2021-02-28

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438417 sophie123, replying to sophie123, 7, #1 of 1400 🔗

Ooooh am I first?!

438418 ▶▶ BJJ, replying to sophie123, 3, #2 of 1400 🔗

Yes, congratulations.

438419 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to sophie123, 3, #3 of 1400 🔗

Bloody hell! Congratulations I suppose grrr

LOL what’s happening posts are getting earlier & earlier.

438428 ▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #4 of 1400 🔗

Aaaah I am seven hours ahead of the uk so very easy for me.
Don’t thnk Toby, Will, Johnathan et al sleep very much.

438536 ▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to Anti_socialist, 14, #5 of 1400 🔗

I have been suffering insomnia. Badly. Sleep patterns all over the shop.
I did have an amazing dream though, that the masks all miraculously disappeared….but then I woke up.

Maybe it’s the sunshine, but I do feel like something has shifted.

438424 ▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to sophie123, 2, #6 of 1400 🔗

Well done – I am not even on the podium today – watch out for snide comments from DavidC though.
Love to start the day with a bit of light-hearted banter!!

438459 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Judy Watson, 7, #7 of 1400 🔗

David C
Don’t worry me.
I always thirst
To know who was first.

438509 ▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Annie, 7, #8 of 1400 🔗

The moaners and haters
Are just mass-debaters.

438639 ▶▶▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Jinks, 2, #9 of 1400 🔗

Alex Belfied on YouTube loves using that use of words.

438655 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to karenovirus, 7, #10 of 1400 🔗

No mass-debating jabs allowed on his show,
Poor Alex is willing to jab-and-go,
Apart from that he’s quite spot-on
But as for the jab, he can just do one.

438731 ▶▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to Annie, 2, #11 of 1400 🔗

Love your little ditty -nice one

438990 ▶▶▶ dhid, replying to Judy Watson, 1, #12 of 1400 🔗

But DavidC has a huge brain and IQ don’t you know?
I mean, he told us back last year….
Lol!

439267 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to sophie123, 2, #13 of 1400 🔗

Sophie won the trophy!

438420 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 16, #14 of 1400 🔗

Posted these late last night, thought they were worth bringing to the fore.

Dunno if this has been posted before The Day Masks Died (Trader Joe’s Santa Cruz)

You’ll like this CANADIAN MAN GOES BEAST MODE in airport

Farce mask: it’s safe for only 20 minutes The Sydney Morning Herald, First published 17 years ago

Here’s a song My Choice – Van Valentine I’m confident LS & TY WON’T be linking ATL.

438456 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Anti_socialist, 15, #15 of 1400 🔗

Sydney Morning Herald article warning against mask suppliers profiteering is accompanied by three advertisements by
. . . mask suppliers
😷 😷 😷

438460 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to karenovirus, 5, #16 of 1400 🔗

The advertising system obviously locks on to key words in articles.
Articles criticising maskomania use the word ‘mask’ a lot.

438503 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Anti_socialist, 9, #17 of 1400 🔗

OMG that Canadian dude!!! 🤩 🤩 🤩

438527 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Anti_socialist, 13, #18 of 1400 🔗

It’s so scary and sad to watch the Trader Joes video. I have loved that chain for years. LOVED it. Now I know (if I even ever get to the US again) I can never go there again. I will never forgive those masked madmen for treating human beings like that. They are brainwashed. That’s vile.

438533 ▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 2, #19 of 1400 🔗

Your boycott will only be effective if you tell them about it.

438541 ▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 8, #20 of 1400 🔗

They really were brainwashed, weren’t they? Very, very scary what you can do to people if you can control them through fear.

438421 Friedrich Stapß, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 140, #21 of 1400 🔗

Is there any more vomitorious start to a Sunday morning than reading a quote from the Metrofuckingpolitan Fascist Muppet Brigade that ends with a ritual exhortation to “protect the NHS”?

In the days when my knowledge of it derived entirely from spy novels, I used to think that at least totalitarianism was sexy (East German honeytraps, the Tonton Macoute in dark glasses, and nobody can deny the SS got the best uniforms), but it’s not. It’s that statement: “Officers have been speaking to people in the area throughout the day, adopting the ‘Four E’s’ process of engaging, explaining, encouraging and then enforcing to take action against any rule breakers. Right now the restrictions have not changed and we must all continue to follow the rules to save lives and protect the NHS.”

It’s the relentless, flabby weight of drab minds suffocating the spirit out of human beings.

438444 ▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 54, #22 of 1400 🔗

How can those unformed twats explain anything when they don’t understand anything at all about the rules except how to cosh someone on the head and put handcuffs on them?

438445 ▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Londo Mollari, 36, #23 of 1400 🔗

And how to select the most ordinary looking member of the public to mob wrestle to the pavement, using the process of detention as part of the punishment.

438538 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to karenovirus, 65, #24 of 1400 🔗

It’s bullying and harassment pure & simple. I’ve noticed that they don’t dare go to bad areas such as Britxon or Tottenham preferring Primrose Hill and Hyde Park where its easy to harass old men taking a break from a walk or two women meeting up for a coffee. Not so easy to do the same to tough young men in the bad places I mentioned below.

Can you imagine the furore had the police harassed and bullied someone in Tottenham especially if they were black?

438564 ▶▶▶▶▶ Thomas_E, replying to Bart Simpson, 43, #25 of 1400 🔗

Look, I was in Hyde Park last weekend, the place was heaving, all caffes open serving food and drinks.Every bench had people sitting and eating.People were sitting g on the grass eating etc.I saw 10 police cars,not one of the stopped,not one officer spoke to the people on the benches.They know its BS, we know it so that is pretty much it.

438580 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Thomas_E, 27, #26 of 1400 🔗

That’s an improvement from 3 weeks ago where they were pretty much shouting at people to get a move on.

Being relentlessly hammered on social media must have had a sobering effect. Not to mention too as you said they know deep down its BS.

438645 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Thomas_E, 12, #27 of 1400 🔗

Police Officers read the Daily Mail too, probably got yesterdays front page hanging around in the station canteen.

439212 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to karenovirus, 2, #28 of 1400 🔗

Quite likely.

439224 ▶▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Bart Simpson, 10, #29 of 1400 🔗

The police like soft targets and suchlike are not available in tougher parts of London. Also, I suspect they know it is BS and will not exert themselves too much, let alone put themselves at risk.

439565 ▶▶▶▶▶ richardw53, replying to Bart Simpson, #30 of 1400 🔗

Or Southall?

438534 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 104, #31 of 1400 🔗

I wish you could have witnessed scenes all around the country yesterday. Lockdown is over. The people have said so. They know the fines mean nothing. All arrests have been thrown out by the CPS. There IS NO CORONAVIRUS ACT or valid amendment to the public health act! If it is not being upheld by the CROWN PROSECUTION SERVICE then it doesn’t exist! It is just a load of words on a website that constitute the most evil attempt at mass manipulation this country has ever seen. This is widely known and understood now. It’s over. AND we want our taxes back from a government that has misused them. Seize ALL assets of anyone who has made money from PPE contracts, pharma shares etc. and rebate it back to the people!

438760 ▶▶▶ BertieFox, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 14, #32 of 1400 🔗

Good for you guys!! Wish we could muster up the same spirit in down-trodden, miserable Ireland.

438931 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to BertieFox, 11, #33 of 1400 🔗

The Irish have let themselves and the rest of us down badly. If only Bill Gates had been English, it might have been different story.

439767 ▶▶▶▶▶ BertieFox, replying to Rowan, 1, #34 of 1400 🔗

I don’t think so. A great many people in the Republic probably don’t even know who he is and care less. I say Republic because I always find that people up North tend to be better informed and more interested in what’s going on in the world. I’m sorry to be so down in the mouth but Southern Irish people at the moment have no interest in questioning anything. If you try to make them think a little bit, as I try to do, they either get angry or smile kindly as if they think you’re out of your mind. And forget any kind of appeal to nationalism. That was completely killed stone dead by the Northern Ireland “troubles”. It isn’t considered polite to mention any kind of nationalism and it has been like this for a long time now.

439427 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to BertieFox, 4, #35 of 1400 🔗

And in Gulag Wales.

439513 ▶▶▶▶▶ jcd, replying to Annie, 1, #36 of 1400 🔗

No gulag up here in the north.

438923 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 10, #37 of 1400 🔗

Then Bill Gates will have to cough up big time. He says he makes a 20:1 return on his pharmaceutical (vaccine) investments.

438780 ▶▶ Burlington, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 22, #38 of 1400 🔗

One has to bear in mind that one in four “police officers” is equally as stupid as the other three.

439084 ▶▶ HelenaHancart, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 6, #39 of 1400 🔗

I know! That bloody triggered me too – nearly put me off my bacon sarnie (no pun…) But at least here, I’m in the company of the sane. Did anyone see that brutal attack on a woman by police, at a protest in Bishops Park yesterday? Still not quite sure if it was a set up but it doesn’t do our brave boys and girls in blue, in their silly face panties, any favours!

439091 ▶▶ James Leary #KBF, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 8, #40 of 1400 🔗

Next time one of them ‘engages’ you ask (pronoun) “When are they going to put you lot in barracks, then?”

“What do you mean?”

“Well the Continental police enforcers are paramilitary. You are supposed to police by consent. You and your families obviously cannot continue to live amongst the people you are repressing otherwise you could never go to work thinking those at home are safe, could you? So have they told you when?”

It usually gets a response. My son-in-law is a copper, I tell them that too.

439162 ▶▶ james007, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 12, #41 of 1400 🔗

Are you not quite fit enough for the army? Do you have a degree in something a bit useless making you unqualified for most jobs? Join the police, we’ll teach you how to walk the streets and behave like a bossy dinner lady telling adults how to stay safe.
The police is a political organisation

439246 ▶▶▶ 599chrish, replying to james007, 1, #42 of 1400 🔗

And always was my friend – simple ‘Muscle for the bosses ‘

439309 ▶▶▶ houdini, replying to james007, 6, #43 of 1400 🔗

When I joined the CPS years ago at its launch ,the the chief prosecutor stressed to us that police officers were the laziest people you could wish to meet which coloured everything they did and therefore what we as prosecutors did .
It proved to be advice both useful and true.

Apologies to those decent ones out there.

439520 ▶▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to houdini, 8, #44 of 1400 🔗

When I was at school, I wanted to be in the police. Specifically, I wanted to be Helen Mirren in Prime Suspect. Catching killers and fighting sexism.

I was heartily dissuaded not to, by 2 policemen uncles who told me I would be working with the thickest people imaginable and would find it utterly dismal.

I also have a huge problem with authority, so there was that as well. I’d still like to be Helen Mirren though.

439590 ▶▶▶▶ james007, replying to houdini, 4, #45 of 1400 🔗

An older police officer told me that in his experience there are predominantly three types of police officer.
The first have a sense of vocation and want to be useful and respected members of their community. They join at 18 and work their way up the ranks, learning on the job, and building up experience and earning respect. Sadly not many of these. Many of them are retired.
Graduates who generally skip the lower ranks and want to be managers ASAP.
The final group are those who like driving fast in police cars, swooping in to situations to ‘sort people out’, and generally get an adrenaline kick.

438422 Friedrich Stapß, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 28, #46 of 1400 🔗

The four Es: engage, explain, encourage, enforce
evade, eschew, excoriate, exterminate.

438430 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 26, #47 of 1400 🔗

And of course egnore

438447 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 4, #48 of 1400 🔗

Lockdown Breakdown

as noted by LS reader EllGee in response to an earlier comment of mine

438423 Friedrich Stapß, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 64, #49 of 1400 🔗

Regarding the public finances, as a self-employed person who has not benefited by as much as one penny from the Treasury’s covid largesse, I’m thrilled to read that my national insurance might be hiked because we’re all in this together. It might only be £500 a year from me personally, but the haul will be a good couple of billion from all the self-employed. That’ll go a long way towards creating a drop for the ocean.

438475 ▶▶ Seanbellew, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 9, #50 of 1400 🔗

Not to mention increased corporation tax if you are a self-employed director of a limited company.

438485 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 16, #51 of 1400 🔗

It is in the 2019 manifesto not to increase NI. After what happened to Hammond when he tried it Company Tax on small business will be increased. Another utterly idiotic policy.

Note windfall tax on Amazon plans scrapped. What a shock!

438545 ▶▶▶ liztr835, replying to nottingham69, 9, #52 of 1400 🔗

I think taxing the big tax dodging multi nationals would be a good thing, however the windfall tax on Amazon, would probably mean they just pass it on to the 3rd party sellers, most people don’t realize that a huge amount of goods sold on that site, are sold by small/medium businesses, they will just hit them with higher fees.

439050 ▶▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to liztr835, 5, #53 of 1400 🔗

No probably about it, consumers will definitely pay any extra tax.
The big problem Amazon haters have is that Amazon doesn’t make a lot of “Profit”, their mission is continual expansion, so profits are kept low by continual reinvestment.
Hey why don’t we tax multinational investment instead 🙄

439754 ▶▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Nessimmersion, 3, #54 of 1400 🔗

Amazon’s mission is data collection.

438542 ▶▶ liztr835, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 11, #55 of 1400 🔗

Yes, me too, not a penny, whilst many I know have worked throughout and had huge amounts of SEISS money put in their account earning double bubble, and I think this has been the problem, although lots of genuine claims were made from people who needed it, lots claimed the money who were barely affected, more people are talking about this now and are angry about it, it should only have ever been for people badly hit by the lockdown.

I think in the next few months/years HMRC are going to be clawing this money back, as well as dodgy furlough claims, so we may be thankful in the end that we didn’t get anything.

438636 ▶▶▶ WasSteph, replying to liztr835, 7, #56 of 1400 🔗

As small business owners paying ourselves mostly through dividends we have received not one penny. We could have furloughed one of us and got 80% of the small amount of PAYE we pay ourselves but that seemed dishonest. I felt in the right not to do it and still do, although our overall income is much reduced.
I would really like to see the furlough money clawed back where taken dishonestly. A lot of firms were continuing to charge their customers full whack whilst furloughing part of the work force. e.g. our burglar alarm supplier was very late (months) coming to do the annual inspection and only made the booking after I complained, rather than chasing me for it as they did in previous years. The engineer on arrival told me he’d been on furlough for months previously and “really missed it”. No reduction whatsoever in our annual maintenance bill. Just one example and I’m sure there are many others.
I’ll probably write to HMRC about that one.

438650 ▶▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to WasSteph, 2, #57 of 1400 🔗

Other employers are said to have used furlough money to fund redundancy payments.

438644 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to liztr835, 6, #58 of 1400 🔗

I don’t think they will.The criteria is very lax.You only have to say your income has been impacted.A sum of £1 will do.
It was always hush money anyway.

438676 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 11, #59 of 1400 🔗

If Sunak at all believe that there should be a more equal sharing of the burden then perhaps he should consider a) an equal playing field for pensions between the public and private sector and b) those in safe, secure public sector jobs who don’t bear any economic risk should pay more tax for that privilege.

439755 ▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to vargas99, 2, #60 of 1400 🔗

Sunak’s billionaire wife is claiming furlouh for her company so I hear.

438740 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 7, #61 of 1400 🔗

Sunak just using the deadly virus as a trojan horse to hammer the self employed and small companies, he has never liked the self employed. He is not a Tory chancellor at all does not believe in small government and low taxes.

438983 ▶▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to Cumbriacracked, 11, #62 of 1400 🔗

Thatcher was the only one who understood and championed self employment. The grey suits she so despised are now well and truly in charge. The Treasury is systemically hostile to self-employment and would like to tax it out of existence. As in so many areas, the “pandemic” offers the perfect opportunity.

439057 ▶▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 6, #63 of 1400 🔗

If we wish to see the economy grow post lockdown there are two successful examples to copy:
1) Ludwig Erhard amd the postwar W German economic miracle.
2) Cowperthwaites Hong-Kong.

No doubt there will be lots of Venezuela lovers screeching for MOAR TAXES, but we have history to learn from if we choose to ignore ” It’s different this time because reasons”

439471 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 2, #64 of 1400 🔗

I’ll bet all those highly paid London workers who received London weighting allowance for the expense of travelling to and working in London have dutifully returned the income as undeserved now they are working from home. We are all in it together!

438425 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 18, #65 of 1400 🔗

The Woke have a tendency to turn on their own for the sin of not being Woke enough. I suspect we may be about to witness another example.

In the BBC’s coverage of the of the Six Nations rugby match between England and Wales, Martin Johnson said, “England have to be whiter than white.” The rest of the expert panel and Gabby Logan, the presenter, appeared to agree. Certainly there was no dissent.

438433 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Steve Hayes, 4, #66 of 1400 🔗

I’ve always been interested in the story of the 1970s criminal D.B. Cooper. Yes he held airline passenger’s hostage with the threat of a bomb, (which of course can’t be condoned) but it was two fingers to the establishment by getting away with it that made him a bit of an anti-hero & of interest.

There have been numerous documentaries & films about the story & suspects in the last 50yrs, come 2020 a new documentary film “The Mystery Of D.b. Cooper” introduces a new never before identified suspect, a transgender woman, who did the crime to pay for a sex change FFS !

438505 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to Steve Hayes, 8, #67 of 1400 🔗

The backlash from the new Gary Lineker KFC Walkers crisps is a hoot! The snake eating it’s tail. Fried chicken race row. No, I didn’t make it up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9307599/Gary-Lineker-embroiled-fried-chicken-race-row-white-man-Walkers-new-advert.html

438616 ▶▶ mj, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #68 of 1400 🔗

So does that mean that Mario Itoje must be dropped for the next game? . And the Vunipolas – what about them? .

439475 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Steve Hayes, #69 of 1400 🔗

Does that also apply to the All Blacks team?

438426 Judy Watson, replying to Judy Watson, 44, #70 of 1400 🔗

OK – here in LOS (land of Smiles) last night was a birthday party.

My housemate and myself got all tarted up and went out on the motorbike to the party. As ever no helmets and no face masks – we had our make-up on.

at least 50 people of many nationalities were there – about 18 of us crowded round a 10 seater table, elbow to elbow at the bar and groups of four playing pool. As always no anti-social distancing or the wearing of masks.

Evey ex-pat (except the Swedes) I have met all say how much better off we are here – living more or less normal lives and we are under military rule but as you can tell from my post yesterday we can all get out and about.

To DavidC if you bother to read this post I am well aware it is not not about microbiology or science but this is the life I live. If you saw the very poor housing and living conditions of the majority of Thais then you would understand why they have such robust immune systems.

Off to another party tomorrow as well – don’t know how much longer my liver will work though!!!

438431 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Judy Watson, 7, #71 of 1400 🔗

Furlough your liver might be an option

438438 ▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to Cecil B, 3, #72 of 1400 🔗

Don’t think so – I need to go out and meet up with people.

438789 ▶▶▶▶ LS99, replying to Judy Watson, 7, #73 of 1400 🔗

I think he means just drink 80% of what you would normally drink!

438427 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 21, #74 of 1400 🔗

Don’t They Know Lockdown isn’t Over

They look like they’re obeying the “rules” to me, serfs! “Follow the rules to save lives and protect the NHS.” even in cold text, sounds like a spin masters, sound bite.

The Bill Is How Much?

“They trust us” Ah hahaha hahaha ha. Who knew Sunak was a comedian. Barr sinking to new lows, quoting the “Guardian”.

Lockdown Sceptics ’ Legal Experts on Covid Testing in Schools

If the government “guidance” is not in law, why would you need legal advice? We all know it is assault to be forcibly given any medical intervention. Why do you need a test if you’re not sick?

What Level of Covid Deaths Will Necessitate a Fourth Lockdown?

What came first the chicken or the egg. How many deaths before the first lockdown? 3, 6, 9?

Professor Neil Ferguson’s Technocratic Despotism

Oh! FFS give it a rest!

In This Covid Pandemic, We’ve Been Plagued by Craven Leaders

No, we’ve not had a leader! Just technocrats.

“My husband died of a broken heart in a (nobody) care(s), (Not my) home alone an hour after I spoke to him on the phone”

Text in brackets my emphasis.

“Agree to hold a public inquiry to examine the true, full, effects of Lockdowns”

What we need is a free & impartial public inquiry to examine government malfeasance, I won’t hold my breath waiting.

Scientists clash over Scotland’s zero-Covid strategy

Do they have any scientists “managing” the pandemic north of the border?

COVID-19 antibodies: friend and foe!

Could the flu vaccines have caused the “ severe Covid and associated autoimmune reactions “?

Voters say make key workers have the Covid jab – and half of Brits want vaccine to be compulsory for every adult, MoS poll reveals

Funny that I saw a poll on the bma website that was overwhelmingly against it! The mails comment section reflects the same result. Establishment polls pffft.

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers (that you would never link)

My Choice – Van Valentine

Woke Gobbledegook – “systems of oppression”,

Teaching anti-government rallies?

And Finally…

Mr Barr, please resign from Lockdown Sceptics, you’re not appropriately qualified.

438435 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, #75 of 1400 🔗

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438887 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Anti_socialist, 9, #76 of 1400 🔗

Spending less and less time ATL when JB does LS. He is a big vax fan and stupidly thinks this is our way out. Perhaps he should spend a day reviewing whats said BTL to understand how we all feel. Everyone on here knows Ferguson is a useless lying clueless cunt. We do not need rebuttals we know everything he has said is bollocks. Everyone on here knows if lockdown ended tomorrow and we just let it rip and stopped testing the impact on deaths would be minimal and the virus is now endemic so infections would not overwhelm the health service. But the lives saved from Reopening the nhs to cancer, heart and all the rest of the health services would outweigh any covid infections. But the effect on improving mental health for Everyone would be incalculable but what a buzz that would give the country. Pubs, restaurants open. Go on fat pig dictator do one thing right!!!

439661 ▶▶ Rowan, replying to Anti_socialist, #77 of 1400 🔗

Excellent summary all round. I really loved that bit about Barr and I do wonder whether he has a day job at the Guardian, or some other fascist rag.

438429 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 43, #78 of 1400 🔗

Dear Mr Van Tam

That went well didn’t it

438434 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Cecil B, 6, #79 of 1400 🔗

Piers Morgan thinks Jonathan Van Tam is the best member of the government, a straight talker, whose use of metaphor is excellent.

438442 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Steve Hayes, 14, #80 of 1400 🔗

You mean “Morbidly Obese Morgan”?

438452 ▶▶▶▶ richmond, replying to Londo Mollari, 8, #81 of 1400 🔗

It’s a game show where grown-up people try to get a word in edgeways. I assume if they can manage it they win a prize. Never seen it happen though.

438463 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Steve Hayes, 25, #82 of 1400 🔗

Straight talkers don’t use metaphors, by definition.

438491 ▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Annie, 26, #83 of 1400 🔗

this is the kind of comment that keeps me certain that lockdown skeptics are sharper than the average knife and we’ll be able to cut thru the bullshit and get back to the promised land with most of the hair on our heads still intact.

439437 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Biker, 2, #84 of 1400 🔗

May the wing of your wit never moult a feather!

438476 ▶▶▶ PatrickF, replying to Steve Hayes, 4, #85 of 1400 🔗

Metaphors, not data are driving the Covid ‘policy’

438484 ▶▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Steve Hayes, 5, #86 of 1400 🔗

He would, somebody who talks as much shit as Morgan himself.

438688 ▶▶▶ vargas99, replying to Steve Hayes, 8, #87 of 1400 🔗

I wasn’t aware that VD was a member of the government? Who the fuck voted for him!

439838 ▶▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to vargas99, #88 of 1400 🔗

I remember when VD used to mean something entirely different. Perhaps VD really is the pox of society.

439663 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #89 of 1400 🔗

That says an awful lot about the both of them.

438432 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 102, #90 of 1400 🔗

More Ferguson shite! FFS! Are you guys serious?!

I’ll sum up Ferguson for you guys doing the writing above the line:

He’s a complete shit and just about every model he shits out is shit!

Now pack it in with giving this prick publicity!

438771 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Ceriain, 5, #91 of 1400 🔗

Agree.

438436 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 4, #92 of 1400 🔗

‘Don’t they know it’s freedom time at all’

As Band Aid once sang

438560 ▶▶ The Covid Kid, replying to Cecil B, 3, #93 of 1400 🔗

Or the 2021 version, ‘Do they know it’s Lockdown?’

438437 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 8, #94 of 1400 🔗

I hope Jonathan Barr isn’t being paid per article; the first ‘article’ is merely a link to the bloody Daily Mail. The second ‘article’ just links to three other MSM stories.

438439 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Ceriain, #95 of 1400 🔗

May explain why new posts are getting earlier, lack of effort! Just as well we don’t pay for it!

438441 ▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Ceriain, 9, #96 of 1400 🔗

At least today’s article was a little more encouraging than yesterday’s demoralising depiction of Von Tampax’s horrific visage.

438440 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 110, #97 of 1400 🔗

Peter Hitchens is very lucky that all the covid jab cost him as his freedom. A lot more people have had severe adverse reactions, including death. And Peter going along with the pharmaceutical fraud helps the powers-that-be implement their tyrannical vaccine passports.

438454 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Londo Mollari, 55, #98 of 1400 🔗

It remains to be seen if Peter and others only lose their freedom. There are likely medium and long-term effects as yet unknown, not least of which could be pathogenic priming/ADE (antibody dependent enhancement). This latter may show up next fall/winter as the flu “reappears” after taking a vacation. Autoimmune issues typically take a few years to manifest, so nobody is out of the woods by virtue of not dying or having an immediate adverse reaction.

438592 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 21, #99 of 1400 🔗

of course the majority of deaths will involve a time lag – possibly of up to 5 years. if people dropped dead within minutes of the injection it would make it harder for them to spin it as the deadly new strain that is taking hold as a result of all those selfish anti-vaxxers. They are so boringly predictable!

438658 ▶▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to JaneHarry, 13, #100 of 1400 🔗

Another form of death by ‘long lockdown’.

Two others being from 12 months denial of usual NHS services and suicides caused by bankruptcy, unemployment and lockdown induced depression.

438615 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 5, #101 of 1400 🔗

Well said.

438494 ▶▶ Biker, replying to Londo Mollari, 20, #102 of 1400 🔗

Peter Hitchens is a total fucking twat. Sure he says some things about the lockdown but he’s a god bothering buffoon with fucking marbles in his mouth and a huge chip on his shoulder because his brother really was the messiah while Peter is a very silly man. Let me know when Peter comes up with anything approaching “Arguably”. I might read it. I can’t be doing with all his christian, weed is bad, bullshit moralistic explanation for his imagined downfall of the UK.

438618 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Biker, 12, #103 of 1400 🔗

But he is mostly right – nobody imagined a non existent downfall of the UK. It ahs happened.

438497 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to Londo Mollari, 16, #104 of 1400 🔗

Hitchens is a classic hypocrite (controlled opposition?), as witnessed by his frothing opposition to ending the ‘War on Drugs’. A tee-totalotarian twat!

438511 ▶▶ Suzyv, replying to Londo Mollari, 79, #105 of 1400 🔗

Any positive thoughts about Peter Hitchens sadly now gone. He has just allowed and accepted the disgraceful manipulation and coercion for what he thinks are his freedom- papers please to buy his paper and bannanas. He has just contributed towards this nightmare that our kids and indeed ourselves may have to live in. If enough people have courage and stand firm ( and yes short term pain but let’s hope long term gain) then we may have a chance at fighting this. I now know of 2 people who in the last 2 days have given in to this jab not because they believe in it or want it, but because they might be excluded from their book or bridge club etc. Utterly weak.

438521 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Suzyv, 19, #106 of 1400 🔗

Oh no we can’t have this. We have to stay strong and say no.

438602 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Suzyv, 21, #107 of 1400 🔗

yes I am very disappointed in P Hitchens, who I had until now thought to be one of the good guys. hot on the heels of John Magufuli, who caved and introduced a mask mandate the other day in Tanzania.

438848 ▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Suzyv, 3, #108 of 1400 🔗

Well put Suzy!

438524 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Londo Mollari, 46, #109 of 1400 🔗

Indeed – very disappointed that Peter Hitchens gave way to this. As a sorta icon to the rest of us – then he has a responsibility to the rest of us to stand firm. He has let us down big-time by having the jab. He’s turned out to be “all mouth and no trousers” as the saying goes. Re the cowards-in-the-street who don’t wish to risk exclusion by the righteous vaxxed from a book club or the like – well we just have to put the pressure on. If I don’t hear from my book club and suspect it’s back to meeting as normal – then I know when and where it is and will just turn up.

438571 ▶▶ sophie123, replying to Londo Mollari, 61, #110 of 1400 🔗

I was so disappointed to hear he had taken it. We cannot know it’s safe yet. If he felt he needed to do so on the balance of risk, then fine. But to allow himself to be coerced into it preemptively?! that’s just mad.

I have a soft spot for Peter Hitchens as last March when I knew nobody else, including my husband most shockingly, who felt like the world had gone mad and was about to commit economic & social suicide for NO GOOD REASON, his was the first fellow sceptical voice I heard. I was terrified I would have to live the rest of my life surrounded by lunatics. It may sound like hyperbole, but I feel like he saved me then.

I am very sad for him now.

438584 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Londo Mollari, 24, #111 of 1400 🔗

Yes, I’m very disappointed in Peter for this.

438769 ▶▶ BertieFox, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #112 of 1400 🔗

Yes how disappointing!!

438820 ▶▶▶ Mic67, replying to BertieFox, 4, #113 of 1400 🔗

The worst thing is that he is loudly proclaiming that LS have “lost”. The ego!

438951 ▶▶ Rowan, replying to Londo Mollari, 13, #114 of 1400 🔗

When the pressure really builds up the establishment rebels will fold like the cardboard cutouts they are.

Despite some early deaths, the main dangers of the Covid vaccines, that aren’t vaccines, will only really begin to show up over the coming year or so.

Those that have unwisely allowed themselves to be injected, with these dangerous biological agents, now have a time bomb ticking away inside themselves and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.

439092 ▶▶▶ Bartleby, replying to Rowan, 19, #115 of 1400 🔗

I think Peter Hitchens will cope with the disapproval and disappointment. I can’t say as I’m a fan of his writings over the years, but he has my respect. He was early and strong in his criticisms of lockdowns and their impact on society and he’s been consistent on that matter arguing for people less fortunate than himself.

That he’s chosen to take a vaccine doesn’t make him a hypocrite and neither does it make him any less an opponent of lockdown. He’s taken an action which, if you believe the vaccine to be untested and harmful, puts literally no one else at risk but himself, whilst continuing to decry lockdowns, which harm everyone.

People need to separate how they feel about the covid vaccines from how they feel about lockdowns and loss of freedoms. There shouldn’t be only one acceptable position of anti-lockdown that is wholly dependent on how anti-covid-vaccine you are.

439253 ▶▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Bartleby, 5, #116 of 1400 🔗

but i cant seperate the two because the vaccine is the worst thing by far to me[ besides the masks of course !] no waywill i ever get that vaccine
ar any future ones they have planned

439358 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to sam s.j., 10, #117 of 1400 🔗

The masks are a symbol compliance, but for the most part their effects will not be permanent. The vaccines on the other hand, are at the heart of the Covid event and they always were.

When a lifelong eugenicist and a self confessed depopulationist, is behind every one of the frontrunner Covid vaccines, then you might think people should be concerned. But no, most of them won’t be at all bothered by the glaringly obvious apparent conflict, of what are diametrically opposed interests.

So they will go ahead and blithely roll up their sleeves, for one of the terminator vaccines and they will feel relieved and forever grateful. Of course, forever may be very much shorter than they would hope.

439440 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Rowan, 2, #118 of 1400 🔗

and he’s the evil one behind GMOS and monsanto

and now genetically engineered vaccines . he ‘s a crazy person

that was a sure warning sign to me ‘ genetically engineered’

of course now they’ll try to change the name like monsanto did to bayer we’re not that dumb we know is still monsanto !

439271 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Bartleby, 11, #119 of 1400 🔗

Do you really believe that the vaccines are a side issue? The whole Covid event has always been about vaccines and the vaccines are all about control and depopulation. The vaccinated are dead meat still walking, at least for a while.

439486 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bartleby, replying to Rowan, 9, #120 of 1400 🔗

Well it’s a very convoluted way of depopulating the planet. Requiring a virus that’s not very deadly, then a campaign of misinformation and hysteria to make it more so, then the creation of a clever vaccine which taps into the hysteria and which lies dormant for long enough to lull people into a sense of acceptance so it passes the emergency testing regime before whammo it starts to take out those who were approaching their final days anyway.

I get it, you think it’s about depopulation and that there is a conspiracy. It’s literally the most incompetent conspiracy I can think of.

And if you do believe it’s happening, then surely it’s the gullible who can’t see it who are way more at risk than any one who refuses the vaccine. You’ll be the beneficiary in many ways – way less idiots about in the future.

I support anyone’s right not to take the vaccine, and I’ll argue against mandatory passports and restrictions on those who choose not to take it, but I’m not upset by people who do take it, nor do I think it negates their opinions about how effective lockdowns and NPIs are.

I don’t begrudge you your opinion and I’m not trying to change your mind. BTL here it’s very anti-covid-vaccine but I can only go with my own opinion, just as you should go with yours.

438443 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 89, #121 of 1400 🔗

The fake couple William and Kate are urging us not to listen to fake news

An indication that victory is not far away

438446 ▶▶ Bigade, replying to Cecil B, 47, #122 of 1400 🔗

Getting desperate aren’t they? The search is surely on for an A-list celebratory to make some daft statements about the jab, as the Royals have very limited traction, confined to the home counties, Telegraph reading, Boris loving brigade who’d probably lie down and take a full rectal probe if the Dear Leader demanded it. Can’t see Kate and Wills cutting it with the residents in Mosside for example…

438451 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Bigade, 66, #123 of 1400 🔗

A Talkradio poll on Youtube showed a 50/50 split on the question of Lizzie telling her subjects to get the jab and not be selfish. However, comments underneath were 90% + against her. This raises the possibility of the poll being skewed. And we know that polls were manipulated and weaponised against Trump supporters. take no notice of opinion polls claiming to show huge numbers in favour of mandatory vaccinations.

438453 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Cecil B, 19, #124 of 1400 🔗

During the week vaccine roll outs for the 50+, 40+, 30+ and over 18s were announced on the BBC.
My immediate thought was that take up would decline in the younger groups because
A. They are increasingly less likely to suffer from Covid themselves.
B. They have longer to live with any negative side effects of the untested monkey spunk.

Jeremy Vines take on it is that the under 30s are ‘most likely to be the prey of false information, be victims to it on social media ‘.
His solution was, as you allude, to get younger celebrities, possibly Royals, to add to The Queens endorsement.

438470 ▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to karenovirus, 3, #125 of 1400 🔗

This from Telegraph YouTube today

438498 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to karenovirus, 69, #126 of 1400 🔗

They better send round some big blokes to make me take their virus, i mean vaccine. I’m 6’2, 14 stone and hard as fucking nails. I lift weights, walk hills, race bikes and love the ladies, and, i only put the healthiest of shit into my body, such as Drum Gold or Vodka that costs a minimum of 60 quid a bottle. Not for me crispy pancakes and a new world order experiment RNA nanobot goo.

438513 ▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Biker, 30, #127 of 1400 🔗

And I’m 5’2″, armed with a baseball bat, mean swing, and a bad attitude!

438531 ▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Jinks, 14, #128 of 1400 🔗

the wee man is often underestimated in his abilities to fight but being somewhat of a pugilist i appreciate it takes all sorts

438596 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Biker, 20, #129 of 1400 🔗

and wee woman.

438532 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Biker, 30, #130 of 1400 🔗

LOL LOL LOL at your description of yourself. I’ll raise you – as, looking at me, one wouldn’t think I could knock a feather over – at 5’2″ little woman in her 60’s – but do NOT upset me – because I’m a different version of “hard as nails” and there’s nothing weak about my voice or the words I’ll use and it has surprise value coming from a 60-something middle class little woman – hah!

438547 ▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to ElizaP, 26, #131 of 1400 🔗

i might have been exaggerating a bit there. I don’t drink (anymore) but when i did it was only the best of gear, none of your Blue Lightening or Smirnoff rubbish. I don’t do drugs either, nothings better than a clear head. I confess that i have eaten Crispy Pancakes but in my defence, i was courting one of the lower classes and her Mother would make them for tea and so i’ve eaten them with frozen chips and frozen peas, on my knee in front of the television. It was like i was in a Pulp video. Growing up such behaviour seemed unreal to me but when i did finally make it into a house off working class people it was a real eye opener. Did you know working class people hang washing on radiators. Blew my fucking mind.

438635 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Biker, 11, #132 of 1400 🔗

What else are they for?

438640 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Biker, 9, #133 of 1400 🔗

The working class round here never had radiators

438662 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Biker, 13, #134 of 1400 🔗

“Did you know working class people hang washing on radiators. Blew my fucking mind.”

I must be working class so 😉

438816 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ monica coyle, replying to Ewan Duffy, 1, #135 of 1400 🔗

Me too hahaha

438847 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Ewan Duffy, 2, #136 of 1400 🔗

I’ve never laughed so much on a Sunday morning before. Many thanks all X

439836 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Judy Watson, replying to Biker, #137 of 1400 🔗

Whats a radiator – I use a clothes horse in front of the gas fire – well i did when I was in England!!

438614 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to ElizaP, 21, #138 of 1400 🔗

My hero, when I was a kid, was this spirited Scouse lady in her 70’s, my neighbour Freda. She swore like a navvy, smoked 60 a day, despite having had half a lung removed. Her sons owned a string of butchers, and visited weekly in a blue and gold Rolls Royce. She insisted on living alone, in her one-bedroom ground floor flat, because she was fiercely independent (& couldn’t stand her DILs).
She’d swear at us and wave her stick if we ever got too rowdy, and all the kids (and adults) were terrified of her. I was very fortunate, she had a bit of a soft spot for me. In my early teens, I’d sometimes bunk off and sit in her kitchen, and smoke her fags. I knew I wanted to be just like her when I grew up.

438853 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Jinks, 6, #139 of 1400 🔗

Oh , what wonderful people on here, I feel normal now after all.

439259 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ 599chrish, replying to Jinks, 1, #140 of 1400 🔗

Sounds like many of the scousers I know!!
I can say – I have never met a scouser I didn’t like

438843 ▶▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to ElizaP, 7, #141 of 1400 🔗

Another one to make me feel good! So many lovely people on here I wish we could all meet up.I’m 2 inches taller, ElizabethP and very near to 80 but I’m very fit and very indominateable and I will not give in when a principle is involved. Strong women fight on.

438543 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Biker, 14, #142 of 1400 🔗

I’m 5’3 armed with gardening tools from Mr Bart’s allotment.

438558 ▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Bart Simpson, 8, #143 of 1400 🔗

A stick of Rhubarb is not only good for your bowels but makes a handy arrow for your garden Cane Bow

438590 ▶▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Bart Simpson, 6, #144 of 1400 🔗

I forgot – I’ve got a selection of garden tools as well. That includes a pretty lethal-looking sharp hook thing on long pole – weeds for the disposal of. Yeah – okay – I think it should handle weeds of the 5′ or more human variety too….and I could lend you a sorta multi-pronged long-handled tool I use for churning up the earth (nice and dirty with that wet clay soil predominant here in this part of the country).

438600 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to ElizaP, 4, #145 of 1400 🔗

Yep. Mr Bart has that too. Plus a mean looking rake and a heavy duty shovel.

438691 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ bluemoon, replying to Bart Simpson, 5, #146 of 1400 🔗

This is getting a bit too much Dad’s Army!

439489 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to bluemoon, 1, #147 of 1400 🔗

They don’t like it up ’em, you know!

439607 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Bart Simpson, #148 of 1400 🔗

Pitchforks are useful too

438869 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to ElizaP, 2, #149 of 1400 🔗

Does anyone need a rake? I am one such!

438792 ▶▶▶▶▶ BertieFox, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #150 of 1400 🔗

Nice one!!

438566 ▶▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Biker, #151 of 1400 🔗

Would Mel Gibson in kilt roaring at you to take the vaccine as he tosses his caber do anything to persuade you?

438599 ▶▶▶▶▶ Biker, replying to karenovirus, 7, #152 of 1400 🔗

I love Mel Gibson’s Braveheart. The cringe from the SNP wankers when that film came around was magnificent. Though saying that if i ever see a video of him tossing his caber i might change my mind.

439235 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Biker, 1, #153 of 1400 🔗

I saw it when it came out in London in 1995. About two-thirds of the audience were pumped-up Scots, one third English who seemed at times to think they had come to the wrong film.

438788 ▶▶▶▶ BertieFox, replying to Biker, 5, #154 of 1400 🔗

Yes I have noticed that large men don’t tend to get bullied about not wearing a mask as much as women do.

439610 ▶▶▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to BertieFox, 2, #155 of 1400 🔗

Or women like me. I’m 5 -7 and small framed but for some reason people are afraid to approach me. Likely because they can tell I’m spoiling for a fight!

438830 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Biker, 3, #156 of 1400 🔗

Ha, Ha,I love you Biker, so refreshing!

438860 ▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Biker, 1, #157 of 1400 🔗

I’m mid 70s, well knackered but still got my short axe handy from my ice-climbing days!

438601 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to karenovirus, 39, #158 of 1400 🔗

Dear Jeremy,
PLEASE could you give some examples of this “false information” and show us how it is false! THEN please state that the following information is TRUE:
All covid vaccines are approved only under “emergency use authorisation”
All covid mRNA vaccines did not complete the animal trial stage.
All covid vaccines will only complete the final stage of human trials in 2022/2023.
The Council of Europe has resolved that NO ONE should be coerced into taking the vaccines OR be denied any access to goods or services if they are do not wish to take a vaccine.
ALL vaccines are optional and INFORMED CONSENT must be given.
Please acknowledge that all the above are FACTS and not misinformation.
There is however a lot of misinformation being spread by celebrities who believe:
a) these vaccines have completed ALL the same trials as polio and smallpox vaccines
b) that vaccines never have any side effects
c) that the “only” way you will be allowed to see your loved ones is by taking the vaccine.

438727 ▶▶▶ alw, replying to karenovirus, 12, #159 of 1400 🔗

One has to wonder about Prince Philip who was vaccinated 6-7 weeks ago and now in his13th day in hospital…..

438778 ▶▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to alw, 12, #160 of 1400 🔗

That’s what I was thinking. I think Prince Charles is mad enough to have bought into the whole “if we don’t cull the population and prevent everyone from travelling around, the world will end in 20 years” so it is possible he’s okay with everything they are doing…

438823 ▶▶▶▶▶ Burlington, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 9, #161 of 1400 🔗

Charlie is in with the NWO and mates with Clunk Schwab on the WEF.

439265 ▶▶▶▶ 599chrish, replying to alw, 7, #162 of 1400 🔗

I read on Lockdown Sceptics some time ago that the Pfizer vaccine effectively, shuts down the immune system for a week or so
It appears there is a clear link to the sudden sharp rise in elders dying in nursing homes post vaccine?
Well ! no s— ?

438455 ▶▶ Richard O, replying to Cecil B, 45, #163 of 1400 🔗

Now that the Royal Family have been co-opted as Big Pharma shills, that really doesn’t leave the establishment with many further options.

If this was not a secular nation then they could wheel out the Archbishop of Canterbury to advise his flock that: “ GOD told me it is your duty to take the vaccine.

438464 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Richard O, 49, #164 of 1400 🔗

He will do it anyway, the servile, crawling, godless, posturing twerp.
I look to the day when he offers Canterbury Cathedral as a centre for anal swab tests. Up with your cope, Jellybaby.

438518 ▶▶▶ Suzyv, replying to Richard O, 15, #165 of 1400 🔗

Didn’t the Pope say something a while back how these vaccines were fine, although maybe I am wrong. Even though the Oxford/ Astrazenca is from “cells taken from the kidney of a legally aborted foetus”.

438537 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Suzyv, 10, #166 of 1400 🔗

Well that fact alone – ie of foetal tissue being one of the components – was all I needed to seal the deal and ensure my best friends (who happen to be evangelical version of Christianity) swung right against it on the spot. Coup de grace was sending them that short little YouTube video of Bill G*tes boasting about engineering the “God gene” out and, if he turned up on their doorstep for a cup of tea, it would likely get thrown straight over his head and he’d get frogmarched back down the garden path.

438782 ▶▶▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to ElizaP, 2, #167 of 1400 🔗

What video is THAT?!?! Do share!

438798 ▶▶▶▶ BertieFox, replying to Suzyv, 1, #168 of 1400 🔗

I heard Joseph Farrell on YouTube say that he believes this Pope is a regime change Pope for the virus Agenda.

438495 ▶▶ Biker, replying to Cecil B, 38, #169 of 1400 🔗

I find William repugnant. His fucking coupon is ugly as fucking shit and as far as his intellect, i don’t think he has one. Fucking inbred royals fucking leeching from normal people all their spoiled lives and still they want us to thank them for it. The day that fucking retard Charles or his fake soe William (king Carlos of Spain is his dad, check it out) becomes King will be hilarious. I can’t imagine how dumb one must be to support such people.

438522 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Cecil B, 4, #170 of 1400 🔗

God let’s hope so. Surely people can see through all this now?

438549 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Cecil B, 26, #171 of 1400 🔗

Jeez…..they’re really that desperate aren’t they? Shows how even the Queen’s intervention has gone down like a lead balloon they now have to resort to the Cambridges.

438791 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Bart Simpson, 3, #172 of 1400 🔗

Fat Boy: We hoped to keep her back as a last resort but we’re in trouble here guys. It’s time for the MOAB. Get me Meghan on the line.

439342 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 1, #173 of 1400 🔗

Hahaha!!! I can imagine that this seriously happened.

439416 ▶▶▶ StanleyDuke, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #174 of 1400 🔗

Look closely at the “Queen’s intervention”. It was CGI.

438577 ▶▶ sophie123, replying to Cecil B, 11, #175 of 1400 🔗

What fake news are they asking us not to listen to? All the stuff about Rose Hanbury? His Uncle Andrew?

438448 richmond, replying to richmond, 34, #176 of 1400 🔗

£280 billion. I wonder how much Hydroxychloroquine you can buy for that?

438450 ▶▶ Bigade, replying to richmond, 29, #177 of 1400 🔗

and Ivermetcin

438449 Bigade, replying to Bigade, 66, #178 of 1400 🔗

I’m in a FB group related to an area of North Devon we visit often. Was pleasing to see someone had posted a bit of moan about the hoardes swamping the front and beaches this weekend due to the fine weather but that his comments were drowned out by the clear majority view that it was all fine and an obvious response to the goverments draconian, totalitarian lockdown nonsense which was stifling people. Barely one bedwetter suggesting people should stay home, the clear majority being in favour of people being out and about. And the side bar comments about need for vaccination elicited even more good comments, all against the jab, highlighting adverse reactions and deaths, etc. Based on this one group and comment thread in North Devon I’d say at least 60% now had enough and seeing through the lies and crap!

438465 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Bigade, 28, #179 of 1400 🔗

In my area of North Devon, Torridge, the Gov dashboard currently shows 6 +ve tests over the last 7 days, which is probably below the level of statistical significance. Although the data is not everything nonetheless is does seem that the falling data has helped to drain away the fear factor in this area. By all accounts this draining away of the fear factor is spreading like a?????? pandemic!
To the extent that I am almost wondering if this if the Government’s plan (if they have a plan), it is as if they are tired of this and want to move on with whatever dastardly doings they have up their sleeves for the next round of nonsense they wish to impose on us.

438637 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Steve Martindale, 9, #180 of 1400 🔗

Less than 3 here on Dartmoor – i.e. they have no one. The virus doesn’t like Devon.

No need whatsoever for anyone here taking any ‘precautions’ whatsoever.

438884 ▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #181 of 1400 🔗

PCR? Meaningless! Criminal to use them!

439741 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Bungle, #182 of 1400 🔗

Yes. Absolutely. It is a criminal act.

438552 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Bigade, 26, #183 of 1400 🔗

That doesn’t surprise me. More and more people I suspect are waking up and seeing through the lies. The Bel Mooney article has elicited a huge response as is the Daily Mail piece that’s questioned the deaths!

438606 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Bart Simpson, 19, #184 of 1400 🔗

This is a MAJOR turning point, I believe. It opens the flood gates for the questioning. It’s a house of cards. It will fall fast!

438634 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 18, #185 of 1400 🔗

Exactly. The DM has been innundated with letters and comments and they’ve publisihed loads of it. The more people read it the more it plants the seeds of doubt on their minds.

438562 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Bigade, 8, #186 of 1400 🔗

They were and are still collaborators. A last minute conversion in the sunshine changes nothing

438457 PatrickF, replying to PatrickF, 26, #187 of 1400 🔗

What are you doing?
Excercising, officer.
Did you start walking with your left foot first, or your right foot?
I started hopping on my left foot, three hops, then stopped, then started walking on my right foot.
Where are you going?
To my destination, officer.
Where is your destination?
Where my feet take me, officer.
Where are these feet?
At the end of my legs, officer.
Can you prove these are your feet?
Er…I think I’ve got feet ID papers at home, but not with me.
Right. That’s a fine. £50 for the first offence, going up to £10,000 and a 10 year prison sentence.
It’s a fair cop.
Are you referring to my skin colour, sonny?
Oh for ffs…..

438493 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to PatrickF, 13, #188 of 1400 🔗

You have the right to remain silent according to recent ruling. If it goes to court the case will be thrown out. Does anyone on here have any interest in what the police say or do?

438774 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Basileus, 11, #189 of 1400 🔗

Just keep saying the words “I have a reasonable excuse.” Say nothing else. Even in court. Apparently Ireland is trying to change the law to force people to provide evidence of such excuse. But they cannot force you to reveal private or confidential details of your life that could incriminate yourself do I don’t think that even goes anywhere…

438890 ▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 7, #190 of 1400 🔗

In my car I have a piece of paper saying “sorry officer, I cannot talk. I have a valid reason for travel to do with mental health.I cannot say any more.”

439491 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Bungle, 2, #191 of 1400 🔗

i) Am I under arrest?
ii) Am I free to go?
iii) if no goto i)

438620 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to PatrickF, 21, #192 of 1400 🔗

Anyone else come up with the theory that these ridiculous fines (£10,000 for not enforcing masks in your pub, €60,000 for not getting a vaccine in northern Spain) are a psy op in themselves. Grooming people to get used to these big figures for their MAD plan to charge us “carbon points” every time we step outside of our house. “That’s 60,000 points to go to the beach on a Saturday. 10,000 points to drive to Sainsbury’s in your car. 45,000 to hug your granny but 250,000 if you’re a filthy unvaccinated biological human being.” They are literally that insane.

438720 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 15, #193 of 1400 🔗

I think they are. As many people have pointed out something is very wrong if fines for not wearing a mask is more than for assault.

438458 Richard O, replying to Richard O, 35, #194 of 1400 🔗

There are no legal or ethical issues with vaccine passports, because we live in a society that has abandoned law and morality. It’s that simple, and is why they will be implemented before the end of this year.

438624 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Richard O, 18, #195 of 1400 🔗

Not true. Fake news. I do not know a single person who would agree to them except the mad celebrities who fear being “cancelled”. The economy would never survive this insane idea and the economy is on the brink of collapse. We will go back to normal. That’s the end of it. Until people start dying of nasty long-term side effects from mask wearing and experimental vaccines, and the inquiry starts.

438461 PatrickF, 9, #196 of 1400 🔗

Who’s the better actor? Jonathan Van Tam (he’s the MAN) or Jean Claude Van Damme (he’s GOOD)

438462 richardw53, replying to richardw53, 8, #197 of 1400 🔗

Here is a link to a copy of the WEF Silent Cities video that was removed from Twitter yesterday: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/27/great-reset-architects-celebrate-the-orderly-quiet-of-covid-lockdown-cities/

438466 ▶▶ Annie, replying to richardw53, 21, #198 of 1400 🔗

The orderly silence of death.
The orderly stench of decay.

438467 Annie, replying to Annie, 18, #199 of 1400 🔗

Dungford ‘hopes’ to get Welsh schools open AFTER EASTER.
Words fail me.

438478 ▶▶ PatrickF, replying to Annie, 4, #200 of 1400 🔗

Easter 2026?

438480 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Annie, 39, #201 of 1400 🔗

We had a teacher in yesterday who thought it was ‘appalling’ that she was expected to work for a few weeks before easter. Business partner suggested they work through the holidays. She didn’t like that!

438557 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to kh1485, 22, #202 of 1400 🔗

I would have had the urge to tell her to resign if she thought it was “appaling” to work before Easter or throughout the holidays. That’s the trouble with people who have remained paif throughout this shit show. The story would have been different have they not been paid or had their pay been cut.

438579 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Bart Simpson, 6, #203 of 1400 🔗

Yep – Bart cutting to the chase again. You go gal….

438529 ▶▶ Biker, replying to Annie, 13, #204 of 1400 🔗

They will rise like Jesus after easter and before you know it they’ll be back teaching the kids all about diversity and inclusion and all the other communist buzz words these utter brain dead slaves think is good and decent. Kids not being at school is the best thing to happen to children since the state started herding children into rooms to school them in whatever it was they thought.

438469 TheClone, replying to TheClone, 13, #205 of 1400 🔗

2019 will be remembered as the last year of freedom!

438581 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to TheClone, 5, #206 of 1400 🔗

We wern’t that free

438627 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to TheClone, 10, #207 of 1400 🔗

Nope. It will be remembered as the last year of control through mass psy op manipulation, the dawn of the second enlightenment.

438641 ▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 5, #208 of 1400 🔗

That’s my light-at-end-of-the-tunnel of this satanic shit-show!

439573 ▶▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Jinks, #209 of 1400 🔗

me too thank you CivilianNotCovidian and Jinks

438472 Liewe, replying to Liewe, 32, #210 of 1400 🔗

The Auckland lockdown made me giggle uncontrollably. Mother Nature is a bitch, isn’t she? Have fun with Zero Covid, Jacinda.

438550 ▶▶ optocarol, replying to Liewe, 8, #211 of 1400 🔗

Not much of a laugh for those who live here…

438669 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Liewe, 3, #212 of 1400 🔗

New Zealand’s isolation was never going to protect them forever. Once Covid gets going there the end result will be much the same as everywhere else (unless the vaccine sees off the vulnerable first).

439493 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Liewe, 4, #213 of 1400 🔗

Zero Covid really means Infinite Lockdown

438474 Laurence, 4, #214 of 1400 🔗

A comment and a question on the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries’ figures:

The argument that 2019 is a better comparator for excess deaths than the average of the last 5 years because the graphs were similar before week 10 (their date for start of the pandemic) is very weak. The graphs of 2012 and 2016 also started in a very similar way but the outcomes for those years were excess deaths of around -2% and -1% respectively.

The letter above quotes that of the 71,200 excess deaths to date, 47,621 are due to lockdown – can someone please give me the source of the 47,621 figure as I can’t locate it on their website ?

438477 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 15, #215 of 1400 🔗

Stourbridge news last Friday:”Police notice that a lot of people in Brierley Hill are gathering in groups!”
PATHETIC OR WHAT?

438482 ▶▶ PatrickF, replying to Fingerache Philip, 10, #216 of 1400 🔗

In groups? Groups? I can’t believe what I’ve just read. That’s got to be fake news, surely.

438490 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to PatrickF, 5, #217 of 1400 🔗

Who said that the police haven’t got a sense of humour?

438800 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Fingerache Philip, 5, #218 of 1400 🔗

Bloody social animals.

438479 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 82, #219 of 1400 🔗

I was very disappointed with Peter Hitchens mail on Sunday column
https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/
It is not just that he has been vaccinated it is that for man with a much greater intellect than me he seems to have fallen into the trap of just talking about ‘ the vaccine’ as if there is just one and you do not need to check it out.
I hardly need to point out to people here that there are a whole range of covid potions with very different technologies but if you ask people which version they have had they are puzzled? if you ask them if they are happy with m-RNA technology they are equally dumbfounded. Previous vaccines for things like yellow fever seem to be just one type with international acceptance but these covid potions seem very different, with a wide range of technologies.

Peter Hitchens says he has had the jab to facilitate International travel and so it seems bizarre that he has rushed to have the jab now. We are a long way from any International agreement on Covid vaccinations and it may be that some African countries will only accept some specific covid potions. Meanwhile there are a number of Covid potions coming down the line which may be slightly less scary should you ever need one for International Travel. Should the NHS ever phone me to have the jab? which they haven’t yet, my questions will be ‘can the jab you are offering guarantee me entry to Canada and Uganda? if not i am definitely waiting.

So I am afraid Mr Hitchens for an intelligent man, to my mind, you have not thought this through, you have not done your homework on the covid potions technologies and you have assumed with no evidence, that the jab you have had will get you jetting around the world.

438487 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Steve Martindale, 24, #220 of 1400 🔗

He just accepted the idea of the vaxx passport. It looks like he knows the vaxx passport will be in place soon. Say good bye to your freedom and welcome to Gulag Britain.

438500 ▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to Steve Martindale, 18, #221 of 1400 🔗

There are quite a few people I follow on twatter who I had formerly believed to be pretty sound on most things but are now posting with almost messianic fervour about having had the jab and what a relief it is after having covid hanging over their head for months (their words, not mine).

438553 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to disgruntled246, 26, #222 of 1400 🔗

Ever heard the phrase “having the last laugh” – and one or two years down the line it will be us having that last laugh – as we’ve had the sense to refuse the Jab and just gritted our teeth through any temporary discomfort and “fighting” we have to do, if need be, to force our way back into any places the vaxxed are allowed back into and someone is daft enough to try and exclude us. They will be laughing the other side of their face when we are the healthy ones in a couple of years time (apart from any illnesses of our own that some of us might have). The health of the vaxxed, on the other hand, will have caved in to it or will clearly be at risk of problems we aren’t at risk of.

438593 ▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to ElizaP, 20, #223 of 1400 🔗

I envisage a future, where the vaccinated have to be declared on a national register, so that the unvaccinated, have the opportunity to check their status, for fear of any birth defects in future progeny, or any risk to their own health of impregnation by a potential GMO.

438670 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Jinks, 17, #224 of 1400 🔗

I can also see those of us who are unvaccinated being preferable to future employers as less likely to be disappearing on long term illness.

438898 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Jinks, 15, #225 of 1400 🔗

There is a darker idea that some like Dolores Cahill have actually raised: the government may say that those who have been genetically modified have no rights as men and women and are owned by a corporation. That would apply to their ancestors, also.

I don’t know what is going to happen. I trust NO BRANCH of the Establishment, political, medical, scientific.

It is the END of something and the BEGINNING of something else, I can feel it.

439530 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to FedupofLies, 2, #226 of 1400 🔗

Edit: I meant descendants. Could be nonsense, I don’t know.

If there is nobody to trust and the world has gone mad anyway, to whom do we turn for explanation?

438681 ▶▶▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to ElizaP, 10, #227 of 1400 🔗

I hope you’re right, not that I wish ill effects on anybody (well not most people anyway) but it has the potential to be an uncomfortable period until the scales fall from some people’s eyes.

438502 ▶▶ Bill Grates, replying to Steve Martindale, 32, #228 of 1400 🔗

Anyone with two brain cells would surely be tempted to wait until the vax passport process/requirement was installed before getting the vax. Seems rather cart before horse.

looks like more persuasive propaganda techniques. He probably wants to keep his job, Hitchens and others have been wilfully blind over all this

438530 ▶▶▶ Suzyv, replying to Bill Grates, 44, #229 of 1400 🔗

I agree. I am not convinced that any vax passport can actually work long term. The adverse reactions are coming in thick and fast and it’s only the tip of the iceberg right now. The trials still have a couple of years to run so they are experimental jabs. There is no clear evidence of them preventing any transmission of anything (despite what the media are being told to put out) and a “passport” breaks just about every law there is- disability discrimination, data protection laws and human rights laws. And the fact of the matter is there is no health emergency, there never was and certainly isn’t now to override any laws. The Europeans don’t seem to want the vaccines, the vax centres are empty in Germany, Belgium and the French are not keen. The whole idea is fraught with problems. I take the view stand firm, I do have hope that this will all unfold. Maybe in the Autumn when they attempt to lockdown again (due to seasonal colds and flu) and those with some brain cells remember that actually they have been jabbed for their so called freedoms. Oh yes the new variants..

438589 ▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Suzyv, 13, #230 of 1400 🔗

Be rather amusing if, come autumn, the Jabberwockies fall fowl of the lowly rhinovirus due to vaxx complications

438625 ▶▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Suzyv, 20, #231 of 1400 🔗

Yep, it’s all bluster. It will blow over, and may well leave a terrible legacy for those panicked into taking the poison.

Sad of me I know, but there’s something very satisfying from being able to say ‘I was right’. And even more satisfying from not even having to say it, but everyone knowing it. Horrible aren’t I.

And the money from my discrimination claims will coming in handy.

439264 ▶▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to Suzyv, 2, #232 of 1400 🔗

so well written and exactly what i think .i am very stubborn i will stand firm for sure. patience everyone , im going to travel and i will never get a vaccine

439146 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Bill Grates, 8, #233 of 1400 🔗

Agreed. I am not implacably against the the covid “vaccines”, but I see no need to accept any of them at this stage. In due course it will become clearer if adverse consequences are common, and if some of the “vaccines” are better than others. It will also become clearer if “vaccine passports” are practicable and what situations they’ll be required for – my belief is “not really” and “not much”. Life is full of compromises, and it may turn out that I’ll choose to accept a vaccination if I consider it unlikely to be harmful and required for things I want to do. But I’m not going to jump the gun by accepting it prematurely – cart before horse as you say.

438506 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Steve Martindale, 26, #234 of 1400 🔗

Hitch is knocking on and we don’t know his health record, or the advice he has been given,

I prefer to remember the bravery he showed sticking his neck out at the time most of the damage now baked in could have been reduced. Last May, June, July. The way he took it to the MSM with the face “muzzles”, how they hated that.

Now Hitch has dipped out of the fight but as many now have had enough, they started too late. The policy this winter will prove utterly ruinous in all ways. Financial, economic and mortality wise. Even more it will condemn millions of the young to a life without purpose or prospects, many more with reduced education, we were not that good at that before the schools were shut for a year.

438515 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to nottingham69, 33, #235 of 1400 🔗

His bravery counts for nought.He has maintained throughout that this has been about incompetence.He refused to see what was in front of him.Please explain how you establish a police state in a bungled response to a virus.
To submit now,just as opposition has begun to form is a act of cowardice and defeatism.

438539 ▶▶▶▶ nottingham69, replying to jonathan Palmer, 13, #236 of 1400 🔗

Incompetence and cowardice to begin with I would agree with that. The police state has really gathered pace since September and the opposition forming is too late, to reverse most of the damage.

There were not too many taking the line Hitch took last spring and summer but he was right. Doing the right thing at the right time counts for plenty in my eyes.

438587 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ossettian, replying to nottingham69, 14, #237 of 1400 🔗

How exactly does incompetence explain deliberate changes to the rules last March to make it possible for people to be recorded as covid victims without there being any evidence of infection?

How exactly does incompetence explain them making it much easier to “section” people?

438612 ▶▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to nottingham69, 16, #238 of 1400 🔗

It is obvious that our government and nearly all western governments are following a plan.Where it comes from and where it leads to is up for debate.
As for Hitchens l,he did stand almost alone at the start and helped me realise I wasn’t on my own as the country descended into mass hysteria.
That being said if you read what he says about the ‘vax’ he is being utterly defeatist.
He concedes that they will lead to a health passport and he wants to keep his place in the queue despite knowing they will end freedom.
If you read the twitter replies there is absolute glee from his enemies that they have claimed his scalp.

438832 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Steve Martindale, 17, #239 of 1400 🔗

He has been badly scarred by the fact that all of us writing to our MP had fuck all impact. He believes in democracy but this unprecedented killing of democracy has hurt him. So he thinks this is his way out. I am afraid Peter you have not thought this through. A lot of Europe is not taken in by the vaccine bullshit and the vaccine passport will fall flat without every country taking up full compliance. He has refused to look at the vaccine horror stories as he does not want to be labelled as an anti vaxxer. There are worse things to be called, but you are okay with covidiots? We needed him as a lone voice at the beginning, thanks for that and your bravery but your time has passed and you are just treading water now. I cancelled my subscription to talk radio after Ian Collins disgraceful vaccine diatribe. So goodbye Peter thanks for all the fish….

438865 ▶▶ Burlington, replying to Steve Martindale, 4, #240 of 1400 🔗

Hitchens obviously hasn’t seen this article:
31 reasons why I wont take the “vaccine”.
https://gloria.tv/post/tMSBhraMafBJ2XDDZDi2BnURi

438481 PatrickF, 13, #241 of 1400 🔗

I was greatly cheered by the photo of people out and about on Hampstead Heath, yesterday. Then I looked at the bottom left corner and saw two zombies!

438483 FiatLux, 6, #242 of 1400 🔗

All this vaccination is bad news for cannibals and Soylent Green aficionados, as any self-respecting consumer will baulk at eating GM humans.

438486 Biker, replying to Biker, 96, #243 of 1400 🔗

Dear Government, get off our fucking backs you utter cunts.
Sincerely
normal people

438508 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Biker, 58, #244 of 1400 🔗

People thought they were voting for a jolly, happy go lucky, trustworthy good guy but instead they got authoritarian, oppressive, Big Government delivered by a nasty dictator dressed up in a teddy bear costume.

438525 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to Steve Martindale, 27, #245 of 1400 🔗

I’ve always assumed that anyone who wants to be in government, or a member of the council for that matter, to be untrustworthy. Being a bit of a fan of Ayn Rand i assume that people’s need to be virtuous in public makes them very sinister indeed and not some to be trusted in any way. She considered Virtue to be the worst of all the human characteristics and from my experience i feel she was right.

438561 ▶▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Biker, 11, #246 of 1400 🔗

Fake virtue is what I think she meant, the ‘virtue’ of the ‘public good’, like Wesley Mooch, who under the pretext of the common good, rapes businesses. We the people in the UK have just experience one year of rape and anal sex. Apparently the Covidiots enjoyed it.

438806 ▶▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Biker, 11, #247 of 1400 🔗

The problem is all these politicians look like the kids always the last three left that neither captain wanted for football/rugby/cricket. The ones you would clip round the ear as you walked past and the first ones tangoed! The kids hit with spitwads in class and given nicknames like shaggy or squidly diddly or mouse. Now this is them getting their fucking own back on us team captains. Is it too late to say sorry, it would explain why they shut down gyms, tennis courts and sports halls. Places they never visit!

439609 ▶▶▶▶ zubin, replying to Biker, -1, #248 of 1400 🔗

Wow another Ayn Rand fan. Brilliant

438519 ▶▶ Stephen Williams, replying to Biker, 24, #249 of 1400 🔗

Spot on. Love your style. I don’t understand some of the big words by clever people. Boris and his chums are arsehole, mother fucking, bastard, kiddie fiddling, cross eyed twats.

438565 ▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Stephen Williams, 8, #250 of 1400 🔗

How do you really feel ? 🙂
They do think they are ‘clever’ but they are not, being involved with politics I noticed that most of these people are psychotic along a scale, some less so than others, but the sociopathology is always there, and there are not very clever at all.

439087 ▶▶▶▶ Stephen Williams, replying to FerdIII, 1, #251 of 1400 🔗

FerdIII.

I’m not sure who you are refering to. The Government or Lockdown Sceptics?

I will say that the antics of Boris and his chums are probably enough to give the Queen tourettes.

S

438563 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Biker, 3, #252 of 1400 🔗

Another one on here that believes in telling it like it is LOL.

438617 ▶▶▶ Biker, replying to ElizaP, 20, #253 of 1400 🔗

I don’t know what is true about much but i tell you this i know what i like and number one on that list is to be left alone by the bloody government and it’s acolytes

438583 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Biker, 8, #254 of 1400 🔗

Yes. Repeal Corona Virus Act. Now.

438488 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 82, #255 of 1400 🔗

They now have plans to run an advertising campaign encouraging grandparents to speak to their adult grandchildren, persuading them to get vaccinated. I think this is one of their lowest blows yet. There is enough division already between families, this will only add to it. If my vaccinated, government supporting in laws try and persuade my 18 year old son to get vaccinated, I will be livid. He does not need this vaccine. People are taking it because they think it will make them free. It won’t, it will make them slaves. They will have to follow every instruction given by their masters, including frequent booster shots, or they will be punished with exclusion from society. The government will hold ever increasing power over the lives of those who take the jab, potentially like the Chinese social scoring system. We must say no to lockdowns, masks, tests, vaccines and passports. Anyone who says yes to any of these is encouraging the passports and the enslavement of our nation. The fact they are getting families to persuade each other, along with our Queen tells us how desperate they are. They will stop at nothing to ensure we are all jabbed up. The vaccine take up must be a lot lower than they are claiming, or the need for such pushy campaigns wouldn’t be needed. They know they have a battle on their hands to persuade us all, so they have taken off the gloves and are happy to fight dirty. The great part about this though is, the more they try and persuade us through these low moves, the more people are waking up. Will they need to find another new variant, or a new crisis soon, to frighten everyone back into their homes? We should be ready for them to try anything.

438501 ▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to Liberty, 52, #256 of 1400 🔗

The more they bang on about it, the more determined I am not to have it.

438504 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Liberty, 20, #257 of 1400 🔗

New York SuperCovid
’11 times deadlier than normal covid’
went quiet very quickly, perhaps they put it back in the drawer to bring back later.

438512 ▶▶ Van Allen, replying to Liberty, 35, #258 of 1400 🔗

Why are the “powers that be” so desperate that everyone starts accepting a regular jab for an illness that is unlikely to cause them serious harm, and many of them are already immune from? The risks from the disease are quantifiable, the risks from the jab are not. Is this just part of their divide and conquer strategy?

438516 ▶▶▶ TheClone, replying to Van Allen, 15, #259 of 1400 🔗

Vaxx passport to control the populace

438598 ▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Van Allen, 10, #260 of 1400 🔗

😷 + 💉 = 🤑 + 🤒 🤢 🤮 🤧

438808 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to karenovirus, 4, #261 of 1400 🔗

💀

439163 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Van Allen, 3, #262 of 1400 🔗

Your penultimate sentence is a succinct description of my view – I’ve written it down for future use!

438517 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Liberty, 40, #263 of 1400 🔗

All the data is dropping fast, I am not a statistician but I would guess that much of the data is now getting close to the level of statistical significance? In which case why are they not happy, proclaiming victory, packing up the circus and moving on? The fact they are still anxiously pushing this vaccine whilst the virus seems to have disappeared up its own fundament only leads one to conclude that this vaccine is about far more than public health disease control.

439016 ▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Steve Martindale, 4, #264 of 1400 🔗

Too much of the agenda remains to be implemented..

438520 ▶▶ Biker, replying to Liberty, 9, #265 of 1400 🔗

I’m in two minds about the uptake of the gene therapy jag. I seem to know a lot of people of all ages desperate to get it.

438548 ▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to Biker, 16, #266 of 1400 🔗

I think it is another huge division, those who will be jabbed and those who won’t. I find it most sad when people take it just to get their freedom back. They are so deceived. I also know many people who are happy to take it. I find the Telegraph comments generally very encouraging though because almost no one on there wants the jab. I also read that only 57% of doctors took the jab when they were offered it.

438609 ▶▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Liberty, 11, #267 of 1400 🔗

I’ve been to see my GP and into the main hospital 5 times recently. All the medical staff wear the simple blue/white mask (compulsory), only the receptionists compete to be seen in the fancier ones.

Tells me lots about what medics really think.

438851 ▶▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to karenovirus, 4, #268 of 1400 🔗

I am sure they have seen that the Belgian government had to return 15m of those fancy masks due to toxicology issues. They have probably weighed the risk of this deadly disease vs microfibers in their lungs and made an informed decision to protect others first

439013 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Liberty, 1, #269 of 1400 🔗

57% seems a lot to me. Over half the doctors brainwashed?

438603 ▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Biker, 2, #270 of 1400 🔗

They think it will mean that they can go on holiday abroad again this year.

438528 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Liberty, 5, #271 of 1400 🔗

absolutely they will – as surely as night follows day. and you know too who is going to be scapegoated for the new wave of authoritarian measures

438576 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Liberty, 26, #272 of 1400 🔗

More signs that they’re really getting desperate.

To this day I still don’t know of anyone who’s died of the virus much less have it. But I know of two people who have had developed side effects from the vaccine. One of them is still sick, its nearly a week since she felt funny after having the jab.

I get the feeling that the government are unable to control the tsunami of information following the Daily Mail’s article about covid deaths and anectdotal evidence about the vaccine side effects. Not to mention that uptake is slowing down so they have to ramp up the pressure.

438622 ▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to Bart Simpson, 34, #273 of 1400 🔗

Lies will always be found out, but they will tell more lies to cover their tracks. We must NEVER forget that this is all based on lies. Lies about deaths with or of Covid, lies about false positives, lies about how it started, lies about vaccine safety and efficacy, lies about other effective treatments and lies about masks being useful. This virus and its handling is like a house built on sand and one day it will fall. I choose to build my life on rock, on Christ, on truth. If we buy into the lies we will fall along with their house of lies and be crushed by it. Stand for truth and you will not be shaken. Stand for truth and no lies will shake your conviction. We must remember where this started or we will be sucked into their web of deception.

439751 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Liberty, 1, #274 of 1400 🔗

Liars always get found out. I think you will find that Dr Reiner Fuellmich will have the answers in due course. God be with him.

438746 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Liberty, 16, #275 of 1400 🔗

So many unknown long term side effects with this jab.

Any young-ish person that might want a family in future should stay away from these jabs.

Focus on building immunity – that is the thing that allowed us to survive as a species over thousands of years.

438873 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Victoria, 7, #276 of 1400 🔗

This news that Hitchens is false opposition has really made me realise.

THIS IS SERIOUS NOW! WE NEED TO FIGHT BACK!

THIS MARCH ONWARDS UNTIL SUMMER.

438991 ▶▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to FedupofLies, 8, #277 of 1400 🔗

The false opposition is huge. Julia Hartley Brewer, Peter Hitchens and anyone willing to take the vaccine who knows the solution is based on the lie is false opposition. First they win over the sceptics and then lead them down the same path as everyone else. Either ways we all get vaxxed or get axed from society.

439043 ▶▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to FedupofLies, 12, #278 of 1400 🔗

There need to be an EASTER UPRISING, and as much time as possible spent outdoors, mask free, breaking these inhuman rules in the interim. Million in parks and beaches for hours, picnics, football, cricket etc. Stretch the police force to the limit.
And stuff the BoJo roadmap to serfdom along with the gene therapy.

439536 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 5, #279 of 1400 🔗

I am more angry that Hitchens has basically said how it is all over and people should give up.

He says that as the pot of rebellion is readching boiling point.

Just because his kind of religious social conservatism probably isnn’t coming back.

438489 Ed Phillips, replying to Ed Phillips, 28, #280 of 1400 🔗

Just watched the first ten minutes of South Dakota governor Kristi Noem’s speech to the CPAC conference.

Obviously it’s tailored to a sympathetic audience but in the opening segment she details all the things she did in response to the ‘pandemic’.

Yet more evidence that what has been done to us is a crime of historic proportions.

I am not ashamed to admit that I was pretty overwhelmed with emotion at the thought of what we lost in this country when tyranny took hold.

https://youtu.be/lep70dcxrYA

438510 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Ed Phillips, 16, #281 of 1400 🔗

Thanks for that, should be compulsory viewing for every member of SAGE, the government, Public Health England Scotland and Wales; every MSM editor, Police Commissioners and leaders of local authorities.

One quote
‘Dr Fauci told me that on the worst day I would have 10,000 (covids) in hospitals.
On the worst day there were 600.’

438610 ▶▶ sophie123, replying to Ed Phillips, 9, #282 of 1400 🔗

She should run in 2024

438741 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to Ed Phillips, 4, #283 of 1400 🔗

She also looks like Linda Carter i.e. Wonder Woman. Funny that

438804 ▶▶ Fear is Finite, replying to Ed Phillips, 10, #284 of 1400 🔗

Incredible. Should be sent to every UK MP who dares to call themselves Conservative. Towards the end she says (of the Democrats) they want to be our shepherds, but that requires us to be their sheep. We will not be sheep!

438910 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Ed Phillips, 18, #285 of 1400 🔗

Watched the whole thing last night what a girl. Everything a politician should be. A business person who understands what its like to have to earn a living. Someone who listens to a range of scientific opinion before making an informed decision. A great leader in her community and brave. Why this is not the first article ATL shows how out of touch LS has become.

If we had leaders like Kristi this bullshit would be all over now. But instead we get clueless fat pig dictators who are privileged career politicians and never done a proper days work in their life. Look at them all gove, handjob, the chuckle brothers, grant slaps and Dishi. Kristi could hog tie the entire lot of them in five minutes flat. A great woman.

438492 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 52, #286 of 1400 🔗

My son told me yesterday that the 75 year old man at his farm, where he works, has died of a heart attack, 3 days after his Covid jab. This is happening to lots of people and being seen as a coincidence.

438556 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Liberty, 12, #287 of 1400 🔗

He will be counted as Covid dead. Count on it.

438567 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to FerdIII, 6, #288 of 1400 🔗

Wouldnt put it past them to do so. They’d regard a Royal death from Covid (apparently…) as a huge shroud to wave.

438595 ▶▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to ElizaP, 9, #289 of 1400 🔗

Ambulance drivers are saying car dead are being assigned to covid, post mortem ‘testing’…..

438574 ▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to FerdIII, 11, #290 of 1400 🔗

As I understand it, anyone who stays in hospital gets frequent testing for Covid. The longer you stay in the more likely you are to get a positive result false or otherwise.

438594 ▶▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Liberty, 2, #291 of 1400 🔗

Yes and the fake positives will continue, you need to ask what the cycles are they use for testing, above 35, always a positive, and keep in mind the original PCR technology was to develop DNA, it had nothing to do with identifying Covid….

438559 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Liberty, 12, #292 of 1400 🔗

Makes you wonder what is going on with Prince Philip? Do we know which of the Covid potions he was done with?

438588 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #293 of 1400 🔗

Have no idea but the longer he stays in hospital lends credence to those rumours that he’s developed side effects possibly of the nasty kind from his jab.

438629 ▶▶ fiery, replying to Liberty, 7, #294 of 1400 🔗

In terms of anyone aged 60+ any deaths or life changing side effects will simply be put down to age or undiagnosed, underlying conditions.

438654 ▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to fiery, 5, #295 of 1400 🔗

I wonder if younger people will suffer side effects or death from the jabs? If so it will be much harder to explain those away.

438700 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Liberty, 5, #296 of 1400 🔗

Bell’s Palsy, nacroplepsy and interfility at the bare minimum is what I suspect most younger people will have as side effects.

438715 ▶▶▶▶▶ fiery, replying to Bart Simpson, 2, #297 of 1400 🔗

The medical establishment will dismiss Bell’s Palsy as a temporary side effect even though it can last for a few months and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s permanent in a minority of people. The usual mantra of the benefits outweighed the risks will be peddled though.

438858 ▶▶▶▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to Bart Simpson, 6, #298 of 1400 🔗

This scares the bejeezus out of me. Daughter wants to go into medical profession, has declined vax so far but I dare say will come under increasing pressure.

438905 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Liberty, 3, #299 of 1400 🔗

This is a useful, albeit not comprehensive, summary of worldwide reported post-vaccine adverse reactions.

https://hpv-vaccine-side-effects.com/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-world-map/

439048 ▶▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Liberty, 3, #300 of 1400 🔗

And what of their future offspring?

438994 ▶▶ Chicot, replying to Liberty, 6, #301 of 1400 🔗

This may be why. Apparently, the spike protein which all the vaccines trick our body into producing may, by itself, cause pulmonary hypertension. So, we have ADE and this. God only knows what other potential long-term health problems may also be caused by these rushed vaccines.

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/1/36/htm

438507 Van Allen, replying to Van Allen, 13, #302 of 1400 🔗

From ATL We cannot escape the fact that lifting lockdown will result in more cases, more hospitalisations and sadly more deaths,” said Boris.
But this is against all of the evidence which shows Lockdown stringency does not reduce the death rate. So Boris is obviously expecting an increase in the death numbers from next month? Why? On another matter, when are the 2nd jabs for the elderly and vulnerable starting, in earnest?

438514 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Van Allen, 15, #303 of 1400 🔗

They need to vaccinate the populace as quickly as possible in order to introduce the vaxx passport. The new goal post is the vaxx passport.
1.Save NHS
2.Lockdowns
3.Get the Vaxx
4.Vaxx Passport

438555 ▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to TheClone, 3, #304 of 1400 🔗

and count the dead from experimental-drug (it is not a vaxx) as Covid. Pace Doris’ declaration that going outside to a park will result in millions dead etc

438554 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Van Allen, 2, #305 of 1400 🔗

Our 70+ aged neighbours have had 2 already. So they are being deployed.

439421 ▶▶▶ Van Allen, replying to FerdIII, #306 of 1400 🔗

Lucky them (not!) but I think most of them are scheduled from end of March onwards…

438573 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Van Allen, 6, #307 of 1400 🔗

My Granny gets her 2nd dose beginning of April. If there is a surge in deaths over the coming months it’s has to be the vaccine but they will blame schools or easement of restrictions. I live in hope it wont happen

438619 ▶▶▶ doug, replying to Ganjan21, 9, #308 of 1400 🔗

The massive spike in deaths from the Vax has already happened.
The entire Dec/jan spike were all the over 70s who died after the Jab

https://www.ukmedfreedom.org/resources/open-letters
Read the 4th letter down Re the open letter on the vaxx

438649 ▶▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to doug, 1, #309 of 1400 🔗

The U.K. vs Sweden chart in that letter is for me the most compelling evidence. I can’t work out how to copy it here, but it’s very striking.

438908 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to doug, #310 of 1400 🔗

But that was largely following the first jab. By all accounts the real impact is more likely to be seen after the second jab….and subsequently when a new coronavirus, however mild or routine, does the rounds.

438526 doug, replying to doug, 6, #311 of 1400 🔗

Is it too late to change this website name to
http://Www.Used to write proper sceptical articles but now need to write toned down repeaters of main stream articles As I caved in to pressure and want to keep getting paid by other news papers.org”

I think it is as snappy a title.

438551 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to doug, 8, #312 of 1400 🔗

LDS supports the experimental drugs which it names a ‘vaxx’. mRNA is not a vaxx. There is very little here about the dead and injured from said mRNA drugs. They do recommend personal choice as to ingestion of the drug. But that is very naive. Once you admit that an untested experimental drug is a ‘way out of this’, you of course will have the CV Fascists coercing your ingestion. Slippery slope it is called.

438582 ▶▶▶ Thomasina, replying to FerdIII, 11, #313 of 1400 🔗

I find many lockdown sceptics including, I think ALL of the TalkRadio (maybe Kevin O Sullivan is an exception) hosts are pro ‘experimental’ treatments. Even Peter Hitchins is pro ‘experimental’ treatment. I find it astonishing and a shame that they continually bang on about all the tests these drugs have gone though which makes them ‘safe’. Yet no-one mentions that they havnt undergone medium/long term tests, and they maybe a ticking time bomb. The roll out here continues unabated with no questions being asked at all and no-one in MSM daring to bring in potential medium/long term issues. Everyone is just signing up to this National Experiment – informed consent – uuuummm, very few of us appear to be actually informed.

438591 ▶▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Thomasina, 16, #314 of 1400 🔗

Group think, fear mongering, ignorance. Sad isn’t it? Lobotomies and Thalidomide were settled ‘science’ as well. Eradicating DDT in Africa ‘settled science’ which resulted in millions of dead women and children from malaria. In the 1970s the ice age was ‘settled science’, now of course it is warmtarding or changetarding.

Why did Germany turn to Fascism in the 1930s? Just look around you. It takes about 1 week to turn a poly-polity into a totalitarianism. Nazis and Communists also had their settled science……

Experimental drugs are not vaccines. Anyone who calls the mRNA experiment a vaccine is just ignorant. That is all you can say about it.

439305 ▶▶▶▶ charleyfarley, replying to Thomasina, 4, #315 of 1400 🔗

I think informed consent is impossible for the vast majority of people.

You cannot coerce people into the jab using a fear campaign backed up by psy-ops and then say they gave “informed consent”.

438674 ▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to FerdIII, 16, #316 of 1400 🔗

What’s funnier is that David Icke said that vaccines and tracking were the goal over a year ago but he was a conspiracy nut apparently.

And yet here we have LDS being pro-vaccine and acting like it’s the magic elixir.

438535 doug, replying to doug, 19, #317 of 1400 🔗

Scotland has reportedONLY 149 deaths from Covid in a year.

A freedom of information request obtained the data.

The rest fake news. Who would have thought it.

Same as the CDC in America reported 95% of all deaths there were from something else but the hospitals had been paid 25% bonus to put the Vid on the death certificate.
See the TV news report video here
https://t.me/worlddoctorsalliance/1826

The whole thing is one gargantuan scam.

438546 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to doug, 14, #318 of 1400 🔗

Same in England. They started moving flu-pneum-resp dead into Covid in Feb 2020, accelerated that in April and by the Fall, presto, Flu was down to nothing. I also noticed a similar but less obvious effect on heart disease dead and even dementia. You can go back 5-10 yrs and do statistical analysis on the dead categories and you will see the same in Scotland.

The MCCD process allowed the NHS to assign covid to pretty much anything (using the fake pcr tests as an excuse in some cases only, in other cases, covid was assigned with no medical proof).

438607 ▶▶▶ doug, replying to FerdIII, 8, #319 of 1400 🔗

Hi Ferd,

Yes I know. The whole thing is just statistical BS.
I even gave Toby Young a “donation” last April because he wrote some good stuff. Now its just fluff.

He needs to feed his family so like Talk Radio toned it down in response to pressure of loosing his jobs.

I pulled the ONS data for myself and even for over 75’s there was zero excess deaths between May and Dec until they rolled out the Jab.

At which point a massive spike of 100% correlated to increase in Jabs.

Watch the video I linked to above. USA news finally reporting on it.

For some real info get the telegram App and follow the “world doctors alliance” group

438785 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to doug, 3, #320 of 1400 🔗

Note:: Bill Gates has bought Telegram ($600m, petty cash)

438613 ▶▶▶ doug, replying to FerdIII, 7, #321 of 1400 🔗

You might have seen this

https://www.ukmedfreedom.org/resources/open-letters

3rd down. A letter from doctors linking the jab to massive spike in deaths.

438651 ▶▶▶▶ Ossettian, replying to doug, 4, #322 of 1400 🔗

4th down when I just looked

438568 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to doug, 3, #323 of 1400 🔗

Northern Ireland only 113

438572 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to doug, 3, #324 of 1400 🔗

Making it a notifiable disease last March and the income from each notification was the start

438611 ▶▶ Custerhaditcoming, replying to doug, 12, #325 of 1400 🔗

The figures indicate one thing and one thing only…THE NHS IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE!!
Just when are we going to see and hear from the doctors, nurses etc in the NHS who really know what is going on. Your silence is deafening. If you want to keep your beloved NHS then you must speak out and soon, and shout it from the roof tops. Don’t leave the government anywhere to hide.
The reason I can say this is that I have a number of my family who held senior positions within the NHS and have told me there is much disquiet over the handling of this debacle which will affect the population for decades.

438783 ▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to doug, 2, #326 of 1400 🔗

Doug, have you sent this to the Daily Mail? Now might be the time that this gets some attention!

439525 ▶▶▶ doug, replying to Redundant Pilot, #327 of 1400 🔗

To be honest no.
This data or similar has been available since last spring. About June the times published an article saying 95% had multiple Co morbidity and of those 2/3 were actually physical disabled due to their health conditions.

Then when the NHS closed in spring they all died from lack of medical care, not the Vid.

It’s been obvious since the start and the media have been shut down and complicit all along.

It’s game over. We lost

438540 FerdIII, 31, #328 of 1400 🔗

ATL analysis of Fascist Fergutard and the tyranny of fake models. I work in IT, it would take myself and a small team no more than 2 days to completely demolish this clown’s ‘models’, logic or lack of it, lack of schemas, find forced calculations etc etc.

What is a travesty is that a country of 70 mn base policy on garbage data, and these morons won’t release the entire code set, application or database access….how is that for ‘science’? What, afraid that we will uncover the fraud?

This alone needs to result in prison terms.

‘NHS beds per capita might be nearer to those of Sweden and Belarus, who never feared their health systems being overwhelmed. Ferguson suggests a novel pandemic was the Government’s number one priority risk, yet neither the current nor the previous Governments ensured there were enough ICU beds to handle a pandemic on the scale of the 1918 flu.’

Apposite point.

We have many inquiries to initiate. Data fraud including fraudulent dead counts amongst them, but the NHS also must be reformed. 2 beds per 1000 vs 12 in Belarus or Sweden, against a mammoth budget of £140 bn. This is criminal. Instead of diverstiy officers, climate change idiots and dancing nurses, where is the investment in health infra – the beds, the machines, the bloody access in a timely manner. I paid near to £15 K in taxes every year to the NHS. I demand some value for money.

NHS is not fit for purpose.

Data fraud aside.

438544 karenovirus, replying to karenovirus, 2, #329 of 1400 🔗

I don’t have the slightest time for lardy Pieres Morgan but I did enjoy the first minute of this Good Morning YouTube.

In it he gives Hancock a good kicking about unlawfull PPE contracts and his refusal to apologise.
Hancock tries and fails to shout over Morgan like a small boy arguing with teacher.

The rest of the vid is just about how terrible the Pandemic is.

438646 ▶▶ Wolver, replying to karenovirus, 9, #330 of 1400 🔗

As much as I agree, that its good to see these people get an earful, this behaviour does nothing but degrade our public debate. It normalises shouting and name calling as a valid method to win a debate. If you can’t beat them on the facts, just shout loader and name call. How many times have sceptics been called ‘deniers’, ‘covidiots’, ‘anti-vaxers’, this is where this behaviour comes from. Better to not engage and give it legitimacy.

438569 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 19, #331 of 1400 🔗

The coercion continues, Blair, with his maniacal grin, being vaccinated, the Royals jumping into the the political arena to ‘persuade’ us, now even Peter Hitchens, sorrowfully declaring he had no choice.

438578 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to DanClarke, 16, #332 of 1400 🔗

QE II was quiet on Brexit, the most imporant and necessary political event in since 1973.

Yet she and the parasites jump into CV 19 and the experimental drug ingestion…..pathetic.

As useless as the High Courts in this country.

438585 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to FerdIII, 8, #333 of 1400 🔗

And the Duke is still in hospital…

438604 ▶▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to DanClarke, 17, #334 of 1400 🔗

Nothing to do with his jab QE II will tell us….

….last week we had a Catholic priest almost scream with rage during his homily against ‘disinformation against the vaxx on social media’, he called it the work of the devil. Good Christ. My first reaction was to get up during the homily and beat the living shit out of the idiot. Then I decided that might cause a ruckus, so I talked over him to the people around me, highlighting this idiot’s ignorance and lack of knowledge.

But that is what we are up against. The entire fucking establishment including the Church is in on it.

438608 ▶▶▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to FerdIII, 3, #335 of 1400 🔗

There is no rational discussion from any of them, despite the reams of obvious contradictions.

438685 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to FerdIII, 11, #336 of 1400 🔗

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;

Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

Thanks to all here for helping me keep the faith!

438939 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to FerdIII, 7, #337 of 1400 🔗

The Church has espoused the dictrines of Antichrist. All the churches have
Listen to the Irreverend podcast. They give this vicious betrayal both barrels.

438730 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to DanClarke, 6, #338 of 1400 🔗

even Peter Hitchens, sorrowfully declaring he had no choice.

Pathetic!

You always have a choice.

438575 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 59, #339 of 1400 🔗

mRNA is not a fucking Vaccination so stop calling it that. It is an experimental drug whose trials end in 2023. Do the Fake News and Sheeple know this? The trials have not ended and there were never trials done on animals, which every other ‘vaxx’ went through…why?

Classen’s study establishes the potential for the messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines developed by Pfizer and Moderna to activate human proteins to take on “pathologic configurations” — configurations associated with chronic degenerative neurological diseases. Although his specific interest is in prion diseases (conditions associated with misfolded versions of normal proteins), Classen also outlines a handful of other mechanisms whereby RNA-based vaccines could give rise to “multiple other potential fatal adverse events.”

If clowns like Peter Hitchens and your neighbour want to imbibe the drug feel free. If you want to smoke marijuana, snort coke, inject heroin while watching your porn, go right ahead. Don’t ask me to participate.

My body, my choice, my rights.
Anyone who disagrees – Fuck Off.

438630 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to FerdIII, 13, #340 of 1400 🔗

Clowns like Peter Hitchens, profess their Christian faith, but then allow themselves to be injected, with aborted foetal cells, whilst harping on about the immorality of abortion or drug taking.

438661 ▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to FerdIII, 4, #341 of 1400 🔗

Spot on. I keep on pulling people up on the term vaccine in conversations.

438726 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to FerdIII, 8, #342 of 1400 🔗

Great post.

The Peter Hitchens thing is strange – there is currently no requirement to have the vaccine to be able to travel, as such there is no rush to get the vaccine. If it becomes a requirement then Hitchens could have easily get the vaccine then.

What about people that for health reasons can’t have the vaccine? They will be coerced, discriminated etc because of people like Hitchens, the Queen, Prince William and Catherine that are suddenly poster ‘boys’ for an experimental jab with serious side effects. Very DISAPPOINTING!!

438597 Bart Simpson, 24, #343 of 1400 🔗

Walthamstow Wetlands and Canal yesterday. As it was nice weather, loads of people out and about. There were some muzzles but no-one was social distancing.

I think many people have had enough especially after we were promised that once the “vulnerable” have been vaccinated, that was it. Instead they’ve moved the goalposts yet again while the fallout from the lockdown continues unabated and the lies continue thick and fast.

TPTB must realise that more people are waking up hence they have to wheel out the royals to get more people to take the vaccine up. It’s desperation and perhaps we are nearing a Ceaucescu moment.

438621 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 6, #344 of 1400 🔗

As not everyone has a phone would it be a good idea to stamp a barcode on the forehead of the jabbed to make it so much easier, even if you did have a phone there will be times you’ll forget to take it with you and can’t get in anywhere

438623 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to DanClarke, 8, #345 of 1400 🔗

For those who don’t want the experimental drug, we can tattoo a yellow star to our foreheads. Saves fabric and threading.

438628 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to FerdIII, 8, #346 of 1400 🔗

I’ve actually, presented this as a serious concept to my jab obsessed relatives and friends who are horrified, even when you put the idea that it would save them having to think about their phones etc, so far there are limits to their obsession

438702 ▶▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to FerdIII, 11, #347 of 1400 🔗

actually I’d put a numbered tattoo on the forehead of those who have had the vaxx as they are the ones who have submitted to the regime of slavery and unknown consequences. They could display it as their badge of honour / self righteousness as they frequently seem keen on displaying.

438705 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to penelope pitstop, 4, #348 of 1400 🔗

Plus they can add that to their Arsebook profile to further ramp up their virtue signalling.

438825 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to penelope pitstop, 2, #349 of 1400 🔗

The lower the number the higher the status! Margaret Keenan kicks it off as Number 1 with the Bard at Number 2. Even the four and five figure folk will be feted at parties and envied by all until their vaccine injury carries them off.

438703 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to FerdIII, 2, #350 of 1400 🔗

Good idea. I will mention this if anyone at my work brings up the jab. It will be interesting to see what their reaction is.

438665 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to DanClarke, 7, #351 of 1400 🔗

How about your right hand or if you are unfortunate to not have one your forehead.
That will be the next step when we have accepted the health passport.
Too easy to forge and not everyone has a smart phone.
Don’t worry Bill Gates has already thought of that.An embedded tattoo with your vaccine history that you just scan to enter.
Why did you think they were pushing those ridiculous temperature scanners.
Predictive programming of the population.

438668 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to jonathan Palmer, 4, #352 of 1400 🔗

they dont seem keen on that idea on DM despite being all over the jab

438687 ▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to DanClarke, 6, #353 of 1400 🔗

Once you accept the health passport it’s the logical endgame.

438626 JIGR1969, replying to JIGR1969, 2, #354 of 1400 🔗

A quick question that someone on here may be able to answer.

Where did the number 6 come from? I mean in relation to meeting outdoors and eventually indoors etc.

Is there a scientific reason why it is 6, as opposed to 8, or 5 or even 7. Or is it as I think, an arbitrary number, one that politicians think is a good number such that too many people don’t get together but large enough to prevent people gathering in larger numbers in defiance?

438632 ▶▶ Custerhaditcoming, replying to JIGR1969, 12, #355 of 1400 🔗

There is no scientific reason for any of this s#*tshow end of.
Sun is cracking the flags here so I’m off out for a good long walk/bike ride to share the same airspace as everybody else, and maybe stop for a coffee and cake.

438643 ▶▶ TC, replying to JIGR1969, 5, #356 of 1400 🔗

The Prisoner?
The old TV show.
The Government and it’s “scientists” being ironic or as we say “taking the ****.

438647 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to JIGR1969, 2, #357 of 1400 🔗

the only science in it is that a ‘scientist’ said it

438652 ▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to JIGR1969, 1, #358 of 1400 🔗

It is a nice friendly number.

438659 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to JIGR1969, 7, #359 of 1400 🔗

The short answer is they just made it up.There was a debate in cabinet over whether it should be 6 or 8.There is no scientific rationale behind it.I think even Whitty admitted that.

438706 ▶▶ Happy in the haze, replying to JIGR1969, 2, #360 of 1400 🔗

The shortest number of letters of anything more then ‘two’.

I’m making that reason up but it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s all there is to it.

438716 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to JIGR1969, 11, #361 of 1400 🔗

Spookily if you take the number of letters in “corona” (6) and add up their relative position in the alphabet (66) you get the “666” mark of the devil. Coincidental but darn spooky!

C = 3
O = 15
R = 18
O = 15
N = 14
A = 1
———-
6 66

438739 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to JIGR1969, 1, #362 of 1400 🔗

In some occult rituals, 6 masked people stand 6′ apart around a hexagram.

438742 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to JIGR1969, 3, #363 of 1400 🔗

666, ‘6 feet under’….all a game to them, as I said yesterday, ritual humiliation

438801 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to JIGR1969, 1, #364 of 1400 🔗

It is the smallest number possessing two different factors. Simples.

438833 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to JIGR1969, 1, #365 of 1400 🔗

Nuclear family plus Granny and Grandad probably. I don’t know what the .4 kid does though (locked away in the attic like a Mad Wife?)

438936 ▶▶ Annie, replying to JIGR1969, 5, #366 of 1400 🔗

Because The Science can only count up to six. Anything higher than that is scientifically proven to constitute A Lot.

438981 ▶▶ stevie, replying to JIGR1969, #367 of 1400 🔗

Wasn’t rule of six used for picketing in the Industrial Relations legislation?

438985 ▶▶ stevie, replying to JIGR1969, 1, #368 of 1400 🔗

Is it because it takes six burly brave police officers (heroes?) to arrest little old ladies who protest too much?

438631 Alexander Waugh, 16, #369 of 1400 🔗

Police claim to be using the ‘Four Es’ to deal with members of the public who are out enjoying the sunshine – Engaging, Explaining, Encouraging and Enforcing – but for those on the receiving end their policy will be experienced as four correlated Bs – Badgering, Boring, Bossing and Bullying.

438633 Cecil B, 10, #370 of 1400 🔗

Now is the winter of our discontent

Not made glorious summer by this steaming pile of pork

438638 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 13, #371 of 1400 🔗

Daily Mail: Almost a QUARTER of London’s frontline healthcare workers have failed to accept the Covid jab.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9307731/Almost-QUARTER-Londons-frontline-healthcare-workers-failed-accept-Covid-jab.html

438653 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Tom Blackburn, 10, #372 of 1400 🔗

I would rather take their caution than that of our increasingly Goebbels like Royal Family;
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9306609/Prince-William-warns-against-rumours-misinformation-Covid-19-vaccines-social-media.html?ito=push-notification&ci=85646&si=25332643
What on earth do Prince William and his wife know about vaccine technology so that they can reassure us it is safe? On twitter; lock-down zealots have often sarcastically referred to me as a sort of jumped up virus expert! Well I turn this round on the Royal Family, they have no knowledge of or background in vaccines, and I doubt they know much about the technology around these current potions.

Indeed they might do better probing around the circumstances of their Grand-dads mystery illness that seemed to occur just after his ‘Covid jab.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9308893/Prince-Philip-99-spends-13th-day-hospital-longest-stay.html?ito=push-notification&ci=85670&si=25332643

438679 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Steve Martindale, 3, #373 of 1400 🔗

The Duke is still in hospital ……

438690 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to DanClarke, 9, #374 of 1400 🔗

Is he still alive? Maybe they’re keeping him on ice until 28 days after his vaccination have run out before announcing his death.

438697 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Anti_socialist, 8, #375 of 1400 🔗

Being looked after by the same actor , sorry, nurse, that looked after Johnson last year.

438709 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Steve Martindale, 3, #376 of 1400 🔗

You can bet that he’s never have the vaccine so why is he pushing it on us ordinary folk?

The Pig Dictator and his Sage minions are getting even more desperate. HM’s intervention I suspect didn’t go down well.

438940 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #377 of 1400 🔗

Yep. It never ceases to amaze me that when anti-lockdowners or “anti-vaxxers” (as ‘they’ like to call us) cite medical or scientific evidence for our views, the reaction is to sarcastically ask when we got our medical degrees, yet we are supposed to agree with their simplistic and unresearched position based on some clown on TV telling them to believe a non-fact based declaration.

It was interesting that on the recent BBC Panorama programme on ‘vaccine disinformation on social media’ reporter Marianna Spring actually said that the skill of those peddling disinformation is to appear incredibly plausible. Smacks of desperation. So logically she must be saying that the BBC should be believed because they are less plausible. Interesting concept.

439725 ▶▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Dodderydude, #378 of 1400 🔗

I always say I have the same medical degree as bill gates…namely…none

438642 BJs Brain is Missing, 13, #379 of 1400 🔗

Well, I enjoyed myself yesterday in the sun. And as it is sunny once more, I’ll do the same again today.

438648 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #380 of 1400 🔗

Bet you thought no one did propaganda better than the BBC, think again Doctor who has verified hundreds of Covid deaths on what he tells people who say they DON’T want vaccine that’s right the headline was written by a dyslexic infant, but wait till you see the article!

438660 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 11, #381 of 1400 🔗

I was wrong the daily fail has gone one better The coronavirus jab’s most tantalising side effects? It may help fight cancer, chronic pain… and even Alzheimer’s Oh Jesus Christ, I hope & pray Covid-19 takes me away from this crazy planet.

438667 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Anti_socialist, 20, #382 of 1400 🔗

Looks like DM readers mostly aren’t buying it though!

Best rated readers comment on the article

‘You need help if you’re still going along with all of this. End of.’

704 upticks 226 downticks

438678 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #383 of 1400 🔗

Dont knock it, its got a 72 year old thinking of returning to work after many years away

438680 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Anti_socialist, 4, #384 of 1400 🔗

Read the comments to revive your sanity.They are brilliant.

438698 ▶▶▶ Steeve, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #385 of 1400 🔗

Alzheimer’s? I can do a real life observational study on this with a family member. Will let you know in 6 months.

438916 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #386 of 1400 🔗

“You might not believe this, little fella, but it’ll cure your asthma too!” – Frank Zappa, Cosmik Debris.

438663 ▶▶ mj, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #387 of 1400 🔗

Paid to lie about covid deaths .. paid to inject people with a “vaxxine” . nice little earner

438673 ▶▶ Hoppy Uniatz, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #388 of 1400 🔗

Did anybody else read this as “Dr Who has verified hundreds of Covid deaths,” and think “Blimey the BBC has hit a new low, the next thing Jodie Whittaker will be urging people to get a vaccine.”

438935 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, #389 of 1400 🔗

“You will be vaccinated … you will be vaccinated…”

438795 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #390 of 1400 🔗

They are in dire need of a proofreader.

438656 Londo Mollari, 4, #391 of 1400 🔗

The totally incompetent Welsh eukayshun secretary (Krusty Williams) says it’s lockdown again in the autumn. But she’s OK – when she leaves her post she has a job lined up at one of the Welsh universities – just like her two predecessors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1KZBrW6mlQUnaCLj1Y4iUdaKBndIcw1RP8qi5LA8mxMuOgymXWvW9d5Ys&v=Kce5nLz5ErQ&feature=youtu.be

438657 BeBopRockSteady, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #392 of 1400 🔗

The LA schools video is a troll

Sacn the QR code

438664 ▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 1, #393 of 1400 🔗

What happens? I have no way of doing that.

438723 ▶▶ Mic67, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #394 of 1400 🔗

Yes dying to know?!

438844 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Mic67, 1, #395 of 1400 🔗

QR code
Ha it opens up Rick Astley doing Never Gonna Give You up!

438877 ▶▶▶▶ Mic67, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #396 of 1400 🔗

hahahahahaha!

438671 ▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to Anti_socialist, 15, #398 of 1400 🔗

Failed to succumb to government propaganda more like. Yes it’s shocking that 75% have.

438677 ▶▶▶ Apache, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 7, #399 of 1400 🔗

Lower down that article there is a piece about care staff employers who want a no jab no job policy. I assume that this isn’t just virtue signalling and based on good evidence that having the jab prevents transmission and therefore protects the cared for. So it then follows that masks would no longer be necessary when in supermarkets as the jabbed cannot transmit Covid Sar2 no?

438675 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 43, #400 of 1400 🔗

I don’t consent to their vaccines, their tests, their masks or their stupid rules. My family and I will not be guinea pigs in this global psychological and biological experiment. We will live as free people as much as possible. We will hug, smile and not comply with tests, vaccines or passports. If anyone wants to truly be free and shake off the shackles of this regime they need to do the same. Stop complying and this stops. You have the power to make this happen. Have courage and stop following the crowd. Do the right thing, you know this is crazy. Stop listening to the MSM and listen to your soul. In the core of our being we know this is wrong. Don’t give in to fear or you will be caught in its clutches. Hold onto your humanity or you will lose it.

438686 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Liberty, 6, #401 of 1400 🔗

Well said, Liberty. Unfortunately, there are many who still cling to the belief that the government and our health service have their good at heart. To believe anything contrary to that they wouldn’t be able to accept, or even to consider. Even when they don’t like what’s happening to them, they still seem to think the government is basically benevolent.

438695 ▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to Banjones, 14, #402 of 1400 🔗

It’s been too long since we had a tyrannical leader in charge. People thought the holocaust could never happen again. People thought we had evolved into a better society. They were fooled. We are human and we are sinful and without God we are lost. People have forgotten God and with it they have lost their moral compass. With no moral absolutes there is free reign for doing evil if there is a belief that it is for the greater good. The only answer lies in faith, truth and hope and there is only One who has all three.

438711 ▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Liberty, 7, #403 of 1400 🔗

Many of President Trump’s speeches contained similar words about going with God. Messages of truth that even the godless could understand and abide by.

WE need a leader with the good of the people at heart, and a moral compass, rather than this one who is at best self-serving, arrogant, ignorant and patronising and at worst in thrall to those who would destroy our precious country for their own ends.

438721 ▶▶▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to Banjones, 1, #404 of 1400 🔗

To go with God in name only is false and fruitless. The God of the Bible hates all these lies, loves above all, is servant hearted, humble, wise and without any malice. A person following after him will lead us well, I fear we will find none.

438933 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Liberty, 3, #405 of 1400 🔗

Right with you Liberty.
We will have faith, truth and hope because we follow the one who Is all three.

438996 ▶▶▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to Annie, 2, #406 of 1400 🔗

Amen

438777 ▶▶▶ richardw53, replying to Banjones, 2, #407 of 1400 🔗

It is often said that the best leaders are reluctant leaders. We need to find a way of replacing competition in democracy with representation.

438714 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Liberty, 4, #408 of 1400 🔗

Great post. Yes looking after your and your family’s health and mental health is the way to go.

Anyone that panics and submits to these experimental vaccines could suffer adverse effects including death – it doesn’t just happen to other people, it could be you.

However once these vaccines are no longer experimental and people feel that they were able to make an informed decision to get the vaccine, then do it. There is no reason to rush!

438682 Awkward Git, 3, #409 of 1400 🔗

A video by someone who says she is a nurse speaking out in the US:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GnqA29uUsuQm/

438684 Biker, replying to Biker, 7, #410 of 1400 🔗

All the jokes and shitty comments aside i just want to race my Motocross bike again. There is no racing today but we’re off out on the trails so it’s gonna be great anyway.

438692 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Biker, 3, #411 of 1400 🔗

There’s a lot to be said for solo sport at the moment. I’d feel a bit of a prat standing alone on a tennis court. Perhaps I should invest in a ball machine!

438704 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Banjones, 1, #412 of 1400 🔗

Various places I go that have concrete areas with large walls and no windows, people are playing tennis either solo or in groups against said walls

A ball machine won’t help much as you’d need a court, which is an outdoor sports facility that must close at present, whereas concrete areas or grass that people exercise on are not classified as outdoor sports facilities

438724 ▶▶ Ganjan21, replying to Biker, 1, #413 of 1400 🔗

Enjoy biker,might get my wee Yamaha on the road today myself.

438928 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Biker, #414 of 1400 🔗

Have fun, Biker.

438689 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 21, #415 of 1400 🔗

BBC

Breaking News

The government announces Pinky and Perky to urge people to take the vaccine

A spokesperson said “We are pleased to announce we have signed up childhood heroes Pinky and Perky to our very successful vaccine media campaign

Our focus groups suggest a slight lack of traction in the under 30’s cohort so Pinky and Perky will add credibility to this very important message

Under the strapline ‘Jab the Flab’ the baconettes are estimated to earn approximate £40m pounds

The current owners of the pink pair is Brian a pub landlord from Essex.

Brian who has never met let alone even talked to Matt Hancock added

‘It is not about the money, we all just want to play our part. We offered to do it for free, but now we have the money it will come in handy’

Further information is available on our website http://www.newidentityinargentina . gov.uk

438693 ▶▶ iane, replying to Cecil B, 5, #416 of 1400 🔗

Meanwhile, I wonder if Prince Philip is in hospital due to adverse reactions to the jab – and how depressing to see that Hitchens has become a collaborator!

438710 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to iane, 1, #417 of 1400 🔗

Or a captive, until the RF have all issued ‘statements’

438857 ▶▶▶ mikec, replying to iane, 2, #418 of 1400 🔗

Do you think he’s still alive? They’re putting a couple of weeks between jab and making the announcement.

438699 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Cecil B, 1, #420 of 1400 🔗

The depressing thing is that some people will fall for this patronising guff.

438748 ▶▶ Kat, replying to Cecil B, 1, #421 of 1400 🔗

The only problem with that is that certain ‘communities’ abhor pork.

438927 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Cecil B, 2, #422 of 1400 🔗

Pinky and Perky together would just about make one Scotch egg.

438694 Banjones, 8, #423 of 1400 🔗

New Zealand – just to show they’re not all complacently taking it lying down:

https://voicesforfreedom.co.nz/blog/

438701 Julian, replying to Julian, 13, #424 of 1400 🔗

Slightly off topic

I surmise that most people who post here have a strong belief in truly free speech

There may be people who have a strong belief in truly free speech who are pro-lockdown, but not the converse (anti lockdown people who do not believe in it)

To what extent do people here agree with these statements:
1) There should be no laws regarding what speech is allowed (aside from libel and slander)
2) There should be laws prohibiting organisations from discriminating against people for their expressed views, however “unpleasant” – this includes sacking people, discplining them (as an employer) to removing or censoring posts on social media (tech platforms)

I would answer yes to both, on the basis that without (2) while speech may be technically free, in practice is it not. Gary Lineker posted something on Twitter about this, pushing the view that FOS does exist in the UK. Most agreed with him, but said that they thought speech should be free but not free from consequences. One person said that speech should be free but if what someone said was really awful they should be “investigated”. I don’t think they really quite grasp what free speech is.

438713 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Julian, 5, #425 of 1400 🔗

I don’t think they really quite grasp what free speech is.

It’s incredible the number of people who don’t! & It seems to be growing by the day.

438719 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Julian, 5, #426 of 1400 🔗

Anyone who says, “I believe in free speech but…” doesn’t.

438729 ▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to Julian, 3, #427 of 1400 🔗

Free speech includes the right to offend.

438732 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Julian, 3, #428 of 1400 🔗

1) There should be no laws regarding what speech is allowed (aside from libel and slander)

Speech should not be prohibited unless it amounts to direct incitement of immediate criminal action or is intended to produce real immediate harm by deception. Libel and slander should not be prohibited – they are addressed by civil procedures (though that n itself is a complex issue).

Lineker of course is an idiot, and a dangerously authoritarian and establishment-worshipping one. We have freedom of speech because the default position is that speech is free in almost all areas. The government has to make laws prohibiting it. To the extent it does so, thus far we lose the existing freedom. Recently there have been significant losses of freedom in this regard, more than wiping out some previous gains.

2) There should be laws prohibiting organisations from discriminating against people for their expressed views, however “unpleasant” – this includes sacking people, discplining them (as an employer) to removing or censoring posts on social media (tech platforms)

This is a complex one. State bodies, monopolies and vital service providers (including eg banking) should be prohibited from any kind of discrimination, unless they can demonstrate some real, specific need. Other bodies should be free to discriminate as they wish, provided this is genuinely even-handed. Atm, the establishment dogma is to discriminate against “racists” and whites, while prohibiting the reverse. This is causing and will increasingly cause backlash, and rightly so. Increasingly, that dogma is being extended to conservative and traditionalist positions.

For social media, imo they should either be “free speech” platforms, barred from any kind of political censorship (including, obviously, antiracist and other establishment ideological enforcement) and protected fro any consequences of speech in their platform, or they should be “controlled speech” and allowed to censor entirely as thy wish, but held responsible for what they do allow to be published. Then let the market decide, up to a point.

438749 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Mark, 1, #429 of 1400 🔗

I would agree broadly

I think the list of bodies prohibited by law from discrimination should be pretty long, and definitely needs to include the education sector

438754 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Mark, 1, #430 of 1400 🔗

Other bodies should be free to discriminate as they wish

To clarify, this refers to an absence of direct state prohibitions. It doesn’t preclude disputes between individuals and employers for eg unfair dismissal.

438707 Basileus, 7, #431 of 1400 🔗

Tweet from The Light Truthpaper:

COVID has a 0.009% fatality rate for ages 0-59 in the UK with and without pre-existing conditions as of 21st Jan 21 according to the NHS data

4717 Deaths* (21 Jan 21)

*NHS
https:// england.nhs.uk/statistics/sta tistical-work-area/covid-19-daily-deaths/…
NHS Datasheet
http:// tinyurl.com/cb849b94

https://twitter.com/LightTruthpaper/status/1365940342483275776

438712 CrazyHoarse, replying to CrazyHoarse, 25, #432 of 1400 🔗

“Voters say make key workers have the Covid jab”

I’m a key worker and I’ve given up ever voting, but what the absolute bloody hell does it have to do with voting?! So a bunch of bedwetting jackboot kissers want me to be forced to participate in medical experimentation so they are less scared?

438717 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to CrazyHoarse, 18, #433 of 1400 🔗

I really do fail to see why people are so desperate to get ‘the jab’ yet are STILL afraid even after they’ve had it. They seem to have no faith in its protection! It’s just hard to understand why anyone should care whether I personally have been jabbed.

Have you noticed how it’s almost become an accepted greeting now – ”have you had the jab yet?”

438797 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Banjones, 9, #434 of 1400 🔗

Is it not strange that no one every asks, “Have you had your measles vaccination?” Even though measles is highly infectious, just going within fifteen metres of someone infected, or entering a room an infected person was in hours earlier, can be enough to catch the disease. Yet no one seems to be afraid. I wonder why?

438767 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to CrazyHoarse, 9, #435 of 1400 🔗

It’s called manufacturing consent, for mandatory vaccination, to scare people into compliance. We’ve been governed by fear since 9/11.

438807 ▶▶ wendy, replying to CrazyHoarse, 8, #436 of 1400 🔗

It seems to me to be a continuation of the seeing other people as dangerous vectors of disease that the government has created and now those of us who do not have that fear are to be medicated to relieve others of their fear.

Unless it is addressed, and why would the government want to address it, whilst we are fighting each other the attention is not on them, there is going to be mounting pressure on us but there are many valid reasons to resist:

its only got emergency authorisation
its a fairly new technology
there are allergy concerns
is mass vaccination of whole populations a good thing?
issues coming up now about previous natural infections and only needing one dose
not known how long vaccine induced immunity lasts
not known if has impact on spread
not known if any long term health impacts
and many more ….

I think these are enough for anyone with doubts to want a conversation with a knowledgeable professional but this isn’t available currently so we should not be forcing anyone.

438827 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to CrazyHoarse, 2, #437 of 1400 🔗

If they have any leverage over you just lie and say that you have. How can they prove otherwise?

439110 ▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to CrazyHoarse, 3, #438 of 1400 🔗

Guessing the voters are NOT key workers then….

438718 Dorian_Hawkmoon, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 10, #439 of 1400 🔗

“…including the possibility of a new green tax on every internet delivery…”
So one van that goes around and drops off 50 purchases should be taxed as less green than 50 people driving their own cars out to buy them personally? Eh? They seem devoid of sense in every possible field.

438762 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 1, #440 of 1400 🔗

Must be what they meant by saying taxing Amazon! It’s just extortion with menaces.

438889 ▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #441 of 1400 🔗

What’s the betting that the tax won’t apply to Amazon’s amazing, green, electric vans?

I hear the drivers end up taking a long lunch break in order to recharge, so they end up with long working days. Work-life balance, innit.

But what’s not to like? All that excess energy from the windmills being put to good use by Amazon. (Our world-beating wind farms are currently contributing an amazing 3% of our consumption as we march forward into our fantastic future. “Alas”.)

438924 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #442 of 1400 🔗

Shut shops, make it impossible to get anything except online, penalise people for getting stuff online.

438809 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 5, #443 of 1400 🔗

The tax will clobber the small online shopping firms – especially those that had to become inventive when they were prohibited from making a living as they have shops that are ‘non essential’

438989 ▶▶ stevie, replying to Dorian_Hawkmoon, 1, #444 of 1400 🔗

They will just put the tax on the delivery driver especially if he is self employed.

438722 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 39, #445 of 1400 🔗

Good run out on the bikes yesterday around 20 of us, just happened to be passing a park/nature walk and noticed cop car had pulled up in almost full car park,we swung of the road a couple of the Bro’s were carrying tyre valve removal tools out with the valves then back on the bikes. Great to be in the sun,same again today

438779 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 11, #446 of 1400 🔗

I am shocked!

438922 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Basileus, 8, #447 of 1400 🔗

Horrified. Appalled.
Delighted.

438725 The Covid Kid, replying to The Covid Kid, 36, #448 of 1400 🔗

Morning!

438953 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to The Covid Kid, 2, #449 of 1400 🔗

Excellent!
Oink, parrrrpp

438728 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 24, #450 of 1400 🔗

Hitchens, the Queen, Prince William and Catherine are suddenly poster ‘boys’ for an experimental jab with serious side effects including death. Very DISAPPOINTING!!

438733 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Victoria, 8, #451 of 1400 🔗

PH was clear he took it because he is afraid of vaccine passports, not for medical reasons

It’s very disappointing and I think it’s a mistake, but I don’t think it makes him a “poster boy” and you could argue it highlights the bullying that is going on

438750 ▶▶▶ iane, replying to Julian, 13, #452 of 1400 🔗

Quisling Hitchens: saddest thing I’ve seen all week!

438763 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to iane, 7, #453 of 1400 🔗

Hitchens is one of the few people with a public platform who has consistently opposed the madness from the outset. If there had been more people like him, this madness would have ended as soon as it began. Can you point to your public denunciations of the madness that go back to March last year?

439539 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Steve Hayes, #454 of 1400 🔗

He’s not a journo with a public audience.

Piers Corbyn is the real hero of all this.

438764 ▶▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to Julian, 16, #455 of 1400 🔗

I’d have liked to have seen him come out swinging a lot harder against vaccine passports, but yes, at least he raised the issue of coercion. Overall a disappointing intervention though. He seems to ruefully accept that vaccine passports are likely to become a reality and will encourage others, who might have been induced to take a stand, to do likewise. He should have used his platform to denounce them as the dangerous evil that they are (and based on everything he has written and said I find it hard to believe that he would not strongly oppose them in principle).

The danger now is that the prominent lockdown sceptics see the retreat of the zero covid fanatics as a success and bask in the moral superiority of “we were right all along” now that the tide of public opinion seems to be shifting slightly. Yes, you were indeed right all along on the lockdown, and we salute you, but if you take your eye off the ball on the vaccine passport then you sleepwalk into what is perhaps an even greater peril. I can’t remember his exact words, but Toby seemed to suggest to James Delingpole on a recent London Calling that he’d be happy enough to get his jab papers if it allowed him to go back to the pub. Delingpole, rightly, was appalled. Delingpole can be a bit tin-foil hat for my taste and scurries down some murky rabbit holes – Toby is definitely stronger on the detail and more careful in his analysis. But on this issue Delingpole is absolutely spot on. We must not submit to this.

438794 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Johnsontown, 3, #456 of 1400 🔗

Well put

438850 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Julian, 12, #457 of 1400 🔗

Why succumb to a fear of something that hasn’t happened yet? Indeed his taking it has made it incrementally more likely to happen.

438752 ▶▶ LS99, replying to Victoria, 2, #458 of 1400 🔗

They’re certainly piling it on …

438734 Ross Hendry, replying to Ross Hendry, 11, #459 of 1400 🔗

Bloody hell, I could hardly believe this. Bill Gates demanded to be considered as a country so he could be a member state of the WHO! See https://www.bitchute.com/video/s8ywf3Y47oZ4/ (at the 13:04 mark).

Jesus wept, will anyone rid us of this turbulent priest?

438842 ▶▶ Cotton Wool, replying to Ross Hendry, 2, #460 of 1400 🔗

Exactly the same thought occurred to me earlier this morning.

438920 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ross Hendry, 3, #461 of 1400 🔗

No man is an island entire of itself.

438735 LittleMissSunshine, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 11, #462 of 1400 🔗

I think we should come up with a new nick name for Van Tam. Tampax actually serve an essential purpose to a lot of women, i certainly dont see him as essential and Im not sure hes deserving a nick name taken from such a useful product! 😅 😅

438747 ▶▶ alw, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 3, #463 of 1400 🔗

Damnation describes him nicely!

438775 ▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to alw, 3, #464 of 1400 🔗

Tamnation?

438818 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 2, #465 of 1400 🔗

Taminator ?

438918 ▶▶ Annie, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 2, #466 of 1400 🔗

Van Tamiflu.

438956 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to LittleMissSunshine, 1, #467 of 1400 🔗

Van Tam the vaccine man

438965 ▶▶▶ LittleMissSunshine, replying to Two-Six, 4, #468 of 1400 🔗

Van tam the vaccine man, if he cant catch flu, no one can

438736 alw, replying to alw, 3, #469 of 1400 🔗

Lockdown Sceptics ’ Legal Experts on Covid Testing in Schools
https://laworfiction.com/2021/02/stopping-masks-and-face-covering-in-schools/

438737 Steve Hayes, 8, #471 of 1400 🔗

The morning on BBC Breakfast one of their faux journalists (whose name escapes me and I cannot bothered to look it up) asserted that the PCR test is more accurate than the lateral flow test. I suspect he meant more likely to provide a false positive, but who knows?

438738 Basileus, 5, #472 of 1400 🔗
438743 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 3, #473 of 1400 🔗

Contact for whistle blowers in the medical profession:

https://twitter.com/medisolve_org/status/1365939307161264129

438766 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Basileus, 4, #474 of 1400 🔗

And there’s this petition, that only gathered 2,700 signatures over five months. I just don’t believe it. Do you think it’s been nobbled?

Nullify non-disclosure agreements/gagging orders for NHS staff for covid-19”
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/550598

438744 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #475 of 1400 🔗

This is must see stuff, wait for the end Joe Biden: “There will be Enough to Fully Vaccinate 300 Americans to Beat this Pandemic” Why is laughter contagious?

438790 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #476 of 1400 🔗

A symbol of a dying Republic.

438917 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #477 of 1400 🔗

Forward, the jab brigade!
Was there an arm delayed?
Not though the punters knew
Biden had blundered,
Into the jabbery of death
Rode the three hundred

438745 alw, replying to alw, 71, #478 of 1400 🔗

Just had a younger son on the phone saying he and the older son and their families want me to have a vaccine for them. Also being pressurised by a doctor friend who also recommends statins. They can all go to hell. I do what’s right for me. I will not be coerced by anyone.

438755 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to alw, 9, #479 of 1400 🔗

Has the doctor told you all the potential side effects of statins?

438805 ▶▶▶ alw, replying to Steve Hayes, 15, #480 of 1400 🔗

Having done my own research, I know statins are not fit for purpose. Allsorts of side-effects. Have always declined and will always do so.

438817 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to alw, 3, #481 of 1400 🔗

My point was not about the side effects (or the efficacy), it was about the doctor’s ethical duty to ensure that your consent would be fully informed and voluntary.

438770 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to alw, 11, #482 of 1400 🔗

I was phoned last year by my doctor to say they were recommending statins. I asked why and quoted my blood test results. ‘Well, it is your decision’, she said and, ‘I think you are right’. Apparently they get paid for prescribing.

438786 ▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to Basileus, 11, #483 of 1400 🔗

My GP told me once that if my blood test results were slightly worse he’d be prescribing statins, and I said “No, you wouldn’t!”

438866 ▶▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to Basileus, 1, #484 of 1400 🔗

Husband was told to take them, couple of days of not feeling great, has achieved much better results (in his case anyway) through diet. Mind you I wish I had shares in Benecol, the amount of the stuff we buy.

439752 ▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Basileus, 1, #485 of 1400 🔗

of course they do, they have to fill a quota.

438776 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to alw, 8, #486 of 1400 🔗

Make your sons do some work (proper research) – get them to do you a 2 pager document each with pros and cons, then once you have it you can discuss it with them

438810 ▶▶▶ alw, replying to Victoria, 8, #487 of 1400 🔗

Unfortunately younger son’s wife is a junior doctor, so get a lot of textbooks advice As yet no real world experience. I ignore.

438834 ▶▶▶ wendy, replying to Victoria, #488 of 1400 🔗

Victoria that is a great idea, we get people to understand that there may be pluses but there are also minuses to vaccination.

438781 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to alw, 6, #489 of 1400 🔗

Good for you! They need to learn to respect your decisions.

438831 ▶▶ wendy, replying to alw, 15, #490 of 1400 🔗

They want you to have a vaccine for them?? They would feel better if you did something you don’t want to do to yourself! Can’t they see what they are doing to you?

438836 ▶▶ Les Tricoteuses, replying to alw, 7, #491 of 1400 🔗

For them??? How the hell does that work?

438913 ▶▶ Annie, replying to alw, 6, #492 of 1400 🔗

They are always pushing statins. Tell them ‘no’.

438957 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to alw, 2, #493 of 1400 🔗

Send this video on statins to your doctor friend and ask them if messing with the mevalonate pathway is a good idea

Nick Mailer: Your Marvellous Mevalonate Machine vs the Statin Slayer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL0zmmYZZPA

439655 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to alw, 1, #494 of 1400 🔗

Why?? And well done you for standing up for yourself.

438751 richardw53, 3, #495 of 1400 🔗

The disconnect between intellectuals and the working class – Jordan Peterson
https://youtu.be/RKseud2ZamM

438756 Mark, 3, #496 of 1400 🔗

Steps Towards a Technocratic Dystopia
As a conservative I have a knee-jerk suspicion of anything coming from a “social science” background, well justified based on decades of damaging, dangerous and spurious nonsense, but this contained some very interesting observations and discussion. It’s obviously an extract from a letter, and imo could be turned into a very good article with a little tidying up and structuring.

I would suggest amending the numbers in the bit about suicide deaths, because as far as I can see he’s mixing US numbers with UK numbers. Doesn’t really affect the point he’s making, but does create a point of attack.

Also the bit about the Imperial code – as far as I recall the original code was released and (famously) critiqued here, wasn’t it?

438757 FedupofLies, 8, #497 of 1400 🔗

Hitchens is a FUCKING TRAITOR and FALSE OPPOSITION!

He never took on the vaccine issue. SCUMBAG! I always knew he was just a poser.

Was HE out there with Piers Corbyn? No, he preferred to hide behind his screen.

Reading a DISGUSTING North Korea style Biden-worshipping article exhorting parents to make their kids wear masks with all the cognitive and bacterial risks:

Anyone worried about their kids wearing masks at school needs to hear our family’s story (msn.com)

Their pride at having ‘neurodiverse’ children!?

Is THAT what the so-called West has become, well, the English speaking part of it, anway?

Pride in THAT?!

And do they QUESTION why it is that there are so many obsessive-compulsive/ ADHDer kids about.

Might it be that they are helicoptered by their parents, and also vaccine damage in some cases from metal contents?

No, of course NOT!

ONE MORE thing we have learned is that a lot of parents actually couldn’t give a CUNTY FUCK about their own children.

They don’t QUESTION on their behalf.

They view their own kids as assets for virtue signalling.

or maybe they simply don’t like them. After all, they are HUMAN SCUM contributing to climate change and Woolly Mammoths living in peace.

The epitome of this is the DISGUSTING WITCH doctor PONCE who encouraged all pregnant women to take the vaccine in virtue signalling twitter posts. Then three days later she had a miscarriage.

Oh, did she question her decision and try to educate other women? NO! She just moved on.

WOMEN, are you EVIL? I ask this question, honestly. I know men are PATHETIC COWARDS, but I am increasingly of the opinion that most mothers are EVIL!

438761 Banjones, 3, #498 of 1400 🔗

I gave the link below for Voices for Freedom, New Zealand, below. Here’s the email they just sent. There’s a lot of anger there too, despite some thinking that they are meekly submitting to their own tyrant:

……..Cue one young guy with a sister who tested negative not once, not twice, but three times, an everyday social life, a dodgy PCR test (but no respiratory symptoms), and wham – it’s lockup time again.

For the third time (or is it fourth? we’re losing count), a community case with no known origin sees us hurtling into: more job losses, more food chucked in restaurant bins, less stable mental health, kids bunking school, and cars backed up for hours trying to escape a hideous week at Level 3 in Auckland.

We were wrapping up our extremely excellent Panel Discussion and Dinner last night as our phones started ringing and dinging with messages that we were heading into another lockdown. After a day surrounded by intelligent, genuine people of enormous integrity, it was a shock to be pulled back into the dystopian reality that is New Zealand in 2021. The crowd was incredulous, and as we checked and double-checked our messages, looking at each other aghast, our crazy situation sunk in.

If this PM says jump, New Zealanders jump. People don’t question – they grab their nearest mask and head for home. Or do they?

Because this time this whole lockup shebang feels a little different. What’s the vibe where you are? Do people seem a bit more cynical? We spoke to some pretty grumpy business owners today, members of the public that said they were sick of being told what to do, and people that are frustrated with living in limbo.

We’re crossing our fingers that more people are beginning to feel over it. Over the drama, fed up with being spoken to like children and sick of the endless manipulations of the truth.

After all, why exactly was there leftover vaccine last week? No one can believe it’s because MIQ workers have trouble finding time to get the jab? They’re offered it at work .

Today, when Jacinda told us that 75% of those vaccinated so far have been from Counties Manukau – and on that basis, they can justify jabbing South Auckland first as the most vulnerable – I nearly spat out my tea. The almost-expired-vaccine, seemingly refused by MIQ workers last week, was deliberately redirected into the arms of Counties Manukau health workers’ (a month early and to their surprise).

So much for vulnerable populations, statistics, and transparency. the Prime Minister knows perfectly well that she offered the jab to health workers in South Auckland first.

Jacinda Adern et al. are making many sickly sweet comments about feeling frustrated by people, not isolating. In a roundabout way, they’ve set the public up to blame innocent people for government overreach .

One things for sure, this week of lockdown in Auckland will test many more small business owners and families, and Kiwis are, as they say, ripe for the picking.

Read on, we’ve got some ideas about how you can resist, open some eyes and push back against tyranny.

438765 karenovirus, 2, #499 of 1400 🔗

Something to cheer everyone up.
Pro Remain Guardian writer Ed Cumming discovers that it’s not so bad after all.

Coves Bexit, vaccines (logistics not efficacy or otherwise), the City, even football.
Can’t remember the last time I got to the end of a Guradian article without growling.

438772 Banjones, 2, #500 of 1400 🔗

A good idea from Voices for Freedom (NZ):

Join Operation Post-It. It’s easy:

Create a dozen or so post-it notes (black on yellow is best, but any will do) with slogans from our Voices for Freedom signs;

Take them with you in your travels – supermarkets are great as when placed on their shelves they look a little like “Special” advertising;

Post them near the loo paper or other items that people generally stock up on (baking supplies etc);

The goal is to get people thinking and to have them engage with us via our website – let’s GROW this movement!



438773 Tattersall, replying to Tattersall, 8, #501 of 1400 🔗

I think Mr Hitchens ought to go back to the clinic and ask them to take it out again.

438787 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Tattersall, 2, #502 of 1400 🔗

Can they do that? I will give Madge a ring

438911 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Tattersall, 2, #503 of 1400 🔗

Can be done by computer. Rubbish in, rubbish out.

438784 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 20, #504 of 1400 🔗

I hear a lot about modern day slavery where vulnerable people rack up huge debts with people who claim to be helping them. They are then forced to work for years in order to repay those debts.

That is supposedly how modern day slavery works.

What is it called when a government does just that?

438793 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Nobody2021, 5, #505 of 1400 🔗

Glad to see you’re waking up to the system.

438796 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to Nobody2021, 5, #506 of 1400 🔗

Modern Day Dictatorship

438803 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Nobody2021, 3, #507 of 1400 🔗

Part of being in an abusive relationship with the government.

438799 Old Trout, replying to Old Trout, 22, #508 of 1400 🔗

Have been taking a few days off as I was getting close to breaking point. Back now to fight the good fight!

It has not been a very easy time for this old trout. Thanks to the so-called ‘UK strain’ causing the Spanish to close borders to Brits, My other half is at our new house in Spain and I have been separated from him for 4 months now. I was meant to join him at Christmas, after selling my house here, but because I don’t yet have residencia there they won’t let me in! It’s been hard enough being apart and not knowing when I’ll be able to get across there, but then our poor old dog (who was with him) had to be put to sleep a few days ago. I couldn’t say goodbye to the lovely old boy and my partner was heartbroken and alone with nobody to share his sorrow. I know its probably small fry compared to people who have lost parents and other family to this shit show without being able to say goodbye, but the level of anger and hatred it has made me feel for Bozo, Wancock et al, has been almost all-consuming.

I also feel that in the constant debate over whether folk will get on holiday or not, those people who are now separated from family by the ridiculous travel rules have almost been ignored. To anyone else in my situation, I send my sympathy and hopes that we can see our loved ones soon. I have had times where I sometimes wonder if I’ll ever see my partner again and I am sure others have had the same fear.

438822 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Old Trout, 9, #509 of 1400 🔗

The most heartbreaking moment of my life was when one of our dogs suddenly died, I’ve never recovered from it. When my father died I felt little more than a little sorrow!

438854 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #510 of 1400 🔗

I know what you mean. They get under your skin somehow. The only time I’ve seen my dad cry was when he lost his cats, but he didn’t cry when his mother died.

438828 ▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Old Trout, 10, #511 of 1400 🔗

My dog died suddenly on Valentine’s Day last year, and was the worst time of my life. I miss him every day and think about him all the time. He would have loved me unemployed and at home with him every day. My OH was more devastated by the loss of our dog, than his father two years earlier.

My thoughts are with you both, and it’s awful that you are both apart at this time.

438845 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to Redundant Pilot, 7, #512 of 1400 🔗

Thank you, sorry to hear about the loss of your dog. I also had to get my cat put to sleep last year. But thankfully the vets were decent and let me go in with her to say goodbye. I’ve heard that some vets won’t and that must be terrible for pet owners.

438878 ▶▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Old Trout, 5, #513 of 1400 🔗

My cat died 2 years ago, while being operated on, I didnt go to see him before as I thought he would be stressed by seeing me leave, he’s buried in the garden and I’ve had to shingle it over, can’t do anything in that area, my mother and brother have died since, but animals but all their faith in you

438888 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Old Trout, 5, #514 of 1400 🔗

I’m sure everyone who’s lost a beloved pet, part of the family after all, feels for you.
As you say, somehow it seems people who are separated have been forgotten, especially by Johnson et al – in all his patronising tripe that he spews out now and then, has he ever mentioned loved ones being torn apart by his masters’ diktats?

439411 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to Banjones, 1, #515 of 1400 🔗

Thanks for your kind words Banjones, yes they never seem to mention the fact that hundreds of people are miles away from any family, especially those overseas.

438909 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Old Trout, 5, #516 of 1400 🔗

Losing a beloved pet is agony. You have all my sympathy.
Hope you’re soon back with your partner, and maybe in time, a new dog whom you’ll love just as much, without ever forgetting the old one.

439409 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to Annie, 1, #517 of 1400 🔗

Thanks Annie, I hope so, though that all seems like an almost impossible dream at the moment!

438977 ▶▶ fiery, replying to Old Trout, 2, #518 of 1400 🔗

So sorry to hear if the loss of your beloved dog and even more heartbreaking that you couldn’t be there. I’ve lost three dogs over the last eight years and know how painful it is. Our time with them is never long enough. Sending heartfelt condolences to you and your partner.

439414 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to fiery, #519 of 1400 🔗

Thanks very much for your kind words.

439078 ▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to Old Trout, 2, #520 of 1400 🔗

Sorry for your situation, and losing your dog particularly in these circumstances is not small fry. It’s a particular type of sadness, one which people who haven’t loved pets cannot understand.

439422 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to disgruntled246, #521 of 1400 🔗

Thanks very much, it seems a lot to me, although I can’t begin to imagine the pain of those who haven’t been able to say goodbye to a parent or spouse through this inhuman, evil regime.

438811 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 27, #522 of 1400 🔗

Signing off to go out in the Spring sunshine but feeling a bit belligerent so sent this to Michael Gove with the title “Mandatory vaccines? Vaccine papers? Are we now the same as Nazi Germany?”

Part 1

Attn:

Michael Andrew Gove, Minister for the Cabinet Office

cc’d:

Sir William Cash, MP
Sir Graham Brady, MP
Sir Desmond Swayne, MP
Sir Charles Walker, MP

Sir,

This country, which was so proud to have fought against the Nazis in Germany and thought we were better than them all these years are now identical in instituting travel “papers” and “papers please” for everyday life, performing forced medical experiments on unwilling people against their will and without giving them full facts against national and international law and against their Human Rights and that could result in their deaths (and seems to with the observed rise in deaths in certain population demographics here in the UK, the UAE, Gibraltar and the Seychelles recently) and generally stigmatising and pushing to the edge of society those people who do not comply for whatever reason.

Proud of my country?

Not anymore and never again.

This period of our history is shameful and can never be forgotten or forgiven.

I was going to write a long missive with facts, figures, data, information etc on then thought “why bother?”.

This was because of the following reasons:

1. you know that this end game has been planned and worked towards all along and you are just following orders to meet the pre-planned conclusion

OR

2. you are what the Communist Russians used to call a “useful idiot” and are being used to bring in a policy that you know nothing about nor the reasons behind it and you are just following orders

OR

3. you are truly ignorant about what is happening outside Westminster in the real world for whatever reason and your researchers are hiding the true state of the nation from you as they are just following orders to meet the pre-planned conclusion.

If you need a truly independent source of information with no ties to any organisation or benefactor then I can assist.

Which is it?

I cannot think of any other reasons to explain why so many Governments, advisors, Ministers, scientists etc around the world have all jumped onto the same bandwagon to follow the same destructive, draconian policies to bring in the same “vaccine passports” and all give the same reasonings and dodgy science to support their aims and goals and why those who questioned and said this was the planned end a year ago were vilified, threatened and ridiculed.

But one thing I would like explained as not one single person in Government has given a coherent answer of reason for this and that is:

Why are “vaccine passports” necessary as the “vaccine” does NOT meet the legal or medical definition of a vaccine as it:

contains NO attenuated virus
does NOT give immunity or protection from the “virus”
does NOT stop the spread of the “virus”
only “might” decrease the severity of any symptoms
and you still need to self-isolate if you get a positive result from a test that means absolutely nothing medically as admitted in a DHSC FOI and on their website in various documents
and you still need to shield if vulnerable
the manufacturers call it “gene replacement therapy”

Can you also supply an answer other than “we are just following the narrative that has been in place since at least 2018 when the EU first said vaccination passports for travel were planned for 2020 onwards and Microsoft has sold us their ID2020 software”?

I look forward to some answers to my questions.

Also remember at all times your interview in December 2020 when in answer to the question “will we need papers to visit the pub?” you answered “NO” and also remember quotes by various members of this Government about what they would do if asked for an ID card.

Amazing how these same people are now the ones pushing for “ID cards” in all but name.

What changed?

It cannot be the not very frightening and totally innocuous statement below that resulted in the first piece of “coronavirus” legislation that was introduced at 2.30 pm on the 10th February 2020 without Parliamentary oversight or debate. This was The Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020 Statutory Instrument and it was subsequently amended on the 25th February 2020 and is now revoked.

This piece of legislation required a statement of “serious and imminent threat” by the Chief Medical Officer to justify any measures to be taken.

438813 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 19, #523 of 1400 🔗

Part 2:

Rather prophetically there was an unannounced and totally unpublicised release of a statement on the 30th January 2020 by the 4 Chief Medical Officers of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland on this very subject. It stated:

“the 4 UK Chief Medical Officers consider it prudent for our governments to escalate planning and preparation in case of a more widespread outbreak.
For that reason, we are advising an increase of the UK risk level from low to moderate. This does not mean we think the risk to individuals in the UK has changed at this stage, but that government should plan for all eventualities.””

This statement was made 11 days before the piece of legislation it was required for was written and laid before Parliament and came into force the very same afternoon.

How did the 4 CMOs know 11 days in advance of a Statutory Instrument being written that “medical advice” would be required?

Why was this “advice” basically hidden on a webpage on a different department’s section and not on the DHSC webpages and why was it not linked to the Serious and Imminent Threat Declaration?

One final question – how can anyone individual or organisation or person in a position of authority claim to be “independent” when even cursory research shows that the others they sit in committee with, Ministers they report to, the organisation they work for and the MSM outlet they are “interviewed on” all have the same almost incestuous web of professional and financial links to the pharmaceutical industry, the vaccine industry and programmes, the same NGOs and the same charitable foundation name keeps cropping up time and time again as one of their employer’s or the MSM outlet’s largest financial contributor?

Yours sincerely

438867 ▶▶▶ CGL, replying to Awkward Git, 3, #524 of 1400 🔗

Can I ask – do you still get the auto-reply emails from all those you copy in?
I don’t get them now from some of them and wondered if it was just me being blocked, or whether they have switched them off.

Absolutely brilliant as always AG anyway.

439010 ▶▶▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to CGL, 1, #525 of 1400 🔗

Get some auto replies, bit hit and miss even with the same person.

438875 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Awkward Git, 7, #526 of 1400 🔗

Go to the top of the class. You nailed it, AG!

438904 ▶▶▶ smileymiley, replying to Awkward Git, 4, #527 of 1400 🔗

Excellent again AG 👍

438906 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to smileymiley, 5, #528 of 1400 🔗

*gasp of admiration*

438870 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Awkward Git, #529 of 1400 🔗

Plus segregation.

438980 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Basileus, 1, #531 of 1400 🔗

Great article thanks.

Headline:

653 Deaths + 12,044 Other Injuries Reported Following COVID Vaccine, Latest CDC Data Show

 The numbers reflect the latest data available as of Feb. 4 from the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System website. Of the 653 reported deaths, 602 were from the U.S. The average age of those who died was 77, the youngest was 23.

438814 B.F.Finlayson, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 7, #532 of 1400 🔗

PETER HITCHENS: I’ve had the Covid jab – and all it cost me was my freedom
Ha ha!! Once again the flip-flopping spineless regime shill Hitchins (curiously beloved of so many) tries to justify his cowardice in submitting to regime gene therapy – and of course he gets paid for it by the Fail! For those with sensitive stomachs I will summarise:
“Weren’t my fault Guv, I ‘ad to do it. I mean, I need to go abroad see the kids, so there’s nothin’ I could do about it, that’s gawd’s honest truth! Not that I’m going soft, or scared or anything, but, you know they twisted me arm they did, and there weren’t nothin’ I could do about it..!” (..keep looping in ever decreasing circles…)

438893 ▶▶ Mark, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 8, #533 of 1400 🔗

Once again the flip-flopping spineless regime shill

Bizarre piece of personal abuse, that is so obviously the diametric opposite of reality as to question the basic sanity, or honesty, of the one using it.

I won’t bother addressing the obvious nonsense of Hitchens being a “regime shill” generally, but the specific issue of his taking the vaccine is relevant and important.

Lockdown scepticism, or lockdown resistance, is not congruent with opposition to vaccination. The two are related and natural allies in the present situation, but broadly speaking, here on LS at any rate, the latter is a subset of the former. All vaccine opponents here on LS are lockdown opponents, but the reverse is not the case. Vaccine opponents are further subdivided into those who oppose vaccines generally, and those who just have an issue with this one. Hitchens fits into the latter category, by his own account.

Hitchens betrays nothing in lockdown scepticism per se by taking the vaccine, though it is certainly arguable (and I would do so) that the vaccine is a bad thing for lockdown resistance, that should be opposed. I have to recognise, though, that the contrary can be argued and indeed that is the stated position of the LS site owner. What Hitchens has done, for reasons that are not worthy of respect, is betray his resistance to this particular vaccine. He admits openly that he has done so in submission to state coercion.

That’s clearly disappointing, for anyone who has respect for Hitchens generally, or for his almost unique high profile stand against lockdowns from the beginning.

HItchens has always taken vaccines in order to travel, and thus argues (legitimately) that this can be regarded as that. Myself, I would say that there are wider issues here that mean he should have resisted taking the vaccine, but it is a decision for him. If nothing else, solidarity with those refusing to be pressured would imo be sufficient to justify foregoing the luxury of foreign travel, certainly for the time being. But that’s for Hitchens to judge based on his personal circumstances.

It’s understandable that vaccine opponents are disappointed when a lockdown opponent who is not a vaccine opponent fails to stand with them on the vaccine issue. They have to choose, I suppose, whether to regard that as an unforgivable breach of solidarity that dissolves any alliance, or to accept it as a choice that is regrettable but does not remove the advantages of cooperation in the fight against lockdown.

438969 ▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Mark, 3, #534 of 1400 🔗

Bizarre piece of personal abuse,

Not at all, Hitchens chooses to be paid as a propagandist and influencer , I have called him out several occasions for his willingness to do convenient U-turns. Do as I say not what I do is constant feature of his Groucho Marxist philosophy. Be sure this is not the first time.

HItchens has always taken vaccines in order to travel,

So have I, so have countless thousands, the key word being ‘vaccines’; tried tested vaccines, often needed when working abroad. They are not, however, phase 3 trial experimental gene therapy being pumped into millions before clinically approved – or with any idea of long term contra-indications. The Pharma companies will NOT indemnify those that suffer from their C19 jabs – or have you forgotten that? There is NO equivalence, and previous vaccines cannot be used as a justification.
Hitchens has now surrendered to Gates & Blair’s vaxx-passport fascism, there is no other word. Either you get this experimental jab, or we lockdown and imprison you forever. But Hitchens shows us all the way out – roll up your sleeve (while metaphorically bending over).

Lockdown scepticism, or lockdown resistance, is not congruent with opposition to vaccination.

See above. Stop conflating opposition to vaccines with to opposition to experimental gene therapy. Opposition to government lockdown IS opposition to all aspects of this unprecedented repressive policy , and above all when the way to get out (temporarilly) is via experimental gene therapy that is running up at least 5 unnecessary immediate deaths daily in the UK, and f*** knows how many in the future. Just wait until the court cases start mounting.

the advantages of cooperation in the fight against lockdown

We cannot fight against the lockdown scam, without fighting compulsory gene therapy.

438819 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 7, #536 of 1400 🔗

Peter’s personal choice which is fine. Or was it a real choice?

Giving in to blackmail ‘just once to make them go away’ never works.

Once you have given in they will always come back for more.

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1365908733545635842

438826 ▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Victoria, 8, #537 of 1400 🔗

“Weren’t my fault Guv, I ‘ad to do it. I mean, I need to go abroad see the kids, so there’s nothin’ I could do about it, that’s gawd’s honest truth! Not that I’m going soft, or scared or anything, but, you know they twisted me arm they did, and there weren’t nothin’ I could do about it..!”
Peter Fritchins, see below also

438846 ▶▶ Dan L, replying to Victoria, 14, #538 of 1400 🔗

I can’t even bear to read the original article, but it seems to me he took the vaccine at the earliest possible moment he could. As soon as it was offered his age group. If vaccine passports were the only reason to take it why not at least wait until they are introduced. Why not show even a little reluctance or resistance? One could suspect that despite what his protestations he is in fact a supporter of vaccine passports and his action is calculated to promote their introduction. I now have less respect for him than even the straight-out promoters like Tony Blair at least they are giving their views to us in plain sight.

438882 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Dan L, 5, #539 of 1400 🔗

It’s like the fall of Singapore when we surrendered without a shot being fired.
No comments posted yet on the article.The moderator must be extremely busy censoring the most critical.

438896 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to Dan L, 6, #540 of 1400 🔗

Hi Dan,

He’s fully entitled to do as he wishes, but I think its the nature of his explanation that sticks in the craw. Particularly his suggestion that all is lost – seems very premature to make that assertion particularly when we are heading into spring and bearing in mind the front page of yesterday’s Daily Mail. Yes, he may ultimately be right (although I sincerely hope & believe otherwise) but is now really the time to throw the towel in?

I felt that his suggestion that he might miss his slot seemed particularly odd, bearing in mind they are desperate for all and sundry to get it.

My wife thought he may have been “leaned on” as just a few weeks ago or such he was saying he’d done his travelling and was content to stay in the UK in the future. I appreciate that this may be something to do with family abroad and he has his personal reasons which are private.

Kindest regards

Simon

438978 ▶▶▶▶ Dan L, replying to SimonCook, 4, #541 of 1400 🔗

Simon,

I agree that he is free to take the vaccine if he wishes to do so. But I think because he is telling everyone about it is his duty to tell us the real reason he is taking it. His stated reasons are such obvious tosh. This leads me to agree that your wife is right and the real reason for him agreeing to be vaccinated is unsavoury (cash or the promise of other reward? blackmail? threats?)

438849 ▶▶ Saved To Death, replying to Victoria, 8, #542 of 1400 🔗

My reluctant, self-interested Covid vaccination was an act of surrender to an new controlled world.”

Sounds like informed consent to me. Quick jab him before he changes his mind.

438863 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Saved To Death, 8, #543 of 1400 🔗

While millions fight against the new controlled world, wonder why he couldnt

438880 ▶▶▶ Thomas_E, replying to Saved To Death, 5, #544 of 1400 🔗

He can fuck off
.We have the wrong Hitches alive.

438952 ▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to Victoria, 2, #545 of 1400 🔗

People are piling onto Peter Hitchens on Twitter; he’s defending himself robustly as always. There’s going to be a lot of views on this, but I’ve copied below a selection of his comments so we can at least see where he is coming from. Myself, I think he is a good and wise man but I do think he has given way too readily on an important matter of principle (not in taking the vaccine – I think he’s perfectly entitled to do that if he wants to and it’s none of our business – but in accepting that “vaccine passports” are now a regrettable inevitability that most people will be forced to have). The upshot of his comments is more or less “we fought but we lost and now we have no choice but to live our lives according to the rules of the victorious force.” He may well ultimately be right but I don’t think actually we have lost yet and I don’t think we should stop fighting.

“What I argued for was resistance to a dangerous change in our way of life. Too few people cared. Even fewer joined me. My side lost. Now, like everyone else, I must live in the changed world which I, at least warned against and tried to prevent.

I just decided that, at the age of 69, I did not necessarily have unlimited time to wait to see an important part of my family, living abroad, whom I now have not seen for more than a year. And I decided not to keep it a secret.

Defeatism is a desire for defeat, not a recognition of defeat when it has taken place.

Defeat happened months ago, I’ve been trying to keep going, but it’s absurd to continue pretending that the wrong side haven’t won.

Despite the 85% support for for the new health and safety state , it took my decision to have a vaccine to make you realise the sceptics have comprehensively lost?

I won’t be told that by having a vaccination I have betrayed everything I have ever said about the Covid panic, because it is not true.

I have taken no position on the vaccine, and my action contradicts *nothing* that I have said. And that it is quite obvious that the sceptic side was outnumbered and lost despite being right. To say the battle hasn’t begun is absurd.

I have never taken any stance on the vaccine, and my action contradicts nothing I have said. It changes nothing about my general position on the Covid panic, and I continue to regard it as a grave national mistake.

The new health security state is coming into being because its opponents were too weak, and failed to prevent it. If individuals now make self-damaging gestures, they will affect only themselves.

I recognised a threat to liberty from the beginning,and fought against it with all I had. Few cared, fewer fought alongside me. The cause is lost. Not sure what blow I strike against the new state by cutting myself off from my family.

I do *not* think they will give it [my freedom] back. That is why I fought so hard to keep it. But I lost, and the British people lost, because too few cared and even fewer fought. Like so many bad things, this rubbish is *popular*. What do we do now? Pretend we won?I do *not* think they will give it back. That is why I fought so hard to keep it. But I lost, and the British people lost, because too few cared and even fewer fought. Like so many bad things, this rubbish is *popular*. What do we do now? Pretend we won?

If it took me reluctantly having a vaccine to make you realise that the government has inflicted a crushing defeat on the lockdown sceptics, you must truly be unobservant. What is the point in pretending this defeat has not happened?

I have never entered into any controversy about the vaccine. I campaigned for 11 months to prevent this new health security state from coming into being. I failed, not for lack of trying but through lack of support.”

(And so on….)

438964 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Johnsontown, 7, #546 of 1400 🔗

To take or not take the vaccine is a personal choice & what ever that choice it should be respected. Except he didn’t keep it personal did he, he advertised it to the world, why?

To encourage others to do the same, so fuck him, he’s a sell out & a coward, not worth listening to any more. We now know how Hitchens would have crumbled if the Nazis came looking for collaborators & snitches. Hitch the Snitch, well deserved of cunt of the week!

439062 ▶▶▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #547 of 1400 🔗

Yes OK, and I don’t like the article and I don’t really understand his motivation in writing it. The view I want to get across though is that being for or against or agnostic about the vaccine is one thing. As it happens I’m on the fence myself and we can argue about that if you like. But being in favour of a vaccine passport or some sort of covid status certification is for me a different matter. It’s an unwarranted intrusion into privacy in and of itself and also the thin end of the wedge as far as the drift towards a China-lite social credit system is concerned. As far as I’m concerned Hitchens can have the vaccine if he likes (although as you say maybe best to keep quiet about it) and he can accept ruefully that a vaccine certificate for international travel may indeed be necessary. But he should still use his platform to argue forcefully against the broader destruction of our freedom that this will usher in, and not just throw his hands up and say that we have lost. As Delingpole says, maybe he is truly “black pilled” and things the game is over. If so, though, to be honest why bother going on Twitter and arguing the toss with idiots; why keep writing the column apart from the money? If western civilization is done for, why not retreat into silence?

439143 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Johnsontown, #548 of 1400 🔗

Your body your choice I profoundly believe that. You or he don’t, shouldn’t have to justify/debate your choice either way!

But he makes a living as a public figure, I don’t agree with him on much, but I always thought he was a truthful, intelligent man with integrity & principle how wrong was I. He’s abused his privilege!

439542 ▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #549 of 1400 🔗

I can’t remember Hitchens being out on the front line with Piers Corbyn et al.

438988 ▶▶▶ Dan L, replying to Johnsontown, 2, #550 of 1400 🔗

How depressing. I imagine that he took a lot of flak for his views and respect for putting up with that but it sounds like he has just given up. Personally I’m still alive and one piece, I’ve not been jabbed with anything yet and I’m not ready to surrender yet. Even if they “win” we can still resist – why give up now?

439005 ▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Johnsontown, 2, #551 of 1400 🔗

I think he’s perfectly entitled to do that if he wants to and it’s none of our business

Of course it’s our business!! Hitchens is a professional influencer and journalist who has chosen to MAKE IT OUR BUSINESS by putting his decision writ large in a national newspaper in an co-ordinated effort to get people to follow him into taking a phase 3 experimental jab , and therefore give in to Blairite propaganda and government pressure.
When people start dying and having long term side effects will their families be indemnified by Hitchens (or the Queen, or Prince William, trusted celebs etc, etc), because (cast your mind back) big Pharma has had 100% exemption from liability from the start. A-Z. Pfizer, Moderna et al have stated that they couldn’t risk putting out these experimental drugs if they had to indemnify those that suffer from their mistakes – go figure!!

439030 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Johnsontown, 1, #552 of 1400 🔗

He doth protest a lot, dothn’t he ? 🙂

438821 James Leary #KBF, replying to James Leary #KBF, 12, #553 of 1400 🔗

Your pilot (government) is cruising along happily – heading for, say a destination outside the EU, when suddenly: BANG! With a real pilot in control, the first thing that happens is, nothing. The pilot spends a few seconds putting down his newspaper, and getting his brain into a different mode. The second thing that happens is he orders a cup of tea from the girl in the front galley. This simple act instills a sense of calm in those around him, and most importantly, in himself. Next he makes sure the aircraft is still flying properly, straight and level or whatever it was doing before the bang: it’s not gone into a dive, or it’s not doing stupid things. If it is he returns it to the previous state. Then he has a think about where he’s allowing the plane to take him. If he’s heading towards a range of hills, and whatever caused the bang means he might not be able to climb over them, then he points the ship in a direction which won’t kill everybody, at least for the time being. It may be that the original destination may have to be changed, but that’s for later. THEN, and only then, after the first two bits of crisis management have been done to his satisfaction, and he knows where he’s going, and he knows how to get there, does he start to communicate with those inside and outside the aeroplane. Otherwise he’ll spend hours changing what he’s said to others as the situation and the how to get out of it changes, as Hirohito said “not necessarily to our advantage”.

The golden rules of flying your way through a crisis, since taken up by other professions.

AVIATE, NAVIGATE, COMMUNICATE.

This government, and many others around the world have got it ass-backwards. But what do you expect from professional politicians?

439022 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to James Leary #KBF, 3, #554 of 1400 🔗

Those organising the coup are not politicians; from their point of view they got things exactly right.

438874 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Victoria, 4, #558 of 1400 🔗

The government is not ‘forced’ to debate this. Their ‘debates’ are just talk fests, the results of which are always “We’ve talked about it, but we still won’t do it”. Oh, and they closed the hall where these ‘debates’ are held weeks ago.

438838 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 4, #559 of 1400 🔗
438852 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Basileus, #560 of 1400 🔗

very worrying

438839 Nobody2021, replying to Nobody2021, 7, #561 of 1400 🔗

Why has the world turned into one where everyone needs a study/news article to show what people have known for years?

Why Common Colds Might Spike When Kids Return to School

Hong Kong schools reported a surge in colds when students resumed in-person learning. Here’s what it means for kids in the U.S., and what parents can do to prepare.

438876 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Nobody2021, 4, #562 of 1400 🔗

Clearly they have never heard of ‘freshers flu’.

438926 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to karenovirus, 2, #563 of 1400 🔗

Or apparently they don’t know its winter!

438855 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 4, #564 of 1400 🔗

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40235027.html

The lead party in Ireland’s coalition government is taking a hit in the polls – apparently due to the slow rollout of “vaccinations” but also due to the failure to lift lockdowns.

438868 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Ewan Duffy, 1, #565 of 1400 🔗

How come the party that won the election was locked out of government by a conspiracy of the losing parties? On the face of it, that sounds highly anti-democratic.

438871 ▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Steve Hayes, #566 of 1400 🔗

It’s how party politics works, not unusual at all.

438900 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to karenovirus, #567 of 1400 🔗

No it is not how party politics works: it is how the establishment parties (Fine Gael and Fianna Fail) excluded an alternative perspective.

438915 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Steve Hayes, 2, #568 of 1400 🔗

SF did not “win” the election. They also have a minority of support.

Whilst it would be harder to be more locked down than we are in Ireland, SF would have delivered it. Probably have involved their pals in the IRA to carry out kneecappings of those breaking lockdown.

439458 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Ewan Duffy, #569 of 1400 🔗

If SF sis not win the election, who did?

438856 Jo Starlin, 21, #570 of 1400 🔗

Re the ATL lead item today, people walking in a public park are now “revellers” who need to be “engaged” by the police. Haven’t we come a long way?

438859 CivilianNotCovidian, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 22, #571 of 1400 🔗

REQUEST…

Can we please rename
“The Great Reset”

THE GREAT REJECT

We reject it. We do not want it. We want our lives back. Go away WEF, and never come back!

438895 ▶▶ Janette, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, #572 of 1400 🔗

Good one

438861 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 6, #574 of 1400 🔗

Treating “the science” as an authority is profoundly unscientific. Nullius in verba , as the Royal Society used to (ie, in pre-lockdown times) know. Now, it seems, the vast majority do not know this. Indeed, the majority seem to prefer assertions from authority figures to science, which simply means finding out in a manner that creates valid and reliable knowledge.

438872 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Steve Hayes, 3, #575 of 1400 🔗

The Science’ is a misleading term. But it has validity in terms of meaning ‘the application of rational method to assessing phenomena rather than a fixed body of knowledge.

438891 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to RickH, 4, #576 of 1400 🔗

When they use the term “the science” they are not referring to the scientific method. It is an appeal to authority as should be blindingly obvious from such measures that were so justified: eg, two metre social distancing rule, wearing face masks, rule of six, the ten pm rule, the face masks when standing but not when seated in the same venue rule, etc.

438901 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Steve Hayes, 11, #577 of 1400 🔗

Indeed – “The Science” has a bit of form doesn’t it:

438966 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to leggy, 2, #578 of 1400 🔗

Science still uses heroin, and its derivatives,

439217 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to leggy, #579 of 1400 🔗

Radium was also promoted as a benefit to health.

438862 karenovirus, 10, #580 of 1400 🔗

With Pieres Morgan and rest harping on about 120k Covid deaths within 12 months (yes I know, 2 outbreaks in 1 year).
I would like to be able to ask those who have lost loved ones whether or not they had seriously expected them to survive for 6-12 months longer than they did.

I have only been able to do this once when a middle aged man told me his dad had just died ‘of covid’ in a care home.
After the usual condolences I asked if he had been otherwise fit and well to which he replied.

“He was getting on a bit but apart from diabetes he was ok, oh and he was going down with dementia.”

He was surprised that he had just listed three co-morbidities in that short sentence.

438864 RickH, replying to RickH, #581 of 1400 🔗

All of us as Conservative MPs, not just in this election, are elected by the British people because people trust us with the nation’s public finances, they trust us with their money, they trust us to run the economy responsibly,”

I laughed and laughed ’till the tears ran down my leg.

It’s a bit like trusting a perp standing over a body with a wallet in one hand and an iron bar in the other.

Start with 100% tax on income over £100k, plus a swinging tax on assets above – say – £1m, Sunak, and I might (actually probably not) believe you – or at least give some credit for sincerity. Not that I’m recommending it …. just being logical.

438881 ▶▶ RickH, replying to RickH, 7, #582 of 1400 🔗

… and note this :

it is understood that he has turned his back on a mooted windfall tax on the “excess profits” of internet companies.”

Transparently deceptive little piper, isn’t he?

439038 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to RickH, 3, #583 of 1400 🔗

Yes, and intending instead to impose a new tax on online purchases. So all the little shops have been closed (many of them permanently), people have been forced into relying on internet shopping and now will have to pay more for the privilege while the big internet companies get richer. The chorus to an old music hall song comes to mind:

It’s the same the whole world over:
It’s the poor what gets the blame;
It’s the rich what gets the pleasure;
Ain’t it all a bloomin’ shame?

438879 FedupofLies, 1, #584 of 1400 🔗

Just found out that this CUNT HEALTH TOTALITARIAN STATE makes it actually ILLEGAL to purchase suicide drugs like Nembutal.

And any sites out there are SCAMS!

So, there really is NO ESCAPE apart from the rope.

WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKING BASTARDS!

FUCK THEM TO HELL!

I WOULD ENDURE THE CUNTING DEVIL SO LONG AS THESE BASTARDS GET THE SAME! BASTARDS!

438883 Harry hopkins, replying to Harry hopkins, 45, #585 of 1400 🔗

“I hope it becomes known as the Blair Passport – as it is largely the warmongering Creature’s idea and people will come to hate it, as they have come to hate so many of his actions.”

And yet Peter, you have taken up the ‘Blair passport’ under your own free will and have succumbed to the fear and gross criminal and murderous behaviour of the government and its dictatorial madness you profess to abhor. SHAME ON YOU!!

I gave up listening to your chats months ago on talk radio when you kept pedalling the government ineptitude and incompetence line. It seemed to me that you were under the impression (and still are it would seem) that all it needed was for the government to recognise the error of their ways and that they would respond to the overwhelming evidence that at best Covid 19 does not exist and at worst, if it does, it is no worse than seasonal flu. And now here you are….joining the jib jabs. You are obviously totally ignorant of the vaccine and its potential for huge harm for those who have it. Be it on your own head you demonstrably silly man.

You have taken the jib jab at a time when the government are desperate to get the numbers up because anecdotal evidence is reporting huge numbers of people refusing it. I ask you? Why on earth would they wheel out the Queen to shore up their failing efforts if they weren’t in full panic mode. The government are so detached from reality that they are totally unaware that by harnessing the support of the much despised, obscenely rich and totally care less family known as the Windsors they have shot themselves in the foot. People who were wavering before will now refuse the jab simply because of the publicity the queen and that other much detested and murderous figure once known as the ‘middle east peace envoy’—aka Tony Blair, are giving it. Unlike Peter Hitchens, who has shown his ultimate stupidity, most folk in Britain are wise enough to realise that when the Queen opens her mouth and it is echoed by tony Blair, they should be doing the exact opposite of what they say.

438886 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Harry hopkins, 8, #586 of 1400 🔗

REPUBLIC NOW!

438903 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Harry hopkins, 11, #587 of 1400 🔗

I agree but it’s not Blair’s idea.As usual he is the front man for other more serious players.

438932 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to jonathan Palmer, 7, #588 of 1400 🔗

Yes. I have massive problems with Blair and his bug-eyed self-righteousness that has done so much damage.

But he is one of the bit-players. You only have to say ‘Iraq’ to show the eccentricity of his judgment. And, of course, the sheer barminess and outright deception of judgments about Covid puts Iraq into the shade by such criteria.

438912 ▶▶ richmond, replying to Harry hopkins, 4, #589 of 1400 🔗

First class post.

438921 ▶▶ Christopher, replying to Harry hopkins, 5, #590 of 1400 🔗

Excellent post Sir .

438949 ▶▶ WasSteph, replying to Harry hopkins, 26, #591 of 1400 🔗

I’ve had a lot of respect for the Queen over the years. I think she has steered wisely through a tricky course. But this is just outrageous. Sorry Liz, my body does not belong to you, Johnson, Whitty, Hancock, Blair or anyone but me. I’ll make my own risk assessment. Those who have been scared out of their minds or coerced will be taking this. Nobody taking one of the jabs is doing it with the full facts and for sensible reasons at this stage of the game.

439654 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to WasSteph, 5, #592 of 1400 🔗

Like when she steered her country wisley through the ethnic cleansing of her cuntrymen and women from cities.

like when she stood by and watched them experiment on children.

Like when she stood by and allowed totalitariansim in her country.;

Stop doffing your cap to these SCUM.

Don’t you realise? They have a place in the future.

They are not taking the vaccines.

Don’t be a mug!

438885 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 10, #593 of 1400 🔗

The latest on the Reiner Fullermich class action:

https://greatreject.org/second-nuremberg-tribunal/

438944 ▶▶ mariehelene, replying to Basileus, #594 of 1400 🔗

Hi Basileus. You said previously there was a way to bypass DT paywall! Can you divulge? Thanks!

438947 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to mariehelene, 2, #595 of 1400 🔗

Hit Escape button twice as the page loads or refreshes. Takes a few tries until you get the hang of it.

439173 ▶▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to Jo Starlin, #596 of 1400 🔗

Once usually works for me, but yes.

438892 2 pence, replying to 2 pence, 9, #597 of 1400 🔗

<<<<<Europe’s AstraZeneca stockpile mounts as citizens snub jab Emmanuel Macron forced to extol its virtues after efficacy doubts and adverse publicity damped trust

After battling with AstraZeneca over shipment delays, and even casting doubt over its Covid-19 jab’s efficacy, EU countries are seeing stocks of the company’s shots pile up — unused. As of Friday, France had administered 16 per cent of the 1.1m doses of the two-injection vaccine it received since the first delivery in early February, according to health ministry data. As of Thursday, Germany had given a little over one-fifth of the 1.45 million doses, about the same proportion as Italy, which has received over 1m doses. Spain has used just under a third of a total of 808,000 doses as of Friday.

German chancellor Angela Merkel acknowledged that there was “an acceptance problem with the AstraZeneca vaccine at the moment” that was slowing the jab’s rollout. In an interview with Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper on Thursday, she urged people to keep an open mind about it: “All the authorities tell us that we can trust this vaccine.>>>>>
https://www.ft.com/content/767fdd85-5329-479d-b565-4ec85d28b492?fbclid=IwAR0CJiCkdh4j9t9DZFkmTK_BpZ0XLESm9a0pDLdAw0IcLCsVjhyEDSap4oQ

438945 ▶▶▶ Harry hopkins, replying to Burlington, 5, #599 of 1400 🔗

It’s a pity Peter Hitchens didn’t read this before getting his jib jab!

438961 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Burlington, 2, #600 of 1400 🔗

Nick Cohen (he of the Grauniad) should read and listen.

439201 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Burlington, 1, #601 of 1400 🔗

It’s a good check-list to have to hand.

438919 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to 2 pence, 11, #602 of 1400 🔗

At least the people in the EU seem to be more ‘aware’ than the majority of my fellow countrymen of whom I am wholeheartedly ashamed.

438934 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to 2 pence, 5, #603 of 1400 🔗

Just as well the people clearly don’t trust the authorities.

438946 ▶▶ mariehelene, replying to 2 pence, 12, #604 of 1400 🔗

I think the french have common sense and won’t be fobbed off with one more vaccine to their mandatory schedule! I’m french and I’m not having that shit!

438971 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to 2 pence, 8, #605 of 1400 🔗

The EU surveyed GPs in every Member State in 2018 and produced a summary of results. One of the questions was about GP confidence (i.e. the GPs themselves, not their patients) in the safety of the flu vaccine. The country with the highest confidence was the UK, but still only with 85.4% confidence, so 1 in 6 UK GPs considered the flu vaccine to possibly be unsafe. The confidence level is far below the UK level in every other EU country, with French GPs having 51.8% confidence.

So it’s little wonder that there is such low interest on the continent for promoting/taking an experimental vaccine of no proven safety and with little, if not no, efficacy.

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/health/files/vaccination/docs/2018_vaccine_confidence_en.pdf

(see summary table on page 18)

438894 Burlington, replying to Burlington, 31, #606 of 1400 🔗

Breaking news!

438897 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Burlington, 6, #607 of 1400 🔗

Very allarming.

438914 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Burlington, 1, #608 of 1400 🔗

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 I don’t blame them!

439032 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Burlington, #609 of 1400 🔗

Haha love it

439522 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Burlington, 1, #610 of 1400 🔗

It kills you before you can finish saying its name.

438902 Stringfellow Hawke, 25, #611 of 1400 🔗

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem gives lockdowns the smackdown – says no Governor should have the right to tell someone their business is not essential, that covid didn’t wreck the economy Governors wrecked the economy, and “Dr Fauci is wrong a lot!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lep70dcxrYA

438907 RickH, replying to RickH, 15, #612 of 1400 🔗

The item (above) by an anonymous reader, taking a broad ‘political’ and philosophical view of the situation, is really welcome. We tend to get bogged down between the two polls of close-up data analysis and incoherent cursing.

It’s worthwhile to step back and take an overview of the basic political morality of the shit-show.

The following gets to the heart of the matter :

I don’t believe there is any significant moral difference between a Government, a terrorist group, or an individual abuser making such threats, and I don’t believe the ends justify the means”,

and for those with limited political insight who are simply wedded to old labels and fixations, the following needs to be absorbed :

“.. .I could also cite dozens of political theories which oppose the general model that the Government should do whatever it likes on behalf of the entire society based on expert guidance. Literally everything from right-libertarianism to the Marxist class model of society, from Kantian deontology to participatory and deliberative democracy, from conservatism to deep ecology to postcolonial theory, runs against this view.”

An excellent read.

438941 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to RickH, 34, #613 of 1400 🔗

I have spent my entire adult life studying politics from many angles. Philosophy, ethics, public services, money systems. I spent 5 years at university doing so. I have an MSc. I have worked for politicians and and public bodies. I have worked for NGOs. I have worked for one of the largest private consulting companies in the world and so have extensive experience in the private sector too.

I am by no means an expert. But even in my private time I read books on the subject of politics, my current being one on Anarchism. I have maybe 2% books which are fiction. It’s my area of interest, broadly speaking, to find out how the world works and who is in power.

The reason I say this is to show that I do understand history and politics from a number of angles. Yet, and this is the point really, I get almost no respect from my family on this. I think my character has a lot to do with it.

Case in point – yesterday a few family members were round and one is a senior nurse. She is encouraging all to take the so called vaccine and I said that I will not, somewhat because I don’t see the need given the absolute risk reduction for me, but largely from a philosophical point of view.

We are heading somewhere extremely worrying. And I do not consent. I remain unconvinced any of this is now about a virus but about something else which is wide open to speculation. It is plain idiotic to suggest a vaccine has anything to do with freedom from opression. I made a few references to history and enlightenment writers on freedom.

The glazed look from the nurse and everyone else was expected but hopeless. They will not understand these worries and no amount of reminding them about my own knowledge will bridge the gap. Nurse says vaccines are good, so that’s that.

I fear the only way to make them understand is to see it with their own eyes. That I am first restricted from travel, then local businesses, then maybe from unemployment and who knows what after that. Maybe then they’ll see that this is not about a virus and they’ve had 10 boosters for their vaccines while I’ve been branded.

438974 ▶▶▶ godowneasy, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 10, #614 of 1400 🔗

Great post. Those of us who continue to resist this tyranny are on a long lonely road. Isolated from society and even our own families. Your last para is interesting. I wonder, when your family have had 10 boosters, whether they will see your point of view. I suspect not because they will be so entrapped in the regime by that time that they will be even less able to accept that you were right.

439052 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to godowneasy, 7, #615 of 1400 🔗

they won’t get 10 boosters – it’ll have killed them all long before that. and saddest of all they’ll die believing that it was you that killed them, by your refusal to get vaccinated

439089 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #616 of 1400 🔗

I used to think I was bluntly truthful. Jane you’re a pro, I’m just an amateur in comparison. Cold hard truth is the best way. There’s no comfort in a lie.

439152 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to JaneHarry, 2, #617 of 1400 🔗

I already have my stock reply which is “Why fear me – you’ve had the jab and you wear a mask surely you are protected – no?

439150 ▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to godowneasy, 1, #618 of 1400 🔗

Its even more imperative then that we support each other however we can.

438976 ▶▶▶ DavidC, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 5, #619 of 1400 🔗

BeBopRockSteady, a great posting from you. I. like you, tend towards factual rather than fictional books. My degree was in science rather than the subjects you studied. My career ended in the financial sector (my career careered a bit!) so I have quite an insight to that side of things rather than the political (bearing in mind however how much they overlap!).

But I agree with everything you’ve written.

DavidC

439012 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to DavidC, 5, #620 of 1400 🔗

Thank you. I too work in mostly finance but in terms of IT systems. I have worked for the world’s largest banks and retailers. To see this kind of dynamic at play in my own family is deeply troubling.

I am considered a rabbid conspiracy theorist, or not far from it.

439101 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 4, #621 of 1400 🔗

Thing is people seek comfort in their own fantasy of the world, they don’t want to accept the fact they are being manipulated, that the system isn’t their to serve their safety & wellbeing. They are unwilling to accept they are there to serve the system for a few. People think things will never, can never change for the worse.

As a matured conspiracy theorist I’ve been expecting this shitshow for years, but even I didn’t realize it would all happen so quickly, so soon. I thought I’d be on the way out before it happened. Even I’m shocked by it. You don’t need qualifications to see what’s happening in fact I’d say it helps not to have formal higher education.

439171 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 4, #622 of 1400 🔗

Being labelled a conspiracy theorist is their stock response, it was the same when I became an active member of UKIP, I soon discovered what is felt like to be abused, being continually referred to as a fruitcake and racist by the Establishment hardened me somewhat to their abuse. I refuse to be cowed or bullied. I take heart from the many people out there who feel as I do.

439147 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 3, #623 of 1400 🔗

TBH I’ve lived in blissful ignorance of politics for a good part of my life, whoever said ‘Ignorance is bliss’ was speaking the truth, however I do regret not being ‘Awakened’ sooner I might have taken a different career path.

439196 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 1, #624 of 1400 🔗

I fear the only way to make them understand is to see it with their own eyes .”

Problem : “ see[ing] it with their own eyes ” is dependent on perception – not objective reality. That is the level at which brainwashing works, and unpicking bias confirmation isn’t easy.

It’s also got bugger all to do with expertise and intelligence.

I’ve got the same problem, BeBop.

439287 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to RickH, 1, #625 of 1400 🔗

It’s a risk in a way although I do not see it as such. I have time at least to see what happens next. If this world wishes to send me to a hole, then it was it never for me anyway. I’ll fight it regardless

438925 FenTyger, replying to FenTyger, 10, #626 of 1400 🔗

I think I may be sick…

438929 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to FenTyger, 6, #627 of 1400 🔗

🤮

438937 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to FenTyger, 4, #628 of 1400 🔗

Where did this bile come from? BBC?

438938 ▶▶▶ FenTyger, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #629 of 1400 🔗

FB site

438942 ▶▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to FenTyger, 14, #630 of 1400 🔗

For the sake of your mental and physical health, ditch Zuckerburg’s monstrosity, you’ll feel a lot better for it.

438943 ▶▶ Bill H, replying to FenTyger, 3, #631 of 1400 🔗

Barf.

438954 ▶▶ Jonny S., replying to FenTyger, 17, #632 of 1400 🔗

If you had known you would have fought.
If you had fought you would have known.

As loved ones struggle with their mental health
how many more unknown.

Now it’s me and at my graveside
family and friends all stood and cried
The government and all its lies
Is what led to my suicide.

If only they had listened and understood
They might not be crying over my spilt blood.

438973 ▶▶ FiatLux, replying to FenTyger, 6, #633 of 1400 🔗

A new card sentiment from Clinton or something similar? Just wait for the “Congratulations On Your Jab” cards.

439123 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to FiatLux, 1, #634 of 1400 🔗

Please don’t give them ideas, that is just the sort of wokeish claptrap they’d embrace!

438984 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to FenTyger, 10, #635 of 1400 🔗

Two can play at that game:

If they had known,
They would have listened
If they had listened, they would have known

As loved ones suffer from cytokine storms
They have killed themselves and others
by recommending the jab

Now its me at their graveside
Family and friends now understand
That their pain and suffering
Was all part of the plan

If only they had listened
Life would now be grand.

Feel free to share.

439011 ▶▶ Portnadler, replying to FenTyger, 4, #636 of 1400 🔗

I think you are over-reacting. This is just primary school-age maudlin nonsense – nice to see in an eight year old but a bit alarming if the author is older. I’m not on Facebook but I get the impression that it is infantilised and infantilising.

I would be far more worried if the author had written something challenging. If that’s it, then our own battle is made easier.

439098 ▶▶ straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to FenTyger, 1, #637 of 1400 🔗

I ought to be a good sheeple,
And follow the rules like good people,
But I have a brain and can see through the train of propaganda and endless lies,
So I’ll go my own way, and ask you to stay, out of my way with your trys, To get me to take a jab for your sake, which does nothing for me except……. (writers block here, can anyone help?)

439118 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, 2, #638 of 1400 🔗

Make my arm ache?

439580 ▶▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to straightalkingyorkshireman, #639 of 1400 🔗

puts me on a path to my own demise

439114 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to FenTyger, 1, #640 of 1400 🔗

That’s got to be a classic. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

439158 ▶▶ Annie, replying to FenTyger, 4, #641 of 1400 🔗

If you didn’t know
It was because you were deaf, blind and above all, dumb, because the terror porn was dinned into you 24/7
If you’d had a single functioning neurone in your brain
you would have known you were being conned.

As loved ones struggle to escape living death now
It was you that conned them
And many more unknown

If it’s you
And your friends and family are banned from your graveside
You can blame the stupid rules
That made you into a zombie

If only you hadn’t been a spineless moron
I might not be saying ‘And good effing riddance.’

439519 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to FenTyger, 2, #642 of 1400 🔗

Hancock is as bad a poet as he is a Health Minister.

438930 iansn, replying to iansn, 14, #643 of 1400 🔗

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-what-its-like-living-in-a-village-with-142-rise-in-coronavirus-cases-12230898 are there people dying in the streets? Is the area about to collapse under the strain of this horrendous happening. 142% they say it must be really bad. Well no actually its 15 case in a population of 1000% this is the kind of shit Van Tam alluded to in his fiery speech about areas where it is out of control. Now a follow up horror story on Sky. FFS its like a Yemeni town had been blown to bits and all the women raped and the children stolen. No this is 15 fucking CASES!

439074 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to iansn, 4, #644 of 1400 🔗

Positive tests, not cases.
But I get your fury.

438950 isobar, replying to isobar, 17, #645 of 1400 🔗


Just when you thought the Government couldn’t stoop any lower in its coercion tactics to get people to have ‘the jab’
‘Ministers ‘plan a “Listen to Nan” vaccine campaign’ in bid to persuade young people to get coronavirus jabs’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9308859/Ministers-plan-Listen-Nan-vaccine-campaign.html

Mind you, doomed to fail if readers comments are anything to go by:

Best rated comment 109 upticks 5 downticks

So the flu jab isn’t compulsory and Covid has an 80% similarities according to government so why need it if your below 60 fit and healthy?

438959 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to isobar, 8, #646 of 1400 🔗

They are so bloody patronising, it’s sickening. It just shows what a low opinion they have of the mass of people….. though perhaps they’re right.

438970 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to isobar, 8, #647 of 1400 🔗

Nan will have blood on her hands when grandchildren suffer serious side effects.

On the other hand Nan might die happy and never knew she caused her grandchildren to suffer from long term adverse health effects or even death. Hey ho!

438993 ▶▶ Pebbles, replying to isobar, 17, #648 of 1400 🔗

Well… my nan point blank refused to have the vaccine at age 95, saying it’s nonsense that they could make a working Coronavirus vaccine in 9 months if they have never achieved this before… so ya dear GOV UK: I’ll listen to nan and will say NO THANK YOU.

439029 ▶▶ Janette, replying to isobar, 4, #649 of 1400 🔗

Yes just read the comments and great to see that people are starting to see through this disgusting debarcle.

439149 ▶▶ Annie, replying to isobar, 6, #650 of 1400 🔗

Nan isnmt there to be listened to. You killed her last year simply by existing, remember?

439195 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 4, #651 of 1400 🔗

I can tell you now that my nans, should they still be alive, wouldn’t give a sh*t about whether or not I’d had the vaccine.

And my mum, now Nan to a 6-yo, also wouldn’t give a sh*t.

439799 ▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to isobar, #652 of 1400 🔗

As a nan myself my advice is whatever the government says do the complete opposite

438955 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 33, #653 of 1400 🔗

David Attenborough is silent on microplastics from face masks polluting our environment. So is Greta Thunberg. Hypocrites.

https://twitter.com/DrBruceScott/status/1365287519349260292

439017 ▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Mic67, 9, #656 of 1400 🔗

That is really good. Fecking Greta Thunberg. A child prophet, used and abused by her fame-seeking parents, minor c list celebs, who mercliessly used her for their own financial gain. Exploiting their own daughter who is know to be on the Autistic spectrum.

Renting her out to the evil psychopathic anti-human cabal of global puppet masters.

A child-prophet of their new global religion, used to defelct any criticism for thier evil anti-human agenda.

Now poor old Greta is a grown up I wonder if she will ever come to the realisation that her life has been hijacked and she has been mercilessly used and abused.

I wonder what 30 year old Greta will say to the world?

Evil bastards.

439040 ▶▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Two-Six, 4, #657 of 1400 🔗

in 12 years time, like the rest of us, the 30 year old Greta won’t even exist – unless they decide to keep her on as some kind of talisman

439042 ▶▶▶▶ iansn, replying to Mic67, 2, #658 of 1400 🔗

thats one serious sick kid.

439085 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to iansn, 3, #659 of 1400 🔗

I kinda feel sorry for her, she’s been used & abused by all the adults in her life. She knows not what she says.

438962 ▶▶ DavidC, replying to Victoria, 5, #660 of 1400 🔗

Spot on Victoria. I read somewhere the other day about there being in the region of 1.65 billion disposed of masks. At a weight per mask of around 3.5 grams, that’s 5,775 metric tonnes or 6,366 tons of masks ALONE, let alone sanitiser waste, wipe waste etc.

DavidC

438982 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Victoria, 12, #661 of 1400 🔗

Attenborough is an establishment man always has been, his reputation undeserved, he does & always has followed the trend of the times, he started his environmentalist career catching rare wildlife for zoos! What happened to his snotty accent?

He has no integrity & never has had. I once saw him interviewed by a BBC reporter, who claimed transgender was “ evolution ” in progress, Attenborough looked a little shocked (at his stupidity) & sat back in his seat, paused (I thought he’s going to explain to the moron reporter biology) but he didn’t he just placated the liberal twat & carried on the interview.

438958 DavidC, 10, #662 of 1400 🔗

The Australian article by Steve Waterson in the main body above is a terrific piece of writing.

DavidC

438963 Victoria, 13, #663 of 1400 🔗

Contrary to media reports, COVID-19 vaccines do cause a paralyzing facial condition
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-02-27-covid-19-vaccines-caused-paralyzing-facial-condition.html

438968 Tom Blackburn, replying to Tom Blackburn, 9, #664 of 1400 🔗

Course they do…

The Guardian: Government seeks to retain lockdown limits on protests.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/28/government-seeks-to-retain-lockdown-limits-on-protests

439001 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Tom Blackburn, 5, #665 of 1400 🔗

Now why would that be I wonder? 😏

439131 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Bella Donna, 4, #666 of 1400 🔗

Well, you would think that they were busy creating such a wonderful utopia that nobody would even dream of protesting…

438972 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 6, #667 of 1400 🔗

This has interesting implications for the accuracy of the official C-19’case’ data and the claim that it is critical to test people even if they don’t have any COVID-19 symptoms. No fancy analysis here. Just the raw data from the Cambridge University study of asymptomatics

https://twitter.com/profnfenton/status/1365800645643694080

 Very interesting twitter thread incl comments.ONS grossly overstating incidence.

438975 ▶▶ swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 1, #668 of 1400 🔗

Also this

This report says 9,480 of 2,372,358 lateral flow tests in UK 28 Jan – 3 Feb were positive. Given false pos rate for these tests that’s about 1 in 1587 true positives. In same period ONS estimated UK infection rate was 1 in 77.

438999 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to swedenborg, 2, #669 of 1400 🔗

When unused swabs are testing positive (sorry I haven’t got the link, it was in the USA) I really do not see how this farce can carry on for much longer.

439034 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to swedenborg, 5, #670 of 1400 🔗

It’s been fairly obvious that the ONS in its infection survey have been overstating incidence for some time.

Firstly the ONS used to publish weekly ‘new infections’ which they measured as the point at which someone first tests positive after having followed the same people through over time. That their incidence rates, what they called ‘infections’ was a significant multiple of that number shows very clearly that they are including people who would test positive for a number of months in the ‘infection’ figure. It is only the ‘infection’ figure they publish now probably because this huge inconsistency was becoming embarrassing to them (they give an alternative explanation)

Secondly the ONS publish cycle thresholds and the 25% percentile for positive tests for the UK is currently a Ct value of 25.5. That means over three quarters of people testing positive have a Ct threshold above 25.5. Given that is widely recognised (even by SAGE) that high Ct Values (above 25) aren’t people who are infectious, then that implies at least three quarters of the reported ‘infections’ aren’t infectious.

Thirdly the ONS include people testing positive in the N gene only or the ORFa1b gene only in their positives (the S gene only isn’t counted as a positive). Both genes should be detectable in a genuinely infectious person (remembering that in the new variant only the S gene has mutated). Those testing positive in only a single gene associate strongly with those experiencing no symptoms.

In people with strong positives (Ct less than 30) only 50% in the ONS survey had experienced any symptoms in the 7 days before or after. It is likely that very few of the over 30 had symptoms. So perhaps around 25% of those with a positive test had any symptoms in the week before or after so they are genuinely asymptomatic positives (and not pre-symptomatic). As evidence strongly suggests asymptomatic transmission doesn’t happen or at the very least doesn’t drive transmission, again it is clear most ‘infections’ are not infectious. And bear in mind some symptoms might be caused by another virus, so that takes the 25% down even further.

So there is solid evidence approaching this from multiple directions that the absolute values of prevalence or ‘infections’ from the ONS survey is not just overstated but massively overstated (as in out by a significant multiple).

The ONS survey may have some limited value in measuring trends of truly ‘infectious’ people over time. So ‘infections’ or prevalence going up may indicate numbers of truly infectious people going up to some extent.

439121 ▶▶ RickH, replying to swedenborg, 3, #671 of 1400 🔗

I think the ONS has been caught in the fundamental dishonesty of the regime. I believe their good faith as an organization – but they have used the official definitions of ‘cases’/’infections’ promulgated by the health authorities and government, which definitions are outside their remit.

438979 BeBopRockSteady, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 9, #672 of 1400 🔗

Corona Anschluss: The WHO seems to be run as you would a mafia organisation

https://lbry.tv/@shortXXvids:e/Corruption-and-Criminality-at-Leadership-Level-of-the-WHO—Part-I:5

439083 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 1, #673 of 1400 🔗

It is Ausschuss.
Anschluss has a bit a negative feeling in connection with this.

439142 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Silke David, #674 of 1400 🔗

If I remember rightly, it meant the enslavement of Austria by the Nazis, while the Austrian people applauded hysterically.
Fits last March pretty well, don’t it?

439266 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Silke David, #675 of 1400 🔗

Woops. Correct. My German GCSE hasn’t stoop up well over time.

438986 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 10, #676 of 1400 🔗

Remember this from middle of last year:

Quotes from a university research paper into Covid-19 death reporting from June 2020 that confirms previous research:

“Currently COVID-associated deaths or excess deaths are used to track the impact of the virus. However these figures may be distorted as to record a COVID-associated death you require only weak evidence that COVID ‘may’ have contributed to the death, and counting excess deaths assumes that any variation in weekly mortality relative to a five year average represents ‘excess’ deaths due to COVID without taking into account other drivers of mortality.”

“Actual deaths due to COVID are some 54% or 63% lower than implied by the standard excess death measure, and reported excess deaths likely include a significant number of non-COVID deaths.”

“Over the lockdown period as a whole Government policy has increased mortality rather than reduced it. The overall increase in mortality is a result of significant unintended consequences of the lockdown, for example, reduced A and E attendances and reduced cancer and cardiac treatments.”

And from the ONS:

“The coronavirus (COVID-19) has had a large impact on the number of deaths registered over the last few months and is the main reason for deaths increasing above what is expected (the five-year average). The disease has had a larger impact on those most vulnerable (for example, those who already suffer from a medical condition) and those at older ages. Some of these deaths would have likely occurred over the duration of the year but have occurred earlier because of COVID-19. These deaths occurring earlier than expected could contribute to a period of deaths below the five-year average.”

All coming home to roost now as true.

439047 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to Awkward Git, 3, #677 of 1400 🔗

Just putting this up again:

From https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/921524/S0774_Influenza_infection_in_patients_hospitalised_with_COVID-19.pdf

20,076 of the 78,769 people in CO-CIN met the strict definition of community acquired SARI and were enrolled as confirmed or highly probable covid-19.

779 patients had influenza test data available, of these 138 (17.72%) tested positive for influenza.

Most positive flu tests were in March and April 2020

Patients who received an influenza test were more likely to have already been admitted to a critical care unit during their stay.

19,297 people of the 20,076 were not tested for Flu.

438987 Pebbles, replying to Pebbles, 6, #678 of 1400 🔗

Not sure if this has been posted as I haven’t read the news update (I don’t bother anymore)…

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2021/02/peter-hitchens-ive-had-the-covid-jab-and-all-it-cost-me-was-my-freedom.html

Maybe time to admit to ourselves how many are actually controlled opposition rather than real rebels and willing to take a stand…

*Update: yes it was posted. Apologies. I don’t spend much time on the LS updates anymore I find them too cumbersome.

438997 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Pebbles, 5, #679 of 1400 🔗

I’m very surprised at Hitchens, another hero who succumbed to the dark side.

439004 ▶▶▶ J4mes, replying to Bella Donna, 2, #680 of 1400 🔗

I’m not surprised at all. He’s been peddling the idea lockdown/restrictions are a political mistake from the beginning. The comments section of his blog (with the exception of comments from a few regular lockdown fanatics) has far more value than PH’s posts.

439021 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Pebbles, 13, #681 of 1400 🔗

I think Toby Young has served his purpose, outlived his usefulness, and it’s time to move on from that. His starting point was as a critic of the government: in the spirit of ‘constructive criticism’ – basically, he wished it well, he just felt it was making some terrible mistakes. He resisted the brainwashing – no mean feat in the present climate, I admit- but he never identified himself as an enemy of the state. I don’t think he has moved far beyond that starting position, while I think many of us on here are now way, way past that. I am beyond being a critic of the government – I want to see them overthrown, and brought to justice, and facing the harshest of penalties. They have long ago overstepped the boundaries of a legitimate government, and in my eyes they are now a regime gone rogue.

439106 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #682 of 1400 🔗

‘Overthrowing’ the government is (a) beside the point and (b) unlikely in the present state of pubic opinion. No point in pipe dreams.

Which is, indeed, a confession of not knowing much beyond the need for philosophical rebellion (see Camus) and such practical opposition as is practical (forget meaningless gestures).

No, overthrowing the government will merely substitute one establishment front with another. The real point is establishing a real (as opposed to illusory) constitutional legal framework that protects the individual against an overweening state (as key an objective for a libertarian socialist whatever term you use as for any free market enthusiast – see Orwell ).

That has been the real lesson – the tearing away of various illusions about democracy and freedom that have disguised the true nature of the myths about our addled, past-sell-by-date illiberal ‘parliamentary’ monarchy.

439036 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Pebbles, 6, #683 of 1400 🔗

It’s quite simple : some people have taken the vaccine in the belief that such an action will bring back freedom – both personally and communally.

The irony, of course, is that the government immediately stamped on such logical notions.

439174 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to RickH, 3, #684 of 1400 🔗

So now they realise they were duped they want the rest of us to be mandatorily jabbed

439208 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Bella Donna, 1, #685 of 1400 🔗

No. ‘They’ don’t come to that conclusion.

Casting people you disagree with as hypocritical devils doesn’t help.

439175 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to RickH, 1, #686 of 1400 🔗

I have noted that elsewhere.

439177 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, 1, #687 of 1400 🔗

That was the biggest part of the fraud, I’m still stunned the likes of TY & PH bought into it.

439000 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Bella Donna, #689 of 1400 🔗

Yes that’s great

438995 J4mes, replying to J4mes, 14, #690 of 1400 🔗

Perhaps not directly related to lockdown (though I absolutely believe it forms part of the overall globalist plan) I suppose I really shouldn’t have been surprised to wake up today to the news that WB are actively working towards a reboot of Superman as a black man.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/26/superman-reboot-planned-by-j-j-abrams-ta-nehisi-coates/

Surely at this point, where we now have a black girl ‘Iron Man’, a black Spider Man, a female Captain Marvel, A black Bat Woman, etc, even the apathetic public can see that this is a visual ethnic cleansing of white male super heroes?

Those characters who have yet to be replaced by black people/females have had their latest movies depict them as weak and comedy canon fodder, as we saw in painstaking detail in Thor: Ragnarok. And now apparently Thor himself has been replaced as a female in the latest movie in development.

This, while the “powers that be” push hard as hell to replace the ultimate heterosexual male super hero, James Bond, with either a black man or black woman.

To be clear, I have absolutely no quarrels with black/female super heroes. One of my favourite characters is Spawn, and who can say they didn’t like Super Gran? What I do object to is my cultural heroes being racially erased.

439002 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to J4mes, -8, #691 of 1400 🔗

Please stop this irrelevant crap. This is supposed to be about Lockdown scepticism.

439009 ▶▶▶ J4mes, replying to Bungle, 22, #692 of 1400 🔗

I don’t see you complaining about the ‘Woke Gobbledegook’ section ABL. And no, I will not be censored on a website that celebrates freedom of speech, whether it upsets you or not.

439024 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to J4mes, 7, #693 of 1400 🔗

Good on ya. he’s a lefty anyway so has no respect for other peoples opinions.

439031 ▶▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Anti_socialist, -6, #694 of 1400 🔗

A bit sad to define yourself by a negative … but appropriate.

439037 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ J4mes, replying to RickH, 5, #695 of 1400 🔗

Why are you being so insulting and aggressive, Rick?

439065 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to J4mes, 5, #696 of 1400 🔗

He’s always that way, ignore him.

439025 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to J4mes, -8, #697 of 1400 🔗

You’re not being ‘censored’. Just told that your post is irrelevant, distracting garbage that is meat and drink for the likes of 77th Brigade who wish to portray this site as a zone for idiots.

439035 ▶▶▶▶▶ J4mes, replying to RickH, 13, #698 of 1400 🔗

Being aggressively told not to talk about a certain subject is a form of censorship. It’s the same as the non-platform movement sweeping through college and university against anyone who tries to raise debate against the globalist narrative.

And who granted you the role of deciding what we talk about here?

439168 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to J4mes, -4, #699 of 1400 🔗

You sound just like one of the self-pitying ‘woke’ proponents : easily offended by a bit of ‘telling it as it is”. 🙂

439227 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ J4mes, replying to RickH, #700 of 1400 🔗

More insults Rick? Tell me what gives you the position of power to dictate what I can talk about. If you and Bungle are offended by my comment or simply believe it is irrelevant (while not acknowledging a ‘Woke Gobbledegook’ section is updated daily ATL), flag the comment for the moderators. It’ll be a test to see how much they support freedom of speech.

439067 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, 5, #701 of 1400 🔗

site as a zone for idiots.

You’re certainly in the right place then. 😉

439165 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Anti_socialist, -2, #702 of 1400 🔗

Yes – I’ve always been interested in a bit of anthropological research.

439214 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to RickH, 2, #703 of 1400 🔗

That’s what the internet’s for, apparently 90% of its porn, but you let the cat out bag there with your confession 😉

439020 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Bungle, 6, #704 of 1400 🔗

Have you heard of free speech?

439061 ▶▶▶ Norman, replying to Bungle, 3, #705 of 1400 🔗

And I thought it was for sceptics during lockdown, with the emphasis on scepticism.

439018 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to J4mes, 11, #706 of 1400 🔗

You raise a valid point, whilst some may accuse you of being off-topic or worse, it is all interlinked with the same agenda as the pandemic. Control of the masses, its brainwashing propaganda. Social engineering to indoctrinate the little people into the globalist ideology.

Same with identity politics, climate change, Covid-19, lock step with common purpose, that purpose is one world governance! We’re being manipulated into their agenda of total control by technocrat puppets for a self-appointed elite, who have nothing but contempt for us & treat us like infantile livestock..

439059 ▶▶▶ J4mes, replying to Anti_socialist, 10, #707 of 1400 🔗

Agreed. I’ve said from the beginning that political correctness, which began to really grip from the early 2000’s, was implemented to condition the populations of civilised nations around the world in preparation for what we’re now experiencing. Rick and Bungle can screech and cry all they like about how that sounds to the mainstream zombies, but I will not be stopped from talking about it.

439076 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to J4mes, 4, #708 of 1400 🔗

They’re socialists, so a big globalist utopia is their wet dream, I just ignore them, giving them attention is like facilitating an orgasm, they’re best not encouraged with debate. Leftists have no interest in freedom anyway.

I’m sometimes like to stir the pot though, Rick is an easy wind up. 😉

438998 davews, replying to davews, 29, #709 of 1400 🔗

Just back from our weekly church Zoom service. I seem to be more and more detached from my own church than I have ever been. The rest are so taken in by the official narrative that I hardly dare open my mouth. Last time the woman doing the prayers of intercession prayed for those who flout the rules. Today it was those who are refusing vaccines. Was not impressed by the message either, not sure why I even bother to attend, but if I don’t I get emails asking if I am OK.

Not sure if others feel like I do, but Zoom and other online things just don’t gel with me. I have just been reading my Engineering intitution magazine, talking about their 150th anniversary, various honorary fellows, council meetings and other things and it was not immediately obvious that all these things had been done online. There is a now tacit assumption that we shall be doing absolutely everything online now till kingdom come. I refuse to accept this.

439006 ▶▶ Ed Phillips, replying to davews, 7, #710 of 1400 🔗

Why is your church closed?

Why aren’t you attending a church that is open?

439014 ▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Ed Phillips, 12, #711 of 1400 🔗

A church with closed doors, is an oxymoronic paradox. What it isn’t, is a church!

439019 ▶▶▶▶ Ed Phillips, replying to Jinks, 6, #712 of 1400 🔗

I agree.
Just back from church myself.

Utterly mystified why a church would volunterily close its doors.

439130 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Ed Phillips, 11, #713 of 1400 🔗

No mystery if all its clergy and most of its congregation are spineless cowards who don’t believe a word of the Christian message.

439145 ▶▶▶▶ Basileus, replying to Jinks, #714 of 1400 🔗

Yes, the word ’ecclesia’ means assembly.

439141 ▶▶▶ davews, replying to Ed Phillips, 6, #715 of 1400 🔗

Sadly that all the regulars are scared stiff of the dreaded virus. The minister knows churches can hold services but they just don’t and assume everybody can enjoy this ‘miracle’ of Zoom. I shall be letting them know my views sometime soon in case they don’t know already.

439129 ▶▶ Annie, replying to davews, 13, #716 of 1400 🔗

I have never attended a Zoom pseudochurch and I never will.

Shared outdoor sung Matins this morning with a couple of loiterers, four friendly joggers, a crowd of seagulls, and all the hosts of Heaven. The sky for a roof and the sun for a candle. That’s how it will stay until every trace of Covid filth has been scrubbed off our faith.

439003 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 20, #717 of 1400 🔗

Just had an illegal cuddle … with a ten week old cocker spaniel. Just for a few minutes, the horror that *they* have imposed went away!

439028 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to kh1485, 13, #718 of 1400 🔗

I had a chat with a lovely little Labrador puppy yesterday. First time out in the world…Awwwwww
That absolutely made my day.

439033 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Two-Six, 6, #719 of 1400 🔗

Awwww, indeed. Simple things eh?

439071 ▶▶ alw, replying to kh1485, 4, #720 of 1400 🔗

Some weeks ago I had a cuddle with a doctor who was wearing scrubs. I am still alive.

439080 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to alw, 2, #721 of 1400 🔗

But, but, COVID hangs around on clothes – it is dangerous! /sarc

439119 ▶▶ Annie, replying to kh1485, 6, #722 of 1400 🔗

Dogs are bullshit-proof.
Though some are very drawn to cowshit, particularly Springer Spaniels in my experience.

439511 ▶▶▶ mikec, replying to Annie, #723 of 1400 🔗

Couldn’t believe it when my springer eat rabbit shit in the park. LOL.

439126 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to kh1485, 5, #724 of 1400 🔗

Five minutes later the puppy phoned the police and reported you. For vigilance must not be relaxed!

439182 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to kh1485, 2, #725 of 1400 🔗

I encourage as many kids as possible to stroke and cuddle my (now rather adolescent) puppy. I think it’s why I had so many colds in the autumn! Great for the immune system.

439007 RickH, replying to RickH, 15, #726 of 1400 🔗

The report from Australia by Steve Waterson rang loud bells with this in particular :

I suspect the catastrophe is rather the consequence of years of hollowing out the political class, the relentless, self-perpetuating promotion of game-playing mediocrities who lack the wit and imagination to deal with a fluid, complex problem. They might have slick presentation skills and a glib facility with words, but would any of them command respect in any other field?”

Having known three generations of MP in one constituency, I fear that this is one of the key causes of the ‘pandemic’, with ‘mediocrities’ coming to dominate after the turn of the millenium.

439026 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to RickH, 17, #727 of 1400 🔗

There’s an analogy in the rise of Managerialism over the last 20 years. The MBA crowd who think that a manager can be dropped into any situation and they’ll “manage” well.

That management is for the most part an abstract concept applicable anywhere.

Reality is that this thinking failed before it even started. Yes there are general concepts but proper and good management requires knowledge and experience of what you are managing.

439161 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to mhcp, 5, #728 of 1400 🔗

There’s that – but the bane of my working life was the rise of ‘accountants’ – way out of proportion to practitioners. The fact that this was not just perception was well confirmed by international comparisons.

439278 ▶▶▶ richardw53, replying to mhcp, 4, #729 of 1400 🔗

And also there is a widespread myth that anyone can be trained to be a manager.

439008 Derek Toyne, replying to Derek Toyne, 19, #730 of 1400 🔗

I saw Peter Hitchins comment about why he had the vaccine I believe he’s correct in saying he had it for purely selfish reasons,so he could travel in the future. To me the vaccine passports are another idea based on bad science. If vaccine passports were a good idea we would already have them for flu we don’t because flu mutates just like covid does. So even though your vaccinated there’s no guarantee your not going to get the latest covid mutant.
As for the queen saying people should think of others maybe she should think of the people who been vaccinated and now have heart problems. For example the US soldier in his 30s who now as chest pains and is wondering if he’ll reach his 40s without having a heart attack. At the end of the day having a vaccine should be based on one’s health and the benefit it provides. So a 90 year old should not be telling those under 70 without health problems to take an experimental vaccine.

439015 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Derek Toyne, 19, #731 of 1400 🔗

I wish some would get it into their thick heads that there is no universal demand from the 70+ contingent for universal vaccination – myself being an illustration of those who think it’s an even more dubious procedure for the vulnerable.

439068 ▶▶▶ alw, replying to RickH, 3, #732 of 1400 🔗

Ask yourself why Prince Philip is in hospital!

439139 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to alw, 2, #733 of 1400 🔗

Why would I bother?

439044 ▶▶ happychappy, replying to Derek Toyne, 13, #734 of 1400 🔗

The simple fact that there is no data into the long-term effects of the vaccines is irrefutable. Even if those who refuse the jab are dismissed as foolish, this one fact alone cannot be disputed. And it is more than enough on it’s own to justify concern. In my opinion it is almost criminally negligent to dismiss this as a legitimate concern.

439397 ▶▶▶ Derek Toyne, replying to happychappy, 2, #735 of 1400 🔗

I agree for the vast majority there’s no benefit in taking a vaccine. I believe most are advertised as 94% effective but when you consider 99.9% of the population is uninfected and everyone as 98% survival rate I really wonder why.
When I consider these vaccines have not been around long enough to be properly tested for long term effects you come away thinking the people pushing these vaccines are either mad or bad.

439046 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Derek Toyne, 16, #736 of 1400 🔗

I’ve been trying all morning not to get drawn into the Hitchens debacle, but I’ve lost all discipline to do so now, I made this comment further down a few minutes ago, I’ll bring it to the top.

To take or not take the vaccine is a personal choice & what ever that choice it should be respected. Except he didn’t keep it personal did he, he advertised it to the world, why?

To encourage others to do the same, so fuck him, he’s a sell out & a coward, not worth listening to any more. We now know how Hitchens would have crumbled if the Nazis came looking for collaborators & snitches. Hitch the Snitch, well deserved of cunt of the week!

I was getting rather board of him anyway, but the seriousness of mandatory vaccines mustn’t be underestimated the man is a collaborator & traitor.

439120 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Anti_socialist, 7, #737 of 1400 🔗

The comments are up on his blog and they are not complimentary.
Judas,sellout,disgusted are some of them.

439138 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to jonathan Palmer, 6, #738 of 1400 🔗

Why in earth did he ‘fess up when he didn’t have to?Scared of bring outed? Who by? Scared of coming under pressure to denounce the snake oil?

439135 ▶▶▶ Paul, replying to Anti_socialist, 7, #739 of 1400 🔗

As time has moved on I’ve become tired of hearing him say the same thing every week,he does a lot of talking but has never actually made any difference to the situation.To me he has just been mild and tolerated,by the regime,opposition to the narrative,he has never seemed to be a true sceptic to me.
He’s become a bit too fond of the sound of his own voice.I doubt he has been financially affected by this shitshow at all,he’s always been careful not to bite the hand that feeds him.

439051 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Derek Toyne, 16, #740 of 1400 🔗

Queenie can F off. As can the rest of them. As if they’ve spent one single second of the last year or their whole lives in any kind of discomfort. The only difficulty is that it may have made their extra marital affairs and perversions more tricky.

439268 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 1, #741 of 1400 🔗

Old saying, SBC is that the “upper classes” Fu×k all year and share the babbies (babies) out at Christmas.

439075 ▶▶ kate, replying to Derek Toyne, 5, #742 of 1400 🔗

Covid19 does not mutate in the way that flu does. Flu changes its outer coat annually, this is why it evades immune recognition.
Covid19 is much larger than influenza, has a much larger genome with proof reading capacity, so it can correct mutation errors. It has only mutated about 0.2% of its genome in a year. The coronaviruses are relatively stable viruses, the common cold viruses are not in the main coronaviruses but rhinoviruses and adenoviruses,. which do mutate more.

All this talk of mutations is bullshit.

439423 ▶▶▶ Derek Toyne, replying to kate, #743 of 1400 🔗

The point of my comment is why have vaccine passports for covid but not flu which mutates so much more. I believe it’s all about terrifying everyone to get vaccinated.
The AZ is useless against the SA varient so who knows if your vaccine will protect in the future.

439088 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Derek Toyne, 17, #744 of 1400 🔗

I really do not understand why these people who are concerned about not being able to travel just wait a year or two.
IF, and it is a very big IF, it should come to it, then they have time to get it 6 weeks or so before their travel date at their GP or pharmacy, like an “ordinary” vaccine.
So why the rush to take something which has been proven to be more deadly than vaccines which were properly tested and licensed?

439148 ▶▶▶ rose, replying to Silke David, 3, #745 of 1400 🔗

Exactly.

439151 ▶▶▶ matt, replying to Silke David, 6, #746 of 1400 🔗

Up to and including February 2020, my job had me travelling abroad, mostly in Continental Europe and North America, but also elsewhere roughly every other week. I think it’s very unlikely that this will be as frequent when such things are allowed again, but I would expect it still to be a pretty frequent requirement. If I can’t travel, I can’t stay employed. Any other job I could realistically move to without seriously reducing my family’s standard of living would have at least some need to go to another country at least several times a year. Have I been able to do my job for the last 12 months from my home office? Yes. Does this mean I will be able to do it exclusively from my home office once international travel becomes allowed? No.

So, much as I bitterly resent it, I’m faced with a choice of having the bloody thing or losing my livelihood.

I don’t have a particularly strong opinion about the efficacy or safety of these jabs and I won’t until I’ve seen some decent evidence in either direction. But I do think it’s completely unnecessary for me to take it and so ordinarily I wouldn’t. And the fact that I’m being so clearly cajoled and coerced into taking it makes me even more reluctant than I would be otherwise. But it doesn’t change the fact that it’s hard to see how I’m going to have any choice.

439187 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Silke David, 9, #747 of 1400 🔗

I’m resigned to not travelling abroad this year and possibly next. I don’t think this vaccine passport is as cut and dried as they are making out.

439429 ▶▶▶ Derek Toyne, replying to Silke David, #748 of 1400 🔗

Agree this year we were hoping to go away abroad so will wait to see what happens.As you say no need to rush and get a vaccine when no one knows long term effects.

439134 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Derek Toyne, 6, #749 of 1400 🔗

Let’s call them what they are: Social Control Permits . The state will maintain social control through a permit system allowing people to do x if they meet criteria y and z. It’s wrong to think this will be confined to health-related matters. It could easily be extended to all sorts of things e.g. maybe if you’ve been banned from 3 or more defined social media sites, you will be considered an anti-social element and you won’t be allowed to use the internet at all. Maybe you will have to log in your permit number before you use any site. The possibilities are endless and there will always be an argument that extending the permit scheme “makes us safer”.

439023 happychappy, replying to happychappy, 20, #750 of 1400 🔗

Looks like the process of marginalisation of the ‘vaccine-hesitant’ has commenced in earnest.

Made a big mistake this morning. Lovely day, walk down to my local shop to buy a paper and read it over a relaxing cuppa. I picked up The Mail, something I haven’t done for a long time and immediately wished I hadn’t. The euphoria over the success of the vaccine rollout was akin to when we were awarded the Olympics! Boris ratings have soared over his roadmap (unsurprisingly!) and the vaccine is being hailed as a wonder of modern science. The first 17 pages are full of it. And this includes several articles, under the banner of ‘Stop the Vaccine Lies’, criticising those who won’t take it. With a depressing lack of investigative analysis, those who are reluctant (including a Senior Consultant at a major London hospital) are dismissed as weak, easily-led and influenced by high-profile figures on social media. We clearly do not have the ability to rationalise the risks for ourselves. The impression is of a jubilant, united nation for whom the jab has opened up a bright sunny 2021, with a miserable cohort of ‘anti-vaxxers’ threatening the possibility of ending lockdown.

Get this quote, for example:

“The survey reflects anecdotal evidence that the vaccine produces discernible side effects in many people but usually only mild ones: 40 per cent of those who have had the jab said they had experienced effects, but only two per cent had ‘major’s reactions”

Two per cent? Isn’t that about the same percentage as those who suffer serious effects of covid, the vast majority of whom go on to make a full recovery? Two per cent major reaction to covid = bad; two per cent major reaction to the vaccine = good!

Now really depressed. I try to remain positive but this is only going one way. We are being led by ignorance, where perfectly legitimate, rational questioning and concern is dismissed as conspiracy theory.

439027 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to happychappy, 10, #751 of 1400 🔗

No death rate for covid is around 0.03%!?!

439055 ▶▶ merlin, replying to happychappy, 16, #752 of 1400 🔗

The official narrative is collapsing . I read the MoS propaganda pieces as further evidence of desperation from the vaxseen salespeople.

439039 Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 24, #753 of 1400 🔗

I am going out revel in the sunshine and mingle with the crowds that are hopefully breaking the law down in the park today. I am going to take some sarnies and bottle or two of home brew Stout which I am going drink sitting on a bench. Hopefully within less than two meters of another rule breakin reveller.

If I am really lucky I will get to meet a covid womble!

439054 ▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Two-Six, 14, #754 of 1400 🔗

Get in practice for the EASTER UPRISING. Stay out there in the sun for hours, have a picnic, play footy, stretch the state thug police force to its limits.

439072 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 4, #755 of 1400 🔗

Only 105 years after the first one 😉

439041 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 8, #756 of 1400 🔗

There are talks in Israel of reinstating lockdown. The below quotation from the leading figures in advocating vaccine in Israel,now stating officially that they may not be that effective without continuing LD and SD.(caveat google translation fro Hebrew)

 https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1365994133991661568/photo/

439060 ▶▶ merlin, replying to swedenborg, 4, #757 of 1400 🔗

So even if we pretend that it is a true vaccine them it is useless at best.

439082 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to merlin, 8, #758 of 1400 🔗

As the German doctor at Achgut has stated yesterday after analyzing the data from Israel: like in the trials, the absolute risk reduction is minimal, well under 1%, and it concerns reducing the chance of getting mild symptoms only!
There is zero effect on hospitalisations and deaths through the vaccines which could be derived from the Israeli data.
Zero.
As expected/in the trials.

439100 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to swedenborg, 5, #759 of 1400 🔗

I like the translation of social distancing into social alienation

439262 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to swedenborg, 3, #760 of 1400 🔗

If they go back into lockdown that really has to be the ultimate admission of failure.

439045 ElizaP, replying to ElizaP, 4, #761 of 1400 🔗

To the poster querying the Bill Gates shortie video re removing the God gene – I’ve checked it out again and they’ve censored it off YouTube again. It’s called “Pentagon briefing: Removing the God gene” and I’d think/am feeling pretty sure it can be found on Bitchute or the like.

439049 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to ElizaP, #762 of 1400 🔗

EDIT; Just done a quick Google (on Bing search engine) and it came up again – on YouTube. Looks like some more people have been putting it back up again.

439056 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to ElizaP, 5, #763 of 1400 🔗

Check out James Corbett (Corbett report) I recall him debunking the authenticity of that video & if James Corbett says its fake it must be, only because of his known criticism (under statement) of Gates.

439184 ▶▶▶▶ Seansaighdeoir, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #764 of 1400 🔗

He doesn’t debunk it – he merely calls ‘conspiracy theorist’ to it which is a bit ironic coming from James Corbett. It is the first time I have questioned him because the info in that video is plain to see. You only have to watch to understand what they are saying but for some reason it triggers Corbett.

I have watched a lot of his stuff but always have that video in the back of mind now when I watch his latest stuff.

439210 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 1, #765 of 1400 🔗

He did categorically say it was fake. Personally I’m not & never have been a Corbett fan.

439066 ▶▶ Truth Seeker, replying to ElizaP, #766 of 1400 🔗

They are claiming that it is not Bill Gates in the Video – see here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-gates-fundamentalists-penta-idUSKBN22P35M

439053 Ozzie, replying to Ozzie, 5, #767 of 1400 🔗

On Simon Dolan’s twitter account he shows a picture of a Daily Mail article entitled “Deaths falsely blamed on pandemic: The scandal grows” which was published yesterday (27/2). there does not seem to have been any mention of the article on LS and I can’t find it on the DM website. Have others seen this article and, if so, please could you post a link? Thanks.

439058 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Ozzie, 1, #768 of 1400 🔗

Think LS linked to it yesterday in Round-up section.

439124 ▶▶▶ Ozzie, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #769 of 1400 🔗

Thanks for your response – I cannot see the article being mentioned in the Round-up on either Friday or Saturday (however, I may be missing something).

Eventually found it via another article, so posting the link here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9305405/Grieving-relatives-demand-inquiry-loved-ones-wrongly-certified-virus-victims.html

The “indepth investigation” is further down the page.

439063 kate, replying to kate, 28, #770 of 1400 🔗

A relative of mine has told me that her housemate has been ill in bed ever since she had the covid vaccine. The last news was that after seven days the lady had called emergency services and was being assessed by paramedics.

This is terribly sad, as the person concerned was perfectly fit beforehand.

439073 ▶▶ Cecil B, replying to kate, 5, #771 of 1400 🔗

How old?

439127 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to kate, 14, #772 of 1400 🔗

A relative of mine has had severe sinus pain and sleeplessness symptoms since receiving the vaccine. It’s not a medical crisis. But she was pretty healthy before that. She was one of the relatives who experienced v Covid like symptoms in late 2019 – something we’ve discussed here (lots of people reporting persistent dry cough that lasted for weeks in that late Autumn 2019 period). Does the body think it’s been reinfected? This might be quite confusing for the immune system. Whatever you think of vaccination people who were “OK” being made “not OK” cannot be described as medicine or a health procedure. It’s mass doping with statistical outcomes.

439505 ▶▶ mikec, replying to kate, 5, #773 of 1400 🔗

My wife’s 72yr old aunt was completely knocked off her feet, literally. She came home passed out and smashed her face against the corner of table. Doctor refused to speak to her for 4 days all of which she spent in bed with what she described as dreadful vertigo. Fit and healthy up until that moment now housebound, getting frailer each day. Tried to talk them out of it but they are 100% fully blown driveway clappers.

439064 Cecil B, replying to Cecil B, 24, #774 of 1400 🔗

The dictators are saying they are still in charge

In reality their Stasi are leaving the streets, they know it is over

This is what downfall looks like

439079 ▶▶ Ross Hendry, replying to Cecil B, 20, #775 of 1400 🔗

Correct. Due in no small measure I suspect to their realisation that Reiner Fuellmich and his Corona Committee are after them with their Nuremberg2 hearings and class action lawsuits.

They’re trying to look honourable as they retreat of course. Too late.

439081 ▶▶ merlin, replying to Cecil B, 25, #776 of 1400 🔗

I live on a main(ish) road. Today feels like the busiest sunday for road traffic since last march. Thousands of cyclists, walkers and runners have passed by my house, not a mask in sight. These are real humans going about their business and and a big F U to the covid fraudsters.

439206 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to merlin, 10, #777 of 1400 🔗

Agreed Merlin.
Not thousands but certainly hundreds have gone thought our “smallish” town and even our local bakery/cafe (takeaways only of course) has reopened on a Sunday for the first time since the latest lockdown.

439069 JayBee, replying to JayBee, 21, #778 of 1400 🔗

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/if-this-isnt-a-presidential-speech-i-dont-know-what-is

This is how a true leader dealt and would have dealt with Covid, take note Doris.
Hopefully, she will be the next POTUS.
With DeSantis as her running mate and successor, the USA could be the place to be after the illegal Biden/Harris sh*tshow has ended, likely in a catastrophe though.

439086 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to JayBee, 14, #779 of 1400 🔗

Love the bit at 4 mins 20 secs where she says Fauci told her they would have 10,000 patients in hospital. On their worst day they had a little over 600.

439070 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 16, #780 of 1400 🔗

Lockdown is over if you want it.

439090 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to bebophaircut, 8, #781 of 1400 🔗

And so this is lockdown,
What has it achieved?
Not even a hundredth
Of what the sheeple believed.

And so this is lockdown
You’re not allowed fun
No near ones or dear ones
Save the old, not the young.

A very hellish lockdown
No family, no schools,
It seems like the sheeple
Have been taken for fools.

Lockdown’s over if you want it… etc

439192 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to OKUK, 3, #782 of 1400 🔗

Good ol’ John Lennon. Bless him wherever he is.

439077 Fear is Finite, replying to Fear is Finite, 48, #783 of 1400 🔗

A suggestion for ATL. How about focusing some articles on the hero’s of the alternative debate, rather than banging on about the useless main players in government and in “the science”.

I wasn’t naturally a sceptic. In March 2020 we actually went into quarantine 2 weeks before the country because we had the plague in our house (we assume, no tests back then). But we were happy to observe time-honoured policies of quarantining the sick, especially since so little was known about the virus at that point. The youngest member of my house was very unwell for at least a month, and all my energy went into worrying about that, I was largely oblivious to the wider situation. In the end we were all fine, having no one in the known risk groups in our number.

I’m interested in health and was a long time reader of Dr Malcolm Kendrick’s excellent blog. I employed an arsenal of vitamins on my family to help us through our situation and I obviously believe it helped, although I have no reason to think we wouldn’t have been OK regardless.

Dr Kendrick first blogged about Covid on 18th March 2020, and he’s been blogging about it since. His blogs stand up valiantly to the test of time. He wrote about QALYS on 29th March 2020, a post that would probably have him burnt at the stake in 2021. A quote from that article:

“I know that many people will violently disagree with this analysis and will think I am some cold-hearted fiend. ‘People are dying, we must do absolutely everything we can. No matter how much it costs.’ ‘What would you say if it was your mother…’ and suchlike.

Well, I have spoking to my mother, who is 92. Her view is that she has lived long enough. She thinks the Government actions are a ridiculous over-reaction. She is going out shopping and chatting to friends… she will take no advice on the matter.”

There are so many other salient quotes, like this from 11th May 2020:

“The main thing that went wrong, I believe, was a failure to understand that hospitals would become the vectors for COVID, the epicentres for the infection. We – the hospitals, the decisions taken by the NHS managers with their clipboards – spread the disease, especially among the elderly vulnerable in care homes. A disease that we were trying to stop… killing the elderly and vulnerable.”

On the “Mad Modellers” 19th May 2020:

“But no, it turns out it is an actual thing. ‘The science’. Boris keeps it in number ten Downing Street, and they share a cup of tea in the afternoon, along with a few jammy dodgers. Luckily ‘The Science’ is immune to COVID, so social distancing is not required. The Science also, probably, moves in mysterious ways.

“The science moves in a mysterious way
Its wonders to perform
It plants its footsteps in the sea
And rides upon the storm”

To be a little more serious, what is the science that is leading them. Mathematical models? Models that change and swirl and have little basis in reality. Models used to create predictions. As a friend has remarked to me many times: “there are two types of prediction – lucky and lousy”.

Our lives, our economy, our health service, all those people no longer getting treatment for other conditions, the heart attack patients not turning up at hospital, the cancelled cancer treatments, thousands of small businesses sacrificed at the altar of a mathematical model created by the mad modellers of the lockdown. Our lives, in their hands.”

I could go on, that’s only up to May 2020. I was led to Ivor Cummings’ September viral update via the BTL comments on Dr Kendrick’s blog, and from there into the full sceptic world. We really needed these people then, and we need them more than ever now. So let’s give them some editorial space and showcase how right they have been. I don’t want to hear another word from Funguson.

439099 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Fear is Finite, 7, #784 of 1400 🔗

Absolutely.

439102 ▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to Fear is Finite, 7, #785 of 1400 🔗

agree

439104 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Fear is Finite, 22, #786 of 1400 🔗

Excellent post. The ATL editorial content sometimes reads like mainstream Telegraph stuff. Carping from the sidelines, rather than advancing the sceptical cause in robust fashion.

The people have been frightened out of their wits for no good cause. They have been lied to time and time again by Government, NHS, Public Health agencies and the mainstream media about everything: the number of deaths, symptoms, superspreaders, who’s at real risk, how Covid deaths relate to excess deaths, mask efficacy, transmission routes, mutations, vaccine efficacy, vaccine risks to health, digital passports (ie social control permits), what alternatives there are to lockdown and many, many other things.

The guilty people need to be held to account.

The heroes need to be celebtrated.

And, above all, we need to reclaim ALL our pre-Covid freedoms.

439203 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to OKUK, 8, #787 of 1400 🔗

… we need to reclaim ALL our pre-Covid freedoms.

And many other forgotten freedoms that have been stolen from us over the past century.

439107 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Fear is Finite, 8, #788 of 1400 🔗

Dr Kendrick has been great. If you looked at QALYs you would never lockdown (not that you should anyway). Which is why its rarely mentioned. I mentioned it in the email to my MP before lockdown 1 then never heard it mentioned again for about 6 months.

439188 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Fear is Finite, 2, #789 of 1400 🔗

Predictions are not scientically generated, they are computer generated. They do not follow/adhere to a rigourous, scientific method. It’s Public Health style bullshit.

439501 ▶▶ mikec, replying to Fear is Finite, 1, #790 of 1400 🔗

Well put.

439093 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 11, #791 of 1400 🔗

A lot of work went into the pandemic response plan that we threw in the bin when an actual pandemic came along

At some stage they will have to design a new pandemic response plan

I wonder whether the new plan will be

1) the old plan

2) just a sentence ‘whatever Piers Morgan shrieks for’

3) lockdown at the first opportunity

etc

439167 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to steve_w, 3, #792 of 1400 🔗

I’m willing to bet it will be 3) as hard and tight and early as possible, and for as long as possible, with release only upon zero cases and the appearance of a vaccine – mandatory of course.

439205 ▶▶ DavidC, replying to steve_w, 1, #793 of 1400 🔗

Which plan? The Event 201 plan?

DavidC

439094 CivilianNotCovidian, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 55, #794 of 1400 🔗

Postcard from Clapham Common… no masks, no antisocial distancing, no dumb signs, no coppers, lots of kids playing sports, outdoor gym being used… packed with picnics and coffees in every direction. Verdict: LOCKDOWN IS OVER!
Government: 0
People: 1

439095 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 14, #795 of 1400 🔗

Let my people go…for a walk…in the sunshine…with some mates…possibly sit down with our coffees or maybe a few beers.

439103 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 3, #796 of 1400 🔗

Wait for the government to force the vaxx passport on the populace!

439108 ▶▶▶ merlin, replying to TheClone, 7, #797 of 1400 🔗

It won’t happen.

439113 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to merlin, 10, #798 of 1400 🔗

First, they’ll give it a try.
Then, it won’t happen.

439115 ▶▶▶▶ happychappy, replying to merlin, 5, #799 of 1400 🔗

The Government won’t force it on people. They will compel businesses – pubs, restaurants, shops, cinemas, etc – to enforce it as a requirement of entry. Not the government’s fault, see. Just ‘common sense’ public health precautions on the part of responsible establishments.

439125 ▶▶▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to happychappy, 19, #800 of 1400 🔗

Nope. I have guarantees from all the good businesses I like. They assure me they will NEVER do this. So it will never happen.

439112 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to TheClone, 2, #801 of 1400 🔗

Commons are good for pub regulation-avoidance.

439122 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to TheClone, 14, #802 of 1400 🔗

Don’t be gaslit. It will never happen. NEVER!

439254 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to TheClone, 7, #803 of 1400 🔗

The black market will provide. prepare yourselves accordingly

439498 ▶▶▶ mikec, replying to TheClone, #804 of 1400 🔗

We’re all exempt, we’ll apply for one and tell them we have a needle phobia? They’ll have to issue so as not to discriminate? I think it’s a non-starter, you’ll have to test to go on holiday, probably.

439132 ▶▶ RickH, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 4, #805 of 1400 🔗

Verdict: LOCKDOWN IS OVER!”

I think someone’s just over-dosed on Asta-Zeneca or Pfizer. 🙂

439401 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to RickH, 2, #806 of 1400 🔗

The “OD” was actually Vitamin D

439096 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 28, #807 of 1400 🔗

My in-laws had the vaccine on Saturday. Like a lot of others I know who have had the Pfizer one, they seem a little different. Hard to put my finger on. They seem a little less sprightly – a little dead behind the eyes, a bit monotone. A bit grey. They are still functional but its like the vaccine has taken away some spark. Maybe their soul.

439109 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to steve_w, 2, #808 of 1400 🔗

Would that be the removal of the “God” gene (as per everybody’s favourite software mogul)?

439111 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Ewan Duffy, 1, #809 of 1400 🔗

I dont know about that – Ive seen a couple of references today but dont know what its about

439128 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to steve_w, 2, #811 of 1400 🔗

All well and good but the unstabbed need to start planning for the relegation league

439140 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Crystal Decanter, 8, #812 of 1400 🔗

I suspect that in a few months the vaccine will prove to be a bit shit. Maybe a bit useful in reducing symptoms for healthy people, possibly dangerous for the hyper frail (ie the target group).

The data will show its worth. Some countries aren’t using it on the frail and they aren’t going to join in the conspiracy of saying its safe if it isn’t

439180 ▶▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to steve_w, 3, #813 of 1400 🔗

Agreed – there is a reason they have never found a successful corona vaccine until (allegedly) now

439202 ▶▶▶▶▶ DavidC, replying to Crystal Decanter, 4, #814 of 1400 🔗

One of them is ADE (Anitbody Dependent Enhancement) from the SARS-CoV1 attempted vaccine. Animals were injected with the vaccine and were fine until presented with the wild virus when a lot of them died as a result of ADE. I don’t know the exact figures but could find them if anyone is interested.

DavidC

439220 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to DavidC, 4, #815 of 1400 🔗

Try 100%.

439199 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to steve_w, #816 of 1400 🔗

Bloody hell! That’s awful if true. Although we know of family and friends who have had the jab we haven’t met up with them yet, we live some distance away from each other.

439097 BJs Brain is Missing, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 38, #817 of 1400 🔗

The theme throughout the Mail on Sunday is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine… It is pretty desperate stuff. Maybe the uptake has not been as expected and as more and more people see through the lying Johnson regime.

Also, where I live it is noticeable that those horrific NHS covid propaganda posters have all been removed. This after many were ‘adjusted’ and the message turned back against the government.

439157 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 6, #818 of 1400 🔗

Boris Johnson is a snake in the grass.

439190 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to bebophaircut, 3, #819 of 1400 🔗

Yes and a poisonous one!

439166 ▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to BJs Brain is Missing, 5, #820 of 1400 🔗

I would love to think that uptake had been lower due to public refusal to comply. However, aside from myself, I know of no one who has actually turned it down. If there is a lower uptake than expected then it is probably down to NHS incompetence rather than the competence of the population in weighing up risk.

439213 ▶▶▶ Ossettian, replying to TheBluePill, #821 of 1400 🔗

In Rutland lots of oldies didn’t risk it because of the ice and snow.

They were reassured that they hadn’t missed their chance.

There is also evidently a problem with expected “vaccines” failing to arrive: in a recent week none were delivered.

439116 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 50, #822 of 1400 🔗

Out at the moment having a cracking bbq about thirty or so bikes,màte has some land he rents out to campers, caravans etc everybody joining in, kids in the tents having a great time, heartwarming…

439193 ▶▶ alw, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 11, #823 of 1400 🔗

Good for you 👏 👏 👏 👏 🍷 🍻

439117 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 2, #824 of 1400 🔗

“there are two types of prediction – lucky and lousy”.

Reminds me of weather predicitions. I received a letter from the exterminators three weeks in advance of the day of their visit on February 19, 2021. I was told that I had to vacate my apartment for a minimum of six hours after treatment so I checked the Weather Report on three occasions to see what the 14 Day and 7 Day forecast were for that day. The first predicted 0. That’s 32 degrees F. The second said -5 C. The third predicted -12. When the 19th arrived it was -19 degrees outside. Not ideal weather to roam around a city with no bus or metro pass and only take out restos and cafés. Fortunately for me, they decided not to treat my apartment because there was some dust on my living room rug. That was the third time since December that they refused to treat my apartment for trivial reasons, even though it was impressed upon me from the beginning that they considered it an urgent matter, that I could not refuse, that there was a City Bylaw, etc. I checked the Bylaw and discovered that they were obliged to followup on their treatment. They never have from previous treatments or inspections. Now I think that they were just checking up on me surreptitiously. I am due to receive another letter, probably this week. This time I am going to refuse them. If they make a stink I will take them to court.

439156 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 6, #825 of 1400 🔗

Continuing in the vein of You Must, the most recent Quebec government message to the people states that WE MUST all be vaccinnated. It states that reasons are many, but only two are given. This a translation: To protect ourselves from complications and the risks linked to several infectious diseases (maladies), but also to prevent the reoccurrence of these infectious diseases. They don’t state which diseases they are worried about.

They also promise us a return to a more normal life if we follow their directives.
Translation: New (Ab)Normal Life.
Promises, promises. Like Lucy, Charlie Brown and the football.

439133 PWL, #826 of 1400 🔗

So, Hitchens took the jab? Don’t say you weren’t warned, folks:

This Is What You Want… This Is What You Get

439136 merlin, 6, #827 of 1400 🔗

just as well hitchens is not a stock market investor as I reckon he has just sold his entire portfolio of credibility at the bottom of the market. What a muppet. But brilliant for us as dopes like this are great reverse indicators.

439154 ▶▶ RickH, replying to PWL, 4, #829 of 1400 🔗

Judas goat Hitchens”

Now – I in normal times disagree a lot with Hitchens. But copying the language of Stalinist Russia to condemn him really isn’t a good look.

Sometimes I fear that there’s a class of ‘sceptic fanatics’ who merely mirror lockdown zealots – just a different virtue signalling bus.

439144 B.F.Finlayson, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 20, #830 of 1400 🔗

The single worst aspect of Hitchens proclaiming his submission to a war criminal’s ‘compulsory gene therapy for your freedom back’ blackmail policy, is that in the process he condemns others who steadfastly and correctly refuse gene therapy to be 3rd tier citizens, banned in perpetuity from travel, and possibly much more.
If Hitchens had said that he was worried about Covid and had changed his mind, fair enough. If he took the vaxx but said he would not take a vaxx passport on grounds of principle, fair enough. But he didn’t – he openly announced to all his surrender to blackmail , and that act of betrayal has implications for all of us.
Hichens and his false opposition ilk, are by extension sanctioning state blackmail and totalitarian government oppression, in return for an imaginary passport (it’s not even law yet, only a vague threat). Ringleader Blair is not even an elected politician, simply a corrupt and corrupting criminal with the blood of thousands on his hands, working with the love (from Gove…) and blessing of this government.
How many more deaths does Blair need to inflict during his lifetime to satiate his needs? How many more will the UK people allow?

439155 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to B.F.Finlayson, 11, #831 of 1400 🔗

The Problem is Hitchens & his ilk are still in denial, they still believe it’s just only about a respiratory virus!

439164 ▶▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Anti_socialist, 8, #832 of 1400 🔗

Hitchens is not in denial; his actions are agenda-driven, knowing and deliberately targeted.

439218 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to B.F.Finlayson, #833 of 1400 🔗

You could be right, but I really don’t want to believe it of TY.

439236 ▶▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Anti_socialist, 10, #834 of 1400 🔗

It’s great to have allies, but my own convictions are of parmount importance, I realise I must be prepared to stand alone. If I resign myself to this, anything else is a bonus. Some will cave, some will show themselves to be liars, it won’t alter my conviction.

439532 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 1, #835 of 1400 🔗

Well said

439252 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Anti_socialist, 5, #836 of 1400 🔗

They still believe in Fair Play. Good old British sensilbility will eventually prevail. Not with the lunkheads running the show at this time. They are all demented sadists.

439153 JHUNTZ, replying to JHUNTZ, 19, #837 of 1400 🔗

“It came as German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she would not take the Oxford/AstraZeneca shot because German regulators have not approved it for over-65s – despite the scientific evidence that it is highly effective.”

So is Angela a conspiracy theorist then. Has she been reading up on some dangerous misinformation. Could some third party ‘reliable’ source please fact check her?

Elon Musk says he and his kids won’t get a COVID-19 vaccine (businessinsider.com)

So is a Elon a dangerous conspiracy theorist?

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Takes ‘Anti-Vax’ Stance in Violation of His Own Platform’s New Policy … ‘I Share Some Caution on this [Vaccine] Because We Just Don’t Know the Long-Term Side Effects of Basically Modifying People’s DNA and RNA’ | Project Veritas

Zucks a conspiracy theorist aswell.

There is an awful lot of them even amongst the elites.

439159 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to JHUNTZ, 5, #838 of 1400 🔗

well at least they are being honest rather than not having it but pretending they are

good quotes – thanks

a printable list of about 20 would be handy 🙂

439198 ▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to steve_w, 8, #839 of 1400 🔗

I’m sure we could find about 20. Interestingly, the quotes from Zuck and Elon was a big factor in my mum rejecting the vaccine at the last minute. Talked her out of it on Thursday when she was due to have it Friday.

439345 ▶▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to JHUNTZ, 1, #840 of 1400 🔗

Great news I wish I could have talked my parents out of it.

439172 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to JHUNTZ, 6, #841 of 1400 🔗

Of course there are. Marianna Spring could do a Panorama special on “The Tin Foil Billionaires”. Except she won’t.

There were strong rumours that Blair’s klds never had the MMR vaccine but had instead separate vaccines despite him banging the drum for MMR. He never gave a straight answer.

439191 ▶▶▶ DavidC, replying to OKUK, 2, #842 of 1400 🔗

Tony B. Liar.

(I believe it was Victor Lewis Smith who first used that name, not 100% sure though).

DavidC

439204 ▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to OKUK, 18, #843 of 1400 🔗

Indeed…..
It’s a private matter whether and what treatment one has.

Daily Mail article of 20/12/2001 /Blair-gets-needle-MMR.

Mr Blair (2001) believes vaccines are a private matter:

‘The spokesman went on: ‘ Everyone is entitled to their privacy. That is particularly germane when it comes to medical records.’

So there you have it. No-one need have it, no-one need know. It’s private so definitely no vaccine passports. Anyone see Tony please can you remind him. Hate for it to look like he’s a lying hypocrite.

439255 ▶▶▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Andrea Salford, 2, #844 of 1400 🔗

..again.

439289 ▶▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #845 of 1400 🔗

There’s the proof then , that was in the midst of the MMR being questioned !!..

439292 ▶▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Andrea Salford, 6, #846 of 1400 🔗

That article should be printed in CAPITAL letters on billboards ! Politicians are hypocrites at the best of times but BLIAR is one of the worst Humans ever to have drawn breath !!!

439284 ▶▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to OKUK, 1, #847 of 1400 🔗

Raised this the other day ! I’m 100% sure Ewan didn’t have the MMR , I wish it could be proven !

439176 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to JHUNTZ, 4, #848 of 1400 🔗

The business insider article was terrible. Implying kids are as much at risk as anyone else! Good to have the Musk quote in there though

439185 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to steve_w, 3, #849 of 1400 🔗

Musk has always been my favourite billionaire!

439245 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to JHUNTZ, 2, #850 of 1400 🔗

It could be The Trump Effect. Still busy, cleaning out The Swamp. Maybe Elon, Mark and co got the memo and are having second thoughts?

He will speaking in Florida today on Real America’s Voice TV. Listen carefully.

439160 OKUK, replying to OKUK, 16, #851 of 1400 🔗

Very important link posted by Swedenborg below:

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1365994133991661568

Israeli pro-vaxists are now saying lockdowns, masking and social distancing have to be maintained.

I thought one of the reasons given is of particular interest – the 95% efficacy claims of Pfizer and Moderna cannot be taken seriously because they did not use very old and vulnerable people in their trials. To crow a little, this is a point I have made several times, on the basis of no specialist knowledge at all just plain common sense. The trials basically used people with high functioning immune systems. They weren’t going to die from or get seriously ill with Covid and could handle the demands of the vaccine well.

I hope Toby has read this link since it blows a hole below the waterline on Vaxolibertas – all who sail in her may have to abandon ship.

439169 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to OKUK, 21, #852 of 1400 🔗

the hyper-frail are the only ones that die of covid and they can’t take the vaccine. So they want us all to take it to protect them. Its ridiculous. If we just twiddled our thumbs for 6 months they’d all be dead of old age anyway – problem solved.

439183 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to steve_w, 3, #853 of 1400 🔗

Quite.

439225 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to steve_w, 2, #854 of 1400 🔗

Agreed, and I’m 72.

439186 ▶▶ alw, replying to OKUK, 8, #855 of 1400 🔗

We knew from the start that they only tested vaccine on the healthy most of whom were under 70. No control group. Tells you all you need to know.

439240 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to OKUK, 1, #856 of 1400 🔗

The good ship Vaxolibertas, sunk by an iceberg. Déja vu all over again.

439170 JHUNTZ, replying to JHUNTZ, 8, #857 of 1400 🔗

PETER HITCHENS: I’ve had the Covid jab – and all it cost me was my freedom | Daily Mail Online

Somewhat dissapointed to hear Hitchens has had the jab, but when you read the article he makes the point that he did all to fight it and lost. He’s resigned to the loss of freedom and increased surveillance. I can sort of understand at his age, he probably feels he has lot less skin in the game and why bother taking a virtuous stance for a society that has seemingly lost all morals and virtue.

439181 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to JHUNTZ, 18, #858 of 1400 🔗

Hmmm…so many odd assumptions there. Not least that on balance the vaccine (which vaccine?) will be protective. How do you know J Huntz? Have you researched this? Doesn’t Hitchens have a moral duty to think about what a successful vaccination programme that eliminates flu and Covid might result in – the rise of some truly horrific super pathogen. Why isn’t that an ethical concern?

Anyway Hitchens did not do all he could to fight “it” (I take it you mean lockdownism in its broadest sense). He really didn’t. I believe if he had said over the winter he was going to lead a protest in central London along with other credible figures, there could have been a huge turnout. He wasn’t prepared to take even the slightest risk. A man in his position has far less to lose than the average person.

439194 ▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to OKUK, 4, #859 of 1400 🔗

Could not disagree more. Peter Hitchens was arguably one of the most sane voices of reason in March in the face of extreme vitriol and hysteria. Peter Hitches was an ardent opponent of the mask mandate. If every person in this Country had half the sanity Hitchens had we wouldn’t be in this position.

I never said the vaccine would be protective and I don’t doubt Peter is taking a risk of a vaccine that is clearly showing more adverse reactions than usual and again we don’t know the long term consequences. My point is I can understand why Peter at his age is not willing to take a conscientious position therego rejecting his return to absolute freedom (international travel) for a society that is morally bankrupt.

439223 ▶▶▶▶ iane, replying to JHUNTZ, 11, #860 of 1400 🔗

Yes – a ‘voice’ of reason: but words are cheap!

I am close to Peter’s age but won’t take the jab, short of machine gun at head and until, at the very least, 5 years of testing have proven any of these jabs to be safe.

439237 ▶▶▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to iane, 2, #861 of 1400 🔗

According to Mark Window’s Global Community Kill Grid show late last year, the vaccine won’t be close to verification before January, 2023.

439200 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to JHUNTZ, 2, #862 of 1400 🔗

Hitchens has always been a slave to his own mind anyway. He’s always been a surrender monkey.

439232 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Anti_socialist, 5, #863 of 1400 🔗

Pity that his brother, Christopher, isn’t still around. He would have been a much needed antidote to what’s missing in his brother Peter’s way of thinking.

439298 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #864 of 1400 🔗

The brother that supported the Iraq war? Yes, he would probably have been a great help

439335 ▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to bebophaircut, -1, #865 of 1400 🔗

His brother was a uni student who never grew up; the prototypical ‘edgelord’, as the kids say.

439299 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #866 of 1400 🔗

To what has he surrendered?

Who is not a slave to their own mind?

I can think of more worth targets for an attack than one of the few mainstream journalists who has consistently pushed anti lockdown arguments of the highest quality at every chance he gets

439216 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to JHUNTZ, 14, #867 of 1400 🔗

The question is – why now? It’s not that the vaccination passports are anywhere near anyway. Has he been leant on by his employer or other influencers? No idea, but the timing is suspect. He’s thrown in the towel before the bout has got underway.

439221 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to godowneasy, 9, #868 of 1400 🔗

As Littlejohn has also come to heel, it would seem they have both been ‘got at’ by the Mail.

439230 ▶▶ Seansaighdeoir, replying to JHUNTZ, 9, #869 of 1400 🔗

I always compare Hitchens to the 73 year old Piers Corbyn.

Hitchens is entitled to do what he feels best for him and his family and I would never begrudge him that. Harder to stomach though is his argument that he fought as hard as he could but all is lost.

When the anti-lockdown marches were happening last August and September Piers was leading from the front. Even this weekend he was arrested again for the 5th time.

Not once did I see Mr Hitchens on any of the protests or marches. I don’t think he ever even mentioned these in his column maybe other than a token reference.

His position now is hard to understand. The only supportive comments I have seen today have been from lockdown zealots and even they are castigating him, blaming him for lives lost in not accepting the narrative sooner.

With vaccine passports still some way off and mutant variants sitting on the horizon ready for future lockdowns his position has become untenable as far as criticising the govts.response and future impositions.

A very strange move but rightly or wrong he has the sense of a contrarian about him and maybe even displaying a certain narcissism in this response. Because now we are all talking about him rather than the fact that the narrative is beginning to stall.

439300 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Seansaighdeoir, #870 of 1400 🔗

PH has said he does not believe street protests are effective and this is a defensible position

Narcissism? Well, people on here chose to spend ages attacking him today. Is that his fault?

439385 ▶▶▶▶ Seansaighdeoir, replying to Julian, 4, #871 of 1400 🔗

By making the statement that he has this weekend he must accept some responsibility for becoming the centre of events on here today. He is a public person and has become a central figure in this debate.

If he truly believe all the things he has said in his columns then at the very least he must have understood how this announcement would be perceived and used by those wishing to impose this tyranny.

Why did he do that? He could have had the vaccine but there was no reason to make that announcement this week when the debate has reached a crucial stage. The vaccine push has reached an unprecedented level in the last few days with even the QE getting involved.

But this weekend people are out and about and to all intents and purposes ignoring this ‘lockdown’ and that is a big problem to the narrative. But for those hoping for some break in this spell this weekend PH has put a huge dent in that hope. He didn’t need to do that at the very least he could have kept quiet for a few weeks.

Right now the narrative has now reached unheard of levels of coercion and pressure and PH understands that. So why would someone who openly says he was coerced give the bullies his scalp to parade at the most crucial time in the debate knowing this would be used to force or coerce others into taking something probably against their will?

439303 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Seansaighdeoir, 12, #872 of 1400 🔗

The timing and the manner of his announcement seems very strange.At this moment in time foreign travel is all but illegal.Vaccine passports although they seem inevitable are still far off.
Opposition is beginning to grow as the weather turns and people tire of lockdown.
The truth be told he probably tired of the battle and he calls his actions surrender.
We need to stop looking for leaders;we are going to have to do this ourselves.

439248 ▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to JHUNTZ, 8, #873 of 1400 🔗

So basically someone rushed him with a car, which he was able to dodge, and he felt suddenly persecuted and paranoid and decided that death by untested vaccine/gene therapy was preferable to retaining his health.

I takes a special kind of courage to reject the false security of vaccination and mainstream medical practice. You have to make peace with a lot. And a social death that can feel like a physical bereavement, because you become the kind of person who is no longer mystified by outbreaks of disease and illness. You know more about most vaccine-preventable illnesses than most doctors. You know more about illness prevention, and you have seen corruption and human destruction revealed on scale you can never un-see. This gives you pariah status with all but the most open-minded, and learned.

I don’t think that Hitchins has the rigour or courage for anything beyond intellectual contrarianism. He’s an armchair soldier. And after criticising the officers, he’s gone to serve them behind the trenches, to save his own skin. Dressing it up as anything less does those who are left at the front a huge disservice.

He needed to save his own neck and he was told this is how. I hope he gets to see his loved ones. I hope he’s not too uncomfortable being one of those that after years of criticising from the ropes, taps out the moment the first punch is landed in the ring.

439301 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to TheHandbag, #874 of 1400 🔗

To save his own skin? From what?

439258 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to JHUNTZ, 10, #875 of 1400 🔗

He’s only four years older than me, and I’m definitely not getting the gene therapy. Skin in the game? This coup d’etat could cost me everything, but I consider resistance to be the only honourable, rational choice. If a large enough number of people refuse the jab, it will stop the Regime in its tracks. If only a small minority refuse, we will be crushed. Peter Hitchens and any others prepared to renounce their principles have let the rest of us down badly.

439178 isobar, replying to isobar, 30, #876 of 1400 🔗

Rishi rules out speeding up lockdown exit and doesn’t rule out another lockdown.

DM readers not impressed!

‘Rishi Sunak categorically rules OUT speeding up lockdown exit despite success of vaccine roll-out and says he cannot ‘guarantee’ this lockdown will be the last’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9309053/Rishi-Sunak-categorically-rules-speeding-lockdown-exit.html

Best rated readers comment 320 upticks 16 downticks

This will be the last lockdown whether he likes it or not, people have had enough of treading water or sinking the last 11 months, time to crack on asap

439197 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to isobar, 12, #877 of 1400 🔗

cannot ‘guarantee’ this lockdown will be the last’

I told ya, I said Monday the “irreversible” lockdown road map will be obsolete by the weekend!

439207 ▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Anti_socialist, 5, #878 of 1400 🔗

Lol you absolutely did the narrative is crystal clear these days.

439215 ▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to JHUNTZ, 5, #879 of 1400 🔗

Am waiting for “We can’t guarantee that unless you stay home and have the jab”

439485 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to JHUNTZ, 2, #880 of 1400 🔗

They do seem to rely a lot on people having the memory span of fruit flies.

439242 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #881 of 1400 🔗

You sure did!

439226 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to isobar, 1, #882 of 1400 🔗

So, who’s next. Who’ll be next in line? Any wagers? I heard that Brits will bet on anything. Why not bet on the next schmuck who will make a similar threat? A little padding for your furlough money.

439234 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to bebophaircut, 11, #883 of 1400 🔗

Probably Wancock as clearly few took any notice of JVT asking people to stay at home this weekend. Wancock can start by saying what a great job he has done on the jab programme, well so far. I get the feeling that the government knows that it has lost control as far as staying home is concerned and will try and regain control by threats. Also the amount of press coverage and coercion this weekend suggests that they may soon meet resistance as far as younger age groups getting the “jab”

439482 ▶▶▶ mikec, replying to bebophaircut, #884 of 1400 🔗

Tried it, bookies refuse Covid bets apparently.

439233 ▶▶ Bugle, replying to isobar, 9, #885 of 1400 🔗

So for those inclined to think Rishi is the acceptable face of the cabinet – there it is. Rishi is fully signed up to this conspiracy against the public, a fact which will not be forgotten once Reiner Fuellmich’s class action goes global.

439243 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Bugle, 7, #886 of 1400 🔗

Fishi IS. the conspiracy. He bankrolls it.
With our money.

439295 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Bugle, 10, #887 of 1400 🔗

The cabinet are all criminals.The media the courts and parliament are all complicit.A revolution is needed.

439310 ▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to jonathan Palmer, 7, #888 of 1400 🔗

Agree, one of things that has upset me most is the complete failure of our MPs, apart from a valiant and brave few, to speak out and challenge the government on lockdowns etc.

439306 ▶▶ Janette, replying to isobar, 6, #889 of 1400 🔗

Hopefully this will now make people think twice about taking the vaccine as once again the goal posts are being moved!

439400 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to isobar, #890 of 1400 🔗

Sadly, I thought and said so after the first.

439544 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to JayBee, #891 of 1400 🔗

Sadly I did too!

439189 Silke David, 10, #892 of 1400 🔗

Can ATL please stop publishing photos of certain people?
Today’s oh, so lovely posed beloved F.. is just vile and I scroll past it as fast as I can.

439209 Biggles, replying to Biggles, 32, #893 of 1400 🔗

Sitrep from the North East. Just been for an 18-mile blast in the old car and it was no different to any other nice Sunday in February. Loads of people out in town, dog-walkers, joggers, cyclists. A few virtue signallers in masks but not many.

The car park at a local ‘beauty spot’ was rammed and the ice cream van I saw must have been doing well. A lay-by near the start of a country walk was also full and there was a lengthy queue for the sandwich van. Traffic levels back to normal.

So like everywhere else there’s no lockdown here.

439222 ▶▶ iane, replying to Biggles, 13, #894 of 1400 🔗

There is for most businesses!

439229 ▶▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to iane, 14, #895 of 1400 🔗

Exactly. It’s not over until everything is open, and I mean properly open.

439399 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to disgruntled246, 1, #896 of 1400 🔗

It’s not over until the next closure after the upcoming opening is rejected outright.

439371 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Biggles, 7, #897 of 1400 🔗

Naive. It’s great to see people saying ‘fuck it’ privately. It’s a start. But most will still admit that they’re ignoring ‘the rules’, rather than questioning them fundamentally, and it won’t take much to get them jumping through hoops.

There’s a major psychological shift to yet be achieved.

439521 ▶▶▶ Biggles, replying to RickH, #898 of 1400 🔗

A psychological shift would be a real struggle for most people in Darlington!

439211 stephenhoffman, 12, #899 of 1400 🔗

( Postcard from the Alps ): “Readers will remember the chaos suffered by hauliers backed up along the motorway just before Christmas after Mr Hancock felt it opportune to popularise the now-foundational ‘mutant strain’ gimmick.”

Spot-on.

439219 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 11, #900 of 1400 🔗

I have been watching reruns of The New Avengers for the past two weeks. I love the introductory music and giggle each time that I see Joanna Lumley leaping over a chain link fence and showing off her lovely long legs. Last night I watched Sleeper . At minute 19:30 they showed a deserted London Town on an early Sunday morning after an attack from a helicopter that had sprayed sleeping gas all over the city. Beware of this vaccine propaganda and all that will probably follow it. The after effects might last more than a few hours next time around.

439312 ▶▶ Jonny S., replying to bebophaircut, 5, #901 of 1400 🔗

Ahh Joanna Lumley in the New Avengers.

The Goddess.

439228 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 10, #902 of 1400 🔗

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/find-out-how-many-anti-lockdown-protesters-are-on-the-pup-says-hse-board-member-40141192.html

Standard leftist authoritarianism. Ignored the fact that if someone was told they cannot work, they are on the Pandemic Unemployment Payment. Another one for Nuremburg.

439241 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Ewan Duffy, 6, #903 of 1400 🔗

How out of touch is that guy? Mad ramblings of an over entitled public official.

End the PUP then, see what you have on your hands then.

439247 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #904 of 1400 🔗

Finlay has always been the “polite” face of left wing authoritarianism in Ireland. He is the former CEO of Barnardos in Ireland.

439363 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Ewan Duffy, #905 of 1400 🔗

I’m more worried about standard rightist authoritarianism (wheel on Brenda) in England – they’re the ones in government here.

439420 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to RickH, #906 of 1400 🔗

Agreed. I have come from Greece and the Covidianism was right-wing authoritarian.

439231 frankfrankly, replying to frankfrankly, 12, #907 of 1400 🔗

The Sun is our greatest ally. Plus the sense that if millions have been vaccinated, especially the most vulnerable, why aren’t we exiting lockdown?

In the future there will be an official enquiry into how the epidemic has been handled. No doubt the main response will be the usual “lessons have been learned” (in this case dangerously wrong ones probably). If the official enquiry drags on and appears to be headed for a whitewash-particularly re lockdown, then a ‘Not the Official Enquiry’ may be necessary. That takes organisation and funding of course. But it would be an opportunity to involve people who would be marginalised by the ‘Covid Establishment’ and I’m sure would draw together a lot of intelligent and committed people.

439239 ▶▶ Annie, replying to frankfrankly, 9, #908 of 1400 🔗

If anybody starts a fund for the Real Inquiry, I’ll contribute.

439273 ▶▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Annie, 4, #909 of 1400 🔗

I’d love to join. I have several years left and a degree going to waste.

439257 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to frankfrankly, 3, #910 of 1400 🔗

The Sun? The heavenly body or the newspaper?

439261 ▶▶ BTLnewbie, replying to frankfrankly, 14, #911 of 1400 🔗

I think Reiner Fuellmich’s legal case will constitute the “Not the Official Enquiry”. He and his team have been gathering data from Day 1.

439238 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 29, #912 of 1400 🔗

So Sunak joins the covidians. The news out of Israel is damning. As known by anyone who did their own sums the vaccines are under 1% absolute effective at reducing one symptom, that’s it folks, nothing more is known from the trials that will not be completed until 2023. But real life ‘experiment’ Israel is seeing the same low efficacy, with no reductions in hospitalisations, deaths etc.
They may never admit it but the governments who put their faith in untested vaccines will now the running scared, hence Sunak’s statement today.
How do they explain that the likes of S Dakota were right all along and that NPIs were and are useless? How do they escape with necks intact?
The risk for us all is that this gets worse and they revert to full clamp down, zero covid on steroids to cover up their crimes against humanity.
Will this end without bloodshed? I am increasingly doubtful. There is only so much a compliant populace can take before it flips.

439256 ▶▶ merlin, replying to peyrole, 17, #913 of 1400 🔗

even the pathetically low absolute benefit can’t be trusted. I have zero trust in the monsters who want to give gene therapies to children.

439394 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to peyrole, 6, #914 of 1400 🔗

Freedoms have never ever been given back voluntarily by those who took them.

439417 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to JayBee, 4, #915 of 1400 🔗

Correct. They were achieved with considerable cost and it may take considerable blood, sweat and tears to get them back.

439585 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Waldorf, #916 of 1400 🔗

Above all, probably and sadly, time. Decades.

439456 ▶▶ iansn, replying to peyrole, 1, #917 of 1400 🔗

we will know in 2-3 weeks once the Feb death figures are released. Then its game over for blojo and his mates. They have been rushing in order to complete before the vac stats become known. It will be over by the end of March

439244 Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, 2, #918 of 1400 🔗

Numbers creeping up steadily. Please sign and pass on if you missed it in the lineup:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/575462
Agree to hold a public inquiry to examine the true, full, effects of Lockdowns.

439269 ▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Cheezilla, 6, #919 of 1400 🔗

I can’t say this enough, whilst I will sign, you can’t word petition with something equivocal. They don’t have to agree. They are our legislators. Not our life partners. They are the government. We demand, they do.

Demand a full enquiry (and then the passing of legislation with retrospective effect to ensure the prosecution of those found to have acted maliciously or with reckless indifference to those who’s welfare they were charged).

439249 Julian, replying to Julian, 52, #920 of 1400 🔗

Peter Hitchens is neither a traitor nor a quisling nor is he controlled opposition neither has he “turned”.

He’s a human being like the rest of us

IMO he could/should have waited to see what happened with vaccine passports before he succumbed, and he made an error of judgement, but it’s highly forgivable and he has never set himself up as the leader of a movement, just a man doing his job and calling things as he sees them

His arguments have been excellent from the start, and tireless

He has not led street protests because he does not believe they are effective, and it’s a defensible and honourable position

He is not advocating for vaccines, in fact he used his column to point out the element of coercion

We should focus our opprobrium on those who truly deserve it

439275 ▶▶ Custerhaditcoming, replying to Julian, 6, #921 of 1400 🔗

Agreed. I have much respect for Peter. I think I may have done the same if I were in his position. I am however lucky that both my parents died some 25 years ago so they didn’t have to live through this and all my siblings bar one are still with us and healthy. I think my dad would have been particularly unimpressed by the idiots in Westminster. He was not a man to trifle with. Therefore I am in a fortunate position to not be tested by such dilemmas, so I can wait for some time to see how the fax program plays out. I am sure that Peter thought long and hard before coming to this decision and the message it may send out. The war has yet to be won.

439277 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to Custerhaditcoming, 10, #922 of 1400 🔗

If he thought long and hard about it, he is even more culpable.

439352 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to OKUK, -8, #923 of 1400 🔗

Do get off your home-made pedestal. It’s not a pretty sight in public.

439556 ▶▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to RickH, 3, #924 of 1400 🔗

If I had a column in a national newspaper your comment might be fair. But as I haven’t, it isn’t. I’m simply expressing how I see his action. It is a betrayal.

439276 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Julian, 17, #925 of 1400 🔗

The cause is freedom, our freedom. He betrayed by delivering a propaganda coup to those seeking to deprive us of our freedom. He is a traitor in effect if not intent. Delivering the keys to the gate is still a betrayal even if you did it because you think the war was already lost.

439282 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to OKUK, 5, #926 of 1400 🔗

He’s not telling people to give up or to have the vaccine or that lockdowns are right

How is agreeing to be vaccinated because you’ve been coerced and publicly saying so treachery

He’s the last person we should be using our energy to attack

439290 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Julian, 7, #927 of 1400 🔗

It’s not really that I see him as ‘the enemy’ , or on their side, and I agree that he deserves eternal praise for being one of the first to start to call this shit out for what it was, rather that I no longer regard him as an effective voice for our side. it’s as if he’s kind of dropped out of the fight. and I feel a sense of loss about that.

439291 ▶▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to JaneHarry, 6, #928 of 1400 🔗

I would wait and see how he proceeds. I fully expect him to stick to his guns and continue to denounce the coronapanic. He hasn’t changed his mind or started advocating for the other side, so if he continues to make the same arguments as he has done from the start then why not judge him on the arguments he makes rather than one of his personal choices that he chose to make public, in my view in an attempt to criticise and undermine rather than support the vaccine narrative

439308 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ matt, replying to Julian, 7, #929 of 1400 🔗

The most frequent criticism I see of him (other than that he’s an irresponsible granny killer) is that he hasn’t changed his argument and keeps repeating the same points. Well, why would he have changed his arguments? Nothing has changed to make his main points less valid. He’s never relied on stats or the numbers as the central plank of what he says, so while TY has spent a lot of the last year pointing at the numbers and so has had to shift his position when it started to look like the “casedemic” had been wrong, for example, Hitchens has had a purist position based on executive overreach, unacceptable interference in people’s lives and freedoms and the immorality of the government running a campaign of fear propaganda. Sumption is in a similar boat.

I suppose it comes down to, what are you actually against? If you’re against the use of lockdown as a way to combat _this particular virus_, or if you think that these measures are justified if there’s a danger of hospitals being ‘overwhelmed,’ then I suppose the numbers really matter. If what you’re really against is big pharma and the rollout of an unnecessary vaccine and/or you distrust the vaccine and the motives behind it, then it matters that people should refuse to be vaccinated. If you think that lockdown measures should never be imposed under any circumstances and that the wholesale removal of our human rights and the casual destruction of the economy should be unthinkable, then the taking of the vaccine is not a particularly important issue. Personally, I’m far more concerned about the creeping surveillance state implied by vaccine passports than I am about the speculative harms of the vaccine. I also find it deeply worrying that the mood music seems to be that the much vaunted success of the vaccine rollout seems to have no real connection at all to the return of freedom.

439389 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to matt, 6, #930 of 1400 🔗

Just a brief addition. I am very vaccine dubious. I don’t like the false narratives surrounding it.

But I don’t require anyone to reject the vaccine, in order for me to feel secure. I have lived for many years with the results of vaccines shedding, and debilitating the healthy so they become viral reservoirs, (of diseases that they aren’t vaccinated against), that walk amongst us. It they want to sign up to autoimmune illness and years of sick winters, I accept that is their choice.

I have already taken it upon myself to Home Ed to avoid flu vaccine, (on the advice of a doctor-lawyer). That’s my choice. I nag about hand washing (although that’s more about catching worms and scabies off other children). I keep kiddy meetings to outdoors as much as possible, once nasal flu vaccine season is upon us. I avoid ASDA’s toilets. This year I’m taking Vit C, D, B, Zinc etc. That’s how I manage risk.

What I despise even further than the irresponsible rollout of fresh immunotherapeutic technology, which would have taken decades to pass regulators, is the vaccine passport. You cannot trade me my inalienable right to free movement, and association, for my right to enjoy my bodily health, my way.

It’s even more sinister than the brutally indifferent mass homicide taking place with the vaccine scam.

So I’m afraid whatever respect I might have had for Hitchens is much reduced by what I consider a craven, ill thought-out decision that materially undermines his stance as a reliably erudite intellectual, capable of vanquishing arguments in favour of this pathetic war on Western humanity .

439449 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ matt, replying to TheHandbag, 1, #931 of 1400 🔗

The plan that is apparently currently being looked into to redevelop the track and trace app to incorporate the certification is chilling, especially when combined with the apparent fact that there is no plan to sunset the track and trace operation itself. This will mean that you will be practically obliged to have your every movement recorded.

Now, without even having to speculate on the motives and intentions of the lot currently in power, it is impossible to believe that all future governments will be able to resist using a tool that already exists, that gives them access to such a granular level of data on where individual citizens go, what activities they engage in and how often. Whether or not this is the plan right now, there is an inevitability to it. Especially in a public health obsessed environment an in the context of creeping nanny statism. Surely it can only be a good thing if we give people a tax break for going to the gym twice a week, or levy a surcharge on people who go to the pub too often?

That aside and back to Hitchens: I’m afraid I am not of the school that says that this is deliberate genocide and while I could be convinced that the vaccines are harmful – because I do think there’s reason to be concerned that the long term effects haven’t had time to be tested – I haven’t seen evidence to convince me. The half dozen or so people I know who’ve been jabbed so far don’t seem to have suffered for it. Basically, I don’t think the vaccine is the problem and I suspect that’s where Hitchens is coming from too.

I have no interest in convincing anyone either way on the vaccine. I think it’s the least of our problems.

439403 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ AshesThanDust, replying to matt, #932 of 1400 🔗

Well said.

439360 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Julian, #933 of 1400 🔗

I wonder if by announcing he’s had the jab, it’s a partly tactical move on his part. This makes it harder for opponents to label him a Covid denier?

439375 ▶▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Julian, -6, #934 of 1400 🔗

Piss off 77

439359 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to OKUK, -1, #935 of 1400 🔗

Your ‘betrayal’ rhetoric is reminiscent of what you pretend to despise – blinkered and thoughtless condemnation.

Stalin would love you.

439280 ▶▶ davews, replying to Julian, 5, #936 of 1400 🔗

I agree. As one who has succumbed even though I know the issues, I am as guilty as he is. Unfortunately there is a brick wall in front of us. When I point out all the vaccine issues elsewhere, where I think most participants are pretty intelligent people, all I get are loads of abuse. How long will it be before they realise the vaccine is not what it is put out to be, the side effects and deaths from it are very very real, and that the NHS is now a one illness outfit?

439361 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to davews, 1, #937 of 1400 🔗

You’re not ‘guilty’ – that’s a simple minded virtue-signalling, tosser idea. Highly reminiscent of the Covid zealots.

I, too, have had long debates with intelligent people who have succumbed – often after considerable self-questioning. They aren’t ‘guilty’ or ‘traitors’. Just ultimately coerced and wrong, and influenced by this sickening wave of populist button-pressing from a government that is just extending it’s natural affinity to such techniques.

439304 ▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Julian, 9, #938 of 1400 🔗

he used his column to point out the element of coercion

No, he used his column to justify his de-facto support for an an illegal policy of vaxx passports, which would be in contravention of UN Human Rights legislation, European Human Rights legislation (both of which the UK is a signatory) and the UK Equalities Act.
He is of course a human being, but he proclaimed his position in print as a professional journalist, propaganda merchant and influencer – the rules are different. I’m amazed so many people (conveniently) choose not to see the distinction.
Of course there is coercion, I faced this only last week when the NHS threatened me that without gene therapy I would not be able to travel. I called them out, and told them to stuff the vaxx. I also travel with my job, and need that freedom to travel just as much as Hitchens, but some things are more important. Stand up, and the regime will cave in.

439328 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Julian, 5, #939 of 1400 🔗

the picture ATL has achieved more than the protests in Trafalgar square

439350 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Julian, 1, #940 of 1400 🔗

Thanks for that bit of sense, Julian. I’m not of the same faith as Hitchens – in any sense. But he has been perfectly consistent (and articulate) in his viewpoint up to this point, and open about the vaccine stuff.

I sometimes get the feeling that some ‘sceptics’ just want something to bellyache about rather than having any other motivation – it’s just another form of virtue signalling.

439374 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Julian, -8, #941 of 1400 🔗

He’s a traitor cunt

439386 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Julian, 3, #942 of 1400 🔗

I have said from the start that this is, or should be, only oneselfs personal decision.
I can inform others, including friends and family members, about my concerns and decisions but not much more.
After all, I don’t want to be blamed in case one of them denied it and succumbed to the rona, nor should they want to be blamed, if I was coerced into having it and then succumbed to the vaccine’s sude effects, whether now or in 10 years time.
Sadly, the latter is not respected much these days, by ‘tge other sude’, let alone officials or journos.
And in addition or in Hitchens case, the pseudo-patriotic sh*t in conjunction with this vaccination program turns me off and shouldn’t play a role at all but does so big time, especially in the UK.
Also, anyone really concerned about our loss of liberties not being temporary should be very sceptical about the vaccine passports, and as such w/shouldn’t capitulate at such an early state, unless truly concerned for their own health AND believing in the efficiency of the current ‘vaccines’.
The former is acceptable, but the latter rules out being an informed
sceptic and insofar, the criticism of him and such people is legitimate in that regard, but his right to make his own decision weighs heavier.

439250 straightalkingyorkshireman, 28, #943 of 1400 🔗

Sat on a bench at the park typing this, lots of families and kids playing in the sun. Main road really busy especially with bikers out enjoying themselves. Every now and then the same cop car comes up and down. Job over mate, go and do some proper policing.

439251 Julian, replying to Julian, 24, #944 of 1400 🔗

Out and about locally today

Lots of obviously multi-household groups

The police may have bothered people at the Tower yesterday but 2 miles down river the place was buzzing and not a cop in sight

They cannot be everywhere

439297 ▶▶ B.F.Finlayson, replying to Julian, 13, #945 of 1400 🔗

Stretch ’em to the limits every day, it’s all good practice for the Easter Uprising.

439551 ▶▶▶ Robin Birch, replying to B.F.Finlayson, #946 of 1400 🔗

Save the NHS, Save your local Nick. Stay at home.

439337 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Julian, 4, #947 of 1400 🔗

The ordinary decent copper is in an impossible position.

439260 GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 21, #948 of 1400 🔗

The coronavirus jab’s most tantalising side effects? It may help fight cancer, chronic pain… and even Alzheimer’s

  • Scientists have documented the unexpected benefits of vaccines for decades
  • Some experts suggest vaccines can ‘train’ the immune system, strengthening it
  • Others say increased stress hormones affect cells’ ability to target infections

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9307203/Coronavirus-jab-help-fight-cancer-chronic-pain-Alzheimers.html#newcomment

Aaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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439263 ▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 34, #949 of 1400 🔗

Already, there’s been a huge drop-off in Alzheimer’s as many of its sufferers have died peacefully in their chairs after receiving their vaccine.

439272 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to TheHandbag, 19, #950 of 1400 🔗

…and they test positive for Covid as well thanks to the vaccine. Joy all around – at least in Big Pharma land.

439286 ▶▶▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to OKUK, 14, #951 of 1400 🔗

New Slogan – “You Can’t Get Alzheimer’s If You’re Dead!” #gogetvaxxed

439293 ▶▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to TheHandbag, 6, #952 of 1400 🔗

I like it. Far more effective than Van Tamm’s attempts at connecting with the masses!

439546 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Robin Birch, replying to OKUK, 1, #953 of 1400 🔗

Wonder if he believes he’s a ‘people person’?

439410 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to TheHandbag, 3, #954 of 1400 🔗

I think Alzheimer’s has reinvented itself as zombyism and moved to younger age groups.

439327 ▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to TheHandbag, 8, #955 of 1400 🔗

In my town they wanted to build another 60 bed care home, mainly dementia, but they did not get planning so far. I do not know how affected our care homes were, but I would say that people will try to stay in their own homes with help of carers as long as possible in the future. We have plenty of care agencies in our town, all always recruiting.

439393 ▶▶▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to Silke David, 2, #956 of 1400 🔗

They’re going to struggle if they insist, as some already are, on no jab no job.

439270 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 21, #957 of 1400 🔗

The Mail – not so much sitting on the fence but running up and down on one side and then leaping over to the other side to run up and down there.

439281 ▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to OKUK, 12, #958 of 1400 🔗

Yeah, it’s a little schizophrenic. I wonder if there might be a reason for this though – these rags have lost a massive amount of ad revenue, so much so that the government is their main revenue source now. I read somewhere that government ad revenue is going to be dialled back down, so I wonder if they are playing chicken with the government by running anti-bullshit stories every time the government threatens to cut ad revenue.

439285 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to OKUK, 8, #959 of 1400 🔗

While the DM does flip flop from one side to the other, probably to continue sucking at the teat of government advertising revenue, unless it’s a contrived sob story, their readers are increasingly very hostile, as are DT readers. In the Sun it’s around 50/50. Majority of D Mirror readers seem still supportive of lockdowns. Well that’s my take anyway. Don’t know about Times readers as I refuse to subscribe.

439315 ▶▶▶▶ Dave Angel Eco Warrier, replying to isobar, 11, #960 of 1400 🔗

The Times is probably the strongest cheerleader for lockdown, masks, mandatory vaccines etc of the whole lot. They are relentless in their desire to shackle the population to a series of rules and restrictions. I have no idea why but their coverage is disturbing.

439346 ▶▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to isobar, 6, #961 of 1400 🔗

Problem is the the MoS has a different editotial team to the DM wuth differing agenda. It was the same with the Brexit coverage.

439354 ▶▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Richy_m_99, #962 of 1400 🔗

Thanks, you must be psychic, just asked that question to DanClarke

439356 ▶▶▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to isobar, #963 of 1400 🔗

It’s a good gauge of the countries mood. But, they’ve always been very sensationalist, even at the best of times.

439325 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to OKUK, 1, #964 of 1400 🔗

they tend to get tit bits aka leaks from the Government.

439338 ▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to OKUK, 2, #965 of 1400 🔗

The MOS still takes a different stance to the DM, yesterday it was all over the ‘Was it Covid’ story, today gone, but back tomorrow

439347 ▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to DanClarke, 1, #966 of 1400 🔗

Yes, different editorial team?

439343 ▶▶ leggy, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 2, #967 of 1400 🔗

I heard that it brings you back from the dead.

439408 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to leggy, #968 of 1400 🔗

Good news for zombies maybe?

439274 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 9, #969 of 1400 🔗

I am a Baby Boomer. I have always believed in Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, Liberty, Equality and Fraternity. Never became a Yuppie like many of my contemporaries. It’s called Integrity. Here is a late 60s song from some of my Black Brothers, also Baby Boomers, The Chambers Brothers. This song is even more relevant than it was in the 1960’s. We are now facing the obliteration/elimination of all the causes that people fought for and won after many years of struggle. This new struggle is for all the marbles. Nip it in the bud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIqwzQ7g-Cc

Chambers Brothers Time has come Toda y

439279 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, #970 of 1400 🔗

Psychedelic Soul Music, tinged with some Culturally Appropriated Eastern spices.

439334 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to bebophaircut, #971 of 1400 🔗

That’s a tune alright!

439283 TheHandbag, 6, #972 of 1400 🔗

Our local constabulary were not visible as everyone was out, letting their kids play and dogs romp. I do love my town. I mean not the place, but the people. Enough of every stripe that we simply can’t agree on much apart from that we want our hospital back to properly functioning even if it was a killer. It was OUR killer. And that no one voted for our Con MP but he got in anyway.

I realise now that I haven’t the Police them credit for strategically placing themselves where they can “see no evil”. Nice long walkway. (They have no way of assessing the distance between people). Tons of space. And so obviously there from so far away that you’d be mad to engage with them.

They’re so grossly underfunded, and as a result we’ve all had a torrid time of it this past decade. They aren’t going to do anything to antagonise their populace when they know they’ll be sucked down to London when it all kicks off, (as it inevitably will), and will be depending on us to mind the shop while they’re gone.

439288 Jo Starlin, 14, #973 of 1400 🔗

Well, other than the annual summer music festival, I have never seen the park like that. They apparently closed the car park to incoming vehicles at 11am!

439296 OKUK, replying to OKUK, 21, #974 of 1400 🔗

Just reposting this link originally posted by Swedenborg as it’s v important I think.

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1365994133991661568

Israeli pro-vaxists are now admitting lockdowns, masking and social distancing have to be maintaine despite Israel’s massive Covid vaccination programme – the most advanced in the world.

439321 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to OKUK, 8, #975 of 1400 🔗

So its not about a virus?

439538 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to DanClarke, #976 of 1400 🔗

Never was

439302 Jonny S., replying to Jonny S., 36, #977 of 1400 🔗

Just been to local park in Huddersfield.
Absolutely thronging with people out in the sun getting fresh air and exercising

439311 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Jonny S., #978 of 1400 🔗

What about Holmfirth? Last of the Summer Wine.

439320 ▶▶▶ Jonny S., replying to bebophaircut, 4, #979 of 1400 🔗

Dunno, but due to my impeccable (in my mind) dress sense the kids nickname for me is Compo

439330 ▶▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Jonny S., 1, #980 of 1400 🔗

How many holes do you have and what do you use for a belt?

439333 ▶▶▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, #981 of 1400 🔗

Natty for Nora Batty.

439413 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to bebophaircut, #982 of 1400 🔗

Hordes of people observing Nora Batty’s wrinkled stockings through a telescope: socially distanced, tha knows.

439355 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Jonny S., 3, #983 of 1400 🔗

We went to the other local park in H. Same story!

439459 ▶▶ mikec, replying to Jonny S., 1, #984 of 1400 🔗

What a great sight.

439316 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Basileus, #986 of 1400 🔗

Rocky & Bullwinkle expose Mr Big:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbJVHCanQA

439329 ▶▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 1, #987 of 1400 🔗

Anybody here got a chemistry set? Upsadaisium could be the answer to removing Klaus and company.

439313 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 11, #988 of 1400 🔗

The Biden Equality Act: Transgendered men can now compete with girls and women in athetics.

439331 ▶▶ wendyk, replying to bebophaircut, 12, #989 of 1400 🔗

O for goodness sake! Why don’t they just have their own trans competitions?This will drive female athletes out altogether, as they face impossible odds.
Barmy Biden strikes again.

439353 ▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to wendyk, 9, #990 of 1400 🔗

There’s a good interview with the swimmer Sharron Davies on the latest Planet Normal podcast. She’s advocating for a women’s category and an open category.

439384 ▶▶▶▶ wendyk, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, #991 of 1400 🔗

Good for her; I hope she succeeds

439357 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to bebophaircut, 9, #992 of 1400 🔗

the women athletes should just go on strike and not turn up which would be rather embarrassing to the organisers.

439367 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to penelope pitstop, -2, #993 of 1400 🔗

But they have all been shot up with steroids for 30 years they all have cocks

439365 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to bebophaircut, -2, #994 of 1400 🔗

And fuck them up the arse while smelling their hair

439314 Basileus, 15, #995 of 1400 🔗

The effectiveness of Ivermectin. In French, Google translation follows.

https://blogs.mediapart.fr/laurent-mucchielli/blog/250221/pourquoi-l-ivermectine-est-probablement-le-meilleur-traitement-de-la-covid

Why Ivermectin is probably the best treatment for Covid
25 FEB 2021 BY LAURENT MUCCHIELLI BLOG: LAURENT MUCCHIELLI’S BLOG
Ivermectin, combined with macrolides, gives particularly important positive results in the treatment of different forms of Covid, both in prevention, early treatment and at the start of severe phases in hospitalization. Its denigration by the “health authorities” constitutes a new refusal to treat and therefore a new scandal vis-à-vis the sick.

by Gérard MAUDRUX, doctor, former president of the Sickness Fund for Liberal Professions and of the Doctors Retirement Fund

Ivermectin may go down in history on the podium of the three most useful drugs to mankind, along with Penicillin and Aspirin. On what step? Not the first if we simply look at the extent of its use (nearly 4 billion prescriptions over 40 years), but certainly on the first with regard to the benefit / risk factor. This medication has a wide range of indications and has virtually no serious side effects unlike its two neighbors (allergies and anaphylactic shock for Penicillin, bleeding for Aspirin).

A powerful pest control

From its birth in the late 1970s, Ivermectin has been shown to be a potent antiparasitic agent against a wide range of internal and external nematodes (worms) and arthropods in animals. In humans it is used against diseases that devastate and disfigure poor populations in the tropics, such as blind river onchocerciasis, and filariasis, these fine worms that enter and circulate in your body. It is used free of charge as the only medicine in campaigns to eliminate these two diseases worldwide.

Ivermectin has been widely used in veterinary medicine since 1981, it is known to be active against 183 species of nematodes and 129 species of insects and mites, lists which increase each year. It is also used on a number of viruses, such as the pseudo swine rabies virus. Thus Ivermectin treats roundworms in the stomach or intestine, worms in the lungs, mites, lice, horn flies, ticks (which cause enormous damage in cattle in the regions tropical), to lice of fish in aquaculture (but prohibited due to the effects on the rest of the aquatic fauna).

It is authorized in humans in more than 100 countries, in France it is authorized for gastrointestinal anguillulosis, microfilaremia and scabies. Almost 100 million people are treated with this product worldwide each year, and more than 4 billion doses have been prescribed in 30 years. Programs are being set up in some countries such as Nigeria, Burkina Faso and Ghana to treat the entire population, 0.15 mg / kg once a year being sufficient to cure onchocerciasis (30 to 40 million cases / year), but also intestinal anguillulosis (35 million cases), scabies (300 million), leishmaniasis, all parasitic skin diseases, etc.

Nobel Prize for its discoverer

Ivermectin is one of the few molecules to have won a Nobel Prize and is the result of an international public-private collaboration. Its discovery is due to 大村 智, Ōmura Satoshi, specialist in antibiotics at the Kitasato Institute in Tokyo, who entrusted it to a private American laboratory, Merck, Sharp and Dohme (MSD) in 1974 for the in vitro evaluation of its bio-activity. MSD was interested in its human application as early as 1978, before marketing to animals. The first phase 1 trials started in 1980, phase 2 in 1983, and ended in 1987 with a first worldwide authorization, in France, for onchocerciasis, in view of the results on 1,206 patients. Today, the same body, which authorized it, believes, like the National Institute of Health, that more than 14,000 cases in different studies is not enough to authorize it in the case of Sars-Cov-2 . The Nobel Prize for Medicine was awarded in 2015 to its discoverers, Satoshi Ōmura in Japan and William Campbel in the United States.

In addition to this action on parasites, Ivermectin has a virucidal action, first tested and adopted in a number of viral infections in animals, such as porcine pseudo-rabies caused by an RNA virus, such as Sars-COV- 2. In humans, studies are underway against different varieties of flaviviruses, on dengue, Zika, Chikungunya, and the virus responsible for the infection of West Nile. The clinical results on Sars-cov-2 are very promising (this presentation by Dr Paul Marik offers an overview of the state of knowledge and the hypotheses on the modes of action

439318 houdini, replying to houdini, 3, #997 of 1400 🔗

Jimmy Saville says

“Jib jab every trip”

439322 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to houdini, #998 of 1400 🔗

😁 😁

439319 PoshPanic, replying to PoshPanic, 2, #999 of 1400 🔗

Does anybody know if there is a copy of the WEF video posted yesterday, floating around in inter web space? I’m sure some cunning sceptic has saved it somewhere?

439324 ▶▶ isobar, replying to PoshPanic, 1, #1000 of 1400 🔗

There is, someone posted it earlier.

439444 ▶▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to isobar, #1001 of 1400 🔗

Thanks, couldn’t find it here, but there are a few on YT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb6U8xkn8jM

439323 wendyk, replying to wendyk, 26, #1002 of 1400 🔗

Another sad example of the quiet suffering which this utterly mad strategy continues to inflict: this morning while out in the courtyard, I was hailed by a pleasant elderly lady who lives in the next road.

She’s worn out, constantly washing, cleaning and trying to motivate her incontinent husband, who is too lazy to get up and try to reach the lavatory.

Instead, he wears pads, which are then taken off when too dirty, wrapped in a bag and tossed out of the back door, left for her to dispose of.

She has had help in the past, but is now trying to manage on her own.

Before we were imprisoned, she was a keen and active member of her church, which is now closed except for suitably controlled funeral services.

This provided opportunities for socialising as well as worship and a much needed escape from her taxing home circumstances.

What a dire state of affairs, and just one of thousands being played out in homes across the country as the madness continues.

Her opinion of the High Priestess of Holyrood matches my own, and the thought of the present state of suspended animation lasting until April 26th adds to her dismay.

As for zero covid!

439349 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to wendyk, 9, #1003 of 1400 🔗

He sounds like the kind of husband I’d be happy to see go in to a Care Home

439381 ▶▶▶ wendyk, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, #1004 of 1400 🔗

Same here!

439419 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, #1005 of 1400 🔗

The jabbed will be queueing up for that job.

439326 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 9, #1006 of 1400 🔗

After Littlejohn, then Hitchens, then the RF all chirping in their pro vax stance, what are we to think

439339 ▶▶ jb12, replying to DanClarke, 19, #1007 of 1400 🔗

That we are glad we don’t pay heed to any of these idiots anyway.

439332 Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 21, #1008 of 1400 🔗

I hope Peter Hitchens understand what he has signed up for. Anyone who has been paying attention this last year knows that it was never going to end with just one “vaccine.” They’ll be lucky if this “vaccine” turns into the equivalent of a once a year flu shot. I reckon the anal swab will become the new rapid test that travellers will have to submit to as well. If you cede any ground to these psychopaths, you’ve lost. And in other bad news, my daughter (24) told me her friend who works with kids in her occupational therapy practicum has been offered the “vaccine” and is getting jabbed on Thursday. She has severe allergies, so a bad idea on many fronts. Most over 80s here haven’t been offered the “vaccine” yet but they’re giving it to 24-year-olds who are at no risk because they’re working with children who are at no risk.

Scientists at Oxford University have suggested that people may need to have a coronavirus vaccination not once, not twice, but EVERY time they want to travel out of their home country.

https://summit.news/2021/02/22/scientists-vaccination-before-every-holiday-may-be-needed/

439341 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 5, #1009 of 1400 🔗

Before heading to security, you will have to join the vaccination lane at the airport. Once you’ve taken the red pill, you will be allowed to proceed through to departures.

439364 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #1010 of 1400 🔗

Fuck the shill cunt

439405 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Jaguarpig, 2, #1011 of 1400 🔗

Come in please No. 77. Your time is up.

439396 ▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 4, #1012 of 1400 🔗

Sorry to hear about your daughter’s situation. I hope young Canadians are starting to think about the issues involved in this shitshow and reject the ‘vaccines’.

The more we see reporting like you’ve shared from ‘scientists’ about constant, repeated ‘vaccination’, the more likely we are to see people finally waking up and saying enough’s enough. I’m cautiously optimistic, particularly as the weather improves in the Northern Hemisphere (and as all those sanctimonious Aussies and Kiwis go into long-lasting lockdowns in the coming weeks – perhaps they will finally rebel). Anal swabs are also likely to force a bit of critical thinking on the sheeple, so bring ’em on.

At some point we will achieve the critical mass of piss-taking actions (or threats) from the authorities and then the public backlash will start in earnest. I think we are quite close now.

Oh yes, Hitchens is a bitter disappointment.

439428 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Tom in Scotland, 5, #1013 of 1400 🔗

I fear that you underestimate the capacity for self-flagellation and subservience.

I’m not instinctively this pessimistic, but this past year has seen a decline of independent thought that I would not have foreseen in my worst nightmares.

439481 ▶▶▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to RickH, #1014 of 1400 🔗

I think (literal) self-flagellation would be less damaging than what we have seen in the past year! Yes, it’s hard to believe, but I think it has to come to an end at some point, particularly with so many people apparently waking up and going about their normal business.

439649 ▶▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to RickH, 1, #1015 of 1400 🔗

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofjqWBvuJlY

MANDATORY VACCINATIONS: POTENTIAL INSIDIOUS AND COERCIVE STRATEGIES

https://computingforever.com
Dave Cullen’s Computing Forever website.

I’d been watching Dave’s videos for several years, and his was the best analysis of what was coming that I’d come across. He predicted more or less all of it, the masks, psychological coercion, vaccine passports, etc, etc. It was already all out there, but he pulled it together.
I’ve been surprised by nothing our government has done. Depressed, angry, etc, but not surprised. They’ve worked to a script.

439441 ▶▶▶ jos, replying to Tom in Scotland, 1, #1016 of 1400 🔗

Canada is where the Technocracy movement originated in the 1930s – a psychopathic ‘utopian’ dystopia and Prohibitionist anti democracy / anti culture/ anti alcohol grey world (they even had their own colour for their his and hers uniform- technocracy grey – look it up if you want to know something of what we may have in store if the joyless take over).

439494 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Tom in Scotland, 6, #1017 of 1400 🔗

My daughter does not want the “vaccine” but she’s a new teacher and the pressure will be immense. She also loves to travel and, at her age, doesn’t relish the idea of not being able to go overseas ever again. She has me for a mother and so is subject to my rants about the experimental gene therapy, but her friend who is getting it this week is clearly not thinking or doing the requisite research. Or, she feels like she has no choice because of being an occupational therapist. The young people have been a real disappointment to me throughout this last year. We had drinks with friends yesterday and they’re all eager to get their “vaccines” so they can get back to normal. It’s not up to me to break it to them that the “vaccine” will not make them free; unfortunately, people will have to follow their own path on this one and the only people I’m going out on a limb for are members of my family since they won’t disown me even if they think I’m a nutter!

439497 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, #1018 of 1400 🔗

Any teaching jobs going in the Dakotas? Is it easy to move to the US from Canada?

439584 ▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #1019 of 1400 🔗

She’s a French Immersion teacher, so probably not too much of a need in the Dakotas! Of course she can teach in English as well, but it’s not that easy to move to the US from Canada. The bloody border isn’t even open to vehicular traffic outside of what’s considered essential.

439638 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 1, #1020 of 1400 🔗

No one needs multiple vaccines for travel for any other virus that I’m aware of. Why would it be necessary for this virus?
They’re trying to rewrite human immunology.

439336 Basileus, 1, #1021 of 1400 🔗
439340 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 6, #1022 of 1400 🔗

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40234997.html

Headline: Handshakes ‘beyond resuscitation’ in post-Covid world
One of the future Nuremburg Trial defendants tells us that hand shaking will not return in the future but we may be allowed to hug.

439351 ▶▶ bebophaircut, replying to Ewan Duffy, #1023 of 1400 🔗

No more fist bumps too? Elbow bumps?

439368 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Ewan Duffy, 1, #1024 of 1400 🔗

“post-Covid world”

As if they are planning such a thing!

439377 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Ewan Duffy, 6, #1025 of 1400 🔗

Well – they can live in delusion – but we’ve never stopped either form of greeting.

439379 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Ewan Duffy, #1026 of 1400 🔗

“beyond resuscitation” is a pretty scary choice of words. Perhaps he’s saying that we would be better off dead?

439382 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Ewan Duffy, 9, #1027 of 1400 🔗

We need to bring back spit n shake

439430 ▶▶ jos, replying to Ewan Duffy, 3, #1028 of 1400 🔗

This is a direct quote and rip-off from ‘Contagion’ which is according to Hancock where he gets all his inspiration from. Maybe the film-makers could start charging royalties for every time they steal another bit of it.

439445 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Ewan Duffy, 4, #1029 of 1400 🔗

They can SOD OFF. What, are they going to bring about 10k fines for shaking hands next??

439344 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 2, #1030 of 1400 🔗

Headline on Feb 28 2021 Sunday Weather Network Website

UNPRECEDENTED slowdown of Gulf Stream current hasn’t been seen in more than 1,000 years.
Nudge, nudge, wink wink.

439366 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to bebophaircut, 8, #1031 of 1400 🔗

It’s not unprecedented – it’s the Grand Solar Minimum which NASA will tell anyone who cares to look all about. Why we have been lied to and told that it’s man made, well, you can guess why 😉

439370 ▶▶ nic, replying to bebophaircut, 4, #1032 of 1400 🔗

They did this 10 years ago

439404 ▶▶ mikewaite, replying to bebophaircut, 2, #1033 of 1400 🔗

Always useful to take an occasional look at Notrickszone for discussion of recent climate change papers without the media hysteria. Recent comment on N atlantic ciirculation :-

https://notrickszone.com/2021/02/27/doomsday-amoc-tipping-claimed-in-nature-already-refuted-new-study-amoc-shows-no-decline/

An extract from the posting:

A recent study appearing in Nature, “ Current Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation weakest in last millennium “, authored by Caesar et al, hints at a global climate system on the verge of tipping out of control.
According to their findings, the weakening of the so-called Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current (AMOC) in the 20th century is “unprecedented”, and likely because of man-made climate change.
The paper claims that there was “a long and relatively stable period” that was then followed by “an initial weakening starting in the nineteenth century, followed by a second, more rapid, decline in the mid-twentieth century.” The AMOC has since reached “the weakest” level in recent decades.
Rahmstorf’s doomsday scenario
Also not surprising: one of the authors of the doomsday-like paper is climate über-alarmist researcher Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Climate Institute in Germany.
According to Rahmstorf, the Gulf Stream “passing its tipping point” would lead to significant northern Atlantic sea level rise, a regional cooling and “massive effects on the entire ecosystem in the North Atlantic”.
No consensus – contradicted even before release
But the paper’s claims were contradicted already six days before its release. So much for consensus.
A new paper by Worthington et al, “ A 30-year reconstruction of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation shows no decline “, tells us there’s been no decline, let alone a “weakest state”.

So two contradictory papers , one of them from the Potsdam institute which is an extreme warmist institution.
Te Worthington paper points out some details of the circulation not picked up by the alarmist paper.
The media of course picked up on the alarmist story , it is the one guaranteed to make sales.

439636 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to mikewaite, 1, #1034 of 1400 🔗

Extraordinary Heat In France
August 1930

439348 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 13, #1035 of 1400 🔗

From The Sun: CHILDREN will be tested with lateral flow tests twice a week – with 32 million test kits being sent out.
And just one single dose of a Pfizer/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine can give 90 per cent protection from the disease, as new figures show jabs are slashing hospitalisations. The evil just goes on, what are they doing, throwing money at a low mortality virus, I hope the parents call a halt asap!!

439376 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to DanClarke, 10, #1036 of 1400 🔗

32 million test kits? This week? That’s a tall order.

I was part of the team that delivered 10 million in 2 weeks as the delivery from China (Innova being the only approved LFT test and they only make it in 1 factory in China) was delayed and arrived all at once and that was a struggle.

Sounds like more psychological crap to me.

439387 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Awkward Git, #1037 of 1400 🔗

The Royal Mail have been recruiting for Sunday drivers to deliver the test kits.

439451 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Awkward Git, #1038 of 1400 🔗

I was part of the team that delivered …

Watch it Awkward – there’s some round this neck of the woods that’ll label you as a ‘traitor’. 🙂

439572 ▶▶▶▶ rose, replying to RickH, #1039 of 1400 🔗

AG is no traitor

439691 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to DanClarke, #1040 of 1400 🔗

Did they also mention that hospitalisatoins have dramatically dropped in nations taht haven’t started poisoning their citizens.

439362 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 10, #1041 of 1400 🔗

Deep concern over vaccine safety.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n393/rr-4

At the same time as Fiona Godlee refers to “the phenomenal success of the vaccine programme” [1] deaths on the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) for the two Covid vaccines currently in use in the US, manufactured by Pfizer BioNTech and Moderna, are off the scale. As of 4 February there were 653 reported deaths [2]. This was at a time when approximately 35.2 million doses had been administered [3]. It compares with 75 reported deaths associated with influenza vaccine for the current season [4] from 193.6 million doses: this is approximately 48 times the rate. Deaths are also a much higher proportion of total reports for Covid vaccines as compared with Influenza vaccines [6,7]: approximately 5% as compared with about 0.8%. Although none of these cases is confirmed VAERS is a passive reporting system which was said in 2010 to pick up less than 1% of cases [8].

439634 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Basileus, #1042 of 1400 🔗

VAERS COVID REPORTS
19,907 Reports Through February 19, 2021*

1095 DEATHS

2298 HOSPITALIZATIONS

4151 URGENT CARE

2895 OFFICE VISITS

214 ANAPHYLAXIS

24 BELL’S PALSY

439369 bebophaircut, replying to bebophaircut, 8, #1043 of 1400 🔗

I just went to this Canadian Government website warning the public about the growing opioid crisis in Canada during the Covid Scamdemic. I wanted to tell them to End the Lockdown, Save Lives . I first had to fill in some boxes with my name, etc. I wanted to use an anonymous name but when I started typing I discovered that they already knew my name, my email address and more. I stopped typing. I receive a monthly federal pension and presumed that was the extent of my contact with the feds. Wrong. Spooky.

It ticks me off that most of these sites require that you fill in all that baloney and then offer you multiple choice questions that they dreamed up, thereby eliminating personal expression.

439373 ▶▶ RickH, replying to bebophaircut, 10, #1044 of 1400 🔗

It was probably your computer that knew your address etc.

439398 ▶▶ Gtec, replying to bebophaircut, #1045 of 1400 🔗

You could try using a VPN to access the net, and then they won’t know who you are, where you’re from, or even what country or continent you’re in.

439630 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to bebophaircut, #1046 of 1400 🔗

Try clearing your cookies from your device. Then try it again.

439372 this is my username, 5, #1047 of 1400 🔗

In case you missed Dmitri Orlov on the 2020 crisis and what it means, I highly recommend you have a listen. Thanks to whoever posted it in the comments previously!

https://youtu.be/cUPXYoOHiyg

439378 Alkanet, replying to Alkanet, 19, #1048 of 1400 🔗

All river frontages and marina in Hull packed with people enjoying the sun and every bench and litter bin surrounded with empty food packaging and bottles. Hardly a mask in sight except on a jogger(!) and on two police in car slowly cruising the old town but not stopping. Quite a surprise given the pro-restrictions comments in the awful local paper; latest story a couple spotted in Waitrose shopping for tinned spaghetti hoops in hazmat suits but comments don’t grasp that this is meant to be ironic (at least that is my take on it).

439425 ▶▶ popo says, replying to Alkanet, 4, #1049 of 1400 🔗

Speaking of litter on my walk today I saw a woman attaching clear sacks to Council railings and next to overflowing Council litter bins, and then I spotted the culprit: bags of used ‘Costacoffee™’ cardboard cups with their lids in place, the new menace of the casual stroll. I thought: ‘you can take their lids off, you know, and put the cups into other cups so they won’t take all that space up.’

439465 ▶▶▶ Alkanet, replying to popo says, 4, #1050 of 1400 🔗

Good observation re. stacking cups but sadly most users have no interest in minimising litter. I’ve been tempted to gather up bags of 100 dropped masks and leave them on the steps of the council HQ with a Hazardous Waste label just to thank them for their unquestioning cooperation with the government and its advisors but failure to provide any disposal facilities for these abominations.

439518 ▶▶▶▶ fiery, replying to Alkanet, #1051 of 1400 🔗

Yes I’ve been tempted to do that too or dump at my local MPs office.

439380 isobar, replying to isobar, 12, #1052 of 1400 🔗

Here we go again, how convenient!

COVID-19: New Brazil COVID ‘variant of concern’ discovered in UK, health officials say

The Brazil COVID-19 ‘variant of concern’ first detected in the city of Manaus has been discovered in the UK.
Read in Sky News: https://apple.news/A8ZvzG9LJTZ-Taf9u13qUEQ

439390 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to isobar, 8, #1053 of 1400 🔗

Predictable if nothing else.

439406 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Cumbriacracked, 6, #1054 of 1400 🔗

Yes, am waiting for the ‘Falklands Variant’ . Guess that would mean that we have to send in another task force.

439402 ▶▶ Tenchy, replying to isobar, 14, #1055 of 1400 🔗

Yes, just as people are getting out and about, and the number of “cases” is dropping like a stone – only just over 6000 today – up pops the “Brazilian variant”. You couldn’t make it up!

439453 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Tenchy, 5, #1056 of 1400 🔗

The thing is they have used this tactic so many times and the vast majority of people fall for it, why change it?

It is so good to see people out and about enjoying themselves. We were out all day and most certainly busier than has been for quite a while. I can also say the majority of the people out are not local, so pleased they have all driven to get here and enjoy themselves.

439415 ▶▶ popo says, replying to isobar, 4, #1057 of 1400 🔗

You have to capitalise it. It’s a ‘Variant of Concern™’ like in all their documents.

439443 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 3, #1058 of 1400 🔗

But how – I thought the quarantine hotels were supposed to stop that kind of thing?

439492 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1059 of 1400 🔗

It entered via France on a dinghy

439496 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to A. Contrarian, 3, #1060 of 1400 🔗

It entered in a consignment of brazil nuts.

439383 Old Bill, replying to Old Bill, 19, #1061 of 1400 🔗

There are probably people out there that still think covid fascism is still about a respiratory disease. It isn’t of course, it is just the B movie to warm you up and condition you before the main feature, which of course is ‘man made global warming’. If you still doubt that, and the extreme measures that will be enacted in order to ‘combat’ this next ‘disease’, then the following link is a good short introduction to what you will be facing in the near future.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/01/11/bill-gates-backed-climate-solution-gains-traction-but-concerns-linger/

So for all the posters out there gleefully proclaiming the ‘end of lockdown’, you really aren’t following the agenda closely enough.

Sadly, only open, armed resistance will be enough to end this madness, and Toby’s site will need to continue but be renamed ‘resetsceptics’.

439407 ▶▶▶ Old Bill, replying to PoshPanic, 3, #1063 of 1400 🔗

I don’t think I could quarrel with a lot of what is written there, but I could take issue with the ‘gig economy’ bit. Everyone who uses this term seems to think it is something new, however I can assure you that I was working in such an economy in the 1970’s.

439388 Ned of the Hills, replying to Ned of the Hills, 4, #1064 of 1400 🔗

‘Tis asked above:-

What Level of Covid Deaths Will Necessitate a Fourth Lockdown?

The prospect of it going above 1,400 a day for a fortnight or so is my guess.

The highest number this winter was 1,358 on the 19th January – and the NHS, coped just about.

So much is said about the NHS coping I do wonder if Covid were to cause 200,000 deaths a year it would receive the attention it does now so long as the daily toll varied only between 500 to 600 a day. I’m sure they’d be no panic, no lockdown – just look after yourselves a bit more if you’re or are in poor health or overweigh etc. But, otherwise we’d stay calm and carry on.

439418 ▶▶ mj, replying to Ned of the Hills, 4, #1065 of 1400 🔗

also depends on whether they continue to base this on the current definition (28 days of positive test or on death cert) in which case they can frig the figures as much as they want and create whatever figure they want .
Now if they counted deaths from covid, we will never have another lockdown

439463 ▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to mj, 2, #1066 of 1400 🔗

28 Days After is a standard metric though. It could be 28 After Major Surgery etc.

It’s the positive PCR guff that’s the issue

439435 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Ned of the Hills, 9, #1067 of 1400 🔗

It’s nothing to do with deaths, as we’ve found out – it’s cases as soon as not enough people are dying to justify it, and now that cases are getting lower and lower it’s the number of people vaccinated or the possibility of new variants. Also they just need to trot out a model saying x thousand will die per day if we’re not locked down. So it’s a pointless question really.

439438 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Ned of the Hills, 16, #1068 of 1400 🔗

Sorry to boringly keep stating the fucking obvious – but no-one knows the number of deaths from ‘Covid’. And no-one ever will.

439452 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to RickH, 12, #1069 of 1400 🔗

I can’t understand why anyone bothers to look any further than the all-cause mortality figures: that tells you everything you need to know. no signal of any kind of death spike whatever; no change in the demographic of the dying. Pandemic-what pandemic?

439460 ▶▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to JaneHarry, 2, #1070 of 1400 🔗

As Allen did the other day it is worth looking at various causes of death that haven’t changed in their symptoms but only in the way they are reported, like heart disease and Alzheimers.

You can clearly see the statistically significant drop off.

439626 ▶▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #1071 of 1400 🔗

There was a big spike in April. Not so sure about afterwards.

439624 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to RickH, #1072 of 1400 🔗

It would need an in-depth look at hospital clinical notes to get a clearer view, e.g. 1000 examples.
Deaths outside hospitals couldn’t reasonably be assessed, unless relatives can give an accurate description.
It could be done, possibly. Perhaps some enterprising research group might look into it in a year or two….

439448 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Ned of the Hills, 2, #1073 of 1400 🔗

The emergency approval of the tests 9n which the whole scam is based runs until early 2022.
Thereafter, they must find a new trick.
Which they surely will.

439392 Squire Western, replying to Squire Western, 24, #1074 of 1400 🔗

Odd to think that the £280 billion the government has spent so far in coronavirus measures could nearly be paid for by a single man – Jeff Bezos – should he wish. Instead he has become many billions richer, and the rest of us much poorer, as a result of the government’s panicked response. With the median age of death from Covid19 being 82, I can’t help but feel that the sensible response would have been to ‘Keep Calm and Carry On’, with no government interventions other than funding the search for a vaccine.

439446 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Squire Western, 2, #1075 of 1400 🔗

I think that figure must be lowballed.
For sure, it doesn’t include any eventual payments on the credit guarantees issued that will surely be called upon massively.
The numbers in Germany are in the region of 20% of GDP for those alone, sofar.

439395 Old Trout, replying to Old Trout, 50, #1076 of 1400 🔗

Though I can just about understand people taking the so-called vaccine for health reasons, because they have been frightened into it, or are doing it for some extreme reason such as saving a marriage or family relationship, I really can’t understand why people like Hitchins and many others are taking it ‘so that they will be able to travel.’

First of vaccine passports might not even come about. It’s obvious that they are planned, but a number of factors could prevent it happening: human rights concerns, the complexity of the issue between various nations, also it’s quite possible with their track record that our Govt could just ‘cack it up’, as with track and trace!

Maybe that’s being optimistic, but even if you take the worst possible view that the vax passports will definitely come about, it is, for all the reasons above, most probably going to be a good while yet. So why on earth not wait until you know for definite they will be needed in order to travel? By then there will also hopefully be much more information on the side effects of the vax which will enable a much more considered decision.

I’m certainly holding out against being ‘jabbed’, even though I am desperate to be able to travel, far more than most people. Not for holidays, but because my partner, my new house and new life are a few thousand miles away in Spain!

439431 ▶▶ Ianric, replying to Old Trout, 10, #1077 of 1400 🔗

I share the same view as to wait and see what happens with vaccines. I enjoy travelling and it is not something I want to give up but I don’t want to take a vaccine to be able to do so.

439439 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Old Trout, 17, #1078 of 1400 🔗

I would also wait because it seems likely that a traditional live attenuated virus vaccine will be developed in the not too distant future. If they really want to jab me, I’m having that one thank you very much.

439442 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1079 of 1400 🔗

Exactly.

439450 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Old Trout, 6, #1080 of 1400 🔗

I rely on some travel for my work. I’ve been jabbed a few times a few times for work trips, so no real issue with it. I do believe we need to stand our ground and argue the case against this though. Hitchens has made his decision and I believe might give him ammunition to fight his opponents.

439473 ▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Old Trout, 24, #1081 of 1400 🔗

I’m not interested in travelling again until my destination is back to normal , no vaccine, no tests, no masks, no quarantine, no curfew, no SD. It might be a while.

439515 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Fiona Walker, 6, #1082 of 1400 🔗

That’s exactly how I feel. I like the idea of traveling again, but not at all under the current circumstances. Even the places I’d theoretically want to go will be shells for their former selves even if there are no masks, SD, tests, vaccines, etc. A driving trip to Florida at some point may be the only traveling we can do for a good long time, but for now the Canada-US border is open only to essential vehicular traffic.

439559 ▶▶ Cheshirecatslave, replying to Old Trout, 1, #1083 of 1400 🔗

They most likely will have a different jab by the time anyone is allowed to leave prison island Britain because of the scary new mutation from outer Mongolia or Timbuktu.

439648 ▶▶ AshesThanDust, replying to Old Trout, 2, #1084 of 1400 🔗

My entire life plan (after bereavement and losing my entire field of work) was to travel. There is nothing more I would like. However the perilous path that the vaccine passports would take us down mean that I have no choice but to resist on principle. Damn!

439682 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to AshesThanDust, #1085 of 1400 🔗

I really hope you can get to travel without having to take a vaccine. I love travelling too and we had all sorts of plans for our retirement. My only hope now is that I can get to Spain before any passports are needed and then if they do come in for flights, etc, my only travelling will be in our motorhome round Spain – so may never go on a plane again!

439664 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to Old Trout, 2, #1086 of 1400 🔗

likewise holding out until at least the end of this year – see what happens on the uptake of the poison as more of the population are ‘offered’ it, reactions to the poison particularly going into autumn and if any evidence of ADE etc, and what happens on the social control passports, and if any more traditional vaxxs are released which are not mRNA.
Keep my head down and wait it out – and I love my travel! I’m being made redundant in june and was planning to travel round europe but this isn’t going to happen this year..ho humm!

439685 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to penelope pitstop, 2, #1087 of 1400 🔗

The more of us who can wait it out and refuse to be jabbed, the less likely the vax passport will be brought in, or at least it could be delayed. If everyone caves in expecting it to happen, it could become like a self fulfilling prophesy. I hope you can realise your travel plans at some point.

439412 Fingerache Philip, 14, #1088 of 1400 🔗

LOCKDOWN BRITAIN: Update on our little corner albeit on a main road of South Shropshire; in the words of Mrs FP: It’s like bloody Brands Hatch out there”.
Perhaps Bruce and Biker and their bro’s have paid us a visit

439424 JamesM, replying to JamesM, 16, #1089 of 1400 🔗

Today’s update page features some good political analysis, particularly the piece on Ferguson’s world view, which is clearly highly political even though Ferguson denies it. I also finally got round to viewing the Owen Jones video mentioned on the update page yesterday. This is pretty much what I would expect from an idiot in residence at The Guardian. I would suggest his vitriolic attack on Carl Heneghan etc, is motivated by a deep anger that these people point out certain facts that act to undermine his hope of establishing an authoritarian state ruled over by a woke elite. I think you will also find that certain influential members of SAGE are of the same mindset as Jones. It is a huge irony that a Conservative government is so beholden to these people.

439569 ▶▶ jos, replying to JamesM, 2, #1090 of 1400 🔗

The wokeness of Starmer / Biden and almost anyone in politics and the media is utterly fake and entirely designed to meet their own agenda – I just don’t think Owen Jones has realised that.

439426 Ianric, replying to Ianric, 4, #1091 of 1400 🔗

This is a question I would like to ask anyone who lives in an area which receives a lot of tourist. Do you have many people in your area who resent tourists, are not dependant for their income from tourists and loved lockdown as tourists were unable to visit. When tourists were allowed to visit again, were they terrified hordes of disease carriers were going to descend on them.

439432 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Ianric, 1, #1092 of 1400 🔗

You mean ‘What’s your experience of the good ole’ Nimby tendency?’ 🙂

439434 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ianric, 18, #1093 of 1400 🔗

I live in Pembrokeshire and my answer is an unequivocal ‘yes’. There are quite a lot of people in my town who grizzled and groused all last summer because some less fortunate folk dared to come here and enjoy themselves.

Those of us who work in tourism take a different view. We don’t want our town to die. The zombies want a dead town, as a safe abode for themselves, the living dead.
I may add that I met some wholly delightful people at my tourist attraction last summer, and look forward to meeting many more. The local zombies can hide under their beds till they rot.

439659 ▶▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to Annie, #1094 of 1400 🔗

I’ll come over to Pembrokeshire in my campervan when the regime throw us a carrot of liberty to travel into gulag wales! Spread a few english germs lol!

439447 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Ianric, 1, #1095 of 1400 🔗

Sadly yes.

439454 ▶▶ Alkanet, replying to Ianric, 2, #1096 of 1400 🔗

Yes reports of East Coast resorts and beauty spots in the Wolds telling the diseased wretches of Hull to stay away.

439466 ▶▶▶ Jane G, replying to Alkanet, #1097 of 1400 🔗

Where are these reports? I could fire off a couple of contradictory messages if it’s online…

439469 ▶▶▶▶ Alkanet, replying to Jane G, #1098 of 1400 🔗

The Hull Daily Mail (Mirror Group) but that was last year, they’ve since limited which online articles can be commented on and frequently censor these by removing comments or disallowing them.

439480 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jane G, replying to Alkanet, 2, #1099 of 1400 🔗

A rag at the best of times…

439487 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Alkanet, replying to Jane G, 2, #1100 of 1400 🔗

Absolutely and getting worse by the day, it has no sense of humour whatsoever and seems to be in thrall to snowflake wokeness despite the vile attitudes of the most frequent respondents.

439455 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Ianric, 5, #1101 of 1400 🔗

I live between two small seaside towns. One is cheap and cheerful and has been really relaxed throughout ( with a couple of exceptions ). The other town is as middle class as it’s possible to get and has been notably more uptight.

439509 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Ianric, 5, #1102 of 1400 🔗

So Ontario was the only Canadian province to shut down skiing this winter, but they got the green light to open up a few weeks ago. There’s a resort 30 minutes from us but the locals were not happy about Blue Mountain opening. Not sure if the term is used in the UK, but people in the country call Torontonians “cidiots” and don’t want them coming up here and “infecting” locals. We have a colour-coded system akin to your tier system and the crazy thing is that the ski hills are just on the other side of the county line in the green zone, which is the most open, but the town where lots of people stay and spend money is in the red zone and moving to the grey zone (worse) on Monday. So now the locals are even more pissed off that the cidiots can continue coming to Grey County to ski while they are very close to complete lockdown again. Unfortunately, they are part of a county that has a city that’s driving the “cases” even though their local hospital is empty. Great way to pit people against each other, but I guess that’s a feature and not a bug.

439433 A. Contrarian, replying to A. Contrarian, 43, #1103 of 1400 🔗

The Guardian think that lockdown was amazing because of all the people volunteering – apparently they were helping to fight loneliness, isn’t that great, when it was lockdown that caused the loneliness in the first place? Typical Guardian cr*p – and I used to be a reader.

439611 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to A. Contrarian, 6, #1104 of 1400 🔗

Many of us used to be readers.

But not now.

439639 ▶▶ AshesThanDust, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1105 of 1400 🔗

I signed up to the NHS Volunteer Scheme as soon as I heard of it. Have had the app “on call” since I was accepted. Never given a single assignment. I am lonely as fuck.

439714 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1106 of 1400 🔗

Me too – gone completely opposite to its founding ethos!

439457 stefarm, replying to stefarm, 13, #1107 of 1400 🔗

Pottering about in the garden today, in the garden box full of pots, bucket, gardening tools etc I found a copy of the sun newspaper from 21st march 2020, decided to have a look.

Wow, the psy op was clearly laid out from day 1, 7 pages devoted to spreading fear and panic. Colourful doom laden graphs, a bit about wills and Katie visiting a 911 call centre in Croydon (clearly they were in the frame for influencing the plebs from the start), socially distanced of course!!! And a bit about how the vaccine was being engineered as well as a double page spread showing panic buying big roll. There is also mention of lockdown lasting 12 months!!!

439461 ▶▶ CGL, replying to stefarm, 4, #1108 of 1400 🔗

So March 22nd it’s all over then?

439504 ▶▶▶ stefarm, replying to CGL, 1, #1109 of 1400 🔗

According to sun columnist mystic meg

439516 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to stefarm, #1110 of 1400 🔗

Will she double up as someone to stick a hex on them if they don’t let us out of jail by that date?

439476 ▶▶ Liberty, replying to stefarm, 15, #1111 of 1400 🔗

What a discovery! I think it’s worth keeping as part of history. It could be used in lessons on government propaganda and how it led to the deception and destruction of a nation.

I wonder what the headlines will say a year from now?

RIOTS IN THE WEST END

POWER CUTS FROM MIDNIGHT TO 7AM

CLIMATE LOCKDOWN

HANCOCK ON TRIAL

STARMER TAKE OVER

VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE

CANCER DEATHS OVERTAKE COVID DEATHS

BUBONIC PLAGUE RETURNS

MOUSE FLU FEARS

VACCINE DEATHS SCANDAL

REFUSNIKS ATTACKED

FREE AT LAST

LOOTING CHAOS

SUPERMARKET SHELVES EMPTY

FUEL RATIONS

Any other ideas?

439488 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Liberty, 11, #1112 of 1400 🔗

QUEEN CUTS TAPE ON NEW GULAG FOR SELFISH ANTI-VAXXERS.

HOSPITALS OVERWHELMED AS NEW MIAMI/MINSK/PIERRE VARIANT ATTACKS.

CHANCELLOR RAISES TAXES TO 100% FOR VACCINE REFUSENIKS.

LARGE CROWDS GATHER OUTSIDE THE TOWER AS BORIS, FERGUSON, WHITTY, VALANCE, HANCOCK AND MICHIE ARE HANGED.

439533 ▶▶▶▶ jos, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 3, #1113 of 1400 🔗

HUMANITY GIVES UP AND THE LIZARD PEOPLE TAKE OVER (someone had to do it).

439543 ▶▶▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to jos, #1114 of 1400 🔗

🤣 🤣 🤣

439828 ▶▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #1115 of 1400 🔗

I like the last paragraph

439827 ▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Liberty, #1116 of 1400 🔗

All of the above

439462 Elisabeth, replying to Elisabeth, 24, #1117 of 1400 🔗

AND ALL MY FORMER CLASSMATES STILL THINK ITS ABOUT A VIRUS. I COULD SCREAM NEARLY CONTINUOUSLY. They trot out „allll these Covid deaths“ because they believe everything the MSM feed them

439478 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Elisabeth, 23, #1118 of 1400 🔗

bah bah

439464 Ken Garoo, replying to Ken Garoo, 15, #1119 of 1400 🔗

“To date, the Government has spent more than £280 billion in Coronavirus relief, merrily funded by borrowing at ultra low interest rates and quantitative easing.”

The interest alone on that will be £280 million to £2.8 billion a year at current rates. Any money that the government acquires will first go to paying off that debt. It interest rates rise, as the banksters now hope, that debt will reduce everyone to penury.

The debts should be declared odious debts as they were incurred under false pretences.

439477 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Ken Garoo, 16, #1120 of 1400 🔗

They should confiscate all the property of all the prominent lockdown proponents and beneficiaries to pay it off.

439554 ▶▶▶ jos, replying to JayBee, 7, #1121 of 1400 🔗

You know what? They won’t do any of the above. You know why? Because the whole aim was to trash the economy. They’ve almost got there – just one more push..

439484 ▶▶ A Heretic, replying to Ken Garoo, 4, #1122 of 1400 🔗

and that’s just the relief spending and is probably an underestimate. The total monetary cost once you factor in all the destroyed businesses will be well over £1 trillion.

439495 ▶▶ happychappy, replying to Ken Garoo, 19, #1123 of 1400 🔗

A Covid Windfall Tax should be imposed on all the organisations who have profited massively from the ‘pandemic’. Vaccine companies, Amazon, text & trace contractors, etc. They are pretty much the only ones who can afford to pay. Why should UK businesses and employees who have just about managed to survive Government-enforced restrictions be forced to pay?

439526 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to happychappy, 4, #1124 of 1400 🔗

Especially Serco!

439581 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Ken Garoo, 3, #1125 of 1400 🔗

I would create a mask tax of about £1000 per mask, should stop people wearing them in their tracks, ok may not raise much money if people stop wearing them but everything has a silver lining.

439467 Prof Feargoeson, 17, #1126 of 1400 🔗

Today I followed Phan Tom’s edict to the letter by never leaving England, my home. I got a 12 miler in on another splendid blue sky day. I may have strayed into the next county for a few hours but I was keen to see if they had survived Season Two of the Great Pandemic too. Again very little anti-SD out there in the villages I walked through though I interrupted a wall-facer mid-turn with a smile and hello – he was surprised into returning the smile before hurriedly turning away. Passed within a foot of some people. Don’t recall seeing any muzzles.

439468 Sam Vimes, replying to Sam Vimes, 43, #1127 of 1400 🔗

Aaaannnddd there it is! Radio news just now, six days after the ‘roadmap’ with all its ‘if’s and ‘only’s.. You guessed it, “First cases of a new variant, thought to be more naughty, blah, blah”. Might as well call it the polythene virus, this is so transparently fake…

439470 ▶▶ IvanDP, replying to Sam Vimes, 18, #1128 of 1400 🔗

You’re fucking kidding.
When will these weasels ever give up?

439472 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Sam Vimes, 7, #1129 of 1400 🔗

The Manaus Variant. Perhaps the most Scary of all to date. That Amazon has a lot to answer for – no wonder Fishi is upping their tax!

439503 ▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 2, #1130 of 1400 🔗

Upping the taxation on the customers though.

439552 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #1131 of 1400 🔗

Amazon … Manaus … Obidos … the possibilities are endless.

439474 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Sam Vimes, 15, #1132 of 1400 🔗

It’s just soo desperate. People have to be seeing through this bollocks now.

439479 ▶▶ Jonny S., replying to Sam Vimes, 22, #1133 of 1400 🔗

Hopefully it’s the Yorkshire variant.

“Right I’m only infectin one o yer, the rest can bugger off, what do you think I am, made of protein spikes or summat.

439500 ▶▶▶ straightalkingyorkshireman, replying to Jonny S., 4, #1134 of 1400 🔗

Eye thats the one…

439657 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Jonny S., 3, #1135 of 1400 🔗

“If tha does owt for nowt, do it for thee sen” – not for everyone else’s granny!

439719 ▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Fiona Walker, 1, #1136 of 1400 🔗

“Eat all, sup all, pay nowt”. Is that the fellah?

439524 ▶▶ J4mes, replying to Sam Vimes, 24, #1137 of 1400 🔗

I’ve noticed another very predictable occurrence; lockdown fanatics are increasingly blaming lockdown on those who oppose it. The argument is that (after a whole year) because we don’t want an extremely dubious injection stuck in our arm, we are now responsible for the UK regime’s continued abuse.

Someone wrote on this site last week that many of the fanatics are displaying symptoms of Stockholm Syndrome. I think they were 100% correct.

439603 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to J4mes, 4, #1138 of 1400 🔗

It wouldn’t matter if 100% of the UK population was vaccinated.

Lockdown fanatics should look across the pond at Florida and explain why, if there’s not been widespread vaccination yet, no winter lockdown, they’re doing better than us on deaths, cases, and the economy.

439602 ▶▶ Custerhaditcoming, replying to Sam Vimes, 2, #1139 of 1400 🔗

*****STOP PRESS *****
Wee krankie has just confirmed a new variant. It is currently confirmed as the Twatt variant from Orkney.

439483 houdini, replying to houdini, 41, #1140 of 1400 🔗

Prince Andrew has just called young ladies reluctant to take the prick “selfish “

439499 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to houdini, 19, #1141 of 1400 🔗

Prince Charles said he had to isolate for many days with Covid 19 last year.
Prince Andrew said he never met her & was in Pizza Express Woking the whole time.

439502 ▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 6, #1142 of 1400 🔗

Wouldn’t it need to be Covid-15 for it to be somewhat true to life?

439558 ▶▶▶▶ jos, replying to jb12, 1, #1143 of 1400 🔗

So sorry- literally just wrote the same thing before reading yours – sorry!

439555 ▶▶▶ jos, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 2, #1144 of 1400 🔗

That was covid15..

439506 ▶▶ ElizaP, replying to houdini, 5, #1145 of 1400 🔗

Which prick would we be talking about – the jab or him? #saidwithlookoffauxinnocence

439667 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to ElizaP, 5, #1146 of 1400 🔗

I believe he’s now known as Ince Andrew. He had a bit of a Pr disaster. 🙂

439529 ▶▶ isobar, replying to houdini, 2, #1147 of 1400 🔗

Once ‘pricked’ twice shy?

439490 awildgoose, replying to awildgoose, 4, #1148 of 1400 🔗

Sky News AU shreds the controllers’ socialist vision for the future of the world:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/socialism-global-scale-sky-news-host-demolishes-davos-elites-and-great-reset-scheme

439597 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to awildgoose, 3, #1149 of 1400 🔗

SNA have been pretty rock solid on CV19 lockdowns, climate change, etc.
Shame we don’t have a similar tv channel here. We might have been out of lockdown by now.

439507 Ken Garoo, replying to Ken Garoo, 11, #1150 of 1400 🔗

“Lockdown Sceptics ’ Legal Experts on Covid Testing in Schools”
The legal team at ‘Law or Fiction’ have produced a pro-forma letter that concerned parents can use. It is based on English law, but can be adapted as necessary.

https://laworfiction.com/2021/02/stopping-masks-and-face-covering-in-schools/

“The letter is also a formal and detailed ‘letter before action’ of the sort solicitors would send before start Court proceedings. Using the letter does not oblige you to take any further action. However, if schools and authorities do not respond as demanded, it may allow proceeding to be started quickly. This is important since mask policies are being introduced quickly.”

439562 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Ken Garoo, 1, #1151 of 1400 🔗

Thank you.

439508 Liberty, 24, #1152 of 1400 🔗

People are ignoring Hancock,
Families’ playing in the sun,
We won’t listen to your rules,
We’re too busy having fun.

We are hugging all our family,
So Hancock ‘in your face’,
Your lockdown rules are over,
We think you’re a disgrace.

You rule by whim of science,
Which can change from hour to hour,
There are no facts to back your claims,
Or justify your power.

The people in this country,
Are starting to awake,
What lies will you now peddle out?
We know that it’s all fake.

Have you done enough,
To destroy as you intend?
What’s next on all the plans for us?
Will this ever truly end?

439510 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 24, #1153 of 1400 🔗

I was half-watching the prog this evening (as my OH had it on the TV) about fishermen (or should we say ‘fisher folk’?) And how they had been thrown under a bus to appease Johnson’s ”EU friends’ ‘ (as he still refers to them). When I commented, my OH switched off, accusing me of always being confrontational (not the exact words).
We disagree on much now – while still keeping that bond that glued us together in the first place. It seems to me that the ”divide and rule” manipulation, devised by Johnson’s risibly-named ”SAG”(redundant ‘E’) probably has worked well with most, even dividing families, as seen with the comments here.
On a personal level, we’ll survive despite this, though we may be too old to enjoy our plans for retirement by the time we’re ”let out” (and there may not be much time left for survival). I don’t intend to say ”I told you so” – but at the moment I feel so sickened by Johnson and his perfidious cohort I can see why family members are at odds. WE are not going to be part of the fall-out – but I can quite see how people are driven to quite violent dissent.
How bloody clever self-serving Johnson and his devious and evil cohort have been. Useful idiots, no doubt, but evil nonetheless.

439517 ▶▶ Robin Birch, replying to Banjones, 14, #1154 of 1400 🔗

It’s a well used tactic. Divide and rule at all levels.Bastards the lot of them. He’s driven a rift through this retired couple that’s for sure -42 years married

439528 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Banjones, 13, #1155 of 1400 🔗

My wife gets more direction from her two sisters in the NHS than from me so I am sure you can guess how that goes. However, I’ve made it clear our kids are the red line. None of this weekly testing or masks and certainly no vaccine.

439541 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Banjones, 8, #1156 of 1400 🔗

Problem is the Covidians and useful idiots that seem to make up the majority of the population rave about the Jab of Joy or are proud to have Played Their Part and will rush to gush about it. Anyone who doesn’t will be tacitly outing themselves.

439587 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Prof Feargoeson, #1157 of 1400 🔗

Hahaha that made me laugh the Jab of Joy

439662 ▶▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 1, #1158 of 1400 🔗

Jab of joy made me chuckle, what’s joy?

Just
One
Year

Shame that some would believe that

439548 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Banjones, 11, #1159 of 1400 🔗

Same here. Whenever I want to discuss what’s going on OH jokes, resists, changes subject, offers me a glass of wine, anything to not ‘go over it all again’. He is sceptical ish now, getting more so the longer it drags on (so in that sense he’s my bel weather) but whenever we do end up ranting I always point out ‘don’t you think this is part of it? Locking people down so they can’t share or discuss with others? Expecting one or the other of us to go mad. This, this is all part of it’…..eye rolls, door slams etc. Won’t be the end of us but certainly a strain.

439594 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #1160 of 1400 🔗

My OH frequently tells me to shut up, but not because he disagrees. I think he prefers to pay attention to other more frivolous things, e.g. watching comedy videos, or videos about musicians from the sixties, or whatever. It’s a distraction, and stops him getting wound up about it all.
I’m lucky in that none of my family disagree with my view on this situation, and that includes my cousin in the US.
My friends are a different matter, so I have tended not to get into an argument about it.

439512 ElizaP, replying to ElizaP, 25, #1161 of 1400 🔗

Thought for the day – after an in person conversation with a fellow sceptic. When he said he objected to anyone asking him personal medical information (ie as to whether he has had the jab) my rejoinder was that I thought I might fire a personal medical question back at the person doing the asking. That being to ask them if they’d ever had a personal illness of an embarrassing nature #cough (if you get my drift). We both laughed at the sort of response I might get back – eg “How dare you? I’m a happily married woman and have been for 40 years (ie I wouldnt have an illness like that)”. Obvious response from me – “Well you were the one that started that – ie by asking me a personal medical question. So I’ve just asked you one in return”. I am now waiting my chance to spring a reply like that back on any covidiot daft enough to ask me if I’ve had the jab.

439560 ▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to ElizaP, 4, #1162 of 1400 🔗

Love this. Now desperately hoping somebody asks me!

439619 ▶▶▶ Alice, replying to disgruntled246, #1163 of 1400 🔗

Brilliant! I’m definitely going to try this.

439583 ▶▶ Mic67, replying to ElizaP, #1164 of 1400 🔗

I have a good reply/conversation stopper.
When people ask me, I will say actually I have a 0.005% chance of dying of coronavirus which, weirdly is exactly the same odds my neurosurgeon gave me of my brain aneurysms bursting. True and likely TMI for most. 😀

439666 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to ElizaP, #1165 of 1400 🔗

Great idea, on this note… I saw a comment recently (relating to the vax passports thing) where someone gave the arguments against it – saying vax passports are divisive, discriminatory, & nobody has the right to your medical information to get into a pub, or whatever, and said whatever next – will anyone using dating apps/sites, be required to give your dating history upfront, inc. evidence of treatment for STD’s? A number of responses to the effect that this was a brilliant idea, & they were going to campaign to get this included in dating sites & apps, like Tinder and Plenty of Fish!!

439535 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Basileus, 11, #1167 of 1400 🔗

Is anyone in the UK doing RCT testing on:-

  1. asymptomatic transmission
  2. efficacy of masks both ways (does it protect me, or others, or both)
  3. effectiveness of social distancing

If not why not? Obviously the Medical Dictatorship or Big Pharma won’t be giving out grants for these kind of studies as the above are the absolute lynchpins of their authority but surely someone is interested in the real science?

439553 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 11, #1168 of 1400 🔗

No one’s interested. But if it was “all about the virus” then the government would be using a tiny proportion of the billions currently splurged on nonsense, to research these vital issues.

439575 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to OKUK, 6, #1169 of 1400 🔗

Above all, they would have spent a few millions on properly designed RCTs reg. the cheap existing treatments.
The fact that they didn’t but resorted to a fatwa on them is the best proof that this is not, never was and never will be about public health.

439577 ▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to JayBee, 2, #1170 of 1400 🔗

You are absolutely right. Voicesforfreedom.co.nz talks about this. But there are lots of other voices raised.
Will it make any difference? I wonder.

439591 ▶▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to OKUK, 4, #1171 of 1400 🔗

If it was about the virus, they might have paid more attention to places that hadn’t locked down their citizens, e.g., Florida, Nepal, etc.

439637 ▶▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to LMS2, 5, #1172 of 1400 🔗

They might have expanded NHS capacity last summer in preparation for the second wave they kept talking about.Instead they stripped the nightingales bare.

439574 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 5, #1173 of 1400 🔗

Let’s face it – there are many many things that could have been intensively studied in the past year. Producing a better, less invasive ”test” for one (though obsessive testing was never needed). Working on theraputics and prophylactics too, so that vaccines weren’t so important. Instead, all the money and time has been put into pointless ”catching up” stuff, of no good to anyone or anything.

Well, of COURSE vaccines are important. Silly me. They bring in huge amounts of money for Johnson’s handlers and his ”EU friends”.

439578 ▶▶ Mic67, replying to Basileus, 5, #1174 of 1400 🔗

This is essentially massive news that blows this entire shitshow out of the water but of course if anyone took any notice then they wouldn’t be able to search our buttholes for a cold or make ££££ for their Maxines.

439523 SR, #1175 of 1400 🔗

FFS!
The masses start to enjoy the sunshine…so time for a new, even scarier variant to keep the proles in check.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56233038

439527 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 4, #1176 of 1400 🔗

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/28/if-oestrogen-can-save-women-from-the-worst-of-covid-they-should-be-given-it

Another possible treatment to reduce hospitalisations – only benefits the fairer sex! Nonetheless, if this keeps people away from hospitals and reduces the opportunities for the NHS to claim that it is overloaded, this would be welcome.

439537 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Ewan Duffy, 5, #1177 of 1400 🔗

It also happens to cause quite a few problems for women, but of course it if saves just one life for covid then that’s fine of course.

439616 ▶▶▶ Alice, replying to Cumbriacracked, #1178 of 1400 🔗

Unfortunately, a big no-no for breast cancer survivors.

439617 ▶▶▶ wendy, replying to Cumbriacracked, 3, #1179 of 1400 🔗

Oh but, oh but it doesn’t matter what happens to any of us just so long we protect the NHS!!! Perhaps time to set up our own hospitals

439673 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to wendy, #1180 of 1400 🔗

Exactly, the people who say these things really have no idea, oh let’s just use something which can cause so many problems for women where the chances or survival is far lower than the deadly virus.

439531 DThom, replying to DThom, 22, #1181 of 1400 🔗

Disgusting Mail on Sunday articles today under the banner ‘Stop the vaccine lies’
Firstly previously mentioned Hitchens betrayal although probably more to do with keeping his job!
Then we get a ‘special investigation’ from ex Cameron aide Ian Birrell’. This ‘investigation’ is a one way trip concerning a bewildering tangle of lies and conspiracy theories spread on social media’. Of course its all about selfish people refusing the gene therapy!
These writers claim to be journalists!
Think the Mail on Sunday just lost another reader.

439534 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to DThom, 4, #1182 of 1400 🔗

MOS has always been atrocious

439641 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to DanClarke, 1, #1183 of 1400 🔗

And Peter Hitchens duplicitous.

439540 ▶▶ J4mes, replying to DThom, 20, #1184 of 1400 🔗

I’ve been tarred and feathered for calling Hitchens controlled opposition on here a couple months ago. If you understand how controlled opposition works, PH ticks all the boxes. He never betrayed us, he was never one of us.

439571 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to J4mes, 4, #1185 of 1400 🔗

He must know this. His ”coming out” can’t have been spontaneous or its fallout unforeseen.
No doubt we’ll find out why he appeared suddenly to weaken.

439586 ▶▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Banjones, 7, #1186 of 1400 🔗

He’s on Talk Radio tomorrow, with Mike Graham (assuming no scheduling changes), so maybe we’ll find out then.
He wants to visit family abroad, as do many other people. But the more that comply, the more the PTB win.

439592 ▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Banjones, 12, #1187 of 1400 🔗

For years he has said the country is finished.He advocated emigrating for young people and styled himself as the countries obituarist.
In the article he actually called it a surrender.
Having thought about it today maybe he has just had enough.Those in the public eye have faced personal attacks and who knows what pressure his employer place led him under.
It doesn’t change anything;mass civil disobedience or even violence will be needed to stop this.

439653 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Banjones, 2, #1188 of 1400 🔗

No doubt, he was threatened with the push, if he didn’t get on side with the vaccines. The Covid event is totally focussed around these dubious products, which are masquerading as vaccines. Everything else about Covid is simply pump priming to get us to agree with being lethally injected. Covid “vaccination” is only for the braindead and regrettably their number now includes Peter Hitchens, at least for a short while.

439645 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to J4mes, 3, #1189 of 1400 🔗

It wasn’t me, I hasten to add. He was always going to cave when the pressure built up.

439547 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to DThom, 3, #1190 of 1400 🔗

Birrell is one of the worst.

439545 Cheshirecatslave, replying to Cheshirecatslave, 22, #1191 of 1400 🔗

A good service at church today. I was at the front as it wasmy turn to read so I could sing as loudly as I wanted. We prayed both for someone with covid and an anorexia sufferer(I’ve heard lockdown has triggered eating disorders.) Sad to hear one lady say she yearned for a meal with her daughter, another said her young grandson longed to hug her.
One old man was fretting a group he had seen picnicking together ‘might be breaking too many rules.’ I told him they would be fine outside.

We all chatted normally after the service and masks are now often worn under noses.

One disabled older lady is angry we can’t have meals together at church.I sympathised with her.

My handyman then came and told me he didn’t believe in lockdown and was living life as normal between work, walking his dog and doing odd jobs for folk, but he saw lots of scared folk on his walks.

439557 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Cheshirecatslave, 22, #1192 of 1400 🔗

Why doesn’t that woman just have a meal with her daughter? Seriously….what has happened to people?

439640 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Andrea Salford, 8, #1193 of 1400 🔗

They have been conditioned by the BBC, that it might be for the best, if they never see their children or grandchildren ever again. It’s all for the best you know..

439779 ▶▶▶▶ Jane G, replying to Rowan, #1194 of 1400 🔗

I wonder what the worst would look like!

439643 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #1195 of 1400 🔗

Because she’s never moved on from being a good little schoolgirl, doing as Teacher tells her.

439733 ▶▶▶ Cheshirecatslave, replying to Andrea Salford, #1196 of 1400 🔗

They tell her it isn’t safe. I often have a meal with my cleaning lady.

439595 ▶▶ james007, replying to Cheshirecatslave, 2, #1197 of 1400 🔗

Thank you for sharing.
Sadly my nearest open Church is 24 miles away, which I cannot get to. However on th plus side, I have discovered the beautiful poetry of the BCP, and read it on my own and listen to beautiful and enriching music.

439735 ▶▶▶ Cheshirecatslave, replying to james007, 1, #1198 of 1400 🔗

Very few churches in my area are open so I feel blessed. The vicar is a lady in her 70’s who cares about her flock.

439642 ▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to Cheshirecatslave, 6, #1199 of 1400 🔗

That’s so sad, not hugging your grandchildren, heartbreaking to deny them. My grandsons like velcro when I see him. I’d never forgive myself if I’d put him through that kind of torture we all need human contact. He’s a big fan of super heroes and when he’s talked about Rona (I could see he was worried about it) I told him he had his own super power like his heroes called an immune system it’s an invisible shield that stops Rona and keeps you healthy. He’s 8 he liked the thought of a super power!
I also have a 7 month old granddaughter, I can’t imagine not knowing her which would have been the case if I’d complied!

439736 ▶▶▶ Cheshirecatslave, replying to Yorkie lass, 1, #1200 of 1400 🔗

I’m so glad you do hug them.

439781 ▶▶▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to Cheshirecatslave, #1201 of 1400 🔗

Thanks, their smiling faces and a cuddle, priceless!! They won’t get any fear from me only love and the truth

439549 BeBopRockSteady, 15, #1202 of 1400 🔗

A memorial for the Covid-19 fallen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56228771

Those who died of withdrawal of the NHS need not apply.

439550 FedupofLies, replying to FedupofLies, 32, #1203 of 1400 🔗

The Duke of Cornwall has been summoned to the bedside of the Duke of Edinburgh, so if they say he died of Covid they will try to induce national hysteria? They will say he never had the full regime of vaccines or something.

Their whole house needs to be brought down. After Nuremberg.

439564 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to FedupofLies, 3, #1204 of 1400 🔗

Surely you can see that this is a distraction? This is about family and someone beloved dying. Your republican sympathies can wait for a time when we regain our freedoms – which are NOT at risk under our monarchy.

439598 ▶▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to Banjones, 3, #1205 of 1400 🔗

What freedoms?

439631 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Ewan Duffy, 2, #1206 of 1400 🔗

Quite.

439644 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Banjones, 7, #1207 of 1400 🔗

OH FUCK OFF!

They are the fucking monarchy and are standing by while TOTALITARIANISM and planned CHILD EXPERIMENTATION is taking place.

It’s gloryhole boys like you who doff their fucking caps to these tossers.

Oh, yes, sir! No, sir! Three bags full, sir.

Republican sympathies? I went off the monarchy a while back but was NEVER passionate about it.

END THE MONARCHY!

FUCK THE QUEEN!

439576 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to FedupofLies, 6, #1208 of 1400 🔗

At the age he is, sadly death is probably pretty close. I really hope this is not used to induce more covid hysteria and propaganda.

If he does die there will be plenty of people who would want to attend a state funeral, this isn’t going to go down well with everything (not) going on.

Irrespective of anyone’s view on monarchy he is still a loved family member and if his death happens it should not be used to further a governments agenda.

439633 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Cumbriacracked, 10, #1209 of 1400 🔗

I’m glad you feel sorry for them, but I won’t be joining in.

439670 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Rowan, 2, #1210 of 1400 🔗

I feel as sorry for them as I would for you if a loved one, irrespective of age, died. Having empathy for people whether you know them or not when someone dies is a part of life, it may not be for you or FedupofLies but it is for me. Whether people are pro, indifferent or anti monarchy is irrelevant, a person is a father, grandfather and great grandfather of family members and they will be sad when he dies. That is the same whether he is a Prince or a pauper. No matter what, his death should not be used by the government or anyone else to further a cause.

439680 ▶▶▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to Cumbriacracked, 1, #1211 of 1400 🔗

I agree with you CC. I’m angry but I’m not about to ditch my natural inclination to feel sympathy/empathy for others just because of how many silver spoons they might have been born with.

439650 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Cumbriacracked, 4, #1212 of 1400 🔗

Ah, RUBBISH!

They have ENABLED the ethnic cleansing of their own people. And now endorsed tyranny and child experimentation.

Sad? He’s very old. Nothing sad about an old man dieing. Save your sympathyies for the common scum who died alone some of them of thirst by loving nurses.

FUCK THE QUEEN! FUCK CAPTAIN TOM! FUCK THE DUKE OF EDINBURGH!

439700 ▶▶▶▶ Christopher, replying to FedupofLies, 8, #1213 of 1400 🔗

Hear Hear , Fuck them all and fuck the Queen , she broke her coronation oath to uphold the English constitution and went missing as Albion and it’s people were sold down the river to global interests . Two of her son’s are or were best friends with notorious paedophiles and child traffickers . Now she is endorsing dangerous gene therapy for ” her loyal subjects ” .
I used to think they served a purpose in my younger days ( tourism and continuity with the past ) but now we see them for the disloyal parasites they always were . They need to go , ALL of them .

439629 ▶▶ Rowan, replying to FedupofLies, 3, #1214 of 1400 🔗

If I can be guaranteed good health till I’m 99, I won’t mind dying of Covid, whatever it really is.

439717 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to FedupofLies, 5, #1215 of 1400 🔗

I was intrigued that every report I have heard about ‘the Duke’ has stressed his hospitalisation is not covid related. I can see two reasons for this: first, it might raise questions about the efficacy of the vaccine, and, second, it might lead to complacency as people will think that if the royal family can’t avoid it why should the general public believe that the lockdown and social distancing are of any benefit.

439561 isobar, replying to isobar, 39, #1216 of 1400 🔗


Remember when anyone going to the beach was called a ‘covidiot’?

Times have changed, see DM readers comments on this article .

Game over as far as staying at home is concerned. JVT eat your heart out (if you have one).

‘It’s too nice to stay indoors! Sun-worshippers hit the quays, beaches and parks despite Covid lockdown as Spring arrives tomorrow with forecasters predicting a sizzling 73F by April’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9309235/Shoppers-hit-streets-sunworshippers-sea-despite-Covid-lockdown.html

Best rated readers comment 1321 upticks 83 downticks

‘Good, being in the fresh air getting Vitamin D is much better than sitting in a warm heated germy home. People are making a stand against this, they have had enough.’

Other best rated comments are much the same.

439563 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to isobar, 19, #1217 of 1400 🔗

It really does make you wonder, though, who these 83 downtick people are. Even that many in our society is a serious number. The fact that they’re probably behind their sofas is perhaps cheering.

439566 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Banjones, 4, #1218 of 1400 🔗

Yes, I wondered the same. Don’t know whether to laugh or cry for them.

439627 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Banjones, 9, #1219 of 1400 🔗

77th Brigade get paid to be arseholes, with our money.

439720 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Rowan, 1, #1220 of 1400 🔗

And they do it very well.

439632 ▶▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to Banjones, 4, #1221 of 1400 🔗

there’s plenty of karens out there on facebook etc criticising anyone having any fun outside at all

439606 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 3, #1222 of 1400 🔗

A sizzling 73F by April? Yesterday there was going to be an unprecedented “snow bomb” in the coming weeks and we would experience a White Easter…

439651 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to isobar, 4, #1223 of 1400 🔗

Don’t worry!

Gates has a nice shiny new virus or some kind of other event to stir things up.

439730 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to FedupofLies, 1, #1224 of 1400 🔗

ADEs

439729 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to isobar, #1225 of 1400 🔗

The ticks seem to have been culled.

439567 Tenchy, replying to Tenchy, 37, #1226 of 1400 🔗

From The Telegraph coronavirus live feed (free)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-vaccine-uk-cases-lockdown-pfizer-latest/

This statement from the chief executive of NHS Providers, Chris Hopson:

“And there’s a further challenge, to design a workforce model to enable us to do this [vaccinate the entire population] year in year out.”

So not just a one off then?

439568 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Tenchy, 30, #1227 of 1400 🔗

Did anyone seriously think it would be a one off?

439695 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to LMS2, 7, #1228 of 1400 🔗

Gates’, the Valley’s and most industries preferred business model now is subscription/recurring revenues.
THAT’S why he invested into vaccines in the first place and why this scam is led by tech and pharma.
Constant testing, vaccines and apps for the healthy/everyone are a dream come true for them.
Forget oncology, hip replacements or pacemakers.

439702 ▶▶▶▶ jos, replying to JayBee, 6, #1229 of 1400 🔗

‘Forget oncology, hip replacements or pacemakers.’ They have.

439711 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to LMS2, 1, #1230 of 1400 🔗

They’ve consistently told us it wouldn’t be – they even said every three or four months at one point!

439570 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Tenchy, 19, #1231 of 1400 🔗

This guy is reprehensible, should have no platform to speak on this as an ‘expert’. Was torn apart by JHB on talk radio.

439579 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Tenchy, 10, #1232 of 1400 🔗

So they are already starting with the new variant scam.

439596 ▶▶▶ Mic67, replying to jonathan Palmer, 4, #1233 of 1400 🔗

Yeah they even have the person who didn’t fill out the test card….added level of fear as they could be walking among us…

439620 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to jonathan Palmer, 7, #1234 of 1400 🔗

Yes it was always on the cards and was easy to predict. These people are not clever and will deserve all they get.

439635 ▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Rowan, 8, #1235 of 1400 🔗

I knew it was on the cards just surprised it was so quick.They cannot open up before everyone has been jabbed because the whole scam will fall apart.

439582 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Tenchy, 5, #1236 of 1400 🔗

So they are getting us primed for further lockdowns although I had thought that pesky little Brazilian mutant was already here!

439588 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Tenchy, 7, #1237 of 1400 🔗

So Utter Nutter Talks Utter Tripe on Utter Sold Out Telegraph. Again !….
Glad I cancelled my subs.

439604 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Tenchy, 13, #1238 of 1400 🔗

Funny how they can put the effort in to jab people year in year out, but not to perform other medical procedures or appointments.

439608 ▶▶▶ Barbara Baker, replying to A. Contrarian, 3, #1239 of 1400 🔗

One way to deal with looming unemployment I guess

439622 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Barbara Baker, 4, #1240 of 1400 🔗

Dead men don’t need jobs.

439669 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to A. Contrarian, 12, #1241 of 1400 🔗

Try getting an appointment with the GP. Phone sometime in the afternoon. Grumpy receptionist says you have to call again at 8 in the morning to get in the queue for a hard-pressed doctor to phone back later in the day if he/she has time. But … to promote the Covid jab, they’ll phone you several times a day for more than week. I’ve been ignoring the calls but tomorrow we’ll have a chat about this.

439740 ▶▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Steve F, 4, #1242 of 1400 🔗

I know, sympathies, mine is the same. Even got snarky about one phone call to chase up an unauthorised prescription – can’t have their time wasted like that, you know, making sure people don’t run out of essential medication.

When it comes to my turn to be called up for the jab, my plan is to ignore all forms of communication, even if they turn up at the door.

439618 ▶▶ Rowan, replying to Tenchy, 10, #1243 of 1400 🔗

Yes they’re showing their hand, without bothering too much these days. This is outright war on the people and we have to fight back.

439658 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Tenchy, 4, #1244 of 1400 🔗

The silver lining to all this is they’ve blown their cover and exposed themselves as the manic drug pushing pharma mafia… it was once highly unfashionable to disapprove of smoking. Anti-smokers were shunned. Like anti-vaxxers. Then people started waking up, the court cases started and now……
So just give it 20 years. We are on the downward slide now.

439589 The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 47, #1245 of 1400 🔗

Prediction for November/October 2021:- Whitty or his successor will be rolled out to say: ‘sadly there have been too many people who have selfishly refused the vaccine. As a result, we will NEED another lockdown. Additionally, we will now need to roll out vaccine passports, for your safety and because of the selfishness and irresponsibility of the refuseniks. Additionally, boosters shall be required every six months due to variants.’

The future, if people don’t grow some balls or ovaries to stand up to this utter, utter lunacy sometime very soon.

439600 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 30, #1246 of 1400 🔗

And why would the flu vaccine not also become mandatory? Hepatitis B is also contagious. It was always the plan to expand mandatory vaccines from just kids to the adult population. Not only does pharma make a killing from all of the new vaccine customers, these same folks become customers for their other products needed to combat the long-term effects of over vaccination like autoimmune diseases. I’d be quite fine with a two-tiered society of the vaxxed and unvaxxed, so long as the latter are not second-class citizens or worse. Separate stores, restaurants, airlines, hotels, etc. would be fine with me.

439614 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 10, #1247 of 1400 🔗

Love that bit about pharma making a killing, very apt.

439690 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 6, #1248 of 1400 🔗

In a nutshell.
Either that, or give us a country we can all move to and turn it into a healthy, libertarian paradise.

439646 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 13, #1249 of 1400 🔗

Will never get that far. The populace bought all the crap up to this point – vaccines for the vulnerable will free us – but won’t buy it any further. Roll out all the hypocrites they like – Queeny, Hitchens, Linaker 🤣 🤣 🤣 – they ain’t buying it. Covid-19……soooooo the year before last.

439674 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Andrea Salford, 12, #1250 of 1400 🔗

I think lockdown fatigue is going to be a real problem for the powers that be. And the longer this goes on the worse it will get.

439688 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, -1, #1251 of 1400 🔗

The German SAGE equivalent will tomorrow publish a new ‘exit’ strategy, away from case numbers, essential/non-essential business discrimination, Tiers etc. and heavily focused on harsher safety concepts, like constant LFTs, one App only but with data protection to enable and do contact tracing, proving vaxx status, LFT status etc..
Those who don’t have mobile phones should get access to a tag system instead.
Not sure what to make of it.
On the one hand an improvement by getting away from irrelevant numerical benchmarks and really smacking of desperation in light of rising discontent in the population and the lack of a perspective for it, which they have acknowledged now for the first time, on the other hand further intrusions and certainly no back to normal.
If I can use and manipulate the tags and test meself/water instead of all the other shite, this could be a workable lesser evil. Plenty of folks will abideand do it correctly, that’s all they need and count upon.

439708 ▶▶▶ eastender53, replying to JayBee, 3, #1252 of 1400 🔗

The danger here is that people will express relief that their freedoms have been partially restored. They will forget that had these rules been suggested a year ago they would have been rejected out of hand. PsyOps at their best (or worst). The

439593 james007, replying to james007, 19, #1253 of 1400 🔗

If I was from another planet, and just arrived on earth – I would say from the level of hysteria that still continues, this must have been the only time in human history that there has been an epidemic of an infectious disease. It’s the first time people have died of an illness.

439672 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to james007, 10, #1254 of 1400 🔗

People of a certain age will remember the Smash adverts…

“And then they put a mask made of cloth over their nose and mouth…and they think it will prevent a virus particle getting through!! Ha-ha-ha…”

439773 ▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to james007, #1255 of 1400 🔗

If you were from another planet hopefully you would have parked your ship somewhere near me. While you’re wondering about the hysterical humans I would be on your ship to take me off this mad fecking rock!
(Any sane common sense people welcome to join me)

439599 isobar, replying to isobar, 29, #1256 of 1400 🔗



DM readers unimpressed by ‘Copacabana Beach’ strain. Just want their lives back.

‘Brazil Covid strain is found in travelers who arrived in UK BEFORE quarantine hotels were set up – but scientists say that vaccines WILL likely prevent ‘more resistant’ variant causing serious cases’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9309649/First-case-Manaus-variant-Covid-Brazil-UK.html

Best rated comment:2759 upticks 422 downticks

‘No one caressssssss give us our lives back ‘

other best rated comments in same mode

439613 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 5, #1257 of 1400 🔗

I thought the Brazilian variant had been here for ages, presumably they’ve just brought it up again because of the lovely weather…

439647 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to A. Contrarian, 4, #1258 of 1400 🔗

Yes, but it seems to have crashed and burned as a fear tactic,

439656 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to isobar, 19, #1259 of 1400 🔗

Nothing to fear the Brazilian variant has apparently had all it’s spikes waxed off.

439660 ▶▶▶▶▶ PhilipF, replying to Steve Martindale, 5, #1260 of 1400 🔗

It must be frustrating being a Brazilian these days – people immediately think of what Ali Gee would have called shaved punnani. Somewhat similar to being called Alexa.

439745 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Nessimmersion, replying to PhilipF, 1, #1261 of 1400 🔗

I have it on good authority that the Brazilian variant was shot by Cruella Dicks crack team of Covid wombles taking a break from body slamming small women and.pensioners.

439721 ▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to A. Contrarian, 4, #1262 of 1400 🔗

It waned for a while, but it’s waxing again.

439601 Les Tricoteuses, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 3, #1263 of 1400 🔗

Looking at the figures for top 10 causes of death in England for Dec 2020 as per article in Daily Expose.

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/01/30/investigation-100k-covid-deaths/

Unfortunately there is a problem with this data set. According to the ONS they erroneously put the aggregate total for the 5 years 2015 to 2019 instead of the average over 5 years. Latest update has corrected this.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales

It states
1 February 2021
In tables 11a and 11b the number of deaths for the five-year average (2015 to 2019) were originally published as the sum of 2015 to 2019 rather than the average. This has now been corrected; age-standardised rates and confidence intervals were unaffected. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

I was trying to do some bar charts and nothing made sense. Grr.

439665 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 1, #1264 of 1400 🔗

Thanks, I did wonder when I saw Allen’s post, the numbers seemed way out. It’s a massive distortion of the truth, but not an incredibly massive distortion of the truth.

439668 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Les Tricoteuses, 3, #1265 of 1400 🔗

That’s a pretty outrageous error for an Office of National Statistics on such an important subject, given it’s supposed to be the gold standard.

439724 ▶▶ eastender53, replying to Les Tricoteuses, #1266 of 1400 🔗

I can’t find it displayed in the same way. Basically are we saying the 20000 5 year average for something is now a 4000 five year average? Smells a bit to me.

439605 Ewan Duffy, replying to Ewan Duffy, 33, #1267 of 1400 🔗

https://ichr.ie/anti-discrimination-campaign-face-coverings/

The Irish Council for Human Rights is seeking to identify people who have been refused service in businesses in (Republic of) Ireland as a result of an inability to wear a facemask due to disability. They are planning to initiate legal action for 5 such cases to remind businesses of the requirement to comply with the Equal Status Act.

439652 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Ewan Duffy, 5, #1268 of 1400 🔗

More power to their (bumping?) elbows.

439612 A. Contrarian, replying to A. Contrarian, 29, #1269 of 1400 🔗

My MP is in the local paper crowing because Wancock has congratulated our local vaxx centre for jabbing so many sheep.

Why are the govt and media still trumpeting these “amazing” vaxx numbers when the vaxx is obviously going to make zero difference to our release from lockdowns? What does it matter any more that 20m have been jabbed, if nothing will change?

439615 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to A. Contrarian, 17, #1270 of 1400 🔗

It makes it more likely more people will get jabbed. I find it horrifying – these people have no idea what they are doing, what they are receiving, and what the long term consequences will be (including to their eternal destination).

439621 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to A. Contrarian, 2, #1271 of 1400 🔗

.

439628 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to FedupofLies, 3, #1272 of 1400 🔗

Allied to digital currency,it’s a totalitarians wet dream.

439623 Two-Six, 26, #1273 of 1400 🔗

So how did my afternoon down in the park go?
Well I’ll tell ye. The park was really busy, so were the footpaths into town. Many people carrying their obligatory take-away costa coffee cups, the new lockdown tipple of choice for millions of britts.

The play equipment was all in use, even the slide which had, horror of horrors, an enclosed tube the little ones slide down. Child after child came popping out the end laughing and getting back up to have another go. Parents all talking to each other with only a whiff of SD going on with a few notable stander-er-offers. Hardly detectable.

Lots on the skate ramps and the kiosk was open, sadly with a mental set up of bits of white tape to stand on and some stupid tape round traffic cones. However people looked pretty relaxed. Could do better.

I think there were about 600 to 1000 people in there which is really quite a lot. No cops, no wombles.

Face naps: There are a few very noticeable demographics wearing em in the open. Young women. The occasional young dude, who probably likes to think he is in Call Of Duty. Asians. People who look, sorry to say, really thick or a bit “special”. Older gents and ladies who might well have health issues they feel like they really have to worry about.

That said, after recovering from the horror of the Face Nappy Family Robinson sitting in a line feeding the ducks, I only really saw about literally 6 to 10 FNaps. So not too terrible

Then a couple of guys showed up with POWERBOATS and razzed them around the boating pond. I have waited for years to see this, usually its a sleepy old guy calmly sailing his sail boat about, trying to stay awake in the warm afternoon sun. I have often wished for somebody to turn up, get out a power boat, pull the rip cord on the chainsaw engine in the back with a deafening roar and then and razz it round at 65mph…much to the horror of onlookers….

A bit like a Dom Jolly Sketch…..

Well today my dream came true!

439625 Teddy Edward, replying to Teddy Edward, 36, #1274 of 1400 🔗

Non of my Nursing Colleagues within my group are taking the poison but we stand together.I hate my job with a passion.FYI I live in South Wales near the border if anybody out there is looking to help promote or invest in a small business venture drop me a pm if thats possible?!.

439675 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Teddy Edward, 2, #1275 of 1400 🔗

Good luck!

439671 DThom, replying to DThom, 12, #1276 of 1400 🔗

Muzzle update from the North East.
Visited Tesco, Morrisons, Sainsbury and M & S in the last two days. No challenges at all but almost 100% compliance. Only challenge was at my local chip shop as a passing question. Lots of men with big black muzzles – I do think some of them see it as an acting role and fancy themselves as Batman or Zorro! Others see it as the latest fashion.

439678 ▶▶ IvanDP, replying to DThom, 7, #1277 of 1400 🔗

It really does worry me that people are now seeing these muzzles as fashion accessories.
When will they wake up and realise they do absolutely nothing?

439679 ▶▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to IvanDP, 6, #1278 of 1400 🔗

Apart from make you ill

439683 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to IvanDP, #1279 of 1400 🔗
439684 ▶▶▶▶ IvanDP, replying to Banjones, #1280 of 1400 🔗

Yes, I’ve seen that before and am in full agreement with you

439692 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to IvanDP, 13, #1281 of 1400 🔗

They don’t do absolutely nothing. They put the wearer at increased risk of infection as well as other adverse health issues, including bacterial pneumonia. They cut of communication, and the sight of them is extremely damaging to others. It’s about the most idiotic and selfish thing a person can do!

439763 ▶▶▶▶ sam s.j., replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 2, #1282 of 1400 🔗

yes the sight of them is damaging to me on my walk now – all the masks zombie swervers .its bad for my blood pressure

439689 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to DThom, 2, #1283 of 1400 🔗

Its like a fashion statement at the minute but they will change and get bored as they always do,

439764 ▶▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to DanClarke, 1, #1284 of 1400 🔗

I hope so it’s so depressing to see them, I don’t know whether to laugh cry or scream at them

439757 ▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to DThom, 7, #1285 of 1400 🔗

I don’t even own a muzzle. So far I’ve been asked about it twice. Both times I said “exempt” and that was it. Early on in the scamdemic, I got challenged by fellow train passengers, but it turned out they were more concerned that I was incriminating myself by being filmed on CCTV and they all thought it was bullshit.

My other half walked into a supermarket behind two pigs last week. They demanded, “where’s your muzzle mate”, to which they got a lanyard waved at them and they fucked off.

439676 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #1286 of 1400 🔗

“Socialism On A Global Scale”: Sky News Host Demolishes Davos Elites And ‘Great Reset’ Scheme Now we know what WHO got out of the pandemic, a nice tidy 500,000,000 in the bank, or rather not out of the bank.

439760 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #1287 of 1400 🔗

Probably because they realised they would lose a hell of a lot when Trump pulled the plug on their funding.

439785 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to isobar, #1288 of 1400 🔗

Remember the WHO avoided paying out $500 million in pandemic bonds by declaring a pandemic hours before the payout deadline.

439677 Yorkie lass, replying to Yorkie lass, 5, #1289 of 1400 🔗

Apologies if this has been posted already but it needs to be shared, especially for anyone thinking of taking the jab.
It’s heartbreaking thinking of all these victims whether self inflicted or bullied into it
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/02/27/adverse-reaction-rate-to-covid-vaccines-increases-to-1-in-200/

439697 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Yorkie lass, 10, #1290 of 1400 🔗

Horrific reading. If they vaccinate the whole population, over 300,000 people could suffer adverse reactions.

Some observations:

1.Human bodies are highly complex. We have 30 trillion cells in our bodies. Reported adverse reactions are those that can be sensed in some way either by the patient or the medical examiner. But many disease processes in the body are not obvious to the patient or medical examiner. When cancerous tumours begin they are undetectable to both the subject and examiner, for instance. So, for all we know there may be many other undetected adverse reactions. We do know that vaccinations can interact with the immune system in complex ways and can raise vulnerability to other viruses for instance. That’s an adverse reaction that won’t be immediately observed.

https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m626/rr

2.It’s interesting that adverse reaction reports are increasing as the number of vaccinated people increases. The first couple of million vaccinations will have included many very old, very weak, very sick and very confused people who can’t really distinguish what is happening to their bodies. As we move into younger age groups, people will be able to state clearly things like “I’ve never had a headache like this before and it definitely came on after the vaccine.

3.Interesting that the mainstream media do not report on individuals suffering adverse reactions whereas they are very happy to report people happily getting vaccinated.

439709 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to OKUK, 11, #1291 of 1400 🔗

The contrast in reporting is stark. People with a sniffle posting selfies about how awful covid is were given headline billing. People suffering post-vaccination adverse reactions e.g. paralysis or tremors or blindness, don’t appear to be worthy of any mention in the eyes of the media.

439703 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Yorkie lass, 4, #1292 of 1400 🔗

So those people who went blind, what are they going to tell friends and family who haven’t had the jab yet?

439761 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Andrew K, 2, #1293 of 1400 🔗

Time they saw the truth?

439762 ▶▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to Andrew K, 1, #1294 of 1400 🔗

You’d hope it was obvious and wouldn’t need explaining

439681 OKUK, replying to OKUK, 11, #1295 of 1400 🔗

Posted by Swedenborg earlier:

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1365994133991661568

Pro-vaxists in Israel now admit that despite the massively advanced vaccination programme (world beating) in their country, vaccination is not effective by itself and Israel will need to maintain lockdowns and social distancing.

One of the reasons given? The 95% efficacy claim from the manufacturers is of course BS because they don’t use v old, v weak, very unhealthy or very sick people in their trials.

439686 ▶▶ IvanDP, replying to OKUK, 8, #1296 of 1400 🔗

And the 95% efficacy was based on current conditions
ie: lockdowns, muzzling, antisocial distancing.
Whatever happened to the vaccine being the route out?
Total bollocks!!!

439744 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to IvanDP, 10, #1297 of 1400 🔗

Sadly Toby fell for it.

439693 ▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to OKUK, 12, #1298 of 1400 🔗

It’s all bullshit. No vaccine is 100% effective. To choose a vaccine at random I had a look a the MMR vaccine effectiveness:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html

And I’m surprised just how low it is:

One dose of MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella.
Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps.

Given how contagious Mumps is and how “dangerous” it can be in terms of “long-Mumps”no one suggests vaccine passports for Mumps or locking people up.

439694 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 5, #1299 of 1400 🔗

Exactly

439706 ▶▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Janette, #1300 of 1400 🔗

From the same link this is another important point to note:

  • “About 3 out of 100 people who get two doses of MMR vaccine will get measles if exposed to the virus. However, they are more likely to have a milder illness, and are also less likely to spread the disease to other people.”
439787 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 2, #1301 of 1400 🔗

Heh, go look at at the old flu vaccine numbers.

The best they ever did was 60%.

Most years they only manage 30-50%.

439783 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to OKUK, 3, #1302 of 1400 🔗

The 95% figure is based on utterly crap criteria.

The jab was judged effective if the recipient presented mild symptoms and had a positive PCR diagnosis after the jab.

Utterly useless.

I’ll carry on in jab-free good health.

439687 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 7, #1303 of 1400 🔗

Seems to be the only person that died in the mostly riotous peaceful capitol invasion march was murdered by police , but she was a conspiracy theorist, so her life didn’t matter. FBI Flips To ‘Bear Spray’ Narrative As Individual Singled Out In Capitol Officer’s Death The 5 police who it has been asserted were killed by peaceful rioters actually died of unrelated issues, suicide, stroke, hamburgers surprisingly not covid!

439704 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Anti_socialist, #1304 of 1400 🔗

Eventually no truth will go uncovered.

439716 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Andrea Salford, 2, #1305 of 1400 🔗

The hypocrisy of politicians seems to have no limit, it’s perfectly acceptable for police to use normally less lethal weapons against peaceful protestors but if police get a taste of it, it’s a heinous act to use murderous weapons on police.

439734 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #1306 of 1400 🔗

2 officers committed suicide, ok…moving on.

439823 ▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #1307 of 1400 🔗

Ya right nothing to see here move along…

439699 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #1309 of 1400 🔗

Daily Mail polls found that almost every pre-vote poll is wrong in it’s predictions therefore on this one it’s 50/50 sitting on the fence so either way it’ll be right (and will use it’s might to eradicate anything else).

439698 eastender53, replying to eastender53, 18, #1310 of 1400 🔗

It’s the Brazilian variant! There goes the ‘roadmap’. How many times will SAGE et al keep returning to the same well? How many times will the sheeple keep drinking from it?

439701 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to eastender53, 4, #1311 of 1400 🔗

Former…more and more and more.
Latter, less, less and lesser (word?).

439707 ▶▶ Morse, replying to eastender53, 8, #1312 of 1400 🔗

Thought the same, rinse and repeat, I hope it happens, we need the vitriol to be deep and wide and oh so bitter, so when the big kick back occurs it’s no half measure, we need them to be at Defcon 1.

439710 ▶▶▶ eastender53, replying to Morse, 5, #1313 of 1400 🔗

Perf with Surf? Rage at SAGE?

439713 ▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to eastender53, 2, #1314 of 1400 🔗

WEF says you’ll be perf with serf status.

439758 ▶▶▶▶▶ stevie119, replying to OKUK, #1315 of 1400 🔗

One of the most annoying adverts ever.

439789 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to eastender53, 1, #1316 of 1400 🔗

Local Live (mirror group news) is reporting 6 cases of Brazilian mutant but it’s about the 25th most read article and contains nothing of substance.
Taking a punt from orders on high I would say.

439705 Dodderydude, replying to Dodderydude, 8, #1317 of 1400 🔗

This may already have been posted but I was interested to see this report of a stillborn baby in Israel whose death, according to the Mail, was from covid. One of the doctors states that it is likely that the death was caused by covid. So more fearmongering.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9309763/Foetus-dies-coronavirus-womb-mother-admitted-hospital.html

Apparently it is the second such case. I wonder if the fact that a decision was made in Israel in the third week of January that pregnant women were to be advised to be vaccinated might have had anything to do with it. There is no mention of whether the mother had been vaccinated which I would take to mean that she probably had.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/health-ministry-advises-pregnant-women-get-vaccine-after-10-serious-infections/

439726 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Dodderydude, 1, #1318 of 1400 🔗

You always have to wonder are these infections happening in hospital as well.

Everything leans towards “Corona = Deadly”. Always used for maximum effect.

439737 ▶▶ eastender53, replying to Dodderydude, 3, #1319 of 1400 🔗

How can an unborn baby that doesn’t breathe die from an URI? Am I missing something?

439749 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to eastender53, 1, #1320 of 1400 🔗

That’s why my suspicions were raised about the possibility that the mother had been vaccinated. I note that a doctor is quoted as saying that it was a shame that she wasn’t vaccinated during her first or second trimester. I wondered if he actually, at some point, stated that she had received the vaccine ‘too late’ but that wasn’t included in the article. I am aware that experts opposing the vaccine including Mike Yeadon have specifically referred to a real risk of placental uptake of the vaccine with the potential risk of dire consequences.

439743 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Dodderydude, 1, #1321 of 1400 🔗

But is this higher than the normal rate of stillbirths or not? If not, then it’s probably nothing to do with coronavirus, right?

439747 ▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1322 of 1400 🔗

Quite. But the claim is that they found the infection present in the foetus so ‘the likelihood is that covid caused the death’. At this stage with such small numbers (i.e. two!) it’s not possible to do any meaningful comparisons with normal stillbirth rates.

439771 ▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Dodderydude, 2, #1323 of 1400 🔗

Gilad Atzmon (fb) – “Hot off the Israeli press: 50 pregnant women in israel are in hospital , 8 in critical condition, one just died! This happens in a country that vaccinated half of its population. The most crucial question is what is it that the vaccinated trigger in their environment. I also read on Israeli social media reports from israel about babies refusing to be breastfed once the mother is vaccinated .. also saw Israeli reports on women bleeding heavily following vaccination.. I am not a doctor but all of that is worrying .. it is pretty clear to me why half of the Israelis refuse to vaccinate despite the insane government pressure..”

439759 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Dodderydude, 3, #1324 of 1400 🔗

Covid is a respiratory disease. How do babies get it in the womb?Through a snorkel?
Are they born with face nappies ready fitted?

439769 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Dodderydude, 2, #1325 of 1400 🔗

.

439712 IvanDP, replying to IvanDP, 43, #1326 of 1400 🔗

An observation from the covid stupidity.
As I have mentioned before, I am a bus driver and have worked without any fear throughout this farce. No mask, no sanitising, no distancing, no pestering passengers because they aren’t “following the rules”
Yes, most of our buses have been fitted with screens (much to my annoyance), but we do however have one particular inter city route which uses coaches.
By their very design, they were never intended to have any form of barrier between the cab and the rest of the vehicle.
Our beloved union, on the pretence of “protecting their members (I’m not in the union either by the way) have insisted that screens are fitted to said coaches.
The manufacturers have been trying to fit screens to the coaches without success since last May (every design is rejected by the union that is insisting on them)
The drivers are offered masks, visors, extra sanitising measures, etc and these vehicles have operated since the March lockdown last year.
To date, no screens fitted…… number of covid infections amongst the drivers of these vehicles…….. ZERO, NONE, NADA!!!!!!

Am I missing something again?????

439718 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to IvanDP, 19, #1327 of 1400 🔗

No. You are not ‘missing something’, you are normal. Normal normal normal. We must hang on to that concept before the believertwerps take over.

439715 Andrea Salford, replying to Andrea Salford, 25, #1328 of 1400 🔗

Weekend essay in 2 pages of A4 or less – ‘All I do is drink wine (insert other alcohol as appropriate) and rage at government, lockdowns, face masks, vaccines and vaccine passports etc. Am I wrong? Right? Mad? And why do I feel so alone?’ Discuss.

439722 ▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to Andrea Salford, 16, #1329 of 1400 🔗

You are not wrong. You are not mad. You feel alone because so many friends and neighbours are suffering from mass hysteria. It will pass. In the meantime, have another glass of wine and keep raging at the Government.

439727 ▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to DJ Dod, 4, #1330 of 1400 🔗

Thank you DJ Dod. Your advice sounds sound.

439728 ▶▶ IvanDP, replying to Andrea Salford, 18, #1331 of 1400 🔗

Unfortunately, as much good as sites like this does, we are still very much in a minority.
At times, even with the support of my partner, I too feel alone.
The sheep are brainwashed, and they won’t listen to anything apart from what MSM feeds them.
Please don’t give up, keep raging, keep drinking the wine, and keep believing that we will win…… eventually.

439731 ▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to IvanDP, 4, #1332 of 1400 🔗

Thank you 🙏 Ivan.

439742 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to IvanDP, 12, #1333 of 1400 🔗

People just don’t want to leave the comfort zone myth that government are there to keep them safe.

A while back I had to update my driving licence (annoying because I had to grow a long beard for the photo) whilst I was talking to the girl in the post office with phone in hand, she was asking personal info & said phone number? No don’t have one I replied, she looked at my hand and back at me with an accusing glare, I said not that I want to give DVLA or government anyway, she looked at me as if I were a terrorist!

The moral of the story, people want to be dependent on the state it’s their comfort blanket, they will deliberately ignore the truth, (crimes) to keep their blankee.

439768 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #1334 of 1400 🔗

They differ from children only in the size and appearance of their bodies, and seek in the state a mummy to shield them from the horrors of reality. Pitiful.

439776 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 5, #1335 of 1400 🔗

What gets me is I can think of no good reason why I want the government to phone me.

439805 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #1336 of 1400 🔗

Datavores.

439732 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Andrea Salford, 7, #1337 of 1400 🔗

Feel the same, its a freaking shambles

439802 ▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to DanClarke, #1338 of 1400 🔗

👍 👍 strength in numbers.

439756 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Andrea Salford, 5, #1339 of 1400 🔗

Hey, hang on in there Andrea, you have plenty of friends on here!

439790 ▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to isobar, 2, #1340 of 1400 🔗

Thank you isobar. One day we’ll all get together and laugh at this (that’s my hope anyway).

439801 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #1341 of 1400 🔗

I hear you Andrea. My OH is a sceptic but can’t tolerate my ranting for very long so I still feel rather alone. Yesterday we got together with friends and I felt more alone than if I had stayed home. When the conversation wasn’t Covid related it was fine, but I had to shut my mouth when they were talking about getting their turn for the “vaccine” and how it would lead to normalcy. I had to bite my tongue to stop from yelling that healthy people don’t make other people sick. My daughter was with us and later I said, “Don’t you think I was very restrained by not pushing back on any of the Covid nonsense?” She said my face spoke volumes even if my mouth was kept shut. Hey, I don’t have a poker face and I’m apparently an eye roller, but that’s the best I can do. At least these friends will get together and can act normally, which is kind of all I can ask for, but if I hear anyone speak out in favour of “vaccine” passports or express approval for treating the non-vaxxed as second-class citizens it might be game over. I’d love to be able to reminisce about the bad old lockdown days with my UK sceptic friends one day and toast to winning the war!

439803 ▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 3, #1342 of 1400 🔗

Hear you my Canadian? sister. In any other situation we wouldn’t be compelled to hide our knowledge and intelligence. What a strange (and evil, coerced) world we live in.

439814 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 4, #1343 of 1400 🔗

I’m well known by friends and family as the person who researches everything to death. I almost got my PhD (all but dissertation) and I know how to read peer-reviewed research. I’ve been quite open about my obsession with all things Covid and so all of these people know I am very well informed. Not one person has asked me why I’m against masks or why I won’t get the “vaccine.” So yes, it’s very strange for me to play dumb and not contradict what, to me, are obvious untruths. It actually takes a lot of energy to maintain these friendships and self-censor when I’m around people. Most of the time I would just rather stay on my property and keep to myself. But I would come visit my UK brothers and sisters if the opportunity were to arise!

439826 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #1344 of 1400 🔗

That’s what irks me. Not one of the people – family/friends/hubby – have researched a single thing about the virus, lockdowns, masks, vaccines. They know I have yet show no interest/respect, just eye roll and dismiss what I say. They have more to lose than me (I’ve always been known as the Howard Hughes of the family) but head/sand. What can you do?
I have a theory, would love to canvas – how many on here are:
– first born?
– left handed?
Or just me 🤣

439834 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #1345 of 1400 🔗

First born but right handed!

439837 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, #1346 of 1400 🔗

First born 👍 . It’s a blessing and a burden.

439723 Andrea Salford, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #1347 of 1400 🔗

@Labour’s Shadow Chancellor is wearing an electric blue coat’!!!
This is the level of discourse. Ffs please shoot me now.

439738 ▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Andrea Salford, 10, #1348 of 1400 🔗

No, we won’t shoot you, neither now nor at any time. The world needs all the good ones it can get.
Hang in there Andrea S – you have every right to be mad as in angry, because so many are mad as in insane, hysterical (or just good old-fashioned plain stupid).

439739 Andrea Salford, replying to Andrea Salford, 34, #1349 of 1400 🔗

Told my OH that every man wearing a face nappy is wet – that therefore includes him and (breaks my heart) my son. No surprise it didn’t go down well. Told him however shocking that may sound I’ll never be convinced otherwise and in fact they’re the freaks.
🤷🏻‍♀️ Taxi for one. 🤣

439750 ▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to Andrea Salford, 16, #1350 of 1400 🔗

Absolutely correct. It’s about pride, and the mask wearers have none. Weak pathetic and scared cowards. Found out today about someone who is a gym instructor in his twenties. Knows a (corrupt) GP and managed to get a vaccine. This piece of shit is so scared for his own meaningless life that he will go to any lengths to (in his puny mind) save it. For once, I hope that the vaccines do cause infertility.

439797 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to TheBluePill, 1, #1351 of 1400 🔗

I bet he’s one of those types who is all puffed up on steroids and spray tans to avoid skin cancer.

439746 BeBopRockSteady, 9, #1352 of 1400 🔗

“Why did we not strongly recommend and use Ivermectin despite the overwhelming evidence that it worked all the way back to April of 2020?

The $30,000 in extra payments to the hospital wasn’t enough — oh no, there were in fact tens of billions of dollars at stake, and your mother, grandfather or other family member had to be slaughtered in order to make sure that money flowed and kept flowing.

‘An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. Taking into consideration input from the FDA, manufacturers decide whether and when to submit an EUA request to FDA.'”

Our Government And Medical System, Murderous Pricks in [Market-Ticker] (market-ticker.org)

439748 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 11, #1353 of 1400 🔗

I wonder if masks, the fashion statement of the day will be like shiny track suits and ankle warmers of the past

439753 ▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to DanClarke, 7, #1354 of 1400 🔗

Loved my ankle warmers!! Stupid idea looking back but at least they did no harm, masks on the other hand.,…

439786 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to DanClarke, #1355 of 1400 🔗

Who was the last person still wearing a bum-bag ?

439765 BeBopRockSteady, 6, #1356 of 1400 🔗

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/28/pfizer-vaccine-less-effective-obesity-study

So given the high correlation with this group of people in the Covid-19 numbers, seems quite an important finding.

Again, it does reflect how the original trials were designed to provide the best numbers for marketing purposes, rather than provide an indication of how effective they may actually be.

No doubt msm will spin this as a need to ensure all BMI <30 get the jab to protect the vulnerable or some such spin.

439766 Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, 8, #1357 of 1400 🔗

Does this sound like blackmail to you?

Bill Gates: We have no Choice but an Economic Depression Until Global Population Vaccinated
https://thejewishvoice.com/2020/05/bill-gates-we-have-no-choice-but-an-economic-depression-until-global-population-vaccinated-ated/

439770 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Cheezilla, 4, #1358 of 1400 🔗

We do have a choice although the window is closing

439778 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 9, #1359 of 1400 🔗

Yep, we have a choice to make it illegal for billionaires to use their fortunes to undermine society.

We need to create massive legal jeopardy for individuals and companies who seek to close down our freedoms. That will soon change their tune – these people love their billions more than they do their opinions.

439816 ▶▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 4, #1360 of 1400 🔗

The choice is to kill cunts like gates

439822 ▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Jaguarpig, #1361 of 1400 🔗

That never solved anything. Best to listen to their argument then destroy it with truth. Leave him/them to learn their lesson.

439772 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Cheezilla, 5, #1362 of 1400 🔗

I’m guessing involving everyone else but him. Am I right?

439819 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Anti_socialist, 2, #1363 of 1400 🔗

Bill Gates has sold his soul to Satan, it’s a deal that never ends well for the seller. in destroying the global economy he is destroying the very eco-system in which he is rich and powerful. His billions won’t mean anything when he is sitting on the scorched earth he helped bring about. cold comfort, I know.

439824 ▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #1364 of 1400 🔗

Pity the rich man that envies our poor happiness.

439788 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Cheezilla, 2, #1365 of 1400 🔗

Yes we have a choice. Do we give them the oxygen of legitimacy? We know that what they propose is beyond evil and we will never accept it. Equally the masses, without ever knowing their true intent, will never accept it. Don’t under estimate the power of the people. Whether existential, intellectual or ‘I’ll do wtf I want’ it’s powerful and will see off this power crazy junket.

439795 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Cheezilla, 2, #1366 of 1400 🔗

Getting really tired of listening to this guy pop off as if he’s an expert on everything.

439774 Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, 9, #1367 of 1400 🔗

John Ward: Peter Hitchens is growing a beard. Maybe he’s trying to hide behind it. Certainly, in his latest piece for the Mail on Sunday, Hitchens tries very hard to hide behind the rationale for his decision to have the Covid19 jab. But for a man in his position (as a high-profile fighter for freedom) it’s nothing more than a bunch of flimsy excuses, hurriedly cobbled-together to explain his unwillingness to walk and talk at the same time.

https://therealslog.com/2021/02/28/opinion-the-hitches-in-peter-hitchens-self-exculpation/

It’s one thing to grow a beard….but another thing entirely to grow a pair.

439777 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Cheezilla, 11, #1368 of 1400 🔗

Yep, he had a pulpit. And he decided to preach defeatism. No coming back from that.

439784 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Cheezilla, 7, #1369 of 1400 🔗

Yep. Of the many choices he had, defending vaccine passports as the future for travel was just about as low as it gets. When we win (and we will eventually) all and every vaccine capitulator will be at the back of the queue for travel (freedom) and should apologise to us for their (moment? of) weakness and letting us down.
Having said that I know it’s not what makes us tick.

439817 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Andrea Salford, #1370 of 1400 🔗

they won’t be able to apologise cos they’ll all be 6 feet under by then

439815 ▶▶ Jaguarpig, replying to Cheezilla, #1371 of 1400 🔗

Mr Ward is the real man fuck Hitchens

439820 ▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Jaguarpig, #1372 of 1400 🔗

Mr Ward?

439818 ▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Cheezilla, 1, #1373 of 1400 🔗

When something doesn’t make sense then it simply doesn’t make sense. No amount of repeating it (or beards) will ever make it make sense. Ever.
Peter knows that and will remain either ashamed or a fraud.

439775 BeBopRockSteady, 5, #1374 of 1400 🔗

A good summary on PCR, nothing new unless it’s something you wish to share with newbies to the fraud.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pcr-testing-incorrect-use

I find it impossible to believe that we have people in power, who have voted through the most draconian bills this last year, have never even heard that there might have been an issue with PCR.

Surely they must have recognised how central it has been. And any mumbling of a problem should have been taken up to ensure we were getting to the heart of the matter.

I am just astounded by sheer lack of brain power in people with MP before their name.

439780 Andrea Salford, replying to Andrea Salford, 14, #1375 of 1400 🔗

Here’s ‘the mother’ (82.5 and gets more defiant by the day) “No I don’t want the experimental vaccine – I’m not a guinea pig, and I’m not paying for the tv license bill either that they’ve just sent me, done my bit taxes and national insurance wise. Throw me in prison if you want, I’ll get free bed and board and visitors which I’m not allowed now as a legal citizen’.
Can’t argue with that (nor do I wish to).

439791 ▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #1376 of 1400 🔗

It’s clear you take after your mom! She sounds like a very neat lady.

439800 ▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 3, #1377 of 1400 🔗

Cheers Lisa. She is my rock at the moment on all matters sceptic/lockdowns etc. I think we embolden each other as do your posts (and others) on here. I think I’ve picked up that most of your folks are sceptics too?

439804 ▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 4, #1378 of 1400 🔗

No, my folks are not sceptics at all. My dad is a retired GP and he and I have had battles about the medical profession for decades. My mom has the potential to be a sceptic but lives with my dad and they both plan on getting the “vaccine” as soon as they are called. They do see their kids and grandkids though, so we still get together though not nearly as often since I left Toronto. I saw them a few weeks ago for the first time since October and it was tense; my relationship with my mom has suffered. I haven’t lost any friends or family yet to the Covid insanity, but I have a feeling that won’t last as the “vaccine” is rolled out here. That’s when the rubber will hit the road.

439806 ▶▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 3, #1379 of 1400 🔗

Ask them to make sure their wills are updated before they get stuck.

439809 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 1, #1380 of 1400 🔗

Their wills have been updated and I’m the executor! But being the good daughter I am, I want them to live another 20 years.

My dad is not in good health but my mom is 79 and just lost her mother at 100, so it makes me sad that she’s going to risk her health when she could have another 20 years.

439807 ▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 4, #1381 of 1400 🔗

Gosh isn’t it crazy. I really feel for you. My in-laws ‘went cold’ after Xmas (scary new covid variant) until they had the freedom jab last month. I was beyond insulted but OH (their son) ‘respected it’s their decision’…..’what? to treat us like lepers?’ (I can get over dramatic 🤣 ). Anyhoo they’ve had the ‘jab’ and allowed us to visit recently. Blame the government, MSM? Blame lack of education? Are we making excuses for people? I don’t know. I won’t forget but may forgive.

439811 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 3, #1382 of 1400 🔗

I’ll never forget either. Forgiveness? I’m not sure yet. My in-laws passed a long time ago so it’s only my parents. They are MSM watchers and my dad was part of the medical establishment and simply won’t question the narrative. So long as they don’t want me to wear a mask in their presence, I’ll be fine with them.

439812 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 1, #1383 of 1400 🔗

I know what you mean. My mum is totally on board but I’m eggshells round my son (for access to my three granddaughters). My relationship with grandkids is great and ongoing but with (only) son = fragile/walk careful.

439813 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #1384 of 1400 🔗

Ps = as a bright lad I’m surprised and disappointed that he’s bought into the narrative. Hey ho.

439829 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #1385 of 1400 🔗

He takes after his dad? In all seriousness, there seems to be a relationship between higher education and buying into the narrative, so I have no doubt he’s very smart. We sceptics on this forum are outliers in that sense, and many others. But it is very disappointing how many of my friends and family who are very well educated and not usually gullible have given in to the MSM fear mongering.

439833 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, #1386 of 1400 🔗

Well yes, the other shock is his dad has bought into it – either fear of covid or fear of rule breaking I don’t know (we’re no longer together). Not the guy I used to know but hey ho, takes all sorts…..
For me family love is first and no ridiculous criminal rule from any government will change that.

439831 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #1387 of 1400 🔗

I’m glad it hasn’t affected your relationship with your grandchildren. I know of adult children manipulating their parents into behaving the way they deem appropriate or else they will not let them see the grandkids. My mom has a friend whose son is a doctor (the worst!) and he will check up on her to make sure she’s not seeing people she shouldn’t and has no problem using the grandchildren as leverage. What a sicko.

439835 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, #1388 of 1400 🔗

Indeed what a sicko. My son has tried to talk my mum into getting the (experimental) ‘vaccine’ which he thinks she needs to ‘not die from COVID’. He loves her dearly so I can’t fault his motives but she won’t have it for now and she’s told him why. Other than that we’re poor, Northern (England) so primarily sceptics/common sense. I think the better offs are primarily the hypochondriac/hysterics in my experience?

439810 ▶▶▶▶▶ Andrea Salford, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #1389 of 1400 🔗

Make sure they read this before getting the vaccine (nothing ventured, nothing gained)
https://tapnewswire.com/2021/02/a-very-smart-rabbi-states-31-reasons-why-he-will-never-receive-a-covid-19-vaccine/

439832 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Andrea Salford, 1, #1390 of 1400 🔗

Thank you for this. It’s very compelling and may actually influence my mom. I’ve kept it in a folder I have created.

439782 karenovirus, replying to karenovirus, 3, #1391 of 1400 🔗

There’s not been much about this subject from the MSM

439793 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to karenovirus, 7, #1392 of 1400 🔗

Inflammation anywhere in your body is a bad sign and can lead to long term health issues. Your facial skin will be no different. The MSM is engaged in a comprehensive cover-up.

439794 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to OKUK, 6, #1393 of 1400 🔗

And the best way to keep inflammation at bay is proper diet, exercise, and sleep.

You’ll never hear the media promote them.

No ad dollars in it.

439796 ▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to awildgoose, 6, #1394 of 1400 🔗

The lockdown has been great for promoting fast food, staying at home on the sofa watching box sets and insomnia.

439798 ▶▶▶▶ karenovirus, replying to awildgoose, 4, #1395 of 1400 🔗

The ‘article’ I posted purports to be about a charity but much of it is peppered with £5.99 for 5mg of whatever.
In effect it’s a paid promotion.

439821 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to karenovirus, 4, #1396 of 1400 🔗

The best thing to do is to take the blasted masks off

439792 awildgoose, replying to awildgoose, 9, #1397 of 1400 🔗

Ultra-Orthodox Jews battle Israeli authorities over lockdowns, vaxes:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/29/middleeast/israel-ultra-orthodox-coronavirus-intl/index.html

Apparently they’ve taken to wearing yellow stars and called at least one police chief, “Hitler”

439830 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to awildgoose, 1, #1398 of 1400 🔗

An Islamic friend (not particularly active) told me months ago that at prayer Moslems are required to gather close together.
When he goes to the mosque he feels that socially distanced prayer is not really prayer at all.

439808 karenovirus, replying to karenovirus, 7, #1399 of 1400 🔗

18 hours ago Ed Phillips posted a link to a speech by the Governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem, in which she brilliantly describes the success of her no lockdown policy despite predictions of death and destruction by Dr Fauci and the rest.

On Forbes YouTube it has 1.1m views in one day, 4 times as many as the next closest with the rest trailing along with just a few thousand views.

This should be at least in tomorrows roundup if not the main lead. IMHO.

439825 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to karenovirus, 2, #1400 of 1400 🔗

Also features in The Independent.
The vid is listed as 55 minutes but she makes her main points in the first 10.

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