2021-03-01

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439839 Laurence, replying to Laurence, 183, #1 of 1661 🔗

My dad is 96 years old. Yesterday was the first time in around 3 months I have seen him. He lives about 15 miles away from me and I was ‘allowed’ by the people running his residential home (based on the orders of our democratic government) to pick him up as I was taking him to the optician.

We turned up at the shopping centre where they were based and walked through. He was devastated at the level of activity – he said it was like a science fiction movie where only a few people were left in the world after an apocalyptic event. I said ‘think of all the young people who have lost their jobs because of this, and they are at minimal risk – only around 1,000 people under 50 have died from the virus’. He explained that that was exactly what he meant.

Even for people in the oldest age groups the risk of dying from Covid is so small compared to the risk of dying anyway (1 in 46 last year from Covid compared to around 1 in 4 of the over 90s that die anyway) – But the idea that the young have been kept away from school, employment, just acting like normal people and seeing their friends to protect a relatively tiny number of very old people revolts me, and shocked him.

As I said to him yesterday, if I had to take one fact, one number that summarised the world’s horrific and absurd over reaction to Covid, it would be this:

Over the whole period of the Covid outbreak until the 17th February 2021, only 418 people under 60 have died with/ from Covid in Sweden, in a country of over 10 million (and that is the official figure -the true figure is probably far less).

439840 ▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Laurence, 161, #2 of 1661 🔗

My mother is nearly 92. she says this lockdown thing is the biggest sham in history. Nobody has ever locked down for anything, not the many flu waves and other diseases she’s lived through. She says if I get Covid and die, well how old am I going to get anyway? I might save myself 6 months in a nursing home at the end!

439858 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Elisabeth, 103, #3 of 1661 🔗

She has a good point, excellent woman that she is. Six months in a ‘care’ home, these days, sounds like six months in the ante-chamber of Hell.

440160 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Annie, 14, #4 of 1661 🔗

6 months in Egypt seem far more preferable, and could therefore easily turn into 1 or 2 more years on Earth for such people.

440328 ▶▶▶▶ 599chrish, replying to Annie, 22, #5 of 1661 🔗

Believe me – it is!
I used to entertain the residents of Nursing and Care homes – believe me, they would be the last places on earth you would want to see’ your days out
Many of the places I visited were considered to be ‘posh ones’ too
However much they charge for idyllic surroundings – the common denominator is the staff – and it is precisely as they say ‘ if you pay peanuts………………

439888 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Elisabeth, 67, #6 of 1661 🔗

MIL will? be 96 next month and survived the Asian flu; arguably a lot worse than Covid.
To lighten things up a bit, she’s as deaf as a post and calls it the Covert virus, but then again, that might be a better name.

439898 ▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Elisabeth, 59, #7 of 1661 🔗

That’s precisely the point I keep trying to get over to people. I’m in my 60’s – but there’s been six Big Virus things since I was born and we didn’t do a Lockdown for any of them – so why for this one??? Answer = because They can (ie because most of us now have a computer/smartphone). No-one, but no-one has ever given me an answer to justify “Why for this Big Virus?” yet. No-one but no-one has ever admitted it’s because we tend to have computers etc these days – and so they personally can manage and blow the rest of us.

440163 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to ElizaP, 12, #8 of 1661 🔗

It’s all about climate change restrictions, stupid.

440215 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to JayBee, 17, #9 of 1661 🔗

I wonder when people will WAKE UP about the whole Climate Change being garbage.

We need to say NO TO LGBT, NO TO TRANSGENDERISM, NOT TO PROMOTION OF HOMOSEXUALITY.

440722 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to FedupofLies, 13, #10 of 1661 🔗

An interesting book on the ”climate crisis”:
“Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom” (Dr Patrick Campbell)

“It dawned on me one day that most of the scare stories in the media today are based on things that are either invisible, like CO2 and radiation, or very remote, like polar bears and coral reefs……”

440353 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to JayBee, 17, #11 of 1661 🔗

And climate change is all about depopulation. Sustainable development means there will be no room at the inn for virtually all of us.

440966 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ rose, replying to Rowan, 7, #12 of 1661 🔗

The’ve got rid of the inns first

441104 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to rose, 2, #13 of 1661 🔗

Bit by bit they will achieve their aim.

441445 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ HoMojo, replying to Rowan, 1, #14 of 1661 🔗

No they won’t. Why should they?

441120 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to rose, 4, #15 of 1661 🔗

That’s what the lockdowns are for 😶

440685 ▶▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to JayBee, 9, #16 of 1661 🔗

And abot rubbish climate change. I remember clearly that in the 60’s we were told we were heading for the next ice age.So I’m sceptical now.

440181 ▶▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to ElizaP, 48, #17 of 1661 🔗

Yep social media and the Internet have fuelled this bullshit. Every time you switch on a phone up comes the government propaganda. If you try and put an opposing view this is taken down. So you either comply or throw away your phone and nobody wants to do this. As an over 60 person I have just got my jab offer. Thanks, er but no but. Wonder how many calls I will get? I hope its the receptionist because I fucking hate her and will be fun having an excuse to shout at her. Great line in the jab leaflet “we do not know yet whether it will stop you from catching or passing on the virus” WHAT!! And even better after the jab you must continue social distancing, mask wearing and hand sanitising. So what’s the fucking point of the vaccine.

440495 ▶▶▶▶▶ albert hall, replying to Spikedee1, 4, #18 of 1661 🔗

If my experience is anything to go by, two letters one phone call and a text. With the promise of another phone call offering “advice”

441448 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ HoMojo, replying to albert hall, 1, #19 of 1661 🔗

3 letters, 3 texts, no call.

440692 ▶▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Spikedee1, 7, #20 of 1661 🔗

I’ve had 17 phone calls so far and three letters despite informing them on the first and second call that I wished to decline.

440776 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ jcd, replying to Tillysmum, 4, #21 of 1661 🔗

I’ve only had one ‘phone call from my GP surgery; I feel deprived!

440981 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to jcd, 2, #22 of 1661 🔗

Me too! Only the one. I think our reputations have preceded us.

440994 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ albert hall, replying to Tillysmum, 3, #23 of 1661 🔗

By way of update I’ve just had three attempts to speak to me via my wife’s phone as their number is blocked. Isn’t this nuisance calling?

441107 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to albert hall, 3, #24 of 1661 🔗

Yes these people should be reported.

440301 ▶▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to ElizaP, 73, #25 of 1661 🔗

I had my usual fun in queues playing mind games with the other people in the queue on Saturday. One in particular stands out:

Older chap (70s to 80s) in front of us with no mask on, younger chap maybe 30s – 40s behind us wearing a mask and we’re all outside because the shop in question is too small to have more than three people in at the best of times.

Son pipes up: Did you wear a mask when you were a little boy Dad? I reply in a sufficiently loud voice that everyone in the queue can here me, “No I didn’t, I was about three when the Hong Kong flu hit the UK and Granny and Gramps tell me that the country didn’t collectively shit its pants over a virus against which there was no know immunity. There were no zombies wearing masks and we didn’t stop children going to school.”

It was amusing because the older chap in front of me started smirking and I turned around to look at the rest of the queue and they were all visibly uncomfortable with being thought of as zombies.

440547 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 19, #26 of 1661 🔗

You have trained your son well!

441027 ▶▶▶▶▶ HelenaHancart, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 7, #27 of 1661 🔗

Way to go!

441146 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 7, #28 of 1661 🔗

Brilliant!!!!

440493 ▶▶▶▶ albert hall, replying to ElizaP, 11, #29 of 1661 🔗

I’m 73 and recall 1968, was it Asian flu that time?, purely because I celebrated my 21st that year. The one and only time I ever drank Irish whiskey to severe excess. I also remember having to give my mum an extra ten Bob a week for my keep. As for the flu that didn’t register for me and my social and family circles.

440812 ▶▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to albert hall, 6, #30 of 1661 🔗

Pity you couldn’t make it to Woodstock super spreader event the following year (perhaps you did). I was locked up at school which may explain the pissedoffedness now.

441004 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ albert hall, replying to Nigel Sherratt, 5, #31 of 1661 🔗

Out of my price range that one. IoW festival only £1/5/0 entrance

440682 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to ElizaP, 7, #32 of 1661 🔗

Please do the research. It’s about UN Agenda 21 and 30.

441109 ▶▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Tillysmum, 2, #33 of 1661 🔗

And they are both about depopulation.

439844 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Laurence, 50, #34 of 1661 🔗

Average age of coronavirus related deaths is greater than life expectancy.

440355 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Steve Hayes, 7, #35 of 1661 🔗

Coronavirus is a health aid.

439921 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Laurence, 76, #36 of 1661 🔗

Funny how the government never really bothered to ask people in their 80s and 90s, you know the ones that they wanted to protect hence why we’ve been locked down. I was reminded of what Desmond Swaye said in Parliament, that the vast majority of those in their 80s and 90s want to enjoy what little time they have on this planet.

So who is it that the government really wants to protect?

439947 ▶▶▶ jos, replying to Bart Simpson, 38, #37 of 1661 🔗

Quite frankly, no one but themselves.

440007 ▶▶▶▶ BertieFox, replying to jos, 7, #38 of 1661 🔗

Snap!!!

440006 ▶▶▶ BertieFox, replying to Bart Simpson, 16, #39 of 1661 🔗

I don’t think they want to “protect” anyone Mrs Bart, except perhaps themselves. I think they want to do just the opposite.

440361 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to BertieFox, 12, #40 of 1661 🔗

The plan is to kill off as many of us as they can. The Covid vaccines, that aren’t vaccines, are the depopulators weapon of choice.

440448 ▶▶▶ lorrinet, replying to Bart Simpson, 8, #41 of 1661 🔗

The ever-inflating bank-balances and egocentric power-trips of the usual suspects – we know them, I don’t need to name them – who have awarded themselves the right to order this world wholly to their benefit. We are nothing. We are here to serve them, and they intend to decide how many slaves they need.

I hope and trust that God will put them right and send them somewhere extremely hot when they thankfully leave this world, which can’t be soon enough, because they are of zero value to humanity, and a blight on nature and on humankind.

440551 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #42 of 1661 🔗

Their bank balances.

440713 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Cheezilla, 1, #43 of 1661 🔗

God balances.

441029 ▶▶▶ HelenaHancart, replying to Bart Simpson, 1, #44 of 1661 🔗

Their own sorry arses!

440314 ▶▶ nootnoot, replying to Laurence, 23, #45 of 1661 🔗

I have two Grandparents both 90, my Grandad and my wife’s Granny. Both strangely have differing views on the whole thing. Grandad says “I hope they don’t open things too soon or too quick or we’ll be right back in lockdown again. Granny’s views are “It’s like a bloody dictatorship telling you what you can and can’t do”. Also and my favourite quote from her was “I’d rather have all my family keep visiting (at home) and die of covid than be hidden away and die alone.”

I beleive my Grandad’s view of this may be too narrow because he only has basic TV (BBC) sadly and no internet or access to alternate sources. His view does surprise me as he’s an ex Navy man and been there, seen it, done it. Unfortuantely he lives 500 miles for me so I can’t just quickly pop in now and then. However with Granny she’s 5 minutes away and we pop in all the time. She loves it!

440372 ▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to nootnoot, 11, #46 of 1661 🔗

Sounds like my house. However, both my parents (late 70s) are sceptical and both have declined the vaccination. In conversation with them the other day they both laughed at some of my comments to them and noted that I am even more cynical than them.

440557 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to nootnoot, 6, #47 of 1661 🔗

Lucky Granny!

440532 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Laurence, 4, #48 of 1661 🔗

The effect of the lockdown simulates the effects of a neutron bomb strike. These WMDs are tailored to kill life whilst leaving property intact. Living things are killed by exposure to high energy neutrons.

These bombs are ideal weapons for the ubercapitalist/banksters.

441119 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Ken Garoo, #49 of 1661 🔗

These bombs are ideal weapons for the ubercapitalist/banksters.

Rather like the Covid vaccines, which will also leave the buildings intact.

439841 Kiwiexile, replying to Kiwiexile, -102, #50 of 1661 🔗

Just a point of order on the situation in New Zealand. The Guardian is wrong to say that Auckland was locked down after one case ‘with an unknown origin’. I think it is fair to say that we know exactly where this case came from… there are two families at the centre of the outbreak and there was one unidentified 21 year old who, despite being in contact with the families at the centre of the outbreak decided it was cool to ignore requests to isolate while waiting for a Covid test result. The test was positive but in the time they should have been at home, they had been to work, to college, to the shops and most bizarrely, to the gym, despite apparently not feeling great! The number of contacts this one person made in that time when they shouldn’t have been out an about is the main reason fo the lockdown. Up until now, all those who had been exposed had been tracked and tested and isolated in a dedicated quarantine hotel. It’s a shame that the message didn’t get through to this one individual. Now 1.6m people have to stay at home for a week, schools and shops are shut and millions of dollars will be lost, while the authorities rush to mop up. It’s on a knife edge whether they can track all the people this person has been in contact with. Let’s hope that 7 days is all it takes. I’m in an isolation hotel in Auckland with 7 days to go to I get freedom and I would be well annoyed to find that having gone through all this, I was still being told to stay in and wear a mask everywhere! New Zealand has made sacrifices to achieve its relatively Covid-free status. It’s remoteness has been an advantage but, equally, It has been trashed its entire tourism industry to stop the virus getting abroad in the community. I am not sure how easy it is going to be to sustain this isolation though, as the world begins to open up again. They are vaccinating the population slowly. There doesn’t seem to be a great rush to crack on, despite the Govt saying that vaccination is the key to reopening borders. Perhaps this outbreak will spur on a bit of action. The bigger question is where the original case came from. It seems that Case A was a person working in a facility laundering airline uniforms who had no personal interaction with anyone travelling. They have now registered Case O — so 15 cases so far.

439886 ▶▶ jos, replying to Kiwiexile, 133, #51 of 1661 🔗

You are being lied to. Your natural immunity is being destroyed by this and you will never be able to open up without more serious consequences than if you had never shut down. The isolation is nonsense. The trashing is deliberate. The virus is not the problem – your government is.

440171 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to jos, 14, #52 of 1661 🔗

I would add that either they have far more Covid floating around than official, or we have far less, as they seem to use PCR tests with cts of just 23.

440546 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to jos, 16, #53 of 1661 🔗

Personally, I would find it hilarious if after all its efforts and posturing to the rest of the world New Zealand ends up having an outbreak throughout the whole country and ends up in the same place as everyone else. I would literally wet myself from the laughter.

439932 ▶▶ Carmen B, replying to Kiwiexile, 89, #54 of 1661 🔗

And how many people are in hospital and how many people have died because of this “one unidentified 21 year old” you want to heap so much blame on? Why don’t you blame your government for such a massive overreaction in response to such minimal risk?

440568 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Carmen B, 10, #55 of 1661 🔗

If that “one unidentified 21 year old” infected so many people in summer, they must have really crappy immune systems in New Zealand.

That “one unidentified 21year” old sounds awfully like a myth perpetrated by a troll or the MSM.

441188 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Cheezilla, 2, #56 of 1661 🔗

It’s the usual wheeze, no doubt.

441324 ▶▶▶ optocarol, replying to Carmen B, 1, #57 of 1661 🔗

None and none, of course. More damage will be done to people’s lives from the lockdown. I do blame them, I didn’t vote for them.

439938 ▶▶ Dobba, replying to Kiwiexile, 55, #58 of 1661 🔗

While we have flu/influenza this will never stop and every year, when flu season comes around, they will find a reason to lock every one down again. Flu will never go away – they’ve just renamed it Covid.

439964 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Kiwiexile, 23, #59 of 1661 🔗

It’s the zero covid policy, and the government pursuing it that is to blame, unworkable and very damaging. ‘It would have worked but for some idiot’ excuse doesn’t wash with me.

It will be interesting to see if there is a rise in all cause mortality in New Zealand and Australia when the experimental vaccination program really gets going in particular in the most vulnerable older people and care homes. Perhaps they need to do the experimental vaccination slowly to avoid these deaths obviously showing up in figures?

In the UK experimental vaccine deaths (in particular in care homes) appear to have been hidden in the covid death figures, given that people seem to test positive after having the experimental vaccine, and given the proportion of covid deaths in care homes went up while the first jabs were being done (see attached). Of course the information isn’t being made available for us to say categorically that this is the case, but appears it is the case.

439979 ▶▶▶ marebobowl, replying to Freecumbria, 6, #60 of 1661 🔗

Please see Joel Smalley’s work. His graphs point to a very worrying development.

440795 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to marebobowl, 1, #61 of 1661 🔗

Inevitable more like. Congratulations to JS for demonstrating it so convincingly.

439987 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Kiwiexile, 47, #62 of 1661 🔗

The number of contacts this one person made in that time when they shouldn’t have been out an about is the main reason fo the lockdown. [sic]

No, the insane policies of the insane woman running New Zealand is the main reason for the lockdown.

…7 days to go to I get freedom…

Your definition of Freedom? or Jacinda Arden’s definition of freedom?

New Zealand has made sacrifices to achieve its relatively Covid-free status.

It has been trashed its entire tourism industry to stop the virus getting abroad in the community.

Hundreds of thousands of jobs, and a whole industry sacrificed by the Government . I’ll bet the people did not have much say in this.

I think you have come to the wrong place to complain. May I suggest you complain to:

Jacinda Arden

Parliament Office
Private Bag 18888

Parliament Buildings
Wellington 6160

440271 ▶▶▶ GCarty80, replying to Ceriain, 5, #63 of 1661 🔗

It wasn’t the “entire tourism industry” that was sacrificed in NZ, just those bits specifically devoted to foreign visitors, as a lot of tourist businesses in NZ have been kept going by domestic tourism.

439993 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to Kiwiexile, 55, #64 of 1661 🔗

“Up until now, all those who had been exposed had been tracked and tested and isolated in a dedicated quarantine hotel.”

That sounds fabulous! Just wonderful…ly dystopian and horrifying! What is wrong with you that you think that this virus is worth throwing your entire freedom away for? You have Stockholm Syndrome and you need help!

440285 ▶▶▶ GCarty80, replying to this is my username, 2, #65 of 1661 🔗

If NZ is centrally quarantining those who have been exposed to positive cases, then that means they’ve adopted the Chinese approach. At least (unlike lockdowns in the Americas or Europe) that approach actually works, although I’m curious to know what made Kiwis amenable to such an approach? I’m sure that if it were attempted in the US there’d be a civil war within a week.

440383 ▶▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to GCarty80, 22, #66 of 1661 🔗

“At least (unlike lockdowns in the Americas or Europe) that approach actually works,”

Works? No, it suppresses. It’s a strategy which, once adopted, can never be stopped because cases will always arise. It’s an appalling idea, and one which should never be used – this is NOT EBOLA!

440637 ▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to GCarty80, 6, #67 of 1661 🔗

China never closed its borders and never had a national lockdown. Why are you spreading disinformation? Flights continued to go back and forth between Wuhan and N Italy in the first quarter of 2020.

Hmmm….you’ve already posted v misleading stuff about IFRs. I have to ask what your game is.

440033 ▶▶ rose, replying to Kiwiexile, 35, #68 of 1661 🔗

You deserve to be for in lockdown for ever with that attitude and you probably will be. It is your government that caused the devastation to your tourism industry and not Covid

440037 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to Kiwiexile, 25, #69 of 1661 🔗

Not the one person’s fault. S/he was developing herd immunity in young people thereby protecting the older ones. Grow up, please!

440043 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Kiwiexile, 55, #70 of 1661 🔗

Quite possibly the maddest post ever written on here.

And Mayo has the top 10 covered.

To try and justify an entire lockdown via the description of a 21 year old not feeling great, but well enough to do all their normal things, in great detail I must add, is amazing. You should read that back to yourself and try and think what life was like 18 months ago.

To live your life obsessing about the movements of an individual you don’t know who has the flu, is somewhat scary. But to think this is your entire country who no doubt now knows the intimate details of this person and their headaches, is mass hysteria.

Stay home forever if you are so worried about this given what we now know. The issue with NZ and their government, is they’ve made such polticial capital from their zero Covid nonsense, even gaining traction here now, that’s its no longer about a virus. They’ve made it into a matter of national pride. It can only end badly.

440074 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 9, #71 of 1661 🔗

Truly… but not as mad as the people taking this post seriously and arguing the case against its madness. It’s mad. Mock it or ignore it!

440390 ▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 5, #72 of 1661 🔗

Maybe but NZ tends to be held up as a role model. This is an opportunity to explain why it should not be.

440071 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Kiwiexile, 23, #73 of 1661 🔗

Wrong forum, kiwiexile – try guardian.co.uk

440166 ▶▶ Freddy Boy, replying to Kiwiexile, 7, #74 of 1661 🔗

Calm yourself ffs !

440182 ▶▶ Mark, replying to Kiwiexile, 19, #75 of 1661 🔗

The number of contacts this one person made in that time when they shouldn’t have been out an about is the main reason fo the lockdown.

The point seems to have already been made that, no, the person acting normally is not “to blame”, those panicking into irrationally locking down an entire nation to try to hide away from a globally endemic seasonal respiratory virus are the ones to blame, for all the negative consequences of their evil stupidity.

What sparked my particular interest was why you are here at all, if you believe what you wrote in that comment?

It’s rather long and well written to be a simple troll post.

Are you just one of those who take the Snowdon line, that lockdown is good now that there’s supposedly a vaccine to “save us”? Even that doesn’t seem to quite fit with your apologia for rabid NZ lockdown insanity.

440381 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Kiwiexile, 10, #76 of 1661 🔗

Over in Blighty defenders of lockdowns often cite New Zealand as a success story. They tend not to add that every time a few cases show up it is batten down the hatches yet again.

440485 ▶▶ Suzyv, replying to Kiwiexile, 6, #77 of 1661 🔗

One case of what exactly? PCR tests are only fit for forensics work and cannot detect an infection. They are as accurate as flipping a coin. If you are stressed they will detect positive, if you test your house plant they can come up positive it is ridiculous everywhere however particularly to lockdown a large city for this.

440614 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Kiwiexile, 4, #78 of 1661 🔗

Not surprised this got so many thumbs downs. Don’t you think it’s much more likely they are going slowly on the vaccination programme because they know it will NOT allow reopening of the borders? All the pro-vaxists are making it clear the restrictions have to continue.

441319 ▶▶ optocarol, replying to Kiwiexile, 3, #79 of 1661 🔗

I live in Auckland and because I’m in a retirement village, I’m in level 4, not 3. I agree that the person should have stayed home – you’d think they would have if they didn’t fell great. Still, 21 year olds have done dumb things forever and humanity is still here.

However, I also think this government’s approach has been a disaster from day 1. Elimination was never going to work or be worth the cost. Ardern said recently “Our goal has to be though, to get the management of covid-19 to a similar place as we do seasonally with the flu. ” But at the first opportunity she and the Minister of Health do another lockdown. If you vote for a socialist, don’t be surprised if you get lies and state control.

439842 TheClone, replying to TheClone, 72, #80 of 1661 🔗

It is not about the virus, it is about the government control over people!

439850 ▶▶ chaos, replying to TheClone, 45, #81 of 1661 🔗

Ultimately it’s about a chinese style control grid and the climate change ruse.

439843 Ed Phillips, replying to Ed Phillips, 98, #82 of 1661 🔗

My children’s school after being reasonably sensible before Christmas is now asking parents to wear masks at drop off and pick up.

I’m writing to the head mistress today. What are the main points I should make? I want to make the point that primary school kids need to see faces. Are there reputable sources on the psychological effects of seeing masks on other people?

Also, I’m getting pressure from others at work because I trust people who say they are mask exempt. My colleagues want me to be more strict. I won’t do it as the law is, in my mind, very clear about exemptions. Encourage me to stand firm, please.

439847 ▶▶ wendyk, replying to Ed Phillips, 50, #83 of 1661 🔗

Please do; we are with you.

My exemption lanyard has, surprisingly, been accepted everywhere to date and won 2 converts.

Not many admittedly, but 2 is better than none, especially here in Sturgeonia, where the Mad Queen issues her daily edicts.

440027 ▶▶▶ BertieFox, replying to wendyk, 10, #84 of 1661 🔗

You’re lucky! We’re not allowed any exemptions in brainwashed Ireland. We’re supposed to quietly suffocate in the name of obedience to the state.

440080 ▶▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to BertieFox, 5, #85 of 1661 🔗

This is not true. Do not be gaslit.

440371 ▶▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to BertieFox, 3, #86 of 1661 🔗

That’s clearly the fault of the Irish people.

440911 ▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to wendyk, 5, #87 of 1661 🔗

You don’t need a lanyard. They challenge you about masks; you tell them that this is harassment and if they do it once more it is a criminal offence under the 1997 Harassment Act. Send report to police if you have to.

439890 ▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Ed Phillips, 19, #89 of 1661 🔗

STAND FIRM, ED, AND F×CK EM!!!

439894 ▶▶ Alci, replying to Ed Phillips, 99, #90 of 1661 🔗

I’ve been supposed to wear masks at drop off and pick up for my four year old since late September.

I emailed the headmistress and said I’d wear masks when she shared empirical evidence of the spread of respiratory disease outside, at a >2m distance, over ~1 min time period. Until such time, I would be prioritising my children’s emotional well-being above virtue signalling.
(Plus included placatory comments about how I understood it was hard for her as she was under pressure from other parents etc; a link to the Planet Normal interview with Sunetra Gupta; and sob story that in making this stand I would make myself a pariah among the other parents..)

There are various useful comments re psychological effects on the Facebook #usforthem group, or try contacting them on Twitter.

I’ve stopped noticing / caring. I’m the only one who doesn’t muzzle. Occasionally I troll them and wear red lipstick. It’s quite empowering really. Do it!!!

439985 ▶▶▶ marebobowl, replying to Alci, 16, #91 of 1661 🔗

Good for you. It will take many more parents to stand up to complete “nonsense” as some non gov’t scientific advisors call it.

440152 ▶▶▶ mariehelene, replying to Alci, 23, #92 of 1661 🔗

good for you! I do the same in all my local supermarkets/bank/ food store! I’ve never been bothered by anyone so far and I am definitely the only one proudly and ostensibly not wearing a muzzle! It’s liberating and I look in peoples eyes to say » here, you can do it «  . But most are quite happy conforming.

440914 ▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to mariehelene, 7, #93 of 1661 🔗

They challenge you about masks; you tell them that this is harassment and if they do it once more it is a criminal offence under the 1997 Harassment Act. Send report to police if you have to.

440193 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Alci, 18, #94 of 1661 🔗

What’s the point of wearing masks at all in schools now?
If it’s voluntary in the classroom, what sense does it make to mandate it when going to the toilet or through the alleys, for parents, teachers or kids, let alone outside?!
All parents and kids, who haven’t lost all their marbles yet, should really refuse to wear a mask in any place on the school grounds from now on- just say you’re exempt if challenged.
It would be a continuation of the behavioral protest seen over the weekend and the resulting capitulation by the police.
NOW is the time to hereby bring about another one.

440379 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to JayBee, 9, #95 of 1661 🔗

“capitulation by the police…”

Thanks for this comment. I needed cheering up.

440476 ▶▶▶▶ Alci, replying to JayBee, 28, #96 of 1661 🔗

None of it makes sense!

I brought in a box of bath bombs as class gifts when it was my daughter’s birthday last week (thought food would be too problematic), and was told they had to be quarantined for a fortnight before they could be distributed.

When I said I’d bought them online a couple of weeks prior & they were individually wrapped, I just had blank looks. Computer says no. Logic and reason have left the building.

I’d hoped my mask-refusal would spread, but I continue to be the only one, and am actively shunned by many parents. Since our children only started school in September, I’ve never met the parents properly – and now, I know which ones I never need bother with!

440376 ▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Alci, 7, #97 of 1661 🔗

Red lipstick doesn’t look good on me 😉

440729 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 2, #98 of 1661 🔗

Try it.

440726 ▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Alci, 8, #99 of 1661 🔗

Brilliant. Strong women to the fore.

440926 ▶▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Alci, 7, #100 of 1661 🔗

Good for you Alci, love the red lipstick idea, maybe try ‘hot pants’ as well (if they still exist) That should blow their minds.

Oh, and if you have never heard it, look up the Jeannie C Riley song ‘Harper Valley PTA’ on YouTube, it might have been written for you.

441067 ▶▶▶ HelenaHancart, replying to Alci, 8, #101 of 1661 🔗

I think I might have mentioned it before but I walked past a primary school (when the kids were last there) just at home time, and I saw the most depressing site ever, of muzzled parents standing separately, in little chalked circles all over the playground, in dead silence. Only one mum, unmuzzled, stood behind the railings on the pavement – I felt like saluting her with a high-five!

441085 ▶▶▶ HelenaHancart, replying to Alci, 16, #102 of 1661 🔗

I make a point of slapping on red lipstick when I go unmuzzled in shops. Women used wear it during the war as an act of defiance and patriotism, because Hitler apparently hated it on women, and now we are too!

441172 ▶▶▶▶ Alci, replying to HelenaHancart, 5, #103 of 1661 🔗

I’d never heard that! Great point!

439896 ▶▶ Sodastream, replying to Ed Phillips, 27, #104 of 1661 🔗

There are template letters on us for them Uk including one on this! I was in the same post as you last sept when the school said the same. I’ve never worn one and I’m mainly the only one. I’ve never been spoken to about it and don’t wear a lanyard.
How dare they dictate to the parents what they do outside of school! Everyone including teachers in their hideous black muzzles is hard to look at every day. But look at the letter on us for them. It says what you’re wanting to say about psychological damage etc.

439918 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Ed Phillips, 15, #105 of 1661 🔗

Apart from the very first day of mandatory masks in shops I have never been challenged about my exempt status.
On that first occasion I explained the law to the owner of my favourite convenience store because nobody had briefed him.

Could somebody give Ed the lawnotfiction PDF link ?

440544 ▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to karenovirus, 3, #106 of 1661 🔗

Here is a link to the PDF

https://laworfiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Face-Covering-Exemption-Notice-with-Law-Explained-24-July-2020.pdf

Anyone facing the ‘jab up or lose your job’ scenario should look at this LawOrFiction blog entry. It points to the importance of risk assessment, which relate to ‘severe danger’ not ‘transmission of a disease’ or ‘customer concerns’. The same should surely apply to jabbing. (IANALAIDPOOT*).

https://laworfiction.com/2020/07/risk-assessments-an-important-chink-in-the-lockdown-armour/

*- I Am Not A Lawyer And I Dont Play One On TV

440917 ▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Ken Garoo, 2, #107 of 1661 🔗

They challenge you about masks; you tell them that this is harassment and if they do it once more it is a criminal offence under the 1997 Harassment Act. Send report to police if you have to.

439924 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Ed Phillips, 14, #108 of 1661 🔗

There’s this excellent letter from the UK Medical Freedom Alliance:

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/602e6afd2d5e00dbe4cfd228_UKMFA_Open_Letter_Face_Mask_Mandates.pdf

All the best and remember that you have the law on your side.

439939 ▶▶ Dobba, replying to Ed Phillips, 29, #109 of 1661 🔗

What are the main points I should make?” Just say ‘NO!’, especially if you’re outside. Wearing a mask outside is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen lately.

439974 ▶▶▶ Ed Phillips, replying to Dobba, 10, #110 of 1661 🔗

I will be saying no and ignoring it. One of the things I am concerned about is the waverer who doesn’t want to be different.
If I can persuade the headmistress to go back to the previous sensible policy then it’s job done.

440919 ▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Dobba, #112 of 1661 🔗

They challenge you about masks; you tell them that this is harassment and if they do it once more it is a criminal offence under the 1997 Harassment Act. Send report to police if you have to.

441226 ▶▶▶ Elisabeth, replying to Dobba, 2, #113 of 1661 🔗

I usually can’t help myself when I see people outside by themselves with a muzzle on: I make sheep noises 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑

439991 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Ed Phillips, 20, #114 of 1661 🔗

NO law about wearing facemasks outside. What are they going to do, give you detention.

439992 ▶▶ BTLnewbie, replying to Ed Phillips, 7, #115 of 1661 🔗

Nobody has questioned my exemption lanyard from the start – nor should they!

439997 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Ed Phillips, 7, #116 of 1661 🔗
440047 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Ed Phillips, 11, #117 of 1661 🔗

Don’t write, you are getting involved in their games. Just make it clear, through the child if of strong character that they won’t be wearing a muzzle. Then sue if there is any pushback.

440055 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Ed Phillips, 25, #118 of 1661 🔗

My kids school asked for masks at drop off. I never did. 90% compliance and now dwindled to around 50%.

Every time someone sees another unmasked it gives them the message that none of this is required. It’s choice.

440076 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Ed Phillips, 13, #119 of 1661 🔗

Just say NO. No one has to wear a mask!

440091 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Ed Phillips, 9, #120 of 1661 🔗

I think it depends on how much emotional energy you are willing to expend upon this. It sounds like yours is waning (not a criticism – it’s been a year!) and that you’re likely to be in a protracted battle if you engage in debate with the school/colleague.

I suggest you just don’t wear a mask at school pick-up, lead by example. And cut your colleagues off in the quickest way possible – print off the Law on this, highlight the relevant part and email to all/stick it to the wall?

440137 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Ed Phillips, 8, #121 of 1661 🔗

Say simply masks do not work and the virus is no more lethal than Influenza.

440338 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Ed Phillips, 10, #122 of 1661 🔗

Dont wear one, its insane. Tell them they are insane. Tell them they are fools.
Tell them to……whatever suits.

Good luck

440549 ▶▶ stewart, replying to Ed Phillips, 3, #123 of 1661 🔗

Just carry on as normal. You’ll be fine.

440603 ▶▶ TreeHugger, replying to Ed Phillips, 11, #124 of 1661 🔗

Re the pressure at work, please don’t give in, push back.
I gave in and wore an exemption lanyard. It’s hard to have to wear something that singles you out after a lifetime of trying to fit in to what often feels like an alien environment (I’m autistic). The lanyard has the advantage that it does stop most of the awkward questions, and reduces confrontation. Even the hospital didn’t question it when I had to have an MRI this week. I resent the need to wear something that singles me out, but for now at least it reduces my stress levels. Ask your colleagues to put themselves in the shoes of someone who is exempt and think how they would feel constantly being confronted.

440719 ▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Ed Phillips, 3, #125 of 1661 🔗

I would just point blank refuse, it gets more ridiculous every day.

440909 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to Ed Phillips, 2, #126 of 1661 🔗

They challenge you about masks; you tell them that this is harassment and if they do it once more it is a criminal offence under the 1997 Harassment Act. Send report to police if you have to.

441299 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Ed Phillips, 2, #127 of 1661 🔗

They can’t make you wear a mask, so just don’t!

439845 Stephen Williams, replying to Stephen Williams, 35, #128 of 1661 🔗

I dreamt the Queen replied to my email.

My Dearest Subject Steve,

Thank you for your email. We read it on the throne. Thinking of Mr Johnson so eases constipation.

We agree whole heartedly that our Government are a useless bunch of twats. Lard arse thinks he is Winston Churchill and Mr Hancock is a total nob. As for that B lister Smugness Shapps then how the fuck did he get into my Government!

We are grateful for your kind offer to chop off their heads for free. Alas we are forbidden by those same fuckers whose heads we want to chop off. We fear that without their heads they would only run around in even tighter circles. Your kind offer to quarter them with your chainsaw would of course stop that.

Constitional monarchy is such a bore.

Your Britannic Majesty

Liz (Queen)

PS. When the fuckers let me out let’s get right royal shit faced in Hyde Park.

439853 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Stephen Williams, 37, #129 of 1661 🔗

So, Your Hanoverian Majesty, descendant of a long line of crass fools and madmen, what induced you to call us ‘selfish’ for exercising our human right to refuse a medical procedure?

439856 ▶▶▶ Stephen Williams, replying to Annie, 14, #130 of 1661 🔗

My dearest subject Annie,

If we chopped off the heads of anyone who tested positive then we wouldn’t have any problem what so ever.

My dearest ancestor Charles said to me that he didn’t feel a thing. Just like the jab I had.

Liz (Queen)

439870 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Stephen Williams, 30, #131 of 1661 🔗

Glad you’re keeping your head, Old Trout, if not your arm.

PS. I was a monarchist until last week.

440956 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bungle, replying to Annie, 2, #132 of 1661 🔗

Monarchy, like slavery, is undemocratic. It privileges some people’s kids over others. This is true no matter how many support such ideas.

439860 ▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Annie, 7, #133 of 1661 🔗

Does make you wonder where they’ll be getting their non-GMO adreno from, if everyone’s diseased?

439927 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Annie, 7, #134 of 1661 🔗

Dear Madam,

There is an investigation ongoing on who inserted the word “selfish” into one’s spiel.

Once the person has been named s/he will be subject to disciplinary procedures.

Yours faithfully,

The Queen

439922 ▶▶ karenovirus, replying to Stephen Williams, 10, #135 of 1661 🔗

Let’s hope Phil hangs on for a while.
A Socially Distanced Royal Funeral would be a lockdown zealots wet dream.

440107 ▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to karenovirus, 7, #136 of 1661 🔗

If he croaks it within 28 days of his jab shouldn’t that go down as a vaxx death though?

I imagine like a lot of things, the Royals are publicly pious but privately massive skeptics. I can’t believe that actually believe all this guff. Hopefully Phil will give us his best foot in mouth gaffe yet on his deathbed and reveal its all a load of bollocks.

440501 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 2, #137 of 1661 🔗

I suspect the likes of Phil and Anne are sceptics.

440386 ▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Stephen Williams, #138 of 1661 🔗

Don’t you mean “Brenda” 😉

440550 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Stephen Williams, #139 of 1661 🔗

Fake: The real signature would be

Madge (Queen)

439846 wendyk, replying to wendyk, 12, #140 of 1661 🔗

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/03/01/the-dis-united-kingdom-of-lockdown/

A good one from spiked.

Layer upon layer of devolved, pettifogging confusion as the well paid leaders impose their irrational confusing edicts on long suffering business owners and their staff.

439883 ▶▶ Annie, replying to wendyk, 23, #141 of 1661 🔗

It’s an unending egofest for petty little jerks like Dungford. Before the bollox started, virtually nobody in Wales knew who the wrinkly little tortoise was, and still fewer cared. Now, suddenly, he’s Stalin Redivivus.

439969 ▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Annie, 15, #142 of 1661 🔗

Someone, obviously with more courage than sense once asked Stalin what was the secret of his continued domination of the Sovite Union.
“Simple” said he “Fear of death”
Our current leaders, terrifying the population into a subservience unbelievable a year ago with dubious fatality statistics, have clearly learned from the Master of Evil.

439972 ▶▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to mikewaite, 1, #143 of 1661 🔗

Soviet , not Sovite of course

440012 ▶▶▶▶ Marcus Junius Brutus, replying to mikewaite, 2, #144 of 1661 🔗

Fear is the whip, that’s why it’s so important to work to overcome fear. But who will even try?

440319 ▶▶▶▶▶ Binra, replying to Marcus Junius Brutus, 3, #145 of 1661 🔗

As the level of fear involved in leveraging fear into a masking ‘reality’ (mind-control) becomes like to the fear of facing the conflicted reality, then the tipping point will shift.

Fear of death underlies all tyranny – but the forms it takes are fear of pain of loss – such that the idea of limited sacrifice operates as the compliance and appeasement of price to pay to buy more time or delay the inevitable.

Physical fear of death is quite distinct. But the psychic counterpart is a fear of loss of face, or control, of inclusion, validity, or perceived and accepted worthiness, and thus the fear of becoming the object of hate, vilification, damnation, excommunication – pain, torture, defencelessness to unchecked evil.

Our psychic emotional communication is not the same as our masking presentation and distantiation that ever seeks to hide in the imagery and forms of association with truth or virtue but has none.

The suppression of the psychic emotional is its demonisation, dissociation and masking over of both fear and love for a rulebound and blind set of locked down thinking that sees only threat in both and defends this ‘dissociation’ as its salvation at cost of lidding over fear and attacking the love – or messengers of healing.

440087 ▶▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to mikewaite, 3, #146 of 1661 🔗

EXACTLY! Free yourself from the fear of death and they can’t do a thing to you!

440302 ▶▶▶▶ GCarty80, replying to mikewaite, 3, #147 of 1661 🔗

Stalin was clearly far more lethal than Covid though. 😀

I suspect our zero covid gang are driven more by shame and fear than guilt: they look up to the Covid success stories in China, Australia and NZ in much the same way as Emperor Meiji or Kemal Atatürk looked up to the West.

440307 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to GCarty80, 4, #148 of 1661 🔗

My lockdown in the Ukraine in 1932 was highly effective. Not one person died of the Rona.

440005 ▶▶▶ wendyk, replying to Annie, 2, #149 of 1661 🔗

So right Annie.

439849 chaos, replying to chaos, 53, #150 of 1661 🔗

My neighbours and I got someone kicked out of ‘their’ house for 3 months (possibly forever) partially due to our covid snitching. Before you get your knickers in a twist read on:

For several years now police have had the ability to close down properties thought to be dealing drugs. In recognosition that dealers can be canny twats, drugs don’t need to be found. If police are convinced by calls from residents that dealing seems to be occuring, a house can be shut down to all comings and goings expect the named resident for a period of 3 months. Forever if the case is strong enough. Evictions usually occur in rented accomodation if further breaches are made.

A search of the internet reveals there have been a few cases where repeated covid breaches has allowed the police to shut down a property.

I live next door to a crook. Had county lines dealers in my garden escaping police. Had months of not sleeping cos of drug dealing. Had anti-social behaiour and violence and initimdation outside and next door. The housing association in their wisdom allowed them back after a 3 months closure for suspected dealing last year. He then only dealt a few times from the house and instead used the house to store and ferry unknown packages (a few times every day) to other properties.It caused a lot of stress for this known crook to be allowed back to live with his slag druggy girlfriend (the named resident).

But those few covid breaches were enough to add to the hearsay evidence. The straw that broke the camels back.

Soon the scum will finally be gone. Guilt for snitching? None.

439851 ▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to chaos, 17, #151 of 1661 🔗

I fear it is going to take a long time to rebuild the commitment to the rule of law, which is a fundamental foundation for liberty and rights.

439854 ▶▶▶ chaos, replying to Steve Hayes, 2, #152 of 1661 🔗

not sure what your point is.

439925 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to chaos, 22, #153 of 1661 🔗

he means we no longer have the rule of law, instead we have a police state, the rule of thuggery. he’s right, the rule of law is a complex and delicate mechanism, established over centuries of civilisation

439855 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Steve Hayes, 25, #154 of 1661 🔗

You worry me.
If I had a commitment to the rule of Dung Law, here in Gulag Wales, I would not have left my house since Christmas except to buy food.
I am now a hardened lawbreaker. That habit may be hard to break.

439904 ▶▶▶▶ ElizaP, replying to Annie, 19, #155 of 1661 🔗

Well I’ve left my house every time I decided I would and for as long as I decided I would ever since this whole shit show started. Fortunately I am no believer in the concept of a Welsh Assembly anyway and so just regard him as a glorified County Council leader and why would I listen to the leader of Devon County Council? (ie the county I am from) and therefore I have never given him any credence anyway. As he regards this as being a different country (clue – I don’t agree with him LOL) – then has he given any indication whether Midsummer Freedom Day will be the same for this part of the country or is he intent on, yet again, deliberately being different in order to make out this is a different country again and he has some validity?

439928 ▶▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to ElizaP, 16, #156 of 1661 🔗

the reason you have to listen to him is that he has the power to arrest, fine, imprison or slap a criminal record on you – in other words he can use state-endorsed violence against you. As I said – thuggery

440735 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to JaneHarry, 5, #157 of 1661 🔗

All the prosecutions under the coronavirus so called law have been unlawful, even if one pretends the coronavirus supposed law is law.

440727 ▶▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to Annie, 5, #158 of 1661 🔗

The coronavirus regulations are unconstitutional and unlawful.

439852 ▶▶ chaos, replying to chaos, 1, #159 of 1661 🔗

some crackhead has thumbed me down. lol

439874 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to chaos, -8, #160 of 1661 🔗

You’re the person that deserves to be locked up.

439880 ▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Anti_socialist, 23, #161 of 1661 🔗

I was having trouble with my neighbour. Every time she got drunk, she start screaming some horrible abuse at all the neighbours. Me, being new to the area, has no idea Happened mostly at nighttime, and I sleep like the dead. But it upset my daughter something awful. So, I informed my neighbour, I’d kick her head in if she ever disturbed my family again. Problem solved. People just don’t know how to be responsible for themselves, always waiting to be rescued, poor little victims!

439881 ▶▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Jinks, #162 of 1661 🔗

So, I informed my neighbour, I’d kick her head in if she ever disturbed my family again.

Hmm nice a cellmate for chaos.

439893 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ chaos, replying to Anti_socialist, -3, #163 of 1661 🔗

try reading again. i’m not the one who’s house has been shut down.

put down the crackpipe.

439901 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Anti_socialist, 23, #164 of 1661 🔗

she was threatening to have my daughter stabbed, and the police round here are next to useless. And it worked. She’s been quiet as a mouse since! Long may it continue.

439889 ▶▶▶▶▶ chaos, replying to Jinks, -6, #165 of 1661 🔗

yeah yeah hard man.
there have been knife and gun incidents. feel free to be Jason Stratham. be my guest.

439902 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to chaos, 5, #166 of 1661 🔗

That’s “hard woman” to you.

440348 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Jinks, 2, #167 of 1661 🔗

THIS is a hard woman

440458 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ mj, replying to Two-Six, 1, #168 of 1661 🔗

wow ,. not seen Mrs Bacon for a long time .

439931 ▶▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Jinks, 14, #169 of 1661 🔗

the first consequence of the death of the rule of law: in order to protect yourself and your family, you have no choice but to resort to violence yourself

439934 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to JaneHarry, 10, #170 of 1661 🔗

When seconds count, the police are minutes away. In certain postcodes, even if they do turn up, they invariably make things worse. We have a politicised police farce, I’m afraid, destroyed by Bliar, as well a Supreme court, no longer fit for purpose!

440405 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Binra, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #171 of 1661 🔗

There is the law in our heart and the law of the letter, then there is the breakdown of law as the distancing and lockdown to the weaponisation of the letter or word of the law as the usurping of Law – or violence in the name of the law.

If you throw out the law in your heart, you will deliver yourself and your family to violence and the fruits of violence – which is not just physical harm, but a denied and tortured life.

The resort to self-defence needs to be held to the law of your true relationship – otherwise you let yourself be possessed by grievance, hate and vengeance – and seek to make THIS the law of your life.

The use of proportionate force in self-defence is not the same as violence. Truth cannot die! But our awareness of our heart’s honesty can be covered over and buried by personal grievance, worshipped and set in hate as virtue.

Part of ‘Satan’s wager’ is to induce a love of hate in those who were created love. But who loves to hate MUST then hate to love. If you forfeit love you have a parody set as substitute for life – as readily personified in our current crop of dear leaders! Do you love your family? Or are they extensions to your own exclusion zone?

I understand you feel shit about the way all this is going. But is that the basis to kill the Law so as to spread the infection of lawlessness as the new normal?

Is that so different to the propagation of the idea that humans are ‘infected’ worthless and unworthy of life or freedom and so must be locked down as the normal state from which limited and controlled permissions are granted for compliance?

If we do not want to be treated as lab rats, pharm stock or reconditioned carbon units, we need to bring forth a truly human spirit or integrity of being. Merely reacting as conditioned response is running an old set of laws, rules or defaults that run blind, and blind those who run them.

The issue of choice is that of true freedom. If fear sets the range of choice, there is no choice but to repeat a past made in fear. What goes around, comes around. I have no argument with your freedom to protect yourself and your family. I write to illuminate the realm of choices that are locked down and denied by fear-triggered ‘mind’.

Imagination given to fear, becomes a psychic-emotional reality, that then runs as true, and as the basis from which laws proceed as surely as garbage in leads to garbage out with any logical modelling running on false and therefore unlawful presumptions.

439873 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to chaos, -3, #172 of 1661 🔗

What a nasty little busy body!

439912 ▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to chaos, 25, #173 of 1661 🔗

It rather resembles that joke about calling the police to say there’s an intruder in your house and they won’t come out, but say that the intruder isn’t wearing a mask and they will be there like a shot. Seems only breaking the sacred covid law counts these days.
I wouldn’t normally condone covid snitching but sometimes you have to use the tools you have available. Hope you enjoy a more peaceful life now.

439920 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to chaos, 10, #174 of 1661 🔗

2 observations: 1) covid violations are the only ‘crime’ that the police will take effective action on 2) so whatever motive you might have to bring someone down, noble or not, there is your go-to method

439941 ▶▶▶ jos, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #175 of 1661 🔗

Didn’t work with Cummings or Ferguson.

439984 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to JaneHarry, 2, #176 of 1661 🔗

dont forget hate crimes – question a person’s gender choice on twitter and the police will be on you

440561 ▶▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to mj, 1, #177 of 1661 🔗

I self-identify as Napoleon Bonaparte. I really should get a better tailor. These all white outfits are a little … constraining. As for being locked down, tell me about it. Been there, lost the arm.

439857 Annie, replying to Annie, 16, #178 of 1661 🔗

Interesting about Egypt ATL. I went to Cairo once and was amazed at the phenomenal crowding everywhere. It had occurred to me, before today, to wonder how the place could possibly be ‘locked down’.
So have Egyptians been dying like flies from Covvie? I think we should be told.

439863 ▶▶ Stephen Williams, replying to Annie, 38, #179 of 1661 🔗

I can’t speak for Egypt but if you saw Khyelisha on the Cape Flats here in South Africa you would be horrified. Who knows how many poor souls live in those tin shacks; some estimates say 2.4m. No social distancing and no piles of dead bodies.

To cap it all places like that are an afront to humanity yet the British Government has spent £300bn like King Canute. Poverty kills many more than covid ever will and I see a better way to spend money.

439866 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Stephen Williams, 11, #180 of 1661 🔗

Yes, even a bit of that monkey money could have achieved all sorts of wonders, if directed by someone faintly human.
The scenario must be duplicated all over the Third World. How come any slum dwellers, anywhere, are left alive?

439872 ▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Annie, 9, #181 of 1661 🔗

Having seen the slums in Delhi, up close and personal, I’ve often wondered the same.

439917 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Stephen Williams, 21, #182 of 1661 🔗

more proof, more grist to the mill, if any were needed, that this was NEVER about saving lives, or had anything to do with the betterment of humanity. it is a power grab by unscrupulous people: unlimited funds and resources are ALWAYS available for that

439957 ▶▶▶ Dobba, replying to Stephen Williams, 7, #183 of 1661 🔗

Having driven past Khayelitsha numerous times on my way into central Cape Town I was horrified at them then and that was 9-10 year ago. How there can be so much poverty and so much wealth side by side like that (and by poverty and wealth I really mean black and white) sickens me. Cape Town is a beautiful place with an ugly secret.

439986 ▶▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Dobba, 6, #184 of 1661 🔗

These lockdowns lead to more poverty – people cant feed themselves or their children. In addition these poor people have to spend money to buy masks

440112 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Victoria, 8, #185 of 1661 🔗

That’s the thing that baffles me and I’ve come to the conclusion that the poor are being forced to go without food just to avoid falling foul of whatever law there is.

439965 ▶▶ TreeHugger, replying to Annie, 24, #186 of 1661 🔗

Do you think maybe living in less than spotlessly clean conditions leads to a stronger immune system?

My kids got dirty and even ate dirt yet were never ill in childhood and still pretty healthy as adults, their cousins were wrapped in cotton wool and sanitized at every opportunity yet the whole family are always ill. A bit of muck is good for you.

440117 ▶▶▶ rose, replying to TreeHugger, 8, #187 of 1661 🔗

Definitely. I had a school friend many years ago who came to play in my garden, while her mother drank coffee with my mother inside. Her mother asked mine if we had any manure in the garden. My mother replied “yes” The friend ‘s mother came out and shouted to her. She immediately had to go home! She always had cold.

440450 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to TreeHugger, 6, #188 of 1661 🔗

In one of James Herriot’s vet stories, I forget which one, he mentioned the local knacker’s yard. Dead, sometimes partially butchered animals lying in the yard and beginning to bloat up. He also mentioned that the knacker’s children were the healthiest ones in the village.

440773 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Waldorf, 3, #189 of 1661 🔗

Farmers’ children in Switzerland was an early example cited.

440351 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Annie, 1, #190 of 1661 🔗

I bet most of the tourist donkeys have been turned into kebabs and glue by now.

439859 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 16, #191 of 1661 🔗

Anyone notice a pattern here? All the countries with most Draconian mitigation measures discover their very own whu-flu variant, SA, UK, BRAZ just coincidence? Effect of lockdown? Obsessive testing regime? Just blatant fiction because they’ve not isolated or purified it under koch’s postulates criteria?

When will LS investigate & answer this question has anyone formally proven under standard procedures Covid-19 exists!

Will a Australian variant be next?

439861 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Anti_socialist, 49, #192 of 1661 🔗

A bigger coincidence is those 3 countries are where Astra Zeneca tested their vaccine.

439862 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to Anti_socialist, 22, #193 of 1661 🔗

Aren’t these also the countries where the majority of these, ahem, “vaccine” trials took place?

439905 ▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to Jinks, 12, #194 of 1661 🔗

I’ve been wondering this too.
Is it that viral surveillance is better in countries where the studies were done, as a legacy of those studies (should be easy to answer), or is it because the vaccines have led to the proliferation of mutant forms, as a result of partial immunity?

It is an important question.

439910 ▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to sophie123, 7, #195 of 1661 🔗

personally, I think it’s all bollocks. How many of these people, would have tested positive for flu A or B? How many had the flu jab? But I do find it interesting, that the coincidence is studiously ignored. As well, that the most likely explanation, is that these experimental therapies are already causing a negative reaction by overpriming of the immune system, or these new strains are just to terrify people into annual boosters, as it is with the flu.

439868 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Anti_socialist, 19, #196 of 1661 🔗

The Kangaroo Variant.It hops from person to person.

440438 ▶▶▶ charleyfarley, replying to Annie, 6, #197 of 1661 🔗

I think it’s time someone compiled a Covid Variant Joke Book. I’ll start things off:

‘I got that Brazilian variant. Laid me up for two weeks and my pubic hair fell out.’

OR

‘That Nigerian one’s a bugger. Fever, nasty cough, then it hacked my computer and emptied my bank account.’

Etc, etc.,

440566 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #198 of 1661 🔗

There is a similar effect in Israel, where the plebs get Pfizered (rumor is that the nobs get Sputnik V which was registered first).

Actually this gives the idea of a meme:

Don’t Pfize me, bro!

439864 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 13, #199 of 1661 🔗

What Happened to T-Cell Tests?

1. UK Govt could target only those who were not immune, rather than blanket jab everyone.

2. Those who were nervous of the jabs could find out if they were at risk or fine as-is.

3. The Covid certificates (AKA health passports), if inevitable (I hope not), could incorporate those who have natural immunity, so reducing the prospective ‘apartheid’ such a device would bring in.

This is sinister! It makes me very suspicious of the motive for all this testing. Does it record personal DNA profile? Do they store the sample data & how long for, who has access?

439871 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to Anti_socialist, 4, #200 of 1661 🔗

Yes, they can keep it for up to 2 years, it can be accessed by any authorised person, including police, intelligence services and health professionals

439877 ▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Jinks, 3, #201 of 1661 🔗

It was kinda rhetorical, some while back Scottish police got into trouble because they weren’t destroying the DNA records after self date expiry. Still don’t think they have.

439899 ▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Anti_socialist, 1, #202 of 1661 🔗

Maybe the info will be new to someone else, though it’s unlikely in our well-informed bunch BTL.

439865 Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 21, #203 of 1661 🔗

Bliar doesn’t want vaccine passports he wants digital biometric ID, vaccine passports are just a cover to achieve it. Fits nicely with DNA harvesting don’t you think?

439867 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #204 of 1661 🔗

Minority Report.

439869 ▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Anti_socialist, 17, #205 of 1661 🔗

Every single prosecution under Coronavirus Act was found to be ‘unlawful’ ” Whos going to be accountable, for unlawful arrest = kidnap, unlawful detention = held hostage, unlawful fines (FPNs) = demands for money with menaces, making every physical arrest = assault! Who’s going to prison for it? = Yeah, that’s what I thought, no one!

439884 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Anti_socialist, 11, #206 of 1661 🔗

Nuremberg 2 hasn’t started yet.

439885 ▶▶▶▶ Anti_socialist, replying to Annie, 2, #207 of 1661 🔗

Should I hold my breath?

439960 ▶▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Anti_socialist, 3, #208 of 1661 🔗

Wait and hope.

439983 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Anti_socialist, 6, #210 of 1661 🔗

Yes Blair and Gates are working together

440030 ▶▶▶ Bigade, replying to Victoria, 7, #211 of 1661 🔗

Blair is a major recipient of Old Bills dosh. What do we think all that money buys….Blairs smiling face on a few leaflets??

439882 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 65, #212 of 1661 🔗

I know the data gets boring but I just checked the Gov/NHS dashboard, they are recording 731410 tests per day with yesterday 6035 +ve test results recorded that gives a +ve test result of 0.83% of tests conducted which I guess must bring us into the realms of dubious statistical significance.
In NHS England hospital covid patients have dropped from 34,000 in January to 11,090 yesterday, that number of dodgy ‘covid’ diagnosis hospital patients is again hardly significant.
The Police seem to have got bored of harassing the public.

They have now jabbed 1/3rd of the population with covid potion

And so I find myself asking what are we doing? Why do the Government persist in stretching the lockdown which is now tantamount to flogging a dead horse?

Whether it is the lockdown, the vaccine or the natural seasonal decline of the virus would I be correct is saying that in the UK this virus is fast disappearing up its own fundament, possibly too fast for the Governments dastardly plans? Certainly at the moment I feel the vaccine drive to jab the remaining 2/3ds of the population could well falter if it becomes clear to people that the fear has gone. And by the crowds out at the weekend it would seem that is what is happening.

439907 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Steve Martindale, 9, #213 of 1661 🔗

I think the government are relying on the non-seasonal modelling that predicts an explosion of cases if we relax restrictions. I think they think the restrictions work.

439908 ▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to steve_w, 37, #214 of 1661 🔗

How do they reconcile Sweden with that concept?
or North & South Dakota?
or California & Florida?

I really don’t understand this. How can you not look at those countries & states and not notice that your hypothesis doesn’t hold up.

439915 ▶▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to sophie123, 45, #215 of 1661 🔗

your mistake is to look for logic in the narrative, it is not underpinned by any logic, it is underpinned by brainwashing. if you are standing outside of the brainwashed, none of it makes any sense at all

439916 ▶▶▶▶▶ sophie123, replying to JaneHarry, 9, #216 of 1661 🔗

Sadly true.

440026 ▶▶▶▶▶ Hugh_Manity, replying to JaneHarry, 9, #217 of 1661 🔗

“Though this be madness , yet there is method in ‘t.” W.S.

440571 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Hugh_Manity, 3, #218 of 1661 🔗

It was called ‘the facts are fixed around the policy’ in Tory Bliar’s time.

439919 ▶▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to sophie123, 31, #219 of 1661 🔗

Diamond Princess Cruise ship, the USS Theodore Roosevelt? The saturation news coverage. World Military Games 2019 Wuhan. Mysterious pneumonia blamed on vaping in the US. Event 201, lab-leak hypothesis, unlawful Gain of Function studies, criminally sub-let to Chinese labs since the Obama-era. Its All been fear-porn propoganda, from the start. Fear is the real virus everyone’s been infected with!

440573 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Jinks, 3, #220 of 1661 🔗

Found in curated water samples (taken for quality control) dating to March 2019 in Spain.

441321 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ richardw53, replying to Ken Garoo, 1, #221 of 1661 🔗

One thing puzzles me – many say that the virus has never actually been found; yet others say that it was found in 2019. Should I disbelieve them both?

439945 ▶▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to sophie123, 13, #222 of 1661 🔗

I am pretty sure they look at the UK in a vacuum. From their point of view ‘Sweden is cold and low density’, ‘Florida is tropical’ etc. I assume they ignore everywhere because trying to make their model fit various different places would invalidate the model

440517 ▶▶▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to steve_w, 1, #223 of 1661 🔗

Probably, although when it suits them to factor in the rest of the world, as a threat , they do.

440206 ▶▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to sophie123, 8, #224 of 1661 🔗

Simples. You put your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and go, lalalalalalalalalalala and they who shall not be named dissappear. Now thats magic. Did you see Kristi’s the governor of SD fantastic speech? What a girl! And we get Sadiq kant! and that twat from Manchester burnthemallup.

440907 ▶▶▶▶▶ Woden, replying to Spikedee1, 2, #225 of 1661 🔗

She made me lament for the clowns we have here.

439959 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to steve_w, 7, #226 of 1661 🔗

Correction. That’s what they want us to think.

440118 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Steve Martindale, 13, #227 of 1661 🔗

731,410?!?!?!?!? In ONE DAY? That’s like over 10% of the population? All the testing centres are empty? They must think were absolute idiots because I do not believe this for a second.

440247 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 13, #228 of 1661 🔗

Just over 1%, SBC, but agreed the numbers are absurd; they’re claiming to be testing this many almost every day. The last 7 days (for which numbers are available):

19-02-2021 521,230
20-02-2021 408,118
21-02-2021 590,591
22-02-2021 670,560
23-02-2021 594,629
24-02-2021 740,717
25-02-2021 731,410

The same people being tested over and over again.

440400 ▶▶▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to Ceriain, 4, #229 of 1661 🔗

Yes. Once you take out those people being repeatedly tested I suspect that the number of new and unique individuals testing positive is vanishingly small

440589 ▶▶▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 2, #230 of 1661 🔗

I think all NHS staff in hospitals are tested frequently (several times a week) with the quick lateral flow test.

441257 ▶▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Ceriain, 1, #231 of 1661 🔗

Doh! Silly me, clearly it was too early for me yet 🤪 but the numbers are still ludicrous.

440159 ▶▶ eastender53, replying to Steve Martindale, 7, #232 of 1661 🔗

They have no interest in the virus or real numbers. They are protecting their skins against the backlash should the truth come out. We mustn’t do this but if a universal pardon was offered this would all go away.

439891 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 25, #233 of 1661 🔗

Devi Sridhar seems to be attempting to rebrand Zero-Covid as “Zero tolerance for Covid”. I expect she’ll rebrand it as something that looks like the Great Barrington Declaration by summer

440003 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to steve_w, 8, #234 of 1661 🔗

Do you think she’s trying to find a way out, Steve?

I’ll bet her and her ilk will soon start a mass deletion of their twats on Twatter in an attempt to claim they never said certain things.

440073 ▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to steve_w, 4, #235 of 1661 🔗

I think she should be branded.
“Now, form an orderly queue – you’ll all get a chance.”

440119 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to steve_w, 9, #236 of 1661 🔗

Another DISGUSTING WITCH who needs to be pursued at the next Nuremberg.

440212 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to FedupofLies, 7, #237 of 1661 🔗

Hate the fluffy no nothing bitch! I love how they call her a covid expert. How? Why? She is not a doctor or an epidemiologist.

440608 ▶▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Spikedee1, 3, #238 of 1661 🔗

She is a medical anthropologist with some very ‘good’ connections:

Rhodes Scholarship – Harvard Law School – All Souls, Oxford (UK spook territory) – Chatham House – WEF – WHO – GAVI.

440562 ▶▶ stewart, replying to steve_w, 4, #239 of 1661 🔗

My policy is actually “Zero tolerance for Devi Sridhar”

440594 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to steve_w, 2, #240 of 1661 🔗

‘Zero Covid’ is a propaganda term for ‘Infinite Lockdown’.

439895 Brett_McS, replying to Brett_McS, 34, #241 of 1661 🔗

It is not policeable. It is not manageable”. That’s the key. Don’t be “maneagable”

440128 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to Brett_McS, 3, #242 of 1661 🔗

It never has been. We’ve been legally allowed to meet one person so if questioned you just have to point to the one person you met. As does everyone else.
It’s only seemingly been “enforced” as it was f-ing freezing and dark.

439900 TJN, 18, #243 of 1661 🔗

So farewell Peter
You’ve been with us from the start
But now we’ve reached the looming cleft
Where our lonely path must part

It was a warm and sunny winter’s day
The awful news did fall
Which hangs around our roof tops
Like a dreaded funeral pall

It was just a little vial
It was just a little prick
I hope all is right with you
I hope you don’t get sick

For from that seeming capsule
Did bequeath a dread transition
From far-seeing oracle
To controlled opposition

Others ask you questions
Whence your gain or loss
But it’s really nothing to do with me
I couldn’t give a …

I bet you ordinary folk are in awe of the insights and profound wisdom cast before you all by we seers and poets!

439903 Bill Hickling, replying to Bill Hickling, 6, #244 of 1661 🔗

Can anyone direct me to studies on asymptomatic transmission in LS please?

439923 ▶▶ Bigade, replying to Bill Hickling, 15, #245 of 1661 🔗

There don’t appear to be any. Its an urban myth, one of several on which the covid cult has been built.

439944 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Bill Hickling, 6, #246 of 1661 🔗

Chinese did one on 10 million. They found an enormous number of asymto cases – zero. Obviously a grave threat. I have malaria you know. No symptoms, not sick, no problems – but trust me and the science. I am a carrier. When I jog, it flies out my fat ass. So diaper up.

https://www.worldtribune.com/study-of-10-million-chinese-shows-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-never-existed/

440619 ▶▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to FerdIII, 2, #247 of 1661 🔗

Yet the UK government, presumably advised by the Mad Modellers, officially claims 1 in 3 asymptomatic people pass it on to others.

That claim is key to the ‘utility’ of social distancing, mask use, lockdown for everyone, etc to promote the pre-determined policy.

Another item for the list of things for Ferguson et al to justify.

440765 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Ken Garoo, 3, #248 of 1661 🔗

‘Asymptomatic spread’ was the most brilliant part of the initial CCP psyop.

440064 ▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Bill Hickling, 2, #249 of 1661 🔗

This has been overtaken to a degree by the Wuhan study referenced here by FerdIII, but useful, forensic analysis by Craig and Engler nevertheless:
https://lockdownsceptics.org/has-the-evidence-of-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19-been-significantly-overstated-2/

439906 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 102, #250 of 1661 🔗

Bingo! We said yesterday, that after the weekend and the mass non-compliance, there would be a story about a new variant arriving here.

439909 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to kh1485, 21, #251 of 1661 🔗

I know, they’re so easy to read, the mystery is why so few can..

439914 ▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to kh1485, 29, #252 of 1661 🔗

Anybody else find the Torygraph headline about the desperate search for the one missing person with the ‘new variant’ a bit hysterical?

439943 ▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to disgruntled246, 22, #253 of 1661 🔗

Next weekend, the Icelandic variant will land, week after the Belarussian etc etc. New week, new variant, new fake numbers, SAGE model mafia, Doris crying, Wancock hancocking etc.

439954 ▶▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to disgruntled246, 12, #254 of 1661 🔗

I think it’s more or less directly taken from a special edition of Starsky and Hutch entitled “Plague”, where they were dashing around trying to find “the carrier” of a deadly plague to create a serum before Hutch died of it. Maybe the surviving Barclay is a fan.

440035 ▶▶▶ Bill H, replying to disgruntled246, 6, #255 of 1661 🔗

Shows the level of desperation has gone exponential.

440207 ▶▶▶ Steve F, replying to disgruntled246, 1, #256 of 1661 🔗

Yes but sadly true to form.

439937 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to kh1485, 14, #257 of 1661 🔗

As sure as night follows day. How people still can’t see through this is baffling.

439982 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to kh1485, 3, #258 of 1661 🔗

So funny that they are asking these people to come forward – thought your name if linked to your test and hey would thus know who these people are

439990 ▶▶▶ Ed Phillips, replying to Victoria, 2, #259 of 1661 🔗

The story is they didn’t complete the form.

440001 ▶▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Ed Phillips, 2, #260 of 1661 🔗

Ha ha as if they knew they had this new variant…..

440419 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Ed Phillips, 7, #261 of 1661 🔗

I would have assumed that in the normal course of events someone would have ditched the sample before it was even tested and just classified it as invalid or ‘spoilt’ simply because it didn’t have personal details attached to it. Convenient that they went through the rigmarole with this particular sample in the absence of contact details…maybe the person gave false details but we are not being told that for some reason. I certainly don’t think the story we have been given rings true.

440013 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to kh1485, 16, #262 of 1661 🔗

Not only yesterday, kh; look back the last couple of weeks and you will find we predicted this way back when they started on about variants.

I actually find the headlines/story quite pathetic; “ Plague Carrier loose in the UK! ” It’s like an episode of Doomwatch (there’s a blast from the past).

440029 ▶▶▶ Bill H, replying to Ceriain, 7, #263 of 1661 🔗

Doomwatch was brilliant. Watched as a kid. Scary stuff. I particularly enjoyed the episode about the rampant plastic eating bacteria destroying everything electrical and trashing the country..

440238 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Bill H, 3, #264 of 1661 🔗

The Andromeda Strain in one of its mutations ate plastic.

Next week’s headlines in the UK probably.

440053 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Ceriain, 7, #265 of 1661 🔗

Indeed. We play ‘guess the following day’s headlines’ most days!

440226 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to kh1485, 5, #266 of 1661 🔗

Oh tell me oh wise one the winner of the 3:30 at Kenpton! Yes they are so predictable now and as you saw at the weekend after captain no personality jvt told everyone to stay at home how compliance was total!! When will the fat pig dictator realise its over? Nobody is listening anymore!

440638 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to kh1485, 2, #267 of 1661 🔗

BREAKING NEWS:

From Mutt Handclock, SOS Health:

Following the mass disobediance this weekend resulting in the arrival of the Brazillion variant, the government has no choice but to make people fully aware of the conseqences of the selfish anti-social actions. For this reason, I plan to introduce legislation for a new offence resulting in the culprit being served an ASDO. This is modelled (by our wonderfull modellers) on the well-known ASBO. The legislation will be known as:

The Anti Social Distancing Order (ASDO) 2021 Act .

Full details will appear on the UK governmental website in due course.

439911 mattghg, replying to mattghg, 15, #268 of 1661 🔗

“Health sources said the jab, developed by Johnson & Johnson’s vaccines division Janssen, was not yet being considered by the MHRA for formal approval – a process that normally takes less than two weeks, based on the timelines for Pfizer and AstraZeneca’s jabs.”

Ah yes, what a wonderful baseline for what we should now consider “normal” SMH.

439933 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to mattghg, 10, #269 of 1661 🔗

Johnson & Johnson, another trustworthy company …

439940 ▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to kh1485, 9, #270 of 1661 🔗

Like Pfizer – 60 years of criminal history and lots of dead bodies. But hey, their fraduluent ‘tests’ and ‘studies’ on experimental-drug solutions are ‘science’….

440093 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to kh1485, 6, #271 of 1661 🔗

Ahem, don’t mention the cancer talc

440140 ▶▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 4, #272 of 1661 🔗

That was based on a serious misinterpretation of relative v absolute risk. The scare stories that it increased risk of cancer by 33% were only relative. The absolute risk increase was by 0.004% and even that was v dubious as they found no dose correlation.
This pseudoscience is an example of the sort of thing that got us into this covid mess.

440761 ▶▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 1, #273 of 1661 🔗

Exactly, thanks!

439913 Ovis, replying to Ovis, 34, #274 of 1661 🔗

In the coercion of the medical profession we are seeing not only the destruction of another pillar of liberal society, but also the rapid collapse of what many of us on here believed would be an immovable obstacle to the regime. Put not your trust in princes, nor in any child of man, etc.

The old rules do not apply, the old norms cannot protect us. With the coming of Spring it is almost natural to assume that we must be winning and a return to normality is in the air. Those who think that way are generally putting their faith in some established institution, such as the law or recognised political processes, or even the working of the free market as that used to exist. The reality is that none of that applies any more in the way we are used to, and in those terms we have already lost.

I am not suggesting we should give up. I am suggesting that we cannot rely on the state to self-correct. This is not going to come right on its own. If not now, when? If not us, then who?

440241 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Ovis, 21, #275 of 1661 🔗

Did you see the dreadful Telegraph piece ATL? Doctors not having the jab putting patients at risk!!! HOW?? Someone please explain how having the jab protects anybody other than the person having the jab. The level of stupidity in that one sentence proves the idiot writing the piece has no idea how vaccines work and has done no research and is just spouting government diktat.

440308 ▶▶▶ Jo, replying to Spikedee1, 14, #276 of 1661 🔗

Yes, so many people are falling into this trap. The pharma companies and Chris Witty et al have never said that the “vaccine” stops transmission, or contracting the virus. People are just ready to take the next mental step because it is what they want to believe. And then the idea becomes embedded and no-one will go back to the truth of it.

439926 PatrickF, replying to PatrickF, 26, #277 of 1661 🔗

Each year there are hundreds of thousands of viruses that have no home. Could you give warmth and shelter to one of these lonely, vulnerable viruses?
Thank you.

439951 ▶▶ Annie, replying to PatrickF, 16, #278 of 1661 🔗

Plenty of room in people’s face knickers.

439958 ▶▶ norwegian, replying to PatrickF, 6, #279 of 1661 🔗

I sheltered one last week. Routines were slightly disturbed but all in all a quiet polite lodger, good luck wherever you are now.

440815 ▶▶ Stevey, replying to PatrickF, #280 of 1661 🔗

#viruslivesmatter

439929 PatrickF, replying to PatrickF, 12, #281 of 1661 🔗

Fess up! Which one of you is hiding the Brazil nut variant?

439950 ▶▶ Annie, replying to PatrickF, 13, #282 of 1661 🔗

I’ve got a luvverly bunch of coconuts. It’s the Seychelles variant.

439930 alw, replying to alw, 15, #283 of 1661 🔗
  • A study from the National Institutes of Health claims wearing a moist mask is actually good for you because inhaling through the wet mask hydrates your lungs and boosts your immune system
  • However, it’s important to realize that the humidity inside the mask will rapidly allow pathogenic bacteria to grow and multiply. This is a documented fact not addressed by the NIH
  • Medical doctors have warned that bacterial pneumonia, facial rashes, fungal infections on the face, “mask mouth” (bad breath, tooth decay and gum inflammation) and candida mouth infections are all on the rise
  • By breathing through a bacteria-infested mask, you risk inhaling bacteria deep into your lungs, and according to recent research, the presence of microbes in your lungs can worsen lung cancer pathogenesis and contribute to advanced stage lung cancer
  • Face masks can also reduce oxygen intake, leading to hazardous oxygen deficiency (hypoxia), along with rapid accumulation of harmful carbon dioxide, which can have significant cognitive and physical impacts

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/03/01/moist-masks.aspx?ui=249949329df581682e05c54e7c49dd9c39e8ef605b13cfbfe5e47ee8868a483c&sd=20210130&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210301_HL2&mid=DM810947&rid=1095714693

439981 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to alw, 6, #284 of 1661 🔗

Shocking! You would think these ‘medical’ types would know that a moist mask will definitely lead to bacterial infections.

440116 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Victoria, 4, #285 of 1661 🔗

THEY KNOW!

THEY are just MONEY GRUBBING SCUM!

And some of them actually MURDER their unborn children for virtue signalling!

The medical and the scientific community is CORRUPT to the core.

440600 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to alw, 1, #286 of 1661 🔗

To the first point, wearing a moist mask, just as ridiculous as the claim it builds your chest muscles as you have to put more effort in to breathe.

440754 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Silke David, #287 of 1661 🔗

NHS could prescribe Incubus and Succubus treatments to strengthen the lungs.

439935 alw, replying to alw, 32, #288 of 1661 🔗

Adam Brooks

@EssexPR
·
7h

*BREAKING*
1/3
The reason there is not a Substantial Meal rule in current road map.
Someone in Hospitality stood up to the unscientific restrictions & won.
ALL future restrictions imposed ,will have to be backed up with evidence!
Small win with HUGE consequences

3
I am pleased to have been speaking with
@Sacha_Lord
& made aware of his NEW fight against the delayed opening of Hospitality.
A challenge will be made to allow us to open at the SAME TIME as Non-Essential retail

Sacha will be donating his court costs to charity

SUMMARY
3/3

Substantial meal rule will NEVER be brought back.

Any future restrictions MUST be evidence based,or get immediately challenged in the Courts.

April 12th “Outdoor only” restriction will NOW be challenged & determined by the Courts.

Curfew gone for good

439946 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to alw, 8, #289 of 1661 🔗

Does this include masks? It should be, but I’d wager it isn’t.

439948 ▶▶▶ Jinks, replying to Jinks, 9, #290 of 1661 🔗

Obviously, it’s otherwise great news, I hasten to add.

439963 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to alw, 4, #291 of 1661 🔗

Fantastic news.

440009 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to alw, 2, #292 of 1661 🔗

Brilliant news.

439942 TheClone, replying to TheClone, 11, #293 of 1661 🔗

Yearly vaxx, forever lockdown, vaxx passport and full control of population! This wet dream might become true in the coming 6-9 months! Brave New World! We only need to say thank you to SAGE and Bojoke! Welcome to Gulag Britain!

439952 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to TheClone, 7, #294 of 1661 🔗

Experimental-drugs apparently do not macht frei….

439949 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 6, #295 of 1661 🔗

The hunt is on to find the virus that looks Brazilian

439953 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to DanClarke, 5, #296 of 1661 🔗

bikini, tanned, nice buttocks?

439956 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to DanClarke, 20, #297 of 1661 🔗

Maybe we can hope Cressida Dick finds it. She’s good at hunting Brazilians

440111 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to mhcp, 5, #298 of 1661 🔗

That DISGUSTING WITCH needs to also be pursued at the next Nuremberg.

440746 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to mhcp, #299 of 1661 🔗

Don’t give her ideas, she’ll be blazing away in Battersea Park next.

440057 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to DanClarke, 4, #300 of 1661 🔗

I’ve got a Brazilian customer, perhaps it’s him 😉

440250 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to kh1485, 2, #301 of 1661 🔗

My wife had a Brazilian before this madness started, should I be worried?

440463 ▶▶ mj, replying to DanClarke, 1, #302 of 1661 🔗

Cressida Dickhead and the Met are very good at eliminating Brazilians. Should have it sorted by the end of the day
“oh i’m down in the tube station at midnight………….” (P. Weller)

439955 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 17, #303 of 1661 🔗

Funny how the Germans aren’t jabbing the over 65s. This is the target group for covid so clearly they believe the risks of the jab outweigh the benefits

440443 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to steve_w, 1, #304 of 1661 🔗

It’s also interesting that when the Germans were asked about this decision they made a point of saying that the ‘efficacy’ in that age group was doubtful. They daren’t say they have doubts about ‘safety’, which I am sure is the truth of the matter.

440744 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to steve_w, #305 of 1661 🔗

Mutti said “Nein!”.

441384 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to steve_w, #306 of 1661 🔗

Then why jab the rest?

439961 Friedrich Stapß, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 26, #307 of 1661 🔗

Embarrassing typo in a Telegraph headline today.

”More than 34,000 people with dementia have died from Covid, say campaigners”
They mean, of course, “More than 34,000 people with dementia have died from dementia, say campaigners”

439970 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 10, #308 of 1661 🔗

This is part of the data fraud. If you statistically analyse the past 5 years of death data, you notice that dementia goes down vs past years, the same if true of flu-resp and heart disease. If CV 19 is put on the MCCD as a contributor to death, they count it as CV……some money is also sent to the institution for CV related reporting.

440092 ▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to FerdIII, 3, #309 of 1661 🔗
439962 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 20, #310 of 1661 🔗

ATL, good to see Redwood ‘questioning’ the absurd data fraud. If you read through the sheeple’s comments, it is clear most of them accept the Covid-Party-Nomenclatura-Committee for Public Safety propaganda on numbers.

The data fraud is the core of this occupation-Government. This includes the fake models of that retard Ferguson and China-funded Imperious Collage.

https://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2021/02/28/deaths-with-and-from-cv-19/

It does not seem fair to the NHS to leave the world with the impression we had a higher death rate from this disease given the many queries of death attribution we are now seeing. As many of the people who were recorded as dying of CV 19 were over 80, they belong to the generation that is likely to have other medical conditions that could have been the cause of death.”

439966 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to FerdIII, 7, #311 of 1661 🔗

I wonder whether the government will find it in its own interest to downgrade the death scores in the future. They are exaggerating them now to make us comply with restrictions. They might be open to revising them down in future

439973 ▶▶▶ FerdIII, replying to steve_w, 4, #312 of 1661 🔗

Might be true. Depends on their plans. At this point it is unclear to me or most people what is really going on. I always felt that March 2021 was the key month. If the CV fascism persists beyond March 2021, than expect rolling LDs starting in Sept 2021 (variants, a new one every week etc). If the Sheeple pull their heads out of their asses and say no more, it might well end by late spring and we will return, with no experimental-drug ID, on a path to some sort of normalcy.

439980 ▶▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to FerdIII, 6, #313 of 1661 🔗

I have literally no idea what their ‘gameplan’ is. Declare success in Spring to a grateful public? Continuing lockdowns forever?

440640 ▶▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to steve_w, 1, #314 of 1661 🔗

Agenda 2021,2030. We can stop it, but the sooner we start, the easier it will be. Let’s not have to make a “last ditch stand”.

440127 ▶▶▶ eastender53, replying to steve_w, 4, #315 of 1661 🔗

If one accepts that since the first cock up in March last year Boris et al have been in a desperate fight to save their political skins and possibly personal liberty, then vaccines would have been their great hope. Now there is a significant pushback against these they have a stark choice. Permanent measures or Mea Culpa. I suspect they lack the courage for the latter.

440643 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to eastender53, 2, #316 of 1661 🔗

Boris threw his lot in with Gate$ who has, in turn, thrown billions into this dystopian exercise.

440736 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to eastender53, #317 of 1661 🔗

The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.

440928 ▶▶▶▶ Woden, replying to eastender53, #318 of 1661 🔗

Unless they bring in martial law.. hopefully a good summer should throw a spanner in the madness..

439975 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to FerdIII, 9, #319 of 1661 🔗

It would be a lot easier to find out who didnt have serious underlying conditions, its amazing they’ve got away with this for so long and Johnson not thinking this looks a bit iffy, when these scientists have vested interests and also touting for grants.

440173 ▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to DanClarke, 2, #320 of 1661 🔗

I’ve thought this for a long time. And I think it’d be a much better use of track and trace. Supposedly they employ 25k people and we’ve had 100k dead – so each employee only had to spend a few hours tracking down the families/doctors of four people and then record the accurate circumstances of their death and we’d easily have a clear picture of the true scale of the “pandemic”.

440161 ▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to FerdIII, 6, #321 of 1661 🔗

It does seem to be a weird British (English?) trait that we like to boast to the world about how rubbish we are.
Russia: no deaths here. Literally everyone is still alive.
China: nope none here either. We’ve even managed to bring back the dead.
Wales and Scotland: we’re not sure but we definitely have fewer deaths than England.
UK: We’ve got 1000000000000 dead, more cases that our population and we’ve spent so much that our money is now worthless 😃 👍

440741 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 1, #322 of 1661 🔗

“It’s being so cheerful as keeps me going”

Mona Lott, ITMA

439967 marebobowl, 12, #323 of 1661 🔗

Kristi Noem and Gov. DeSantis (Florida) would make a great ticket in 2024. Kristi’s recent speech should have been lead article today in “lockdown sceptics”. There is the proof between South Dakota and Florida that lockdowns do not work. Thanks for including her speech.

439968 Friedrich Stapß, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 16, #324 of 1661 🔗

Outraged convict fights to clear his name.

440023 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 2, #325 of 1661 🔗

Brilliant!

Have they ‘fiddled’ with that picture? He does look like Handjob. He looks a lot like Handjob.

440041 ▶▶ jos, replying to Friedrich Stapß, #326 of 1661 🔗

How could anyone believe that story? What actually was the crime and who would be bringing an action against him – the dogs?

440081 ▶▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to jos, 2, #327 of 1661 🔗

It’s in the Sunday Sport. Who cares if it’s true or not? It hits the spot as satire.

440723 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Friedrich Stapß, #328 of 1661 🔗

They all moved away from me on the bench there, giving me the hairy eyeball until I said “And creating a nuisance.” Then they all moved back and we had a great time talking about mother raping, father stabbing, father raping …

439971 Basileus, replying to Basileus, 21, #329 of 1661 🔗

Latest from Daily Expose

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/02/17/investigation-nhs-data-shows-only-3000-people-have-died-of-covid-19/

110K Deaths? NHS Data shows only 3000 people have died of COVID-19
The data shows that of the 71,138 deaths that occurred in hospitals in people who received a positive test for SARS-CoV 2 and who had pre-existing conditions, 12,027 of these had chronic kidney disease. That’s makes up over 10% of the 100,000 deaths that have been used to justify the dictatorial tyranny of the past year.
It also shows that 11,559 of the 71,138 deaths were due to chronic pulmonary disease. 11,935 had dementia, and over 7000 had heart disease.

439977 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Basileus, 11, #330 of 1661 🔗

Quite right, good post. Max dead from CV 19 is 30K, absolute tops, if you analyse the data over the past 5 years. In a country of 70 mn, with respect to the dead, it is a rounding error.

Flu renamed to Covid.

Any attribution of CV to the MCCD = Covid (dementia, heart disease).

The core of the problem was the March 2020, changing of the MCCD process.

Pre Covid you needed 2 doctors, and medical proof of what caused death. Now you don’t. You don’t need medical proof and no doctor needs to see you before you die (one week) and only one doctor needs to fill out the MCCD. No checks. It is unclear though likely, that hospitals-health care homes received money for every Covid dead or injured, or mention. This is also distortive.

440164 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to FerdIII, #331 of 1661 🔗

30k is my guess too (and that spread over two flu seasons). I wonder if we can get odds on this?

439976 Friedrich Stapß, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 18, #332 of 1661 🔗

When all the hysteria and lies about the Brazilian variant have died down, will we finally see the bald truth?

440010 ▶▶ norwegian, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 5, #333 of 1661 🔗

No, we will be fed news about the Australian variant.

439978 TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to TheOriginalBlackPudding, 9, #334 of 1661 🔗

To all in Stalag-Dungford, and to those whose roots lie in Wales:

Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Hapus

440694 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to TheOriginalBlackPudding, #335 of 1661 🔗

Diolch yn fawr, TOBP !

439988 peyrole, 31, #336 of 1661 🔗

At Last! The ATL reference to a peer-reviewed study in a medical journal “ Outcome Reporting Bias in COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Clinical Trials ” clearly reports the ABSOLUTE efficacy of the Pfiezer and Moderna so-called vaccines from the emergency use trials.
0.7-1.1%, and this is for reduction of one symptom, nothing to do with immunity, death, hospitalisation etc. 100 people have to be injected for ONE person to have a reduction of risk from a symptom.

It is time for legal views on this.

439989 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 15, #337 of 1661 🔗

A friend has had her Covid19 jab she announced, plus she had flu and pneumonia jabs before christmas, fully covered now, just waiting for the 2nd Covid one now. I’m now wondering if she’s an vax addict

439995 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to DanClarke, 5, #338 of 1661 🔗

Especially if she had to have booster shots for the rest of her life.

440004 ▶▶ Dan L, replying to DanClarke, 2, #339 of 1661 🔗

A lot of people like to collect things as a hobby.

Perhaps this is partly what the vaccine passport is about. Gotta collect all the vaccinations.

440058 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Dan L, 13, #340 of 1661 🔗

Gotta collect all the vaccinations.

Poke-a-man?

440129 ▶▶▶▶ Ed Phillips, replying to Ceriain, 2, #341 of 1661 🔗

Very good!

440452 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to DanClarke, 1, #342 of 1661 🔗

She’s making sure that ticking time bomb inside her is well loaded with dynamite.

440712 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to DanClarke, #343 of 1661 🔗

I had the pneumonia one in August 2019 after research that I felt showed it was effective, one-off and the result of a proper programme of development and testing. The decision was also informed by family history of related illnesses. I’ve said no to flu and covid jabs. No pestering so far. I’ve had my full share of vaccinations for proper diseases starting with polio in 1958.

439994 Bart Simpson, replying to Bart Simpson, 41, #344 of 1661 🔗

Went to Clapham Common yesterday and it was busy – many out and about, children enjoying the play area, very little masks, no social distancing.

Same also with St James’ Park and Green Park. No police crawling around.

I think the sham is slowly falling apart.

Also funny how Buckingham Palace has not highlighted the Queen’s and the Cambridges’ intervention on their social media accounts. Safe to say that they’ve realised that it has gone down like a lead balloon and that they were thrown by the government under the bus for it.

440028 ▶▶ iane, replying to Bart Simpson, 22, #345 of 1661 🔗

Yes – I was VERY surprised that her advisors did not stop her extremely divisive intervention!

440044 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to iane, 10, #346 of 1661 🔗

I was discussing this with a close friend. Trouble is the Queen couldn’t exactly say no. Witness the number of heads of state that she has had to entertain and you can bet that some of them were unwilling.

A wise courtier would have considered what to have Her Majesty say with caution. They wouldn’t have let her say “selfish” for one, they could have just let her say “I’ve not had any problems so far with the vaccine” and leave it at that.

440039 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Bart Simpson, 25, #347 of 1661 🔗

Lost all my respect for the Queen. How dare she get involved?

The Cambridge’s are patrons of the MIND charity (Mental Health) – they are now contributing to discrimination against people with mental health issues that will be coerced into getting the vaccine.

440050 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Victoria, 11, #348 of 1661 🔗

And they set up the “Heads Together” initiative to encourage people to not suffer in silence or to seek help.

As I’ve said before all the trumpeting about “improved” attitudes towards mental health and disabilities” were only skin deep. Scratch the surface and the vile attitudes remain.

440144 ▶▶▶ JanMasarykMunich, replying to Victoria, 2, #349 of 1661 🔗

Yes, they should be called out over this, and asked to resign.

440581 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to Victoria, 2, #350 of 1661 🔗

The monarchy is just an adornment, like Big Ben or Nelson’s column.

440052 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Bart Simpson, 16, #351 of 1661 🔗

It certainly did go down like a lead balloon; I was astonished at how quickly the Beeb, and the MSM, made it ‘disappear’ from their web pages.

440063 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Ceriain, 14, #352 of 1661 🔗

Agree and the lack of highlight on social media was a dead giveaway. They would always feature the Queen’s engagements but this one wasn’t. I get the feeling that the courtiers were made aware of the critical comments on the papers, YouTube (the comments on Carl Vernon’s video on it was particularly scathing), Twitter, et al. And the vast majority of the critical comments were from those who respected Her Majesty.

The damage has been done and they will have to work over time to repair it.

440304 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Ceriain, 2, #353 of 1661 🔗

Wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t actually know, the government have released so many lies, just using the royal family was another one. Their thinking is using Gustav in Sweden seems to have made Sweden slightly more toe the line, let’s do the same here.

440440 ▶▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #354 of 1661 🔗

The general consensus does seem to be that the government is getting so desperatre about the low take up of the vaccine and in the wake of the scandal of the reporting of deaths that they have had to resort to wheel out the royals to scare people again.

440262 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Bart Simpson, 7, #355 of 1661 🔗

Took the motorbike out to Maldon, lovely day, full car park to be greeted with a huge led sign. If you do not live in Maldon go home!! So welcoming. Er no, I go where I like, thanks. I don’t think they understand the rules!

440297 ▶▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Spikedee1, #356 of 1661 🔗

Exactly. And if they want to adapt that attitude and their whole town goes bust, they should not be allowed to ask the Treasury for a bailout. If I was Sunak I would tell them to go take a hike.

439998 Hoppy Uniatz, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 10, #357 of 1661 🔗

One for Swedenborg .

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.24.21251664v1

Link is to a study entitled “Obesity may hamper SARS-CoV-2 vaccine immunogenicity” which suggests that fat people might need an extra vaccine dose. I found it on the Reddit Covid-19 thread. The comments are meant to be serious on this thread, but it’s hard not to chuckle at medics wondering earnestly, “could needle length be a factor.”

440134 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 3, #358 of 1661 🔗

Is Swedenborg struggling with his weight or what? 😏

440233 ▶▶▶ Hoppy Uniatz, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 2, #359 of 1661 🔗

No, apologies to Swedenborg if that’s how it came out, only he’s usually the one that posts these clinical links

440279 ▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 2, #360 of 1661 🔗

OMG do they think fat peoples veins are under a layer of fat?? Hahahahaha. The reason the chunky monkeys are at more risk is because covid is a respiratory disease and that’s one of the problems with carrying too much blubber. Walk behind a big boned person and listen to them breathing!

440000 Andrew K, replying to Andrew K, 6, #361 of 1661 🔗

Had a nightmare last night it was so vivid that I think I really do need to take a break from all this stuff. Well basically it goes like this.

We are under attack from aliens but aliens on this planet have lost contact with their mother planet. They only way they can communicate is to plant transmitters in 3 billion people so as to create a strong enough signal to home. The only way to plant these transmitters is through the vaccine program. Anyway about as plausible as a SAGE model.

Boy I need to get out more!!! 🙁

440002 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Andrew K, #362 of 1661 🔗

would make a nice short story

440031 ▶▶ jos, replying to Andrew K, #363 of 1661 🔗

There are no aliens – the earth is flat and the planets are holograms.

440075 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to Andrew K, #364 of 1661 🔗

Replace aliens with demons, and transmitters with possession, that’s my recurring dream.

440078 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Andrew K, #365 of 1661 🔗

I see a movie

440094 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Andrew K, 6, #366 of 1661 🔗

I’m a bit luckier; my vivid dreams involve the lovely Kristi Noem.

Seriously though; her speech at CPAC is absolutely terrific.

440136 ▶▶▶ maggie may, replying to Ceriain, 9, #367 of 1661 🔗

I wonder what the odds are on her becoming next President, might be worth a small punt? i read somewhere Republicans seem to think Trump will be their only choice next time around, i think she has a much better chance.

440188 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to Ceriain, 1, #368 of 1661 🔗

My kinda gal.

440321 ▶▶▶ Fiona Walker, replying to Ceriain, 2, #369 of 1661 🔗

I’m very jealous of her toned shoulders!

440684 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Andrew K, #370 of 1661 🔗

What makes you think you were dreaming Andrew ? Are you positive ? 🙂

440688 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Andrew K, #371 of 1661 🔗

I’ve always suspected that spreadsheets are, in fact, a colonizing alien race

440008 yohodi, replying to yohodi, 12, #372 of 1661 🔗

One standout symptom of the new Brazilian variant is that pubic hair is groomed, as if by magic, and removed from the front of the pubic bone, around the external genitals, between the upper thighs, and around the anus… That’ll strike fear, and terror amongst the unsuspecting uninformed…

440040 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to yohodi, 1, #373 of 1661 🔗

Thanks; that’ll make the individual easier to spot. 😉

440110 ▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Ceriain, 5, #374 of 1661 🔗

Certainly makes testing quicker and a lot more interesting for the testers. No fannying around swabs any more.

440681 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Richy_m_99, #375 of 1661 🔗

My mind says ‘ … swabbing around fannies …’ but I’m too busy to put it together in a witty fashion.

440011 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 10, #376 of 1661 🔗

“A record 621 people died of drug overdoses in San Francisco so far this year, a staggering number that far outpaces the 173 deaths from COVID-19 the city has seen thus far”

Replicated around the world I am sure

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1366302903707840515

440070 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Victoria, 3, #377 of 1661 🔗

That doesn’t surprise me. Even during the first lockdown it was already being highligted that substance abuse was on the increase especially with the enforced working from home.

440014 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 5, #378 of 1661 🔗

Fatalistic approach.

Hitchens has lost the plot . Think he needs some happy pills

With poll numbers like these, how can sceptics not recognise that we have lost the battle for hearts and minds in the U.K.?

https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1366013157299408898

440036 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Victoria, 11, #379 of 1661 🔗

Since when did Hitchens start believing the poll numbers?

440069 ▶▶ Morse, replying to Victoria, 15, #380 of 1661 🔗

He sold out and defected, fuck him, forget him, let’s move on. This is going to happen, anyone can be “bought”. Let’s stick together and keep fighting.

440937 ▶▶▶ Woden, replying to Morse, 1, #381 of 1661 🔗

He is ,quite frankly boring…

440085 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Victoria, 5, #382 of 1661 🔗

Don’t believe this at all, polls are not worth anything now, not sure they ever were

440124 ▶▶▶ Ed Phillips, replying to DanClarke, 10, #383 of 1661 🔗

Which is one of Hitchens political maxims: Opinion polls form opinion not reflect opinion.

So to quote a poll is very weird.

440646 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Ed Phillips, 3, #384 of 1661 🔗

Might be his way of telling us he’s been ‘got at’ …

440158 ▶▶ Puddleglum, replying to Victoria, 1, #385 of 1661 🔗

Convenient nice round numbers there. Never trust a poll where 76.4% of people agree with one thing and 17.2% haven’t a clue what you are on about.

440197 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Victoria, 2, #386 of 1661 🔗

I oft wonder what better Hitchens would have made of the current nonsense

440293 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to Crystal Decanter, 1, #387 of 1661 🔗

There is no way he would have given in. And he would have slaughtered the government.

440016 isobar, replying to isobar, 16, #388 of 1661 🔗



Just to emphasise the fact, the Johnson and Johnson ‘vaccine’ highlighted ATL is again gene therapy, and uses a similar genetic (DNA) insertion platform to the Oxford/AstraZeneca ‘vaccine’ to instruct cells to generate the spike protein of the virus.
https://theconversation.com/how-does-the-johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-compare-to-other-coronavirus-vaccines-4-questions-answered-155944

440046 ▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to isobar, 2, #389 of 1661 🔗

Thank you.

440017 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 34, #390 of 1661 🔗

So, the TwatAdvisor bullying continues. Pretty sure today’s snark-fest is the bloke who, after spending five minutes in the shop on Friday, decided he was going to lay into us for not wearing masks. As I pointed out to him at the time, if he was so terrified a) why was he out and b) why did he come in. A robust response will be forthcoming.

440032 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to kh1485, 4, #391 of 1661 🔗

Does he also discriminate against blacks and gays?

440095 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to kh1485, 4, #392 of 1661 🔗

Why did he come in, its an excuse to start something with a lot of people, agitators

440299 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to DanClarke, 4, #393 of 1661 🔗

Five minutes of fame. Trip advisor the land of stupidity where the curtain twitchers go to have absolute power.

440019 Smelly Melly, replying to Smelly Melly, 48, #394 of 1661 🔗

Just had an argument with my GP (over the phone) about not having the “jab”. I’m still not having it, she came up with the usual stuff (protecting others as well as myself, ie selfishness etc), I said no it’s not a vaccine and doesn’t allow me to do anything I want to do, like travel, cinema, meet up, antisocial distance, wear masks (I don’t) etc so what’s the point in having it.

I asked her what the IFR was, she didn’t know and said I should find out, I said I already knew. That’s when the call ended.

440024 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Smelly Melly, 30, #395 of 1661 🔗

That’s awful.

I’m getting really pissed off with this ‘selfish’ tag. Alright NHS, why not tell all those who stuff their faces with crap food not to do so because they are selfish and leach resources from your sainted institution.

440179 ▶▶▶ Dave Angel Eco Warrier, replying to kh1485, 10, #396 of 1661 🔗

This has been the modus operandi throught the ‘pandemic’. It is appalling but unfortunately it has worked to perfection for governments worldwide.

440025 ▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Smelly Melly, 17, #397 of 1661 🔗

Was this part of a wider conversation? GPs have ben largely absent from view these past twelve months. Are they now that desperate to get people to take the shot?

440059 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Londo Mollari, 10, #398 of 1661 🔗

Just a bunch of money gjrubbing fiends. But people ‘trust ‘ their doctor.

I see them as plumbers or any other service. But less trustworthy.

440082 ▶▶▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to FedupofLies, 14, #399 of 1661 🔗

Yes I understand GPs surgeries are businesses, they get more money if they carry out certain procedures so re keen to get you to comply. Also because Doctors think and are treated as demi gods they are infallible and the solution is medication, when sometimes it isn’t. (They also toe the political line when it comes to C19).

440278 ▶▶▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Smelly Melly, #400 of 1661 🔗

Nothing wrong with them being a business but people need to treat them as such. Shop around with them.

Not that that excuses participation in mass experimentation and bioterror against a nation in endorsing social distancing and masks wearing.

440068 ▶▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to Londo Mollari, 13, #401 of 1661 🔗

No, initially the call was about my type 2 diabetes and she wants me to go on medication. I realise I’m overweight and finally after many years of abusing my body I’m on a low carb diet (actually it was listening to an Ivor Cummings podcast about low carb diets that swung it for me). The bulk of the conversation was on not having the “vaccine”.

440135 ▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Smelly Melly, 16, #402 of 1661 🔗

I gave a friend my copy of Ivor Cummins and Dr Jeffry Gerber’s book Eat Rich Live Long. He had been diagnosed as pre-diabetic and I had been explaining the benefits of a low carb healthy fat real food diet but needed to provide him some solid information to back up what I was saying.

He read it and realised that it made complete sense. He went low carb real food and his blood sugar level is now under control, and he’s back to the weight he was in his twenties.

Dr David Unwin and the Norwood Surgery in Southport have offered and supported type 2 diabetic patients with their low carb program with enormous success in putting diabetes into remission. Dr Unwin said he only realised where he was going wrong with type 2 diabetes patients when a patient came in and explained it to him. Perhaps your doctor needs to start listening a bit more.

Improving metabolic health (along with vitamin D) will be a better way to protect against any covid risk than any vaccine.

Incidentally I set out in detail why not having the experimental jab is not selfish in this post.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/02/27/latest-news-298/#comment-437270

440148 ▶▶▶▶▶ Puddleglum, replying to Freecumbria, 5, #403 of 1661 🔗

People may well find themselves glad of having a few unvaccinated people amongst them in the future.

440156 ▶▶▶▶▶ AshesThanDust, replying to Freecumbria, 2, #404 of 1661 🔗

Thanks so much for that.

440311 ▶▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Freecumbria, 6, #405 of 1661 🔗

I find is astonishing the NHS/GP’s still push low fat diets, rather than low carb, high fat for type 2 diabetes. The diets actually cause more type 2 as many low fat foods are full of sugar and artificial sweeteners. Not a surprise to me the increase in type 2 cases since the concept of low fat foods and artificial sweeteners.

My mum was told she was pre type 2 an given all the low fat info, thankfully didn’t take any notice of it and changed to a lower carb diet. No more pre type 2.

440847 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Cumbriacracked, #406 of 1661 🔗

Totally agree.

It’s hard to explain how most doctors miss the basic point that diabetes and pre-diabetes, which are effectively an intolerance of carbohydrates, are not best addressed through eating carbohydrates (e,g. low fat foods with high sugar replacement and wholegrains).

So many people have done the n=1 experiment of eating low carb themselves and realise it works and it is sustainable.

440257 ▶▶▶▶ Ozzie, replying to Smelly Melly, 2, #407 of 1661 🔗

Also have a look at the work by Dr Jason Fung – Ivor Cummins has a video by him on his website.

440839 ▶▶▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Ozzie, #408 of 1661 🔗

Good suggestion. The Obesity Code is a good book

This is a brilliant pre-pandemic video on Financial Conflicts of Interests and the End of Evidence-Based Medicine which explains a lot of what is happening at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IO2DZjOkY

440834 ▶▶▶▶ Edmund Mortimer, replying to Smelly Melly, #409 of 1661 🔗

The low carb diet certainly worked for me. I know I’ve mentioned this before, so forgive me, but my son was rather fat and lost 5 stone on a low-carb diet (and he has kept his weight down and is now a keen runner) and so my wife and I gave it a try and it worked for us too.

441193 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Smelly Melly, #410 of 1661 🔗

Quotas again.

441187 ▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Londo Mollari, 1, #411 of 1661 🔗

Yes, where have the GP\s been all this time? Resetting their agenda?

440099 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Smelly Melly, 20, #412 of 1661 🔗

This smacks of “pot, kettle, black”

I’m fed up with the overuse of the word “selfish.” From the government, even the Queen down to the zombies; who decides what is selfish or not? I can easily turn their accusations on them.

Annd its rich of the GP to bandy that as an accusation. What about them being shut for the best part of the year and people being unable to access their services? Isn’t that being selfish too?

440155 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Smelly Melly, 5, #413 of 1661 🔗

Good call on the IFR line. I also find the mention of relative vs absolute risk reduction is a good one. See the medical paper listed in the round up today on that.

Also, while NICE usually put a cap of 40k per Qaly saved on a drug, I believe its closer to £300,000 for the vaccines. So it’s totally disproportionate to everything that has gone before.

440162 ▶▶ Dave Angel Eco Warrier, replying to Smelly Melly, 13, #414 of 1661 🔗

I have had several text messages from my surgery over the past year that have essentially ordered me not to bother them as they are too busy. It now seems they are not too busy that they have the time to badger folk into having the vaccine.

440599 ▶▶ stewart, replying to Smelly Melly, 2, #415 of 1661 🔗

Should have asked her if she gets an additional financially incentive from the government to administer jabs.

440683 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Smelly Melly, #416 of 1661 🔗

The rule when conversing with lunatics is minimal engagement. Just a polite “No thank you” and then silence.

440946 ▶▶ Woden, replying to Smelly Melly, #417 of 1661 🔗

Can you not put in an official complaint about this, how dare she!

440020 Bruce Reynolds, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 42, #418 of 1661 🔗

Let’s face it the shit show is falling apart, hundreds of people about yesterday didn’t give a fuck, pigs in retreat not willing to enforce the so called law daft fuckers are on the run.. this new veriant shit is going down like a lead Bloon, desperation over the snake oil, the race is run,lighter night’s warmer weather a pissed of public job done.. let the trials begin..

440056 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 23, #419 of 1661 🔗

It is time to drive forward if the enemy appears to be in rout: 20th March Protest London

440150 ▶▶ Dave Angel Eco Warrier, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 5, #420 of 1661 🔗

I’d like to share your optimism but we’ve been here before. Yes, it is heartening to see people out and about but it has proved to be something of false dawn before.

440021 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 6, #421 of 1661 🔗

When I hear the phrase “single shot” vaccine, an image from the 1968 Tet Offensive comes into my mind. The one of a US soldier executing a North Vietnamese soldier by a bullet to the back of the head.

440122 ▶▶ mj, replying to Londo Mollari, 2, #422 of 1661 🔗

which image is that? if it is the well known one that i am thinking of, this is the execution of a vietcong officer (who had allegedly just cut the throats of a south vietnamese officer and his 6 children), and was carried out by South Vietnamese officer.
Not a US soldier.
Full details here

440668 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to mj, #423 of 1661 🔗

That’s interesting, I’ve seen the photo before but I wasn’t aware of the details. I assume the Wikipedia item is reliable.

Having said that, I agree with those who say Wikipedia has a leftist bias (“liberal” in US terminology). Yesterday I happened to look at their item on Frank Richards, nom-de-plume of the author of the Billy Bunter stories. It mentioned that some people had called him “right-wing”, but various aspects of the stories suggested otherwise. The unspoken assumption was that “right-wing” was a bad thing to be. I think it’s unlikely that they would show a similar attitude to the term “left-wing”.

440022 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 16, #424 of 1661 🔗

This vile excuse for a human being should not be allowed anywhere near a school or indeed children

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1366110618445578248

440051 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Victoria, 16, #425 of 1661 🔗

ALL leaders of the teachers unions need to be put ON TRIAL after this for their FILTHY and ABUSIVE role in the PlanScamdemic!

They must either receive DECADES in prison or the Death Penalty!

440072 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Victoria, 24, #426 of 1661 🔗

Any teacher who claims to be terrified of going back to work should be similarly terrified of going out to shop or to have a coffee. But, oddly, they’re not …

440105 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to kh1485, 19, #427 of 1661 🔗

Let’s see how terrified they are when they stop being paid.

440131 ▶▶▶ Bruce Reynolds, replying to kh1485, 15, #428 of 1661 🔗

Yes KH oddly there not, now take away the fact they receive full pay and you would see the bastards running to the school.. Simple answer here NO WORK No PAY..

440244 ▶▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Bruce Reynolds, 15, #429 of 1661 🔗

Exactly. I posted about one on Saturday. She was actually arse-aching about having to go to work before the Easter holidays She thought it was appalling. We suggested that, bearing in mind how much schooling kids had missed out on, that she should perhaps work through the holidays. That did not go down well!

440102 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Victoria, 5, #430 of 1661 🔗

Should be handed his P45 and never again be allowed to work as a teacher.

440324 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Bart Simpson, 5, #431 of 1661 🔗

Apologies in advance to any teachers who do not go along with all of this crap and actually want to teach children normally, the teachers should be treated as Reagan did tot he air traffic controllers, sack them all and employ people who actually want to do the job. Teaching to me is like many parts of the NHS it has a large element of vocation, it is not just a job, people actually want to educate children.

440138 ▶▶ Dave Angel Eco Warrier, replying to Victoria, 7, #432 of 1661 🔗

The photo of the masked kids sends shivers down my spine. That people cannot see how wrong this is is totally depressing.

440185 ▶▶ mj, replying to Victoria, 10, #433 of 1661 🔗

This guy is a hard left/militant activist (and before Rick H gets on to his hobby horse that is how the TES describes him ) who is running for election to an NUT position.
Has his own blog where he keeps posting extremely dodgy data and Sage comments to justify his “its not safe” position
One can deduce that the kids’ education is the last thing on his mind.

440034 James Leary #KBF, replying to James Leary #KBF, 29, #434 of 1661 🔗

‘Trust Me, I’m a Doctor‘

There’s an implication in today’s edition that hitherto Doctors have been nothing but saintly. Well, ‘the day that war broke out’, my GP took his ethics down to the deepest air-raid shelter he could find, and is still down there oblivious to the bodies of his former patients ‘littering the streets’ (Guardian) above.

Doctors have over the years shoved pills and stuck needles into their patients willy-nilly in return for a free pen and two nights in a Bournemouth hotel for a ‘conference’ thrown by a random pharma company. So please, let’s have no more swooning over this test of medial efficks. Most Doctors can’t spell ‘efficks’.

440049 ▶▶ isobar, replying to James Leary #KBF, 15, #435 of 1661 🔗

I can’t help wondering if the overinflated number of deaths ascribed to Covid-19 is a cover up for failures in GP care. Doctors do tend to stick together.

440101 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to isobar, 6, #436 of 1661 🔗

If you were being paid for every Covid diagnosis what would you expect to happen?

440060 ▶▶ Jinks, replying to James Leary #KBF, 9, #437 of 1661 🔗

Agree with everything you state. Being acquainted with someone registered with mental health services, at one stage, regardless of the diagnosis, all the outpatients were being prescribed various doses of Quetiapine, all at the same time. Coincidence? Wonderdrug? I don’t cocoa.

440038 Percy Openshaw, replying to Percy Openshaw, 25, #438 of 1661 🔗

This whole wretched business is getting increasingly absurd. The obvious point against Lockdown as a response to a disease like this is that, being a virus, it will mutate and – according to the crazed “logic” of Ferguson et al – we’ll be confined and suppressed all over again. It’s happening now – Brazilian variants, South African variants, not to mention the original Chinese variant which we’re not supposed to acknowledge.

The second most obvious point is that having exhausted our morale and our resources on fighting a pipsqueak malady of the flu / cold type, should some really devastating infection come along, people may well refuse to fight it. They will, rightly, suspect that the government has over-reacted, played on their patriotic feeling and bullied them relentlessly the once, so they won’t let it happen again. Then they’ll keel over in the street and – yes – that would be our horrible government’s fault.

Finally, whether or not we’re looking at some Davos backed “reset” or a cock-up among western politicos, it is time for those statesmen who object to what’s going on to stand up and be counted, even if it means a new party. Personally, I incline to the view that incompetence is behind all this, but that the government is becoming increasingly malign and sinister in its attempts to mask that incompetence. As and when the proverbial hits the fan, our appalling, amateurish, self-centred creep of a PM is going to be covered from head to toe in ordure.

440412 ▶▶ Steve F, replying to Percy Openshaw, 7, #439 of 1661 🔗

There’s also the point that the entire western world has now blown all its resources on coping with an overblown flu bug so, if a really devastating virus were to leak out of a Chinese lab within the next few years, there would be total economic collapse. I can’t help thinking that this might have occurred to the CCP.

440089 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Victoria, 4, #441 of 1661 🔗

They should never have taken the jab! It was irresponsible!

440113 ▶▶ maggie may, replying to Victoria, 3, #442 of 1661 🔗

So they weren’t told that they shouldn’t have the jab if they were pregnant (I’m sure it said that in the leaflet that i was sent with my ‘invitation’ for a ‘vaccine’, binned) or perhaps they didn’t know they were pregnant??

440200 ▶▶▶ SweetBabyCheeses, replying to maggie may, #443 of 1661 🔗

Around 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage anyway so this is a pointless stat without the actual data.

Either way, it’s likely they had underlying health conditions that were severe enough that they would be at significant risk if they caught covid – presumably many of them did since they’d all be under the age of 50ish, otherwise they wouldn’t have been offered the vaccine yet (unless they work in healthcare).

It is not a new balance of risks for doctors and mothers to have to weigh up – keep taking medication for a relatively severe existing condition vs the known and unknown potential risks that may be posed to unborn baby. We need to respect others right to make their own choices if we want them to respect ours.

440275 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to SweetBabyCheeses, 6, #444 of 1661 🔗

There is zero investigation into these events. So the lack of actual data also throws it open to speculation, whether you lean towards the vaccines or not. 11 reported miscarriages needs to looked into to ensure safety is assured. It’s not happening and if it is, we are not privy to it.

440167 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Victoria, 5, #445 of 1661 🔗

“England’s deputy chief medical officer has given short shrift to anyone not taking a vaccine because of bogus claims about fertility – branding them ‘nonsense’.

Prof Van-Tam said that it was very important women who are at risk of serious illness with Covid due to underlying health conditions talk to their doctor because they ‘might die’.

He said: “When we say ‘for the time being’ we advise the vaccine in pregnant women who are really at very severe risk of Covid 19 we are saying not that we believe it is unsafe in the wider population of pregnant women but we don’t yet have that extensive data.”

Can he be personally sued?

440624 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to LMS2, #446 of 1661 🔗

Who is at very severe risk of covid 19? Someone who is very old or very sick?

So.. someone who is at risk of everything.

440217 ▶▶ iane, replying to Victoria, 1, #447 of 1661 🔗

It would be very interesting to turn actuaries loose on this and post-jab deaths! Are the numbers just coincidental or are they statistically damning: one is suspicious but would love to see this examined forensically!

440054 CivilianNotCovidian, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 21, #448 of 1661 🔗

Is the ATL a joke?! Who is Conor Chaplin and can someone please explain to him that he is not a Guardian headline writer. How can we have such an uneducated editor in our midsts?! Mutant strains evolve INDEPENDENTLY and are not “carried” over borders!! They are named after the place they were first sequenced, not where they first EVOLVED! It would be impossible to know where any virus FIRST EVOLVED! Which is why they’ve “discovered” evidence of “SARS-CoV-2” in Europe going back to 2018. I’m not sure this site is being run by the right people anymore.

440062 ▶▶ Bungle, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 2, #449 of 1661 🔗

I’m with you bro!

440269 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Bungle, #450 of 1661 🔗

It’s been poor on many days. As the window has moved onto vaccines, they’ve lost step.

440061 Victoria, 7, #451 of 1661 🔗

Law-or-Fiction

Teachers must not be afraid to speak up! They cannot be threatened: they will be protected as whistleblower legislation (the Employment Rights Act 1996 ss43A-C, 47B, and also 44(c) if representatives are not speaking up for them). Stand alone or better together, but end silence.

https://twitter.com/laworfiction/status/1365978739172126722

To concerns about not wishing to be confrontational :

since when was doing something that may harm your child not confrontational?

 If a nice chat will do the job, fine, but most heads will follow govt guidance ignorant of the law. The letter helps them understand and make a choice

https://twitter.com/laworfiction/status/1365585927825989633

https://laworfiction.com/2021/02/stopping-masks-and-face-covering-in-schools/ – download letter to school

440065 l835, replying to l835, 17, #452 of 1661 🔗

As predicted by someone the other day, the sunny weather and blue sky heralds the arrival of the latest more deadly variant. As Hans Gruber from ‘Die Hard’ might say to Boris, “ You asked for a miracle, I give you the Brazilian variant”!

440079 ▶▶ Mike, replying to l835, 14, #453 of 1661 🔗

Yep, but on the plus side I’ve had a number of people say ‘don’t you think thats just a little to convenient’. Maybe people are starting to realise they have been conned?? At least some people…not all.

440114 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Mike, 13, #454 of 1661 🔗

I think that you are right, certainly going by what DM readers think about the new variant. Note also the use of the word ‘farcical’ in the byline. A month ago it would have been ‘urgent’

‘Hunt for MISSING UK patient with Brazilian Covid strain: Farcical search for traveller with ‘more resistant’ mutant variant who didn’t fill out form as five more cases are found – but scientists say vaccines WILL likely still work’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9309649/First-case-Manaus-variant-Covid-Brazil-UK.html

Top rated readers comment:

‘No one caressssssss give us our lives back’

5797 upticks 1025 downticks

440336 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to isobar, 1, #455 of 1661 🔗

You see I think the governments words of “hunting” and “did not complete the form” are actually more nudges to “if he had a vaccine and carried a vaccine passport” none of this would have happened.

440157 ▶▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Mike, 6, #456 of 1661 🔗

They pulled the trick already, so people are primed for it now. I was surprised how many they took in with it before though.

440066 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 10, #457 of 1661 🔗

A Canadian pastor is being detained in a maximum security prison in Canada for refusing to comply with the Covid requirements. By some accounts he is being held in solitary confinement and it sounds very much like the punishment being meted out to Julian Assange. If you know of any (alleged) Christians who still have their churches shut, then try to show them this article. A condition of him being granted bail is that he agree to not allow church services. https://welovetrump.com/2021/02/27/canadian-pastor-is-put-in-maximum-security-prison-for-covid-violations/

440120 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Londo Mollari, 6, #458 of 1661 🔗

And that is not in any way terrifying, in a Progressive Communist tyrannical government coming to a country near you kind of way.

That’s life under Justin Trudeau. You get what you vote for.
Canada has gone full-on tyranny.

440214 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to LMS2, 4, #459 of 1661 🔗

But attendance at that church has gone up even without the pastor. Maybe unTrudeau thinks he is Diocletian.

440223 ▶▶ Hoppy Uniatz, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #460 of 1661 🔗

Dude was mentioned in prayers at our church yesterday, before we belted out the final hymn.

440083 Bungle, replying to Bungle, 7, #461 of 1661 🔗

Official website: “Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination. However, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.” How come they didn’t earlier say “does not suggest Covid 19 played a role in the death”???

440142 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Bungle, 9, #462 of 1661 🔗

They’re very quick to blame every death on CV19, but try to deny any link between death or other adverse effects on the vaccine.
Nothing new there.
Article from 2019, pre Covid:

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2019/07/29/a-second-look-at-vaccination-answers-that-cannot-be-questioned/

“it seems that we are trapped within a paradigm where it is impossible to suggest that any vaccine, for any disease, may be associated with/cause any degree of harm. In such an environment, objective scientific research becomes impossible. ‘As vaccine can harm no-one, we cannot try to find out who may be harmed. Thank you, comrade.’

As you can probably tell, I find this all very worrying and deeply, deeply, disturbing. If science has any purpose it is to seek the truth – however much that upsets the current status quo…….I see, what I believe to be important and valid questioning being crushed….”

440228 ▶▶ iane, replying to Bungle, #463 of 1661 🔗

Quite so – but we need actuarial analysis!

440339 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Bungle, #464 of 1661 🔗

So if the vaccine is use is decreased so will the fatal events, but still the two are not connected!

440086 JME, replying to JME, 30, #465 of 1661 🔗

Was having a chat with our daughter. (who is quite a “home bird”) & her boyfriend (mid-20s) over the weekend. She is a biochemist, he’s an engineer. Both said that if we don’t get back to normal they will look to leave the UK ( for ? Florida). Admittedly they’re both sceptics, but if this is how a number of our younger generation are thinking we’re possibly in for a “brain drain”. Not sure this would be too good for getting the country “back on track”.

440106 ▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to JME, 27, #466 of 1661 🔗

Indeed, but why should young people loyally stay and help a country back on track that has demolished their future prospects and proposes to tax them for the rest of their lives for the privilege? People need to get out before emigration is made illegal, East German-style.

440141 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to JME, 6, #467 of 1661 🔗

Better off out

440109 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to kh1485, 6, #469 of 1661 🔗

Bruce, is that you?

440435 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Ceriain, 2, #470 of 1661 🔗

Bruce would have collapsed into a stack of Pesto alla Genovese bottles.

440132 ▶▶ Friedrich Stapß, replying to kh1485, 6, #471 of 1661 🔗

I’d have run in, grabbed all their shopping and licked it.

440139 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 5, #472 of 1661 🔗

I thought that you meant ‘nicked’ it, then it dawned on me!

440169 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to kh1485, 7, #473 of 1661 🔗

Saw a young couple in Aldi last summer, with full on special ops masks. Thought they were taking the piss, but have seen the same couple jogging in masks.

440274 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to PoshPanic, 2, #474 of 1661 🔗

Can’t wait for hayfever season to kick in i am going to be snotting all over the collaborators
No mercy

440172 ▶▶ TheBluePill, replying to kh1485, 5, #475 of 1661 🔗

That’s probably their first time out since last March, after plucking up their courage following their vaccines. Utter madness, who could have guessed the extent of population stupidity that was hiding in plain sight.

440183 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to kh1485, 16, #476 of 1661 🔗

A friend went into Waitrose this morning and was asked by the woman on the till whether he had had the vaccine. I told him he should complain.

440313 ▶▶▶ Spikedee1, replying to kh1485, 1, #477 of 1661 🔗

Probably because in the bbc world this is all they are talking about. In FB they are changing their profile pics to show they have been jabbed FFS!

440315 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to kh1485, 2, #478 of 1661 🔗

Jesus wept.

At least the most bonkers I’ve seen are people wearing masks, visors and gloves.

440343 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to kh1485, #479 of 1661 🔗

Hopefully the same will not in your local Waitrose and then they pop to you for a coffee 🤣

440097 Morse, replying to Morse, 6, #480 of 1661 🔗

Genuine question but has anybody seen an independent organisation or individual get hold of a random vaccine sample (any) and take it to a lab for analysis? Must be pretty easy to get hold of a few vials given the billions knocking about in old leisure centres and church halls?

You would have thought someone would like to see if it contains what it says on the tin?

440104 ▶▶ Basileus, replying to Morse, 5, #481 of 1661 🔗

I am not sure we need to, the experts have spoken:

http://enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp/howard/gcep_dr_vanessa_schmidt_krueger/

440360 ▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Basileus, 2, #482 of 1661 🔗

Has anyone read the information in the link that Basileus has given? If you have then it should highlight the unbelievable horror that is going on.

Ive read it, and tried to understand the chemistry. The crimes being committed almost go beyond that of Nazi germany, in respect that this is being inflicted on the entire world population.

One thing that they elude to briefly, which occurred to me too as I read it, is this……in the vaccine there are extremely toxic cationic lipids (50% of the content if I understand correctly). These lipids are bloody dangerous and they don’t know how long they survive for, in or out of the body. So all those vaccinated sheep have these cationic lipids pumped into their bodies, where some are then eventually passed on in the natural way through excrement. Where do those lipids end up…..in the sewerage system…..where does our drinking water come from???

Read the article. It’s frightening. Even they are frightened/horrified by the implications.

I’m starting to wonder whether we should be drinking bottled water!!!!

440168 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Morse, 5, #483 of 1661 🔗

If only we knew someone who was involved in delivering these things…

440098 PatrickF, 8, #484 of 1661 🔗

Do I have to have a Brazilian before my Brazilian vaccine jab, or after?
Stay at home. Get waxed. Remove pubes.

440103 James Leary #KBF, 11, #485 of 1661 🔗

Template letter for headmasters on masks for children:

440115 LMS2, replying to LMS2, 28, #486 of 1661 🔗

Malcolm Kendrick, 10/10/2020, worth repeating:

“We will effectively be compelling people to become participants in a massive medical research trial. It is my understanding that actions such as this would lie directly within the Nuremberg Code.

Point one: The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.

This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.

The Nuremburg Code was written after the Second World War to ensure that nothing like the unethical human experimentation carried out then on prisoners would ever happen again.

If people want to take these vaccines, of their own free will, that is up to them, and they may be right to make that decision.”

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/10/10/a-sars-cov2-vaccine-dont-hold-your-breath/#comments

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199711133372006
Fifty Years Later: The Significance of the Nuremberg Code – New England Journal of Medicine

440133 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to LMS2, 2, #487 of 1661 🔗

Great post! Great information!

440123 Friedrich Stapß, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 27, #488 of 1661 🔗

Not to toot my own horn, but I posted the following on February 23:

‘The condition that new “variants” do not emerge to render everything null and void, renders everything null and void. And the dates for “relaxing” the oppression are not dates for relaxing the oppression. They are dates before which nothing will happen. Nothing is guaranteed to happen on or after those dates either. The entire announcement was nothing more than the echoing burst of a bubble of methane fart from the fatberg that is Johnson’s incontinent mind.’

Stop celebrating lights at the end of the tunnel. They are the flashes of your approaching enemies’ torches. Advance and fight.

440329 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Friedrich Stapß, 3, #489 of 1661 🔗

Well I hope you keep tooting!

440125 cloud6, replying to cloud6, 25, #490 of 1661 🔗

OMG! We’re all going to die, The Brazilian variant.. The BBC and MSM are going overboard as usual. I find it increasingly difficult to step over the bodies piling up in the street!.

Meanwhile, it’s been a fabulous few days with lots and lots of humans out and about enjoying the lovely weather and vitamin D. Traffic levels are horrendous, we locals cannot find anywhere to park…..

440333 ▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to cloud6, 2, #491 of 1661 🔗

Yes, it’s sunny here in central Scotland today and I’m going out for a long walk in the fresh air.

440143 Friedrich Stapß, 3, #492 of 1661 🔗

Brazil reeling under the ghastly impact of the Brazilian variant, or, as they call it there, “o espirro estranho”. Friedrich Stapß hereby nobly volunteers to go on a desperate quest in search of Patient Zero.

https://youtu.be/CHFimGuslEc

440145 Mic67, replying to Mic67, 40, #493 of 1661 🔗

“Police don’t want to police this,” he said. “We have had enough of this. It is not policeable. It is not manageable.”

A good start to the morning.

440202 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to Mic67, 19, #494 of 1661 🔗

I’m afraid I have fuck all sympathy for them though

440642 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to vargas99, 2, #495 of 1661 🔗

It’s important to accept surrenders with grace…

… then pick out a handful of ringleaders and give them a very public exemplary punishment. Just to make sure.

440146 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 23, #496 of 1661 🔗

WHO’s Yellow card was used for entering vaccinations for diseases required by WHO to be used for travel to certain countries.

In 1970’s smallpox vaccination was required for travel mainly to African and Asian countries. Smallpox vaccinations were also still required during medical training, national military services and for maritime staff. There were individuals with immunosuppressive disorders which could not be vaccinated. The first recommendation for such persons was to avoid travel to those areas. If it was unavoidable and the country was in reality a very low risk for smallpox, you could issue those individuals with a stamped (WHO stamp) exemption card. The problem was that some African countries ignored these exemption cards and earned money by vaccinating at the border crossings. This was for a serious disease with mortality between 2-10%.

Smallpox was eradicated and in reality, only one disease was left in WHO’s regulations where countries could demand vaccine for border entry, yellow fever. This is a mosquito borne disease and not human -human transmission. Mainly African and a few South American countries required these vaccines. Again, maritime staff needed it, apart for travellers for those countries. Yellow fever vaccines could not be given below 1 year of age and certain allergies. WHO Stamped exemption cards could be provided to show at the borders but people not being able to take the vaccine was not advised to travel to those areas as the first option.  There was problem with Brazil, as yellow fever at that time was in remote Amazon areas and not in Rio and big cities. Visitors just to these cities could be provided with exemption cards with WHO stamp. In later years exemption cards for yellow fever became much more common as there were reports of liver problems in elderly after yellow fever vaccines and many gave exemptions cards for everybody over 60.

WHO also stopped cholera vaccination as requirement for crossing frontiers. In fact, WHO has persistently downplayed any international travel vaccination requirement. WHO has insisted against C-19 vaccination pass, realizing that billions of people would be restricted and goes against all previous policies downplaying compulsory travel vaccine.
Never in the world history has there been any requirement for influenza vaccine for international travel and suggesting such a requirement for a respiratory disease 1 year ago would have been called absurd.

US is the biggest market for travel in the world. Even CDC, estimates that up to 30-40% will not take up C-19 vaccine and many of them in ethnic minorities. US military, which has an enormous vaccination programme, cannot require C-19 vaccine as this is EAU vaccine and not formally approved by FDA. The result is that almost half of the US military will not take the C-19 vaccine. In all vaccinations programme there always will be exceptions and in C-19 vaccine, pregnant women, at the moment children, autoimmune diseases and allergic reactions incl. anaphylactoid reactions. It is hard to envisage in the US in practice stopping non vaccinated flying or going on cruises with these numbers incl. military.US has also one of the highest proportion of lawyers per million persons in the world, eager for a profitable income stream.Part 1

440151 ▶▶ swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 44, #497 of 1661 🔗

Part 2
Schengen movement has been completely free and it is hard to see how, with the crossflow between countries in Central Europe at the moment with million crossing borders daily, this type of requirement can work in practice. It is almost unthinkable.
The only more plausible speculation would be for outside Europe travel but why would starving African countries, in need of tourists, require such a ridiculous requirement as a C-19 vaccine. There’s bound to be an easy exemption policy in practice. There is also the possibility of so many different vaccines and some European countries might accept Russian and Chinese vaccines and others will not, another spanner in the wheel for a common passport.
The day the scheme starts there will already be a thriving black market for vaccination fraud (already now for PCR tests) and widespread corruption could follow with bribed medics issuing Pfizer vaccines certificate but instead throwing away the vaccine as the tourist only would be interested in the stamp.

Therefore, I think the whole vaccine passport thing is a big psyop operation to scare people into vaccine. But it has also been convenient excuse for persons, who in reality might be frightened of C-19 after 1 year’s indoctrination.

Anybody wanting to travel and having no fear of C-19 could wait until better safer and more inluenza like vaccines are coming and/or also wait and see if vaccine passports really are coming in practice. For those not wanting vaccine at all there would be plenty of options to choose above including inventing having an anaphylactoid reaction for other vaccines earlier. Not a single doctor would think of vaccinating such person with C-19 vaccine.

440203 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to swedenborg, 3, #498 of 1661 🔗

Thanks. Great post!

440240 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to swedenborg, 3, #499 of 1661 🔗

Underrated post

440249 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to swedenborg, 14, #500 of 1661 🔗

Great post. I’m sure your last two paragraphs are spot on. Lots of truths in there, derived from clear thinking.

It’s all bluster. Anyone who doesn’t want the poison, hold your nerve. Nothing’s going to happen.

440331 ▶▶▶ Tom in Scotland, replying to swedenborg, 7, #501 of 1661 🔗

Thanks for the comprehensive post. I agree and have posted about the logistical problems associated with this before (though not in such excellent detail!). It’s a psy-op and the UK government is pushing it so hard out of desperation as many people are turning down the injection. If they start coming for people’s children, it could actually get violent and I’m not sure if the UK government is ready for that – note how quickly they backed down on testing and masks in English schools.

What I really cannot understand is why sceptics are taking the injection in the belief (or hope) that they will somehow be freed from bondage. When did the government actually say that? Indeed, government has been saying quite the opposite! It’s bizarre.

440417 ▶▶▶ jennybean, replying to swedenborg, 3, #502 of 1661 🔗

Thanks for this info, made me feel better. My hubby had mentioned before about how the Schengen movement around Europe would make it hard to implement. Plus at present only 5% of places like France, Germany and Italy have been vaccinated and are much more hesitant. I’m hoping places in Europe that are much more willing to protest for their rights will put an end to the passport nonsense.

440187 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to swedenborg, 4, #503 of 1661 🔗

Yellow fever vaccine (late 80s) was cause of partner’s psoriasis (auto immune disease)

440147 frankfrankly, replying to frankfrankly, 21, #504 of 1661 🔗

All these bad medical staff who won’t be ‘vaccinated’ and are therefore putting people at risk. If the jab does not prevent transmission, but greatly reduces symptoms, then the vaccinated person remains infectious. The Govt. has repeatedly said that up to 30% of those with Covid are asymptomatic and so are a major means of spreading the virus. If this is true, then someone who has been vaccinated and who gets Covid will in effect be asymptomatic and therefore a threat. Or am I missing something?

440205 ▶▶ mj, replying to frankfrankly, 10, #505 of 1661 🔗

no. you are spot on with the illogicality of all this.
In fact it is worse ..

  • The vaccines do not stop you catching Covid
  • The vaccines do not stop you passing it on .
  • The vaccines apparently do reduce the symptoms of covid should you catch it. That means that you might catch covid and as symptoms are reduced, just think you have a cold. In which case you do not self isolate. So you have a greater chance of passing it on. This is in addition to the 1 in 3 asymptomatic carriers who will still pass it on
440236 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to mj, 7, #506 of 1661 🔗

The whole nonsense is further illustrated by tbe relative vs absolute risk reduction numbers evidenced in the round up.

We are reaching peak insanity.

440230 ▶▶ BTLnewbie, replying to frankfrankly, 15, #507 of 1661 🔗

Logically you are right but it’s a dangerous line of argument.
It’s dangerous because it gives credence to the concept that we are at risk from asymptomatic transmission and therefore that EVERYONE YOU MEET is a threat to your health. That’s the fundamental flaw that has been driving the whole shambles.

440248 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to frankfrankly, 5, #508 of 1661 🔗

Asymptomatic transmission is a meme at this point

441240 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to frankfrankly, #509 of 1661 🔗

You are not mangling the logic as well as the professionals.

440149 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 6, #510 of 1661 🔗

Welcome to NaZi land

“Case M had previously returned 3 negative test results but is regarded to have been potentially infectious

“breaking the rules was unacceptable and that those who had done so were facing the full judgement of the entire nation”

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1366320270114488321
.

‘Everyone is angry’: Ardern under pressure over latest Auckland Covid lockdownNew Zealand PM says she understands frustration at people who have not followed Covid rules but argues against punishment

440186 ▶▶ richmond, replying to Victoria, 11, #511 of 1661 🔗

The full story in the Guardian (linked from Simon Dolan’s tweet) is unbelievable. Setting the whole country onto a 21-year-old for behaving normally.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/01/ardern-covid-lockdown-pressure-auckland-new-zealand

440231 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to richmond, 9, #512 of 1661 🔗

This is the insanity of zero Covid. That an entire public health security apparatus is destroyed by a single case.

Ahern will soon pivot to acceptable levels of Covid as the vaccine has arrived. That will be used to cover up the bump in care home deaths as they administer it to them first.

440653 ▶▶▶ stewart, replying to richmond, #513 of 1661 🔗

I wonder if they are going to go full on Lord of the Flies over there and start lynching their own in a massive collective fit of hysteria and frenzy.

440196 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Victoria, 11, #514 of 1661 🔗

‘Build Bick Bidder’

440261 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Victoria, 3, #515 of 1661 🔗

You will never convince me that horse face is a woman

440153 Mark, replying to Mark, 42, #516 of 1661 🔗

“Police no longer wish to enforce Covid rules to break up groups gathering outdoors in the month before the restrictions are eased , rank and file officers said on Sunday night.”

Too late, I’m afraid. The police as an institution and police men and women in general have been shown up as bullies willing to enforce these kinds of illiberal restrictions whenever they can get away with it, and to use force against those vulnerable to it while “taking the knee” to those with establishment backing.

And it’s apparent to almost everyone who has experienced the “can’t respond because we lack the manpower” excuses when dealing with real crimes that they have manpower to spare to address non-crimes such as coronapanic regulatory issues, “offence crimes” and “hate speech”.

The reality is that resources have been diverted from addressing real crime to dealing with political dissent “crimes”. Hence stories like:

Justice in retreat: Damning probe reveals HALF of British police stations have closed in just ten years… with some being turned into cannabis farms or overrun with anarchist squatters
We need to completely change the policing system, but any attempt to do so will merely be abused by the woke types who pervade the modern establishment to turn it even more completely into what they really want – a state militia concentrating mainly on political “crimes” and enforcing conformity.

Most likely we are no longer a culture that can sustain political tolerance and therefore liberty. Doing so requires expecting people to tolerate dissent, and to refrain from expecting the state to protect them from the slightest discomfort or disrespect, real or perceived..

440177 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Mark, 15, #517 of 1661 🔗

The very use of the construct “Non-crime hate incident” beggars belief!

440199 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Mark, 19, #518 of 1661 🔗

I haven’t trusted the police for many years. But these past 12 months have crystallised my complete and utter contempt for them. When showing kindness and compassion garners more attention than real criminality, you know the whole stinking edifice is shot to pieces.

440219 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Mark, 4, #519 of 1661 🔗

The Miners Strike put me off the piggy wiggys for good

440639 ▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Crystal Decanter, #520 of 1661 🔗

Killing David Wilkie put me off the striking miners.

440273 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Mark, 11, #521 of 1661 🔗

Too little, too late agree.

As I’ve said before, I thought that police in this country would be better than the country I left behind where the police are regularly described as criminals in uniform.

How the police behaved during this shit show has destroyed my confidence in them.

The next time they bleat about “cuts”, “poverty” and “racism” as excuses as to why they can’t do their REAL jobs they should be told to take a hike.

Never forgive, never forget, never again.

440906 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Bart Simpson, 3, #522 of 1661 🔗

Never forgive, never forget, never again.

Hear, hear!

440154 JayBee, replying to JayBee, 22, #523 of 1661 🔗

“Trusting a doctor” is already an oxymoron.
Most LS readers know more about the ‘vaccines’ than any GP.
Any doctor who thinks that a cloth, surgical or N95 mask can shield or uphold a respiratory virus can’t be taken seriously at all.
In normal, enlightened times, THEY should have their licenses revoked.
https://everlast.mercolamarket.com/r/?id=h414f321a,268ae449,26db3f58&mid=DM810947&rid=1095709210&p1=c9e6f918d64140ab9ffc66dfce8c4c03fe9ef2c9607b5ca673888e51f429ba9d&p2=20201112

441228 ▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to JayBee, #524 of 1661 🔗

All NPIs have been detrimental to health. Coincidence of course.

440170 Johnsontown, 7, #525 of 1661 🔗

Nice variant

440284 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Victoria, 2, #527 of 1661 🔗

Excellent point.

440657 ▶▶ stewart, replying to Victoria, 2, #528 of 1661 🔗

But if someone keeps shoving it in your face and insisting, then refuse is exactly the right term.

440175 crimsonpirate, 2, #529 of 1661 🔗

Brazilian? I thought Californian was the real deal

440176 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 9, #530 of 1661 🔗

Typically French , they keep and publish openly weekly statistics on covid, that cover deaths and ‘cases’ in detail, far more detail than anyone could really need. The link is below.
As well as showing that overall deaths in a country with about the same population as UK, is currently 2/3rds the amount, split roughly 60k in hospitals and 25k in care homes ( none recorded at home!) they show with comprbidities at 94% with hypertension, obesity and diabetese as by far the most prevalent. And median age of death 85 years.
So what you would expect.
However dig deeper and they record ‘confirmed covid’ and unconfirmed covid’ with unconfirmed at 40% of the total number. Then they go further and state what is recorded on death certificates received since 1 March to 23 February; this shows 36,538 recording covid on the certificates. There is no reconciliation between the 85k and 36k numbers. But they have introduced the concept of ‘unconfirmed’.
Is the real death rate ‘with’ covid in France a little over 36,000? It begins to look that way.
https://www.santepubliquefrance.fr/maladies-et-traumatismes/maladies-et-infections-respiratoires/infection-a-coronavirus/documents/bulletin-national/covid-19-point-epidemiologique-du-25-fevrier-2021

440194 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to peyrole, 2, #531 of 1661 🔗

I’ve seen estimates for roughly the same in the UK

440178 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 53, #532 of 1661 🔗

Today’s board:

Surprise, surprise, after a weekend of people enjoying themselves, a new ‘variant’ appears.

—————–

All Brazilians welcome here. 🙂

440189 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to kh1485, 17, #533 of 1661 🔗

If I was local, I would have brought you lots of copies of the Daily Mail to give away free – you know, the one with the four page spread on fake covid death certificates…

440216 ▶▶▶ mj, replying to Sam Vimes, 7, #534 of 1661 🔗

KH could buy one copy and pin up the relevant page / headline on the wall … In the way that Communist and Third World countries used to do.

440239 ▶▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to mj, 12, #535 of 1661 🔗

Oh, I have lots of things for people to read.

We had a rather ugly plyboard security door installed last year and when that’s open it doubles as a notice board. Pride of place is Annie’s poem ‘Smiling is Infectious ..,’

441114 ▶▶▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to kh1485, 1, #536 of 1661 🔗

Thanks for the reminder; I have just checked that I have saved my copy on the two word documents of the best postings from this site.

441433 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ james007, replying to RichardJames, #537 of 1661 🔗

I would love to see a ‘best of’. I think i miss a lot of great comments.
Love to hear from kh1485.

440245 ▶▶ Poppy, replying to kh1485, 10, #538 of 1661 🔗

Really wish I lived down south so I could give your café a visit or three!

440316 ▶▶▶ Old Trout, replying to Poppy, 2, #539 of 1661 🔗

Ditto!

440625 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to kh1485, 1, #540 of 1661 🔗

Let’s hope the Met haven’t be instructed to shoot Brazilians on sight.

440180 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 16, #541 of 1661 🔗

Not sure if published before but worth republishing. Something for an investigating journalist (vanishing species) but at least in BMJ. Very concerning about suspect corruption.
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n490

Tracking down John Bell: how the case of the Oxford professor exposes a transparency crisis in government

440210 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to swedenborg, 12, #542 of 1661 🔗

BMJ have been excellent. As far as questioning from within the circle of trust goes. All roads lead to the same sources of funding. And if you watch tbe latest videos from Reiner Fullmichs team you see that GAVI and the Gates Foundation are exempt from taxes in Geneva where their HQ is, and have diplomatic like immunity too. So the local police and such cannot enter their premises.

The whole thing reminds me of the history of Rockefeller and his take over of the medical school systems in the US and the education system more broadly. It’s all about shaping the system to your point of view from the base.

440252 ▶▶▶ JME, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 3, #543 of 1661 🔗

I agree there have been some good articles/ investigations by the BMJ but the weekly journal has recently become unreadable with articles generally very pro-lockdown, pro-vaccine & even pro- zero-Covid. Last two went straight in the bin after seeing what was on the front cover.

440184 Harry hopkins, 21, #544 of 1661 🔗

Isolation? Sars Cov–2 has NEVER been isolated or purified. This illustrates the real nature of what’s going on:

440190 GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 7, #545 of 1661 🔗
440191 Johnsontown, 23, #546 of 1661 🔗

Hey, Boris! Leave those kids alone!

440192 kenadams, 38, #547 of 1661 🔗

I had a very uplifting zoom call yesterday. I joined my local Freedom Hub. You can DuckDuckGo this to find out more. Four of us on the call. We didn’t really talk about activism, but it was just so lovely to talk about this with like minded souls. It really reinforced my decision of a couple of days ago that I had to abandon most of my friends, painful though that is, because there’s simply no talking to someone now who is pro-lockdown.

I strongly suggest you sign up for whatever your nearest Freedom Hub is. The call yesterday was the best therapy I could have asked for.

440195 Glyn, replying to Glyn, 31, #548 of 1661 🔗

How many of us are now beginning to despair not just for how we get ourselves out of this insane mess but what the future holds for our children in the hands of the truly deranged whether within the Tories, Labour, LibDems, the teaching unions, broadcast media etc etc

440227 ▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to Glyn, 11, #549 of 1661 🔗

I have never been less optimistic – but I refuse to despair. That is one step away from giving up and we absolutely must not do that. Our children need us to keep fighting against the derangement with all the conviction that has kept us going so far.

440242 ▶▶ Poppy, replying to Glyn, 18, #550 of 1661 🔗

The children and young people who have grown up during this time will not forget how they have been treated. Mark my words. As for the very young children and babies, all they have ever known so far is a life imprisoned, but it is up to us to show them a better way. We cannot fight if we accept defeat now.

440259 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Glyn, 2, #551 of 1661 🔗

Collapse is the only way to clear out this current infestation

440198 JayBee, replying to JayBee, 27, #552 of 1661 🔗

Kristi Noem. A politician with character, values, a brain, the looks and, above all, cojones!
So the exact opposite of Johnson, Biden, Macron, Merkel&co.

440222 ▶▶ TJN, replying to JayBee, 9, #553 of 1661 🔗

If she asked me, I’d consider marrying her. (Sorry Mrs TJN.)

440235 ▶▶ Lindy, replying to JayBee, 13, #554 of 1661 🔗

And who understands the limit of what she has the legal and, most importantly, moral right to do.

A true leader

440264 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Lindy, 5, #555 of 1661 🔗

Yep.
And let’s not forget:
The main reason Obama got nominated, beat Hillary and then got elected was because he was one of the few who voted against the Iraq war at the time.
I fully expect a similar change of mood and resulting search for only anti-lockdown candidates henceforth, certainly in the USA.
Whether Dominion will allow them to win is another story.

440570 ▶▶▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to JayBee, 1, #556 of 1661 🔗

Obama was an enthusiastic droner none the less.

440204 JohnDanny, replying to JohnDanny, 12, #557 of 1661 🔗

Depressingly and inevitably, we now have coronavirus ‘art’. This is a scene at the Flannels store on Oxford Street, London. This and other screens at the store display a series or ‘artworks’ (read: utter bollocks) as part of a campaign in support of – you’ve guessed it – the NHS.

Tacky and Bungling finally meet.

441047 ▶▶ Woden, replying to JohnDanny, 2, #558 of 1661 🔗

The Arts had lost its way well before this period of insanity, hopefully there are mavericks and eccentrics who are not wokeified or ‘on fucking message’ and are doing proper art..with vision and imagination.

441065 ▶▶▶ JohnDanny, replying to Woden, 1, #559 of 1661 🔗

‘The Arts had lost its way well before this period of insanity…’

Agreed.

440208 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 10, #560 of 1661 🔗

LDS the pro-experimental drug site. Thousands dead, tens of thousands injured. Ah, just a coincidence. Follow the science (fiction). mRNA and aborted fetal cells, yum, yum, good for you, and your 99.7% effective immune system. Goes better with cocaine, heroin and netshitz porn.

“El Salvador care home in Toledo in Spain, run by the “ Messengers of Peace ,” began administering the first doses of the Pfizer experimental vaccine on January 13. After six days, ten residents began to demonstrate symptoms of COVID-19, which swiftly resulted in a large number of residents and staff presenting with symptoms.

As of February 2, there had been a total of nine residents who had died following their injection, 5 more in hospital , and 33 members of staff who were found to have tested positive according to PCR tests. Out of the total of 78 residents, only one did not test positive for the virus.”

But of course, it was the asympotmatic killer spreader…..

“Despite this peculiar correlation in events, Mella did not attribute anything to the injections, but called the deaths and infections a “coincidence.” He suggested that one of those administering the injections was asymptomatically carrying and spreading the virus”

Chucking retards. Oh a big word. Must be true and must be ‘science’.

440667 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to FerdIII, 1, #561 of 1661 🔗

If the people travelling round care homes administering injections know they are being blamed they would have resigned. If it was true that would have been investigated, they would have been sent to isolation and new troops, rigorously tested, being made to isolate in a special facility before setting out to care homes. There would be a whole procedure, if they really cared if the virus did not get into homes or if they cared about their lives. Of course they know the “vaccine” causes a positive test.

440209 BTLnewbie, 13, #562 of 1661 🔗

Just heard from French (originally Welsh) brother. Two big birthday/rugby parties yesterday, St David’s Day BBQ today, golf matches Friday and Saturday.
He looks upon us Brits with a bemused wonder that we haven’t reclaimed our freedoms 🙁

440213 Major Panic, 7, #563 of 1661 🔗

Two articles in todays round up are very interesting (well they all are) – and please tell me if I have interpreted these incorrectly;

1 – people can suffer from ADE with or without the vaccine and low levels of vit D could be a cause – so keep chomping on the vit D

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m2722/rr-5

2 – the difference between ‘relative risk’ and ‘absolute risk’ is massive and people’s lack of understanding of any of this (even doctors) re the vaccines probably means non of the jabbed have given informed consent – they couldn’t.

https://www.mdpi.com/1010-660X/57/3/199

So if you are going to have the experimental gene therapy, keep taking vit D daily and understand that the jab is no where near as effective as claimed by the salesmen.

If I’m forced to take the shite it will only be for travel abroad purposes and it will likely be the nasal spray vax when approved later this year.

440218 Mark, replying to Mark, 8, #564 of 1661 🔗

The DM online front page, illustrating that “woke” bullshit assumptions predominate even in the supposedly “Conservative” parts of our establishment. Just another bit of celebrity worship fluff, but note that the DM’s view of these two empty-headed celebs safely signalling their virtue is that they were “fearless”, in their criticism of a supposed failure to comply enthusiastically and promptly enough with establishment dogma.
About as “brave” as a Soviet apparatchik denouncing an out of favour bit of the bureaucracy for deviationism.
Golden Globes hosts Tina Fey and Amy Poehler slam the Hollywood Foreign Press Association for having no black members

Tina Fey and Amy Poehler were fearless in delivering the Golden Globes monologue Sunday with jabs at the HFPA’s diversity problem, James Corden and Kate Hudson among other remarks. Fey, 50, was broadcasting from New York City’s Rainbow Room, while Poehler, 49, was at the Beverly Hilton in Los Angeles, as the celebrities remained at home via remote streams, with first responders and essential workers in attendance, seated at socially distanced stations.”

440225 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Mark, 12, #565 of 1661 🔗

I would like to be brown/bronze but they wont let me out of this shit hole – currently I am too pasty white

440260 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Mark, 12, #566 of 1661 🔗

Did either of them say, “No thank you, give my presenter post to a black person.” when they were offered the, no doubt, highly paid job?

No, didn’t think so.

440270 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Mark, 4, #567 of 1661 🔗

Locked up alone the other side of a continent from the co-host, delivering carefully scripted platitudes which had been linked to a fawning press weeks in advance is now “fearless.”

I’m sure the term used to describe things like throwing yourself on a hand grenade to save your mates, or rescuing a drowning child, but there we are.

440905 ▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Jo Starlin, #568 of 1661 🔗

Indeed.

Though there’s a place for a kind of moral or political courage, in expressing an important truth that brings with it opprobrium and likely harm to the speaker’s person or career. That’s the kind of “courage” being falsely attributed to these airheads.

The reality is, of course, that the only way you could today exhibit “courage” of that kind in a Hollywood/US sphere establishment context would be by stating a hard truth that is viewed as “racist”, “sexist” or “antisemitic”. In other words saying the opposite of what they were preaching. That would actually be hazarding real risks, rather than just smarming to an elite audience in the expectation of praise and approval.

In the current climate, that would probably apply to “antivax” and even perhaps to anti-lockdown or anti-mask stuff as well.

440224 JayBee, 5, #569 of 1661 🔗

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03/no_author/vaccines-useless-against-newly-mutated-b-1-1-7-coronavirus-strain/
Ho to beat the Brazilian and all other variants…?!
If this really was about health, tbey would at least investigitate this properly, urgently and with verve.

440229 FerdIII, 12, #570 of 1661 🔗

Just another alt-right wing, nutter, anti-science, fact-checked and debunked conspiracy. Until it comes true.

Check out the Vaccine Credential Institute . Sheeple will bleat approval. Big Ugly Criminal Tech and the Deep state, launching a digital ‘vacciation’ ID plus all your personal info. How kind of them. I guess your ID will match the number tattooed to your wrist.

https://vaccinationcredential.org/

WEF and Rockefeller are host agencies. Milliband, BLiar’s bum chum IRS group is also involved.

Nothing to worry about of course. It is just the ‘science’……

440234 RickH, replying to RickH, 16, #571 of 1661 🔗

I don’t know how many will have picked up the article mentioned in today’s ‘Round-Up’ :

Hidden there is an absolutely key piece of information about the risk reduction related to vaccination, and hidden behind the advertising campaign – which is what is essentially what current ‘information’ comprises:

Outcome Reporting Bias in COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Clinical Trials ” – [technical paper in Medicina]

If you’re not sure about the distinction between absolute and relative risk, you are not alone, and the confusion is commonly used to hide information. It is, however, absolutely central to the assessment of a treatment, and I suggest a quick web search if you’re not sure – it’s easily understood, and absolute risk reduction figures are the key to overall assessment :

Relative risk reduction and absolute risk reduction measures in the evaluation of clinical trial data are poorly understood by health professionals and the public. The absence of reported absolute risk reduction in COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials can lead to outcome reporting bias that affects the interpretation of vaccine efficacy.” ……

“Unreported absolute risk reduction measures of 0.7% and 1.1% for the Pfzier/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, respectively, are very much lower than the reported relative risk reduction measures. Reporting absolute risk reduction measures is essential to prevent outcome reporting bias in evaluation of COVID-19 vaccine efficacy.”

440253 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to RickH, 14, #572 of 1661 🔗

And the on the ground results in Israel merely confirm that.
An absolute risk reduction of getting mild symptoms of under 1%.
No measurable impact on hospitalisations and deaths.
And all that in exchange for a ticking unknown medium to long term side effects time bomb.
Crazy.

440265 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to JayBee, 8, #573 of 1661 🔗

… and immunity and transmission aren’t affected. Which was the whole f.ing point, I believe?

440288 ▶▶ Julian, replying to RickH, 5, #574 of 1661 🔗

I will decline the offer of a vaccine, for now, for many reasons – long term trials are not finished yet, efficacy data seems weak, and I would like to know whether they have checked the impact on people with my medical history (auto immune disorders) – which I am sure they haven’t

But for me the key general question would be the extent to which it changes my risk of dying of something in the next year, given my age and general health. It that what’s meant by absolute risk?

440332 ▶▶ Mayo, replying to RickH, #575 of 1661 🔗

Yes – there is a big difference between relative risk and absolute risk but to draw any conclusions from the data we currently have is impossible.

For example, Pfizer, after a couple of months found 162 ‘infections’ in the placebo group and just 8 in the vaccine group. The main problem is that the early part of the trial was conducted when virus incidence was low so there was an issue with the number of infections.

This means we don’t know how many more people in the 2 groups would have been exposed and infected had incidence been higher or the trial longer. If everyone was susceptible (i.e. 100%) then the initial relative risk value was a reasonable estimate of ABSOLUTE risk. However, this is is unlikely to be the case and it might only be 50% who are susceptible – or even less now that so many more people have been infected.

The other issue with the trials is the low representation of population groups, e.g. elderly.

440395 ▶▶▶ AB, replying to Mayo, 7, #576 of 1661 🔗

Seeing as they unblinded the trial to let us know about the infection rates in the vaccine group and placebo group,I have a question.
The trial is still ongoing to monitor medium to long term effects.
Why don’t they let us know how the vaccine group and placebo group are getting on now?
Surely if large numbers of the placebo group had come down with the lurgy compared to the vaccine group over the winter they would be shouting this result from the rooftops

440237 mojo, replying to mojo, 34, #577 of 1661 🔗

When will people wake up to the fact that they are now going to be constantly living in fear of being ill, not travelling, not seeing their family and even that their vaccine may not be up to date.

I can see more lockdowns being imposed, vaccination every couple of months, suppression, propaganda and death. Lots of death from suicide, loneliness and giving up on happiness.

When will our commentators and politicians actually do something to help the electorate instead of appeasing the globalist who run government.When will the electorate wake up to the real possibility that we have a Monster appearing yet again who thinks he can control the world.

440387 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to mojo, 6, #578 of 1661 🔗

I actually think you should remove the word ill from your first paragraph!

440243 l835, replying to l835, 23, #579 of 1661 🔗

I’m sorry, but I think the hunt for the missing Brazilian is hilarious. They just look incredibly incompetent. Isn’t Brazil on the red list? The covid hotels work then!!!

440337 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to l835, 11, #580 of 1661 🔗

The Liverpool Echo reports that the Brazilian Mutation has been tracked down to the Anfield L4 district of the city, where it’s drawing £200k per week by pretending to be a centre-forward called Roberto Firmino in the employ of Liverpool Football Club. “Zis explains much about hiss rezent form”, a Herr J. Klopp is quoted as saying.

441477 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Dermot McClatchey, #581 of 1661 🔗

🙂

Mind you, the best assist I’ve ever seen in my life the other week. Si, Senor !

440246 Liberty, replying to Liberty, 31, #582 of 1661 🔗

OVER 40s TO BE CALLED UP FOR COVID VACCINATIONS

That’ll be a fun conversation.

Doctor: Mrs Walker we would like to invite you for the Covid vaccine.

Me: Thank you but I will be declining your offer.

Doctor: Can I please ask you why?

Me: Of course. It is experimental, it might cause infertility, long term side effects are unknown, many elderly in care homes have died shortly following the vaccine. The disease, which I have already had, is extremely unlikely to harm me. It will lead to a vaccine passport which will control the population. It is also a huge money waster. It has been created to solve a problem for the elderly and vulnerable, so give it to them, not me.

Doctor: But Mrs Walker, it is quite safe, even the Queen says so.

Me: The Queen is not a woman still in her fertile years, she is not going to be here to see any long term effects and she doesn’t know about my severely vaccine damaged sister.

Doctor: But you need to do this so we can end lockdown.

Me: We need to stop accepting these measures to end lockdown. I thank you for your time, but it’s a no from me.

Doctor: but, but …..endless ringing tone….

440254 ▶▶ ThomasT, replying to Liberty, 20, #583 of 1661 🔗

My wife informed me of the over 40`s thing yesterday and seemed to suggest it was a reason to celebrate and be happy. The MIL told me how wonderful the vaccines are and now everyone she knows thinks the vaccines are amazing and they are overjoyed at having it. Some of her friends are even getting dressed up to go and have the like its a special occasion. Total craziness.

Looks like I will be having a big argument with the wife in April when the local surgery contact me.

440277 ▶▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to ThomasT, 12, #584 of 1661 🔗

My wife (not as sceptic as me) is trying to book the “vaccine” on line. She can book the first jab but it informs her to book the second, which she is unable to do. Another computer system success.

(I’ve declined the “vaccine” until they get a vaccine).

440309 ▶▶ Old Trout, replying to Liberty, 19, #585 of 1661 🔗

I’ve blocked my surgery’s phone number so I won’t be getting bothered by them. Funny how they’ve never had time to deal with real ailments for the past year but seem to have hours to spare ringing and pestering people to get jabbed.

440310 ▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to Old Trout, 8, #586 of 1661 🔗

Normal ailments don’t win them so many brownie points with their bosses.

440358 ▶▶ Bart Simpson, replying to Liberty, 8, #587 of 1661 🔗

I’ve not gotten around to registering with a GP yet and with this shit show I intend to make my non-registration permanent.

As fas as the NHS is concerned, I don’t exist.

440415 ▶▶ mhcp, replying to Liberty, 2, #588 of 1661 🔗

My answer is simple: if I were to apply the safety standards of this “vaccine” to water purity you’d be dead by next week.

440703 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Liberty, #589 of 1661 🔗

I was just going to say, ‘begone, Satan’ myself

440251 CrazyHoarse, replying to CrazyHoarse, 43, #590 of 1661 🔗

I listened to “The long road out of lockdown” on the spiked podcast on the way to work this morning and I’m sick to death of this wishy-washy brand of lockdown scepticism. Ella Whelan is particularly timid and deferent to the state line that lockdown is absolutely necessary. She even used one of my most hated arguments about lockdown – that it’s not black and white, lockdown or open up entirely, it’s actually more complicated.

Horseshit.

It is black and white. It absolutely is. One of the reasons this fascist coup still trundles on is spineless journalists like Whelan who first assume that the state has any moral right to arrogate to itself these extraordinary powers then she tries to reason how we might slowly return to normality. It is completely black and white, end the lockdown in one go. This idea that’s actually shades of grey is a pathetic attempt to appear balanced and measured when if she was a real journalist she would be howling with rage

440255 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to CrazyHoarse, 22, #591 of 1661 🔗

Agreed. It is black and white.

They have no right to do any of this.

That’s where everything starts and ends.

441139 ▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Jo Starlin, 1, #592 of 1661 🔗

Moot point (depending on the validity of this clip in this video)

THE CORPUS JURIS and the Magna Carta (lbry.tv)

about 8 and half minutes in.

440305 ▶▶ Harry hopkins, replying to CrazyHoarse, 13, #593 of 1661 🔗

Not only is it black and white it is, quite simply, good against evil!

I’m fed up also with the wishy washy dissection of statistics and figures that go on day in and day out among so called sceptics (Including on this site!) who are simply playing the game of those who would control us. This is the reason my visits to this site are few and far between these days.
The Virus does not exist! it is a mental construct designed to cow the population into fear and hysteria so that the rich and privileged can exploit us in any way they see fit.

No matter how many times the PCR test is ridiculed and the lies and propaganda are exposed, there are still those who follow the ‘cases’ the ‘infections’ the ‘new strains’ and whatever other gobbledegook the MSM force feed down people’s throats.

It’s all Bollox. The ‘virus’ doesn’t exist. It never has. The only way to counteract this dystopia we are living through is to accept this and stop pussy footing around.

440695 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Harry hopkins, 2, #594 of 1661 🔗

ABSOLUTELY!!!! If I could uptick your comment x100 I so would

441151 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to JaneHarry, #595 of 1661 🔗

Me too. I raise you x100.

440461 ▶▶ Mark, replying to CrazyHoarse, 4, #596 of 1661 🔗

Absolutely agree that lockdown is fundamentally a black and white issue – it’s wrong on principle, it should never have been imposed, and it should go immediately. Also that these “balanced” panderers seem often motivated by a desire to seem moderate, and to maintain respectability, rather than any honest belief in what they say.

My only quibble would be with the connotations of using the term “fascist”. It is objectively that, but there tends to be a simplistic association of fascist as the right-wing and communist as the left-wing forms of totalitarianism. What we are facing is certainly totalitarian, but it is in no sense conservative. It is collectivist, state-centered, radical and utopian and in all those senses it is very much of the political left (as are our “Conservatives”). Which is one reason why the political left from Starmer to the zero-covid Socialist Campaign Group and Jeremy Corbyn are so fully on board with it, criticising it only for not going far enough, fast enough and hard enough.

440256 RickH, replying to RickH, 14, #597 of 1661 🔗

‘Blair’s back and advising the Tories”

… and then I remembered how (amongst other things), he was called ‘Tory Blair’ as he bombed his way through Iraq and manufactured lies to justify his obsession.

440325 ▶▶ Mark, replying to RickH, 10, #598 of 1661 🔗

and then I remembered how (amongst other things), he was called ‘Tory Blair’ as he bombed his way through Iraq and manufactured lies to justify his obsession.

As usual, happy to do what you criticise others for. But it’s ok when you do it, of course.

Of course the”Conservatives” and Blair get on fine, because they all share the same basically leftist, globalist, illiberal, radical view of society as something that can be remade new and better by state power and ideological indoctrination, led by an intellectual vanguard who know what’s best for us all. He was called “Tory Blair” as empty abuse by the defeated rival faction of the Labour left, who were by and large too stupid and incompetent to defeat their rivals, but the Tories subsequently made it come true by changing their own positions to match his, because it was the route to personal “respectability” and power, which was all that mattered to them..

Of course bombing foreign countries into compliance is acceptable for such types. But while he was enthusiastically murdering in Iraq to force it into into submission, Blair was also opening the floodgates to mass immigration in order to “rub the right’s noses in diversity”, change society forever, justify more illiberal and police state measures to suppress dissent, and break down resistance to further changes. Alongside putting his Trotskyite and other former and not so former Marxist pals into positions of authority, where they could remould institutions into a “modern” woke form (and incidentally wipe clean the security service records of his own and his friends’ former radical activities).

None of which the modern Blairite “Conservatives” seem to have any problem with.

440507 ▶▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Mark, 5, #599 of 1661 🔗

Cameron , circa 2010 :” I intend to be the heir to Blair”. he kept his promise – give him that.

440559 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to RickH, 1, #600 of 1661 🔗

Speaking of never ending wars I assume it’s Donald J Biden droning Syria.

440258 Charlie Blue, 22, #601 of 1661 🔗

https://twitter.com/Sacha_Lord/status/1366303732951089154

Substantial meal requirement dropped by Govt as result of court case. It’s a start. Just shows that every battle is worth fighting on every front (sorry for unintentional war analogy).

440263 Smelly Melly, replying to Smelly Melly, 3, #602 of 1661 🔗

I read a few days ago (in the DT comments) that the U.K. government had procedures in place years ago to deal with pandemics, it was something like the 2011 U.K. pandemic procedure, which was similar to the pre 2019 WHO procedure on pandemics. Does anybody know what the U.K. procedure was called?

440267 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Smelly Melly, 1, #603 of 1661 🔗

Are you thinking of Operation Cygnus?

440295 ▶▶▶▶ Smelly Melly, replying to Sarigan (Day 343 of lockdown), #605 of 1661 🔗

Thank you I’ve bookmarked it.

440266 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 43, #608 of 1661 🔗

And another example of why the police are regarded with such contempt. This, a posting on a local sceptics’ group forum:

My daughter has just come back from the skate park in saffron Walden and police officers went into the park and stopped and searched children as proof of Id who they are! She is 12 years old and shaken up ! Then they said the skate park is shut and they will each be fined £200! Wankers I’m livid !

440268 ▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to kh1485, 9, #609 of 1661 🔗

Time to start fighting back.

ABOLISH the police!

Nothing but…

440280 ▶▶ Kat, replying to kh1485, 19, #610 of 1661 🔗

How can a child be fined? Surely, a court would kick that one out straight away?

440287 ▶▶▶ FedupofLies, replying to Kat, 22, #611 of 1661 🔗

ALL of the fines have been kicked out.

It’s just POLICE WOKE THUGGERY.

ABOLISH these left-wing thugboys!

But the Brits are just a bunch of cap-doffing weaklings.

Yes, sire, no sire, three bags full sire

Salute the queen!

British bulldog? British gimp mask. PATHETIC.

440292 ▶▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to FedupofLies, 25, #612 of 1661 🔗

Indeed. One of our sceptics’ friends, whose BIL is a magistrate, has said all the fines have been thrown out.

441222 ▶▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to kh1485, #613 of 1661 🔗

Absolutely right that they should have.

440286 ▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to kh1485, 14, #614 of 1661 🔗

In sane times, the best course of action would probably be to generate scandalous adverse publicity for the filth via your local rag, but no doubt they’re as complicit in this shitshow as the rest of the media. Whoever made the posting must be encouraged at least to make an official complaint, or, if they can afford to consult a solicitor, ascertain whether the filth’s actions constitute some form of assault. Nothing will be gained by pointing out on social media the self-evident truth that the police are wankers.

440296 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Dermot McClatchey, 15, #615 of 1661 🔗

Completely agree. I just posted this because, as with the harassment I face, I think this overreach should be made public.

440294 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to kh1485, 19, #616 of 1661 🔗

They can’t stop and search just to get ID.

https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights

Stop and search: police powers

A police officer has powers to stop and search you if they have ‘reasonable grounds’ to suspect you’re carrying:

illegal drugs

a weapon

stolen property

something which could be used to commit a crime, such as a crowbar

You can only be stopped and searched without reasonable grounds if it has been approved by a senior police officer. This can happen if it is suspected that:

serious violence could take place

you’re carrying a weapon or have used one

you’re in a specific location or area

Before you’re searched

Before you’re searched the police officer must tell you:

their name and police station

what they expect to find, for example drugs

the reason they want to search you, for example if it looks like you’re hiding something

why they are legally allowed to search you

that you can have a record of the search and if this isn’t possible at the time, how you can get a copy

440298 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Ceriain, 6, #617 of 1661 🔗

Thanks, I’ll pass that on …

440327 ▶▶ l835, replying to kh1485, 11, #618 of 1661 🔗

Can a minor be searched without a responsible adult present???

440344 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to kh1485, 1, #619 of 1661 🔗

ACAB

440352 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Crystal Decanter, 6, #620 of 1661 🔗

I had to look that up. I thought it was a song by Genesis!

440347 ▶▶ Paul, replying to kh1485, 8, #621 of 1661 🔗

Just wondering,Saffron Walden isn’t twinned with Pyongyang is it ?.

440350 ▶▶▶ kh1485, replying to Paul, 7, #622 of 1661 🔗

Currently, it’s Bad Wildungen. Perhaps TPTB should reappraise!

Thanks Paul, you’ve just given me an idea for the blackboard!

440349 ▶▶ davews, replying to kh1485, 6, #623 of 1661 🔗

Our local skateboard park, which I commented last week is officially shut, was full of activity yesterday afternoon.

441221 ▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to kh1485, 1, #624 of 1661 🔗

That is disgusting. Most of the police as far as I can see are utterly thick and uneducated and unable to use common sense. I have no respect for them now and I am a middleclass 80 year old pensioner who was taught as a child that our police were wonderful. They were then.
Are the children going to be allowed to pay from their pocket money weekly then?
These shildren will hate and fear the police for the rest of their lives

440276 Helen, replying to Helen, 18, #625 of 1661 🔗

Frédéric Vidal, former journalist.

 Open letter to the Journalists of France and elsewhere

TRANSLATED SHORTENED VERSION

I am addressing myself to all the mainstream journalists of France and elsewhere, but above all to those of you who have been very uncomfortable in their profession for some months. I know that you are many.
You are in discord, as indeed are many agents of what are called today the forces of order and who only a short time ago were called guardians of the peace.
Much as they have, you too have slipped quietly these last several years into values which contradict what drove you and is still alive within you. Slowly, you have drifted towards values which are the contrary of what inspired you. You have gradually gone from the status of journalist to that of a propagandist, from informing people to disinformation, from hypocrisy to gross lies.
This year the slope has become slippery and precipitous. {…cut……….}
The list of what you say which is incidental has no end because you have never bothered to reflect on the choices you have made consciously. You obey iniquity.
Behind the illusion of this political-sanitary travesty, you have chosen to serve the soup which is offered by one percent of one percent of the richest in the world, organised by and for corruption. A world war against all the peoples is in progress, while you distract them with the shadows in Plato’s Cave, in the interests of a malicious and despotic force which, cowards as you are, you continue to serve through the media.
Sorry, if these words are harsh, but this is no time for understatement.

The situation demands courage from all. Each day, more and more do not have what they need to meet what is essential. This leads them to be entirely dependent on those who lit the fire. They are pushed into marrying a society which no person in conscience wanted, excepted the psychopaths who have instigated this, but they risk unawares of accepting in order to get air to breathe. A global, liberty-killing society, which even you do not wish for your children and their descendants. What are you going to do for them and for you? {……cut………}
When the house is on fire and one is inside, one does not ask whether it is risky to try to put the flames out, any more than one turns one’s nose up at those who come to assist. […..] I note that many of the blind have become deaf, this is how their psyche protects them from facing up to the illusions which have cradled them this far. I am not addressing them, I know that they will collapse once too many revelations have shattered their denials.

The absolute weapon which will ensure the success of this offensive is information.
You are this weapon, whether you like it or not. You are serving directly the cause of the aggressors, that is what you are being paid for. Do you think you can tolerate for long this role? However, there is not anything bad in you, on the contrary, listen to what is crying out loud from your inside and free yourselves from this weight, that you conscience will never be able to digest. The peoples of the whole world need you. They need you to give them the right information, the information which will enable them not to succumb, to free themselves from the illusion which will otherwise lead them to total slavery. They have been conditioned such that most do not have the capacity to seek this information from source, not even from citizen journalists who present the only alternative; they have been too much pre-programmed, paralysed by the mass manipulation practised daily, they are under hypnosis. Only a minority is not captive in this mental straitjacket. {…….cut……….}
Do not wait until you have nothing to lose, then it will be too late. It can still be done without violence, but when you have nothing left, when the people have nothing, it will be very difficult to contain the violence. This is what we must all conjure up, while we still can, in acting in time.
cont….

440282 ▶▶ Helen, replying to Helen, 21, #626 of 1661 🔗

cont ….

 Frédéric Vidal, former journalist.Open letter to the Journalists of France and elsewhere

Some young people no longer have hope, their fury is mounting, sometimes their rebellion. Others are apathetic. They are cornered against a wall, an abyss with no future. The craftsmen and small and medium-sized enterprises which are the real social and economic fabric of our country are in dire straits, the poorest classes are becoming even poorer, the middle class is being destroyed. That is all happening very quickly because it has been planned by those who call themselves, with your complicity and sometimes your collusion, with your conflicted interests and your corruption, the “élite.”
Five years from now, either the world will be at peace and will reorganise on the basis of new systems of governance, or it will be a globalist and ultra-materialist hell promoted by the dominant paedo-satanic classes.
That depends on all, but on you in particular, because you hold the weapon of information which they use to keep people in fear and subjugation, with lies and repression. Whereas the repression concerns the military and the police. who find themselves today facing the same choices, the mendacity is your affair: you have the power to make it stop.
History will go on, and for those who can read between the lines, despite the sombre appearances of the moment, it will be written when the moment comes in the form of a great liberation and not an imprisonment. I tell you, those who you serve will lose and will have to answer for their crimes and responsibility, from the smallest to the grandest. You have the power to enlist in the right direction of history or else in the wicked.
What is important is not what you have done so far, but what you are going to do in the present. It is that which will be remembered. Have respect for yourselves. Have respect for us.

440300 ▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to Helen, 1, #627 of 1661 🔗

Where has this been published?

440317 ▶▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to peyrole, 1, #628 of 1661 🔗

24 Feb in FranceSoir. He writes good articles on covid every week.
https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/lettre-ouverte-aux-journalistes-de-france-et-dailleurs

440318 ▶▶▶ Dermot McClatchey, replying to Helen, #629 of 1661 🔗

J’accuse!

440283 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 16, #630 of 1661 🔗

Are people on ACE-inhibitors and Statins being injected with so-called covid vaccines to counteract the drugs they are already taking?
When this started, it was clear that one of the differences between say Korea/Japan and the West was their use of calcium channel blockers rather than the enzyme based blockers used in the west. It was postulated in Korea/Japan this explained a lot of the differences of illnesses/deaths. There was a concerted effort in the western medical circles to stop talk about this, and to stop anyone coming off their medication.
The three most common comorbidities linked with covid deaths are related to high blood pressure and diabetese, often ACE-inhibitor drugs and Statins are given for these conditions.
The liklihood is that these drugs widen the route for the virus to enter cells in the lungs.
The so-called vaccines are supposed to reduce this pathway.
Are people being injected with an experimental entity to counteract drugs that have been subject of intense over-use? Is there a risk it will lead to everyone being forced to take statins/ace-inhibitors to counteract the ‘vaccines’? Where does this all stop?

440341 ▶▶ Winston Smith, replying to peyrole, 20, #631 of 1661 🔗

When people start taking responsibility for their own health?

When I suffered a peri-operative stroke when I has my aortic valve replaced and my aortic aneurysm repaired, I was prescribed ACE inhibitors and statins. Why? My BP was in normal limits and my cholesterol was within normal limits.

Because the pathway dictated that anyone who has suffered a stroke should have then, irrespective of their actual need, cookery book medicine was the term leveled at care pathways in the early days, critical of the lack of nuance or clinical judgment offered.

I took myself off them against medical advice and my BP and cholesterol are still within normal, healthy limits. But I’m in a minority, I am educated about health and take responsibility.

I trust very few people with my health and I certainly don’t trust drug companies with anything.

440380 ▶▶▶ Victoria, replying to Winston Smith, 6, #632 of 1661 🔗

Well done. Statins are so bad for your health.

440289 JohnB, replying to JohnB, 20, #633 of 1661 🔗

Think I’ve just lost a very good friend of nearly 40 years. Not willing to wear a mask to attend his wife’s funeral.

Life, eh ?

440303 ▶▶ Liberty, replying to JohnB, 8, #634 of 1661 🔗

Did they demand masks in the invitation? Churches don’t require mask from those exempt, which we can all be.

440441 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Liberty, #635 of 1661 🔗

Wording was along the lines of ‘helpful if you wore a mask at church as that’s our practice and I don’t want to get the priest in any trouble if someone complains.’

Would be happy to go along maskless, but friend is very involved in the church, and I assume sees the priest’s trouble as (hugely) overriding mask refusal.

440457 ▶▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to JohnB, 4, #636 of 1661 🔗

Can you explain you are exempt? Doesn’t matter what your reason is, just say it’s rather personal. I’d go anyway, if you want to. Funerals are important occasions. Having said that, I haven’t set foot in a church since last March, having been weekly for nearly 30 years. I have continued to worship God every Sunday and all week, I have chosen to do so outside the confines of these suffocating ungodly laws.

440467 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Liberty, 3, #637 of 1661 🔗

Can you explain you are exempt?

To friend ? Have discussed things several times.

Doesn’t matter what your reason is, just say it’s rather personal.

We have many reasons for mask refusal. 🙂

I’d go anyway, if you want to. Funerals are important occasions

I’d be happy to piss off the RC church. To the extent of taking salt and ash along and performing a full exorcism. Or taking them to court for discrimination. Or spray-painting an inverted pentagram on their front door.

But turning up to make a point, which would upset my friend, doesn’t seem a good idea.

440503 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Liberty, replying to JohnB, 2, #638 of 1661 🔗

I’m not Catholic and I get your point. I hope you can hold onto your friendship. Divide and conquer is the goal and we need to not let them win.

440563 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Liberty, 3, #639 of 1661 🔗

Thanks Liberty.

I shall probably write him a letter. He is normally a sensible, honourable chap, able to change his mind when necessary. I hope once he is past the funeral, he returns to his normal self.

441133 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Phillips13, replying to JohnB, #640 of 1661 🔗

You’re turning up to honour the memory of his wife and to lend him support. Ignore the mask rubbish and go to the funeral. Not worth losing a friend of such long standing over. I imagine he’ll be more preoccupied with the burying of his wife than what you’ve got adorned on your face. And if not, then perhaps losing him isn’t such a bad thing.

441404 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Phillips13, #641 of 1661 🔗

Thanks Phillips. I would indeed be going solely to support him.

However he is the one evoking the mask rubbish. So as things stand, turning up bare faced would not be sensible.

440354 ▶▶ Mark, replying to JohnB, 6, #642 of 1661 🔗

The way I view these things is, I suspect, the same as yours. They initiate the issue by insisting on compliance with a political signal. At any time they can recognise that they are trying to force you to do something that is profoundly offensive to you. If they persist with it anyway, and force you to choose, they’ve confirmed the value of your friendship to them.

440444 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Mark, 1, #643 of 1661 🔗

Thank you Mark. Exactly the same. Though maybe bereavement has temporarily changed how he views our friendship ?

An old ‘maiming-and-killing’ buddy from ages ago. We have kept in regular touch. Quite traumatised by this.

440291 Johnsontown, replying to Johnsontown, 9, #644 of 1661 🔗

If…

440548 ▶▶ Nigel Sherratt, replying to Johnsontown, 1, #645 of 1661 🔗

Degrees of Bacon, I was an extra, uber leftie Anderson was an old boy. His very evident disdain for the vulgar pleasures of the working classes is clear in O Dreamland .

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160592/

440778 ▶▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to Nigel Sherratt, #646 of 1661 🔗

Cheltenham College I believe. Which scenes were you in? I recall read that the College was a bit miffed afterwards, not appreciating the nature of the film.

Yes I know what you mean about Dreamland – I’ve got that one knocking around on DVD somewhere. There’s a lot of interesting stuff going on in If…. – the 1968 schoolboy revolutionary stuff is a bit silly really. Prosaically you’ve got to wonder where they go after the massacre and what the point of it was. Perhaps unintentionally it highlights the futility of the revolutionary instinct – brutally destroying an imperfect system with nothing to put in its place. The headteacher is perhaps the real villain – an unctuous Blairite manager….? (Was it made before the 68 Paris evenements?)

440306 Major Panic, replying to Major Panic, 20, #647 of 1661 🔗

Is Bill gates a public health menace – and if so, why is he permitted to be a danger to the public?

440326 ▶▶ Jonny S., replying to Major Panic, 8, #648 of 1661 🔗

See this for an explanation.

W.H.O. whistleblower talks to Dr. Reiner Fuellmich

https://www.bitchute.com/video/s8ywf3Y47oZ4/

440342 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Major Panic, 8, #649 of 1661 🔗

He is and I’m guessing, money

440356 ▶▶ jos, replying to Major Panic, 2, #650 of 1661 🔗

Money?

440421 ▶▶ ShropshireLass, replying to Major Panic, 15, #651 of 1661 🔗

He is, I believe, insane. Thinks animals are to blame for climate change. In order to eliminate the problem he has bought up huge swathes of agricultural land with the intention of replacing farm animals with synthetic products for consumption – oh and he includes pets as part of the animal destroyers of our planet too. This is in addition to him stating we need to reduce the world’s population by 1/3rd immediately (excluding of course him and his elite friends who use private jets to fly to WEF conferences etc), yet he has funded most of the coronavirus vaccine programmes (to save lives?!). Pity he is so incredibly wealthy and powerful and has so much control across the world financially and politically.

440465 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to ShropshireLass, 4, #652 of 1661 🔗

Pity our sell-out politicians got involved with him.

440312 Bill Gisz, replying to Bill Gisz, 6, #653 of 1661 🔗

Has anyone here had any success signing up for briefings from the UK Medical Freedom Alliance?
My attempts to sign up for briefings, or to contact them, are all met with “Error” messages. I’d be interested to learn if others have had similar (or better experiences).
Thanks.

440401 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Bill Gisz, 2, #654 of 1661 🔗

Could be a browser issue. Had a similar thing recently with a totally different site – was trying to buy chocolate! – and got error 404 messages when trying to use their contact & form functions in Chrome; changed browsers and the exact same thing worked fine.

440431 ▶▶▶ Bill Gisz, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 2, #655 of 1661 🔗

Thank you!
Using a different browser worked.

440410 ▶▶ ShropshireLass, replying to Bill Gisz, 2, #656 of 1661 🔗

Same thing has happened to me – still trying to join the group. Made several attempts. I think they are being blocked somehow by some big tech company or government or more likely the WEF.

440432 ▶▶▶ Bill Gisz, replying to ShropshireLass, #657 of 1661 🔗

Just tried a different browser and managed to sign up 🙂

440322 SimonCook, replying to SimonCook, 8, #658 of 1661 🔗

Essential reading I think (sorry, not sure if there is an English translated video)
Interview with Dr. Vanessa Schmidt-KrugerHearing # 37 of German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee 30 January, 2021
On 30^th^ January 2021 the German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee interviewed Dr. Vanessa Schmidt-Kruger, a Cell Biologist with over 20 years’ experience in molecular medicine working at the Max Delbrück Center for Molecular Medicine ( https://www.mdc-berlin.de/person/dr-vanessa-schmidt-kruger ).

http://enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp/howard/gcep_dr_vanessa_schmidt_krueger/

440373 ▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to SimonCook, 2, #659 of 1661 🔗

I’ve just posted my response to this below. It’s terrifying. Please read the information in the link, it goes so much darker than we thought…..

440455 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Redundant Pilot, 6, #660 of 1661 🔗

It’s horrifying. One huge experiment on humanity. Picture this common response to the Doctors warnings in that piece:

“Well, I got my jab the other day and I’m fine”

This is the level of absurdity we are dealing with.

440497 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to Redundant Pilot, #661 of 1661 🔗

Many thanks, RP, sorry if I p*ssed on your proverbial chips with my repost! (I must admit I should have properly looked through the threads).

Best regards

Simon

440323 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 40, #662 of 1661 🔗

Horrific story of police abuse from the Facebook page of Member of Welsh Parliament Neil McEvoy. Neil McEvoy

“I want to begin this testimony with a simple, rhetorical question:
Is it not our most basic human right to decide for ourselves what is good and essential for our well being?
Let me give some background of our personal circumstances.
My family was struggling with many issues that are sourced in the constant lockdowns and homeschooling. On top of that came personal family problems which we faced in the last months. They include the very serious illness of my wife’s brother and death of close relatives. We were not even able to say goodbye or go and attend the funeral in Poland.
On the 28th of February me, my wife and our older teenage son decided to go for a walk to one of our favourite spots in Wales, to Talacre Beach. We needed this. Weather was beautiful and we enjoyed a nice and peaceful Sunday afternoon walk. On our way back we crowned the trip with some ice cream and were ready to head off home.
As we came to the car park, we saw there were two police women (PC 3551 Rowlands and PC3519) who were in our understanding handing over penalties to all the owners of cars who were there. We were in no rush to finish our ice cream as we stood by our car. Not long and we were approached by one of the female officers who asked us why we were there and began explaining the covid legislation.
We tried to explain to them our circumstances and that this journey was really essential for our well being. Soon the other police officer joined and they requested my personal details. I asked them whether I was being detained and they said no. I asked them to stop the conversation in that case because I wanted a peaceful time with my family. I refused to give my name as I said that I have not done anything wrong or against the law.
At that point officer PC3519 said that I am under arrest for breaking covid regulations. I passed the car key to my wife and they handcuffed me. I asked my wife who had her phone out to record their badge numbers. I was taken into the police car. After a few minutes they opened the door and asked me outside because they needed to search me. I said I did not agree to any search.
As they entered the car, they told me a number of times that if I give them my name, they could immediately de-arrest me. I did not feel what they were doing was right or lawful and again refused. This was repeated also once more when they were driving the car to the police station.
I was driven to custody and was locked in a small interrogation room. A sergeant of the station (PC1767 Williams) came to me and explained that he did not want me there, but they have the right to keep me in custody for 24 hours. He said if I continue to refuse to give my details I would be strip searched. When he finished, I told him that I did nothing wrong and that I am there against my will and I never consent to any of this. He then became very bullied and exploded with anger and began shouting to my face that if this is the way I want to play with him, I will now learn that he is the one giving orders in this place. He shouted at me saying that he made his risk assessment of me and will now order my strip search. He then left the room banging the door.
About 45 minutes later two other police officers came whose badge numbers or names I do not know. They said they were taking me for a strip search and told me to follow them. I said I did not consent to any of this and asked two things. I was still handcuffed and the right cuff was very tight on my hand and I had no circulation in the palm. I asked whether it could be loosened a little bit. They said it could not. I also asked whether I could use a bathroom, for I really needed it. They said there would be a toilet in the room they were taking me to.
I was taken into a custody cell where they asked me about my size for I would be given some clothes to change. I told them I do not want that and I am happy to stay in my own clothes. I asked again whether I could use that toilet and asked for some toilet paper. The sergeant came and literally said “no sh&* for him until we are finished”, then he left. The officers told me that if I do not want to change my clothes they will have to cut them. I said I do not want any of that and then one of them went outside to get a confirmation from the sergeant they were to cut my clothes and brought scissors. At that point I did not want my clothes ruined and I said I would put their replacement clothing. I had to strip naked in front of them and put the pyjama like a criminal. It felt very humiliating and intimidating.
I was explained my rights to speak to a solicitor and after about 3 hours I was released.”

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440334 ▶▶ l835, replying to Londo Mollari, 5, #663 of 1661 🔗

Shocking. Up to now NWP have been reasonable.

440340 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Londo Mollari, 6, #664 of 1661 🔗

ACAB

440346 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Londo Mollari, 7, #665 of 1661 🔗

Were you charged with anything, if not, you need to speak to your solicitor

440359 ▶▶ Stephen Williams, replying to Londo Mollari, 10, #666 of 1661 🔗

Good for Mondo for standing up to the bastards. I had a similar experience once and if you want to get in touch with me I can give you some advice. Above all say nothing without your solicitor present. It is so strange how evidence goes missing.

440365 ▶▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Stephen Williams, 14, #667 of 1661 🔗

Clarification – this was an incident that happened to another couple, and was reported on by Neil McEvoy, the only member of the Welsh Parliament to oppose lockdowns (so far as I am aware).

440391 ▶▶▶▶ Stephen Williams, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #668 of 1661 🔗

My apologies. I misunderstood. They’re still Statsi bastards though. Aren’t our police wonderful.

440377 ▶▶ ShropshireLass, replying to Londo Mollari, 9, #669 of 1661 🔗

That is shocking. I hope he and his family sue for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.

440491 ▶▶ The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to Londo Mollari, 5, #670 of 1661 🔗

How on Earth can a strip search be justified?! These officers should be sacked immediately.

440724 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Londo Mollari, #671 of 1661 🔗

This could well be a fake news 77th psy-op style story.

440335 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 8, #672 of 1661 🔗

Thanks to Helen for alerting me to the great articles about covid in FranceSoir.
I commend this one on Ivermectin, the miracle drug.
It is criminal that this is not being used everywhere against SARS2.
Just put the link in google translate, and enjoy.
https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/le-miracle-de-livermectine

440345 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to peyrole, 20, #673 of 1661 🔗

a cheap effective treatment for covid – this is unacceptable as it would prevent the emergency approval of the experimental gene therapy ‘vaccines’

Mass murder has been committed and permitted for the purpose of vaccine sales – saving lives has not been the agenda

There is a massive corrupt pyramid of turd behind this and all should be investiGATEd and brought to justice

440363 ▶▶▶ Harry hopkins, replying to Major Panic, 11, #674 of 1661 🔗

You should follow ‘the second Nuremburg tribunal’. It will warm the cockles of your heart.

https://greatreject.org/second-nuremberg-tribunal/

440416 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Harry hopkins, 4, #675 of 1661 🔗

It does.

440439 ▶▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Harry hopkins, 2, #676 of 1661 🔗

thanks

440367 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to peyrole, 5, #677 of 1661 🔗

There are so many people writing about Ivermectin now – and you’re right, it’s criminal that this isn’t being used everywhere. ”Trialsite” on Youtube is a good one.

And this from New Zealand ”Voices for Freedom”:
https://voicesforfreedom.co.nz/is-ivermectin-the-miracle-drug-that-could-end-the-covid-19-pandemic-guest-blog/

440357 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 9, #678 of 1661 🔗
440409 ▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Banjones, 1, #679 of 1661 🔗

He’s been great throughout.

440366 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 19, #680 of 1661 🔗

Brilliant 1/3 of pupils not to get tested ! More parents should challenge this child abuse. Write letters to the school

Covid consent form chaos: ‘THIRD of pupils WON’T get tested’ due to parents not granting permission and younger children not being ‘calm enough’ to be swabbed when classes return next Monday – as schools warn only 1% of staff have had vaccine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9311669/Coronavirus-UK-parents-not-signed-Covid-test-consent-forms.html

440374 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Victoria, 26, #681 of 1661 🔗

As we’re told the ”vaccine” doesn’t prevent transmission, and anyway children don’t suffer from the virus, it really makes you wonder where these people’s brains are.

The very words ”children” and ”swabbed” together makes my blood run cold.

440385 ▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Banjones, 8, #682 of 1661 🔗

Well, someone’s bought an awful lot of swabs. Shame not to stick them somewhere.

Now, where can we find a whole lot of people in an institutional setting, who aren’t used to standing up for themselves…?

440758 ▶▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Ovis, 1, #683 of 1661 🔗
440418 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Victoria, 3, #684 of 1661 🔗

Placing this next to the Union calling for a strike, it really does make an absolute shambles of the whole school system. Two factions (UK Gov and Teachers) , looking in on their petri dish, deciding what should be done. Yet that petri dish is made up of our children.

This is sick

440368 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 21, #685 of 1661 🔗

Well, we didn’t have to wait long, did we …

Presser tonight?

440375 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to kh1485, 13, #686 of 1661 🔗

So predictable.

Tell that to the people who had enough

440378 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to kh1485, 22, #687 of 1661 🔗

I would love to say they really think we are fools, however all the people who will listen to this and agree really are fools, so the government just wheels out the same bull day after day and they all fall for it.

440388 ▶▶ Dan L, replying to kh1485, 15, #688 of 1661 🔗

Sage: We don’t want to lift the boot from your throat in case we have to reapply it later.

440393 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to kh1485, 17, #689 of 1661 🔗

Dear Serial Abusers Granted Exemption – If we are to go backwards, can you make it 2019 please? Things seemed fairly normal then. Thanks in anticipation.

440396 ▶▶ Harry hopkins, replying to kh1485, 24, #690 of 1661 🔗

But what about the marvel vaccines!! You know, those experimental, gene altering, computer generated chemical concoctions that millions are having stabbed into their veins?! I thought they were the magic bullets designed to get us all out of this shit and back to normal?

Me thinks that sooner or later the injected masses may begin to smell a rat when it dawns on them that far from being their much touted saviour these jib jabs are an experimental risk that gives no advantage whatsoever and only leads to a real risk of they no not what.

I honestly believe that when the truth is out—as is as inevitable as night follows day—the fear of an imaginary virus will be replaced by the fear and anxiety of living with these jabs they were coerced into having.

As I said to a near neighbour the other day who was boasting to me that they had had the jab—– Good luck with that!

440397 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to kh1485, 20, #691 of 1661 🔗

Sage advisor Graham Medley who works for “ The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine today received a $40 million grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation”

440399 ▶▶▶ ShropshireLass, replying to crimsonpirate, 7, #692 of 1661 🔗

Surprise surprise. Pity 007 died last year. Would happily have contributed some of my savings towards a contract to hire him to ‘take out’ a certain person.

441392 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to ShropshireLass, #693 of 1661 🔗

Me too.

440701 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to kh1485, #694 of 1661 🔗

I love how right at the end they always state: we do not know yet if it is more infectious, more serious complications or deadly.


440369 Achilles, replying to Achilles, 31, #695 of 1661 🔗

12-18 year olds in England: approx. 4.5 million
Target number of lateral flow tests per week: 2
Total number of tests per week: 9 million
Lateral Flow Test published false positive rate: 0.36%
Projected false positives per week : 32,400

See the problem with mass testing of asymptomatic people?

440389 ▶▶ Achilles, replying to Achilles, 3, #696 of 1661 🔗

School of 1000 pupils, 2 tests a week. 7 pupils falsely testing positive per week.

440518 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Achilles, 3, #697 of 1661 🔗

The main problem is that most sheeple have conflated, “positive tests,” with deaths.

440370 Hoppy Uniatz, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 18, #698 of 1661 🔗

This one wrote itself.

Way down with the Brazilians
Covid strains grow by the millions
And the Government has got a jab to shill
There’s an awful lot of Covid in Brazil.

You can’t get hepatitis
Typhoid, flu or tonsilitis
There is only one thing now that makes you ill
There’s an awful lot of Covid in Brazil.

Until
It’s been quite suppressed
We’re still
Under house arrest
For ages all we’ve heard from SAGE is “No, no, no.”

It keeps proliferating
Even though we’re vaccinating
Like we’re all been told to do by Klaus and Bill
There’s an awful lot of Covid in Brazil.

440480 ▶▶ Melangell, replying to Hoppy Uniatz, 2, #699 of 1661 🔗

Totally brill – post again so you get more upticks because you deserve it. 🙂

440384 alw, 41, #700 of 1661 🔗

We’re still battling 🦠 COVID-19 🦠 , and the next thing is here already 🦠 🙄 🦠

The *NILE Virus, type C*

Virologists have identified a new Nile virus – type C.
It appears to target those who were born between 1940 & 1970

Symptoms:

1. Causes you to send the same message twice.
2. Causes you to send a blank message
3. Causes you to send a message to the wrong person.
4. Causes you to send it back to the person who sent it to you.
5. Causes you to forget to attach the attachment.
6. Causes you to hit SEND before you’ve finished.
7. Causes you to hit DELETE instead of SEND.
8. Causes you to SEND when you should DELETE.

It is called the *C-NILE* virus!

And if you can’t admit to doing the above, you’ve obviously caught the mutated strain —

The *D-NILE* virus.
🦠 🦠

440392 crimsonpirate, replying to crimsonpirate, 26, #701 of 1661 🔗

From the Telegraph “The Brazilian variant being hunted in the UK could slow the impact of the vaccine rollout in the UK, an Imperial College professor has suggested”

As you can imagine once Imperial College is mentioned I started to yawn.

440454 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to crimsonpirate, 11, #702 of 1661 🔗

As you can imagine once Imperial College is mentioned I started to yawn.

I reach for my machine gun. But hey, we’re all different. 🙂

440470 ▶▶▶ frankfrankly, replying to JohnB, 2, #703 of 1661 🔗

Have you got a spare machine gun please?

440879 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to JohnB, #704 of 1661 🔗

funnily enough I took a walk through Imperial College. Interesting to note I could see students inside, this after a walk through South Kensington where I noticed a book shop open.

440394 ShropshireLass, replying to ShropshireLass, 19, #705 of 1661 🔗

On the subject of vaccine passports are LS members aware of this consultation process, which runs until 11th March?: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework . Sounds fairly innocent on the surface, but it is actually phase 1 of the World Economic Forum’s Digital identity plan that can be found on their website under the Fourth Industrial Revolution section. Originally it proposed replacing handheld devices such as mobile phones with the digital ID app with microchips (2018) which have already been trialled in China, Germany and the USA. However, I believe Gates has lodged a patent through Microsoft to use nanochips that can be injected via a normal hypodermic syringe (as opposed to a special wide bore needle required for the microchip). I haven’t checked the international patent register myself but the patent number was shown in a World Doctor’s Alliance video as WO2020060606.

440529 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to ShropshireLass, 4, #706 of 1661 🔗

I don’t know if its this:

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606
WO2020060606 – CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA

Application by Microsoft

“Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.”

440554 ▶▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to LMS2, 2, #707 of 1661 🔗

I find it truly horrifying where this might lead. What would the tasks be? Would anything be off limits. Murder even? Most seem to have lost all common sense and morals would they do anything for their credits? I hope not humanity has to survive!

440398 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 18, #708 of 1661 🔗

That was quick .But it seems that Dr Baric with the help of Dr Fauci was developing a general corona vaccine or MERS vaccine. So before 31 st Dec 2019 it was already known that there were several C-19 variants circulating in Wuhan and prior to reporting the vaccine industry was already in the process of developing the vaccine even before the world was alerted. It would be strange if Fauci/Moderna was not aware of what was happening in Wuhan in Dec considering they have signed contract for a general corona vaccine with Wuhan lab. It would be of huge interest for Fauci/Moderna to know about a new corona virus to position themselves at forefront of vaccine development, well before anybody in the general public knew about this.

https://twitter.com/future8wire/status/1366317679162744843

“Wuhan already had 13 variants by 8 December 2019 the WHO team found – 4 days later on 12 Dec Baric who is strongly connected to the WIV lab in Wuhan signed a vaccine deal – however the world would not learn of the virus until 31 Dec 2019”

440406 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to swedenborg, 7, #709 of 1661 🔗

Blatant. Moving the pieces into place before hitting the red button

440402 Phillips13, replying to Phillips13, 1, #710 of 1661 🔗

Does anyone know the name of the “anti-lockdown” lawyer that TY has recommended before?

440404 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Phillips13, #711 of 1661 🔗

Francis Hoar?

440411 ▶▶▶ Phillips13, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 1, #712 of 1661 🔗

I think he was a solicitor. Remember it being advertised on the site a while back for anyone in need of advice.

440422 ▶▶▶▶ Mark, replying to Phillips13, 4, #713 of 1661 🔗

The one that was originally on the site was Tilbrooks. Someone here did confirm they gave good advice in the phone, and they do seem to be run by a sceptic:

https://www.tilbrookssolicitorsessex.co.uk/about

440428 ▶▶▶▶▶ Phillips13, replying to Mark, 1, #714 of 1661 🔗

Thank you.

440407 Banjones, replying to Banjones, 3, #715 of 1661 🔗

Has anyone ever seen the sign ”No mask? We won’t ask” poster in any retail premises?

440429 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Banjones, 11, #716 of 1661 🔗

We had a ‘No Masks in here’ sign. We were told off by the B’I’D chairwoman because it was apparently “frigtening people”.

440512 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to kh1485, 2, #717 of 1661 🔗

Any chance you could put up, “Masks at your discretion,” or would that be equally terrifying?

440523 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to kh1485, #718 of 1661 🔗

I can understand that.

The sign should have been a quote from the likes of Jenny Harries or Anthony Fauci, where they publicly said that masks don’t work.

440433 ▶▶ Tenchy, replying to Banjones, 7, #719 of 1661 🔗

Unfortunately not. But at Teesside Park (nr. Middlesbrough) yesterday the large matrix sign read “Don’t Make us Ask, Wear a Mask”. Bastards! And it wasn’t even related to a specific shop.

440462 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Tenchy, 7, #720 of 1661 🔗

Snap, but in one of our local barbers pre latest lockdown, they had and still have the notice:” If you are not wearing a mask, we assume that you are exempt”.
Fair enough!

440655 ▶▶ Sodastream, replying to Banjones, #721 of 1661 🔗

Never I’m sad to say

440708 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Banjones, #722 of 1661 🔗

We have a health food store just recently taken over by a lovely French couple, here in town.

440408 GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 13, #723 of 1661 🔗

I see Khant has just increased travel by 2.6% in London. Despicable little twat.

440413 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 10, #724 of 1661 🔗

This is more clarification behind todays update about the devastating lockdowns for the poor world from Sebstian Rushworth

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/03/01/lockdowns-have-killed-millions/

440437 ▶▶ swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 4, #725 of 1661 🔗

Swedish television 58 min programme about the price of lockdown.In Swedish but some interviews in English and graphs rather selfexplanatory.

https://www.svtplay.se/video/30291114/vetenskapens-varld/vetenskapens-varld-sasong-34-coronakampens-pris?start=auto

440420 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 12, #727 of 1661 🔗

Stunning admission: Mandatory quarantines too harsh for Ebola, “justified” for COVID, according to Dr. Fauci

Mandatory quarantines for healthcare workers fighting deadly Ebola virus deemed ‘questionable and unnecessary’ by Dr. Fauci

In case you don’t remember, there was an Ebola virus outbreak in West Africa from 2014 to 2016. The Ebola virus can cause a potentially fatal disease with a reported death rate of 25% to up to 90%. Even the low end of that spectrum is exponentially higher than the current estimated death rates of COVID-19, which according to a recent analysis out of Johns Hopkins, is less than 2% in the United States .

Nevertheless, in a 2014 interview with NBC News, Dr. Fauci urged state officials to avoid mandatory quarantines for healthcare workers returning to the U.S. after helping with the Ebola crisis in West Africa. “You don’t have to put [returning healthcare workers] in a confined place,” he says, after stating that socially isolating people who aren’t sick could lead to “unintended consequences.”

In other words:

In 2014, Dr. Fauci suggested that the use of mandatory quarantines for healthcare workers returning from the front line of an extremely deadly epidemic was too harsh. Fast-forward to 2021, and Fauci and officials are now endorsing strict mandatory quarantines – even for people who aren’t sick – for a virus that is far less deadly, according to current evidence.

https://www.naturalhealth365.com/mandatory-quarantines-covid-ebola-3743.html

440481 ▶▶ DavidC, replying to Victoria, 3, #728 of 1661 🔗

Terrific spot, Victoria!

DavidC

440423 kh1485, replying to kh1485, 5, #729 of 1661 🔗

Yep, it’s Hancock’s half-hour this afternoon …

440427 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to kh1485, 10, #730 of 1661 🔗

presumably he will be bringing a pair of oars as normally when he does the briefings he ends up having to row back. Hopefully one day soon he will end up shit creek

440446 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to kh1485, 5, #731 of 1661 🔗

There’s no cure for Hancock’s half hour – I’ve tried everything…

440527 ▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to kh1485, #732 of 1661 🔗

Aahh another round of governments idiotic properganda known as GIP for short.
He surely makes me gip every time I see him

440424 Jonathan Smith, 6, #733 of 1661 🔗

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/03/01/lockdowns-have-killed-millions/

Good blogpost from Sebastian Rishworth in Sweden. Points to an interesting Swedish documentary too.

440425 crimsonpirate, replying to crimsonpirate, 9, #734 of 1661 🔗

from the Guardian which otherwise is gushing over the news that the Brazilian variant might push things back
“Tokyo has requested Beijing to stop taking anal swab tests for Covid-19 on Japanese citizens as the procedure causes psychological pain, a government spokesman said on Monday.” I guess they don’t like it up ’em!

440478 ▶▶ DavidC, replying to crimsonpirate, 4, #735 of 1661 🔗

To be honest I think I’d rather have a swab stuck up my rectum than at the back of my nasophryngeal tract. Not that I intend having either if I can avoid them.

DavidC

440506 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to crimsonpirate, 2, #736 of 1661 🔗

Revenge for Manchuria.

440511 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to awildgoose, 5, #737 of 1661 🔗

The Chinese have apologised to an American government delegation for carrying out anal swabs.
I strongly suspect it’s about humiliation and trolling more than anything else.

440567 ▶▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to LMS2, #738 of 1661 🔗

Revenge for what the Chinese call, “the century of humiliation:”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation

440426 steve_w, 10, #739 of 1661 🔗

All cause daily death data is shown below.

We had a discussion here a few days ago about why the 2SD and 3SD lines are so much lower this year than last year. It makes our current mortality stand out more.

It turns out the SD lines are created from only 5 years of data and in the new year, an old (high mortality) year dropped out of the calculation.

Of course if you publish the SDs with more years you will get wider bands.

I contacted PHE to get previous years daily data and they told me “ we are unable to provide it to the public prior to 2020″. I assume for the reason that it makes current mortality look normal

440430 wendyk, replying to wendyk, 25, #740 of 1661 🔗

Electrician called this morning to do installation condition check.

’No need to wear a mask here, I don’t wear one’ followed my greeting.

He gladly accepted,removed the gag, enjoyed a cup of heretic’s coffee, then set to work.

2 hours later, all done, no health risks or imminent meltdowns apparent.

He and his wife, both Polish, were confined to the Canary Islands for 2 months- no great hardship- as quarantines imposed when they were due to return home just after Christmas.

Mean temperature out there about 68 degrees F; all shops open, no panic, very few masks.

Pretty much the same in Poland apparently.

His wife needs to fly home regularly to stay with her very poorly father in Lodz, but flights to Poland are only operating now from Edinburgh; flights from Glasgow suspended.

Why is Edinburgh safe while Glasgow isn’t?

Why does sanity appear to prevail in Poland and the Canaries but not here?

440474 ▶▶ DavidC, replying to wendyk, 4, #741 of 1661 🔗

Very pertinent questions Wendy!

DavidC

440534 ▶▶ Alice, replying to wendyk, 2, #742 of 1661 🔗

They had years of totalitarian government in Poland, so they know how to live with arbitrary rules and propaganda.

440434 popo says, 14, #743 of 1661 🔗

On Sunday night Ken Marsh, the Chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, which represents rank and file officers in the UK’s biggest force, said his members had no desire to carry out the law to the letter.

That’s funny, because they never did have much luck sticking to that ‘letter’ of the law

440442 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 7, #744 of 1661 🔗

8 year old child wants to write a letter to the government about these stupid rules going back to school

440492 ▶▶ disgruntled246, replying to Victoria, 1, #745 of 1661 🔗

You are doing a good job then, a child with critical thinking skills.

440447 frankfrankly, replying to frankfrankly, 29, #746 of 1661 🔗

The 2011 Influenza Pandemic Preparation Plan is worth looking at because it so rational, calm and sensible, and it stresses proprtionality and ethical action-https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/213717/dh_131040.pdf

It never advised quarantining the well, general masking or mass testing, stressed business as normal and the necessity of a Recovery Stage for getting back to complete normal asap. Of course this was tossed out the window at the modellers’ insistence.

440451 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to frankfrankly, 3, #747 of 1661 🔗

does anybody know where these modellers get their funding from?

440464 ▶▶▶ frankfrankly, replying to Major Panic, 3, #748 of 1661 🔗

Imperial and Warwick are universities but Prof. Fearguson has expressed the desire to set up a research institute with colleagues. That is presumably why the IMP. website has a feature on modelling which puts F. centre stage and looks like a glossy brochure-
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/stories/coronavirus-modelling/

The 2011 Plan also stressed that there was often not a right answer and that the widest scientific consultation was preferred. That soon went out the window too.

440505 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Major Panic, 5, #749 of 1661 🔗

Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation?

440564 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Major Panic, #750 of 1661 🔗

in this case it looks as though they were directly funded by Government

440487 ▶▶ GCarty80, replying to frankfrankly, #751 of 1661 🔗

It seems like none of the pre-2020 guidance on respiratory pandemics by Western governments (or the WHO) ever considered the kind of elimination approach adopted by East Asian countries for Covid-19 (and later adopted successfully by Australia and NZ and unsuccessfully by most of the Western world).

I don’t think the issue is a fundamental difference between coronaviruses and flu viruses, as AFAIK East Asian countries would have used the same approach against a flu pandemic. Perhaps what really made the difference was that the West’s worst-case scenario was the Spanish flu of 1918, while East Asian countries had relatively recent experience with even deadlier respiratory viruses?

Let’s compare some IFR values for various flus and coronaviruses:

  • Swine flu (worldwide, 2009): Less than 0.1%
  • Covid-19 (worldwide, 2020-1): 0.8%
  • Spanish flu (worldwide, 1918-20): 2.4%
  • SARS (mostly East Asia, 2002-4): 9.6%
  • MERS (South Korea, 2015): 20%
  • H7N9 flu (China, 2013-2017): 40%

Incidentally the reason why Western pandemic preparation was so focused on flu is because flu’s interchangeable H and N proteins give it an unparalleled ability to evade immunity (which is why flu vaccinations are only good for a year).

440583 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to GCarty80, 2, #752 of 1661 🔗

I think you’re misleading people here. H7N9 is an avian flu. It’s very difficult to pass person to person. It’s nothing like normal human flu or SARS. You can control H7N9 quite easily.

We don’t know for sure but the likelihood is that the ability of East Asian countries to cope well with Covid 19 must be something to do with cross immunity. If you believe the fairy tales about test and trace and early lockdown, feel free. Japan had no national lockdown but had an extremely vulnerable (in theory) elderly population – they haven’t had the problems we’ve had with our national lockdown.

IFR rates of themselves don’t tell you much. You need to know how many people are infected, how infectious the spread is and how seriously ill people become. The figure for Spanish flu is very misleading because it doesn’t communicate that whole populations near enough were infected. In some places the IFR was 70% (Samoa) and that many young and fit people fell seriously ill or died. So it wasn’t a cull of very ill or very old people.

440656 ▶▶▶▶ eastender53, replying to OKUK, 1, #753 of 1661 🔗

Japan also has a massively healthier population (even the old) with a high average Vit D level.

441341 ▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to frankfrankly, #754 of 1661 🔗

interesting in that they seem convinced there will be a vaccine ready 4-6 months after the pandemic is declared. It explains why the Govt bet the house on a vaccine especially as the Astrazeneca one went into production in Feb 20 ie before lockdown. Also interesting is the discounting of medical treatments. Also an admission that no cost/benefit analysis was done. Without this, Ferguson was able to interject his dodgy model without opposition. Were this done today I’m sure the Philip Thomas ( Bristol )study on lockdowns would be a sufficient counter weight argument.

440449 steve_w, 35, #755 of 1661 🔗

Met some old friends a few months ago before lockdown 2. They were quite sceptical. Contacted them a few days ago suggesting a meet up and walk. They said that would be nice and they’ll just go and check the regulations timeline to see when its possible. Give me strength – these are supposed to be grown adults!

440456 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 34, #756 of 1661 🔗

Beeb live bollocks:

Vaccine on its own is ‘insufficient’

Health officials are trying urgently to trace someone in the UK who’s tested positive for the coronavirus variant that first emerged in northern Brazil. Scientists are concerned the variant may be more transmissible than the original virus, and more resistant to a vaccine.

Prof Stephen Reicher, social psychologist and Sage adviser, told BBC Radio 5 Live that despite the variant being “no more deadly” nor “causing more damage” than the original virus, “it does seem to be more infectious and at this stage we don’t know whether it can evade the vaccine or not”.

He said the public needed to do everything it could to stop transmitting the infection and the government needed to have more effective control of the borders.

“While [the vaccine] is great news, on its own, it’s insufficient because if we don’t stop the reproduction of the virus, there’s always a danger of new variants that will undermine the vaccine,” he added.

“We’ve got to combine the vaccine strategy with an infection suppression strategy… we haven’t put enough emphasis on this.”

Translation: the vaccine doesn’t actually do anything.

440460 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Ceriain, 21, #757 of 1661 🔗

That’s about as clear as you can get isn’t it? So, what percentage of the population still think that the vaccine will be their route to freedom?

440654 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to godowneasy, 6, #758 of 1661 🔗

All the stupid ones.About 90%.

440471 ▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to Ceriain, 8, #759 of 1661 🔗

no more deadly” nor “causing more damage” than the original virus

Plus the new scariant being rolled out isn’t so scary after all

440475 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Ceriain, 7, #760 of 1661 🔗

It is NOT a vaccine but an experimental drug and it has done lots of things – killed thousands, injured tens of thousands……

440479 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Ceriain, 8, #761 of 1661 🔗

And SAGE never know anything useful – every statement is caveated with “might” and “could” except for statement saying we need more lockdown, which are always definite

440484 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Ceriain, 9, #762 of 1661 🔗

Sad – Tobes slipped into the vaccine fly trap, thought it was a game-changer. Now he’s trapped there. “You can’t lift lockdown because that could compromise the vaccination campaign if you let in new variants.”

440508 ▶▶▶ John001, replying to OKUK, 1, #763 of 1661 🔗

Under natural selection, viruses will mutate to become on average more infectious and less deadly.

Where’s the evidence by now of SARS CoV 2 becoming less harmful? There must be trustworthy sources of information, i.e. after excluding Imperial College, LSHTM, etc.

440556 ▶▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to John001, 1, #764 of 1661 🔗

before Mike Yeadon was silenced on twitter there was a tweet stating that the virus has a sequence of roughly 10,000 (whatever unit of measurement) and that mutant variants to date had only mutated at most 17 of the 10,000. It was concluded that the existing vaccines could sufficiently deal with these variants as there were such a small proportion and minor tweaking would not be necessary but could be done.
Wished I’d saved that tweet.

440590 ▶▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to John001, 2, #765 of 1661 🔗

But they’ve b*ggered up natural selection by putting a highly unnatural policy in place – social distancing and lockdown – thus putting extreme selective pressure on the virus to become more transmissible.

Which it has – if you believe their scaremongering rubbish that is.

440516 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to OKUK, 1, #766 of 1661 🔗

I think TY just hoped that the vaccine rollout would give the govt enough cover to declare victory and move on. Not unreasonable, though personally I think it’s a mistake to accept that the vaccine changes anything.

As regards variants, I don’t see how it compromises the vaccination campaign, or if it does then the vaccines are useless and not the way out (which we knew) as variants can develope everywhere. As usual, the enemy get to use completely illogical arguments and no-one calls them out on it.

440586 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Ceriain, 4, #767 of 1661 🔗

So it’s the first vaccine in the history of time that still requires the disease to be suppressed. So much for the trumpeting cavalry hooves of sunlit freedom.

440732 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Ceriain, 1, #768 of 1661 🔗

social psychologist and Sage adviser”,
Why do we listen to these psycho-creeps

440810 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Ceriain, #769 of 1661 🔗

Seeing as my last reply appears to have been deleted – I’ll just say – another damn psychologist.

440466 Fingerache Philip, 8, #770 of 1661 🔗

Does the Brazilian variant have a bikini line?
OH, SORRY I AM BEING SEXIST AND TRANSPHOBIC.
I will straight away find some sackcloth and ashes.

440468 Crystal Decanter, replying to Crystal Decanter, 11, #771 of 1661 🔗

Sage have confirmed that the new Brazilian variant has been traced back to the island of Hy-Brasil

Ferguson has crunched the numbers and the mythical island definitely does exist – his model said so

440652 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Crystal Decanter, 1, #772 of 1661 🔗

Passed on by magic as black as Merlin can make it.

440472 Harry hopkins, replying to Harry hopkins, 36, #773 of 1661 🔗

Just a quick word on the accusation of being a ‘virus denier’.

It seems to me, in a world of sense, intelligence and a thirst for knowledge that this accusation is, of itself, completely disingenuous. Surely the onus is not on us to prove that the virus does not exist but rather on those who would lock us up, destroy our livelihoods, banish our freedoms and to change our very existence to prove that the virus does exist. This they have singularly and utterly failed to do.

Across the world there is no proof at all of the existence of Sars-cov-2 much less of the disease Covid 19 that it purports to spawn. The only thing that has been proven is that if you scare people long enough and hard enough they will believe anything and as I have found out these past months, it is pointless to argue with irrational fear as people in this state of high anxiety are beyond reason.
A few things that have been brought home to me with great force of late:

*You cannot argue with stupid people because they will always beat you with experience.

*It is much easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.

*The way out of fear is to switch off the TV/radio news—completely and totally— and never read any of the mainstream papers—ever!

Personally speaking I’m not a virus denier. To deny something you have to disagree with its existence. I don’t believe it exists which makes me, I say with not much humility, a rational, thinking, enquiring and independent spirit much imbued with a high degree of common sense.

440483 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Harry hopkins, 4, #774 of 1661 🔗

Great post
So true

440486 ▶▶ DavidC, replying to Harry hopkins, 9, #775 of 1661 🔗

I love that first quote Harry. “You cannot argue with stupid people because they will always beat you with experience”.

DavidC

440490 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Harry hopkins, 9, #776 of 1661 🔗

I was thinking about this the other day. If one devised a PCR test for tree pollen, it’s highly likely that you’d find that pollen in the upper respiratory tract of many people, especially at certain times of year. It doesn’t necessarily mean that this pollen is causing any problems though. Does make me wonder if SARS-CoV-2 may actually be benign.

440498 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to leggy, 8, #777 of 1661 🔗

I don’t believe SARS-COV-2 is completely benign. I’m sure it does cause serious infection in some people, but not all people.
It’s the fact that a “case” is no longer defined as someone with symptoms who is tested and found to have a particular virus causing the symptoms, as per the last hundred plus years, but is now, for this new virus and no other, defined as a positive test result, using a technology that can detect a single molecule or single viral particle, and not necessarily any symptoms.
That’s the fraudulent bit, not that the virus doesn’t exist. It’s been made out to be far, far worse than it really is.

440542 ▶▶▶▶ leggy, replying to LMS2, 4, #778 of 1661 🔗

Could be. But equally, people could be getting ill from something completely different that is not being tested for (perhaps such as flu). Whilst the whole while, testing for SARS-CoV-2 acts a huge smokescreen for it. It’s a thought.

440648 ▶▶▶▶▶ eastender53, replying to leggy, 4, #779 of 1661 🔗

Remember, we don’t know what the PCR test actually tests for. The Primer that Drosten created was made from the bits of a sequence the Chinese gave him plus bits that he thought were about right, probably flu like. It could well be picking up flu virus, which is why when lab cultures are grown they come back as Influenza A or B.

440806 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ leggy, replying to eastender53, #780 of 1661 🔗

Yep, there’s that too. Still waiting to hear more about Delores Cahill’s 1,500 samples that came back as flu.

440574 ▶▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to leggy, 3, #781 of 1661 🔗

Most virus have some sort of ability to hang on in the body without causing infections. The chicken pox/shingles virus is probably the best virus at doing this but most can do it to some extent. Certain areas of your body, e.g. reproductive organs, brain etc have a limited immunity response and some virus can ‘hole out ‘ in these areas. Also, as you say, it is quite likely that in some cases respiratory coronaviruses can hang on in the upper respiratory tract without doing anything.
Biology is random and variable and there is never a black and white answer hence mathematical modelling and biology are uneasy bedfellows.

Official Covid policy seems to assume the virus is either going full throttle causing Covid disease or has completely gone away but this may not be the case and there could be an in-between holding stage.
If, as seems quite likely SARS-Cov2 can at times ‘hole up’ in the body doing nothing then the idea of ‘zero covid’ does become the road to madness.

440502 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Harry hopkins, 3, #782 of 1661 🔗

The official WHO timeline only states China released the sequence in January 2020.

There is nothing on the official timeline indicating Cv19 was ever isolated.

440473 Crystal Decanter, 4, #783 of 1661 🔗

Wouldn’t leave your kids around that one

440482 Sam Vimes, replying to Sam Vimes, 39, #784 of 1661 🔗

Every Friday night, I have a running text conversation with a mate. Ordinary, sensible working lad. It centres on what we’re drinking and what we’re listening to, music recommendations for each other and so on, but also branching off into chat and some bizarre comedy. He mentioned the other night that he’d booked a UK holiday, early June. I said sory mate, but it won’t happen, they won’t let go of this – make sure you can get your money back.
He said he’d checked that and was crossing everything and hoping. Here’s the key part of the conversation:

Me: “ Conversation for another time, but I spend a lot of time looking at the facts (not the lies the fat twat on the telly tells you), and the future’s not bright

Him: “ So you’ve been reading a load of made up conspiracy theory bullshit on the internet? No fucker knows the facts apart from a virus has killed thousands of people…

What’s worse than his own ignorance is the insult to my intelligence – he knows me; he knows I’m not a bullshitter, and I said I’d been looking at *facts*.

I took the coward’s way out, went silent for a bit then changed the subject.

Any way, within three days of that convo, we’ve had VT saying don’t have any fun, another ‘variant’ and Wancock delivering more doom tonight.

Conspiracy theory bullshit, eh, mate?

440488 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Sam Vimes, 7, #785 of 1661 🔗

Why don’t you tell him that?

440509 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to jb12, 13, #786 of 1661 🔗

There’s none so deaf as those who don’t want to hear.

440520 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Fingerache Philip, 11, #787 of 1661 🔗

This. They don’t want to believe it. Their ego is too fragile

440494 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Sam Vimes, 21, #788 of 1661 🔗

“Three weeks to flatten the curve.”

The BBC has presence on the internet. Is that “conspiracy theory bullshit”?

Is Carl Heneghan a conspiracy theorist?
Sunetra Gupta?
Mike Yeadon?

Why are clinical psychologists on SAGE making decisions and announcements, and their word is taken as gospel, and immunologists, virologists, experts in respiratory infections are ignored, vilified, and accused of being conspiracy theorists?

441246 ▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to LMS2, 1, #789 of 1661 🔗

Dr Reiner Fuellmich has the answer, please google him..

440499 ▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Sam Vimes, 11, #790 of 1661 🔗

Tell him to send you a picture of the bodies stacked like cordwood outside the local hospital.

440514 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Sam Vimes, 12, #791 of 1661 🔗

To be fair there are people new to navigating this kind of stuff. I’ve always searched for the alternative take on the headlines but it’s murky. You don’t have time for everything and I see people now waking up to PCR for example and saying “Check this out, these tests are nonsense.” I’ve been writing to my MP since summer telling him that.

However there are others who take such a revelation and have gone off the reserve with no supplies. They are immediately down the rabbit hole of many fringe discussions. There is no filter. You have to create that yourself. They return telling people everything at once. Links to all sorts, no context, it’s a diahorrea of info never before encountered.

So maybe this friend is defensive having encountered such a person. That a small thing about testing has suddenly gone tbe way of Bill Gates taking over every aspect of your life. He’s got you in that bracket and the media have done a good job supporting him to do so.

I have a similar friend who dismissed my references to Carl Henegen and PCR in summer. I told him about Karly Mullis and his warning about using PCR. Full Fact had my friend’s back on that one so I lost him there.

He called me a MAGA supporter. Even now, after the Lancet dismissed PCR as any kind of gold standard this week, he’s buried in. I don’t concern myself with saving him but every time the media catches up, I send him something to remind him that this is not ‘temporary’ as he always claimed.

They will only believe when it is in front of them. However, they’ll have been set up enough to accept the narrative even then.

440526 ▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Sam Vimes, 3, #792 of 1661 🔗

I think that response he has given is extremely ignorant in it’s tone and point. Does he always talk to you like that?

440528 ▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to Sam Vimes, 18, #793 of 1661 🔗

I had a similar conversation with a friend about 10 days ago. He has had his jab – in spite of multiple links I sent him over the months demonstrating why it wasn’t a good idea, and which he himself said were “shocking”. He said he had the jab to ensure he would be able to go on his solo week’s holiday to Italy on 17 May – it is purely a tourist visit, no family ties involved to exert pressure. I told him he could forget the holiday. Him: “Why do you say that?” Me: “You wait. Schoolchildren to be tested…massive rise in positives of a new variant which will have just been found in the country….possibly not affected by ‘the vaccine’…’roadmap’ put on hold and further draconian lockdowns imposed”. I added “Remember you heard it here first!”

440489 LMS2, replying to LMS2, 19, #794 of 1661 🔗

https://unredacted.co.uk/2021/02/26/poll-do-you-support-vaccine-passports/

Unredacted poll results:
We asked thousands of people whether they support vaccine passports.

The results are in…

8,731 people completed the poll.

12.56% (1,097) of people DO support vaccine passports.
87.44% (7,634) of people DO NOT support vaccine passports.

I don’t know if the poll is still open. Check it out in the link above.

440537 ▶▶ isobar, replying to LMS2, 4, #795 of 1661 🔗

Still open until midnight tonight

440496 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 11, #796 of 1661 🔗

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/03/01/prince-philip-health-update-duke-edinburgh-transferred-second/

Prince Philip health update: Duke of Edinburgh transferred to second hospital in ambulance

The Duke, 99, was taken from King Edward VII’s Hospital to St Bartholomew’s where he is expected to stay until at least the end of next week

That’s old Phil had it: Barts has the worst Covid death toll in the whole of London.

440504 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Ceriain, 8, #797 of 1661 🔗

Not enough adrenochrome in hospital number 1

440524 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Ceriain, 4, #798 of 1661 🔗

Wasn’t that where Johnson went? He survived but is also over four decades younger.

440552 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Waldorf, 1, #799 of 1661 🔗

That was Guy’s and St. Thomas’ NHS Trust.

440500 godowneasy, 12, #800 of 1661 🔗

The true COVID denialists are those pushing a zero COVID approach because they are in denial that their approach is unworkable. According to GRIPT media:

“Covid won’t kill our society but the crazed pursuit of lockdown is doing just that. There is a denial abroad, but it is not what you might think, the zero covid proponents are deniers of basic reality. In this world where a manic and deceitful single-minded pursuit of an impossible aim, without any thought as to the collateral damage endured by the entire society, these lockdown enthusiasts who would have us terrified of Covid, are clearly the real “deniers”

Worth reading:
https://gript.ie/the-covid-deniers-have-to-take-their-heads-out-of-the-sand/

440515 Ken Garoo, replying to Ken Garoo, 38, #801 of 1661 🔗

If taking the jab is a condition of employment, then all side effects should be considered work-related injuries. The employee should ask to see a copy of the risk assessment prior to going along with this BS. That should go down well the the jabbers.

440576 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Ken Garoo, 3, #802 of 1661 🔗

Give this document to employers

OPEN LETTER re VACCINATION MANDATES BY EMPLOYERS FOR EMPLOYEES OR POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/6034d75d99ca064068db36c5_UKMFA_L4L_Workers_Union-Employers_Vaccine_Open_Letter.pdf

440519 Polonium1806, 5, #803 of 1661 🔗

https://spectator.sme.sk/c/22598901/coronavirus-in-slovakia-what-is-going-on.html?ref=njctse Incredible admission from some Slovakian mathematician stating that in regards to covid they know..nothing.

440521 Sampa, replying to Sampa, 69, #804 of 1661 🔗

So here we are in March 2021, a date that should have been significant for me personally, so please forgive a little selfish rumination.

Way back before all this crap started and shortly after my wife passed away I started planning my retirement. Looking at the numbers and the fact that I now receive my forces pension, I pencilled in March 2021 as the date I would come back to the UK to see out the rest of my days living on a narrow-boat cruising the canals. With my pension, savings and employment benefits from Brazil I worked out that I could get through to government pension age (UK and Brazil) without any hardship.

Then Covid happened. I was fortunate that I kept my job, although with a salary reduction, but the lucrative offshore trips dried up as demand for oil dropped and platforms were put on care and maintenance. That put a bit of a hole in the numbers, but nothing that couldn’t be overcome. Then the restrictions started over there, and coming back started to look a little more complex. My family in the UK are all true believers so contact has been slowly reduced to little more than electronic birthday cards.

In Brazil necessity forced many people to completely ignore any restrictions, our police won’t issue fines, and life essentially goes on with Covid in the background. That’s not really surprising when we also have dengue, zika, chikungunya, yellow fever and good old malaria to contend with, nasty diseases are part of life.

Now there is talk over there of vaccine passports to go to the pub some time in the distant future, compulsory quarantine on arrival, no jab no job and any other dumb idea the government can come up with. Comparing that dystopian idea with what I have now inevitably leads to one conclusion. Despite dropping into a more restrictive tier I can still go out for a beer or a meal. I can go shopping whenever I want, go fishing for fun, ride my bike wherever I feel like, and see my lovely partner whenever we like. (OK, she rides a Harley, but nobody’s perfect).

Why would I come back to the UK? Permanent lockdown with new variations on demand, police harassment for being outdoors, movement restrictions? Well, this weekend my partner and I started looking at houses in Santa Catarina and I think that has pretty much settled my future.

Sorry but the UK today is not the UK I grew up in, and not the UK I want to grow old in.

440634 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Sampa, 15, #805 of 1661 🔗

Man, stay right where you are and count your many blessings!

440717 ▶▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Annie, 4, #806 of 1661 🔗

I’ll second that!

441415 ▶▶ james007, replying to Sampa, 2, #807 of 1661 🔗

Although it’s not what you planned, it sounds like Brazil is a much better option.
The UK has been in terminal decline for a while. I continue to try to persuade my family we need to get out.
All the best

440522 Tenchy, replying to Tenchy, 16, #808 of 1661 🔗

What is this new level of depravity to which the world has sunk?

From The Telegraph (paywall):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/01/johnson-johnson-test-new-one-shot-covid-19-vaccine-babies/

Johnson & Johnson plans to test its new one-shot coronavirus vaccine in infants and even in newborns, executives have told the US government.

The drug giant will also test its jab on pregnant women and those with compromised immune systems.

The proposals are thought to be the first to announce trials of a vaccine in infants, but come as drug developers prepare a flurry of research in how jabs work on children.

440525 ▶▶ Ken Garoo, replying to Tenchy, 22, #809 of 1661 🔗

The experimental vaccine is explicitly marked as not to be used on anyone less than 16 years. Any medic that goes along with this should have their licence to practice revoked.

440540 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Tenchy, 10, #810 of 1661 🔗

Every single person in this country and worldwide who has not said no to any of the narrative, is to blame for the actions Johnson and Johnson take in addition to other “vaccine” companies and governments. By not saying no these people have silently said yes to the most appalling actions. Sometimes saying nothing in life is the best course of action but there are also many times in life when saying something very loudly through words and actions is needed. So many people have failed to grasp that. Anyone who in the future states this is wrong, where were they when it really mattered.

440560 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to Tenchy, 8, #811 of 1661 🔗

Yes because that company is completely trustworthy when it comes to products aimed at babies and infants…

440577 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Tenchy, 8, #812 of 1661 🔗

More importantly, what sort of person would allow an experimental substance to be injected into their newborn child?!

440626 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Tenchy, 4, #813 of 1661 🔗

They are already damaging newborns with the Hepatitis B vaccination saying that it would protect them if the mother has Hep B and she does not know it. Much safer and cheaper to test the mothers for Hep B before they give birth and then only vaccinate the newborns of those positive mothers. The NHS will not consider this safer option.

CDC’s ‘Universal’ Recommendations for Infant Hep B Vaccine Not Based on Science, But Assumptions

Evidence of Neurological Harm from the HepB Vaccine

While we’re told that the hepatitis B vaccine is a “crucial shot” for infants, the reality is that the vast majority of children are not at significant risk of infection.

The CDC’s recommendation to vaccinate newborns universally was not based on science , but on the assumptions that the vaccine would effectively reduce HBV-related liver disease mortality and—to paraphrase the words of FDA microbiologist Richard Daemer—would be incapable of causing harm to pregnant women’s developing fetuses or newborn babies.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/cdcs-universal-recommendations-for-infant-hep-b-vaccine-not-based-on-science-but-assumptions/

440631 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Tenchy, 3, #814 of 1661 🔗

WHAAAAAAAAAT???

440869 ▶▶▶ RichardJames, replying to Annie, #815 of 1661 🔗

The idea is to inject new-borns because a) this means that the cost of the vaccine will be paid to the drug companies as part of the outrageous number of vaccinations routinely given to babies; and b) how can you reject or refuse a vaccine if you are less than a year old.

This does of course beg the question as to the commonsense of the parents, but virtually no-one refuses the vaccines given to babies.

Which is the whole idea.

440530 The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 18, #816 of 1661 🔗

Completed the Unredacted poll for vaccine passports there. I was then asked the following questions:-

Please ‘REPLY’ to this message and let us know your thoughts on:

  1. The idea of vaccine passports
  2. The government’s response to COVID-19
  3. The issues facing our nation

1. These are discriminatory and a massive erosion of civil liberties and human rights. Not acceptable. I also feel that they will be annoying – having to show ‘proof’ is an extra hassle for people and, given viruses tend to mutate, surely regular ‘mandatory’ vaccines will be needed forevermore. For something which is only deadly to a tiny part of the population. Absolutely ridiculous.

2. The government’s response to COVID-19 has been vastly overproportionate.

3. The country has been massively morally, economically, and societally compromised. I fear this malaise may persist for many years, if not forever. The UK is also, broadly speaking, bitterly divided between those in support of the restrictions for emotional reasons and those against them for logical reasons.

440531 liztr835, 13, #817 of 1661 🔗

Just thought I would post a link to a book just published, called “Excluded Voices” by Stephen Liddell.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/%C2%A3xcluded-Voices-stories-injustice-Covid-19-ebook/dp/B08XC79Z68/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=excluded+voices&qid=1614605556&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

I am nothing to do with the book, but linking it here because it is about the people who were excluded from all government help during the pandemic, like me. I think it’s really important more people know about the total injustice and terrible consequences of the Furlough and SEISS schemes not covering everyone.

440533 Jo Starlin, 7, #818 of 1661 🔗

All cause mortality (not adjusted, calibrated etc, just the crude total) was lower in January 2021 than in 2018 in both Scotland and Northern Ireland.

440535 Ceriain, 3, #819 of 1661 🔗

“3 times 8… 3 times 8… no, I do know this, give me another minute.”

440536 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 11, #820 of 1661 🔗

A new article saying the now obvious. Aerosol transmission is the main transmission, surface transmission extremely rare. This explains that the epidemic is un-stoppable. No mask can stop either inhaling minute aerosol particles as well as not stopping you transmitting them whilst breathing. It is true that main aerosol particles reach 2 metres but some will spread up to 6 m.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.23.21252022v1

SARS-CoV-2 detection and genomic sequencing from hospital surface samples collected at UC Davis
“There is little doubt that aerosols play a major role in the transmission of SARS-CoV-2. This study confirms the low likelihood that SARS-CoV-2 contamination on hospital surfaces contains infectious virus, disputing the importance of fomites in COVID-19 transmission.”

440539 ▶▶ Winston Smith, replying to swedenborg, 3, #821 of 1661 🔗

Pointless, faith trumps fact…..

440558 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to swedenborg, 9, #822 of 1661 🔗

The main transmission vector is via the aerosols in government and media.

440628 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 5, #823 of 1661 🔗

Aeros…holes.

440731 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Annie, 1, #824 of 1661 🔗

Thems the very ones Annie.

440799 ▶▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to Annie, 1, #825 of 1661 🔗

… which explains the use of anal swabs, I suppose.

440575 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to swedenborg, 3, #826 of 1661 🔗

Sadly this will probably just encourage SAGE to advocate for compulsory air-tight hazmat suits whenever we leave the house (on pain of death) and 6m social distancing. I seem to remember the 6m thing being floated a few weeks ago, presumably it didn’t go down well.

440779 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to A. Contrarian, #827 of 1661 🔗

A member of SAGE has been saying today that once the restrictions have been lifted we will have to go ‘backwards’ again!

441033 ▶▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Jo Dominich, #828 of 1661 🔗

Yes I saw that… Those SAGE numpties need to be permanently silenced.

440541 Lockdown Sceptic, 5, #829 of 1661 🔗

Industry Must Fight Back Or Die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHDC4dLTTMk

Godfrey Bloom Official

440543 kenadams, replying to kenadams, 17, #830 of 1661 🔗

I’m interested to see how the government balance the twin but contradictory messages of ‘you must take the vaccine’ and ‘mutant strains mean the vaccine doesn’t work so you must still SD/mask etc’. It’s going to be a difficult balancing act for them. If it does all start to fall apart over the spring/summer, I predict it will be linked to those two messages in some way.

440555 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to kenadams, 14, #831 of 1661 🔗

They’ll be advocating the Great Barrington Declaration, 12 months later than expected.

Then we can sack and maybe jail SAGE who roundly dismissed the idea of any kind of policy like it.

440596 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to kenadams, 4, #832 of 1661 🔗

Absolutely. As they might say in the US, – this is the ball game right here. If a few people start questioning this, or even someone in Parliament, it won’t take long to get Hancock tied up:
“Health Secretary, we in the house ask, on behalf of our constituents, & those close to us, should we get the vaccine? and why?”
“Yes you should. to protect those close to you, your loved ones”
“But our loved ones are totally locked away & cannot see any others”
“yes. that’s right.”
“So why should they get the vaccine?”
“erm..how dare you challenge me like this! I will not take it any more! Prime Minister help!”

440545 Inlakesh, replying to Inlakesh, 7, #833 of 1661 🔗

Dr Astrid Stückelberger : Total immunity of Bill Gates through GAVI Vaccine Alliance

[Qualified diplomatic immunity].

440822 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Inlakesh, 2, #834 of 1661 🔗

And the web of intrigue and criminality surrounding the WHO, GAVI and Gates gets even larger.

Definitely worth watching.

440944 ▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Richy_m_99, 1, #835 of 1661 🔗

As a summary. There is evidence that Bill Gates, unsuccessfully attempted to get himself onto the board of the WHO with the same status as a member state. Having been unsuccessful, he is using his financial influence in other ways. His organisation, GAVI, has absolute immunity from investigation and prosecution in Switzerland. Additionally, the Swiss medical authorities have signed an agreement of immunity from prosecution, which is co-signed by BOTH the WHO and Bill Gates.

The suspicions is that other countries have done similar deals which have included Gates under the umbrellla of the WHO for immunity from criminal activity.

441079 ▶▶▶▶ ShropshireLass, replying to Richy_m_99, 1, #836 of 1661 🔗

SH*T

441347 ▶▶▶▶ Inlakesh, replying to Richy_m_99, #837 of 1661 🔗

An excellent synopsis.Thank you for taking the time.

All the very best.

440553 Silke David, replying to Silke David, 6, #838 of 1661 🔗

It occurred to me today that talk about the roadmap always includes backgardens.
Can I meet my friend in the front garden?

Last year we even had advice that visitors to our backgarden should not go through the house.
Do we have to hide that we have visitors from our neighbours by having them at the back?

440565 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Silke David, 12, #839 of 1661 🔗

The government knows full well that control is lost once they allow access to back gardens.

If it gets a bit too cold or rainy, or conversely too hot and sunny, or someone needs the loo, or the home owner needs to pop inside for something, or show their visitors something, or the kids want to go and play or watch something on telly, or have a proper sit down somewhere soft and comfy… they will go into the house. Neighbours can’t snitch when visitors arrive, like they can now – as long as you sit in the garden for a few minutes first, you’re safe.

It’s over at that point, this is why they are so reluctant to include back gardens in the list of permitted places.

440635 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to A. Contrarian, 4, #840 of 1661 🔗

Spot on. I also remember, that when you could meet up in ones back garden last year, people in England were allowed to use the toilet whilst those in Scotland were not. Apparently this was because the Sturgeonator thought that had you gone to a BBQ in someone’s back garden and needed to use the toilet then you had travelled too far a distance. Not sure about Wales and NI.

440821 ▶▶▶▶ arfurmo, replying to isobar, 1, #841 of 1661 🔗

No it was about the virus going all over the room when the toilet was flushed. The meet up was permitted if you took a trowel and the back garden wasn’t paved over.

440696 ▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to Silke David, 1, #842 of 1661 🔗

The logical conclusion is, if you don’t have a back garden then you aren’t included. So all those tower block residents, are again, left behind.

441076 ▶▶▶ ShropshireLass, replying to PoshPanic, 1, #843 of 1661 🔗

I personally know from a previous job that quite a lot of homes only have front gardens – so it isn’t just residents of tower blocks who would be excluded. However, are you referring to the guidance or the legislation? I can’t remember anything in the legislation that refers to ‘back gardens’…

441390 ▶▶▶▶ PoshPanic, replying to ShropshireLass, #844 of 1661 🔗

I’m not sure if it is mentioned in the legislation. The constant reference to back gardens, tells me how out of touch they are.

440569 A. Contrarian, replying to A. Contrarian, 19, #845 of 1661 🔗

The Isle of Man thing puzzles me. The cases “must have come from within the community”. What does that mean? Or rather, what do they think that it means? The virus is spontaneously coming into being in midair to infect an unsuspecting passerby? Where’s it been hiding all this time? If this is indeed possible, how can a lockdown stop it? How can anything possibly stop it? So many questions, so few answers…

440580 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to A. Contrarian, #846 of 1661 🔗

So many dimwits.

440584 ▶▶ The Filthy Engineer, replying to A. Contrarian, 4, #847 of 1661 🔗

Where do viruses hide is a very good question not just for this one but even human only viruses? Why do they suddenly appear out of nowhere? Why is smallpox the only human virus that has been totally eradicated?

440615 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 6, #848 of 1661 🔗

Unless you test every single person in the world you cannot claim smallpox is eradicated, only that we do not see any serious cases anymore. Many places think TB has been eradicated then it pipes up again. In the UN Agenda 2030, which most countries have signed up to, one goal is the “eradication” of TB, HIV and other communicable diseases. This is what it’s ALL about. The mad people think we can rid the human world of all disease through vaccination. Utter insanity. Human hubris gone off the scale. Let’s make people WELL through good diet, exercise and lifestyle. Oh but there is not enough money in that!

440627 ▶▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 3, #849 of 1661 🔗

Don’t give them ideas about mass testing for smallpox!

440641 ▶▶▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to A. Contrarian, 2, #850 of 1661 🔗

Shit is smallpox on the loose, OMG, where’s my hazmat suite . Lockdown more, harder, longer.

440629 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 6, #851 of 1661 🔗

Smallpox disappeared with improvements in hygene, sewage, better access to clena water and improving living standards. Smallpox had already been dropping away before Jenner came along. Strange but true. And also curiously memory-holed.

440664 ▶▶▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 5, #852 of 1661 🔗

BINGO!

440852 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, #853 of 1661 🔗

Well, we need to test every person I the world, so the logic goes

440618 ▶▶▶ eastender53, replying to The Filthy Engineer, 1, #854 of 1661 🔗

Smallpox is spread by the Variola virus. As shown below it doesn’t change much and can therefore be targeted by the same vaccine over a long period.

Variola is very different from SARS-CoV-2, the virus causing the current COVID-19 pandemic. The variola genome consists of double-stranded DNA, which is more stable and gets copied more accurately when the virus replicates than do single-stranded RNA genomes, such as that of SARS-CoV-2. Consequently, the rate of genetic change in variola is much lower . Although estimates vary , the evolution rate of the variola genome is at least 15-fold lower than that of SARS-CoV-2 .

440598 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to A. Contrarian, 6, #855 of 1661 🔗

Many scientist still debate germ theory. Some say viruses can spread around the world on the air currents. Some say Viruses are just the remnants of toxins expelled from the body after the body has an illness. Also and this has been posted before

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2130424/pdf/jhyg00082-0026.pdf An outbreak of common colds at an Antarctic base after seventeen weeks of complete isolation

440644 ▶▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Andrew K, 2, #856 of 1661 🔗

I thought this was most likely from melting ice. Coronaviruses can survive in freezing conditions indefinitely.

440602 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to A. Contrarian, 5, #857 of 1661 🔗

Many viruses live dormant in the cells, causing no symptoms until you get a bit run down (usually in winter when you get less Vitamin D and fresh air, or when you are very stressed), they they pipe up and you get symptoms. Or, if you keep testing people, you will eventually get false positives. You can “create” Covid anywhere and any time you like.

440611 ▶▶ Annie, replying to A. Contrarian, 2, #858 of 1661 🔗

Spontaneous generation.Proven scientific fact – until it was disproved.

440670 ▶▶ iane, replying to A. Contrarian, 4, #859 of 1661 🔗

Well, viruses are strange things. They can sometimes stay hidden somewhere in one’s cells without causing problems, only to spring out at some apparently random time and for some unknown reason and do their stuff. It is not as straightforward as simply bringing together a susceptible human with an infectious virus!

440572 Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, 1, #860 of 1661 🔗

Can anyone explain how, if there’s no attenuated covid virus in the vaxxes, people test covid-positive afterwards?

440587 ▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Cheezilla, 6, #861 of 1661 🔗

The PCR is merely looking for fragments of virul genome based on whatever Drosten was given back in January. If it’s the spike protein they are testing for then that’s in the mRNA vaccines.

I think, from what I understand, don’t quote me on that, allegedly. I think I’ve covered my arse now! 🙂

440612 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Andrew K, 3, #862 of 1661 🔗

I was going to say the same. Spike protein would be my guess too.

440588 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Cheezilla, 4, #863 of 1661 🔗

I’ve been wondering that too – I thought I’d missed something.

440591 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Cheezilla, 1, #864 of 1661 🔗

Fake tests (high cycles) or the experimental drug ( it is NOT a vaxx) contains the disease.

See 1860-1870 small pox outbreaks in Leicester (one of many examples). The cure carrying the problem.

440604 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Cheezilla, 2, #865 of 1661 🔗

I was wondering if the vax puts the immune system on kind of high alert, so perhaps they would be more likely to test positive for anything shortly afterwards – zika virus, dengue fever? if the PCR was set to test for that.

440633 ▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Cheezilla, 10, #866 of 1661 🔗

Aah now, here’s my theory, (and with thanks to several other commentators better qualified than me)… Because both types of gene therapy render the immune system inert with regard to the spike protein with is the defining part of this virus, humans who are “vaccinated” with Covid-19 no longer have the normal symptomatic responses to infection, (sneezing, headache, gallons of snot, coughing, thirst, tummy trouble from ingesting snot). So the virus lingers and accumulates in the nose and throat for far longer than it would in a normal, functional immune system. Then finally it starts to cause trouble for the lower respiratory tract, (breathlessness, tight chest, deep cough, rather than snot cough), and feeling more off colour. Finally person gets tested and voila!

It likely won’t cause death or hospitalisation at this point because for the vaccine it kills, it kills fast. So they’re gone long before this from pulmonary immunopathy, or stroke as an almost allergic reasction to the vaccine itself. They are also very vulnerable so aren’t being counted in vaccine deaths but Covid deaths.

But for the residual healthy, instead of being immune, the way it should work with your bodies early defences setting up the fight and actually dispensing with the virus because it uses actual immunity left from earlier in the outbreak or even another of the SARS from the last 20 years, to respond, the body is biohacked.

This piece of clever technology makes it look like that have immunity by elevation antibodies. But it actually works to switch off immunity, thus stopping the cytokine storms that bought in gasping patients needing oxygen support. But it also at the same time makes everyone vulnerable to reinfection and colonisation by different mutations. Because they can no longer rely on their T-cell immunity to trawl through its memory banks for something that resembles what it’s dealing with, and fight it out with that.

I hope that makes sense. They’re not sick with covid-19. They’re just viral reservoirs for it. Which is why they HAVE to keep wearing masks, forever. The vaccinated and not the unvaccinated are super-spreaders, because they now carry it with no obvious external indication of being ill. And with its tendency to hop species, and the vaccines tendency to stimulate a sudden cascading attack of intense autoimmunity, these guys are also ticking time bombs for each other and food security, as it decimates animals. A new wild-type virus being circulated amongst them will lead to a sudden, nasty death.

440850 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to TheHandbag, 1, #867 of 1661 🔗

How can the T Cell response be impacted? T cells work immediately whereas an antibody response will take time to show up.

441294 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Cheezilla, #868 of 1661 🔗

Thanks for all your replies.

440578 TheHandbag, replying to TheHandbag, 12, #869 of 1661 🔗

It’ll be very interesting to see, now that aerosolised transmission of upper respiratory tract viruses are a recognised “thing”, if the govt might roll-back the nasal flu vaccine for Primary (and this year I think Yr7 students.

The sheer lunacy of spaying live attenuated virus up the noses of children, (with very little hygiene instincts, and with very few opportunities to practice good hygiene in school toilets, most of which are little short of cesspits), has never been explained.

I’d be so glad to see the end of that particular Public Health fiasco. What a joke! And even sadder, healthy adult parents vaccinating themselves because the family keeps going down with flu every year, (mysteriously after nasal flu vaccine in school), and then developing Fibromyalgia and other odd diseases, leading in turn to weight gain, exhaustion, an ME diagnosis, and loss of quality of life on quite a scale. Then continuing to vaccinate because they don’t want to get iller than they already are. Jesus wept!

440592 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to TheHandbag, 7, #870 of 1661 🔗

Never stops to amaze me that many people that have the flu vaccine every year experience debilitating flu symptoms (equal to the flu) from the vaccine and they think it is ok and that the vaccine would protect them from the flu. In addition they fail to do their research about adverse effects.

440661 ▶▶▶ iane, replying to Victoria, 5, #871 of 1661 🔗

Well, I have had the flu vaccine a couple of times (not this winter as I don’t trust it not to come with the added ‘bonus’ of an experimental covid jab!) with no problems (not even a sore arm). The flu jabs have been developed and tested over very many years – unlike the current crop of mad-scientist covid jabs!

440610 ▶▶ leggy, replying to TheHandbag, 7, #872 of 1661 🔗

It’s the attenuated OPV that’s causing vaccine derived polio outbreaks in Africa.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/sep/02/vaccine-derived-polio-spreads-in-africa-after-defeat-of-wild-virus

Thanks Bill. Same principles you describe above for flu.

440579 Banjones, 21, #873 of 1661 🔗

The fact that so much money and effort was spent on developing vaccines when it was KNOWN there wouldn’t be enough time for properly testing them – rather than working on prophylactics and theraputics, especially those proven safe – is what seems fishiest of all.

Even now, Ivermectin, HCQ, calcifidiol, etc are being sidelined. The words ”cheap”, ”effective” and ”safe” are the ones big pharma don’t like. It always was a race against time – ”Hit ’em with the vaccines while they’re still terrified, and before they realise that there are simpler and safer remedies.”

440582 FerdIII, replying to FerdIII, 14, #874 of 1661 🔗

Big Pharma, Big Money, Big Profits, Big Fake Studies, Big Kickbacks to politicos-Deep staters

“Major COVID-19 vaccine maker Moderna posted a more than 13-fold increase in total revenue in 2020, compared to 2019, the company revealed in an earnings report on Thursday.

“Total revenue was $803 million for the year ended December 31, 2020 compared to $60 million for the year ended December 31, 2019,” the report said, adding that much of the change is linked to the company’s coronavirus vaccine, mRNA-1273.”

Science.

440601 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to FerdIII, 2, #875 of 1661 🔗

THE Science – different thing.

440893 ▶▶ Ewan Duffy, replying to FerdIII, #876 of 1661 🔗

But, but, but, these vaccines were going to be provided without profit……..

440585 happychappy, replying to happychappy, 33, #877 of 1661 🔗

Just watched an interesting news article on BBC (sorry!). They were following school kids in Yemen, determined to carry on their education in the face of unimaginable fear. The brightest student, 9 year old Ahmed – blind since birth – is the teacher of a class of around 30 to 40 students. They take lessons in the bombed-out shell of buildings that provide some form of shelter, while gunfire continues in the background. Missiles are a constant threat. Yet their desire for education sees these young children endure this constant terror on a daily basis.

Now contrast that attitude to the attitude in the pampered, decadent unionised UK, where education is seen merely as a throwaway commodity. Where teachers refuse to work as they face a practically non-existent threat from a virus and kids education is regarded as less important than catching a bug. It really was a telling piece and another shameful example of the ignorant and selfish stupidity of those in positions of authority in Britain.

440597 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to happychappy, 10, #878 of 1661 🔗

Now contrast that attitude to the attitude in the pampered, decadent unionised UK, where education is seen merely as a throwaway commodity. Where teachers refuse to work as they face a practically non-existent threat from a virus and kids education is regarded as less important than catching a bug.

I’ll bet the BBC didn’t make that comparison, did it?

440674 ▶▶▶ happychappy, replying to Ceriain, 6, #879 of 1661 🔗

I was a bit surprised they broadcast it! The irony obviously passed them by!

440606 ▶▶ Annie, replying to happychappy, 8, #880 of 1661 🔗

Bang on, correct, what a shameful comparison for Cowardland UK.

440645 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to happychappy, 10, #881 of 1661 🔗

One of my English students told me about his Grandfather. His family left East Prussia before WWII, and he decided, aged 12, to stay behind on his own. He was later captured, aged 16 and taken to Siberia, to the gulag from which he escaped twice (successfully the second time, at age 16). I would like to shake that man’s hand.

This is not to have a go at anyone who hasn’t had a hard life, but frankly we’ve been all so comfortable for so long that we aren’t prepared for difficult times. When I think of the way the so-called “boomers” are spoken about – if we had had such abundance of jobs and money, I’m sure we all would have enjoyed it without a thought for the future too. I don’t judge anyone for being comfortable and enjoying that comfort. But now we are facing really hard times and need to toughen up and prepare.

440679 ▶▶▶ happychappy, replying to this is my username, 2, #882 of 1661 🔗

Completely agree. I think it is this apathetic complacency, almost bred into us, that has allowed such a seamless implementation of authoritarianism and withdrawal of our freedoms. How far will they get before the masses stir from their slumber?

440780 ▶▶▶▶ this is my username, replying to happychappy, 1, #883 of 1661 🔗

I really don’t know. Many of us grew up with not very much, and went without, but still that’s nothing compared to where we’re headed. There are young people who are awake – we have them here. Then there are those who remember hardship and they are here too – they will manage somehow, but most people are going to carry on complacently obeying until they are unable to resist and they have no idea what it’ll take to sort the country out.

How many will take the Mark of the beast?

440842 ▶▶▶ Felice, replying to this is my username, 2, #884 of 1661 🔗

I’ve been thinking about WW2 quite a lot recently, as my 96 year old mother died last July and I’ve been clearing up her house. She never wanted to talk about the past, saying ‘no point in going back to the past, look to the future’, and as a result I know almost nothing of what my parents went through as young adults.
I came across photos of my father in uniform whilst clearing out. Born in 1923, he joined up aged 18 and fought in N Africa briefly, before spending the rest of the war fighting all the way up through Italy. He was demobbed aged 22. His commanding officer wrote a diary which his son transcribed, and I stumbled across it on the web. I am in awe as to what those young men experienced.
Add to that, the fact that my father was born in Shanghai, and got sent to boarding school in England aged 14. He visited his parents once in 1938, then did not see them again until 1947.
His parents, my grandparents, got out of Shanghai just before the Japanese invaded the International Settlement, and spent the war years in Australia. That too was a difficult time for them, as they had no money and almost no possessions at first. But they did what they could and they survived.
Would today’s young people manage as well if it came to it?

440673 ▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to happychappy, 9, #885 of 1661 🔗

Yes, we have been pampered, cossetted and infantilised. Our lives lack any spiritual dimension, by which I mean that we perceive no meaning to our existence beyond a crude hedonistic impulse to move from one shallow pleasure to another. Our political consciousness has been crushed by the relentless march of neo-liberal globalisation. (Woke is fake politics for silly spoiled children who don’t understand the true nature of their exploitation.) Deep down we don’t really believe in education because this implies a valuation of the past and a belief in the future, which we no longer have – school is just “free” childcare and, for the middle-classes, the ticket to a huge student loan debt and an unproductive non-job moving information around on a screen via Microsoft applications (this is precisely what the schools’ home education provision has amounted to). Why does it matter if teachers hand out inflated grades and finally destroy the whole idea of quality and excellence – it’s like endlessly printing money without an underlying gold standard or productive economy. Look at O-Level papers from the 1970s and compare them with what has been expected of children since; the debasement of learning has been continuous and is now entering a terminal phase.

We simply haven’t grown up. The last generation of real adults are now in their 80s/90s. We are an empty, decadent civilization in irreversible decline. The lockdown is perhaps not something that was done to us but something we did to ourselves as an act of existential despair, like the legion of Japanese hikikomori teenagers who started living in their bedrooms when they realised the outside world had absolutely nothing for them. Lacking the vision or the desire to see beyond the empty distractions of Netflix, pornography, video games and social media we have retreated into the womb-like safety of our homes, with mummy media and daddy government keeping us safe.

Feeling pretty black pilled today. Maybe Peter Hitchens is right and it’s all over. Has been for a long time.

440690 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Johnsontown, 2, #886 of 1661 🔗

Oh dear – yet another symptom of Covid lockdown – more old fartish sour grapes, with sackcloth and ashes disguised as ‘spirituality’ (‘We’? – well speak for yourself, but count me out).

This is a desperate, manufactured political problem. It’s again about the central age-old question of power and its imbalances – not the end of days.

440725 ▶▶▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to RickH, 1, #887 of 1661 🔗

Fair enough – I’m glad you’ve still get some hope. I’m the kind of person who reads Emil Cioran quotes to cheer myself up. “I don’t understand why we must do things in this world, why we must have friends and aspirations, hopes and dreams. Wouldn’t it be better to retreat to a faraway corner of the world, where all its noise and complications would be heard no more? Then we could renounce culture and ambitions; we would lose everything and gain nothing; for what is there to be gained from this world?”

441165 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Johnsontown, #888 of 1661 🔗

Good example of why one shouldn’t take up the pen unless one has something worth writing. 🙂

440872 ▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to RickH, 1, #889 of 1661 🔗

You are right it is a manufactured political problem. I’m in the war until the end!

440730 ▶▶▶ concrete68, replying to Johnsontown, 6, #890 of 1661 🔗

“The last generation of real adults are now in their 80s/90s.”…

Is that them queuing up for their jab and wandering about outside wearing masks?

Yes it most definitely is.

440819 ▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to concrete68, 2, #891 of 1661 🔗

Age doesn’t come into it.
Sheep and collaborators are aged 10 to 110 as are sceptics.

441333 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to concrete68, 1, #892 of 1661 🔗

No, they’re the ones refusing.

441330 ▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Johnsontown, 1, #893 of 1661 🔗

Brilliantly put. That just sums everything up about or situation today. All quantity, no quality.

440593 eastender53, replying to eastender53, 17, #894 of 1661 🔗

So now even if you’ve got immunity from variant A you can be infected by variant B etc. They haven’t thought this through have they? At first glance it looks like a great add on for Project Fear. The problem is as variants keep coming. This is an endless problem, with permanent restrictions, multiple jabs. Now that may well be the plan, but in the warmth of the summer even the sheeple will not stand for it. By closing every door Boris, Wancock and Co will create a sealed chamber that can only lead to an explosion.

(It goes without saying that a strong natural immune system, coupled with T cell activity has the ability to be flexible and deal with variants, whereas a targeted gene therapy jab does not. That’s why the WHO ‘cancelled’ naturally acquired immunity.)

440623 ▶▶ kenadams, replying to eastender53, 1, #895 of 1661 🔗

yep. I posted something similar earlier today. This might be where it all fails. But, I’m not optimistic. There is nothing now that the sheeple won’t do.

440595 Jody, replying to Jody, 17, #896 of 1661 🔗

I was hugely disappointed, yesterday, to see that Peter Hitchens has thrown in the towel and taken the “vaccination”.

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2021/02/peter-hitchens-ive-had-the-covid-jab-and-all-it-cost-me-was-my-freedom.html

I was even more disappointed to hear him on TalkRadio this morning, saying that, effectively, the battle has been lost and that we must find new terrain to fight on. Hitchens complains that we lack political traction, and uses as evidence the public’s widespread support for lockdowns, facemasks, vaccination et al.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kW7M-zOSHc

The big battle on the horizon, it seems to me, is the government’s intention to “vaccinate” our children in September; surely, this is an area where we might be able to focus public attention on our side (although I wouldn’t bank on it).

But we need LEADERSHIP! And I don’t know where it’s coming from.

440605 ▶▶ GCarty80, replying to Jody, -14, #897 of 1661 🔗

I thought this was Lockdown Sceptics, not Vaccine Sceptics?

440613 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to GCarty80, 7, #898 of 1661 🔗

Perhaps you missed it – but the ”vaccine” was supposed to herald the end of lockdown!

440617 ▶▶▶ TJN, replying to GCarty80, 17, #899 of 1661 🔗

The covid vaccination of children, who clearly don’t need it, is worth getting worked up about. Lockdown Scepticism is about freedom of choice. So is choosing whether or not to have a vaccine.

440620 ▶▶▶ Jody, replying to GCarty80, 19, #900 of 1661 🔗

The lockdowns and the “vaccines” are both part of the same process, and the vaccines will not lead us out of the lockdowns.

The vaccines are also a Trojan Horse for enhanced digital surveillance.

Why is the government planning to vaccinate children, when Covid-19 poses no risk to them whatsoever?

440676 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to GCarty80, 18, #901 of 1661 🔗

Anyone who isn’t sceptical of the Covid vaccines has lost the plot.

This isn’t anything to do with a knee-jerk antagonism to vaccines in general – it’s about recognizing a dud when you see it.

Just for information, and to highlight the dodgy dealing contained in the advertising campaign around these products :

  • they were bought sight unseen in vast quantities by the government, thus immediately generating massive linked political and commercial conflicts of interest
  • Government advisors and SAGE have massive financial links to the pharmaceutical industry and the Gates Foundation
  • the industry was given commercial immunity before anything was known about the product
  • the government document justifying rushed emergency approval contained a blatant lie in the first paragraph
  • the MHRA just did what it was told rather than acting as an independent regulator
  • the timescale involved means that testing is sub-standard when not absent – as in for long term effects
  • immediate side effects have been far more numerous and severe than those for a ‘flu vaccine
  • the vaccines, we are now told, do not protect in terms of either immunity or transmission
  • the absolute risk reduction from the vaccines is less than 2%

If that’s not enough …..!!!!

440721 ▶▶▶▶ Jody, replying to RickH, 4, #902 of 1661 🔗

Thank you, Rick, for this excellent summation.

I don’t think people realise that EVERYTHING regarding this “vaccination” programme leads back to Gates. They just think it’s a conspiracy theory, but it’s TRUE.

441019 ▶▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to RickH, #903 of 1661 🔗

The letter from the Rabbi ’31 reasons why I won’t take the vaccine’ summarized it up well too.

Reason 31: The whole thing stinks.

440697 ▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to GCarty80, 2, #904 of 1661 🔗

It’s what you will ATL. BTL however I’m pretty certain we are 100% ANTI lockdown and at least 90% ANTI covivaccines (split opinions I imagine on traditional, properly tested and approved vaccines). Not much “scepticism” left down here.

I will say, however, that I have always had misgivings about some of the more right-wing LD sceptics like Hitchins and TY. I don’t think actually care about children or ethics or general human rights. I think they are just libertarians who want their freedom and I always knew they’d roll up their sleeves if they were told it would buy them freedom, and throw children under the bus. The very notion of sticking these drugs – without any long-term trials – into children is utterly abhorrent.

440759 ▶▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to GCarty80, #905 of 1661 🔗

It can be both or neither

440632 ▶▶ frankfrankly, replying to Jody, 2, #906 of 1661 🔗

We live in a Parliamentary system and very few MP’s have opposed Govt. policy. Holding the state to account is a fine sounding thing, but it takes numbers.

440636 ▶▶ mattghg, replying to Jody, 4, #907 of 1661 🔗

I wouldn’t judge anyone feels pressurised to have the jab and gives in. But Hitchens has gone and had it before any real pressure has actually been applied.

440659 ▶▶▶ Jody, replying to mattghg, 2, #908 of 1661 🔗

The Talk Radio interview is particularly interesting from 16:20 (on the timer).

He lays into Douglas Murray and Charles Moore, who he thinks could have made a real difference, if they’d come in unambiguously on our side.

440787 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to mattghg, 4, #909 of 1661 🔗

He gave the bully his lunch money before the bully even asked for it. Just sheer cowardice, particularly since his apparent need to travel is nowhere in reach. Where the hell does anyone think they’re going in 2021?

440651 ▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Jody, 3, #910 of 1661 🔗

We might have lost the battle but we will win the war.

440663 ▶▶▶ Jody, replying to Fingerache Philip, 2, #911 of 1661 🔗

I agree. We will. But we’ve got a long time in the trenches ahead.

440669 ▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Jody, 4, #912 of 1661 🔗

True, but we have got more staying power than sheep and collaborators.

440680 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jody, replying to Fingerache Philip, 7, #913 of 1661 🔗

I was talking to a friend today, who, like me, will NEVER, EVER take the “vaccine”, and I told her that she’s got a difficult time ahead: restricted, or non-existent, access to life’s amenities (if they ever do open-up again), and the impossibility of domestic and foreign travel.

The government will also encourage the “vaccinated” to treat us as lepers.

She knows, and she’s prepared to fight, as am I, but it’s going to be a long haul.

440748 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Jody, 4, #914 of 1661 🔗

Most rational people feel this way. No business I’ve spoken to will have anything to do with vaccine apartheid so don’t worry too much.

440766 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ John001, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 4, #915 of 1661 🔗

Don’t be negative, also say ‘no comment’ or ‘None of your business’ if quizzed on vaccinations (actual or planned). You’re entitled to treat it as private / medical stuff.

440813 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to John001, #916 of 1661 🔗

Or just bloody lie, that’s what the government and their advisers and experts have done from the start .

440862 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Fingerache Philip, 4, #917 of 1661 🔗

A letter I have today delivered to my GP.

Thank you for inviting me for the Covid mRNA Synthetic Gene Therapy injection. I have taken legal advice on this matter and have been advised to set out my reasons in writing for declining this injection.  Should the Government impose restrictions on those who decline this injection, I, along with others, will be issuing legal action (against the Government not the Surgery).

I set out below the reasons to decline this injection. This is based on in-depth research I have undertaken about Pfeizer, Astrazeneca and Moderna injections.

·       The manufacturers do not, in their own scientific papers and trial data, refer to these injections as ‘vaccines’ they refer to them as a Synthetic Gene Therapy
·       They admit that these injections do not:
o  Confer immunity against SARSCov2 to the individual
o  Reduce Transmission
o  Prevent the individual contracting SARsCov2
·       The only alleged efficacy is that it will reduce symptoms. I could not find any evidence to support the statement that it reduces hospital admission by 90%
·       Information provided on the USA FDA site and on the EMA site clearly indicates these injections have not, in any meaningful way, been through proper clinical trials and have not, in fact, completed the normal cycle of trials any vaccine would be expected to be put through prior to it being licenced. This would be anything upwards of a 5 year process. Pfeizer has admitted their trials will not be completed until 2023
·       The FDA has licensed the Pfeizer and Moderna injections on an emergency basis only and have refused to do this for Astrazeneca. The EMA has taken the same approach and is concerned about Astrazeneca.  As such, these injections remain unlicensed and should not be lawfully used unless there are other viable treatments available to be used (which there are)
·       An in-depth review of the USA CDC VAERS data and that of the EMA CDC site shows an alarmingly high ratio of adverse events post-injection. They are not minimal adverse events they are very serious and include but not limited to:
o  Long term neurological conditions
o  Loss of sight
o  Involuntary muscle spasms
o  Paralysis; and
o  Death

Whilst I appreciate the Pharmaceutical companies involved deny these are caused by their injections, they are wrong. The correlation between the injection and these adverse effects is overwhelming and deeply concerning. Around the world residents in care homes are dying in significant numbers one day if not a few days after having the injection.

I have undertaken a rough calculation and arrived at a ‘ballpark’ figure that the total number of adverse events is something between 3.9% to 5% of the total number of people injected. The IFR for SARsCOV2 is internationally agreed at c0.23%.

441075 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Jo Dominich, #918 of 1661 🔗

RESPECT!

441192 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Fingerache Philip, #919 of 1661 🔗

Sorry Philip, forgot to post the second part!

I have only a 99.99% chance of contracting SARSCov2 and if I do, will probably suffer only mild symptoms. Should I contract it and have moderate to high symptoms I have a 99.98% chance of survival with no adverse consequences to my health. I do, however, should I have the injection, stand a 3.9%-5% chance of acquiring a serious long term medical condition or death. I will go with the IFR. There is nothing more powerful in the natural world than the human body’s immune system. I will keep my trust in it.

I must express serious concern about the Government and NHS’ strategy firstly in relation to SARSCov2 and public information and now to these injections. I set these out as follows:

·       Industrial levels of propaganda predicated on false information and designed to produce maximum fear in the population (SAGE Minutes)
·       Industrial levels of censorship to prevent the dissemination of true information about both the respiratory virus and the injections
·       An industrial level of manufactured hysteria on the part of the MSM and paid for by the Government and NHS under the guise of ‘public health advertisements’
·       The continued serious psychological abuse of its citizens by the Government and the NHS based on ramping up fear levels to the maximum to cause distress, fright, isolation and compliance

These injections are being rolled out with the same level of hysteria, propaganda and Government misinformation. I have not an iota of trust in the Government and have lost a lot of trust in the NHS throughout all of this. Too many lies and falsehoods have been told.

I have also been advised to note that, the letter sent by the Surgery inviting me to book an appointment for the injection, did not include any information leaflets about:

·       The composition of the vaccines
·       Their efficacy or
·       The side effects that could result from having the injection

The CEO of Pfeizer publicly stated that the second injection was “ not a walk in the park ”. The lack of appropriate information makes informed consent impossible.

Could you please upload this letter onto my medical records held at your Surgery.

441152 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Jo Dominich, 1, #920 of 1661 🔗

Legal action against the surgery too, surely ? 🙂

441182 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to JohnB, #921 of 1661 🔗

A bit of a grey area. At this point the only avenue for this would be that they did not send any information along with the letter which would cover the side effects as well. However, a colleague had the AZ jab under pressure from his OH and regrets it. He has suffered shaking, breathing difficulties, severe muscle ache and other things. He does have a legal right to sue the surgery as they gave him the injection but only AFTER they had administered did they give him an information leaflet about it and told him to read it. This is not informed consent.

441268 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jody, replying to Jo Dominich, #922 of 1661 🔗

Superb, Jo!

440801 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Jody, 5, #923 of 1661 🔗

I will never give in either. I’m already not going anywhere because of the mask mandate so I can continue living like this indefinitely. Online ordering and curb side pickup work fine for me and I don’t have to interact with zombies, so a double win. Why would I want to go to an anti-socially distanced concert or show? I won’t get on a plane wearing a mask, and where would I go that’s any better than where I already am? It will be a long haul, but next winter if the antibody dependent enhancement/pathogenic priming kicks in we may be vindicated sooner than later. Having said all that, I acknowledge that I’m in the privileged position of not having to work and can hold out, which is why I believe it’s my civic duty to NOT get the “vaccine.” Those of us who feel strongly and can go the distance need to take one for the team. There is power in numbers and we ought not make it easy for governments to treat us like second-class citizens.

441270 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jody, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, #924 of 1661 🔗

Yes, Lisa. You’re totally right: why would you want to go to a concert with or travel alongside a load of masked-up, vaccinated zombies? Where’s the fun in that?

440678 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Jody, 4, #925 of 1661 🔗

Hitchens has lost the plot!

How on earth can he decry that ‘the battle has been lost’?

In fact by making these ludicrous statements he is working for the government, WEF and big money

440707 ▶▶▶ Jody, replying to Victoria, 5, #926 of 1661 🔗

The problem is, because he’s Establishment, it seems like it’s good to have people like Hitchens on our side, but, as you suggest, it’s hard to escape the conclusion that he never really meant what he said and that he’s just basically ratted on us.

I’m so pissed-off!

440768 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Jody, 3, #927 of 1661 🔗

hard to escape the conclusion that he never really meant what he said and that he’s just basically ratted on us”

Point to anything else he’s said or done that makes you think this. He is not saying lockdowns were right or that other people should get jabbed. He is just facing up to the fact that the fight has been very hard and doesn’t look like being won any time soon. As I have said above, I think it’s a tactical error to admit this so publicly, but if we’re honest we know it’s true. People are sick of lockdowns, but there’s been no lightbulb moment when the majority realised they’d been had and that covid was not an emergency

441159 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Julian, #928 of 1661 🔗

… if we’re honest we know it’s true.

Get out of town.

… there’s been no lightbulb moment when the majority realised they’d been had and that covid was not an emergency

Nor will there be. (This is quite close to a strawman, Julian).

I’d say there is a gradual dawning taking place, which people keep fairly quiet about as they would rather not appear to have been exposed as utter fuckwits. But they are getting there.

440743 ▶▶▶ arfurmo, replying to Victoria, 1, #929 of 1661 🔗
440763 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Victoria, 2, #930 of 1661 🔗

I don’t think he has lost the plot, he’s just a pessimist by nature and is probably really horrified and depressed (like a lot of us)

I don’t think it has been lost and won’t give up, but realistically at present we are a long way from winning, if by winning we mean a mass realisation that this has been a huge mistake – let’s face it I don’t think that will happen. But to publicly admit this is a tactical error

440784 ▶▶ arfurmo, replying to Jody, #931 of 1661 🔗

If we had won, the muzzles would have gone , there would be no lockdown or social distancing . Every poll comes up with a majority for longer lockdown , even muzzing outdoors.
It’s like Brexit until purdah kicked and the Goverment couldn’t churn out its fear porn , Remain had the upper hand.

Many many people are scared by the adverts/posters. We may not like that but that’s the way it is.That’s what Peter was saying.

440827 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to Jody, 2, #932 of 1661 🔗

thanks for the TR link, it cheered me up a bit, I still think PH is ‘one of the good guys’, I don’t think he’s a shill, or controlled opposition, I think he comes out with his integrity intact, – I just think he underestimates the level of evil we are up against. but he always did that. I will miss him when he dies within the next 5 years, along with all the other ‘vaccinated’

440833 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Jody, #933 of 1661 🔗

Catte Black over at OffG is willing to start a campaigning body people can join.

440607 Steve Hayes, replying to Steve Hayes, 12, #934 of 1661 🔗

One would have thought that “the science” of the coronavirus responses would have been a perfect target for Ben Goldacre, the author of Bad Science and critic of the Pharmaceutical industry. It would be a perfect case study for him to illustrate his concern with how bad science and even more the corporate media’s so called journalism pose a serious risk to public health. Yet, not only has he not demonstrated that “the science” is nothing more than pseudoscience, he has supported the official narrative and sang the praises of Pharma. It seems Goldacre can only see bad science when it suits him. Physician heal thyself, springs to mind.

440666 ▶▶ TimeIsNow, replying to Steve Hayes, #935 of 1661 🔗

Yes! I’ve read his books and always think of his criticism of science reporting in the media. I looked up his Twitter feed last year hoping to see at least some comments in that area, but nothing. I was very surprised.

440687 ▶▶▶ Steve Hayes, replying to TimeIsNow, #936 of 1661 🔗

If he applied the critical analysis to “the science” of the coronavirus responses that he applied in his book, he would have completely destroyed its claim to be science, easily: https://viewsandstories.blogspot.com/2020/10/coronavirus-pseudoscience.html

With his reputation and status, this would have provided an invaluable service to the welfare of our society, indeed, the world. Instead, he has become precisely what he has for so many years attempted, with some success, to expose.

It is depressing.

440738 ▶▶▶▶ Bill H, replying to Steve Hayes, 1, #937 of 1661 🔗

Brown envelopes containing significant sums of cash or numbered bank account access codes can often explain what initially might appear mysterious.

440672 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to Steve Hayes, #938 of 1661 🔗

Goldacre is a natural health basher

440689 ▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to Steve Hayes, 2, #939 of 1661 🔗

Good point, his Bad Pharma book was a pretty powerful polemic; I don’t think he’s right on everything but he’s obviously a smart and well-informed guy. Towards the end of last year I wondered what his stance on all this was and had a look on Twitter. Not much there from him apart from some vapid, virtue-signalling pro-mask wittering. Like every lefty Guardianista he has switched off his brain and abandoned his principles on this issue. It’s a cult. That’s the only way to understand it.

440838 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Steve Hayes, #940 of 1661 🔗

Isn’t there a Ben Goldachre on SAGE?

440970 ▶▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to BeBopRockSteady, #941 of 1661 🔗

I just looked – he’s on the “ethnicity subgroup”…

440609 isobar, replying to isobar, 22, #942 of 1661 🔗

So the Nation has the displeasure of having Wankcock on parade tonight. I won’t be watching as, having checked out the warranty on my TV, a brick through the screen apparently doesn’t count as a manufacturing defect. However my guess would be, “we are doing a great job in our jabatoriums, however we are all going to die from the Brazilian variant, and by the way, because you naughty boys and girls ignored what JVT told you and were out and about this past weekend, you will be getting another two weeks in home detention”

440621 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to isobar, 3, #943 of 1661 🔗

I expect they will cancel the privilege of sitting on benches that was supposed to start next week. Because we’re so naughty.

440630 ▶▶▶ Charlie Blue, replying to A. Contrarian, 2, #944 of 1661 🔗

I agree. There will surely be a punishment.

440826 ▶▶▶▶ Wolver, replying to Charlie Blue, #945 of 1661 🔗

Anal swab tests?

440829 ▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Charlie Blue, #946 of 1661 🔗

But the police won’t police it’s imposition!

440686 ▶▶▶ TheOriginalBlackPudding, replying to A. Contrarian, 2, #947 of 1661 🔗

Good point! The sun is shining so I think I’d better go and find a bench to sit on before HankieCock cancels next week’s privilege.
BFN

440622 ▶▶ godowneasy, replying to isobar, 2, #948 of 1661 🔗

I would put money on the fact that Matt Du Twat will NOT be bold enough to trash the roadmap dates put out last week by The Fatberg. Big reaction coming if he does. Let’s see.

440650 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to godowneasy, 2, #949 of 1661 🔗

I wonder if the only way they can test if there will be a big reaction to a change is to annouce it and watch what happens? They have got away with it so many times they may just think, maybe one more time?

440691 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to godowneasy, 2, #950 of 1661 🔗

Yes, he might not go that far, but the government lost control at the weekend and it knows it, so there might well be a veiled threat to do something unless we behave .

440775 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to isobar, 1, #951 of 1661 🔗

The Brazilian was the response.

440797 ▶▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to RickH, 1, #952 of 1661 🔗

Very likely, just too convenient!

440647 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to isobar, 1, #953 of 1661 🔗

We are not allowed to sit on benches but we will all be told to sit on the naughty step.

440693 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Cumbriacracked, 3, #954 of 1661 🔗

I think that we are gonna need a bigger step!

440786 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to isobar, 2, #955 of 1661 🔗

Although none of us will be social distancing so it can be reduced in size a bit 😉

440705 ▶▶ Janette, replying to isobar, 1, #956 of 1661 🔗

Haha love it

440769 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to isobar, 3, #957 of 1661 🔗

Great! More soothing words from Van-Tam…

440616 stefarm, 5, #958 of 1661 🔗

https://silview.media/2021/02/26/vaccines-may-actually-end-the-pandemic-in-july-but-not-as-you-think/

We found a contractual clause between governments and Covid jabs manufacturers that may end the pandemic no later than this summer

440649 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 4, #959 of 1661 🔗

How funny Public Health England – how can you do a test or get the test result if you ‘did not complete the online test registration’?

Also viruses mutate!!!! that is virus 101

“up to 6”. Out of 66,000,000 people

Well worth another few weeks of lockup then

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1366387164083326978

440662 ▶▶ stefarm, replying to Victoria, 3, #960 of 1661 🔗

That number 6 again

440665 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Victoria, 13, #961 of 1661 🔗

Isn’t it a bit dodgy that the person who tested positve for the new mutant, just didn’t happen to give a proper name or contact details? It’s almost as though the government can come up with a new variant and not have any way for them or anyone else to “prove” the person exists or therefore the variant really exists?

440675 ▶▶ Crystal Decanter, replying to Victoria, 1, #962 of 1661 🔗

Just ring up and troll PHE from a witheld number
for the lols

440740 ▶▶ stewart, replying to Victoria, 1, #963 of 1661 🔗

One is enough in New Zealand to instigate a full lockdown

440750 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Victoria, 2, #964 of 1661 🔗

Haven’t they got a fucking passenger list from the airline?

“… we will help you.”

Scary! 😉

440658 Leaky, replying to Leaky, 13, #965 of 1661 🔗

This is EXPLOSIVE! Most of this video is in German but check out the section in English (with some embedded German translation) between 2:20 and 3:03

https://youtu.be/tUMvCOtOHJI

We now have the clear evidence that there has been a criminal conspiracy waged against humanity, led by Bill Gates and in concert with WHO, Governments and public health officials worldwide.

This is conclusive vindication of all ‘sceptics’ who have held firm in the face of appalling and dismissive conduct by the MSM, Big Tech, UK Government Ministers, SAGE, public health officials, ‘scientists’ and many others. Every one of those who have championed ‘lockdowns’, and especially ‘vaccinations’, have blood on their hands and will shortly face justice and retribution.

440677 ▶▶ jb12, replying to Leaky, 2, #966 of 1661 🔗

Is there a transcript of the relevant part? I find it hard to watch videos. for any length of time.

440866 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to jb12, #967 of 1661 🔗

2hours 21 mins in is in english and its very easy to watch and listen

441112 ▶▶▶▶ jb12, replying to Major Panic, #968 of 1661 🔗

Thanks, yeah. I ripped it onto mp3 and listened to it instead.

440772 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Leaky, #969 of 1661 🔗

led by Bill Gates”

No. Gates can use pressure from his wealth – but it is others who commit the actual offences.

441124 ▶▶▶ jb12, replying to RickH, 1, #970 of 1661 🔗

I think you should watch the testimony if that’s what you think. According to this Dr., the governmental body in Switzerland Swissmedic signed a contract to choose the medication and how they would track the illness with the WHO and then Bill Gates personally. This is after Bill Gates tried to get himself, as a man, on the executive board of the WHO, a place usually reserved for entire countries.

440837 ▶▶ Mic67, replying to Leaky, #971 of 1661 🔗

Thanks, will watch.

440660 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 22, #972 of 1661 🔗

The Great Delusion

440706 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to Victoria, 8, #973 of 1661 🔗

Brilliant! Thank you! I’ve always felt sure that the climate dimwits thought electricity came out of the wall.

440711 ▶▶▶ Andrew K, replying to Banjones, 1, #974 of 1661 🔗

no no no it does!

440737 ▶▶ FerdIII, replying to Victoria, 2, #975 of 1661 🔗

most of the emissions are water vapour (very small % are particulates), good cartoon, the black ‘smoke’ will give the greentards their safe space I guess.

441164 ▶▶ Old Bill, replying to Victoria, #976 of 1661 🔗

Excellent cartoon.
Magic power sockets are far rarer than magic money trees.
The latter are sometimes referred to as taxpayers.

440671 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 6, #977 of 1661 🔗

Those 20m that have received the experimental gene therapy – how have your lives changed since you got it?

Freedoms I mean, not the side effects

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1366380365498241024

440734 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Victoria, 3, #978 of 1661 🔗

It’ll all happen after the 2nd jab, at least that’s what a friend said

440698 SimonCook, replying to SimonCook, 8, #979 of 1661 🔗

Hi everyone,

Just received a reply from my the head at my son’s secondary to my letter last week explaining that my son wouldn’t be wearing a mask in the classroom and should be considered exempt.

I have just emailed UsForThem in the hope that they may have some advice.

In the letter he manages to completely avoid mentioning exemptions and has simply presented the DfE guidance.

Either he’s had a lot of letters like mine and needed to cut & paste or he can’t be bothered to spend the time to deal with the issues that I raised or take the time to make the reply more personal.

I obviously need to clarify with the school now, as honestly, I don’t know if they will allow my son to attend if he doesn’t mask up.

Really poor show quite frankly.

Best regards

Simon

440704 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to SimonCook, 29, #980 of 1661 🔗

Simon you don’t need permission from the teacher, you TELL the school your child will NOT be wearing a mask. End of story.

440716 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 5, #981 of 1661 🔗

Thanks CNC. You’re right of course.

That’s exactly what I stated to the head in my original email. He seems to have simply come back with some pre-written DfE stuff that he had topped & tailed.

In my original email, which was respectful in tone, I did finish off by making a barbed comment about ‘just following orders’ – that’s literally all he seems to be doing.

440720 ▶▶▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to SimonCook, 7, #982 of 1661 🔗

Simon follow that link to the pro forma letter. Write again and explain you are TELLING the school your son is exempt and must NOT be denied any rights!

440824 ▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to SimonCook, 4, #983 of 1661 🔗

Useless plank. Gav W has stated its not compulsory and that’s that. This ends here.

440770 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 4, #984 of 1661 🔗

Yes. But a problem may arise from peer pressure (someone here has already raised this issue).

440714 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to SimonCook, 9, #985 of 1661 🔗

Simon, use this letter…

https://miriaf.co.uk/letter-to-schools-regarding-coronavirus-protocols/

Stand your ground. Do not be bullied

441138 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, #986 of 1661 🔗

Thank you CNC,

I will use this when I go back.

I have posted below under Cerian’s comment what was written back by the head.

Kindest regards and thanks for your help.

Simon

440715 ▶▶ Victoria, replying to SimonCook, 5, #987 of 1661 🔗

Did you use the Stopping masks and face-covering in schools (Download the Law or fiction letter)?

The letter is drafted for local authority schools in England but the substance of it will apply equally in other parts of the United Kingdom and to private schools and academies.

The letter is also a formal and detailed ‘letter before action’ of the sort solicitors would send before start Court proceedings. Using the letter does not oblige you to take any further action. However, if schools and authorities do not respond as demanded, it may allow proceeding to be started quickly. This is important since mask policies are being introduced quickly.

Legal advice on your circumstances and yours or your child’s claim should be obtained before commencing proceedings.

https://laworfiction.com/2021/02/stopping-masks-and-face-covering-in-schools/

Also look at the following sources for information:

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/602e6afd2d5e00dbe4cfd228_UKMFA_Open_Letter_Face_Mask_Mandates.pdf
.

https://miriaf.co.uk/letter-to-schools-regarding-coronavirus-protocols/
.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/what-parents-and-carers-need-to-know-about-early-years-providers-schools-and-colleges-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak/what-parents-need-to-know-about-early-years-providers-schools-and-colleges-during-covid-19

441140 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to Victoria, #988 of 1661 🔗

Thank you Victoria, I wrote my own version I must admit, although clearly, he felt it could be brushed off by DfE guidance.

440742 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to SimonCook, 3, #990 of 1661 🔗

Is he quoting the DFE Media crap here: https://dfemedia.blog.gov.uk/2021/02/22/all-students-to-return-to-school-and-college-from-8-march-and-what-you-need-to-know/

Tell him to get lost if he is.

That’s dated the 22nd of Feb; Gavin Williamson’s open letter is dated the 23rd: https://dfemedia.blog.gov.uk/2021/02/23/an-open-letter-from-education-secretary-gavin-williamson-to-parents-carers-and-guardians/

In it he says:

In addition to the system of controls and the expanded testing programme set out above, in schools or colleges where pupils in year 7 and above are educated, we recommend that face coverings should be worn by staff and pupils where social distancing cannot easily be maintained when moving around the premises outside of classrooms or teaching spaces, such as in corridors and communal areas . In the same settings for a limited period, we also recommend the use of face coverings in classrooms and other teaching spaces , unless wearing a face covering would impact on the ability to take part in exercise or strenuous activity, for example in PE lessons, or for those who are exempt from wearing a face covering as per government guidance.

The Secretary of State for Education only ‘recommends’ face masks.

Also: Schools minister masks not compulsory: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/25/covid-tests-masks-not-compulsory-english-schools-nick-gibb

End of story!

Edit: arfurmo beat me to it with the Nick Gibbs link. 🙂

441131 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to Ceriain, #991 of 1661 🔗

Good evening Cerian.

He essentially copy & pasted from this document, which he said was from Feb 25th.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/964351/Schools_coronavirus_operational_guidance.pdf

Ive pasted the below from his letter…

440764 ▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to SimonCook, 6, #992 of 1661 🔗

take him out of school. they were pretty useless before last year, but at least they served a babysitting function, and your kid got to see their friends. Now they are worse than useless, they are positively centres of child abuse. tbh, I think the schools are only being opened so that they can use the kids for their medical experiments – now it’s masks and tests, tomorrow it will be vaccines. they don’t give a shit about your son’s education, or about him personally as a human being – he’s just another lab rat of the fascist regime

441153 ▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to JaneHarry, #993 of 1661 🔗

Thanks JaneHarry.

I tend to agree with you – its a shocking state of affairs.

He’s a budding footballer (that’s all he wants to do!) so will be able to see his friends/teammates again via that very soon which is what really drives him. When he entered Secondary in Y7 he started pretty well and has always been a good lad and well-behaved. His grades have fallen since March though and he’s basically lost interest/motivation. Its so sad.

My wife and I both know that going along with this will see masks in our daughter’s primary school next. One has to take a stand at some point so if not now, when.

Best regards

Simon

440767 ▶▶ RickH, replying to SimonCook, 5, #994 of 1661 🔗

Some teachers are making a rod for their own backs. How can they expect pupils to take notice of them if they are behaving like brainless arseholes?

440825 ▶▶▶ Mic67, replying to RickH, 2, #995 of 1661 🔗

Was enjoying reading another of Simon Elmer’s pieces yesterday in which he said that Uni’s/schools should be places of questioning & not just towing the line. So true.

441132 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Mic67, #996 of 1661 🔗

toeing. toeing the line. from when ships’ deck were made of planks. 🙂

Read those O’Brian books, you know it makes sense !

440817 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to SimonCook, 7, #997 of 1661 🔗

Private Pike (Gavin Williamson) stated very clearly that no child would be refused entry to school if they did not wear masks. It was purely voluntary

441128 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to SimonCook, #998 of 1661 🔗

Give him a bell.

440699 Victoria, 1, #999 of 1661 🔗

Well worth a watch. Covers Johnson being sacked for making up quotes when a journo and that time when he gave a journalists address so his friend Darius (convicted con man), could have the guy threatened and beaten up .

Eddie Mair vs Boris Johnson (Full Interview)Mayor of London, Boris Johnson appeared on the Andrew Marr Show expecting the usual safe PR interview and received the complete opposite from Marr’s stand-in…youtube.com

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1366379625467772928

440700 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 12, #1000 of 1661 🔗
440718 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #1001 of 1661 🔗

The corruption continues, though; if that was any old Jean-Paul, Pierre or Henri, they would do their jail time IN jail, not in the comfort of their own home.

440762 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Londo Mollari, 3, #1002 of 1661 🔗

Not connected.

“… the judge ruled that Sarkozy would be allowed to serve his sentence wearing an electronic tag under house arrest.”

But I’ve done nothing and have just served a similar sentence (weeell … allegedly 🙂 )

440702 Victoria, replying to Victoria, 24, #1003 of 1661 🔗

Covid did not destroy the economy.

 Our very own government destroyed the economy.

We all sat back and watched, accepting the name tag ‘NON-ESSENTIAL’ for ourselves, our families and our businesses.

Government does not have the authority to designate WE the people non-essential.

https://twitter.com/GillianMcKeith/status/1366060755997642752

440882 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Victoria, 2, #1004 of 1661 🔗

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4dwsofHVg9w

Kristi Noem slams “WRONG A LOT” Dr. Fauci in CPAC speech

Kristi Noem, South Dakota Republican governor, never shut down her state.
Fauci warned her shed have 10,000 CV19 patients needing intensive care. The actual number was around 600. And the economy in her state has not been destroyed.

440709 LS99, replying to LS99, 20, #1005 of 1661 🔗

Here is a simple, effective letter to send to friends struggling with your Covid vaccine position. It sticks very much to mainstream facts and cites its very mainstream sources.

https://miriaf.co.uk/letter-for-family-and-friends-who-are-struggling-with-your-covid-vaccine-position/

440733 ▶▶ arfurmo, replying to LS99, 7, #1006 of 1661 🔗

“What the Covid-19 injections purport to do is reduce symptoms, which makes them a therapy, rather than a vaccine. As the safety testing around them is not yet complete, and as they are using very new mRNA technology (2), they are actually experimental gene therapies – not vaccines. As I mentioned earlier, I’m not prepared to be a test subject for interventions that are so untested and new.” covers Pfizer and Modena but the letter is missing anything  specific about AZ . Needs something about it being a vector vaccine.

440777 ▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to arfurmo, 8, #1007 of 1661 🔗

Far too complicated!
This has an IFR of 0.23%. Unless you are elderly and frail or are suffering from at least one major comorbidity , you have to be literally mad to contemplate any vaccine/therapy whatsoever.
Getting into the complexity of the types of vaccine means you have failed the test of ‘madness’ and you are lost.

440793 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to peyrole, 3, #1008 of 1661 🔗

Unless you are elderly and frail or are suffering from at least one major comorbidity , you have to be literally mad to contemplate any vaccine/therapy whatsoever.”

Oh f.! How often do I have to correct that misconception?

I’m in the ‘vulnerable’ category – and that is a major part of the reason why I wouldn’t touch these untested vaccinations with a barge-pole!

440800 ▶▶▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to RickH, 5, #1009 of 1661 🔗

I didn’t say it was a reason for taking them. But if you didn’t fall into one of those categories there is simply no reason to even think about it.
I respect totally you position and as someone nearing the magical 70s I take exactly the same view. But I cannot find it in me to criticise someone with a serious diabetic issue if they decided to risk it, its their decision.

440818 ▶▶▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to RickH, 2, #1010 of 1661 🔗

And age has actually nothing to do with it. Many older folks survive a sars-cov-2 virus without any problems, the vast majority in fact. Those that die simply have co morbidities, and these increase with age.

The key is general health terrain. If you are infected and in decent health it remains very unlikely being older has anything to do with this to make you worried.

440832 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to LS99, 3, #1011 of 1661 🔗

Simpler version:

Dear You,

My body; my choice!

Yours sincerely,

Me

Should do it!

440745 Jo Starlin, replying to Jo Starlin, 12, #1012 of 1661 🔗

I know many of us have graph fatigue, but this one is so clear and straightforward it bears looking at. Scrolling across it gives the total number of UK recorded deaths since 1887, including 2020.

In 1993, to take one example, there were 658,194 deaths, as opposed to 695,812 last year.

In that period we have added at least 10 million people to the population, which rather puts an extra 37,000 deaths in perspective, no?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/281488/number-of-deaths-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/#:~:text=There%20were%20just%20over%20616,to%20just%20over%20552%20thousand .

I find Statista’s graphs and figures incredibly clear and well presented, would thoroughly recommend.

440749 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Jo Starlin, 1, #1013 of 1661 🔗

Thanks that’s great!

440771 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to Bella Donna, 5, #1014 of 1661 🔗

Thanks Bella. As Rick rightly enough points out below you need to cross-reference it with the relevant year’s population stats, everyone here knows that but you have to think of how stupid the average lockdowner is.

440753 ▶▶ RickH, replying to Jo Starlin, -1, #1015 of 1661 🔗

It’s a pretty meaningless chart, Jo.

Some standardisation methods disappear down a statistical rabbit hole – but basic standardisation against population is essential in order to gain perspective.

440756 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to RickH, 4, #1016 of 1661 🔗

I get that Rick but it only takes a second to do a quick check on the population in any given year though. For example the UK population in 1993 was 57.65 million people, a good ten million lower than now. I’m sure everyone here will read it in those terms.

440788 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Jo Starlin, #1017 of 1661 🔗

People here might, Jo – but most will take it at face value. Population standardisation makes a hell of a difference in terms of immediate message.

440794 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to RickH, #1018 of 1661 🔗

most will take it at face value

True enough, sadly.

440790 ▶▶ peyrole, replying to Jo Starlin, 5, #1019 of 1661 🔗

This is where this site fails us.
There are very clear age and population adjusted charts from the UK Actuaries which should be posted clearly in a statistic section of this site for everyone to use consistently. Its worse than useless for this info to be recalculated by everyone seperately.
Ditto many other useful stats that help destroy every stupid claim by covidians.

440873 ▶▶▶ Jo Starlin, replying to peyrole, #1020 of 1661 🔗

I’d happily have a go at putting together something of my own for a resources section of the site, but to be honest stats presentations aren’t really my strong point. Wonder if any other contributors would be up to it?

440859 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to Jo Starlin, 1, #1021 of 1661 🔗

“In that period we have added at least 10 million people”

And then some…

440747 Bella Donna, replying to Bella Donna, 20, #1022 of 1661 🔗

Strange how the new variants have arrived from the countries the initial vaccine trials were held in, don’t you think? 🤔

440752 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to Bella Donna, 4, #1023 of 1661 🔗

Variants don’t “arrive” from countries, viruses mutate in situ. Variants are named after the country they were first sequenced in.

440760 ▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 10, #1024 of 1661 🔗

I think the UK does about 50% of global sequencing. The more you look the more you find.

440783 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to peyrole, 5, #1025 of 1661 🔗

… which is exactly the point Kary Mullis made about PCR.

440816 ▶▶▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to RickH, #1026 of 1661 🔗

Yes the ‘Buddhist’ molecule, the whole of creation found in a single molecule if you amplify sufficiently.

440785 ▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to peyrole, 1, #1027 of 1661 🔗

I’ve never found any satisactory definitions of “mutation”, “variant”, “strain” or “novel pathogen”.

440811 ▶▶▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to OKUK, #1028 of 1661 🔗

Coronavirus ( if it exists as a seperate entity, yet to be proven) is a virus. Its not ‘alive’. So words like ‘mutation’ are completely innacurate. ‘Type’ may be the only valid description of a change in DNA coding.

441018 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ guy153, replying to peyrole, 1, #1029 of 1661 🔗

You can mutate without being alive. It just means the genome changed a bit.

440856 ▶▶▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to OKUK, 4, #1030 of 1661 🔗

Mutations are tiny changes in a DNA or RNA sequence, due to errors in copying or another factor, which may or may not result in change of function in the enzymes that are coded for. It’s protein enzymes that drive all cellular function (if I remember my medical biochemistry correctly). The mutation may be meaningful, it may not.

“To replicate, and therefore establish infection, SARS-CoV-2 RNA must hijack a host cell and use the cell’s machinery to duplicate itself.

Errors often occur during the process of duplicating the viral RNA. This results in viruses that are similar but not exact copies of the original virus. These errors in the viral RNA are called mutations, and viruses with these mutations are called variants. Variants could differ by a single or many mutations.”
https://theconversation.com/whats-the-difference-between-mutations-variants-and-strains-a-guide-to-covid-terminology-154825

“A variant is a referred to as a strain when it shows distinct physical properties. Put simply, a strain is a variant that is built differently, and so behaves differently, to its parent virus. These behavioural differences can be subtle or obvious.

For example, these differences could involve a variant binding to a different cell receptor, or binding more strongly to a receptor, or replicating more quickly, or transmitting more efficiently, and so on.

Essentially, all strains are variants, but not all variants are strains.”

441173 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to LMS2, #1031 of 1661 🔗

Thanks for this. Very informative. You should be on SAGE! Sorry, too good for that bunch of cowboys!

441010 ▶▶▶▶▶ guy153, replying to OKUK, 1, #1032 of 1661 🔗

Mutation: any change to the genome. Happens a bit most times the virus is copied at all.

Variant: a virus with some new mutations that didn’t immediately kill it. There are tens or hundreds thousands of these.

Strain: a variant that actually performs differently in some way for example is more infectious or killier. There have been between 0 and 2 actual new strains since the pandemic started (opinion varies).

Novel pathogen: something that only just started infecting humans for the first time after having escaped from a lab or a bat/pangolin tag team. These show up about every 10y or so.

440774 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, #1033 of 1661 🔗

Allegedly sequenced in.

440814 ▶▶▶ Banjones, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 6, #1034 of 1661 🔗

I believe Ivor Cummins mentioned a couple of weeks ago that viruses mutate all over the world at about the same rate, so, as you say, they could be called anything. And, of course, it’s very convenient for those who want to keep lockdowns permanent.

440835 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, #1035 of 1661 🔗

Shorthand for a few people infected with the new variant that mutated in the population in Brazil, who came to the UK from Brazil and brought it with them.

440880 ▶▶ mikewaite, replying to Bella Donna, #1036 of 1661 🔗

Yes , Bella, and if there is a connection then it gets more complicated , possibly
The trials were conducted with just a few thousand subjects and it seems to have created variants in each country it has been trialled in . Now the same vaccine has been injected into (ie tested further on ) several millions of UK subjects . So should one then expect a thousand more variants from the UK programme, and from every other country in which it used on millions of their inhabitants?
How will Hancock cope with that possibility?
.

440751 DanClarke, replying to DanClarke, 24, #1037 of 1661 🔗

The variant thing is getting ridiculous

440781 ▶▶ RickH, replying to DanClarke, 15, #1038 of 1661 🔗

“getting”???

440867 ▶▶ penelope pitstop, replying to DanClarke, 6, #1039 of 1661 🔗

yes the problem is that they ‘cry wolf’ so many times on these variants or whatever, but when something serious does come along like say ebola, the public go “yeah right, we’ve heard it all before, on yer bike!” and take no notice.

440755 peyrole, replying to peyrole, 24, #1040 of 1661 🔗

We all know its about money, but its good to keep in front exactly how this works, so the arguments can be clearly made.
To get approvals for a medicine you need to spend a lot of money and time getting the approvals. And each approval is seperate. So if a drug is approved for treating one disease , it will require the same expense and time to get its approval for a different disease. When a drug is used for years and by general consensus works not just for the original agreed purpose but also for associated purposes its licence runs down and its produced by a variety of companies, some very cheaply in say India. It becomes ‘generic’ and its retail value plummets even though its medical value may be incalculable.
This is what has happened to Ivermectin and HCQ.
So who is going to spend millions putting the required testing together to get approval for these drugs for new use, ie against covid? No commercial pharma. Because they spend the money and see the ‘generic’ competitors in India produce for the market and then they make no money.
So who should do the work? Clearly the public health bodies, the WHO, PHE, CDC etc have a duty to do this. But they don’t, because the people in those organisations will not get the back handers from the pharmas. Better by far for them to get rich agreeing to new drugs at cost prices of $1,000-2,000 per tablet/injection.
That is why existing remedial drugs are ignored and vilified , and new drugs are approved at ridiculous costs.
This covid scam might contain many elements but the certain one that is vile and criminal is the quite obvious way that a few will get rich at the cost of perfectly saveable lives.

440809 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to peyrole, #1041 of 1661 🔗

Doesn’t the use of drugs ”off label” apply then, where a doctor believes it to be useful in treating something it wasn’t ”licensed” for?

440823 ▶▶▶ peyrole, replying to Banjones, 1, #1042 of 1661 🔗

Depends on the doctor. If they are more worried about being struck off and made an example of, rather than doing the best for their patient…… Its a brave person ( and there some of them) who will do something they are specifically not to do by the BMA for instance.

440830 ▶▶▶ LMS2, replying to Banjones, #1043 of 1661 🔗

In the U.S., the CDC or whoever, gave permission at one point for medics to use HcQ “off label,” i.e. for CV19, not restricting it to the conditions it’s normally prescribed for.
I can’t remember if they then withdrew that permission.

440757 isobar, replying to isobar, 35, #1044 of 1661 🔗

Some of the reported police antics over the weekend. Best rated comments by DM readers are choice! No wonder the police don’t want to police this kind of stuff anymore.
Woman is confronted by four cops after ‘queuing to buy a coffee TWO MILES from her home in London’ as force warns ‘stick to the rules’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9312095/Drivers-fined-flock-beaches-beauty-spots.html#comments
Best rated comment.

Could the police please point me in the direction of which specific law says someone can’t be more than two miles from their home.

1717 upticks 43 downticks

440807 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to isobar, 8, #1045 of 1661 🔗

More gaslighting. Does the government literally have a “Department for Gaslighting” with its own budget. The DfG

440849 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 2, #1046 of 1661 🔗

Is that how the 77th Brigade have been rebadged

440948 ▶▶▶ PhilipF, replying to CivilianNotCovidian, 2, #1047 of 1661 🔗

Never before has a government spent so much on “public Information”, which mostly seems to consist of epic trolling of the population.

440782 awildgoose, replying to awildgoose, 2, #1048 of 1661 🔗

Czechs enforcing travel rules with 30k troops and coppers:

https://www.breitbart.com/news/czechs-send-30000-police-soldiers-to-enforce-travel-limits/

Commenter from Slovakia mentions similar conditions, mandatory weekly tests.

440789 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to awildgoose, 7, #1049 of 1661 🔗

They’re gonna need ’em. Czechs are sooooo very close to a full scale revolt.

440802 ▶▶ Banjones, replying to awildgoose, 7, #1050 of 1661 🔗

So Slovakia has taken a step backwards as an enlightened country. It was only a month ago they were the first EU country to approve Ivermectin.

440803 ▶▶ CivilianNotCovidian, replying to awildgoose, 3, #1051 of 1661 🔗

Bullshit. Gaslighting.

440791 The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 10, #1052 of 1661 🔗

Really disappointed with Peter Hitchens.

440798 ▶▶ this is my username, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 4, #1053 of 1661 🔗

Yes, me too. I did not expect that. The man is a Christian – why is he allowing this filth to be injected into him?

440808 ▶▶ Mic67, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 1, #1054 of 1661 🔗

Blimey he is milking the attention for all it’s worth though.

Yep – never saw that one coming!

440848 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, #1056 of 1661 🔗

Come on, he’s a journalist, you can’t expect him to have any real integrity.

440851 ▶▶▶ iane, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 2, #1057 of 1661 🔗

Well, maybe, but he is quite an old journalist from the days when there were a few honourable, honest and truthful ones!

440864 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to iane, #1058 of 1661 🔗

Truthful journalists…. hahaha, good one.

440871 ▶▶▶ Alkanet, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 2, #1059 of 1661 🔗

Thanks for confirming this, I had no idea who he was or why LS are so obsessed with him, equally I had no interest in finding out as I and hopefully other LS make our own decisions and act accordingly without the need for role models.

440892 ▶▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Alkanet, 9, #1060 of 1661 🔗

Obsessed? Well, he’s one of a tiny number of MSM journalists who spoke against lockdown very clearly in March 2020, when almost no-one was prepared to do so

And he has done so tirelessly since

Who says he’s a role model? He’s just a man, he didn’t ask to be a role model. He’s a powerful ally and a voice against lockdowns.

I disagree with him when he says the war is lost in so far as I think we should continue to fight, but let’s face it, we are not winning.

440958 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Julian, 4, #1061 of 1661 🔗

We won’t win if we take that view! Never give up, never give in!

440884 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 6, #1062 of 1661 🔗

Well, in what way does what he has said and done demonstrate he has no integrity?

Lots of people on here have been jabbed for various reasons – would you turf them out of the movement too, for impurity?

He is a human being and not the leader of any movement. He has done as much as anyone to fight lockdowns and has not changed his stance. He is pessimistic by nature and who can blame him?

I think he made a tactical error but I think it’s inaccurate to say he has no integrity – he is not pushing the vaccine, in fact he is highlighting how he has been bullied into taking it

440913 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Julian, #1063 of 1661 🔗

How did he demonstrate that he has no integrity after caving in after all of the hours of public jawboning he’s done? That’s what you’re asking? I see.

440985 ▶▶▶▶▶ guy153, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 1, #1064 of 1661 🔗

Whether to have the vaccine and whether to oppose lockdown are two completely different issues.

Although if he is having the vaccine just so he can travel then that’s not a good reason and is kind of caving in. Especially since in spite of the best efforts of Tony Blair there is still hope that that nightmare won’t happen. Not being in a hurry to get vaccinated will also help it not to happen.

441008 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to guy153, 6, #1065 of 1661 🔗

Such a pathetic cop out. This is a full scale assault on our freedoms, not a pick-n-mix in a sweetie shop. Lockdowns are anti-freedom, vaccine coersion is anti-freedom, vaccine passports are anti-freedom, Coronavirus Act is anti-freedom. The whole rotten lot of it is a disgrace. Feel free to play rebel-lets-pretend all you like, but stay the fuck out of the way of people who are prepared to fight to the death for their own personal sovereignty.

441050 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ guy153, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 2, #1066 of 1661 🔗

I am 100% against vaccine coercion and vaccine passports because as you say they are anti-freedom.

But because I am pro-freedom I think everyone should be allowed to have an experimental vaccine if they want. It’s their choice.

441074 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to guy153, 1, #1067 of 1661 🔗

I agree. But an outspoken critic and champion of freedom either has a responsibility to the freedom he is championing so publicly and vocally, or he is full of shit, or worse, harmful.

441082 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to guy153, 1, #1068 of 1661 🔗

provided it is an informed choice presumably?

441248 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ guy153, replying to Major Panic, #1069 of 1661 🔗

Of course yes. Including telling people the truth about the risk posed by the disease itself, which, since most surveys say is overestimated by about 10x, equates to a relative risk of 10% or an efficacy of 90%.

It basically goes: Moderna, Pfizer, The Truth, J&J, AZ.

441089 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 1, #1070 of 1661 🔗

Since the lockdowns are the principal coercive measure to enforce uptake of the vax, they cannot be presented as separate issues. It is utterly naive to think they can.

440860 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 10, #1071 of 1661 🔗

Peter Hitchens statement on this read like a statement made by a hostage under threat of torture by his captives. One of his arguments is that he took the Covid Potion to facilitate International Travel, well I expect many could eventually be faced by that choice but it seems premature to take it now for that reason. There is a lot of water to go under the bridge on this issue and to my mind every reason to procrastinate. He said that if he did not do it now it might be too late, which seemed a very poor argument, the World seems awash with all sorts of versions of this stuff and I am sure that they will be pushing it for months to come, to whoever will take it.
I also felt he let himself down by majoring on abstract academic reasoning and did not sufficiently bring his great intellect to bear on the technical aspects of this. There seem to be a least 4 very different technologies being used for these potions, mostly at the moment we have examples of the first 2 scary weirdo types.
I may eventually be forced to do something so that I can travel overseas and visit my family but I am hanging on to the last minute; with a bit of luck if I do need to do something? the rather more traditional type administered as a nasal spray might have become available.

440874 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Steve Martindale, 3, #1072 of 1661 🔗

The Pfizer and. Modern ‘vaccines’ use mRNA technology, the Astra Zeneca and Johnson and Johnson ones use DNA technology. They are all experimental gene therapy medical devices rather than true vaccines

440897 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #1073 of 1661 🔗

Why are people downvoting this post? If we start turning on our own because of their perceived ideological impurity or human weakness then we’re lost and that kind of thing does more damage than anything PH has done

441170 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #1074 of 1661 🔗

I think there will be Court action about this which will be very winnable given the Nurenberg Code and the fact recipients of these Synthetic Gene Therapies (SGTs) are taking part in a mass, international human trial.

440951 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 5, #1075 of 1661 🔗

Me too. I thought he was made of sterner stuff. We all have family abroad, some we haven’t seen in a while but I will not be jabbed for anyone!

440792 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 19, #1076 of 1661 🔗

Are they now just openly taking the piss? This is the photo of M Hancock on the BBC live feed to announce the press conference. I don’t know about you, but it looks like he’s sticking two fingers up at the British public! I’ve edited the photo to protect the squeamish.

440796 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to godowneasy, 6, #1077 of 1661 🔗

Nah, he’s thinking about all the coin he’s made with this caper.

440843 ▶▶ iane, replying to godowneasy, 6, #1078 of 1661 🔗

Uptick for your kind consideration!

440804 Smelly Melly, replying to Smelly Melly, 8, #1079 of 1661 🔗

I’ve been trying unsuccessfully for decades to get the wife to have a Brazilian, now with any luck she might get it.

440836 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Smelly Melly, 15, #1080 of 1661 🔗

Apparently there might be 6 cases of it in the whole country. Sounds like a close shave. 🙂

440846 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, 4, #1081 of 1661 🔗

Ha Ha Nice One!

441094 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Smelly Melly, 1, #1082 of 1661 🔗

Well she’s got more chance of getting a Brazillian than getting anywhere near a ‘landing strip’ now that we can’t fly anywhere.

440805 LMS2, replying to LMS2, 24, #1083 of 1661 🔗

[PDF] Transcript testimony Reiner Fuellmich
http://www.aeginagreece.com › 2020/12

https://www.ukcolumn.org/community/forums/topic/reiner-fuellmich-with-other-german-lawyers-class-action/

We have seen what has been confirmed time and time again: the degree of danger posed by the virus is about the same as that of seasonal flu, regardless of whether it is a new virus (wholly or partially manufactured) or whether we are simply dealing with a flu renamed “Covid-19 pandemic”. In the meantime, Drosten’s PCR tests cannot even tell us anything about contagious infections. To make matters worse, the health and economic damage caused by anti-covid measures has been so devastating that we have to speak of a level of destruction that is historically unique. »

“The fact that health has never been an issue is particularly obvious, except that injections of genetically experimental substances disguised as “vaccinations” are now cauing serious damage, including fatal consequences, on a mass scale. The world population has been used as guinea pigs for these experimental gene injections both gradually and extremely rapidly. In order to plunge the population into panic, dangerous and harmful containment measures (even according to the WHO) of compulsory, unnecessary and dangerous mask-wearing and social distancing, unnecessary and counterproductive, were introduced. The population was thus “ready” for the injections.”

440868 ▶▶ popo says, replying to LMS2, 1, #1084 of 1661 🔗

There is an informative video [on ‘Co-immunity’ ] with Sunetra Gupta and her magic slides which explains the more reasonable line on Covid-variant and modelling controversy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_8FBd2IMMU
[17 FEB]

440888 ▶▶ Harry hopkins, replying to LMS2, 17, #1085 of 1661 🔗

Considering that Reiner Fuellmich was instrumental in exposing the VW exhaust scam and the Deutsche bank corruption fraud—resulting in that bank paying a $130 million dollar fine—we could not have a more capable, successful person heading up this class action.

When you consider that in the red corner you have Reiner Fuellmich with his team and record of unsurpassed success and in the blue corner (in the UK anyway) we have Neil Ferguson, Matt Hancock and the blonde waste of space known as our PM, it seems to me a bit like a contest between an elephant and a pack of flies.

Leaders around the world will be following this class action with not a little apprehension. The charges include ‘crimes against humanity’. This will make the horror, the panic and the fear of what is around the corner cause them to lose not a little sleep when the great masses around the world wake up to the immense damage that has been perpetrated on them.

440945 ▶▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Harry hopkins, 1, #1086 of 1661 🔗

Yes I wonder if that was the reason the W.H.O issued new guidelines on the number of cycles for PCR tests. Less cycles = less cases = Pandemic over.

441156 ▶▶▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Bella Donna, 2, #1087 of 1661 🔗

The reason for the WHO guidelines might lie in a link recently posted. The pharma companies have agreed not to profit from vaccines until after the pandemic is over and not before July 1st. Hence the rush to pump it in everyone’s arm while it is cheaper for governments, and the desire to lower numbers by the pharma sponsored WHO.

441262 ▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Harry hopkins, 5, #1088 of 1661 🔗

I have spent most of the day watching and reading many of the transcripts and meetings held by Reiner Fuellmich and his team.

I genuinely think they are our greatest hope. If he can just win one case, in one court then I think the whole house of cards collapses. Interestingly what is becoming apparent (to their amazement) is how many different countries around the world are doing and saying the EXACT same thing, right down to the ‘killing granny’ statements. This, they are saying, is no accident.

The vaccine reports are horrendous. Videos of old people dying, being held down and forcibly vaccinated. Soldiers standing over them to ensure it’s done. The witness statements, whistleblower reports, scientific evidence it’s all stacking up.

Lets really really hope this guy pulls this off. He really is, I think, the only chance for this whole nightmare to be properly destroyed and never happen again.

441285 ▶▶▶▶ SimonCook, replying to Redundant Pilot, 1, #1089 of 1661 🔗

I have to say RP, that he gives me hope too. It’s amazing what his team and all the contributors are doing and it is essential viewing.

I hope this comes across the right way (as I genuinely mean it positively!). His unflustered manner and steely reassurance remind me of the best Bayern Munich or German managers as they cruise to another CL, Euros or WC win.

441302 ▶▶▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to SimonCook, 2, #1090 of 1661 🔗

I know, he’s such a cool guy. I love the switching from English to German without hesitation.

They’ve just got to do this, like I read somewhere, this is the most important case of his life…..of all our lives really.

441306 ▶▶▶▶ Harry hopkins, replying to Redundant Pilot, 1, #1091 of 1661 🔗

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Reiner Fuellmich and his team really are the catalyst to bring this whole scam down on the ears of the corrupt perpetrators.
This, coupled with increased resistance to ridiculous rules and edicts that are becoming increasingly laughable by the day will see the likes of Johnson and his cohorts well and truly stuffed.

441317 ▶▶▶▶▶ Redundant Pilot, replying to Harry hopkins, 1, #1092 of 1661 🔗

And hopefully in prison…..

441385 ▶▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Redundant Pilot, 1, #1093 of 1661 🔗

Yes, he is our greatest hope. There is no doubt of that.

441380 ▶▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Harry hopkins, 1, #1094 of 1661 🔗

I have been delightedly following everything concerning Dr Reiner Fuellmich since October last year when he first came to my attention.
He also took on and exposed the scandalous Deutche Bank.He has a wonderful team working on this class action. May God be with him and the team for these crimes against humanity to be fully exposed.

440820 Cumbriacracked, replying to Cumbriacracked, #1095 of 1661 🔗

Has anyone got a link to the actual legislation for the changes contained with “the roadmap”. I can find all the guidance but not the actual legislation. I have checked the SI’s published for 22-25 Feb but none cover it. Thank you

440831 ▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Cumbriacracked, 3, #1096 of 1661 🔗

I am not aware that any legislation has yet been finalised and published, you may already have this link but in case that is not the case this is the link to the Hansard coronavirus legislation dashboard;
https://www.hansardsociety.org.uk/publications/data/coronavirus-statutory-instruments-dashboard#list-of-coronavirus-sis

440840 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Steve Martindale, 1, #1097 of 1661 🔗

Thank you, so it seems the reason I couldn’t find the law is there isn’t any yet only once again the mythical guidance. For those of us trying to reschedule events it is not helpful is it!

440845 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Cumbriacracked, 2, #1098 of 1661 🔗

You’ll be lucky to see anything until about 5 to midnight the night before each change come in (if it does); this has been Handjob’s MO up till now. The SI is then laid before Parliament the following morning.

I’m not 100% on that, so happy to be corrected.

440863 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Ceriain, 2, #1099 of 1661 🔗

Yes leopards do not change their spots. So even though “freedoms” are supposedly being given nobody can actually plan anything.

440953 ▶▶ ShropshireLass, replying to Cumbriacracked, 1, #1100 of 1661 🔗

Cumbriacracked The existing amendments to the S. I. legislation passed on 5 January which came into force on 6th January remain in force until 31st March. I believe those are still on the government website – they were last week anyway. Basically as hopefully most of us know, they are what matter as the Guidance is just a list of recommendations – not legally enforceable however hard overzealous police (and a few rare judges) try.

440828 isobar, replying to isobar, 15, #1101 of 1661 🔗


Squirmer and Dungford backing ‘tougher border rules’
‘Plans for holidays abroad from May this year are ‘too soon’: Labour accuses ministers of raising false hopes and demands even TOUGHER border rules to combat variant Covid threat’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9312975/Plans-holidays-abroad-year-soon.html

DM readers aren’t buying it

Best rated comment: (early days yet)

‘Labour are not in any position to demand anything’



440877 ▶▶ Julian, replying to isobar, 2, #1102 of 1661 🔗

The trouble with the border business is that while people are pissed off about not being able to go on holiday, it plays well with the xenophobe sections of the population (I’m not big on mass immigration but obviously against covid related travel restrictions)

440901 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Julian, 2, #1103 of 1661 🔗

Yes, you absolutely right, it also dovetails nicely into the problem with the dingy people, especially as they are reportedly re-importing the ‘UK variant’

see video by Farage a day or so ago.

440969 ▶▶ LMS2, replying to isobar, 3, #1104 of 1661 🔗

Telegraph readers aren’t buying it either.

440841 Smelly Melly, replying to Smelly Melly, 25, #1105 of 1661 🔗

The appears to be a lot of fuss in the papers about “vaccine passports”. As we cannot travel for the foreseeable future, what’s the point in 1. having the “vaccine” and 2. the passport. In x months or years time the so called vaccine will be irrelevant as the politicians and bedwetters will be wanting a vaccine for the Martian variant or where ever.

440853 ▶▶ TheClone, replying to Smelly Melly, 13, #1106 of 1661 🔗

After introducing the vaxx passport the government will come with the requirement of a new vaxx every 3-6 months. Just business, nothing personal.

440896 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to TheClone, 5, #1107 of 1661 🔗

Weekly jabs.

Then daily.

Then hourly.

Then…

441090 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to awildgoose, #1108 of 1661 🔗

We die of collapsed veins, like heroin addicts?

440875 ▶▶ Richy_m_99, replying to Smelly Melly, 13, #1109 of 1661 🔗

It will only take one of the EU countries to decline to participate, and the whole this falls down completely anyway. You take France, that has nearly 1000 miles of land borders with 7 different countries. How do you think they would enforce vaccine passports once travel opens up. Imagine the chaos of stopping every vehicle on the motorways or their equivalent in rush hours, as Belgium or Luxembourg workers on the border try to get to work.

440881 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Richy_m_99, 5, #1110 of 1661 🔗

It would also blow their commitment to Schengen out the window.

441103 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Ceriain, #1111 of 1661 🔗

Silver lining, etc. … 🙂

440904 ▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Richy_m_99, 8, #1112 of 1661 🔗

You can imagine the situation, family travel to France, grandparents in the car are over 65. AZ vaccine accepted in France, they show their vaccine passports. On travelling through Europe, they reach Germany. We do not accept the AZ vaccines for the over 65’s so your vaccine passports are not valid. Everyone can enter Germany other than the grand parents.

441003 ▶▶▶ JayBee, replying to Richy_m_99, 7, #1113 of 1661 🔗

I count on France.
Vaccine hesitancy and scepticism is HUGE there.

441069 ▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to JayBee, 6, #1114 of 1661 🔗

I’m counting on Black, Asian and minority ethnic people.

441098 ▶▶▶▶ The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to JayBee, 4, #1115 of 1661 🔗

Yes, I’m hoping France might do us a favour here.

441068 ▶▶▶ crimsonpirate, replying to Richy_m_99, 2, #1116 of 1661 🔗

it’ll also cause havoc for anyone in the Jungle in Calais trying to get to England

440854 Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 20, #1117 of 1661 🔗

Remember when Jean Charles De Menezes was shot in the tube in London due to a massive bungle by evil ole Cressida Dick?

Dick Chaney was overheard whispering to George Bush’s ear:
“Sir the British have killed a Brazilian”

“A Brazilian!!!!” Said George Bush

“How many is that????”

440857 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Two-Six, 3, #1118 of 1661 🔗

Ba Dum Tish! 🙂

440870 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Two-Six, 4, #1119 of 1661 🔗

It was lucky that the emergency services had been practicing for that exact scenario before the bombings took place. What a stroke of luck. Well, not for poor old Jean of course. But wow, what are the odds, just another crazy coincidence.

440876 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 6, #1120 of 1661 🔗

Peter Powers. Imagine my surprise when the exercise we were running on suicide bombers in in tube trains turned into a real live scenario, in all the tube stations we were simulation the attacks in!!
Incredible…what a co-incidence….
I love cool aid.

440889 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Two-Six, 2, #1121 of 1661 🔗

OH, YEAAHH!

440894 ▶▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 2, #1122 of 1661 🔗

perfect, red flavour too

440935 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1123 of 1661 🔗

🤣

441041 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Two-Six, 4, #1124 of 1661 🔗

It wasn’t a ‘bungle’. If we only learn one thing from the last year, it should be that our government lies to us for a living.

440855 Bugle, replying to Bugle, 13, #1125 of 1661 🔗

They never intended to let anybody go on holiday.

440861 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Bugle, 13, #1126 of 1661 🔗

They are going round in circles, people not taking the vaccine in high enough numbers, advise the MSM to push vaccine passports and no holidays. Hope eventually the population will think if I agree to a vaccine and a passport I will be allowed to go on holiday.

440865 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Bugle, 15, #1127 of 1661 🔗

The whole scamdemic is leading up to this, its the last threat they have before it’s too late and the virus is gone, the sheeple will not take much more bullshit, the window of opportunity closes.

440878 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 7, #1128 of 1661 🔗

Had a chat with my neighbours. They both got the jab because they work with vulnerable adults (they say).

They know I’m on the CEV list, so asked if I’d had the jab. “Nope!” says I. No “why?” or “are you sure?” from them. Have to say I thought that damned decent of them.

They are hoping to go abroad this summer. I told them I wouldn’t plan anything definite. Their Plan B is to head to Perth in Scotland.

I’ve offered them twice-weekly Glaswegian lessons to get them passed Krankie’s border guards, in case they need it.

440887 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1129 of 1661 🔗

They will never pick it up in time. I went into a butchers shop up that way once, the butcher was very easy to understand, he was trying so hard to for us English shoppers, then when I asked him how he chops up a lamb, his enthusiasm took over and honestly, I couldn’t understand a word he said.

I though I did, my family are Scots but as I walked out the shop after a few minutes, I realised I had understood almost nothing.
That was funny.

440891 ▶▶ kenadams, replying to Ceriain, 7, #1130 of 1661 🔗

In a bar in Glasgow was the only time in my life when I really, truly, genuinely could not understand a word the barman was saying to me. It was actually quite embarrassing. It was even worse than when I visit my other half’s family on the west coast of Ireland…

441311 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to kenadams, #1131 of 1661 🔗

Face knickers help communication a storm, too.

440886 LMS2, replying to LMS2, 18, #1132 of 1661 🔗

Kristi Noem slams “WRONG A LOT” Dr. Fauci in CPAC speech
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4dwsofHVg9w

Didn’t shut down South Dakota.
Didn’t have 10,000 patients needing intensive care, as predicted by Dr.Fauci, but 600.
Didn’t destroy the economy of S.Dakota.

440916 ▶▶ isobar, replying to LMS2, 6, #1133 of 1661 🔗

Phenomenal speech. Wish that we had politicians like that!

440933 ▶▶▶ ShropshireLass, replying to isobar, 7, #1134 of 1661 🔗

Could do with her as President of the USA – and a clone of her as PM of England

440950 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to LMS2, 3, #1135 of 1661 🔗

She rocks. Anyone have her phone number?! 🙂

440890 LMS2, replying to LMS2, 12, #1136 of 1661 🔗

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rKmcSghhybU

Unherd TV: Politicians of Left and Right join forces to challenge lockdowns

Sir Charles Walker and Sir David Blunkett.

440932 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to LMS2, 1, #1137 of 1661 🔗

Better late than never.

440895 JHUNTZ, replying to JHUNTZ, 7, #1138 of 1661 🔗

Anyone travel regularly and aware if border force check your reason for going? I’d really love to go somewhere normal like Sweden even for a weekend just to see what life use to be like.

440930 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to JHUNTZ, 6, #1139 of 1661 🔗

Actually that could be a lucrative tourist business, bussing tourists around showing them what the real normal used to be like.

441083 ▶▶ The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, replying to JHUNTZ, 4, #1140 of 1661 🔗

Hello, I went to Sweden literally on the first day of lockdown 2. No police checks whatsoever leaving Heathrow, however, I was unlucky enough to be subject to a spot check at Border control coming back to check I’d filled out my quarantine form. I had. The border officer seemed very casual and laid back, simply saying ’14 days!’

I’m not sure if my trip was illegal or not, but if challenged I would have simply said I was going for ‘work’ purposes, as I do make some money from my photography.

I really enjoyed Sweden. Stockholm is a beautiful city and it was lovely to visit pubs again. A few daft screens in some shops and the odd face muzzle but otherwise pretty relaxed. The Swedes seemed intelligent and well informed, although, like us, fairly compliant. That said, I remember a female proprietor of one restaurant saying that it was ‘scary how easy it is to control people’. How true.

I love travelling and miss it a lot. Unfortunately, the countries I enjoy touring most (France and Spain) also have some pretty despotic restrictions, the worst being the bloody masks everywhere! No exemptions there, so even worse than here in that regard.

If they bring out those dread vax passports, I will sadly not be travelling again.

441149 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, 2, #1141 of 1661 🔗

Makes me nostalgic fir Sweden,
Spent a very pleasant holiday there once, could live there if freedom vanishes from Gulag Wales for ever.

441196 ▶▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to The Mask Exempt Covid Marshall, #1142 of 1661 🔗

I also love Sweden. Beautiful and just a great fit for me. Unlike Denmark. Contemplating how one might purchase property there one day…

440898 Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 7, #1143 of 1661 🔗

Just hearsay at the moment, but my nephew told my mom that teachers now have to wear goggles. My daughter just started her final school placement as a teacher candidate but in a different school district so I’ll ask her if she has heard of this or if it’s school board or school specific. I do despair and am amazed at what people will put up with, or worse, force other people to put up with. I’m already upset that my daughter will be masked up now every day for the foreseeable future. I see space suits on the horizon.

440902 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 5, #1144 of 1661 🔗

ug what a nighmare

440912 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 2, #1145 of 1661 🔗

Are your teachers and their unions as bad as they are here, Lisa?

440997 ▶▶▶ Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, replying to Ceriain, 2, #1146 of 1661 🔗

YES! A recent mini scandal is that one of the so-called “scientists” advising the provincial government on school openings and closings was being paid by the teachers’ union.

441143 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Lisa (formerly) from Toronto, 1, #1147 of 1661 🔗

The mind goggles.

My sympathies to your daughter.

440899 kenadams, replying to kenadams, 6, #1148 of 1661 🔗

Anyone brave enough to watch Hancock and let us know what he’s saying?

440908 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to kenadams, 1, #1149 of 1661 🔗

Eight minutes past and he’s not turned up yet. I’m staring at 3 empty lecterns.

440929 ▶▶ iansn, replying to kenadams, 1, #1150 of 1661 🔗

i did very briefly, too much to take vaccines over 80s blah

440900 Stephen Williams, 7, #1151 of 1661 🔗

Has anyone been to Zanzibar? Does it have a deadly variant yet?

Looks like the route home for me from South Africa is two weeks in Zanzibar and a rubber dinghy across the channel.

I only left the UK pertfectly legally.

440903 Mic67, replying to Mic67, 7, #1152 of 1661 🔗

In March last year, I joined a monthly QMUL CV research study that involved a number of questions about travel, risk factors etc via survey.

There was also a VIT D trial which I am part of, and then towards the end of last year we sent in blood samples for antibody testing.

Three months later, the antibody tests have still not come back as apparently there is a ‘hold up in processing’. I’ve have stated my concerns in that I believe they are not sending them back because they are worried about it affecting uptake of the vaccine. It’s put me off the whole thing to be honest.

440915 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Mic67, 5, #1153 of 1661 🔗

That’s a very strong possibility. Nothing must stand in the way of jabbing the population!

440910 Bella Donna, replying to Bella Donna, 14, #1154 of 1661 🔗

This

440918 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to Bella Donna, 3, #1155 of 1661 🔗

hahahaha!

440920 Bella Donna, replying to Bella Donna, 10, #1156 of 1661 🔗

Answer me this, if Hancock doesn’t have the jab because he says he has already had Covid, does he get to have a vaccine passport?

440931 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Bella Donna, 5, #1157 of 1661 🔗

has he said he doesn’t need the jab? I thought they told us that natural immunity isn’t good enough and we need manmade potion immunity?

I have had covid – can I use this as an excuse not to get the jab?

440980 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to steve_w, #1158 of 1661 🔗

Some people have had Covid and the jab.

440995 ▶▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Bugle, 2, #1159 of 1661 🔗

The ones I know reacted worst when they had had covid before

440999 ▶▶▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to steve_w, #1160 of 1661 🔗

Not surprised.

441038 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ Silke David, replying to Bugle, 7, #1161 of 1661 🔗

I read about an 80+y old, a few days after leaving hospital after pneumonia and a +test got injected, of course died.
It is clearly stated by the vaccine companies that people who had a +test within 3 months before NOT to vaccinate them! The person authorising the vaccine without checking his medical history needs to be prosecuted.

441080 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Silke David, 6, #1162 of 1661 🔗

You are absolutely right. However, getting the NHS Doctor who authorised the vaccine identified by the NHS will be deemed to be “ Too many people were involved with the decision to identify any one key person ….”. The NHS use this a lot in medical negligence claims. However, they should be prosecuted for Manslaughter as it is their duty, professional duty, to ensure they have up-to-date knowledge about medical procedures for which they are responsible. Clearly, whoever authorised it had not read the guidance.

441216 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to steve_w, 1, #1163 of 1661 🔗

Don’t see why not Steve_w. Surely you are immune from that particular virus now. Oh just forgot new science indicates you won’t be immune. Silly me!

440921 Ross Hendry, replying to Ross Hendry, 1, #1164 of 1661 🔗

A lot of people seem miffed that Peter Hitchens is having/has had the jab. Why? If you’re confident in your decision not to be injected with a no doubt filthy and poorly tested concoction you wouldn’t give a hoot about anyone else’s choice: clearly some are not so confident.

It’s his funeral (possibly literally) – let him get on with it.

440954 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Ross Hendry, 2, #1165 of 1661 🔗

Must admit I’m a bit confused with the HooHaa about Hitchins having the vaccine – he has always against mandatory lockdown restrictions and being forced to wear a mask, but…

he has chosen to have the vaccine – there is no foreign travel yet and there are no rules re proof of vax yet – so he’s simply chosen to be jabbed for his own reasons – but not forced.

I am still glad of his anti mandatory lockdown and mask stance.

i choose not to have the vaccine for now, I’ll wait n see what pans out re international travel and jab proof.

441035 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Major Panic, 3, #1166 of 1661 🔗

There’s an awful lot of mouthy virtue-signalling aimed at Hitchens. I don’t agree with him on this, and I’ve disagreed with him on a lot of things before Covid But it’s his decision for entirely understandable reasons – he hasn’t endorsed the bloody stuff.

I wish the armchair anti-fascists would stop behaving like the slogan-shouting censors they purport to abhor.

441059 ▶▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to RickH, -2, #1167 of 1661 🔗

Well said.

440955 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Ross Hendry, 16, #1168 of 1661 🔗

It is his abject surrender to the totalitarian future that is the issue.
He claimed he took the vaccine under duress because at some point he wants to travel abroad.He chose to publicise this fact in a highly defeatist column claiming we have lost our freedom.
If he wants to give up,that his choice.

440965 ▶▶▶ Mic67, replying to jonathan Palmer, 11, #1169 of 1661 🔗

I’m annoyed that he keeps stating that everyone must now accept defeat.

440988 ▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Mic67, 6, #1170 of 1661 🔗

As I said that’s his choice.He should just shut up now.If he has given into despair then he should live with it.We have all had dark moments but if you just give up it changes nothing.We haven’t even begun to oppose this but the mood in the country is changing.

440993 ▶▶▶▶ Alice, replying to Mic67, -3, #1171 of 1661 🔗

I think we may have to accept defeat at some point in future – but for now, there’s still hope.

441071 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Alice, 8, #1172 of 1661 🔗

I don’t think we have to accept defeat. The Govt seem to be now on a rapid retreat strategy before the merde hits the fan and blows all the lies they have told out of the water. International court cases are abounding, videos such as some of those posted here are getting through in larger numbers now. If the Govt don’t rapidly retreat and keep on advancing this tyranny, they will find themselves in the Dock. Better to retreat now whilst they look like the victors of the war.

441028 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to jonathan Palmer, 2, #1173 of 1661 🔗

It’s not beyond the bounds of possibility that his early, almost single-handed, scepticism was part of the plan, and therefore widely promoted. And that he, one of our ‘leaders’, would swiftly grab a jab.

Wise as serpents, etc. etc.

441045 ▶▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to JohnB, 1, #1174 of 1661 🔗

I don’t think so.For years he has claimed the country is finished.He styles himself as the nations obituary writer.The personal attacks must have taken their toll and he has just given up.

441002 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Ross Hendry, 1, #1175 of 1661 🔗

Agree. It’s all got a bit ridiculous really.

441043 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Ross Hendry, 6, #1176 of 1661 🔗

He’s just another gobshite plastic rebel. Lockdowns and experimental vaccine coercion and vaccine passports and the Coronavirus Act are an assault on our freedoms. He’s happy to bask in the adulation of his Twitterphants but when the rubber hits the road, he chokes. Hilarious.

440922 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 5, #1177 of 1661 🔗

Handjob is delighted at the number of people who have had the jab. He’s proud of everyone involved. We are so much better than everyone else. Common mission, blah, blah.

Well done to the MHRA (best in the world); Civil Service ‘grit’; local volunteers.

And the public for their magnificent support.

Blah, blah, drone, waffle.

440925 ▶▶ Bella Donna, replying to Ceriain, 3, #1178 of 1661 🔗

He hasn’t had it.

440979 ▶▶ Hellonearth, replying to Ceriain, 6, #1179 of 1661 🔗

I turned the tv on and it was on BBC 1. I couldn’t get to the remote quick enough to turn over and not have to look at Wancock’s face or indeed hear his whining bloody voice. There are some brave souls on this site who listen to him and other sociopaths, I think there should be medals given out for their valiance!.

441208 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Hellonearth, #1180 of 1661 🔗

Hear hear

441231 ▶▶▶ Edward, replying to Hellonearth, #1181 of 1661 🔗

I usually set the channel to Yesterday or Talking Pictures TV before switching off, and if I want to check the sports news on BBC red button I set it to BBC4.

441000 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Ceriain, 2, #1182 of 1661 🔗

Has Victory been declared? Sounds like he’s gearing up to award himself a triple knighthood.

440924 Two-Six, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1183 of 1661 🔗

Petition Consider urgent action to grant specialist vape retailers essential statusGrant specialist vape stores essential retail status allowing them to operate in a safe and controlled manner and help prevent a reversal of the progress in reducing smoking numbers. The removal of access to these products and services could have a lasting effect in the public health of the nation.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/574108

440936 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Two-Six, 2, #1184 of 1661 🔗

Yes, Public Health England have said that vaping is up to 95% safer than smoking. Not recommending that non smokers take up vaping but given that advice from PHE, if smokers want to switch, closing Vape Shops is bonkers.

440941 ▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to isobar, #1185 of 1661 🔗

smoking V vaping, no contest. Vaping is almost totally harmless. In fact by the looks of things the nicotine in it prevents people from developing bad COVID19.

440949 ▶▶▶▶ Mic67, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1186 of 1661 🔗

Signed. I’ve said this all year!

440996 ▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Two-Six, #1187 of 1661 🔗

Have people learnt nothing ? Please refer us to the peer-reviewed double-blind safety tests, lasting a few years.

Till then, it’s just more manipulative propaganda.

440984 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to Two-Six, #1188 of 1661 🔗

Really ? Is this a ‘sucking off dogs’ follow up ?

440992 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to JohnB, #1189 of 1661 🔗

lolled at that

440927 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 15, #1190 of 1661 🔗

He’s doing slides.

All the numbers are down, and it’s all thanks to the vaccine.

Less grannies dying! NHS being saved! Yay!

Shit! He could cry in a minute.

I’m glad I don’t have a scratch and sniff monitor. 😉

440934 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Ceriain, 16, #1191 of 1661 🔗

if its all down to the vaccine then that’s an admittance lockdowns don’t work?

441206 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to steve_w, 2, #1192 of 1661 🔗

Let’s wait and see what happens a few months after people have had the second vaccine!

440939 ▶▶ kh1485, replying to Ceriain, 9, #1193 of 1661 🔗

Taking one for the team again Ceriain! You must be made of stern stuff.

441088 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Ceriain, 6, #1194 of 1661 🔗

Thanks for watching. I was not available myself as I was busy removing my eyes with an olive stoner.

440938 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 10, #1195 of 1661 🔗

Sunak to throw more money at the vaccine program. Kerching!

Money to be used to develop new vaccines to fight variants.

Next, the ‘Variants of Concern’. We have all to remain ‘vigilant’.

We may all need a third jab to keep the variants away.

Stay at home, let fresh air in… brighter days ahead.

440947 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Ceriain, 1, #1196 of 1661 🔗

Thought that the ‘Stay at Home’ rule would be reprised.

440940 Johnsontown, replying to Johnsontown, 9, #1197 of 1661 🔗

An aside – Chris Mason, BBC political correspondent, telling us what to look out for at the conference on the BBC website:

“Firstly, how much will the government be willing to acknowledge that its border controls weren’t up to the job in keeping out this Brazilian variant? […]

And secondly, given one of the conditions of the government sticking to its timetable for lockdown easing in England is there not being variants that change the calculation of risks, what tone will the Health Secretary Matt Hancock strike?

Could this Brazilian variant mean we have to wait longer for the return of our liberties?”

Note how this is framed entirely in a way that stokes fear (new variant!) and primes us to expect – even desire – longer, more draconian lockdowns. It’s utterly blatant. Why not ask instead why the “road map” is so cautious etc.

440987 ▶▶ Julian, replying to Johnsontown, 8, #1198 of 1661 🔗

The BBC for some reason known to themselves seem to have decided collectively that we should live in a permanent state of medical emergency

I get why power mad politicians want to, but what’s in it for Chris Mason? I mean, he gets to report on “important” and “exciting” stuff for longer, but does he really want to live in this shit world? They can’t all be crazed or lizards at the BBC, surely?

441016 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Julian, -1, #1199 of 1661 🔗

The power of group-think. Especially if engineered. Remember, a complete (as opposed to the usual generalised establishment type) government shill was put in as DG recently.

441017 ▶▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Julian, 1, #1200 of 1661 🔗

Perhaps some of Billy’s cash filters down to him Adam EU Fleming, Cluelessburg and the the rest on BBC FAKE News.

441023 ▶▶▶ Bugle, replying to Julian, 3, #1201 of 1661 🔗

What you have to remember is that staff at the BBC are brainwashed all year round. Endless diversity training, unconscious bias, micro-aggressions. Anyone with a mind of their own would have left by now.

441081 ▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Julian, 4, #1202 of 1661 🔗

My theory is that the BBC and the government did a deal whereby the government promised to ease off on scrapping the licence fee in return for support over lockdowns.

Eg, has anyone seen or heard anything on the BBC about most of the lockdown prosecutions being overturned? There’s nothing on their website about it but the Independent and the Mail have covered the story.

440942 Helen, replying to Helen, 5, #1203 of 1661 🔗

‘There were little faces which should have been handsome, darkened with the scowl of sullen, dogged suffering; there was childhood with the light of its eye quenched, its beauty gone, and its helplessness alone remaining; there were vicious-faced boys, brooding, with leaden eyes, like malefactors in a jail; and there were young creatures on whom the sins of their frail parents had descended, weeping even for the mercenary nurses they had known, and lonesome even in their loneliness. With every kindly sympathy and affection blasted in its birth, with every young and healthy feeling flogged and starved down, with every revengeful passion that can fester in swollen hearts, eating its evil way to their core in silence, what an incipient Hell was breeding here ! Nicholas Nickleby : Charles Dickens
Schools have sunk almost to the depths of Dotheboys Hall and teachers Squeers!

Although children are at minimal risk from coronavirus they being subject to harms according to the following studies:-

 EYES
Face Mask-Associated Ocular Irritation and Dryness Majid Moshirfar William B. West, Jr. ,4 and Douglas P. Marx 2
During the current coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) epidemic, the concern for reducing disease transmission has led to a worldwide increase in face mask utilization. During this period, we have observed a corresponding increase in ocular irritation and dryness among regular mask users. This finding has not been previously described in the literature but has important implications on eye health and infection prevention, as mask use is likely to continue for the foreseeable future.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7362770/

HEART
COVID 19 – Masks on or off?April 17, 2020 Tom Jefferson, Carl Heneghan
The hypercapnic hypoxia may potentially increase acidic environment, cardiac overload, anaerobic metabolism and renal overload, which may substantially aggravate the underlying pathology of established chronic diseases. Further contrary to the earlier thought, no evidence exists to claim the facemasks during exercise offer additional protection from the droplet transfer of the virus. Hence, we recommend social distancing is better than facemasks during exercise and optimal utilization rather than exploitation of facemasks during exercise.
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-masks-on-or-off/

MULTIPLE HARMS
Should individuals in the community without respiratory symptoms wear facemasks to reduce the spread of COVID-19?
Folkehelseinstituttet / Norwegian Institute of Public Health
Camilla Stoltenberg, Director-General
The undesirable effects of facemasks include the risks of incorrect use, a false sense of security (leading to relaxation of other interventions), and contamination of masks. In addi- tion, some people experience problems breathing, discomfort, and problems with commu- nication. The proportion of people who experience these undesirable effects is uncertain. However, with a low prevalence of COVID-19, the number of people who experience unde- sirable effects is likely to be much larger than the number of infections prevented

https://www.fhi.no/globalassets/dokumenterfiler/rapporter/2020/should-individuals-in-the-community-without-respiratory-symptoms-wear-facemasks-to-reduce-the-spread-of-covid-19-report-2020.pdf

441136 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Helen, 3, #1204 of 1661 🔗

The last sentence is the clincher.
Face-knickering yourself is self-harm. Forcing face knickers on another person is assault. Putting face knickers on a child is just plain wicked.

440943 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 11, #1205 of 1661 🔗

Susan Hopkins now talking technical; using variants numbers. She’s trying to trace the missing patient zero. She wants people on flights from Brazil to contact the T&T team.

Bet she doesn’t have a Brazilian!

She’s boring the fucking arse off me. I’m off to put the kettle on. I’ll be back when the main act (JVT) comes on.

440957 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Ceriain, 6, #1206 of 1661 🔗

Why watch this nonsense? They’ll tell you nothing of value.

440963 ▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 7, #1207 of 1661 🔗

I’m aware of that. If one of us reports it, we don’t get the Beebs version.

440968 ▶▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1208 of 1661 🔗

you are doing a service

440971 ▶▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 6, #1209 of 1661 🔗

Occasionally you get nuggets.
Vallance blew the PCR test to pieces on Feb 10.

440960 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Ceriain, 12, #1210 of 1661 🔗

These morons should be talking to each other and not us. It seems like some arcane academic arguments are being shared with us against our will. We just don’t care – let us out you dreadful cunts

440961 ▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to Ceriain, 1, #1211 of 1661 🔗

thanks for suffering for us

440976 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Ceriain, #1212 of 1661 🔗

Think I’ve seen that variant, it had a hat on with bobbles hanging off it, it was trying to get on a train!

441006 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to DanClarke, #1213 of 1661 🔗

I spoke to someone who’d seen it. He was lying in the gutter with an empty bottle in his hand at the time.

441013 ▶▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to RickH, #1214 of 1661 🔗

it wont get far, not with Sage after it, lol

441203 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to DanClarke, #1216 of 1661 🔗

Love it

441200 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Ceriain, #1217 of 1661 🔗

You have really made me laugh with your comments Ceriain. It’s nice to get a good laugh these days!

440952 Matron, replying to Matron, 32, #1218 of 1661 🔗

I am 71, my husband 78 we are fit “unelderly” people and have both rejected having any of the current covid vaccines. I was a practice nurse for 31 years and never in my experience were people co-erced into having a vaccine. Now despite speaking to our surgery to refuse the vaccination,we find we are being contacted daily by email, phone and letter to have the vaccine. This I consider to be bullying tactics to wear us down. Having been a specialist in travel medicine I have looked into these vaccines and find the claims being made for them disingenuous as no vaccine can be considered safe and effective in so short a time, perhaps in a couple of years that claim maybe substantiated but not yet. Has anyone else been subjected to daily contact like this?

441021 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Matron, 7, #1219 of 1661 🔗

I think people like you should report it to the police for harassment. As the police are now not bothering to disperse crowds, they need a new hobby.

441073 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Matron, 7, #1220 of 1661 🔗

Outrageous. Send them a letter before action to advise that you intend to bring a private prosecution for harassment.

441095 ▶▶ Rowan, replying to Matron, 13, #1221 of 1661 🔗

You should report those who are harassing you to the police and ask them get it stopped. It likely won’t work, but it might stir things up a bit.

I’m a bit older than you, and I have been contacted twice, by telephone call from the local GP surgery. I politely refused both times, but a couple of weeks later I received a call from Gemma at the NHS Immunisation Management Service, asking if she could have a chat with me about Covid vaccination. I told her I didn’t have time to talk, as I was on my way out. She said, she could ring back, but I told her not to bother.

That was about three weeks ago and I have heard nothing since. On reflection, I should have complained to the GP’s surgery after Gemma’s call, asking why they felt entitled to report my vaccination status to an outside body. This is a clear breach of doctor patient confidentiality.

441195 ▶▶▶ Janette, replying to Rowan, 2, #1222 of 1661 🔗

Excellent Roman. I am glad you are sticking up for yourself.

441189 ▶▶ Janette, replying to Matron, 4, #1223 of 1661 🔗

Glad your standing by your guns Matron, don’t let them bully you into having it. It’s your body your choice. There is something very sinister going on here the fact they are continually contacting you about.

441318 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Matron, #1224 of 1661 🔗

Find out who the bullies are, Matron, and give them a blanket bath.

441358 ▶▶ Tillysmum, replying to Matron, 1, #1225 of 1661 🔗

Yes, 17 phone calls 3 letters after I declined at the first two calls. It’s harrassment really but now I just log the calls and don’t answer

440959 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 11, #1226 of 1661 🔗

On to JVT: new report about vaccines effectiveness… blah, blah. Everyone involved is awesome. He’s thanking individuals by name.

Lots of numbers; both vaccines are amazing, but no vaccine is 100% effective. He’s also claiming all the numbers are going down because of the vaccines.

Vaccines reducing admissions (in over 70 year olds) by 80% (both vaccines); deaths by 85% (Pfizer only).

We’re going into a very different world.

440962 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Ceriain, 8, #1227 of 1661 🔗

Thanks for taking one for the Team Ceriain!

440964 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Ceriain, 29, #1228 of 1661 🔗

rates coming down quicker in sweden with no vaccine program and no lockdown and no masks. Its almost like masks, lockdown and the vaccine are killing people

440990 ▶▶▶ mhcp, replying to steve_w, 4, #1229 of 1661 🔗

And Sweden is colder than the UK right now

440973 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1230 of 1661 🔗

Thankyou makes me feel ill watching them. It sounds like damage limitation to me

440991 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Ceriain, 5, #1231 of 1661 🔗

As long as he thinks that the vaccines have done it, and as long as that means we will be released (I know, I know), for now I don’t care. It all needs to come out in some future enquiry however.

440972 Mic67, replying to Mic67, 14, #1232 of 1661 🔗

Hancock just said Variant of Control by accident 🙂

440974 ▶▶ pub with no beer, replying to Mic67, 6, #1233 of 1661 🔗

lol 😉

440978 ▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Mic67, 7, #1234 of 1661 🔗

was Bill Gates stood behind him with his hand up his arse

441039 ▶▶▶ Rowan, replying to Major Panic, 1, #1235 of 1661 🔗

Even Bill Gates would be loath to do that?

441049 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Major Panic, #1236 of 1661 🔗

Extracting all that excrement no doubt!

441279 ▶▶▶▶ PastImperfect, replying to Jo Dominich, 1, #1237 of 1661 🔗

Surely gates would be pushing it in, because so much comes out of his mouth as he speaks.

441550 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to PastImperfect, #1238 of 1661 🔗

Now thats probably the truth!

441030 ▶▶ jonathan Palmer, replying to Mic67, 1, #1239 of 1661 🔗

Freudian slip.

440977 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 20, #1240 of 1661 🔗

I’d like to start a petition demanding Matt Hancock (or that annoying NHS Providers turd – cant remember his name) has to read out in alphabetical order (no toilet breaks) the name of everyone who has died in a care home which was forced to take infected patients from the NHS

440983 ▶▶ Yorkie lass, replying to steve_w, 2, #1241 of 1661 🔗

I’d sign it!

441005 ▶▶ isobar, replying to steve_w, 2, #1242 of 1661 🔗

I think that Chris Hopson is his name

441007 ▶▶▶ steve_w, replying to isobar, 1, #1243 of 1661 🔗

that’s him. ‘everyone that disagrees with me thinks the moon landings were faked’. mind of a teenager

441037 ▶▶▶ nottingham69, replying to isobar, 2, #1244 of 1661 🔗

Vile creature, with a face for radio.

440986 steve_w, replying to steve_w, 27, #1245 of 1661 🔗

A single shot of either the Oxford-AstraZeneca or the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid jab reduces the chance of needing hospital treatment by more than 80%, an analysis in England shows.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56240220

presumably increases the need for treatment at the undertakers by a similar amount

441015 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to steve_w, 6, #1246 of 1661 🔗

I live opposite an undertakers. They have been busy the last 2 weeks.

441036 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to steve_w, 2, #1247 of 1661 🔗

Maybe they don’t want to give people the 2nd dose as I found this in a WHO document about the Pfizer jab but don’t think the AstraZeneca one will be any different:

“Reactogenicity and adverse events (AEs) were generally milder and less frequent in participants in the older group (≥55 years of age) compared with the younger group (18-55 years of age) and tended to increase after the second dose.”

441057 ▶▶ dpj, replying to steve_w, 1, #1248 of 1661 🔗

I notice it’s conveniently not mentioned in headline and is buried deep in the article but that percentage refers to over 70s ie the people who might be in danger and could end up in hospital.

441129 ▶▶ Annie, replying to steve_w, 2, #1249 of 1661 🔗

Any boffin
Can fill a coffin.

441162 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Annie, #1250 of 1661 🔗

The sooner SAGE boffins fill them the better!

441191 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to Annie, 2, #1251 of 1661 🔗

An epidemiologist from SAGE
Puts all heaven in a rage.

(Apologies to W Blake)

441241 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Annie, #1252 of 1661 🔗

Any knave
Can fill a grave.

440989 Sam Vimes, 4, #1253 of 1661 🔗

Everything’s getting better because of the vaccine is it? Better ‘make sure’ everyone gets it then eh?

440998 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 13, #1254 of 1661 🔗

All the questions are about the new variant.

Did you lockdown too late?
Are the vaccines as amazing as you say?
Should we open schools with the variants running rampant?
What are you doing to hunt down the ‘Fugitive’?
Are you sure their are only 6 cases of the variant?

All three of them just waffle, repeating what they said previously.

And I’m done! 🙂

441001 ▶▶ steve_w, replying to Ceriain, 5, #1255 of 1661 🔗

well done. you probably need a shower

441011 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to Ceriain, 9, #1256 of 1661 🔗

I, too watched a few minutes.
Van Tamtam stating percentages of effectiveness after so many days after vaccination. To be honest, who of those MSM plebs understand that?
Wancock is so dead behind the eyes. is he actually a person?
That journalist who asked the question about schools returning, does she really think it is a good question to ask or does she really want to cause another panic? Do these so called journalists think asking questions like that is really what the public wants?

441026 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Silke David, 16, #1257 of 1661 🔗

They are continuing to lie, lie and lie about everything. Methinks they know Fuelmeich’s court case is going to be huge and that they have lost the good will of the British Public. This is the start of them winding it all down. After all, they really didn’t say much at all.

441368 ▶▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Silke David, #1258 of 1661 🔗

Do these so called journalists think asking questions like that is really what the public wants?” it could be worse. Last year I think it was mid Summer, one reporter had 1 question and decided to make it a killer: “Mr Chancellor, do you think that there might be a recession?”!

441025 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Ceriain, 8, #1259 of 1661 🔗

The….FUGITIVE!
Was a one-armed man seen running away from SAGE headquarters?

441044 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Cranmer, 4, #1260 of 1661 🔗

That’s a euphemism for “there is no f*****g variant”

441053 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Jo Dominich, 5, #1261 of 1661 🔗

‘The British economy was found murdered…and Dr Richard Covid was blamed for the crime…but he saw a fat blond haired man near his house, a man who he must identify to clear his name…’

441051 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Cranmer, 2, #1262 of 1661 🔗

Blimey Cranmer, you’re going back a bit?

441135 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Fingerache Philip, #1263 of 1661 🔗

So am I. That’s what I was referring to in my post. Glad some of the team picked up on it.

I done Doomwatch in an earlier post today. 🙂

441183 ▶▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to Ceriain, #1264 of 1661 🔗

Ah yes a classic. I remember they literally had a baby in a great big test tube in one episode ie a test tube baby!

441032 ▶▶ nottingham69, replying to Ceriain, 6, #1265 of 1661 🔗

Well done. Van Tam big pharma man, Hancock and Hopkins must be the most horrible trio the government could put out. I would have needed a pair of gloves handy to throw at the TV. Those three really are variants of concern.

441186 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to nottingham69, 3, #1266 of 1661 🔗

Yes there’s a lot of concern about the mutant bacillus vantammus pater fascistus that’s somehow entered the UK from Indo-China.

441052 ▶▶ Johnsontown, replying to Ceriain, 6, #1267 of 1661 🔗

Have they jumped the shark by pushing this Brazilian variant thing so hard? I find it hard to believe anyone out there will actually buy this apart from the truly zealous covidians who wear three masks and a panty-liner to put the bins out. Surely it just makes them look ridiculous. Wishful thinking?

441243 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to Johnsontown, 1, #1268 of 1661 🔗

On Sky News they said the government couldn’t even be arsed to try and track down the passengers of the mutant virus plane ( they just asked people to let them know if they’d been on the plane)….yep, that’s how seriously they take it.

441009 Awkward Git, replying to Awkward Git, 41, #1269 of 1661 🔗

Think I’ve strirred up something at the Cabinet Office as never had this response before to a FOI request.

Ref: FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST

I can confirm that the Cabinet Office holds information relevant to your request but I

must advise you that I must extend the time limit for responding to your request.

It is occasionally necessary to extend the 20 working day time limit for issuing a

response. Information you have requested is exempt under Section 43 of the Act, which

relates to information where disclosure would be likely to prejudice the commercial

interests of any person. Section 43 is subject to a public interest test and the Cabinet

Office has not yet reached a decision on whether the balance of the public interest

favours disclosure of this information.

By virtue of section 10(3), when public authorities have to consider the balance of the

public interest in relation to a request, they do not have to comply with the request until

such time as is reasonable in the circumstances. Owing to the need to consider, in all

the circumstances of the case, where the balance of the public interest lies in relation to

your request, we will not be able to respond to your request in full within 20 working

days. I hope to let you have a response by 30/03/2021. If I can reply before that date, I

shall do so. If I need more time to consider the balance of the public interest, I shall

write again to let you know.

If you have any queries about this letter, please contact the FOI team. Please

remember to quote the reference number above in any future communications.

I now have visions of them running round shredding documents, deleting e-mails and getting rid of files from computers and servers.

441014 ▶▶ Suet, replying to Awkward Git, 5, #1270 of 1661 🔗

Goodness. What did you ask?

441031 ▶▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Suet, 51, #1271 of 1661 🔗

Please supply the following information including relevant e-mails, memorandums, telephone call logs, meetings held in person or on video conferencing, investigations of complaints, both internally at the BBC and externally with any UK Minister or Secretary of State:

1 – What communication between the BBC and Ministers or their representative has there been about the “coronavirus pandemic” being an Emergency Arrangement?

2 – did the BBC discuss with any Minister or their representative about implementing the policy of deplatforming and refusing airtime to scientists, doctors etc that held opposing views to the official Government narrative?

3 – did the BBC discuss with any Minister or their representative about implementing the policy of the interviews being hostile towards scientists, doctors etc that held opposing views to the official Government narrative ?

4 – has any Minister or their representative supplied any guidance to the BBC about how the BBC should support the Government’s position?

5 – has any Minister or their representative made any contact with the BBC with complaints that certain shows (TV, radio and online), and presenters had deviated from the official narrative and guidance?

5 – if question 4 is “yes”, what was the outcome?

441042 ▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Awkward Git, 11, #1272 of 1661 🔗

Very very brilliant. The response, if you get one, will be interesting indeed. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there!

441054 ▶▶▶▶ DanClarke, replying to Awkward Git, #1273 of 1661 🔗

Very interesting to hear the result, it must have got alarm bells ringing

441061 ▶▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Awkward Git, 2, #1274 of 1661 🔗

Skewered them (I hope!)

441064 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Awkward Git, 4, #1275 of 1661 🔗

The smoke over Westminster today will resemble that over East Berlin the day after the wall came down.

441072 ▶▶▶▶ Ovis, replying to Awkward Git, 9, #1276 of 1661 🔗

Were Britain a free country under the rule of law, that would be a knock-out blow. Regardless of the outcome, you have done good work here.

441077 ▶▶▶▶ PatrickF, replying to Awkward Git, 1, #1277 of 1661 🔗

Killer questions!

441084 ▶▶▶▶ TheHandbag, replying to Awkward Git, #1278 of 1661 🔗

I think the word “bingo” applies here. Nice work, Awkward. Is there an FOIA forum anywhere on here? I’d love to ask a few of my own but o don’t want to replicate.

441091 ▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Awkward Git, 1, #1279 of 1661 🔗

KABOOM!

441024 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to Awkward Git, 5, #1280 of 1661 🔗

Probably burning more papers than an SS officer on VE Day.

441060 ▶▶ Sam Vimes, replying to Awkward Git, 7, #1281 of 1661 🔗

Good to know that they are rattled, and no slur on your stirling efforts, AG, but I think this is just them kicking the can down the road. Nevertheless, your knighthood is assured.

441178 ▶▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Sam Vimes, #1282 of 1661 🔗

If it’s still Queenie or her family giving them out I’d refuse.

441328 ▶▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Awkward Git, #1283 of 1661 🔗

Receive instead the LDS Medal for outstanding courage and persistence in the face of the enemy.

<cue loud applause, huzzas, ‘for he’s a jolly good fellow’, etc.>

441123 ▶▶ vargas99, replying to Awkward Git, 1, #1284 of 1661 🔗

“…commercial interest of any person…” Now who could that possibly be I wonder?
Answers on a postcard please.

441126 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Awkward Git, 1, #1285 of 1661 🔗

I have a vision of lots of little weasels.

441215 ▶▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1287 of 1661 🔗

At least I seem to have got a blow landed even if they squirm a bit and delay which will point to them being guilty and trying to hide something.

441020 Major Panic, replying to Major Panic, 2, #1288 of 1661 🔗

link posted earlier – must watch 2hr 21min in (for 50 mins, last 20 mins the best imo) – fucking hell…. what a tangled web… and all leads back to Gates!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUMvCOtOHJI&feature=youtu.be

441056 ▶▶ jos, replying to Major Panic, #1289 of 1661 🔗

I can’t open it – can you give the gist?

441175 ▶▶▶ jb12, replying to jos, 3, #1290 of 1661 🔗

Gates tried to get himself onto the executive board of the WHO (normally a position reserved for country representatives). Also, Swissmedic, who are entwined with the Swiss government as their health authority, signed a contract with the WHO and Kill Bill personally to get them to choose their medical treatment and health surveillance. Finally, Kill Bill’s GAVI NGO have full diplomatic immunity in Switzerland.

441070 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Major Panic, #1292 of 1661 🔗

I can open it but get no sound.

441092 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to isobar, #1293 of 1661 🔗

I’ve just copied and pasted to browser and it works fine – dr fuellmich interview with who whistleblower, someone posted earlier

441022 Bungle, replying to Bungle, 7, #1294 of 1661 🔗

A guy just stopped me in the street and offered to out something up my bum which he said will stop BARB-Dov-9. He said he can do it for £30 and it will decrease symptoms 20% if I say yes. ShalI I take it? Advice please. Oh, I forgot, apparently it is 95% effective.

441034 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Bungle, #1295 of 1661 🔗

Hobsons choice I think!

441063 ▶▶ Londo Mollari, replying to Bungle, 2, #1296 of 1661 🔗

I suppose it all depends on whether you like that sort of thing.

441099 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Bungle, 2, #1297 of 1661 🔗

I’m glad he didn’t explain what “95% effective” means. Too many people are obsessed with the details and forget the big picture which is “Will I be safer?” Clearly you will be so I would snap up that offer, in line with current government advice that no one should seek answers to sensible questions.

441122 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Bungle, #1298 of 1661 🔗

Sit down and think it over.

441040 Mic67, replying to Mic67, 19, #1299 of 1661 🔗

Asked about passports, Hancock says effectively we’re already doing that with requiring tests to travel. No mate, having a test to travel is not comparable to taking part in a medical trial. WTF.

441225 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Mic67, 6, #1300 of 1661 🔗

Not comparable at all but also there should not be any tests for travel as they are still part of attacking our freedoms.

441046 DoubtingDave, replying to DoubtingDave, 10, #1301 of 1661 🔗

On Saturday the weather was nice so headed out for a walk, during the walk I came across a birdwatcher, amazingly he was wearing a blue “medical” muzzle, tried to speak to him to tell him I had just seen a woodpecker in a nearby copse, unfortunately conversation is impossible when one party is muzzled.

Clearly muzzles are working, by preventing conversation.

Was this in the middle of a city or a place where there are lots of people close by? No we were on a bridle path I only saw one other person in the hour or so I was out.

441055 ▶▶ Julian, replying to DoubtingDave, 6, #1302 of 1661 🔗

Funny, I saw my first ever woodpecker yesterday. No birdwatchers around, just some young ladies having an illegal picnic.

441121 ▶▶ Annie, replying to DoubtingDave, #1303 of 1661 🔗

Watch the birdie, boom.

441058 Alice, replying to Alice, 4, #1304 of 1661 🔗
441290 ▶▶ DJ Dod, replying to Alice, #1305 of 1661 🔗

I think the FT story is from last year. However, it’s still interesting to consider the possibility that AZ could declare the pandemic over on July 1st! Follow the money, as aways…

441062 Biker, replying to Biker, 40, #1306 of 1661 🔗

Lovely day round my way. Got up went for a five mile walk, came home had two boiled eggs with soldiers and a pot of tea. Went out for a ride on my bike for a few hours and now i’m home just having finished my tea i thought i’d look at the lockdown site and woah a new variant of the flu from Brazil. Well fuck me with a banjo, Brazil you say? Did you know Brazil provide the best murder videos on the internet. Holy fucking shit them cartels are sick puppies. Never and i repeat never go to places where the locals don’t wear shoes. Now about the new flu, same as the old fu but improved with extra zing, 25% free extra for a limited time only, say the rest of your fucking life. One day i’m gonna die and no doubt i’ll be shitting it but fucking hell i can i just live without thinking about it? Is it too much ask? Still there’s always tomorrow

441207 ▶▶ Harry hopkins, replying to Biker, #1307 of 1661 🔗

My only criticism of your post is that I would have had THREE boiled eggs instead of two and with boiled eggs I love black coffee!

441247 ▶▶ Alethea, replying to Biker, 3, #1308 of 1661 🔗

You make me laugh, Biker. Thanks.

441066 DThom, replying to DThom, 6, #1309 of 1661 🔗

Bloody DM again pushing vaccine passports or green cards as per Israel
‘Could help set Britain free’

441086 ▶▶ DanClarke, replying to DThom, 5, #1310 of 1661 🔗

Friends of Blair, we free until they decided we werent

441097 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to DThom, 8, #1311 of 1661 🔗

VAKZINE MACHT FREI

441154 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to DThom, 1, #1312 of 1661 🔗

Changing the bloody goalposts once again.

441239 ▶▶ Steve F, replying to DThom, 7, #1313 of 1661 🔗

Setting Britain free would be so simple. Johnson could just say:

“Sorry everyone; it was all a terrible mistake and those responsible for the misery caused (including myself as PM) will answer for it. We promise it won’t happen again. Enjoy the summer.
PS I’ve had Hancock shot. Least I could do.”

See? Easy.

441297 ▶▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Steve F, #1314 of 1661 🔗

A utopian vision, like a world without lawyers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUhamxPnY_I

441329 ▶▶ Annie, replying to DThom, 1, #1315 of 1661 🔗

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

441078 Dartford44, replying to Dartford44, 1, #1316 of 1661 🔗

Sorry,did I actually hear some positive news from hancock this evening.
Single figures for admissions for older people.Even they were unable to get out of that.

441147 ▶▶ iane, replying to Dartford44, 1, #1317 of 1661 🔗

Wow – you mean someone actually listens to PratyCock!?

441087 godowneasy, replying to godowneasy, 10, #1318 of 1661 🔗

Seriously, I’m not sure I can take any more of this shit. Are we still on planet Earth? What is wrong with these people? My only conclusion is that they have been taken over by aliens. This from the BBC:

Is double masking a good idea? Macer Hall from the Express asks if “double masking” is a good idea. He also asks how the UK will ensure people get the second vaccine dose.
“The more layers you have the better,” replies Dr Hopkins, adding that the recommendation is for “at least two layers and ideally three in a mask”.

441108 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to godowneasy, 13, #1319 of 1661 🔗

This advice might actually kill people. The BBC are just the worst thing ever.

441113 ▶▶ Annie, replying to godowneasy, 14, #1320 of 1661 🔗

To be fair, he said three layers, not three masks.
The standard blue knickers, beloved of zombies everywhere, have three layers. Not enough, IMO. Suffocation level would rid the world of many a moron.

441161 ▶▶ A Heretic, replying to godowneasy, 3, #1321 of 1661 🔗

Anyone thinking a mask is going to stop a virus should take a look at what they have to wear and do in labs to actually stop viral transmission.

441179 ▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to godowneasy, 1, #1322 of 1661 🔗

Could Macer Hall clearly ask his searching and important questions through several layers of terry-cloth?

441093 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 6, #1323 of 1661 🔗

Sorry vaccine stuff again;

  1. I think the other day someone put up a link to enable submissions to Gove’s review of vaccine passports? I have just looked back but cannot find it, does anyone have the link?
  2. On my International Yellow vaccine card where it shows my Yellow Fever and Cholera vaccinations it also has a section for Medical exemptions. Amidst all this talk about vaccine passports has there been any consideration of medical, ethical or Religious exemptions?
441362 ▶▶ Stringfellow Hawke, replying to Steve Martindale, 2, #1324 of 1661 🔗

There’s this link to a survey re: digital health IDs and the like, expires 11 March I think:
https://dcms.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_4HZDsoOJSCWrV0q

As for Q.(2), Pretty sure the answer is No. I doubt this Government have given a lot of consideration to an awful lot, the last year or so!

441364 ▶▶▶ Steve Martindale, replying to Stringfellow Hawke, #1325 of 1661 🔗

Thank you

441096 isobar, replying to isobar, 26, #1326 of 1661 🔗



Mmm, it’s started, but going by best rated comments, rejected by vast majority of DM readers,
‘UK will discuss EU plans to bring in Covid vaccine passport with Brussels to learn how it will affect Britons’ summer holidays’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9313247/Brussels-bring-green-Covid-vaccine-passport.html

Best rated readers comment

Conspiracy Theorists Were Right Again Issue #559

Upticks 797 Downticks 77

441197 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to isobar, 3, #1327 of 1661 🔗

So far it’s Conspiracy Theorists 3, Marianna Spring 0.

441236 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to isobar, 1, #1328 of 1661 🔗

It hasn’t started it is just the next step in the vaccine passports agreed by the EU in 2017/8. I am now very much beginning to think the big annoucement at the G7 in June will be the agreement of the passports with the UK leading the way as we have won the “who has jabbed the most” competition (oh and we just happen to hold the reins of the G7 this year).

441100 Fingerache Philip, replying to Fingerache Philip, 17, #1329 of 1661 🔗

I think that I’ve just seen the Brazilian variant being led down the yellow brick road by Elvis on Shergar

441102 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #1330 of 1661 🔗

Was it on the.Moon?

441127 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to isobar, 1, #1331 of 1661 🔗

Where else?

441106 ▶▶ Annie, replying to Fingerache Philip, 3, #1332 of 1661 🔗

To receive a silver cup from Lord Lucan.

441125 ▶▶▶ Fingerache Philip, replying to Annie, 1, #1333 of 1661 🔗

Of course.

441286 ▶▶ Waldorf, replying to Fingerache Philip, #1334 of 1661 🔗

With the Wicked Witch of the North (Sturgeon) cackling hideously.

441101 SilentP, replying to SilentP, 17, #1335 of 1661 🔗

Having been subjected to a year of cherry picked and manipulated data intended to justify the government narrative, my first instinct now is to mistrust anything new that is presented.

The claim was made in this evening’s briefing that PHE have statistics proving the effectiveness of the vaccines. No doubt there is data that can be used to justify this claim and there may even be some truth in the claim.

Two things I want to see forensically examined before I would be convinced:

Full disclosure of how PHE collected and analysed the data. In particular, how they gathered and assessed the results for the vaccinated population compared to the unvaccinated.

A comparison of England’s data with other parts of the world with different levels of vaccination penetration.

441150 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to SilentP, 9, #1336 of 1661 🔗

I would add one more which is data on how many people have died within 60 days of having the injection or have been left with serious, life changing disabilities.

441167 ▶▶▶ SilentP, replying to Jo Dominich, 4, #1337 of 1661 🔗

That’s a valid question in its own right Jo, but my intention here was to focus specifically on the efficacy claims and not the wider issues associated with the vaccines such as safety and coercion

441105 stevie, replying to stevie, 4, #1338 of 1661 🔗

Really what journalists ask stupid questions

 Q: In some parts of the world people are wearing two masks at the same time. Joe Biden is double-masking too. Would you recommend that?
Hopkins says the more layers you have the better; Public Health England recomends at least two, and preferably three, layers in a mask.
They are considering this, she says. But currently they think one mask with at least two layers is enough.
Q: What will you do to ensure that people come forward for their second dose?
Hancock says he has seen the reports from Israel saying some people are not getting a second jab. But getting a second jab is very important, he says. The data for the Pfizer one (the only one for which this data is available) shows that a second jab gives even more protection, he says.
Van-Tam says the human immune system is very complicated, but it is likely a second dose will mature your immune protection, and make it broader, and longer lasting.

441110 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to stevie, 25, #1339 of 1661 🔗

Why are we still listening to these bastards?
Where are all the sensible people?

441118 ▶▶▶ Annie, replying to Two-Six, 15, #1340 of 1661 🔗

Here, two-six, on this here site.

441238 ▶▶▶▶ Alethea, replying to Annie, 3, #1341 of 1661 🔗

Yes indeed. Bloodied (I speak only for myself) but unbowed.

441116 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to stevie, 15, #1342 of 1661 🔗

If they asked difficult questions, they wouldn’t be invited back. Their jobs depend on them asking shit questions. Especially now that the government is the largest advertising revenue provider.

441180 ▶▶ Custerhaditcoming, replying to stevie, 2, #1343 of 1661 🔗

But it is “ likely “ the second dose will mature your immune system. So that’s an I don’t know then.

441462 ▶▶ JohnB, replying to stevie, 1, #1344 of 1661 🔗

“More mature, broader, and longer lasting”. That guy really drips scientific jargon, doesn’t he ?

441508 ▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to stevie, 1, #1345 of 1661 🔗

I think Hopkins should wear four masks plus a sealed plastic bag over the top of them all.
Wankock is an idiot. Full stop.
Van Tam should go and boil his head. My immune system is fully mature thanks.

441111 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 21, #1346 of 1661 🔗

Anyone else notice the totally predictable change in the rhetoric today?

Last week it was lockdown bringing the numbers down; today it’s the ‘vaccines’.

441148 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Ceriain, 14, #1347 of 1661 🔗

When the truth is that the flu, as it always is at this time of year, is in a natural decline. However, this Govt are so knee deep in their own propaganda the truth is unpalatable to them and goes against their narrative!

441223 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Ceriain, 2, #1348 of 1661 🔗

People not taking as much notice of the lockdowns so the government just ignoring people were out enjoying the sun at the weekend, so will have (yet another) push at the “vaccines” as our wonderful saviour.

441115 Freecumbria, 7, #1349 of 1661 🔗

Not sure if it’s been mentioned

Covid-19 and vitamin D: still “not enough evidence” unless more people die

http://www.drdavidgrimes.com/2021/02/covid-19-vitamin-d-after-barcelona-more.html?spref=tw

441117 Tenchy, replying to Tenchy, 14, #1350 of 1661 🔗

Of all the departments in the UK Government, which one is the most reprehensible, disgusting, repellent and detestable (add other adjectives as appropriate)? Surely the Home Office – pass the puke bucket – wins the prize. Quite apart from the antics of the low-life police, and the loathsome stupid woman who’s in charge, just look at these two articles. There’s no surprise in what the gits are trying to do, as described in the first article, but the situation detailed in the second article is beyond the pale, not least because of the reason given by the scum at the said Office. Quote (my emphasis):

A Home Office spokesperson said: “Unfortunately a large number of arrivals yesterday failed to purchase their mandatory testing packages for the second and eighth days of quarantine in the UK.

“This caused delays as they were made to purchase them after being checked by Border Force. We make absolutely no apologies for this . Every essential check stops the spread of coronavirus in the UK. These people should not have been allowed to travel without their testing packages and we are following up with regulators and carriers to ensure the law is enforced.”

Yes, they’re blaming it on the hapless passengers, who had to queue for those seven hours.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/28/government-seeks-to-retain-lockdown-limits-on-protests

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56209431

441130 ▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to Tenchy, 13, #1351 of 1661 🔗

It’s only a matter of time until they’re grabbing travellers by their ankles and holding them upside down to shake their pocket change loose. I’m getting the fuck off this island as soon as I can, and I won’t be coming back.

441137 ▶▶▶ iane, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 3, #1352 of 1661 🔗

The trouble is that, as with available options for voter support, there is little if any satisfactory alternative on offer.

441158 ▶▶▶▶ GrannySlayer (non-GMO), replying to iane, 11, #1353 of 1661 🔗

South America is looking pretty good, I’ve always wanted to explore Patagonia. I know how to sail too, which is beginning to look like the most valuable skill I have.

441202 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 2, #1354 of 1661 🔗

Good choice!

441141 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 3, #1355 of 1661 🔗

Not before slaying a few more grannies I hope!

441312 ▶▶▶ JaneHarry, replying to GrannySlayer (non-GMO), 2, #1356 of 1661 🔗

yeh, I’m rooting for you, and for anyone who makes it out of here

441314 ▶▶▶▶ Nymeria, replying to JaneHarry, 1, #1357 of 1661 🔗

Ditto

441134 ▶▶ iane, replying to Tenchy, 2, #1358 of 1661 🔗

Yep, briefly I thought she was OK, but now it is obvious she is pretty useless!

441145 ▶▶▶ RickH, replying to iane, 3, #1359 of 1661 🔗

I thought she was OK

Christ! That’s about as massive a misjudgment as you can make! Have you woken up now and rectified the malfunction?

441142 Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 5, #1360 of 1661 🔗

Not sure who produced these graphs, but the DM included them in a report from the other day.

Have to say, I’m convinced. 😉

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9307729/Oxford-vaccine-effective-Pfizer-jab-new-figures-show.html

Admissions…

441144 ▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1361 of 1661 🔗

Deaths…

441155 ▶▶▶ leggy, replying to Ceriain, 6, #1362 of 1661 🔗

I’m more compelled by the graphs from Joel Smalley.

441160 ▶▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1363 of 1661 🔗

Only the unvaxxed dying then. Ok

441397 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to BeBopRockSteady, 3, #1364 of 1661 🔗

I know; rubbish, isn’t it!

441174 ▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Ceriain, 5, #1365 of 1661 🔗

On my walk yesterday I picked up a free book on Statistics from someone’s clear-out box (there were a LOT of these during LD1 with furloughed folk doing busywork.) The first chapter focusses on how important it is to question the obvious deductions: “sometimes the fallacy in an argument is easier to detect if one asks oneself: is there any other obvious explanation?”

To pick holes in this one I would ask myself if:-

  1. the 80+ fell because the frailer died before Jan 1st (the gap they didn’t colour green)
  2. Are 85+ admissions lower because they have been kept in their care homes to avoid bed blocking?
  3. What happened to the age groups 70-79 and 65-84?

I’m sure sharper minds than mine will think of more questions.

441198 ▶▶▶▶ Prof Feargoeson, replying to Prof Feargoeson, 2, #1366 of 1661 🔗

4) When did 50% of 60+ get their Jab of Joys? Any correlation with the uptick in admissions/deaths?
5) Maybe the vaxx is more likely to cause adverse events in younger people?

441230 ▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to Ceriain, 7, #1367 of 1661 🔗

You’re convinced of what exactly? France and Italy both show similar falls but are way behind us on vaccination. Check it out on Worldometer. The Mail story graph suggests we’ve vaccinated about 4 to 5 as many people as France and Italy.

Moreover, given the average time from infection to death in fatal Covid deaths cases is 12 days, if this was all about a positive vaccine effect, why did it take something like 40 days for the vaccine effect to emerge statistically. It should have been showing up pretty much after 20 days I would say.

I’m not saying that the vaccine has no positive effect. But I am saying it has never performed in line with the claims made for it by Big Pharma, the NHS and Government.

441272 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to OKUK, 5, #1368 of 1661 🔗

Also, as far as I’m aware, the self congratulatory bigging up of the ‘evidence’ that the vaccine stops 90% of transmissions is based on nothing more than falling ‘case’ rates; no actual scientific data analysis. Of course it doesn’t occur to most people including the mainstream media to ask for the scientific evidence before lapping it up.

441401 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to OKUK, 4, #1369 of 1661 🔗

You’re convinced of what exactly?

I’m not ! I think everything they say is rubbish.

The ‘I’m convinced’ was sarcasm. Did you not see the 😉 at the end?

441245 ▶▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to Ceriain, 4, #1370 of 1661 🔗

Manufactured graph with selective categories, and very hard to know what they are plotting

Let’s assume it’s deaths with or from covid. Then let’s look at the latest ONS data to week ending 12th Feb by occurrence, so slightly less up to date than the graph above. New week of data out tomorrow.

What you can see is that the proportion of deaths from or with covid has gone down in the over 80s in the past few weeks. However this is solely to it going down in the over 90s. The 80-84 and 85-89 proportions have not changed in the past 2 weeks. Why would it not also go down in those age categories if it is a vaccination effect?

Looking at all the data you can see how easy it is to pick and choose categories to manufacture the effect you want.

(all cause mortality is more important than covid mortality in any case, as any change in covids deaths may just be a re-labelling effect)

441405 ▶▶▶▶ Ceriain, replying to Freecumbria, 1, #1371 of 1661 🔗

Manufactured graph with selective categories, and very hard to know what they are plotting

That was exactly the point I was trying to make. The ‘I’m convinced’ was sarcasm.

441163 JHUNTZ, replying to JHUNTZ, 13, #1372 of 1661 🔗

Daily Covid cases almost HALVE in a week to lowest level since September | Daily Mail Online

No matter how hard the government might try you just can’t stop the seasons. Deaths down to 100. I’m giving it a month til we’re at sub 10 deaths per day.

441169 ▶▶ jb12, replying to JHUNTZ, 16, #1373 of 1661 🔗

Which is exactly why the vaccines were rushed out.

441181 ▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to JHUNTZ, 9, #1374 of 1661 🔗

Of course come next Monday the test results will rocket once the schools return.

441194 ▶▶▶ Will, replying to Cumbriacracked, 10, #1375 of 1661 🔗

Over seven hundred LFTs on staff at the school with which we are involved and not one positive.

441220 ▶▶▶▶ Cumbriacracked, replying to Will, 3, #1376 of 1661 🔗

Good to hear Will but will not bother the govenment one bit they will only be reporting the number of tests conducted which will be a big scary number!

441283 ▶▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Will, #1377 of 1661 🔗

That’s interesting, no FPs at all?

If they do get a positive, does it have to be confirmed with PCR?

441370 ▶▶▶▶▶ Will, replying to A. Contrarian, 1, #1378 of 1661 🔗

Yes.

441185 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to JHUNTZ, 4, #1379 of 1661 🔗

The next new deadly variant will no doubt not be seasonal, or some such garbage.

441214 ▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to A. Contrarian, 5, #1380 of 1661 🔗

They still won’t be able to find the deaths. It’s going to get a lot harder.

441253 ▶▶▶▶ Cranmer, replying to JHUNTZ, 9, #1381 of 1661 🔗

This is the problem for them. They can dress up normal mortality as ‘covid deaths’ but unless they actually start killing people, they can’t increase the overall death rate. Mind you, that doesn’t make much difference to the sheeple who only understand the ‘scores on the doors’ death rate on the BBC every night.

441284 ▶▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to JHUNTZ, 6, #1382 of 1661 🔗

Deaths within 365 days of a positive test? Deaths of anyone who coughed within the 4 weeks prior to death? Deaths of anyone who passed within 2m of anyone who coughed within the 4 weeks prior to death? Lots of ways to bump it up I fear.

441201 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to JHUNTZ, 8, #1383 of 1661 🔗

Got to remember the vaccine fatalities that test positive for “Covid”!

441212 ▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to OKUK, #1384 of 1661 🔗

I think that will go down aswell now though with them moving past the vulnerable. Not that the adverse reactions won’t still persist.

441235 ▶▶▶▶ OKUK, replying to JHUNTZ, 1, #1385 of 1661 🔗

I agree.

441261 ▶▶▶▶ Dodderydude, replying to JHUNTZ, 3, #1386 of 1661 🔗

Don’t forget though that it is only during this month that the second jabs get going in earnest. Some people who may think they’ve got off lightly with side effects after round 1 may find things are different after round 2.

441295 ▶▶▶▶▶ JHUNTZ, replying to Dodderydude, 2, #1387 of 1661 🔗

never thought about the second. That’s a good point!

441549 ▶▶▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Dodderydude, #1388 of 1661 🔗

Yes. Public reactions to serious side effects and deaths will start to take off

441166 Sarigan (Day 343 of lockdown), replying to Sarigan (Day 343 of lockdown), 5, #1389 of 1661 🔗

https://valtioneuvosto.fi/-/10616/suomessa-vallitsevat-poikkeusolot-1?languageId=en_US

Finland declares state of emergency. Would that be because of the can you kicked down the road?

441168 ▶▶ leggy, replying to Sarigan (Day 343 of lockdown), 2, #1390 of 1661 🔗

Hardly. Look at the “case” rates and daily deaths in the charts here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9313019/Finland-declares-state-emergency-prepares-bring-tougher-Covid-restrictions.html

They’re having to scale deaths in decimals!

441171 ▶▶▶ Sarigan (Day 343 of lockdown), replying to leggy, 7, #1391 of 1661 🔗

Indeed, a crazy over reaction.

441378 ▶▶▶ frankfrankly, replying to leggy, 1, #1392 of 1661 🔗

Finland is very sparsely populated. Only downtown Helsinki and Tampere have any density and many of the suburbs have the appearance of being semi-rural.

441176 Steve Martindale, replying to Steve Martindale, 10, #1393 of 1661 🔗

All the various dodgy lockdown statutory instruments made under the Public Health Act start with a justification statement like this;

These Regulations are made in response to the serious and imminent threat to public health which is posed by the incidence and spread of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in England.

The Secretary of State considers that the restrictions and requirements imposed by the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (All Tiers) (England) Regulations 2020( 2 ), as amended by these Regulations, are proportionate to what they seek to achieve, which is a public health response to that threat.

Based on the current situation, as reported on official dashboards etc. the above statement is not really true, correct or applicable. The only possible justification for not rescinding this legislation now is that they are worried that Covid might surge back if they let up but to my mind the legislation is formulated with regard to measured and observable facts, not worries and concerns about what might happen.
Legally, in my opinion, this should all end now but I see no way of getting that to happen?

441190 ▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Steve Martindale, 19, #1394 of 1661 🔗

As mentioned above, here is some info on the “serious and imminent threat” that kicked off all this shit.

The first piece of “coronavirus” legislation was introduced at 2.30 pm on the 10th February 2020 without Parliamentary oversight or debate and is now revoked.

This is a bit before what everyone assumes it was, the piece of legislation that came into force on March 26th 2020 isn’t it?

This was The Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020 Statutory Instrument

Here it is:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/129/made

This piece of legislation required a statement of “serious and imminent threat” by the Chief Medical Officer to justify any measures to be taken.

Rather prophetically there was an unannounced and totally unpublicised release of a statement on the 30th January 2020 by the 4 Chief Medical Officers of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland on this very subject. It stated:

“the 4 UK Chief Medical Officers consider it prudent for our governments to escalate planning and preparation in case of a more widespread outbreak.
For that reason, we are advising an increase of the UK risk level from low to moderate. This does not mean we think the risk to individuals in the UK has changed at this stage, but that government should plan for all eventualities.””

Not very serious, imminent nor scary is it?

This statement was made 11 days before the piece of legislation it was required for was written and laid before Parliament and came into force the very same afternoon.

How did the 4 CMOs know 11 days in advance of a Statutory Instrument being written that “medical advice” would be required?

Why was this “advice” basically hidden on a webpage on a different department’s section and not on the DHSC webpages and why was it not linked to the Serious and Imminent Threat Declaration?

As this was part of a FOI request answer then either the above is the only advice given by the CMOs or the DHSC have withheld more detailed advice.

I’ve asked and am awaiting their reply.

441331 ▶▶▶ isobar, replying to Awkward Git, 3, #1395 of 1661 🔗

This is really important stuff. So please keep trying!

441510 ▶▶▶ Mic67, replying to Awkward Git, #1396 of 1661 🔗

More revealing than anything a so called journo has turned out all year!

441548 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to Awkward Git, #1397 of 1661 🔗

Right there is a viable judicial review

441177 Will, 5, #1398 of 1661 🔗

I saw some reports about Wank cock and corrupt Van Tam. They were heralding a supposed reduction in numbers in ICU but the silence on transmission becomes more deafening by the day!!!

441184 Londo Mollari, replying to Londo Mollari, 21, #1399 of 1661 🔗

I just came across this on the Suckerberg Forum. The Miri AF letters don’t seem to extend to this particular threat – obey or your child will be regarded as absent without authorisation and you will be fined. Any thoughts?

“I’m absolutely raging! Received this email today from my daughters secondary school, she’s 15.
I rang them and told them I don’t consent and that my daughter won’t be having no test to which they replied she won’t be able to attend school, it will go down as unauthorised and I will be fined. So they basically trying to blackmail me comment image well it won’t work, I’ll see them in court first! Anyone else having problems like this?”

441275 ▶▶ BeBopRockSteady, replying to Londo Mollari, 11, #1400 of 1661 🔗

Total lies from the school.

I hope these threats wake people up to what their rights are and fight for them

441204 NickR, replying to NickR, 24, #1401 of 1661 🔗

If you were wondering why the baseline for ‘all-cause mortality’ & the 2SD & 3 SD lines were so much lower in 2021 than 2020 here’s the explanation from PHE:

In regard to the baseline, there are several reasons for the difference between Jan/Feb 2020 and Jan/Feb 2021. In the winter of 2021 we are using the past 3 low flu years in order to calculate the baseline. We didn’t apply this restriction for winter 2020 and used all the previous 5 years in order to calculate the baseline. This is because this model was set up to monitor excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic and therefore are not really focusing on the baseline prior to March 2020 and do not mention the data prior to March 2020 in the commentary. Another reason for the difference between the baseline is that for Jan-Feb 2021 we include data from 2020 when calculating the baseline.

I hope this answers your questions.

Kind regards,
The Influenza Surveillance Team
Immunisations and Countermeasures Division
National Infection Service
Public Health England

The effect of this is that all-cause mortality looks dramatically higher in Jan/Feb 2021 than in Jan/Feb 2020 because they’ve changed the basis by which they calculate the baseline. The effect is to make the current death rate look about 500 deaths/day higher than it would have appeared if the method of calculating the average (from 5 years to 3 years).
Sorry it’s a bit technical but it’s very illuminating, if you look at the chart you’ll see the point.

441213 ▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to NickR, 9, #1402 of 1661 🔗

This is brilliant! I can’t wait for that public enquiry. PHE cooking the books.

441252 ▶▶ leggy, replying to NickR, 6, #1403 of 1661 🔗

So basically, they sexed it up to make this years mortality look more scary.

441260 ▶▶▶ NickR, replying to leggy, 14, #1404 of 1661 🔗

Yes, the baseline has always used the average of the past 5 years. Like most 5 year periods this had some good years & some bad years. They eliminated the bad flu death years by moving to a 3 year average. The net result is that 2021 looks far worse than it is because it’s being compared to a jerrrymandered average.
It’s the barefaced cheek of it that get’s me.

441332 ▶▶▶▶ Adamb, replying to NickR, 2, #1405 of 1661 🔗

This is just so bad. Data like this from sources like this should be utterly trustworthy. But great work highlighting it for us Nick.

441340 ▶▶▶▶▶ Adamb, replying to Adamb, 3, #1406 of 1661 🔗

PS – you should make Toby et al aware of this, it needs to be widely known.

441474 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to Adamb, #1407 of 1661 🔗

It’s hardly a secret. Nor is it unusual. It should be obvious to anyone that has GCSE in maths. Many here have just accepted it as ‘the way things are’.

441498 ▶▶▶▶▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to RickH, #1408 of 1661 🔗

No secret but not widely known!

441472 ▶▶▶▶ RickH, replying to NickR, #1409 of 1661 🔗

… but five years is meaningless in this context.

441467 ▶▶ RickH, replying to NickR, 1, #1410 of 1661 🔗

Which picks up my repeated point that the term ‘excess deaths’ is mathematically illiterate and is deceptive when short timespans are used as a baseline.

It’s a ‘pick your own’ situation.

441205 isobar, replying to isobar, 11, #1411 of 1661 🔗



The dreadful story that Londo Mollari mentioned earlier today makes it to the MSM
‘Outrage as police handcuff and ARREST man walking with his wife because he refused to give his details when he was stopped 22 miles from home’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9313353/Outrage-police-handcuff-ARREST-man-walking-wife.html

441210 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to isobar, 10, #1412 of 1661 🔗

I think this story is more psy-op bullshit to to scare the sheeple more as they have been so naughty breaking the lockdown mandate. I would not be surprised if it was all made up.

441217 ▶▶▶ Awkward Git, replying to Two-Six, 12, #1413 of 1661 🔗

Especially after that court case in Wales when it was decided in court that you did NOT have to give Police any details if stopped for a covid offence.

441219 ▶▶▶ Harry hopkins, replying to Two-Six, 7, #1414 of 1661 🔗

A bit like the story a week or two ago about the Morrisons store in Gateshead trying to get unmasked people to wear a yellow sticker. Morrisons declared publicly it was untrue and were trying to find those responsible for the scam.

441281 ▶▶▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to Harry hopkins, #1415 of 1661 🔗

Did they? I emailed them about it and they sent a bog standard reply about following govt guidelines etc. They didn’t refute the story at all.

441273 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to isobar, 11, #1416 of 1661 🔗

My wife did her first illegal 60 mile train journey today, mask free, of course.
Absolutely no problems or challenges.
It’s over.

441209 Richy_m_99, replying to Richy_m_99, 38, #1417 of 1661 🔗

Can someone please kidnap Kristi Noem, fly her to the UK and install her as our new PM. Her address to CPAC was one of the best political addresses I have heard in many years.

441211 ▶▶ isobar, replying to Richy_m_99, 9, #1418 of 1661 🔗

Not just that, clone her and put her in all the cabinet positions.

441233 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Richy_m_99, 5, #1419 of 1661 🔗

Kristi Noem
I bet she could wrangle a steer.

441244 ▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1420 of 1661 🔗
441249 ▶▶▶▶ Two-Six, replying to awildgoose, #1421 of 1661 🔗

lol…poor bird

441310 ▶▶▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Two-Six, 1, #1422 of 1661 🔗

Some of them do actually want to be shot, roasted, and eaten. Must be right, government told me so.

Edit: Also, impressive shotgun ! Three shots, and no need to pump !

441528 ▶▶▶▶▶▶ awildgoose, replying to JohnB, #1423 of 1661 🔗

I believe that’s a semi-auto shotgun.

I can’t tell the make from the video.

441242 ▶▶ Alice, replying to Richy_m_99, 7, #1424 of 1661 🔗

Kristi Noem is a star – woman of the decade!

441263 ▶▶▶ NickR, replying to Alice, 3, #1425 of 1661 🔗

Impressive arms!

441269 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to Richy_m_99, 6, #1426 of 1661 🔗

I wouldn’t second the kidnapping idea.
But if we must have Klaus&Bill’s World government, I would be OK if she, DeSantis and Tegnell ran it.
But only then.

441218 swedenborg, replying to swedenborg, 6, #1427 of 1661 🔗

This is strange. Population density not that important.US data metropolitan versus non metropolitan

https://twitter.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1366016278700384256

 “Am I reading this chart correctly? It seems like no real difference in cases in urban vs suburbs/rural. Remember when everyone said that it was all about population density?

441229 ▶▶ TJN, replying to swedenborg, 1, #1428 of 1661 🔗

As one reply points out, this is cases – deaths would be more appropriate.

Also, is this data is swamped by false +ves?

I’de be very surprised if population density wasn’t very important.

441382 ▶▶▶ frankfrankly, replying to TJN, 1, #1429 of 1661 🔗

Death rates are certainly not the same-New York & New Jersey are by far the worst. All US states figures are on Real Clear Politics at the bottom of the main page.

441282 ▶▶ Freecumbria, replying to swedenborg, #1430 of 1661 🔗

Changes in numbers tested will affect it of course, i.e larger hump on right may be when more testing happening. So you can’t look at the area under the curve to compare.

But it looks like non-metropolitan areas were less hit in Spring 2020 and so are catching up now, but overall less effected than metropolitan areas if you were to look at say deaths?

That’s from a mere glance.

441224 Jo, replying to Jo, 62, #1431 of 1661 🔗

I circulated the petition posted on her earlier about vaccine passports to some friends.
I got a reply from 20-yr old student I know:

No I do not support these “passports”. This is a repeat of the Holocaust. People are being discriminated against because we don’t trust the government-backed vaccines. And if these vaccines PROTECT people like the government say they do, why the need for covid passports? Surely vaccination means that everyone can mix again! Not have to show papers when asked.

Good to know some young people have working brains. Spoke to a couple in their 20s last week who totally get it and won’t be having the vaccine.

441227 ▶▶ Two-Six, replying to Jo, 14, #1432 of 1661 🔗

phew I thought they were all brainwashed

441232 ▶▶ OKUK, replying to Jo, 11, #1433 of 1661 🔗

Good to read that.

441234 NickR, replying to NickR, 14, #1434 of 1661 🔗

Anyone from Corby? No, I thought not! Still, Corby was used by Van Tam as the pin-up child of a town where covid infections were rising, one of the 1 in 5 places with ‘dangerously’ rising infections!
Well, here’s the data. Of course there are individual days, even 2 days together where it may rise but I suspect this is because they bring in a mobile testing unit a couple of days a week, this is what causes the saw-tooth profile, but to say Corby has rising infections is simply not true.

441237 ▶▶ Alice, replying to NickR, 4, #1435 of 1661 🔗

People of Corby – send this graph to Jabba VT!

441254 ▶▶ Silke David, replying to NickR, 6, #1436 of 1661 🔗

My local paper published details of our local areas on Sunday.
Do not look at the percentages: 150% increase! from 0 to 3.

441266 ▶▶ Ossettian, replying to NickR, 1, #1437 of 1661 🔗

I live in Gretton.

I had to go to Corby a couple of weeks ago because some of my clients are so backward they still use cheques.

The testing site by the Cube was deserted.

441307 ▶▶▶ JohnB, replying to Ossettian, 2, #1438 of 1661 🔗

Whay hay, Oss, I still like cheques. 🙂

441277 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to NickR, 3, #1439 of 1661 🔗

None of the places he implicated actually seem to have rising infections. Let alone “dangerously” rising.

He needs to learn what “dangerous” really means.

441547 ▶▶▶ Jo Dominich, replying to A. Contrarian, #1440 of 1661 🔗

Typical Govt scientists falsifying the stats yet again

441250 Alice, replying to Alice, 6, #1441 of 1661 🔗

Someone here was asking about T-cell testing earlier today. Ivor Cummins has this link on his Twitter:

https://www.tspotdiscovery.com/

There are some interesting tweets about it on the thread, for example:

Marc Girardot
@GirardotMarc
·
4h
Replying to
@gerdosi
Agreed. Vaccinating people who are already immune is idiotic and possibly dangerous.

441259 ▶▶ Alice, replying to Alice, 8, #1442 of 1661 🔗

Sorry I’m replying to myself – just wanted to add another comment by the same guy on the same thread:

Robin Monotti FRSA
@robinmonotti
·
7h
Remember: antibodies become undetectable in a few months, T-cells remain detectable in perpetuity. Before anybody takes the risk of vaccination they MUST demand gov. to know whether they are already immune to SARSCoV2 & therefore have cross-reactive immunity to all the variants.

441274 ▶▶▶ Major Panic, replying to Alice, #1443 of 1661 🔗

can someone get this test privately?

441291 ▶▶▶▶ Alice, replying to Major Panic, 1, #1444 of 1661 🔗

I’m afraid I have no idea – you may be able to find out from the website, https://www.tspotdiscovery.com/

441251 leggy, replying to leggy, 10, #1445 of 1661 🔗

So around three million secondary school children will be returning to school next week – the vast majority of which will succumb to twice weekly testing via LFT.

This piece in the BMJ – https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4469 – gave a specificity of 99.68% for the Innova variety.

Before even considering any “true” positives, I make that nearly 10,000 false positives for each round of testing.

Are we going to see that reflected in the published numbers next week and in the weeks following? Will be curious to watch. Also will be curious to see what happens when the kids break up for Easter again and presumably, the tests stop until summer term.

441267 ▶▶ JayBee, replying to leggy, 11, #1446 of 1661 🔗

Looks like a tool and ruse so that lazy teachers can be back home soon.

441288 ▶▶▶ Julian, replying to JayBee, 8, #1447 of 1661 🔗

I don’t imagine the government give two hoots for teachers one way or the other. I think it’s just more theatre. Quite a few supposedly intelligent people I know are convinced schools are terrible spreaders of disease and the govt made a big thing of closing schools – they can’t reopen them without covering themselves wit something like mass testing, otherwise it will look like there was no need to close them to start with.

441292 ▶▶ A. Contrarian, replying to leggy, 4, #1448 of 1661 🔗

I’m not convinced it will make that much difference, despite the possibility of FPs this doesn’t seem to have been an issue with any of the other mad government LFT testing sprees in the past (e.g. Liverpool, lorry drivers) for some reason. I’m hoping it won’t have much effect on the numbers, but we’ll see.

441315 ▶▶ Cranmer, replying to leggy, #1449 of 1661 🔗

I can imagine that the ‘home testing’ won’t be done properly. People will try but will end up just swabbing the nostrils and hopefully not going far enough to get a reading.

441475 ▶▶▶ Cheezilla, replying to Cranmer,