2021-02-20

Good morning to all the insomniacs out there.

Good morning Judy.

. . . and the early risers.

So Drakefords great reopening is we can meet three others in the pouring rain.

Whoopie do.

Damn, Judy beat me.

I’d like to meet Dungford and his repulsive sidekick Gethin and my vile, crawling MP in the pouring rain and gales we’re having just now, in the dark, right on the edge of a two-hundred-foot cliff, and then tell them that they must step well away from me because they are not socially distancing, and wait for the smash-splash, and walk away rejoicing.

I’m honoured to be in such fine company this morning. Good morning all.

Well there are a couple of pathways right above a handy gorge right in St Dogmaels (village he formerly visited for that party). They are about 2′ wide and one of them is well-known for at least one persons dog having fallen off down the gorge. Me I tried one of those walks just the once and was inching along clinging to the side and vowing never to do that one again (though plenty of others seem to – eek!) and I think that one would do nicely…

The happy thought arises too that that path is very tucked-away and hidden from sight. Definitely easy to see if there was any witnesses likely – 5 minutes = job done.

I know St Dogmael’s well. Good place. Butthere are plenty more in Pembs. Gullies, zawns, overhangs, landslips, slippery slopes…

Or even the Reichenbach Falls when we’re allowed to travel again without being threatened with 10 years in prison.

Is there a vale of tiers?

What will swervers do?

What concerned me was, just as an afterthought following a further unwarranted 3 week extension to lockdown, he glibly said ‘then we can start the economy’. WTF? Does he think by magic the economy, the severely damaged economy can be restarted, as Tommy Cooper would say, ‘Just like that’? He said it as though it was no. 20 down his list of things to do. What a shitshow.

The ‘Green Deal’ is a ‘novel’ economy – all set up a waiting to go.
Carney openly stated that businesses not complying WILL go bust.
This whole things is a top down restructuring of our world.
While in my view the virus is a fake narrative over the flue and cold season, it serves the establishment of pre-crime biotech interventions.
Nip life in the bud – unless of course it cows to ‘Herod’.

The old normal is not on offer, and is not here any more.
The ‘stakeholders’ are in process of reconditioning a slave caste’.
Most of whom are no longer required.
The process has been ongoing throughout our lives but is out in the open now.

Does this mean you are setting yourself up in the trip advisor business?

Daily Mail commenters make it clear that people have been meeting friends and family both indoors and outdoors since lockdown .3 began.
Johnsons cabal live in cloud cuckoo land.

True, and so does the Dungsquad, but cafés and everything else are still closed, until business owners grow some balls. How long, o Lord, how long?

The MSM, the Corporate, and the PPP of financially and ‘deal’ captured governments and regulators, all use the political puppets as protected assets of such wealth as leverage. So from their view we have no legs to stand on and no means to do more than shout in the kettles they provide or contain us in.

Yep….someone shoulda told him Wales is a very wet part of the country and some parts wetter than others. I know he does visit West Wales sometimes (ie wettest part of this area). I was at the same party as him in St Dogmaels back shortly before he became First Minister of this area. So – yep….I’ll cheerfully accompany him on some nearby walks – the muddiest I can find at the wettest day predicted and ensure he gets the worst bit to walk in and borrow someone’s rambunctious dog to ensure he gets leapt on in doggie excitement whilst on the ground.

Yes great sense from somewhere with no cases, bugger all deaths.

Was your final line to Judy a request or a statement? Lol

Here is some science

There is not a single person alive, scientist or otherwise who claims to fully understand our immune system

Therefore the consequences of interfering with our immune system are unknown

Agreed, our immune system is ancient and impossibly complex. Governments and scientists understand just enough to be a danger to us, by interfering with natural human contact. One would think that the emergence of antibiotic resistance through overuse of antibiotics would make people stop and think, but no luck.

The overuse of antiseptics less community contact and community masking will come back to bite us.

Professor Vincent Racaniello’s virology lectures on youtube are fascinating – viruses are ancient, essential to life and ever changing.

Yes, important to realise that the immune system is a wonderfully complex system, honed to near perfection by evolution, and only disrupted by modern ways such as processed foods and clumsy medications.

I think this video of a deep dive into the immune system by Creon Levit from May 2020, and using the wonderful David Goodsell drawings from his Machinery of Life book, leaves you marvelling at the beauty and brilliance of the immune system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7820q2eY-_k

(talk starts at 3 minutes)

Watch that and decide whether you want to mess with that.

Evolution? How would complexity evolve? If you did not have a complex immune system to start with you are dead. Simples. Shit happens is a philosophy not a science.

Yes the human organism is a complex array of chicken or egg conundrums only resolved by the doctrine of Creation.

So where is your god now? I thought after the Great Flood, your god promised never to inflict something of that magnitude on the planet again?

I’ve never quite grasped why people get so overwrought about the business of Creation

Existence is fundamentally, intrinsically inexplicable, ineffable

You can go back as far as you want and explain more and more with science but you’ll never explain existence

FWIW I’m not religious myself

Evolution is based around the concept of natural selection whereby organisms with traits and genes, more beneficial for their environment, are more likely to reproduce and pass on their traits and genes to more offspring. The evolution of the immune system has followed the same process as individuals with more effective immune systems are likely to survive and pass on their immunity to their offspring

I made no comment on whether complexity evolved. I said the immune system has evolved over time and that the immune system was complex.

simples .. 3 billion years of competition between organisms

And don’t forget it twas aliens!!

I’d like to agree with you but there are plenty of scientists who should know better who are prepared to go on TV and claim to understand the immune system.Otherwise, your point stands! Any decent scientist knows what they don’t know – which in the case of viral spread and the immune system is a hell of a lot.

Crystal Cruises, a luxury cruise line have also now stated that vaccines will be required to travel with with them. Hope they get the same treatment as Saga.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/02/18/the-first-large-ship-cruise-line-announces-vaccine-requirement/

I find the cruise vaccine nonsense somewhat ironic, given that cruises seem to be a hotbed of norovirus most years.

Cruising (to my non cruising eyes) is all about catching unpleasant viruses, as well as not being able to get away from people. Some kind of hideous hell hole.

Thank you, that made me laugh – and laughter is in short supply! I’ve always thought they were festering plague ships!

That depends on the cruise line. A mega-ship with 6000 passengers is my idea of hell.
A smaller ship with 700 is very pleasant. But not with mandatory masks and vaccines.

Exactly! I really don’t see the appeal. I can do an overnight ‘booze cruise’ and that’s about it. The constant stories of viruses making you sick (from both ends!) on ships, where you’re stuck for days and days with other people, really turned me off. No thanks!

They will be authors of their own demise.

Well, I guess that is better than Bozo – who has been the author of the UK’s demise!

Yes, it would be nice if the impact could be limited to those imposing the restriction.

Another one with a death wish.

What is it about these businesses? They seem desperate go under.

Nah its just virtue signalling. Its trying to show the silver tops that we are safe. But does getting a jab stop you getting or passing on the disease? No? So how is that making your cruise safer? Mind you as a cruiser I could not think of anything worse than going on a saga cruise with a load of covid zealots and curtain twitching moany old fuckers.

I wonder, do cruise ships make more “carbon” per passenger to get to say, New York than a passenger jet?

I get the feeling that the only way to travel will be by boat or even modern solar/sail boats in the near future and it will be sold to us as the only option cos climate change…

I would rather BBQ my balls than go on a cruise anyway. Much more likely to get Norovirus than the Rona, that’s for sure.

I’ve been on two cruises recently (2019) and thoroughly enjoyed both of them.
They were on a higher-class cruise line (featured on tv), where cleanliness was excellent, hand sanitizers and hand-washing stations everywhere, including no-touch automatic door opening for public toilets, to minimise cross infection.

Yebbut what other holidays have hospital-esque precautions to minimise cross infections? What’s so awesome about a cruise that you’re happy to take a risk of cross-infection?

Each to their own, but having to ramp up infection control to those levels would dampen my holiday spirit, for sure.

Exactly! I don’t see the appeal at all. I think you need to be into ‘safetyism’, which is responsible for much of our current situation. I couldn’t enjoy an experience that reminded me of a medical facility. It certainly would not be a holiday!

As welcome as it is to see the courts actually doing something to rein in this government of tyrants, doing Hancock for the non-disclosure of contracts is like doing Hitler for traffic offences.

The Death Secretary’s bloody fingerprints are all over the greatest loss of quality life years since the war – yet in this case, it was a deliberate theft in order to pulverize the population into accepting experimental vaccines & immunity passports.

The gallows are too good for him, I’d throw him into a cage of rabid, starving Rottweilers.

Maybe it can be like Al Capone. Get him on the small stuff,

Definitely, it was always financial misappropriation that resulted in all the truly awful managers being sacked

Rottweilers are nice dogs unless spoiled by their owners. Surely they deserve better food than that sort of trash?

They would have to be immediately put down after consuming such poisonous flesh, maybe we can posthumously award them all a Dickin Medal for their service?

What about just feeding him to the lions?

Don’t forget Shitty, SAGE, FerguTard, Doris and Prince Vallance.

All need to swing.

Don’t forget to include Mr Grumpy – Chris Hobson of NHS Providors

That’s his stage name, his real one is Chris Knobson

Great idea, but what will happen is that he’ll get a K, some baubles with a “BE” in the title and probably more, “the thanks of a grateful nation”, and sooner or later, a seat in the Lords, where, as with other former Suffolk MPs, he can busy himself making yet more money on the back of all this. Other sinecures will doubtless also become available to him.
I haven’t been there for a while, but I don’t think there are enough lamp-posts in the vicinity of the Houses of Parliament to accommodate all the criminals responsible.

Feed the cunt to pigs

To good, crocodiles a better bet

Yes but don’t forget they got Al Capone for tax evasion. Not all the other shit he did. The courts would not put the objection to lockdown and its associated harms to the high Court. So this is the only attack left. If it sees the slimy fucker having to answer difficult questions rather than the soft questions he is asked by the msm that would be good. Squirm mf Squirm!!

Official US sources like the FDA and CDC describe the vaccines as experimental. I haven’t seen any similar language by UK authorities. In fact, Walesonline is going mental about what it describes as a “dangerous leaflet” being delivered to homes describing the vaccines in just those terms. Can anyone help me with respect to how these so-called vaccines are being described by official sources here in Prison Island?

Here?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/955901/Temporary_Authorisation_Patient_Information_BNT162_6_0_UK_clean.pdf

that’s the Pfizer one

in fact you can get all the info on all 3 here:
https://www.gov.uk/health-and-social-care/pharmacy

Thank you. The language is not quite as explicit as the American.

Deliberately so!

we are generally less litigious here, is the reason I guess

Is there a simple non specialist explanation of these vaccines, what they are and how they work? I may well be wrong but my understanding is that we have;

1. nRNA vaccines Pfizer & Moderna; very experimental gene therapy approach.
2. Adeno-virus vaccines, Astro-Zeneca, Johnson/Johnson, Russian Sputnik, Chinese???
3. Attenuated live virus; still in development but possibly available as a nasal spray?

As I say I am only putting together the bits and pieces I have picked up, am I anywhere on the right lines?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/24/health/covid-vaccines-design-explained/index.html may help

Fail to disclose where you have been on holiday = 10 year prison sentence.
Fail to disclose why you have given £30 million of public money to one of your mates= naughty boy don’t do it again

Fail to disclose how many people died after your edict forcing infected patients into NY care homes. Have a special Emmy!

And a fucking knighthood!! Arise Sir Jimmy Saville!!

The entire establishment is corrupt

Killing millions of people with a vax and continued lockdown = contrats from the great reset technocrats

The government has taken away the value and meaning in the lives of all of us for nearly a year, and it is for no reason.

The fact that this has happened all over the world doesn’t make it more acceptable or more excusable – they have committed a terrible offence against the people of this country, against the whole of humanity, and this will not and cannot be forgotten. Boris, Matt, Kier, Whitty, Vallance, Biden, Cuomo, Fauci, the New York Times, the BBC – they are all complicit, let this never be forgotten.

As I see my 8 year old son spend yet another day on his laptop when he should be out at his friends’ houses playing, or they should be here – how can we ever begin to see these people as anything other than the disgrace to humankind, weak excuses for what we should be. When I see millions of people laid off or furloughed because Boris can’t or doesn’t assess risks properly, this is not normal negligence of a political leader, this is of a whole different order. And he doesn’t get a ‘get out of jail free’ because Biden or Macron or Merkel has done the same. They all equally have the devastation of the lives of millions on their hands. When they wash them, as I’m sure they do many times, they cannot wash off the stench of these devastated lives.

Nearly every one of them a middle class, middle to high income, middle age male, creating rules destroying the lives of the young and the poor and the women.

We knew, I knew, back in March last year that, whatever we did  this was going to kill at the extreme maximum no more than are killed with deaths involving flu and pneumonia, and around 4,500 would be under 60. Many people on this site knew the same, and we were right! But the bloated egos of Ferguson and others came out with idiotic figures and refused to back down in the face of reality.

We look at Sweden and we see the same pattern of deaths as the UK, we see in Sweden around 1% excess deaths in 2020 compared to 2017 (when age and population are taken into account). Why did we not do what they did ?

We look at Ron deSantis in Florida who removed all restrictions, and the outcome was the same as California

We look at Brazil and the outcome is the same as Peru.

Why can’t the rest of the world see the self – evident truth.

Why are even our leading statisticians falling for the hysteria and forgetting their academic discipline.

Let us not forget that only 1,000 people under 50 died last year in the whole of England and Wales because of Covid. Let us not forget that, even in the over 90s, the chance of dying last year from Covid was around 1 in 50, including all the people killed by the government taking the sick out of hospitals and infecting our residential homes, compared to their 1 in 4 chance of dying any year from any cause. Let us not forget that ultimately this is not much worse than flu despite all the lies we have been told.

The nonsense continues, our kids can’t go to school, we can’t go to restaurants or pubs or on holiday, millions have lost their jobs, people are not being normal people. But a few middle age middle class men are happy and self satisfied.

It is right to be angry!

It will never be forgotten or forgiven.

‘Is it right to be angry’? Not angry no. Flocking Furious, ready to revolt, injure, maim. Angry was last March 15th 2020. Ready to string up Wancock, Shitty and Doris on Tyburn is where the sheeple need to be now.

SAGE et al are not doctors. They are Quackademics, ruining your world.

When has a quackademic been acquainted with reality? Never. It is a short hop from a ‘Professor’ to a Totalitarian. See Hegel for more info. I have them in my family. Stupid as doors but more arrogant that a Libtard Doris-chum from Oxford.

Fake data, fake models, fake stats, that the Sheeple have no clue about and blindly support this CV Fascism, with ever-changing objectives, goalposts, and now mandatory testing and vaxx’s coming – for a god damn flu in which 99.7% nicely survive.

Angry? Jesus Christ. If the sheeple don’t stop bleating and start beating, Orwell is your future.

I am not angry I am simply furious and wish nothing but the very worst on these people. I know that if any of them were in the same room as me they would not be getting out alive…. its as simple as that. To me this is evil on a scale unimaginable to me in my previous life before march 2020.

I remember the night after the GE in Dec 2019 a young attractive female doctor saying she wished Johnson would die in a horrible way. It turns out she was right…did she know something we did not…..maybe she should be the new Mystic Meg!

The very worst for these people is to vote them out of office. Focus on that. The replacements will be just as useless of course.

The very worst for these people is to vote them out of office.

I doubt we’ll ever get the chance. By the time of the next election life will be over for nearly all of us. We are heading at breakneck speed into the most dangerous of times.

I bet she loves Fat Brother now.

Yes thats the ultimate irony…she will now be in full support…all her types are…though of course he should have done it earlier!

HUZZAR!

I fully agree with what you say, but please stop citing Brazil as a non-lockdown country. Of the 26 states and one federal district only TWO are not locked down. I know Wikipedia lists Brazil as non lock-down but it also qualifies that by listing the only two states that aren’t restricted. The 25 other states have lock-down of varying degrees, and in many cases for longer than the UK.

Well said. Is it also that the better educated and people with better jobs will not see the corruption in the government because, well basically, I am fine! My wife has been wfh for a year. When I talk about vaccine abuse or anything about covid bullshit she just puts her la la ears on. I can’t change anything, so why get angry? Lots of us come on here to express feelings we cannot convey to our friends or family. We know, if we go all red pill on them we will lose our friends. Thanks for being here fellow lockdown haters. You are keeping me sane!

Nah, go red pill on them anyway!! I did, and whilst my family back in the UK won’t swap anything but anodyne pleasantries with me any more (all firm believers) my circle of friends here has improved dramatically. Some chose to cut of all contact me, but they have been replaced by other “rebels”, so we can discuss and dissect the bullshit freely over a beer or three

My boss is a firm anti so when the company had to cut back on staff, guess who was shown the door first? We can now rip into the latest dictat from our mini dictator with gusto.

lucky you – I seem to be surrounded by zealots or shrugging defeatists and feel so incredibly powerless with every passing day – it is hard to see what is REALLY going on and not be able to do anything about it.

I don’t understand why people can’t see that Boris is a dictator and a tyrant. Why do people continue to follow his rules….I don’t. There is no opposition and we need more people to wake up.

The vaccine is the cause of the recent spike in deaths and it will continue until the vaccinations stop. No excess deaths from may to dec20.

He wants the uk population to be 10m because of his global warming technocracy bollocks. He’s dad has said this in an interview, why don’t people pay more attention to this.

Rise up everyone take your freedoms back

“We look at Ron deSantis in Florida who removed all restrictions, and the outcome was the same as California”

Wrong.

The outcome was better than California. The death rate per capita in Florida is better than that of California, despite having an older population.

Gavin Newsome is facing a recall petition.
Ron DeSantis is being touted as a potential presidential candidate, although he’s reportedly not interested in running. He can do more as governor or senator of Florida than he can as president.

Why can’t we have a leader like DeSantis instead of Boris Bunter?

DeSantis is correct.

One thing this situation has revealed is how much power the governors of US states hold.

This was shown by states like NY and CA, which told Trump to go pound sand until he was out of office.

Well done L, that’s brilliant!

Don’t forget to count India and their $3 pill packs among the rational responses in the world.

And yet the MSM keeps asking why India is doing so well and behaving as if it’s a complete mystery. If they did the most cursory of investigations they would realize that for under $3 per person we could all be doing just as well. Bloody lazy, corrupt buggers.

Lawrence, please enter politics, I’d vote for you.

Last night on the BBC it claimed that one in two hundred people had covid but if you look on the website it claims the average area as 114 per 100,000 which is one in 870 people. Can anyone explain what is going on ?

BBC is lying. You ought to know that. Extra homework for you tonight.

Maybe your right I noticed this discrepancy when the government claimed 2% of the population had covid about a month or so back.
The ZOE covid tracker app claimed only 1% but which ever way you look at it the numbers are not about truth but about frightening people. To me it would be far more truthful to say 99.88% are covid free but then people would say why are we in lockdown when so few are infected.

Why watch the Bullshit Bolshie Crap? Turn it off and poof, the ‘pandemic’, the fraud, the made up numbers, all disappear. No Fake News on this pandemic 24-7, you would not know CV 19 existed.

I don’t pay a TV Licence or ever buy a newspaper or watch any TV. I would never had heard of CV19 in my own life if it had not been for the media and government and NHS and local councils spewing bullshit at us 24/7.

I’m same as you M8

I think they are using the idiotic number from the covid statistics that is total cases. This is currently at 4.1 million. So this is from March. What has nobody ever got fucking better? If you take their bullshit figure’s go back 14 days this is probably your current sick list. (I know the numbers are bollocks i am just playing their game) so going back 14 days gives us 178k. In 66 million people. Or .27% of the country. And we are in lockdown for this?

Interestingly looking at the numbers we were at 60k positives the beginning of the year we are now at 11k. But whats really interesting is that they are still doing 600k tests a day on average in Feb but are only finding 2% positive. Considering the FPR on this many test is about 2% I think its safe to say covid is totally gone. Oh dear is this why they need to test the kids to get the numbers up?

Don’t watch the bbc it’s full of shit

I have no faith in GMC doing anything. They have been dysfunctional for years and in need of reform.

Indeed

After reading a teaser article in the Telegraph, suggesting that we might be able to meet our families outdoors for Easter (why thank you Mr Boris) I wrote this.

Roadmap Hope

I’ve heard the roadmap rumours,
I’m hoping they are true,
My family just might see me,
They don’t think like me and you.

If Boris tells them stay at home,
Then that’s what they will to do,
They’ve heard the propaganda,
And believed it to be true.

It’s left me broken-hearted,
To watch them fade away,
They follow all the rules,
Their new cult they must obey.

They follow all the leaders,
For the NHS they cheer,
Their masks, their safety blankets,
Help them handle all they fear.

They say I’m just so selfish,
I don’t care who I might kill,
That I would rather have my freedom,
And make other people ill.

It’s people just like me,
Who are causing this lockdown
If I’d only choose to follow rules,
We wouldn’t be here now.

I’ve tried to help them understand,
But my words fall on deaf ears,
The problem is I scare them,
My words fulfil their fears.

It’s all my fault they tell me,
I hear their accusations,
I’ve had to give up sharing,
I can’t do those conversations.

I know that I could walk away,
But love keeps holding on,
Division is the Devil’s game,
And I won’t play along.

I’m holding out a hope,
That one day they’ll awake,
Their blind eyes will be opened,
And they’ll see that it’s all fake.

Very good. Like the last two verses particularly.

Lovely poem…wish I could be as understanding as you. I have walked away from some…they have pushed me too far…do I really want people in my life who want me to live in an open prison?

I really do understand, it’s so frustrating and some days it just makes me cry. I think my faith helps, because as a Christian I know I am forgiven for all the stuff I’ve done wrong, that helps me to forgive others. I feel that until I’ve walked a day in their shoes, listened to the same propaganda, had the same conversations as them and been born with their personalities then how can I judge them by my standards? We all fall short of perfection and thankfully others love me when I do or say the wrong thing. What I do know is that love is better than hate and unity better than division and so I choose love, but it is so hard.

Thanks for that…I shall have to remember that. However to be honest some of them have disowned me!

My step mother yelled at me for 30 minutes (in response to me saying that it was sad that people in care homes were lonely) when we were in a restaurant beer garden last September, she hasn’t spoken to me since. Sadly my father is influenced by her, so although he wears the lanyard I gave him instead of a mask, he is being brainwashed by her fear. I haven’t seen him since either and I am not able to phone home for fear of being yelled at again, I am not emotionally strong enough to take her abuse. My Dad and I communicate via letter and email.

It’s strange how they get angry isn’t it? My mum is the same. Really very very strange. She hasn’t yelled at me but she has hung the phone up on me a few times and she gets really aggressive defending the bullshit. I just can’t talk to her now as it “goes wrong” every time.

I think it’s part of the cult-like brainwashing. It’s horrible to watch. I have to watch my words though and pray before I speak because if my external words always reflected my internal feelings, I would have alienated quite a lot of people by now!

Because they know they are right. The BBC had told them. That nice Mr handjob tells them. Their newspaper tells them. GMB tells them. And that lovely Dr Hilary tells them. How can they be wrong and you be right. You are not a doctor!! Look at the deaths, I never looked before but look at them now. Look at the hospitals, look at all those covidiots gathering on the beach!!

We have no voice folks. Only on YouTube and on here and occasionally on twitter. But old folk don’t watch that stuff. We will have our “see I fucking told you so ” moment but it will be after the event.

How very sad. Yet another indication of how relationships have been but under strain by lockdown. I’m glad though that you are still in communication with your father.

I am so sorry to hear that Liberty – I have had that at times from my family and it really does hurt. I hope that one day soon something momentous will really happen so that the scales can be lifted from their eyes and they will see you were right all along. It is hard having to see what is really going on and being denigrated as a tin foil hat wearer or whatever. Keep the faith.

Great stuff.

I heard the news on Classic FM. I thought, “Yay! An increase in the chocolate ration! Another bottle of Victory Gin!”

Am I right in thinking that foetus’s are to be tested next?

Probably jabbed in utero.

Sperm?

Sperm sanitizer nay be purchased online from an outfit owned by Wankok’s step-brother.

And, at the other end of the scale, sperm whales – could well be carriers.

White ones to be jabbed, aborted. Opt outs only for BAME etc. You know risks, Warming, hottest day evah, CV 19 super spreaders etc.

So a doomcock fan Eh?

Seriously???? !!!!!! By now – I’d believe it…

You are right in thinking that any deaths of foetus’s in a pregnant woman vaccine death will not be counted as a death. That will be regarded as ‘collateral damage’.

surely it is all left handed people, or people who wear contact lenses or somesuch daft proposition to justify the propaganda, sorry, endless mass testing

Bravo to whoever suggested ‘Maybe Tomorrow’ in today’s theme tunes. I’ve still got a copy buried away in the attic somewhere.

Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow…
…and all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death.

And we all know who the fools are.

I think there is a Joan Armatrading song called ‘Is it tomorrow yet’?

Ah, the gloomy Scotsman, excellent.

Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.

Prescient reference to the sainted and scented Gwinny there, remarkable how often Simpsons and Bob see the future too. Lots of bad actors out there this time certainly.

Dost thou think because thou art virtuous there shall be no more cakes and ale?

Done that form memory so it might be a bit incorrect in detail.

I’m sure there must. be loads of Lear quotes suitable for here. But I have a feeling we can no say we’re no longer at the worst, with conviction.

One I like:

As full of grief as age, wretched in both.

Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say

The other play I’ve been intending to relook at in the light of this shitshow is Othello. Of course, it’s always said to be about jealousy. But to me it’s about phycological collapse owing to doubt. I’ve always found Othello’s collapse quite unnerving, as it’s so true to life.

We all need bedrock to base ourselves on, but for many people this bedrock is fragile – hence why so many have been brainwashed. Sceptics, I reckon, are made of much sterner stuff.

I wrote this as the basis for a new song I am working on. Not ironed all the bugs out yet its not flowing yet but I was on hold to virgin and it just came out.

You, you call me danger
Why, why I wear a mask
You, you scream in anger
For the question that I ask.

But don’t drag me down,
Don’t give me misery
Don’t wear me down with darkness,
I am free, I am free, I am free

You, you say my freedom,
Is, is all down to you
You, you lock me into prison
When you know it isn’t true.

Chorus,

Bridge
Now you turn off the light
Take away my hope,
Way out of this madness
Is at the end of a rope.

You, you say its the science,
Is, is that really fact,
You, you demand obedience,
I have no power to retract!

That’s a powerful song. It is full of the hopeless feelings brought about by our current situation. Without wishing to diminish any of your words, I thought of an alternative to the concept of suicide in the bridge, just as my own expression of hope, not a suggestion that you should change your words in any way.

Now you turn off the light
Take away my hope,
Way out of this madness
Only God can help me cope.

I love to hear people creatively expressing their feelings in verse. I find it very cathartic to verbalise the turmoil of emotions churning round.

Yes, that’s pretty potent – have you got a tune? Song words can rarely be separated from the tune, methinks (although I know nothing about music).

I would confuse it all a bit and turn on the enemy: – e.g. ‘I am me, not thee, I am free’

‘Now you turn away from light
Take away your hope
Infect me with your madness
Dance at the end of a rope

You can see why I’ve never tried poetry or songwriting!

Inspired by the film ‘Annie’

The truth might come out tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
That it won’t
Just thinkin’ about tomorrow
Fill’s my heart with sadness and with sorrow
freedom’s gone
When I’m stuck a with day that’s grey and lonely
I just stick out my chin and grin, and say, oh
The truth might come out tomorrow
So you gotta hang on ’til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow, tomorrow
I hope for tomorrow
You’re always a day away

I’ll hang on for all the tomorrows that it takes.

First verse of the song:

Sometmes I just feel these crazy dreams inside

People hiding behind uniforms, scream aloud and shout tonight

Point your fingers and question why

Scared, scared people won’t smile, I don’t know …

The song ends:

Reality, or just lies? (maybe tomorrow)

Be good now, and don’t do nothing (maybe tomorrow)

Bang, bang, bang, bang, you’re dead

Many of the songs suggested for theme tunes here are suitable only for their titles – but the whole theme of this one could have been written for today. It never did anything (back in 1980), and I’d largely forgotten about it until I saw it in today’s list. Far better than anything The Jam ever did, imv.

Again, well done to whoever suggested it! Will you reveal yourself?

Still no articles on the Vaxx dead and injured or the experimental nature of the poison.

Oh I know why. LDS has always supported vaxx’ and Professor Shitty (a wonderful doctor LDS claims, he is not a Dr. he is lectern spouting moron) who is against the Barrington Declaration and a vaxx-ist.

LDS late 2020: ‘vaxx’s are the way out of this..’

And now? As the conspiracy theorists pointed out they don’t stop transmission, they might reduce symptoms for a small % and they injure and kill.

A jab a variant eh? Updated passport every month? Get the kiddies a jab every week?

LDS, the Vaxxist site.

I know, LDS doesn’t appear to want to address the vaccine question. In particular, it should be discussing:

1. Whether they are safe.
2. Whether people are in actuality giving informed consent when they are given them – or whether large numbers of people are effectively being duped.
3. The abomination of even suggesting mandation.
4. The possible links between the perpetrators of lockdown and the vaccine producers.

But addressing these would mean edgy, risky journalism.

Having said this, I thought today’s update was pretty good. I like the variation of the authors’ different styles – in keeping with which a few more days by Toby would be good, as he has an inimitable humour which can be very powerful.

I assume LDS is lockdown sceptics so here goes every drug or vaccine is not 100% effective or safe to believe or demand otherwise is not living in the real world. I believe vaccines should only be given to those who need it like those with impaired immunity such as the elderly and sick and those who want it. Why government and employer’s are talking about vaccine passports is illogical because a vaccine is not a shield but better weapons for fighting a virus. So you can still get infected and be infectious to your fellow humans all a vaccine does is stop you getting severe pneumonia. The lockdown as interfered with the natural process of getting infected recovery and immune to covid. So the government as not only robbed a year of life but giving us back artificial immunity which was stolen by not allowing people to develop immunity naturally.

That is not the conventional definition of a vaccine. What you have described is a treatment to alleviate symptoms.

I agree the covid vaccine is like the flu vaccine you can still catch the virus but your symptoms will be a whole better. This will lead to fewer people in hospital and deaths. Lastly why isn’t anybody talking about why the vast majority of us don’t need a vaccine because we all have immunity.

Your post just put me in mind of the mandatory vaccines for childhood illnesses, measles and such. If the measles vaccine didn’t prevent children from getting or transmitting measles, would there be as much of an uproar in schools about requiring childhood immunisations? I don’t have kids myself, so I may be missing something here. Personally, I had measles when I was a kid so I’m immune anyway.

Valid point if so. I’d not clicked to not noticing any reports of vax injuries and deaths on here. Not sure whether there’s been any reports of employees blackmailed into having the vax against their will by employers either??? Those reports are coming out already and some people are clearly suffering very badly from the vax – and that’s before most have had the 2nd one. Looks like anyone that can find a way to stick up these missing vax injury/death reports needs to put them up in comments – to ensure they do go up here.

Well it looks as if I will be joining the no symptoms at all list after the jab yesterday (AZ). Early days but I haven’t died yet…

In the limited trials the second dose produced a lot more adverse reactions.Also you have no way of knowing what it will do in the medium term let alone long term.
Good luck

Exactly. I have always believed the main danger from the vaccines was the long-term risk of ADE rather than the short-term risk of an immediate reaction to the vaccine.

Yes, that would be my take on it too. some of my friends have had dose one and think it is no biggie – but I’m wondering what happens when they get their second dose. Time will tell.

And they are now delaying the second jab? Why?

I think we have to be very wary of anyone who says…yes lets get out of lockdown but yes lets keep the vaccines and keep the masks and yes lets keep the anti social distancing. Its a bit like saying yes lets get rid of communist central planning but yes lets keep the Gulags and the KGB and the re education camps.

The whole lot are intricately mixed up together and they all need rejecting on mass.

ATL have either been cowardly about the ‘vaccine’ or they are enthusiasts for it which is even worse.

I used the inverted commas on the word as there are many medical experts who argue it is not a vaccine at all its a treatment. Vaccines provide immunity to the vaccinated and prevent them transmitting it to others. This ‘vaccine’ does neither so how is it one? Chemotherapy is a treatment for cancer but no one in their right mind suggests it should be mandatory for all including the vast majority of the population who do not have cancer.

We need a more comprehensive understanding of this whole attack on humanity than we are ever going to get from ATL. That requires moving beyond ‘government mistakes and incompetence’.

That’s an excellent letter the Munro-Halls have written to Saga. I hope they let us know the outcome.

I thought that it was brilliant AND, if you take it to its logical conclusion, not only can it be used in argument against any company which refuses to provide a service unless you have the vaxx does it not also deliver a massive blow to the whole vaccine passport case – to require someone to have a vaccine passport by extension requires them to have the vaccine ergo they are practising medicine without a licence and putting people at risk of all the harms outlined in the munro hall letter in breach of the nuremberg code and the council of europe resolution. It gave me a tiny bit of hope.

In some ways, it is not only the lockdown and vaccine-pushing that makes me feel frustrated, angry, and despondent, but how my own family have reacted to it.

I had a telephone conversation with my mum (mid-fifties, no underlying conditions) last night, and I told her that I probably wouldn’t be having the vaccine. She then said ‘Well, people need to play their part, if they want to get out of lockdown then they have to get the vaccine!’ Interesting that she framed it in terms of getting out of restrictions rather than in terms of any health benefit or protection.

I then calmly explained to her that I am a healthy 22-year-old to whom Covid poses virtually zero risk of serious illness or death, so why would I take an unknown risk of having unlicensed, experimental medical treatment when I don’t need it? I also explained to her that coercing people to have medical treatment just to participate in society and avoid becoming second-class citizens was a violation of informed and free consent. All perfectly reasonable, I said nothing that would be traditionally classed as a ‘conspiracy theory’, but instead I just got back, ‘Stop reading all that rubbish online’. Likewise to her, stop watching all the rubbish the MSM
spews out on an hourly basis.

I know I shouldn’t be angry at her, I know the government are trying its utmost to divide people, but there is something so exquisitely awful and disturbing at seeing your own flesh and blood robotically parroting the government line and thinking it’s acceptable for fundamental rights to be conditional upon taking a medical treatment whose benefits are not entirely clear. All this, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It is completely insane, and as someone on here said yesterday, it’s as if previously moderate people have just been lobotomised.

I really think that a lot of people know deep down that this is a total mess and has all been for nothing, but because they have invested almost a year of their lives in the lockdown ideology, believing that what they’re doing is for the greater good, that they’ll take any old medical treatment, regardless of the risks, just to feel as if it was all worth it.

That’s really appalling Poppy and its not only confined to this country. My family come from & live overseas and I’ve been avoiding them because I’ve been bullied by my father & brother-in-law, the former with his endless sending of mask videos (even after I told him that I coudn’t wear one) and and the latter patronisingly telling me to “stay indoors” after the third lockdown was announced. Funny how they see fit to preach from their priviledged positions.

I really think that a lot of people know deep down that this is a total mess and has all been for nothing, but because they have invested almost a year of their lives in the lockdown ideology, believing that what they’re doing is for the greater good, that they’ll take any old medical treatment, regardless of the risks, just to feel as if it was all worth it.

And this is the crux of the matter, many people deep down realised they’ve been had but rather than to admit that they’ve swallowed a lie, continue to be complicit in the government’s lies and do their dirty work for them.

Yes, the Covicult is in large part a ritualisation of the sunk cost fallacy.

Sunk costs are a powerful driver of human behaviour and I suspect a number of unhappy marriages as well.

Management accounting theory says sunk costs are irrelevant for future decision making!

The divide and conquer tactics of this government are one reason I will never vote for them again, if we get the chance!. I was told yesterday that ‘something needs to be done with these people who won’t get vaccinated, they need to be stopped from going to places, or it will just spread again’, I said sounds like segregation, long pause then,’well something needs to be done’. Critical thinking is in short supply

Critical thinking is the main casualty of this virus.

Critical thinking was deliberately destroyed by the psy-ops.
It’s going to be a long road back for most people – so long they might never make it to the end. The bastard SPI-M people won’t be so keen even to attempt to reverse the damage.

The hard hitting emotional messaging emanated from SPI-B.
It’s effects are all around us as evidenced by the swervers,jumpers and face turners out there.
A psychological attack on the British public.

TRAUMA INDUCED MASS PSYCHOSIS.

I’m going to post a link to an interesting paper: “COVID-19 and the Political Economy of Mass Hysteria” – https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/4/1376/htm .

It’s an academic paper. I believe the authors are coming from a libertarian perspective. It makes some interesting points about ways that governments can drive the mass psychosis process.

what is SPI-M? i think w e need a glossary. i finally figured out a tl and b tl though.
thank you all commenters . dont get the vaccine i wont . florida is sounding so wonderful

What gets me, is if they believe this is a real vaccine, that is they achieve immunity, and all the vulnerable people are vaccinated, why are they worried that others are not vaccinated, if in their head they are protected. They always like to use the yellow fever example, so you take a real vaccine before entering certain African countries and it is of no concern the level of vaccinated in the populous because you are protected. Guess it is just like mask wearing, if it so damned effective why do I need to wear one and those who are soooo scared, just wear 2 and leave me be.
As you said, no basic critical thinking.

The virtue signalling of ‘protecting others’ seems to have made them take leave of their senses, its an infectious madness that may disappear, as it takes a lot to be continually virtuous, most people haven’t got it in them.

Indeed. If someone in our society voiced an opinion like that in 2019 they would be rightly shunned, and now it’s seen as morally right. How far we have fallen in such a short time.

I agree. I personally don’t think anti lockdown people are defined by age, sex or economic circumstances.
Poppy’s mother is in my age bracket, but I for one would prefer my daughter in her twenties does not get vaccinated. Simply not necessary as her risk of getting severe disease is minimal.

Certainly the sceptics on this site cover various combinations of age, sex, economic circumstances, and I would add politics.

In the not too distant future the non-vaccinated will correlate with the unemployed.

That is indeed shocking that her main reason for having the vax seems to be in order not to suffer Vax Apartheid – rather than for any (misbegotten) medical reason. I was assuming everyone daft enough to have it was doing so for medical reasons basically (despite the few who have said they’d be daft enough to have it in order not to be forbidden from flying).

This is more common than you think. I’ve heard of quite a few people like my sister who had the vaccine because she’d had enough of being asked by her friends and family when she was going to do it – she just got worn down by the zealots and the sense that she was not one of them… I can’t talk to her in the same way any more.

Giving into peer pressure is the sign of a weak personality I’m afraid.

I am sorry you are facing this. Your post sums up a great deal of what is wrong.

All too common response I’m afraid Poppy. People have lost the ability to look at all aspects of the argument, the facts and make their own proportional decision based on their individual risks and values. Just take it as a given that the government is right, hmmm just tell them if they remember thalidomide.
I had a similar conversation with my brother recently who is getting da vaxx next week and I got on my soap box and told him stuff the msm doesn’t and sent him some reputable sources re adverse reactions and deaths etc. It got him thinking but i reckon he’ll still get it. These adverse reactions are all very well on a piece of paper as happening to other people, but if it happens to him he’d be laughing on the other side of his face if he got a severe reaction, especially bells palsy!

Exactly, I feel like older generations especially grew up in a time when they could trust the government to act in their best interests, but how far standards have fallen. People just cannot countenance that the government may act against their interests. The members of current government have done many things that even 15 years ago would have been cause for resignation (see Hancock’s recent brush with the law) but they still cling on in their rotten, corrupt cabal.

Good morning, Poppy. Excellent sensible post, thank you.

Maybe you should be angry at her Poppy…she was very disrespectful to you suggesting you should ‘play your part’ in getting out of lockdown when you never wanted to get into it. Surely thats her job as she no doubt supported it in the first place. She was also very insulting about the ‘rubbish you read online’ as opposed to the MSN fully paid for by government and global billionaires.

My mother is dead now but would have been just the same as yours. Its very frustrating and it makes you lose faith in them and doubt their intelligence. I do feel for you. Maybe its best to just never discuss it with her…I think thats the approach I would have had to take or relations would have frayed too far.

I wonder what happened in those families in 1930s Germany when some family members ended up supporting the Nazis.

My son told me months ago he was not interested in what I had sent him. I told him I was therefore in an abusive relationship and that he was the abuser.

Yes its time for you not to be interested in him. How utterly rude of him.

Perhaps you should have deployed your super power and invoked the risk of infertility raised by Yeadon et al.

I have tried to explain that to people – they just don’t get it and are still determined to get the vaxx – they see it as their passport out of this lockdown mess – they don’t seem to see that by being so keen to get it that it is just another ticket into the mess that will be our future and they have voluntarily bought it.

Poppy, well said and interesting to read your comment as I sort of, have the opposite issue. I am a mid 50’s very healthy lady, and my daughter is exactly your age. While she knows my views and agrees with most of them, she wears a mask as she ‘does not want any hassle’, and I have an utterly nightmarish feeling that she will take the vaccine (she knows my views on this also – untested in long term, and not needed for the vast majority of people). I know for certain that she will not take it because she needs it, rather, she will take it to ‘get out of lockdown’. So she isn’t so blind, shall we say, as your mum, but she will still conform to the nonsense to try to get her life back. It’s utterly depressing. My mum, who is 78, is also sceptical like me but is also very pro-vax, so she has had her first shot and does think all should have it (but that is more based on her love of vaccines than Covid). Your last paragraph was very insightful, and I tend to agree with you.

I really do find it strange to say the least that your mum wants you to get the jab considering how it might affect your health and especially your fertility.

It really is very un-natural for a mother to actually want something for her child that might in any way, how ever small cause harm.

It is an utter perversion of humanity and its all down to THE PSY-OP.

Really it’s terrible. Obviously resist getting the jab, for you it’s pointless and it will be a much bigger risk to you than not getting it. Protecting others is as we well know not relevant at all.

Hopefully soon people will realise what a scam this all is. They will be ashamed of themselves.

Let’s just say that I have never really got on very well with my mum and she has acted against my interests in the past. We have had a strained relationship for a long time but the Covid bollocks has made it ten times worse and any hope of a reconciliation seems to recede by the day.

Its sadly true that just because she is your mother she does not necessarily put your interests first. In my experience parents can be as selfish as anyone else. You are the best judge of your interests so tell her to go swivel.

Well said Poppy. For you at your age, it is certain that the Covid-19 vaccines can have no benefit. That will also likely apply to the rest of us, no matter what age we are.

The vaccines present serious risks and they will want to inject all of us every six months for the rest of what will be purposely curtailed lives. Far better to make a stand now and refuse the “vaccines” before any damage is done.

The whole “everyone needs to do their part” but sounds very communist, i.e. collective responsibility, instead of individual responsibility.
Plus: just because something is published online, it doesn’t automatically mean it has no truth.
The BBC published articles online. So do most scientific journals. Are they all suspect because they’re online and not on tv? Since when did anything on tv mean it’s more authoritative than any other outlet? She’s heard of Russian propaganda: why does she assume our government doesn’t do the same?

It is absolutely communist and something I deeply disagree with personally. Funnily enough, my mum was denouncing Jeremy Corbyn’s policies back during the 2019 GE as ‘communist’, but apparently coercive medical treatment for the abtract ‘collective effort’ is acceptable. Just goes to show that the psy-op has totally warped people’s minds.

I am in the same boat Poppy – I was hugely saddened to hear my Dad say “we all have to play our part” as if he had fallen for the “we are all in this together” guff spewed out by MSM. My parents watch the MSM news bulletins and believe every word – why would they be lying to us? I keep trying to explain and suggest that we should do our own thing and they just come back with “but that is against the rules” and in my head I am screaming “but the rules are just lies”, but they really do genuinely believe it. The BBC propaganda machine has been incredibly successful.
.

We all have to play our part to reverse something that we never wanted in the first place. Stuff that one Dad.

I am old enough to BE your parent and yet, I have exactly the same problem with mine!!

Woke up this morning to see SAGE members Susan Michie and Prof Janet Lord have been on Newsnight. Edmunds on Marr tomorrow.

They are a fucking nuisance, aren’t they?

Yes, especially ‘Masks are forever’ Edmunds, really hate that guy!

Great article in Office yesterday about Edmunds and Mitchell deeply deeply vested pharmaceutical interests. Well worth a read

Do you have a link to the article?

I’ll post it. Give me an hour as can’take at the moment.

Thanks in advance!

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/18/the-modelling-paper-mafiosi/

Thanks, unbelievable, recommended reading!!

Fortunately the viewing figures for news night are dismal

So sad. We have not seen much of our 5 year old grandson since the tail end of last year despite living only 10 mins from each other. He’s a single child and has had some ‘essential worker’ schooling but is desperately missing contact with school friends and cousins of similar age.

My daughter tells us he was watching late afternoon tv and said to his mother – could he go and see ‘Pointless’ the tv show. Mum asks why and he says he just wanted to sit in an audience.

It made me well up inside. So much damage knowingly being done at all levels of society by so many who don’t care a jot.

Great post and sad. What amazing things children say.

Poor little mite – so desperate for contact that he’d even take just sitting by a lot of people to get it. I know the feeling – even as an adult (that would promptly decide which person sitting near me looked the chattiest and start up a conversation if I could).

Always been a law abiding citizen and now we have this lot on their ego/power trip ignoring the law and expecting us to abide by what they say. Anyone can use the ‘unprecedented’ excuse, but they had the time to dish out the contracts and not in a random way, in fact they look carefully selected, so they had the time to do it legally. Drain the swamp and do it well, is what I say.

Yes and start now!

The people who hid Anne Frank

were breaking the law

The people who killed her

were following it

True.

I see the latest good news from the buffoon is we can see our family outside in April. Hate to tell him, but I have had my kids over for dinner two or three times a week since day one. I have seen my 80 year old parents once or twice a week since day one.
No lying and manipulative government has and will stop that.
I didn’t do test and trace, never had a test and will not. My kids are all key workers, worked every day since day one, neither of them has had a test or do test and trace either.
My parents are now jabbed, my children under 30 so next to no risk. I and my wife are mid 50s so more chance of getting and dying of something more horrible.
Life goes on despite the buffoon believing him and hand job are running the country.
We are all dying it just depends how much you enjoy yourself and quality of life until the day comes.
Keep up the great work buffoon, your day is coming when you and hand job will be held to account.

Well said!

Well said, keep up up the good work.

Very envious of you. I would love to have seen family but sadly they follow the rules to the letter. I wonder how many people are out there who would like to break the rules but can’t because they have no-one to visit who is also willing to break them.

A very good point.

yeh, that’s me. my children live 200 miles away. they are not lockdown believers, but they are afraid of getting fined.

I went on a 200 mile round trip yesterday to my daughters. I took 1 grandchild with me and saw the other two there. I only saw two police cars and they were attending a crash on the A1. ie. doing real police work.

imagine – police doing real police work!!

Us.

Lots Poppy including me and my partner. We offer but get stonewalled including by her father who has always claimed to be a left wing rebellious rebel. When it came to a time to be serious about rebellion he fell at the first post and was revealed to be a charlatan.

Hear Hear – I think we ALL need to break the rubbish “rules” to make them unenforceable and just start living our lives again – what are they going to do?

Thanks, inspiring, note to self: Must try harder.

I would like to meet Johnson outside in April…it would be the last announcement he ever made thats for sure.

Same here John. Have seen my mum who is in her 70’s all the way through, and even before us single people were allowed a ‘bubble’! We both will be travelling down to Brighton tomorrow to see my daughter and her fella (again, have been doing this as normal). I have refused all along to let those shits in power tell me when/where I can see my family!

First story in the Round UP

‘Families will be reunited by Easter: Boris Johnson is set to allow outdoor get-togethers next month under ‘roadmap’ out of lockdown – while pubs could serve outdoors in April’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9279985/Coronavirus-UK-Boris-Johnson-set-allow-outdoor-togethers-early-month.html#comments

Worth looking at to see how hostile the best rated readers comments are.

More evidence I think that people have had enough of this shitshow.

Setting out a roadmap as if they have credibility to run other people’s lives, the story about Hancock is taking off

Dead right about the Hancock story. Best rated readers comments in the Mailonline article are calling for his blood!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9279557/Coronavirus-UK-Matt-Hancock-unlawfully-failed-publish-contract-details.html

I always thought Hancock would be the first to get thrown under the bus, and it will certainly be an enjoyable spectacle to watch his skeleton being crunched under the wheels. a small treat to cheer us up in our relentless misery.

As it has been revealed that Hancock lied to parliament about the vit D trials, and understanding that misleading parliament is a big deal, how come this man is still walking, or has he benefited from some of his chum’s, Blair, teflon status.

He also misled the House when he said the vaccine was given “clinical authorisation.” Not strictly true, authorisation was for temporary emergency supply by the DHSC, not full UK marketing authorisation.

He also said, this is a vaccine “we can all believe in.” yet the Gov own published info. at the time indicates it wasn’t for children. nor for people who have acute severe febrile illness. nor had it been studied in conjunction with any other medication someone might be on. not recommended before or during pregnancy. and any effect on fertility was completely unknown. Subsequently most of Europe decided it wasn’t for anyone over 65 too. So, apart from being factually wrong he was almost correct.

No chance of such a major regime figure going.They can’t afford to have him outside.In normal times this would build up to a crescendo and he would be gone,but we no longer live in a functioning democracy

The comments are very hostile until the censors get to work.I posted yesterday on the Littlejohn article.It was never shown.Also I noticed the comments went from 1700 to around 1000.
Even to believers of this story there is no logical reason why lockdown cannot be lifted now that the vulnerable have been ‘vaccinated’.
After the long phoney war during the winter I feel the next few weeks will begin to get very interesting.

London has some sunshine today and a high of 15 Centigrade. Somewhat spring-like in other words. It is going to be hard to keep people indoors and terrified as we move into Primavera .

As the snake Littlejohn likes to say…’you couldn’t make it up’.

Just shows how drunk on this power he really is.

Saturday’s ‘LOCKDOWN LIMERICK’

We live in a dystopian state,
Where the government gets to dictate,
Who we have in our homes,
What we see on our phones,
These rules I will not tolerate.

A year ago this very day
You could have anyone over to stay
You could dine out in style
And see every smile
Life has become so grey

We live in a political world
Where courage is a thing of the past
Houses are haunted, children are unwanted
The next day could be your last

Back to Normal when all extra-terrestrials are vaccinated…

I got the sense last summer that the Medical Dictatorship were desperately trying to stay ahead of Public Opinion at times and open things up whilst they still had some credibility before mass disobedience amongst the young especially showed their pettifogging rules as unnecessary and their authority as bogus. I am getting that sense again but this time the threat to the Dictatorship is coming more from the elderly vaccinated who expect to get on with what remains of their life now they consider themselves immune. Once they lose their authority this whole thing will collapse in days.

Roll on, oh roll on.

Yeah, and then roll on the trials.

Yeah, and then roll on the t umbrils.

Yes, I think you are right. Basically they think they have been conned, which they have.

I am praying that you are right. that this whole nightmare could just dissolve as suddenly as it sprang up.

The story of the 9-year-old girl typing PLZ I DON’T LIKE THIS is fucking horrendous.

Fuck every cunt who still supports this.

Pandemic Logic

COVID Zealot: People not getting a vaxxine are anti-vaxxers and putting everyone at risk.
Rational person: Have all the people in years past not getting flu vaccines also been anti-vaxxers?

I would be interested to know if you get the experimental jab, and you then get symptoms of SARs, can you pass it on, or as it isn’t a live virus being injected that is not possible.

Well, vaccines can sometimes super-sensitise individuals to subsequent infection and, presumably, in such cases, one would also become a bit of a super-spreader.

I’ve always been a bit dismissive of the threat from ‘mutations’. This morning I watched the interview with Knut Wittkowski linked above. He claims that by slowing transmission, lockdowns have allowed new variants to emerge which bypassed immunity from the original virus, resulting in second ‘waves’ this winter. This would explain why the January peak was higher than many of us probably expected. Anyone have any thoughts on this hypothesis?

Hmm, January is always the peak month for respiratory viruses – with rapid decline thereafter. Nothing to see there!

As influenza seems to have disappeared, maybe January was the usual flu numbers.

January wasn’t any higher than I expected. It helps their narrative when ‘Covid deaths’ are people who died after a positive test. We also have around 4,000 deaths occurring every week in the home, which is around 40-50% of the ‘expected’ number according to the 5 year average, with the last year consistently having 700-800 each and every week above what is considered ‘normal’..

stop trying to make sense of their bullshit. you need to start filtering it out as ‘noise’ – you won’t start to see the truth of what is actually happening until you stop allowing them to distract you from it

There is no proof the January peak was not created from a) PCR tests run at 45 cycles and b) institutional mis-reporting of causes of death.

Well there is because all-cause mortality was still relatively high.

Cheered myself up the other night by watching Fenton again, nine years later, possibly the funniest video ever uploaded to Youtube. It’s only 46 seconds long and nothing even happens in the first third of it yet tears of laughter were streaming down my face by the end. https://youtu.be/3GRSbr0EYYU

Strange; did absolutely nothing for me.

We all have different funny bones I guess.

The middle classes in crisis, always good for a laugh.

Its a sad and manipulative government/parliament who doesn’t want to give a positive spin on what they are/have done, instead allow their Science/BIT team and ministers to prophesy over and over how badly things could still turn out.

Just watching the Australian Open.

There’s something very wrong with people wearing masks when there is apparently zero or minimal community transmission.

What exactly do they think the masks are doing for them?

They’re not thinking

Before their latest stay-at-home palaver, at the start of the tournament, most of the crowd, players and tournament staff were mask-free. I suspect that has changed as a condition of coming out of the latest stay at home phase into a lighter set of restrictions.

Dummies?

Between you and me, they are very ugly, and it’s for our sanity they conceal their hideousness.

We are watching the Americas Cup in New Zealand and it’s the same. These guys who have worked and lived together for months and months, walked out in masks. No crowds allowed……all for 3 cases at a quarantine hotel. I hate this planet.

6 Nations rugby is the same – 1m social distancing btwn players for the national anthems and then they get up close and very personal without wearing masks in the scrums – DAFT!!!!

It’s like warding off the evil eye. Surprised we’re not drowning witches as that seems to be about the level of scientific and social understanding that society’s at.

Ah! Saga…. the company selling overpriced (ripoff) products and services to the elderly. Wouldn’t touch them with a bargepole. They would have to pay me to go on one of their holidays or use any of their services.

Thank goodness a judicial review has succeeded. It is appalling that this is the only way to try to ensure accountability for millions of pounds of our money, but at least it shows that we do still maintain the vestiges of a working justice system.

Surely identifying a problem is only half of the process? We’d need to see Wanksock punished for it to be any sort of justice.

I know, I know. I’m just so deeply depressed by this whole fucking shitshow that I have to cling on to any small ray of light.

Well it’s better than nothing but the reviews about what really mattered – the removal of fundamental freedoms on a flimsy pretext – failed (the Dolan case notably). Lord Sumption was of the view that the case had a lot of merit, and that the Public Health Act 1984 had been misused, and that our constitutional tradition dictated that removing fundamental freedoms must be done explicitly and not by the back door.

Absolutely agree that one small win is only that. But it’s better than another loss. It just feels like we (LS) are in such a small minority that it’s a relief to see even the smallest criticism of government from another source.

I think there is something very odd – going on across whole of justice syst at moment – word I would use to best describe it would be “nobbled”. Supreme Court obviously got nobbled in some way regarding the Covid JR’s and the court which ruled in favour of Megan Markle in her privacy case was obvs also nobbled – less than a week later she announces she is pregnant, and by time case would have been due to be heard she would have been too heavily pregnant to travel to UK for hearing where she, member of royal family, would have been publicly pitted against her Dad spilling all kinds of milk for tabloids to go mad over – couldn’t be allowed to happen so court was nobbled.

The kimono clad Elephant & Castle fox murderer finally doing something useful.

just about.

The people in care homes in March 2020 must be the unluckiest sods I have ever known

First the dictatorship tried to kill them by hurling infected bodies over the walls

Then in a volte face the dictatorship said the guests were not allowed to see uninfected people and subjected to solitary confinement for twelve months

The latest wizzo scheme is to see the guests off with monkey gunk

I’m informed by someone who knows that the dictatorship has plans to award the still alive with medals sponsored by Tony Blair and the Harold Shipman Foundation

This is the irrefutable evidence that LD is not effective. Crude deaths. A definition of pandemic should always include excess deaths. This table shows that for most European countries.

This is not statistics built upon tests, defined cases or C-19 deaths. Those statistics can vary or be manipulated in the worst case scenario. But deaths cannot be easily hidden in these countries.
The table clearly show almost all LD countries with most deaths. Sweden is well below average.
This doesn’t mean that NPI instead of LD are automatically effective. Anyone reading WHO Guidelines 2019 and earlier guidance will be shocked to know how scant any evidence is for NPI.

NPI cannot work for a respiratory virus spread by aerosol.

The spread of the virus has always been described from droplets, surfaces and aeorosol. Nobody has dared to highlight the most important one, aerosol, as this goes against all NPI.

An infected individual breath out millions of particles 24 hour a day. It passes through all masks and the only mask which is effective won’t let you breathe. In the minuscule of time, compared to breathing, when you are sneezing and coughing, masks might stop these droplets although there are concerned reports that this is not effective as the droplet might be fragmented and expelled out of the mask.

There are virus particles in the air mostly 2 m outside the infective patient but a small amount can be spread much longer.

Sweden’s NPI is also useless. But we have the illusion of control and a “something must be done mentality”. The only human intervention possible is treatment, now more possible, or vaccines which will be too late for the second wave. Any NPI will not work for a respiratory virus spread by aerosol.

The table is from this short article with some interesting death comparisons with the flu pandemics,1957 and 1968 in the Nordic countries

http://tt.omni.se/sveriges-dodstal-bland-de-lagre-i-europa/a/LnjG91

English translation

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1362750044328361986

Brilliant! Thank you.

The elephant in the room is, of course, to what extent NPIs may have contributed to those increases in mortality.

Certainly, in Britain, that contribution appears to have been substantial:

‘Via its Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), the government in mid-March adopted a policy, executed by NHS England and NHS Improvement, that led to 25,000 patients, including those infected or possibly infected with COVID-19 who had not been tested, being discharged from hospital into care homes between 17 March and 15 April—exponentially increasing the risk of transmission to the very population most at risk of severe illness and death from the disease. With no access to testing, severe shortages of PPE, insufficient staff, and limited guidance, care homes were overwhelmed. Although care home deaths were not even being counted in daily official figures of COVID-19 deaths until 29 April, some 4,300 care home deaths were reported in a single fortnight during this period.’

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/2020-10/Care%20Homes%20Report.pdf?kd5Z8eWzj8Q6ryzHkcaUnxfCtqe5Ddg6=

It seems clear to me that if the government replicated exactly its interventions of March 2020 for every occurrence of a seasonal coronavirus or other common cold virus, the increase in overall mortality that resulted would be similar.

Except that now medics know how to prevent cytokine storms, the most severe and dangerous symptom.

‘ I think we’ve shown that anyone who presents with COVID symptoms should be given a steroid inhaler.”

‘“We’ve never had a good treatment for the common cold, it does make people sick, especially older people, and perhaps this could be it,” Professor Nicolau said.

“These pandemics are now coming every five years or so, and this treatment should work for the next one, because hyper-inflammation is not particular to COVID, it happens with all respiratory infections.”

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/over-the-counter-inhalers-suppress-severe-covid-symptoms-trial-finds-20210210-p5716m.html

Remind me…….why are we still locked down…….?

Compelling indeed but the lockdown zealots will simply say that if the lockdown countries hadn’t locked down they would have had more deaths. Of course we all know that the burden of proof is on those proposing unorthodox measures, but the confidence trick that has been played in which lockdowns are now considered orthodox is what we are up against. Maybe belief in empirical science was much more fragile than we thought.

Except there are predictions for these very countries using the same models that support the “it would be worse” scenario. And they are all out by an order of magnitude at least and even taking on board the vague attributions to Covid.

Indeed but we are up against sunk cost fallacy and groupthink here

The case illustrates one of the many issues with the response to COVID-19. Yes there was an emergency,

no, there fucking wasn’t.

Yes, this place is going down the pan. I’m only here for the beer BTL comments now.

A short emergency caused by understandable (given CCP obfuscation) ignorance but one that should be long gone.

nope, it was clear from the Italian reports, presuming you read past the fear mongering, that it was not in any way an emergency.

I give the government 3 weeks grace.After that it was obvious that this wasn’t a particularly dangerous virus.Then they should have opened up with no restrictions at all.Just told people to stay at home if they felt sick and wash your hands.

Yes!

Agreed, the paper from the doctors at the Italian ‘epicentre’ made that clear (more infectious but less deadly than normal was the main conclusion) but a few weeks fog of war and all that given the CCP obfuscation and their 50 cent army psyop is understandable in retrospect. Forgivable is another matter.

Papa Giovanni XXIII Hospital, Bergamo.

Agreed. It seemed fairly clear to me, by the start of lockdown 1, looking at data from the Diamond Princess cruise ship and the situation in Italy that it wasn’t as serious as the initial reports suggested and that a full lockdown was unnecessary.

One of the failings of all the LDS authors is the inability to recognise the simple process of measuring things correctly.

I bet each one would be up in arms if their bank told them they owe £10,000. Because you’d just look at the statements wouldn’t you? But say you don’t have the statements and the bank uses a model to estimate what you owe.

You’d still want to see statements because the basic principle is the same. Why couldn’t the bank produce statements down to the penny?

So equally why can you not show how other respiratory ailments have been eliminated and that the diagnosis of Covid-19 has much less uncertainty? Oh that’s right you can’t because it always was vague by definition and they changed the reporting rules on death certificates too.

Hmm so right from the bat there’s something wrong.

And thus you can’t say it’s an emergency, at least a real one.

I sat on a bench at my local cricket club yesterday morning.Around my bench were empty beer cans, vodka bottles and God knows what. Was I appalled at these litter louts? No, I secretly rejoiced that they had gone out, defying the lockdown, met some mates, and got pissed, like teenagers used to.
Btw I then picked up their rubbish and put it in a bin.

Earlier this week went for a walk, at one point I went over a river bridge, I was surprised to see a lone body way down the river bank, amazing this person was fishing.

This leisure activity is verboten under current level 4, although all leisure activities seems to be banned in some way.

I hope he caught a decent sized fish to tell family and friends about, not my idea of leisure but each to their own.

Fishing IS permitted, as is believe it or not, shooting – Unfortunately though shooting cabinet ministers is still verboten:)

This person was getting some enjoyment out of life, illegal or not.

Just checked and indeed individuals can go fishing but not be part of a group, so no matches etc.

I may take up fishing as this sounds like an ideal way to spend a couple of nights in a small tent on the river bank, doubt I would be allowed a nights wild camping on Kinder Scout.

I love that story. I know I was enlightened when about 300 young people went sledging locally.

Good for them having a good time)we hope) and you for clearing up after them.

Lets hope they got up to some other things that defied social distancing too lol.

I lost my temper this morning on the railway forum I visit. Loads of lockdown zealots, very pro masks and now totally inexplicably pro vaccine passports. OK, quite a few of them have had the virus in not pleasant ways. I imagine I will be banned from there….

Whatever the dangers of Covid itself, and I don’t deny those, the very thought of a vaccine passport fills me with the utmost rage. We are already at the stage where the chances of meeting somebody infected is quite low and yet the Covid police are suggesting we will have to keep away from others and wear silly things on our faces as if we were lepers. Most of us want to live a normal life and the longer this nonsense is drawn out – the government has clearly no intention of giving in – the less will I have to exist in this very unfriendly place.

Covid is not the only disease in the world and will hopefully very soon be history. But there won’t be a world to go back to if we carry on like this. Or a railway, you can’t keep running empty trains for ever.

Come over to the DMU pres forums, we’re very relaxed there!

If ever you wanted to see a forum of highly opinionated “experts” forming cliques and running hate campaigns against people, go to a railway enthusiast forum.

Speaking from experience of being excluded from so many of them that I don’t bother anymore.

SS (77th) out in force, eh?

You think railway fans are bad, you should try the campervan idiot forum….

No question that the NHS needs reform. And, I agree, it also needs more funding

But:

‘…. it would also be nice if we could simply discuss the performance of different healthcare systems in the same hysteria-free way in which we currently discuss the performance of different education systems, or the productivity performance of different economies. And who knows, maybe we will get there one day.’ (Kristian Niemietz, CAPX Reference above)

However, even on LS if I recommend an outline for such reform, and increased funding, based on what works for our neighbours, safe to say such recommendations, involving, as they do, some form of social insurance scheme, are not popular, even though the evidence supports them:

‘ In terms of outcomes, quality and efficiency, social health insurance systems are consistently ahead of the NHS on almost every available measure. They combine the universality of a public system with the consumer sovereignty, the pluralism, the competitiveness and the innovativeness of a market system.’

https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Niemietz-NHS-Interactive.pdf

But again, how did our own funding system for the NHS start out?

‘The National Insurance Act 1911 formed the basis of NI as we know it today, albeit on a considerably different basis……..

There were two individual schemes at that point in time, one dealing with health and pension benefits and the other associated with unemployment benefit. The former was run by trusted societies and unions whilst the latter was a scheme controlled solely by the government.’

‘This soon changed with the arrival of the ‘welfare state’ in 1948, which heralded the homogenisation of the separate stamps resulting in one singular stamp to cover all benefits.’

https://www.cipp.org.uk/resourceLibrary/national-insurance-history-and-application.html

So Britain started off with a social insurance system for healthcare and then government intervention made it worse………and we still pay national insurance……..

Sounds a bit like the bungling Democratic Socialist government incompetence we have witnessed at first hand over the last twelve months.

Too much of the money spent on NHS/Moloch goes on salaries for hangers on like of the appalling Hopson and biscuits (poor Sir Tom’s charity efforts). There is no hope of significant reform of the national cult with any of our craven politicians so we are doomed to be tethered to this mill stone for eternity.

Any fucker stupid enough not to have visited family and friends almost 12 months into this lockdown deserves all they get,no moaning and bitching about being hard done to and life’s not fair,it’s ass holes like them that’s kept this shit show rolling along.. Feeling sorry for your self because you have stuck by the rules and people with real balls have said fuck the rules and carried on living..

Absolutely, all this wearing a mask, having the vax, staying home to protect others is a load of crap. Looking after themselves and moaning every minute. I hope the vax wipes the lot of them out.

It’s not so easy when your family are so terrified by this hysteria they refuse to meet.

I know what you are saying, BR, but I am sure I am not the only person who would have been more than happy to visit, socialise and hug more than ever if only their friends and family were of the same mind. I feel sorry for myself because I have no one to break the rules with!

Yes you have a fair comment there my friend all of my friends and family are sceptics those that weren’t I fucked of so I don’t tend to have the problems you do..

How is the Marshall today B R ?!

Just giving him time to settle in and then we will unleash the hounds..

How do you locate them? Do you follow them home lol.

Yes I fucked them off too and don’t regret it.

You’re correct of course, feel pretty feeble but at least grandchildren visited with cake on my birthday in June (granddaughter fell into Stonebridge Pond but her mum fished her out and we only broke one champagne glass in all the excitement).

Agree completely! I have continued as normal with my family (apart from my brainwashed Dad who lives a fair way from me). That’s no big issue though

But who with when no one else will?! I’m seeing my mum and I’m going out every day and there is one other family we know who will allow kids to play indoors but that’s the limit. I can’t rebel because I’ve got literally nowhere to go and no one to rebel with.
That’s actually one of the worst things about this. Everywhere is closed and everyone is compliant so what choice do I have? I post on SM, I write to my fucking useless MP, I make clear in conversations that I think this is all fucking ridiculous but what else???

So the blubberment is following the séance so that they can continue the war on Covid the people.

Points for ‘blubberment’, v. good!

Thanks.

Looking at the MHRA Yellow Card deaths from vaccines to 10 Feb – Astra 150, Pfizer 173 – I wonder whether these are picking up all deaths as a result of vaccination.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions
ONS data shows that care home & hospice deaths ‘with Covid’ rose from a fairly steady 500/600 per week in Nov/Dec to, for the 4 weeks of January: 1,033; 1,375; 1,958; 1,870. That’s an excess over the Nov/Dec run rate of about 3,700 for those 4 weeks alone.
1.      Why the increase, which coincided with the vaccination programme in care homes?
2.      Does taking the vaccine make it likely that you will test +ve for Covid shortly afterwards?
3.      Are care homes being strong-armed into NOT filing Yellow Card reports, even if they suspect that a death following vaccination was linked to the vaccination?
MHRA say, a la Mandy Rice-Davies:
“The MHRA has received 173 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 150 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 3 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified.
The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.”

I note in the case of the Pfizer report five women suffered spontaneous abortions and these abortions have not been included in the fatality totals.

if we are to make an informed choice about vaccination we must be able to compare risk which means that the method of counting Covid deaths and vaccine deaths should be similar. They are not, Covid deaths are based on a death within 28 days of a positive test and they want us to count vaccine deaths only after review. So not comparable so I can’t make an informed decision.

Folks – it is Charles Walker MP who has asked people to write to him about their mental health under the current restrictions, right?

Yes, and do it. Several of us here have.

Thanks RP. Have started writing it now.

If you don’t have it, here is his email address.

charles.walker.mp@parliament.uk

Thanks Isobar

It was referenced in this Channel 4 News report:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1362406296390164482

I come to LS because I believe that lockdowns are not a proportionate response to the pandemic and do more harm than good. Unfortunately at times, it has become an echo chamber at best and a meeting place for some quite radical views at worst.

Assuming that at least one goal of most visitors is to see the return of normality we have to realise that the public have to be brought along. I now inhabit the readers comments sections on The Times and The Telegraph (student discount). I think the Daily Mail would be a good target but my computer bogs down with all the pop ups and ads. The aim is to reply to or pose a question to an easily disputable statement. For example vaccine passports – why necessary when the published data (link to The Lancet or NEJM) doesn’t demonstrate nor was designed to demonstrate an effect on transmission. Lockdown release in months – why when the vulnerable are all protected and will likely only get mild symptoms are we locking down when the NHS will not be affected?

If and when I get ad hominen attacks I usually ignore them and leave if for other readers to decide. So, basically a system of providing decent evidence (not links to newspapers) and hopefully one by one leading to eventually a ground swell of opinion changing. That leaves this site to swap ideas as how to influence opinion and provide evidence.

I think a lot of people on here spend time commenting on MSM sites and trying to persuade friends, colleagues and random people of the harms and futility of lockdown. I know I do.

As for “quite radical views at worst” well it depends what you mean by “radical” and “worst”. If you simply mean things you yourself don’t agree with then you may in the wrong place because the site’s sponsor is the founder of the Free Speech Union. If you mean views arguably likely to harm our case with the wider public, then you may be right in some cases – it’s a question of tactics. But if people believe those views are the truth then they should be aired.

Unfortunately, I am way WAY down the road of trying to present rational arguments with a view to coaxing these people. I have been met with – at best – indifference. At worst, hostility and disgusting threats. Really vile language that should really be abhorrent to anyone with any morals. Some of these people are professionals who should know better.

So, yeah you could say my views have become a bit more extreme. Ultimately you can’t go in too hard when you are on solid, truthful, ethical ground. I leave the insults to them but I will not hold back one iota on my judgement of them.

Apache: I appreciate how you feel but my advice is to surf the waves on here. It is a comments page and as such will be full of odd stuff. But it is also packed with useful links. great comments and heartfelt support. Stay with it and ignore what you don’t like or disagree with — you will be greatly appreciated.

Pleased to see that Bel Mooney’s excellent (but sad) article in today’s Daily Mail has been moved close to top of website page.
(Sorry, I’m an old biddy & don’t know how to do links ).

Article is Here as i was just passing

Hopefully not!

Just read it and it says everything we’ve known all along, but it’s really good to see it in the MSM, make the sheeple see it and take it in!

Did anyone else have the same thought as me whilst reading the article……the care home had had NO covid cases at all for all of 2020, and nothing at all up to the lockdown this year when they closed the doors to everyone. However when her father declined the vaccine, suddenly the care home had Covid cases…..errrr so that will be due to the vaccine rollout at the care home then! Then they go on to mention a spate of deaths in the dementia wing of the care home. Well 2+2 = ??????

Absolutely extraordinary article! Proof as if it were needed.

To one old biddy grom another. Yes read the same thing butI did wonder why it took her so long to realise.

Hopefully many zealots willwho read this and then begin to wonder or even think

Joe Biden announced yesterday that America had rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement.

As part of his speech he declared climate change as an existential threat to humanity.

If you think what they’ve done to protect 1% of humanity is bad, there is nothing they won’t do to protect the whole human race.

You ain’t seen nothing yet…

Except that it’s the same 1% or more likely 0.1%, poor brown people can go hang and carry on shitting in the street as long as I can tool around in my Tesla.

Some interesting data from Joel Smalley:

https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/status/1363047459577077762?s=20

If correct, it also shows that Mike Yeadon was right. The “second wave” is the standard flu peak. Even the first one is Covid Measures rather than Covid. If we are getting the standard flu peak in Autumn/Winter then we have reached herd immunity.

The question then is what is causing the spike up in the last month. Could be a secondary flu peak as we get these in January at times.

“ what is causing the spike up in the last month”

… is indeed the question. The spike is difficult to explain, and is higher and sharper than expected (I reckon about 2000 – 13-15% dpw higher at the peak). But one thing’s for sure – lockdowns, masks and vaccines didn’t prevent it.

I wonder if it’s iatrogenics? Direct death by failure of medical care. There are numerous staff shortages so effectively the NHS is fire fighting for the last month. And you know what happens when you do that.

Rollout of immune suppressing vaccines in the vulnerable.

Sometimes I think the class needs catch-up sessions! You can’t put ‘Covid deaths’ on a graph, because we don’t (and never will) know the figures.

You can put ‘PCR+ results’ or ‘attributed to COvid’ on a graph.

VERY good point!

If it’s a graph using ONS data then using ONS categories is the most honest approach. The result is damning either way.

Oops already posted below

I don’t know about anyone else, but this shitty news about allowing one person to meet another outside in April makes me want to end it now. This is never going to end, and the sheeple just don’t see it.

Its all very well saying well just see friends/family anyway, but as someone else said, if those friends/family are brainwashed sheeple then who the hell do you see? We haven’t seen either set of parents now since last year (mine are a long way away). Discovered recently my SIL is one of those twats that wears a mask whilst outside exercising- so I never EVER want to see or speak to her again. Just thinking about her makes me incandescent with rage.

Locally we fair slightly better, our elderly neighbours down the lane come for coffee regularly and we go to theirs. We had lunch at our other friends about 40 min away yesterday and again, do so on a regular basis – although they are sheeple they only follow the rules that suit them – I had a screaming row with them in the recent past.

The ones that have upset me the most are our closest friends who we saw constantly from day one through all the lockdowns/tiers etc, having dinners/coffees etc. This time round they seemed to have been spooked (I suspect from supposed cases in the local village) and have hidden away in their isolated cottage, even though we are both rural and not seeing anyone anyway, they won’t come over to us or invite us to see them. It’s these guys I miss the most because it was the only time I ever laughed or smiled.

I had just started to think we were seeing some chinks of light in the darkness, but today I feel it’s just never ever going to change.
Am I deluded in hoping this latest shitty piece of carrot might actually be the thing that makes the 1922 committee take some decisive action?

If there was a bloody place we could go to take a deadly jab to kill us off, I’d be queuing up there right now!!

Sorry, bad day.

“ allowing one person to meet another outside”

Oh! Is that what the sociopathic arseholes think isn’t happening now?

It is incredibly stupid, and even the theory needs resisting. But just let them go on dreaming their mentally unbalanced dreams. If some want to go along with the feverish delusions, I guess there’s not much we can do.

Hang in there RP, you’ll be dancing on laughter-silvered wings again soon!

Thanks Biggles, that means a lot.

Sorry you’re having a bad day, but don’t apologise.

I’m holding on fact that the sheeple who believed the “promise” that once the vulnerable were vaccinated (and mostly they have as well has many more), see that is not the case, will finally come round to seeing the true horrors of what the government is doing.

I may be naive, as I have been disappointed on numerous occasions, but I live in hope (for the time being).

Thanks guys, you are all right of course and I really don’t know what I would have done without this site and you guys giving your support.

I hope things do change but today the normality of 2019 feels like a dream I once had and we will never see life like that again.

sadly RP I think that is actually part of the Plan, lifted straight out of the A Hitler playbook. Keep bribing the little people with hope of jam tomorrow until they have been in this mire for so long they can no longer remember what life was like before all this and will have lost the desire to go “back” to it. Going back is clearly not an option

Hold tight, RP and keep looking forward to those social occasions (however limited they are). Something that has given me hope in recent days is my zealot, lunatic cousin finally complaining about all the stress on her family and child. She even thinks she has broken a couple of rules (she hasn’t, but she has made up additional ones of her own to ehance the masochistic thrill) and I have been encouraging her no end to put her family first.

I’m not putting much faith in the 1922 – they haven’t followed through so far, but they do have the potential to turn this all around and there is nothing wrong with us being hopeful as long as we are also braced for disappointment. I feel absolutely broken much of the time and think “I can’t keep doing this”, but I can and I will – nothing lasts forever. Knowing that you and other here are also slogging it out, despite feeling battered half to death gives me hope too. As Lindy says, don’t apologise! Let it all out.

I know you’re having a bad day, but please count your blessings – you have mentioned more social interactions there than I have had the opportunity for in a very long time. Many of us are more isolated than you are right now, so although things look bleak, please know you aren’t doing so badly on that front.

I know that you have other stresses to deal with, and enormous financial concerns – I get that, and I feel for you. Some days we just need to grit our teeth and hold on. Please hold on. Things will get better.

Gosh, is meeting up with one other person not allowed at the moment?? I’ve been doing it for months!

And sorry you’re having a bad day. But spring is coming, snowdrops in bloom, daffs coming out, some lambs now in the forest, new life everywhere for mother nature at least. Things will get better for us too

The shortest 13 weeks (which I call Winter) finished on Feb 5th so we are now just in to the third week of Spring and, as you quite rightly say, don’t those beautiful flora and fauna know it!!!

Are you a working example of the proof that their plan is working?

But regardless the past, you are the capacity to choose to no longer be played with by such deceits.
And so you can choose to accept everything as an education instead of persisting in playing along with a scam as the victim. Nothing can deny you the truth that you are willing to let be revealed to you. But the desire to know has to have some basis in true fulfilment – or joy in life.

‘Reality’ has disintegrated to lies and deceits. Or rather what we have lived can no longer be supported, and we have to find the place from which to live when what we thought was true is not here. Blame or self-pity will compound the grievance and powerlessness. There are some disciplines to accept by which to align in what works – just on the responsibility for energy and purpose.

Bottoming out is the opportunity to release what does not work and cannot work, to the revealing and acceptance of what does, one step at a time. If you want to die, then of course you can bring it on. But what this often means is under a set of terms and conditions we are unwilling to change or release – not least because of the convictions that lockdown into grievance, withholding and conditional demands.

If you give your power to the world of conditions, you will ‘die’ when conditions change as a reset of old separation patterns of trauma in betrayal and pain of loss. You know how to ‘do’ this, but do you know how to reconnect to the nature of your being? You CAN release your ‘story’ to a relationship with something or someone alive. In any moment of recognition of the opportunity to be the choice.

Too much Inflammation does not serve the ability to make wise decisions. No matter what is apparently ‘going on’ you are responsible to keep your house in order. If you are still watching TV output at this time I ask you if you have a death wish or a propensity to hate and demean yourself? For that is what is being fed as mainstreamed mind.

Live this day well!

WE have to end it.
Get busy.
Ignore the guff .
Don’t give up until there is nothing else possible and then take one of the conspirators with you if you can. (I would prefer to lead them away from the disaster that confronts us, but so far I have had little success.)

Post stickers, pamphlets, flyers, leaflets with priority for Great Reopening March 20.

THE GREAT REOPENING 20TH MARCH (bitchute.com)

unfortunately I don’t see any think like that happening where I live – we have been told we will be locked down until after easter when “they” will review it and people seem to think that is a “good thing” and we should comply with the rules

How many people needlessly died because Hancock deliberately went out of his way to discredit Vitamin D

“The health secretary told the Commons last week that he had ordered a trial that showed vitamin D did not “appear to have any impact”. Officials now admit that no trials took place .”

https://twitter.com/MaizyDaizyZzzz/status/1362832000911032323

They can do whatever they want – nobody will ever personally punish them!

Holy shit (parson my french). Put together with yesterday’s legal ruling, how much longer can this guy hold on to his position?

His handlers will elbow him when the time is right

The BBC will determine his future as it will all of ours. The BBC and Hancock’s advisors are in the pay of Gates, so nothing will happen to any of them .
Democracy? – shamocracy!.

Isn’t misleading Parliament a sackable offence? The felonies are racking up

And this is the man who whimpered in Parliament that his “step-grandfather” had died from covid, giving him a personal insight into the grief caused. The ‘step-grandfather’ turned out to be his step father’s first wife’s husband. It seems very doubtful that Hancock had even met the guy. Again, he lied to Parliament and knew it.

used to be in days of yore – but that was then and this is now.

Indeed, but the pharma led suppression of Vit D is almost a century old. The sudden sense of ‘entitlement’ to a true education is itself a symptom of a sickness management system.
Don’t wait from official recognition or sanction for truth to become true. And don’t give credibility to ‘truth manufacturing’ systems of possession and control in our name.

This story is old – but worthy or being reminded.
Adequate Vit D is probably the cheapest and simplest single factor that would actually allow ‘immune function’ to optimally operate against seasonal respiratory sickness challenges.

The business of profiting from sickness is the single greatest threat to health – and includes profiting from the inflammation of conflicts and wars.

Blood on his hands.

Oh my god the criminal level of deceit that is involved and no sanction – they think they are completely invincible – what on earth do we do about this??? my taxes are paying them!!!

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/02/20/latest-news-291/#comments

“Stay Sceptical. Control the hysteria. Save lives”.

Scepticism is a questioning that seeks further evidence before accepting or rejecting an appearance or assertion as a fact. It is a stepping stone. To persist in questioning an assertion that is revealed to be a deceit, is to give reality to the deceit rather than releasing it to see what is really here.

Hysteria needs to be checked from feeding on itself but the inducement to panic has been deliberately and persistently intended for the purpose of control. Fear, once checked, calls to be undone or healed as a result of the truth revealing. The mind control is the nature of the problem, not the answer.

Save lives. Awareness and appreciation of life is where we know, flow and be the life that we both have and share. The saving of life from destructive deceit is not a mere statistic for the prolongation of misery in captivity. The term ‘save lives’ is a sure-fire no-brainer by which to enlist the willingness to blindly follow an agenda because it assigns such a term as a slogan. The appreciation of life as freedom to be and the expression and unfolding of the potentials of our being is a basis for saving us from a living death.

At the level of the body, the persona, and the world of its story and development of themes, explorations and experience, everyone dies. Has ever a life been ‘saved’ from the mortal condition? Only if the recognition of Life as timeless awakens beneath the masking, filtering denials that structure the capacity to experience the focus we call alive in the world. Materialism, in its general sense is the assigning of reality outside the reality of Self, to become its cause and definer, rather than its imaged symbol of mythic construct. To those who deny light, darkness is real, and they cannot see life though it all about them. Much of what is invoked to ‘save’ is the reiteration of a distancing or separating of denial or lockdown to a private masking narrative dictate. For to fear given power, hiding is ‘salvation’ and the mask through which to persist a self-conflicted agenda as ‘survival’ that masks in the forms of life as the means to steal your life by the substitution of a false for true.

Conflict agenda which is where a private wish or willing is given priority over true relation, such as to effectively bias, distort and filter experience at cost to awareness of the whole.
This becomes the denial and attack on truth as the means to save the ‘bubble reality’ of a private self seeking self-reinforcement as mutual narrative ‘identity’. Thus our good intentions can be assigned to ‘save’ our fear in self-illusion from the disclosure of the opportunity for its correction, undoing or healing.

https://willingness-to-listen.blogspot.com/2021/02/questioning-narrative-definitions.html

The above video says it all. What about the rest of us?

Morning all, some very interesting listening here, nothing most of us haven’t heard before, sustainable development, global governance, a lot of it is unfolding in front of us and the sleepwalkers are in for a big surprise.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aprgXKrZfjPS/

REALITY BYTES TALKS WITH UK AGENDA 21 / AGENDA 2030 RESEARCHER SANDI ADAMS

I’ve stumbled on reality bytes again after hearing a podcast in August with Alan Watt (personally I listen to Alan watt’s weekly podcast, might be a bit far out for some). Some interesting conversations though to mull over.

There is also mention of human capital bonds, with Tony Bliar’s fingerprints all over it.

https://wrenchinthegears.com/2021/01/10/population-health-human-capital-bonds-and-black-america/

http://theirishsentinel.com/

I still cling to the hope that the technocrats will destroy each other and can’t organise a piss up in a brewery.

Over and out

Alan Watt (Cuttingthroughthematrix) is a legend, I have listened to him for years. Sandi Adams is great too, she is really well clued-up about Agenda 2030. She has done a few shows with Mark Windows.

Correct

funny video

https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1362823186124075013

https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1362819644143394819

Are you seriously suggesting it’s bent?

This is exactly the kind of information that all these so called “independent” experts must be compelled to declare for all to see on all media appearances, tv, radio, print, social media

I’m sure majority of people don’t realise the extent of potential conflicts of interest, which must be transparent for all to see, not just hidden away.

Cui bono

And they have still ignored GAVI. – $4.2 billion worldwide.

https://www.gavi.org/operating-model/gavis-partnership-model/bill-melinda-gates-foundation

Defund the Dictatorship

In future whatever the activity or the purchase the first question I will ask myself is does this provide revenue to the Dictatorship

If the answer is yes then I will aim not to take part or purchase

I know it is impossible to 100% avoid taxation but I will try my best

Lockdown Sceptic Legend: Sir Rocco Forte

‘I support calls for a new Public Health Act to prevent government from overreaching its powers in the future. A new act should require proper impact assessments and force ministers to set out to the public and to parliament the benefits and harms of each proposed restriction. It is time to end the creeping authoritarianism, return to normal democratic processes and hold the government to account.’

DT 20 Feb 2021

Agreed, another great article by him.

One can have a dream.

Nice to see Jonathan “jaB-ARR-the-nut” did a more sceptical LDS today, back on track, I guess he most have got long covid or just went a bit funny for the last few months.

Who picked “Sadness” by RDF in the tunes for the day?

RDF are probably my most favourite band ever, I grew up with these people and especially the band they grew out of, Military Surplus. Backin the old days, both bands were the sound-track to every free festival and party I went to.I see Crass sneaks in there a few times too. Nice.

This didn’t go to plan PimlicoPlumbers

https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1362472852616790016

So funny, Pimlico very defensive and name-calling…

It was meant to be a simple poll not a platform for anti-vaxxers to spout their conspiracy theories.

https://twitter.com/PimlicoPlumbers/status/1362438390872948739

The real answer is probably ‘couldn’t care less either way’ but that wasn’t an option

LOL. That’s a well deserved smack in the eye!

Sounds like they were trying to just get publicity out of it. I had a boiler engineer out before Christmas to fix my boiler and when he said did I want him to wear a mask I said dont be so silly. So I certainly wouldnt care if they were vaccinated or not. In fact if I knew their boss was trying to enforce an experimental treatment onto their employees then id try and use a different company.

*latest news*

From next Tuesday, couples living in Wales will be allowed to have sex with one person from another household. Couples will not be required to socially distance, but masks must be worn throughout the activity, which will be monitored via webcam by a new unit headed up by the First Minister’s son.

Speaking last night, Mark Drakeford said “Vaughan (Gethin) and I will be watching very closely”

Is sex with another household mandatory or voluntary?

Do we get to choose the household?

This is guidance, so voluntary unless it’s Christmas or your birthday. You can choose any household, but obviously you should “stay local to protect the NHS”

Brilliant, my second name is Vaughan so, as a special favour, can I choose one of Herr Gethin’s family to act as hot water bottle?

If I’d paid for a faux leather sofa from The World of Arthur Dayley Furniture Ltd last March, and been promised delivery in three weeks, and even if the factory had had ‘Covid’ difficulties, even if things had got lost in the post, even if the dog had eaten the original order, even if the original sofa had been damaged in delivery to the warehouse, even if the warehouse had unfortunately burned down, twice, and even if Arthur had had to source it from another manufacturer …. even, even if I was still waiting for an unspecified delivery date a year later, then I think I may now be telling Mr Dayley to shove his sofa up his arse, and looking for a new supplier, and wringing my money out of somewhat surprised and disappointed looking Mr Dayley. After all his efforts on my behalf, I mean, such ingratitude!

The world is your lobster.

Europe is your whelk.

Teredo borer more like. (A species of saltwater clam, not many people know that including me until they were found in my boat)

Pandemic Logic

People in Europe are now generally more free than in the UK.

The reason is that they don’t have a vaccine programme to protect.

Johnson wants the uk population to be 10-15m and he’s actually doing it.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/opinion/why-is-boris-johnson-destroying-britain

Good morning! I have just read that great article by Sinead Murphy. However, in defence of online teaching I should say that I’m currrntly taking an online diploma in acting at the Gaiety School in Dublin. It’s absolutely amazing and I’m enjoying it so much. I think drama teaching can work really well online if the teacher knows how to do it. I also believe that my online primary school students are getting a bit more attention from me than they do in normal class as I’m lucky enough to have only two at a time. I’m a learning Support Teacher so I have been allocated only the weaker students. One in particular made unbelievable progress last spring and summer. Of course it’s not ideal but experience has shown me that it can work.

Teaching is one thing – social development is another. Children should play with other children

I didn’t realise that the 77th operated in the Republic of Ireland.

Yes Bertie in some situations I imagine it can work. One on one tuition always works best in whatever forum but for my teenagers online learning is inadequate (though the school and teachers are trying very hard) and I believe they are learning hardly anything. As well as the impact on their social and physical development.

Of course online teaching and other things can work when used in the correct way, but that’s really neither here nor there in the context of human life being forced online based on the coronapanic lies and tyranny

Warren Bennis distinguished Education from Training, the latter can be done online but not the former. “Training is good for dogs” quoth Warren “because we desire obedience from them.”

As a former college teacher (in the US, not the UK), I believe the element of choice is the most important thing. Obviously, choice does not enter into the current situation.

I’ve taught in person and online, in more recent years (before the pandemic). Students who do well online are usually at the top of the class anyway and may actually feel held back in an in-person course. They would naturally choose online sessions (and not these stupid Zoom things I’ve seen – horrible).

When I taught in person, I often noticed these students working ahead during class and left them alone to get on with it. For the remaining 90% of students, online education is a disaster. And I’m only talking about college students. For young children, it’s just plain child abuse.

Thanks for publishing the work of Glen Bishop and now Derek Winton, and thanks to them and others for it. I have a couple questions about the Imperial model which perhaps they or someone else could answer:

• is it just a coincidence that 68000000 x 0.833333 x 0.009 = 510000 ?
• the files on github supporting the latest prediction of ~130K further deaths include the effective IFR’s used for each age group. To your knowledge, does the model take account of the fact that regardless of age group, people with serious health conditions are prioritised for vaccination, and that therefore the agegroup-average IFR should not be applied equally to an entire age cohort at any one time-point?
• How did anyone ever manage to predict 96K deaths for Sweden using the Imperial model? Even if you accept assumed Imperial’s IFR, and assume that every single person in Sweden gets infected, there aren’t enough people in the country to write “Covid” on more than 91254 death certificates. The calculation above would predict 75K.

I’ve had no response from Imperial on the second point.

As I type, I see in the scrolling comments that someone is fantasising about Mark Drakeford monitoring webcams. Truly the looming mental health crisis will be worse than anyone feared…

So Wankcock acted unlawfully. What will happen to him now? Demotion? Sacking? A big fine? Imprisonment? Nah – course not. A nice fat pay rise and a few more lucrative PPE contracts for his mates no doubt.

Don’t forget the knighthood….bound to happen.

Parents will be testing their kids to enable them to go to school with these lateral flow tests, how many will just swab something else and not their child, as they cant afford the time off work if the test is positive, faking the tests, I would think a huge amount will do this?

Yep a different household object every time.Thats my plan

There is a very powerful word that until more people learn to wield its great power we are never getting out of this. Its easy to remember its only two letters – ‘no’.

I know ‘no’ may have consequences we don’t like. They will be nothing compared to the consequences of not using it.

This is why the first test is administered by a teacher. It is to force your ‘consent’ to the real thing at least once.

All must submit. That is the overriding priority. Submission.

Suggest they swab colloidal silver or hydrogen peroxide drops otherwise they might still get a positive result

The best however is to refuse to test

This new published article interesting. Lot of research to use this IAV defective particles in influenza antiviral treatment. They seem to work on the innate immunity interferon and this article shows an astonishing good effect on Sars-Cov2.Potential treatment in the future.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.19.431972v1

Antiviral activity of influenza A virus defective interfering particles against SARS-CoV-2 replication in vitro through stimulation of innate immunity

“These results suggest an unspecific stimulation of the innate immunity by IAV DIPs as a major contributor in suppressing SARS-CoV-2 replication. Thus, we propose IAV DIPs as an effective antiviral agent for treatment of COVID-19, and potentially also for suppressing the replication of new variants of SARS-CoV-2”

Nauseous — FBook promoting User picture frames – NHS colours with I want/have been jabbed around them.
Can this government stoop any lower?

ps sorry if already posted but I’m not a frequent FB user

Is it just me or does anyone else think that this if just yet another example of the continued infantilisation of the Great British public? It’s like earning a badge at the fucking Brownies!

Yes

Oh I saw that somewhere. How absolutely disgusting!

Just noticed the mother-in-law is proudly showing his on her profile picture now. In my opinion its just saying “I dont understand what the “vaccine” is or does”

Boris is a tyrant – everyone is asking what’s the point of vaccines if you can’t reopen? I say the point of the vaccine is mass genocide. When will the people rise up

Let’s hope people will start getting the message. After all he did say once the vulnerable were vaccinated things would get back to normal. Surely it’s as plain as day now that he is a bloody liar!

Possibly, the same with the tests.

Comment on the below new article saying the obvious. T cells immunity paramount importance and to think natural infection is less or inferior to vaccine is ridiculous.

“It’s not only spike Ab, folks. “the combination of all five viral antigen pools induced the strongest cellular immune response” “the critical role of cellular immunity in fighting COVID-19 and the importance of analyzing anti-SARS-CoV-2 T cell response”

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.17.431750v1.full.pdf

A glimpse into the diverse cellular immunity against 2 SARS-CoV-2

Dear Dierdre

I am considering taking the vaccine in order to protect my elderly parents who sadly passed away some years ago

I wouldn’t normally but Prince Charles has asked me to and I feel I could be letting him down if I didn’t

C of Cornwall

I wonder how much The Duke of Cornwall knows.

“If you say no to your boss, or your spouse, or your mother, when it needs to be said, then you transform yourself into someone who can say no when it needs to be said. If you say yes when no needs to be said, however, you transform yourself into someone who can only say yes, even when it is clearly time to say no. If you ever wonder how perfectly ordinary, decent people could find themselves doing the terrible things the gulag camp guards did, you now have your answer. By the time no seriously needed to be said, there was no one left capable of saying it.” – Jordan Peterson

That is a great quote, and so true.

I remember watching programs a few years back about Hitler trying to understand how he could brainwash or influence an entire country. Now we know!

I’ve been saying this for months. My other half used to pah pah me and say it’s not remotely the same…..funny he doesn’t say that anymore.

The only good thing that might come out of this is the shredding of the presumption held by many there, that Britons or Americans are a superior kind of people who would never have fallen or ever fall to such manipulation.
This could have been quite good for ze Germans reputation, especially in the UK, but then they have gone the most full and zealous Stasi again.

Out of 10 what mark would the average person give the Government Behavioural Insights team (BIT)?

One million percent – that’s what the average person living in the UK would give. Thank fuck they don’t generally infest this site.

You need to up that by a Ferguson I would think.

They’d score highly in terms of the number of fucked-up minds.

The important point about what is contained in the ‘Matt Hancock Acted Unlawfully’ piece is the question :
“ Would you trust this bunch of spivs to give you the truth about Covid or vaccines?”

There’s certainly an element of spivvery about them, but do you think Macron, Merkel, Conte etc etc are all spivs too?

Interesting question. I was certainly thinking about Mr Toad and pals, for whom the term is entirely appropriate.

It doesn’t fit Macron and Merkel quite as well. What terms do makes a good suggestion game.

I guess my point was that while the PM may well be a spiv, spivvery doesn’t seem to be fundamental to having given in to the coronapanic

A much better article today from Jonathan. The full article about Ferguson is well worth reading and forwarding to MPs etc. That psychopath is close to the root cause of this madness. We need some proper invasive investigation into this menace to reveal the full corruption.

We need to do something invasive to him, not necessarily an investigation .

From the looks of his eco-loony paramour he might enjoy that too much.

Plus his backers, like Blair and Gates

Time to do a mass compalint to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner about Hancock treating parliament with contempt?

Up to now she’s refused to invetsigate anyone for anything but maybe the verdict in the court case can wake her up.

Here are her details:

Kathryn Stone OBE
Commons Parliamentary Standards Commissioner

standardscommissioner@parliament.uk

Jonathan Barr can’t help conceding to the Spivs, can he? :

“ Yes there was an emergency…

Only for a short time was there a genuine possiblility. By May, it was pretty obvious that there wasn’t.

Not long after peak deaths on 8 April probably.

Don’t remember voting for a child abusing nonce to run the country

TOWIE Star fights back:

Dan Osborne ‘is under investigation by police’ after flouting lockdown rules by travelling EIGHT HOURS to visit new puppy with wife Jacqueline Jossa… as he tells critics to ‘go f*** yourselves’’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9281151/Dan-Osborne-police-investigation-flouting-lockdown-visit-puppy-Jacqueline-Jossa.html

I like his style!

Moderated comments, you’ll be surprised (not) that it’s only the uber critical one that are “allowed”

(but I only got down 1st page)

one of the newspapers suggests that there may be a cabinet reshuffle with Wankcock moving from Health to Education
Hasn’t children’s education suffered enough over the last year without inflicting him on them.

That’s funny, a scientist then a teacher………

Perfect for the role of Child Catcher, his career will go chitty, chitty bang bang with luck (owing to the lack of chits for the contracts to chums).

It may be desperation but I really hope this is true. Once anyone starts pointing the finger there will suddenly be knives thrown everywhere and only bloody shreds will remain of Handjob, Whitless etc

He should become the new Minister for Hospitality. The first visit with representatives, they might present him with a specially brewed pint.
Oh, he died? So sad!

Twatt Wanksock should be made minister for public urinals.

This is the pandemic flu plan prepared by the Gov in 2011

This was thrown in the bin due to the Chinese invention of lockdown. Shocking reading. They have done everything not recommended in these guidelines.

“The UK’s pandemic plan from 2011 is, a decade on, a breathtaking read. It assumed 315,000 deaths (x3 Covid), but advised against masks, closing schools, businesses, and mass quarantine. (Read clauses 4.15, 4.18, 4.21) What happened? ”

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/213717/dh_131040.pdf

 https://twitter.com/Adam_Creighton/status/1362278492591648768

Are we any closer to knowing the exact chain of decisions (who made them and when) to throw this into the bin? Any truth in the story that Macron threatened to close the border if we didn’t lock down?

It’ll be a fascinating area for historians to try to mine.

Not only the UK plan, but that of the WHO as well.

We’ve been asking that question for almost a year now.

Yes, read from section 4.10 onwards and try to spot any similarities to the madness we are enacting now.

Could the Raddison Blu Heathrow be our Bastille

It used to be the best airport hotel in the world

How about referring to it as the plague hospital, that’ll give Raddison’s PR something to think about.

Or the Bethlehem Hospital. Viewing of gibbering inmates by appointment, poking sticks extra.

Don’t wear a mask
Don’t social distance
Don’t take the vaccine
Don’t listen to MSM

Boris is a tyrant

Don’t get tested.

The most crucial one of all.

“What Children are Really Being Taught at Home”
… Is a brilliant ‘must read’. Not only for its analysis of the immediate effects of the Big Tech money-making scheme, but because it goes more deeply into the dire consequences of pseudo-reality – that can be extended more widely.

You make a good and interesting point about pseudo reality

There has always been some part of life that is lived vicariously, going back thousands of years when people listened to or read stories of great deeds

As technology has moved on, pseudoreality has become more sophisticated and more widely used/abused

Balance in all things

It’s good to watch great deeds but then you should be inspired to go out and do them yourself, or do something

I don’t watch much TV but the channels and shows I watch don’t feature much about covid – the ads are muzzle-free in general. I am partly glad of this, but partly conscious that this may be double-edged. The people who make the ads and the shows probably know that we don’t want to be reminded of how shit life is, but my worry is that people will watch this stuff and enjoy it and see say a shop with bare faced customers or a crowded bar and somehow imagine that these are experiences that are available and that they themselves have just experienced them . Maybe better if we had terrible locked down filth on TV so there was no escape available.

Just a tangential thought : but could all of what we are experiencing be classified as ‘pseudo-reality’ – the concept of a deadly all-prevalent pathogen that is ready to pounce at any minute, but which will be warded off by compliance to certain ritual acts?

Indeed- as GrannySlayer doesn’t seem to be around to plug Jean Baudrillard’s insights into narrative and reality, I hereby do so. (Please order from Waterstone’s, where my modest commission has been agreed.)

When Christmas was cancelled at the last minute we were told that we could celebrate Christmas at Easter.

The rumoured ‘relaxation of restrictions’ or rather, further extension of the unjustified, damaging draconian measures, would in effect cancel Easter too.

From what I can see, the current (inflated) numbers are far more encouraging than the doom laden predictions that we were given at Christmas.

So what for crying out loud can possibly be provided as the justification for extending our period of incarceration?

Absolutely anything you (people) are willing to eat.
Meaning there is no more than an endless mutating carrot and stick perception management system serving an agenda that does not recognise or extend any right or worth beyond that of stock or assets.

There has been much discussion on here about the possible degree of persuasion being used to “encourage” people to be Covid vaccinated, those who have made a rational decision (for whatever reason) to decline the “offer”.

The following letter is being sent to some patients of Shore Medical practices if they have declined Covid vaccination “offers”.

I have myself put some text in bold (just to be clear – NOT done by Shore Medical) as I believe that it may warrant attention/comment here because of the statements made.

There may also be other parts which the better informed here may want to examine and comment on.

Note – I have used “etc” towards the end as it is only details about where it is being given, which is not relevant here.

“Dear X

I understand you have made the decision to decline the Covid 19 vaccination at this time.

Please be aware that should you change your mind we will do our best to offer you vaccination assuming that we have adequate supply of vaccine . The vaccines approved for use in the UK all meet strict standards of safety, quality and effectiveness set out by the independent Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). Clinical trials were all run in accordance with best practice, with the phases being run concurrently.

So far, millions of people have been given a COVID-19 vaccine and reports of serious side effects, such as allergic reactions, have been very rare. No long-term complications have been reported.

To find out more about the vaccination programme and vaccines approved in the UK, see https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine/

The team at Shore Medical would very strongly advise all patients to accept our invitation for vaccination when offered. We have seen at first hand the impact of Covid 19 on some of our most vulnerable patients, but also on many young and previously healthy people.

The vaccine stimulates the body to produce antibodies to the virus so that it is recognised and destroyed rapidly. The vaccines currently used have different mechanisms for stimulating antibodies, but the immunity they create is the same. They cannot cause Covid infection and they do not affect us in other ways. Please do not become prey to the myths and rumour that are circulated by those who are ill-informed.

We have now vaccinated well over 90% of patients in our priority groups. Please do take time to reconsider receiving the vaccine both for yourself and your community.

Shore Medical is delivering its vaccination programme from etc, etc…………..

Kind regards
The Shore Medical Team”

You should send them the video of Simone Gold “the truth about cv” on bitchute, and near the end of the talk she and her colleagues “strongly advise” not to have the shot.

Hopefully they, and others like them, will see these posts and have cause to realise that not all patients are as naive as they think and do look at other opinion and make informed choices for themselves.

So they don’t consider death a ‘long term complication’ ?!

Death is a short term complication for the person who is dead. For everyone around them it is much longer term.

I suppose it makes their Patient list a bit smaller. Lol.

Can they please define “long term”. Do they mean 4 weeks?

That is both untrue and coercion. I am now getting very worried. I have declined the vaccine but have been getting odd calls from my Practice. I have been told I missed a ultrasound exam and asked why. I missed it in 2019! And 2020! No calls then. It is my body and my decision. I was then informed I was due a blood test and I pointed out in was due last year and they cancelled it. It got very nasty and the ‘facilitator’ (formerly known as a receptionist) hung up. I have friends who are being told that they must sign to say they are taking full responsibility for missed smear tests and told the NHS won’t treat them should they get symptoms. The tone the facilitator used was extremely nasty and was more akin to a bank official than a healthcare professional. Why are they suddenly going back through records and covering their arses? I have never had so many calls from the practice. Invitation after invitation to have the vaccine even though it is supposed to be on my notes that I don’t have vaccines. Questions about historic ‘tests’. I am deeply suspicious.

“ I have friends who are being told that they must sign to say they are taking full responsibility for missed smear tests and told the NHS won’t treat them should they get symptoms.”

Yes, I wonder if the practice who sent this would be prepared to sign a document accepting legal liability for any ill effect, damage or death from any of the vaccines? They have stated:

“.. cannot cause Covid infection and they do not affect us in other ways “

As the Pharma have been absolved from liability here by the Government.

Just because they call themselves a facilitator, it doesn’t mean you have to. They are a receptionist.

I’ve never had so much interest from my health authority. In the past month I have been offered a flu jab, a smear test, and a breast screening. That’s great (apart from the flu jab – I just thought that offering that to a healthy 50 year old at the tail end of flu season was a bit pointless) but I’ve spent 10 years battling for help for an elderly parent and no one in the NHS gave a shit. And I, parent and my partner have all had to end up paying privately for care that really should have been available but wasn’t. So I feel it’s all a bit ‘too little too late’ pretending to give a shit now when I’ve been driven to absolute despair over the past decade by their total negligence.

I’m not sure if you can opt out of having the flu jab but you can certainly opt out of receiving the intrusive smear test, breast screening and bowel cancer screening invitations. Thankfully I’ve never given my GPs surgery my mobile number or email address. Any letters will be returned unopened and marked no longer at this address.

I’ve opted out of seasonal flu jab for the last four years. My old mum who lasted until 101 always had the jab and promptly caught a mild dose so I scratched my noodle and thought maybe it’s not for me

Sounds like Shore Medical Practice need to be reminded about the ethics of consent, medical staff putting pressure on people is unethical

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/consent-to-treatment/

“The decision to either consent or not to consent to treatment must be made by the person, and must not be influenced by pressure from medical staff, friends or family”

“If an adult has the capacity to make a voluntary and informed decision to consent to or refuse a particular treatment, their decision must be respected”

Yes, I suspect we may hear a lot more about –

“… not be influenced by pressure from medical staff”

In the future, once legal teams could take on cases for those who might have suffered harm from something that they may have been put under undue pressure to take.

To date I’ve had one phone call, two letters and a text inviting me for my salvation. The last letter told me to expect a phone call from nhs if I don’t take up the ‘offer,’ their number is blocked

Good choice albert!

What’s the phone number from the NHS please.

0300 561 0240

Thank you – have added this to my phone and blocked.

Interestingly they don’t actually give a general phone number on the letter, for “Shore Medical” who are sending the letter, other than one to “book an appointment” (I didn’t copy that bit in my post) but the letter “Return Address” on the envelope is for this address:

https://shoremedical.co.uk/lilliput-surgery/

The “Registered Address” for Shore Medical found here:

https://shoremedical.co.uk/poole-road-medical-centre/

The number albert hall has given is the NHS vaccine line, which I think is what you wanted?

“ No long-term complications have been reported.”

They started vaccinating in December. It’s a bit soon to say that…

Exactly.

And the majority of those vaccinated haven’t had their second dose yet which is a not insignificant stage in determining possible adverse reactions to the vaccine.

Everything was fair enough up to the and your community . When it is my turn I shall see if I can have a consultation with a clinician and discuss choice of vaccines (AZ, Pfizer, Moderna etc) and if I can have it at the scheduled detailed by the manufacturer.

The “ill-informed” with years of professional experience in medicine or related science.
Most people writing on FB and other platforms base their opinions on writings and videos of people who are experts in their fields.

That’s scary. It’s about as far away from informed consent as you can get. Without going into detail there are a number of things I dislike in that letter.

1. No information (even if they think that is justified) that the experimental vaccine was approved under the emergency rules
2. Reports of side affects have been common, I think it is generally recognised even by those supporting vaccination that side affects are significant (e.g. perhaps 10x worse than the flu jab). And some side affects have been serious. They should link to information on side affects such as MHRA website rather than make such bland statements.
3. There have been long term complications including death. How many are attributable to the vaccine they can debate, but to state there have been none is just wrong.
4. Stating vaccine mediated immunity is the same as natural immunity is nonsense. But if they believe that they should state it is an opinion not as a fact.
5. They should point out that any long term affects can’t be known, but to crassly just say the trials have been done concurrently implying there are no long term affects is negligent in my view.
6. Making vague emotional arguments about the affect of covid on some of their patients is not conducive to informed decision making. It’s like saying we have seen the affect of road traffic accidents on some of our patients, please do not drive.
7. Strongly advising ALL patients shows a complete lack of individual consideration. The chances of a young person dying with or from covid is not just less but enormously less than an older person and in the case of a young healthy person it is trivially small. Even if you think the benefit exceeds the harm in some patients, the benefit/harm trade off is completely different between individuals.
8. Their complete ignorance of basic immunology and how vaccines work, and their crass belief this is all about antibodies and failure to realise the importance of T cells, is deeply worrying.
9. Suggesting you should be vaccinated for your community rather than to protect your own health is shocking, and I suspect breaches some of the rules they are supposed to follow. They give no reason why it benefits the community. For example when others in the community can be vaccinated to ‘protect’ themselves.
10. They can remind people to be careful in looking at information to ensure it is reliable. But it is not acceptable to brand views that go against yours as myth and rumour. Tell the children affected by the pandemrix vaccine, with their lives ruined through narcolepsy that any new vaccine is safe and won’t affect you in other ways.
11. There should be a balanced statement somewhere in there that any vaccine can have harms as well as benefits, but that they believe the benefits exceed the harms (if that is what they believe). To fail to state that shows the absence of balanced decision making and the lack of informed consent.

Thanks for your detailed reply.

Yes, the letter is lacking in very many ways, and it could be seen as misinformation because there is zero admission that not all the “facts” stated in it, are verifiable at the present time.

It certainly can’t be seen as balanced, as you say, and those who have been harmed in the past by other vaccines, would be outraged by it, no doubt.

It seems like they have missed a marketing trick here. My local hospital a few weeks back was using the “even if you don’t care about yourself, get the vaccine as it will protect your loved ones” line to try and guilt people into having it. Clearly a load of bull as the vaccine doesnt stop you getting it and doesnt stop you transmitting it, but what does a few actual facts matter?

Remember the Surgery get sales commision on each vaccine given, so its in their interests to market it as strongly as possible, like they do with the flu vaccine to make maximum profits from it.

The “even if you don’t care about yourself…” is both sick and, as you say complete BS.

As you say, I expect they are worried about not getting enough commission – when you start looking at Companies House at some of the interests of partners in Shore Medical it becomes very convoluted and you realise that the simple “family doctor” that some older folk think of, is a long disappeared animal.

LATER ADDITION by dhid to my original post.

It occurs to me that the letter I quoted is not “signed” or claimed by any named individual, so I wonder about any legal issue if the validity, or otherwise, of the statements made within the letter could be challenged, e.g. if a recipient made their decision to receive vaccination on the basis of the statements in the contents, and subsequently suffered harm as a result.

Given the nature of this somewhat involved organisation sending it (and possibility of that changing), would it not be difficult to know who to direct any such activity against, most especially as there is no claimed author?

From zeroCovid-19 countries. The authorities are alarmed. Officially they have very ,very few cases. Could it be the recalcitrant population don’t want to test despite symptoms? They are now sketching this wastewater testing in three Australian states to send out alert messages to people according to which parts affectd.

The difficult world of zeroCovid.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/wastewater-testing-covid19-detected-in-three-states/news-story/659ef2f8a717585fa21fae485f9b2754

“Wastewater testing: COVID-19 detected in three states Traces of COVID-19 have been detected in the wastewater of three states, putting authorities on alert”

They have as much Covid there as we do.
They just made sure the tests run at a very low CT number to hide this, fool their people and us.
Every outlier country seems to have its place and/on the (WEF/Gates?) given agenda, to confuse or seed hope in order to lead others into even more confusing and detrimental policies etc..

The useless tests main and most important function and feature is the deliberately denigrating and dehumanizing swabbing process: you are tested to condition you, to be shown and accept who’s the boss.
There is an article in the FAZ today where the association of German lab doctors stresses just this: the money must be kept flowing to them, swabbing by pharmacists is a no-go as they would be too nice to their customers, LFTs/self swabbing is a no-go anyway.
“The nasal swab must produce so much harm that you break into tears, the one in the throat must make you want to puke.”
Original words of the Dr. who chairs that organization- Mengele would be proud of him, but then these days, most doctors and all chairs of their organizations seem to have studied at the Leonardo Conti school of medicine.

This also explains why the less invasive US test has recently run into problems with the FDA when the manufacturers tried to widen its use to asymptomatic people.
And then, there are more and more stories about the tests really being devices to make people very sick over time and the first such illnesses and deaths arising: try to avoid ANY test like the plague, if you don’t want to run this risk, which must be deemed ever more credible.

In a nutshell: as everything, this is in truth solely about obedience, conditioning, punishing, denigrating, ruining and killing as many people as
possible without being blameable for it.

Read a good descriptive phrase of what we are living through. We are living under “Medical Tyranny”.

Covid is the same as climate change….bollocks

No – that statement is ‘bollocks’.

Whatever your views on climate change – a genuinely open question – it’s not ‘the same’ sort of debate at all.

It’s sloppy stuff like that which feeds 77th Brigade.

The very same tactics have been used to squash real debate in both subjects.

and both are characterised by the same ‘dealth cult’ behaviour. they even have their saints and martyrs: St Greta of Thunberg is the equivalent of the virgin who was visited by Our Lady – she who can see CO2 – I mean FFS, what century is this anyway

“ No – that statement is ‘bollocks’. “

An opinion, just like the one to which it was addressed.

But clearly there are very strong arguments indeed that climate alarmism is structurally very similar to coronapanic.

The same basis in modelling nonsense.

The same response to dissent – it’s “irresponsible” and “dangerous”, and those who engage in it are “deniers”

The same establishment commitment to it and to its enforcement (the BBC long ago openly admitted that they no longer felt any need to give dissenters any airtime, and that when they did, their presenters would be expected to give it a very hard time, whilst on the other hand they routinely and regularly push the establishment climate alarmist line.)

I’m right. If you can’t see that you are clearly not paying attention to what’s going on.

Sadly the minute they whip out the models based on vague data with much higher uncertainty than the hypothesis requires, it becomes the same dog and pony show.

As I’ve said here multiple times, belief in man-made climate change is the gateway drug to believing Covid nonsense.

OPEN LETTER re VACCINATION MANDATES BY EMPLOYERS FOR EMPLOYEES OR POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/6017f56ad166465fb9025da6_UKMFA_L4L_Workers_Union-Employers_Vaccine_Open_Letter.pdf

Lovely day where I am, lots of people out and about around the common, market day in town, lots of people meeting up and catching up, the fountain that people used to sit round has been barricaded so people are standing round it instead, leaning on the barriers

Outdoor masking has peaked IMO and where I am shifted from the worried old (maybe because they have been jabbed) to the worried middle aged – saw a fair few portly couples with muzzles

Pleased to say that none of the market stall workers has ever worn a mask, the one I’m most fond of is the very large, unhealthy looking chap who runs the burger van. If ever someone was at risk, it’s him, but he has carried on, bare faced.

I was pleased (two days ago – when the weather was briefly spring-like) to see nobody wearing masks outdoors, and the park near to our grandchildren full of families doing what you do without any obvious inhibition.

Yes, same here when we had some sun this week

Obviously people who choose to linger outdoors are a self-selected group who would tend to be less worried, but even round the market where people are there to shop, there were not many nervous faces

There’s a huge appetite to live again, and large numbers of people who wouldn’t think a great deal about covid if it wasn’t beamed at them constantly – that energy needs to be a bit more directed and harnessed to get behind a public movement to declare “it” over. That hasn’t happened yet, but it might.

Can somebody inform me if it’s correct that medical practices receive a “bonus” if Covid is recorded on death certificates?

No- that’s definitely not correct.

I was elated to see this article by Bel Mooney in this morning’s Daily Mail. Based on recent personal experience, she is now asking the questions regarding covid being certified as the cause of death that many of us have been asking for nearly twelve months. Shame that it takes personal experience to motivate journalists to even think about these issues. Excellent BTL comments as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9279767/BEL-MOONEY-dad-died-chronic-illness-hes-officially-Covid-victim.html

Being that she is a respected journalist with no ‘conspiracy agenda’, maybe her observations will prompt more people to wake up to what is going on.

A case of “ they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one”.
She’s started on the path hopefully taking more with her.

Rules have been relaxed “for the emergency period” (see:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877302/guidance-for-doctors-completing-medical-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf )
which coupled with the availability heuristic has potentially led to significant levels of misattribution.

UK Government Releases Shocking Report On COVID Vaccine Side Effects

Thanks to the Pfizer vaccine, which uses MRNA technology to instruct human cells to carry out “a certain task” 5 people are now blind and a further 31 have had their vision impaired. In total there have been 634 eye disorders reported so far. Imagine being confined to the same four walls for over a year and not being able to see family or friends. Then getting excited because you naively think an experimental “vaccine” is going to give you your life back and allow you to see them once more. But then leaving without the ability to ever see anything ever again.

etc

https://principia-scientific.com/uk-government-releases-shocking-report-on-covid-vaccine-side-effects/

Is it all a lie? – Stay at Home > Protect the NHS > 100K Deaths – An analysis of ONS and NHS data
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/02/06/protect-nhs-100k-deaths/

Serves them right is an expression that springs to mind

it’s tempting to think like that, when we have to endure such vitriol and nastiness for standing up for human rights against tyranny and fascism, but surely most of these people are just victims, innocent old people who have been lied to and duped?

That info is now well out of date. The figures now are even higher.

Firstly – ME-KNOW-VACCINE-BAD but;

Whatever happens in the UK re proof of vaccine requirements (I wouldn’t shop, drink, eat, etc anywhere that required such proof) there is still a strong possibility some countries will want to see some sort of vaccine passport before allowing entry.

Although I would certainly not have any covid vaccine for medical reasons it may become necessary to get vaccinated to travel to some countries. (please don’t state the obvious but unhelpful, ”just don’t visit those countries”)

So, just to clarify, i would not take any covid vaccine for medical reasons because I have an immune system that takes care of that shit for me.

For travel purposes only – does anyone know anything about this nasal spray vaccine and does it reduce the risks of long term compromise of the immune system…

”The first patient has been dosed in the Phase 1 clinical trial of COVI-VAC, a single-dose, intranasal, live attenuated vaccine against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.”

https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/139089/first-patient-dosed-with-covi-vac-an-intranasal-covid-19-vaccine-candidate/

please please please to not ”tourettes” type answer if you just don’t know or are just repeating what we all know about the vaccines, if confused then re read from the top.

Many thanks in advance.

BHF has a good summary of the vaccines in trial, but I don’t know whether that one is on there and it seems to be way behind the others.
I have the same issues you have with regard to travelling that might force me to consider getting jabbed at some point and understand everyone who’ll do it just for that, although I think there us a huge difference, depending on your vaccine concern level, what you want to travel for and where to: family/holiday home abroad: you’ll have to do it eventually, can only wait another year or so. Cruise, buddy trips to somewhere fancy: wait for as long as you can until more data or bodies have piled up.
The first one I would consider from that BHF list is the Novavax one (traditional, recombinant, safest), but I need to do more RX on the adjuvant, nanoparticles in it etc..

great thanks, I am certainly going to ‘wait and see’ as there is no current legal travel abroad for pleasure – i have family and friends in europe and US – I usually bugger off every 5-ish weeks, a little but often. There’s a bunch of us that ski 2/3 times a year.

Anticipating these trips is a major part of their benefit and one thing that really fucks me off is having nothing in the pipeline.

If you learn anything more please do keep us updated

BHF?

British Heart Foundation maybe?

I think that’s a typo, and that s/he meant “BNF”- British National Formulary.”

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/coronavirus-vaccine-trials

Thanks

The Foreign Office have now issued revised advice, regarding how to greet strangers you meet on your travels. This is applicable for all travellers to Asia, where Covid-19 testing is now being carried out with anal swaps.

Best edition for a long long time. Begins with Hancock getting ready for prison, I think, and then the beautifully made ?Turkish? film – what an impressive piece of work. We must all communicate gently with our loved ones – I keep quiet all week and then send a 2-pager on Sunday and ask for their respect to me by reading it for 10 minutes each week. March 6th looks like being the key date for us to make a point – supermarket at 9 with no mask; local park at 12 with some banners etc. What do people think? Is the 6th the best date?

Best edition for a long time? Did you miss the bit where Mr Barr asserted that there was an emergency in March 2020, therein justifying the lockdown measures?

Being a sheep and not asking questions is what the government and media prefer. But this fake pandemic has revealed something interesting to me.

A frightening number of people around me also prefer that we don’t ask questions. Instead, we are labelled “deniers” and “conspiracy theorists”

Over the last 10 months I have been reported to numerous authorities for challenging mainstream narratives surrounding lockdowns , masks , social distancing, the disease , the vaccine , PCR tests , and so on.

YouTube banned a bunch of my video podcasts and openly stated that they will remove any video that isn’t aligned with the views of the WHO.

I regularly receive emails from mindless drones who accuse me of spreading misinformation, but when prompted for supporting evidence, they provide nothing other than lots of empty words and logical fallacies.

Even the media doesn’t want people asking questions.

jermwarfare.com

couldn’t agree more. had a chat with one of my more questioning colleagues yesterday and said there that I feel increasingly that we can’t discuss topics relating to a counter narrative or simply just raise any concerns…Nothings is actually said by the wider team, its just an avoidance at all costs of discussing anything that doesn’t fit the narrative, with the occasional dig at non compliance (just so we all know what should be done).

It’s little more than superstition. You mustn’t do or say anything that might cause more people to die as if there is a direct link between death and people’s thoughts.

is there a protest in London Today?

If there isn’t there should be. There should be one in every town and city, every day.

Not that I’m aware of but it’s a bloody nice day for one. Just been for a run, my part of town is packed! Good to see. Although I did have a lady shrink away and tut as I passed her, had to give her a piece of my mind I’m afraid, fed up of feeling sorry for these people.

Sun is shining – off to the park to enjoy nature and have lots of fun

Geez, where do all you guys live? It’s absolutely bucketing it down here with gale force winds……

Just trolling us affected by rain and strong winds!

Enjoy your trip to the park and have fun yourself.

Here’s my simplistic view on the effect of lockdowns.

How are lockdowns (NPIs) supposed to work – They reduce the transmission rate by cutting off routes of transmission

How does immunity work – It reduces the transmission rate by cutting off routes of transmission

I must point out that saying lockdowns work or don’t work is about as meaningful as saying immunity works or doesn’t in this respect. They both have an effect and how we measure that effect is what is important.

Attached is a chart I knocked up to help me visualise how a Herd Immunity Threshold (HiT) might be achieved depending on the mix of immunity and NPI.

In the absence of immunity we are solely reliant on NPI to limit the spread of a virus. The more immunity there is the less NPI is required to achieve an HiT, i.e. the point where the infection curve turns downward.

Immunity, once gained continues to work. NPIs are single use. The use of NPI slows down the natural build up of immunity which means in order to maintain the same level of effect you have to keep implementing NPIs.

There are so many people who claim that NPIs save lives but if this is to be accepted as fact then it must be true that immunity also saves lives. They would work in the same way.

We can see from real world data that regardless of the level of NPI the end result is the same, in fact it’s turning out worse in many if not most places. This backs up the idea that NPI acts in the same way as immunity. Unless people are totally isolated from each other immunity will naturally build up in a population as people become infected. So in the long term it is preferrable to have immunity.

When we factor in all the additional costs of NPIs to achieve the same or worse result as natural immunity then there should be no sane person in the world who could think that lockdowns are a reasonable response to this pandemic.

The importance of perspective.

Age-standardised mortality rates England and Wales, 1942-2020 (2020 is provisional)

Year Age-standardised mortality rate (per 100,000 population)
1942   2,221.7
1943   2,243.7
1944   2,111.4
1945   2,080.5
1946   2,133.3
1947   2,243.8
1948   1,957.3
1949   2,168.0
1950   2,156.9
1951   2,373.2
1952   2,084.9
1953   2,093.4
1954   2,041.2
1955   2,101.0
1956   2,083.4
1957   1,971.6
1958   2,027.5
1959   2,004.2
1960   1,947.3
1961   1,915.3
1962   1,886.4
1963   1,969.9
1964   1,949.0
1965   1,965.8
1966   1,792.9
1967   1,817.6
1968   1,858.7
1969   1,759.7
1970   1,864.6
1971   1,816.4
1972   1,876.7
1973   1,850.8
1974   1,828.8
1975   1,802.1
1976   1,843.0
1977   1,741.9
1978   1,746.2
1979   1,752.7
1980   1,689.9
1981   1,666.5
1982   1,661.7
1983   1,638.4
1984   1,580.5
1985   1,626.8
1986   1,577.4
1987   1,514.9
1988   1,514.5
1989   1,513.8
1990   1,462.6
1991   1,464.3
1992   1,415.0
1993   1,453.4
1994   1,374.9
1995   1,392.0
1996   1,372.5
1997   1,350.8
1998   1,327.2
1999   1,320.2
2000   1,266.4
2001   1,236.2
2002   1,231.3
2003   1,232.1
2004   1,163.0
2005   1,143.8
2006   1,104.3
2007   1,091.8
2008   1,091.9
2009   1,033.8
2010   1,017.1
2011   978.6
2012   987.4
2013   985.9
2014   953.0
2015   993.2
2016   966.9
2017   965.3
2018   965.4
2019   925.0
2020   1,043.5

Source : Office for National Statistics: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/12735annualdeathsandmortalityrates1938to2020provisional [accessed 20 February 2021].

When i first saw this a few weeks ago I pointed out that the average of 2019 and 2020 is only slightly above the average of 2016 to 2018 – and includes all the deaths caused by withholding non-covid medical treatments in 2020

The piece on home-schooling was particularly depressing. No one, not even a competent teacher, should even attempt to reproduce schooling at home with their child/ren. Any attempt to do so could only have, at best no positive benefit, and at worst would have terrible outcomes.

A parent dealing with the consequences of the government closure of schools (yes, I know the government in court denied it had closed schools) should be concerned for the welfare of their child. The school curriculum is a matter for schools.

The child’s welfare should be the primary concern. This concern would suggest an approach to the child’s education that is very different to the concerns of a highly bureaucratised educational institution. It would be personalised and tailored to the needs, routines and practices of the family.

The priority should be exercise and play. This should take up a significant amount of the time in each that is devoted to education. The major emphasis should be on fun.

Turning to academic learning. Here the approach should be holistic (rather than the bureaucratised division of knowledge that is found in schools). Something should be selected that is of some intrinsic interest. It does not matter what it is. It could be a story, some historical event, or anything else: something the child will find interesting. To illustrate. Say a story is selected. There is the reading aloud of a portion of the story. This is followed by discussion: what happened, why did character X do Y, what feelings did the narration evoke, etc. There can then be some writing about this or the creation of a storyboard or a timeline, some artwork illustrating an aspect/s of the work read, etc. This work would be done independently and later reviewed and assessed. This pattern is repeated until the study of the story is completed. When a new topic is selected.

This approach enables learning that is not perceived as work, still less as an oppressive imposition, which is precisely what trying to reproduce schooling at home inevitably leads to. Trying to reproduce schooling at home is just another of the lockdown child abuses, and I cannot understand why any parent would wish to impose that on their child. The closure of schools offers an opportunity for learning that is not determined by bureaucracy: parents ought to take it for the welfare of their children and ought not to feel any need to try to force their children to slavishly follow a school curriculum. If authority figures want the school curriculum to be taught and studied, the solution is available to them: open the schools.

“ No one, not even a competent teacher, should even attempt to reproduce schooling at home with their child/ren. Any attempt to do so could only have, at best no positive benefit, and at worst would have terrible outcomes. “

In the context of lockdown I agree that this is disastrous.

I don’t agree, if this is held to be a wider principle. Homeschooling definitely has a place and can be very successful with parents who do it right. I’ve known some, and met some very well educated and adjusted people arising out of it. It’s more common and much better supported in some US states.

In our current (I mean pre-covid) context , in which we have collectivised mass schooling that includes systematic political indoctrination, the more who can escape from it the better. But it is not easy to do so for most, and the wider support structures of community and friendships are often not present and hard to reproduce.

Why do you vitiate reasonable points for argument with totally barmy statements such as :

“ we have collectivised mass schooling that includes systematic political indoctrination”

Clearly, there has been political indoctrination in some legislation – as, for example, in the ‘Christian Act of Worship’ imposed by a previous Tory government, and the predations contained within an overblown “National Curriculum” and testing regime.

But, given that all societies tend towards social control, the historical nature of the system is not of systematic conformity – although the tendency has grown over 20 years – ironically, in line with the ‘academy’ (privatisation) movement, with the Covid-like spread of school uniforms etc.

“ Why do you vitiate reasonable points for argument with totally barmy statements ”

Why are you seemingly incapable of grasping that just because you personally like and agree with indoctrination, it somehow doesn’t count as indoctrination? I’ve had four children pass through the state education system. I’ve seen directly the indoctrination they’ve been subjected to. We even used to call “PSHE” “state indoctrination”.

Because that’s what it was, though it wasn’t the only source of it, in school.

I am a private tutor and sometimes my students show me the indoctrination they are subjected to. There is no serious balanced consideration of topics like climate change and identity politics. Fortunately I teach maths and piano so I am unaffected.

It’s not even open to honest question, imo. For an obviously intelligent commenter like RickH to refuse to see it suggests almost willful blindness.

I seem to recall someone here posted recently at some length about the woke indoctrination in the modern teaching qualification courses, or perhaps it was an ATL quote or link..

In your disagreement you appear to be assuming educating a child at home is synonymous with the word (home)schooling. These are not synonymous. Schooling is something that happens in schools. The American term homeschooling is a misleading oxymoron.

“ Schooling is something that happens in schools. The American term homeschooling is a misleading oxymoron. “

Indeed. But a school is also wherever schooling occurs.

Not an oxymoron, merely a different approach to yours.

Education and schooling are two different things.

As a matter of personal curiosity, would you tell me why you use so many Americanisms?

“ Education and schooling are two different things .”

Hair-splitting semantics I think. Remember that many people who homeschool cooperate with other families to make a group multi-age environment not dissimilar to traditional village schools.

“ As a matter of personal curiosity, would you tell me why you use so many Americanisms? ”

Internet, and decades of political discussion with Americans and on American forums, probably. In truth most people of the internet generation use Americanisms all the time. I suspect I’m just a little ahead of my time in that, especially in the context of political and philosophical debate.

I’m a great believer in home ed, having practised it myself, but what is currently happening is NOT home ed – ie, locking a child up 24/7 with a computer screen, feeding them junk food, and banning them from outdoor exercise, activities, and friends. it is out and out child abuse and neglect, state sponsored, and any teacher who applauds it should never be allowed anywhere near a child again

Just sent my latest FOI to the DHSC:

“The following statement was made on the 30th January 2020 by the 4 Chief Medical Officers of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland and stated:

“the 4 UK Chief Medical Officers consider it prudent for our governments to escalate planning and preparation in case of a more widespread outbreak.
For that reason, we are advising an increase of the UK risk level from low to moderate. This does not mean we think the risk to individuals in the UK has changed at this stage, but that government should plan for all eventualities.””

This was subsequently used as the “serious and imminent threat” statement that was required to justify and to allow for The Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020 Statutory Instrument then all subsequent “coronavirus” legislation to be made and to come into force.

My FOI questions:

1 – were there any discussions between any of the Chief Medical Officers and either Ministers, Central and/or devolved Governments prior to this statement being released?

2 – If the answer to Q1 is YES please supply all the relevant correspondence and records.

3 – other than the above statement, did the CMOs and their respective departments and/or assistants supply any other information to Ministers to justify the statement and that shows how the emerging “virus” was a “serious and imminent threat” to the UK and that could be used to justify the subsequent legislation?

4 – If the answer to Q3 is YES please supply all the relevant correspondence and records.

5 – how did the 4 CMOs know 11 days in advance that this statement would be required as this is not a normal or standard statement by the CMOs and was unprecedented?

6 – Why was this “advice” basically hidden on a webpage on a different department’s gov.uk webpage and not on the DHSC webpages?

7 – Why was the relevant webpage not linked to the Serious and Imminent Threat Declaration?”

Will post whatever they finally answer.

Age-standardised mortality rates England and Wales, 1942-2020 (2020 is provisional)
Source : Office for National Statistics: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/12735annualdeathsandmortalityrates1938to2020provisional [accessed 20 February 2021].

(Actual dataset in post a few minutes ago).

2000 to 1000 in 70+ years is astonishing (note uptick after 1948!).

The last 12 months has proven to me that most politicians don’t even believe in democracy or freedom.

If they did they’d have spoken up long before now. Instead everyone is left wondering if they still exist. What exactly have they been doing all this time?

they’re a bunch of useless self-serving wankers, a total waste of space [sorry to bring the tone down after Katabasis’ superb letter above]

My wife and myself just sent a long, heartfelt letter to Charles Walker. We didn’t pull any punches and also included our academic and clinical credentials.

I don’t know if sharing this will inspire more to write, or help some of you who are feeling the same way, but just in case I’m sharing it below (minus our real identities and credentials of course…). Now’s not the time to remain quiet.

Dear Charles,
Thank you for inviting the general public to write to you and share their experiences.

It is difficult to know where to begin. The hysteria. The overreaction. The frightening authoritarianism. The turning of family members and friends against one another.

Even if we returned to the normal lives so many of us ardently wish for tomorrow I don’t think I will ever recover from this mentally and emotionally. The catastrophically authoritarian reaction to this by the establishment (in which I include the political, media and academic classes – the latter of which I am sadly part) is bad enough.

The fact that so many of my countrymen, countrywomen, friends and family have also succumbed to the hysteria and become frightened, hectoring members of the new biosecurity state Stasi ready to turn in their nearest and dearest for the most minor perceived infraction is a realisation and experience that will remain forevermore at the forefront of my mind. Many friendships and familial bonds are now ruined for life.

We could pull back from the brink, the economy could recover (though I think this highly unlikely – the hammer is yet to fall), our rights and freedoms could be restored (also unlikely) and yet this could all happen again so easily. I have lost all faith, belief and comfort in the society and nation of which I was once so proud. We wondered for decades how Nazi Germany could have happened. Now we know. We are – collectively – no different, it seems.

My wife and myself are both close to the frontline of this insanity. She is a nurse of over two decades experience. For my part, my skillset is in Data Science, specialising in clinical research for the last five years. Both of us have watched this collective madness unfold with horror and have also shared the thoroughly unpleasant experience of having our professional opinions and assessments of the situation dismissed by friends and family who preferred to indulge in media and government driven panic and recrimination of non-believers.

I initially took the Covid-19 pandemic very seriously and reluctantly supported the first lockdown. However, in only a matter of weeks there was sufficient comparative data both nationally and internationally to observe our own government’s policies and belief-system swiftly departing from reality. A responsible government should seek to calm those it is tasked with serving and protecting in a major crisis. Ours – who I’m ashamed to admit both my wife and I voted for in good faith – did the complete opposite and continues to pile on the hysteria and authoritarian overreach today.

In the course of examining the academic literature and the data as it emerged I was horrified to find familiar foes of both the truth and the West from the past staking out their territory and apparently determining government policy. Upon my own examination of Ferguson’s modelling code, even after it was refactored by a software engineer I found it was still incredibly sub-par and the fact his appallingly shoddy work, especially with his track record, became the initial central plank of government response both here and in the U.S. without a complete and thorough peer review still appals me almost a year later.

Ferguson is far from the worst scoundrel in this sorry drama, however. I read Klaus Schwab’s “Covid-19: The Great Reset” as soon as it was published last summer. Reading in black and white Schwab and the WEF’s utterly dystopian blueprint they desire for Western society rocked me to my roots. Johnson has repeated entire sentences from Schwab’s book word for word. He, and it seems many members of the government are disciples of Schwab’s evil and sinister ideology and in retrospect many pre-Covid government policies (such as the insane and utterly suicidal “zero carbon” policies) now make more sense in the context of a government captured by the WEF, Gates and the rest of these despicable megalomaniacs.

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Even if their goals are frustrated, much of the damage, especially psychologically and emotionally, has been done and is permanent. To my wife, to me, to our friends, our family, to our country.  A frightened, hysterical and self-hating populace is a very easy cohort to control. It is difficult to escape the conclusion that this has been as much a social and psychological experiment carried out on us as anything else, with the government’s “nudge unit” and appallingly amoral husks in the media formally known as “journalists” who are now nothing more than stenographers and hysteria amplifiers.

Many of the mitigation measures are, and always will be in the context of an infectious virus just that – mitigation. They have been sold to the general populace as *prevention* measures. The distinction is important both empirically and in terms of moral behaviour (and moral injury). All we can ever do in the face of a virus is slow its spread until treatments and herd immunity adapt accordingly. This is mitigation.

Many of the most frightened and hectoring busybodies I have encountered since this crisis started appear to believe that these measures are preventative instead. They believe Covid infections are prevented if people are sufficiently zealous in following the rules. If Covid infections continue it is not the measures that are at fault or a virus behaving like viruses do, they believe, it must be that people were not sufficiently assiduous in implementing them. They may as well say people didn’t pray hard enough so God struck them down.

Take mask wearing for example. In public health terms it provides minimal benefit and only if proper protocol is followed (which in 99% of cases it is not). It will almost certainly become a public health crisis all on its own, not least in mental health terms and continued destruction of people’s immune systems. Such a visible symbol of virtue-signalling and compliance however is mana to frightened people who can now freely express their inner authoritarian and bully. Masks, like other measures are interpreted as preventatives not mitigations which is why we now witness the spectacular stupidity of double masking. *If* it is a preventative rather than a mitigation then *of course* wearing two masks make more sense to these people. They’re praying harder.

And now we have the true spectre of this kind of idiotic reasoning and fear rearing its unwelcome head on the horizon: mandatory global vaccination coerced through ‘vaccine passports’. And this is where the mental health of both myself and my wife is affected most. As part of our collective madness, we have departed from decades of good common sense (not to mention ethical) medical practice. Covid-19 is serious, no doubt. But it is not Smallpox. It is not Polio. It most certainly is not Ebola.

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We are about to eject completely the principle that people who do not need a vaccine should not take it. Especially one that has been rushed to market. How quick so many people are to forget the Government’s previous U-turn on the Swine Flu vaccine after numerous poor victims ended up with narcolepsy. Monitoring the reactions reported here so far in the U.K. and the U.S. to the numerous vaccines it is clear that there is cause for concern already regarding immediate short term reactions and it is perfectly rational for people to adopt a wait-and-see attitude, especially where long-term effects and interactions are concerned.

Moreover, the vast majority of us simply do not need to take the vaccine, period. We have enough data to see clearly now that it is a much more rational choice to allow our immune systems to dispense with the virus rather than subject ourselves to an unnecessary medical treatment. Each time the body is subjected to a vaccine, the immune system is over-stimulated, receiving a jolt that opens a window of vulnerability. Now I see the world’s premier medical expert, Bill Gates, is advocating three – three! – annual vaccinations. For everyone.

The proportion of side effects may seem acceptably small now but that will soon scale up in absolute terms very quickly indeed. From tens of millions of unnecessary injections, to hundreds of millions to what – billions? And three times a year every year? This is madness beyond comprehension.

Looking at the VAERS data for example, deaths are currently “only” in the hundreds so far. I invite you to look at the average age of death at present. 72. Median age of death “with” Covid is around 82 at present. Is that a good exchange in terms of years of life lost? If mass (and ever changing) vaccination for a virus that barely affects most of the population becomes mandatory I guarantee that average age for death due to the vaccination will drop precipitously and the absolute numbers, including for life-changing side-effects will climb precipitously.

Will people at that point still be willing to risk being a statistic? Will you? They’ll get three goes at it every year. Perhaps the five unfortunate women who have been reported in the UK government statistics so far to have experienced spontaneous abortions thanks to the Pfizer vaccine feel grateful that they “saved RNHS” by losing their babies? I note as well, in line with the utterly amoral approach to all of this, that their babies were not counted in the overall mortality. Appalling.

If mandatory / coerced vaccination is introduced for the general population we will collectively be abandoning the most fundamental right an individual can have – the right to bodily integrity. If we do not have that, we have nothing. The medical stasi state effectively owns our bodies at that point and we can, and will, be subject to many more depredations.

To what end? To “save” an abstract NHS (that is supposed to be saving *us*)? As far as I can tell the primary goal is an utterly abhorrent level of authoritarian state control of the individual in the name of obscure collective goods. I can come to no other conclusion. As philosopher Max Stirner put it a century and a half ago in ‘The Ego and its Own’, “they cut off the heads of men to serve Man”. As good an argument against the ills of overbearing collectivism as I’ve ever read. Incidentally an academic philosopher friend of mine who is still very much alive argued this slightly differently – every time “Public Health” is invoked, it means your body and your health become property of “Public Health”. That is where we are going with this.

Now if the coming economic catastrophe as a result of this ongoing(!) madness doesn’t destroy the lives and careers of my wife and myself that we have worked so hard to build then the mandatory vaccine “mandate” and normalisation of “vaccine passports” for ordinary activities such as shopping or socialising occurs then we both consider our lives effectively over. We have discussed this and for us, if this occurs, it is perfectly rational grounds for suicide for both of us. Neither of us want to live in such a horrifying authoritarian hellscape and I don’t think either of us could live with ourselves either if we conceded to its demands. If we have no rights over our own bodies we have no rights at all and nothing else matters a damn, especially in a world where our own friends and family are turned against us for refusing to join in the collective madness.

Yours in utter despair,

Dr. Katabasis.

Powerful, well argued stuff, thanks.

“ the five unfortunate women who have been reported in the UK government statistics so far to have experienced spontaneous abortions thanks to the Pfizer vaccine ”

I’d like to have a good reference link for this that can be passed on easily and will be taken seriously by the “respectability-inclined”.

Mark – page 36
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/962405/COVID-19_mRNA_Pfizer-_BioNTech_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf

Thanks. I’ll pass it on, but probably needs some explanation. Am I to understand from this that only 9 people have become pregnant after taking the pfizer vaccine? (The numbers are understandable, since it hasn’t been that long since it was introduced. Just trying to clarify what it means by including “pregnancy” as one of the “reactions”).

Mark I believe it means they reported they had become pregnant in the observation window following receiving the injection.

Bloody well said Katabasis. Should be reproduced above the line.

Seconded. Please reproduce in full and give a permanent place on the right hand side. Preferably in flashing lights with arrows pointing to it.

Superb letter; wish that I written it myself!

Your narrative :

“ I initially took the Covid-19 pandemic very seriously and reluctantly supported the first lockdown. However, in only a matter of weeks there was sufficient comparative data both nationally and internationally to observe our own government’s policies and belief-system swiftly departing from reality.”

… must reflect the experience of a lot of us who remain rooted in reality. It certainly reflects mine : an initial precautionary acceptance of the need for care, followed by a growing incredulity as information became blatantly more and more propagandised, and policy departed from anything inherent in signals from the actual data.

Absolutely the way my own thinking progressed.

yes, it was my trajectory too – I don’t remember now exactly when I began to turn, but I do remember at around Easter time some relatives were delivering some shopping, and they were sitting at the far end of our faily large garden (which of course even that was illegal ) – while the other members of my household were diligently spraying with diluted bleach, and I suddenly lost it, and went right up to the visiting relatives and began mock-screaming, ‘aah, covid, covid, we’re all gonna die’ and they were all horrified and almost called the men in white coats to take me away….now every one of them has come over to our side

Thank you very much Dr Katabasis.

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Written in 2007 but still available on the WHO website (my emphasis in bold)

Nuremberg code turns 60 https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/85/8/07-045443/en/

For the past 60 years, a series of ethical texts and instruments have relayed the Nuremberg court’s opinion, 3 and completed or interpreted the code in the multifaceted context of medical experimentation. The medical profession thus draws on a vast body of ethical reflection to ensure that scientific advances do not prevail over the health and safety of individuals without their fully informed consent in medical experiments . However, we ask whether modern ethics and its binding instruments can always secure full protection to experimental subjects and beyond them, to the recipients of health care. In a context of relentless competition for resources among scientific institutions, ethical vigilance is a permanent necessity. Falsification of scientific results and the premature release of drugs on the market show that modern ethics does not in itself provide full protection against scientific misconduct, especially when it occurs beyond the critical step of malevolent or unsafe experiments involving human beings .

Very well written. The challenge is how the evil in power can be stopped. Are we seriously going to wait years for another general election…action is needed now and it can only happen if the people take action

Absolutely superb piece of writing. Powerful. I agree totally with everything you’ve said especially the last paragraph. Please let us know if you get a response, of all the letters he must have received this one deserves a personal response.

fantastic letter, Dr Katabasis, respect

I’m going to copy and share this far and wide, if you don’t mind. everyone on the planet needs to read it.

Go ahead Jane.

Katabasis – in response to your reply to Jane I have copied the main part of the text. If you don’t mind where it refers to you and your wife, I’ll personalise it to me and sent it to my lockdown zealot multi-millionaire MP. (I am a qualified researcher who previously worked in the science departments of 2 UK universities, have a Chartered Institute of Environmental Health qualification, was an IOSH practitioner pre-early retirement) and my closest family members were in 2 different medical professions (now deceased). Like JaneHarry I would also like to send my personalised version to a Facebook friend who is a lockdown sceptic and who has been following the plans of the WEF, Schwab and Gates for several years and who warned of their huge and growing political and financial influence several times in 2020, but was ignored. I too originally dismissed them until I saw Boris Johnson in a TV interview wearing their logo as a lapel badge and this rang major alarm bells. Then I started doing some in depth research myself. Now I am 100% convinced this pandemic response is the key delivery mechanism for the WEF Great Reset. With Gates and Fauci’s involvement plus BJ, Hancock and Gove being speakers at past WEF conferences, the more digging I do I am now coming round to thinking that those who were calling it a PLandemic were not conspiracy theorists, but flagging up suspicions that all the evidence points towards being monstrous but true. I don’t intend to live in the Gates/Schwab version of the world either, but for the present I intend to fight to the end to stop them realising their vision in whatever way I can, even though they are incredibly powerful. After all, Hitler and other similar evil megalomaniacs have been defeated in the past – who knows, collectively we may just win.

yes being an avid reader of everything ww2 i thought the evilmadman gates is just like or at least alot like hitler that would be a good poster a hitler mustache on the evil gates .
its just that gates wants to kill us all not just the jews the gypsies the political prisoners[ that would be us besides some of us falling into other groups too ] the polish people etc .

i always wanted to be in the resistance .now’s our chance

Great letter!

great letter wish i could write so intelligently , but dont give up remember lessons from world war 2 is better to fight back and join the resistance . dont let them do this to us don t let them win .i hate the vaccines and the masks more than anything . no way will i ever get any vaccine. lets all rebel.

spread the word.

Well done, incredible and 100% I how I feel.

An outstanding diatribe – I don’t disagree with a word of it and will send it to my (junior Health Minister) MP as it is far more eloquent than I could ever be.

I have been producing my own paper on ‘Why I won’t take the vaccine’ to send to acquaintances and neighbours who will shun me when I officially ‘come out’. But this, allied to the ATL letter from the retired dentists to the Saga CEO, have said it all for me!

Thank you!

Outstanding

Absolutely perfectly written. Thank you .

Wow what an absolutely fantastic letter Katabasis. What about sending that to the BBC and the other media. Surely there has to be somebody in one of those damned organisations that has some morals and can speak up for what’s going on???

They’ll have too much interest in “outing” us, unfortunately. Its career death for both of us criticising RNHS or the official policy.

Excellent

“ We should also consider another position which I believe has been put forward forcefully by the cartoonist Bob Moran, so I shall call this the Moran Doctrine. This is, simply, that the Government should not have the power to impose lockdowns under any circumstances: even if each of the four Franklin Tests were met, a lockdown would not represent a legitimate measure. Just as the state should never torture anybody, under any circumstances, the Government should not have the ability to “lock down” its citizens. We should be given accurate information and clear advice, but we should never have our human rights and civil liberties curtailed by law to this dramatic extent. “

I’m pretty firmly in the Moran doctrine camp, for this reason.

It’s hugely unlikely that any situation would ever arise that satisfies the first of the Franklin criteria as described above. A disease would have to be almost unprecedented in human history to genuinely represent an ” an extremely grave, even “existential” societal threat”. The 1918 flu doesn’t even come close. Maybe some of the great plagues of history such as the Black Death, or the catastrophic introduction of Old World diseases to the New World in the C16th (the result of a naturally imposed and far more complete Australian/NZ-style quarantining process).

So we have basically nothing to lose from forbidding it. That doesn’t even mean it will never be done. If you believe the modern UK government has never tortured anyone then you’re a fool. What forbidding it does is place obstacles in the way of those who want to do these things for their own reasons, and forces them to take responsibility for doing so. It is such constitutional barriers, as I understand it, that have prevented the political pressure in Sweden from forcing it to abandon the path of sanity, so far.

And in any case, the presumption that is fundamental to a society that is both democratic and free is that people have to be persuaded to a course of action, outside of restricting behaviour that is clearly criminal (in the sense of breaching another person’s legitimate fundamental rights to life, liberty, property). There is always a tension in any democracy between free democracy and tyranny of the majority. Lockdown represents the latter, in spades, and furthermore is based on heavy and systematic fear propaganda manufacturing the popular consent to it.

We should take the view as axiomatic, that if the threat is genuinely serious enough, then enough people will be persuaded of that and act appropriately. Those who argue the contrary, usually the paternalist fallacy that “people are too stupid/irresponsible” to do that, are not believers in free democracy, but rather either closet fascists or believers in a tyranny of the majority.

And make no mistake here, though many are incapable of recognising this – the seatbelt laws were a clear manifestation of this paternalist fallacy. The axiomatic position should be that if you cannot persuade people to wear seatbelts then you must accept that they are entitled to not do so, and the responsibility for any consequences are theirs alone. Imposing a collectivised health system on them and then claiming they no longer have freedom to choose their behaviour because the costs are now collectivised is pure dishonesty, though very widespread.

Great post Mark. That’s my understanding also re the Swedish situation, although it seems the politicians are doing their best to undo this and ‘get in on the action’.

I think part of the problem is the welfare state, the ‘free’ health care. if you delegate responsibility for your own health care to the state, then you are also giving them the right to boss you around, to tell you what you can and can’t do with your own body, since they are the ones picking up the tab. you are laying the groundwork for a system of health fascism, so what is happening today in a sense is a natural consequence. everyone should be responsible for their own health care. that some may not have the means to pay for life saving treatments is just a tough fact of life. in trying to deny or avoid this, you just create an even worse situation.

100% JH. It’s also why the NHS operates for the benefit of those that work for it and not for the customers it is meant to benefit.

I agree with you but playing devil’s advocate if you have a potentially fatal infectious disease and you knowingly behave in a way that is likely to spread it to others, one could argue that is clearly criminal as you breach their right to life. The evil trick with covid is to have presented it as just this scenario, when it clearly isn’t.

Of course respiratory infections do kill people, and I suppose they might kill fewer people if ill people stayed at home instead of spreading them, though there may be unintended consequences to this as building up immunity requires exposure and it might end up doing more harm than good on a societal level.

What’s gone wrong is the social contract whereby people accepted a level of risk in exchange for being able to go about their lives “normally”

What is the point in the legal system? Government acts unlawfully -> fuck all happens.

Someone says “hello” to a friend in the street -> £200 fine.

The strong do what they can. The weak suffer what they must.

The answer is – don’t be (politically) weak. Which means, in our context, organise, support each other, and resist.

Upticked for the nod to Thucydides there, Mark!

Upticked for the spot : -)

Varoufakis you two on about? I’ll get my coat.

Goalkeeper wasn’t he?

Played left side midfield for Panathinaikos back in the 1980s, Bill. Arsenal took a look at him but it never came to anything.

Just started reading a small book called ‘How to Resist.’ Only a few pages in but its looking quite handy and I am already feeling more hopeful.

People have no idea how much our children will hate us for this. It will be a violent, murderous hatred, because they will be able to see online how things were before this atrocity was inflicted on them. And their feelings will be completely justified.

I have successfully safeguarded my children by indoctrinating them to hate the pig dictator, Wanksock and anything government related. They mock bedwetters and give the (admittedly a minority of) idiotic teachers gip. They aren’t anxious, are visibly more confident than their friends that are only now being allowed ‘play dates’.

I think it is unlikely they will EVER vote Tory but can make their own minds up when older

Only those too young to understand. The rest are complicit.

Hell I’m not confident that Google et al will leave anything behind for future youngsters to see!