shit you want to hear if he thinks you might vote for him.

424269 ▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Richard O, 8, #617 of 1640 🔗

yes he is a good person . i just hope he is also agaisnt vaccine passport and masks anyone know? it seems like he would be. i wont get a vaccine ..ever !

424333 ▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to sam s.j., 7, #618 of 1640 🔗

I think he sees the vaccines as a way out.

I’m not against that position it’s the coercion/mandating that I disagree with. I am sure Charles would be of the same view.

424225 Major Panic, replying to Major Panic, 3, #619 of 1640 🔗

Mayo posted this link earlier, the first 40 mins is a must watch, quite complicated but you”l get the gist….

(there’s less than 14hrs left to watch this for free)


Mayo – do you know if this is all the available ‘vaccines’ or mainly the mRNA jabs? – i have family who have had the first AZ jab

424229 ▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Major Panic, 3, #620 of 1640 🔗

It’s America so they were all mRNA. MW

424242 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, 1, #621 of 1640 🔗

I put in more simple terms – does what the clever man was saying apply to all the covid vacines?

424263 ▶▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Major Panic, 1, #622 of 1640 🔗

What don’t you understand? When these videos were made the injections used in America were Pfizer and Moderna i.e. mRNA. I believe that WHO has recently approved AstraZenica for emergency use. MW

424279 ▶▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Major Panic, 1, #623 of 1640 🔗

Right! No – they mostly discussed the mRNA ones. I think there were some general comments about the AstraZenica-type ones in the early videos. It didn’t sound like they were advocating for them but all the attention was on Pfizer/Moderna since that’s what people were being jabbed with at the time. Sorry, can’t be more specific. MW

424289 ▶▶▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, #624 of 1640 🔗

why is mRNA vaccine different to the AZ vaccine?

424295 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Major Panic, 2, #625 of 1640 🔗

How long have you got? Sorry, you’ll need to look it up. MW

424313 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, -2, #626 of 1640 🔗

i think you are trying to answer things you don’t understand yourself

424806 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG, replying to Major Panic, #627 of 1640 🔗

Please don’t be so rude. I did not try to explain anything to you as I am aware that others could do it better or you could do your own research. What I did was answer your original question because I had read your post and had seen the VR video. You asked simply which vaccines were being talked about which I answered. I did not answer anything I didn’t understand.

People have now provided you with links but the presentations on the mRNA vaccines on the V-Revealed videos are at least clear. They did not discuss the Astra-Zenica injection in detail because it was not being administered in the USA at the time. MW

424415 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jo, replying to Major Panic, 3, #628 of 1640 🔗

pfizer/moderna use single strand RNA, whilst AZ uses double strand DNA.

424291 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Major Panic, 3, #629 of 1640 🔗

This explains what the AZ jab actually is – slightly different delivery but still mRNA technology used

424324 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Barbara Baker, 1, #630 of 1640 🔗

thanks – ” The genetic information inside a viral vectored vaccine like ChAdOx1 is DNA rather than RNA. This DNA is a short linear piece of double stranded DNA which contains the viral genes along with the gene for the spike protein. The viral vector first infects the cell and then delivers this DNA to the cell nucleus

424330 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Major Panic, 2, #631 of 1640 🔗

No thanks.

424407 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Major Panic, 1, #632 of 1640 🔗

I’ve watched this whole series (9 progs – 2 of 3 interviews each prog) and although I didn’t agree with all of it, some of those people are inspirational. It costs a lot to buy them, which you will have to in order to watch them all now, but I will probably fork out because I think they need the financial support. All interviewees on the current one are excellent so anyone who has the time, watch it.

424237 Jo Starlin, replying to Jo Starlin, 19, #633 of 1640 🔗

I cried like a child reading Lisa’s story in today’s update. I hate the architects of this ruin so badly it’s hard to breathe sometimes.

424254 ▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Jo Starlin, 5, #634 of 1640 🔗

me too. wish we could get lisa to go get a coffee and not wear a mask and have her wonderful life back we are thinking of you lisa . come join us here , not the same but some hope

424258 ▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to sam s.j., 6, #635 of 1640 🔗

cant believe i said come join us here i w ant our old lives back not ‘live ‘in the computer world , but dont knwo what i d do wiht out wonderful commenters here

424304 ▶▶ Suzyv, replying to Jo Starlin, 7, #636 of 1640 🔗

Yes it was an upsetting read. Nearly all MP’s sitting in their large houses doing the odd zoom meeting on their large salaries and expenses haven’t a clue as to how this is affecting people especially the poor, the less skilled, the marginalised and so on. Indeed the great many wanting lockdowns would not want this if not in a comfortable position.

424428 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Jo Starlin, 3, #637 of 1640 🔗

Yes indeed, but it’s a better reason for not breathing than face knickers!

424253 stefarm, replying to stefarm, 30, #638 of 1640 🔗

Just been to Morrisons to pick up my shopping, the click and collect is kept in a refrigerated van in the car park. I normally chat to the ladies who pick the plastic boxes out (nearly every item in separate plastic bags!!!), I always help them unload and I carry the empty boxes back and hand them to them, which is in contrast to some of the other sheople who don’t even get out of their car or stand about 20 yards away wearing their face smothering.

Anyhoo, lady served me today wearing her branded Black smothering looking very uncomfortable –

me – ‘don’t wear that on my account, please get some fresh air, those things are dangerous and make you ill’

‘Phew, thanks, I will, when we ever get back to normal’

me – ‘never, not until the people wake up and take back our freedom’

‘hmm yeah, nothing makes sense, we have to wear a mask in a car, we are not allowed to travel together but I get a lift home, last week I saw a police car and the 2 policeman in the car weren’t wearing masks’

me – ‘what does that tell you, it’s a scam, they are making people sick and stopping people communicate, all of your germs are caught in the mask and you are breathing them back all day. Everybody is exempt, if I put my hand over an exhaust pipe of a car the fumes flood the engine and the card cuts out (not sure if that’s true but it served it’s purpose in the context of the conversation).

As this was going on the eyebrows on the lady were getting higher and higher, hmm, yeah, you are right…..

me – ‘Now, you have just touched your mask a few times whilst standing here, are you aware that you need to wash your hands every time you touch it and change the mask every hour (again not sure if it’s true….), I’m not accusing you of being full of germs but it’s good practice and hygiene, has your manager done a risk assessment as to the dangers to your health?’

‘I though it was the paper masks that has do be changed regularly I didn’t know it was all masks, risk assessment?? no – hasn’t been mentioned….oh dear, I see what you are saying, wow, that is dangerous. I had a bad cold last week, I knew it was a cold and wasn’t scared but I had to take a test before I could come back to work. Nightmare, what a waste of time. I’m not sure about this vaccine thing, a few people here have had it and have been off sick, more than usual.

me – ‘Please be very careful and look after your health, have a good weekend’

‘You too – bye’…

There you have it folks.

424287 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to stefarm, 12, #639 of 1640 🔗

“‘Now, you have just touched your mask a few times whilst standing here, are you aware that you need to wash your hands every time you touch it and change the mask every hour (again not sure if it’s true….)”

Yes it is true. This is part of the proper protocol with mask wearing in a clinical setting, requiring a lot of discipline which makes me laugh whenever someone says “but they wear them in hospitals…”

424343 ▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Katabasis, 7, #640 of 1640 🔗

You failed to omit one bit, every time you touch your mask, you have to change it and was your hands. Just in a shop now, asked about muzzle, told them no such thing about asymptomatic transmission, he prompted pulls his mask up and mumbles not another conspiracy theorist.

424348 ▶▶▶▶ Richard O, replying to Andrew K, 8, #641 of 1640 🔗

I find it hilarious that people consenting to the complete destruction of humanity and civilisation have the gall to accuse anyone who questions any part of this a “conspiracy theorist”.

Let them wallow in their wilful ignorance. They are all going away, and much sooner than they think.

424358 ▶▶▶▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Richard O, 4, #642 of 1640 🔗

Yes, it’s astonishing how those that don’t look at any facts whatsoever are happy to contradict those of us that do.

424255 Hellonearth, replying to Hellonearth, 59, #643 of 1640 🔗

I am sick of having people say to me ” I’m sure we will be allowed to see each other soon”. Besides the fact that I don’t need permission from anyone to see who I want, I just want to slap them round the face and say”wake up”. My sister said it to me yesterday, and I told her that we would be waiting a long time if she was waiting for Bozo to say it is ok. I didn’t get a response to that, she told me that I need to stop reading rubbish on the internet. I still love my siblings but my respect for them has greatly diminished. All sitting in their posh houses with big incomes, waiting for this nasty virus to disappear and life to get back to normal. What about all those people whose lives are already destroyed in one way or another?. Too many’ I’m alright Jack’ people around for my liking.

424265 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to Hellonearth, 15, #644 of 1640 🔗

They need to stop reading rubbish on the internet as well.

I am blessed that there are almost no people I personally deal with (be they family, friends, acquaintances or colleagues) who would dare to say anything like this to me. If anyone tries it on like your sister, they will get very short shrift, and will never speak to me again.

424268 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Hellonearth, 15, #645 of 1640 🔗

“she told me that I need to stop reading rubbish on the internet.”

I wonder what she reads…

424288 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to this is my username, 17, #646 of 1640 🔗

Just watch the BBC and read the Guardian, it’s all the good citizens need to know. Consuming anything else is just irresponsible.

424292 ▶▶▶ Hellonearth, replying to this is my username, 12, #647 of 1640 🔗

She doesn’t read anything with regards to the scamdemic, just listens to the msm and soaks it up like a sponge.

424327 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Hellonearth, 7, #648 of 1640 🔗

You should tell her to stop watching rubbish on the TV.

424967 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to JHUNTZ, 2, #649 of 1640 🔗

the point is, very few of us have got our own microbiology labs where we carry out our own independent research. everyone thinks themselves so fucking rational, so well-informed, but in the end it is purely a matter of faith, a leap in the dark, it comes down to who you decide to trust and believe, and how much. I trust nobody. I would actually admit that I don’t really know whether there is such a virus as ‘sars cov 2’ or not, perhaps there is after all, but really that’s not my point, my point is why should i take it on trust from those lying assholes? why should I give them the slightest credit? the usual default position is that we assume people are honest and truthful unless the evidence suggests otherwise – well, that default position has now reversed.

424257 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 12, #650 of 1640 🔗

A radical solution would be to move from home laundering to in-house industrial laundering of uniforms

This made me laugh. My wife is a senior nurse, she goes through elaborate rituals of washing, storing & transporting of her uniforms for work, since some 8yrs or so the Hospital closed its laundry to save money for manager bonuses.

I’ve never had the heart to explain to her our 25yr old Bosch washing machine really doesn’t do what it says on the temperature knob! Especially as its only fed cold Scottish highland water.

424282 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Anti_socialist, #651 of 1640 🔗

Hah. Snap – I’ll show my wife this, it will make her chuckle.

424264 Bugle, replying to Bugle, 49, #652 of 1640 🔗

Noticed on a bus shelter today: “Covid thrives on human contact.” It’s hard to know where to start with such an inhuman, mean-spirited statement. These people are evil, no mistake.

424276 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Bugle, 8, #653 of 1640 🔗

Like dissent….
The real reason for SD, contact restrictions etc..

424290 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Bugle, 20, #654 of 1640 🔗

Humans thrive on human contact! You’re right though, evil is really the only word to describe it.

424308 ▶▶ danny, replying to Bugle, 19, #655 of 1640 🔗

Somebody should add to it with a marker pen. “Mental illness thrives on lack of human contact”.

424271 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 38, #656 of 1640 🔗

My most recent letter to Ireland’s Taoiseach:

Dear Mr Martin

Now that we can see that lockdowns are for life, why don’t you do it properly and allow people to register to be euthanised to stop the spread of the never isolated, computer modelled COVID 19?

Doing so would allow for a reduction in population (the real aim of this process) and, if successful in Dublin, would free up property to ease the housing crisis.

On a separate matter, I see the Deputy CMO Mr. McGlynn was quoted on RTE expressing concern about putting Vitamin D into people’s bodies, but has no concerns whatsoever about the experimental gene therapy masquerading as “vaccines” being put into people’s bodies.

Both you and he need a lesson on the Nuremberg principles. Having said that, so do the civil and public service administering this new regime.

424283 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Ewan Duffy, 7, #657 of 1640 🔗

Mr. McGlynn, like most people in public ‘health’ these days, seems to have studied medicine at the Leonardo Conti School of Medicine.
He should investigate its patron’s fate.

424305 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 8, #658 of 1640 🔗

I know that Martin has some good skills – e.g. wildly waving his hands while looking like a demented alien. But he can barely speak and I doubt whether he can read, so don’t expect a reply to your letter!

I scraped this quote from elsewhere today – does this make ANY sense at all? If so, I can’t see it.

Taoiseach Micheál Martin said that “it’s been a long lockdown already and I would say to people it’s worth it”. “We are looking at a continuation of severe restrictions right into April,” he said. “We’ve already certainly indicated that beyond Easter we’ll look at it again but until the end of April you can look at significant restrictions and we’ll review it after that then because we’ll have to see where we are.”

424272 SimonCook, replying to SimonCook, 12, #659 of 1640 🔗

BAME groups urged to have Covid vaccine in UK TV ad campaign

Carolyn McCall, the chief executive of ITV, said: “Encouraging take-up of the vaccine will save lives. That’s why ITV has worked with the other broadcasters to create a unique ‘roadblock’ simultaneous transmission so that this message is delivered to the most people at the same time.”
Alexandra Mahon, CEO of Channel 4 , said: “Channel 4 has significant reach with diverse audiences across the UK and we’re delighted to be able to help get this important message far and wide at such a critical time.”
Stephen van Rooyen, Sky’s CEO for UK and Europe, said: “Sky is proud to be part of the biggest roadblock in television history, to tackle one of the biggest challenges that we have ever faced and make a difference to so many lives.”
Timothy Davie, director-general of the BBC , said: “Vaccinations will make a vital difference. That’s why the issues raised by this film are so incredibly important. It is crucial that everyone knows the truth about vaccines. We know there is lots of misinformation online and elsewhere. That’s why the BBC will be looking at the issues raised so extensively.”

424278 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to SimonCook, 9, #660 of 1640 🔗

Good evidence for their upcoming trials….

424285 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to SimonCook, 13, #661 of 1640 🔗

The media arm of the Medical Mafia swinging into action. Nothing they broadcast will make the slightest bit of difference to anyone who has already decided to refuse. Indeed it will largely strengthen their resolve and lead to greater resistance and intransigence.

These fools need to stop pussyfooting around and cut to the chase. Coercion by direct violence against anyone who refuses. I wish they’d hurry up and get on with it.

424286 ▶▶ Wolver, replying to SimonCook, 5, #662 of 1640 🔗

Could it be that the mistrust comes from all the Bill & Mel sponsored vaccine and drug trails their communities are subjected to in their ancestral homelands..?

424293 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to SimonCook, 2, #663 of 1640 🔗

What the freekin flip is a Roadblock?

424298 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Two-Six, 6, #664 of 1640 🔗

Probably just trying normalise another term. For when actual roadblocks are common place to prevent the unjabbed from travelling anywhere.

424311 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to leggy, 8, #665 of 1640 🔗

The real “roadblock” is BAME people and anyone else refusing the gene modification. The more of us there are, the more difficult for the regime to push ahead with its project.

424312 ▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Two-Six, 5, #666 of 1640 🔗

It just means an opportunity for everyone with a functioning brain cell to switch off at 21:56

424326 ▶▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to TheOriginalBlackPudding, 2, #667 of 1640 🔗

I think they’ve never heard of a mute button….

424403 ▶▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to TheOriginalBlackPudding, 1, #668 of 1640 🔗

The only “good” thing about “look them in the eyes” was the ghastly ghoulish music at the start, at which point I pounce on the remote.

424299 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to SimonCook, 15, #669 of 1640 🔗

They assume minorities are too thick to comprehend, rather than the truth which is many of them come from countries with first hand vaccination horror stories.
The Woke as as racist as they come, however as it is state sanctioned = perfectly fine

424307 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to SimonCook, 13, #670 of 1640 🔗

I have complained to ASA, more coercion and emotional blackmail “having the vaccine is only way to see your family”

I think we still have the right to refuse any medical intervention, funny that is not mentioned in the ad

Really easy to do.

424337 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Lindy, 5, #671 of 1640 🔗

Great. We should all complain to ASA

424349 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to SimonCook, 3, #672 of 1640 🔗

Since when was the word ROADBLOCK ever associated with anything beneficial?

424634 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to SimonCook, #673 of 1640 🔗

What a load of complete bollocks; they’re doing it for the money.

424274 JayBee, replying to JayBee, 4, #674 of 1640 🔗


With regard to Prof. Elliott’s ‘study’, SAGE and others, this is what the former head of one of Germany’s secret services, HG Maassen, stated and explained last week: scientists deliver solely what’s demanded of them by ministers.
And if you want to use their name and reputation as well instead of just their competency, it’s much more expensive for you.

424310 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to JayBee, #675 of 1640 🔗

German no subs 🙁 utube translation makes it unintelligible.

424297 Seansaighdeoir, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 25, #676 of 1640 🔗

Furlough extended to summer. Which means lockdown extended to summer.

Always expected furlough to become UBI no sign yet that is not the plan.


424301 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 24, #677 of 1640 🔗

That is the plan – once the businesses have failed and those people have no jobs to go back to, they will be slaves on UBI and if they don’t want to take the vax they won’t be able to get their UBI. It’s a horrible prospect.

424309 ▶▶▶ Seansaighdeoir, replying to this is my username, 3, #678 of 1640 🔗

Yep sadly I concur.

424318 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to this is my username, 1, #679 of 1640 🔗

The nasal spray vaxx may be a compromise worth holding out for

424321 ▶▶▶▶ Richard O, replying to Crystal Decanter, 19, #680 of 1640 🔗

Not for me, they can shove every single treatment where the sun doesn’t shine.

424427 ▶▶▶▶ John001, replying to Crystal Decanter, 2, #681 of 1640 🔗

Or being injected with some live common cold coronavirus.

Why that option wasn’t investigated is beyond me. This is also a coronavirus, just a more severe one. The common cold is pretty safe except to frail 88 yr-olds. People full of vitamin D probably wouldn’t get any symptoms, yet they would be … vaccinated.

424444 ▶▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to John001, 1, #682 of 1640 🔗

They can stick the jab up their arse
However the nasal spray appears to be a neutered form of Hcov-Oc43 (which itself can be as nasty as Sars-Cov2) and the two are the most closely related human CV’s
Prob works better as well

424335 ▶▶▶ jb12, replying to this is my username, 4, #683 of 1640 🔗

Maybe you don’t know, but what benefit is there to the government in paying people to sit at home forever and not contributing anything to the economy. I get the idea that they will be dependent on the government, but how does it benefit anyone having tens of millions taking but producing nothing?

424350 ▶▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to jb12, 8, #684 of 1640 🔗

There will be a vast depopulation at a guess. I can’t see any way they are going to want to pay lots of people to stay at home and do nothing. But it’s a communistic sort of idea, and we know how good those regimes were at killing millions of their own people.

424433 ▶▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to this is my username, #685 of 1640 🔗

Then what? You have a small, unskilled population ripe for plucking by any country with a decent-sized army.

424362 ▶▶▶▶ leggy, replying to jb12, 10, #686 of 1640 🔗

Because to “build back better” (obviously it won’t be better for the vast majority), you have to destroy what already exists first. That includes the fiat currency systems. To be replaced by digital currencies which are fully controlled for distribution and taxation purposes whilst linked to a Chinese style technocratic social credit system.

424368 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to leggy, 5, #687 of 1640 🔗

Sunak is very pro digital currency so the perfect chancellor to have. One could almost say this goes back to Javid going to be replaced by a yes man who is anti self employed and small business, pro digital currency and quite left in his thinking.

424429 ▶▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to leggy, 1, #688 of 1640 🔗

That doesn’t answer the question, which was: how can a country pay people to sit at home and produce nothing?

424469 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to jb12, 3, #689 of 1640 🔗

I think they believe robots will pick up the slack. Human are becoming redundant to their plans. It is insane and the timescale they intend to do it is ridiculous.

424476 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ leggy, replying to jb12, 2, #690 of 1640 🔗

Why can’t it? Capitalism isn’t the only system available and even in capitalist societies there is often a welfare state that effectively pays people to sit at home and do nothing. If you control the supply and nature of a currency, you can do what you wish with it.

424730 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to leggy, 1, #691 of 1640 🔗

Well, you can’t. Eventually the currency has to mean something, someone has to pick up the slack, even if that is outwith the UK. The only way this whole UBI forever thing works is if you believe the whole world is in on the scam, especially in an import-heavy country like the UK.

424932 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to jb12, #692 of 1640 🔗

which is why they’re going to kill us

424920 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to this is my username, #693 of 1640 🔗

can’t we all set up some alternative community somewhere? something like a hippy commune?

424302 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 25, #694 of 1640 🔗

Entirely predictable. And it will be extended again and again, until the entire economy is destroyed and it morphs into Universal Basic Income with multiple strings attached.

Lockdown is permanent folks. Get used to it.

424319 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Richard O, 10, #695 of 1640 🔗

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

424329 ▶▶▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to awildgoose, 1, #696 of 1640 🔗

And nothing is all that Boris left us…

424423 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Richard O, -5, #697 of 1640 🔗

Lockdown is permanent folks.


Get used to it.

Sadly having to get used to your negative shite, Richard. Were you ever in a team of any sort ?

424303 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 9, #698 of 1640 🔗

I wonder what I will be entitled to, probably nothing, again. I wonder how many lockdowners could survive over a year with a 70% pay cut like me.

424306 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 6, #699 of 1640 🔗

That’s not “news”. If I’ve said once I’ve said it a gazillion times, lockdowns are here forever!

424425 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Anti_socialist, #700 of 1640 🔗

Try saying it a gazillion squared times. Maybe that would make it true.

424443 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to JohnB, 4, #701 of 1640 🔗

Try bloody shutting up about it, Richard. The last thing we need is a gazillion defeatist bleats.

424317 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 7, #702 of 1640 🔗

Exactly as planned for the not-so-great reset.

424352 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 5, #703 of 1640 🔗

Not surprised if this does happen, the snippets of the so called roadmap to keep pubs and hospitality closed to the summer was only ever going to mean furlough extended. At least confirms my thoughts on Sunak is as much to blame for this as the rest of them and how weak he is.

424356 ▶▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #704 of 1640 🔗

He’s a classic enabler.

424363 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, #705 of 1640 🔗

Certainly enables those members of the population who may have been just beginning to question the narrative to be easily bribed again.

Wonder if they dare say no vaccine no furlough?

424365 ▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to Cumbriacracked, 3, #706 of 1640 🔗

Sunak is the anaesthetist – keeping the patient on furlough until his job is gone.

424401 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to this is my username, 1, #707 of 1640 🔗

Strange how the news will be made before the May 6th elections.

424446 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Cumbriacracked, 3, #708 of 1640 🔗

Not weak. Wicked. He could stop it with three words: No. More. Furlough.

424418 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 1, #709 of 1640 🔗

Another excuse to keep us locked up, as mentioned the European football championships are taking place in the summer, the useful idiots in charge will not want people mixing in homes to watch the games especially as Scotland are playing England, wouldn’t be surprised to see alcohol classed as non-essential. Perish the thought of people being all patriotic and getting pissed up at a summer bar-b-q and then wave number x in the autumn and winter, a continual loop

424647 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 2, #710 of 1640 🔗

Liam Halligan said on the Planet Normal podcast that Sunak would do this; he actually said Sunak had no choice but to do it.

Halligan has been talking to businesses up and down the country that are effectively bust; the owners know it, and only keep the pretense of having a business going to allow staff to continue receiving furlough money.

Furlough has just become a con to cover up the actual unemployment numbers; another scam to make the sheep think everything is going to be okay.

424300 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 12, #711 of 1640 🔗

Any legal minded among you could offer thoughts on “ no jab no job ” for employer-employee legal accountability?

We all know under UNESCO treaty/law? All medical treatment should only be given by conformed consent. Vaccine manufacturers are given immunity from civil litigation by government order etc…

But if you were coerced / forced to be vaccinated by threat of dismissal & you suffered life changing side effects could you sue your employer, presumably they have no immunity & therefore could conceivably be held accountable in civil litigation.

However, I note before the vaccines were rolled out government held consultation also giving vaccinators (people pushing the plunger) immunity. I’m not aware of the outcome of the consultation. But would this cover employers asses?

424314 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Anti_socialist, 10, #712 of 1640 🔗

Make the jab conditional (employer/GP etc) on signature of a liability letter
(pro tip– they won’t)
Proforma can be found here


424388 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Anti_socialist, #714 of 1640 🔗

Legal opinions (like scientific and medical) vary because this is new territory. I would suggest people use the form posted by CD but also get a group together (via social media if necessary) to get a group action, and preferably with an injunction pending the action. Perhaps someone like Kirsty Brimelow QC might be interested???

424411 ▶▶▶ The Rule of Pricks, replying to Jo, 3, #715 of 1640 🔗

Is there proforma for enforced testing of children? One that I can present to the school when they insist the children are tested?

I intend to make my childs school liable for any financial damage caused by them demanding a negative test before my kid is allowed back into school.

If he tests positive which then is shown to be false by lack of symptoms, a second test and medical diagnosis I will go after them for loss of earnings, additional childcare costs, extra tuition to catch up etc.

424417 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to The Rule of Pricks, #716 of 1640 🔗

Good luck, TRoP.

‘usforthem’ is probably a good place to look.

424439 ▶▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to The Rule of Pricks, #717 of 1640 🔗

Good idea indeed. One other piece of ammo potentially, is to find out the manufacturer of the tests in your local area; many of them now are making a point of saying in their accompanying material, that the test should be administered in correlation with clinical symptoms.

424416 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Jo, #718 of 1640 🔗

Can I sue myself if I’m self-employed, seriously I wasn’t looking for legal advice it was just a curious thought, an academic question?

424323 Squire Western, replying to Squire Western, 5, #719 of 1640 🔗

I see Boris has announced that he is going to donate our leftover vaccines to ‘developing countries’. How about including France amongst those countries to wind up little Macron?

424328 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to Squire Western, 20, #720 of 1640 🔗

That there are leftovers at all tells me that they are lying through their teeth about the number of people who have received the treatment.

I think we can now safely assume that “offered” = “vaccinated” in government statistics.

424334 ▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Richard O, 16, #721 of 1640 🔗

If true, that’s great news. The vaccine passport is dead without majority compliance.

424347 ▶▶▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to Ovis, 8, #722 of 1640 🔗

Agree. The more people who have the vaccine the more likelihood of vaccine passports. Let’s also see how the threats to younger people go in Israel.

424345 ▶▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to Richard O, 13, #723 of 1640 🔗

Agree Richard. I was first contacted by text first week of Feb – I just scrape into group 8. We know what the uptake was in Leicester hospitals (much talk about it being BAME-heavy population but 70% of white doctors declined), care home staff (67%) and now Andy Burnham saying only 50% taking appointments at the large Manchester site. They are conflating ‘offered’ with ‘accepted’.

424477 ▶▶▶▶ liztr835, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, 5, #724 of 1640 🔗

I am normally pro vax, but will not be having this one, the amount of doctors who are not having it says it all to me, they cant think it’s safe.

424339 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Squire Western, 3, #725 of 1640 🔗

Donate or flog, or at least the hope of future business

424342 ▶▶ nic, replying to Squire Western, 1, #726 of 1640 🔗

At least their schools and hospitality r still open.

424382 ▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Squire Western, 4, #727 of 1640 🔗

There won’t be any left over unless the use by date is near. The plan will change into giving every sheep at least one each of the “vaccines”. The scamdemic is intended to never go away. Also they would risk embarrassment if one of the supposedly unenlightened countries told the UK where to shove their potions.

424336 PW, 10, #728 of 1640 🔗

OffGuardian has a great article yesterday, all about vested interests…….it’s compulsive reading!

424340 nic, replying to nic, 21, #729 of 1640 🔗

Unfortunately, most people have gone soft in this country , countless young people in town outside muzzled up today , their stupidity astounds
me but this is what we are up against ,a dumbed down population unable to think for themselves.

424364 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to nic, 11, #730 of 1640 🔗

But why are they muzzled? Possibly because the muzzle has been associated with adult status, which adolescents crave. Also perhaps because all the messaging about irresponsible youth has given them the impression ‘society’ wants them to muzzle.

It will not be fear of Covid

424370 ▶▶▶ Squire Western, replying to Ovis, 7, #731 of 1640 🔗

Maybe they are drug-dealers? A mask, sunglasses and a hoodie and they are incognito.

424503 ▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Ovis, 2, #732 of 1640 🔗

I always get very upset when I see small children with it.
But I think often the kids want it as they copy the adults and look “grown-up”.

424915 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Ovis, #733 of 1640 🔗

They are afraid of being blamed for spreading covid…..they feel peer pressure on social media so have their photos on in masks. Its virtue signalling on a grand scale and they associate non mask wearing as ‘selfish’ and ‘non progressive’. The young lambs can be worse than the old sheep!

424421 ▶▶ Annie, replying to nic, 7, #734 of 1640 🔗

The young have always been like sheep, bleating in unison, being outside the group the worst thing in the world.

424474 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to nic, 4, #735 of 1640 🔗

The trend in the home counties where I am for young men seems to be what I call the male Niqab, the full on male ISIS look ,black hoodie pulled up at all times, black jeans, black facemask and only the eyes showing. I think some of them like being totally incognito. For young women its all about pretty flowery masks, or in colours to match their outfits, I have even seen sequined ones, which I think are even more disgusting as they must harbor far more bacteria than the normal filthy cloth ones.

424545 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to liztr835, #736 of 1640 🔗


424353 Anti_socialist, 2, #737 of 1640 🔗
424355 John Galt, replying to John Galt, 28, #738 of 1640 🔗

We may end up in a situation where we have to “wait it out”. Due to this, I’d highly recommend that you all prepare a store of food and water, and whatever else you think you’d need.

One of my fears is that they will force us into a scenario where we have to comply with something we don’t want to comply with, such as the vaccine, in return for something we need to survive, such as food. This could be in the form of a manufactured food shortage. “Due to x we’ve got a nationwide food shortage! We can give out rations but only to the vaccinated!” A scenario like this won’t last for a long time, but say it lasts a week – if you have no supplies then you’re at their mercy, but if you do have supplies then you can wait it out until the situation ends.

424372 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to John Galt, 14, #739 of 1640 🔗

Very sound advice. As I do not have a garden, I am going to start looking into suppliers of nutrient-dense dried food packages which keep for years and take up comparatively little space. There are loads in the States but we must have plenty of similar providers here.

Another scenario which needs to be prepared for is a banking crash with a subsequent bail-in. In Cyprus in 2008 all banking services (including ATMs) were shut for weeks, and when they reopened all depositors had 50% of their savings confiscated.

424381 ▶▶▶ Jo, replying to Richard O, 8, #740 of 1640 🔗

Not to everyone’s taste, but chickpeas, lentils and other pulses will keep virtually forever and just have to be (soaked overnight, in some cases) and cooked – can do them in larger batches and freeze. But tinned ones are also good, but the dried take up less room. Most nuts have a long shelf-life too.

424431 ▶▶▶▶ rockoman, replying to Jo, #741 of 1640 🔗


424383 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Richard O, 11, #742 of 1640 🔗

True about the ATMs in Cyprus but the ‘bail in’ only affected those with over 100,000 Euros in their account.

424385 ▶▶▶▶ Richard O, replying to isobar, 3, #743 of 1640 🔗

Thanks for the correction, and apologies for the misinformation.

424389 ▶▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Richard O, 3, #744 of 1640 🔗

No problem!

424554 ▶▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Richard O, 3, #745 of 1640 🔗

Said Marianna Spring never

424390 ▶▶▶ John Galt, replying to Richard O, 2, #746 of 1640 🔗

Let us know if you find anything suitable, as that would be good to store. I’ve looked at ration packs but the ones I’ve found are very expensive for the amount of calories they provide. My staples are rice and tinned fish. I’ve also got a big bag of protein powder, which I use regularly anyway, as I found that my stores were very carb heavy.

Good point on the money. I need to look more into the monetary side of things.

424406 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to John Galt, 4, #747 of 1640 🔗

Most tinned food lasts way past it best before, just avoid acidic foods eg tomatoes have shorter shelf life. Most dried foods last a good time, but avoid stuff like wholegrain that still has natural oils which will go rancid, if you store in sealed UN approved drums you increase life significantly.

Just buy food you’d normally eat, & eat & replace before it goes off, best before is for guidance, food will likely just slowly lose colour and taste but last 5yrs easy. I’ve seen people eat canned goods from 1940s & not die LOL.

424396 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Richard O, 5, #748 of 1640 🔗

Worth keeping a couple of 20KG sacks of rice as a staple.

424373 ▶▶ Jo, replying to John Galt, 5, #749 of 1640 🔗

I bought a second freezer a couple of months ago. Stocked it with veg, as my store cupboards are full of dried goods.

424379 ▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Jo, 6, #750 of 1640 🔗

Watch out for when there are power cuts.

424375 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to John Galt, 13, #751 of 1640 🔗

Got it covered, at least good rations for 6 months for 2, modest savings in physical gold, solar panels for battery charging, candles for lighting, big veg garden, good store of essential meds (paracetamol was worth more than gold back in march 2020) etc. I could last a year easy with no government at all.

It’s perfectly legal to own a longbow, just not shot people with it or hunt with it ;-).

424391 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Anti_socialist, 4, #752 of 1640 🔗

Similarly prepared here. I’m doubling the size of the veg garden this year. Have also formed a kind of co-op with a group of local friends and we swap produce.

My only concern is the huge volume of food that the resident teenagers seem capable of consuming.

424408 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to John Galt, 4, #753 of 1640 🔗

A scenario like this won’t last for a long time, but say it lasts a week – if you have no supplies then you’re at their mercy

After a week, you are merely hungry.

424422 ▶▶▶ John Galt, replying to JohnB, 1, #754 of 1640 🔗

Haha, that’s true. Perhaps I should have said a few weeks, as that’s survivable on a fast. It will be far more pleasant to have a full belly whatever the length of time though, and it will keep your mental state in a much better position than it would be otherwise.

424440 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to JohnB, 2, #755 of 1640 🔗

You’re also pretty damned pissed off.

It’s often and in various forms been asserted that a society is only three meals away from barbarism.

424458 ▶▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Mark, #756 of 1640 🔗

Nah they will be alright. The big box just needs to remind them that they are not hungry and hunger is misinformation. That’ll keep them placated.

424979 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Mark, 1, #757 of 1640 🔗

I’m only ever one meal from barbarism. But who’s counting ? 🙂

424493 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to John Galt, 4, #758 of 1640 🔗

I thought this all out a few years ago, and was afraid to admit it to people as I would seem like a mad conspiracy theorist. I have open fires in my home with stored fuel for them, so I can heat and cook without electricity in an emergency, a large store of dried/canned foods and other essentials in bulk. I am also a good cook and can cook from scratch. I bought a solar powered radio and a wind up charger for phones and other devices, lots of batteries just incase. The veg garden will be the next project.

424547 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to liztr835, 1, #759 of 1640 🔗

Very wise of you, my own motives had nothing to do with conspiracy theories or apocalypse, i just simply have no faith in government to look after me or wish to be dependent on them, if shit happens. And things can turn to shit surprisingly fast. Our 21st century lifestyles gives us a false sense of security. Save some veg seeds to in case things go on longer than you would expect.

424360 awildgoose, replying to awildgoose, 10, #760 of 1640 🔗

German state forbids drivers from wearing mask, sunglasses, and hats at the same time because it defeats facial recognition:


424371 ▶▶ Squire Western, replying to awildgoose, 10, #761 of 1640 🔗

Best reason I can think of to wear one of the damned masks.

424500 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to awildgoose, 1, #762 of 1640 🔗

In Berlin you have to wear masks in a car if you are of different households. Police are checking.

424974 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Silke David, #763 of 1640 🔗

Cool. ‘Papers please’, from an armed German in uniform. John Cleese should bring Basil back for one last hurrah !

424367 HoMojo, replying to HoMojo, 21, #764 of 1640 🔗

Have (ex) friends on Facebook (which I rarely visit these days) all congratulating themselves for getting the vaccine, how relieved they are etc etc. So that’s the narrative most of them are following. Ever felt like a pariah?

424374 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to HoMojo, 14, #765 of 1640 🔗

They are the pariahs, they just don’t know it yet.

424384 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to HoMojo, 15, #766 of 1640 🔗

They might not be quite so joyful when they promise of release from LD3 disappears in a puff of smoke on Monday evening

424413 ▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Lindy, 8, #767 of 1640 🔗

I fear the regime will give enough to keep them sweet.

Schools opening. Outdoor attractions?

Kicks and kindness. The spaffing Johnson isn’t just going to stand there and say ‘Fooled you, proles!’

424405 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to HoMojo, 9, #768 of 1640 🔗

Ever felt like a pariah?

If the alternative is

(a) using Facebook
(b) getting a ‘vaccine’

who the fuck would want to be anything else ?

424369 Les Tricoteuses, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 16, #769 of 1640 🔗

My Spanish is very rusty but looks like second jab postponed as care home suffers 46 deaths following first dose. Whatever the cause these . events need investigation.


424386 ▶▶ pvenkman, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 2, #770 of 1640 🔗

They seem to also be complaining about the lack of outside support and they don’t have the right equipment, it seems the fire service is helping clean.

424392 ▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 6, #771 of 1640 🔗

Potential vaxx linked deaths in care homes are all over, if people take time to join the dots. At the very least the vaxx causes a drop in the recipients immune systems response for up to ten days after the jab (this was covered in detail by UK Column):

424414 ▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 7, #772 of 1640 🔗

I can’t believe that nobody in the care homes thinks this is down to the poison and accepting the covid narrative.

424450 ▶▶▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to Andrew K, 4, #773 of 1640 🔗

Every time this happened it’s dismissed as infection before jab .

424499 ▶▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 1, #774 of 1640 🔗

a news station read out “outbreaks” in care homes after vaccination, which are easy to find in local German newspapers, yesterday. I counted 25.
Still no-one joining the dots.

424631 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to B.F.Finlayson, #775 of 1640 🔗

A dodgey paella?
OOps wrong comment that was my theory on the deaths in Spanish care homes.

424398 ▶▶ Portnadler, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 5, #776 of 1640 🔗

Covid-19 does not give truce. The start of the vaccination campaign in nursing homes is not preventing a trail of deaths. In Los Barrios (Cádiz) they know it well. Unfortunately, the Nuestra Señora del Rosario residence yesterday added 46 deaths from Covid-19 among its users due to an outbreak registered in January, according to data provided by the Andalusian Health Service (SAS). At the beginning of the year, residents and workers were vaccinated with the first dose of Pfizer, although the inoculation of the second has had to be interrupted given the incidence of the pandemic.

The situation is so serious that the medicalization of the Junta de Andalucía of this private nursing home a few weeks ago has not been enough and the Ministry of Health has had to intervene in this center.

An inspection of the health services determined that it was a necessary measure “in view of the imminent risk to public health, and in particular for the users and workers of this center, as the current protocol for disinfection and isolation of positive cases cannot be guaranteed” .

This Wednesday, the situation remained extremely complicated in this residence. As explained by the provincial secretary of the FSP of the UGT, José Porras Naranjo, there were 28 residents and 12 workers, including the director, with Covid-19. Currently, this nursing home has 94 users, although its capacity is 145.

FSP de UGT ensures that the residence is not “fully” medicalized and that the disinfection is being carried out by the firefighters. This union representative reiterates his criticism of the management in this center, since he insisted that the outbreak was detected on January 12, that on January 18 the UGT warned that eight older people had died and that on the 28th 30 had already died. ” We are already at 46 deaths. Where is this medicalization and intervention? Where is the stabilization of the situation to which the territorial delegate referred a few days ago? In this residence they have acted late and badly.

Los Barrios is not an isolated case. In a nursing home in Sancti Petri, in Chiclana, 22 elderly people have already died from an outbreak that has also infected 79 residents and 24 workers in recent weeks.
Reopens non-essential activity to the Neighborhoods

Precisely this Wednesday, the Board has lifted the closure of non-essential activity in Los Barrios after two weeks, with the incidence rate standing at 799 cases per 100,000 inhabitants.

Very close, in Gibraltar, which this Wednesday only registered 13 new cases, the vaccination campaign continues to advance despite having already registered 79 deaths from Covid-19. Yesterday 13,071 people had been vaccinated with the first dose and 2,320 with the second, some of them Spanish who work in the social and health sector.

The Government of El Peñón, which reopened its non-essential activity on Monday except for the hotel industry and schools after a month of harsh restrictions, has also included young people between 16 and 18 years old in the priority groups for vaccination.

424430 ▶▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to Portnadler, 1, #777 of 1640 🔗

Thanks for that.

424409 ▶▶ John001, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 1, #778 of 1640 🔗

This ‘miracle’ was reported in the same province from vitamin D, why do they need urgent vaccination?

424550 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to John001, #779 of 1640 🔗

That really is the question that needs answered.

424536 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Les Tricoteuses, #780 of 1640 🔗

Covid-19 does not abate. The start of the vaccination campaign in nursing homes is not preventing a trail of deaths. In Los Barrios (Cádiz) they know it well. Unfortunately, the Nuestra Señora del Rosario residence yesterday added 46 deaths from Covid-19 among its users due to an outbreak registered in January, according to data provided by the Andalusian Health Service (SAS). At the beginning of the year, residents and workers were vaccinated with the first dose of Pfizer, although the inoculation of the second has had to be interrupted given the incidence of the pandemic.

And it then talks about another outbreak in the article

 Los Barrios is not an isolated case. In a nursing home in Sancti Petri, in Chiclana, 22 elderly people have already died from an outbreak that has also infected 79 residents and 24 workers in recent weeks

424542 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Freecumbria, #781 of 1640 🔗

At the end of the article it says

The Government of El Peñón [Gibraltar], which reopened its non-essential activity on Monday except for the hotel industry and schools after a month of harsh restrictions, has also included young people between 16 and 18 years old in the priority groups for vaccination

424376 pvenkman, replying to pvenkman, 17, #782 of 1640 🔗

As we are all Im this together perhaps low risk people who are furloughed should be trained to give people like supermarket workers or other essential staff a well earned break. Be good experience for when they get made redundant at the end of furlough

424464 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to pvenkman, 6, #783 of 1640 🔗

The supermarket workers have had to put up with so much, I was at my local supermarket last week, not enough staff on to manage the self service tills, one man had to do it single handed, we were all packed in like sardines with flimsy plastic barriers which made no difference as people were barging past each other, like in the old days. He had to work with no social distancing, in a crowded space, with lots of tills not working or going wrong, on what would be close to the minimum wage, but not many care about these people, they cant “stay home and stay safe” they have to work and earn a living, no Furlough or SEISS for them. There is real discrimination out there, locking down from home only applies to a select group of people, with all the extra money these places have made I with they would get some kind of bonus payment for all their hard work. I doubt most lockdowners would do his job, they wouldn’t last 5 minutes.

424393 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to awildgoose, 16, #785 of 1640 🔗

Crude, but effective. I predict the coercion techniques to be used here will be a little more sophisticated but morally will amount to the same thing.

424399 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Richard O, -21, #786 of 1640 🔗

You base this on what, Richard, examining chicken entrails ?

424400 ▶▶▶▶ Richard O, replying to JohnB, 19, #787 of 1640 🔗

No, listening carefully to what our political leaders are saying.

424445 ▶▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Richard O, 1, #788 of 1640 🔗

The most obvious is access to (what is left of) NHS services. Then getting an pensioner bus pass etc.

424965 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Richard O, #789 of 1640 🔗

You do realise they tend to tell porkies from time to time ? 🙂

425039 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to JohnB, -1, #790 of 1640 🔗

Wow, -20, a personal best !

I get more down-votes when I’m not even trying to be offensive. 🙁

424395 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to awildgoose, 9, #791 of 1640 🔗

Started vaccinating last month and surprise surprise case started going up!! The Cull of man is well and truly underway.

424459 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Andrew K, 2, #792 of 1640 🔗

There most certainly is a Logan’s Run type aspect to our current situation.

424387 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 20, #793 of 1640 🔗

Our ‘dear leader’ has just tweeted about moves to speed up the development of vaccines ready for the next disease. It makes it sound as though they are already working on the development of the next virus ready to keep us all spooked forever!

The focus on vaccines at the expense of developing effective treatments is scandalous. It is now quite clear that certain groups are at risk, obese, elderly, other health conditions and disability, there also seems to be some link between female physiology, oestrogen and long covid, all of these groups may well be better served by effective treatments rather than dodgy vaccines, which in some cases could finish them off. But vaccines are the chosen route for our control freak megalomaniac politicians. They act as if relying on treatments is somehow giving in when we have the chance to be in total control with our magic vaccines and yet again the public, in the main, seem to believe them.

424424 ▶▶ Mike, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #794 of 1640 🔗

Some good comments underneath that tweet. Not that it’ll make any difference

424404 p02099003, replying to p02099003, 22, #795 of 1640 🔗

This is my comment response to this story https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/reasons-coronavirus-infection-rate-leicester-5018833 :

The current rate for Leicester is 252.1 per 100000, for the county it ranges between 162 per 100000 and 215 per 100000. Corby is 317 per 100000. Converting these to percentages gives 0.25, 0.16, 0.22, 0.32 % (to 2 decimal places) respectively.
The specificity of the Lateral Flow Test is at best 99.68% for RT-PCR the specificity is between 96% and 99% depending on the number of cycles used.
Specificity is the percentage of negatives detected in a sample where you would expect 100% negatives.
If the specificity is less than 100% then the remainder will show as positive. Therefore, for a sample of 100000 being tested with LFT where all should be negative, the test will show a minimum of 99680 negatives with up to 320 (false) positives.
Therefore, these rates, even Corby’s, are compatible with the specificity of the test, all falling in the false positive range, and hence these ‘cases’ are a statistical anomaly and could be ignored.
It also means that a target of less than 1000 a day is impossible to achieve or prove through regular testing as there will always be a number of false positives, 1000 a day false positives may only require 300000 tests a day to be performed across the whole of England, basically only testing Leicester every day could throw up this number by itself.

424461 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to p02099003, #796 of 1640 🔗

Well said!

424540 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to p02099003, 1, #797 of 1640 🔗

Where I live it’s 7 per 100,000 as a 7 day rolling average. 0 deaths on the same metric.

They extended lockdown yesterday for another month when it was to end March 3rd.

Oh, and for schools. They are allowing them to reopen for primary 1 to 3 for a week and a half, then they go back to remote learning so other years can come into school again.

This is Northern-ireland. Welcome to the Thunderdome

424410 Alkanet, replying to Alkanet, 12, #798 of 1640 🔗

I say this as an anti-woke, Brexit voting ‘gammon’ BUT has anyone else noticed how the sheeple (some and many in my home city) are now empowered to be openly racist without censorship because they themselves are ‘following the rules’ and have a sense of superiority and so can lambast their unwelcome non UK born or second/third generation fellow citizens?

424434 ▶▶ Katabasis, replying to Alkanet, 20, #799 of 1640 🔗

They’ve only ever “cared” about ethnic minority populations in so far as they can use them as leverage over other white people through constant race-baiting and spurious accusations of “racism”.

424597 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Katabasis, -5, #800 of 1640 🔗

Christ, there’s some ignorant crap being written here today!

424769 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, #801 of 1640 🔗

So why don’t you stop?

424960 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Anti_socialist, #802 of 1640 🔗


Christ, there’s some ignorant crap being written here today!


So why don’t you stop?

And those, children, are what we call ‘oppo-sames’ …

424864 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to RickH, #803 of 1640 🔗

You really need to stop seeing yourself as a self appointed moderator on here who thinks they can determine what people write about it. Its a shame as often your comments are good and useful…you are a kind of ‘good cop/bad cop’. If you really cannot stomach comments by people who do not have socialist or communist views go and set up your own site for hard core leftists.

424442 ▶▶ HoMojo, replying to Alkanet, 16, #804 of 1640 🔗

I have. In fact this whole corona bulshit seems to have given carte blanche for people to vent all their nasty bigotry which has been festering untended for years. Noticed on Twitter various spontaneous campaigns to imprison all dissenters. I called someone out for supporting mandatory vaccines and all hell broke loose. Must be what it feels like to be ‘different’ (wrong race, wrong colour,, wrong language, wrong football team) and not being able to do anything about it. Being Jewish in the 1930s comes to mind. They must have felt the world had gone insane then. Well, maybe it’s always been insane. There are some very nasty, vindictive people out there, full of fear which manifests as hatred. We saw it during Brexit so don’t know why it keeps surprising me. Wonder if the Nazarene ever thought he was wasting his time.

424447 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to HoMojo, 9, #805 of 1640 🔗

I actually believe there are a large amount of the population who have no idea about the holocaust. In addition there are some who are aware but are too stupid to draw the parallels.

424488 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Cumbriacracked, 6, #806 of 1640 🔗

Seems to me everyone’s ignorant (particularly socialists) of what happened in Russia & the millions that died of starvation & oppression before the “ holocaust ” was even conceived!

424510 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #807 of 1640 🔗

Agreed. There is still a widespread ignorance of Soviet Russian atrocities. Maybe this is partly explained by the fact that we were allies during the last war so there was less inclination for allied nations to wish to be associated with these horrors. Nazi Germany was the common enemy and we have long liked to think that we saved the world from cruelty and oppression in 1945. What happened in Russia was something that was going on outside the theatre, so to speak.
If I’m being too simplistic, I’d be happy to be corrected by any modern historians on here.

424534 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Steve F, -1, #808 of 1640 🔗

The “ holocaust ” is like Covid-19, 10 of millions of people brutally repressed & kept locked up, most being Russian, Poles & gypsies etc, but died with Jewishness.

424958 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Steve F, 1, #809 of 1640 🔗

Nazi Germany was the common enemy and we have long liked to think that we saved the world from cruelty and oppression in 1945.

Weirdly, last weekend at a dinner party, someone laughed at my wife when she stated the Ruskies won WW2. Was not a good idea – wife’s dad fought at Stalingrad.

425048 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to JohnB, #810 of 1640 🔗

I would have fucked him up. Said: Go outside and bareknuckle fight me.

I am sick of these middle class liberal CUNTS.

425202 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #811 of 1640 🔗

My wife can take care of herself. 🙂 ‘Twas a lady who laughed, though. She wasn’t trying to be nasty, just so far at odds with what she’d been told all her life I guess.

424607 ▶▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Anti_socialist, -1, #812 of 1640 🔗

You really do come out with some astoundingly ignorant shite for someone who claims enlightenment. Have you ever read ‘Homage to Catalonia ‘, Animal Farm, 1984? Just for starters – all from a writer of the left.

424776 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, -2, #813 of 1640 🔗

What are you talking about now? Come on spit it out!

You get your facts from “science” fiction? Do you think animal farm was a text book? Jewish is a cultural/ethnic/religious grouping, nationality is where you were born, you think all Jews are German?

424640 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #814 of 1640 🔗

A family member was a “white Russian” (is that term allowed!) and managed to escape eventually. I can remember, even though I was a very young child, the stories of starvation and oppression following the revolution. They also followed all and any news about Russia (refused to call it the USSR) and said it should be a lesson to every country in the world.

424673 ▶▶▶▶▶ mj, replying to Anti_socialist, #815 of 1640 🔗

“Mr Jones” is a good film that covers this subject. Watched it last year

424496 ▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Cumbriacracked, 9, #816 of 1640 🔗

Only 80 years ago and how quickly this has been forgotten or ignored, as though somehow the people who did those things, or allowed them to happen, were different from us. “It couldn’t have happened here …” Well, it is becoming apparent that there is very little difference at all and it could.

424645 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Steve F, 2, #817 of 1640 🔗

It just angers me there are people in this country who, as I said before, cannot see the parallels.

424570 ▶▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #818 of 1640 🔗

You are so right. A few years ago I was fortunate enough to be invited to visit Auschwitz (we’d flown an education group there). A few days later I was chatting to my crew about the experience and one of them piped up that she’d never heard of it. Incredulously I said she must be joking. Nope, she’d never heard of Auschwitz nor the Holocaust. She was a typical snowflake @20 years old, more interested in her phone. She said it wasn’t her fault her school hadn’t taught it. I asked had she ever heard of the internet…..

424650 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Redundant Pilot, 2, #819 of 1640 🔗

Sadly not surprised, I mentioned in a comment I made earlier that the people who do not seem bothered by vaccine passports are the same people who live attached to their phone and apps. Unless they see anything on their social media feed it doesn’t exist. Just like many schools still take pupils to the war graves in France, every pupil should be made to visit one of the former camps.

The closest many of them come to knowing about any Russian history is the disney film Anastasia!

424702 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Cumbriacracked, 1, #820 of 1640 🔗

So true. I came away that day saying that every human on the planet should be made to visit, just to see what humans do to each other. Sadly it seems that is now not necessary, we see the beginnings of this every day on the street….

424949 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Cumbriacracked, #821 of 1640 🔗

… every pupil should be made to …

To teach them what fascism is ?

424484 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to HoMojo, 5, #822 of 1640 🔗

I agree with all of what you say but there are far more than “a few nasty, vindictive people out there.” I must admit to never having had much belief in the essential goodness or innate intelligence of humanity but, nevertheless, I have been shocked by how swiftly and easily a vast number and variety of ordinary, “decent” people have become homogenised into a fearful, spiteful mass with the potential to be turned into a dangerous mob. Fear is the key with which unscrupulous leaders can unlock some very unpleasant human characteristics.

424491 ▶▶▶▶ HoMojo, replying to Steve F, 4, #823 of 1640 🔗

Think you might have misread that Steve. Didn’t say ‘few’, said ‘very’. Because I agree with you, there’s far more than a few. Nazi Germany couldn’t have done what it did to dissenters without collaborators, which were a majority.

424538 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to HoMojo, 1, #824 of 1640 🔗

Fair enough but you said “some very nasty, vindictive people…” which I read as “few.” Doesn’t matter much; we are in agreement, that’s the main thing. Hard not to be, given the evidence all around us.

424624 ▶▶▶▶ Alkanet, replying to Steve F, 2, #825 of 1640 🔗

And the really sad part is when these people turn out to be friends and relatives who one never previously suspected of being so secretly unintelligent and/or nasty.

424495 ▶▶▶ Tiberius, replying to HoMojo, 4, #826 of 1640 🔗

Well the Nazrene makes us an offer, rather than do some of a more totalitarian tendency.

A friend of the family made a Facebook post today, proposing without irony that these tests involving injecting volunteers with covid 19 should be forced on to a couple of violent criminals. This friend is a nurse (or more exactly a nurse who has recently been pensioned off through illness).

As George Benson sang, “you can never know what’s living in someone else’s mind…”

First they came for the scrotes…

424472 ▶▶ mj, replying to Alkanet, 2, #827 of 1640 🔗

the labour party under Blair adopted an open door policy because they realised that immigrant communities would tend to vote labour or else could be manipulated by “community leaders” to vote labour or hand over their postal votes

424479 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to mj, 6, #828 of 1640 🔗

Identity politics is about destroying identity, i.e. Christian Conservative values & anyone who holds them, notably nuclear family, community, national pride, patriotism etc to make way for globalist technocracy.

424587 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Anti_socialist, -2, #829 of 1640 🔗

Oh please ease up on this pathetic self-pity that seems to come packaged with certain individuals’ right-wing beliefs. It’s not a pretty sight, if a common disease.

As to ‘Christian Conservative values’ – are these the ones held by senior clergy that close churches at the bursting of a paper bag? Or is God’s representative of the oil industry on earth, by definition a ‘lefty’.

424781 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, -2, #830 of 1640 🔗

What a troll.

424867 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Anti_socialist, -1, #831 of 1640 🔗

He’s on good form today lol…perhaps he has had his vaccine this morning?

424419 Barbara Baker, 10, #832 of 1640 🔗
424432 Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), replying to Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), 11, #833 of 1640 🔗

Health secretary Matt Hancock acted unlawfully by failing to publish details of coronavirus contracts in a timely way, a High Court judge has ruled.


424435 ▶▶ Ned of the Hills, replying to Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), 1, #834 of 1640 🔗

But will his pay be docked?

424441 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Ned of the Hills, 7, #835 of 1640 🔗

More importantly in “normal” times the Labour party would be calling for his head but they won’t. He will not be sacked he will just carry on wielding his power destroying peoples lives.

Good news, but it would be better if we could stop all the testing, get rid of covid marshals etc. However I don’t think the government will pay a blind bit of notice.

424470 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), #837 of 1640 🔗

Excellent news

Is the Judge a ‘Hanging Judge’?

424527 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), #839 of 1640 🔗

So what now?

424436 Lindy, replying to Lindy, 14, #840 of 1640 🔗

Just popped up my FB timeline, I think that is a definite no.

No need for 50:50 or phone a friend

424448 ▶▶ Paul, replying to Lindy, 17, #841 of 1640 🔗

The puerile infantilisation of the population continues at full pace.

424453 ▶▶▶ John Galt, replying to Paul, 9, #842 of 1640 🔗

Haha, great comment. I wonder if they’ll get a pat on the head and a lollipop too.

424454 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Paul, 7, #843 of 1640 🔗

These people deserve their suffering but they’re dragging us to hell with them.

424524 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Paul, 1, #844 of 1640 🔗

There would be no need for a Nanny state if people weren’t so childish and infantile.

424533 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Paul, 2, #845 of 1640 🔗

The population is already fairly infantile (see what gets the biggest TV viewing figures) so this sort of thing is talored to their tastes.

424452 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Lindy, 3, #846 of 1640 🔗

They are stopping at nothing to manipulate you to get the untested covid jab (can’t call it a vaccine as it is not.

However kudos to the government – they have a great PsyOps / propaganda strategy and obviously are paying a PR company lots of your money (taxpayers money) to mess up of what is left of this country

Wonder however if this will end as badly as Bell Pottinger ?

A year after Bell Pottinger’s demise, its toxic legac…

Deal that undid Bell Pottinger: inside story of the South …

I used to work at Bell Pottinger – so I can tell you why …

424466 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Lindy, #847 of 1640 🔗

vax pride

424468 ▶▶ mj, replying to Lindy, 5, #848 of 1640 🔗

Ive had my covid vaccination

424606 ▶▶ HelzBelz, replying to Lindy, 2, #849 of 1640 🔗

If I see that on any of my FB ‘friends’ profile they will be unfriended immediately!

424768 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to Lindy, 1, #850 of 1640 🔗

I won’t get my Covid vaccine, because it’s not a vaccine.

424437 Cumbriacracked, replying to Cumbriacracked, 12, #851 of 1640 🔗

I never had much hope for the CRG/Mark Harper in getting the country back to normal but at least he was not totally 100% with the narrative, however reading his comments about pubs remaining closed, it is very clear he is 100% pro vaccine and I would guess vaccine passport. He is regurgitating the “it discriminates against the young as they will not have their vaccines until last”. So the CRG offer no hope at all. I am not surprised but to be honest I am not sure what the CRG is aiming to do other than prop up the PM’s regime.

I still cling on to the 1922 committee, they tend to look to the future, even if it is only the future of the Conservative party, they can bring about a change of leader and therefore a change of direction.

424525 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #852 of 1640 🔗

And there they are with assumption that everyone will take their vaccine when offered.

424451 Jo Starlin, replying to Jo Starlin, 47, #853 of 1640 🔗

Just sent the following to Sir Charles Walker, just to show my support:

Dear Sir Charles,

While not a constituent of yours, I would just like to thank you for continuing to be a voice of sanity, reason and compassion in the midst of the avalanche of catastrophic, poisonous insanity that has overwhelmed this country. Please don’t give up, you are a beacon of hope along with some of your colleagues such as Sir Desmond Swayne. I urge you to exert whatever pressure you possibly can on the Prime Minister to turn away from this utter madness, which is making so many lives a living hell.

424462 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Jo Starlin, 10, #854 of 1640 🔗

It really pisses me off people call de-Pfeffel a libertarian, a man who bought water canons when he was London mayor!

I’d suggest when writing in thanks to MPs like Swayne etc keep it very short, ‘good job keep it up’ etc otherwise they’re unlikely to read it especially if not your own MP.

424478 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Anti_socialist, 8, #855 of 1640 🔗

maybe Boris just wants to do what he wants to do. That makes him a libertarian when he isn’t in charge and an authoritarian when he is

424532 ▶▶ Steve F, replying to Jo Starlin, 5, #856 of 1640 🔗

That sounds very much like the last email I sent him. I think he is, by nature, quite a reserved and modest man so I imagine he is feeling somewhat overwhelmed by the size of his inbox and voices of support he is hearing from all around the country. Good. If he is brave enough to speak out against the tyranny, he deserves all the support we can give him (and Desmond Swayne too, of course). It would be something of a triumph if this encouraged other, more timid, MPs to stiffen their backbone and get themselves up on the barricades.

424456 alw, replying to alw, 39, #857 of 1640 🔗

Have just taken the grandson to the park. Place absolutely heaving with children and adults mixing which is how it should be. And they still persist with keeping schools closed. Not a mask in sight. Talking to a mother who believes all of this should come to an end right now because of the damage being done. Her husband owns a construction business and work has continued for them. All staff mixing and not a mask on site except for those required under building regulations. The people are deciding and won’t be taking any notice of Boris’s pronouncements on Monday.

424494 ▶▶ kenadams, replying to alw, 8, #858 of 1640 🔗

I’ve noticed how busy playgrounds are too. I’m getting angry though that people can’t seem to join the dots between enjoying being there because its busy and the need to resist lockdown in order for us to get this back into our lives in general.

424530 ▶▶ Mike, replying to alw, 8, #859 of 1640 🔗

Same here. Been to the park a couple of times now and plenty of people ‘picnicking’ with their cups of coffee and socialising. Brilliant to see!

424642 ▶▶ Edward, replying to alw, 2, #860 of 1640 🔗

I saw an encouraging sign this morning, a group of about 12 people cycling along the riverside path, a mixture of adults and children, could have been about 3 family groups. Presumably took a bit of organising and they could in theory have been observing guidance on distancing, but I expect they weren’t too bothered.

424457 isobar, replying to isobar, 21, #861 of 1640 🔗

‘Experts believe UK will be ‘a lot more normal’ by May even if Boris Johnson adopts a cautious roadmap for easing rules as ministers admit they cannot guarantee this will be the last lockdown and PM prepares for crunch weekend to finalise blueprint’

And who is one of the experts? You guessed it, our very own Professor Ferguturd.

Excuse me while I find my sick bucket!

424463 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to isobar, 1, #862 of 1640 🔗

depends what they define as “normal”

424523 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to crimsonpirate, 6, #863 of 1640 🔗

Exactly. In my county the stay-at-home order was lifted this week and everything can open again, with the usual capacity restrictions. Given that there is still a mask mandate, I continue to be a prisoner in my own home so the loosening of these restrictions doesn’t improve my life in the slightest. I can now have 10 people around to my house. Yeah! Except that I don’t know 10 sane people who would take the “risk.” I did break the law and pop into Toronto (still under “state of emergency”) to visit my parents and get my hair cut and coloured (like minded hairdresser who came to the house). I find work-arounds where I can, but nothing is remotely normal.

424467 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to isobar, 1, #864 of 1640 🔗

Excuse me while I find a stick

424483 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 4, #865 of 1640 🔗

A lot more normal doesn’t include yet more local lockdowns all summer, in my book.

424486 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to isobar, 3, #866 of 1640 🔗

“finalise blueprint”

That blueprint will be changed again, and we all know it.

424517 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to isobar, 3, #867 of 1640 🔗

Proof that democracy is finished, no one voted for him. Johnson sounds like a delegator extrordinaire

424656 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to isobar, #868 of 1640 🔗

We don’t need to poxy BLUEPRINT !

424471 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 7, #869 of 1640 🔗

The Insanity of the PCR Testing Saga
For several months, experts have highlighted the true cause behind the COVID-19 pandemic, namely the incorrect use of PCR tests set at a ridiculously high cycle count (CT), which falsely labels healthy people as “COVID-19 cases.” In reality, the PCR test is not a proper diagnostic test, although it has been promoted as such.

An important question that demands an answer is whether the experts at our federal health agencies and the World Health Organization were really too ignorant to understand the implications of using this test at excessive CT, or whether it was done on purpose to create the illusion of a dangerous, out-of-control pandemic.

According to an April 2020 study, a CT of 17 must be used to obtain 100% confirmed real positives. Above 17 cycles, accuracy drops dramatically. At 33 cycles, the false positive rate is 80%. Beyond 34 cycles, the false positive rate reaches 100%


424520 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Victoria, 9, #870 of 1640 🔗

They knew it. And many were open about it. They didn’t care. So their argument would have been that it was OK to lockdown 50 people to ensure you got the 1 that had the virus (asymptomatic or not).

This is a pandemic don’t you know. Stop being selfish.

When, from my point of view, from the start, I believed that if you are telling me I am sick, or my business has to close as its a danger to others. Prove it. It’s about individual freedom. Putting food on the table is an essential activity. So you have this test? And I researched it and it looks like a dart board hammer approach to finding your infected. More wrong than right.

But they don’t care. Their job is to find the virus and all the power is with them. The politicians have thrown individual rights out the window. The courts rolled over. We’ve been betrayed.

424473 kenadams, replying to kenadams, 54, #871 of 1640 🔗

I’ve been thinking of reasons to be positive again today. One epiphany came to me a week or so ago. I’ve been wasting too much time and energy and getting too upset about what many of my friends think. If they are full-on pro the crime against humanity, then, to put it bluntly, why should I care? I’ll just have to concentrate on the (admittedly small) number of my friends who’ve remained sane. You can’t remain friends with everyone for ever.

This change in attitude is actually a huge weight off my mind.

424487 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to kenadams, 11, #872 of 1640 🔗

I have had a break from my friend, more for her benefit I thought, as she does not want to listen to my criticism.
Now I notice it has done me good, too.

424518 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to kenadams, 24, #873 of 1640 🔗

Can’t take credit for it, but in one of Tom Woods’ latest emails he discussed the issue of whether you can remain friends with a lockdown zealot. He basically said, “Would you be friend with someone who wanted to take your business away from you, keep your kids miserable and out of school for a year, remove access to everything that makes life worth living, and has co-opted a full year of your life?” It’s hard to answer yes when it’s put in these terms.

424537 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 5, #874 of 1640 🔗

I think in most cases, the better analogy is remaining friends with an alcoholic, a drug addict, somebody who persists in remaining in an abusive relationship – once a person has set themselves on the path to self-destruction, it’s very difficult to follow them there – even if they don’t actually manage to drag you down with them, the relationship just becomes very boring and unrewarding, and there are better things you could be doing with your time

424541 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to JaneHarry, 5, #875 of 1640 🔗

I think the key difference is that people have been subjected to an unprecedented level of brainwashing – I think in most people’s book that counts as mitigation

424552 ▶▶▶▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Julian, 5, #876 of 1640 🔗

It didn’t count for the followers of the Nazi’s and their eugenic policies – I don’t see why it should be an excuse for the lockdowners. they are adults – ‘following orders’ is not a defence.

424566 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to redbirdpete, 5, #877 of 1640 🔗

Isn’t there a distinction to be made between acquiescence and active collaboration/support? I mean, a lot of Germans went along with the Nazis for various reasons and they didn’t all end up in prison.

Speaking personally there are a few people with whom I have attempted to argue at length, who are well educated, intelligent, comfortably off, politically aware (or so I thought), who trust(ed) me and well able to process information who refuse to engage. I find it hard to want to spend time with or have anything to do with them, but others I have more sympathy with.

Time will tell how I will feel about it all – it’s going to leave a scar but can it be healthy to be at war forever more with more or less everyone?

424568 ▶▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Julian, 1, #878 of 1640 🔗

Of course, you’re right. There’s a bit too much pointless virtue signalling appearing here, which is just as bad as any other. I understand the feel-good factor – but count yourself lucky you’re not susceptible to this particular brain storm and have some immunity.

424599 ▶▶▶▶▶ HelzBelz, replying to Julian, 6, #879 of 1640 🔗

But would anyone want to remain friends with people that are so stupid and incurious that they let themselves be brainwashed instead of doing their own research, as we have all done?

It may be harsh on these poor deluded simpletons, but my answer is an absolute, definite non!

424619 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to HelzBelz, 4, #880 of 1640 🔗

Thing is I have a good friend who was a political idiot before and is still a political idiot now. I could have guessed he would swallow the narrative hook, line and sinker before I found out he had. I’m not going to hold it against him I don’t see the point.

424553 ▶▶ Annie, replying to kenadams, 11, #881 of 1640 🔗

You’re right.
I’ve made scores if new friends on this site. Will be meeting a lot of you soon – at kh’s for choice! Or cone and have a sceptic rave in my Welsh barn!

424595 ▶▶▶ kenadams, replying to Annie, 2, #882 of 1640 🔗

That’s a good point. I live near enough Saffron Walden to make the journey for a LS meet-up!

424562 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to kenadams, 5, #883 of 1640 🔗

Although they are not my close friends, I am friendly with two separate groups of Mums who I met when pregnant with my first born at various classes. We all often meet up with our children in playparks. Most of them aren’t sceptical like me and I prefer to avoid the vaccine/lockdown talk, although most of us agree how difficult it is. However there are one or two lockdown chin wobblers which is almost unbearable and I have avoided seeing them lately. However on the flipside, its good for my children to hang out with other kids their age because the social interaction is vital for their development (they are almost 3 and 2).

424480 Rsimmo, replying to Rsimmo, 14, #884 of 1640 🔗

Re testing school children for COVID 19. There is another way, do not do it. Putting a stick up a child’s nose and down their throat and twiddling it around is tantamount to child abuse, and this is to be done twice a week. Parents instinctively know when their child is unwell and keep them at home, likewise teachers who know the child and will send them home if the are showing symptoms of illness.
I am incensed at children being abused this way and for what?!!!!

424586 ▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to Rsimmo, 2, #885 of 1640 🔗

And if a kid doesn’t like having a stick up their nose or shoved down the back of their throat, the parents are going to have one hell of a game to take the swabs.

What do you do, have your child kicking and screaming and to be physically restrained to take the “test”, or take it yourself to avoid the hassle?

424596 ▶▶▶ HelzBelz, replying to Smelly Melly, 5, #886 of 1640 🔗

Open test, stick it in a glass of water and return ‘sample’. Job done!

424490 kenadams, replying to kenadams, 6, #887 of 1640 🔗

Any American’s on here? Is Florida still freeish? Has Biden managed to ruin it? Also, S Dakota? I’d prefer Florida for both climate and cultural reasons! My wife’s American passport might still come in useful if a couple of red states hold out against Biden…

424514 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to kenadams, 12, #888 of 1640 🔗

I’m not American but I listen to Tom Woods’ podcasts and get his daily emails. He’s a Florida resident and what he says is that the state is open and there are no restrictions. He has been to 3 plays (with audiences!) and a standup comedy show. The restaurants and bars are open and people are packed together as there are no capacity restrictions. However, particular counties have mask mandates but the governor ruled that they are not enforceable. Tom says there are people in masks everywhere. There was a recent hit piece on a grocery store in Naples where nobody was wearing a mask (the owner is very pro-face) and Tom says this is unusual. So, from what he says Florida is open for business, kids are in school, and there is no enforceable mask mandate even though people are still voluntarily wearing them or abiding by their county mandate despite the fact it’s essentially voluntary. Sounds like heaven to me!

424644 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #889 of 1640 🔗

Would they let us in do you think?

424655 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Fiona Walker, 2, #890 of 1640 🔗

They’re pretty welcoming! I’m hoping that at some point I can at least drive down there for a vacation. Our borders are closed to all but essential car traffic. Maybe next winter…

424549 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to kenadams, 7, #891 of 1640 🔗

From what I’ve read, including Tom Woods’ emails as mentioned by Lisa below, Governor deSantis has already told Biden to “do one”. And will continue to do so.

Further north, it seems that Andrew Cuomo is coming under pressure for his total mismanagement, particularly nursing homes

424492 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 4, #892 of 1640 🔗
There's never been a better time to...


424501 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Victoria, 14, #893 of 1640 🔗

Our greatest protection against a wide range of pathogens including SARS-Cov-2, which causes covid-19, is an effective, robust and resilient immune system.


Vitamin C – 5 g of ascorbic acid (powder) in 1.5 litres of water, drunk through the day
Vitamin D – 100 mcg (4,000 IU) or more of vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) daily
Zinc (zinc citrate; zinc picolinate; zinc acetate) – 30-50 mg per day. Take away from meals containing grains

Quercetin – 500 mg per day between meals
Beta-glucans – take 500 mg daily on an empty stomach in the morning

Salt pipe (do a patch test first to check you’re not allergic to iodine) – put a couple of drops of Lugol’s iodine (5-15%) into the mouthpiece of the pipe. Shake, then sniff 10-15 times. Repeat every two hours at the first signs of infection ( watch video with Dr Sarah Myhill)
USB rechargeable nebuliser – can be used for iodine (as above) or saline (obtained from your pharmacy). If using iodine mix with a small amount of filtered water

Food is medicine. Prioritise your nutrition by eating natural, nutrient dense, colourful (6 colours a day), unprocessed (organic where possible) wholefoods to nourish and support your body particularly during stressful periods.

Deep, restful sleep is essential for strengthening the immune system, allowing for balanced and effective immune function
Aim for 7-8 hours a night, avoiding digital devices for at least an hour before bed

Chronic stress reduces the immune system’s ability to fight off viruses and puts you at greater risk of becoming ill.

  • Have some fun and laugh a lot!
  • Learn to say no when you need to
  • Take a digital detox
  • Our breath is powerful, search for apps offering deep, mindful breathing practices Create a playlist of music in the 528 Hz healing range
  • Prioritise carving out some ‘me’ time in your week

anhinternational.org – search ‘stress’

Regular movement or exercise (more than 1 hour per day, avoiding long periods of sitting) plays an important role in keeping your immune system healthy. Move your body with some physical activity daily – but make sure it’s something you enjoy.

424504 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Victoria, 16, #894 of 1640 🔗

Two pints of lager and a packet of crisps please

424507 ▶▶▶▶ mj, replying to Cecil B, 5, #895 of 1640 🔗

oi – you pushing in????
Two pints of lager and a packet of crisps, please.
I’ve been here half hour
And I’m getting very thirsty!

424508 ▶▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Victoria, 1, #896 of 1640 🔗

Is it possible to quantify what contribution sunlight makes to our vitamin D levels? I know the UV levels are better in the summertime but does winter sunshine have some effect? I might be outside working for several hours in the winter sunshine, does this have any effect?

424519 ▶▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Steve Martindale, #897 of 1640 🔗

Winter sun no effect

424551 ▶▶▶▶▶ John001, replying to Victoria, 7, #898 of 1640 🔗

If you want to form 4,000 IU per day and you’re in normal clothing, we only get ‘real’ sun from about mid May to late July … or August if it’s hot and you’re in swimwear or shorts.

Website here to work out what you can make from sun on the skin


Obviously avoid sunscreen too. The skin cancer scare began 40 yrs ago since which vitamin D deficiency seems to have got worse again.

My opinion of the medical profession is almost unprintable. Its past advice was clearly s***

Eat fewer eggs – no, eggs are good.
Stop eating saturated fat – no, France and Switzerland eat vast amounts of dairy produce and have very good health
You get enough vitamin D from food and sunshine – no you don’t
Get your cholesterol down – no, there’s actually a link between higher total cholesterol and a lower risk of death.

424621 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to John001, 6, #899 of 1640 🔗

High carb, fat-free diets have been debunked.

They are cause of the obesity and diabetes crises.

424623 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to awildgoose, 4, #900 of 1640 🔗

Indeed. Sadly that is what the NHS tells you to eat – no wonder so many people in the UK are obese

424641 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to John001, 2, #901 of 1640 🔗

It took me a couple of read-throughs, but you are actually saying that eggs, dairy and saturated fat are good aren’t you. Phew, a bit worried there! Cholesterol has had such an unfair press, we use it for repair and its presence being blamed for disease is like assuming that fire engines start fires because, well, they are always around when there’s a conflagration.

424718 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Hellonearth, replying to John001, 1, #902 of 1640 🔗

I had a stroke over 2 years ago. The only reason they could think it happened was because my ‘bad’ cholesterol was slightly high. I was given statins and have been so conflicted on if to take them as I have read varying views. It reminds me of the crap going on now, where we different scientists saying different things. When you have been through such a scary event it is really hard to know what to do for the best.

424629 ▶▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Steve Martindale, #903 of 1640 🔗

In the UK, no benefit from sunlight October to end March, a good rule of thumb is that if your shadow is longer than you are, you are getting no vit D from the sun. When it does shine, if you are like me a freckle, pale person, 15 minutes arms exposed between 11 and 3 is all you need. Those lucky enough to be darker will need more.

424908 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Fiona Walker, #904 of 1640 🔗

a good rule of thumb is that if your shadow is longer than you are, you are getting no vit D from the sun.

or it’s close to sunrise/sunset. 🙂 Suspect you mean shadow at noon ?

424763 ▶▶▶▶ Puddleglum, replying to Steve Martindale, #905 of 1640 🔗

We can only synthesise vitamin D between roughly Easter and October in this country.

424516 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Victoria, #906 of 1640 🔗

I was mechanically dunced by the our education system so I don’t feel qualified to give an opinion

424548 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Cecil B, 3, #907 of 1640 🔗

If there’s one thing your education obviously didn’t do, Cecil, it was turn you into a dunce!

424498 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 4, #908 of 1640 🔗

If you want a giggle visit the comments section on this


424506 ▶▶ mj, replying to Cecil B, 6, #909 of 1640 🔗

what a load of morons. Pity they didnt take the same view about foreign aid .
Will be interesting when the vaccine proves to cause more problems than it solves whether Johnson is called a murderer – killing all these people in the third world

424531 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Cecil B, 8, #910 of 1640 🔗

I go into anaphylactic shock if I consume BBC.

424502 mj, replying to mj, 18, #911 of 1640 🔗

in the car and heard a bit of vanessa Feltz. Re the 1.5million at risk people. she was talking to a woman who had been told she was at risk because a few years ago she had diabetes associated with being pregnant and should isolate. She has spent the last year at work as a store manager .!!! So she was going to think about it. Feltz was following the BBC line “oh you must do what you are told”.
What a farce

424705 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to mj, 1, #912 of 1640 🔗

If Feltz was told by government or a doctor to take bath in pig shit and drink a cocktail of milk gone sour and old car oil, would she Do as your told?

424877 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Silke David, 1, #913 of 1640 🔗

Not sure. But I’d probably sign up for the pay-to-view of it. 🙂

424535 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Anti_socialist, 16, #915 of 1640 🔗

if you’re just somebody who doesn’t believe in the vaccine or doesn’t want the vaccine or doesn’t believe the vaccine will help you, then you would not be protected. Your own beliefs would not be a protected characteristic, in that sense. And it goes on to say, this horrific HR advice, that “anti-vaxxers” – so it starts off with the premise that if you refuse to have a government injectable, you are by nature an anti-vaxxer. That isn’t true of a lot of people I know who don’t want the covid vaccine. “Antivaxxers subscribing to conspiracy theories are unlikely to be protected because they have to show that their beliefs are worthy of respect in a democratic society .”

Katie Hopkins still pointing out the hard truths.

424526 isobar, 23, #916 of 1640 🔗

Am picking up rumours that the BBC have signed up the renowned ‘Covid celebrity’ Professor Ferguturd on a mega million pound contract to host a new prime time show ‘Strictly Come Modelling’. Judging panel will be Bozo, Wancock, Twitty and Unbalanced. Audience voting will be limited to lockdown zealots and maskubators. You heard it here first.

424529 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #917 of 1640 🔗

JBH on the ear-holes clashes with Tony Blair Institute spokesman twat over lockdown | 19-Feb-21
& i wish talk radio would fix the audio glitches, its really annoying & unprofessional for a RADIO station.

424795 ▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #918 of 1640 🔗

Speechless. Australia is the best counter argument they’ve got – yes, let’s look at how that’s going shall we? Let’s see how they manage to run businesses over the next year or so when they can be slammed closed at a moments notice, rinse and repeat. And, you know, winter coming and all that. Julia ate him for breakfast, a very light snack.

425062 ▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Fear is Finite, #919 of 1640 🔗

It was a great interview. JHB was polite to him while she reeled him in and then administered killer blows of rational argument while he floundered around. He’s probably begging for mercy at the foot of his master right now.

424555 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 68, #920 of 1640 🔗

Serious Rebellion in France.
Five of the Scientific Government Advisory Council ( like SAGE) have called on the government to stop lockdowns and move to Great Barrington solution.
Veran , Health Minister, is trying to pour cold water on it, but its now out there, serious break in the ranks.

424557 ▶▶ isobar, replying to peyrole, 19, #921 of 1640 🔗

Very encouraging!

424613 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to peyrole, 8, #922 of 1640 🔗

Very, very nice. Suneptra Gupta (for one) should be demanding a grovelling apology from Wanksock, Pfeffel et al before she deigns to consider the government’s offer for help. Of course, due to the fragile egos involved, this will never happen so we all have to remain in purgatory forever. Thems the breaks.

424651 ▶▶ Annie, replying to peyrole, 8, #923 of 1640 🔗

Vive la France, vive la révolte, vivent les révoltés!

424907 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Annie, 2, #924 of 1640 🔗

Mon aéroglisseur est plein d’anguilles!!

424558 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 39, #925 of 1640 🔗

Pleasant walk in the sun yesterday

(A true story, this did happen)

By chance met some friends who I hadn’t seen for a long time. Top people. Husband and wife team

The conversation turned to the ‘vaccine’

They proudly announced that they had been jabbed, and had I had mine

I told them I was in the 7th cohort and it wouldn’t be available to me until May

Oh no, they said just ring up and you can get it straight away as they reeled off a long list of people in their 50’s who had been jabbed

I said no I couldn’t do that as they were still vaccinating the over 70′ and in all conscience I couldn’t take away an over 70’s vaccine

He actually said to me “You don’t have to be brave about this”

I asked why there was so much spare vaccine about

They looked dumbfound. A long silence. They looked at each other again. Still silence

Then wifey announced “Because of the snow. The over 70’s can’t get to the centres because of the snow”

Hubby said ‘Yes because of the snow”

Went home to Mrs Cecil and related the story

Mrs Cecil gave me one of her why did I marry you looks before pointing out that we hadn’t had any snow

424574 ▶▶ Steeve, replying to Cecil B, 5, #926 of 1640 🔗

Great story – They will be down to the 20 – 30 yr olds soon.

424612 ▶▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Steeve, 3, #927 of 1640 🔗

Kids not long after that.

424620 ▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Cecil B, 6, #928 of 1640 🔗

In the Midlands it seems that people in their 40s with no serious health issues are being called up. They keep messaging me about vaccine clinic availability – today begging me to visit on Tuesday. I’m looking forward to them trying to harass me on the phone, so I can tell them where to stick it.
So far, everyone I know who has had the Oxford vaccine has been ill – mostly with flu symptoms. Also one lost consciousness and made a mess of their face on the floor, one had a “mini-stroke” within 24 hours (not sure how a stroke can be “mini”) and one died within a week. The one person I know who had Pfizer had no symptoms (in her 80s).
Meanwhile, people I know who definitely had Covid-19 – two, in Feb last year.

424735 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to TheBluePill, 1, #929 of 1640 🔗

not sure how a stroke can be “mini”

It is a real thing, TBP; it’s called a Transient ischemic attack . My wife has had a couple in the past. Fortunately, in her case, she made a full recovery. 🙂

424648 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Cecil B, 1, #930 of 1640 🔗

It’s enough to make a 😺 .

424561 Steeve, replying to Steeve, 4, #931 of 1640 🔗

I take it that Kate and Luc got closed down. Any updates?

424609 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Steeve, 1, #932 of 1640 🔗

I was in the area so popped there on Monday. Shutters down and a closure notice taped to the front.

424822 ▶▶▶ Steeve, replying to Tom Blackburn, #933 of 1640 🔗

I was hoping it would be the start of something but thought this would be the outcome. The great reopening?

424563 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 15, #935 of 1640 🔗

Covid so called vaccines are not vaccines. A vaccine is made from an attenuated form of the causative agent: in this case the novel coronavirus. This has not been done. The developers of the so called vaccines used the genetic code China provided, not the virus. Why is this?

424610 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Steve Hayes, 3, #936 of 1640 🔗

Steve can you provide a link to the genetic code from China. I don’t dispute what you say but I want to share the info. Thanks

425297 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Bella Donna, #937 of 1640 🔗


  • On 12 January 2020, China shared the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus
424565 Ricky1, replying to Ricky1, 28, #938 of 1640 🔗

My university graduation in July has been cancelled. Tells you a lot about how optimistic summer is looking.

The university says it’s not all bad though! Theyll be doing online events as a substitute instead!! Yay! How good for them, not having to organise and pay for a grad ceremony.

I just feel numb. Everything is pointless.

424572 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Ricky1, 18, #939 of 1640 🔗

It’s not pointless – at least you see how wrong all this is. There’s a chance for you because you see it.

Things will improve – there is hope.

Hold on.

424577 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Ricky1, 13, #940 of 1640 🔗

Hang on in there, already there are signs that opposition are rising, just check some of the best rated comments on recent DM articles. Eventually the dam of malfeasance and misinformation will break and then there will be a flood of retribution.

424579 ▶▶ Dame Lynet, replying to Ricky1, 7, #941 of 1640 🔗

So sorry, Ricky1.

I hope by the time July comes along you will have found a special way to mark it with likeminded peers; maybe an even better way than the university organised ones (which can be a touch conveyor-belt).

424588 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Ricky1, 2, #942 of 1640 🔗

on the upside, you have got longer to look back and laugh than those of us who are older

424635 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Ricky1, 5, #943 of 1640 🔗

Get in touch with your fellow students and organise your own. At least they have given you plenty of notice – use that time to think up something really good.

424646 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ricky1, 7, #944 of 1640 🔗

You’re young.You’re not a zombie.Be strong, for your own sake and that of your generation. You will live to trample on the evil beasts who are doing this to you.

424658 ▶▶ Alkanet, replying to Ricky1, 5, #945 of 1640 🔗

In a few years time you’ll realise that missing it was no big deal (these ceremonies are far too long and boring and the sight of hordes of fawning parents is stomach churning) I suggest you get a proper photographer to do you a souvenir portrait in all the gear holding a cardboard tube and know that you earned your degree and have a memento. I missed my first degree shindig due to a clerical cock up and only went for my Master’s one as my mother demanded a photograph, but in return I insisted on going alone (and it was a very long and boring day with uninspiring photographs obtained at great £).

424860 ▶▶ gina, replying to Ricky1, #946 of 1640 🔗

Very sorry to read this. An important right of passage withheld – not just for you but for those who love you and have supported you through your studies.
I feel sure if you think about the important elements of a graduation ceremony you will find a meaningful way to mark your achievement with kith and kin when the time comes.
Wishing you well…

424919 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Ricky1, #947 of 1640 🔗

I always thought that graduation balls were a nasty American import into the UK, people never really had them until the end of the Eighties. Personally I would not be into them, all that dressing up like a twat, limousine hire, looks crap to me.

Lucky I have never graduated from anything really 🙂

424569 this is my username, replying to this is my username, 10, #948 of 1640 🔗

One thing which has concerned me for some time is the phrase “a new social contract” – this has come up again and again with WEF and others. I strongly suspect that the new social contract they have in mind involves taking the Mark of the beast (i.e. vaccines and the passport which goes with them). They are moving very fast with all this.

424604 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to this is my username, 4, #949 of 1640 🔗

They want it done and dusted before the masses wake up, hence the speed.

424726 ▶▶ Liberty, replying to this is my username, 1, #950 of 1640 🔗

Although I believe the mark of the beast is coming and that the passports are taking us ever closer there, I don’t believe they are the mark, because Biblically speaking, there is no great man in global power yet (who will will the Antichrist), no one world government and no cashless system. This is a softening up process, so that when the mark is here people will happily take it and be happy for those not taking it to be ‘dealt’ with. Many Christians believe that there will be a rapture first (which will probably be explained as alien abduction).

424571 Maverick, replying to Maverick, 16, #951 of 1640 🔗

Interesting article in the Guardian:

“The health secretary, Matt Hancock , acted unlawfully by failing to publish multibillion-pound Covid-19 government contracts within the 30-day period required by law, a high court judge has ruled”.


424593 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Maverick, 17, #952 of 1640 🔗

That, of course, is the least of his crimes.

424605 ▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to Jo, 5, #953 of 1640 🔗

But at least one is now exposed, the rest will follow. He is arrogant and thick at the same time, and will be exposed for what he is

424630 ▶▶▶▶ Jo, replying to Lindy, 5, #954 of 1640 🔗

Oh I do hope so. Probably speaking for everyone on this site!

424724 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Jo, #955 of 1640 🔗

But, speaking for many on this site, we know he probably won’t.

424820 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Steve F, #956 of 1640 🔗

Optimism, Steve !

High court judges saying things carries a tad more weight than you or I BTL. 🙂

424575 Andrea Salford, replying to Andrea Salford, 6, #957 of 1640 🔗

So Energy suddenly mithering me to have Smart meters fitted. All just a conflation of coincidences.

424581 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Andrea Salford, 6, #958 of 1640 🔗

Just say no.

424657 ▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Jo, 1, #959 of 1640 🔗

Or the blunt Anglo-Saxon version of ‘no’.

424585 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #960 of 1640 🔗

Same with me as regards a water meter.

424598 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #961 of 1640 🔗

Draft up your own decline letter from here
plenty available


424617 ▶▶ Edward, replying to Andrea Salford, 2, #962 of 1640 🔗

I’ve been getting that for years, always ignored it, and haven’t been asked about it for some time now.

424756 ▶▶ John Crichton, replying to Andrea Salford, 2, #963 of 1640 🔗

Reject it! They can disconnect you remotely and if you don’t know how (or at not brave enough) to bypass the meter then you are stuffed. I tick both boxes but many struggle even with putting a plug on a flexible cord for domestic appliances.

424803 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Andrea Salford, #964 of 1640 🔗

“This was going to be called Crap Rap Fourteen, but it’s now Stop….Mithering.”

424580 Jo, replying to Jo, 11, #965 of 1640 🔗

Having watched all nine episodes of this series of programmes (Vaccines Revealed, but it covers so much more) I can state with a fair measure of certainty that I am probably an “anti-vaxxer”, much as I detest that label.
10 hours left to watch the last episode.
The brilliant Dr Zach Bush, Mary Holland (doing the high level legal stuff for Children’s Defense in America and bonus epi Robert Kennedy Jnr.


424589 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Jo, 7, #966 of 1640 🔗

You can reject the label, or you can choose to call yourself that out loud. You’re someone who has woken up to the horrors of the witches brew that vaccines are and the harm they cause.

424602 ▶▶▶ Jo, replying to this is my username, 12, #967 of 1640 🔗

Trouble is, in these days of identity politics, people assume so much about you if you have a label. And I don’t have time or inclination to put them right.
Like the fact I have been vegan for 30 years… I have nothing in common with the new virtue-signalling vegans. I am so because I was brought up and worked on a factory farm and when I stopped taking the pigs to slaughter I began to realise that as a sentimental animal lover I didn’t want to eat them any more.

424817 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to this is my username, 2, #968 of 1640 🔗

Anyone who has looked at the evidence properly becomes an anti-vaxxer. Providing they have the ability and willingness to look, and the courage and humility to admit they have been lied to all their lives, that is.

Yep, it’s a pain being labelled and dismissed as such. But there are so many pains at present …

424858 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to JohnB, 1, #969 of 1640 🔗

You’re quite right. I became vaccine aware many years ago but it was mostly too late for my kids. The only vaccine I spared them was Gardisil, thank goodness. I now believe my younger daughter, who got more vaccines because she was less healthy (I did the exact wrong thing!) was probably vaccine injured (ADD). Once you go down the rabbit hole of vaccines it’s impossible to un-know the extent to which they are neither safe nor effective.

424591 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Jo, 4, #970 of 1640 🔗

Just to add, fascinating bit near the end of Mary Holland’s interview – she is asked whether the US should be looking to Europe re fighting the tyranny – she said that generally she felt Europe was looking to America – and noted along the way how terrible the lockdown is in the UK, with “only 3 people being allowed to gather outside”, except, and I forgive her the generous error, it’s only 2.
Glad, I suppose, that the ridiculously tight “measures” here have been duly noted.

424601 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Jo, 7, #971 of 1640 🔗

I’m glad you mentioned Vaccines Revealed — I’ve watched the entire series and bought it so I can share and re-watch. It was brilliant. I was vaccine hesitant or vaccine aware — the preferred terms — before all of this, but I will proudly wear the anti-vaxx label if that’s what the evil people want to call me. Speaking of, I was apoplectic while doing the New York Times crossword yesterday. I cancelled my subscription long ago but retained the puzzles as a distraction from all the Covid reading I do. One of the clues yesterday was something to the effect of: A label that applies to some libertarians. Answer: antivaxx. While I am, indeed, a libertarian I was “anti-vaxx” when I was a liberal as well. I can’t even use the crossword as an escape any longer!

424611 ▶▶▶ Jo, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 3, #972 of 1640 🔗

I think I am probably going to buy it because there are four or five episodes I want to watch again and also want to see episode 10! It has actually made me feel better since watching them on a daily basis, because it is a comfort to know that there are such clever and interesting people who have taken a stand. I think some of them are “awesome” in the truest sense.

424679 ▶▶ ThomasT, replying to Jo, 1, #973 of 1640 🔗

Just watched the first half and Zach Bush explains stuff really well.

424582 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 10, #974 of 1640 🔗

Hospitals are beginning to blame serious vaccine injuries on the deceased patient’s immune system [US]



 Jane Roberts of the Daily Memphian reports on the sudden death of a young orthopedic surgeon at the Baptist Memorial Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee. According to the report, Dr. J. Barton Williams (36) passed away not long after receiving the covid-19 vaccine. The previously healthy surgeon began to experience multi-system inflammatory syndrome (MIS) after vaccination. MIS is one of the twenty-six adverse events that the FDA initially warned about when the covid-19 vaccines were rushed through clinical trials and approved for emergency use. MIS is an autoimmune reaction that involves life-threatening inflammation of the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes or gastrointestinal organs and can lead to death.

Hospital conspires to rule out COVID vaccine as the cause of young surgeon’s death

Instead of investigating the role that the vaccine caused in the doctor’s death, his former colleagues are trying to rule out any link to the vaccine. “We want to be sure there is no indication that there is any relationship to the vaccine at this point,” said Baptist infectious disease expert Dr. Stephen Threlkeld, in an official statement. Baptist physicians admitted they are working with the CDC to eliminate any notion that the man’s death was related to the vaccine.

The infectious disease experts are trying to blame the doctor’s immune system for the death and are making the absurd claim that a previous COVID infection was the culprit behind his death, despite the hospital never recovering the virus from him. The deceased Dr. Williams had never tested positive for covid-19 and was even vaccinated to ensure that the virus would never affect him. The hospital is trying to declare that the doctor’s death was the first case of someone who “died of a delayed immune response to COVID and had received the vaccine.”



Medical establishment covering for the vaccine industry by blaming the victims of vaccine injury

Dr. Scott Strome, executive dean of the College of Medicine at University of Tennessee Health Science Center , is blaming the deceased doctor’s sudden onset of MIS as an immunological response to a previous COVID infection, not a reaction to the vaccine. Dr. Threlkeld went along with the theory, dismissing the deceased doctor’s multiple negative COVID tests and pretending COVID was behind it all. Dr. Threlkeld believes the patient could have had a COVID infection long ago, an infection that could have caused systemic inflammation and death long after the man recovered from the infection.


424594 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Victoria, 15, #975 of 1640 🔗

I read about this doctor last week and I just knew they would somehow try to blame the victim. It’s NEVER the vaccine — so many coincidences. The vaccine injury court never intends to pay out compensation for the victims so they will simply find enough crooked “experts” to swear it wasn’t the vaccine. If people don’t get wise to the scam, it’s their funeral.

424600 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Victoria, 9, #976 of 1640 🔗

Obviously they had the wrong sort of immune system!

424688 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Victoria, 1, #977 of 1640 🔗

Of course it is possible that he had a bit of virus in his system but never tested+ for it, and therefor the vaccine caused a huge infection.
It does not matter if he had covid before or not, without the vaccine he would most likely not have developed MIS.

424584 ogri, 6, #978 of 1640 🔗

Glenn Bishop has more sense than these so called experts, perhaps all these comittees and ‘experts’ should be sacked and he and his fellow students should be advising the government.

424590 Ganjan21, replying to Ganjan21, 88, #979 of 1640 🔗

And so it goes on, a large proportion of the population seemingly just putting up with the fact that lockdown is going to go on in some form until the summer at least. Not giving a shit about the real devastating impact this is having on an endless list of people in despair. What the hell is wrong with these imbeciles?! Almost an entire year of this shit and they still sit on their arses continuing to allow themselves to be fed lies after lies. Choosing to waste their life away. Suckers.

Anyway, it’s my birthday this weekend and I am travelling 50 miles tomorrow with my children so we can all see and hug numerous family members. I can’t wait.

424614 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Ganjan21, 3, #980 of 1640 🔗

Happy Birthday!

424616 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Ganjan21, 11, #981 of 1640 🔗

It is weird, as best i can see it’s all over, well in fact I thought it was all over months ago but certainly the situation now can hardly in any way justify continuing action. It is all being run on wound up fear and hysteria and in my view a major driving reason is our ‘Dear Leaders’ huge mind blowing political ambition, he wants to be the Global Covid super-hero of the forthcoming Cornish G7 meeting. Blagging his way to being British P.M. was not enough he has global ambitions and we all pay the price.
Mind you I think while the weather is poor many folk are keeping their heads down and doing all the work they can but when the first signs of spring are in the air I think many people will want to break free.

424622 ▶▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #982 of 1640 🔗

Yes, although even on cold winter days I witnessed quite a lot of people meeting up outdoors and not adhering to the rules of six and SD or whatever other crap. I agree, the spring will be telling for sure!

424729 ▶▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #983 of 1640 🔗

G7 meetings should be banned, they are just a battleground for competing virtue signallers.

424638 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ganjan21, 2, #984 of 1640 🔗

Have a great day!

424743 ▶▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Annie, 1, #985 of 1640 🔗

Thank you Annie

424639 ▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Ganjan21, 3, #986 of 1640 🔗

Happy birthday. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend!

424664 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Ganjan21, 2, #987 of 1640 🔗

I expect the GMOs will become more compliant.

424693 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 10, #988 of 1640 🔗

Funny you should mention GMOs. I heard someone remark yesterday (in the Vaccines Revealed series) that it’s ironic that all the progressives who avoid eating GMO foods and have fought so hard to have them labelled in stores seem to be super eager to genetically modify themselves.

424701 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 3, #989 of 1640 🔗

Agree, it’s tragic and hilarious.

424785 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 3, #990 of 1640 🔗

Can only disagree. Nearly all the people in the various groups I attend are as anti-‘vaccine’ as they are anti-GMO.

Nudging/propaganda takes many forms. I’d be wary of anyone spouting such stuff.

424846 ▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to JohnB, #991 of 1640 🔗

That would be true for people who are consistent. I avoid GMOs and won’t take the “vaccine” but I think there are a lot of people who will avoid GMOs and take the “vaccine.” First, because they have been lied to and don’t realize that this is not a vaccine in the traditional sense and is, in fact, a gene therapy. Second, because they will make a distinction between a behaviour that is for their benefit and doesn’t harm other people (choosing to eat non-GMO foods) and a behaviour they equate with doing one’s civic duty and “protecting” others. I truly hope you’re right and the anti-GMO folks will choose not to take the experimental gene therapy, but my faith in other humans has been sorely tested this last year and hypocrisy abounds.

425023 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, #992 of 1640 🔗

For sure, Lisa. One makes an effort to avoid inconsistent/hypocritical people of course. 🙂

424684 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Ganjan21, 3, #993 of 1640 🔗

Happy birthday and enjoy time with your loved ones!

424697 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Ganjan21, #994 of 1640 🔗

We all glow down here, Georgie

424615 Markus Skepticus, replying to Markus Skepticus, 77, #995 of 1640 🔗

On Monday this week, the weather had improved, the temperature had risen and it felt almost spring-like. It made me nostalgic for weekends away, which in turn made me nostalgic for a hotel we visit every year – apart from last – in Spain.

When I got home, among the letters behind the door, I found an envelope marked NHS. Inside was my invitation to receive the vaccine.

This was it. My chance to get vaccinated and eventually rightfully receive my freedom pass, my immunity passport, my digital ticket to freedom.

I mulled it over. Again and again. I even thought, “well, I can be the guinea pig for my remaining friends and my family.” I’m not afraid of death.

Today’s Friday, and as I was cleaning the kitchen up, I picked up the NHS vaccine appointment letter, crumpled it, and binned it.

Fuck them.

424627 ▶▶ iane, replying to Markus Skepticus, 12, #996 of 1640 🔗

I’ve had 8 texts and two letters. Same response as yours – except no mulling over!

424633 ▶▶▶ Biggles, replying to iane, 7, #997 of 1640 🔗

I’m getting a bit worried. I had a couple of texts just over a week ago (deleted), the standard letter two days later (binned) but nothing since then. It’s quiet, too quiet…..

424643 ▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Biggles, 4, #998 of 1640 🔗

Same here!

424675 ▶▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to isobar, 3, #999 of 1640 🔗

Looking at the dashboard, it has slowed down a lot this week, maybe they are waiting for more to be manufactured and delivered.

424708 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to iane, 3, #1000 of 1640 🔗

They really must think that by the 10th text you’ll be won over. Idiots

424765 ▶▶▶ alw, replying to iane, 2, #1001 of 1640 🔗

11 texts and 3 letters for me.

424663 ▶▶ mj, replying to Markus Skepticus, 4, #1002 of 1640 🔗

ive had nothing yet .. i must either be immune or dead

424668 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Markus Skepticus, 2, #1003 of 1640 🔗

Good for you.

424682 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Markus Skepticus, 6, #1004 of 1640 🔗

Good on you! I have a potential response for anyone who is asked why they are not getting the “vaccine.” I would say that if I’m going to consent to be part of a Phase 3 human trial of an experimental gene therapy I choose to be in the control group.

424698 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 4, #1005 of 1640 🔗

I have been telling people that for a while – mostly they just say Reeeely? How interesting – how did you find out about that?
Which brings a great opportunity…..

424738 ▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to Markus Skepticus, 12, #1006 of 1640 🔗

Why do people think they are going to get some kind of ‘freedom pass’ if they take the so-called vaccine? Has this, in digital form or otherwise, been promised? I’ve heard people who are otherwise clear thinkers saying this and I just don’t get it. The government keeps moving the goalposts, but I’ve never heard an actual statement that somehow you will be ‘free’ if you take the jab. Even if the government did one day say it, I would not believe it, given its abysmal track record.

I don’t mean to be impolite, but I don’t understand why so many people are reading things in that are not there. All that I have heard from government sources is something vague about investigating a way to share ‘vaccination’ data with foreign governments for travel purposes (I think – it’s not very clear). There is plenty of room here for privacy concerns, quite frankly. As for ‘vaccine passports’, I suppose it’s wishful thinking and we are being misled by the media, as usual.

I wish people, particularly those who claim to be sceptical, would think very carefully about a jab that could significantly alter your immune system (irreversibly), and not necessarily for the better. Perhaps it will work for those who are particularly at risk, but we simply do not know at this very early stage and those who are taking the jab are, effectively, guinea pigs in the biggest medical experiment in history.

424969 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Markus Skepticus, 1, #1007 of 1640 🔗

I am certainly going to do the same with my invitation. It’s not like they will only ask you once is it.

424618 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 17, #1008 of 1640 🔗

Great document covering legal aspects if employer wanting to make vaccination compulsory

Give the pdf version to your employer and even Universities or other institutions


32. Mandating the vaccine could give rise to claims from employees who suffer an adverse reaction to the vaccine. In the event of an employee dying or suffering serious injury after receiving the vaccine and a link being established (i.e. it being proven on a balance of probabilities that the vaccine caused the employee’s death or serious injury and but for the employer mandating the vaccine, the employee would not have taken it), a claim may be brought by the deceased employee’s family or the injured employee against the employer.


424654 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Victoria, 1, #1009 of 1640 🔗

Excellent, thanks for posting.

424662 ▶▶ houdini, replying to Victoria, 1, #1010 of 1640 🔗

It’s a good point because the employer will not have the immunity from legal action conferred on the manufacturers of the vaccine.

424677 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to houdini, 1, #1011 of 1640 🔗

Exactly, and I’m not sure they realize this yet. They’re going to have to weigh up their liability risk — are they more exposed because someone might claim they contracted Covid from the workplace or from an unvaxxed employee vs. a massive injury or death claim from an employee who was forced to take the “treatment” by the employer? Perhaps businesses will wake up to the fact that the actual makers of the “vaccine” get immunity but they don’t! Hmmm, why do Pfizer/Moderna, the government and the medical people get a free pass but I don’t? Employers are especially at risk because these therapies haven’t even been approved and it’s not legal to mandate anything that has only been given emergency use authorization.

424674 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Victoria, #1012 of 1640 🔗


424689 ▶▶ Ambwozere, replying to Victoria, #1013 of 1640 🔗

Thank you

424626 leggy, replying to leggy, 5, #1014 of 1640 🔗

Perhaps Nepal is another one to add to the list or potential get aways?


“It’s as if nothing has happened. The nightclubs are crowded. Schools and colleges are reopening. Sports venues are full. It doesn’t seem like there is any Covid,” says Sameer Mani Dixit, a public health specialist. “It defies logic.”

424632 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to leggy, 1, #1015 of 1640 🔗

High altitude – better lungs? More efficient oxygenation?

424649 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to vargas99, #1016 of 1640 🔗

Could well be. Or immunity reached. Or better diet, better metabolic health in general.

424665 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to leggy, 3, #1017 of 1640 🔗

Lower BMI’s?

424659 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to vargas99, 2, #1018 of 1640 🔗

or the rona suffers from acrophobia. a theory as rational as most covid theories

424637 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to leggy, 4, #1019 of 1640 🔗

“They’re a poor country, and they chose the radical, unheard-of approach of overturning a policy that would have had them starving to death”

Courtesy of Tom Woods.

Meanwhile here in socialist utopia we pay people to do nothing, because we think man is so omnipotent he can control nature.

424652 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Lindy, -13, #1020 of 1640 🔗

here in socialist utopia”

Only appears so if you’re seriously delusional righty whiner.

It’s the culmination of a 40-year Tory dystopia in actuality.

424755 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, 1, #1021 of 1640 🔗

Your obsessions showing through again, grow up! 😀

424829 ▶▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Anti_socialist, -1, #1022 of 1640 🔗

He has gone past the age when you can grow up…he reminds me so much of my partner’s Dad…its too late for him to break out of the ideology now…he is 82 and a covid zealot and biblical guardian reader.

424973 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Boris Bullshit, -1, #1023 of 1640 🔗

guardian reader.

That explains everything. But I’m afraid I’m a bit of troll, I like winding him up.

424825 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to RickH, #1024 of 1640 🔗

Give it a rest Richard ….the Left is capable of evil too you know…I know its hard for you to accept that!

424653 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Lindy, 1, #1025 of 1640 🔗

Yep, was the Tom Woods update where I picked it up. Well worth subscribing.

424667 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to leggy, 6, #1026 of 1640 🔗

Same. I love him, his daily emails and his podcasts. He really has kept me sane, along with all of you on this forum!

424670 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to leggy, 6, #1027 of 1640 🔗

No test
No problem

424861 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to leggy, 2, #1028 of 1640 🔗

Or they just stopped pretending it exist

424628 Barbara Baker, replying to Barbara Baker, 6, #1029 of 1640 🔗

Have a watch of this if you haven’t already seen it….. brings us right up to date with all the conspiracy/bio terror stuff, but explains such a lot- if you have the stomach to go right down the rabbit hole
Stick with it to the end……

Courteousy of corbettreport.com
Episode 383 COVID-911

424757 ▶▶ Templeton, replying to Barbara Baker, 3, #1030 of 1640 🔗

James Corbett is a good man.

424851 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Templeton, 1, #1031 of 1640 🔗

Absolutely – and been on this con for about 14 yrs!!

424636 Barbara Baker, 2, #1032 of 1640 🔗

I also rewatched this (from last July)- seems like most of it is now coming true

424660 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 5, #1033 of 1640 🔗

Government: The space occupied by super nonces

424722 ▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Cecil B, #1034 of 1640 🔗

Or, Government: The space occupied by a vacuum.

424669 A. Contrarian, replying to A. Contrarian, 22, #1035 of 1640 🔗

I have just had the most lovely reply from Charles Walker after I emailed him about my mental health struggles. It appears to be personalised – not sure how he’s doing it if so. Either way it’s amazing. Has anyone else had the same?

424680 ▶▶ isobar, replying to A. Contrarian, 5, #1036 of 1640 🔗

That’s great. Pity that he’s not our PM. Fat pig dictator move over!

424681 ▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to A. Contrarian, 4, #1037 of 1640 🔗

Wow, I’m impressed. I wrote to him just an hour or so ago, telling him my story too. I’ll let you know if I hear a reply, but I’m not expecting too, poor man must be inundated right now.

424742 ▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Redundant Pilot, 2, #1038 of 1640 🔗

Hope you get something back too. I think he is compiling evidence of the mental health impacts of lockdown so it will all help.

424713 ▶▶ Steve F, replying to A. Contrarian, 5, #1039 of 1640 🔗

He always somehow finds the time to send a personal reply. The last time I wrote, I said he needn’t feel obliged to do that as I’m not a constituent, it was general matter and I know he’s a busy man. I guess he’s getting busier by the day.

424672 Silke David, replying to Silke David, 6, #1040 of 1640 🔗

I often pick a checkout where I can see the whole face of the person working it.
Today a lady with a face shield and a big badge “I am exempt from face covering”.
I mentioned to her, her badge is ironic, as she is wearing a face covering. (a mask which covers the nose and mouth is not a face covering)
She did not get the irony, but told me she had pleurisy and how painful it was, how bad mouthnose coverings are as you breath in your germs and it increases CO2 in your body!. Yeah!
But sadly she only learned that after suffering from illness due to mnc.
And she has not realised how much a face shield muffles the sound of the voice, and I had to lean in to hear her.

424686 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Silke David, 10, #1041 of 1640 🔗

I wrote to Sir Charles Walker today and one thing I said was that I couldn’t hear people when they speak with a mask on, so could no longer feel less isolated by talking to people in the supermarket. I also mentioned I had stopped smiling at people because you can’t communicate – your smile is not reflected back to you like it used to be.

424676 isobar, 2, #1042 of 1640 🔗

Good article from AIER on lockdowns and the Texas Power Disaster


424678 VickyA, replying to VickyA, 18, #1043 of 1640 🔗

Things that don’t make sense:

Pubs with no beer
Double or triple masking, masking when virus particles are smaller than fabric gaps
A virus that can tell the time (curfews) and place (hospital yes, supermarket no)
That DC needs a fence with razor wire to keep out the public
That a swab taken up the ass can also detect a virus
Eat out to help out but no Christmas dins?
WHO moving guidelines in time with political changeovers
Elite sport OK (makes money), amateur sport not OK

Has the education system fallen so much that people can’t see when someone is taking the piss?

424690 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to VickyA, 3, #1044 of 1640 🔗


And now there have been reports that the ‘vaccine’ has affected the personality of the GMOs. Perhaps this is by design. I suppose we shall see.

424691 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to VickyA, 10, #1045 of 1640 🔗

That the virus will catch you at 2mtrs, but you have to poke around in the nostril and throat to get a sample

424749 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to VickyA, #1046 of 1640 🔗

Things that don’t make sense:


424879 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to VickyA, 1, #1047 of 1640 🔗

Rugby players who have to be 2m apart for the anthems, but then 16 of them fit into a 3m square area two minutes later, frequently repeated until a player leaves the pitch, when he has to put a face mask on to stop him infecting others. .

424888 ▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to Richy_m_99, #1048 of 1640 🔗

Just another example of what a load of twaddle this if.

Maybe singing a National Anthem miraculously sends the virus off a sports pitch ?

Who knows ? It’s a very clever virus.

424687 Basileus, 5, #1050 of 1640 🔗

Daily Expose


Think the Pfizer jab is safe? – 3rd Gov. update on adverse reactions to Covid Vaccines released.

424692 houdini, replying to houdini, 11, #1051 of 1640 🔗

So the line at the G7 is unless the whole world is vaccinated then the vaccine won’t work .
This begs the question of which vaccine,how often it has to be taken and so on.
It looks like India and Nepal mentioned below are getting back to normal without either vaccinating everyone or lockdowns,

As the virus wanes naturally I can’t see a compelling sales pitch here.

424700 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to houdini, 8, #1052 of 1640 🔗

Build back better throughout.

Total vaccination.

Utter utter globalist jerk off

424695 GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 1, #1053 of 1640 🔗

Go beyond the fear of your mortality and be free.

424703 Waldorf, replying to Waldorf, 2, #1054 of 1640 🔗

According to the Daily Mail, they have not found Covid on the London Underground. Yippee!

424707 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Waldorf, 10, #1055 of 1640 🔗

Won’t be long til they can’t find the London Underground- it will be boarded up if this goes on much longer

424716 ▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Waldorf, 3, #1056 of 1640 🔗

The mutant underground variant would have scared the shit out of the midden-heads.

424704 Boxfish, replying to Boxfish, 7, #1057 of 1640 🔗

Logic seems to indicate that if restrictions work only the more contagious varieties overcome those restrictions so they are the ones that get passed on so effective restrictions make the disease more contagious – Heavy symptoms result in natural isolation ‘in bed’ while those with milder or no symptoms remain in the arena passing on the milder symptoms so isolating everyone removes the natural passing on of the milder symptoms so ‘Lockdown’ reduces the tendency towards milder symptoms and could reverse the natural benefit – Effective restrictions will increase the time to achieve the inevitable herd immunity allowing more time for mutations when the whole process has to start over – Also we are unlikely to get such a mild pandemic again where most have to be tested to know they are ill and total deaths remain around average!

424717 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Boxfish, 4, #1058 of 1640 🔗

This point was widely made a year ago. The truth of it has been demonstrated since in a worldwide year-long experiment.

I do not expect that to cut through in any way except btl here.

424721 ▶▶▶ A Heretic, replying to Ovis, #1059 of 1640 🔗

quite similar in fact to at least one of the theories as to why Spanish flu was such a killer.

424762 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Boxfish, 1, #1060 of 1640 🔗

The Edinburgh group took Fergusons model and shows that lockdown minimises the number of cases but maximises the number of deaths – because the young arent going out and getting it all and getting immune

424709 Anti_socialist, 1, #1061 of 1640 🔗
424710 DanClarke, 5, #1062 of 1640 🔗

They must be planning on making a shed load from the gene therapies, you need taxes to keep a country going and they are crashing them

424711 isobar, replying to isobar, 17, #1063 of 1640 🔗

Daily Covid deaths to plunge by more than half to 200 by mid-March and hospital admissions to fall by two-thirds, SAGE predicts

So why the hell are we still in lockdown?

424715 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to isobar, 4, #1064 of 1640 🔗

‘I wondered who would be the first to spot that.’ – Capt. Mainwaring.

424784 ▶▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to Basileus, 1, #1065 of 1640 🔗

‘Doomed, we’re all doomed!’ – Private Frazer

424734 ▶▶ jb12, replying to isobar, 5, #1066 of 1640 🔗

Because it has nothing to do with a virus.

424712 Old Bill, replying to Old Bill, 18, #1067 of 1640 🔗

There was quite an argument a while ago about using the term ‘bedwetters’ to describe covid zealots. It never bothered me as I was quite happy to use the term, but others disagreed and it has almost disappeared from the forum.

Accordingly I would like to offer you an alterntive “Midden-Heads”. The thing about a midden is that you can stuff as much shite into it as you like and it will always accept it and never ask questions. Only when it is long dead and excavated by archaeologists does the disgusting amount of tripe that it contains become obvious.

It seems apt to me.

424720 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Old Bill, 7, #1068 of 1640 🔗

I was one of those in favour of dropping the term ‘bedwetter’. I regret that now, and think we should start using the term again.

There’s no reasoning with or helping these people. So why not ridicule them? They’ve caused us enough grief.

Then again, I suppose the best argument against the term now is that we shouldn’t mock the afflicted.

424732 ▶▶▶ jb12, replying to TJN, 1, #1069 of 1640 🔗

It isn’t ridiculing if the metaphor is wholly descriptive, which it was. That was the start of LS becoming more accepting of the opposing view and look at it now shilling for the vaccines.

424811 ▶▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to jb12, 3, #1070 of 1640 🔗

Thats very true the rot started there, I remember Toby justifying it on London Calling. I think he is still labouring under the illusion that the government and the sheep can be persuaded by the right language. Thats a delusion….minds will only change in time when the sheep’s lives become too intolerable for them. In the meantime we just have to carve out our own survival niches and bed down for the long haul. At least we will one day be remembered as having principles and standing against tyranny.

So fuck the bedwetting bastards.

424868 ▶▶▶▶▶ AidanR, replying to Boris Bullshit, 1, #1071 of 1640 🔗

Glad people are finally realising that we are in a war, and it’s not the one Boris thinks we’re in.

Never ever compromise with or accommodate an implacable enemy.

425043 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to jb12, 1, #1072 of 1640 🔗

You may indeed have a point – I’m not sure what has gone on behind the scenes.

But certainly back then it seemed to me that we cold still win our case by logical argument. That illusion has gone now. You can’t reason with cultists.

424733 ▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to TJN, 6, #1073 of 1640 🔗

I like zombies to be fair. It describes them aptly.

424739 ▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to JHUNTZ, 4, #1074 of 1640 🔗

I like “zombies,” as a term, too. Brain dead but still very destructive.

424737 ▶▶ Gtec, replying to Old Bill, 1, #1075 of 1640 🔗


424750 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Gtec, #1076 of 1640 🔗

Trouser Moisteners

424751 ▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Gtec, 1, #1077 of 1640 🔗

Mattress irrigators

424754 ▶▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Cecil B, #1078 of 1640 🔗

I lolled at that, thanks

424714 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 2, #1079 of 1640 🔗
424746 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to Basileus, #1080 of 1640 🔗

That’s some really good stuff right there – especially the last graph. Good old Imperial – wonder how they would spin that?

424824 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to Basileus, 1, #1081 of 1640 🔗

I believe the Swine Flu had the same shapes as this with respect to cases (i.e. casedemic). What we have here is Death by Attribution. There appears to have been a massive push to classify deaths as Covid in the last month. And even with that the numbers are falling rapidly.

424723 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 11, #1082 of 1640 🔗

I was told today the F&M vanished when the cattle were all culled, I asked quite reasonably, I thought, whether they were suggesting something and got called stupid.

424761 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to DanClarke, 2, #1083 of 1640 🔗

Ask them if they know what happens to a flock of poultry if one is found to have Avian Flu, and if they are suggesting the same thing for humans and any close contacts.

424725 Basileus, 13, #1084 of 1640 🔗
424728 Redundant Pilot, 5, #1085 of 1640 🔗

As just posted on Twotter….even the mainstream media is starting to wake up…this is the Wall Street Journal saying herd immunity will be achieved by April…


424736 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 43, #1086 of 1640 🔗

Sent an e-mail to the CEO of Morrisons saying that the actions of his staff the other day were basically the same as Nazi Germany used against teh Jews.

Morrison’s answer from his sidekick:

Thank you for contacting David.

We’re following government guidelines. Customers can inform our store colleagues when entering the store that they are medically exempt.

So I sent this back:

Did you read and understand my e-mail?

I don’t think you understood anything that I put in it.

Your answer is corporate blah blah blah bullshit bollocks blah..

What happened is close to what happened to the Jews in the 1930 Germany.

Guidelines have NO FORCE OF LAW and you do not need to follow them.

You MUST work to an evidence based risk assessment and the Government CANNOT supply any evidence that their “covid safe” guidance will keep anyone “safe”.

So your answer is a complete lot of what can only be described as twaddle and if anything happened to either a customer or a member of staff on one of your premises with regards to the wearing of face coverings as Morrisons does not have any defence nor any evidence based risk assessment to justify their position then Morrisons and in breach of the Health and Safety legislation.

Fuck ’em. Stick it to the man.

424782 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Awkward Git, 9, #1087 of 1640 🔗

Well said! (And, by the way, don’t you just HATE the patronising word ‘ ‘colleagues’ ‘? They’re bloody ‘ ’employees” for crying out loud.)

424842 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Banjones, 5, #1088 of 1640 🔗

PS What a pity they can’t be persuaded to use one of the ”No mask, we don’t ask” posters – which is what EVERY retail premises should be displaying.

425330 ▶▶▶ stevie119, replying to Banjones, #1089 of 1640 🔗

Yep, far too much euphemistic, doublespeak bullshit twaddle about these days.

424740 Julian, replying to Julian, 10, #1090 of 1640 🔗

From Zoe

“Your data shows that adding fatigue, sore throat, headache and diarrhoea to the ‘classic triad’ of cough, fever and loss of smell would help pick up around a third more cases of COVID-19. So this week we officially launched a campaign to get the UK Government to add four more symptoms! Read about it here: https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/feeling-unwell-it-could-be-covid-19-so-get-a-test

So they goad people with vague symptoms into getting tested, so more people get tested and more are found positive and then they correlate that with those symptoms so the R rate they report goes up…. Marvellous

424744 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Julian, 7, #1091 of 1640 🔗

Well that’s the early symptoms of just about every virus known to man covered then.

424747 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Julian, 12, #1092 of 1640 🔗

I got the same email

Feel unwell? Assume it’s COVID and get a test! “

Tim Spector is mentally ill

424760 ▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to steve_w, 2, #1093 of 1640 🔗

Me too, sounds a bit like one of my hangovers

424772 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to steve_w, 4, #1094 of 1640 🔗

Spector has been a lot less hysterical than many, but is still sadly bought into the narrative

424832 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to steve_w, 3, #1095 of 1640 🔗

He was fine till he took his 30 pcs of silver and allowed HMG to “invest” in his app research

424777 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Julian, 1, #1096 of 1640 🔗

Many of my comments, though seemingly cheerful and playful, are not allowed through the Dark Halls of censorship.

424779 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Banjones, 2, #1097 of 1640 🔗

So I’ll try again…..
I must admit to having no idea what the ”Zoe app” is – having used my smart phone as a phone and a camera for the past 11 months, usually leaving it at home anyway, and using a very old PAYG pocket-sized really useful thing.

I shall Gurgle it so that I can come back more enlightened…….

424797 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Banjones, #1098 of 1640 🔗

It’s just a big self-reporting covid survey where you say if you have symptoms or not, whether you’ve had a test

They cross check with test results to give a prediction of how many people actually have it symptomatically

It’s possibly a bit more accurate the the govts figures, though probably overstates things

It’s probably more responsive to changes as people report daily

424844 ▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Julian, 5, #1099 of 1640 🔗

I am trying to visualise the sort of person who ”reports daily”. Really sad people, obviously, who have contributed to the mess we’re in now.

424887 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bill H, replying to Banjones, 1, #1100 of 1640 🔗

I do. Started a couple of months ago. I’m always fine so figured it was a handy way to help drive the numbers down.

The results appear to track the actual prevalence of respiratory infections quite well.

Sign on and input the good news. Vote Early and Vote Often.


424791 ▶▶ Sarigan (Day 334 of lockdown), replying to Julian, 10, #1101 of 1640 🔗
  • Severe fatigue (yep from all this horseshit)
  • Headache (after too much red wine)
  • Change or loss of smell (anosmia) or taste (nope)
  • Persistent cough (only when shopping)
  • High temperature/fever (when angry)
  • Diarrhoea (see above too much red wine)
  • Unusual pains in the chest, abdomen or muscles (unusual pains in the arse have increased)
  • Sore throat or a hoarse voice (from screaming at the press conferences)
  • Severe shortness of breath (from shock at the stupidity of what was just said)
  • Sudden confusion (delirium) (Constant confusion)
  • Skipping meals (eh?)
  • Skin rash (not me but for mask wearers loads)
  • Changes to the tongue or mouth ulcers. (from biting my tongue too often yes)
424815 ▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to Julian, 3, #1102 of 1640 🔗

I follow him on Twitter it’s very amusing. There was someone who was complaining that she got prompted by the app to take a Covid test after entering her symptoms that were from her PMT. There’s no cure for stupid. Also lots of obsession over “Covid tongue” which literally is a symptom of many chronic conditions, thyroid, vit deficiencies, etc etc. But no. All these people have long Covid. Seriously, the health conditions being misdiagnosed because everything’s Covid or long Covid is staggering.

424741 Anti_socialist, 1, #1103 of 1640 🔗
424745 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 50, #1104 of 1640 🔗

Had to do some work today at a couple of “covid testing centres” with Mrs Awkward in attendance.

A few comments:

  • they are being dismantled except for “regional centres” and replaced with a van and gazebo
  • the average number of staff of 4 – 2 to do testing, 2 NHS test and trace
  • the test and trace personnel are male, 30-45, very overweight, just stand around looking like idiotic bouncers
  • the other 2 wear SERCO embroidered body warmers, female, are 20-22, no medical training, no medical qualifications
  • one centre told me they had performed 4 tests all day
  • they were that bored they asked me to take a test as I was there – declined.
  • They asked me if I was worried not wearing a mask. Won’t go through the conversation but when I mentioned FOIs, facts and evidence they all stood still, went quiet and shuffled their feet like naughty schoolkids – which they were not far off.

Fun afternoon.

424748 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to Awkward Git, 8, #1105 of 1640 🔗

This “pandemic” is happening in the virtual world only. Very strange times indeed.

424758 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Awkward Git, 8, #1106 of 1640 🔗

I kind of feel sorry for them as they will soon be joining the dole queue.

424766 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Silke David, 7, #1107 of 1640 🔗

Ignorance IS pitiable and infuriating at the same time.
These young people are children of the internet age – why the hell don’t they do some of their own research?

424773 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to Awkward Git, 7, #1108 of 1640 🔗

Did you ask them to wash in soap and water their hands every time they touched their masks, and then put on a nice clean one. Of course, having disposed of the used on hygienically. ?

I wish I was brave enough

424752 DJ Dod, replying to DJ Dod, 10, #1109 of 1640 🔗

Apologies if this has been posted already, but it’s worth reading. Apparently boffins have been scouring public transport in London looking for the ‘killer virus’ for the last four months, without success:


424792 ▶▶ Adamb, replying to DJ Dod, 13, #1110 of 1640 🔗

I make a point of ostentatiously thumbing door open buttons in front of other passengers whose eyes tend to bulge out of their heads at the sight. The contortions that some of these idiots perform to do the same without skin contact is laughable.

424810 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Adamb, 8, #1111 of 1640 🔗

I’ve done this in lifts and, yes, the nutters go mental. I had one woman, cowering in the corner ( in a lift FFS! ), shout at me, “can’t you use a pencil, or something to do that!”.

424826 ▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Ceriain, 7, #1112 of 1640 🔗

I wonder if she would’ve been happy for you to drop your trousers ?

424840 ▶▶▶▶▶ straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to Barbara Baker, 6, #1113 of 1640 🔗

Can I use your dictaphone? No use your fingers like everyone else.

424865 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Barbara Baker, 5, #1114 of 1640 🔗

Barbara! Normally, I’m not one to boast, but… 👍🏻 🤣 🤪

425279 ▶▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Ceriain, #1115 of 1640 🔗

It’s like a skit a colleague and I used to do in lifts: “How’s the rash Engineer”.

“Oh it’s getting better thanks, doctor gave me some powder but people shouldn’t stand within four feet or me he said”.

424957 ▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Adamb, 2, #1116 of 1640 🔗

Ha ha, I do this at pedestrian crossings, it’s hilarious!

424964 ▶▶▶▶ Adamb, replying to A. Contrarian, 2, #1117 of 1640 🔗

Haha, yes – even better I loudly tell my small children to do it!

425090 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to A. Contrarian, #1118 of 1640 🔗

I recall months ago following behind a chap to a pelican crossing. He saw me approaching so stood to one side so that I could take the risk 🙂 of pushing the button…which I did with a flourish!

425166 ▶▶▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Dodderydude, #1119 of 1640 🔗

Haha. yet what are the odds said gentleman subsequently went into a supermarket (or wherever) and used the chip & pin terminal that 50 others had used that day… !

424852 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to DJ Dod, 1, #1120 of 1640 🔗

Did they check with lost property?

Either that or some thieving staff member swiped the Coke Can it was in.

424880 ▶▶ isobar, replying to DJ Dod, 2, #1121 of 1640 🔗

Mind the crap?

424956 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to DJ Dod, #1122 of 1640 🔗

I do find this confusing, given that Singapore and a couple of other countries claim to have more or less eliminated covid by treating it as a faecal-oral virus like norovirus etc – obssessive hygiene and handwashing.

424753 Noumenon, 1, #1123 of 1640 🔗

Don’t know if anyone else has posted this but it’s hilarious and infuriating at the same time. Before you click it though it’s the Graun so prepare to take a walk for some fresh air and then get a shower afterwards:


424759 Banjones, 3, #1124 of 1640 🔗

The words ”end”, ”thin” and ”wedge” spring to mind.
The UK digital identity and attributes trust framework The word ”trust” is laughable.


424764 Steve F, replying to Steve F, 25, #1125 of 1640 🔗

I’ve just been thumbing through this week’s Spectator and the following excerpts from Mary Wakefield’s column have just confirmed why I made the right decision to cancel my sub (two issues remaining). Ready? Here we go:

“We have to tackle coronavirus one way or another, as the variants creep and spread, and this means either successive lockdowns, or a set of measures designed to stop the spread: quarantines, border closures, testing, masks, vaccination cards.”

She continues thus:

“I listen to the outrage in the media over vaccine passports and it sounds to me like prisoners bickering in the dark. They say they want out. They’ve been shown a tunnel that they could crawl through to freedom. But nope, they only want to escape the very same way they came in: the main gate, please, in the clothes I arrived in — and out into the very same world. But that world has changed… You can’t go home again.”

Still reeling from a mix of nausea/anger but with teeth firmly clenched, I ran into the next assault on my equilibrium as she muses on the notion of vax ID cards:

“Some of the arguments against vaccine ID cards feel just as disingenuous as Blair ever was. ‘Will oppressive immunity passports pave the way to a Chinese-style security state?’ You’d think, from the fuss, that vaccinations are mandatory in this country, and that immunity papers will be insisted on by government. But they won’t be. Boris isn’t that sort of prime minister. The deadly decision to put off lockdown till too late last spring was made because he valued freedom too much.”

And finally:

“In the corona era, one person’s freedom can be another person’s lonely incarceration in ICU.”

Not worth reading in full unless you have better self-control than I have these days.
Just glad I won’t be contributing to Mary W’s salary for much longer.

424774 ▶▶ alw, replying to Steve F, 10, #1126 of 1640 🔗

Dom Cummings wife what did you expect.

424789 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to alw, 7, #1127 of 1640 🔗

I stopped contributing to Wakefield’s fees for her Spectator articles a couple of months ago. I know someone who knows her, and I feel vaguely ashamed of the fact that I’m still surprised that she thinks she can insult the intelligence of her readership thus.
She and her family will be well looked after in the dystopia to come. They all will. They are all honourable men.

424808 ▶▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 5, #1128 of 1640 🔗

Sorry, I’m commenting on myself now: but Wakefield knows that her piece is disingenuous garbage. I don’t believe that she believes a word of what she writes. How dare she?

424847 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 4, #1129 of 1640 🔗

Depends on her degree of (a) stupidity and (b) malevolence.

425030 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Annie, 1, #1130 of 1640 🔗

And (c) greed.

424904 ▶▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 2, #1131 of 1640 🔗

No, I think she thinks what she writes applies only to us little people, the rules of the new dystopian society do not apply to the lies of her as evidence by hers and her husbands trip to Durham – when they had f***ing Covid!

425029 ▶▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 1, #1132 of 1640 🔗

That thought crossed my mind when I read it. Still let her know my thoughts BTL though.

424902 ▶▶▶ smithey, replying to alw, 4, #1133 of 1640 🔗

Worrying insight into the mentality of the people running the country

424780 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Steve F, 8, #1134 of 1640 🔗

Boris isn’t that sort of prime minister. The deadly decision to put off lockdown till too late last spring was made because he valued freedom too much.

Seriously? Could have fooled me. She also seems to forget that Boris sacked her husband.

Mrs Cummings appears to think we have a choice: frying pan, or the fire. Idiot!

425193 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Ceriain, #1135 of 1640 🔗

I’m sure she hasn’t forgotten. Maybe it was her idea?

424787 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Steve F, 11, #1136 of 1640 🔗

Personally I understand those who think (mistakenly, imo, but not incomprehensibly so like panickers) that the vaccines are acceptable as a way out of lockdown.

But what is unacceptable is when they resort to the kind of panicker catastrophism that Wakefield uses here. We have to tackle coronavirus one way or another”, “t he corona era “, “ that world has changed”.

This is just the idiocy that says “something must be done”, and gets away with it because too few just ask “why?”, and ignore the nonsense.

The deadly decision to put off lockdown till too late last spring was made because he valued freedom too much.”
“In the corona era, one person’s freedom can be another person’s lonely incarceration in ICU.”

Ah, ok. I’d forgotten Wakefield herself is a panicker. Sad.

These people who think individual health is the government’s responsibility and basic liberty is a privilege that the government can and should be withdraw at casual need should be kept way from power at all costs.

424800 ▶▶▶ Boris Bullshit, replying to Mark, 11, #1137 of 1640 🔗

The idea that Johnson made a deadly decision to put off lockdown is bullshit on 2 counts. First there is not a shred of evidence that it would have worked…countries like Peru did just that and had the worst deaths. Second there is much evidence that contracts for lockdown propaganda advertising were placed 3 weeks before lockdown was announced.

I never bought the spectator…my reading of it was limited to flipping through it in WH Smiths whilst waiting for a train. I certainly would never buy a copy now….in fact that goes for every newspaper and magazine,,,they can all go bankrupt as far as i am concerned.

424927 ▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Boris Bullshit, 1, #1138 of 1640 🔗

I used to buy a newspaper nearly everyday, I very rarely buy one now.

425199 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Boris Bullshit, #1139 of 1640 🔗

I agree that the idea that lockdown was late is bullshit, but I don’t buy that argument about supposed pre-buying of lockdown advertising, which I’ve seen mentioned a few times. Surely what was bought were just advertising slots for pandemic-related stuff. Most likely at the time (because all the evidence I’ve seen is that they were planning a Swedish-style response) they were intending to use them for general behaviour adverts.

424924 ▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Mark, 8, #1140 of 1640 🔗

Our society has changed fundamentally in a very dark way over the last year. Britain’s are no longer a free people, we are all now property of and controlled by the state. The nation is effectively a giant prison and the people are infantilised and controlled by the government – if we are good in a few weeks they may let us meet another household in the beer garden! If we are bad they will ban us from meeting up with people outdoors. This I am afraid will be an irreversible change and the future looks very dark with an authoritarian state controlling our ever move. The problem is just about every other country is in the same boat. The even more worrying thing is most people cannot even begin to grasp the enormity of what has happened over the last year. Most people seem to think that we will have a few more weeks of this then they will get their lives back. If they have not woken up by now then they never will.

424959 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to smithey, #1141 of 1640 🔗

I have started to read ‘The 4th Turning’.
It’s always been this way.
But never so unnecessary and for so little im return.

424999 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Mark, 3, #1142 of 1640 🔗

And there is no excuse for making anyone endure ”lonely incarceration in ICU” – it’s the casual acceptance of this cruelty as part and parcel of this appalling state of affairs that is the most shocking.

425186 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Mark, #1143 of 1640 🔗

I agree Mark. I do indeed understand (but disagree with) the point of view which holds the vaccine to be the only practical way out. It’s the damn arrogant insensitivity and, as you put it, “the panicker catastrophism” of Wakefield’s article that infuriated me.

424897 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Steve F, 2, #1144 of 1640 🔗

So off the mark it is untrue, can this stupid woman not think? Boris has held an entire nation prisoner for a year, does she seriously think he will have any reservations about introducing mandatory vaccines and vaccines passports. The nation is already been coerced into taking the vaccine, it is not much of a step to mandatory vaccines and vaccine passports.
As for ‘that world has changed’. No It has not. The government could lift restrictions tomorrow and everything would go back to normal.
‘In the corona era one persons freedom can mean another persons lonely incarnation in icu’. Well frankly that would be far better than the lonely incarnation of the entire nation. What a stupid cowardly comment to make, it’s a good job the soldiers in the first And second world wars did not take such an attitude. Mary Wakefield is clearly happy to sacrifice her freedom in return for a small veneer of safety and as such she deserves neither. You have done right to stop buying the spectator Steve F. I don’t know if there are adverts in the Spectator but if there are please can I suggest you right to the advertisers saying that you will boycotting their products or services and explain why.

425182 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to smithey, #1145 of 1640 🔗

On the basis of the Speccie’s drift toward the pro-vax agenda, I have written to explain why I’m cancelling. In fairness, Wakefield’s view is not necessarily endorsed by the Speccie and Fraser Nelson has been fairly critical of Govt. policy in the past. Plus, our very own Toby Young writes for, and is an associate editor of, the Spectator. Maybe Mary Wakefield is employed to be contrary but I’ve taken exception with more Speccie articles than usual of late so I’m bailing out. Others might think I’m being over-sensitive. So be it.

424922 ▶▶ Still Got It, replying to Steve F, 8, #1146 of 1640 🔗

Well she can fuck right off for a start.

425158 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Still Got It, #1147 of 1640 🔗

Pretty much what I thought when I read it.

424951 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Steve F, 8, #1148 of 1640 🔗

That is horrific.

Why do these people think that modern humans are so special? Why was none of this necessary in 1918, 1957, 1968? During the terrible times of polio, smallpox and diphtheria? Because those people just got on with it, that’s why. But people now are just too bloody wet and full of a sense of their own importance. It’s enraging.

424767 Silke David, replying to Silke David, 12, #1149 of 1640 🔗

I am fuming
Schleswig-Holstein, the country in the far north of Germany, which had in general quite low + tests, is letting primary school children back from Monday (except for some areas with high numbers, eg Flensburg which has the British variant and has just had restrictions tightened), but only with an all day surgical mask wearing mandate. For 6 -10 year olds!

Makes me happy that my 8y old niece lives in area where they are not allowed to go to school yet.

Oh, and they have a Schnupfenplan, which sounds very much like Stufenplan.
 Schnupfen is a runny nose, Stufenplan in this case means tiered system, for re-opening schools. Meaning if children have certain sickness symptoms they should not come to school. Funny that a runny nose is not one of the symptoms!!

424816 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Silke David, 8, #1150 of 1640 🔗

Masks on kids of all ages have been mandatory here since school sort of returned in September. Child abuse, plain and simple.

424954 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #1151 of 1640 🔗

The ones to hang for that are in order: politicians mandating it, heads of the doctors associations defending it and clamping down on doctors who issue medical exemptions, doctors not issuing medical exemptions, judges/prosecutors/headmasters not accepting exemptions and prosecuting or discriminatin those children and doctors insteads, headmasters/teachers executing these inhumane mandates, parents not standing up against them and the abuse of their children.

425032 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, #1152 of 1640 🔗

When you consider how many instances there are now of bacterial pneumonia, it surely IS child abuse.
I’m appalled that Canada has allowed itself to become so in thrall to this kind of thing – far more so than America, it’s always been the Land of the Free.

424940 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Silke David, 2, #1153 of 1640 🔗

Reminds me more of the Schlieffen Plan…

425021 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Silke David, 1, #1154 of 1640 🔗

As yet, here in England my 5-yr-old isn’t required to wear a mask in school. The moment she is, she’s not going. End of.

425054 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Silke David, #1155 of 1640 🔗

”The British variant” – what a load of utter manipulative tosh! Why even quote it?

This is disgusting stuff, making children wear muzzles, when it’s known they do such harm. If I had children of school age, they would NOT wear anything on their face. Ever.

424770 Andy C, replying to Andy C, 18, #1156 of 1640 🔗

I’m not having a good day with the soul-crushing loneliness and isolation today. Any news about when I can have something to look forward to other than looking forward to having something to look forward to?

424778 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Andy C, 5, #1157 of 1640 🔗

You could try getting in touch with people in your area via the forums here or by joining the Great Reopening groups in your area on Telegram.

424938 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Cranmer, #1158 of 1640 🔗

The GO has about 3000 messages per day. Sorry, but that’s too much, even for me.

425026 ▶▶▶▶ HoMojo, replying to JayBee, 1, #1159 of 1640 🔗

The GO never happened last time, why do people think it will this time? Don’t get me wrong, I’m optimistic but I don’t see us going the way of the Italians and their non-compliance. We have a much nastier police force at the moment: ironic, where is Dixon of Dock Green when you need him?

424845 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Andy C, 10, #1160 of 1640 🔗

Look forward to better weather so’s you can go out and about and exchange smiles and gossip with other human beings. There are lots of them out there.Make a beeline for dog walkers.
Meanwhile, hot drink (or alcoholic drink if you prefer), favourite book or music, chocolate.

425077 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Annie, #1161 of 1640 🔗

This is what we should be spreading far and wide, on notice boards, car windscreens, etc. From voicesforfreedom.co.nz – the day the people stood up.


424859 ▶▶ EllGee, replying to Andy C, 19, #1162 of 1640 🔗

Is there anybody you can talk to? Went to see a friend today who lives 90 minutes away, across a county boundary. Been going to see them every month since all this rubbish began. Today though was different. Suddenly there was five of us. My friend knows my views and she is probably sceptic. A few months ago she certainly wasn’t but things have changed. Today it was the equivalent of an AA meeting….my name is and I’m…
It was incredible. My friend said she had no idea how sceptical two of the people were. One had been invited because she knew they were lonely and I “wasn’t stupid about things”.

Three of the five had refused the vaccine. Two hadn’t but that was their choice, they weren’t judged. There was a fireman (refused). Somebody who worked at the local airbase. They’d had to have it for work but the lateral flow test they were supposed to do every week went straight into the bin and he was the team leader. A retired lawyer (refused). My friend being of very mature age had decided to take it and Moi-thank you but no. There was hand-shaking, hugging, talking and copious amounts of cake eaten.

There are more of us around than many believe. If you don’t have somebody you think you can talk to indoors, talk to them outside. We are out there!

425068 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to EllGee, 2, #1163 of 1640 🔗

Sometimes you find allies when you least expect it. A long background story which I won’t bore everyone with, but I met up the other day with a guy who I knew to be ‘one of us’. I didn’t know him well but as I now distribute copies of The Light newspaper I found out where he lived and took a copy round to him. Turned out he is a hairdresser (lots of clients) so he offered to have more copies to give to people who might be interested.

I went round yesterday to drop off the batch of copies. He immediately pointed me to a transit van parked up nearby and said it was a visiting window cleaner who was a committed anti-lockdowner. “He comes in for a cup of tea and we have a good chat about things. I’ll give him a copy of the paper.” I feel sure that when people learn they are not alone it actually succeeds in empowering people to ‘up the ante’. I know it works for me.

424952 ▶▶ Bill Grates, replying to Andy C, 3, #1164 of 1640 🔗

If you use social media try telegram parler and has just re launched lots of angry resistance refuseniks out there.
Don’t expect rapid improvements we have the whole weight of the governing machinery bearing down on us.
Most people don’t realise what’s going on, this is going to take some turning round. But my guess is they are very worried and that’s why all the media etc are piling on the pressure.
The next few weeks/months are crucial, their desired objectives way well slip through their fingers if enough people simply don’t play ball.

Remember that the psychological techniques being used are to make the majority feel like the minority by attacking their beliefs from both sides at once.
We are being attached by the agent provocateur of the globalist in the form of the wokery groups and by the infiltrators in the civic institutions especially media trying to undermine our beliefs from above .

Remember they are the minority, we surround them , most people don’t support the globalising international marxist socialist agenda.

stay positive get your head in the fight .

424771 niko, replying to niko, 15, #1165 of 1640 🔗

It’s just one of the many signs of the real sickness of fascism across the world that children are targeted for ‘special treatment’ by the biosecurity state. Proof once again that the primary purveyor of terror and torture is Leviathan. First you get the children under compulsory schooling for compulsory wage slavery in adulthood, then before long you’ve got docile students of social engineering now subject to being the first casualties of Frankenscience aimed at other ‘vulnerable’ populations on the ‘front lines’ of the war against humanity. The care of the corporate state is coming after all of us. ‘Lockdown’ is time for our last lessons in austerity, so that we may be properly disciplined for what Doktor Bill Gates has announced as the “final solution.”

425019 ▶▶ HoMojo, replying to niko, #1166 of 1640 🔗

There’s not that many countries in lockdown anymore and I think people exaggerate Bill Gates’s reach. It’s easy too say no. To the lot of ’em.

424775 Cranmer, replying to Cranmer, 38, #1167 of 1640 🔗

I may be a little optimistic, but to put this in WW2 terms, it feels like we’ve got through the Ardennes counter-offensive. The lockdownistas seem to be on the back foot; more and more anti-lockdown headlines in the tabloids; test rates falling; more and more lockdown parties in the news, Welsh and Scots schools going back and now the Volkssturm (Track and Trace) being stood down.

Note that I don’t include the Great Leader’s ‘roadmap’ BS in this. I still don’t trust that for a minute. But there are more and more signs that he is backed into a corner; the more official ‘roadmap’ nonsense there is the easier it is to cross-reference this against any future betrayals and moving of goalposts.

Hold the line at all costs, everybody.

424798 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Cranmer, 16, #1168 of 1640 🔗

Absolutely, now is not the time to let our guard down.

424872 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Cranmer, 5, #1169 of 1640 🔗

I have long felt this is a ball they cannot keep in the air forever. Spring, now just a few weeks away, is going to create expectations that I do not feel the government can frustrate.

424911 ▶▶ Bill Grates, replying to Cranmer, 2, #1170 of 1640 🔗

This isn’t the end, it isn’t even the beginning of the end it may be the end of the beginning
Personally it looks more like a war of attrition, the govts trying to grind down moral and independent will.
The only way we can mount a counter offensive is by plugging away at covid zealots and the brainwashed masses and try to retake the mental battle ground one inch at a time.

424934 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Bill Grates, 3, #1171 of 1640 🔗

IMO, this is 1941 in France, the earliest.

424950 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to JayBee, 1, #1172 of 1640 🔗

Yes, but I hope we fast forward to March 1945.

Boost the numbers for THE GREAT REOPENING 20TH MARCH

424966 ▶▶▶▶ Bill Grates, replying to JayBee, 2, #1173 of 1640 🔗

Yes , most people don’t realise that our civic institutions have basically declared war on us .(across the world)
We need to identify the “enemy” and their objectives which thankfully many on here are now waking up to. Then we can counter ..
Our D day may come but for now we need to wake as many people as possible to the realities of the situation.
Why should we allow these few people these megalomaniac idealists with their fake solutions change our lives just because they think we are unworthy scum.

424939 ▶▶ Christopher, replying to Cranmer, #1174 of 1640 🔗

I’d say it’s more like El Alamein .

424783 GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 6, #1175 of 1640 🔗

Former Prime Minister Miranda Blair has told Boris Johnson not to drop tiered coronavirus measures after the end of lockdown, publishing a report calling for the country to revert to a five-level traffic light system:


424788 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 16, #1176 of 1640 🔗

Yes, one of Blair’s familiars in human form was on Talk Radio today attempting to beguile the listeners like a certain reptile in a certain garden long ago. Julia Hartley Brewer sent him packing.

424802 ▶▶ suitejb, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 13, #1177 of 1640 🔗

I was just thinking today that the tiered period from October to December was the worst. The tiers were random and whole counties were on the highest tier because of one small area. The rules were forever changing, always to more restrictions and the fiasco of Christmas was unforgivable. No one knew where they were. Whatever happens next it’s got to be across the board, everywhere the same. Preferably open.

424943 ▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to suitejb, 5, #1178 of 1640 🔗

I’m with you there. It was awful. And those poor places that were just permanently in Tier 4 or equivalent, all summer. Parts of the country will just be consigned to the dustbin. Eventually everyone will move away due to the permanent state of lockdown.

425017 ▶▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to A. Contrarian, #1179 of 1640 🔗

Forcing plebes into hive cities is part of the plan.

Easier to get them on UBI, track them, and then detain them if necessary.

425089 ▶▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to suitejb, #1180 of 1640 🔗

yes and very divisive between people in different areas. I go camping and omg some twats posting pics of being away etc knowing that over half the country were banged up at home; and all the rules if you’re in a tier x you cannot come here etc – was dreadful.
All country should be back to normal, no ifs and buts – those who are still petrified can stay at home, their choice and let the country get back to some sanity.

424866 ▶▶ smithey, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 4, #1181 of 1640 🔗

Why is Blair suddenly hitting the airwaves with a vengeance? What is in it for him? He does not do ought for nought

424881 ▶▶▶ Marialta, replying to smithey, 2, #1182 of 1640 🔗

Likes sound of his own voice

424918 ▶▶▶ PW, replying to smithey, 2, #1183 of 1640 🔗

Is his son involved in vaccine passports?

424929 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to smithey, 1, #1184 of 1640 🔗


424930 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to smithey, 4, #1185 of 1640 🔗

The Blair Foundation for Global Change advertises on the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation website, bit of a connection, Tony & Bill/Bill & Tony

424942 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to DanClarke, 3, #1186 of 1640 🔗

And The Bliar Foundation has had a shitload of cash from Bill.

424948 ▶▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to Ceriain, 2, #1187 of 1640 🔗

Ah, that will explain it then!
Good to see the MSM outlets declaring this fact at the start of ever Blair interview!

425047 ▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to smithey, 2, #1188 of 1640 🔗

He keeps coming back for no apparent reason, like Nick Cotton in ‘Eastenders’ and just like with him you know it means trouble.

425076 ▶▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to Cranmer, 1, #1189 of 1640 🔗

Didn’t he get killed eventually

425108 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to smithey, #1190 of 1640 🔗


424786 alw, replying to alw, 22, #1191 of 1640 🔗

Torygraph full on pushing vaccine passports. What about people who cannot have vaccine which is not suitable for those who have certain medical conditions? Black market here we come.

Heard from a friend who works at a private school, that teachers refusing quite rightly to test pupils.

Also heard that they are so desperate to give away vaccine that a healthy 39 year old has just been given.

424799 ▶▶ Liberty, replying to alw, 8, #1192 of 1640 🔗

In Israel they are giving out vaccines to the young along with a non alcoholic chaser as a motivator. Israel are the first to be using vaccine passports. We need to watch them, as we may well be following in their footsteps. Andy Burnham is trying to persuade the young people locally to come forward for their vaccine to save any vaccines being wasted. Why are they pushing this on the young? Because vaccine passports will only works if enough people are vaccinated.

424794 awildgoose, replying to awildgoose, 4, #1195 of 1640 🔗

John Hopkins, home of the Beer Flu fear porn death map predicts US herd immunity in April 2022:


424936 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to awildgoose, 3, #1196 of 1640 🔗

Fauci is either suffering from Dementia, i.e. can’t remember what he said yesterday, or he’s just taking the piss.

424796 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 43, #1197 of 1640 🔗

We have a replacement Marshall in town, myself and the Bro’s are preparing to give him a warm and friendly welcome…

424801 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 18, #1198 of 1640 🔗

We have a replacement Marshall in town

What happens when you see him? Do you say, Why, a Twerp!

I’ll get my coat.

424834 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 7, #1199 of 1640 🔗

God help him (or not!)

424857 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Jo, 9, #1200 of 1640 🔗

God has already deserted our dear Marshall..

424841 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 8, #1201 of 1640 🔗

No wheels on my wagon,
And I’m not rolling along……..

424849 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Richy_m_99, 8, #1202 of 1640 🔗

Never mind his wagon; it looks like the wheels are falling off the vaccination campaign. They’re supposedly offering it to anyone who wants it now.

424853 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Richy_m_99, 6, #1203 of 1640 🔗

The New Christy Minstrels great song.

424906 ▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 5, #1204 of 1640 🔗

Wasn’t Barry McGuire (Eve of destruction) an ex New Christy minstrel?

424914 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Fingerache Philip, 5, #1205 of 1640 🔗

He certainly was another good tune..

424926 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Fingerache Philip, 4, #1206 of 1640 🔗

Good shout, FP. Kenny Rogers (of Ruby fame) too, I believe.

424870 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to Bruce Reynolds, #1207 of 1640 🔗

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a Replacement Marshall ?

We haven’t got one, I assume that’s good

424883 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Lindy, 15, #1208 of 1640 🔗

Well unfortunately the first Marshall had some problems with a bunch of what can only be described as hoodlums,they made his life a misery and he resigned his position..He has now been replaced hence replacement Marshall..

424898 ▶▶▶▶ Lindy, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 4, #1209 of 1640 🔗

DoH. I thought you had something special. We don’t have an original but if they keep hoodlums occupied they are performing an important public service

424916 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Lindy, 5, #1210 of 1640 🔗

Bruce, further explanation is required, methinks. 😉

424931 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to Ceriain, 7, #1211 of 1640 🔗

I’ll leave that one to you 😜 .

424831 ▶▶ Jo, replying to Tom Blackburn, 3, #1213 of 1640 🔗

Why can’t the MHRA just report the numbers in a table, like they do in the US?
All this preamble and justification, to obfuscate.

424837 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #1215 of 1640 🔗

That’s a whole bunch of excuses and arse covering right there!

425004 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #1216 of 1640 🔗

Don’t ask me.

425057 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Two-Six, #1217 of 1640 🔗

Sound advice, T-S. 😉

425121 ▶▶ Dan L, replying to Tom Blackburn, #1218 of 1640 🔗

I get a different answer but can’t vouch for my maths either. Here’s my working: Taking all three reports (for Pfizer, Astrazenica and other) there were 193 deaths. The reports are weekly so this is out of 3 million doses. I make it (an official) 1 in 15,500 chance of death from the vaccine.

424805 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 28, #1219 of 1640 🔗

It would appear that the vaccine is now being offered to all and sundry, as opposed to the over 40s, (as reported in the Daily Mail) .

Does this suggest they have started to hit a wall? and that refusals are mounting up?

424807 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Ceriain, 16, #1220 of 1640 🔗

God I really really hope so

424839 ▶▶ Scouse Sceptic, replying to Ceriain, 8, #1221 of 1640 🔗

I’ve noticed this too, Mother & Father Sceptic who are both late 50’s (zero risks, health issues, etc) have had their jabs yesterday.

We’ll ignore the fact they accepted the jab of course, each to their own and all that. But it’s interesting how people in their 50’s are now being jabbed.

424848 ▶▶ smithey, replying to Ceriain, 8, #1222 of 1640 🔗

I’m seeing lots of people In their thirties and forties gleefully posting on Facebook that they have had the vaccine. One chap even proudly posted a photo of the document he was shown before receiving the vaccine stating that it does not yet have advertising authorisation. The dark side of me would love to see how these people react if a horrific side affect of the vaccine is discovered in the next few months.

424921 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to smithey, 4, #1223 of 1640 🔗

Millennial Snowflakes are all-in and the the main drivers of these scams.
I am saying since 15 years that this pseudo ‘Hero’ generation will be our downfall.

424854 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Ceriain, 10, #1224 of 1640 🔗

My missus works at a hospital and informs leftover vaccines are offered out like cups of tea to anyone who wants one at the end of each shift.

424913 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1225 of 1640 🔗

The shortage was a fabricated myth to establish and increase desirability.
Marketing 101.
Perfected by Rolex and Hermés.
When my wife hears the word waitlist, I know I am in big trouble.

424970 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to JayBee, 3, #1226 of 1640 🔗

The shortage was a fabricated myth to establish and increase desirability.
Marketing 101.

Yup! All planned.

424976 ▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to JayBee, 1, #1227 of 1640 🔗

Made into an artform by De Beers.

Gee…. I wonder if there’s anywhere around here I can get a load of carbon and a shit ton of pressure?

425156 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to JayBee, 2, #1228 of 1640 🔗

Yup! exactly. like when a car manufacturer talks about ‘limited edition’. Only made, what – 200 million of these. ‘Limited’ to the amount of stuff we can flog. that’s what they mean 🙂

424935 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Ceriain, 5, #1229 of 1640 🔗

Oh cr*p, I’m only just 40 and thought I would be safe from being hassled by my GP for quite some time yet!

425007 ▶▶ Ovis, replying to Ceriain, 6, #1230 of 1640 🔗

So far all the people I talk with of old middle age are taking it 🙁 This includes my parents.

But all the people I know socially of my age (30s) and younger are against and will not have it.

I will not have it under any circumstances, if only because I will not help to get the regime off the hook of its own guilt for lockdown. But also because I do not trust it at all and would rather take my chances with the Rona as she comes.

I do not know, of course, how representative my experience may be.

425044 ▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Ceriain, 3, #1231 of 1640 🔗

Do they simply want to get as many people vaccinated as possible whilst the “vaccines” are subject to temporary authorisation (12 months, I think)? Otherwise, what happens if for some reason the authorisation is withdrawn?

425149 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Ceriain, 1, #1232 of 1640 🔗

Well it’d be irresponsible to go to the vaccine centres and/or GP’s surgery now wouldn’t it? after all if you walk down the street, people outside are spreading covid all over the place without knowing it.. covid particles all over the place, trails of goo wherever they go, presumably like something out of Ghostbusters.

424814 PastImperfect, 32, #1234 of 1640 🔗

Stop Identity Theft

424818 ColoradoGirl, 2, #1235 of 1640 🔗
424819 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 26, #1236 of 1640 🔗

Be careful what you flush – lives could depend on it.

424821 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to godowneasy, 1, #1237 of 1640 🔗

My compliments. 🙂

424830 ▶▶ mj, replying to godowneasy, 8, #1238 of 1640 🔗

that is one hell of an anal swab

424823 Jo, 4, #1239 of 1640 🔗


This would be funny if it weren’t so serious.

In the most draconian move ever, all Australian stories are banned from being shared on Facebook, whether inside or outside of the ‘down under’ state. This could result in a PR nightmare as other states are now lining up to tackle Facebook’s out-of-control megalomanic lust for control.

Do others think they might be shooting themselves in the foot?

424827 DJ Dod, replying to DJ Dod, 7, #1240 of 1640 🔗

Behind a paywall, but Der Spiegel reports ethical concerns over the UK’s Covid Human Challenge study:

‘Young, healthy women are putting themselves at risk to save old mens’ lives’


424838 ▶▶ smithey, replying to DJ Dod, 9, #1241 of 1640 🔗

That’s been par for the course throughout ‘this pandemic’. The young are been made to sacrifice their futures so that selfish old people can eek out another year or two at the end of very long and prosperous lives.

424909 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to smithey, #1242 of 1640 🔗

BS. The young (millennials but elder Z too) in particular want it and are the most zealous mask wearers, zero Covidians, lockdowners, anti-liberty amd anti- individualists.
Read ‘The 4th Turning’ and you will start to understand.

424941 ▶▶▶▶ smithey, replying to JayBee, 4, #1243 of 1640 🔗

Thanks I will look that up. I think the vast majority of millennials do not have the critical thinking skills to understand what is going on, that does not alter the fact their futures are been destroyed to save the old, which is the purpose of lockdowns at face value at least. I will read the 4th Turning though

424905 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to DJ Dod, 2, #1244 of 1640 🔗

It’s setting old men against young women, but it raises a good point. Why has it been all about saving granny, when it’s been grandad who was most at risk?

425260 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to PoshPanic, #1245 of 1640 🔗

It’s setting old men against young women …

As an old man, I’m fully in favour of being set against young women.

424925 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to DJ Dod, #1246 of 1640 🔗

But if young healthy women are indeed at risk from doing this, then surely they are doing it to save young healthy women’s lives? Either that or they’re not actually at risk…

424828 Freddy Boy, 3, #1247 of 1640 🔗

Have a look a piece by John Ward on The Slog ( corporate string pullers) from yesterday + read the comments 👍

424836 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 43, #1248 of 1640 🔗

It finally happened, as I knew it would. Not sure if I let myself down, or not.

Had a swerver (mid 40’s, masked) who stepped behind a tree to avoid me on the pavement. She didn’t walk round it; she stood behind it, peeking out.

I couldn’t help myself. I had to do something! 😉

424944 ▶▶ Winston Smith, replying to Ceriain, 5, #1249 of 1640 🔗

👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

425256 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Ceriain, 1, #1250 of 1640 🔗

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

424850 Fear is Finite, replying to Fear is Finite, 6, #1251 of 1640 🔗

Today’s Irreverend podcast is very good, lots of admirable ranting that I can fully relate to. About 29 minutes in they read out a comment from Bob Moran about Tony Blair and the terrible flu epidemic of 1999/2000. Burn! Blair really needs to crawl back under his rock.

424873 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Fear is Finite, 1, #1252 of 1640 🔗

To link, copy URL from address bar, then paste text in comment box, highlight text with cursor (hold left button down and move cursor along) then hover cursor over chain (link) icon, & click, paste URL (from address bar in box) you’re done.

Just saying (for anyone that doesn’t know).

424886 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Fear is Finite, 6, #1253 of 1640 🔗

Yes, they are great.
One of them makes the excellent and appalling point that never again will we be able to berate totalitarian regimes from a position of moral superiority, because there is no totalitarian outrage that has not been committed by this government.

424903 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Annie, 5, #1254 of 1640 🔗

What I am saying since March, in particular with regard to the EU: zero right to criticize Hungary/Poland in that regard anymore.
Inversely, I have shunned Turkey since 2016 because of Erdogan’s coup, but relatively, there is now no reason to do so anymore.
And if you stayed away from the US because of Trump, which I also tried to do, you should run away from dictators Biden/Harris USA even faster.

425254 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to JayBee, #1255 of 1640 🔗

And if you stayed away from the US because of Trump, which I also tried to do …

Really ? My money would be on outstanding warrants …

425251 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Annie, #1256 of 1640 🔗

I’d agree with you Annie, if they hadn’t harvested my brain last week …

424855 isobar, replying to isobar, 12, #1257 of 1640 🔗

Experts believe UK will be ‘a lot more normal’ by May even if Boris Johnson adopts a cautious roadmap for easing rules as ministers admit they cannot guarantee this will be the last lockdown and PM prepares for crunch weekend to finalise blueprint

A repost from earlier, check out the Best rated comment. Things are (I hope) changing!

‘Normality to this clown Is a lot different than the rest of us. Lockdowns destroy lives.’ 958 upticks 35 downticks

Clown refers to the views of Professor Fergoturd

424917 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 5, #1258 of 1640 🔗

Significant normality (I would argue that normality is either full normality or can’t be called normality at all, but there you are) is always, always just those few short weeks away.

If this is true, why have they just extended furlough through the summer?

425016 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to isobar, #1259 of 1640 🔗

No, no, no. Johnson is allowing himself too much wriggle room. This is simply ‘enough’ to keep Tory rebels onside. We all know what a Johnson promise is worth.

425025 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Bugle, #1260 of 1640 🔗

You may have misunderstood me , I meant things might be changing in the views of the public

425035 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to isobar, #1261 of 1640 🔗

Yes, Johnson’s ‘roadmap’ is about as useful as a 1977 road atlas covered in mildew. The only good thing about it is when he doesn’t keep to it it might, just might, cause a few more sheeple to wake up to what’s going on.

425132 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to isobar, #1262 of 1640 🔗

No offence meant. My reaction was to “experts”, not your comment.

425095 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to isobar, 2, #1263 of 1640 🔗

There will be no more normal, because 95% of people have revealed themselves to be conformists, cowards and imbeciles, and I’ll never again give them the benefit of the doubt on anything.

424856 Lowe, replying to Lowe, 10, #1264 of 1640 🔗

A certain irony that Radio 3 are currently broadcasting Siegfried as part of their Ring cycle. A story about a hero must be lost on the BBC and government ministers when they encourage people to cower at home behind their masks, washing their hands repeatedly with hand sanitisers, fearfully avoiding meeting anyone lest they suffer any harm.

Meanwhile, I learn that a local care-worker is planning returning to Brazil. She is fed up that she is not able to get outside in the evening. It seems life is better in Brazil!

And finally, does anyone else think the pictures from the NASA Perseverance lander could just as easily show a view of post-lockdown Britain?

Back to Siegfried

424884 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Lowe, 4, #1265 of 1640 🔗

And finally, does anyone else think the pictures from the NASA Perseverance lander could just as easily show a view of post-lockdown Britain?

Talking of Perseverance…

424862 WillieA, replying to WillieA, 38, #1266 of 1640 🔗

For the first time since the mask mandate was brought in sometime during the summer, the number of massless shoppers that I counted in my local (big) Sainsbury’s earlier was in double figures. This is a store in which I have frequently been the sole massless shopper during previous visits.

Is the tide starting to turn?

424871 ▶▶ The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to WillieA, 13, #1267 of 1640 🔗

I thought the same in Beverley town centre the other day. A significant increase in the number of exempt lanyards.

424875 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to WillieA, 6, #1268 of 1640 🔗

Maybe the vaccinated are making their own (and correct) decisions. ?

424885 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to WillieA, 7, #1269 of 1640 🔗

Sadly, Waitrose still masked up as usual this morning.. However, the young, cheery checkout clerk was maskless.

424889 ▶▶ ColoradoGirl, replying to WillieA, 3, #1270 of 1640 🔗

Glad to hear this!

424912 ▶▶ WillieA, replying to WillieA, 3, #1271 of 1640 🔗

I of course mean ‘maskless’ – damn autocorrect!

424869 Richardm, replying to Richardm, 8, #1272 of 1640 🔗

Just heard on the grapevine furlough being extended beyond summer – good source 80% confidence. Anticipate lockdown will follow.

424878 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Richardm, 7, #1273 of 1640 🔗

Just heard on the grapevine furlough being extended beyond summer

Daily Mail and Liam Halligan at the Telegraph reckon the same thing.

424947 ▶▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to Ceriain, 1, #1274 of 1640 🔗

The Scottish ‘Government’ seems to be planning to keep restrictions in place until September.

424975 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to DJ Dod, #1275 of 1640 🔗

Bloody Hell!

425067 ▶▶▶▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to Ceriain, 1, #1276 of 1640 🔗

‘As the pandemic is not yet over, regrettably, consideration must shortly be given to whether some provisions of the Acts will require to be needed beyond 31 March 2021. Ministers are now conducting the analysis necessary to determine whether specific provisions should be expired, suspended or extended. Following this, if supported by the evidence, regulations will be brought forward seeking the Scottish Parliament’s agreement to extend the expiry dates of the Scottish Coronavirus Acts up to 30 September 2021. A Statement of Reasons providing information on any provisions recommended for extension will also be laid before Parliament.’


425074 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to DJ Dod, #1277 of 1640 🔗

Shit! Coming soon to Westmonster

425192 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to DJ Dod, #1278 of 1640 🔗

Thanks for coming back with that. Nightmare in Krankieland.

425206 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to DJ Dod, #1279 of 1640 🔗

If you have a problem… if no one else can help… and if you can find him… maybe Alex Salmond will force her resignation.

We can hope.

425006 ▶▶▶▶ The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to DJ Dod, 2, #1280 of 1640 🔗

Why should Scots take orders from someone who allegedly misled the Scottish Parliament? Of course, alas, many will regardless.

425201 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to DJ Dod, 1, #1281 of 1640 🔗

What do you mean, until September? They ain’t ever going to end! Before the corona act dissolves they will update the public health act. This is the new normal.

424890 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Richardm, 7, #1282 of 1640 🔗

Zero Covid at ct45 + MMT =
Hyperinflation/Currency Reset + Depression

And that’s before the genocide under way in the 3rd world, and before the possibly upcoming one through the medically completely unnecessary experimental gene therapies they are coercing most people into having.

424901 ▶▶ Bill Grates, replying to Richardm, 8, #1283 of 1640 🔗

Of course the handouts will continue, it’s obvious.
How else are they going to keep the masses quite ?
Some people are struggling but so many are either still in work or on 80%paid holiday , that’s the plan.
Only when enough people start to run out of money will significant resistance build, and the govt are hell bent on preventing that , so even though they announce specific end dates for the furlough it will be extended as long as necessary.

424983 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Richardm, 3, #1284 of 1640 🔗

Whatever Johnson announces next week the real news will be the budget at the start of March.Lockdown has followed furlough since November.Its time to hit the streets

425014 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Richardm, 3, #1285 of 1640 🔗

All part of the plan to force people onto UBI.

425100 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Richardm, 4, #1286 of 1640 🔗

Just announced in Canada today that the magic money tree will continue to flower. Like others here, I only believe the sheeple will wake up when the money runs out and that’s not happening here anytime soon.

424876 PastImperfect, 27, #1287 of 1640 🔗

Constitutional DUTY

From Anna De BuiscuitSave Our Rights UK

My view as a senior lawyer: everyone has a Constitutional DUTY to take positive ACTION to stop tyranny from within.
Omitting to ACT is allowing tyranny to continue – unchallenged.
We are a Common Law Jurisdiction: “Do no Harm”.
As soon as one of us sees or knows that harm is being done/caused to another one of us, we each have an INDIVIDUAL duty to take action to stop the harm being done or caused to another.
It is not optional or discretionary.
Failing to act is as guilty as acting to cause harm.
That’s our LAW and DUTY under our UK Common Law jurisdiction.
Remember the Magna Carter, 1215?
And then the Bill of Rights 1688.
Then the Nuremberg Trials and Code, 1945 onwards.
Then the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 1950’s.
Then the European Convention of Human Rights and – finally – our own Human Rights Act 1998.
Under each of these laws – all of which bind each and every one of us – we are each Sovereign in our own right.
All of us are EQUAL under the Rule of Law.
Even the Monarch, the MPs and anyone else who likes to think they are in charge of us all.
No one is Sovereign over any of you.
No one has the legal right to take away your fundamental, inalienable, God given human rights!!
No one.
So start ASSERTING your Sovereignty and stop thinking that anyone else has the right to take yours – or anyone else’s – human rights away from you!!
Stand up and take action to stop tyranny from within : we OWE it to each other to do so!!!
Remember all of our Ancestors who died to allow us our FREEDOM????
Lest we EVER forget!!!

424882 AidanR, replying to AidanR, 29, #1288 of 1640 🔗

Being a reactionary twat, it occurs to me that I’m soon going to have to switch to a fervently pro-lockdown position.

Just as soon as a preponderance of these sheeple scum start to wake up, I’m going to start advocating for permanent lockdown, permanent mask-wearing, mandatory vaccines, mandatory testing before entry into any indoor public place.

These dozy fucks have been the engine of the last 12 months of lunacy that’s been inflicted on everyone, and I’d like them to have an extended experience with it once they have realised what is going in.

Anyone who has previously clapped the NHS or demanded more restrictions, or snitched or fed from the magic money tree. Everytime one of them moans about the restrictions, the tax rises, the job losses, they should be screamed at in the face for being a granny-killing bastard and then kicked in the balls.

425096 ▶▶ jb12, replying to AidanR, #1289 of 1640 🔗

Karens don’t have balls.

424892 Annie, replying to Annie, 49, #1291 of 1640 🔗

I’ve been contemplating the sheer bestial cruelty of our oppressors.

I think ‘bestial’ is the right word. ‘Sadistic’ is wrong because sadists actively enjoy inflicting pain. I don’t think our enemies do, not really. They are like beasts in that the suffering of other living creatures has no meaning for them. A predator bringing down a prey animal and ripping its throat out doesn’t set out to cause terror and inflict pain; it sets out to get a meal, and the sufferings of the prey are simply irrelevant, to be neither courted nor avoided. Similarly, a predator doesn’t discriminate on any grounds except those of expediency. It will go for the old and weak because they are easier to catch. It will go for the young and helpless for the same reason; the anguish of the bereaved parents is wholly irrelevant.

The predator has no positive ill-will towards the victims. But if it could choose to achieve its aim without the cruelty, it wouldn’t bother to make that choice because the cruelty doesn’t matter either way.

Our enemies are worse than the beasts, of course, in that they could choose to avoid the cruelty. You don’t expect animals to show compassion or empathy – despite hopeful stories like ‘Androcles and the Lion’. You can say predatory animals are ‘cruel’, but that’s just expecting animals to behave as we like to think humans behave. What we don’t normally expect is for human beings to so utterly renounce their humanity that they can inflict unlimited pain and anguish not only without the very slightest feeling of remorse, but also without the slightest feeling of satisfaction. They don’t even need to feel that the suffering is necessary. It doesn’t matter to them whether other human beings suffer or not. Any suggestion that they could achieve their aims without making human beings suffer simply doesn’t interest them. You might as well insist that they wear a green shirt rather than a blue one: the difference doesn’t matter. Similarly, why bother to eliminate cruelty when cruelty simply doesn’t matter?
That makes them bestial, but without the excuse of being beasts.

I think I’d rather have a sadist. At least one person in the equation would be getting some satisfaction out of it.

424899 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Annie, 8, #1292 of 1640 🔗

I agree Annie. The blind cruelty of it all is what appals me the most.

424923 ▶▶ Adamb, replying to Annie, 10, #1293 of 1640 🔗

Goodness me, every day I’m amazed and delighted at the quality of some of the comments here, and this is a stellar example!

424933 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Annie, 7, #1294 of 1640 🔗

Fantastic post – respect.

424978 ▶▶ Luckyharry69, replying to Annie, 13, #1295 of 1640 🔗

I’m a simple northern bloke…I just want to punch Johnson’s lights out?……is that OK?………

424981 ▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Luckyharry69, 3, #1296 of 1640 🔗

As a simple northern bloke, I’d say yes. Especially if you go for the double and twonk Hancock as well.

424987 ▶▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to Luckyharry69, 4, #1297 of 1640 🔗

I’m a northern lass, and feel the same way!

424988 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to Luckyharry69, 3, #1298 of 1640 🔗

Join the queue mate

424994 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Luckyharry69, 2, #1299 of 1640 🔗

You bet it us.
My mum was a simple northern lass.

424995 ▶▶▶ gina, replying to Luckyharry69, 2, #1300 of 1640 🔗

Yes it is. My current fantasy runs to assassination with an ice pick in the armpit – though my son says it needs to be under the third rib. 🙂

425116 ▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to gina, 2, #1301 of 1640 🔗

Leon Trotsky style would do for me.

425000 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Luckyharry69, 1, #1302 of 1640 🔗

Fine with me

424997 ▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to Annie, 3, #1303 of 1640 🔗

Great post Annie. You have to look at the way some of the main protagonists treat those nearest (and supposedly dearest) to them to realise they have no regard whatsoever for the citizens of the country and their personal circumstances.

425220 ▶▶ redbirdpete, replying to Annie, 1, #1304 of 1640 🔗

They care about nothing except their own power and position. i honestly think the best thing to do is laugh at them , as we did at Hitler in WW2

424895 Jo Starlin, replying to Jo Starlin, 9, #1305 of 1640 🔗

Anti-Socialist made a good point in reply to an earlier post of mine, in that the fraudulent wanker “libertarian” Johnson/Kemal tried to purchase water cannon when he was Mayor of London. I’d add that his very first action as mayor was to ban alcohol on public transport, something my Georgian namesake would have been wary of.

424900 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to Jo Starlin, 10, #1306 of 1640 🔗

It’s confusion of definitions between libertine (which he at least was) and libertarian (which he most certainly never has been).

425087 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to AidanR, #1307 of 1640 🔗

Fair distinction.

424937 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 6, #1308 of 1640 🔗


Pre-announcement fear mongering graph

424968 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Tom Blackburn, #1309 of 1640 🔗

The Warwick prediction of up to 6000 deaths a day in July will do the job, surely?

424945 A. Contrarian, replying to A. Contrarian, 8, #1310 of 1640 🔗

Just seen a post below that Track and Trace is to be stood down? Is that right? Please let it be so.

424953 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1311 of 1640 🔗

It’s right but don’t know if its true.

424972 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to A. Contrarian, 3, #1312 of 1640 🔗

Replaced with what? Vax ‘n’ shop?

424998 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to PoshPanic, #1313 of 1640 🔗

Vax is a brand of vacuum cleaner. Like Ayds slimming candy, the company might consider changing its name.

425027 ▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to PoshPanic, #1314 of 1640 🔗

Fred Karno’s Army?

425058 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to A. Contrarian, #1315 of 1640 🔗

I didn’t realize it was still a thing. I wonder how many people still have the app on their phone.

425293 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1316 of 1640 🔗

Rebranded. That infrastructure was never meant for what they said it was built for.

It’ll just be used to Track now

424946 Julian, replying to Julian, 7, #1317 of 1640 🔗

Jordan Peterson’s daughter Mikhaila is pretty strongly anti-lockdown

She seems to have a reasonable following on YT


425038 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Julian, 2, #1318 of 1640 🔗

Yeah, Peterson is the most overrated ‘public intellectual’ I’ve ever known.

He has said nothing about the vaccines and the coming Pharmaceutical Totalitarian State and is not a scientist as he knows bugger all.

As for the lockdown, it is merely an instrument to DELIVER THE VACCCINE.

People need to stop going on about the lockdowns.

The economy is finished and is being reset, folks, to a social credit system for those who are not part of the 1 per cent.

425061 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to FedupofLies, -3, #1319 of 1640 🔗

I never got on with JP, he is one of the most dull commentators I’ve had the displeasure to encounter & I’ve encountered many & his voice grates like fingernails on a black board.

425118 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #1320 of 1640 🔗

LOL that hit a nerve.

425092 ▶▶▶ jb12, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #1321 of 1640 🔗

So because he does not think the things you do, he is not an intellectual? I have to say, I am not either because I think most of what you say is the gibbering of a raving lunatic – and I am someone who thinks the virus is a means to an end.

425147 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to jb12, -1, #1322 of 1640 🔗

What in particular do you disagree with ?

The nanotechnologies thing linking people up to the social credit cloud is actually true.

425161 ▶▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to FedupofLies, #1323 of 1640 🔗

It is more the tone than the content, but it doesn’t matter. I responded to you like a dickhead, so i apologise.

425123 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #1324 of 1640 🔗

He’s been very ill.

425292 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Bugle, 1, #1325 of 1640 🔗

He’s had severe illness for years, gastro issues, but had been managing well. Sorry to hear that. I think he has been an important voice and woken many people up to the kind of creeping cancel culture and how it is by design

424962 GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 12, #1326 of 1640 🔗

Meet Howard Temin, geneticist and virologist:


In 60s, Temin created a series of experiments that showed RNA could go against the typically expected flow of information. He demonstrated that it was entirely possible for RNA to rewrite DNA code. He was initially ridiculed for this assertion, yet went on to win the Nobel Prize for his work. What he was describing was reverse transcriptase, the very mechanism that the HIV virus uses to hijack an infected cell’s DNA. It is also the mechanism used in RT-PCR testing.

Just a little food for thought on a Friday evening.

425012 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 4, #1327 of 1640 🔗

And they keep trying to tell us the mRNA jabs don’t alter our genetics…

425034 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to awildgoose, 5, #1328 of 1640 🔗

I would have to locate the technical details, but it is to make people legally owned by Gates and his friends once they have taken the vaccine. NO RIGHTS! In other words. They can do what they want with you and probably take your property.

424963 PoshPanic, replying to PoshPanic, 14, #1329 of 1640 🔗

Businesses destroyed in horrific numbers. Like we didn’t already know this. But the news will just keep retelling the success stories.. Oh yeah and Wancock is guilty as F..


424984 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to PoshPanic, 11, #1330 of 1640 🔗

So many people don’t get you cant just mothball a business and magically go back to normal once this is over. Many businesses are now saddled with massive debt, even once they open they may only last a few more months with the impending recession. I really despair of this government, but thank goodness for people like Sir Desmond who get it.

425190 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to liztr835, 3, #1331 of 1640 🔗

Gates’ man-faced wife is on video chortling about how, “…we didn’t really think through the consequences for small businesses.”

425106 ▶▶ isobar, replying to PoshPanic, 5, #1332 of 1640 🔗

Not just Wancock, Bozo, Twitty, Unbalanced and Sage. Plus the vast majority of MPs. We, the British people have been completely fucked over. But I do think that people are beginning to realise that, well at least I hope so.

424977 Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, 5, #1333 of 1640 🔗

I do so hope we have some senior brainpower somewhere in the Treasury and Bank of England, because if he wasn’t already aware, or perhaps doesn’t quite understand, Mr Sunak needs to be given a crash course in crisis banking.10 year Gilt yields are going exponential:
United Kingdom Government Bond 10Y | 1980-2021 Data | 2022-2023 Forecast | Quote (tradingeconomics.com)

424985 ▶▶ Bill Grates, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, 6, #1334 of 1640 🔗

The brainpower is brainwashed, we are governed by a clique of MMT zealots. It’s world wide so they think it won’t be the same as before .

There’s loads of info on the plan at the IMF and World Bank BSI etc
It’s a massive redistribution of wealth and assets from the bottom to the top ie the global financial institutions , all brought about by debt forgiveness., currency debasement and on to central bank created crypo.

This is the financial side of the great reaset.

424986 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, 4, #1335 of 1640 🔗

The plan is to engineer a crash.That much is obvious now

425008 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to jonathan Palmer, #1336 of 1640 🔗

“Pull it.”

425011 ▶▶▶▶ popo says, replying to awildgoose, 1, #1337 of 1640 🔗

It’s got Silverstein bells on it?

425009 ▶▶▶ popo says, replying to jonathan Palmer, 2, #1338 of 1640 🔗

They stole that plot from Ridley Scott surely?

424996 ▶▶ TJN, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, 3, #1339 of 1640 🔗

Interesting. I’m not at all trained in economics, but I’d guess that the bond markets will be the harbingers of the covid economics hitting the wall – even before inflation becomes apparent.

If you look at it on a 5-year graph it the recent movement doesn’t seem much – but government base debt is far, far higher now, making the whole edifice much more vulnerable to comparatively small rises in interest rates.


And it surely can’t be long before we see signs of creeping inflation.

Sunak is far more intelligent than Hancock, and it may well be that Sunak’s hand will be called soon.

425041 ▶▶▶ Tyneside Tigress 2021, replying to TJN, 2, #1340 of 1640 🔗

Unfortunately, despite his intelligence, he is pretty weak – certainly not leadership material. Regarding yields, while they are on the floor by historic standards, the rate of change is worrying. The pattern is the same in all major debt markets but is significantly sharper in the UK.

425073 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Tyneside Tigress 2021, 3, #1341 of 1640 🔗

Yes, I agree – he’s not leadership material. There doesn’t seem to be any steel in him.

You’re right of course that it is rate of change which tells the story.

Curiously, this rise started in late January, undeterred by the UK’s covid vaccine ‘success’. Perhaps the markets have sussed the politics.

Numbers are stubborn things, especially when they have pound note signs in front of them. Leadership material or not, Sunak knows that.

Taking Annie’s advice from earlier (ta if you’re reading), and off for whisky and chocolate now. I was going to resist, but can’t now.

424982 Laura Suckling, replying to Laura Suckling, 6, #1342 of 1640 🔗

The world has truly gone mad, or I have. I now agree with Peter Hitchens and Russel Brand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg0c2x74mgU .

424989 ▶▶ Melangell, replying to Laura Suckling, #1343 of 1640 🔗

The link goes to RB on farmers in India – did you mean to link to one on lockdowns?

424993 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Melangell, #1344 of 1640 🔗

That’s the Valium’s fault.

425024 ▶▶▶▶ Laura Suckling, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #1345 of 1640 🔗

That is a substance I need at the moment, please post your supplier’s details – I’m only half serious.

425010 ▶▶▶ Laura Suckling, replying to Melangell, 2, #1346 of 1640 🔗

Yes, in this video he’s talking about globalism but others are more about lockdown.

424992 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Laura Suckling, #1347 of 1640 🔗

I’ve heard certain rumours about the latter & Hitchens is an antidote to euphoria, he’ll drive anyone to Valium or a noose. You have my sympathy.

425001 ▶▶▶ The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to Anti_socialist, #1348 of 1640 🔗

What rumours might these be?!

425031 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, #1349 of 1640 🔗

Defamation laws, I’ll have to take it to my grave with me.

425033 ▶▶▶▶▶ Laura Suckling, replying to Anti_socialist, #1350 of 1640 🔗

Please share, you are amongst friends.

425059 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to Laura Suckling, 1, #1351 of 1640 🔗

Sexuality or proclivities?

425240 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Anti_socialist, #1352 of 1640 🔗

You can at least hint. Legal? Illegal?

From where did you hear the rumours, that sort of thing.

425234 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #1353 of 1640 🔗

At least give some hints at what you might have heard.

425020 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Laura Suckling, 14, #1354 of 1640 🔗

I got nowhere with the link but agree with your sentiment, it’s all over;

  1. Cases (dodgy test results) at a very low and probably insignificant level compared to all the tests.
  2. NHS hospitals doing fine, with ‘covid’ cases well down.
  3. Deaths running at levels that are not alarming for winter-time in the UK.

‘Ain’t nothing shaking but the leaves on the trees’, its all over, its done and dusted, packed up and gone home, why is all this nonsense still going on?

425036 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Steve Martindale, #1355 of 1640 🔗

It’s a pure guess, but I suspect it wasn’t brand & hitchens in conversation together, it seems an unlikely pairing.

425002 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 3, #1356 of 1640 🔗

Fraser Nelson
Lockdown3 was to stop the NHS being overwhelmed. Now, even scientific advisers fear mission creep – with a new, tougher goal of forcing cases to a minimum. My


425120 ▶▶ Adamb, replying to Tom Blackburn, 4, #1357 of 1640 🔗

This pissed me off, lockdown supporter starts to worry about “mission creep”??

425194 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Adamb, #1358 of 1640 🔗

He should worry about the creeps on a mission

425285 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Adamb, 1, #1359 of 1640 🔗

Yeah, any backtracking by these guys just won’t do now. Maybe pre winter you’d forgiven them. However, the nastiness and sanctimonious stance by the lockdown zealots since means I’m done.

They’ll forever be reminded.

425013 Tom Blackburn, #1360 of 1640 🔗

Prof Francois Balloux
New analysis of the cost/benefit balance of school reopening in the UK, based on transparent assumptions and exploring a range of realistic scenarios. Such documents are useful to inform and focus the debate.



425015 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 10, #1361 of 1640 🔗


NHS says over-50s without underlying conditions SHOULDN’T be getting Covid jabs yet and appointments should be cancelled if made in error
Yet, they are handing jabs out like sweeties. The NHS has no idea what it’s doing!

425018 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1362 of 1640 🔗

Just about par for the course there than.

Not fit for purpose

425022 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Ceriain, 3, #1363 of 1640 🔗

They’re just throwing poo at the wall and seeing if it sticks.

Way of the bureaucratic world.

425050 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1364 of 1640 🔗

Mind you… it could just be another part of the mind game. As says below:

The shortage was a fabricated myth to establish and increase desirability.
Marketing 101.

425126 ▶▶ p02099003, replying to Ceriain, 2, #1365 of 1640 🔗

One of the NHS vaccination sites in Leicester has had to close because they’re not allowed to vaccinate under 65’s. Some of the community vaccination hubs are not necessarily under the control of the NHS.

425028 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 16, #1366 of 1640 🔗

Why are bedwetters creaming their knickers over some administrative faux pas by Wanksock yet the Vitamin D scandal doesn’t even register?

Honestly, they are a different species.

425282 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Tom Blackburn, 2, #1367 of 1640 🔗

I was speaking to a very vocal lockdown loving, its only temporary, colleague recently. He was quick to answer everything. He had never heard of the Vitamin D thing. Like he was so concerned for all the people dying, he hadn’t come across it.

That left me angry. They don’t care, they just want to be right in that moment. Why? Is it just straight up narcissism?

Hancock wrong to say government scientists ran coronavirus trial on vitamin D | News | The Times

425037 awildgoose, replying to awildgoose, 4, #1368 of 1640 🔗

AOC calling for investigation into Cuomo care home scandal:


Yeah…shit just got real for Andy boy…

425040 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to awildgoose, 1, #1369 of 1640 🔗

Good, someone needs to.

Never mind a dog with a bone, she’s a Rottweiler

425053 ▶▶ isobar, replying to awildgoose, #1370 of 1640 🔗

Good, about time!

425042 Steeve, replying to Steeve, -33, #1371 of 1640 🔗

There will be bumps and holes in the road. We will move forward slowly but there will be many dangers ahead. The freeway may become cul-de-sacs. Newly constructed bridges will get us to the other side but there will be structural problems. Citizens of the UK lets move forward slowly together.
Be wary of those who want to drive faster and move forward quicker.
Citizens do the right thing and get vaccinated this will help to flatten the bumps and fill in the potholes. The cul-de-sacs will become freeways and we will once again start to open up our social, community and family bridges.
However I must make it very very clear to the nation that the road to freedom is a Toll road. Get vaccinated and you will travel freely.
Citizens, all voices against this roadmap out of lockdown will be spoken to and given the opportunity to be rehabilitated. However because of the clear and present danger of the virus will use the full force of the ACT against dissidents.

Do you want freedom?


425049 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Steeve, 17, #1372 of 1640 🔗

B… B… B… B… B… B… B… B… B…

Not a fucking chance, mate!

425052 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Steeve, 10, #1373 of 1640 🔗

No way

425055 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Steeve, 7, #1374 of 1640 🔗

Pretty accurate but he’ll never explicitly state that vaccines will grant freedom of movement. It will be vagueness and obfuscation all the way. Like a vampire he has to wait until the victim (ie, the British people) invite him in, ie, they are so desperate that they crave the vaccine like a junkie going cold turkey.

425060 ▶▶ Tom Blackburn, replying to Steeve, 6, #1375 of 1640 🔗

Hard pass

425063 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Steeve, 5, #1376 of 1640 🔗

I ain’t no structural engineer but that sounds like a load of old bollocks!

425071 ▶▶ AidanR, replying to Steeve, 8, #1377 of 1640 🔗

You are a retard.

425115 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to AidanR, 2, #1378 of 1640 🔗

Never go full retard.

425072 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Steeve, 8, #1379 of 1640 🔗

I’d sooner die in one of your potholes. Fuck off.

425080 ▶▶ DRW, replying to Steeve, 11, #1380 of 1640 🔗

This has to be prediction or satire, right?

425107 ▶▶ DThom, replying to Steeve, 3, #1381 of 1640 🔗

You think the Vaxx will give you freedom?
Good luck with that!

425129 ▶▶ Steve F, replying to Steeve, 12, #1382 of 1640 🔗

This is pretty clearly intended as a satirical address so I’m disappointed that no-one has spotted this and that the post has been damned with two dozen down votes. I know we’re all a bit touchy at the moment but please …
No relation, incidentally.

425138 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Steve F, 2, #1383 of 1640 🔗

Reminded me of a tannoy message from 1984.

425151 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Steve F, #1384 of 1640 🔗

Indeed, all I said was I don’t like Jordan Peterson & got the thumbs down from hell rained down on me.

425195 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Steve F, 2, #1385 of 1640 🔗

I certainly got it. I was first to reply and I upticked it. Came back through the posts 10 minutes later and it was at -25. Most peculiar.

425237 ▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Ceriain, 2, #1386 of 1640 🔗

More than peculiar. That’s an excessive quantity of down votes considering that many of us who recognised the irony would have up voted it.

425264 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Ceriain, #1387 of 1640 🔗

That’s unity of the left for you.


425278 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Steve F, #1388 of 1640 🔗

I did, like a Hancock speech

425172 ▶▶ EllGee, replying to Steeve, 1, #1389 of 1640 🔗


425045 Anti_socialist, 7, #1390 of 1640 🔗

It’s a slow night is everyone out partying?

Expect this has been posted before…

425051 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 3, #1391 of 1640 🔗

The sickos have dropped the alcohol percentage on Wifebeater.

425056 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Tom Blackburn, 1, #1392 of 1640 🔗

The end of civilization as we know it !

425228 ▶▶ stevie119, replying to Tom Blackburn, #1393 of 1640 🔗

“for health reasons”

425064 Alice, replying to Alice, 6, #1394 of 1640 🔗

I think I’m becoming obsessed – I saw this, and I thought it was a Covid:


425066 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Alice, #1395 of 1640 🔗

This year’s winner of the Darwin awards, What a knob!

425078 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, #1396 of 1640 🔗


425085 ▶▶▶▶ Alice, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #1397 of 1640 🔗

Covid on my mind… A new symptom – visual obsession?

425081 ▶▶▶ Alice, replying to Anti_socialist, #1398 of 1640 🔗

But that mine, with those spikes – doesn’t it really look like a Covid? Or am I imagining things?

Now, this one really IS a Covid!


425101 ▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Alice, #1399 of 1640 🔗

Lovely – Sadeek will doubtless order one for the spare plinth

425113 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Alice, #1400 of 1640 🔗

I have no idea what a covid looks like, neither has anyone else, it’s impossible to take a picture of something that hasn’t been proven.

425065 Anti_socialist, 5, #1401 of 1640 🔗

A bit of old man in a chair Could the Covid-19 Jabs Kill More than Covid-19? For anyone that likes it.

425069 Tenchy, replying to Tenchy, 30, #1402 of 1640 🔗

From the Telegraph coronavirus live feed (free):


Man and woman fined for driving to the seaside to eat lunch in the car

A police force has been criticised on social media for fining two people who had driven to eat their lunch in their car by the seaside.

The 40-year-old man and a 34-year-old woman from Southampton, Hampshire, have been reported for summons for fixed penalty notices after they travelled to the Marine Parade car park in Lee-on-the-Solent.

Hampshire police has confirmed the pair were fined for being in breach of Covid-19 regulations for travelling “to eat lunch by the sea” while inside their car.

Gosport Police posted on Twitter: “A 40-year-old male and 34-year-old female, both from Southampton, were also yesterday reported for summons, relating to a FPN for breaching Covid-19 regulations in Lee-on-the-Solent.

A Hampshire police spokeswoman confirmed the pair had been fined because they had travelled without lawful excuse, not because they were from different households.

One Twitter user posted about the incident: “Get a grip this is getting out of hand now, we are becoming a police state, the respect is slipping away.”

FFS! I’m … l..l..l lost for words!!!

425075 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Tenchy, 10, #1403 of 1640 🔗

This is what policing has come too, hanging around beauty spot car parks to catch people out & trolling social media for non crime, crimes!

425083 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Anti_socialist, 5, #1404 of 1640 🔗

This is what the public has come to …. lunch? Used to be doggers 😳

425148 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Barbara Baker, 1, #1405 of 1640 🔗

I went there once ( Marine Parade park) a Dachshund jumped in the front seat & stole my chips. Is that what you mean’t by doggers?

425178 ▶▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Anti_socialist, #1406 of 1640 🔗

Of course !

425097 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Tenchy, 16, #1407 of 1640 🔗

“A police force has been criticised on social media…”

That’s the problem. Hampshire police shouldn’t be “criticised on social media”. Their headquarters should be stormed by an outraged mob, its officers should resign en masse, and its senior staff should be dragged through the streets and flogged for this grotesque abuse of power.

425174 ▶▶▶ Nymeria, replying to Jo Starlin, 2, #1408 of 1640 🔗

Agreed. This is all becoming more than a little troubling.

425236 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Jo Starlin, #1409 of 1640 🔗

Bash the fash!

425084 liztr835, replying to liztr835, 50, #1410 of 1640 🔗

Charles Walker and Desmond Swayne get it, they are honorable and sane people, why is it that they can see the terrible destruction of our society and collateral damage and other “intelligent people” cant.

Why are some people so easily manipulated, a virus that kills virtually no one it infects, and targets a very narrow group of people according to the official NHS data, and yet so many are willing to ruin and kill many lives to save so few. I say ruin and kill, as that is exactly what is being done and they are all complicit and enabling this to happen. I read another story today about lack of treatment for cancer, and people getting fobbed off by their doctors leading to the death of young people. I had a cancer scare this year and it took 5 months for the hospital to check me out so I have personal experience of this.

Businesses going to the wall, I have talked to people who just think that they can re-open in a few months time with no issues, when Cineworld closed, a social worker friend said it would not be the end of the world for the employees, as they could just find another job, and go back to Cineworld when they opened up again!

I have had people smile at me like I am mad and a bit thick, when I talk about the fact that people will die of things other than Covid as they are missing essential annual checkups for various conditions.

I tell people I am excluded from all help and they tell me how rich they are on Furlough or SEISS, with no empathy what so ever.

I feel like apart from the people on here, most citizens of this country have had a lobotomy. I am sure people in the past were not this evil or thick.

425088 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to liztr835, 13, #1411 of 1640 🔗

Most people in this day and age are just plain old fashioned selfish and self-centred

425091 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Barbara Baker, 8, #1412 of 1640 🔗

Only happy to save a snow leopard or whatever for £2 a month to salve their consciences- see a homeless person and report them to the council- miserable hits mostly
Sorry you are having a miserable time ☹️

425094 ▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Barbara Baker, 3, #1413 of 1640 🔗

Obviously I meant miserable gits – gotta love predictive text

425130 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Barbara Baker, 4, #1414 of 1640 🔗

The snow leopard just wants to be left alone. Like Oxfam and their fucking donkeys.

425142 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #1415 of 1640 🔗

Indeed, can’t blame them for lefty nonsense.

425143 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #1416 of 1640 🔗

What has Oxfam to do with donkeys? They’re not interested in donkeys. I am, as it happens. And snow leopards. And the poor damn tortured bears in Pakistan. And the rhinos and elephants and tigers etc etc The bloody appalling things people do to animals in this world would be done to them, if I had my way. But that’s a fight which has nothing to do with this site and bugger all to do with the struggle against Covid tyranny. Can we stay on course, please?

425152 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Steve F, #1417 of 1640 🔗

Think dancing bears ended already in Pakistan.

425203 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #1418 of 1640 🔗

Not as far as I’m aware.

425153 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Steve F, #1419 of 1640 🔗

Oxfam you can buy a donkey for a black person and you get a leaflet telling you about it. Maybe that was fifteen years ago.

425180 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Steve F, 1, #1420 of 1640 🔗

Relax, i agree with you about our relationship with nature & animal cruelty, BUT……….liberal concept of nature is absolutely corrupt. And if you don’t like the tangent don’t read the thread.

425221 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #1421 of 1640 🔗

OK; liberal concept of nature is indeed “corrupt” and mostly disingenuous. I don’t doubt it. Not sure that objecting to the tangent (if that’s what I did) disqualifies me from reading the thread though. I spend about four or five hours a day on this site and have done since day one. Occassionally I misinterpret the sense of a post but some are very easy to misinterpret and I know I’m not alone in this because I’ve just defended another contributor from the kind of misinterpretation that led to him/her getting 25 down votes.
Anyway, you suggest I “relax” and you are quite right. I’d really like to. Very fed up with feeling so edgy all the time and prone to go off at the deep end. Must go and have a pint somewhere and try to calm down a bit. Oh no, wait a minute …

425259 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Steve F, 3, #1422 of 1640 🔗

You’re not prohibited from reading anything or writing anything, freedom of expression means you see shit you don’t like, if you don’t like don’t read it…your choice…just saying…peace!

My go-to place for inspiration is nature, despite our species destructive conduct, its everywhere, you can’t escape it, look out the window at the stars, think how our ancestor coexisted with cave lions, or listen to the trickle of a robin’s song & imagine a woodland glade or study a spiders web, in awe of its engineering beauty, you’ll find nature & inspiration everywhere if you look.

425289 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #1423 of 1640 🔗

Your first para: I know I know I know!

Your second para: I am fortunate to live in a very rural place with the darkest starry skies and the natural world all about me. I have never taken any of it for granted and I appreciate all of it every minute of every day. Even those aspects of nature which seem determined to make life difficult I would not exchange for modern comforts. I am addicted to my anachronistic lifestyle. I heard the first thrush of spring this morning and there is nothing which compares to that feeling you get when you know that life is returning to the world around you after the long months of winter cold and darkness.

425141 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Barbara Baker, #1424 of 1640 🔗

I’m quite old fashioned but not at all self-centred. I don’t understand what you’re saying.

425176 ▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Steve F, 1, #1425 of 1640 🔗

I didn’t say “old fashioned, selfish and self centred”- I said old fashioned selfish as in like my mum used to say.
Selfish today seems to mean antivaxxer / anti lockdown…. I do not presume to know your thoughts on either but I could guess at least 50/50 ☺️

425255 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Barbara Baker, #1426 of 1640 🔗

My apologies, BB. Never heard that “old fashioned selfish” thing. That’s the second time this evening I’ve apologised for misinterpretation. Brain fog/wine fog.
Totally anti vax/ lockdown, incidentally.

425133 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to liztr835, 3, #1427 of 1640 🔗

I honestly have at moments seriously considered whether there was something more than manufacturing consent at work. As if there were some actual interference with peoples’ brains going on. Edit: I know that is not true, obviously. Though they want to hook people up to the social credit cloud some time in the future.

425187 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #1428 of 1640 🔗

It depends on your definition.

The science behind trauma-based mind control has evolved over the past half-century, and as sure as eggs is eggs, they don’t make their most ‘interesting’ discoveries public. When do techniques like repetition/inducing fear/contradictory messages/compliance signalling/etc. constitute interference with people’s brains ?

425191 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to JohnB, #1429 of 1640 🔗

Psychology = mindfuck.

425197 ▶▶▶▶ liztr835, replying to JohnB, 1, #1430 of 1640 🔗

I would love to know more on this, and why on here we have not been manipulated by all the propaganda, what makes us different. I always found Derren Browns shows fascinating, in how he got people to do totally out of character things, time to do some reading I think.

425242 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to liztr835, #1431 of 1640 🔗

Have a look here: https://www.ukcolumn.org/

425093 Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, 6, #1432 of 1640 🔗

Hmmm smart-metered wifi?
The inexorable march towards a social credit system continues apace.

We’ve been busy upgrading our Intelligent WiFi tech to give you our most reliable WiFi experience with your Hub 3. The good news is this new-and-improved WiFi is now live in your home, at no extra cost.
…. We’ve built on the original Intelligent WiFi tech to make sure your gadgets are on the right frequency they need to do their thing. The new update looks at your WiFi use over the past few days at different times of the day to make sure everything’s in tip-top shape. This means a faster and even more reliable WiFi connection, especially if your devices move around a lot.

425109 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Cheezilla, 1, #1433 of 1640 🔗

Makes me glad we live in an area yet to be “upgraded “ to fibre – let’s see how long it stays that way

425145 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Cheezilla, 2, #1434 of 1640 🔗

Take BT Hub or Virgin trash > throw in bin > use own router > profit

425164 ▶▶ A Heretic, replying to Cheezilla, 1, #1435 of 1640 🔗

have you forgotten that pretty much all internet connections used to be metered?

425173 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to A Heretic, 8, #1436 of 1640 🔗

Oh the joys of dial up, that unique modem sound & dying of old age before you finished downloading a 5-second video clip, & you had to have a CD to do online Tesco shopping. The good old days, Younguns don’t know they’re born.

425179 ▶▶▶▶ A Heretic, replying to Anti_socialist, #1437 of 1640 🔗

not just dial up. if you have a download limit on your connection as most phones still do then it’s metered.

425181 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Cheezilla, 5, #1438 of 1640 🔗

The type of people who get their toaster an IP address will hopefully defuse this bollocks for the rest of us.

Easy to rebel against though – 50 million Faraday cages put around everyone’s smart meter. And they’re fucked.

425114 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #1440 of 1640 🔗

Started watching it last night but I need a break for a day or two. Have to watch the Zach Bush one, too.

425128 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Anti_socialist, 4, #1441 of 1640 🔗

Interesting what Prof Cahill said about the c19 outbreak in Bergamo – that all the oldies had had flu jab previous Oct/Nov and therefore had a severe reaction when infected with the rona …… wonder if all the oldies dropping now after the jab had already had their flu jabs before Xmas? At very least the gene therapy is supposed to mimic the rona……. don’t know if anyone has any info on that?

425137 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Barbara Baker, 1, #1442 of 1640 🔗

There were peer reviewed research papers asserting the flu vaccine caused a severe covid, back in April 2020. Sorry never saved any links.

425154 ▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Anti_socialist, #1443 of 1640 🔗

Thanks – I will have a search about

425231 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Barbara Baker, 2, #1444 of 1640 🔗

The NHS were really pushing the flu jab hard before Christmas.

There were a couple of papers last summer showing correlation between covid reaction and the flu jab. One was from the US military and the other was in a paediatric journal. Sorry I didn’t save the links.

425249 ▶▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Cheezilla, #1445 of 1640 🔗

Hancock quietly decided last autumn that all over 50s (or was it over 55s?) should be encouraged to have the flu jab “coz Covid” i.e. to protect “Our” (who else has one?) NHS from being overwhelmed by flu cases in addition to Covid.

By the time I was offered one (a couple of weeks ago) the flu had been eliminated. Not that I’d have had it anyway – my body seems to do a good enough job in most winter flu seasons.

425112 DThom, replying to DThom, 17, #1446 of 1640 🔗

Had our NHS letters today – shredded
Can’t believe the lies told in the accompanying leaflet

425124 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to DThom, 21, #1447 of 1640 🔗

If this isn’t defeated before the Summer ends, we’ll have a Pharmaceutical Totalitarian State in which the NHS is worshipped at the centre of it. I see more of those garbage, mawkish statues depicting ‘Captain’ Tom with his Zimmer frame alongside some rancid fat nurse or care worker smothering an inmate with a facemask while some policeman outside yells at an old woman on a bench. DAMN them all to HELL!

425139 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to FedupofLies, 5, #1448 of 1640 🔗

Glad you’re keeping your spirits up – it’s good to channel your anger. I have resorted to firing an old spud gun at a picture of Hancock on the garden fence

425175 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Barbara Baker, 2, #1449 of 1640 🔗

When you’ve finished with the picture (assume you’ll be getting through them quickly 🙂 ), burn them afterwards. Extra empahsis on the astral plane. 🙂

425125 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to DThom, #1450 of 1640 🔗

Any specifics? if so, surely a complaint to NHS England, or even the GMC (if a specific Dr signs off on it) isn’t unwarranted.

425208 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to DThom, #1451 of 1640 🔗

Yes. The lies are blatant and quite shocking!

425217 ▶▶ isobar, replying to DThom, 1, #1452 of 1640 🔗

Did the same, this is the best (or worst bit).

425223 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to isobar, 1, #1453 of 1640 🔗

‘No safety concerns’

425233 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to isobar, 1, #1454 of 1640 🔗

Meaningless, unverified word salad trash written by incompetent children.

425119 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 3, #1455 of 1640 🔗

Our neighbours are having the ‘jab’ willingly. They believe it’ll enable them to travel in the summer.
So does anyone know how the travel insurance companies are viewing this? Because they’re a good barometer as far as ”risks” and ”requirements” are concerned.
I’ve heard nothing from mine – though I have an annual policy. I’ll leave it a while and then do a bit of digging.

425135 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Banjones, 7, #1456 of 1640 🔗

Don’t fucking encourage them.

425155 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Banjones, 3, #1457 of 1640 🔗

it would be funny as if the insurance companies tot up the risk of getting seroiusly ill after the jab and find it to be massive, then come back with eye watering premiums.

425275 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Banjones, 2, #1458 of 1640 🔗

God people don’t care at all do they? “Well as long as we get our two weeks in summer, we’ll do absolutely everything we’ve been told to”

425122 FFxache, replying to FFxache, 13, #1459 of 1640 🔗

Just to sound off a bit.
No point doing it with the folk I know, none of whom are lockdown positive, but they ‘understand the reasons for the restrictions’, and so on.
So: today the boy (15) came home with lateral flow tests – needs these done twice a week to attend his practical classes (Scotland).
Mum – 87, co-morbidities ++, still waiting for a vax in Sturgeon’s Utopia.
I’m medical (Occupational Physician – Oil Industry)
Quotes from the briefings from the (very invested) Directors:
‘This is yet more evidence of the effectiveness of masks’ (comment on CDC double-masking recommendation).
‘We saw what happened when people in Aberdeen went to the pub in December’ (in response to virus seasonality case increases).
And from a hospital.physician I know:
‘People in Aberdeen just can’t do what they’re told’.
He was also unimpressed by his pay rise (basic up from 106k to 112k).
The boy is now seeing an educational psychologist. He’s in bits and struggling with defining boundries between what should take place at school, but is now intruding into home.
His sister’s at what passes for ‘University’ now. But hey, we don’t pay tuition and the antidepressants she’s now on are free.

425188 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to FFxache, 2, #1460 of 1640 🔗

I feel for you. Lots of folks I know fall into that “good Germans” group- the ones who go along to get along not acknowledging that others are struggling and that bad things are happening all around.

425272 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to FFxache, 3, #1461 of 1640 🔗

Stick them tests in the bin, or return them to downing street.

They are not compulsory

425127 Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 7, #1462 of 1640 🔗

Is this the best anti-lockdown tune EVER?


This is my mates band who have been busy during lockdown making this lovely tune.
Turn it UP!


425134 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to Two-Six, 2, #1463 of 1640 🔗

Excellent – I shall forward this to my MP!
That should fuse his hearing aid the tin-eared old bugger
Well done 👏

425136 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Two-Six, 2, #1464 of 1640 🔗

Not bad at all. 👍🏻

And, fortunately, being a Jock, I even understood the words. 😉

425169 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1465 of 1640 🔗

Very good.

Different style – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YBq_62pM8g

425177 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to JohnB, 1, #1466 of 1640 🔗

Excellent stuff there, very Mark E Smith’ish.

425144 JHUNTZ, replying to JHUNTZ, 2, #1468 of 1640 🔗


As if I couldn’t dislike this sanctimonious arsehole enough.

425165 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to JHUNTZ, 4, #1469 of 1640 🔗

You could have warned us who you were referring to.

425200 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to JHUNTZ, #1470 of 1640 🔗

Sorry couldn’t watch that – just had a curry 😳

425146 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 10, #1471 of 1640 🔗

In UK it is not on prescription unless clinical trial.In Bulgaria any body can buy it over the counter,e picture in tweet


Bulgaria has just made off-label use possible: “People buy Ivermectin en masse from pharmacies

425170 ▶▶ Chicot, replying to swedenborg, 8, #1472 of 1640 🔗

The weight of evidence in favour of Ivermectin is becoming overwhelming. I suspect that many nations will eventually authorise it’s usage but God knows how many lives will be lost unnecessarily in the meantime.

425266 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Chicot, #1473 of 1640 🔗

On Sky News Australia back in September there was a scientist who was working with it but couldn’t get the government to take any interest whatsoever.


425269 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Banjones, 2, #1474 of 1640 🔗

The vaccines cannot be undermined. The US supressed it too.

425150 Maccynic, replying to Maccynic, 3, #1475 of 1640 🔗

Pakistan. Population 220, 000, 000. Look at wo